1 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:06,880 Speaker 1: Revere redly dalks. 2 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:10,760 Speaker 2: Look at this now. Tip to Tim. This is our life, 3 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 2: this is our passion. That's the spirit we bring. 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,360 Speaker 1: To this show. 5 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: I'm Luke Thomas, I'm Brian Campbell. 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:24,759 Speaker 1: This this Morning Combat. Hey, it's the fourteenth of November 7 00:00:25,680 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 1: and we're tired of shit. Hi everyone, it's Morning Combat, 8 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: Monday edition post UFC two eighty one edition. My name 9 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. I am merely one half of your 10 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:39,880 Speaker 1: hosting duo. I join you from the capital of the 11 00:00:39,920 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: stadas Anitos right here in Washington, DC, joined by my 12 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 1: editorial life mate. He's that BC with that CTE. I 13 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 1: sound like I'm dying of fucking lung cancer. I'm just 14 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm just awful. Hi, Brian Campbell, how are you? 15 00:00:57,000 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: I'm I'm you know, I'm wounded, Luca. But you know 16 00:01:01,000 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 2: they've called me a red light guy before, and no, 17 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 2: that has nothing to do with Amsterdam. You know, you may, 18 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:10,360 Speaker 2: you know, you may fall apart on this show. Looke, 19 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,680 Speaker 2: but I'll get you across that finish line. Okay, you 20 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,400 Speaker 2: can call me Sully Stullenberger. 21 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:19,760 Speaker 1: Gonna drive playing into some geese. 22 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: Huh uh No, Look, what a weekend, What a week. 23 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,160 Speaker 2: What an event. UFC two eighty one couldn't be more 24 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,400 Speaker 2: fired up to break it down. We've got a very 25 00:01:29,440 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 2: special guest just seconds away, Luke, and really you arguably 26 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 2: the best Canadian journalists of all time. But Luke Thomas 27 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:41,280 Speaker 2: jokes ad reads aside rip to one of the great 28 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 2: ones and this is obviously a shocker, Anthony Rumble Johnson, 29 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:46,760 Speaker 2: thirty eight years old. We'll have more later in the 30 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 2: show on his you know, life in legacy. But some 31 00:01:50,040 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: sad news coming off a wild card at New York City. 32 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a lot of good news from the 33 00:01:54,520 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: event itself. It was one of the best events we've 34 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: seen in some time. UFC two eighty one totally delivered. 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 1: BC had talked all week about that MSG magic and 36 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: you got to see it. There was good evidence of it. 37 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,760 Speaker 1: But then, of course, yesterday some somber news that basically 38 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: Anthony Rebel Johnson had passed away. We'll talk about that 39 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: in a minute, just very quickly, thumbs up. 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Put a little of 59 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:04,680 Speaker 2: that fall headwear on your dome as you're out at 60 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,320 Speaker 2: the kids' soccer match. All right, you know, whatever whatever 61 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 2: you do, Okay, whatever you do, do it with us, 62 00:03:10,520 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 2: all right, you know. 63 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 1: What I mean, Just yeah, yeah, bang with us. You 64 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Bang with us. 65 00:03:16,560 --> 00:03:19,359 Speaker 2: Look, there's some concerns about your health. Can you put 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: that to rest, Luke, beyond just I'm fine. 67 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:24,080 Speaker 1: I'm just run down. I'm just run down, that's all. 68 00:03:24,160 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: That's really no more to it than that. Remember, even 69 00:03:25,880 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: when I get home, like my sleep's kind of messed 70 00:03:27,880 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 1: up already. And then so when you go on the road, 71 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: if you're like, oh well, then you know your family's 72 00:03:31,800 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: not there, you can sleep in. But I actually have 73 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 1: problems sleeping in hotels, so it actually just stays just 74 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: as bad, if not gets gets worse. So, uh, I'm fine. 75 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 1: I had a bit of a cold. It's almost done with. 76 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 1: It's not that serious. I'm just I was just doing 77 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: to WASBC. 78 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: I was just. 79 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: Tired yesterday, bro, I was just tired. I was really tired. 80 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 2: Been there done. 81 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: Other than that, I should be in a day or two, 82 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: I should be totally fine. 83 00:03:52,680 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 2: I mean, I was a salty old bitch and Phoenix, Luke, Okay, 84 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 2: happy I got out of that trip alive. Okay, but 85 00:03:58,000 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 2: we are. We have the best job in the world, 86 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 2: So let's get fired up to do it and let's 87 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:03,600 Speaker 2: bring can we can we bring that guy in? He's 88 00:04:03,600 --> 00:04:04,640 Speaker 2: been wasting. 89 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:06,960 Speaker 1: One more note. One more note Morning Coombat at Gmail 90 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: dot com for Wednesday's fan subs Friday's Dead Wrong Morningcombat 91 00:04:10,680 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. That's the place to go. Now. 92 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: We have a lot to get to and when what 93 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:16,360 Speaker 1: we like to do is when BC and I both 94 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,760 Speaker 1: do the post fight show, we like to get a 95 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 1: third voice in here. We need an aeradyite voice. We 96 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: need an accomplished voice. We need an experienced voice, you know, 97 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:25,719 Speaker 1: we need to see. We need a Canadian voice. 98 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 2: D here does that mean he only likes white people? Look, 99 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 2: what does that even mean? 100 00:04:30,200 --> 00:04:34,159 Speaker 1: Well, he's he's well learned. He he is educated, he 101 00:04:34,200 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: knows a lot. 102 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, smart man. Let's bring him in right now, Luke, 103 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 2: let's do. 104 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,839 Speaker 1: It all right. Aaron bron Setter joins us now from 105 00:04:40,880 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: TSN in Toronto, Canada. What's up? Hey, Look, we have 106 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 1: glasses that are similar. How about that? 107 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: Except you got the coating on you know, you know 108 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:51,560 Speaker 3: you have the purple glare. 109 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't. 110 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 3: I couldn't wear glasses with it because it drove me 111 00:04:54,320 --> 00:04:57,440 Speaker 3: crazy seeing it on screen. So I got no, uh, 112 00:04:58,680 --> 00:05:01,160 Speaker 3: the coatings and no coatings mind, because the blue light thing, 113 00:05:01,200 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: it's kind of a lot of people, you ask I 114 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 3: asked my optometrist apparently overrated. But either way, AB from 115 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 3: the home of bto is here is let's take care 116 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 3: of some business. 117 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, AB, the the Elvis Costello of mixed Martial Arts. 118 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 2: Always a pleasure to chat with him. Look, you know 119 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 2: he made it back to Toronto from New York. But AB, 120 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 2: have you been now to all six UFC at MSG events? 121 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 2: Is this a fact? 122 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 3: I missed one? So my daughter was born six weeks early. 123 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 3: I was supposed to go to the monkedon card and 124 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 3: then the week later was the MSG card, which was 125 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 3: if I was gonna miss any MSG card, it would 126 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 3: be this one. It was the Cormier Derek Lewis card. Yeah, 127 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 3: that was the only MSG card that I was unable to. 128 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:39,800 Speaker 2: You didn't miss much right there? 129 00:05:39,839 --> 00:05:39,960 Speaker 1: Then? 130 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:42,160 Speaker 2: Can we start right off the top, Aaron, what you 131 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:45,360 Speaker 2: saw at UFC two eighty one, what you felt inside 132 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,640 Speaker 2: that building? Are we talking about something in contention with 133 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:51,840 Speaker 2: UFC two O five two seventeen as the best, uh? 134 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 2: You know in this six seven year run since UFC 135 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,039 Speaker 2: has been allowed back in there. 136 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,039 Speaker 3: I think it was for sure the most entertaining of 137 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 3: the cards. Like if you were gonna look at it 138 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: from top to bottom, the entertainment quotient was super high. 139 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,320 Speaker 3: But when you're comparing it to some of those other events, 140 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,640 Speaker 3: were the stakes as high. I'm not sure you could 141 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 3: argue that, but I think that you could certainly look 142 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 3: at I mean, we had one where there were three 143 00:06:11,640 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 3: titles on the line Steaks through the Roof for that 144 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,839 Speaker 3: particular card, and that card really delivered as well. But 145 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:19,880 Speaker 3: that card on Saturday was really something special, just from 146 00:06:19,880 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 3: top to bottom, all action, incredible fights. I was surprised 147 00:06:23,320 --> 00:06:25,440 Speaker 3: they didn't give bonuses to everybody who got to finish 148 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,760 Speaker 3: on that card because it's certainly delivered and the fans 149 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:30,719 Speaker 3: were really, of course eating it up like they always 150 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: do it. 151 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: MSG. By the way, when you get back into Canada, 152 00:06:35,080 --> 00:06:37,359 Speaker 1: do you have global entry? I'm just curious. I do. 153 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, the greatest thing ever. 154 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah it is you fuck all right, I'm so jealous. 155 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: Now all right, well let's do this if we can. 156 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: B C. Let's start with topic number one at the 157 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:47,520 Speaker 1: end of these, Aaron, I do want to get some 158 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: of your thoughts on Rumble Johnson, but we'll save that 159 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: for the end of the topics. So first things first, 160 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: let's start with where this conversation starts. We have a 161 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:57,039 Speaker 1: new middleweight champion. Nine new champions, by the way, in 162 00:06:57,040 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two in the UFC. This would now be 163 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: of adding to that list, all right. So ox Panedta 164 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,680 Speaker 1: wins fifth round stoppage despite the fact that the champion 165 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,480 Speaker 1: was up very excuse me, it's not a bad habit. 166 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 1: The former champion was up on thirty nine thirty seven 167 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: on all three judges scorecards heading into the fifth uh 168 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:19,480 Speaker 1: Erin if I had to ask you what the single 169 00:07:20,040 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: biggest determining factor of Preeda's success in that fight, what 170 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: is it? 171 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 3: I think Israel kind of spelled it out. Israel's leg 172 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 3: was horribly compromised. I mean, he said that the calf 173 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: kicks over the course of the fight took their toll, 174 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 3: and that'll stifle his mobility. That'll make it also something 175 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:40,559 Speaker 3: that he has to really think about. If you're starting 176 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 3: to move and your leg is unable to hold your 177 00:07:43,920 --> 00:07:46,480 Speaker 3: body weight, those are the kind of things that will 178 00:07:46,520 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 3: put you in a position where you're stationary, and that's 179 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: not where Israel wants to be. Was up against the 180 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:54,760 Speaker 3: cage and Alex Perera. You know, the commentary team always 181 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 3: does a good job, but in this particular case, them 182 00:07:57,280 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: continuously pointing out that the guy hasn't fought five rounds, 183 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 3: I think is erroneous and listen at MMA, that is 184 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 3: one hundred percent true. But him going five rounds in 185 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: back to back fights against Artem Vakitov, which were just 186 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 3: volume striking, volume striking, you could see that his power 187 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: would carry for the duration of the fight. This guy's 188 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 3: got in my opinion, he's the most credential striker we've 189 00:08:16,040 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 3: ever seen in MMA. If you look at what he 190 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 3: did in Glory becoming a two division champion. This guy 191 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: is so dangerous all the time, and he put in 192 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 3: the legwork no pun intended early on in that fight 193 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 3: to take away the balance of Israel, and that's I 194 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:32,560 Speaker 3: think was the X factor down the stretch. 195 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:36,000 Speaker 2: Aaron issue was up three to one entering that fifth 196 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:39,440 Speaker 2: round before having this information, which obviously seems to be 197 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 2: huge the effect of the calf strikes without having it 198 00:08:42,720 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 2: after the fight, I was critical of let's say the 199 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,839 Speaker 2: you know, we talked about what the lack of experience 200 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: in Peira cost him in MMA. I argue that that, 201 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 2: you know is he seemed to make a mistake that 202 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 2: set up that finish that was out a character that 203 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,439 Speaker 2: you know he had too much experience to do that. 204 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 2: But we find out he feels like he couldn't have 205 00:09:02,840 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 2: shot for a takedown and he certainly didn't have the 206 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 2: mobility with that. So knowing that, do you look at 207 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 2: this as you know more result of Pereira is just 208 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:16,679 Speaker 2: so poised and he never went away, or do you 209 00:09:16,760 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 2: look at Atasnya being in the lead there and put 210 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 2: a large percentage on what he didn't do that allowed 211 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 2: this to happen. 