1 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Hey, Welcome in to a Colts Overtime podcast here on 2 00:00:07,360 --> 00:00:10,480 Speaker 1: Polts dot com and the Colts Audio Network on Matt Taylor, 3 00:00:10,560 --> 00:00:15,960 Speaker 1: Lara Overton in the Indiana Union Construction Industry or radio studio. Lara, 4 00:00:16,040 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: we're talking to Colts coaching staff. Everything's solidified right now, 5 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: it's officially official. A stay saying, well, we knew last 6 00:00:23,000 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: week when we were at the Combine that Shane Steiken 7 00:00:25,280 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: was trying to shore up a lot of those loosens 8 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: and finalize those coaching hires as he was also evaluating 9 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,800 Speaker 1: the prospects coming through the straft. So it's been quick 10 00:00:33,880 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 1: work for him immediately hit the ground running, you know, 11 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: with everything that he's trying to do. One of the 12 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: things he didn't have to worry about, though, Matt was 13 00:00:40,920 --> 00:00:43,960 Speaker 1: the defensive side of the ball. He already had that 14 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: experience with Gus Bradley, so that was a major advantage 15 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:50,879 Speaker 1: for him to be able to know what he was 16 00:00:50,920 --> 00:00:55,480 Speaker 1: walking into, have that side of things already solidified under 17 00:00:55,520 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: Gus Bradley, and then really be able to focus on 18 00:00:58,600 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: building his offensive staff and then also hiring a special 19 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,680 Speaker 1: team's cordination, no doubt about it. So let's talk about it. 20 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 1: Everything is official from the Colts angle, So here's what's 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: going on. Jim Bob Cooter has been hired as offensive coordinator. 22 00:01:11,160 --> 00:01:13,640 Speaker 1: Tom Manning is in as tight ends coach. He was 23 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: on the Colts coaching staff in twenty eighteen in the 24 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: same capacity before he left for the college level. Brian Mason, 25 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: speaking of the college level, he's now the special teams coordinator. 26 00:01:23,520 --> 00:01:27,240 Speaker 1: He comes from Notre Dame. DeAndre Smith running backs coach. 27 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: Tony Sperrano Junior is in now as the offensive line 28 00:01:30,959 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: coach under Shane Steiken. Cam Turner quarterbacks coach Chris Watt, 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 1: former Notre Dame guard. By the way, he's the assistant 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Additionally, now Brent Jackson has been elevated 31 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: to defensive quality control coach. Richard Smith will be the 32 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:49,600 Speaker 1: linebackers coach and the running game coordinator on the defensive 33 00:01:49,600 --> 00:01:52,680 Speaker 1: side of the football. Brian Bratton has been moved to 34 00:01:52,720 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: the offensive quality control coach with a focus on wide receivers, 35 00:01:57,120 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 1: and Reggie Wayne is back as the wide receivers coach 36 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:02,120 Speaker 1: on the offensive side of the football. He's the only 37 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 1: offensive position coach that was retained from the Frank Reich 38 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,560 Speaker 1: staff under Shane Steike, And so let's start with the 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,679 Speaker 1: changes on offense layer Jim Bob Cooter offensive coordinator. We 40 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: talked about him a few weeks back on the Official 41 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 1: Colts Podcast, But what are the Colts getting now in 42 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 1: Couter as the offensive coordinator working hand in hand obviously 43 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 1: with Shane Steike, who's going to call the plays on offense. 44 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: I believe one of the things that was intriguing to 45 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 1: Shane steik in is how well those two would work 46 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 1: together and having an aligned vision for what you want 47 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: to do with this offense. They originally cross paths in 48 00:02:37,040 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Philadelphia correct from twenty twenty one, and then Jim Bob 49 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:45,000 Speaker 1: spent last season with Jacksonville as their passing game coordinator. Hey, 50 00:02:45,160 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: just looking at those two seasons alone kind of helps 51 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: solidify me with how innovative he can be in some 52 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: of the roles in game planning, in particular, we know 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken will continue to call plays. So those are 54 00:02:58,720 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 1: some of the nuances that you always have to figure 55 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: out with an offensive coordinator, but a head coach who's 56 