Speaker 1: What's popping is a girl I'm not And you're listening
Speaker 1: to Exactly a Mada, a production of I Heart Radio. Well,
Speaker 1: I have some sad news. Unfortunately, my co host CV
Speaker 1: NOONEZ will no longer be with us. He's working on
Speaker 1: some bigger projects. He has some of the things going on.
Speaker 1: We will always send him love and support and they
Speaker 1: know that he's listening and he's part of Exactly a
Speaker 1: Mada family no matter what. But you know, sometimes things happen,
Speaker 1: and U as sad as I am, I know that
Speaker 1: he's doing great things in life. I'm so grateful for
Speaker 1: the time that we shared together on Exactly a Mata.
Speaker 1: He brought a lot of juice, he brought a lot
Speaker 1: of spice, a lot of I know, and all that
Speaker 1: good stuff. But you already know how it is anyways,
Speaker 1: willing right along at today's topic is all leave fans.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, I know you guys have been
Speaker 1: talking about it. Some of y'all have been subscribing on
Speaker 1: the low. Stop lying. You know, you have your own,
Speaker 1: you know your own the only fans on the low,
Speaker 1: and you'll be watching when nobody else is watching. Um
Speaker 1: and um. Some of you may not even have an
Speaker 1: only fans, But you might be curious. You may be curious,
Speaker 1: or you may or you may have a certain mindset
Speaker 1: a perspective on the type of people that use only fans,
Speaker 1: and you actually might just be wrong. Other people that
Speaker 1: are only fans are not there necessarily because they're financially struggling.
Speaker 1: Some of them do it because they like it, some
Speaker 1: of them do it to feel liberated, some of them
Speaker 1: do it for financial reasons, some of them do it
Speaker 1: for whatever the case may be. Some of the people
Speaker 1: and only fans are actually professional, well educated people that
Speaker 1: graduated from different careers listen only fans. In the beginning,
Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people were like, oh,
Speaker 1: that's the whole wars, Oh that's for slugs, Oh that's
Speaker 1: for this, and not necessarily some people may not be
Speaker 1: none of those things, and they just might be doing
Speaker 1: it to make themselves feel good. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you can make a couple of dollars on the sides,
Speaker 1: why not not to mention is not just a couple
Speaker 1: of dollars. I've heard of some girls that made five
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, ten thousand dollars, a hundred thousand dollars. Wouldn't
Speaker 1: only fans kind of make you change your mindset for
Speaker 1: two seconds. Those people that are in college working so
Speaker 1: hard to get a degree, to get not even close
Speaker 1: to that type of money a month. Well, for that
Speaker 1: and many more other things, I'll tell you this much,
Speaker 1: I have an amazing guest today. Not only is she beautiful,
Speaker 1: she's smart, she's an amazing mother, a fantastic wife. She's
Speaker 1: just all of that in a bag of chips. A
Speaker 1: former Navy veteran. I mean, I'm sorry, she's an betteran
Speaker 1: and she's a former I see you nurse, So look
Speaker 1: at that. She's pretty smart as she's bodied. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I can't wait for you guys to talk to Ali.
Speaker 1: Ray my love, how are you? Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining me today? Oh, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: having me. I appreciate it, of course, most definitely. Well,
Speaker 1: I have had the honors of being able to interview
Speaker 1: you already, which we could kind of talk about it already. Um,
Speaker 1: and for that, guys, you have to stay tuned to
Speaker 1: Don't Cancel Me, Don't Cancel Me on Fuse December one,
Speaker 1: my new TV show. UM, I was able to have Ali.
Speaker 1: We had such a good time. We were drinking wine,
Speaker 1: we were being honest on and off camera. She came
Speaker 1: with her husband. By the way, he's so supportive of her.
Speaker 1: He's so sweet, he's so amazing. And I just want
Speaker 1: you added to tell your story for those that may
Speaker 1: not know you, Um, I want to let them know. Originally,
Speaker 1: what did you study? How is your life growing up?
Speaker 1: And then the transformation from zero to a thousand? Yeah
Speaker 1: for sure, UM. So I mean growing up, I actually
Speaker 1: grew up and pretty like my family was pretty poor. Um.
Speaker 1: I had a pretty broken home. You know, a lot
Speaker 1: of toxicity in the household. Um. And so I went
Speaker 1: into the Navy at seventeen to just kind of get
Speaker 1: away escape. UM. I think it spiraled me into being
Speaker 1: like an overachiever because then I went on and I
Speaker 1: got multiple degrees. And after the Navy, I ended up
Speaker 1: becoming a nurse. UM. And so I did nursing and
Speaker 1: excelled in that as well well up into my doctorate. UM.
Speaker 1: And then the pandemic hit. Yeah, the pandemic hit, and
Speaker 1: I think things just changed for me. I don't know
Speaker 1: really what it was, but it was like a mindset.
Speaker 1: I think, like a lot of us felt kind of
Speaker 1: like a little underappreciated maybe, UM. And my husband I
Speaker 1: lost his job, so you know, we started to just
Speaker 1: like I had an Instagram, I would just like post things,
Speaker 1: um like, just like more like vlogging or beer reviews.
Speaker 1: And some girls at work have found my Instagram which
Speaker 1: led them to see that, Um, I also had an
Speaker 1: only fans um which, by the way, I'm sorry guys,
Speaker 1: just in case you're still now putting two and two together.
Speaker 1: Alie Ray is that famous nurse, that famous veteran that
Speaker 1: was popular all over social media, like her story went
Speaker 1: viral like it went viral because she basically got fired
Speaker 1: from her job as a nurse for having an only
Speaker 1: fans page. Like, how unfair is that? Um? When you
Speaker 1: found out? You know, we'll actually know when you're co
Speaker 1: workers found out, because those were those nosey as bitches.
Speaker 1: They were over there hating and they got too fired.
Speaker 1: First of all, how did you feel that? Were you
Speaker 1: friends with any of them? Did you share that you
Speaker 1: had an only fans with anybody at work? How was that? No?
