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Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This He's Talking Cowboys

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Speaker 1: Screaming live from the Dallas Cowboys World Headhars at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Frisco. Helloing to the live Sack Foscott teacher

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Speaker 1: back today and now your hosts Isaiah stand Back, heck

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Speaker 1: My Harrison, Rob Phillips, and Kyle Yeoman's. It's a Thursday

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Speaker 1: edition of Talking Cowboys from thest WBC Mortgage Studios and

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Speaker 1: the Star in Frisco. Welcome in, everybody, Glad you're with us.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Yeoman's alongside Isaiah stand Back, Rob Phillips and heck

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Speaker 1: Ma Harrison. I won't call Heckma the sultry voice of

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Speaker 1: heck Ma Harrison today because he apparently doesn't like that,

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Speaker 1: and when we learned that yesterday at the start of

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Speaker 1: the show. So I'm gonna I'm gonna retire that nickname

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Speaker 1: officially starting now. We got some other ones we're gonna

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Speaker 1: come up with. Yeah, we'll get to that point at

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Speaker 1: some time. I mean, I personally like the Arby's man.

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Speaker 1: I personally like the Arby's that we have. The means up,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know if that's a sponsorship

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Speaker 1: issue at least, but well we'll throw it in there.

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Speaker 1: But glad you're with us here. I mean, we got

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Speaker 1: we got to Kyle before the show. If people can

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Speaker 1: listen to the show like three, we may not have

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Speaker 1: jobs good. It might might be the case if we're

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Speaker 1: being no, no, no, you you know you you guys

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Speaker 1: that brought it to me whatever. Okay, that's not true

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Speaker 1: at this point. Oh, but we're gonna talk about this

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offense versus the Steelers. It's pretty good, Uh, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers defense, so it's just one of the best in

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Speaker 1: the NFL against this Cowboys offense, who at least over

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Speaker 1: the last couple of weeks has not gotten off the ground.

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Speaker 1: But before we get in to the matchups there, Rob,

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Speaker 1: we did see the Cowboys yesterday in practice and a

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Speaker 1: little bit of an injury report surprise yesterday. We heard

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Speaker 1: about Chris Jones from Mike McCarthy on Tuesday, But Ezekiel

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Speaker 1: Elliott showing up and he was limited in practice. Have

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Speaker 1: you heard anything further on what Zeke's situation is at

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Speaker 1: the moment. Well, Zeke was limited with a hamstring. I

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Speaker 1: believe it was on the injury report and Alden Smith

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Speaker 1: with a knee, both limited. Doesn't sound like anything to

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Speaker 1: be alarmed about going into this week. It is twenty twenty,

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Speaker 1: it is the Cowboys this season, so you know, it

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Speaker 1: always raises your eyebrows, like what else can happen to

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Speaker 1: this team? But I don't think at this point. It

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Speaker 1: sounds like they're probably just trying to manage both guys,

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Speaker 1: get him to the game. And you know, Zeke talked

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Speaker 1: yesterday about having to chop wood, you know, keep coming

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Speaker 1: at it in the run game to try to help

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys get some balance in this game, and obvious

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Speaker 1: they're gonna need it in this game now. Injury report

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Speaker 1: was not good when I saw Zeke there with the hamstring,

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Speaker 1: But you know, as you said, man, it's just maybe

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Speaker 1: one of those things where you're getting guys some rest,

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Speaker 1: especially if they're nicked up. For me, Aldon Smith the knee,

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Speaker 1: and Isaiah said something about this a couple of shows ago,

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Speaker 1: about him possibly being heard and maybe he's dealing with

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Speaker 1: the knee issue. But we'll see it. Sounds like both

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Speaker 1: I think it's more so on that heck than anything

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Speaker 1: I think Alden has. I think we've obviously seen a

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Speaker 1: so I think he's probably a tough dude. He's already

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Speaker 1: quiet dude, so I'm pretty sure he just internalizes it.

