WEBVTT - TV | DIGITAL DAVID & GOLIATH: DEFEATING BIG TECH 0:00:09.960 --> 0:00:13.160 Censorship on social media is out of control, with companies 0:00:13.200 --> 0:00:17.840 like Twitter, Facebook, and Instagram eliminating prominent conservative voices from 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:20.160 their platforms. It's an issue that many on the right 0:00:20.200 --> 0:00:22.560 have been discussing for years now what can be done 0:00:22.560 --> 0:00:25.240 to fight back? In this special edition of Hold the Line, 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:28.680 we'll talk to several tech entrepreneurs and lawmakers who are 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:32.720 challenging the big tech social media monopoly by building alternatives 0:00:32.920 --> 0:00:43.760 for those who are being silenced. Welcome to the special 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:46.559 edition of Hold the Line. I'm buck Sexton. If we 0:00:46.680 --> 0:00:49.239 lose the big tech battle, we will lose all the 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:52.919 political battles to come after it. They control the spread 0:00:53.040 --> 0:00:57.800 of information. They control the pipes of the dissemination of 0:00:58.200 --> 0:01:01.960 data and facts and figures in such a way that 0:01:02.040 --> 0:01:06.120 they can shape your perception, everyone's perception about reality. And 0:01:06.160 --> 0:01:09.160 they've done this for partisan ends. We know this now 0:01:09.600 --> 0:01:13.000 beyond any reasonable doubt. They used to claim that this 0:01:13.080 --> 0:01:16.080 was just an accident. They would occasionally ban a conservative 0:01:16.160 --> 0:01:20.440 or suspend one for sharing a not PC thought or 0:01:20.480 --> 0:01:24.080 sharing something that was considered too dangerous to the ruling 0:01:24.160 --> 0:01:27.759 Democrat apparatus, and of course, the big tuck oligarch sitting 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:31.720 atop that largely, but now we know, now we've seen 0:01:31.760 --> 0:01:34.720 what the reality actually is. Here's just a little flashback 0:01:34.760 --> 0:01:38.759 to October of twenty twenty, when Jack Dorsey, former CEO 0:01:38.800 --> 0:01:41.319 of Twitter, was saying that there was no evidence that 0:01:41.360 --> 0:01:44.800 the New York Post story on Hunter Biden's emails was disinformation. 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:48.520 Watch this one, okay for cooth Mister Zuckerberg and Dorsey 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:54.520 who censored, censored New York Post stories or throttled them back. 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.000 You either one of you have any evidence that the 0:01:58.080 --> 0:02:00.560 New York Post story is part of Russian distry information 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:05.840 or that those emails aren't authentic to any any any 0:02:06.000 --> 0:02:08.280 instipation what's there they're not authentic, or that they are 0:02:08.360 --> 0:02:14.680 Russian disinformation. Mister Darcy, we don't you know, so, so 0:02:14.680 --> 0:02:16.760 why would why would you censor it? Why did you 0:02:16.840 --> 0:02:19.799 prevent that from being disseminated on your platform that is 0:02:19.840 --> 0:02:23.120 supposed to be for the free expression of ideas and 0:02:23.200 --> 0:02:27.200 particularly true ideas. We believed to Philip Felt our hacking 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:32.399 materials policy, we judged and it was hacked. They weren't hacked. 0:02:32.680 --> 0:02:35.440 We judged in a moment that it looked like it 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:39.480 was hacked materials. You were wrong, purpacing and and we 0:02:39.600 --> 0:02:42.919 updated our policy and our enforcement within twenty four hours. 0:02:45.040 --> 0:02:48.720 They were wrong. It wasn't hacked material. It was true material, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:51.359 and it was right before an election, and it might 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.280 have actually changed the course of that election. The Big 0:02:54.280 --> 0:02:59.840 Tech now is clearly openly a Democrat superpack in act, 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:04.079 and that's the way they actually operate, and they have 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.840 an understanding now of the amount of power that they wield, 0:03:08.240 --> 0:03:10.480 and this is not going to be something we could 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:13.440 ignore any longer. You can care a lot about the border, 0:03:13.520 --> 0:03:16.359 about defund the police and crime, and you can care 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:21.120 about spending and COVID policy and inflation, all these things. 