Speaker 1: I had never talked about it with anyone, honestly, just
Speaker 1: my husband and I. And the thing is on the unit. Um,
Speaker 1: I was really I got along with everyone respected. It
Speaker 1: wasn't like when this happened, I was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I know it's probably that you know, I know who
Speaker 1: it was. I had no clue, and I knew, like
Speaker 1: there's somebody around me that like, it's along with me
Speaker 1: every day that I probably eat lunch with. Um. That's
Speaker 1: what was the most heartbreaking. It was like it was
Speaker 1: such a vindictive thing. Like I could tell people were
Speaker 1: going out of their way to make this like an
Speaker 1: issue for me, and I was like, I've never done
Speaker 1: anything these people like. I was always so helpful, friendly. Um.
Speaker 1: You know, really it was really really like a blind side.
Speaker 1: It was. It hurt me more in that way, you
Speaker 1: know that I I felt like people were judging me
Speaker 1: and dismissed everything you know about me prior that. I
Speaker 1: was a very educated nurse and I was super you know,
Speaker 1: ambitious and stuff on the unit and helpful. So it
Speaker 1: was really it was a really crappy situation. It really was.
Speaker 1: It's toxic. At some point, do you consider that it
Speaker 1: was almost a blessing that they found out and you
Speaker 1: got fired from your job? Yeah, people have asked me that,
Speaker 1: and I think about that. I'm like, you know, I
Speaker 1: know I would have left eventually because the amount of
Speaker 1: money I was making, like it made absolutely zero sense
Speaker 1: for me to continue to work, you know, fifty hours
Speaker 1: a week on my feet like that. Um, I think
Speaker 1: it's just more of the nature of how I was
Speaker 1: pushed out and I wasn't ready. I still love what
Speaker 1: I did, and I didn't get a chance to come
Speaker 1: with like two terms. So I mean it was a
Speaker 1: blessing because it excelled my business. Obviously, it basically pushed
Speaker 1: me out, and maybe that's what I needed, because, like
Speaker 1: I said, it wasn't any reason for me to be
Speaker 1: working at that time. I just I didn't want I
Speaker 1: didn't I liked it. I liked going to work. I
Speaker 1: really did. Like I've said before, I think that people
Speaker 1: have a certain mindset of the people that do only
Speaker 1: fans without knowing that you can be an extremely well
Speaker 1: educated person, be a person of morals and all, you know,
Speaker 1: all types of values, and still do only fans because
Speaker 1: you're open minded. Do you feel that your family, friends,
Speaker 1: or whomever are being judgmental towards you for doing that?
Speaker 1: Does your family support you with your only fans account
Speaker 1: or your kids? Yeah? So like my little sister. UM.
Speaker 1: She actually found out before I went viral, because she
Speaker 1: found a viral TikTok you know that she came across it.
Speaker 1: So I had a conversation with her. She was the
Speaker 1: first person outside of my husband and I that we
Speaker 1: told UM. She's very supportive. I don't speak with my
Speaker 1: mom or dad much, so I didn't never really was
Speaker 1: concerned about their opinion. But my children, I was incredibly
Speaker 1: concerned because my oldest is eighteen and I'm seventeen and twelve,
Speaker 1: so the too older too. We we definitely had to
Speaker 1: take them to dinner, sit down, have a conversation with them,
Speaker 1: like UM in a vanilla way, you know, besides just
Speaker 1: busting out and telling them exactly what was going on.
Speaker 1: It was like they kind of grasped and understood and
Speaker 1: they respected it and they knew. I think for them
Speaker 1: it was comforting once they knew, like, Okay, you know
Speaker 1: mom and dad were both doing this. It's not like
Speaker 1: Mom's doing this behind that's back type thing. Um and so.
Speaker 1: But the support has been great. I haven't had any
Speaker 1: problems with that. Talking about support, I know that there's
Speaker 1: so many toxic relationships or there's so many because I
Speaker 1: consider myself to be slightly toxic. Um, I been feeling
Speaker 1: like what's mine is mind? Like, if that's my dick,
Speaker 1: I'm not sharing with nobody, You're gonna show nobody now. However, Uh,
Speaker 1: your husband actually was cool as hell to support you
Speaker 1: with what you were doing. He wasn't like super judgmental
Speaker 1: to you about it. How was how was that conversation
Speaker 1: because originally you shoot it off by yourself, cute pictures,
Speaker 1: boom boom boom. Then from there, I'm guessing you went
Speaker 1: to like, maybe let me just show a little bit
Speaker 1: of nipple, like all right. Then from there I was like, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna as well, just show my
Speaker 1: ass crack. And from an ass crack, it was like, look,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna show you this, you know, let me
Speaker 1: just show you my old Like, um, how was that
Speaker 1: transition to to actually, you know, telling your husband, hey, listen,
Speaker 1: would you like to you know, join me in my
Speaker 1: own parents? Yeah? I mean I think you know, he's
Speaker 1: definitely still not. He doesn't like camera. He's very camera shy.
Speaker 1: He doesn't show us face on there. Um. I think
Speaker 1: in the beginning, you know, we had a lot of requests.
Speaker 1: People would ask for stuff, and I've been in the
Speaker 1: beginning from my only fans, very very upfront with all
Speaker 1: my subscribers. I'm a very married woman. You are not
Speaker 1: gonna sweep me off my feet, like I'm not leaving
Speaker 1: him like so, I think it was important for me
Speaker 1: to for him to have a person take you know,
Speaker 1: this was important. It just was so. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: really grown with it, but it's certainly I mean it's
Speaker 1: something that there's things I do now on him that
Speaker 1: I never thought I would. But you know, you grow
Speaker 1: with it and you get a little more what I
Speaker 1: didn't tell me, like what do you what have you done?
Speaker 1: Like everything we feel full, the full shebang. I mean,
Speaker 1: we definitely do everything on there. Um yeah, I said
Speaker 1: getting fun in your ass because we already found that
Speaker 1: out on don't cancel me. Your booty is not part
Speaker 1: of the deal. It's no, it's not happening. Yeah, it's scary.
