Speaker 1: When I point out it's for Jesus. Hey, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, Jack, like say, antagonized me because I'm a
Speaker 1: I'm a follower of Christ myself.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, Miles has some stories about his boy.
Speaker 1: Man. Look that's what I'm saying. Man, it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: just like Jesus got a lot of coupons too, because
Speaker 1: he saves. Also. You know, now, Greg, what you can't tell.
Speaker 2: Miles is wearing a bucket hat, so you can't tell
Speaker 2: that he just turned it around backwards. But it is
Speaker 2: on backwards, so he's.
Speaker 1: Let me, you're going to turn it around. It was
Speaker 1: just going to have a giant cross on the front.
Speaker 1: Let me wrap tea for a second. Let me just
Speaker 1: let me talk to you as Miles rather than pastor
Speaker 1: Miles for a second. Those clouds coming on them. Out of office.
Speaker 1: I was testing a new fog machine for our next
Speaker 1: service on Sunday. We're doing a little more you know,
Speaker 1: light production. It wasn't, I'm not. Don't look at the lasers, dude, don't.
Speaker 1: Why do they smell like chemicals? It smells like pinicle.
Speaker 1: It's vape juice, all right, you got me, got me,
Speaker 1: it's vaping. Vaving them fucking vapor for the Lord.
Speaker 2: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three forty four,
Speaker 2: Episode three of Joy Daily.
Speaker 1: Day production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we
Speaker 1: take a deep dive into America share consciousness.
Speaker 2: And it is Wednesday, June twenty sixth, twenty twenty four.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah man six two six two four, look shout out.
Speaker 3: To the what wait which one I knew? I knew
Speaker 3: you were fuck around with the last numbers, fuck around
Speaker 3: four eight fifteen sixteen twenty three forty two four eight
Speaker 3: fifteen sixteen twenty forty two.
Speaker 1: It's National Beautician's Day. It's National Chocolate pudding Day. It's
Speaker 1: National parchment Day. That's for people who like to cook
Speaker 1: on papillot, you know, cooking with parchment paper. National coconnut Day,
Speaker 1: National barcode Day. So wow, what a day. Barcode bar code, Yes,
Speaker 1: shut out the barcodes, shut out the bar codes to
Speaker 1: cold chocolate pitting name Jack O'Brien. You like Jack? You
Speaker 1: like Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: I like chocolate pudding.
Speaker 2: I like coconut the best of all the things.
Speaker 1: That Yeah, a coconut bitch. Okay, all right, you like
Speaker 1: chocolate pudding, but I'm a coconut bitch. I'm not sure thing.
Speaker 1: You know what I you know, have you ever bought
Speaker 1: coconut syrup? Yes, Jude, I put that on ship, and
Speaker 1: I put it on things that it shouldn't go on,
Speaker 1: and I then, yeah, it's great, like a hamburger. No, well,
Speaker 1: sweets good. Yeah, everything else it goes on, it should
Speaker 1: probably go on.
Speaker 2: My name is Jack O'Brien aka Come My Grimace, Come,
Speaker 2: Come My Grimace, win the baseball game before you finish.
Speaker 2: That is courtesy of Cleo Universe rest in p RIP
Speaker 2: two and I looked it up.
Speaker 1: Fifty shifty shell shock.
Speaker 2: Right, doesn't that have to way? At age forty nine?
Speaker 2: Yea the frontman of rap rock band Crazy Town, Yeah,
Speaker 2: who just passed away at age forty nine. One of
Speaker 2: the sickest baselines too.
Speaker 5: In that song.
Speaker 2: What was that song called counter Lady eure a butterfly
Speaker 2: not suck suck Yeah, yeah, what a song. The aesthetic
Speaker 2: of that video, oh yeah, so specific.
Speaker 1: And I think it was like the theme song for
Speaker 1: like Sierra mist or some shit or some right. I
Speaker 1: remember when that came out, it was like, oh.
Speaker 2: Fuck, theme song in my life. Every time I walked
Speaker 2: into a room. I wanted that playing in people's minds,
Speaker 2: and that's why I dressed like I did and got
Speaker 2: all those eyebrow piercings. I'm thrilled to be joined as
Speaker 2: always by my co host mister.
Speaker 1: Miles grass Is Miles Gray in honor of the Pringles
Speaker 1: Queen herself, Blair. So I gotta hit you at oh Pringles,
Speaker 1: in them morn in Pringles, in the evening, in Pringles,
Speaker 1: when you got a deadline, when you when you progress
Speaker 1: to and ain't on a project, eat cads of Pringles
Speaker 1: any time. And Blair famously said she'll eat two cans
Speaker 1: of Pringles when she's working on something just to pass
Speaker 1: the time. And I respect a two can sam type,
Speaker 1: you know, dedication level like that from Blair. So shout
Speaker 1: out to you, Blair, and shout out to Peanut Buddy
Speaker 1: Brown on the discord for that. AKA.
Speaker 2: You remember the Pringles thing where they gave themselves a
Speaker 2: little duck bill, little Pringles duck bill.
Speaker 1: That's very hard to do, very hard to do.
Speaker 2: But they that gesture by that actor probably just like
Speaker 2: tossed off, you know, But I'm sure that wasn't like
Speaker 2: part of a focused group decision to do the duck bill, but.
Speaker 1: I always that's the one. The commercial that was took
Speaker 1: place on the beach, I believe, yes, And there's I
Speaker 1: identify with the guy who has the bag of lays
Speaker 1: and goes greasy not fun. Uh yeah, He's.
Speaker 2: Like, oh my fucking lays of the beach.
Speaker 1: I I can't believe how well I know that that
Speaker 1: fucking jingle pop up, Oh Mau mau, pop up, bring goals.
Speaker 1: Wow wow, I didn't. I didn't remember it. Once your
Speaker 1: fun the fun dolls. Once your pop the fun dolls stop.
Speaker 1: Greasy not fun anyway, So.
Speaker 2: Most of the day such like baby language, greasy, not fun.
Speaker 1: Because the guy was such a dork. He was like,
Speaker 1: oh man, I'm at the beach. I got a shirt on.
Speaker 1: They got fucking chip grease all over myself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, embarrassing, not me. That's how I oiled up. Oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why it was so golden Miles.
Speaker 1: Enough bullshit.
Speaker 2: We're thrilled to be joined once again by very funny
Speaker 2: comedian improviser you may know from the hilarious podcast.
Speaker 1: Mega and we got a new one.
Speaker 2: A new hilarious podcast is called Get It to Dutch Please,
Speaker 2: welcome Greg.
Speaker 1: Guys. This was like a real it was a real
Speaker 1: joy to listen to. It was almost like a clockwork
Speaker 1: orange reference audio reference levels to things that happened in
Speaker 1: the early two thousands that I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and that Pringles thing, yeah, it was it was you
Speaker 1: remember that, right? I do remember that? Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: remember that music video too. My god, was that like
Speaker 1: just watching CP yeah yeah yeah, Like.
Speaker 2: There were little like the lane flares happen in.
Speaker 1: All those screen flares.
Speaker 2: Deep contact with the camera from Shifty left at what
Speaker 2: what do we call them? Shifty? I thought it said
Speaker 2: shitty this morning. Wait, like, what a tough name? A
Speaker 2: shifty shell shock?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 2: I thought it said shitty shell Shock this morning. Was like,
Speaker 2: you know, it's a cool name until it's your obituary
Speaker 2: and then everyone's like, and we are today morning, shitty
Speaker 2: shell shock.
Speaker 1: But that's not right.
Speaker 2: It was Shifty and all right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, all right, man, that's a tough one because
Speaker 1: he was also like I remember he was always on
Speaker 1: like celebrity rehab and stuff, and he was like his
Speaker 1: latter day career was always like the due from crazy
Speaker 1: Town's kind of a fucking mess. Yeah, a little I'm
Speaker 1: sure not the best ending for him, but yes, a
Speaker 1: great song. Thank you for that.
Speaker 2: Also, what hr people call like a messed up situation?
Speaker 2: Crazy town in here, guys, everybody just needs to take
Speaker 2: a take a beat. Leave. But Greg, So, the last
Speaker 2: time you were on, which was pre pandemic days, we
Speaker 2: were talking about MEGA, which is an improvised comedic podcast
Speaker 2: about megachurches. Take us megachurch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're still jamming MEGA. It's been great. Yeah, if
Speaker 1: people want a little uh reprieve from constant evangelical Christianity
Speaker 1: seeping into your political and personal lives, come and make
Speaker 1: some hay with us on MEGA. It's a very fund
Speaker 1: improvised podcast.
Speaker 2: Or if you just want to break from your megachurch.
Speaker 2: You know you're spending all day every day at your megachurch.