212 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: Well, I think it's a little bit of both. I 213 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:27,160 Speaker 3: don't think it's one or the other. The thing about 214 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:31,760 Speaker 3: Alex Pereira is his striking is so good that at 215 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: any point in that time, if he finds one little opening, 216 00:09:33,920 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 3: that's all it would take. And if you looked at 217 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: the live odds going into the final round, Israel was 218 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 3: a thirteen to one favorite. I think that anybody looking 219 00:09:41,559 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 3: at that kind of a line needs to know that 220 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 3: Alex Pereira is not gonna go away here. His corner 221 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:49,199 Speaker 3: inspired him. In between rounds, he knew that he needed 222 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:50,840 Speaker 3: to get a finish in that round. I'm sure that 223 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:53,199 Speaker 3: the level of urgency in his corner told him that 224 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,320 Speaker 3: and I don't think that you can really take too 225 00:09:56,400 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 3: much away from Israel because he fought brilliantly up until 226 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,320 Speaker 3: that fifth round. He really did, you know, lost that 227 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 3: second round, but it was still a relatively close round. 228 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:05,160 Speaker 3: It's not like Israel ran away with it or sorry 229 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 3: Alex rather ran away with it in the second. So, 230 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 3: you know, I hate to take anything away from Israel 231 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 3: other than the fact that maybe next time around he's 232 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 3: going to have to be a little bit more careful 233 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:18,000 Speaker 3: with his defense in terms of lower body. But otherwise, 234 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:20,000 Speaker 3: if you look at him going into you know how 235 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:22,800 Speaker 3: he fought up until that point, thought really really well. 236 00:10:22,840 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 3: So that that's why I think a rematch is just 237 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 3: something that we have to see next. It was such 238 00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,680 Speaker 3: a dynamic fight, and the tempo changed and the tone 239 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:36,440 Speaker 3: changed so quickly that I think that has to be next, unless, 240 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:38,679 Speaker 3: of course, Israel is badly hurt, which he kind of 241 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 3: alluded to after the fight in his press conference that 242 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 3: there were some health problems going on behind the scenes 243 00:10:44,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 3: that he never talks about so well, whether or not, 244 00:10:47,679 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 3: ling who knows. 245 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're not a doctor, and he gave us very 246 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: limited information, but he was somewhat comparison comparing I guess 247 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:59,040 Speaker 2: what he's feeling to the late actor Chadwick Boseman, who 248 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 2: you know had fallen into what did he have cancer? 249 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,640 Speaker 2: I'm trying to catch up in my mind quickly. You know, 250 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:08,240 Speaker 2: didn't reveal it, fought through, made made some final films, 251 00:11:08,280 --> 00:11:12,240 Speaker 2: and unfortunately passed. That seems a pretty huge comparison for 252 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,720 Speaker 2: is he to make. And he was also referencing people 253 00:11:14,760 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 2: making fun of him, which I'm assuming is the left 254 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,040 Speaker 2: nipple and saying, you know, I've got some legitimate health concerns. Afterwards, 255 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 2: I got to go back and fix like armchair quarterbacking 256 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 2: without a medical degree. What does that actually mean? Because 257 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: that's a pretty large reveal after you know, his first 258 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: middleweight title loss after such an incredible run. I mean, 259 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 2: are we concerned here, Let's let's just talk openly here. 260 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 2: What does that mean to you? 261 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:42,199 Speaker 3: It's hard to say. I mean, like you said, he 262 00:11:42,240 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 3: was bailed in secrecy, but that is a pretty in 263 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 3: terms of the comparison to Chadwick Boseman. I mean, it's 264 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:50,599 Speaker 3: got to be something somewhat serious if he's going to 265 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: make that kind of a comparison. Unless the comparison was 266 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 3: just you don't know what people are going through behind 267 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,920 Speaker 3: closed doors. If that's what he was alluding to, then 268 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:01,240 Speaker 3: maybe it's something different. But yeah, hopefully whatever it is, 269 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 3: it's something that he can come back from. But he's, 270 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:05,440 Speaker 3: like he said, he's bought three times in ten months 271 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:07,560 Speaker 3: and he's been very active. So if it was something 272 00:12:07,600 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: that was going to hinder him dramatically, I don't know 273 00:12:09,920 --> 00:12:11,800 Speaker 3: if he would have taken three BYZ in ten months. 274 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: Also, just from my point of view erin it looked 275 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 1: to me like he thought, I mean, you mentioned it. 276 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 1: He was up thirty nine, thirty seven. Like, I'm not 277 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: here to say that his comparison is overblown. I don't 278 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,439 Speaker 1: have enough information to make that claim. But just based 279 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,120 Speaker 1: on what we saw in the octagon for twenty plus minutes, 280 00:12:28,360 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: he looked pretty good. He looked pretty healthy, he looked strong, 281 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: he looked like he was in good shape. So I 282 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: don't want to I don't want to make a claim 283 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,080 Speaker 1: one way or the other, but I guess I would 284 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:39,839 Speaker 1: have a little bit more comfort, just a little bit, 285 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: knowing he looked as good as he did even in 286 00:12:42,320 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: a losing effort. Do you share that sentiment? 287 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, I think that that's a very good way 288 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,719 Speaker 3: of putting it. And I just thought that early on 289 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,199 Speaker 3: the way that he incorporated a lot of the different 290 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:56,679 Speaker 3: elements of MMA that weren't available to Alex in kickboxing, 291 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 3: I thought really threw him off of his game. The 292 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 3: hand fighting in particular, I thought was something that really 293 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 3: stood out in those first couple of rounds where he 294 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 3: was grabbing the wrist, he was grabbing the gloves, he 295 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,000 Speaker 3: was doing things that are legal in MMA that you 296 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 3: don't see in kickboxing to kind of show Alex like, listen, 297 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:11,720 Speaker 3: this is a different world here, this is a different realm, 298 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,120 Speaker 3: and you're gonna have to beat me without all the 299 00:13:14,320 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 3: same available tools that you had, or at least you know, 300 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,959 Speaker 3: you have to have more of the tools that make 301 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: a complete mixed martial artist in order to defeat me 302 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 3: in my world. And I thought that he outclassed Alex 303 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,839 Speaker 3: pretty early on in that fight. And then, like I mentioned, 304 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: that power of Alec pereiras no joke, and all it 305 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 3: takes is one single strike to throw you off of 306 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:37,040 Speaker 3: your game. That's how powerful this guy is. And when 307 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:39,080 Speaker 3: I see all these people being like, oh, well, he's 308 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 3: not facing guys that can take him down. He's you know, 309 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,520 Speaker 3: Robert Whitiker would take him down and hold him there. 310 00:13:44,040 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 3: Try getting close to this guy, you know, try taking 311 00:13:46,679 --> 00:13:48,679 Speaker 3: him down and getting hit with elbows to the side 312 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 3: of the head or getting hit with uppercuts. People are 313 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 3: just completely dismissing the primary weapon of this guy just 314 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 3: because his ground game might not be quite as refined. 315 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 1: I will say, what kind of stands out to me 316 00:13:59,160 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: about this whole fight was that basically Alex did to 317 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: Izzy what is he did to that division? Where he 318 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: is he had this massive striking advantage basically over the 319 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 1: rest of the division, and he could play prevent defense 320 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,679 Speaker 1: everywhere he needed to to more or less let that 321 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,960 Speaker 1: rain over the course of his fights. But that didn't 322 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,120 Speaker 1: work against Pareta because he couldn't. He got one takedown 323 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:22,880 Speaker 1: of four and that was nice, that third round one 324 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: that was pretty good, but he could never really replicate it. 325 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 1: And so as a consequence, like is he forcing his 326 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: opponents to stand, he kind of had to spend much 327 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: more time in a let what do you want to 328 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 1: call it, a risk centric way of the place, you know, 329 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: up against the cage, where there's just a shit ton 330 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 1: of risk and obviously Alex is the more devastating kickboxer 331 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 1: of the two. So do you feel like Paeda kind 332 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 1: of used Izzy's magic against him in the way that 333 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:51,280 Speaker 1: is he had used it against the division. 334 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,520 Speaker 3: Well, if anything, he just leveled the playing field, right. 335 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,560 Speaker 3: I mean, Israel was such a step ahead of the 336 00:14:56,560 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 3: competition in terms of striking that what's the thing that's 337 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 3: going to take Israel out of his game? And maybe 338 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 3: it's a heavy grappling approach that somebody like a bon 339 00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 3: Nickel eventually would have taken against him. But if you 340 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 3: take somebody who's as could have a striker, or even 341 00:15:09,480 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 3: better of a striker, be he's like I mentioned, I 342 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 3: think that in terms of credentials, it doesn't get much 343 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:16,520 Speaker 3: better than Alex Pereira. In terms of mma, I think 344 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:18,800 Speaker 3: that he just kind of has found his match in 345 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 3: terms of what he is best at. And yeah, that 346 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:22,680 Speaker 3: was going to be the thing that was the X 347 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 3: factor in this fight and turned out to be that thing. 348 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 3: And as much as Israel was using a lot of 349 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:29,840 Speaker 3: the different elements of MMA, that took Alex out of 350 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,880 Speaker 3: his you know, primary, you know, best path to victory. 351 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,720 Speaker 3: I do think that when you look at what Alex 352 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:38,520 Speaker 3: was able to do in there eventually, and just by 353 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 3: by staying in the fight, by being motivated, by knowing 354 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 3: that his power was going to translate, and that in 355 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 3: his mind, I'm sure he felt he was the superior striker, 356 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,080 Speaker 3: was enough for him to continue to be a threat 357 00:15:48,120 --> 00:15:49,560 Speaker 3: as the entire fight went on. 358 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and when you say level of the playing field, 359 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:53,680 Speaker 2: you have to go back to those calf kicks by 360 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 2: by Pereira. That's the best thing you could do against 361 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 2: somebody who moves so well with great footwork and then 362 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: obviously has all time great sublime striking work like that. 363 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 2: I mean, we've never seen is he compromised like that, 364 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 2: where if it wasn't a miscalculation of the danger that 365 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 2: he faced, you know, or he had to stay in 366 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: the pocket because of the calf kicks putting him there. 367 00:16:13,280 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 2: That's the best way that Pereyra was able to overcome 368 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 2: the lack of experience between them. And really, you know 369 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:21,040 Speaker 2: a lot of that the technique, even though obviously what 370 00:16:21,080 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 2: Alex Perera does is we just saw is very dangerous 371 00:16:23,680 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 2: on itself. That level of the playing field more than anything, so, Aaron, 372 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 2: we've played up the narrative coming in of you know, 373 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,560 Speaker 2: does Pereerra have Izzy's number and will that factor into 374 00:16:34,600 --> 00:16:37,480 Speaker 2: this fight? Now we're likely heading into a rematch, as 375 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 2: you mentioned, and you know the early odds makers that 376 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 2: flood out those emails have at Asnia as the potential 377 00:16:42,680 --> 00:16:45,120 Speaker 2: favor in a rematch. Well, hey, he controlled that fight 378 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 2: for four and a half rounds before being stopped. I 379 00:16:47,080 --> 00:16:50,720 Speaker 2: get that, But do you think this only adds to 380 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 2: whatever percentage of that pie is true that Perera is 381 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,400 Speaker 2: or will still be in Izzy's head. I mean, when 382 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,480 Speaker 2: you've beaten a guy twice, including by knockout, then you 383 00:17:00,560 --> 00:17:03,800 Speaker 2: follow him into his new sport and you knock him 384 00:17:03,840 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 2: out after losing four plus rounds. It was literally a 385 00:17:07,680 --> 00:17:10,479 Speaker 2: redo of their second kickbox and fight in how that 386 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 2: played out, you know what type of mental rebuilding is 387 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 2: is he going to have to do knowing that this 388 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: guy's got him twice. 