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: calling those offensive plays and how those won't marry. So 57 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 1: I think that it's really important to know and have 58 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:12,359 Speaker 1: an established dynamic within those two roles and how they 59 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: work hand in hand. So I like that those two 60 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 1: have the rapport coming in and that they're able to 61 00:03:18,200 --> 00:03:22,959 Speaker 1: bring in, you know, similar mindsets, but also different nuances 62 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,480 Speaker 1: to their scheme. Being that Jim Bob has had a 63 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: number of different snops across his career prior to that. 64 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:31,480 Speaker 1: Shane brings a ton of experience from working in the 65 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: Chargers organization prior to Philadelphia. So it'll be interesting maybe 66 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 1: how they both put different wrinkles into this offensive system. Yeah, 67 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 1: and he, just like Shane Steichen, has worked with a 68 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:45,000 Speaker 1: lot of different quarterbacks and different offenses. And he's mad. 69 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:46,880 Speaker 1: He's made at work. I mean, got his start with 70 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the Colts right back in two thousand and nine to 71 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: two eleven, towards the tail end of Peyton Manning's tenure 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis. Obviously worked with Peyton Manning again in twenty 73 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: thirteen with the Denver Broncos, and Peyton said, hey, bro, 74 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:01,800 Speaker 1: you're you're coming here. I think I want you. Note 75 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,240 Speaker 1: is that is how well regarded and respected that he 76 00:04:05,360 --> 00:04:07,839 Speaker 1: is by Peyton Manning. That's a guy who you want 77 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: in your building. You know, if you're going through in 78 00:04:09,920 --> 00:04:13,120 Speaker 1: a typical job interview, if you're like, all right, who 79 00:04:13,120 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: are your recommendations? You know, if it's a coaching wait 80 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,920 Speaker 1: number eighteen, you know you got Matthew Stafford. As you said, 81 00:04:22,920 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 1: they crossed over Stiken and Jim Bob Cooter in twenty 82 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: twenty one when Cooter was a consultant with the Eagles. 83 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 1: So has intimate knowledge of the Jalen Hurd's experience last 84 00:04:32,600 --> 00:04:35,560 Speaker 1: year passing game coordinator with the Jaguars with Trevor Lawrence. 85 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: So important with those two developing two young quarterbacks succession 86 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: in two different making them feel comfortable, right, getting them 87 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: established in the NFL if the Colts decide to go 88 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 1: that route in the draft. So he knows accountability. He's 89 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 1: gonna grow guys. He's going to continue to develop guys. 90 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,240 Speaker 1: But he's been a play caller in the NFL as well. 91 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 1: He's been an offensive coordinator with the Detroit Lions. So 92 00:04:57,400 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 1: he's going to help take some things off of Shane 93 00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:02,440 Speaker 1: Stiken's plate because he's the head coach. He's having to 94 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: worry about fifty six guys plus the practice squad during 95 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: the course of the week. He's going to help obviously 96 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: implement the game plan. He's going to run the offensive 97 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,159 Speaker 1: meetings during the course of the week. So a lot 98 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: of people say, well, he's not calling the plays, what 99 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:18,880 Speaker 1: does an offensive coordinator do? Well, there's obviously a lot 100 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: more to that than people realize. As far as collaboration, 101 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 1: how is that going to work with Jim Bob Cooter, 102 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,240 Speaker 1: Shane Steike and who else is involved with the game 103 00:05:29,279 --> 00:05:31,359 Speaker 1: plan on offense throughout the course of the week. I 104 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: think you're certainly gonna have Cam Turner involved in that 105 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,039 Speaker 1: without question. And Reggie Wayne, He's that one, you know, 106 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: piece of continuity that you have carry over. And you 107 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: look at how impressive of a job Reggie did in 108 00:05:44,880 --> 00:05:48,159 Speaker 1: his rookie season as a coach with a very young 109 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:52,120 Speaker 1: inexperience for the most part, receiver corep when you had, 110 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: you know, guys like Alec Pearce in their rookie years. 