Speaker 1: You want to know it's so weird, dude, We get
Speaker 1: people that come to it. Actually, somebody just messaged me
Speaker 1: yesterday and said they put on an episode in the
Speaker 1: car with their evangelical friend who was like, this is God,
Speaker 1: this is great. Yeah, as we were like trying trying
Speaker 1: to fake save someone on the podcast and every day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: where did these folks worship at? I'd love to go.
Speaker 1: I know what they're working with here, I know. So yeah,
Speaker 1: if even if you even if you want a fake
Speaker 1: worship experience, you can come join us over on Mega
Speaker 1: and then tell us about Get It to Dutch. We
Speaker 1: got a new iHeart podcast and uh, honestly, you know
Speaker 1: how when you when you make something and you you
Speaker 1: want to be like, ye, it's pretty good, you know,
Speaker 1: like uh, and you kind of try to downplay it.
Speaker 1: And I'm trying to do this thing in my life
Speaker 1: in general, which is look, you don't always have to
Speaker 1: be self deprecating, and this is one of those things
Speaker 1: to me, well of just like you know, when you
Speaker 1: make something and you're like, you know what, God damn it.
Speaker 1: I'm actually really excited and proud about this. Yeah. We
Speaker 1: have this new podcast and it's called Get It to Dutch,
Speaker 1: and it's basically me and my two best friends who
Speaker 1: I've done comedy with now for twenty years, ever since
Speaker 1: we came up in Chicago and Second City, And it's
Speaker 1: called Get It to Dutch because we play three struggling
Speaker 1: screenwriters who are trying to get a screenplay to a
Speaker 1: fictional producer named Dutch Huxley. And every week we come
Speaker 1: in and we read a piece of one of the
Speaker 1: screenplays that we think about sending to him, and so
Speaker 1: it's an improvised banter at the table, and then we
Speaker 1: get into it and we actually read pieces of these
Speaker 1: fake screenplays. Of course, as the series goes, the guy's
Speaker 1: lives are sort of falling apart. It's everything that we've
Speaker 1: gone through as comedy writers in la we sort of
Speaker 1: packed into this satire about trying to make it as
Speaker 1: a writer in Hollywood. So of course we're doing it
Speaker 1: from I put quotes around this where recording from mark
Speaker 1: shitty studio apartment in north North Hollywood, where we're all
Speaker 1: sitting on weight benches and looking at a scarface poster.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: We have Weird al Is plays, our entertainment lawyer on it.
Speaker 1: We got Tim Robinson. Tim Robinson, who's our longtime collaborator,
Speaker 1: plays basically the landlord of the building that Mark lives in,
Speaker 1: and got other great people Rob Huebel. It's it's been
Speaker 1: a real blast of real delight. So it's only twelve episodes.
Speaker 1: You can binge the whole thing. I think people will
Speaker 1: really like it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you like comedy bang bang like I do.
Speaker 2: You'll you'll really like this. Some great guest spots and
Speaker 2: it's just really very funny.
Speaker 1: Thank you, thank you. Yeah, So you know, I would
Speaker 1: I would, Uh, I would like to say that I'm
Speaker 1: actually proud of something for the first time maybe maybe
Speaker 1: in my life.
Speaker 2: Congratulation.
Speaker 1: Still trying to get that, trying to get that.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to Yeah, we're all chasing that. I'm still
Speaker 2: chasing that high of My kid.
Speaker 1: Can't kick a soccer ball one hundred yards yet, so
Speaker 1: I'm a little bit you know. But the cooling about
Speaker 1: kids is they're always like, look look what I could do,
Speaker 1: and you're like it's okay, Like kids aren't really that
Speaker 1: good at like they they are always down to be
Speaker 1: proud of something. So trying to channel good to encourage
Speaker 1: kids does that lower the bar. I was raised in
Speaker 1: a home where it was like call me up when
Speaker 1: you're in the league.
Speaker 3: Roh.
Speaker 1: Yeah you couldn't. You couldn't get that. You really had
Speaker 1: to prove yourself. Yeah, they're like a six foot hoop,
Speaker 1: my man, Okay, wow, wow, wow, you you can dunk
Speaker 1: kind of six foot hoop. Well you can jump over
Speaker 1: a six foot hoop. I'm an adult man. Yeah, Greg,
Speaker 1: you were to me you were last on January twenty
Speaker 1: first of twenty twenty, so yeah, okay, time travel man. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we were just saying that those January twenty first of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Have I been on two times? Man? But
Speaker 1: I do you guys have this with the sort of
Speaker 1: like pandemic, just like black hole where you're not sure
Speaker 1: what you did or who you were of course all
Speaker 1: the time. Yeah, without a pandemic. Yes, yeah, it's just
Speaker 1: kind of Wednesday for me, but I I yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: January of twenty twenty. Wow, I think Kobe Bryant was
Speaker 1: still alive. That can't so many people were still alive. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he died on the twenty six because we were up
Speaker 1: there for sketch Fest. I remember whoa right and then
Speaker 1: or not up there, but anyway, we were up in
Speaker 1: the Bay I remember for sketch Fest. Anyway, all that
Speaker 1: to say, it's been too long. It's been too long,
Speaker 1: but thanks for having me.
Speaker 2: It's been too long, too long his house, I last
Speaker 2: talk to greet people. All right, Well, hopefully we don't
Speaker 2: curse any generational great to an early demise, although I
Speaker 2: guess we already.
Speaker 1: You got to stop blaming yourself for that man, you
Speaker 1: blame yourself for Kobe, he blames got it.
Speaker 2: I don't blame myself.
Speaker 1: I don't not blame myself.
Speaker 2: You know. Well, it's been tough, all right, Greg. We're
Speaker 2: gonna get to know you a little bit better in
Speaker 2: a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple
Speaker 2: of things we're talking about. It seems to be genuinely
Speaker 2: up in the air if Trump's going to like just
Speaker 2: not show up to the debate on.
Speaker 1: The money, if anyone's taking money, I might bet him
Speaker 1: not showing up. But I don't know.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, like people there's you know, production companies are
Speaker 2: like so wait do we what do we? You just
Speaker 2: like do it anyways? And then he just might not
Speaker 2: show up, Like what's what's happening? Like, is there is
Speaker 2: there a Vegas odds for that?
Speaker 1: I wonder you take for that? We should check. There
Speaker 1: should be. I'd probably not. I'd be more comfortable betting
Speaker 1: on that than like sports, but I guess it's But
Speaker 1: also Trump, I think as much as one of the
Speaker 1: most predictable humans ever, so it's not exactly the science
Speaker 1: I think I think he shows. I would love if
Speaker 1: he shows because based on what his debate prep is,
Speaker 1: I have to see this in action. I have to
Speaker 1: see what this guy's going to do.
Speaker 2: He hasn't talked to anybody who is like left of
Speaker 2: Fox News in just like I think, both in his
Speaker 2: private life and just generally since I don't know, maybe
Speaker 2: twenty twenty, maybe since the last episode we had, I
Speaker 2: don't think he lets it in.
Speaker 1: I wonder if that like the best strategy there too
Speaker 1: for Biden is is really just too and I wish
Speaker 1: they would do this more. When Trump talks is just go,
Speaker 1: you know, he rambles on and says whatever, and then
Speaker 1: I hope Biden can have the wherewithal to just be
Speaker 1: like I'm sorry, what what you know? Or we had
Speaker 1: talked about this in twenty sixteen, like I wish somebody
Speaker 1: would just be like, hey, I'm sorry, but bro, he
Speaker 1: smells so bad, like there's a smell up here that
Speaker 1: I'm I just like Roy, I don't know. That's why
Speaker 1: it's funny too, Like that's the kind of shit Trump
Speaker 1: would do. And he's like lock at little Mark or
Speaker 1: the way he holds the water bottle and it was like,
Speaker 1: oh shit, but it's almost like are you like, yo,
Speaker 1: are you okay? No? Like for real? If Trump, if Biden?
Speaker 1: Really this is where I always thought Biden should hire
Speaker 1: some comedy writers to go in and just be like, hey,
Speaker 1: let's pick a couple of moments and then let's let's
Speaker 1: get an acting teacher in here to help you translate
Speaker 1: the moment that Trump shit his pants and just continue
Speaker 1: to play that ready entire thing. Yeah yeah, yeah, but anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: since twenty twenty, I've kind of come around on Trump guys.
Speaker 2: So you know, I think my man shows up because
Speaker 2: he is brave. He doesn't run from anything. No surrender.
Speaker 2: And that T shirt says the T shirt of a
Speaker 2: picture of him surrendering. Oh but yeah, that's that's our
Speaker 2: motto here in this house. We believe no surrender for
Speaker 2: Donald Trump. So squid game, but America is happening apparently
Speaker 2: at Netflix, or at least that's the rumor with David Fincher.
Speaker 1: Don't do it? What the fuck don't.
Speaker 2: Do David Fincher is like torn between two projects that
Speaker 2: sound like absolute shit.
Speaker 1: So I just want to talk about that because it's
Speaker 1: not great decision making. So well, yeah, and I think
Speaker 1: we need.
