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Speaker 1: word sounds very exciting. It's like the opening for the

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Speaker 1: Olympics fireworks. Vovizellis Yes, all right, John and Ken Show,

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Speaker 1: John come out and Ken Shampoo. Can'f I am six

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Speaker 1: forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. If you saw

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Speaker 1: any of the Johnny kN social media, we were teasing

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Speaker 1: became aware of that on Friday. You weren't here Friday,

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Speaker 1: and then people were telling me that there's some big announcement. Actually,

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Speaker 1: a couple of friends texted me, I guess they follow

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Speaker 1: So I'm like a biggert Oh, big announcement, that's what, okay?

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Speaker 1: And then I look for myself and sure I heard

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Speaker 1: Deborah Mark had a hand in this. Am I right?

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Speaker 1: Both Deborah's Deborah my wife and Debora Mark. They acted

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Speaker 1: as the publicity to Nobody told me that they would

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Speaker 1: do that. Actually show I didn't know either until it

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Speaker 1: I said, big announcement, I'd better look for myself. The

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Speaker 1: speak about the freeway. The bigger Well, the big announcement

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Speaker 1: is that a show that began on January eleventh, nineteen

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Speaker 1: eighty eight, called The John and Ken Show. And I'll

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Speaker 1: be specific John coblt Ken Schampeau, because there might be

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Speaker 1: I've never found one with all the podcasts. It has

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Speaker 1: got to be another John, I thought. Years ago somebody

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Speaker 1: and Kennon. They're like, what are you gonna do this?

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Speaker 1: We sued them and killed them. That version of John

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Speaker 1: and Ken, known as John Colebelt and Ken Shampao, will

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Speaker 1: because I am saying goodbye, not John, though John will

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Speaker 1: be here till he dies, Yes I will. I mean

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Speaker 1: they'll have to carry you out put you in a

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Speaker 1: hers because we have opposing views on growing old and

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Speaker 1: so you want to stop. And I noticed the last

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Speaker 1: few months you were, Yeah, you were jabbing in there

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Speaker 1: they do? They're crazy? Just sit around and having I

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Speaker 1: could never I'm like, hmm, it's just like a subtle

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Speaker 1: message from me. Of course, of course it was so

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Speaker 1: after very little thought. This is what I'm gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Because the joke is, I've been talking about this for years.

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Speaker 1: I've got relatives that every time I see them, yet

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Speaker 1: I retired. Yet you don't want to know how many

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Speaker 1: fifteen years? Really? You first brought this up to me

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Speaker 1: in two thousand and eight, and I know for sure

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Speaker 1: I was kind of young then, though, I don't think

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Speaker 1: I really? No, I have a timeline on this. In fact,

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Speaker 1: I mentioned it to one of my sons, who's in

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Speaker 1: sons about it. No, But I would come home and say,

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Speaker 2: So you know it was a plan.

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Speaker 1: It involved Vancouver. Uh you were, Yeah, that was a

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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, I realized there's a lot less people there

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Speaker 1: might be around for months. In fact, Eric, you better

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Speaker 1: I was correct. Newsome is showing up three point fifteen.

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Speaker 1: He's going to be there with Karen Bass to brief

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Speaker 1: then you send me the email I will. I have evidence.

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Speaker 1: KFI News, is here to talk about this story.

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Speaker 2: Hey guys, how you doing so?

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Speaker 4: First of all, I want to say, Ken, that's been

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Speaker 4: an absolute honor and pleasure.

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Speaker 2: To work with you.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you you figure John didn't say that? Did

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Speaker 4: In the last I think he's I think he's chomping

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Speaker 1: It's gonna it's a month. Okay, that's true.

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Speaker 4: But I want to go on the record now to

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Speaker 2: So it's it's been a pleasure and an honor to

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Speaker 1: Just want to know the John Stuggler continues, it will

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Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean yeah, you'll still get paid.

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Speaker 4: In fact, I you know, I was, I was rubbing

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Speaker 1: Oh so perfect, all right, if this is the way

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no, hey listen listen.

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Speaker 4: I think I I think i I'm owed that after

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Speaker 1: Anyway, he abuses you more than I did. I know.

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Speaker 2: That's why I'm saying it was an honor and pleasure

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Speaker 4: So the latest information came out at around ten o'clock

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Speaker 4: But I think there's going to be some interesting things

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Speaker 5: Who is leasing these sites and are they being monitored?

