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Speaker 1: With Alexia Napola and Marisa Patton, an iHeartRadio podcast. Welcome guys,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of I Put and with

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Speaker 1: Me Today. Co hosting is a very special friend, Dolores Catanya.

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. I always wanted to say, did I say?

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Speaker 1: You said it perfectly.

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Speaker 2: You want to know why, because I say it all

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Speaker 2: the time when I watch you. I am actually not

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Speaker 2: only a friend, but I have always been a fan.

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Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I feel the same way about you.

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Speaker 1: And that's actually how we met. I think we met

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Speaker 1: personally because we were dming and we would talk all

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Speaker 1: the time. But when we met in person, was that

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Speaker 1: Teresa and Louis wedding. Yes, and we had just come up.

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Speaker 1: We had just finished our season four. And by the way,

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Speaker 1: there were a lot of the girls from Jersey were

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Speaker 1: at Teresa's wedding, except for obviously, you know, Melissa and Joey,

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Speaker 1: but all the girls were there, and all of you

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Speaker 1: were so warm and affectionate and friendly. I had such

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Speaker 1: a beautiful time. But of course I grow up like

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Speaker 1: towards you, because it's like we liked each other. And

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Speaker 1: your son Frankie was the one that came up to

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Speaker 1: me and he's lovely, and I was like so flattered.

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Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, where's your mom. He's like, Oh,

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Speaker 1: my mom's dying to see you. I'm dying to see her.

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Speaker 1: And so we just had connected right there, and then

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Speaker 1: Frank was there, and Frank hit it off with Todd,

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Speaker 1: and you know the rest is history. You know, every

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Speaker 1: time we see each other, either in New York or

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Speaker 1: Bravo Con. The last time we saw each other in Vegas,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was really it was really nice.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't get enough of you, to be honest,

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Speaker 2: I just don't. I wish that. You know, there's like

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Speaker 2: a lot of times they asked me where else would

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Speaker 2: you film? And I say, I am a Jersey girl

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Speaker 2: at heart. But what you don't know is I have

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Speaker 2: I had a place in Florida for like fifteen years.

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Speaker 2: Frank and I had a place at the Pinnacle.

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Speaker 1: Oh nice sunny aisles.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and you know our dream was always my dream

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Speaker 2: to be a snowbird. And I might get there yet, Alexias.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I want to hear. Yeah. Miami. You know, I

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Speaker 1: feel like Miami is so connected with New York and

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Speaker 1: New Jersey.

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Speaker 2: Every day here I'm not sharing you with New York.

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Speaker 1: Okay, I'll take that. I actually was in Boca Raton

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Speaker 1: this weekend. I mean these few days, actually into the

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Speaker 1: weekend with Frankie, and there were so many people there

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Speaker 1: from Jersey. I felt like everybody from Jersey Long Island,

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Speaker 1: like all those places there, everybody moved here to Boca,

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Speaker 1: which is actually pretty nice too.

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Speaker 2: My cousin Tanya moved to Boka. I missed her so much.

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Speaker 2: How is my Frankie. We love Frankie.

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Speaker 1: We are thank you, thank you. He's doing great. He's

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Speaker 1: doing really really well. So how do your family?

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Speaker 2: Thank you? Very good my Frankie. Tomorrow we're going to

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Speaker 2: Portugal with his girlfriend's family. He's in a very serious relationship.

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Speaker 2: I love her.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's very private about his life, so I don't

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Speaker 1: know much about his life, and I love that he

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Speaker 1: keeps his personal life private, unlike us. Yeah, he did

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Speaker 1: the opposite we did, which is probably smart.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but he's also in a job that he is

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Speaker 2: very temperamental, Like, he's very careful with his job. Frankie

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Speaker 2: works at least like ninety hours a week, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not even exaggerating. I saw him on the beach. He

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Speaker 2: bought a chair with a hole in it and he

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Speaker 2: has his computer underneath, and he puts his face through

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Speaker 2: and he's on the beach with his This is on

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Speaker 2: a Sunday, and he's a lovely girlfriend who puts up

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Speaker 2: with that. But you know, Alexi, he'll give a good

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Speaker 2: life to somebody. He's raised to be very respectful to women,

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Speaker 2: and so he's very sweet, says his rosaries all the time.

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Speaker 2: He's very well.

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Speaker 1: I fell in love with him. I mean not only

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Speaker 1: because he's so cute, Like he's as beautiful in the

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Speaker 1: inside as in the outside, and he projects that. So

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Speaker 1: I'm very happy for him. His girlfriend's very lucky to

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Speaker 1: I'm sure he picked a good one.

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Speaker 2: She picked a good one. So we're having a family bag,

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Speaker 2: his parents and me and Paul and her and Frankie.

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Speaker 2: We're all going to Portugal together tomorrow because that's where

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Speaker 2: her family's from. So I'm very excited about that. I

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Speaker 2: spend a lot more time with Frankie and Gabby. I

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Speaker 2: just got back from Africa with South Africa, which was

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Speaker 2: a very different trip, Alexia, is it well, not the

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Speaker 2: one I did, but it was very nice. So I

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Speaker 2: was on the back of a pickup truck in the

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Speaker 2: middle of the jungle trying to save rhinos from being poached.

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Speaker 1: And we aw, is that your charity thing that you do?

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Speaker 2: No, this is a conservation, No it was this is something.

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Speaker 2: My daughter runs these trips and she has lovely friends.

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Speaker 2: She's found such beautiful people that she works over there,

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Speaker 2: and you know, sometimes they get a snare, you know,

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Speaker 2: the poachers. So here I am working with a wild

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Speaker 1: I'm so afraid of animals.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Alexia.

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Speaker 1: I think they're beautiful to look up, but I'm just

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Speaker 2: I had a lion staring in my face, wild lion,

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Speaker 2: Oh my god. And my daughter and her friends were

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Speaker 2: like crying. They're like, this is so beautiful. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: let's get the got it here.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, I would have like feed in my pants.

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Speaker 1: I honestly, I don't think I could have done that

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Speaker 1: unless there was like guards, you know, with like I

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Speaker 1: I just can't do that. So I give you a

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Speaker 1: lot of credit. My friend because that's not the idea

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Speaker 1: I had of South Africa going on an African safari.

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Speaker 1: I need like a glammed one and like protection.

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Speaker 2: And I was unrecognizable when I came home. But it

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Speaker 2: was so funny. My skin was really good, I guess

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Speaker 2: from all the dirt hitting me in the face and

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Speaker 2: it was.

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Speaker 1: Oh but fun. I'm happy you got to do that

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Speaker 1: with your daughter, Alexia.

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Speaker 2: And my mom never came to my things growing up

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Speaker 2: because I didn't have things. I just worked right and

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Speaker 2: my softball game that just passed my mom came to

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Speaker 2: last year for the first time. Like, I don't think

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Speaker 2: my parents actually understand what I do for a living.

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Speaker 2: Totally help me, right, So I.

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Speaker 1: Don't think we understand ourselves.

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Speaker 2: No, we do, but you know what, I don't think

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Speaker 2: at all we understand that half the time, so it's

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Speaker 2: not understandable. So anyway, when my daughter asked me to go,

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Speaker 2: I went because I wanted her to know that I'm

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Speaker 2: interested in what she does, and I am. She I'm

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Speaker 2: very proud of her.

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Speaker 1: I love that. I love that. But like you, you know,

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Speaker 1: I feel like we learned from our parents, and you know,

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Speaker 1: I've also been a very involved mom because of that,

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Speaker 1: because I never had you know, not that I didn't

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Speaker 1: Like they didn't attend the games, Like I was always

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Speaker 1: involved in everything, but they were always very busy working

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Speaker 1: so that I can have like a good life. Like

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Speaker 1: that's what they would say, Well, you know why I'm

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Speaker 1: not there because you know, we're working so we can

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Speaker 1: provide for you. Yeah, you know, our children are fortunate

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Speaker 1: that we can give them both.