0:03:21.160 --> 0:03:27.000 If the lib left Marxist social media platforms are able 0:03:27.080 --> 0:03:30.760 to continue to control the spread of information, to shut 0:03:30.800 --> 0:03:33.720 down voices that are speaking the truth or that are 0:03:33.760 --> 0:03:36.960 critics of the regime, we're never going to be able 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.480 to win at the national level. Again, those are the stakes, 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:42.720 which is why the Democrats are now all in on censorship. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.200 They realize they want to use this weapon, this tool 0:03:46.800 --> 0:03:51.320 of information suppression, as long as they possibly can, because 0:03:51.440 --> 0:03:55.200 it is enormously helpful to their power and their aspirations 0:03:55.240 --> 0:03:57.560 for more of it. This was just in July present, 0:03:57.560 --> 0:04:00.760 the United States, Joe Biden was actually saying that information 0:04:00.800 --> 0:04:03.400 on Facebook that the regime doesn't approve of is literally 0:04:03.520 --> 0:04:07.640 killing people. Watch what's your message the platforms like Facebook, 0:04:10.120 --> 0:04:14.960 they're killing people. I mean they're really Look, the only 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:20.000 pandemic we have is among the unvaccinated, and they're killing people. 0:04:21.400 --> 0:04:23.720 That's not true, by the way, as you know, one 0:04:23.720 --> 0:04:25.960 of the dumbest lines ever uttered by any president's a 0:04:26.000 --> 0:04:29.200 pandemic of the unvaccdor. No, it's not. That is a lie. 0:04:29.839 --> 0:04:35.200 They were wrong anyway. Jensaki, White House Press Secretary, really 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.039 the propagandas are of the Biden regime. She says that 0:04:38.120 --> 0:04:41.400 you should be banned from all social media. Plan Let 0:04:41.440 --> 0:04:43.400 let's take a step back for a second. Here. The 0:04:43.520 --> 0:04:46.560 people that are supposed to be in charge of dissemiting 0:04:46.560 --> 0:04:49.640 information to the public so they can make informed decisions 0:04:49.680 --> 0:04:53.720 and that this republic can stand with citizens who are 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:57.400 informed enough to be able to hold their government to 0:04:57.520 --> 0:05:01.240 account and to make wise decisions and who they allect. Meanwhile, 0:05:01.360 --> 0:05:03.240 the people in charge are actually saying, no, no, we 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:05.960 want to shut down anybody that gets it our way. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:08.880 We want to censor them, we want to silence them. 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.560 This was just in July Jensaki saying you should be 0:05:11.600 --> 0:05:14.880 banned from all social media platforms, not just one. A 0:05:14.920 --> 0:05:18.400 couple of the steps that we have, you know, that 0:05:18.480 --> 0:05:22.320 could be constructive for the public health of the country 0:05:22.480 --> 0:05:27.320 are providing for Facebook or their platforms to measure and 0:05:27.360 --> 0:05:31.039 publicly share the impact of misinformation on their platform and 0:05:31.120 --> 0:05:34.479 the audience. It's reaching also with the public, with all 0:05:34.480 --> 0:05:38.880 of you to create robust enforcement strategies that bridge their 0:05:38.880 --> 0:05:42.159 properties and provide transparency about rules. You shouldn't be banned 0:05:42.200 --> 0:05:47.120 from one platform and not others if you afford providing 0:05:47.200 --> 0:05:52.279 misinformation out there spanned from all of them. You see, 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:57.280 they are open about their desire for censorship. Left controls 0:05:57.360 --> 0:06:00.880 the social media platforms, they run them, and they expect 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.320 them to be their allies, and they have been. We 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:05.920 need to do something about it, or we can just 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:08.640 continue to hear stuff like this from a member of Congress, 0:06:09.480 --> 0:06:14.119 Permilla Jaya Paula Washington, who's saying even banning conservatives isn't enough. Watch. 