Speaker 1: It's scary back there. It's okay though. It's okay though.
Speaker 1: But I love the fact that he supports you. Um.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that your children and you you
Speaker 1: guys were such a mature you know, uh, you're a
Speaker 1: mature family to come together and a united family to
Speaker 1: come together and be like, look, we're gonna have this
Speaker 1: conversation with you. You know, we're adults where your parents
Speaker 1: were together, and um, we're gonna be doing this. Obviously,
Speaker 1: you guys don't have to see it. I'm glad that
Speaker 1: it came from you and they didn't have to find out,
Speaker 1: like you know, someone in school or something like that
Speaker 1: that they could get bullied for or whatever the case
Speaker 1: may be. Does your youngest truly comprehend what an only
Speaker 1: fans is? No? No, I mean I think it's just
Speaker 1: more of like a modeling thing, um and stuff like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: there's no, And I think it's still you know, he's twelve,
Speaker 1: but he's very young at heart. Still, he's more like nine.
Speaker 1: You know, he's there's some room there where he'll have
Speaker 1: to you know, as he gets older, he'll understand more
Speaker 1: and kind of what's going on. But you know, it's
Speaker 1: kind of, Uh, it's weird because it's like it is
Speaker 1: like a body positivit thing. It's like very hard because
Speaker 1: you don't want to shame it. And the way you
Speaker 1: come about it, it's like almost like when you hide
Speaker 1: it or you try to like no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's almost like you're reinforcing that shame.
Speaker 1: So it's been a really hard balance to really try
Speaker 1: to make sure that I'm presenting it in a way
Speaker 1: that you know, it doesn't come off that way. So it's, yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a learning process. It's it's not easy. I mean,
Speaker 1: I remember, imagine a lot of people in this industry
Speaker 1: have this issue with children, especially when you have three boys.
Speaker 1: It's it's definitely talking about three boys. I know that
Speaker 1: there's a lot of single mothers or there's a lot
Speaker 1: of mothers overall period to listen to my podcast, and
Speaker 1: a lot of them may feel so conscious about their bodies.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie, and I'm gonna be honest. Look,
Speaker 1: I used to wait to thirty pounds. My body has
Speaker 1: gone through a lot of you know, roller coasters. Sometimes
Speaker 1: I'm fast, Sometimes I'm skinny. Sometimes I think I'm think
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, like my body be
Speaker 1: all over the place. Sometimes you seem me skinny, and
Speaker 1: then sometimes all of a sudden thing, I just gained
Speaker 1: like twenty pounds, so I have stretch marks, I have
Speaker 1: selling light, I got dimples. My confidence is late because
Speaker 1: no matter what, I can still get it. Period. I
Speaker 1: can still take your and so don't play with me. However, however,
Speaker 1: you also have an amazing story when it comes to
Speaker 1: your body transformation. You weren't always the girl that we
Speaker 1: see today on only fans. At one point in life,
Speaker 1: you were a little bit thicker, a little bit stronger.
Speaker 1: Tell me about, um, you your confidence, how you were before,
Speaker 1: and how only fans you know, helped your confidence. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I you know, I started. I had my first child eighteen,
Speaker 1: and then I had another one in nineteen, and then
Speaker 1: another one a couple of years later. So I mean
Speaker 1: there was like all these years where there was like
Speaker 1: this babyweight that just kept putting on, and of course
Speaker 1: it was super difficult to get off. I'm only five four,
Speaker 1: so wait, adds up, you know, really easily on me
Speaker 1: in my height. Um so I had lost like a
Speaker 1: hundred and twenty pounds back in my Yeah, and I
Speaker 1: was always, even in high school, kind of like a
Speaker 1: thicker girl. Um back then you would call thick, you know,
Speaker 1: early you know, late nineties. But now it's like it's
Speaker 1: acceptable to be curlier and thick, you know, amongst women
Speaker 1: at least men always liked us that way, but women
Speaker 1: now are like, okay, I want a booty. But so
Speaker 1: I think when I lost the weight, there was definitely
Speaker 1: a shift in me. I mean, the things I could wear,
Speaker 1: I felt cuter. I got attention that I never had before. Um,
Speaker 1: my confidence went up. And I think my husband's seen
Speaker 1: that too, And you know, it was like it was
Speaker 1: happy for me because you know, to be so young
Speaker 1: and have all these babies, those are like my prime
Speaker 1: years and my body was like not the body of
Speaker 1: a twenty year old, you know. Um, and that was depressing.
Speaker 1: So that really started a lot, and of course spiraling
Speaker 1: into this, you know, especially what I'm doing now. You're right,
Speaker 1: Like I remember thinking, who the hell would want to
Speaker 1: see me? Make it like I have a mom body
Speaker 1: in here, stretch marks tell you like the whole nine yards,
Speaker 1: you know, like just in body, a real body, a
Speaker 1: real body. Yes, it's like not it's not perfect and
Speaker 1: so um that's what I liked about Only fans though,
Speaker 1: because that's kind of what they want, because let's be real,
Speaker 1: they could get all the photoshop stuff on Insta and
Speaker 1: everywhere else if they want to see the real thing.
Speaker 1: And it feels more candid, and it feels more natural.
Speaker 1: And so for me that was like wow, like this
Speaker 1: is a real mean being put on there and people
Speaker 1: like it, and that that was definitely a confidence booster
Speaker 1: people from being like a regular mom, regular nurse, regular life.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure soccer or whatever sports in the weekends, right,
Speaker 1: tell me to take me through the first time. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's one thing. Listen, I'm not about taking sexy pictures
Speaker 1: because you guys have already seen my Instagram and you
Speaker 1: know I'm trying to evolve a little bit and cover
Speaker 1: it up two seconds. I'm eager to all the time
Speaker 1: to be like, let me just show my ask one time.
