1 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:10,959 Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to Savor Prediction of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 2: I'm Annie and I'm Lauren Vogelbaum, and today we have 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: an episode for you about cursow LeCour. 4 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, and what an episode it is. Was there 5 00:00:23,640 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 3: any particular reason this was on your mind? 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: Lauren? Was there? I love this every time? Me too. 7 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 2: I could have been anything. Yeah, I think that I 8 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: was just kind of combing around looking for I had 9 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 2: been looking at Mescal and both of us kind of went, 10 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a lot. And something else on 11 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 2: the web page that I was looking at was talking about. 12 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: Cursow completely legitimate. 13 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:00,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, there I go. 14 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 1: I can come from. 15 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:05,880 Speaker 2: Yeah. Sometimes it's a very well thought out chain, and 16 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: sometimes it's just like my you know, one of my 17 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 2: brain cells just kind of beat booping around in my 18 00:01:12,240 --> 00:01:13,880 Speaker 2: skull until something connects. 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 3: Mm hmmmm mmmm well uh, speaking of beat booping. First 20 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 3: of all, drink responsibility as always. Second of all, I 21 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: have a bottle of blue Curse Owl that I'm convinced 22 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 3: I could be buried with. 23 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,240 Speaker 1: It's huge. Just I don't use that much of it? 24 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:39,039 Speaker 2: No, sure, No, you shouldn't really, I mean, what kind 25 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 2: of things are you using it in? 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 3: So I bought it for Star Wars thing, sure, because 27 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 3: a lot of the Star Wars cocktails because the blue 28 00:01:49,720 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 3: is so splu even though I can make my own 29 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: blue gin, but whatever it called specifically for blue cursew 30 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 3: this drink I was making. I think I've used it 31 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 3: twice since then. It's a huge bottle. 32 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:06,760 Speaker 1: I think it was the smallest bell I could find 33 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,359 Speaker 1: and it was still really real large. 34 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I certainly one of the types of bottles 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,760 Speaker 2: of alcohol that I just sort of wind up collecting 36 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:24,040 Speaker 2: dust with are orange liquors of various kinds, and I 37 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:26,519 Speaker 2: think that I've got because when I was cleaning out 38 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:32,239 Speaker 2: my grandmother's condo, I found deep buried in the back 39 00:02:32,320 --> 00:02:35,760 Speaker 2: of her China hutch a bunch of alcohol that's older 40 00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 2: than I am by a solid twenty years. And most 41 00:02:40,240 --> 00:02:43,920 Speaker 2: of it was like cream liqueurs that you didn't know 42 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 2: that they made, which are really terrible, especially after say, 43 00:02:49,800 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: sixty years, but a couple of them, like there was 44 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: like a bottle of whiskey that I've got to say, 45 00:02:57,040 --> 00:03:01,679 Speaker 2: was the nicest thing I think I've ever tasted, all 46 00:03:01,680 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: on opened, all on open. My Dad's out of the 47 00:03:03,639 --> 00:03:08,280 Speaker 2: family doesn't really drink that much. But among these, I 48 00:03:08,360 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 2: bring it up because there was a bottle, a blue 49 00:03:11,280 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 2: currosol in like the orange shaped, like the flat orange 50 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:21,560 Speaker 2: shaped bottle, so impossibly blue and so very slightly more 51 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:27,880 Speaker 2: nineteen sixties ish than even the bottles available today. Wow. Yeah, 52 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: I regret to say that I did open it, And 53 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:33,360 Speaker 2: I regret to say that because it tasted awful and 54 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 2: it was so pretty in the bottle that I'm kind 55 00:03:36,400 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: of like that. It was nicer as a prop yeah, 56 00:03:41,920 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 2: as a piece of decor in my home, because then 57 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:51,440 Speaker 2: I just dumped it, you know, but yeah, oh less 58 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: alas a lac. I believe I have photographs of it. 59 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 2: Maybe I'll update our Instagram for the first time in 60 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:00,800 Speaker 2: over two years. 61 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: Today could be the day nobody knows. 62 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: Nobody knows, not even us, mystery to us. 63 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,840 Speaker 1: All that's quite a fine. 64 00:04:11,320 --> 00:04:15,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I could see it working well as if 65 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 3: you've got a light behind it as a decoration. 