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:18.360 It's no secret that our social media companies have been 0:06:18.560 --> 0:06:24.200 part of their algorithms promoting disinformation, and I think that 0:06:24.279 --> 0:06:28.440 these steps are important, but frankly, a little too little 0:06:28.720 --> 0:06:31.960 and a little too late. The reality is it's not 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:36.320 just Marjorie Taylor Green. All over Twitter, social Media, Facebook, 0:06:36.920 --> 0:06:40.520 all of these companies have been using algorithms that are 0:06:40.520 --> 0:06:43.560 just about clickbait, not about truth. And so if we 0:06:43.640 --> 0:06:48.120 are going to take on the disinformation that's out there, 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:50.880 the big lie, and everything else that goes with it, 0:06:51.160 --> 0:06:52.880 then yes, this is a part of it. But it's 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:57.440 got to be much much more amazing, isn't it. Only 0:06:57.480 --> 0:07:00.960 want to prove narrative allowed agree with the people in power, 0:07:01.440 --> 0:07:03.320 or they will shut you down and silence you and 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:07.239 punish you. Or we can fight back. We can actually 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:11.760 build our own unsinkable aircraft carriers of free speech. And 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:13.400 that's what we want to talk to you about here 0:07:13.440 --> 0:07:15.640 on this special for Hold the line. We've got a 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.600 great lineup of guest coming up, and after the break 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.000 we'll talk to Jason Miller, whose social media platform Getter 0:07:22.320 --> 0:07:24.600 is poised to give Twitter a run for its money. 0:07:24.680 --> 0:07:43.840 Stay with us. Twenty sixteen presidential campaign was arguably the 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.200 first national race in which Twitter played a central role. 0:07:47.600 --> 0:07:50.000 At the time the general election rolled around, then candidate 0:07:50.000 --> 0:07:52.520 Trump had amassed a following of over ten million people 0:07:52.960 --> 0:07:56.040 social media megaphone allowed him to bypass hostile news outlets 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:59.520 and bring his message directly to potential voters. You already 0:07:59.520 --> 0:08:02.320 know President Trump was banned from Twitter in late twenty twenty, 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:04.200 a move it's done the political world and left him 0:08:04.480 --> 0:08:08.160 without the most important communication tool in his arsenal. What 0:08:08.160 --> 0:08:10.360 I mean now is the former senior advisor to the 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:15.760 Trump twenty twenty reelection campaign and CEO of Getter, Jason Miller. Jason, 0:08:15.800 --> 0:08:18.800 great to see him, but good to be back with you. 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:21.800 So let's just talk about what it was like. You're 0:08:21.800 --> 0:08:24.720 on the front lines of President Trump's twenty sixteen campaign 0:08:24.720 --> 0:08:27.400 in twenty twenty. But let's talk about twenty sixteen for 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:30.000 a moment and the enormous win that he had that 0:08:30.040 --> 0:08:33.439 so many people said was impossible. How critical was Twitter? 0:08:33.480 --> 0:08:35.880 I mean, what role did Twitter play and the President's 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.600 usage of that tool in his election and his defeat 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:42.880 of Hillary Clinton. Well, it's very important, both Twitter and 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:44.840 Facebook and let's say, all of social media. And what 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:47.480 I've always said is that President Trump really his superpower 0:08:47.760 --> 0:08:51.079 has been ability to bypass traditional media go directly to voters. 0:08:51.320 --> 0:08:53.240 And so in twenty sixteen, that was part of the 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:55.400 way that the President Trump was able to sneak up 0:08:55.720 --> 0:08:58.440 on the elites or the media or a lot of 0:08:58.440 --> 0:09:01.520 folks who didn't see a Trump coming because he's able 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.440 to talk directly to people, and they couldn't shut him 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.320 down by saying, here's negative coverage and the failing New 0:09:06.360 --> 0:09:08.599 York Times or fake news CNN or any of the 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.319 traditional news sources. What's different or changed in a lot 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:15.200 of ways over twenty twenty is they were ready for 0:09:15.280 --> 0:09:17.560 President Trump and for our team, and so they started 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.240 to change the rules of the game, whether it be 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.040 the warning labels that they would put up, whether it 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:25.240 be the shadow banning, or changing the algorithms. All these 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.360 different things made it much difficult to connect directly with people. 