389 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 3: Now, Well, you know, it's funny, and I think the 390 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 3: odds are based on the fact that if you look 391 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:24,119 Speaker 3: at the duration of all three of those fights and 392 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 3: you were to say who is winning the majority of 393 00:17:26,760 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 3: these fights, Israel is the clear answer. Like Israel is 394 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:32,479 Speaker 3: winning and dictating the pace of a lot of the 395 00:17:32,520 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 3: time of that fight. But again at that primary weapon 396 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,640 Speaker 3: of Ferrera and his ability to find that left hook. 397 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 3: No matter how much you know that it's coming, he's 398 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 3: always able to find it. And that's what makes him, 399 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:46,040 Speaker 3: in my opinion, such a devastating fighter and such a 400 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 3: big threat to anybody that faces him because you know 401 00:17:48,400 --> 00:17:51,159 Speaker 3: what's coming. And even though I think in terms of 402 00:17:51,200 --> 00:17:53,920 Speaker 3: his matchups in the UFC, you know, Bruno Santos thought 403 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 3: a really good defensive game plan because he was I think, 404 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:58,959 Speaker 3: fighting knowing that that left hook was going to come 405 00:17:58,960 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 3: out of nowhere. Even still, he's so devastating with it 406 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:05,359 Speaker 3: and so precise with it, and it's comes so quickly 407 00:18:05,400 --> 00:18:08,159 Speaker 3: that no matter how much you prepare for this, you know, 408 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 3: I think that he's always going to have that weapon 409 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 3: at his disposal as long as a fight goes on. 410 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,959 Speaker 3: So even if Israel wins four and a half rounds, 411 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 3: you just never know if that left hook is going 412 00:18:16,800 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 3: to be able to connect. And that's what makes this 413 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: such an intriguing matchup if it happens for a fourth time, 414 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 3: because will Israel finally be able to get the best 415 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 3: of them. Israel knows what's coming Israel's a brilliant, brilliant fighter. 416 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 3: He's got high as high fight IQ as anybody that 417 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:32,440 Speaker 3: there is. But no matter how many of those intangibles 418 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:35,439 Speaker 3: you have, when Pereira has that left hand and the 419 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 3: speed and precision in which he's able to execute with, 420 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,000 Speaker 3: he's just so dangerous at all times. 421 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:42,879 Speaker 1: All right, So then let's talk about what is next. Now. 422 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 1: You want to see the rematch, fine, but make the 423 00:18:45,520 --> 00:18:48,840 Speaker 1: case for me along these lines, right, make the case 424 00:18:49,280 --> 00:18:52,640 Speaker 1: for the viewers for us here that the second fight 425 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:55,560 Speaker 1: between them in MMA the fourth overall, which is crazy, 426 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: But make the case that that's a better choice than 427 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: booking Robert Whitaker. I know he's gonna fight with Paula Costa, 428 00:19:02,080 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: but just hear me out. They could they could change 429 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: that if they wanted to booking Robert Whittaker. Where then 430 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: is he gets the winner of Whittaker versus Patta. 431 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:13,520 Speaker 3: Well, the case that I'm making is one that's full 432 00:19:13,520 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 3: of money, because you don't want to squander this rematch, right, 433 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,199 Speaker 3: I mean that's the case. If you're a promotion, you 434 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 3: know that that's the fight to make. I mean, everybody's 435 00:19:22,520 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: gonna want to see it again. I don't think anybody's 436 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 3: gonna walk into that fight being like, Oh, this guy 437 00:19:26,320 --> 00:19:28,480 Speaker 3: just has Israel's number, he's gonna it's gonna be, you know, 438 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 3: four and zero for Alex. I think everybody's intrigued as 439 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,639 Speaker 3: ever after that fight on Saturday, because people saw that 440 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,120 Speaker 3: Israel had that fight like it was in the palm 441 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 3: of his hands, and all of the talk about all 442 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 3: of this guy's you know, he can't go five rounds. 443 00:19:41,480 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 3: He doesn't know what he's getting into here. Completely. That 444 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 3: narrative's gone. It's out the window. And rip up that 445 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:47,919 Speaker 3: piece of paper and throw it, throw it away, because 446 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 3: that's what makes this rematch a necessity. Like, I just 447 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 3: think that unless again there's some sort of health ramifications here, 448 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 3: it's the clear fight to make next. 449 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:01,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you just nailed it. I love Rober Widker, 450 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:03,680 Speaker 2: but you nailed it. I didn't want to let any 451 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 2: time go by, though, without giving you a chance to 452 00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: comment on what's going on in Connecticut. And I don't 453 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 2: just mean you know that my career, Chuck Mindenhall's, I 454 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:14,680 Speaker 2: mean greater Dan Barry Bethel Connecticut in what that gym's 455 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: doing with Glover to share a for Nelly Felice Senor. 456 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 2: I mean, look, dom Reyes did not have a great 457 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: comeback fight. That's a separate topic though, but they now 458 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 2: got two world champions out of that, Jim Glover getting 459 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: a chance to regain his back. Is this just like right, 460 00:20:30,600 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 2: two or three group of guys at the right time, 461 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 2: or do you think that that Glover's building something special there? 462 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:36,920 Speaker 1: Yeah? 463 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 3: I think that Glover's you know, to share a mix Marshall, 464 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 3: It's gonna be a destination for people. And you look 465 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 3: at that coaching team. You got him, you got Pulino Cruz, 466 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 3: you mentioned Phelise. I mean, it's just a really solid 467 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 3: team that is building great fighters. And we also do 468 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,960 Speaker 3: have to point out though, on that card, the two 469 00:20:53,000 --> 00:20:55,720 Speaker 3: fighters from that gym that fought prior to Alex lost 470 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 3: and Alex has to have that in the back of 471 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 3: his head going into that final fight, right. So while 472 00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:02,359 Speaker 3: they are building a lot of good talent, you know, 473 00:21:02,520 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 3: I still think that the cream is going to rise 474 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,159 Speaker 3: to the top. And you know, it was sad to 475 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 3: see dominic reyis losing the way that he did. Wellington 476 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 3: Tternman I think was a little bit outmatched as well. 477 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 3: But you know, I just think that that is a 478 00:21:12,800 --> 00:21:15,880 Speaker 3: great situation for those fighters because they can focus entirely 479 00:21:15,920 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 3: on fighting. I don't know how familiar you are with 480 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: the greater Danbury area, but I can't imagine that there 481 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:22,720 Speaker 3: are too many distractions from the fighting world. And one 482 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 3: of my favorites, do you guys watch the UFC countdown? 483 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: Yes? 484 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,960 Speaker 3: Yes, My favorite is it's like a Rambo scene and 485 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 3: you've got Alex with the the archery and the bow 486 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:32,879 Speaker 3: and arrow, and you see him in the trees, and 487 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 3: then it just turns out to be like Glover's backyard 488 00:21:34,760 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 3: and he's out on the porch waving to him. I 489 00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:37,880 Speaker 3: just thought that that was a that was a weird 490 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 3: U cinematic choice. But yeah, I just think that these 491 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 3: guys could focus entirely on fighting, and that's what makes 492 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 3: it such a cool gym and a good situation for 493 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 3: these fighters. 494 00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: Also, we didn't really talk about it on Saturday. We 495 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:50,880 Speaker 1: don't have time to get into it. Today, it does 496 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: seem like, yes, it's a good place for fighters to 497 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: go to. But the Glover Alex connection appears to be 498 00:21:56,520 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: extra special, right. That appears to be something that they're 499 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: both getting from each other that I'm not sure they 500 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:05,320 Speaker 1: can even share with the wider Jim no matter what. 501 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 1: They seem to have some kind of you know, Yoda 502 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:11,280 Speaker 1: Luke Skywalker kind of bond going on, and it's lifting 503 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: their performances to put them mildly. All right, let's talk 504 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 1: about the co main event here, Aaron Jong Wi Lee. 505 00:22:16,359 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: I mean this one of all the fights on the card, 506 00:22:19,080 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: you know, this one in the Aaron Blanchfield ones we 507 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 1: kind of saw coming. Sure enough. We did think that 508 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: carls Barza put up a little bit better of a 509 00:22:26,680 --> 00:22:30,160 Speaker 1: fight than maybe some of her most negative detractors would 510 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:32,400 Speaker 1: have thought. But in the end it was academic. Jeong 511 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,520 Speaker 1: Wi Lee gets the submission from crucifix if you can 512 00:22:35,560 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 1: believe that shit. All right, yeah, the crucifix from the back. 513 00:22:39,240 --> 00:22:42,840 Speaker 1: So let me ask the question this way, how long 514 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,639 Speaker 1: will this championship reign of Jong Wi Lee last? Aaron Bronstetter, Well. 515 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:51,919 Speaker 3: I think that we are buying into a little bit 516 00:22:51,960 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 3: of recency bias here, because I you know, going into 517 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 3: this fight, you heard people talking about this, and as 518 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 3: the fight went on, you're thinking outside catastrophic injury, there's 519 00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 3: no path here for Carla Asparza. As difficult as that 520 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 3: is to say, because we're talking about a championship fighters 521 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 3: like where was the path? Anytime they get into grappling exchanges, 522 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 3: Jong had answers and that was That's Carlo's primary weapon, 523 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 3: and she was able to completely nullify it. I think 524 00:23:19,160 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 3: that Jong Wee Lee looked really good in that fight 525 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 3: and also in the Yohanna fight, as a result of 526 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: the quality of opponent, not necessarily that Janvey Lee is 527 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: at this stage so much head and shoulders above the rest. 528 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 3: I mean, she's lost twice to Rose. I think that 529 00:23:34,080 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 3: we're seeing Amandalaimos start to come on as well, and 530 00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,359 Speaker 3: I think selfishly that's the fight I would like to 531 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 3: see next because I just think there'd be an amazing matchup. 532 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,199 Speaker 3: You know, andraj got caught by Jean Wee Lee in 533 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: that first fight. That doesn't necessarily mean that she can't 534 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 3: beat her if they were to match up again. I 535 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:51,840 Speaker 3: just think right now Jeong is riding so high based 536 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 3: on what we've seen from her recently, that it makes 537 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 3: it difficult to think that anybody's going to be able 538 00:23:56,080 --> 00:23:58,359 Speaker 3: to beat her. But that being said, I think that 539 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 3: might just be the the matchup in those situations for her. 540 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,719 Speaker 3: I thought those were very favorable matchups, and you can 541 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,560 Speaker 3: always look really really good in those situations. 542 00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,760 Speaker 2: To some degree, I agree on the favorable matchups there, 543 00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 2: I also agree that you know, she's in the conversation 544 00:24:14,840 --> 00:24:18,160 Speaker 2: here for two time champion, the way she's rounding out 545 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 2: her game, the how dominant she is in certain skills 546 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,480 Speaker 2: young Wayles and entering the conversation soon of you know, 547 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:26,960 Speaker 2: potentially being the best straway we've ever seen in this deep, 548 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 2: great division. But Luke asking you how long the rain 549 00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,959 Speaker 2: will last really really resides in whether she can finally 550 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 2: get over that rose hill. And while I'm more of 551 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 2: a rose homer and you know, five star review on 552 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,640 Speaker 2: that documentary there, UFC five pass well done, I want 553 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 2: that trilogy next to ultimately decide that. But here's the deal. 554 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 2: I think if we're going to take a lot from 555 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 2: this performance from Wayley mixed with the other two performances 556 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 2: one win, one loss since losing her belt, it's how 557 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 2: she's rounding out her ground game first and wrestling now 558 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 2: showing you what you can do with the you know, 559 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 2: submission game here too. That's gonna help her completely round 560 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,400 Speaker 2: out and be great against against anybody. But I think 561 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: it's the striking gap that's still preventing her from getting 562 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,920 Speaker 2: over the hill against Rose. I want to know, Abe, 563 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 2: if you agree with that and in what you think 564 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 2: a line would look like betting wise, if Rose versus 565 00:25:19,040 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 2: Waylee was next for the trilogy, I. 566 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:24,119 Speaker 3: Think way Lee would be probably a minus one fifty 567 00:25:24,119 --> 00:25:26,520 Speaker 3: favorite if I had to guess something along those lines. 568 00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,280 Speaker 3: I think, like you mentioned with Waylee, the well roundedness 569 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,360 Speaker 3: is her, you know, biggest thing you know. On the feet, 570 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 3: she can hang with anybody on the ground. She can 571 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:39,399 Speaker 3: hang with anybody, So you're gonna have to fight a 572 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:42,360 Speaker 3: pretty perfect game plan like Rose did last year at MSG. 573 00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 3: Mind you to beat somebody as good as Joan Waylee 574 00:25:47,040 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: if if she fights Lamos, I think Lamos has a 575 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 3: really good power advantage, you know, against anybody in that division. 