111 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,480 Speaker 1: You have a developing Michael Pittman who came off of 112 00:05:57,520 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: a strong twenty twenty one and followed up with a 113 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 1: really good twenty twenty two. You had Paris Campbell, who 114 00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 1: hadn't put together a full season in his entire NFL career, 115 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: had the year of his life, and that's so much 116 00:06:08,640 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: credit to Reggie Wayne. But I do think that in 117 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,480 Speaker 1: terms of the schematic standpoint game planning, I think Cam 118 00:06:14,480 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: Turner will be integral in that. One thing worth noting 119 00:06:17,279 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: that I think will be interesting though for Colts fans. 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 1: As we're talking about Reggie Wayne, you know you talked 121 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: about Brian Bratton being in that role as well behind 122 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: her in compliment to Reggie. One of the things that 123 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 1: coach Brotton did in this offseason, he was one of 124 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:35,840 Speaker 1: the coaches on the Senior Bowl staff and heavily involved 125 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,799 Speaker 1: in coaching the wide receiver group. One of the wide 126 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: receivers that he worked with Jaylen Wayne, Reggie's nephew, and 127 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: there's a huge reason that he has escalated in terms 128 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: of catching a lot of attention from scouts over the 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 1: past few weeks because he had an outstanding performance over 130 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: the course of the week at the Senior Bowl. So 131 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:56,640 Speaker 1: I love that. I love that tandem and that they 132 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,000 Speaker 1: have that correlation in there as well, and I think 133 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 1: that that helped Bratton really grow in his role as 134 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:04,479 Speaker 1: well in sit Colts to realize what they'd be able 135 00:07:04,560 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: to do in retaining him and in a different capacity. Yeah, 136 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,320 Speaker 1: so no doubt it's gonna be Stike in it's going 137 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:12,520 Speaker 1: to be Jim, Bob Cootter, Cam Turner, the quarterbacks. Mentioned 138 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: the wealth of experience of quarterbacks that he has as well. 139 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't think that there is a quarterback 140 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: style out there that between Stike yet Turner that you 141 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,760 Speaker 1: haven't seen, right, Yeah, I mean Turner dealing with the 142 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:28,480 Speaker 1: Arizona aspect of things with Kyler Murray and then you 143 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:31,679 Speaker 1: know with the Panthers and Cam Newton. So yeah, whichever 144 00:07:31,840 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 1: direction the Colts hypothetically go a quarterback in the draft, again, 145 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 1: if they decide to do that, the Cults are going 146 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:39,960 Speaker 1: to have their bases covered with a lot of different 147 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: experiences on this coaching staff, working with players with quarterbacks 148 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 1: and prior stops that have similar skill sets. Now, one 149 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: of the things that has been pointed out of the 150 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: five offensive position coaches new guys coming in at quarterback, 151 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: the running backs, coach wide receivers, coach tight in an 152 00:08:00,680 --> 00:08:05,120 Speaker 1: offensive line, those coaches, respectfully, Lara have combined to be 153 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: a full time position coach in the NFL for only 154 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 1: five seasons. Now. The reason I bring that up is, 155 00:08:12,280 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 1: you say, okay, that's that's true. But also, I mean 156 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: Reggie Wayne. Regie Wayne has played fourteen years in the NFL. 157 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: He's a future Hall of Famer. Right, He's coming from 158 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: one staff to the to the other. I understand that, 159 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: but he's still Reggie Wayne. Tom Manning has been an 160 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at the college level for the last four years. 