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Speaker 4: So when we push him, and I know we're coming

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Speaker 1: So you stay right there. Yeah, And I just want

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Speaker 1: back with more of Steve Gregory on the ten Freeway fire,

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Speaker 1: We're on the radio from one until four. After four o'clock,

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Speaker 1: to whatever you missed. It's a podcast. We continued out

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Speaker 4: So just to give you some perspective, that again was

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Speaker 4: we've had issues with the people leasing this property for

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Speaker 1: Let We're in litigation.

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Speaker 5: We're going to court on this, so the consequences are profound.

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Speaker 5: There's fines, there's legal consequences. So no, we'll give you

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Speaker 1: But again, we're in.

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Speaker 5: A litigation posture with this less see. The lease has

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Speaker 5: We're familiar with it, and I want to just clarify

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Speaker 5: we get those details. We're getting all of that information

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Speaker 5: that's all part of it. Let we're going to provide

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Speaker 1: When they took the original lease. Uh more. Detail will

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Speaker 5: As quickly as we get it.

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Speaker 1: I want to put it out together. Put in the

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Speaker 2: Time, so you notice that you hear all the buzzwords. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: You know you can do the drinking game with the

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Speaker 1: How about now?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, this is a real time.

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Speaker 4: But this, this, this tells you, This tells you exactly

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Speaker 1: Thank you for this opportunity.

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Speaker 5: To update you on the states now responsibility to answer

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Speaker 5: Let's know a couple of things.

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Speaker 1: Clear, this is one of those Heaven in Her moments.

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Speaker 2: And did you catch that you were laughing here? It is?

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Speaker 5: Well, thanks Claire, this is one of those Heaven and

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Speaker 1: No period, full stop. Perfect.

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Speaker 4: Finally, I finally leave you with this. So how is

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Speaker 4: my question.

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Speaker 1: I understand that.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? And so these would have been the violation correct, okay.

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Speaker 5: Or other violations so it relates to subleasing or other

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Speaker 2: Again, please, I know the need to listen. Please, Well

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Speaker 4: I'm just like, you know, why why did you like

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Speaker 2: It's like, well, you could tell us who the lessie is.

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Speaker 1: See see, this is the question that's been in my

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Speaker 1: warm and cook their food, it would be clear whether

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Speaker 1: it's a less see, a sub less see, homeless people,

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Speaker 1: whoever it was, that a fire department decision would be made.

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Speaker 1: This is being cleared out.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: You can go fight this in court tomorrow, but right

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Speaker 1: now you can blow up this whole freeway here. So

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Speaker 1: we're gonna call in a truck and load all the

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Speaker 1: stuff on this minute.

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Speaker 4: But you notice, I'm sorry, good, no, why didn't that happen?

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Speaker 4: So you notice I kept asking, It's like, well, what's

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Speaker 4: the threshold? What's the threshold? I said, you've been citing

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Speaker 4: these guys for a year. At what point do you?

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Speaker 4: And then you notice he keeps going in and going in.

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Speaker 4: He never answers the question. No, it's always it's the

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Speaker 4: litigation posture. Even Hallies and Er tried to get it,

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Speaker 4: and he admitted at least that yes, that's part of

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Speaker 4: the violations, along with other violations.

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Speaker 2: I think he had to add to that.

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Speaker 1: And when I hear that kind of dance, I assume

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Speaker 1: they're lying or they're covering something up, because you could

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Speaker 1: just say, there is no excuse with the kind of

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Speaker 1: flammable materials they had. We saw what happened, right, We

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Speaker 1: saw it so that those kind of flammable materials practically

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Speaker 1: came close to melting the freeway down. You didn't clear

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Speaker 1: things out immediately. How would that possibly be?

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Speaker 4: Especially after he admitted that one year prior August of

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Speaker 4: twenty twenty two, he was personally down there. He says, quote,

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Speaker 4: I know this site intimately.

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Speaker 2: I was there.

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Speaker 4: Well, he kept saying, putting himself at the site, And

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Speaker 4: then I asked him about that as well. I said, okay,

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Speaker 4: so you were at the site. Was this before you

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Speaker 4: leased out the property or was it? He goes, no, No, No,

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Speaker 4: I was actually across the street. So I'm like, so

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Speaker 4: were you there or were you not there? Point is

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Speaker 4: is he's been intimately involved across the street, across the street,

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Speaker 4: but he still had a chance to see what was

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Speaker 4: going on. Sure, Now here's the rub. This is state property.

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Speaker 4: The city doesn't have anything to do with the state property.

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Speaker 4: The state's got to.

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Speaker 2: Send cow fire in there or a county fire that.