576 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:54,880 Speaker 3: She's got a crazy knockdown rate compared to the next 577 00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 3: best one in the Strawway division, and she's got a 578 00:25:56,920 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 3: pretty good submission game as well. However, she's also I 579 00:25:59,320 --> 00:26:01,240 Speaker 3: think gonna be the sticks by the time they would 580 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:02,840 Speaker 3: match up if they do end up making that fight. 581 00:26:03,640 --> 00:26:07,080 Speaker 3: I would like to see some new challengers emerge in 582 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,800 Speaker 3: this division, and we've seen the same champions. It's been 583 00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 3: like a carousel of the same champions at strawweight because 584 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 3: there's been such an elite class of them. I'm hoping 585 00:26:17,000 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 3: that there will be at least another challenger that will 586 00:26:18,920 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: rise to the occasion and become a threat. But yeah, 587 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 3: Way Lee, I think right now would be favored against 588 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 3: anybody in the division. 589 00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 2: Maybe if if they liked your plan and went with 590 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,439 Speaker 2: Lamos next, just for what you said, let's mix it up, 591 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,919 Speaker 2: let's get new people, and we don't have to have 592 00:26:32,160 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 2: trilogies of every matchup right now. If they did it 593 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,240 Speaker 2: in China, that would make a lot more sense marketing wise. 594 00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:39,920 Speaker 2: As you know, Waylee, represents a very big opportunity for 595 00:26:39,960 --> 00:26:42,639 Speaker 2: them to continue to make inroads there. If that plays 596 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,640 Speaker 2: out that way and they prefer Rose to get another shot, 597 00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,120 Speaker 2: do you have a preference here matchmaking wise on who 598 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:50,480 Speaker 2: Rose would need to fight. That would could be like 599 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:52,600 Speaker 2: a quasi number one contenders match. 600 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 3: A probably Lamos, right Like I mean, if you want 601 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:55,200 Speaker 3: to get. 602 00:26:55,520 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: Less under this scenario, Lamos would fight the champion. 603 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 3: So so then is Rose against someone else? Maybe Androge again, 604 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:04,919 Speaker 3: I'll you know, have a trilogy fight between them. But 605 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:06,920 Speaker 3: Androge is moving to one twenty five for her next 606 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:09,360 Speaker 3: fight against Lauren Murphy. Right, so then you know, by 607 00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 3: process of elimination, who's left. I mean it would it 608 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 3: have been Marina Rodriguez. There's not a whole lot of 609 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 3: options right now at the top of the ocasion unless 610 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: it's Yeah, I'm getting. 611 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,560 Speaker 2: Jan Shannon or Mackenzie is a good. 612 00:27:21,480 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 3: One too, because she just beat Mackenzie Durnam, so she's 613 00:27:23,560 --> 00:27:26,160 Speaker 3: in that mix. Rose versus Jan Channon's a good one. 614 00:27:26,160 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 3: I like that. 615 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: Okay. 616 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:29,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think he has the love for the 617 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 2: one fifteen like I do. Look, I think he just 618 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 2: shared it with with the world. 619 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,720 Speaker 1: Okay, Okay, I'm not I'm not sure anyone has love 620 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 1: for fifteen quite like you do. 621 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 2: Okay, Rose versus Way three is next because people like 622 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,600 Speaker 2: stories and money. Okay, thank you very much. 623 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 1: Hey, Aaron, just real quickly on Carla Sparza, how do 624 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: you view long term the role she played in this 625 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 1: era of strawweight, Because on the one hand, she had 626 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,160 Speaker 1: a great winning streak over legit competition, some of those 627 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: by the skin of her teeth, but she did stack 628 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,360 Speaker 1: w's on top of each other. She was a two 629 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:02,320 Speaker 1: time champion, and one of which she won awfully, but 630 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,800 Speaker 1: one time she won quite spectacularly and thoroughly. And yet 631 00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:08,160 Speaker 1: when we think about the heavy hitters of this era 632 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:11,840 Speaker 1: of the Jouannas de Jean way Lee's The Roses, Carla 633 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: seems to be orbiting a little bit outside of that space. 634 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: Despite being a two time champion. How do you do 635 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,000 Speaker 1: you view her placement relative to those other ones in 636 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 1: this era of women's strawweight. 637 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 3: I think Carla's legacy is kind of set now. I mean, 638 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:27,440 Speaker 3: she was. Her story is she's the first champion of 639 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 3: the division in the history of the UFC, and then 640 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: after I think it was what eight years, was able 641 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:34,240 Speaker 3: to somehow claw her way back into a position to 642 00:28:34,280 --> 00:28:37,600 Speaker 3: win the title. And regardless of how it's won, she 643 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: still won that fight. You know, you can say it 644 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 3: was a boring fight, but she did what was needed 645 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,120 Speaker 3: at that time. Her game plan was enough to stifle 646 00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 3: rose to the point that rose Woods became a completely 647 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 3: defensive fighter for whatever reason on that night that she 648 00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 3: was able to recapture the title. So that's Carlos Stars's story, 649 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 3: and it's a great story. You know, I don't think 650 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:56,760 Speaker 3: that people should be writing her off in the way 651 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:59,080 Speaker 3: that she has been. After that event, I saw, like 652 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 3: Nico Montagno compares, I don't know. Yeah, she ran the 653 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 3: gauntlet of the toughest strawweights that were available to her 654 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 3: in the Ultimate Fighter House to become the champion, lost 655 00:29:07,880 --> 00:29:10,360 Speaker 3: to Johanna. You know, had Yo Wanna been in the house, 656 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:11,959 Speaker 3: maybe she never would have been championed to begin with. 657 00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,640 Speaker 3: But that being said, she's always gonna be the first 658 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 3: Straway champion in UFC history, and that story is always 659 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 3: going to exist that so many years later she was 660 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 3: able to recapture the title, and that'll inspire future champions 661 00:29:22,680 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 3: as well. So I don't think anybody should be taking 662 00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:27,000 Speaker 3: anything away from Carlos Spars after this. She ran into 663 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 3: a really bad matchup that I think stylistically, her back 664 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: was up against the wall, you know, right from the jump. 665 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: Yeah. In the era of two oh five, when it 666 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:38,360 Speaker 1: was the Division of Kings, guys like Anatto Sebrawl never 667 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: got a title, but they were always kind of right there, 668 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 1: giving the other guys usually tough fights and then beating 669 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: everybody else. She kind of reminds me a little bit 670 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:48,640 Speaker 1: a little bit of that, although you know, being a 671 00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: two time title holders a little bit different as well. 672 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about the crazy ass fight on 673 00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 1: this car Geez Louise. Dustin Parier submits Michael Chandler in 674 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: the third round, but now without a little bit of controversy, 675 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: including some potential cheating controversy, which I want to get you. 676 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: But first, ab the first question to ask you is 677 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:12,120 Speaker 1: the following. What did Dustin Parier prove with this win? 678 00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,400 Speaker 3: He proved what he always proves. He just does not 679 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 3: go away. You have to put him out if you 680 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,760 Speaker 3: want to beat him, because down the stretch you will 681 00:30:20,760 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: always be the better fighter. And you know, watching the 682 00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 3: fight backstage, Chandler's nailing him with big shots in the 683 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 3: first nine and I'm saying the people next thing I go, 684 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 3: Poorier's got him right where he wants him, and They're like, 685 00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 3: what are you talking about, Like Chandler's pouring it on 686 00:30:33,200 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 3: him right now because this fight could end at any second. 687 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,520 Speaker 3: I'm like, no, no, no, this is what Dustin Poier wants. 688 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,160 Speaker 3: He wants Chandler to put all of his eggs in 689 00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: one basket, throw the kitchen sink at him early on, 690 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,880 Speaker 3: because down the stretch he's going to be able to 691 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 3: you know, for him, this was sprint versus marathon. That's 692 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,880 Speaker 3: exactly what this was. This was a sprint for Michael Chandler. 693 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 3: Get this guy out of there by any means possible 694 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,720 Speaker 3: early on, and if not, you know, you're gonna lose 695 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,760 Speaker 3: this fight. And that's what happened. I mean at the 696 00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,360 Speaker 3: end into the first round, when Chandler's gas tanks started 697 00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,000 Speaker 3: to dwindle, Porier poured it on and stole that round 698 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 3: with those big strikes to end it. Second round, Chandler 699 00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 3: does thing smart, takes him down, wins the round by 700 00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,960 Speaker 3: controlling him, you know, is able to catch his breath, 701 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 3: and then by the third round he wasn't able to 702 00:31:15,920 --> 00:31:17,800 Speaker 3: catch enough breath. And Dustin Porie is a builder. He 703 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 3: might be one of the best builders in the history 704 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:21,680 Speaker 3: of N and A because as the fight goes on, 705 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 3: he solves the puzzle and then he is able to 706 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 3: best you and put it on you in ways that 707 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 3: are very very violent and very very determined. And that's 708 00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 3: what he did on Saturday, and that's what he will 709 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,640 Speaker 3: continue to do for as long as you allow him 710 00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:35,760 Speaker 3: to be in a fight, because I don't think we're 711 00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,800 Speaker 3: gonna se Dustin Poorie lose a decision unless, you know, 712 00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 3: unless it's against the guy like Islam who wrestles him. 713 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,640 Speaker 3: Because as the fight goes on, his power never seems 714 00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 3: to go away. He seems to be able to maintain 715 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,040 Speaker 3: this cardio and his will just continues to grow and 716 00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:50,000 Speaker 3: grow as the fight goes on. 717 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, this was everything we wanted it to be, and 718 00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 2: I think more I think it actually exceeded the wild 719 00:31:57,560 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 2: expectations that this fight had coming in. We're like, okay, 720 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 2: give it a round, a round and a half, it'll 721 00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,520 Speaker 2: be a incredible brawl, and then somebody's going down. God, 722 00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 2: there were like seventeen near finish. It's like Steamboat versus 723 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 2: Savage here, you know what I'm saying here In that regard, 724 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 2: I felt it was going to be over at so 725 00:32:11,720 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 2: many different points. So the stakes for this changed in 726 00:32:14,680 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 2: a weird way coming in with the all Alexander Volkanowski 727 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 2: announcement in what twenty four hours before to get the 728 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,920 Speaker 2: next lightweight title shot. So I want to ask you 729 00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 2: a two part question on if that hadn't happened, if 730 00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,920 Speaker 2: that fight hadn't been announced, if it was still wide open, 731 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: would we be talking about Dustin Poorie getting a third 732 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 2: full crack at this lightweight title after this exact performance. 733 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 2: And on that flip side, if it is going to 734 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 2: be Volkanowski next, what did Porier secure? Beyond respect and 735 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 2: another great name on his resume. 736 00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 3: Poria was able to remind everybody what he's made of 737 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 3: and that he is a championship caliber fighter. You know, 738 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 3: one fight does not make a career, and that lost 739 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,440 Speaker 3: to Charles Olavero when Charles Olavero was on fire. You know, 740 00:32:57,640 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: I think that that is something that Dustin Poie coming 741 00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 3: off of two Connor fights, might not have been prepared 742 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:05,959 Speaker 3: for at the time. But right now you look at 743 00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,200 Speaker 3: this kind of a performance and it just reminds you 744 00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,280 Speaker 3: just how good Dustin Poier isn't. On the flip side, 745 00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,800 Speaker 3: you know, my colleague Robin blacketts N raised a very 746 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 3: good point about Michael Chandler. Michael Chandler is not making 747 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 3: the best decisions in there beat. He wants to put 748 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 3: on a show, he wants to perform, and it's worked 749 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 3: out for him great. From a lucrative standpoint. He's making 750 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 3: a lot of money, he's getting bonuses. You know, he 751 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,479 Speaker 3: just extended his contract with the UFC, got a new 752 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 3: contract rather and he's fighting to entertain and I think 753 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: for Michael Chandler that'll do really well for his bank account. 