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Speaker 2: One hundred percent. And I love that. And now they're

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Speaker 2: grown up, so I'm kind of like finding you know,

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Speaker 2: what's next. But they still need you. They always need you,

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Speaker 2: but the way they used to it's not so much

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Speaker 2: hands on. It's more of a mental thing now, you know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and they need to know, like you know, and

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Speaker 1: I love that, you know that they need any help

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Speaker 1: or they want anybody's advice, they have a question or

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Speaker 1: anything that they need that on like their first phone call.

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Speaker 1: They value like our opinion and how we feel about things.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, Alexia, like you, we've been through a

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Speaker 2: lot as women. We've been through some things that a

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Speaker 2: lot of people probably wouldn't survive a day. We've been

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Speaker 2: through more than once and seen a lot, lived a lot,

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Speaker 2: so we can give that advice through experience. And that's

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Speaker 2: one of the things I noticed in the younger girls

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Speaker 2: that follow us is they want to know what to do.

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Speaker 2: They look up to us right for advice and things relationships, friendships, men,

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Speaker 2: you know, being you know, where do I go, what

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Speaker 1: Things like that, which is smart because that's what you want.

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Speaker 1: You want women that inspire you, that have lived a life,

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Speaker 1: that have had lessons and are filled with wisdom, and

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Speaker 1: we're like educating them, you know in a way. They

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Speaker 1: want to know how we got from like point A

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Speaker 1: it's actually very flattering, and we even talked about that.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the fact that the audience for the

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Speaker 1: Housewives has become so much younger than we originally started

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Speaker 1: doing this. Where it used to be you know, women

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Speaker 1: our age or even older. Now today it's like you

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Speaker 1: get eighteen year olds that like come up to you

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Speaker 1: think you're like you know, and it's truly not that

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Speaker 1: they love the outside of us and what we look

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Speaker 1: like in our lifestyle. But they're like us as a woman,

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Speaker 1: you know, as a strong woman, as a person.

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Speaker 2: That's the strength, it's the strength look for. And you know,

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Speaker 2: Alexia and not everybody had a mom that they could

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Speaker 2: go to, right and a lot of these girls that

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Speaker 2: I speak to didn't have that. And my mom's very wise.

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Speaker 2: I mean, my mom's never even graduated from high school.

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Speaker 2: She left school at a very early age. And she's

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Speaker 2: never even been on a vacation. But she's that's your

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Speaker 2: next trip.

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Speaker 1: I want you to take your mom on a trip.

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Speaker 2: Shell Nope, She's like, I'm happy where I am. But

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Speaker 2: she's so smart, she's and she thought she was stupid

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Speaker 2: always and so dumb, but but she experienced. Also, I

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Speaker 2: think life it's not all about like the superficial things

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Speaker 2: to where any girl could figure that out herself.

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Speaker 1: Really.

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Speaker 2: But so yeah, like so we were saying, maybe are

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Speaker 2: you know the housewives have turned to some some younger,

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Speaker 2: but you can't have all younger and just that's my

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Speaker 2: I agree.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that. I think that there needs to

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Speaker 1: be all different age groups. And I also find it

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Speaker 1: maybe in her mid or late thirties, and then there's

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Speaker 1: like late fifties. I mean, twenty years is a big gap,

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Speaker 1: you know, and it is a big gap, and you know,

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Speaker 1: and just because of that, we have so many differences.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we can both maybe be moms because they

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Speaker 1: already have like small children, but they really haven't experienced

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Speaker 1: or gone through all the things that we've gone through.

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Speaker 2: And you know, some of them, they ever experienced some

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Speaker 2: of the things we've gone through.

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Speaker 1: Oh one hundred percent. And there are a lot of

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Speaker 1: women that are half my age that will never experience

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Speaker 1: put up experience, and you know what, I'm happy for them.

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Speaker 1: But I am who I am today because of my experiences,

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Speaker 1: She's Bingo bingo exactly. And by the way, you knew

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Speaker 1: we're not talking about Jalo. So when this happened now

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Speaker 1: and she's not here, I'm like, yes, I know, Dolores,

434
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,000
Speaker 1: my girls just gonna want to talk about this.

435
00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:38,760
Speaker 2: All over this, I was just like scrolling through reading

436
00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 2: the articles.

437
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:41,480
Speaker 1: I mean, he's done her dirty, let me tell you,

438
00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,480
Speaker 1: because I mean the fact that he was trying to

439
00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,160
Speaker 1: he was trying to create his narrative, and it turns

440
00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:49,440
Speaker 1: out that it's a false narrative because he was very

441
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:52,800
Speaker 1: much involved in the docuseries, which by the way, his

442
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 1: production company produced it, Artist Equity, and he knew about everything.

443
00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: He knew about the love Letter. So she was putting

444
00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:04,560
Speaker 1: about the whole talky series he participated, Yeah, he participated

445
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 1: in it.

446
00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,240
Speaker 2: Can I just make a statement like I could be wrong.

447
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,159
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that he's growing around. I'm not saying

448
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,119
Speaker 2: that I don't know what's going on. They could have

449
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,439
Speaker 2: fell out a lot. I don't know. But all I

450
00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:20,920
Speaker 2: can say is whenever my friends call me and all

451
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: of a sudden, they hate their husbands for things that

452
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:26,399
Speaker 2: the guy's been doing for like twenty years. Like I'm like,

453
00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,040
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, this bothers you so much that

454
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,879
Speaker 2: you want to get divorced. Oh and you're at the

455
00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:37,880
Speaker 2: gym three or four more days a week. Oh uh,

456
00:22:38,080 --> 00:22:39,520
Speaker 2: stop banging your trainer.

457
00:22:41,200 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 1: Exactly. And that's what I'm saying. I get it. I

458
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:46,679
Speaker 1: knew exactly where you were going because I think the

459
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:49,639
Speaker 1: same thing. And in this case, he just did it

460
00:22:49,680 --> 00:22:51,960
Speaker 1: really good to her, because in this case, he always

461
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,879
Speaker 1: thought that everybody was going to support him and she

462
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: was going to be the villain, and everybody was going

463
00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:00,320
Speaker 1: to say, you know, vn'sbury private and you know, he

464
00:23:00,320 --> 00:23:01,959
Speaker 1: wants to live his life with his kids, and he's

465
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,080
Speaker 1: very simple, and he was married to Jennifer Gardner like

466
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:07,840
Speaker 1: and now this yeah, and this woman like him to

467
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,760
Speaker 1: ruin his life, you know. And of course all the

468
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 1: women their haters, and they're all going to say the

469
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:14,879
Speaker 1: same thing. And then on top of it, this is

470
00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: her fourth marriage. So I was like, this poor woman,

471
00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: they're gonna say she's definitely the problem, which they have said.

472
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,679
Speaker 1: Now the narrative can do a little bit.

473
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 2: Oh, everybody's why are women turned tearing women down all

474
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,760
Speaker 2: the time?

475
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,720
Speaker 1: Thank you? Thank you? Like I was like, and that's yeah,

476
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: And that's what I would like to all these women

477
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: because they do the same thing.

478
00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 2: She's got it. She's inviscerated her her concerts are doing shit.

479
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:44,680
Speaker 2: She's been walking around like unhappy for so long. She's

480
00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 2: forgotten who she is.

481
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,119
Speaker 1: I feel like she has. I think that she was

482
00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:51,639
Speaker 1: trying to fix someth so much and being with a

483
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:55,760
Speaker 1: person like this, with erotic mood swings, with kis and lows.

484
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 1: One day's good, one day's bad. One day he's happy

485
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,199
Speaker 1: and he's to you, and another day he's you know,

486
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:06,840
Speaker 1: he's an asshole, and like, yeah, it's it's torture. It

487
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 1: is it's a mind He not like that.

488
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 2: It's a mind. Fuck. You're walking on eggshells all the time,

489
00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 2: and it drained you. And I feel like this relation

490
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,639
Speaker 2: had ship has taken its toll on her career.