66 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, the ones they still sell are still outrageous 67 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 2: in color, you know. 68 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 3: Oh yes, but still it would have felt mm hmmmm. Well, listeners, 69 00:04:31,960 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 3: let us know if you've ever made a discovery like that. Oh, 70 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: you can see our gin episode I would say, yeah, 71 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 3: kind of similar process. Yeah, other episodes that involved distilling oranges. 72 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: Sure, I don't know what an episode that was. 73 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 2: Other licore kind of things. 74 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, well, I guess that does bring us to 75 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: our question. Curusala cores. 76 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: What are they? 77 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: Well? Curseliicors sometimes just called cursow are a category of 78 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 2: orange licors, which means in this case that they are 79 00:05:15,400 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 2: a distilled alcohol, sweetened and flavored traditionally with orange peel 80 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 2: and other spices. They can be made in different colors, 81 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 2: though the typical ones are either clear or golden, you know, 82 00:05:27,160 --> 00:05:32,080 Speaker 2: like kind of orange or this like bright ocean blue 83 00:05:32,880 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 2: at varying levels of ocean depth, I suppose, depending on 84 00:05:36,800 --> 00:05:39,839 Speaker 2: the brand. They can come in other colors too, like 85 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 2: deep green or bright red, though that's more historical than 86 00:05:43,040 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 2: current anyway. They tend to be bittersweet and citrusy, and 87 00:05:47,279 --> 00:05:50,799 Speaker 2: can run a little bit syrupy depending. The blue ones 88 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 2: are so blue that they will blueify any drink you 89 00:05:54,200 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: make with them. Cursow is typically served in cocktails as 90 00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 2: like a non main ingredient. Yes, the blue is an 91 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:05,279 Speaker 2: artificial color. Blue does not occur that often in nature 92 00:06:05,360 --> 00:06:08,159 Speaker 2: and tends to be unstable when it does so, like 93 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 2: fine for something that you're making in your own home, 94 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 2: probably not good for putting. 95 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: On a shelf. 96 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: The orange taste can come from actual orange peels in 97 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:21,679 Speaker 2: the distillation process or from natural or artificial orange flavors 98 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 2: added later. Specifically in either case, like sour bitter oranges 99 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 2: that have these like fragrant floral kind of flavors are traditional. 100 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 2: Like many liqueurs that the gap that you're going to 101 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 2: find between the bottom shelf nine dollars bottle and like 102 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 2: a nice bottle that's sometimes somewhere over like three times 103 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 2: that price, the difference is going to be stark. But 104 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 2: it's a sweet, orangey liqueur with a little bit of 105 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 2: a bitter, powdery, spicy, floral kind of flavor to it. 106 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,239 Speaker 2: Like at its worst, you're kind of wondering how kool 107 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,720 Speaker 2: aid got into your drink. But at its best, it's 108 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:11,880 Speaker 2: like it's like catching a ray of sun through a 109 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 2: piece of stained glass that's shaped like an orange and 110 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 2: might be any number of colors. 111 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: Oh, I love that. 112 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 3: I don't think I've ever had like the good uh currousel, 113 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:31,120 Speaker 3: and I would like to try it. 114 00:07:31,640 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: Yeah. 115 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, I also appreciated how many people made the same 116 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 3: joke of like, it looks blue, but it tastes orange. 117 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 1: Uh huh yeah yeah, so yeah, it could come into any. 118 00:07:45,920 --> 00:07:52,680 Speaker 2: Color though, can Yeah why not? Yeah so uh Cursso 119 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: the liqueur is named for the island country Curusow, which 120 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,000 Speaker 2: is off the north coast of South And in the Caribbean. 121 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 2: It's near Aruba, like northwest of Caracas. They have there 122 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 2: the subspecies of bitter orange called the Lauraja orange, which 123 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 2: is a small, sort of lumpy, very round orange, kind 124 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,800 Speaker 2: of the size of more like a lemon or a lime. Traditionally, 125 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:20,600 Speaker 2: when the fruits are mature but still green, they're harvested 126 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: and peeled. The peels are then sun dried, and then 127 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: they will be steamed or steeped into a neutral liqure 128 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: derived from sugar cane along with other spices, maybe some 129 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: vanilla or clove, and the resulting flavored liquor is sweetened 130 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,800 Speaker 2: and bottled, maybe with color added. But that is how 131 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 2: cursow from Currosow is made. If it is made elsewhere, 132 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,720 Speaker 2: the process may vary. Producers are understandably cagey about their 133 00:08:51,880 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 2: ingredients and processes. But yeah, it can be used in 134 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 2: cocktails or can be consumed by itself in small glasses. 