754 00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 3: But he makes a lot of mistakes along the way 755 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 3: as a result of that, and he's run into three 756 00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 3: elite fighters in Gai Chee, Olivera and now Poier, where 757 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 3: had he thought a little bit smarter, maybe been a 758 00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,000 Speaker 3: little bit more calculated than his decisions rather than trying 759 00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,920 Speaker 3: to put on a show, maybe he would have won 760 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 3: some of those fights. So I think that, you know, 761 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 3: the success of Dustin Poirier also is a symptom of 762 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: Michael Chandler perhaps not having the best game plan in 763 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:05,560 Speaker 3: these fights and not thinking long term in terms of 764 00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:07,200 Speaker 3: how the fight is going to play out, and you know, 765 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 3: really trying to gas pedal a lot of these opponents. 766 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,839 Speaker 3: And Dustin Portie is absolutely the wrong fighter to gas 767 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:13,719 Speaker 3: pedal because down the stretch he will outrun you. 768 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: I don't know, Luke, I want to argue that. And 769 00:34:16,640 --> 00:34:19,360 Speaker 2: you brought up a good idea, Luke, about Chandler potentially 770 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:22,200 Speaker 2: trying to take some of that energy and focusing it 771 00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:25,359 Speaker 2: more in one strategic area, which isn't too different from 772 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 2: what AB's trying to present here. But I just look 773 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:30,960 Speaker 2: out Chandler at thirty six coming over from Bellator. Even 774 00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 2: though Eddie Alvas had made that same conversion. We did 775 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:35,680 Speaker 2: remember the Will Brooks story where you know it wasn't 776 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:38,719 Speaker 2: going to be automatic. But I think he took all 777 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 2: of his abilities that were left in Elite and put 778 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: rolled them into one giant punch. And is it reckless, yes, 779 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,560 Speaker 2: but he was that close to winning the damn lightweight title, 780 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 2: and in his mid to late thirties, in this killer 781 00:34:50,640 --> 00:34:52,839 Speaker 2: top ten of great old names going on and new 782 00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 2: ones coming in, I can almost argue that this is 783 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:59,120 Speaker 2: the best use of his powers, as reckless as it is, 784 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 2: and it can call big mistakes, but he also can 785 00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:04,520 Speaker 2: break people that barage heap of punches he put on 786 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:07,600 Speaker 2: in the second half of round one before as you mentioned, 787 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 2: it looked like he started to gas. You know, if 788 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 2: you don't have the chin in the ability of Pourrier 789 00:35:13,080 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 2: right there, you're probably getting knocked out. And that's what 790 00:35:15,880 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 2: he does in financially rewarding. But he may also get 791 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:23,279 Speaker 2: Connor next for all we know. So you know, I 792 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 2: wonder if had he gone the other way and fought 793 00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,920 Speaker 2: as as straight up. I mean, he's given up size 794 00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 2: in a lot of these matchups too, against the elite lightweights. 795 00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: I mean, his record may end up being the exact same. 796 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 2: So instead he did it his way, had fun, lived 797 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 2: a rockstar lifestyle and cash big checks, and because of 798 00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 2: how reckless he is, it's going to help the aging 799 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,560 Speaker 2: process because we're never going to know exactly what he 800 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 2: has left. Does that make any sense or not? Might 801 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,719 Speaker 2: just trying to mimic my career after his attitude here 802 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 2: because I'm about entertainment too, Luke, Okay. 803 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,719 Speaker 1: Maybe here's where I'm at on this one. I think 804 00:35:55,719 --> 00:35:57,799 Speaker 1: I'd split the difference a little bit. My view on 805 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 1: it is in the three fights that he lost, if 806 00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: he had fought a little bit more strategically, I think 807 00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,440 Speaker 1: he probably could have won at most one of those 808 00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: more so, like do I think the results would be different? 809 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: And again, I mean I'm just making this up. I don't. 810 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:14,960 Speaker 1: I don't have evidence to prove it, but it's sort 811 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: of my sense of things that had he tailored his 812 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:20,799 Speaker 1: fighting strategies a little bit more in line with like 813 00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,320 Speaker 1: a coordinated strategic vision of things, could he have gotten 814 00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: another win, maybe even two. 815 00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,640 Speaker 3: It's possible. 816 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't think he would have gotten the two, but 817 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,319 Speaker 1: I do think he would have gotten at least one 818 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:32,200 Speaker 1: of them. But the reality is, to BC's point, it's 819 00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,239 Speaker 1: not a major trade off in wins losses. I mean, 820 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,200 Speaker 1: you know, three or two and three doesn't look great, 821 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: but it would with three and two is not significantly better. 822 00:36:40,080 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: And more to the point, he has made himself like 823 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 1: such an attraction to the fans and to potential opponents 824 00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: down the line by virtue of how much this buzz 825 00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,160 Speaker 1: is created in the way which he's come over and fought. 826 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:54,280 Speaker 1: So Like, I get that there could be more wins 827 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 1: on the Ledger, but it's hard for me to believe 828 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,200 Speaker 1: he'd be quite the sensation and then setting himself up 829 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,840 Speaker 1: for other things in the way if had he fought 830 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:04,960 Speaker 1: a more strategic version of things. Like In other words, 831 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:06,760 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's all a washed I actually 832 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: think he probably made the right call in the end 833 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: to do what he's doing. 834 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:13,799 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I wouldn't argue the other way 835 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,520 Speaker 3: on that. I think that if he ends up getting 836 00:37:15,520 --> 00:37:17,200 Speaker 3: the Connor fight, because right now I think he's by 837 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 3: far the most attractive option there. Then him fighting for 838 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,920 Speaker 3: bank account is going to pay off. He might not 839 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:23,879 Speaker 3: be the champion of the UFC, but if he gets 840 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 3: a fight with Connor, I think that he would probably 841 00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,480 Speaker 3: prefer that to becoming a UFC champion. I think that 842 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 3: would be a massive attraction fight. I think honestly, when 843 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,560 Speaker 3: Connor is ready to come back, I think they're going 844 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,800 Speaker 3: to present him with two options. Do you want Tony 845 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 3: Ferguson or do you want Michael Chandler, And I think 846 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 3: those are going to be the two possibilities for Connor 847 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,399 Speaker 3: in his return. I think Chandler is probably the had 848 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:48,320 Speaker 3: the early lead in that regard. So if that's what Chandler. 849 00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:49,960 Speaker 3: You know, when Handler came to the UFC, he said 850 00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,359 Speaker 3: I'm here for a good time, not a long time, 851 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 3: and that has proven to be very very true. 852 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,560 Speaker 2: Well, it'd be quickly on this because I was so 853 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 2: enthralled and entertained, and we knew these guys would do this. 854 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 2: Of this lightweight era of action heroes, which is Poorier Chandler, 855 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:08,200 Speaker 2: Eddie Alvarez was in there. Gai Chi's still making them great, 856 00:38:08,520 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: you know, Tony Connor, I mean, all those guys kind 857 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,879 Speaker 2: of fought each other the best they could. Where does 858 00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 2: this Saturday's Chandler versus Poorier in your eyes rank in 859 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: terms of the best action fights those guys have produced. 860 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:25,880 Speaker 3: It's up there, But I actually think Chandler versus Alvarez 861 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 3: was probably like those two fights were probably better than 862 00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 3: that one this past weekend. And you know, you hate 863 00:38:31,080 --> 00:38:33,040 Speaker 3: to use recency bias because that was such a great fight, 864 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 3: but I think Gaichie versus Alvarez was better. I think 865 00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:39,359 Speaker 3: gai Chie versus Porier was better. Gaichie versus Chandler may 866 00:38:39,400 --> 00:38:41,360 Speaker 3: have even been better. Like Gaichie is really producing the 867 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 3: best results of the bunch in terms of these action fights. 868 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,720 Speaker 3: If you look at what he's been able to produce 869 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,319 Speaker 3: his coming to the UFC. I mean, that guy's just 870 00:38:48,440 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 3: never in boring fights. So if I were to like 871 00:38:52,239 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 3: give an award for, you know, best action Star, if 872 00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: I was handing out the oscar for that, the action 873 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,239 Speaker 3: hero would be just Gegee. I think that his fights 874 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:03,839 Speaker 3: are just always always entertaining it. I mean, hey, look 875 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,239 Speaker 3: at Michael Chandler. Also, he hasn't produced a dog yet either, 876 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:09,799 Speaker 3: so I think that's interesting because he's been in the 877 00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:10,440 Speaker 3: best ones. 878 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 2: Though, Gaichie has tried his best to tailor his caveman 879 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,040 Speaker 2: crazy style and make it a little bit more you know, 880 00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:19,839 Speaker 2: title contending, and maybe that took a little bit off 881 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 2: of his Yeah, I'm just gonna go out there to 882 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,640 Speaker 2: make the kind of shit that Chandler's making purposely every 883 00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 2: single time. But to your point, Geichie might have been 884 00:39:27,719 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 2: in the better ones overall in this in this stretch, 885 00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,239 Speaker 2: I mean gaechie versus Eddie, geischie versus Poory. I mean, 886 00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:36,400 Speaker 2: they've just been We've been spoiled. We've been spoiled across 887 00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 2: the board. Look, you don't like to rank action fights, 888 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:39,720 Speaker 2: but they're awesome. 889 00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I gotta say I think I agree with 890 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: Ab that Geechee has been probably the greatest catalyst for 891 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:51,200 Speaker 1: exciting fights. But fucking Chandler's knockout of Ferguson is Wow. 892 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: That is Yeah, that's up there with one of the 893 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: best knockouts I've ever fucking seen, you know what I mean. 894 00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,720 Speaker 1: So the overall body of work probably goes to Geichee, 895 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: but that individual piece of brilliance would go to Chandler. 896 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 1: In terms of like guys coming over to UFC from 897 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:06,799 Speaker 1: other organizations. A couple more points on this fight. I 898 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: want to get to with you. Ab Number one, the 899 00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: fish hooking allegation. Now, there's a video that came out. 900 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: I don't like to accuse fighters of cheating unless we have, 901 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: like NFL rules, in controvertible evidence. I don't know that 902 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,680 Speaker 1: we have incontrovertible evidence. But there is a very slowed 903 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,040 Speaker 1: down piece of video where you could see he doesn't 904 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,759 Speaker 1: quite have the choking arm, and then he lifts his 905 00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:29,560 Speaker 1: hand like this and pulls and then slides. It's hard 906 00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,879 Speaker 1: to know exactly what really went in his mouth or 907 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: what Michael Chandler knew he was pulling. It's a little 908 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: hard to say, but it doesn't look great for Chandler. 909 00:40:38,920 --> 00:40:39,719 Speaker 1: What do you make of this? 910 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:45,320 Speaker 3: Oh my god, cheating in MMA? Oooh, this never happens, 911 00:40:45,320 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 3: does it. Hey, there's the referees jumps, stand them up 912 00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 3: and take a point. I mean we see this all 913 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 3: the time. People are making a big deal with this. Yeah, 914 00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,759 Speaker 3: it's dirty, but I mean do we see dirty stuff 915 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 3: in MMA all the time? We see cage grabs? Do 916 00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,560 Speaker 3: we see people grabbing the gloves? It looks a lot dirtier. 