Speaker 1: But let me just show my ask one time. But
Speaker 1: tell me and take me through the process of the
Speaker 1: first time you actually decided to, you know, have sex
Speaker 1: openly on only fans like that one time. Okay, look babe,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do it. So all right, you know, just
Speaker 1: say like that send you know that that tell me
Speaker 1: how it was for you to finally put up your
Speaker 1: first video. Yeah, you know. Um so even to this day,
Speaker 1: I think it's the most natural one. It's not like stage,
Speaker 1: just definitely candid, so there's there's drinks involved because usually
Speaker 1: you know, we'll go to dinner, have some drinks, you know,
Speaker 1: you come home and it's kind of like, oh, let's
Speaker 1: just pop the camera on the tripod and you you know,
Speaker 1: and I think if you go into it thinking, well,
Speaker 1: if we don't like, we don't got to post it,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like, let's just film it.
Speaker 1: We don't like it, we don't got to post it? Um?
Speaker 1: And what is we don't like it? What does we
Speaker 1: don't like it? Mean? What is it like a bad
Speaker 1: sex video? I guess like for me, I would feel like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, like as a girl, be like oh I
Speaker 1: don't like that angle or I really chubby, or I
Speaker 1: don't feel like I look cute or I don't know,
Speaker 1: or like I look sloppy or whatever it might be.
Speaker 1: If it looks like which is probably the good stuff, right,
Speaker 1: all the good stuff what they want? Um. But I
Speaker 1: mean at that point, you know, so I think the
Speaker 1: first time we did and we watched it the next morning,
Speaker 1: and of course I'm like, I can't even watch it
Speaker 1: like until this day. I'm like, just tell me if
Speaker 1: it looks good, like I can't. I'm like I just
Speaker 1: have like super embarrassed inside to watch myself. It's very
Speaker 1: weird to get it. I've done I've done it, but
Speaker 1: I've never posted it because then, like in the moment
Speaker 1: when you're horning, like uh yeah, and then when you
Speaker 1: watch it the next day is like, what the funk
Speaker 1: was that? I don't want to turn it off? I
Speaker 1: know sometimes I'm like, who is this bench? What has
Speaker 1: happened here? But yeah, I think then we watched it
Speaker 1: when you know, the next day we're like, that's pretty hot. Okay,
Speaker 1: let's just let's just throw it out there. And then
Speaker 1: people loved it and they wanted more of it, So
Speaker 1: then it gets to be like, okay, let's make another one.
Speaker 1: That was easy. Um. And so that's kind of how
Speaker 1: it first started to be honest. Yeah, so you went
Speaker 1: from like how was your first your first? I mean, look,
Speaker 1: I've never had an only fans. I've always been eager
Speaker 1: to download it. I've watched it through like other people's phones. Um,
Speaker 1: and then here I feel a little bit awkward because
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. I want to support you because
Speaker 1: now after getting to know your story and after getting
Speaker 1: to know you, I really actually like you like, she's
Speaker 1: such a sweet person away from what you may see
Speaker 1: on her Only Fans, and she's sexy and noddy and
Speaker 1: does all these great things. She's such a really nice person.
Speaker 1: So how was your first week? Like your first week
Speaker 1: on only fans? You went from doing like how much money?
Speaker 1: To like how did it evolve? So? I had started,
Speaker 1: I started this page, people were talking about it. I
Speaker 1: signed up. It was kind of a pain, and he
Speaker 1: asked to be honest to sign up as a creator.
Speaker 1: Almost I even made a comment to my husband like
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not doing this anymore, like I'm done
Speaker 1: with trying this because you have to opo your I
Speaker 1: D So I kind of actually created account and posted
Speaker 1: anything on it. I told a few people in the
Speaker 1: d M s. I went back in there like two
Speaker 1: weeks later, and there was like forties subscribers. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 1: people are like paying and I don't have any content
Speaker 1: on there. So then I started posting our first month
Speaker 1: we closed out, it's almost seven somewhere in there, like
Speaker 1: seven thousand dollars and that was with maybe like eight picks.
Speaker 1: And I was like, okay, alright, so this this is
Speaker 1: real deal, Like let me post a little bit more
Speaker 1: with some effort, and then it just kept going and going.
Speaker 1: You know. We we stayed around that seven to eight
Speaker 1: grand mark for a couple of months and then it
Speaker 1: was like fifty sixty now over three thousand dollars a month.
Speaker 1: I mean, and this we just hit one year on
Speaker 1: the ninth September, So that's all within a year, and
Speaker 1: I mean it grew very very quickly, very quickly, hundred
Speaker 1: thousand a month. How does your change? You know? It
Speaker 1: was its dramatic. I mean it's like I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: I continue to work as a nurse until even when
Speaker 1: I was making sixty seventy grand a month, and I remember,
Speaker 1: looking back, I'm like, who the hell would do that?
Speaker 1: But I never felt like the money was real. It
Speaker 1: always felt like bullshit, like this is this can't be real?
Speaker 1: And it just kept coming in. And of course then
Speaker 1: I learned the platform and what makes you more money,
Speaker 1: and you know, making more videos obviously is where you
Speaker 1: make a lot more money. And so it's like once
Speaker 1: you figure that out, you're like, oh wow, like this
Speaker 1: is a lot. And so I mean, for us, we
Speaker 1: haven't splurged. We bought a new jeep and we're gonna
Speaker 1: build a house. But other than that, like student loans
Speaker 1: have been paid off, credit cards. It's just the basic ship.
Speaker 1: You know, hockey got paid for. I mean, we haven't
Speaker 1: really splurged our checking accounts, just having gone zero to
Speaker 1: a thousand because a lot of people and I personally
Speaker 1: know some people that have created their only fans. They
Speaker 1: studied getting a little bit of money and all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, now you see them full of jewelry. You know,
Speaker 1: they're driving expensive cards, and you know they're eating at
Speaker 1: expensive restaurants every day and just you know, burning out
Speaker 1: the money. Um. But you guys have said it to
Speaker 1: invest and do things differently. You know. I am still
Speaker 1: the girl. Like my husband laughs at me all the
Speaker 1: time because I still am like checking the bill at
Speaker 1: the restaurant. Oh we didn't order that, you know. I'm
Speaker 1: like every time I still stop at TJ Max. Like
Speaker 1: it's funny because like I know, I can buy these
Speaker 1: things for myself. I could go and spend, but I
Speaker 1: love a good deal, and I just think, no matter what,
Speaker 1: I'm always going to be the girl. Like it's funny.