161 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:34,120 Speaker 1: Tony Sperrano Junior comes from obviously a great football background 162 00:08:34,120 --> 00:08:36,840 Speaker 1: of football family. His dad was a head coach in 163 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 1: the NFL. He's been in the NFL himself since twenty 164 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,040 Speaker 1: eleven as a coach. He's been an assistant offensive line 165 00:08:43,040 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 1: coach for the last six years. I'm assuming he knows 166 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:48,439 Speaker 1: what he's talking about Cam Turner. As we said, he's 167 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 1: been an assistant quarterbacks coach, a passing game coordinator in 168 00:08:51,840 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 1: the NFL. Right, So what does that tell you about 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: the staff that Shane Steiken has put together on the 170 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: offensive side of the ball. He's got experience, but guys 171 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: are graduating into bigger roles, if you will. I think 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 1: it is when he was going through the process of 173 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:14,080 Speaker 1: interviewing all of these guys, does this does this coach? 174 00:09:14,160 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 1: Does this candidate have the mentality we know he harped 175 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: on tenacity, the vision, the passion, the accountability. Are those 176 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:27,480 Speaker 1: all checking the boxes? Because sure there are differences going 177 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:30,360 Speaker 1: from being in college football to being in the NFL, 178 00:09:30,720 --> 00:09:33,040 Speaker 1: but the principles remain the same. And a lot of 179 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 1: these guys are young, right, they're in their mid forties 180 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 1: or equals staff, right, you know, the last two years 181 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:42,319 Speaker 1: was incredibly young and thinking a couple of different things 182 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 1: to note within that conversation. When Tom Manning was here 183 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,520 Speaker 1: in eighteen, that was one of the best seasons of 184 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: a tight end group in cults history, right, single season 185 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: franchise record with twenty one touchdown receptions. You know, that 186 00:09:57,800 --> 00:10:01,280 Speaker 1: was incredibly od Eric ebron Jack oil that year of course, 187 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: and then also looking at Sperrano, this is something that 188 00:10:05,880 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: I learned last week being around the Combine. He was 189 00:10:08,960 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: in here and a lot of these guys were already 190 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: in the mix and they jumped into they were hands 191 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 1: on at the combine and they were allowing different position 192 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,320 Speaker 1: group coaches to meet with the respective prospects who they 193 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: would be coaching. Sperrano was all in on those offensive linemen, 194 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, talking technique, talking execution, all of those things. 195 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 1: So he's a very like I'm saying fiery in terms 196 00:10:35,280 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: of definitely like you know, fist in the dirt, wants 197 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:40,560 Speaker 1: to be hands on, you know, which is which I 198 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: think is what you're getting from the characteristics were seeing 199 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 1: of a lot of these young coaches. And you know 200 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,240 Speaker 1: the other thing with the experience level. Remember a year 201 00:10:49,280 --> 00:10:52,880 Speaker 1: ago when Nate Alie came in as the defensive line 202 00:10:52,920 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: coach and he hadn't been a full time position group 203 00:10:56,280 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 1: coach when he walked in the door. Colts got forty 204 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 1: five sacks last year. I mean that's something, right, So 205 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: I think that there's something to be said for showing 206 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:07,400 Speaker 1: with the experience and how well Nate was able to 207 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: connect with his group, with a group of players who 208 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: he had, and how well they responded to him. All 209 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:16,840 Speaker 1: of the twenties. Good stuff right there. That's Lara Overtson. 210 00:11:16,960 --> 00:11:21,600 Speaker 1: She's working overtime here on the Colts official podcast channel 211 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: and the Colts Audio Network. As you said, the Colts 212 00:11:24,720 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: are bringing back some continuity on the defensive side of 213 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: the ball. Gus Bradley and his staff is coming back. 214 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,440 Speaker 1: That includes defensive backs coach Ron Milas, defensive line coach 215 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,439 Speaker 1: Nate ali As. You just alluded to and then linebackers 216 00:11:37,480 --> 00:11:40,880 Speaker 1: coach Richard Smith. Last year, of course, the Colts defense 217 00:11:40,920 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: finished eleventh and passing yards allowed per game and they 218 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: allowed just over four yards per carry that was fifth 219 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: in the NFL. Lara, how important was it for the 220 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: Colts to bring back at least one half of the 221 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 1: coaching staff intact, you do have some continuity to help 222 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: build some things quickly under shame in love to Regie. 