Speaker 2: To hold Hollywood's hand right now, because they are kind
Speaker 2: of reeling like the Avengers kind of went away for them.
Speaker 2: They're they're at the point where they're like, what if
Speaker 2: we just run it back with the old Avengers that
Speaker 2: worked before. But before they get to that, they're like
Speaker 2: having to make these decisions about like what movies to make,
Speaker 2: and they keep making similar mistakes over and overs. So
Speaker 2: I want to talk about all of that play more.
Speaker 2: But first Greg, we do like to ask our guest,
Speaker 2: what is something from your search history that's revealing about
Speaker 2: who you are?
Speaker 1: This was this was well I'm trying to move, so
Speaker 1: I went ahead and took out all of my searches
Speaker 1: for you know, two bedroom charming guest house for cheap
Speaker 1: with pool because those clearly didn't turn up anything. But
Speaker 1: I'm dudes, I'm so on one right now about just
Speaker 1: like positive thinking. This is like my new thing, okay,
Speaker 1: and not like full like I wouldn't say I'm like
Speaker 1: full on like manifest guy, but I am like trying
Speaker 1: to get out of the habit of just like sort
Speaker 1: of spiraling about you know, nonsense or just you know,
Speaker 1: playing on rotissory things that really aren't very beneficial. So
Speaker 1: I saw this great post. I think it was on
Speaker 1: Open Culture a few years ago, which is a great
Speaker 1: website that's just like fun interesting things, and it was,
Speaker 1: and so I googled it again the other day because
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, this is right, this is my jam
Speaker 1: right now. It was Octavia Butler, who was a famous
Speaker 1: sci fi writer. Yeah, her journals and her notes were
Speaker 1: all given to Huntington Library and they published an Open Culture.
Speaker 1: I remember had one of her journal pages was just
Speaker 1: like her mantra to herself, like basically like her positive
Speaker 1: thinking like mantra, and I love it. And so I
Speaker 1: was like, so the last thing I googled was it
Speaker 1: was something like Octavia Butler journal page Positive or something,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's really cool. Actually you can read like
Speaker 1: she she's sort of like laid out exactly like what
Speaker 1: she was going to do with her life, like I'm
Speaker 1: going to be a best selling author, I'm going to
Speaker 1: sell my books to these places. I'm going to be
Speaker 1: on all the best seller New York Times list. And
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember the phrase that she used,
Speaker 1: which was so be it c to it and I
Speaker 1: just loved that. And so it was like, so the
Speaker 1: last thing I googled was what are the Octavia Butler
Speaker 1: journal pages?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 1: Okay, kind of nice one.
Speaker 2: I got to update get more specific than my search
Speaker 2: how to positive thinking?
Speaker 1: What sounds better? How to how too positive? Is that positive?
Speaker 4: Like that?
Speaker 1: Am I positive? Also? Is a is a search term
Speaker 1: that I've used and it comes up with different things.
Speaker 1: It's u yeah, man, the positive it's hard sometimes, you know. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The thing the skill that I've had to really develop
Speaker 1: is like when you're like ruminating and you start spiraling,
Speaker 1: is the cycle of going like fuck, I don't want
Speaker 1: to start like I hate that I'm thinking about this?
Speaker 1: Why am I thinking about this? It's stressing me out?
Speaker 1: And then you just keep you just keep fucking folding
Speaker 1: that up for like a fucking just just making it
Speaker 1: worse and worse. And then I heard like I forget,
Speaker 1: which like it's like sort of one of these like
Speaker 1: therapist spirituality sort of people that I've I've I've listened
Speaker 1: to before, was like the thing that stuck with me
Speaker 1: most was saying you have to sort of break out
Speaker 1: of that first by forgiving yourself for letting it come pound,
Speaker 1: because if you don't address that first, you have to
Speaker 1: disrupt it first by trying to say like, that's okay
Speaker 1: that I'm that I feel this way, yeah, and try
Speaker 1: and stay with that versus like, fucking don't feel like
Speaker 1: this because this is how gonna feel like shit? Why
Speaker 1: you keep feeling like shit? And they'd be like, hey,
Speaker 1: well it's okay that I feel like this. Let me
Speaker 1: just always say, dude, I'm I'm like really trying to yeah,
Speaker 1: just even like acknowledge that I'm like, oh, yeah, that's okay.
Speaker 1: That's interesting that I've like sort of like it's that
Speaker 1: thing where you're like when you're on low grade stress
Speaker 1: or anxiety, you don't really realize a lot of times
Speaker 1: you're even thinking the things you're thinking. Just trying to
Speaker 1: like pay attention to what I'm thinking about and be like,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe I could like put that here for
Speaker 1: a little bit and focus on something else rather than Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's mindfulness. It's that that mindfulness thing, Brock. That's what
Speaker 1: I was thinking about. Yeah, Tara Brock, She's she's all
Speaker 1: about some tera Brock.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a Buddhist thing, the parable of the two arrows,
Speaker 2: where like the first arrow is the physical pain, but
Speaker 2: then the second arrow is like the stress of feeling
Speaker 2: the first arrow and then feeling bad about the pain
Speaker 2: about the first arrow. And that is a great description
Speaker 2: of how my anxiety works. It's like I mostly wake
Speaker 2: up with anxiety and then I'm like, fuck, why am
Speaker 2: I feeling anxiety? And you know, you have judgment compounding
Speaker 2: on judgment.
Speaker 1: What Jack's not saying is also you had a guy
Speaker 1: shooting arrows at you, Which is that is the cause
Speaker 1: of my anxiety? Yeah? Yeah, just a guy hunting of
Speaker 1: an urban an urban hunter stalking you through the streets
Speaker 1: of LA Right, Yeah, she's less lethal. Maybe what is
Speaker 1: something you think is underrated? Right? Customer service? My guys, Okay,
Speaker 1: I am here's the thing. I've been there. I've worked
Speaker 1: at places where you're just like, I don't know, man, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you're like, yeah, complain, I dare you dead already? Totally? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And I was like I was in a place the
Speaker 1: other day and it's like the customer service was really great,
Speaker 1: and I was just like, this is this is my
Speaker 1: new thing. I'm like, I will I will sing the
Speaker 1: praises of any business that is is doing some good
Speaker 1: customer service. That's my thing right now. Yeah. Well, I
Speaker 1: mean it's funny because your original thought is tied to
Speaker 1: why customer service is so terrible because no one is
Speaker 1: actually paid a living wage in most instances totally even
Speaker 1: allow you because most people have to carry all this
Speaker 1: existential fucking stress anyway. Yeah, and on top of that,
Speaker 1: you're gonna go somewhere where you don't know if the
Speaker 1: people are gonna tip you, and they're all in their
Speaker 1: stress and they don't know how to treat people in
Speaker 1: service jobs and shit like that. It's really yeah, it's
Speaker 1: it's not it's not great, but yeah, and.
Speaker 2: It reminds me of the thing we talked about on here,
Speaker 2: Like there's this great mystery about why young people's mental
Speaker 2: health is struggling, and people like it must be like
Speaker 2: their phones, right, Like it's got to just be that
Speaker 2: they have the phones. And then they're like, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: and they seem to like have really high stress levels
Speaker 2: about the end of the world being caused by their parents' generation,
Speaker 2: like the world being left to them being an apocalyptic wastelam.
Speaker 2: But like, I think, I think it's just we need
Speaker 2: to get them off probably grass while there's still grass,
Speaker 2: because actually we're getting rid of that pretty soon because
Speaker 2: it's not very profitable for us. But yeah, I like,
Speaker 2: I think there's an overall understanding like people I think
Speaker 2: are generally smarter than generally giving credit for and they're
Speaker 2: like they recognize Okay, I worked for like a big
Speaker 2: massive company that is like bad, is not like contributing anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I mean and you hear about all these
Speaker 1: people like soft quitting their jobs during the pandemic and stuff,
Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, because it just like that grind
Speaker 1: is terrible, especially if you like can't make it make
Speaker 1: ends meat at the end of the day.
Speaker 5: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I definitely don't get mad at the people who
Speaker 1: are not providing good customer service. I do get upset
Speaker 1: where it's just like I even just like the idea
Speaker 1: of like I'm so hopeful that like people can start
Speaker 1: little small businesses and stuff that they actually like and
Speaker 1: enjoy and can make a living at because yeah, working
Speaker 1: at Warby Parker, ain't it. Yeah, that feels like what
Speaker 1: Portland is.
Speaker 2: Like.