135 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,200 Speaker 2: Is like a parrotee for digestive perhaps the cup of coffee. 136 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: Whoa, what about the nutrition? 137 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 2: Uh A? Drink responsibly. Also, we have been avoiding doing 138 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 2: an episode about food dyes because it's complicated. I mean, 139 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:23,560 Speaker 2: it's not that complicated, okay, So like very basically the 140 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: blue used to color blue crosol is an artificial color 141 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:32,320 Speaker 2: derived in labs from petroleum products. That doesn't mean it's 142 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 2: terribly scary, like it's probably just fine. Most of it 143 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 2: just passes right on through you. Like of all the 144 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 2: things that might be giving you cancer right now, don't 145 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:48,840 Speaker 2: worry about the food dye, Like worry about the alcohol 146 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: before you worry about the food dye. You know, wear sunscreen, 147 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,199 Speaker 2: eat a vegetable. 148 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah. 149 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: I think the issue with food dye is too that 150 00:10:02,160 --> 00:10:04,640 Speaker 3: we're going to have to tackle is the history of 151 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 3: this specific food dye. It could be in a whole episode, 152 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: shorter episode, I think, but it could be a whole 153 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:11,560 Speaker 3: episode on its own. 154 00:10:11,559 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: And I think that that's true for most of them, 155 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 2: probably because you know, they are all these proprietary products 156 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,200 Speaker 2: that were produced in labs and have these kind of 157 00:10:19,240 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 2: fascinating origin stories behind them. But yeah, don't worry about it. 158 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: Drink responsibly, yes, yes, that's yes. 159 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 3: Well, speaking of I guess we've got kind of a 160 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:37,079 Speaker 3: number slash friendly warning. 161 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:42,720 Speaker 2: Sure, yes, speaking of drinking responsibly, LA course like curso 162 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:48,640 Speaker 2: can seriously range in percentage of alcohol by volume. Historically 163 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:52,439 Speaker 2: they tended to be pretty high, so especially some more 164 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: traditional recipes or like boutique brands might really surprise you 165 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,560 Speaker 2: with like a thirty percent plus ABV, but less expensive 166 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: ones are usually lower. But yeah, read your labels. That 167 00:11:05,760 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 2: also helps for cocktail making because you don't want to 168 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: totally overpower different flavors. 169 00:11:12,200 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 3: Oh no, that would be terrible. Yeah, that would be 170 00:11:14,400 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: terrible in several ways. Yeah, another fun savor thing, savor motto. 171 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: We could have read read your labels? 172 00:11:24,200 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: Uh huh yep, yeah, I recommend it. 173 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 3: Yes, I do too, Even though it might it might 174 00:11:31,360 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 3: make you sad, it's better to know. 175 00:11:33,520 --> 00:11:37,160 Speaker 2: I I do think it's better. No, personally, yeah, I. 176 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,120 Speaker 1: Think so too. Well, speaking of we do have quite 177 00:11:42,160 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 1: a history for you. 178 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 2: We do, and we are going to get into that 179 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,520 Speaker 2: as soon as we get back from a quick break 180 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 2: forward from our sponsors. And we're back, thank you, sponsor, Yes, 181 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 2: thank you. 182 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:07,120 Speaker 1: Okay. So, as always with these, the history of Cursow 183 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: is hard to get a handle on, and certainly some 184 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: of it has been lost to history in one way 185 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 1: or another. 186 00:12:14,480 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: It's very complicated. But when the Spanish arrived on the 187 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 3: tropical Caribbean island of Currossow in fourteen ninety nine, they 188 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 3: immediately started colonizing it, including enslaving the indigenous people. They 189 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: also started trying to plant crops that they wanted to 190 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,640 Speaker 3: grow on the island. 191 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, lots of it didn't go super well. They did 192 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: get some cattle and goats going, but I think most 193 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: of the crops kind of sort of failed. 