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Speaker 1: He's just dealing with, you know, dealing with the pain

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Speaker 1: of whatever he has. So I'm pretty sure they're trying

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Speaker 1: to get him right in terms of in terms of

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Speaker 1: they just make sure his legs right. Yes, well, and

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Speaker 1: Mike Tomlin on conference call with local media in Dallas yesterday,

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Speaker 1: week whether it's Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: he said, either way, we're preparing for Zeke, and that's

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Speaker 1: the Steelers mindset because they know exactly what the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: this game, and let's get the run game going. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's probably also got a little bit of PTSD whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to Elliott and what he did in his

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Speaker 1: you've got to be better. Well, the running back is

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Speaker 1: been visually frustrated from that. That's a point of emphasis

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Speaker 1: for him. Um, I think that's more so his focus

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Speaker 1: this week. Rob. Yeah. I mean I mentioned yesterday or

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Speaker 1: being balanced, and some of that is he said, it's

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Speaker 1: his own fault. Like Isaiah mentioned, the turnovers have hurt

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Speaker 1: their balance, and defensively, their struggles have hurt their balance

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Speaker 1: getting behind on the scoreboard. Man, But I was encouraged

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Speaker 1: awesome last week. I think he you know, seven carries

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Speaker 1: combination of the you know, the musical chairs on the

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Speaker 1: one wants to hear that excuse. They want for Zeke

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Speaker 1: to be dominant. But like you said, Rob, the balance

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Speaker 1: just hadn't been there offensively, and the turnovers have plagued him.

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Speaker 1: Now thankfully he didn't have any against Philly. But also

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Speaker 1: we hadn't seen that. So look, a lot of a

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Speaker 1: nothing catastrophic, and just get those fumbling issues under control.

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Speaker 1: What if Looney bumped over to left guard? Could he

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Speaker 1: basically he said, it's what fantasy football to think about

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Speaker 1: moving Zach to right tackle. But I mean he's done it,

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Speaker 1: feel like their their interior depth, to your point, is

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Speaker 1: better than their tackle depth at this point Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: continue to go back to that continuity and that's what

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Speaker 1: he is all world right there at right guard, but

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Speaker 1: Connor Williams. I want to say he's getting better as

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Speaker 1: And that is the Devil's advocate point. Sorry, Kyle, That

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Speaker 1: just that Mike McCarthy wants to preserve any type of

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Speaker 1: continuity has If he could get the same five starting

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Speaker 1: two weeks in a row, that's a win for him.

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Speaker 1: So that's I think that's probably what he's pointing too well.

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Speaker 1: And I think whenever it comes to that question, Isaiah,

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Speaker 1: would have to mean that Williams would move to tackle.

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Speaker 1: think Looney's an upgrade over but if you're moving him

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Speaker 1: I went and got some sushi Marquis last week. We

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Speaker 1: tried to invite you guys, but I forgot to press end.

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Speaker 1: It was a whole completely three times a week. I know.

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Speaker 1: It's unfors teriscope peop y'all, y'all see how he does this, right,

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Speaker 1: Y'll see how he does me and rot P. That's

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Speaker 1: what you that's what you get for the pre show Shenanigans.

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Speaker 1: That's the retaliation for that. But that's okay. Hey, we'll

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Speaker 1: invite you next time we might go. We might go

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Speaker 1: somewhere over there school. I mean, it's cool. I understand,

449
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Speaker 1: I grew up in a bad neighborhood. Rob has a

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Speaker 1: has a you know, rapper's name rot p. It's all good.

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Speaker 1: I understand. How where the direction is going, we see it.

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Speaker 1: Somebody salting my Harrison, Isaiah stand back, Rob Phillips, and guys,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go through a couple of names for you

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Speaker 1: here on this Steelers defensive side of the football. How

455
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Speaker 1: about this Joe Hayden from Florida cornerback, Minka Fitzpatrick's safety

456
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Speaker 1: from Alabama, Terrell Edmonds out of Virginia Tech. He's a

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Speaker 1: safety as well. T J. Watt, we all know about him.