Speaker 1: I always see people like the most niche small businesses
Speaker 1: in Portland and I'm like, oh, on, you like beer
Speaker 1: and hot sauce and you only do these two things
Speaker 1: at your store? Okay, yeah, man, And I'm doing pretty
Speaker 1: well at it. Yeah, but you have to have a
Speaker 1: beard to work here. Yeah. But here it's just impossible
Speaker 1: because like there, the rents are so high for any
Speaker 1: kind of commercial space. It's like, I don't know, does
Speaker 1: your dad or your mom can they give you all
Speaker 1: the money to start? Yeah? Yeah, And usually it is
Speaker 1: like if you dig one layer deep where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you have a cute little pop up fashion brand. Yeah,
Speaker 1: then I googled you and your dad produced that is
Speaker 1: twenty four. Oh your dad is TJ Max. Yeah, Thomas
Speaker 1: James Max.
Speaker 2: Thomas James Max. Just a couple of corrections here. We
Speaker 2: think capitalism on this show is underrated. And in this house,
Speaker 2: we believe working at warby Parker.
Speaker 3: Is it.
Speaker 1: Just in case they went on like sponsored Potters, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we we think it's it. Don Glasses because I had Lasik.
Speaker 1: Nice dude, COVID can reverse lasick. Okay, well I think
Speaker 1: that's a true thing. Actually, people that got lasick and
Speaker 1: then got and it basically fucked up their lace. Oh shit, I.
Speaker 2: Heard you can just like blow really hard and like
Speaker 2: plug your nose or I just like pops back to
Speaker 2: the old way it.
Speaker 1: Used to be your eyelid or your yeah your corniery shapes.
Speaker 2: Yeah up, my eyes are fucked again. Uh, what is
Speaker 2: something you think is overrated?
Speaker 1: I'm going Tesla right now, y'all? I oh, no, you
Speaker 1: guys trying to. I finally like rode in a Tesla
Speaker 1: and really paid attention to the feeling of riding in
Speaker 1: a Tesla car. And I gotta say, if you're gonna
Speaker 1: pay that much money for a car, it's got to
Speaker 1: not feel like a weird golf cart that doesn't have
Speaker 1: any smooth ride. It sucks. It's a it is not
Speaker 1: a smooth ride. I would much rather be in like
Speaker 1: a nineteen ninety eight like buickless Saber if I if
Speaker 1: I want to smooth ride, But those cars suck to
Speaker 1: ride in. I'm saying. I remember the first time I
Speaker 1: got in one, I was so underwhelmed, like it was weird.
Speaker 1: I had built up Tesla's in my mind like fucking crazy.
Speaker 1: And I remember someone I knew it was, like partner,
Speaker 1: drove one and like picked us up to go somewhere.
Speaker 1: And first I fucking embarrassed myself because I know the
Speaker 1: fucking door handle whrek, Yeah you can't get it. And
Speaker 1: I was like I was like rubbing it. Shit, you
Speaker 1: guys gotta push it and then it comes out. I
Speaker 1: was like all right, And then I was immediately like man,
Speaker 1: fuck this door handle. And then I got in and
Speaker 1: then like everything kind of felt like like not substantial.
Speaker 1: Like when I pulled the door thing, I was like,
Speaker 1: is this like just PVC pipe like the rap filed
Speaker 1: in synthetic leather. Everything feels very just yeah, not substantial,
Speaker 1: transitory something like they're just you feel like, yes, it's fast,
Speaker 1: and if it goes too fast, the car might just
Speaker 1: kind of like fall apart around you, like a cybertruck
Speaker 1: where the paneling will just turn it like into an
Speaker 1: air fin and bend backwards on a way. And I
Speaker 1: feel like they don't even need to talk about those.
Speaker 1: It's just like, you know, if you drive the cyber truck.
Speaker 1: That's my honestly, that's like my favorite new Like I
Speaker 1: was talking about this on the show the other day.
Speaker 1: My new favorite like form of shotenfreude is watching the
Speaker 1: people with their cyber trucks be like, I can't the
Speaker 1: fuck is wrong with my car. My steering wheel looks
Speaker 1: like a little batmobile thing. My inssurance company won't ensure it.
Speaker 1: I think it's actually fully worthwhile to Like. My new
Speaker 1: thing with cyber trucks is if I see one, I
Speaker 1: actually turn and point and laugh and see and see
Speaker 1: if I can ever get the person to like be like, man, man,
Speaker 1: we're laughing at Yeah, well yeah it is pretty cool.
Speaker 2: U Wow, why are you convulsing?
Speaker 1: I don't know, but yeah, I don't know. And that
Speaker 1: you know, obviously the elon thing is is is hard
Speaker 1: to swallow, and I did. There was a time when
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, ev is so cool, and now
Speaker 1: I'm just like, give us a train. Somebody, give us
Speaker 1: a train. Somebody give us a fast, cool train like
Speaker 1: they have in Europe or Japan or whatever, so that
Speaker 1: I can go somewhere and not have to drive, and
Speaker 1: also not have my car drive me. I don't really
Speaker 1: want that to you.
Speaker 2: I see your train, and I raise you a train
Speaker 2: tunnel that you can.
Speaker 1: Drive in Sea Jack. This is what we don't want
Speaker 1: in this house.
Speaker 2: We believe the Boring Company is the future.
Speaker 1: And I just picturing your yard with all your missile signs.
Speaker 2: It's so many signs, so many signs, and that guy
Speaker 2: keeps shooting.
Speaker 1: Amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, uh, let's Uh, let's take a quick break and
Speaker 2: we'll come back and we'll talk about some news.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back and we're back and all right.
Speaker 2: So Donald Trump seems worried about the debate that he
Speaker 2: agreed to after like saying he wasn't going to do
Speaker 2: a debate.
Speaker 1: He yeah, he said he was going to do it.
Speaker 1: What happed mean the whole thing was, these are rules
Speaker 1: you agreed to. It's like they're gonna cut the mics
Speaker 1: off when you're not talking. They're like, yeah, you agreed
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the rules as you agreed to them.
Speaker 1: They can't I can't bring up I can only have
Speaker 1: a water and paper and pen up there. I can't
Speaker 1: bring my big old books up there and other crap.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, yeah, you can't have any of that.
Speaker 1: But yeah. It's like, over the last couple of weeks,
Speaker 1: we've heard increased speculation from the right about how Joel
Speaker 1: Biden is going to be higher than method Man and
Speaker 1: Red Man on the Blackout album and on Thursday. This
Speaker 1: is going to happen on Thursday night when they're scheduled
Speaker 1: to debate for the first time since obviously twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: The excuses, though, really began trickling in over the last
Speaker 1: week as like you know, Trump surrogates and people going
Speaker 1: out there doing the news shows, and Trump himself began
Speaker 1: like lamenting again the rules he agreed to or how
Speaker 1: mean Jake Capper has been to him in the past.
Speaker 1: And Trump has good reason, I think, to not be
Speaker 1: excited about sharing the stage because you know, not that
Speaker 1: poll numbers really matter, but every time he debates a Democrat,
Speaker 1: like in twenty sixteen and twenty twenty, his numbers dip
Speaker 1: when people were just like that juxtapositions a little odd
Speaker 1: for some people, like this person spoken complete sentences and
Speaker 1: this guy was stalking a woman around the stage. And
Speaker 1: while again pulling is the whole game, it's just like
Speaker 1: the last time twenty twenty, that first debate with Biden
Speaker 1: and Trump, it just wasn't a good look because Trump
Speaker 1: came off looking like a fucking freak next to Joe Biden,
Speaker 1: who was merely just an old man, like standing on
Speaker 1: RGE like he.
Speaker 2: Did when there were like primary debates for the Democratic
Speaker 2: primary like in twenty twenty.
Speaker 1: Biden was not like good, no, he's not like a
Speaker 1: good debater, no, no, yeah, no, My question is like
Speaker 1: who comes to these debates going like, you know what,
Speaker 1: I've I've stayed pretty independent up to this point, and
Speaker 1: I'm just going to see what these two gentlemen have
Speaker 1: to say and Trump guys all about it, and I'm
Speaker 1: just going to base it on the issues, you know what.
Speaker 1: I reacht their websites and they seem like they have
Speaker 1: some they have some differences. I'm a Democrat, but I
Speaker 1: don't know, man, I just didn't I didn't really see
Speaker 1: Trump do his thing like that before. I'm kind of
Speaker 1: into it now. I'm kind of I've kind of interested now,
Speaker 1: and I think it is like disingenuous, right, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: do you know people that are like, I don't know, man,
Speaker 1: I just don't know if I can hold my nose
Speaker 1: and vote for Biden. And it's like I had this,
Speaker 1: this is a conversation where I'm immediately like, Okay, well
Speaker 1: then I just don't. I don't have a lot of
Speaker 1: patience for it.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: It's like it's like turning that thing into like a
Speaker 1: single issue vote where you're you know, I'm like, whatever
Speaker 1: your issue with Biden is, I beg you to show
Speaker 1: me like a version that you find a better version
Speaker 1: of your beliefs in Trump. Yeah, I mean it's just
Speaker 1: so hard because you're, like, especially with the Biden stuff,
Speaker 1: so many people are contending with the anger of how
Speaker 1: the two party system just like forces you to be like,
Speaker 1: obviously I don't want Trump to be president totally. Biden
Speaker 1: is completely unresponsive to anything that like matters and what
Speaker 1: the fuck is this? But again, by both parties just
Speaker 1: trade off being the bad guy so then the other
Speaker 1: one can raise funds and then you know they do
Speaker 1: the merriag around. But it's clear Trump is still fucking
Speaker 1: hooked on doing freestyle jazz, talking up there, just flowing
Speaker 1: on some stream of consciousness, consciousness, word association shit. And
Speaker 1: on Saturday in Philadelphia, I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: that like epic rant he had about water and the
Speaker 1: sinks and shit like that. A lot of like he's
Speaker 1: he's definitely in his water phase between like the batteries
Speaker 1: and the boats and the sharks and like dishwashers, which
Speaker 1: he also period. Yeah, this is this is water era, and.