491
00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: I think so, And why would he want to do

492
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,640
Speaker 1: that to her? I mean if and I really want

493
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,920
Speaker 1: to believe that there's so much love between them, because

494
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 1: you know, I've always said to myself, the only reason

495
00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,120
Speaker 1: why a lot of people make stupid decisions is because

496
00:24:32,160 --> 00:24:35,720
Speaker 1: of love, because you're so in love and yeah and

497
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: for real, and I really did think. I mean, they're

498
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,359
Speaker 1: both in love with the idea of love. So I

499
00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:43,199
Speaker 1: think that when they re killed the relationship, it had

500
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,080
Speaker 1: a lot to do with that because they were kind

501
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,439
Speaker 1: of both in a bad place. You know, she was

502
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 1: just breaking up with her fiance that she did on

503
00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 1: her supposedly or not. But yeah, yeah, that was not good.

504
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,119
Speaker 1: So she was kind of like an aloe. And I

505
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:59,520
Speaker 1: think that men like that come into your life at

506
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,399
Speaker 1: a time when you're low and you're vulnerable, and you know,

507
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: she always had that was kind of like the guy

508
00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,840
Speaker 1: that escaped twenty years ago. So now she has this,

509
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,399
Speaker 1: you know, opportunity again twenty years later to you know,

510
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,280
Speaker 1: be with the love of her life that she always

511
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 1: thought that was the love of her life. And they

512
00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 1: just rekindled and it was perfect to the point that

513
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: they don't even have a prenup. I mean, talk about insanity.

514
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:24,120
Speaker 1: I mean, two major stars like them, with the kind

515
00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 1: of money that they have, you just make stupid mistakes

516
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 1: when you're like in love like that.

517
00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,959
Speaker 2: I've never made a good decision when I was vulnerable.

518
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 2: It's weird because when your energy is like that, you

519
00:25:37,119 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 2: do not meet the right person and then you get

520
00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:40,879
Speaker 2: in the wrong hands.

521
00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 1: I agree, and that's what she needs to learn, because

522
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: I feel like she's really not the problem in the

523
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: sense that just because she's been married four times and

524
00:25:50,960 --> 00:25:53,159
Speaker 1: you know, going for her fourths divorce, I think she

525
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,280
Speaker 1: just picks the wrong men because she's in love with

526
00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: the idea of being in love, and she falls in

527
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 1: love very easily before I got on here.

528
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 2: She's in love with the idea, but she.

529
00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:05,600
Speaker 1: Falls in love. But they're all been different. All her

530
00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: men have been different, So it's not like she has

531
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:10,160
Speaker 1: like a pattern, you know, her four relationships or marriages,

532
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,160
Speaker 1: because she's had more than four. She's had four marriages,

533
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,360
Speaker 1: but I think like six engagement rings, and she's been

534
00:26:15,480 --> 00:26:18,119
Speaker 1: you know, always pretty much always in a relationship. But

535
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,600
Speaker 1: she's looking for that love and that happiness. I feel

536
00:26:20,640 --> 00:26:24,919
Speaker 1: like a lot of women have that, you know. But

537
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,919
Speaker 1: the fact that this to her is ending and she

538
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,919
Speaker 1: was really in love with this man is just heartbreaking

539
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 1: for me. I honestly feel really bad for he because

540
00:26:33,040 --> 00:26:35,040
Speaker 1: I know how much she loves this man, like because

541
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: if not she wouldn't have put up with all the

542
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:38,960
Speaker 1: stuff that she's put up with.

543
00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: I think that also, because she's so into being in love,

544
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,840
Speaker 2: she puts up with a lot of things more than

545
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:51,880
Speaker 2: she should. I mean, we've all done this right. She

546
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,719
Speaker 2: she likes to be an achiever. She likes to do

547
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,640
Speaker 2: everything one hundred percent. And that's what she put into

548
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 2: this relationship. Like even though in and then you get

549
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 2: to a certain age, we're fifties, we're in our fifties.

550
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: I know you think she wanted I mean, she thought

551
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,119
Speaker 1: she was going to be married forever. He engraved in

552
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 1: her ring, I'm not going anywhere, and then he sends

553
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,639
Speaker 1: you know, the whole relationship started off so beautiful, like

554
00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:18,200
Speaker 1: he loved Bombderr with all these letters, you know, and

555
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:21,160
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, it's kind of like it's over,

556
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 1: and I feel like she's been doing the work. Or

557
00:27:24,160 --> 00:27:27,000
Speaker 1: she even canceled her concert. Yes, the ticket sales were low,

558
00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,600
Speaker 1: but you know what, she would have gone through it

559
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 1: because she's that person, like you said, and achiever. She

560
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: would have shown up to all her concerts. She would

561
00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,680
Speaker 1: have made them better than ever. So then her next

562
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: tour would have been even better. So She's an overachiever

563
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 1: when it comes to her work and her professional life.

564
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:44,600
Speaker 1: And I'm just so sad that she's struggled so much

565
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 1: on her personal life because she has children. You know,

566
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: I feel like you could get married and divorce. How

567
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 1: many times do you want when there's no children involved?

568
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,440
Speaker 1: But you know, sometimes when you have children, it really

569
00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 1: does affect the children.

570
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 2: The little ones, the little one separately. Hey, listen, I

571
00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: will say that. You know, my son said to me

572
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,159
Speaker 2: the other day, he said, MA, what would you have

573
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 2: done different? Am I the man that you? You know?

574
00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:10,320
Speaker 2: You did? I grow up to be the man that

575
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,080
Speaker 2: you're proud of? And I said, of course you are.

576
00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 2: You're I raised you to be the man that I

577
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:17,119
Speaker 2: would want. And he said, what would you have done different?

578
00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 2: And I said, well, there were times like I was

579
00:28:19,760 --> 00:28:22,679
Speaker 2: probably frustrated or it was harder on you and Gabby

580
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080
Speaker 2: than I should have been. And he said, but you

581
00:28:25,119 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 2: were always going through so much, like you always had

582
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,960
Speaker 2: so much on your plate that you can't blame yourself

583
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,960
Speaker 2: for those things. You handled them? Well, I wouldn't, She said,

584
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 2: you know, the hard times made me stronger in life.

585
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: But he said, you know, and as women, right or

586
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:46,520
Speaker 2: even as humans, men and women, like the kids get

587
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 2: the brunt of a lot of things. And you're right

588
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 2: about that.

589
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 1: And you can see it like you can see it

590
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:53,840
Speaker 1: in her children. You can see it in Ben Affleck's

591
00:28:53,880 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: children as well. And that's where I have a problem.

592
00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: And even with the fact that she's so into like

593
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: love and family and that's the first thing she does,

594
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: because it's so important for her to blend a family,

595
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 1: and she does that, and you can see that she's

596
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 1: like striving for that, and she made Ben like a

597
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 1: family man and like a better man and a better

598
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 1: father to his own kids. And then now they're saying,

599
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: you know, sources are saying, which by the way, we

600
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 1: know it's like her camp. And at this point, you

601
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:23,880
Speaker 1: know what good for her. I'm happy that her camp

602
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:24,479
Speaker 1: is talking.

603
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: They're tired of her getting shit on exactly.

604
00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 1: They're like, what are you talking about, Like you haven't

605
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,720
Speaker 1: seen my kids or you know, in four months. So yes,

606
00:29:31,760 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: he's like parading. Obviously his kids are more important. But

607
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: at that point, like what she wished him a happy

608
00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:40,480
Speaker 1: Father's day, our hero like and she's always like praised

609
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: about what a good father Ben is. And now since

610
00:29:43,640 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 1: they got separated. He hasn't seen any of her kids,

611
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: and she has kept in touch, you know, with his kids.

612
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 2: You know what, she's better off because he is he

613
00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,000
Speaker 2: is not good for her. I'm not putting him down.

614
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: I have nothing to say bad about him. I never

615
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 2: and him personally, but from what I see, whatever he is,

616
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:06,680
Speaker 2: he's not for her. And that's it.

617
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't think so. And I think it's it took

618
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: her these four months of being separated, you know, her

619
00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 1: being in the Hampton's and in Italy and just having

620
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 1: alone time and him being back in LA and just

621
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: being separate and having that distance to realize, like, he's

622
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,040
Speaker 1: not going to change. And you can't fix people. You

623
00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: can't fix people.

624
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 2: And don't change.