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Speaker 1: Devin Bush Junior, Bud Dupree, and Cameron Hayward. Those are

459
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Speaker 1: all first round picks starting just the first string on

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Speaker 1: the defense for the Pittsburgh Steelers. All first round picks.

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Speaker 1: So I guess one, two, three, four, five, six, seven,

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00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:43,120
Speaker 1: seven of their eleven starters first round picks in terms

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Speaker 1: of this Pittsburgh defense. Oh and by the way, the

464
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: reigning AFC Defensive Player of the Week, Stephan two it

465
00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: is coming off that left edge and so you've got

466
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Speaker 1: quite the task whenever he comes up against the Steelers

467
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Speaker 1: defense this week, but whenever he comes to the front

468
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Speaker 1: seven or the secondary, which one scares you the most.

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Speaker 1: In the matchup with the Cowboys, this weekeck, But whenever,

470
00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 1: it really could go either way. Man, When you go

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Speaker 1: through those names and all that, it says to me,

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Speaker 1: it's just the legacy that the Pittsburgh Steelers have had

473
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Speaker 1: on defense for so many years. And it just started

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Speaker 1: from I mean from you go back to the Steel

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Speaker 1: Curtain and more recently the Dick lebol defenses with Troy,

476
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Speaker 1: Paulamalu and Porter. I mean, they've all with Harrison, They've

477
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,960
Speaker 1: always had some guys, and now they just continue that

478
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Speaker 1: legacy with more dogs. And you know, we talked about

479
00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden yesterday and his ability to you know, cover

480
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Speaker 1: guys and he's just the master of that zone defense

481
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Speaker 1: that they played. But also Mica Fitzpatrick. Mica Fitzpatrick is

482
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Speaker 1: from Alabama's man, He's about as hard hitting as they come,

483
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Speaker 1: and he's going to be meeting Ezekiel Elliott a lot

484
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Speaker 1: at the line of scrimmage. So you go through those names,

485
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Speaker 1: but I mean guys like Kevin Bush who's hurt and

486
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,280
Speaker 1: is out for the year. But man, you talk about

487
00:25:03,280 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: a young linebacker that is a dog and flies around

488
00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 1: TJ WHT Bud Dupree, all of those guys. Man, And

489
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:14,400
Speaker 1: it's not just, uh, those guys, it's just the rotation

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Speaker 1: that they have with additional guys. Cameron Cameron Hayward, Ironhead,

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Speaker 1: Hayward's son, another guy with it been in the league

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Speaker 1: for I believe eleven years, but has a motor, has

493
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Speaker 1: a motor and is a big part of what they

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Speaker 1: do as far as being a run stuffer. So the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys offensive line, I know that's not fancy talk, but

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Speaker 1: they're gonna have their work cut out for him. But

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Speaker 1: that secondary Mica Fitzpatrick, but also Terrell Edmonds. You talk

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Speaker 1: about him out of Virginia Tech. He's a big part

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Speaker 1: of He's like the glue to that whole thing. So,

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Pittsburgh Steelers defense is like, you know,

501
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Speaker 1: release the cracking every time they take the field. So

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Speaker 1: this is gonna be interesting to see how we, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know, gain any success on this defense. And it's

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00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:05,040
Speaker 1: gonna have to be inch by inch, right. Yeah. Actually, heck,

505
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:06,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna hit you with what you just said.

506
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: Going back to your guy me and Joe, like, just

507
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: watching them on tape, is there any like we've talked

508
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Speaker 1: about just a general thought about the Steelers. We talk

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Speaker 1: about identity with the Cowboys under Mike McCarthy, like, who

510
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 1: do they want to be? What's their culture? The Steelers

511
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: on defense, they've had the same identity for fifty years.