Speaker 1: Though I don't have a problem with the botox or
Speaker 1: what I don't care about the bill for that because
Speaker 1: that goes back into the business. But I think, like
Speaker 1: for me, I don't. I don't foresee myself ever living
Speaker 1: in a very flashy life. So we're definitely gonna have
Speaker 1: a nice home for our family, um and that that
Speaker 1: will probably be the biggest and most splurgeous thing we
Speaker 1: we do. I want a good, nice, beautiful content room.
Speaker 1: There's stuff like that. But yeah, I think I think
Speaker 1: I'm still gonna be that girl wearing flip flops, cut
Speaker 1: off shorts and just very That is honestly me at
Speaker 1: heart and so very humble. Yeah, yeah, you see that's
Speaker 1: nice now talking about how much money you've made on
Speaker 1: only fans and how basically this has um redirected your
Speaker 1: whole career. How was it for you when Only Fans
Speaker 1: for two seconds announced the they were going to start
Speaker 1: taking away the sexual content out of only fans Because originally,
Speaker 1: for those I mean, I know, only fans, to my understanding,
Speaker 1: was just a platform where people could create exclusive content
Speaker 1: for their fan base, whether it was like exclusive music
Speaker 1: videos or exclusive videos whatever. Little by little, especially during
Speaker 1: the pandemic, and started kind of like you know, changing waves,
Speaker 1: and then it became a little bit more of a
Speaker 1: sexual situation. UM, were you panicking like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: my whole lifestyle, my whole money, and my whole everything
Speaker 1: can like go down the drain right now. Well, what
Speaker 1: was ironic is that news broke the same week that
Speaker 1: my story broken went virals, so obviously that it got
Speaker 1: it was kind of like motherfucker, you know, right only
Speaker 1: making the bank. It's like, okay, now you want to
Speaker 1: shut down UM. But in my heart, honestly, what I
Speaker 1: felt like when that occurred, and I did a lot
Speaker 1: of interviews on this UM, people were reaching out because
Speaker 1: they were like, oh, yeah, you make it all this money,
Speaker 1: but now it's going to go away, you know, all
Speaker 1: this whatever. UM Only Fans doesn't have a search feature, Okay,
Speaker 1: so it's not like people can go on there in
Speaker 1: search and artists like, the cool thing is is everyone
Speaker 1: that's on your Only Fans is there because you brought
Speaker 1: them there. They came from your I G or Twitter
Speaker 1: wherever else you're promoting. So I knew in my heart
Speaker 1: there there for me, and they came there for me
Speaker 1: so I could direct them somewhere else. And so I
Speaker 1: will tell you what that news that broke for me personally,
Speaker 1: what I foresee is I definitely don't want to put
Speaker 1: keep all my eggs in one basket with only fans UM.
Speaker 1: I don't trust that there may not be something in
Speaker 1: the future. So I'm going to mirror my only fans
Speaker 1: on at least two other platforms, specifically, probably a platform
Speaker 1: called I Fans and maybe fans Centro, and I'd like
Speaker 1: to just mirror them that way. You know, I have
Speaker 1: the content everywhere, it'll all be the same. But that
Speaker 1: was ultimately goal. I haven't put that in a place ship,
Speaker 1: but that's honestly what I think you're gonna see a
Speaker 1: lot of creators do because it was scary. I mean
Speaker 1: some people that it could have put some girls back
Speaker 1: on the streets. I mean, let's be real, they're making
Speaker 1: a lot of money on there. UM I didn't, I
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had that problem, but there are girls that
Speaker 1: that really really rely on that. You know what, I
Speaker 1: want you to talk about it, and now I'm talking
Speaker 1: about a more serious you know, the more serious aspect
Speaker 1: of only fans um for those that may not know,
Speaker 1: Only fans also gives a safer opportunity for girls who
Speaker 1: feel sexually liberated, financially independent, make their money from home,
Speaker 1: from a studio, from whatever the case may be. But
Speaker 1: a lot of these girls originally started off in the
Speaker 1: streets and um, just in need of feeling like if
Speaker 1: I can't make my money home doing what I'm doing now,
Speaker 1: I might have to go back into the streets. Can
Speaker 1: you talk a little bit about it, um, I don't.
Speaker 1: I know that you're not from that side, but I'm
Speaker 1: sure that you've heard and you've seen other girls that
Speaker 1: truly appreciate this platform because of the liberty it gives you. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, all you need is a cell phone and
Speaker 1: internet and a data plan and you could literally make
Speaker 1: you know, a six figure income. I mean you could,
Speaker 1: you can do whatever. And I think that's huge because
Speaker 1: if you were in this industry, you know, you have
Speaker 1: girls who maybe worked in brothels out and the atta,
Speaker 1: or on the streets or in strip clubs, maybe things
Speaker 1: that they never you know, that put them in harm's way,
Speaker 1: and now you've given them an opportunity to be able
Speaker 1: to to still make money. I also think about people
Speaker 1: that you know don't have the luxury being able to
Speaker 1: go to work period and doing this from home. These
Speaker 1: are the stories that I've heard that people that have
Speaker 1: come to me since my story broke. You know, they'll say,
Speaker 1: please help me, like I need to, I need, I
Speaker 1: need some kind of financial freedom, and um, that's terrible.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the fans should be happy that they
Speaker 1: have thrided a platform like that, and so, you know,
Speaker 1: they could have a lot of people would have been
Speaker 1: in a bad situation real quick, for sure, sure, for sure,
Speaker 1: for sure. And then here's another important part. I never
Speaker 1: knew this two latest talking with you because I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess in my mind automatically assumed like, yeah, they're
Speaker 1: making all this money from I'm thinking like a lot
Speaker 1: of people do. And I know, don't judge being, don't
Speaker 1: cancel me, but I'm just being exactly a lot of
Speaker 1: and this is what it is. But I was just
Speaker 1: thinking like, Okay, all these girls are making all this
Speaker 1: money from only fans, blah bla bla blah blah. You know,
Speaker 1: they don't got no expenses this and that talking to you,
Speaker 1: I realized for those that are making like heavy money
Speaker 1: on only fans, not the ones that are beginning. And
Speaker 1: you're taking like maybe two or three pictures and something
Speaker 1: like that, but the ones that are really like into
Speaker 1: this business full core. You guys do have expenses and
Speaker 1: this goes from hair to makeup to wardrobe too everything else.