625
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 1: Let me tell you, well, women don't change either. I

626
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: mean I feel like what women I think a different

627
00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: and I know a lot of guys are going to

628
00:30:32,520 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: hate me for that, or maybe even some women. Is

629
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,760
Speaker 1: the fact that I don't think we give up so

630
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,719
Speaker 1: quickly in our marriages or in our relationships, you know,

631
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: especially when we love so hard. You know we'll keep

632
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 1: on wanting to like fix it. And I mean I

633
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: don't know her personally, but you know I read her

634
00:30:48,040 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: book True Love when she was going through the separation

635
00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 1: with Mark Anthony, and I've always followed her. I always

636
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,520
Speaker 1: read like all her interviews. I'm actually, you know, to me,

637
00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: she's been inspiring in many ways, and I have a

638
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:02,880
Speaker 1: lot of love and respect for her, even though I

639
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 1: don't know her personally. But this has really like affected

640
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: me because I was really hoping for her that she

641
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,000
Speaker 1: was going to be this was it. This was like

642
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: the guy that she was going to be, you know,

643
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: live the rest of her life with that she wanted.

644
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 2: God, it's not Alexia, Thank God, it's not because he's

645
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:23,920
Speaker 2: not for her. He's a mope. He's always miserable. Even

646
00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,440
Speaker 2: when I saw them at the awards together, right and

647
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 2: she was sitting there and she was trying. Now, I've

648
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 2: been there before. I had been the girl who was

649
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: sitting with the guy who's being miserable, and you got

650
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 2: to like try to hope that, you know, you can

651
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: keep it together because you can't pick a fight in

652
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 2: front of a thousand people and you're just trying to, like,

653
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 2: you know, it doesn't matter if.

654
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 1: You're it's hard. Yeah, it's hard.

655
00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 2: We all go through the same thing in relationships. And

656
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:50,960
Speaker 2: sometimes it's like you can't.

657
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:53,120
Speaker 1: Even hide it, because there's some guys that can hide it.

658
00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,600
Speaker 1: There's some guys that will fake it, and they'll go

659
00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,200
Speaker 1: out in public and pretend everything's good, and then you

660
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:00,400
Speaker 1: get in the car or at home and it's like

661
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 1: a different person. Yeah, what you guys saw there is

662
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 1: not the real one. Right.

663
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 2: It's a long night.

664
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,080
Speaker 1: And I feel like she fell in love with like

665
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: a fictional character, Like in her mind, it was like, Okay,

666
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,320
Speaker 1: I want Ben to be like all this stuff, and

667
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,000
Speaker 1: I feel like a lot of women do that. We're

668
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: all guilty of that, and you know, we're so like,

669
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:19,400
Speaker 1: you know, excited and love of the idea of like

670
00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: this is the guy that I want him to be,

671
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,440
Speaker 1: especially because obviously all those love letters and you know,

672
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,120
Speaker 1: the romance scene, Yeah, love mommy. I mean, I feel

673
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 1: like he has a lot of narcissistic characters Between you

674
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: and I, he's.

675
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,400
Speaker 2: Got a lot of demons. But he I don't know

676
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 2: who's good for him to be honest, right, No.

677
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 1: He's never going to be happy, Dolores. No woman is

678
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:42,480
Speaker 1: gonna be like, no woman is good enough, and he's

679
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 1: always going to find some kind of fault or flaw

680
00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 1: in the women because that's what that's what he's done.

681
00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: I mean, Jennifer Gardner could have been like a better woman.

682
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,000
Speaker 1: I mean she's still there. She's still there babysitting him,

683
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,080
Speaker 1: you know, and taking care of him.

684
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: And she's like, you know, like she's normal. So you know,

685
00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:02,720
Speaker 2: he's he's just not for either one of them. But yet,

686
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:06,160
Speaker 2: look at who he wound up with. Two women, two

687
00:33:06,240 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: successful women to like for the most part, right, like

688
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: normal women. They're not crazy. You don't see all this.

689
00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: Like because normal women fall in love with crazy men,

690
00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: and men'll be psychologically.

691
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,360
Speaker 2: We have to stop those things and vice versa too, Alexi.

692
00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: Yet I know a lot of nice guys who just

693
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:33,280
Speaker 2: fall for oh you got to yeah, crazy. But I

694
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,360
Speaker 2: think when you're vulnerable, like I said, you're you attract

695
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: there's a reason you attract these these people. I'm not

696
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 2: sure what it is yet, but it's not a peaceful life.

697
00:33:53,280 --> 00:33:56,160
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez has filed for divorce from Ben Affleck, and

698
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:59,000
Speaker 1: she requested her name to change to be changed back

699
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: to Jennifer lin Low rather than Jennifer Lynn Affleck. How

700
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: do you feel about that about changing the name.

701
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 2: She shouldn't have changed it in the first place. But

702
00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with that. However, Well,

703
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:15,200
Speaker 2: she's very traditional and romantic, and that is why she's

704
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 2: in the position she's No.

705
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: I know that's I relate to her because I'm like

706
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:20,600
Speaker 1: that too. I think that that's why I have I

707
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:20,920
Speaker 1: get it.

708
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: She wanted that nuclear family, then don't pick ben Affleck,

709
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:27,320
Speaker 2: who who has all these issues.

710
00:34:28,120 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: That is true, she picks the wrong men. Yeah, that's

711
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:31,480
Speaker 1: why she's had four.

712
00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 2: We all long for that normal family since we're little girls.

713
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: We long for that normal family. We dream about it,

714
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: we play it, we do other But you know, if

715
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 2: you pick the wrong person, it ruins your plans for yourself.

716
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:49,640
Speaker 2: And that's it. Yeah, I mean, he's all his stuff

717
00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: that I'm reading is all basically real bullshit about how

718
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:58,360
Speaker 2: they had differences in their idea and their lifestyle.

719
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:02,279
Speaker 1: Their lifestyle. Yeah, he's private and she's public, and she

720
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: wants to go out with her friends and have fun

721
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: and be social and social and advertise their love on

722
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 1: social media and he doesn't. Well, why are you even

723
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:14,920
Speaker 1: hitting on like Robert Kennedy's daughter. I mean, I mean,

724
00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:17,239
Speaker 1: if you really don't want that you pick like a

725
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:19,640
Speaker 1: plain Jane girl. But like everybody's gone out with. He

726
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:23,640
Speaker 1: went out with Anati Adamos, which is a Cuban actress, beautiful,

727
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 1: and he used to get photographs all the time with her.

728
00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:30,080
Speaker 1: Then he went out with the producer of Saturday Night Live,

729
00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,279
Speaker 1: one of those women that produces the show, and he

730
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: also got photographs with her. He used to get photographs

731
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 1: with Jennifer Garner. Of course, with j Lo has been

732
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,400
Speaker 1: over the top and more than anything, because she's a

733
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: star just like him. But I think what bothers him

734
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,200
Speaker 1: is that her star shines brighter than his, and he

735
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: can do he just.

736
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 2: Took the words out of my mouth. Like. So he

737
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 2: goes with these very famous women and then all of

738
00:35:57,400 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 2: a sudden he wants them to think that there's a

739
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: problem with them. Do you see the pattern, Like I

740
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 2: don't want to be with you because of your fame.

741
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 2: For he goes with them knowing what they are, but

742
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,480
Speaker 2: then he gets he makes them feel bad about what

743
00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:14,840
Speaker 2: they've made of themselves, like they've done something so magnanimous

744
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 2: with their lives, like it's like a gift from God.

745
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 2: It's like catching lightning in a bottle and he they

746
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:24,000
Speaker 2: should have somebody telling them every day, look at what

747
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: you've become, look where you've come from. Instead, you got

748
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:30,360
Speaker 2: him saying I don't want I don't want this because

749
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 2: that's just what you are. But you met me like.