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Speaker 1: Fifty years, it's the same thing. You watch them on tape,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not comparing them to the Steel Curtain of

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Speaker 1: the seventies, but you just watch the way they play,

515
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Speaker 1: how physical they are, and how much speed they have

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Speaker 1: on defense, and it's every decade they've they've had the

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Speaker 1: same type of identity and they've got They've got it now, Kyle.

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Speaker 1: To answer your question, I would say upfront is probably

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Speaker 1: their bread and butter, because I think just watching them

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Speaker 1: a little bit of them on tape, it just seems

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Speaker 1: like the secondary feeds off of their pressure and the

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Speaker 1: way they get after the quarterback and the way they

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Speaker 1: stop things in the run game. You know, the two

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Speaker 1: leading the two leading guys in the league and tackles

525
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Speaker 1: for loss or on the Pittsburgh Steelers, it's TJ wat

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Speaker 1: and I'm blanking right now. No, No, it's Vince Williams.

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Speaker 1: Sorry guy, another guy. And like I thought of I

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Speaker 1: thought of Isaiah when I was watching it the other

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Speaker 1: last night where Isaiah you said they're bullies like Vince Williams. Bullies.

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Speaker 1: Guys you watched, I mean Ryan Tannehill trying to take

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Speaker 1: off and scramble and he got blown up by Vince Williams.

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00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,720
Speaker 1: He looked like one of those tackling dummy toys back

533
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Speaker 1: in the day, you know, just getting thrown around like

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00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:35,879
Speaker 1: these guys are. They're really good. And I think it

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00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:39,919
Speaker 1: comes down to though, their pressure upfront really allows the

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00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: Joe Hayden and Mike and Fitzpatrick and those guys to

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Speaker 1: really fly around and go make plays on the football.

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Speaker 1: If you if you get in third and long against

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Speaker 1: these guys, you're in big trouble. Big trouble. Absolutely correct man,

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00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: and phrase the front seven for me, Kyle, to answer

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Speaker 1: your question. The front seven is they're relentless. That There's

542
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: there's no other word that describes these guys except for

543
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,000
Speaker 1: that they're relentless. They don't stop. You guys talk about

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Speaker 1: the idea. You know, we've talked about. I brought it

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00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:09,840
Speaker 1: up about identity and culture. You know what you're getting

546
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,800
Speaker 1: when you play Pittsburgh. You know exactly what you're getting.

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Speaker 1: There's only a handful of teams that can run with Pittsburgh,

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00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,679
Speaker 1: and that's Baltimore and you know Baltimore probably you know

549
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: Tampa and KC. Just because of the speed of their offenses. Right,

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00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 1: just because they can run with these guys, they can

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00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 1: they can move them, they can make them move off

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00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: their mark. These guys trust their front seven. Their front

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00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 1: seven knows that their job is to get pressure. If

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00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 1: they get pressure, then quarterbacks are gonna make mistakes, right,

555
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: and the quarterbacks make mistakes, they're gonna throw the ball

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Speaker 1: up and probably gonna land in the hands of the

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Speaker 1: defenders of the Steelers. Simply because these Steelers defenders, as

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Speaker 1: good as they are in man to man coverage, as

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Speaker 1: we talk about the Joe Hayden's and you know, and

560
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: all these guys right, as good as they are in

561
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: man and man coverage, guess what, they're not being asked

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00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,600
Speaker 1: to play man to man. No, they if they wanted to,

563
00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 1: They they can play man to man and lock you

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00:28:58,160 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: up if they wanted to. But guess what in a heartbeat,

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00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,480
Speaker 1: why why? Why I put this pressure on you? Hell,

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Speaker 1: how about I take this guy who's an absolute dog

567
00:29:04,960 --> 00:29:06,680
Speaker 1: at man to man coverage and guess what, how about

568
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: I give him a ten a ten yard box that

569
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: he has to cover. How about that? How about take

570
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: the pressure off you and just say I need you

571
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:14,880
Speaker 1: to own this ten yards and I need you to

572
00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: trust the teammates next to you to that they that

573
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Speaker 1: they're gonna do their job as well. And guess what,

574
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Speaker 1: when opportunities present themselves, take advantage of them. If somebody

575
00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:24,240
Speaker 1: presenting stuff to you, knock the win out their dog

576
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Speaker 1: on a chest. And that's all these guys are being

577
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Speaker 1: asked to do. And they are having fun doing it.