Speaker 1: Tell me what it's what expenses look like for an
Speaker 1: only fans girl. Yeah, I mean if you're if you're
Speaker 1: a big time on this platform. I hate that my
Speaker 1: story makes us look a lot very easy to girls,
Speaker 1: because let me tell you, to get to this level,
Speaker 1: it is a business and you are one or maybe
Speaker 1: two man show. Um, you know you have marketing expenses,
Speaker 1: you have promoting expenses. You know you have like you said, wardrobe, hair,
Speaker 1: you know, waxing, you've lighting, Um, there is some gym
Speaker 1: memberships you gotta do. I mean, if you get botox,
Speaker 1: what are all the things that you know you do?
Speaker 1: I mean it is there is a Crapton expenses and
Speaker 1: a lot of it is you really should take your
Speaker 1: income and you know that's just being an industry, entertainment
Speaker 1: industry in general, and put it back into yourself and
Speaker 1: like in terms of marketing yourself and promoting. And you
Speaker 1: do have to do that, and that's very hard for
Speaker 1: people in the beginning to to comprehend. Like what I
Speaker 1: gotta give up like twenty grand a month ago. And
Speaker 1: you know, but that's what we spend. I mean, we
Speaker 1: spend a lot of money a month putting back into
Speaker 1: the business and so um, so many expenses that go
Speaker 1: into it. It is not snap a pick, you're good.
Speaker 1: It is like, well, lingerie, you know, you gotta buy
Speaker 1: all you gotta keep it spicy, you gotta keep all
Speaker 1: the things you know going, and so um. We have
Speaker 1: a crafton expenses. A lot in taxes. Let's not let's
Speaker 1: not forget the tax talk about the taxes. Those that
Speaker 1: may not know. Yes, you may be making a lot
Speaker 1: of money on the only fans. Bet okay, guess why
Speaker 1: you still gotta get that cartin and continue right back.
Speaker 1: How much in taxes are we talking about? Just to
Speaker 1: have an idea, Oh my gosh, okay, well, I'm this
Speaker 1: is my first year. So I in twenty twenty two.
Speaker 1: I am terrified because I went from a bracket making
Speaker 1: you know, maybe eighty nine gran a year two now
Speaker 1: I'm making a hundreds of thousands a month. I can't
Speaker 1: even imagine when my taxes give me. But I know
Speaker 1: it's thirty seven percent, is what I hear. Now you
Speaker 1: can write stuff off, so you know, I'll definitely have
Speaker 1: someone to help me with that. But you're not. You're
Speaker 1: not walking away through. You're gonna pay, you know, hundred
Speaker 1: two or three hundred thousand dollars a year in taxes
Speaker 1: like you just will. And that's it's hard that. That's
Speaker 1: another reason I like Florida. I want to know, and
Speaker 1: another already asked you, but I want to know what
Speaker 1: is your un of view and how do you feel
Speaker 1: about prostitution becoming legalized? Because that was something that I
Speaker 1: was thinking about, Like if for any instant white reason,
Speaker 1: because this is still a sexual service, if for any
Speaker 1: instant white reason, Um, you know, women had an opportunity
Speaker 1: of having like a license or whatever and being illegalized.
Speaker 1: You know, I I'm a prostitute or a woman that
Speaker 1: provides certain sexual services whatever. And then on top and
Speaker 1: then the top of that, after they, after they, after
Speaker 1: you did your gold all, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: beat up and stretched out and all these things. Now
Speaker 1: I gotta pay you taxes for that too. How do
Speaker 1: you feel about that? I hate the tax thing. I
Speaker 1: think that's insane. I think taking any of anyone's income
Speaker 1: just because you make that's that is a problem. Like
Speaker 1: the more money you make, the more they're gonna take.
Speaker 1: And unfortunately it's like, but you work hard for that.
Speaker 1: You know, nobody just has that handed to they They
Speaker 1: get back to the community to fix the streets and
Speaker 1: you know, provide certain services for the community. So I guess,
Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean, I guess if your money is
Speaker 1: going it is it's it's hard, It's that's a whole
Speaker 1: another topic in itself. But I mean, I feel like
Speaker 1: in terms of the prostitution thing, you know, I never
Speaker 1: want to hear I don't ever like the idea of
Speaker 1: the government telling a woman what they can do with
Speaker 1: their body, you know, and that if they want to.
Speaker 1: You know, models make money off their body by pictures.
Speaker 1: You know that it's very very er um and so
Speaker 1: that kind of that part sucks. And so to say
Speaker 1: legalized prostitutions will be wonderful if we could do that, um.
Speaker 1: But I do agree there has to be a safe way.
Speaker 1: We can't, I mean, because there's you get the trafficking
Speaker 1: that comes into play and stuff, and that stuff worries me.
Speaker 1: So you don't want to make it easier for those
Speaker 1: type of people. But at the same time, you know,
Speaker 1: I like the idea license or registered or you know,
Speaker 1: some kind of thing like that. I feel like if
Speaker 1: there's a way to do it where it it definitely
Speaker 1: is safe and um that and you can and you
Speaker 1: can track these women down, because that's that's the most
Speaker 1: important part. For example, being able to do it an
Speaker 1: only fans. It provides you a safe space for you
Speaker 1: to do it. Everybody knows you have to provide your
Speaker 1: ide like there's you know, we can track you down. Um.