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:31.000 And one of the things that I think is important 0:09:31.000 --> 0:09:33.760 to know is that Dorsey and Zuckerberg both got a 0:09:33.840 --> 0:09:36.880 lot of heat from the left, particularly the progressive left, 0:09:37.080 --> 0:09:40.760 who blamed them for essentially helping President Trump win in 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.960 twenty sixteen. They say, if you hadn't, if you darned 0:09:44.040 --> 0:09:46.679 kids hadn't gone and created these platforms, then we wouldn't 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:48.679 have ended up with Trump. And so I think that's 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:50.800 part of the reason why you saw such the backlash 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.480 from Dorsey and Zuckerberg heading into twenty twenty because they 0:09:53.520 --> 0:09:57.840 were trying to make amends for having created their platforms 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.280 in twenty sixteen. How the issue of Twitter's cracked down 0:10:01.360 --> 0:10:04.719 on conservatives progressed over the years. I mean, Jason, I'm 0:10:04.720 --> 0:10:06.760 all enough to remember when Twitter claimed there was no 0:10:07.040 --> 0:10:11.280 political bias or politicized decision making about who's being either 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:16.839 shadow banded or outright suspended. What's changed, Well, I think 0:10:16.840 --> 0:10:19.640 a couple of things have changed. Number One, They've decided 0:10:19.840 --> 0:10:23.240 that they want to use their platform to help frame 0:10:23.679 --> 0:10:25.679 the world as far as what the issues are, how 0:10:25.720 --> 0:10:28.280 people look at things. This is no longer kind of 0:10:28.080 --> 0:10:31.240 the altruistic free speech platform. This is very much about 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:34.080 they have a particular ideology and they want people to 0:10:34.720 --> 0:10:36.679 abide by that. And so you take a look at, say, 0:10:36.679 --> 0:10:39.840 for example, Google and YouTube, the way that they now 0:10:39.880 --> 0:10:42.400 put warning labels on if you talk about climate change 0:10:42.400 --> 0:10:44.160 in the way that they don't agree with. You. Take 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:46.320 a look at the way that Twitter will go and 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:49.200 actually ban people or the sentence you to digital jail 0:10:49.280 --> 0:10:51.400 for a short amount of time and simply for saying 0:10:51.400 --> 0:10:54.320 something about vaccines or COVID that they don't agree with 0:10:54.400 --> 0:10:55.880 and that's part of the reason why we end up 0:10:55.880 --> 0:10:58.840 getting Rogan. You had the Robert doctor, Robert Malone, you 0:10:58.880 --> 0:11:01.559 had Marjorie Taylor green Book get kicked off, and then 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.120 that rolls up into helping us get Rogan, then ultimately 0:11:04.160 --> 0:11:06.920 Tucker Carlson yesterday. But Buck, I think if we kind 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:10.120 of step back here and take a look at it, 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:12.640 it's President Trump. I think was right when he said 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.280 last year, if they're willing to do it to me, 0:11:14.480 --> 0:11:16.280 they're willing to kick me off, they'll do it to 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:19.120 you in a second. Now we're seeing how they've kicked 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.200 off President Trump. Really, the guardrails are off, the big 0:11:22.240 --> 0:11:24.839 tech social media companies are unencumbered for what they want 0:11:24.840 --> 0:11:29.439 to do next. It's President Trump depending on an alternative 0:11:29.480 --> 0:11:31.400 being available if he should choose to run again in 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:35.560 twenty twenty four. In your estimation, that's a great question. 