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00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,479
Speaker 1: They're playing balls to the wall, they're just it's just

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Speaker 1: it's NonStop, right these guys. And it's it's deflating as

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Speaker 1: an offense. It's very deflating because there's no point in

581
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: the game where you feel like they're gonna wear down, right, Oh,

582
00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: they're gonna give up guys. As you guys talking about,

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Speaker 1: there's a whole new wave right when the guys do

584
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Speaker 1: when you do see them get their hands on their hips,

585
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 1: guess what their coaches pulling them out, and they're bringing

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Speaker 1: in a couple more dogs that are gonna bring just

587
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Speaker 1: the same amount of fire that the original guys did.

588
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:56,320
Speaker 1: So you're gonna have to deal with it all day long,

589
00:29:56,400 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 1: from snap to snap. And as you guys talk about

590
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,120
Speaker 1: those you know, talk about that pressure. He's talking about Rob.

591
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 1: The bullies on this defense. That's what they do and

592
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: they feed off of it, right, They feed off each other,

593
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the energy that they have. They know that they're the

594
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,040
Speaker 1: heartbeat of this team. They're really connected defensively when you

595
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,640
Speaker 1: watch it. Yeah, that's when we talk about being connected

596
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:16,280
Speaker 1: defensively with the Cowboys trying to get to that point.

597
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,720
Speaker 1: The Steelers are at that point. They just work so

598
00:30:18,760 --> 00:30:20,800
Speaker 1: well together from the front seven and the backs in

599
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 1: the back end. And the first thing I thought about it, coaches, God, No,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna just the football cliche of guy's defense

601
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,280
Speaker 1: being like a link in the chain. You know, they

602
00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: played very well together. Everything, all of these positions are strong.

603
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 1: But I just wanted to go back to what you said, Rob,

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Speaker 1: as far as just the culture of the Pittsburgh Steelers man.

605
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Speaker 1: They've been practicing at the same the two of days

606
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: is at Latrobe. It's every year they don't and their

607
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: football organization is filled with football people, right, and so

608
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: this team last year lost Ben Roethlisberger, but still was

609
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 1: a game away from actually making it into the playoffs.

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00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: So we look at your circumstances and you look at

611
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,120
Speaker 1: other teams and you see how they've overcome as well. Now,

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00:31:08,160 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 1: all be it not in the pandemic and all of

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00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: those things that go along with it. But that's the

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Speaker 1: culture that you say, next man up kind of mentality,

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00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:18,600
Speaker 1: even when you lose your number one guy. And so

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Speaker 1: it doesn't matter if you lose your middle linebacker or

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Speaker 1: a defensive end. The product, the product that you're gonna

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00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 1: get on the field is gonna be hard nosed, and

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be hustling, and it's gonna be bullyball no

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00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 1: matter who puts that that helmet on. This is always

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Speaker 1: a this is always an intense week for heck Mon

622
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Speaker 1: because he grew up in a family full of Steelers

623
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: fans with Cowboys fandom oozing from himself. But I will

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,440
Speaker 1: say I completely agree with this point, and I want

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00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: to add to it is the fact that they're bullies

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Speaker 1: on the defensive side. Of the football. And I know

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Speaker 1: we're not going to start a rookie quarterback, but we're

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Speaker 1: gonna start a very inexperienced quarterback no matter what. But

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Speaker 1: rookie quarterbacks are owing five versus the Steelers since twenty seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and rookie quarterback versus the Steelers since so four since

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Speaker 1: two thousand and four. Four and twenty four is their

632
00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: record against the Steeler's offense. And this is just talking

633
00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: about there is a chance. And guess who was the

634
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,720
Speaker 1: last one to do it. Guess who was the last

635
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback it was. It was Dak Prescott. Now, unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: that one of the best games you'll ever see. Oh

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Speaker 1: Glad you're having fun with us. Hope you're having as

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Speaker 1: much fun as we are breaking down this game. Somebody

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Speaker 1: needs a little positivity in their in their life right now.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we have a lot going on in our country,

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Speaker 1: we have a lot going on in our football franchise

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Speaker 1: at the moment. But hey, we're staying positive. We're smiling

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Speaker 1: through it, and we are glad you're here with us.