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Speaker 1: But isn't it the city's obligation to eliminate a fire

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Speaker 1: danger within the city limits.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so at least the city has to tell the

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Speaker 4: county and or tell the state, and vice versa. The

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Speaker 4: problem is, I'm going to tell you, folks, if they

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Speaker 4: announced the cause of the fire at three fifteen, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to place a bet that it's not going to

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Speaker 4: be because of what you think it is. I think

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Speaker 4: there's been some I think there is, and based on

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Speaker 4: conversations I'm having with people behind the scenes. I don't

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Speaker 4: think it's going to be what you think is going

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Speaker 4: to be the cause. I think there is going the

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Speaker 4: cause of the fire is going to be at the

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Speaker 4: fault of the less see, and then that's what they're

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Speaker 4: gonna do, and that's gonna it's gonna stop there.

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Speaker 1: All right, Steve, are you are you reading between the lines? Yes,

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Speaker 1: I am, But that's scale the state's responsibility. Okay, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: all right, we'll see what happens at three fifteen and

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk with you again later.

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Speaker 2: Sounds good, guys, Take care.

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Speaker 1: Uh. I had a more basic question. You can't let

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Speaker 1: people operate any business underneath the freeway. That's that's ridiculous.

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Speaker 1: And where is that judge? Remember that judge? It was

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Speaker 1: in the David Oakcarter who said the La County freeways

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Speaker 1: you have to clear the homeless away from underneath or

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Speaker 1: around the freeways because that's dangerous. Now, again, we don't

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Speaker 1: know that they started this fire, but that along with

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Speaker 1: this wood palette junk yard that can't be under foot pace,

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Speaker 1: wood pallet junk yard, homeless people and large drums of

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Speaker 1: flammable materials. I don't care. I don't care if it's

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Speaker 1: the guy who leased it, who he subleased it to.

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Speaker 5: You.

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Speaker 1: We're in litigation. It doesn't you see something that dangerous,

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Speaker 1: you get rid of it immediately. If I put out

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Speaker 1: a bunch of oil drums on the in front of

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Speaker 1: my house, LA Fire Department would be there and say

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Speaker 1: we're taking these away. You're going to burn the neighborhood down.

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Speaker 1: All right, we'll have more And as you heard Steve

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Speaker 1: Mention three point fifteen, Newsome and Bass are supposed to

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Speaker 1: have another briefing with the media about the fire. Johnny

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Speaker 1: Ken kf I AM six forty live everywhere iHeart Radio

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Speaker 1: out of the commercials, we're going to play a couple

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Speaker 1: of quick clips from the john Ny Kent archive, since

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Speaker 1: Ken has announced he's going to be retiring in about

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Speaker 1: a month. Details to followed.

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Speaker 3: You're listening to John and Ken on demand from KFI

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Speaker 3: AM six.

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Speaker 4: WND gotta remember where I live?

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Speaker 2: Now repeat after me?

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Speaker 1: Yes, and.

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Speaker 4: You look at a magic wand.

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Speaker 1: You know we've been asked probably one million two hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand times over the past week. What do you sound

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Speaker 1: like here?

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Speaker 2: What do you do?

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Speaker 4: What?

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Speaker 1: What are you gonna talk about? What? What did you?

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Speaker 1: Shut up and listen because because we don't know, we

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Speaker 1: don't know, we're gonna argue, We're gonna entertain. That is

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Speaker 1: a clip of the first show we ever did together

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Speaker 1: in Atlantic City on w O n D. And then

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Speaker 1: clip from the first show we did on KFI nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety two. And to clarify that, John Coblt previously worked

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Speaker 1: for a station who's called as were w E n

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Speaker 1: Y right, so that's what he was doing first time.

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Speaker 1: I was supposed to give the new call. That's perfect

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Speaker 1: because my joke is you're gonna keep saying my name

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Speaker 1: after I'm gone. I know you will. Oh, I know

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Speaker 1: you'll never die, especially with that John Cobelt and uh

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Speaker 1: Ken Champagne because I'm always trying to remember there's a

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Speaker 1: little quitch, it's a Biden moment and uh what is

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Speaker 1: that guy's name again? That's right? Sorry, we Ken Kennish

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Speaker 1: retiring in a month and I will go on go

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Speaker 1: on news flesh and change my mind. Oh that's fine, No,

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Speaker 1: it's just a joke. You know you can you sit

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Speaker 1: there at home. There's been a few emails that came in,

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Speaker 1: and you know it's positive. It's very nice, right. I

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Speaker 1: thought somebody would say good good Rid a long one

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Speaker 1: to say, because I got those over the years. You

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Speaker 1: cut him off all the time. Just when John's making

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Speaker 1: a great point, you have to interrupt, shut up your

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Speaker 1: potted plant. That's when you laughed the hardest. Years ago,

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Speaker 1: some guy called in and said, Kay, why don't you

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Speaker 1: have an opinion on this? What are you just a

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Speaker 1: potted plant? And you just laughed and laughed. Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that? Yes, he called me a potted plant, that friend,

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Speaker 1: And you're right just to be called. Yes, a plant

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Speaker 1: is but a potted I'm in there in the corner

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Speaker 1: and this big jug and I just never heard that before.