194 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:48,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then the Dutch invaded Currosow in sixteen thirty four. 195 00:12:49,520 --> 00:12:52,560 Speaker 3: The Dutch West India Company defeated Spain and took control 196 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 3: of the island, and they turned it into a major 197 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,840 Speaker 3: hub for the trade of enslaved peoples. One of the 198 00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: things the Spanish had tried to cultivate or oranges, but 199 00:13:03,960 --> 00:13:07,760 Speaker 3: the conditions weren't right. Records indicate that the Spanish had 200 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 3: transported the seeds of Valencia or possibly Seville oranges, depending 201 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:15,679 Speaker 3: on the source, to the island in fifteen twenty seven. 202 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 3: But they just never really took hold. 203 00:13:19,160 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 2: Yeah. However, the Lajara oranges on the island are thought 204 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 2: to be wild descendants of these failed Spanish oranges. The 205 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 2: thing is, like, oranges don't grow true from seed. They're 206 00:13:32,800 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 2: not picky pollinators. They'll accept pollen from any citrus fruit 207 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:38,320 Speaker 2: being grown in the area, which means that when the 208 00:13:38,360 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 2: Spanish saved the seeds from oranges that they liked in 209 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 2: Europe and planted them and curs out the fruit from 210 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 2: the eventually resulting tree might have been closer to a 211 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,320 Speaker 2: lemon or a lime or a grapefruit, or it might 212 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: have been a total mess. Like to get consistent citrus crops, 213 00:13:54,960 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: farmers graft pieces of successfully fruiting branches onto existing citrus 214 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 2: tree trunks or roots. So anyway, Yeah, So, the theory 215 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,559 Speaker 2: is that the citrus seeds that the Spanish plant had 216 00:14:07,559 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 2: failed to bear like juicy, sweet fruits, but the laureja 217 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 2: did turn out to have other desirable qualities. 218 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: Yes, the fruit themselves were too bitter to eat, but 219 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: people found that the peel had this lovely smell when 220 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 3: broken or agitated. 221 00:14:25,840 --> 00:14:27,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, those good orange oils. 222 00:14:27,160 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, And someone decided to use the oil from 223 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:34,200 Speaker 3: the peel and distillation, something people had likely been doing 224 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 3: in their own homes. So, as per usual, the case 225 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 3: of who invented Curseow is really murky. 226 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I couldn't find a really good source, but I 227 00:14:47,840 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 2: did read in a couple places, and it kind of 228 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,280 Speaker 2: makes sense that, like, faced with these decidedly unfruity fruits, 229 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: the people who lived there were like just trying to 230 00:14:56,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: come up with something to do with them, Like even 231 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 2: the goats wouldn't eat them, and they were like, so goats, 232 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:05,280 Speaker 2: goats wouldn't need them. 233 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: Oh no, I know. 234 00:15:08,640 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 2: So, so the peals might have been incorporated into things 235 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 2: like medicine, and medicine was associated with liquor so. 236 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 3: Yes, which brings us to the story of one of 237 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:26,640 Speaker 3: the most well known brands, Senior and Company. All Right, 238 00:15:27,040 --> 00:15:31,200 Speaker 3: the Dutch ships that attacked the island Currosow were also 239 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 3: carrying several Jewish families. Several other contingents of Jewish people 240 00:15:35,240 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 3: arrived over the years, largely fueled by promises of religious 241 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 3: freedom and economic opportunity. One such family was the Seniors. 242 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 3: They had escaped Spanish persecution and eventually ended up in curzol. 243 00:15:48,520 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 3: After a couple of generations had passed, in eighteen ninety six, 244 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 3: Edgar Senior partnered with him Mendez Schumasero to establish Senior 245 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 3: and Company. They used the peals of the raha or 246 00:16:00,360 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: to distill a liquor that boasted a strong orange flavor. 247 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 3: At first, they operated out of Boutika Excelsior, a drugstore 248 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:14,200 Speaker 3: where Chumaso produced an at partief or digestive based on 249 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 3: his father's recipe. They called it Senior's Curse Out, which, 250 00:16:18,040 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 3: by the way, I had a really funny misunderstanding where 251 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:23,480 Speaker 3: I thought they called it seniors Curse Out because his 252 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:29,920 Speaker 3: dad was a senior. No, because of Edgar Senior's name. Anyway, Uh, 253 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:33,880 Speaker 3: they called it. They called it Senior's curis Altnic, but 254 00:16:34,040 --> 00:16:38,120 Speaker 3: changed the name to Senior's Cursel Liquoru. Kumisarro's widow kept 255 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:40,600 Speaker 3: making small batches of the stuff after his death in 256 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 3: nineteen hundred, but it didn't really go commercial until nineteen 257 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 3: forty five, when