917 00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,799 Speaker 3: I mean, that's the thing. Optically, it's a lot more 918 00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 3: visceral to see somebody stub their hand in someone's mouth 919 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 3: and lift their mouth up. But again, the referees got 920 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,360 Speaker 3: to be on top of the action there and do 921 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,800 Speaker 3: something about it. Otherwise we're just gonna keep seeing cheating 922 00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,000 Speaker 3: and fowls that don't get called. It's and it's hard 923 00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,560 Speaker 3: also because taking a point away is it has such 924 00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:22,440 Speaker 3: a profound effect on a three round fight that the 925 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,600 Speaker 3: referees often won't do it. But you know, at least 926 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:28,520 Speaker 3: take away position or do something that's going to penalize 927 00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,160 Speaker 3: a fighter for doing something like that. And I know 928 00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 3: Dustin Poia was furious about it. In fact, there was 929 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:35,360 Speaker 3: also a clash of heads in the first round that 930 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people didn't see that rocked Dustin Poier 931 00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,120 Speaker 3: like that was really the catalyst for that big barrage 932 00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 3: that Michael Chandler was able to land. I actually told 933 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 3: Poia when I interviewed him afterwards, I go, you know, 934 00:41:45,719 --> 00:41:47,279 Speaker 3: that was like a clash of heads. He goes, Oh, 935 00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,080 Speaker 3: I knew it, He goes, I blacked out. I didn't 936 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:51,720 Speaker 3: see anything coming. And it's just in the first round 937 00:41:52,120 --> 00:41:53,840 Speaker 3: that was one of the things that and you know, 938 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 3: the referee kind of missed. He probably could have called 939 00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:58,400 Speaker 3: the time out and let Dustin Poier recover. But you know, 940 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,120 Speaker 3: obviously the referee is going to have the anger that 941 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 3: they're going to have, and these things happen. It's such 942 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 3: a blink of an eye that oftentimes you won't catch it. 943 00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,520 Speaker 3: But again, it's one of those situations where I think 944 00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: a lot of people are making more of it than 945 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,400 Speaker 3: they normally would. Some sort of foul that is committed 946 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,239 Speaker 3: during a fight that doesn't really have anything happen as 947 00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 3: a result of it. 948 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: Well, miss fish looking fowls or gross as shit though 949 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:22,000 Speaker 1: like of all time gross fowls, that's gross as fuck. 950 00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:22,839 Speaker 2: Okay, Well, you. 951 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,120 Speaker 3: Guys are both missing why people pay more attention to it. 952 00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:27,720 Speaker 2: Sorry to interrupt your conversation, guys, but you're both missing 953 00:42:27,719 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 2: a big part of this equation, which is why the 954 00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 2: fans were so grossed out and also why Porier was 955 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,960 Speaker 2: so pissed. Is we've seen before when the fighter on 956 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 2: top is bleeding as Chandler was, that they sort of 957 00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 2: try to angle the dripping of their blood to fall 958 00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 2: in the face of their opponent to blind him. We've 959 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 2: seen that before. But Chandler, according to Poorier, and we've 960 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,040 Speaker 2: got video, and have you seen the shit that might 961 00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:51,080 Speaker 2: prove it? Chandler was shooting bloody snot rockets, like aiming 962 00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:54,640 Speaker 2: them at Poorier's face while trying to land round and pound. 963 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,200 Speaker 2: That's next level grimy to me. That goes beyond holding 964 00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: the gloves or grabbing the fence. Wud you agree that 965 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 2: that's enough to a justify how pissed Poorier was? But 966 00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: b Like, we do have to say, did Chandler go 967 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:10,239 Speaker 2: like morally a little bit too far here with that grossness? 968 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 3: I took a refereeing course, and it snot. Rockets are 969 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:15,200 Speaker 3: not one of the fowls that are illegal in M 970 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,440 Speaker 3: and A. So it's not rockets are fair game in 971 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:18,879 Speaker 3: terms of M and A. Now, of course, if he's 972 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:20,719 Speaker 3: ficial him and holding his mouth open to shoots not 973 00:43:20,800 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 3: rockets into his nose, that's where the foul, that's where the. 974 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,840 Speaker 1: Foul really is a stupid show. I really have to 975 00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: just say that out loud. Here we're talking about shooting 976 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 1: boogers in each other's mouths. 977 00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:32,040 Speaker 2: But I think there is a line I think that 978 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,319 Speaker 2: does cross to me. What you know, what I mean 979 00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,560 Speaker 2: like that does cross to me a line of what's acceptable. 980 00:43:37,600 --> 00:43:39,560 Speaker 2: I'd be pissed. If I was poor I'd go right 981 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,880 Speaker 2: for the notes. If I was him, I would have 982 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:41,320 Speaker 2: I would. 983 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,040 Speaker 3: Have gone I did, and he wanted to knock him out. 984 00:43:43,040 --> 00:43:44,560 Speaker 3: In the third Dude. 985 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,719 Speaker 2: Poorier tried to open his cut with two hands, and 986 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:47,799 Speaker 2: this was after. 987 00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:51,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't do that, Yeah, you can't do that. 988 00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:53,480 Speaker 1: Ship all right, last question and we'll move on to 989 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,640 Speaker 1: something else in the card. But Neil daryush now I 990 00:43:56,719 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: had him, I interviewed him. He just is not interested 991 00:43:59,200 --> 00:44:02,439 Speaker 1: at all in calling any one out. But geez, Louise Man, Aaron, 992 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:03,799 Speaker 1: you know this as well as I do. That guy 993 00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: has earned himself something. What does the UFC do with 994 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:10,600 Speaker 1: ben Neil Daryusch And here's the caveat if they're trying 995 00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:11,640 Speaker 1: to do right by. 996 00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: Him, easy answer, you book him against Dustin Pourier. I 997 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 3: think that's the fight to make, and I think that 998 00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,760 Speaker 3: would figure out the rightful number one contender in this division. Benila, 999 00:44:22,800 --> 00:44:24,080 Speaker 3: I think he knows he needs to wait a little 1000 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,440 Speaker 3: bit if he's going to try to get a title 1001 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,640 Speaker 3: fight off of his last win. But I also think 1002 00:44:28,680 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 3: that he wants to be busy, Like he took a 1003 00:44:30,560 --> 00:44:32,440 Speaker 3: little bit of time off he had a child and 1004 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 3: dedicated a lot of his time, of course to his 1005 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 3: family during that time. So I think he wants to 1006 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 3: stay busy, and I think him versus Dustin Poier would 1007 00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 3: be like a phenomenal fight night main event that you 1008 00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,800 Speaker 3: can make if you're gonna start going back to bigger 1009 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,080 Speaker 3: arenas for fight nights, Like that's the kind of fight 1010 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:49,759 Speaker 3: that you want to see headlining a fight night if 1011 00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 3: you're gonna be buying tickets to an event, I think 1012 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,760 Speaker 3: they have to make that fight happen next and basically 1013 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 3: say that the winner of this fight should be number 1014 00:44:56,360 --> 00:44:57,920 Speaker 3: one for the lightweight championship. 1015 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,120 Speaker 1: All right, I totally agree. Let's move now to number four. 1016 00:45:01,239 --> 00:45:02,920 Speaker 1: I've got this question word in a different way. But 1017 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:07,560 Speaker 1: I'd like to start with this Frankie Edgar that suck 1018 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:12,000 Speaker 1: to watch candidly, he gets flatlined by Chris Gutierrez in 1019 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:15,000 Speaker 1: the first seemed to be barely in the fight at all. 1020 00:45:15,640 --> 00:45:17,040 Speaker 1: I'll just pitch this one to you, and I want 1021 00:45:17,080 --> 00:45:19,080 Speaker 1: to talk about some other players on this card in 1022 00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: relation to Frankie. First things first, Aarin your response to 1023 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:26,040 Speaker 1: what happened with Frankie Edgar, any thoughts about his career? 1024 00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,359 Speaker 1: What do you want to say about Frankie Edgar now 1025 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: that this is the last time we'll talk about him 1026 00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:30,719 Speaker 1: post fight. 1027 00:45:31,800 --> 00:45:33,799 Speaker 3: Well, Frankie Edgar is just an absolute legend. I mean, 1028 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,520 Speaker 3: look at those fights that he had against Gray Maynard. 1029 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 3: Would you have imagined that his chin would have held 1030 00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,120 Speaker 3: up as long as it did to the point where 1031 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,160 Speaker 3: he started to just start getting knocked at, knocked out 1032 00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:45,480 Speaker 3: in the later part of his career, And he was 1033 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,959 Speaker 3: one of the most durable guys that we've ever seen 1034 00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 3: in this sport. And eventually, when you fight eight hours 1035 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:53,320 Speaker 3: of UFC fight time, that chin is not going to 1036 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:56,240 Speaker 3: have as much hold as it has in the past. 1037 00:45:56,280 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 3: And that's what we saw on Saturday. Unfortunate Lean. You know, 1038 00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:03,640 Speaker 3: it was awful to watch at MSG to see him 1039 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 3: drop like that, But at the same time, that's Chris 1040 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,359 Speaker 3: Gutierra's doing his job. And also, when you really unpack it, 1041 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 3: Chris Gutierrez is fighting with the emotions of finding out 1042 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:17,120 Speaker 3: that his coach had kidney cancer, leaves the hospital, comes 1043 00:46:17,160 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 3: to New York's walking around with a cane to be 1044 00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:21,920 Speaker 3: in his corner. I don't think he cares about Frankie 1045 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,640 Speaker 3: Edgar and Frankie Edgar's health in that moment, you know, 1046 00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:26,239 Speaker 3: he's doing what he has to do to win that 1047 00:46:26,280 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 3: fight and fight for his coach, who's who has a 1048 00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,200 Speaker 3: pretty remarkable battle in front of him as well. But 1049 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:34,800 Speaker 3: we always hate to see fighters like this. And then 1050 00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 3: you look ahead to this card in Brazil, We've got 1051 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:43,839 Speaker 3: Shogun Hua against Ehor Potaria. Why are they booking these fights? Like, 1052 00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,919 Speaker 3: why are you taking these guys that have a foot 1053 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:48,799 Speaker 3: out the door and putting them against people that have 1054 00:46:48,800 --> 00:46:50,560 Speaker 3: no profile in the sport at this point in time. 1055 00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:53,959 Speaker 3: No disrespect to Chris Gutierra's or Potaria. Book a fight 1056 00:46:54,239 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: where you know that he has a shot of at 1057 00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,000 Speaker 3: least producing something exciting, like Dominant book him against the 1058 00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,040 Speaker 3: dominant Cruz. You're booking against Uriah Faber, Like we have 1059 00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,719 Speaker 3: options here, There's no reason to have him fight somebody 1060 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 3: that's going to try to build the name off of 1061 00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,959 Speaker 3: him at MSG in his backyard in his final fight. 1062 00:47:11,280 --> 00:47:14,600 Speaker 3: Like to me, I just don't like that kind of booking. 1063 00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:16,600 Speaker 3: I don't think it makes sense. And they always say 1064 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,840 Speaker 3: there's no easy fights in the UFC. I subscribe to that, 1065 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 3: but at least give the fans something that they can 1066 00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:25,480 Speaker 3: enjoy watching instead of having all of the air come 1067 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,120 Speaker 3: out of the building when you see an absolute legend 1068 00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 3: go down like that in Frankie Edgar, it was horrible 1069 00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:34,880 Speaker 3: to watch. The backstage where I was was completely silent. 1070 00:47:34,920 --> 00:47:38,319 Speaker 3: After the fact, everybody's concerned about the guy, and you 1071 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 3: have to be concerned about his long term health after 1072 00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,080 Speaker 3: all of these, Like you look at the Korean zombie knockout, 1073 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:46,360 Speaker 3: the Artaga knockout, like these are vicious, vicious knockouts, and 1074 00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,080 Speaker 3: for him to end his career like that, I think 1075 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 3: is something that didn't need to happen. 1076 00:47:50,920 --> 00:47:53,160 Speaker 1: Let me fall off real quickly if I may. What 1077 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,799 Speaker 1: is the biggest Frankie Edgar fight we didn't get? Is 1078 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: the answer? Dominant CRUZH Like that could have been booked 1079 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 1: for this past weekend. Yeah, probably, but not even this 1080 00:48:03,840 --> 00:48:05,960 Speaker 1: past weekend. But like in the totality of the Frankie 1081 00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: Edgar experience, what was the one like we just didn't get? 1082 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,879 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean Frankie versus Cruise is a good one. 1083 00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:15,040 Speaker 3: There's not a whole lot of history there because Cruise 1084 00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 3: is like the wec guy and Frankie Edgar's the guy 1085 00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:19,440 Speaker 3: who moved from fifty five down to thirty five eventually. 1086 00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:21,880 Speaker 3: So I'm not really sure if that would have necessarily 1087 00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:25,319 Speaker 3: been the one to make, but I think I think 1088 00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:28,759 Speaker 3: that would have been the answer. Guys, guys, that's kind 1089 00:48:28,760 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 3: of the one that got away. 1090 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,719 Speaker 2: I guess, yeah, it should have been Connor McGregor. There 1091 00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,359 Speaker 2: was that window. The window was there twice actually, to 1092 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:35,000 Speaker 2: be fair. 1093 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:38,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, at some point like that would have 1094 00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,400 Speaker 3: been a cool one to make, also, especially with the 1095 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,239 Speaker 3: lightweight division not being quite as developed historically as it 1096 00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:45,960 Speaker 3: was at that point in time, where Edgar at that 1097 00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,879 Speaker 3: time was probably the best champion the division ever had. 1098 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: All right, now, let me follow it up here with 1099 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:55,160 Speaker 1: staying on this idea of guys being potentially done. Now, 1100 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:58,040 Speaker 1: Frankie's in a very different scenario than the other two, gentlemen, 1101 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: I'm about to mention. I'm not making this claim to 1102 00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:04,080 Speaker 1: say that they are equivalent, but rather that one situation 1103 00:49:04,640 --> 00:49:07,360 Speaker 1: gives us some concern or some pause or something to 1104 00:49:07,400 --> 00:49:11,000 Speaker 1: think about. With the other two, namely Dominic Reyes and 1105 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,640 Speaker 1: Brad Riddell, dominic rey is getting flat lined in the 1106 00:49:13,640 --> 00:49:15,200 Speaker 1: first round for the third time in a row. 1107 00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 3: Up. 1108 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:17,160 Speaker 1: He got flat lined in the second round in the 1109 00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:20,399 Speaker 1: other two but flat lined ultimately for the third time 1110 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,839 Speaker 1: in a row. Brad Redell getting finished in the first 1111 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:26,399 Speaker 1: round for the second time. Now, Brad Riddell just took 1112 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: to Instagram to say he's taking a break from MMA. 1113 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 1: I can't read the whole long thing, but he's basically 1114 00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:36,000 Speaker 1: saying that I'm gonna, you know, let's see, I'm going 1115 00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:37,919 Speaker 1: to step away from competing in MMA for a good 1116 00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: while until the fire to compete comes back. I'm not 1117 00:49:40,040 --> 00:49:42,839 Speaker 1: performing close to my capability, which I agree with, and 1118 00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:46,560 Speaker 1: it's a dangerous job if you're not fully present. Totally agree, 1119 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: really admire this from him, but it now leads us 1120 00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:51,839 Speaker 1: to this conversation about Dominic Reyes. What the fuck does 1121 00:49:51,880 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: he do? 1122 00:49:52,440 --> 00:49:56,359 Speaker 3: Ab Well, dom Ic Reyes did what Brad Renelle's doing. 