750
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,520
Speaker 1: This, And when did that change? Because in February he

751
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,879
Speaker 1: was like promoting the docu series and he was part

752
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 1: of it, and again he even had editing rights. So

753
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:45,840
Speaker 1: at this point I feel like he sat there, he

754
00:36:45,880 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 1: did all that, and then he gave a false narrative,

755
00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:50,960
Speaker 1: which is like, oh, you know, you know, I'm not

756
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:54,240
Speaker 1: really okay. I'm really uncomfortable that Jennifer, you know, shared

757
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 1: all of our love letters. But by the way, you

758
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:00,040
Speaker 1: produced it and you had editing rights like you, I

759
00:36:59,840 --> 00:37:01,799
Speaker 1: don't have that any rights, but he does.

760
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:04,040
Speaker 2: I know what that's like to not want something in

761
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 2: there and not be able to get it out exactly.

762
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,359
Speaker 2: But he absolutely did not have to keep that in there.

763
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:12,480
Speaker 1: So now he did that on purpose, my friend, I

764
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,240
Speaker 1: feel like he said that narrative because he wanted everybody

765
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 1: to believe that because he already had everything like set

766
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: up and plans like I'm going to divorce this film.

767
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 2: And not everybody understands that that's why she's getting a

768
00:37:23,600 --> 00:37:25,799
Speaker 2: lot of flat That's why a lot of women are

769
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,759
Speaker 2: being like, why did you do that to him, not

770
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:32,120
Speaker 2: realizing that he's the one that actually not only allowed

771
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,480
Speaker 2: it to happen, but probably suggested it because he was

772
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:36,120
Speaker 2: in charge.

773
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,760
Speaker 1: Yes, and he also has they have this movie coming

774
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: up that they're going to be in Toronto that apparently

775
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: Matt Damon's going because Matt Damon's's partner in the production company,

776
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: so he produced the movie as well. But the other night, Yeah,

777
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: well he's very close with Yes, Yeah, they're very close.

778
00:37:55,920 --> 00:37:58,839
Speaker 1: And but look, Matt Damon's won that's had a very

779
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:01,799
Speaker 1: private life, you know. Yeah, and he's married to a

780
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 1: simple girl that, by the way, has been married over

781
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:08,840
Speaker 1: nineteen years and he never gets photographed because nobody cares,

782
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: and they do, you know, And there's ways you know that, DOLORESA.

783
00:38:11,520 --> 00:38:13,439
Speaker 1: If you want to be private, I don't care who

784
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 1: you are, You're going to be private.

785
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,359
Speaker 3: There's many many people he didn't have to show up

786
00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: to these things with her, stay home, right, Like if

787
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,759
Speaker 3: I had someone with me that did not want that,

788
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:26,680
Speaker 3: I would say, not a problem.

789
00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: I'm not forcing you to come. You don't have to

790
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:32,560
Speaker 2: show up, but don't hold me back from going. And

791
00:38:32,600 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm okay to go by myself. So you know, there

792
00:38:37,160 --> 00:38:40,280
Speaker 2: could have been a compromise. If this was the problem,

793
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: he could have gone to some things, not all things.

794
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,319
Speaker 1: I think so too. I think that she really tried.

795
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,319
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, maybe I can't say the

796
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 1: same of her other marriages, and you know, she's always

797
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: been the one that's wanted out because you know that

798
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:56,439
Speaker 1: happens too. But I really do believe in my heart

799
00:38:56,719 --> 00:38:59,680
Speaker 1: she's very in love with him, and she fought till

800
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: the end to keep it alive, but he didn't put

801
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 1: in the work and he didn't want it. I mean,

802
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: she's saying it, you know. I mean, obviously they haven't

803
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,040
Speaker 1: made a public statement together or she hasn't been interviewed yet.

804
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm just waiting for her book because I just have

805
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: a feeling that she's going to write one of those

806
00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,319
Speaker 1: other books that also are going to be very like

807
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 1: self reflective about her, especially after doing the docu series,

808
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 1: as she opened up and she was so vulnerable, and

809
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:25,680
Speaker 1: you know, we got to see a different side of

810
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 1: j Loo because a lot of times the truth is

811
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 1: that we just got to see that side of her,

812
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:32,480
Speaker 1: of her being her professional life and just being a

813
00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:36,279
Speaker 1: superstar and performing, and we really got to see more

814
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 1: of her and who she is and her life.

815
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:42,800
Speaker 2: There's something called generational trauma, which I'm just learning about,

816
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,279
Speaker 2: and it's when the things in your family that have

817
00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 2: been in your family carry over to you until you

818
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,960
Speaker 2: heal it. I think that she needs to take some

819
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 2: time to even though she's Jilo. You know, she's been

820
00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: running forever and doing all these things and becoming super famous,

821
00:40:02,000 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 2: and maybe she just needs to come into herself, be

822
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 2: secluded for a little bit and just be like find

823
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:15,279
Speaker 2: herself and then make a different choice on who she's with.

824
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,439
Speaker 1: One hundred percent, she needs to heal because she moves

825
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 1: from one to the other, and you know, we always

826
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: think that that's going to resolve the problem, and it

827
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: just makes it worse because we picked the wrong partner.

828
00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:29,040
Speaker 2: I think she's done so much with her life except

829
00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 2: taking healing herself, because from what I see, she grows

830
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,239
Speaker 2: in every aspect in her life, but her personal relationships.

831
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: You know, life isn't perfect. You know. I feel like

832
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 1: a lot of women that are so successful in their

833
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 1: professional life sometimes you know, their personal life, and their

834
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:52,439
Speaker 1: emotional life is lacking because they're so concentrated and if

835
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,000
Speaker 1: you know, they work so hard at the other that

836
00:40:55,040 --> 00:40:59,120
Speaker 1: they don't really like to focus or you know, some people.

837
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:01,440
Speaker 1: Maybe she has a problem where she doesn't want to

838
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: like kind of do that self search and healing and

839
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I don't know. I think that

840
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: the docuseries kind of made her seem that she was

841
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 1: doing that work and that's why she was better. But

842
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,000
Speaker 1: I don't know it's gonna I don't think that she's

843
00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 1: gonna move on so quickly after this one. You know,

844
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:19,720
Speaker 1: there's always one.

845
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: That she doesn't Maybe it's good that right now things

846
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,880
Speaker 2: are a little bit slowing down for us. She canceled

847
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:27,279
Speaker 2: her tour.

848
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:30,160
Speaker 1: I feel like she made a lot of sacrifices for

849
00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:32,600
Speaker 1: this guy, and this is like, you know, how he

850
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: paid her, and.

851
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:35,799
Speaker 2: What's this one he's running around with now?

852
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 1: So I mean apparently, you know, his camp is obviously

853
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 1: denying the allegations and saying that they don't even know

854
00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:46,799
Speaker 1: each other. But there's other people or whoever saw them,

855
00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 1: like at the Polo lage.

856
00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: Where did it come from? Did it come out of?

857
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: Well, apparently he had a fling with her right before

858
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: he got back together with j Lo. Oh okay, so

859
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: they do know each other, but he thought that she

860
00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:01,440
Speaker 1: was too young and she wasn't like ready for anything.

861
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: By the way, she's thirty six. She looks very young though.

862
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: Did you find her young looking? Yeah, very young looking,

863
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,480
Speaker 1: but very like plain Jane or whatever, like I don't know,

864
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 1: like kind of like Jennifer Gardner, but like a younger

865
00:42:13,000 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 1: version of her.

866
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:15,080
Speaker 2: Yeah.

867
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, But anyways, you know, it's kind of like her

868
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 1: celebrity crush. You know, she obviously you know, grew up

869
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:24,279
Speaker 1: watching him and whatnot. And you know, he does own

870
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:27,840
Speaker 1: a production company. He's always casting his director, so of course,

871
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: like whoever is going to be you know, entertaining this,

872
00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: you know, they don't care about all his like you know,

873
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:37,840
Speaker 1: mental struggles right right, Well, you know at this point

874
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 1: he's denying it, so we don't know. But you know, again,

875
00:42:40,040 --> 00:42:41,320
Speaker 1: like I say, just give it time.

876
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:45,240
Speaker 2: Jlowe and him denied being together when they were together,

877
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 2: and then denied.

878
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: Being separated when they were separated. That's what they do.