like a bunch of companies and people 258 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 3: came together and it was incorporated and the company that 259 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,440 Speaker 3: was form purchased the recipe from the widow and they 260 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 3: set up shop in a plantation house nineteen forty six, 261 00:17:01,400 --> 00:17:06,080 Speaker 3: which I understand you can still visit, listeners, please let 262 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:08,360 Speaker 3: us know, yeah if you've ever been and done the tour, 263 00:17:10,040 --> 00:17:13,640 Speaker 3: because yeah, they're still around and as a currosow produced 264 00:17:13,680 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 3: in Currosou, the US has given them some allowances around 265 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 3: the usage affords like authentic. On their labels, they call 266 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 3: their product the genuine Currosow, the Core, so you've got them. 267 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:32,680 Speaker 3: But we also have to mention the brand Bulls. And 268 00:17:32,720 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 3: here's a very abbreviated history as it pertains to Curasou 269 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,399 Speaker 3: and this company. In fifteen seventy five, the Bolsiest family 270 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 3: opened a distillery in Amsterdam or on the outskirts of 271 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 3: it near water, since distilling in the city center was 272 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: prohibited at the time. Historians think they also fled Spanish 273 00:17:51,119 --> 00:17:54,959 Speaker 3: religious persecution and settled in Amsterdam, where they shortened their 274 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:58,400 Speaker 3: name to Bulls so it sounded more Dutch. There's some 275 00:17:58,560 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 3: argument about when they actually started distilling, but it was 276 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 3: round about fifteen seventy five or a. 277 00:18:03,200 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: Few decades later. 278 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 3: Bowls frequently worked with the Dutch East India Trading Company 279 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 3: and was one of their shareholders, and this meant that 280 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,360 Speaker 3: they got access to a lot of the urban spices 281 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:17,920 Speaker 3: the company sent to Amsterdam from all around the world. 282 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: Bowls in turn supplied them with their spirits, which the 283 00:18:22,760 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 3: company drank themselves but also distributed around the world. There 284 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: isn't concrete evidence of when Bulls started making curse ow 285 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: yep nope, which is also like their website was a 286 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 3: little wonky for me to navigate, and that could be 287 00:18:42,640 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 3: because I'm in the US. But according to them, cursow 288 00:18:47,119 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 3: made its way to Europe soon after it was being 289 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,720 Speaker 3: made on the island, and they had access to these 290 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 3: orange feels and the oil already from trade, so presumably 291 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:03,320 Speaker 3: the early nineteen hundreds. Some sources put it way earlier, though, 292 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: but not that many that I could find, But some 293 00:19:06,320 --> 00:19:06,800 Speaker 3: some do. 294 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 295 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I don't think any true. I don't think 296 00:19:11,119 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 2: anybody does. If anybody does, I. 297 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Love to hear about it. 298 00:19:15,880 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, which does bring us to blue curse ow okay, okay, 299 00:19:23,520 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 3: al so difficult to pin down. Many do give credit 300 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,360 Speaker 3: to the Dutch company Bowls with coming up with what 301 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: they called Cream of the Sky and nineteen twelve as 302 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:37,920 Speaker 3: a gimmick to make prettier cocktails by dying curs out Blue. 303 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: According to the company, they've been making it since the 304 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:46,440 Speaker 3: nineteen twenties. However, fun they can't prove either of these 305 00:19:46,480 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 3: things really. The others say it was instead invented by 306 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 3: Senior Cursou, though they say they didn't start producing it 307 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: until the nineteen sixties. By the nineteen twenties, so mentions 308 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 3: of not only blue Currosow, but cursews of many colors 309 00:20:05,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: started popping up, though Blue seems to have always been 310 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:14,439 Speaker 3: the most popular front runner. Whatever company first started producing it, 311 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 3: it was almost certainly a marketing stunt, and at first 312 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 3: its usage was largely relegated to beachside vacation cocktails. And 313 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 3: in fact, that's why some people think the blue took 314 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,480 Speaker 3: off is because it reminded people of the blue sky 315 00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:32,199 Speaker 3: and the blue yeah shreluewater. At the same time, the 316 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 3: US was seeing a rise in tiki culture and restaurants 317 00:20:34,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: with establishments like Trader Vicks, and a lot of these 318 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 3: places offered cocktails that were going for that beachy vibe, 319 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 3: and plenty of them used blue Currosow. The product got 320 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: another booze, perhaps in the nineteen sixties, with the release 321 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 3: of the Elvis Presley movie Blue Hawaii because the blue 322 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: Hawaiian cocktail gets its bright blue coloring flom blue currosow. 