Speaker 2: That's something that like young children go like age like three,
Speaker 2: you go through your water period where like water is
Speaker 2: the coolest thing in the world and you have like
Speaker 2: your little water tables and you kept playing.
Speaker 1: With water exactly. He's in his water period at the moment.
Speaker 1: And if you this is a lot of people were
Speaker 1: talking about this, but just to give you a taste,
Speaker 1: like this is how the guy is talking. When he's
Speaker 1: just talking, So try and like imagine this on a
Speaker 1: debate stage.
Speaker 5: No water in your faucets. You ever tried buying a
Speaker 5: new home and you turn on to have restricts in there.
Speaker 5: You want to wash your hair, you want to wash
Speaker 5: your hands. You turn on the water and it goes drip,
Speaker 5: drip the soap. You can't get it off your hat.
Speaker 5: So you keep it running for at ten times. We'll
Speaker 5: get you try the worst hair.
Speaker 1: I have beautiful, luxuriant hair, luxuriant, and I put stuff on.
Speaker 1: I put it in hair.
Speaker 5: I like lots of leather because I like it to
Speaker 5: come out extremely dry, because it seems to be slightly
Speaker 5: thicker that way.
Speaker 1: What anyway, So this is like a lot of people
Speaker 1: like he's rambling, he's talking. He's trying to talk about
Speaker 1: like water restrictors and shower heads, like this is the
Speaker 1: thing he's talked about before. But again he starts off
Speaker 1: trying to make some point about like what about our
Speaker 1: water interns into I like my hair real drying. He's
Speaker 1: just just freestyle man. He is of rifts. He's the
Speaker 1: king of rifts. And think about how.
Speaker 2: Our toilets can't choke down his giant ships. It can't
Speaker 2: be far behind. It's just a prediction.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, we're talking soon. We got to
Speaker 1: be talking toilets. Like again, we're in the water phase,
Speaker 1: so something with something, something aquatic will turn up. But
Speaker 1: prior to that performance of ranting, he had an interview
Speaker 1: with some right wing blogger and said that they're like, uhs,
Speaker 1: you got this. The guy was asking, like, you got
Speaker 1: this debate coming up? It's pretty intense, and he's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm getting pretty Just listen. This is what Trump was saying,
Speaker 1: like how he's fucking preparing for the debate.
Speaker 2: Being interviewed by a guy completely bald with a beard.
Speaker 2: Just in case that wasn't, that's probably clear. I probably
Speaker 2: don't need to Yeah, what a.
Speaker 4: Right wing blogger, dude looks like, Yeah, Joe Biden at
Speaker 4: Camp David, as you and I stand here, your debate
Speaker 4: is Thursday with him no audience. CNN controls the mics
Speaker 4: Danavash Jake Tapper, how do you feel about that matchup?
Speaker 5: Well, it's probably one on three and I've been doing
Speaker 5: this for a long time though, will handle that. And
Speaker 5: people say, how are you preparing? I'm preparing by taking
Speaker 5: questions from you and others if you think about it, so,
Speaker 5: but I'm prepared by dealing with you.
Speaker 1: You're tougher than all of them.
Speaker 4: That well, it is a real player to be here. Sure,
Speaker 4: I know you've got a lot of fans waiting. So
Speaker 4: it's welcome you to town, sir, and thank you so
Speaker 4: much for your time.
Speaker 1: You've been a great friend.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Chris, appreciate it. Thank you, thank you much for that.
Speaker 1: Guy has like tears in his eye. Yeah, I always
Speaker 1: love you. Yeah, he got his name right, But like, yeah, Chris, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm friend in this world.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 1: This is where you know, I think most people become
Speaker 1: very skeptical because if if you go off the answer
Speaker 1: of what he said is debate. Prep was like, it's
Speaker 1: like talking to people like you. I'm taking questions. So
Speaker 1: in a way, that's preparing, isn't it. And that sounds
Speaker 1: like you're not preparing at all because you're not going
Speaker 1: to go on the debate stage. And if you are
Speaker 1: going on the debate stage and your version of preparing
Speaker 1: is just like completely whiffing on softballs from sycophants, and
Speaker 1: that's your preparation for the debate of your life. I'm
Speaker 1: again this this will be It'll just be straight up
Speaker 1: chaos because he's obviously going to be getting a ton
Speaker 1: of questions about all his bullshit, like felonies to January sixth,
Speaker 1: asking about Egene Carroll, where he may fucking over like
Speaker 1: millions of dollars again by opening his mouth to Rico charges,
Speaker 1: fucking classified documents and talking to a guy who would
Speaker 1: never be like I mean, like you know, like did
Speaker 1: you really why did you have those classified documents? That's
Speaker 1: not that's not done out. He's not preparing it anyway.
Speaker 1: This is why I think it's going That's why I
Speaker 1: think now we see that there's this like reason that's
Speaker 1: emerging from the right, which is coming from a lot
Speaker 1: of people, including Trump, which is Joe Biden is on
Speaker 1: fucking crank and there's no way he can debate a
Speaker 1: guy who's on fucking speed. Even though Trump I have
Speaker 1: Joe Biden is on speed. Like I mean, this is
Speaker 1: my prayers that Joe Biden does some speed before this debate,
Speaker 1: because I mean, like, as long as we get Joe
Speaker 1: Biden like talking fast and walking quick, I think we
Speaker 1: win this thing. Like, hey, have me that computer monitor,
Speaker 1: Jack and a screwdriver. Yeah, see what's going on? So
Speaker 1: supporto on. I'm kind of fucking amped man, Like we
Speaker 1: put Joe Biden, We put Joe Biden on some meth,
Speaker 1: and he will win the debate and he'll steal a
Speaker 1: bunch of copper piping out of thee.
Speaker 2: I took the bike apart, and I took the spokes
Speaker 2: out of the wheels, but he used to hang the
Speaker 2: spokes back.
Speaker 1: Look, Jack, anybody can do this. Yeah. It is weird
Speaker 1: to how Trump alway stages it. Like I mean even
Speaker 1: that clip was like a wrestling like it did feel like, well,
Speaker 1: it's three on one this weekend.
Speaker 2: They were standing in front of the giant American flag
Speaker 2: like doing the standing interviews.
Speaker 1: Yeah, camera, and I'm surprised something take the mic and
Speaker 1: go direct a camera. But yeah, Ronnie Jackson aka fucking
Speaker 1: doctor feel Good, the old White House doctor who has
Speaker 1: had everybody pilled up in both administrations.
Speaker 2: By the way, also yeah, the Obama administration.
Speaker 1: Yeah. He submitted a letter as a congressman said quote,
Speaker 1: I demand this is to Joe Biden. I demand that
Speaker 1: you submit to a clinically validated drug test in order
Speaker 1: to reassure the American people that you are mentally fit
Speaker 1: to serve as president and not relying on perform romans
Speaker 1: enhancing drugs to help you with your debate performance command.
Speaker 1: There is either Queen of England. Yeah no. And again,
Speaker 1: like you're saying, Zach, like this is this is a
Speaker 1: guy whose time in the and the White House was
Speaker 1: described as quote a wash in speed. Yes, yeah, like
Speaker 1: everything they said apparently this like was staffer's popping pills
Speaker 1: and washing them down with alcohol. In large part to
Speaker 1: Jackson's leadership as chief Medical Advisor, common pill requests included
Speaker 1: medafinil adderall, fentanyl, morphine, and ketamine, according to a Pentagon
Speaker 1: report release in January, but other unlisted drugs such as
Speaker 1: xan x, were equally easy to come by from the
Speaker 1: White House Medical Unit.
Speaker 2: Of course, it really takes a step up at a
Speaker 2: fentanyl morphine. It's like, yeah, wait, what for what the
Speaker 2: the other ones are like, Yeah, that's what I expect
Speaker 2: the what the White House sailor like.
Speaker 1: Fent like get those anymore? Right? Yeah, it's interesting.