879
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,480
Speaker 2: And then next thing, you know, yeah, so listen, if

880
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: if it's not that person, it'll be somebody else. Because

881
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:58,800
Speaker 2: he's another one that can't be alone.

882
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, he'll ifine you move on to his next supply.

883
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: And I think he's already working on it and it's

884
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 1: got a crown on. Yeah. Well now he's smiling. Now

885
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: he's smiling. I'm like, he's so cynical that with her,

886
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 1: like to prove a point. He was always like with

887
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,960
Speaker 1: that poopy face and always mad and angry, and now

888
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 1: it's like, oh, I'm really look at me. I'm like smiling,

889
00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 1: I'm so happy. I'm like, you're such a cycle. He's

890
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:24,680
Speaker 1: such a cycle, this guy.

891
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 2: I can't because you know what, then she's saying in

892
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:30,399
Speaker 2: her she's probably it's even so much worse when he's

893
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,239
Speaker 2: going around like that, because then she's saying, oh, the

894
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:35,960
Speaker 2: next person's going to get the better version of him.

895
00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:40,399
Speaker 1: J LO with there's no better version changing and there's

896
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:42,440
Speaker 1: no better version of him. They'll do the same thing

897
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: to them. So think he's the great write her love

898
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,480
Speaker 1: letters to love bumb her.

899
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 2: Write the love letters, and she's going to be walking

900
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:52,239
Speaker 2: around with a pit in her stomach, just like you

901
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:53,800
Speaker 2: did for the past few years.

902
00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it.

903
00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: Nobody's getting a better version.

904
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:07,960
Speaker 1: No, So I'm curious, Dolores, So you know how you

905
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 1: because you know you've been through this too and me

906
00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:15,560
Speaker 1: and whatnot? How long do you think is like a

907
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: fair amount of time to give your partner or the

908
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: other person to kind of or to give yourselves as

909
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: a couple before you're ready to make that decision, Like

910
00:44:26,800 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: do you think that there were four months? Five months?

911
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: Do you think that's too much? Like I feel like

912
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: it's a danger zone between you and I after a

913
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 1: certain amount of months, you know, unless there's communication and

914
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,560
Speaker 1: unless you're really really trying. But I felt like she

915
00:44:41,719 --> 00:44:45,080
Speaker 1: he not showing up at her birthday, he not, you know,

916
00:44:45,239 --> 00:44:46,759
Speaker 1: really like cutting ties with her.

917
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, he get checked out a long time ago. But

918
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,440
Speaker 2: everybody's different, So it's all relative, right, as long as

919
00:44:53,480 --> 00:44:58,360
Speaker 2: there's no domestic violence in something. If there's domestic violence

920
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:00,839
Speaker 2: in a relationship, then it has to go away. You

921
00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 2: cannot live like that. That has to there's no fixing that,

922
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,799
Speaker 2: there's no sticking around for that. But if it's just

923
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 2: like all this emotional turmoil, which is also very taxing

924
00:45:10,520 --> 00:45:14,239
Speaker 2: on you as a person. And I remember me, I

925
00:45:14,280 --> 00:45:17,240
Speaker 2: had to make a very big decision in my life

926
00:45:17,280 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: with two small children and no education and no way

927
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: to support myself. You have to say look in the

928
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:26,800
Speaker 2: mirror and say throw up your hands and say I've

929
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:31,560
Speaker 2: tried everything. I can sleep at night knowing that this

930
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,919
Speaker 2: is the right thing for me. And when you come

931
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 2: to that realization and you say to yourself nothing, being

932
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 2: without this person is not going to be worse than

933
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,520
Speaker 2: being with them, then you it's time to go. Your body,

934
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: your heart, and your mind has to be ready. After

935
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,359
Speaker 2: you feel like you've tried everything, you can never leave

936
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: with a regret, because then, like j Lo, you go

937
00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 2: back and you get yourself in traw Yeah.

938
00:45:58,200 --> 00:45:59,719
Speaker 1: I mean I think that in their case it was

939
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,400
Speaker 1: different circumstances. Twenty years ago. You know, they were younger

940
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 1: and naive, they didn't know how to handle it. You know,

941
00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 1: there were more like emotionally immature, and maybe you know,

942
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,359
Speaker 1: twenty years later she thought they were both had some

943
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:13,600
Speaker 1: growth and there were more emotionally mature.

944
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: A lexia growth out of rehabs. I've seen him like shit.

945
00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I just know I listened. I'm not supporting

946
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,960
Speaker 1: him at all. I feel just like you, I feel

947
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: like there was zero growth. But that's why I'm saying

948
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: that it was like a fictional character. She it was

949
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 1: somebody that she thought in her head was going to be,

950
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 1: and then she woke up one day and it wasn't

951
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: Prince Charming. Her fairy tale ending wasn't what she wanted

952
00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: it to be because the man she married and the

953
00:46:39,400 --> 00:46:40,840
Speaker 1: man she left were two different people.

954
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 2: I mean, thought of him was better than the reality,

955
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: plain and simple, and that's that is true, you know,

956
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: And I feel like that happens, you know, to a

957
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: lot of people.

958
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:52,479
Speaker 1: But I think it's just like you know, like you said,

959
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 1: within yourself, when it's time to go, and like you said, yeah.

960
00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:59,520
Speaker 2: You've done every single thing, no matter how hard it is.

961
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 2: When you can't take it anymore, and when that spark

962
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:05,560
Speaker 2: is gone, it's not coming back anyway.

963
00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:10,080
Speaker 1: Really, So I felt that he was humiliating her throughout

964
00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:13,040
Speaker 1: the entire process. He went and he moved out when

965
00:47:13,080 --> 00:47:14,880
Speaker 1: she wasn't there, He moved out of the house. Then

966
00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 1: he bought a twenty million dollar house on the day

967
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 1: of her birthday. I mean, he did so many things

968
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 1: to stick it to her that I am surprised that

969
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,600
Speaker 1: she stuck around for so many months.

970
00:47:25,960 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: And that that's what I mean, Like when she was

971
00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 2: good and ready. And I've said this to my friends,

972
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 2: when you're good and ready, I will support that decision.

973
00:47:35,239 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 2: If you love him, I love him. If you hate him,

974
00:47:37,840 --> 00:47:41,960
Speaker 2: I hate him, I love that. Tomorrow I'm behind you,

975
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:44,720
Speaker 2: and I will give him the respect of your love.

976
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,799
Speaker 2: I don't have to internally like this person, But you know,

977
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:53,440
Speaker 2: I think that she had also the thing of like

978
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 2: what are people going to say? What are people going

979
00:47:55,640 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 2: to think? The other thing about making this about all

980
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 2: this break happened and it's time to do something. Is

981
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 2: you have to let go of what you think people

982
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:04,680
Speaker 2: will say about you or what they will think.

983
00:48:04,760 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you have to shut It's funny that you

984
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,520
Speaker 1: say that, because I say the same thing. You have

985
00:48:08,600 --> 00:48:10,600
Speaker 1: to shut the world down, like you have to shut

986
00:48:10,600 --> 00:48:13,880
Speaker 1: down all the noise. You can't listen to anybody or anything,

987
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:16,560
Speaker 1: because everybody will drive you crazy. This is the time

988
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: that you need to have the most clarity in your

989
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,120
Speaker 1: life and just be like, I'm not talking to anybody,

990
00:48:21,160 --> 00:48:23,800
Speaker 1: sticking to what I need to find out about myself.

991
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: And I think she's been doing that. And I also

992
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: read an article that her mom was Ben Alfleck's biggest

993
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,480
Speaker 1: supporter and cheerleader, and she was, you know, giving her

994
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:35,719
Speaker 1: good advice, you know, as far as to you know,

995
00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: try and make things work out. And that's what Jennifer

996
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,439
Speaker 1: always wanted. But until now, and then now her mother

997
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 1: is like, you know what, you need to file for divorce,

998
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,600
Speaker 1: and not only that, you need to start talking and

999
00:48:47,640 --> 00:48:50,160
Speaker 1: you need to start telling people who this man was.

1000
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:55,400
Speaker 2: For her mother to have supported him, he was probably choosing.