Speaker 1: But for the girls that are out here in these
Speaker 1: streets doing it, you know, they're afraid to tell anyone.
Speaker 1: They're you know, they're afraid to talk about it with
Speaker 1: their families, or they feel exchanged or whatever. You know,
Speaker 1: they can get lost out here and then nobody would
Speaker 1: ever even know. So definitely I think that that, you know,
Speaker 1: since we're still talking about you know, sexual services, Um,
Speaker 1: I think that that would be great. Now here's another
Speaker 1: thing that I'm thinking, because I'm was thinking as a businesswoman,
Speaker 1: as an entrepreneur and all that good stuff. You were
Speaker 1: trying to think of ways of making more money out
Speaker 1: of this. So you're making all this money out of
Speaker 1: only fans right now? Do you see yourself maybe perhaps
Speaker 1: you know, growing into just the pornography industry and just
Speaker 1: like only fans could be part of it, But how
Speaker 1: about just taking it a step further? Would you do it? Um?
Speaker 1: I don't think so, because that to me doesn't seem
Speaker 1: as UM, it's not really me. Like I feel like
Speaker 1: what I like about only fans is it's my business,
Speaker 1: my it's it's it's my life, and it's it's really
Speaker 1: cool that you have control. You have that control, and
Speaker 1: so I like that, and I like the non scripted.
Speaker 1: I like the natural candid you know, that's that's definitely fun.
Speaker 1: I foresee for me for my future, UM, definitely continuing
Speaker 1: and entertainment in general, like not just the only fans.
Speaker 1: You know, I have that always, But I like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, I want to educate. I want to talk
Speaker 1: to people. There's a lot of people reaching out to
Speaker 1: me about helping them, you know, grow something from zero
Speaker 1: to six you know quickly like that and giving my
Speaker 1: tips and help people. So that's something that I have
Speaker 1: great interest in. I love these open conversations like this.
Speaker 1: This is stuff that I think needs to be talked about.
Speaker 1: And that's why you know, I'm I definitely want to
Speaker 1: have a part of that, and I feel like that's
Speaker 1: where my sweet spot is going to be. I also
Speaker 1: was thinking like, if you guys have been able to
Speaker 1: create such an amazing team between your husband and yourself, UM,
Speaker 1: and you've been able to figure out, you know, the
Speaker 1: niche into being able to grow this brand, would you
Speaker 1: be would you be open to creating some type of
Speaker 1: business where you can help provide the same service and
Speaker 1: maybe commission off other girls that are working on Only Fans. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know that's what's Only Fans does have a referral program.
Speaker 1: It's not the greatest program, but it is kind of
Speaker 1: nice because, um, you know, you do earn a little
Speaker 1: bit of commission off them, not not from the creator's earnings.
Speaker 1: You know, you aren't. Only Fans gives you a portion
Speaker 1: it so it doesn't cost the creator anything. UM. The
Speaker 1: issue and that it's kind of nice because that means
Speaker 1: my time to educate and help and train and mentor
Speaker 1: those people is worth it. UM Because certainly at this point,
Speaker 1: you know, you, when you get to this level, you
Speaker 1: start charging for time and that's that's really what it
Speaker 1: boils down to. UM. But I think, UM, in general,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to do something off of that too,
Speaker 1: Like you said, I really want to do some kind
Speaker 1: of master series or training program that you know, I
Speaker 1: could sell to someone and like have them under my
Speaker 1: wing and do live you know, feeds and videos and
Speaker 1: one on ones and mentor shing. I want to be
Speaker 1: under your wing. Listen, I don't have an only fans
Speaker 1: because I'm scared. I'm scared about endorsements, my future. You know,
Speaker 1: in this industry, of the entertainment industry, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things. I'm notna lie, I'm only but human, and
Speaker 1: I've thought about it. I've seen other girls do it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, ship, I could do it. I got titties
Speaker 1: asking the dot two like, I could be sexy. I
Speaker 1: can try it, um. But then you know, there's this
Speaker 1: there's this a stigma when it comes to having an
Speaker 1: only fans where a lot of brands will be like, no,
Speaker 1: you know, you're not good for our brand because you
Speaker 1: have an only fans and da da da da. But
Speaker 1: maybe if you did it on the low, because I
Speaker 1: know that there's girls that use masks wigs. What have
Speaker 1: you seen on only fans, Like what type of fetishes
Speaker 1: or what type of like freaky stuff or people into
Speaker 1: an only fans. Yeah, there's a lot of That's what's
Speaker 1: cool about all the fangs. You can make your business
Speaker 1: whatever you want to be. There's people that don't show
Speaker 1: their face that just do fee. You know that you
Speaker 1: could do what you're comfortable with. Um I tell you,
Speaker 1: I would consider myself a fairless shelter girl prior to
Speaker 1: this um in this industry. And when I came on
Speaker 1: here and the things people are asking, I literally thought
Speaker 1: they were jokes, some of them. And that's not to
Speaker 1: be a disrespectful way, but they have to understand. Some
Speaker 1: of this stuff is so foreign to me that it
Speaker 1: was like wow, like that's a sexual thing for people,
Speaker 1: But um, I have there's there's a lot like for
Speaker 1: one I don't. We talked about one the other day
Speaker 1: on your show and about these people that are turned
Speaker 1: on by like sneezing and the anticipation of its coming.
Speaker 1: That was so rare to me and I actually like
Speaker 1: I was researching the psychology of that ship like all night.
Speaker 1: I was like, well, let me understand this, but break
Speaker 1: it down. The anticipation of sneezing is like what to
Speaker 1: be like why just the you know, they like to
Speaker 1: watch the sneeze build up. The build up is very
Speaker 1: important and the tissues reportant. I ask you what boogers
Speaker 1: to like the snot and everything or no, that's another level,
Speaker 1: like you know what they do that one I asked.