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Speaker 1: And heck well, you you brought up a great point yesterday.

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Speaker 1: You brought up a point of we need positivity right now.

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Speaker 1: We need to bring some positivity. So let's do that

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Speaker 1: with this Cowboys offense. Let's find the positive side of things.

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Speaker 1: Is there some place that the Cowboys could have some

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Speaker 1: success against the Steelers come Sunday? Heckmah Well, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: make me earn my fifteen dollars earning. I want you

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Speaker 1: to day. I think that's about where you guys are.

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Speaker 1: So you're my cameo numbers. Now, that's what I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about it. So, man um, if I'm looking for anything,

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Speaker 1: it's gonna be and just based off of And this

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Speaker 1: may be a complete fantasy to even think this, because

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Speaker 1: you know in the Baltimore game that the Pittsburgh stealers

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00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,879
Speaker 1: were keying off on Lamar Jackson as well, and that's

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Speaker 1: why that other running backs were able to have success.

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Speaker 1: But that's it. I'm the only thing that I'm looking

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Speaker 1: at is for our running game to try and get established.

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Speaker 1: And if Zeke can't do it because of what Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard did last week, hopefully him as a changeup can

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Speaker 1: have break off some big runs because that's the only

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Speaker 1: place that I see it, especially with the Pittsburgh still

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Speaker 1: a defense being the fifth ranked defense. Keith Butler, the

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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator, has these guys playing lights out, and like

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Speaker 1: we said before, you know, once the running game becomes obsolete,

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Speaker 1: all they're gonna do is pin their ears back and

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Speaker 1: come after us and you know, and crowd the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage and once it gets to that point, it

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Speaker 1: increasingly becomes difficult to run, and so it's gonna I'm

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Speaker 1: hoping that we can have those big gash runs, but

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Speaker 1: also looking at Ezekiel Elliott out of the backfield, and

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Speaker 1: I know that they're going to be keen on that

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Speaker 1: as well. But trying to get him involved in the

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Speaker 1: passing game, and also Tony Pollard involved in the passing game.

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Speaker 1: We talked about him coming out of Memphis being looked

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Speaker 1: at as a flanker receiver type. Hopefully we can get

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Speaker 1: him involved because everything else, as far as getting throws

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Speaker 1: down the field, I don't think Rush or Gilbert is

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Speaker 1: going to be effective there. Rob I want to see

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Speaker 1: I want I want to see Scholtz in our movement.

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Speaker 1: That's what I want to see. I want to see

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Speaker 1: Schultz cotches in somebody these underneath routes and and breaking

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Speaker 1: a tackle. He needs some yack yardage. I think that

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Speaker 1: they're gonna do a lot of two tight just like

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Speaker 1: we did last week. In turn, trying to keep guys

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Speaker 1: in the box and try to block it up as

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Speaker 1: much as possible to give this quarterbacks pressure. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give these quarterbacks somehow give them some relief from the pressure.