1001
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:57,520
Speaker 1: The mother one hundred percent. Well, they had the gambling

1002
00:48:57,560 --> 00:48:59,920
Speaker 1: thing in common, so they like to gamble. And then

1003
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:02,400
Speaker 1: I think he put her like in some commercial or something,

1004
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,920
Speaker 1: some kind of things like that. But these guys usually

1005
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,799
Speaker 1: are like that, They're like schmoozers, you know what I mean.

1006
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 2: They're very careful.

1007
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,560
Speaker 1: And then the mom was the one that pushed and

1008
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: loved the idea of her getting back with Ben.

1009
00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 2: And he could be a big reason. Listen, when my

1010
00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 2: mother tells me something, I listen. You know that that

1011
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 2: validation from your mother goes a very very long way.

1012
00:49:23,840 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 1: And you know, and moms always know, they have like

1013
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: the sixth scent, like.

1014
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 2: They know, you know, moms could be fool too.

1015
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,480
Speaker 1: Well in the beginning, you know, I think in the beginning,

1016
00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: you know, there's going to be people always that are

1017
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:35,399
Speaker 1: rooting for you and they love it and they see

1018
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,920
Speaker 1: you happy, and you know, and I feel like she

1019
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 1: was making him better, you know, she was kind of

1020
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 1: like lying about things or keeping things inside when like

1021
00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:46,719
Speaker 1: her manager didn't like him, a lot of her friends,

1022
00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:49,719
Speaker 1: and he was kind of like isolating her from all

1023
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: the people she was close to, which is another sign.

1024
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,120
Speaker 2: I never I never seen them as together. I never

1025
00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:57,719
Speaker 2: seen it. Never one day.

1026
00:49:57,960 --> 00:50:00,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, not twenty years ago. Yeah, not on their They

1027
00:50:00,880 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 1: always kind of looked like they were against each other. Like,

1028
00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think she but I think kind

1029
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 1: of like him. Yeah, I mean to me, he's just

1030
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:11,000
Speaker 1: not like mentally well, because I mean, that's not what

1031
00:50:11,080 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: you get married for. That's not what you're in a

1032
00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: relationship for. I mean, like what is that? I mean,

1033
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 1: that's that's how I see it.

1034
00:50:17,320 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 2: I don't like what he does though. This is my

1035
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:23,120
Speaker 2: biggest problem all of a sudden with these women that

1036
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:27,239
Speaker 2: he goes for. He makes them feel bad about what

1037
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 2: they are that I cannot let fall off because I've

1038
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,240
Speaker 2: had in my past people have done that to me. Yes,

1039
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,200
Speaker 2: so I recognize it when I see it.

1040
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 1: Of course, in the trade of his his Yeah, I'm

1041
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:42,640
Speaker 1: sure he'll do the same thing, you know, to the

1042
00:50:42,680 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: next one. But because we really don't know somewhere.

1043
00:50:46,239 --> 00:50:48,759
Speaker 2: Unless he finds a plain girl, like a plane like

1044
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:49,960
Speaker 2: girl behind.

1045
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,879
Speaker 1: Well, this girl supposedly has no social media. I mean

1046
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:55,120
Speaker 1: she does have it, but she doesn't have a presence

1047
00:50:55,120 --> 00:50:57,719
Speaker 1: on it, and she's not like, you know, documenting like

1048
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 1: her life on social media. But that doesn't mean anything.

1049
00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,239
Speaker 1: I mean she's still a very public person and her

1050
00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 1: family couldn't be more public either. I mean her father

1051
00:51:06,800 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 1: was just running for president the girl next door, so

1052
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:15,640
Speaker 1: it really he's really contradicting himself. And like I always

1053
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,759
Speaker 1: knew that there was more behind it, and you know

1054
00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 1: hopefully that. I mean, their divorce is not going to

1055
00:51:20,080 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: be very quick because they have no prenups. And how

1056
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,040
Speaker 1: do you feel about prenupsn't.

1057
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:29,040
Speaker 2: Just walk away? This is how I feel about prenups.

1058
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 2: I don't love them. But if it's but if it's

1059
00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:36,799
Speaker 2: a deal breaker, if it's a deal breaker, then there

1060
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,960
Speaker 2: would be a contingency that I would maybe I don't

1061
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 2: want to go after whatever you made before you met me,

1062
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,040
Speaker 2: but from meeting me or from being with me, and

1063
00:51:46,120 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 2: whatever is moving forward and a lifestyle I get used to.

1064
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 2: And I my biggest thing Alexi as a single woman

1065
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:57,919
Speaker 2: is is future financial security. If I'm giving my time

1066
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:00,400
Speaker 2: to a man, I would have to know that I

1067
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: would be taking care of for the rest of my life.

1068
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't want your big high rises in New York. Okay, Okay.

1069
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 2: If that means that that I'm going to still get married,

1070
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:10,520
Speaker 2: but I'm going to be okay for the rest of

1071
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: my life, then fine. You know that's that's the way

1072
00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 2: I look at it.

1073
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 1: So then you're probably not gonna get married. I just

1074
00:52:21,640 --> 00:52:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm telling.

1075
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Speaker 2: You it's not my goal.

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Speaker 1: That's totally no. I'm just saying because you know, I

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00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:30,880
Speaker 1: feel like prenups are important and necessary. But if you

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Speaker 1: get through that, because I mean, you really have to

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00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: get uncomfortable when you're doing a prenup, and like it

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00:52:37,000 --> 00:52:40,800
Speaker 1: really becomes a problem and it becomes a fight between

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Speaker 1: you know you.

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Speaker 2: I don't like it.

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Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, I feel like I feel

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00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:47,520
Speaker 1: that the same, But I do believe necessary.

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Speaker 2: What I sign it short. I'm not saying I wouldn't.

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Speaker 2: I sure would not.

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Speaker 1: As long as it's fair. You know, there's a lot

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00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,120
Speaker 1: of prenups obviously that aren't fair. Everything in life is

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00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,080
Speaker 1: about being fair. So I think that they're necessary. In

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00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:01,080
Speaker 1: this case, that would have saved themselves a lot of

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00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: trouble because they've only been married for two years. Of course,

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00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: Oh I think so. I think that. I feel like

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00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,399
Speaker 1: women always go after the guy's money just because it's

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00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,319
Speaker 1: where it hurts them. How do you get a guy back?

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00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,000
Speaker 1: You know what I mean by hurting like his money,

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00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:18,160
Speaker 1: like taking away his money. Every guy hates that. But

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00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:21,280
Speaker 1: and how do you get a woman back? You date younger,

1098
00:53:21,400 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 1: like in our case, right, or like something like that.

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00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,600
Speaker 1: That's what they would do, Like, Okay, big deal, you're

1100
00:53:25,719 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 1: dating a twenty five year old or a thirty year

1101
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 1: old who cares? You know, totally.

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Speaker 2: I love what they believe. Oh it's really love.

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00:53:33,440 --> 00:53:36,400
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. Yeah. See if they fall in love with

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00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,239
Speaker 1: like the pool guy or who are just like a

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00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:43,319
Speaker 1: regular guy. But but yeah, but now, I don't think

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00:53:43,360 --> 00:53:45,680
Speaker 1: their divorce is going to be over very quickly, just

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00:53:45,760 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 1: because they have no cleanup and they've made so much

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00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,560
Speaker 1: money the two of them, and the two years that

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00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,800
Speaker 1: they were married, and they had so many projects together.

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00:53:53,320 --> 00:53:55,160
Speaker 1: They're gonna lose a lot of money in their house,

1111
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:58,040
Speaker 1: on their sixty million dollar house, but.

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Speaker 2: Goes down.

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00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: But but you see, they had to preen up. She

1114
00:54:02,080 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 1: could have already signed it, like signed a divorce and

1115
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: said okay, I'm out and that's it. So sometimes it's better,

1116
00:54:08,239 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: I mean not sometimes I think it's necessary all the time,

1117
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 1: especially when there's so many assets and so much wealth.