223 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: Let's give it to Kato June two, because he's back 224 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 1: in that so in an important capacity. A couple of 225 00:12:06,559 --> 00:12:09,199 Speaker 1: things I really like about this one just from the 226 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,559 Speaker 1: turnover that this team had when you lost Matt Eberflus 227 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,360 Speaker 1: for the Chicago head coaching job, you brought Gus in. 228 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: It is nice that these guys are going to have 229 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 1: consecutive seasons within that same scheme. And we heard it 230 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: from a lot of these guys, veteran defensive players. The 231 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 1: scheme was a big adjustment for a lot of these 232 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: guys played football their entire lives. But there were a 233 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: lot of intricacies of this defense that took guys time 234 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: to get used to and ways that they had to 235 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: adapt how they've typically been playing and all of that, 236 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: So it'll be really interesting to see having that continuity, 237 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 1: having that foundation where they can leap from there. I 238 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,920 Speaker 1: think that that's a group that you will see start 239 00:12:46,960 --> 00:12:50,320 Speaker 1: the season even faster than they did in twenty two. 240 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: The other thing that I like about it is Shane 241 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:56,319 Speaker 1: Steiken has a defensive coordinator who's previously been a head coach, 242 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 1: So there are things where maybe there's yeah, hey, maybe 243 00:12:59,720 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: there's a situation that he's like, hey, Gus, what would 244 00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: you do in this? Or I'm really trying to hammer 245 00:13:05,080 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: home X point or this is you know what we're 246 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: trying to establish us the tone for the week, or 247 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:13,679 Speaker 1: whatever it is. Gus is a fantastic sounding board for 248 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: those things, and I think that that is going to 249 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,880 Speaker 1: be something that's advantageous not only for Shane Steken, but 250 00:13:19,960 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: for this entire coaching staff as well to have a 251 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: group because you mentioned how young a lot of these 252 00:13:26,080 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 1: offensive coaching hires are. In compliment too, that it's a 253 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: really veteran savvy defensive side of the ball, with that 254 00:13:33,679 --> 00:13:38,439 Speaker 1: crew of Bradley, Milas and Smith having spent decades at 255 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: different points in their careers. All right, well, let's quickly 256 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,640 Speaker 1: talk about some of the foundational things that you brought up. 257 00:13:43,679 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: What are some of those things the Colts can build 258 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: off of going into to next season. For me, Lair, 259 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 1: I point to for the most part, the defense played 260 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 1: like a playoff caliber unit for most of the season. 261 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,240 Speaker 1: Certainly there towards the end of the season things sort 262 00:13:57,240 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: of fell off. I mean the last eight games the 263 00:13:59,520 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 1: Colts game up over thirty points per game, did a 264 00:14:03,160 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: nice job of developing the front. Sure, Like you mentioned 265 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:10,240 Speaker 1: the sacks, I mean over forty sacks, highest sack total 266 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: for the Colts as the franchise as a team since 267 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:14,720 Speaker 1: two thousand and five. Obviously, you're gonna have to do 268 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:17,439 Speaker 1: a better job of closing out games in the fourth quarter. 269 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: You held a fourth quarter lead I think in four 270 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 1: of the last seven games, unable to close those out, 271 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 1: finished the game or finished the season thirty first in 272 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:29,640 Speaker 1: fourth quarter points allowed, thirty second, dead last in the 273 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:33,560 Speaker 1: NFL in red zone defense. But for the most part 274 00:14:33,640 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: you did see growth. I mean, I think from a 275 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 1: comfort level, Grover Stewart really feels comfortable in this defense. 