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Speaker 1: But I think, I think that whatever we do get

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Speaker 1: on the move, you know, in bootlegs, nakeds, you know,

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Speaker 1: spread out stings of that nature, I think Schultz has

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Speaker 1: to be that guy, um that's that's gonna you know,

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Speaker 1: be the outlet for him. And you know, you turn

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Speaker 1: those five yard players, right, those easy little drop offs

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Speaker 1: um into into twenty yard games if you could break

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Speaker 1: a couple of tackles. They actually, you know, Benda Nucci

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Speaker 1: actually when he got something going late in the game,

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Speaker 1: he seemed to settle in just a little bit. And

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Speaker 1: Schultz was guy he was looking towards late in the

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Speaker 1: game against Philly. Yeah, I mean, it's got to be

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Speaker 1: the run game. And I again I'm encouraged by what

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Speaker 1: they did against Philly last week. I still feel like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the Cowboys receivers can win matchups one on

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Speaker 1: one no matter who they're up against. And to Isaiah's point,

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Speaker 1: they did go more too tight to more twelve personnel

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Speaker 1: last week. I think Cede Lamb only had maybe thirty

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Speaker 1: snaps in the game. But I still think maybe maybe

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Speaker 1: with a more experienced quarterback, whether it's Gilbert or Rush.

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00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,160
Speaker 1: The timing and the rapport isn't there, but there might

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Speaker 1: be more of an opportunity to get the ball down

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00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: the field if they can protect, and that's a huge

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Speaker 1: question mark. But if they can protect, I still believe,

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Speaker 1: you know, we just haven't seen it because of the

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Speaker 1: just the lack of continuity upfront and the lack of

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Speaker 1: continuity at quarterback. But I still think they've got an

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Speaker 1: opportunity to win their battles, get separation, and I think

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Speaker 1: it's going to have to take a chunk player two

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Speaker 1: to win this game. These give yourself a chance to

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Speaker 1: win this game and move the ball offensively. I don't

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Speaker 1: think you can have fifteen play twelve play drives against

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Speaker 1: the Steelers defense. They're eventually going to force you in

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Speaker 1: a mistake. You know, I was watching that game very

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Speaker 1: casually last week against Baltimore, dealing with the baby and everything,

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Speaker 1: and every time I looked up, they were stripping the

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Speaker 1: ball and they're picking it off. So they are they

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Speaker 1: are a high turnover defense. Rob Whenever you talk about

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Speaker 1: the timing and the continuity with an offense and a quarterback,

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Speaker 1: is there going to be that much of a difference?

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Speaker 1: Is that much of an improvement from Ben d Nucci

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Speaker 1: last week to either Cooper Rush or Garrett Gilbert. Whenever

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Speaker 1: it comes to them playing as the starting quarterback, can

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Speaker 1: you get worse? Yeah? Yeah, there you go. I wish

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Speaker 1: I knew that answer. I don't think we're gonna know

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Speaker 1: until we see it. Yeah, but that's just right. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I think I think those guys have a little more experience,

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Speaker 1: just in terms of well, Cooper Rush in this in

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Speaker 1: this offense to begin with, but Danusci's pop presence, I

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Speaker 1: just think he wasn't ready for the speed of this game.

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Speaker 1: And maybe these guys are a little bit more And

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Speaker 1: maybe that's maybe, you know, and that Mike basically said

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Speaker 1: yesterday again against the defense of this caliber, you've got

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Speaker 1: to have more experience. You absolutely have to. That's that's

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Speaker 1: a that's a loaded question, uh, Kyle, And I don't

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Speaker 1: know how you answer it. And the thing is is like,

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Speaker 1: if if these guys are any better than Danucci, hopefully

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Speaker 1: they're better at not getting sacked and fumbling, you know,

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Speaker 1: like hold on to the ball. The the offensive play

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00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: calling has got to be better this week for Rush,

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Speaker 1: our Guilbert who whomever it is, and if we get

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Speaker 1: into the red zone again this week, we gotta punch

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Speaker 1: this end. We gotta get we gotta get points and

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Speaker 1: not a field goal. So that's gonna be very important.