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Speaker 1: Very mean. Uh we I'm gonna have a special guest

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Speaker 1: staff to the news at two o'clock. By the way,

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Speaker 1: we'll keep you updated on the ten freeway situation with

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Speaker 1: the fire still closed. Newsom and Bass. I know, yeah, Oh,

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Speaker 1: I want to just make this point because it didn't

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Speaker 1: take long before all the headlines were use mass transportation,

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Speaker 1: stay home, use alternatives. I mean, I think this sometimes

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Speaker 1: I think it's a plot right right, to get you

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Speaker 1: out of your car. Let's shut down a freeway. Oh

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Speaker 1: don't you think that the mass transit fanatics and the

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Speaker 1: bicycle crowd wants all the freeways to burn and go? Oh?

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Speaker 1: They were quick to get Metro out there, So we're

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Speaker 1: adding metrolink trains. We're gonna do all this stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then I'm like, even bus drivers were like, we can

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Speaker 1: get you. I'm like, well, wait a minute. Buses are

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Speaker 1: on the roads just like we are. They have some magic,

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Speaker 1: maybe they have some back route. I think most people

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Speaker 1: rather quit their jobs than go on a metro training

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Speaker 1: get stabbed to death. Yes, I can't speak for everyone

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Speaker 1: I know, so it didn't. So Newsom and Bass are

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Speaker 1: going to speak at about three point fifteen thereabouts, an

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Speaker 1: odd time to start, but with an update. And what

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Speaker 1: if you've been listening this hour. We were talking to

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Speaker 1: Steve Gregory covering this all over from KFI News that

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Speaker 1: we need to find out more about this this lease,

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Speaker 1: who this is, whoever operated this junk yard full of

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Speaker 1: wooden pallets and everything else. I heard there were cars

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Speaker 1: there underneath this freeway there near East La. He knew

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Speaker 1: some sat fire broke a blithering idiot trying to respond

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Speaker 1: to Steve and other reports in real time? Are going

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Speaker 1: to get it in real time? What's the word you

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Speaker 1: kept using? The litigation posture? That was the litigation posture. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know what your posture is. So and again Steve

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Speaker 1: predicted it may not be what you think it is

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Speaker 1: if they talk about the cause in this afternoon, if

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Speaker 1: they're telling the truth, he thinks it might come down

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Speaker 1: on the company that leased that property where the fire

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Speaker 1: broke out. It may not necessarily have been the vagrants

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Speaker 1: that were scattered all over the place. Did you watch

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Speaker 1: that video that I sent on scene TV guy? That

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Speaker 1: was a big intense fire. I watched the first ten minutes,

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Speaker 1: but that was really intense. And then the dark under

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Speaker 1: world beneath the freeway. Yeah, you see the homeless scrambling

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Speaker 1: to gather try to get their stuff, and scantily clad

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Speaker 1: women I guess the local prostitutes. I mean they It

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Speaker 1: is a whole other world. You just don't want to

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Speaker 1: know it is. It's terrifying to look at and all

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Speaker 1: the garbage, and that sounds non compassionate, doesn't it. But

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Speaker 1: I just don't want to get too close to that. No,

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Speaker 1: you should have no drive by, that's one thing. But

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Speaker 1: imagine being there with that camera and seeing all that is.

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Speaker 1: That is such freaking mental illness to live under an

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Speaker 1: overpass with all that garbage and filth, and I'm sure

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Speaker 1: there's lots of rats there. I was like, Oh Jesus,

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Speaker 1: what went wrong with you? All right, So we'll have

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Speaker 1: a lot more coverage of course on the ten Freeway

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Speaker 1: closure coming up next. His name is David Rolston and

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Speaker 1: he's the father of one of the victims that was

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Speaker 1: run down, a young lady that attended Pepperdine University. Her

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Speaker 1: name is Nim Rolston. She died when that twenty two

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Speaker 1: year old who drove that car at high speeds slammed

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Speaker 1: into other park cars and then hit and killed these

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Speaker 1: four young women. David is a read to talk to

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Speaker 1: us next about his daughter. John and Ken KFI AM

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