323 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 3: But then along came the overly sweet cocktail chins of 324 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:07,360 Speaker 3: the seventies and eighties, which we've talked about a lot. 325 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: Blue cursow is no. 326 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: Longer confined to these vacation cocktails and spaces, but it 327 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: was added into all kinds of things. But again, soon 328 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:22,199 Speaker 3: enough it had overstayed its welcome. As the nineties came 329 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,439 Speaker 3: along and the craft cocktail movement got underway and blue 330 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:30,960 Speaker 3: currosow was banished back to vacation s spaces, it became 331 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 3: somewhat derided, though there are there have been a handful 332 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 3: of attempts to make a more natural blue cursow. But 333 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 3: like you said, Lauren, usually the problem is you have 334 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,240 Speaker 3: to drink it pretty quickly. 335 00:21:42,359 --> 00:21:45,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, you can't really bottle and sell it for 336 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 2: use a few months from now. It's kind of a 337 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,800 Speaker 2: yeah yep. 338 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:56,159 Speaker 3: These days, the blue dyeing question is largely Brilliant Blue FCF, 339 00:21:57,440 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 3: which yes, I would love to do a whole episode. 340 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:04,080 Speaker 3: Maybe I'm maybe I'll kick myself later when the episode comes. Yeah, 341 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,360 Speaker 3: Brilliant blue FC. 342 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: What a name. 343 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: And to celebrate four hundred and fifty years of operation. 344 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,240 Speaker 3: On April fifteenth, twenty twenty five, Bowls unveiled Bowls Blue 345 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,919 Speaker 3: fifteen seventy five, a premium blue curse out and it 346 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 3: was a whole thing. It had a lot of fanfare, 347 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 3: a lot of press releases. I couldn't find it in 348 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:30,719 Speaker 3: the US. I think I could still find it in 349 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,919 Speaker 3: the UK for sale. 350 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:38,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, Bowls in general, I'm oh man, I'm saying this 351 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:40,960 Speaker 2: on the fly. I feel like whenever I see it 352 00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,719 Speaker 2: in the United States, it is one of those extreme 353 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 2: bottom shelf kind of options. I don't think they import 354 00:22:48,760 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 2: or export the I don't think they bring their nice 355 00:22:50,720 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 2: stuff here. But I'm not totally I haven't really looked 356 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:58,720 Speaker 2: into it. So here we are. 357 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, another question to follow up on later, perhaps, yes, 358 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 3: but that's that's about the end of our history. Outline listeners. 359 00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: If you have been on tours of any of these places. 360 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,119 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. 361 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: If you have any any recipes or recommendations. 362 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:25,879 Speaker 2: Uh huh, any requests to in fact follow up on 363 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 2: any of these potential wrab holes. 364 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 3: Yes, please let us know. But I think that's what 365 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 3: we have to say about cursow from now it is. 366 00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:36,800 Speaker 2: We do already have some listener mail for you, though, 367 00:23:36,840 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 2: and we are going to get into that as soon 368 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,080 Speaker 2: as we get back from one more quick break for 369 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 2: a word from our sponsors, and we're back. Thank you sponsor, Yes, 370 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 2: thank you. 371 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:55,680 Speaker 1: And we're back with the listener. 372 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 2: May I speche Oh yeah, I got confused at the 373 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 2: end there. I wasn't sure where you were going. But 374 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 2: so that the wind in my head. Oh okay, okay, 375 00:24:13,880 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 2: that's what I was doing. Could be Yeah, that's it is, 376 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 2: waving in the wind. I think so or something. See 377 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 2: what super producer. 378 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,360 Speaker 1: And yeah, well weigh in it. 379 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, he is very kind to us, y'all. When we 380 00:24:30,359 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 2: really fail, when we exter fail to harmonize, that's when 381 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:34,199 Speaker 2: he steps in. 382 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: Yes, he's ready, and he's a pro he is. We're 383 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:44,800 Speaker 1: grateful for him every day. Absolutely. Oh my goodness. Yes, 384 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: all right. 