0:11:35.600 --> 0:11:37.679 I don't know if he's necessarily depending on it, but 0:11:37.800 --> 0:11:42.800 an alternative will be absolutely necessary. That's a critical function 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:44.360 if he wants to have a chance to win in 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:48.800 twenty twenty four, is to have this strongly developed alternative platform. 0:11:49.040 --> 0:11:51.199 Because the fact of the matter is the big tech 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:55.199 social media companies. If they even allow his new platform 0:11:55.320 --> 0:11:57.720 or some new platform that he's on to be on 0:11:57.840 --> 0:12:00.480 some of the app stores, they're going to look for 0:12:00.760 --> 0:12:04.120 every excuse an opportunity to try to shut him down. 0:12:04.440 --> 0:12:08.400 They will say it's in the future of human civilization. 0:12:08.480 --> 0:12:10.840 They'll say asteroids are going to crash into the earth 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.240 that we allow Trump back on Twitter or on Facebook. 0:12:14.400 --> 0:12:16.800 I think it's already clear that the bands for those 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:18.959 platforms are going to be permanent. But I think where 0:12:19.000 --> 0:12:20.439 the rubbers are really going to meet the road is 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:23.640 when he launches his own platform into what extent that's 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.079 allowed to thrive and operate, or if they just look 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:28.679 to shut it down right away. What happens, by the way, 0:12:28.720 --> 0:12:30.560 for other You know, when you can ban a president, 0:12:30.600 --> 0:12:33.400 you can obviously ban anybody, right so for a lot 0:12:33.480 --> 0:12:37.840 of other people, including prominent conservatives, on social media platforms 0:12:37.840 --> 0:12:41.360 Twitter and Facebook and others, it would be even harder, 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.560 you would think, to try to get some answers here. 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:46.319 But is there a well, what happens if you get 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:48.439 banned right now from one of these social media giants 0:12:48.480 --> 0:12:51.360 and your conservative and you say, hey, you know, I 0:12:51.480 --> 0:12:53.959 want my day in court, so to speak. Right without 0:12:54.040 --> 0:12:56.400 actually necessarily getting a legal aspect, though I know that's 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:57.840 a part of this too for some people, my friend 0:12:57.880 --> 0:13:01.040 Alex Barnson among them. But what happens, I mean, is 0:13:01.040 --> 0:13:03.480 there like a Twitter get out of jail court you 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:05.319 go to. I mean, who do you talk? It feels 0:13:05.320 --> 0:13:10.920 like it's also nameless and faceless, but yet immensely powerful. Well, 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.440 they do have an appeals process. I couldn't tell you 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:17.200 the inner workings of how that truly functions, just for 0:13:17.240 --> 0:13:19.320 the simple fact that they keep that very tight and 0:13:19.480 --> 0:13:22.720 very closely guarded, because again, there is a lot of 0:13:22.800 --> 0:13:25.360 unevenness and I think the way their standards are applied. 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:27.200 I mean, just take a look at the fact that 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:31.839 you have the Taliban, the Ayatola all on Twitter, but 0:13:31.880 --> 0:13:34.520 no President Trump. And pretty sure President Trump has never 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:37.120 killed anybody. You can't see the same thing of her 0:13:37.160 --> 0:13:40.080 a Moss, the Aetola and the Taliban. They've killed lots 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.120 of people. Senator Ram Paul, by the way, speaking of 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:47.000 people kicked off, politician, big public figure, well known, he 0:13:47.160 --> 0:13:49.840 explained why he was quitting. We've talked about Twitter a lot. 0:13:49.880 --> 0:13:54.080 YouTube obviously owned by Google, which is the subsidiary of 0:13:54.160 --> 0:13:57.319 alphabet here he is saying he left YouTube over censorship. 