1123 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:58,560 Speaker 3: He took time off. When I spoke to him at WAYNS, 1124 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:02,480 Speaker 3: this was a completely different guy. Like he was so rejuvenated, 1125 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 3: so reborn, so excited about getting in there. 1126 00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 2: You know. 1127 00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 3: To see him lose to Ryan's band that way, I 1128 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,960 Speaker 3: think it's just that's got to be so devastating for him. 1129 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,000 Speaker 3: On a personal level to go forward at this stage, 1130 00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 3: I don't know, man, like, who can you put him 1131 00:50:17,680 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 3: against that you're not going to be worried is going 1132 00:50:19,600 --> 00:50:20,880 Speaker 3: to just crack him and put him out in the 1133 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,080 Speaker 3: first round in this division. I still think dominic Reyis 1134 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 3: is a really, really good fighter, but it's very difficult 1135 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,279 Speaker 3: to watch him lose like that so many times in 1136 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 3: a row, especially when he was so close to becoming 1137 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:34,000 Speaker 3: the light heavyweight champion. Like, I think that took a 1138 00:50:34,040 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 3: mental toll on him that we will never know, and 1139 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:38,400 Speaker 3: that maybe he will never know in terms of his 1140 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 3: motivation to perform in this sport. But I do hope 1141 00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,480 Speaker 3: that if dominic Reyis chooses to continue his career, that 1142 00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,440 Speaker 3: he's given, you know, a more winnable fight for him 1143 00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 3: to try to at least get himself on the right 1144 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,839 Speaker 3: page mentally going forward where he can he can have, 1145 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:58,200 Speaker 3: you know, a win that will rejuvenate him just a 1146 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,920 Speaker 3: little bit. But after are those three losses, if he 1147 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:02,719 Speaker 3: wanted to retire or if the UFC wanted to part 1148 00:51:02,760 --> 00:51:04,399 Speaker 3: waits with them and say, hey, listen, you know, we're 1149 00:51:04,480 --> 00:51:06,080 Speaker 3: a little bit worried about where this is going to go. 1150 00:51:06,320 --> 00:51:07,799 Speaker 3: I wouldn't be shocked either way. 1151 00:51:09,000 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, he already put on ig that he tried too 1152 00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:14,399 Speaker 2: hard to make a big statement. You know, it's all 1153 00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:16,839 Speaker 2: his fault. He'll be fine, he'll be back. But at 1154 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,839 Speaker 2: thirty two, it's like if they did cut him, you know, 1155 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 2: you'd have to believe other promotions to be jumping over 1156 00:51:21,560 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 2: themselves to try to rejuvenate him themselves. So, yeah, this 1157 00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:28,799 Speaker 2: is a very interesting spot. How many more I mean, 1158 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 2: does his age alone get him one more opportunity here erin? 1159 00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:35,960 Speaker 3: I think so. And you know, talking to him again 1160 00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 3: in the lead up to this past fight, who was 1161 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,640 Speaker 3: talking about how much he's shored up his fight defense, 1162 00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,440 Speaker 3: how much his striking defense rather and watching the fight, like, listen, 1163 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,640 Speaker 3: I've never been in there. It's not for me to say, 1164 00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:48,400 Speaker 3: you know, what is this guy doing? But that's what 1165 00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 3: I was saying when I was watching that fight, because 1166 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:52,800 Speaker 3: it seemed like he had no striking defense at that 1167 00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:55,280 Speaker 3: point in time. He wasn't defending himself. And he explained 1168 00:51:55,320 --> 00:51:56,920 Speaker 3: that in his Instagram post after the fact, that he 1169 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,600 Speaker 3: just wanted to get that win so badly that it 1170 00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 3: seemed like all of the fundamentals that he had learned 1171 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 3: going into that fight, and the mantra that he would 1172 00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:07,040 Speaker 3: have wanted to carry into that fight was completely absent. 1173 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,640 Speaker 3: And that's what makes me feel even worse for him, 1174 00:52:09,719 --> 00:52:12,000 Speaker 3: is because I think he knows he could have performed 1175 00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:14,439 Speaker 3: better in that fight had he not gotten a little 1176 00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 3: bit over zealous. I would like to see him fight 1177 00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 3: one more time in the UFC. I still think that 1178 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 3: there's something left in there for him to prove, and 1179 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 3: that with the right opponent and the right mentality going 1180 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 3: into a fight, the right strategy, and following the game plan, 1181 00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 3: I think that he can look a lot better than 1182 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:29,880 Speaker 3: he did on Saturday. 1183 00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:33,120 Speaker 1: Before we finish off on Frankie Edgar, do you got 1184 00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:36,880 Speaker 1: a favorite Franki Edgar moment, favorite Frankie Edgar win, something 1185 00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,040 Speaker 1: that stands out to you among the rest and Frankie 1186 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:40,040 Speaker 1: Edgar events. 1187 00:52:41,160 --> 00:52:42,719 Speaker 3: I can't remember if it ended up being a draw, 1188 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 3: but when he was basically ten to seven against Gray 1189 00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:47,200 Speaker 3: Maynard in the first round of that fight and then 1190 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,320 Speaker 3: came back with it, was that one the draw and 1191 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:50,919 Speaker 3: that he win that fight. I can't even remember because 1192 00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 3: there were so many of them, but that fight to 1193 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 3: me like him being able to withstand that and continue 1194 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:58,600 Speaker 3: to fight and make it a competitive fight. Like, how 1195 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:01,400 Speaker 3: many examples of that have we seen ever in mma? 1196 00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 3: Like you may be able to count them on one finger, 1197 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 3: like that may be it, Like, I don't know if 1198 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 3: we've ever seen somebody get smoked like that and then 1199 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 3: continue for a five round fight and look that like 1200 00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,640 Speaker 3: that to me is one of the most remarkable performances 1201 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 3: in MMA history, not just in the history of Frankie Andrey. 1202 00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:20,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's one man. While Marquez getting dropped three 1203 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,439 Speaker 2: times in the first round against Pacquiao and fighting back 1204 00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,719 Speaker 2: and getting a draw in their first fight. It's as 1205 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,600 Speaker 2: rare that type of scenario as you can possibly see. 1206 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 2: And that's Frankie. So that is the perfect example. Not 1207 00:53:30,200 --> 00:53:32,960 Speaker 2: even a win, right, but that's Frankie. That's that's probably 1208 00:53:32,960 --> 00:53:35,000 Speaker 2: the biggest win he ever had without getting one. 1209 00:53:35,600 --> 00:53:38,439 Speaker 1: That's why he is revered and adored all right, Last, 1210 00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: but not least, Aaron, it's an open floor. What else 1211 00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:45,880 Speaker 1: from UFC two eighty one topic number five? Here? What 1212 00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:48,600 Speaker 1: else from UFC two eighty one, which had a lot 1213 00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:53,400 Speaker 1: to pick out, Give me one more fight winner, something 1214 00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:56,040 Speaker 1: that you'd like to spotlight now and tell us why 1215 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,240 Speaker 1: you're giving it that spotlight. 1216 00:53:58,320 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 3: But we have to talk about Aaron Blanchfield. I mean, 1217 00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 3: was he twenty two or twenty three years old? Just 1218 00:54:03,880 --> 00:54:07,680 Speaker 3: completely demolishing Molly McCann, who had all the momentum in 1219 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 3: the world going into that fight like that was an 1220 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:13,800 Speaker 3: utter demolition, no other way to put it. And then 1221 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:16,319 Speaker 3: I talked to her after the fact, and she is 1222 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:18,560 Speaker 3: the most even keel human being you will ever meet. 1223 00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 3: Like nothing phases her. She goes into these fights completely 1224 00:54:22,560 --> 00:54:25,279 Speaker 3: emotionally detached from it and looks at it completely as 1225 00:54:25,360 --> 00:54:28,160 Speaker 3: sport like it's all about sportsmanship for her. It's all 1226 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,280 Speaker 3: about being able to prove that she's you know, basically, 1227 00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:33,440 Speaker 3: it's an athletic competition for her. And I think that 1228 00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:34,719 Speaker 3: that's what we're going to see a lot of from 1229 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,040 Speaker 3: the younger stars of mixed martial arts because for them, 1230 00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,920 Speaker 3: they didn't grow up in like the like Tank Abbott, Hoys, 1231 00:54:42,040 --> 00:54:45,920 Speaker 3: Gracie Weirdo tournament phase of the UFC. They grew up 1232 00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,840 Speaker 3: watching Ron de Rousi and you know, Connor McGregor and 1233 00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 3: George Saint Pierre like this to them is a sport. 1234 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:52,640 Speaker 1: It's not. 1235 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,480 Speaker 3: We still have the stirkiest part of MMA in our 1236 00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:57,239 Speaker 3: heads at all time, like we grew up in this, 1237 00:54:57,840 --> 00:54:59,799 Speaker 3: but she did not, and a lot of these younger 1238 00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:03,439 Speaker 3: not either. So I think that she's going places. She's 1239 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 3: just so good, so well rounded, and you know, I 1240 00:55:06,560 --> 00:55:08,239 Speaker 3: tried to prod her and be like, hey, you know, 1241 00:55:08,280 --> 00:55:09,960 Speaker 3: and Molly said, this is my city, and you guys 1242 00:55:09,960 --> 00:55:11,799 Speaker 3: were facing off. I could tell that you a little 1243 00:55:11,800 --> 00:55:13,840 Speaker 3: bit of you was angry about that. She's like, oh, no, 1244 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,239 Speaker 3: you know, it's It's just part of the show and 1245 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go into this and I'm just gonna compete 1246 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:20,960 Speaker 3: and them. She just is so even keel, and it's 1247 00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:23,759 Speaker 3: just such an impressive human being inside and outside of 1248 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 3: the cage. So that's why I want to shine a 1249 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:26,200 Speaker 3: spotlight on her. 1250 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, hashtag holy hammer. Indeed take that looke. Okay, she's 1251 00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:31,440 Speaker 2: making noise, whether you're ready for it or not. New 1252 00:55:31,560 --> 00:55:34,399 Speaker 2: Jersey is in the house. Aaron quickly on my end 1253 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:38,200 Speaker 2: and then I can hit eject here. But no one 1254 00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:42,160 Speaker 2: brought this up. And I'm surprised. Pereira barely made weight 1255 00:55:42,239 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 2: Poetan it seemed, and then knocked out is He in 1256 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,520 Speaker 2: the fifth round. He's a two division champion in glory. 1257 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,200 Speaker 2: Is this so this guy a long term threat at 1258 00:55:50,239 --> 00:55:52,080 Speaker 2: two of five in the UFC or should I, you know, 1259 00:55:53,160 --> 00:55:55,319 Speaker 2: take my turn here and slow my role. 1260 00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 3: I think his game is more conducive to two five. 1261 00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,560 Speaker 3: So absolutely like this. He looked huge compared to Izzy 1262 00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,239 Speaker 3: in the cage. You know, a lot of people were 1263 00:56:04,239 --> 00:56:06,760 Speaker 3: trying to downplay that, but he looked a lot bigger 1264 00:56:06,760 --> 00:56:08,520 Speaker 3: than him. He's taller than him for starters, and not 1265 00:56:08,560 --> 00:56:10,000 Speaker 3: a lot of people in the division in general are 1266 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:14,080 Speaker 3: taller than Israel, and he just looked massive. So I 1267 00:56:14,080 --> 00:56:16,080 Speaker 3: think two o five could certainly be on the horizon 1268 00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 3: for him down the line. Of course, if Glover ends 1269 00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 3: up winning the title, that fight obviously is not going 1270 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:21,960 Speaker 3: to happen. But if year he ends up winning, perhaps 1271 00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 3: we see somebody try to avenge the loss of their 1272 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 3: mentor in Hollywood style, and see Polaton move up to 1273 00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,439 Speaker 3: two oh five and try to become a tuitive champ 1274 00:56:30,520 --> 00:56:34,000 Speaker 3: champ champ champ, so to speak, with two kickboxing divisional 1275 00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,399 Speaker 3: titles and then two in MMA. But let's not get 1276 00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:40,399 Speaker 3: too far ahead of it. But I think that that's 1277 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:42,520 Speaker 3: something that we should, you know, certainly look at. And 1278 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:44,440 Speaker 3: another thing we didn't talk about was the stoppage itself, 1279 00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 3: which I thought was a great stoppage by Mark Godard, 1280 00:56:47,000 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 3: but a lot of people seem to disagree. 1281 00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:50,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke, where do you stand on that stoppage? Because 1282 00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:52,400 Speaker 2: I didn't have an issue one bit, but it is 1283 00:56:52,440 --> 00:56:53,080 Speaker 2: a conversation. 