Speaker 1: I asked these questions. I'm like, you know, do you
Speaker 1: want to see the sneeze? I mean, I don't know
Speaker 1: what you know? So, yeah, there's there's like all different
Speaker 1: levels of it. Man. They're like very serious about it,
Speaker 1: and it's such good money because especially the fetish world,
Speaker 1: they know that, let's be real, they know there's it's
Speaker 1: a little weird and it's hard to for them probably
Speaker 1: to approach girls to ask these things, you know, and
Speaker 1: so when they find someone that's willing to do it
Speaker 1: for them, they are loyal as hell um and I
Speaker 1: love it. I never want my people to make them
Speaker 1: feel like I think we use the word weird or
Speaker 1: different like loosely, but I think even they know, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: this isn't the norm, Like obviously not a lot of
Speaker 1: people are running around, you know, getting turned on by sneezes.
Speaker 1: But it's uh, they're very loyal you know, because they
Speaker 1: you know, they build that connection with you. But I
Speaker 1: love the fact that only fans let to be you know,
Speaker 1: sex really free. It allows women like yourself to become
Speaker 1: financially independent by finding a different source of income. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, I am like judgment free zone. I'm just
Speaker 1: a curious cat. I'm curious to know about all these
Speaker 1: things because I feel that, like myself, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of people that are curious but don't have anyone to ask,
Speaker 1: and maybe are afraid to ask. If you had any
Speaker 1: advice for any girl out there, and guys too, Let's
Speaker 1: not think the only Fans is just for women. There
Speaker 1: are men out here making a lot of money out
Speaker 1: of only fans as well. If you had any advice
Speaker 1: for some girl that maybe shy or scared or doesn't
Speaker 1: know how to take her first step, but really wants
Speaker 1: to get into only fans, what advice would you give her?
Speaker 1: I would say, you know, start off with what you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with. You may know, okay, if I post a
Speaker 1: full frontal, I'm gonna get more money, But don't do that,
Speaker 1: because the last thing you want to do is start
Speaker 1: on this platform, make yourself feel like crap about yourself
Speaker 1: and have all these regrets, and then you won't be successful.
Speaker 1: It's okay if you start off and all you're comfortable
Speaker 1: showing is maybe you're booty and a thong, like it
Speaker 1: is what it is. And I think if you maintain,
Speaker 1: you know, kind of let yourself build to what you're
Speaker 1: comfortable with, that's important because this this industry can really
Speaker 1: really mess with your psyche and it can build confidence
Speaker 1: or it can really tear you down. And so I
Speaker 1: think that's important to be okay with everything you do
Speaker 1: and make sure everything you have you do do you
Speaker 1: are willing to accept that that potentially could go public
Speaker 1: because it's real, people will take your ship and that
Speaker 1: that is a hard thing. You know, you to this day,
Speaker 1: you know, there's certain things I don't do um on
Speaker 1: only things that people have asked me to do. I'm
Speaker 1: just not comfortable with it. I don't want to do
Speaker 1: it um And yeah, sometimes it's like but I'll pay
Speaker 1: you five grow and you're like, awesome, But I'm just
Speaker 1: not comfortable doing that and I don't want that out
Speaker 1: in the public. So I think just being real with
Speaker 1: yourself about it, because it's definitely a psychologue. There's a
Speaker 1: there's a psychological shift. You're gonna have when you started
Speaker 1: only fans into where you become very successful on only fans. Okay,
Speaker 1: so there you go. Those are the best tips right now.
Speaker 1: You heard it from her. She's making three hundred thousand,
Speaker 1: three d and sixty almost four hundred thousand dollars a month,
Speaker 1: so she knows your ship. Oh, not to mention the
Speaker 1: fact that also remember right, give those tips too. It's
Speaker 1: not just about the content that you post. You also
Speaker 1: have to get back into your business by getting a
Speaker 1: marketing team, right you said, what else you need to have?
Speaker 1: You you are going to be your own marketing team
Speaker 1: until you're willing to hire out and delegate stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: you you gotta. You have to be active on every
Speaker 1: social you have to. You have to remember people can
Speaker 1: get born anywhere for free. Why are they going to
Speaker 1: play for it from you? Because they want to see you.
Speaker 1: So you need to make sure you're building your brand,
Speaker 1: your personality, you and that myself. That is more time
Speaker 1: than only fans, just building that exposure and that's important,
Speaker 1: very important, or you won't grow well most definitely, and
Speaker 1: people want to follow you on your social media platforms
Speaker 1: or download and subscribe to your only fans. Where can
Speaker 1: they find you. Uh, you know, I always tell people
Speaker 1: just to go to the alley raid dot com. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna has it is a link tree there has all
Speaker 1: my links to everywhere. But I'm your most platforms. I'm
Speaker 1: the Ali ray A L L I E r A.
Speaker 1: You already know I want to download. I don't even
Speaker 1: have it on my phone. I really don't, but I
Speaker 1: want to download and only fans just so that I
Speaker 1: can support you. Because I know that you're doing great
Speaker 1: things with this money, for your family, for yourself, and
Speaker 1: you're an amazing woman. And I am inspired by your
Speaker 1: work ethic and the way that you're making things happen
Speaker 1: and inspiring other women as well. I love talking to
Speaker 1: you guys every Thursday. Allie ray thank you so much
Speaker 1: for joining us today. I have had so much fun
Speaker 1: talking to you. I've learned so much and I'm really
Speaker 1: considering opening my only fans if I call you on
Speaker 1: the low, Hey, listen, I need to help me out.
Speaker 1: You already know. By day I want to know from
Speaker 1: my exact my exactly a Mada fans. Guys, would you
Speaker 1: like to see me with an only fans? If I
Speaker 1: had an only fans, would you guys subscribe. I just
Speaker 1: want to know because like if I get a lot
Speaker 1: of people say yes, oh my god, I think I
Speaker 1: am I doing I think I am I doing it?
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