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.600 You know, I'm tired of censorship. You know they say 0:14:00.640 --> 0:14:03.160 Mark Twain used to say, everybody's complaining about the weather, 0:14:03.240 --> 0:14:05.960 but nobody's doing anything about it. Well, everybody on the 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:09.640 right complains about social media in their censorship, We'll do 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:12.400 something about it. Let's quit. So I'm no longer going 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:14.960 to let some punk, some snot nosed kid over at 0:14:15.040 --> 0:14:17.520 YouTube decide that a speech that I gave on the 0:14:17.559 --> 0:14:20.720 Senate floor is not appropriate, or that when I say 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:23.480 cloth mask don't work, because I'm trying to save lives, 0:14:23.800 --> 0:14:26.320 because if you go into the right, your grandparents are 0:14:26.320 --> 0:14:29.000 wearing a cloth mask, you're going to get infected. If 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.040 an eighty year old's taking care of their wife and 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:33.280 they're wearing a cloth mask and their wife ask COVID, 0:14:33.400 --> 0:14:36.000 they're going to get infected because the cloth mask don't work. 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:41.960 You don't say, Jason, well, that's right. I hope that 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:44.320 we can get Senator Paul over on Getter. He certainly 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:46.720 would be a welcome addition and a strong voice. I 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:49.320 think about a dozen or maybe fifteen senators who have 0:14:49.480 --> 0:14:51.920 joined the platform. But he's right, I mean at this point, 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:54.400 we got to look and say we're additional places to 0:14:54.440 --> 0:14:56.400 go and make our voices heard. You know, when the 0:14:56.440 --> 0:14:59.160 things buck is. I never tell people though that they 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.960 should go and give another platform. My philosophy is is 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.160 the CEO of gettor is that I have to make 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.240 Ghettor a desirable place for people to be. I need 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.000 to make it so people want to be a Ghettor. Yes, 0:15:11.000 --> 0:15:13.480 at a certain point people just start to give up 0:15:13.640 --> 0:15:16.480 the big tech platforms on their own. But I want 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:18.800 to lead with our strengths and our attributes and then 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.200 pull people in that way. Certainly a lot of people 0:15:21.200 --> 0:15:23.320 are saying, hey, we need to quit big tech altogether. 0:15:23.400 --> 0:15:26.520 Though we want to talk about going on offense here 0:15:26.720 --> 0:15:29.000 when it comes to free sphjas and we'll have more 0:15:29.080 --> 0:15:31.960 with the CEO of Ghettter, Jason Miller in a moment. 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.200 The past few years have demonstrated the importance of social 0:15:51.240 --> 0:15:54.000 media to the national political discussion and races all across 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:57.280 the country. So with Twitter's cracked down on conservatives and 0:15:57.320 --> 0:15:59.320 false wing, what can we donna take back power from 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:02.440 big tech job aience. In July last year, Jason Miller 0:16:02.440 --> 0:16:05.920 and his team launched get Her, a social media app 0:16:06.000 --> 0:16:10.160 designed to directly compete with the Twitter monolith. I mean, 0:16:10.160 --> 0:16:13.000 now once again, CEO of get Her, Jason Miller, Jason, 0:16:13.160 --> 0:16:17.040 thanks so much. Man. Now let's talk about offense. Yeah, 0:16:17.120 --> 0:16:19.400 absolutely so. We're taking the fight right too big tech, 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.680 and I think the bucket beginning of this. There are 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:24.120 a couple of philosophies that I laid out for our team. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.480 Number One, I think for too long we've been told 0:16:26.520 --> 0:16:28.880 if you want to have some alternative platform, you go 0:16:29.000 --> 0:16:30.720 develop it just not going to be as good as 0:16:30.760 --> 0:16:33.800 big tech. I tell my team every single day. I 0:16:33.800 --> 0:16:35.800 don't care how long Twitter has been around, how long 0:16:35.920 --> 0:16:38.680 Facebook has been around. We're not judged on the fact 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.000 that we're only six months old. We're judged to get 0:16:41.040 --> 0:16:43.280 what the current user experience is for these other big 0:16:43.280 --> 0:16:45.840 tech platforms. They've had a big head start on us, 0:16:45.840 --> 0:16:47.600 but we have to catch up. That's why right now, 0:16:47.840 --> 0:16:50.640 that's say we're a marketplace competitor to Twitter and Facebook. 