385 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,280 Speaker 3: Uh, Joe wrote you asked for pasta salad recipes, So 386 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 3: here's my mom's recipe. Cold sweet mayo based pasta salad 387 00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 3: is popular in the Philippines around Christmas, though it can 388 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:59,200 Speaker 3: pop up at. 389 00:24:59,080 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: Parties year round. 390 00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 3: It probably came to the Philippines after World War two 391 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 3: and was quickly adapted to Filipino taste. I'll be honest, 392 00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 3: it's not my favorite. If I want something cold and 393 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,679 Speaker 3: sweet at a party, I'll go for dessert rather than 394 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 3: a pasta salad. However, my mom is fond of it 395 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 3: and usually takes some home and makes her own when 396 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,080 Speaker 3: she's craving it. As usual, no measurements are used, so 397 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 3: just add ingredients to your taste. She uses cooked elbow macaroni, 398 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:31,120 Speaker 3: dice carrots, diced apples, diced cheddar cheese, and enough mayo 399 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 3: just to coat everything. Season with salt, pepper and a 400 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: dash of sugar. If you want to add meat, shred 401 00:25:37,160 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 3: or cubes some chicken breast and add sweet pickle relish 402 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:41,160 Speaker 3: in joy. 403 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 2: Hmm oh that is fascinating. 404 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: I okay, As you probably know, dear listener, who I 405 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: know has been with us for a while, Uh huh, 406 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,919 Speaker 3: A little difficult for me. 407 00:25:56,119 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 2: Annie is anti mayo. Yeah yeah, but I do you 408 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: like hearing about I'm just so interested in kind of 409 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 2: regional global varieties of pasta. 410 00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 3: Salad, and I bet if you liked I can see 411 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 3: it working for a non mao. 412 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 1: For someone who likes mayo, I can see it working. 413 00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: Yeah yes, yeah, no, me too. Like all of those 414 00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:26,040 Speaker 2: things are things that go well together in different applications. 415 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,480 Speaker 2: I had never thought of putting them together in a 416 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,399 Speaker 2: pasta salad. 417 00:26:31,080 --> 00:26:31,439 Speaker 1: Yeah. 418 00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,879 Speaker 2: I think it's the sweet pickle relish that's making it 419 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:39,840 Speaker 2: makes sense to me. Oh interesting as like a binding concept? Oh, 420 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: like a flavor, like a flavor, not not like a 421 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: physical binding concept, but a flavor binding concept. No interesting. 422 00:26:50,480 --> 00:26:54,760 Speaker 3: Oh I please listeners keep these messages coming because I 423 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:59,280 Speaker 3: love this. That is so fascinating And I do feel 424 00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 3: as someone who also has a mom who likes things 425 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 3: that like no one else likes, that's for her, kind 426 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: of make it for herself until until the pasta came in. 427 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 3: This did remind me of our Ambrosia episode. Oh absolutely, Asia, 428 00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 3: get up to some stuff like I can define it. 429 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: We struggled to in that episode. 430 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 2: I'm still a little bit terrified of that episode. 431 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,919 Speaker 1: I think about it nice. I still don't know the 432 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:34,040 Speaker 1: answer to what ambrosia is. Really. 433 00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 2: No, it's unanswerable. 434 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: That's okay. 435 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:43,440 Speaker 2: It's okay to have ineffable things out there, that's all right. Yeah, 436 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 2: Hailey wrote, I can't believe I finally have a reason 437 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 2: to tell you about my cookies. At the end of 438 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 2: the Klamada episode, you guys were pining for cammbert cookies. 439 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 2: I actually make Charcoteri style cookies. I haven't done a 440 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,160 Speaker 2: camm beer flavor yet, but it has been bumped up 441 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 2: to next on my list. I started baking in twenty 442 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 2: eighteen when I wanted more fun cookies, not the same old, 443 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 2: boring chocolate chip. My first weird flavor was white chocolate 444 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 2: chip lavender, and it was a hit with my family. 