Speaker 2: I mean we always talk about how his instinct is
Speaker 2: always too accuse the other people of doing the thing
Speaker 2: he's doing. And he seems so high when he's up
Speaker 2: on the stage, like just the way he's just rambling
Speaker 2: from one thing to the other and just talking about
Speaker 2: how luxuriant his hair is. Like it feels feels like
Speaker 2: he's on like ecstasy or something.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it just feels like a guy who knows,
Speaker 1: like I gotta get I guess I gotta talk for
Speaker 1: an hour straight. So what I'm just gonna talk about
Speaker 1: whatever the fuck I want.
Speaker 2: Like, you know, he doesn't have to, but he has
Speaker 2: to exactly the only thing that fills the the sucking void.
Speaker 1: A good campaign ad for Joe Biden should just be
Speaker 1: taking Trump transcripts and having someone read back transcripts of
Speaker 1: Trump to potential voters and being like, so just a
Speaker 1: quick thing when you hear Trump say, you know, because
Speaker 1: if there's a star in the crowd, you know, their
Speaker 1: cameras on my head, the back of the whole time cameras,
Speaker 1: they're the best. Think about the seats. This is a
Speaker 1: beautiful crowd, and how we're going to get the water
Speaker 1: and then just be like, so what do you think
Speaker 1: about that? What do you mean just just get the
Speaker 1: reaction that should be the whole thing. I think it's great.
Speaker 1: I think it's I think it's awesome.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 1: And what was he saying?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I fucking love cameras. Man, They're
Speaker 2: like magic. Just don't get them wet or near.
Speaker 1: A magnet, you know, exactly charkle by that camera.
Speaker 2: I do think though, like this is this happens every
Speaker 2: debate where especially the Republicans. This seems to be like
Speaker 2: a piece of accepted wisdom among Republicans. So you really
Speaker 2: need to aggressively attack expectations and that that does tend
Speaker 2: to work. Like That's why I'm just like, is the
Speaker 2: mainstream media just like falling for the same bullshit every
Speaker 2: like that they fall for every time, where like Trump's
Speaker 2: like Biden's one of the great debaters of our time
Speaker 2: and he he killed like at the time, I guess
Speaker 2: he said, like remember when Biden debated Paul Ryan and
Speaker 2: everyone was like Biden's gonna get fucking killed, and then
Speaker 2: Biden like did fine, held his own against Paul Ryan,
Speaker 2: which in retrospect not that impressive. Paul Ryan's a fucking dipshit,
Speaker 2: but that like he did better than expectations. So now
Speaker 2: Trump's like, this guy is one of the great debaters
Speaker 2: of all time and he's gonna be So it's gonna
Speaker 2: be flying on peds up there, and then he's gonna
Speaker 2: show up and like have the expectations set where he
Speaker 2: wants them. So I'm a little I'm a little like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, he'll probably show up, Like it would
Speaker 2: be such a bad look for him not to show up, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, but he's giving himself, you know, like.
Speaker 1: Because this is anything, He's like, well, he's gonna be
Speaker 1: on drugs. I couldn't debate somebody and then he could
Speaker 1: just be like I'm not talking to that speed freak.
Speaker 1: Yeah he won't. He won't take a drug test, and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna play like you know, it would be.
Speaker 2: A real bad look. It was just like, I hope
Speaker 2: he doesn't show up because that seems like a terrible.
Speaker 1: Look is there even like because even in this version, right,
Speaker 1: even if he shows up and completely shifs the bed
Speaker 1: figuratively or literally, no one's gonna gonna whatever takes it.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be like whatever, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: Like no one's it's so it's hard to know because
Speaker 1: he's trying to be like I'm not losing anybody, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, So like what do I have
Speaker 1: to lose if I don't even go up there? But again,
Speaker 1: I know he wants to start wind milling about the
Speaker 1: fucking like like immigrants are killing people angle and that's
Speaker 1: gonna be a moment for him to sort of, you know,
Speaker 1: try and press Biden on something like that. But I
Speaker 1: don't know at the end of the day, based on
Speaker 1: like how I don't know, just he just seems very
Speaker 1: like he's just not into it. But look, we don't
Speaker 1: fucking know.
Speaker 2: But I feel like maybe the debate polls are it
Speaker 2: might be like like a thing with like the pepsi
Speaker 2: taste tests, where you know, pepsi would win taste tests
Speaker 2: when it was like a little sip of pepsi versus
Speaker 2: a little sip of coke. But like you can't drink
Speaker 2: a whole glass of pepsi without your teeth falling out
Speaker 2: feeling like they're vibrating. Like I just feel like you're
Speaker 2: testing for different things, and like the he always successfully
Speaker 2: like makes it horribly ugly in any debate he's in,
Speaker 2: Like I never leave the debate being like, well he
Speaker 2: just got his ass kicked, you know, it's always so
Speaker 2: I I just feel like some of this is like
Speaker 2: people like wishful thinking that he's not gonna show up,
Speaker 2: that he's going to show up and just like suck.
Speaker 2: I don't like, I feel like it could go the
Speaker 2: other direction pretty easily. Not that that like this is
Speaker 2: just also me, like this is the same comportment I
Speaker 2: take into my sports fandom where I'm like, we suck.
Speaker 2: We're gonna lose by forty points. But it does feel
Speaker 2: like I don't know, it could go badly for Biden. Oh,
Speaker 2: given what we've seen of him speaking temporaneous yeah.
Speaker 1: Over the mistake. They're both No, I don't know who
Speaker 1: a favorite is going into this, because just as easily
Speaker 1: Trump can just suck all the fucking air out of
Speaker 1: the room and just keep He's like these same things,
Speaker 1: and then Biden's probably like I need a nap. Who knows,
Speaker 1: like what the fuck's gonna happen, but he asks for
Speaker 1: an actual nap. Oh God, Okay, he's like time out, man,
Speaker 1: time out, and we get like I need a nap
Speaker 1: and a caramel. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean maybe Biden
Speaker 1: or maybe Biden. Maybe the best plan for Biden is
Speaker 1: uh yeah, let's let Trump talk more and and and
Speaker 1: also get on some performance enhancing drugs that make him
Speaker 1: like super ripped. I mean, like, can we get him
Speaker 1: on HGH at this point or something so that, yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks like the best self. How quickly can he
Speaker 1: look like a light heavyweight MMA fighter physically? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I'm sure, I'm sure Joe Rogan's got some tips, So like,
Speaker 1: let's let's get let's get him just shredded for this one.
Speaker 1: He get his organs to grow, and that would.
Speaker 2: Actually be the one thing that Trump would respond to
Speaker 2: because as we know, like he terrified.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, the guy came out there with arms
Speaker 1: like Christmas hams. He's wearing a smaller suit jacket, isn't
Speaker 1: he They're bulging out of the sleeves. No, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he looks like right out of Central Casting, trumpel of
Speaker 1: Central Casting. Yeah, he does. You get a super strong president.
Speaker 1: Trump's gonna like it. And these guys, they have big muscles.
Speaker 2: Maybe not so much down here in here, but being
Speaker 2: up here up here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, huge brains.
Speaker 2: All right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back,
Speaker 2: we'll talk a little pop culture. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: And we're back. We're back.
Speaker 2: And so back in April last year, there were rumors
Speaker 2: that Netflix was working on American remake of Squig Game,
Speaker 2: a show that is first of all, very much still
Speaker 2: going on, like they only had one season and like
Speaker 2: ended on a cliffhanger, and they were reportedly trying to
Speaker 2: recruit David Fincher to make it. The Finchman is you know,
Speaker 2: heavily involved in Netflix as like their chosen creative. The
Speaker 2: directed the pilot for a House of Cards, and you know,
Speaker 2: has done a bunch of good, good work for them. However,
Speaker 2: Fincher has also been working on a Chinatown prequel series
Speaker 2: with the film's original screenwriter, Robert Town, and Robert Town
Speaker 2: just revealed that all the episodes are written and ready
Speaker 2: to go. And the question is now, like, is Fincher
Speaker 2: putting that project on the back burner, that project, which
Speaker 2: we're assuming is called Chinatown Babies? Is he backburnering that
Speaker 2: to focus on squid Game? And I just wanted to
Speaker 2: stop here for a moment to just ask the question,
Speaker 2: have either of these ideas ever worked? An American remake
Speaker 2: of an already great, huge hit foreign film like let
Speaker 2: the Right One In Do, Like at was a great
Speaker 2: movie and they were like, well, we better remake that
Speaker 2: as an American one. And it was like everyone's like, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: we already saw the good one. We don't, we don't
Speaker 2: need to see that. Get the fuck out of here,
Speaker 2: Old Boy again, Like everybody had already seen it, so
Speaker 2: like why why remake it?