1118
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 2: It's a shame. She's worked very, very hard to get

1119
00:54:18,719 --> 00:54:22,000
Speaker 2: to where she is. She's just sacrificed a lot in

1120
00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 2: her life, and she she really just deserves to be happy.

1121
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: I want her to be happy too.

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00:54:30,200 --> 00:54:33,000
Speaker 2: I really just again, you know what, I wish for

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00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:36,399
Speaker 2: him to be happy and move on away from her.

1124
00:54:37,239 --> 00:54:39,760
Speaker 1: And he's never going to be happy. He's never Guys

1125
00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:43,080
Speaker 1: like this are never happy with themselves, Like they're never

1126
00:54:43,120 --> 00:54:45,360
Speaker 1: happy with themselves. And he's not going to fix himself,

1127
00:54:45,520 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 1: like he just really you know, that dark, dark side

1128
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:50,840
Speaker 1: that he has of himself, it's he's never going to

1129
00:54:50,880 --> 00:54:52,600
Speaker 1: be able to fix that. He's just going to go

1130
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: on to the next and the next and the next,

1131
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:54,919
Speaker 1: and that's how he'll live.

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00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:57,719
Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, what are the signs that

1133
00:54:57,760 --> 00:55:01,759
Speaker 2: women should look for? Or even men and women to

1134
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,520
Speaker 2: look for when they get involved with somebody like this, Like, well,

1135
00:55:06,600 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 2: it's hard in the beginning because here's the love letters

1136
00:55:10,040 --> 00:55:12,879
Speaker 2: and the you know she loved him.

1137
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:15,359
Speaker 1: Oh no, I think he loved her too, in his

1138
00:55:15,400 --> 00:55:17,200
Speaker 1: own way. I mean, I don't think guys like this

1139
00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: really love anybody. You know, they just don't know, they

1140
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:23,600
Speaker 1: don't have that emotional intimacy and maturity to like fall

1141
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:25,359
Speaker 1: in love like that, because if not, he would still

1142
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: be fighting for to save their marriage. I mean there's

1143
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 1: no reason. I mean, his excuse about the public life

1144
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:32,600
Speaker 1: that she has and he doesn't want to live it.

1145
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 2: And it is that a quote from him though? Was

1146
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 2: that an actual.

1147
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: Well, those were the signs right after the docu series

1148
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: came out there, that's what happened. I mean, like a

1149
00:55:43,600 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 1: few months later, there was the last time they saw

1150
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:48,560
Speaker 1: him together. That was like February something, March twenty ninth

1151
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,560
Speaker 1: to solumn in New York, and now she's stayed in

1152
00:55:50,600 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: April twenty sixth, so it was literally two months after that.

1153
00:55:53,719 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: So it's kind of like it looks like he planted

1154
00:55:55,560 --> 00:55:56,719
Speaker 1: the scene, right.

1155
00:55:57,040 --> 00:56:00,280
Speaker 2: What about like Sophia Bagara and Joe Magnello or however

1156
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 2: you say, is right, like he wanted children. We all

1157
00:56:04,280 --> 00:56:06,480
Speaker 2: knew Sophia Vaguard did not want more.

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00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,160
Speaker 1: Children, right, Well, he says his story. Now he's saying

1159
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: it's different. He said that we actually talked about Sophia too,

1160
00:56:13,640 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: and that's what she's saying. But I guess that he

1161
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,799
Speaker 1: let her go with it. And then he said at

1162
00:56:18,800 --> 00:56:21,480
Speaker 1: one point that they tried the first nine years, you know,

1163
00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,000
Speaker 1: to have a child, and it didn't happen. So he

1164
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:26,719
Speaker 1: told her, I would never leave you because the all

1165
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 1: the men say that. Apparently all these all these men

1166
00:56:29,719 --> 00:56:31,839
Speaker 1: say that he told her the same thing, I'll never

1167
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 1: leave you because of that. If you know, it didn't happen.

1168
00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:36,440
Speaker 1: We weren't able to have children, and I'm never going

1169
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 1: to leave you for that. And apparently she was the

1170
00:56:38,200 --> 00:56:41,319
Speaker 1: one that left them. You know, truthfully, we're never really

1171
00:56:41,360 --> 00:56:43,960
Speaker 1: going to know, right just like you know he knows because.

1172
00:56:43,719 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 2: You know, she had embryos. She had embryos left over

1173
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: that she fought with her ex husband and I so

1174
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:54,040
Speaker 2: that that story doesn't make sense to me. This story

1175
00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:57,920
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me. We are not going to know.

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00:56:59,320 --> 00:57:01,600
Speaker 1: To be continued, I don't think we're I don't think

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Speaker 1: I'm going to be able to close this chapter of

1178
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,640
Speaker 1: Jennifer in my life. I feel like so many more

1179
00:57:06,640 --> 00:57:07,920
Speaker 1: things are going to developed.

1180
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot of faith in you that you

1181
00:57:11,120 --> 00:57:14,200
Speaker 2: are going to get to the bottom of this, and

1182
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: you're not going to rest until you get to the

1183
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 2: bottom of this.

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00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: No, I'm pounting on her writing a book. I'm counting

1185
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:22,360
Speaker 1: on her writing a memoir like something she needs to

1186
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:28,480
Speaker 1: expose them anyways. No, I just think again, just because

1187
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,600
Speaker 1: I feel like he's created that narrative. That's what I'm

1188
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:32,960
Speaker 1: upset about, because you know what if that say the truth,

1189
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:35,080
Speaker 1: like I'm all about saying the truth, just say the truth.

1190
00:57:35,400 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: Say listen, I'm going through a midlife crisis. You know

1191
00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 1: I'm not. You know, I thought I was in love

1192
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: with you and I wanted this kind of you.

1193
00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 2: It's me or something.

1194
00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:47,320
Speaker 1: But thenever he doesn't want to take right, he doesn't

1195
00:57:47,320 --> 00:57:50,120
Speaker 1: want to take accountability or responsibility, And of course it's

1196
00:57:50,160 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 1: just easier to blame it on the other person that's

1197
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:54,560
Speaker 1: been married and divorced four times and goes from one

1198
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,320
Speaker 1: relationship to the other. It's like she's the problem. You

1199
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: know what, Jlo, this time it's not you.

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00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,480
Speaker 2: Don't beat yourself up over this.

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00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:04,400
Speaker 1: Well, my friend, it's been so much fun talking to you,

1202
00:58:04,600 --> 00:58:07,040
Speaker 1: so fine you I want you to come to Miami.

1203
00:58:07,760 --> 00:58:09,800
Speaker 2: I want to come so bad as soon as things

1204
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:13,200
Speaker 2: come down over here. I'm leaving for Portugal and then

1205
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:14,640
Speaker 2: I have a few things, but I think I'm going

1206
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 2: to make a trip.

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00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:17,680
Speaker 1: I have a wonderful trip. You have so much fun

1208
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,800
Speaker 1: in Portugal. It's beautiful. You're going to really enjoy it,

1209
00:58:21,040 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: enjoy your time with the family, and we'll catch up

1210
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 1: your phone. I have. I used to live in Spain,

1211
00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 1: so when I live there, that's the beauty of living

1212
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,680
Speaker 1: in Europe. It's so easy to travel, like throughout Europe.

1213
00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:37,080
Speaker 1: But it's really beautiful. And yeah, we'd love to have

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,400
Speaker 1: you back on because you like to talk as much as.

1215
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:42,680
Speaker 2: Me and I love it so much. I love it.

1216
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 2: I'm going to keep like I'll be texting you because

1217
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:47,280
Speaker 2: let's keep in touch about what's going on here.

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00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:49,560
Speaker 1: For sure, No, no, for sure we're going to be like, ah,

1219
00:58:49,640 --> 00:58:51,840
Speaker 1: did you see this? But definitely I would love to

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Speaker 1: have you back on. It's been so much fun. You're

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00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 1: great to talk to. I love your wisdom, I love

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Speaker 1: your energy, and I love you. Thank you.

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Speaker 2: I think I love you too. Kissens to everyone, Bye bye,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 1: For having me, bye, Thank you for listening. Guys, thanks

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Speaker 1: for listening.

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