445 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 2: After years of testing, tasting, and experimenting, I finally launched 446 00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 2: my own micro bakery last October. Some of my most 447 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: popular normal flavors include rosemary, chocolate chip, oatmeal, apple pie, 448 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:28,199 Speaker 2: banana cream pie, and salted butterscotch. But I wanted to 449 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:32,199 Speaker 2: go even weirder. A few months ago, I started a 450 00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 2: series of weird cookie recipes to bump up my views 451 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 2: on social media. My first flavor was blue cheese with 452 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,720 Speaker 2: pistachios and dried cranberries. They were green tinted and definitely funky, 453 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,640 Speaker 2: but something about the sweet and salty combo really worked. 454 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 2: People on social media were borderline insalted by my audacity, 455 00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:53,120 Speaker 2: but nearly everyone that has been brave enough to try 456 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 2: one has been obsessed. I've also done fig feta and 457 00:28:56,560 --> 00:29:01,480 Speaker 2: lemon short bread cookies, seaweed sesame, chocolate chip cookie, chocolate everything, 458 00:29:01,520 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: bagel season in cookies, and more. I'm testing both siracha 459 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 2: and pop Rocks cookies today. The most popular with my 460 00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 2: friends and family has been spicy Gocha young caramel cookies, 461 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 2: and the worst by far has been peanut butter ketchup cookies. 462 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 2: I've attached a couple photos of the blue cheese, feta 463 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 2: and Gocha gen cookies, and my baking slash taste test 464 00:29:24,280 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: videos can be seen on TikTok, Instagram, and Facebook at 465 00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,320 Speaker 2: Baked by ky Colectic. If you guys are ever in Oregon, 466 00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,880 Speaker 2: I'd love to share my weird cookies with you, and 467 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 2: I'll be testing a camm bear cookie in your honor, 468 00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 2: and that's Baked by ky Colectic like eclectic but chi 469 00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 2: clectic kai C L E C T I C. Yeah, 470 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:54,800 Speaker 2: all of this is so cool. Congratulations on launching your 471 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 2: micro bakery. 472 00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:02,479 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, I I mean the cookies look amazing the 473 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:10,280 Speaker 3: pictures you sent they look so cute. But I really 474 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 3: really uh I love this. I love that you're just like, 475 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 3: you know what, let's try this flavor in this flavor 476 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 3: and see what happens. I can see spicy goju jung 477 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 3: caramel cookies. 478 00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:27,600 Speaker 2: Oh no, I want that, I want that. I want 479 00:30:27,640 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 2: all of these immediately. Actually, maybe not the peanut butter 480 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: ketchup ones. 481 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: That's so funny because it's such an American. 482 00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 3: Like like a clashing of two really popular Americans. 483 00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:41,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah that, I'm just like. 484 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 1: Whoof yeah yeah yeah, yeah yeah yeah. 485 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 3: But the rest of these they sound they sound amazing. 486 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 3: I'm loving kind of your just mad scientists almost like yeah, 487 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 3: I'm sure you have a lot more thought than you're 488 00:30:57,800 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 3: explaining to us into it, but it sounds very like, 489 00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:02,120 Speaker 3: let's just try these together. 490 00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,320 Speaker 2: No, I know, I think that all of this makes 491 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880 Speaker 2: perfect sense, to be honest, Like, there wasn't a single 492 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 2: aside from the peanut butter ketchup to be on that one. 493 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,560 Speaker 1: Really, You're like, why haven't we been eating these everything else? 494 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? I was like, oh, of course, clearly. Sorry you 495 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,280 Speaker 2: were going to say. 496 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 3: Oh, I was just gonna say, I hope the canon 497 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 3: bear one please report back. 498 00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 2: Oh absolutely, yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah ah cool? Oh man, 499 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 2: I just want weird cookies okay. 500 00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: Forever in Oregon, and we'll let you know. Don't offer 501 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 1: us cookies. We will show up. 502 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:44,200 Speaker 2: It's true, we will. 503 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: Yes, Yes, we'll keep us updated. 504 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, good luck, have fun. 505 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,400 Speaker 1: Yes and uh. 506 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: Other listeners, whatever projects you're working on, we always love 507 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,680 Speaker 3: to hear what you're working on. Thanks to both of 508 00:31:58,720 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 3: these listeners for writing in. If you would like to 509 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,840 Speaker 3: contact us, you can. You can email us at hello 510 00:32:03,880 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: at savorpod dot com. 511 00:32:05,200 --> 00:32:07,960 Speaker 2: We're also on social media. You can find us on 512 00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 2: Instagram and Blue Sky. 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