276 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 1: Zaire Franklin certainly emerged with Shack Leonard situation. You could 277 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: say the same thing about e J. Speed. He's a 278 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:50,160 Speaker 1: free agent, but he really liked this defense. And then 279 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: Stefan Gilmour had a I hate to work use the 280 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,480 Speaker 1: word renaissance, but just I mean a career high and 281 00:14:56,760 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: number of snaps and just really thrived made some game 282 00:15:00,880 --> 00:15:05,480 Speaker 1: changing and game ending plays from his cornerback position on defense. 283 00:15:05,560 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: What else tells you that the Colts are on the 284 00:15:07,480 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: right track defensively under Gus Bradley, even though they had 285 00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: those blips on the radar. I really liked and pointed 286 00:15:13,680 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: to in a conversation earlier this week, the development of 287 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:19,000 Speaker 1: guys like Rodney Thomas the Second, I mean the season 288 00:15:19,040 --> 00:15:21,280 Speaker 1: that he had last year, I think is very indicative 289 00:15:21,320 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: of what that secondary can do in a second year together, 290 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: playing in compliment to one another. What you're going to 291 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 1: get out of that group. You have Stephan you know, 292 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,480 Speaker 1: as the former defensive Player of the Year, He's been 293 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: an All Pro numerous times of the course of his career. 294 00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: And then what are these young guys that are surrounding 295 00:15:38,840 --> 00:15:42,800 Speaker 1: him doing as well? Isaiah Rodgers, Julian Blackman, Rodney Thomas 296 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: the Second. Excited to see what that defensive backs group 297 00:15:46,320 --> 00:15:48,400 Speaker 1: can do in another year, together. I would like to 298 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 1: see more takeaways, yeah, in the upcoming season. Finishing second 299 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: in twenty one last year nineteenth, Yeah, and exst shock 300 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:59,280 Speaker 1: Leonard is a big reason for having drop off, right, 301 00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: I do think that you can see more productivity from 302 00:16:03,200 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: that group, and then you just want to see you 303 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:07,800 Speaker 1: did see them. One of the things that I think 304 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: was a bright spot for me is up until the 305 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: very end of the season for a number of different issues, 306 00:16:15,040 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: you saw them close out games so well, you know, 307 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,560 Speaker 1: and you mentioned Stefan and game clinching plays. I'm thinking 308 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 1: about obviously wins at Kansas City, the win at Denver, 309 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: the win in Las Vegas, all of those situations where 310 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 1: it was on the defense. I even want to say, 311 00:16:31,960 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: you know, the Jacksonville win at home too. Defense was 312 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: huge in that fourth quarter. So those were some of 313 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 1: the things to me that are like, this defense is 314 00:16:40,240 --> 00:16:42,360 Speaker 1: on the right track. They just got to give themselves 315 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: a little bit more time and just be able to 316 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: get some of those guys healthy to have that unit completion. 317 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the third phase of the game, 318 00:16:53,960 --> 00:16:57,000 Speaker 1: close out and talk about Brian Mason, Notre Dame special 319 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: teams coordinator. He's been in the college level for fifteen years. 320 00:17:01,120 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: He's coming up. He's going to replace Bubba Ventrone, who 321 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 1: we know joined the Brown staff a few weeks back. 322 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 1: But last year, one year at Notre Dame. Before that, 323 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: he was at Cincinnati. But for the Irish last year, 324 00:17:13,800 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 1: Notre Dame blocked seven punts. That's not a typo. I 325 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:21,119 Speaker 1: did not say that incorrectly. They blocked seven punts in 326 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:25,159 Speaker 1: one year after they blocked only six punts in the 327 00:17:25,320 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 1: previous ten years combined. So this guy legitimately one of 328 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:33,360 Speaker 1: the best assistant coaches in the nation last year. He's 329 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,760 Speaker 1: a Zionsville native, So he's on record saying and hopefully 330 00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:38,280 Speaker 1: we get a chance to talk with him in the 331 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,640 Speaker 1: next couple of days, the next couple of weeks as 332 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:42,600 Speaker 1: he gets his feet with but he said, this is 333 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:44,639 Speaker 1: like a dream job for him. He's a who's year. 334 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 1: He grew up about twenty five minutes from where we're 335 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:51,200 Speaker 1: talking right now, Lara. With Mason coming from the college game, 336 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: what's the learning curve he's going to have to deal 337 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 1: with now in the NFL for the first time. One 338 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,080 Speaker 1: really interesting to take a little d two here quickly. 