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Speaker 1: But what you say about the Pittsburgh stilla defense is

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Speaker 1: it's also true. Man, these guys are punching and ripping

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Speaker 1: that has just been a fumble turnover machine, that's not

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Speaker 1: that's just not a good thing to walk into a

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Speaker 1: game like this knowing that this Pittsburgh still offense turns

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Speaker 1: those turnovers into points. And that's been that our Achilles

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Speaker 1: hill all season long is turnovers and team scoring point

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Speaker 1: telling those turnovers. So look, ball security, getting into the

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Speaker 1: red zone, if we get in the red zone, actually

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Speaker 1: get in points touchdowns and not field goals, it's going

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Speaker 1: to be important for the Cowboys for sure. Uh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So as we talk about which quarterback, it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: I already said that the rock it really doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: The thing I'm more concerned about is these quarterbacks trying

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Speaker 1: to get the ball out when they when they sense

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Speaker 1: and they see pressure. Right. The reason being is when

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Speaker 1: when Pittsburgh blitzes, they're not blitzing and playing man coverage.

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Speaker 1: They're doing zone blitz. And this is probably the first

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Speaker 1: team that we faced this year that runs a true

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Speaker 1: zone blitz where they're dropping a defensive ends altu into coverage.

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Speaker 1: And Isaiah Isaiah Isaiah Tell explain because people, I don't

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Speaker 1: in man and how a quarterback processes. Now. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: typically whatever you see a blitz right, a lot of

834
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Speaker 1: times it can be man coverage. So if you if

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Speaker 1: they have you know, three down lineman or four down lineman,

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Speaker 1: they'll bring the line backers up the middle right and

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Speaker 1: you know that everybody else is all your receivers, your

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Speaker 1: two three receivers and your tight end are gonna be

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Speaker 1: a man coverage is gonna be one person sticking them

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Speaker 1: versus a zone blitz. Say I step up to the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage as a quarterback and I see two

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Speaker 1: guys looking like they're about to come off the left

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Speaker 1: side right, Well, my eyes go where my eyes go

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00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,600
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Speaker 1: whole middle of the field is open, right, So all

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Speaker 1: get some yack yardage. Pittsburgh knows that. So what do

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Speaker 1: they do. They bring pressure back. They bring pressure from

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Speaker 1: one side. Right, they bring pressure from one side. All

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Speaker 1: ground now drops back into that void into coverage where

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Speaker 1: you know where you you know, you kind of like

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Speaker 1: that because you're in a panic. More. You're like craft

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Speaker 1: they're coming. I have to get out of my hand.

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Speaker 1: I got to get it to my my nearest guy. Well,

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Speaker 1: is looking up for it. He's going towards that guy

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Speaker 1: because he knows that's the only place you can go.

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Speaker 1: With the ball. That's that's the only place you have

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Speaker 1: time to throw the ball. And Lamar Jackson threw a

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Speaker 1: Danusi's first fumble, it's that pocket awareness we're talking about,

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Speaker 1: like he had. I don't know, maybe you shouldn't dial

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Speaker 1: think where a quarterback he's been around a little bit longer,

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Speaker 1: little bit more mindful to football. It should be interesting.

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are gonna have to figure it out on the

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Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football to slow down

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Speaker 1: that Steelers defense. They did it in twenty sixteen. I

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Speaker 1: mean that was a different season than twenty twenty. But

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott had a really big game and we mentioned

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Speaker 1: it a little bit early years. So I'm gonna ahead

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Speaker 1: and sign off for heck Ma Harrison, for Rob Phillips,

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Speaker 1: for Isaiah dan Back, I'm Kyle Yeoman's a special thanks

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Speaker 1: to Chris Beam in the back because he's gonna play

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Speaker 1: us out with one of the best calls that I've

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Speaker 1: heard from Brad Sham, and it's the touchdown run from

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Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott is twenty sixteen. Let's go and play that out.

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Speaker 1: We'll see you tomorrow, talking Cowboys Today, here we go.

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Speaker 1: Run Zeke uptmentally's gone. Jakes talk goodbye, Zeke. Touchdown, short yards,

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Speaker 1: pinched in, the dogs got out. The Cowboys are gonna

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Speaker 1: steal one in Pittsburgh, thirty two yards. This has been

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