0:16:50.720 --> 0:16:52.600 When we launch a vision, which will be our short 0:16:52.720 --> 0:16:56.440 video format that competes directly with TikTok with Instagram reels, 0:16:56.440 --> 0:16:58.880 we're launching that in February, then that's going to make 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:02.239 us competitors to them help with a whole new demographic 0:17:02.240 --> 0:17:04.760 of younger folks are coming on the platform. And then 0:17:04.920 --> 0:17:07.040 where we go next, where we go and launch get 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:11.480 ter pay, our two coin ecosystem with essentially a stable 0:17:11.520 --> 0:17:14.200 coin and a fluctuating coin. We launched that this summer. 0:17:14.400 --> 0:17:15.879 We're going to go a place where none of these 0:17:15.960 --> 0:17:18.600 social media platforms have gone before. And as we get 0:17:18.640 --> 0:17:21.359 into decentralized finance, we get to the peer to peer lending, 0:17:21.680 --> 0:17:23.879 all sorts of cool stuff that's coming that's going to 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:27.040 completely set us apart. But the other thing that I 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:30.000 always say, make our team remember every single day is 0:17:30.000 --> 0:17:32.600 we're guided by a simple principle that if you believe 0:17:32.640 --> 0:17:35.359 in free speech and you oppose cancel culture, then you 0:17:35.400 --> 0:17:37.720 have a home here. It doesn't matter what someone's background 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:40.040 or their ideology. If they're on the left, they're on 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:42.400 the right, they don't care about politics at all. We're 0:17:42.440 --> 0:17:45.360 guided by that principle that free speech has to have 0:17:45.760 --> 0:17:48.600 a safe space and that's here on getter. Okay, so 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.600 gettor is somewhat similar as it stands right now to Twitter. 0:17:51.840 --> 0:17:54.040 I am full disclosure, probably just said it's the first 0:17:54.040 --> 0:17:57.240 segment I'm on Getter. I use Getter similar in some 0:17:57.280 --> 0:18:00.120 ways to Twitter. What's different about it for the folks 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:04.919 out there? Absolutely so. Number one, we have longer posts 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:08.160 up to seven hundred and seventy seven characters, Longer videos 0:18:08.240 --> 0:18:10.760 were now up to three minute videos. We also have 0:18:10.920 --> 0:18:14.000 live streaming now that we've started introducing that in the 0:18:14.040 --> 0:18:17.160 beta stage, so folks who are verified users, we've started 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:19.399 to allow a couple dozen folks using that. Some of 0:18:19.400 --> 0:18:22.280 the live streams have got some pretty big audiences so far. 0:18:23.240 --> 0:18:25.879 Where we're also going to is very surely will allow 0:18:25.880 --> 0:18:30.080 an edit feature, as well as the fact that that'll 0:18:30.119 --> 0:18:31.479 be one of the big things, but you won't have 0:18:31.520 --> 0:18:33.679 to like Twitter blue pain and extra three ninety nine 0:18:33.760 --> 0:18:35.440 or four ninety nine a month. We're gonna make that 0:18:35.440 --> 0:18:37.879 available to everybody, as well as some longer videos a 0:18:37.880 --> 0:18:40.159 little bit closer to ten minutes. So we have some 0:18:40.240 --> 0:18:42.240 really good features right now every thing too. I think 0:18:42.240 --> 0:18:45.359 our translate feature is much easier to use. And here's 0:18:45.359 --> 0:18:48.080 a cool thing, buck. When you set up your Twitter account, 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.200 excuse you set your Getter account, you can actually import 0:18:52.400 --> 0:18:56.080 in all of your tweets because that's your intellectual property. 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:58.560 The platforms don't actually own that, and so when you 0:18:58.600 --> 0:19:00.879 set up Getter, you can poured in all your tweets 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:03.760 that helped populate your timeline. So whether you have memes 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:06.480 or videos or recordings or other things, then you have 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:08.520 a backup of that that's all going to come with you. 