339 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 1: You know, I can't wait to talk about coach Mason 340 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:05,040 Speaker 1: Alec Pierce. They were together at the University of Cincinnati, Cincinnati, 341 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 1: and Alec was a poor special teamer before he developed 342 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: into one of their more prominent wide receivers. So I'm 343 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: excited to see those two reunite. Yeah, he was on 344 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 1: that staff that went to the college football player. I'm 345 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: excited to talk to each of them about one another. 346 00:18:21,119 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: But you know, I think that for him this is 347 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,240 Speaker 1: going to be it's again. You do have some continuity 348 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 1: because Joe Hastings is retained in his assistant special team's 349 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: coordinator role, so he will be able to lean on 350 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: Coach Hastings to kind of blend some things over but 351 00:18:36,080 --> 00:18:39,240 Speaker 1: then also add a bit of his style into things 352 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 1: and areas where this has been such a strong defensive 353 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,919 Speaker 1: unit year after year under Bubba Ventrone. Okay, what are 354 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 1: more interesting things that he can do or that he's 355 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: noticed or that he found success in and how do 356 00:18:51,480 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 1: those translate from the college game to the NFL. You know, 357 00:18:54,880 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 1: we talk with Rick vent Cherry so often about what 358 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: as a defensive coach as is what you learn about 359 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: the college game and how they start to evolve the 360 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: pro game around what guys are doing in college and 361 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: so you have to kind of the offensive side tends 362 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,239 Speaker 1: to evolve a little bit more quickly. And then as 363 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator, we've for gusts to you're trying to 364 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: catch up and you're trying to stay ahead. Okay, Similarly, 365 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 1: from a special team's perspective, what are the things that 366 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: allow them to be so successful, especially in punt blocking 367 00:19:24,920 --> 00:19:27,240 Speaker 1: because that was a huge area of pride when you 368 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: think about for the Colts and what they were able 369 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: to do. Remember a couple of years ago when you 370 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: had that EJ. Speed, TJ. Kerry and then EJ Speed, 371 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: Zire Franklin block punt touchdowns. Since twenty eighteen, you're already 372 00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: playing into the strength of the guys that you have 373 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,840 Speaker 1: with bringing a lot of those guys back. I'm really 374 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,520 Speaker 1: interested though for him, no matter what you bring in, 375 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 1: what are you doing it at kicker? Are you bringing 376 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:55,240 Speaker 1: back Chase McLoughlin. What's the situation whereas Rigo Sanchez in 377 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:58,280 Speaker 1: his recovery. As you're a punter, you have Luke Rhodes 378 00:19:58,320 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: as you know kind of approach, Yeah, allpro snapper, who 379 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: is the core of that unit? And then this team 380 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,360 Speaker 1: has done such a good job of developing everyone else 381 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:10,639 Speaker 1: around it. When you talk about, you know, the linebackers 382 00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,120 Speaker 1: who have come in and played as core special teamers. 383 00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 1: You've had so many receivers who have been integral in 384 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: the success of that group as well from the return standpoint. 