Speaker 1: Those are the closest thing, but not everybody?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I agree, Like there have been there have
Speaker 2: been American remakes of things, but like not in the
Speaker 2: era when like everybody had already seen the first one, right,
Speaker 2: you know, and this is the one, this is this
Speaker 2: is the property the project that like has been seen
Speaker 2: by more way more people than like Old Boy, you know,
Speaker 2: like this has been seen by so many people. Squid
Speaker 2: Game was like a massive hit. It like made them
Speaker 2: almost a billion dollars Netflix just that show alone, So
Speaker 2: it doesn't make any sense that they would do an
Speaker 2: American version of a Squid Game.
Speaker 1: Question is have they ever has it ever been the
Speaker 1: case that a prestige American director has signed on to
Speaker 1: a reality show remake and been successful. I just don't
Speaker 1: Did they just send an email to the wrong David
Speaker 1: Fincher and he's like, yeah, I'd love to do it,
Speaker 1: and they're like he's in what And it's like that,
Speaker 1: so this isn't the So they have.
Speaker 2: Made the reality show remake and they're bringing that back
Speaker 2: for another season and that one does not involve David Fincher.
Speaker 1: And this is was has anyone ever hired a giant director?
Speaker 1: Like what? I just don't understand why David Fincher. I
Speaker 1: guess it was my question. Yeah, it's like it just
Speaker 1: needs more film, It needs more it needs to feel
Speaker 1: like cinema more.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess that's their feeling. But like that's what
Speaker 2: was cool about the original Squid Game was that it
Speaker 2: felt very cinematic, Like especially the first like half of
Speaker 2: the season, I thought it was great, Like, so what
Speaker 2: it I don't know that you can really improve that
Speaker 2: much on Squid Game by like remaking Squid Game. It's
Speaker 2: purely for people who don't like reading, that's it, but
Speaker 2: also too, like I don't know if people would be
Speaker 2: as receptive to like the critiques of like capitalism and
Speaker 2: like debt and exploitation if it was presented in this
Speaker 2: American way, like we love capitalism too much and.
Speaker 1: No, but it'd be like preachy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But but from from it coming from South Korea, like Americans,
Speaker 1: I feel audience was like, whoa dude, this is fucking
Speaker 1: crazy and different this southern world.
Speaker 2: Damn like mirrors mine there, end of life healthcare can
Speaker 2: bankrupt them over there.
Speaker 1: Damn dude, that sucks.
Speaker 2: Wow, just like not paying attention to what's happening in America.
Speaker 1: I can see why they would squid this game. Dude. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I remember reading something about how like Monopoly, you know,
Speaker 1: like of course Americans love to play Monopoly because they're like,
Speaker 1: I just bank it like a monopoly was created by
Speaker 1: like two French socialists to war about the dangers of capitalism. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and it's just like it like yeah, we're of course
Speaker 1: we're gonna take it completely wrong. We're gonna like who
Speaker 1: gets to win the squid game and become the new
Speaker 1: hyper capitalist at the end or something like.
Speaker 2: Yes, it was like a warning Tale game and Parker
Speaker 2: Brothers or whatever. The company took it and was like,
Speaker 2: but you know what's fun is actually were forming over
Speaker 2: and making people pay you.
Speaker 1: You gotta build it. You gotta build houses. Man, what
Speaker 1: are you doing?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, no, just buy up the property and the tax.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also want to just talk about what's
Speaker 2: behind door number two, like the project that he was
Speaker 2: supposedly already working on, a prequel, a prequel to Chinatown.
Speaker 1: Like I really feel like Congress needs to pass legislation.
Speaker 2: Like we we just talked about how furios so we
Speaker 2: I haven't seen Furios, but people like, some people liked it,
Speaker 2: some people didn't. It didn't do as well, I think
Speaker 2: because it was a fucking prequel, and like people just
Speaker 2: aren't as interested in prequels like this keeps happening, like
Speaker 2: the Star Wars films. People were like, yeah, no, it
Speaker 2: was good and like it made money, but it didn't
Speaker 2: make as much money as people were hoping it would
Speaker 2: because it was a fucking prequel and we know what
Speaker 2: was gonna happen. Fantastic beasts. You notice how the Harry
Speaker 2: Potter franchise just like died a very public death.
Speaker 1: Yes, JK.
Speaker 2: Rollings politics are super problematic, but like nobody was going
Speaker 2: to see those movies because they made a fucking prequel
Speaker 2: to the franchise, The Hobbit like did fine, it didn't
Speaker 2: do as well.
Speaker 1: As it could have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because those prequel do not eclipse the original. The
Speaker 2: King's Man, the Hunger Games just had this happen to
Speaker 2: them where they tried to do a prequel. It's just
Speaker 2: like it always seems to be a slightly diminished version
Speaker 2: of the thing that people liked in the first place,
Speaker 2: and you always have this sense like the critics are like,
Speaker 2: I mean, it should be good, like all the ingredients
Speaker 2: are there, and just every fucking time it like underdelivers
Speaker 2: on both like box office and like execution, because it's just,
Speaker 2: I don't know, it just dramatically doesn't work for all
Speaker 2: the obvious reasons that people have been pointing out since,
Speaker 2: like Star Wars failed, and in the case of Chinatown,
Speaker 2: like the entire met Like the whole point of that
Speaker 2: is that you get this like glimpse of the unfathomable,
Speaker 2: like depths of evil and darkness behind the city of
Speaker 2: Los Angeles, this supposedly sunny city. You see this like
Speaker 2: horrifying dark underbelly, and you glimpse it and then they're like,
Speaker 2: forget it, jackets Chinatown, and like that's the idea, is
Speaker 2: like you just got a glimpse and then it's over
Speaker 2: and you're just like nothing.
Speaker 1: More to be like forget it, Jacket's all gonna be Chinatown.
Speaker 2: It's like actually the origins, you know, it's just like
Speaker 2: the whole thing like it it's just so counter to well,
Speaker 2: it's just great.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just the it's like really offensive way of
Speaker 1: developing shit, which is kind of like, dude, Chinatown. People
Speaker 1: know about it, but what if we completely fuck it up?
Speaker 1: But we just use the name to try and get
Speaker 1: some eyeballs on it and just reiterate on all this shit.
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's like it's like a similar way.
Speaker 1: How Like there's some musicians who have like this one
Speaker 1: thing they do and they don't really evolve much. Some
Speaker 1: some artists are able to like have careers off, and
Speaker 1: other people like, man, all their songs are just like
Speaker 1: the same fucking song. Yeah, and she just dies out
Speaker 1: because it's not interesting, Like people want something different and
Speaker 1: new and yeah, like we live in a town where
Speaker 1: people are fucking dying to show like new stories, tell
Speaker 1: new stories in new, different ways that are so fucking
Speaker 1: interesting and not coming from this like weird monolithic way
Speaker 1: of like looking at the industry and it's pay Chinatown.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, people will be that, well it's a prequel,
Speaker 1: like so it's like before Roman Polanski was even accused
Speaker 1: of all these things, so like, you know, it's so funny.
Speaker 2: I'm not even talking about a fucking like make your sequels.
Speaker 2: Like at least that is a new story that like
Speaker 2: can go in a weird direction, like the characters can die,
Speaker 2: like that's a thing, like there's still some question, there's
Speaker 2: still some mystery, right.
Speaker 1: And yeah, no, it's tension when you're like this guy
Speaker 1: can't die because he's in the next seven films. Maybe
Speaker 1: if they do like the Fargo type treatment with it,
Speaker 1: which is like give some creator like absolute unilateral like
Speaker 1: decision making of like taking the like seed of you know,
Speaker 1: like I like totally I like that, but I guess
Speaker 1: I don't even think it's also like the TV shows
Speaker 1: being like any kind of like it has not connection
Speaker 1: and that's about it, you know, it's not starting.
Speaker 2: Like I think a lot of the reasons that they
Speaker 2: do a prequel is because they're like, well, how do
Speaker 2: we get the same character but younger and hotter. Right,
Speaker 2: you know the character is what people like, Let's get
Speaker 2: him young and.
Speaker 1: Hot Chalomet playing Jake? Yeah, could you imagine or like
Speaker 1: what I mean we did it with the Irishman? What
Speaker 1: if we just got Jack in here and just did
Speaker 1: some he's moving a little slow man. Well. I did
Speaker 1: read something recently. I thought it was interesting about this
Speaker 1: whole thing was about why why is it? Because I
Speaker 1: guess they did a poll of like no one wants
Speaker 1: no people want new movies. There's like a huge like
Speaker 1: sentiment among moviegoers like we don't want franchise stuff anymore.
Speaker 1: We don't want like we just want some new stuff.
Speaker 1: And the article is talking about how this is all
Speaker 1: born out of like development executives being like what IP
Speaker 1: do we own and what IP can we find that
Speaker 1: then we bring to the table and say, guys, you
Speaker 1: know what we should do? Reboot the Hannah Barbera Library.
Speaker 1: And then the executive feels like essentially they created that.