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:11.280 It's a feature. A lot of folks really like that's 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.440 really cool. I got to use that one. Well kind 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:15.959 of growth have you seen since you actually launched get 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:20.600 or Jason? Absolutely so, we're the fastest ever social media platform. 0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:22.320 We get to a million users. We did that in 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:24.560 three days. Then over the course of the last few 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:27.000 months we got up to three million users, and then 0:19:27.119 --> 0:19:31.200 literally just over this past week, we added on about 0:19:31.240 --> 0:19:34.240 one point one or one point two million users following 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:38.439 the editions of folks like doctor Malone and Marger Taylor 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:41.040 Green and Joe Rogan and now Tucker Carlson. So we're 0:19:41.040 --> 0:19:44.520 now up over four million users on the platform. Here's 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:46.960 another cool thing, and this is another principle that I 0:19:47.000 --> 0:19:48.479 put down at the beginning. I said, this is going 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:50.520 to be a global platform. If we're going to grow 0:19:50.520 --> 0:19:53.960 and really take on Twitter and Facebook and Instagram TikTok, 0:19:54.040 --> 0:19:55.800 we have to go global. We've got to be big. 0:19:56.080 --> 0:19:58.560 Only about forty percent of our user base is here 0:19:58.600 --> 0:20:01.280 in the US, about sixty percent is global, with about 0:20:01.280 --> 0:20:04.600 fifteen percent and excuse me in Brazil, about ten percent 0:20:04.640 --> 0:20:07.080 in Japan. So this truly is a global free speech 0:20:07.119 --> 0:20:12.080 effort right now. Now, what kind of resistance have you 0:20:12.119 --> 0:20:16.480 faced from the rival big tech oligarchs out there, and 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:18.600 what are you expecting that they're going to do as 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:23.040 you guys continue to gain steam and momentum. Well, we've 0:20:23.040 --> 0:20:25.119 seen already in some of the early stages that Twitter 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.399 was actually buying ads off of us. So if you 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.560 went to the app store and typed in get Her, 0:20:30.040 --> 0:20:32.560 an ad for Twitter would pop up, which they did 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.679 that when we're only about one or two million users, 0:20:34.680 --> 0:20:37.200 So we could tell that we shook them quite a bit. Also, 0:20:37.600 --> 0:20:40.439 as we started talking about some of the advancements and 0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:43.200 get Her and some of the new features, we've noticed 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.120 that Twitter has gotten a lot more aggressive in saying 0:20:46.119 --> 0:20:48.920 that they're going to offer different premiums and different features. 0:20:49.160 --> 0:20:50.840 And so we've definitely lit a fire in them because 0:20:50.840 --> 0:20:53.399 Twitter hasn't had any real advancements in quite a while, 0:20:53.600 --> 0:20:55.720 but where they have gone as far as on their 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.880 spaces front with doing kind of the they essentially did 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:02.280 kind of a rip off a clubhouse is different from 0:21:02.320 --> 0:21:04.240 we're going on the video front. I think the video 0:21:04.280 --> 0:21:06.480 front is going to be more successful. I think that 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:09.119 the otherwise, I think Clubhouse would have taken off and 0:21:09.160 --> 0:21:12.560 been a big ginormous success on its own. But I 0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.120 think the video feature is something that I mean, look, 0:21:15.359 --> 0:21:18.000 look at your platform. You're on video and that's that's 0:21:18.040 --> 0:21:21.239 where so much of the action the interest is in 0:21:21.280 --> 0:21:23.960 these days. So we actually kind of sit back and 0:21:24.040 --> 0:21:26.000