385 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see what personnel he has 386 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,960 Speaker 1: to build four going into twenties. And as we know, 387 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,240 Speaker 1: special teams units, during the course of the season, they're 388 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: so fluid because you have roster bump ups, you have injuries, 389 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:34,280 Speaker 1: and this guy can't play or now he needs to 390 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,960 Speaker 1: be a starter on either offense or defense. So you 391 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: have to know the entire personnel and the talent of 392 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,399 Speaker 1: all fifty three guys that are made available to you 393 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,120 Speaker 1: or in this case, forty six guys that are made 394 00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 1: available to you on game day because you never know 395 00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: when a guy's going to go down or you need 396 00:20:50,359 --> 00:20:53,080 Speaker 1: to replace a gunner and so on and so forth. 397 00:20:53,160 --> 00:20:55,880 Speaker 1: He's obviously going to be a big, you know, determining 398 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: factor in you know, after the draft with undrafted free agents, 399 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: guy that have huge special teams traits, and then certainly 400 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: at the end of the preseason, who makes the final 401 00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: roster to be a core special And what's great is 402 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,120 Speaker 1: he's seen these guys firsthand spending the last few years 403 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 1: in college. He's either schemed for him or had them 404 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,840 Speaker 1: at one stop or another exactly. So he's going to 405 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: be more knowledgeable than anyone. He'll he'll have to do 406 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: some homework, but he's gonna be able to be like, 407 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:23,600 Speaker 1: all right, you know, we played this guy from Boston 408 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: College or whatever it is, and has some basis moving forward. 409 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: Another thing that JJ pointed out, and I I love this. 410 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: I think this is indicative. And you know, this is 411 00:21:32,600 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: different going from college to the NFL, but when he 412 00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:40,240 Speaker 1: was at Notre Dame, guys were clamoring and campaigning starters, 413 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,359 Speaker 1: campaigning to want to play on special teams because of 414 00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,359 Speaker 1: how much they wanted to contribute and how much they 415 00:21:45,480 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: enjoyed playing for him. A little bit different, of course, 416 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 1: when you're talking about the NFL and you got to 417 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: protect yourself a little bit more. But I do think 418 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,399 Speaker 1: that gives you an indication of the type of coach 419 00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:58,440 Speaker 1: he is and why players are going to play hard 420 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 1: for him. And for that, gred going to be fun 421 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: to see who is the next George Odom, Who's the 422 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 1: next Dallas Flowers or Zach Pascal or Aire Franklin Ashton 423 00:22:08,520 --> 00:22:10,880 Speaker 1: del and all of these guys have either been all 424 00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: pro players on special teams, or there are guys that 425 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 1: have been able to carve out enough of a niche 426 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:20,560 Speaker 1: on special teams to stick around, get second contracts, and 427 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,119 Speaker 1: then turn into mainstays in the case of Zay or 428 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: Franklin Zach Pascal, on either offense or defense. So the 429 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: Colts have been great on special teams and hopefully they 430 00:22:30,200 --> 00:22:33,520 Speaker 1: can continue that. As Brian Mason now is in as 431 00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 1: special teams coordinator coordinator, I should say layah good stuff 432 00:22:37,280 --> 00:22:39,399 Speaker 1: on the coaching staff. If you're ready to roll with 433 00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: free agency next week, I'm ready to work overtime, how 434 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: about you? Right, we're already working overtime, it seems like, 435 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: but it's gonna be fun. What do they call that, 436 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: the legal tampering period on Monday, which is obviously oxy moron. 437 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,199 Speaker 1: That's going to start early next week, and then everything 438 00:22:55,359 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: is going to be official with the new league year 439 00:22:57,440 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: starting Wednesday, four o'clock Eastern time, with the start of 440 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: NFL free agency. So we're batting down the hatches here 441 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: and getting ready for all the NFL news that's seemingly 442 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,000 Speaker 1: already coming out here, fast and furious. So that's Layah Overton. 443 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 1: I'm Matt Taylor. 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