Speaker 1: So you have all these executive feeling like, yeah, I
Speaker 1: brought up Hannah barbar I brought up Scooby Doo at
Speaker 1: the table and everybody knows that and likes it, and
Speaker 1: so now I get to act like I created Scooby Doo. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what about Chinatown but instead of Jake, it's Muttley from
Speaker 1: Hanna Barbara. Now that's actually I would watch that would
Speaker 1: somehow just that just be a little more absurd?
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I don't know, it's seems like a like.
Speaker 2: I also really like David Fincher as a filmmaker in
Speaker 2: most cases, and like would love to see him continue
Speaker 2: to do cool things. And it sounds like our two
Speaker 2: options are just Hollywood bullshit. That yeah, feels feels like
Speaker 2: the sort of shit that is just like dreamed up
Speaker 2: in a like it exists because it makes sense in
Speaker 2: a boardroom setting and nowhere else.
Speaker 1: What about Chinatown? But Chinatown? Like do do like the
Speaker 1: squid game thing spin off reality show of Chinatown where
Speaker 1: contestants compete to develop the waterworks of la in the
Speaker 1: gritty backdrop of a city with immorals. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: we get Fincher involved. Yeah, now we're talking. Or just
Speaker 1: ask David Fincher what the fuck he wants to make?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Right?
Speaker 1: Like? Or is he or is he the fucking has Like, dude,
Speaker 1: I would love to do Chinatown prequel like a TV
Speaker 1: show version. You're like, oh my god, dude, what, Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't have like another seven that you can Like.
Speaker 2: They already asked him what he wanted to make, and
Speaker 2: he made a black and white movie called.
Speaker 1: So then maybe again, Like we've seen fucking just there,
Speaker 1: there's again. There's an entire generation of filmmakers, writers, people
Speaker 1: who have all kinds of wacky ideas that end up
Speaker 1: in really cool things can talk to them. Yeah, that
Speaker 1: end up on TikTok and that's why. But this is honestly,
Speaker 1: you know, this is like the same. It's this mentality
Speaker 1: that's driving like the embracing of AI because you have
Speaker 1: a bunch of scared people in C suites who are
Speaker 1: supposed to be decision makers and take risks, but they
Speaker 1: would rather retreat to the comfort of something predictable or whatever,
Speaker 1: and because their sort of perspective on what is creative
Speaker 1: or original or acceptable is completely different, like oh, yeah, man,
Speaker 1: this AI fucking thing could be cool, and oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you'd be cool. Yeah, let's reboot this thing that everybody
Speaker 1: has seen seven hundred fucking times. It's just not it.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, well yeah, yeah, well comeing to you. There
Speaker 1: you go.
Speaker 2: You know, I know of some screenplays that people should
Speaker 2: be checking out over on the show called Get It
Speaker 2: to Dutch. There it is, Yeah, greg Hess, thank you
Speaker 2: so much for joining us. Where can people find you?
Speaker 2: Follow you, hear you all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: It's always a pleasure. And you can find me on
Speaker 1: the socials at hey greg Hess, and yeah, go find
Speaker 1: Get It to Dutch on any anything you listen to
Speaker 1: and uh and Mega as well. But would love for
Speaker 1: people to listen to some put some screenplays in your ears.
Speaker 1: It's like going to the movies with your eyes closed.
Speaker 4: There.
Speaker 1: Wow, and these are and these aren't just you're not
Speaker 1: doing like re like a prequel to ET or some shit.
Speaker 1: The first movie out of the Gate is our attempt
Speaker 1: to write a Lord of the Rings like a movie
Speaker 1: and immediately goes off the rails. So if yeah, there's
Speaker 1: an erotic thriller in there, definitely there's our there's a
Speaker 1: nod to Garden State as I try to write my
Speaker 1: generational my movie of my generation, which is the Elder Millennial,
Speaker 1: and so I think, yeah, I think folks will enjoy it,
Speaker 1: so check it out. And even in that version, we're
Speaker 1: all listening to the Garden State soundtrack, and that's a
Speaker 1: big that's a big fight that we have because I
Speaker 1: wanted to be all Arcade Fire and the guys are
Speaker 1: like kind of like, guys, I'm two years younger than you.
Speaker 1: ArKade Fire was my Garden State soundtrack. You were into
Speaker 1: the Shins. I was more into ArKade Fire by that time.
Speaker 2: Amazing. Is there a work a media that you've been enjoying?
Speaker 1: Oh boy, the work of media. Well, I'll say one
Speaker 1: high brow thing. I loved Ripley speaking of cool black
Speaker 1: and white stuff happening on Netflix. Man, what a fantastic
Speaker 1: shot movie or series and written a piece of work.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I've just been watching those new
Speaker 1: Jimmy Glick clips online and got to say, Martin Short
Speaker 1: still got it. So one of the funniest people alive.
Speaker 1: And I will watch Jimmy Glick interview celebrities and make
Speaker 1: them laugh all day long. Still think it. It's one
Speaker 1: hundred percent success rate over here.
Speaker 2: You'll got it.
Speaker 1: In this house, we stand click, we stand click.
Speaker 2: And that's something that is agreed to on my front
Speaker 2: yard signs and across the political spectrum in this house.
Speaker 2: That's right, Dan click miles. Where can people find yous
Speaker 2: their work and media you've been enjoying? Ah?
Speaker 1: Man, you can find me wherever they have the symbol, Twitter,
Speaker 1: Instagram and the like at Miles of Gray. Can find
Speaker 1: Jack and I on the basketball podcast Miles and Jacket
Speaker 1: Mad Boosties. Miles and Jack got mad Boosties. I know,
Speaker 1: I say that very fast. That's the name of it.
Speaker 1: And I'm also talking about ninety day Fiance on four
Speaker 1: to twenty day Fiance some things I like, Oh I
Speaker 1: did hold on, it's this video. Someone made an animated
Speaker 1: like clip making fun of people who buy cyber trucks,
Speaker 1: and it's a pretty good cartoon. Let me just let
Speaker 1: me just play a little bit of it. I saw it.
Speaker 1: It's on Twitter at at Dan Harumi, I think is
Speaker 1: a person who originally uploaded this, and let me just
Speaker 1: have this play. WHOA, you got a cyber truck?
Speaker 6: Pretty sweet, right?
Speaker 1: How could you afford this?
Speaker 6: I had to take out a pretty big loan. But
Speaker 6: pretty soon the dollar is going to collapse anyway, so
Speaker 6: this thing will be practically free. But if the dollar collapses,
Speaker 6: how are you going to pay back the loan? You
Speaker 6: got to think about it as an investment. Pretty soon
Speaker 6: this is going to have full self drive, so I'll
Speaker 6: be able to rent it out as a robotaxi. I'll
Speaker 6: rent out my car while I sleep. It's passive income
Speaker 6: and anyway, pretty soon jobs will be automated with AI,
Speaker 6: so most people will be unemployed.
Speaker 1: But if nobody has money, who's gonna pay for your robotaxi.
Speaker 6: That doesn't matter, because if society collapses, you're gonna need
Speaker 6: a big, strong truck like this to protect yourself from
Speaker 6: the riots. You can withstand bullets, or at least you know,
Speaker 6: part of it can.
Speaker 1: Can I try it out?
Speaker 6: No, the battery is dead. I can actually have enough
Speaker 6: to buy the Tesla wall connector thing. I kind of
Speaker 6: assumed it would just come with a truck, so.
Speaker 1: You didn't get the charger. I'm going to.
Speaker 6: I just need the price of bitcoin to go up.
Speaker 1: I just love that logic. Well, pretty soon a's be
Speaker 1: a ROBOTAXI.
Speaker 2: I feel like that conversation has literally happened.
Speaker 1: That's happening right outside all of our houses here right now. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien.
Speaker 2: A tweet I've been enjoying from Rachel a tormino. We
Speaker 2: did wow, said the two year old neighbor boy petting
Speaker 2: one of our kats for the first time. There are
Speaker 2: bones in here. Take surprise. You know. You can find
Speaker 2: me on Twitter at Jack Underscore Brian. You can find
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Speaker 2: foot note for no link off to the information that
Speaker 2: we talked about in today's episode, as well as a
Speaker 2: song that we think you might enjoy. Miles, what song
Speaker 2: do we think people might enjoy?
Speaker 1: Oddly enough, I was just thinking about the band Zero seven,
Speaker 1: who is also on the Garden State soundtrack. But this
Speaker 1: is a track called mer Surmise and the artist is
Speaker 1: called Osvaldo a os v A l d O. And
Speaker 1: it feels like a zero seven like backing track. There's
Speaker 1: no lyrics or anything, no vocals on it, but it
Speaker 1: just has like that's like easy groover aspect to it,
Speaker 1: and the drumming is like a little bit off, but
Speaker 1: like in a funky way. So I think you'll like this.
Speaker 1: It's called mer Surmise by Oswaldo.
Speaker 2: All right, well, we will link off to that in
Speaker 2: the footnote.
Speaker 1: Today.
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Speaker 1: Bye bye,