1284 00:56:53,560 --> 00:56:55,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I had really an issue with it. 1285 00:56:55,760 --> 00:56:58,719 Speaker 1: And you know, I mean there's always the argument that 1286 00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:03,360 Speaker 1: that's fifth round title fight, very experienced fighters, big steaks, 1287 00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:05,879 Speaker 1: let it go a little bit longer. But my view 1288 00:57:05,960 --> 00:57:08,520 Speaker 1: is basically that he jumped in at an acceptable time, 1289 00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,280 Speaker 1: maybe a slightly early for me, but acceptable, and there's 1290 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:14,239 Speaker 1: a window of acceptability and it's inside of that for me. 1291 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,520 Speaker 1: And also it just seemed to me like he probably 1292 00:57:16,560 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: saved is a vicious fucking ko to be honest with you. 1293 00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:22,840 Speaker 2: So yeah, you're right, Luke. I want to remind you 1294 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 2: that December eighth, I think it was just announced the 1295 00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:28,280 Speaker 2: World MMA Awards are going to have their whatever eighteenth 1296 00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:31,160 Speaker 2: annual affair there in Las Vegas. I think that's a 1297 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 2: Thursday night. Of course. You know, MK's up for back 1298 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 2: to back best MMA programming against you know, Rogan and 1299 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 2: Ariel and all these people that really make it impossible 1300 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,880 Speaker 2: for us to dream that we could, you know, lift 1301 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:46,840 Speaker 2: such hardware in the air. But here we are, Luke, 1302 00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: our friend Aaron Bronstead is gonna find out along with 1303 00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,760 Speaker 2: us that night if he can crack the code of 1304 00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 2: what has been Ariel Halwane's you know ripkin esque streak 1305 00:57:57,040 --> 00:58:00,920 Speaker 2: of best MMA journalists. You know, I just happened to 1306 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:02,880 Speaker 2: be a big Bronze Stetter fan, so I'm cheering for 1307 00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:05,439 Speaker 2: him here, Luke. But can you know, can you give 1308 00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: him a pep talk something? I mean, you know you 1309 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,320 Speaker 2: didn't believe in us, and here we are, Luke. Okay, 1310 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:12,560 Speaker 2: do you believe in bron a bron. 1311 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: I told everyone who would listen I didn't believe in us, 1312 00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:17,840 Speaker 1: and then we'd win. So, Aaron bron Setter, I'm here 1313 00:58:17,880 --> 00:58:19,080 Speaker 1: to tell you I don't believe in you. 1314 00:58:20,840 --> 00:58:23,640 Speaker 3: Well, thank you. I mean, listen, number sixteen Colgate who 1315 00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:26,520 Speaker 3: usually does not beat number one Duke. But I'll take 1316 00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,400 Speaker 3: my one in a thousand chance and try to be 1317 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,880 Speaker 3: Cinderella on that night. But listen, the field for this 1318 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 3: award is just like I'm in such great company. I've 1319 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,680 Speaker 3: got you know, You've got Ariel, You've got Mike Bond, 1320 00:58:36,120 --> 00:58:41,440 Speaker 3: You've got John Morgan, and there's one other nominee and 1321 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,120 Speaker 3: Sean al Shati. Of course, I shouldn't forget our friend Shaheen, 1322 00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,560 Speaker 3: who's a brilliant, brilliant writer. 1323 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:47,000 Speaker 1: You know. 1324 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,000 Speaker 3: I just to be in that kind of company alone, 1325 00:58:49,000 --> 00:58:51,960 Speaker 3: as I consider to be a win. So I'm just 1326 00:58:52,000 --> 00:58:55,760 Speaker 3: happy to have made it to the show. You know, 1327 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 3: I'm like, I am like number sixteen Colgate in this situation. 1328 00:58:58,440 --> 00:58:59,880 Speaker 3: That's how I feel. On I'm just happy to be 1329 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:01,680 Speaker 3: CBS for the opening weekend. 1330 00:59:02,120 --> 00:59:04,960 Speaker 2: Welling you on this show, Aerin, So thank you for 1331 00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:06,240 Speaker 2: your service. 1332 00:59:06,280 --> 00:59:11,080 Speaker 1: Okay, before we hit the eject button real quickly, your assessment, 1333 00:59:11,160 --> 00:59:14,120 Speaker 1: your thoughts on Anthony Rubbel Johnson passing at the age 1334 00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:14,640 Speaker 1: of thirty eight. 1335 00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:19,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, I never I got to spend one day in 1336 00:59:19,120 --> 00:59:22,280 Speaker 3: my entire MMA career with Anthony Rumble Johnson. It was 1337 00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 3: before I was covering the sport and I was a 1338 00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,640 Speaker 3: guest booker, and he came to TSN with Daniel Cormier 1339 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,840 Speaker 3: prior to their rematch in Buffalo, and the two of 1340 00:59:29,840 --> 00:59:31,840 Speaker 3: them were just like buddy buddy there, which you don't 1341 00:59:31,840 --> 00:59:34,240 Speaker 3: see often when you have two people matched up, but 1342 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,440 Speaker 3: you know in terms of him as a person, I 1343 00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:38,560 Speaker 3: didn't really get to know him, But as a fighter, 1344 00:59:39,200 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 3: I don't think that people can underestimate just how powerful 1345 00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,960 Speaker 3: of a man this was. Like he knocked out Glover 1346 00:59:45,080 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 3: t Hera who hadn't been knocked out since his debut 1347 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:49,960 Speaker 3: I think it was twelve years prior. In thirteen seconds. 1348 00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,520 Speaker 3: He was the first person to knock out Alexander Gustafson 1349 00:59:52,560 --> 00:59:54,200 Speaker 3: and he did it inside of two and a half minutes. 1350 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:56,720 Speaker 3: I mean, the kind of power that this man had 1351 00:59:57,480 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 3: is nothing like could he have the most powerful puncher 1352 01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,120 Speaker 3: in the history of m M A pound for pounds, 1353 01:00:03,720 --> 01:00:05,920 Speaker 3: It's a possibility, Like he's up there with the Francis 1354 01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,000 Speaker 3: and Gan news of the world. Just absolutely devastating power. 1355 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:10,880 Speaker 3: And you look at the shot that he hit Daniel 1356 01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Cormier with for Daniel Cormier to survive that, and I 1357 01:00:13,720 --> 01:00:15,600 Speaker 3: think Cormier has said that that was the biggest shot 1358 01:00:15,600 --> 01:00:18,760 Speaker 3: he's ever taken in a fight. Like I think that's 1359 01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 3: gonna be what he's remembered for as being one of 1360 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:22,720 Speaker 3: the guys that one of the best fighters to never 1361 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:27,520 Speaker 3: win a title, and also just for that legendary power, 1362 01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:30,240 Speaker 3: like you don't see that kind of power come along 1363 01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,280 Speaker 3: very often in this sport, and he absolutely possessed it. So, 1364 01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,160 Speaker 3: you know, rest in peace. It's always sad to see 1365 01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:39,280 Speaker 3: young people, especially with Elias Theodore recently in his late 1366 01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:43,320 Speaker 3: thirties now Anthony Johnson in his late thirties, like he's 1367 01:00:43,360 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 3: just got to counter blessings that you know, every day 1368 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:49,080 Speaker 3: above grounds is a good day, and be happy for 1369 01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:50,600 Speaker 3: what we have in this world. And if you look 1370 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:55,600 Speaker 3: at Anthony Johnson's last Instagram, it's kind of like a meme. 1371 01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:58,800 Speaker 3: It was like him slapping his younger self kind of thing, 1372 01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 3: like it's hard, you don't want to live with regrets, 1373 01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,560 Speaker 3: but it's always important to uh, you know, to to 1374 01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 3: just just be thankful for what we have in this life. 1375 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 2: Well said. I was gonna say, well said, and you know, 1376 01:01:13,080 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 2: and it makes it makes us, uh take stock of 1377 01:01:15,960 --> 01:01:18,320 Speaker 2: what we have and and and you know, be thankful. 1378 01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:21,880 Speaker 2: And I'm here to apologize for openly criticizing your claim 1379 01:01:21,880 --> 01:01:24,400 Speaker 2: that you were a high school athlete, Aaron, because you know. 1380 01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:26,480 Speaker 3: My friend, you well, that means more than I never 1381 01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:28,560 Speaker 3: said I was a high school Athlete's like, let's not 1382 01:01:28,560 --> 01:01:30,600 Speaker 3: get a twisted here, but of the three options that 1383 01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:33,480 Speaker 3: Luke gave me. With me being like somebody who recreationally 1384 01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,840 Speaker 3: played basketball, it was more accurate than me being an 1385 01:01:35,840 --> 01:01:38,960 Speaker 3: athlete having failed math twice, and then I forgot what 1386 01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:40,960 Speaker 3: the other option was. The third option was something that 1387 01:01:41,360 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 3: was also not conducive to who I was as a person, So. 1388 01:01:44,320 --> 01:01:48,440 Speaker 2: I felt like Irack, Okay, I'm sorry, Aaron, I'm sorry. 1389 01:01:48,480 --> 01:01:48,840 Speaker 1: All right. 1390 01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 3: For you to doubt my athletic abilities, I think is 1391 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,400 Speaker 3: very fair, So you don't need you need to apologize 1392 01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:54,360 Speaker 3: for absolutely nothing. 1393 01:01:55,960 --> 01:01:57,720 Speaker 2: All right, Champ Champ does what he wants. 1394 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:01,240 Speaker 1: Luke, Okay, Champ Champ does what he fucking wants, all 1395 01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:04,200 Speaker 1: the way from Canada with love, Aaron Bronstter. Folks want 1396 01:02:04,200 --> 01:02:06,520 Speaker 1: to get more of what you're doing, Where do they go? 1397 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:10,480 Speaker 3: Aaron dot Report. It has all of my platforms, all 1398 01:02:10,520 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 3: of my work in one spot, So I got a 1399 01:02:12,680 --> 01:02:15,440 Speaker 3: domain name specifically to make it easier for me to 1400 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,760 Speaker 3: say it on people's shows like this. Let's go to 1401 01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 3: one website Www dot Aaron dot Report, and you can 1402 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 3: find everything there. 1403 01:02:21,400 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 2: Aaron. We can't wait to have you back on to 1404 01:02:23,120 --> 01:02:27,120 Speaker 2: recap the first dick Slab competition from Dana White, We're 1405 01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:27,920 Speaker 2: all very excited. 1406 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:28,479 Speaker 1: So it's great. 1407 01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:29,360 Speaker 2: Thanks for being here. 1408 01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,640 Speaker 3: Absolutely my pleasure, guys, And I'm not sure if I 1409 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:33,720 Speaker 3: will be there to recap that, but I appreciate the 1410 01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:34,840 Speaker 3: invitation nonetheless. 1411 01:02:35,280 --> 01:02:38,840 Speaker 1: Thanks Ab, We'll talk to you soon. Man. All right, 1412 01:02:38,920 --> 01:02:43,120 Speaker 1: there he goes the great Aaron Bronstetter, the pride of Toronto, Canada. 1413 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:45,800 Speaker 2: You know how often, you know, how often in MMA 1414 01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,360 Speaker 2: when we go all nice guy but no chance on 1415 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:51,880 Speaker 2: alarm around my kids for more than five minutes. I 1416 01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 2: would give Aaron Bronstetter a kidney. Look, okay, you know 1417 01:02:54,680 --> 01:02:55,200 Speaker 2: what I'm saying. 1418 01:02:55,440 --> 01:02:57,000 Speaker 1: I wouldn't give him a kidney, but I would trust 1419 01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:58,520 Speaker 1: him around Tuki. That's what you mean. 1420 01:02:58,560 --> 01:02:59,920 Speaker 2: Oh okay, Yeah, that's what I mean. 1421 01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,320 Speaker 1: That's what I mean. All right, all right, I think 1422 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,240 Speaker 1: it's Tom. We're doing DMS from Donks. I don't even 1423 01:03:04,280 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: know what the fuck we're doing on the show today. 1424 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,640 Speaker 1: How about that. I'm pretty well prepared. I've made the rundown. 1425 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 2: He haw he haw he hall. 1426 01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,000 Speaker 1: All right, I don't have to listen in front of me. 1427 01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,480 Speaker 1: Just throw them on the screen. I'm gonna read these 1428 01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:22,200 Speaker 1: hose here from SAA Hill R sixteen worst name. Ever, 1429 01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,480 Speaker 1: where does twenty twenty two rank all time for the 1430 01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,600 Speaker 1: amount of massive upsets in championship fights? I think I 1431 01:03:28,600 --> 01:03:31,439 Speaker 1: have a stat for this BC, but please, sure, what's 1432 01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,680 Speaker 1: your let me find it first, But what'sa answer? 1433 01:03:34,120 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 2: So my my knee jerk reaction is to remember, I 1434 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:39,480 Speaker 2: want to say twenty sixteen, because it certainly encompassed that, 1435 01:03:39,560 --> 01:03:41,720 Speaker 2: But to me, it was like the end of twenty 1436 01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:44,320 Speaker 2: fifteen into twenty sixteen, it hit this run where I 1437 01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:47,720 Speaker 2: suddenly felt like anything was possible. Right we had seen 1438 01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,040 Speaker 2: or I had seen in front of my eyes, Nate 1439 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,680 Speaker 2: upset Connor at that point, you know, down big in 1440 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 2: that second round at one ninety six, Tate Rally that 1441 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,800 Speaker 2: same night for sort of a you know, crazy finish, 1442 01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:02,800 Speaker 2: and then the big bisbeing rock Hold upset that happened 1443 01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:07,680 Speaker 2: at one ninety nine. That stretch that year, and what 1444 01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 2: did we have Rowsey Holme right before that to close 1445 01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:13,240 Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. I just really, you know, although losing by 1446 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:16,280 Speaker 2: one punch against McGregor, that stretch which was you know, 1447 01:04:16,440 --> 01:04:18,360 Speaker 2: arguably the best time to be a fan ever leading 1448 01:04:18,440 --> 01:04:22,160 Speaker 2: up to the sale of the UFC in July of 1449 01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 2: twenty sixteen. That stretched to me. I remember, you know, 1450 01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 2: you could bet the underdog of any UFC main event 1451 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:32,040 Speaker 2: consistently across the board and just make a ton of money. 1452 01:04:32,040 --> 01:04:34,400 Speaker 2: Oh well, Robbie Lawler getting one punched by Woodley. I 1453 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:39,000 Speaker 2: mean it was that same frigging one year stretch right there, Luke. Statistically, 1454 01:04:39,040 --> 01:04:40,680 Speaker 2: I don't know if that matches up, but that's the 1455 01:04:40,720 --> 01:04:43,439 Speaker 2: last time I can remember where we are now, which 1456 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:46,040 Speaker 2: is it was just August that Leon Edwards head kick 1457 01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:50,080 Speaker 2: Kamara Usman and you know, different but similar situation in 1458 01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:53,640 Speaker 2: this fight on Saturday. I'm sure I'm missing countless others upset, 1459 01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,120 Speaker 2: other upsets that went down recently. But yeah, it feels rare. 1460 01:04:58,160 --> 01:05:00,040 Speaker 2: Do you have any kind of time frame or the 1461 01:05:00,080 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 2: nuggets here to put me in order? 1462 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Yeah? So here, I'm not so much about twenty fifteen, 1463 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,360 Speaker 1: but for twenty twenty two, and again, some of these 1464 01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,760 Speaker 1: are interim, so just take that for what it's worth. 1465 01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,600 Speaker 1: But there have been nine new champions if you count interim. 1466 01:05:11,680 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 1: UFC two seventy Devison Figurreta became the flyweight champ UFC 1467 01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:17,000 Speaker 1: two seventy four, as far as it became the women's 1468 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:19,640 Speaker 1: strawweight champ. UFC two seventy five. Year he became the 1469 01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:23,000 Speaker 1: light heavyweight champ UFC two seventy seven, Moreno became the 1470 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:26,400 Speaker 1: interim flyweight champ UFC two seventy seven. Again, Amanda Neonaz 1471 01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:30,120 Speaker 1: recaptures her bantamweight title UFC two seventy eight. Leon Edwards 1472 01:05:30,120 --> 01:05:32,960 Speaker 1: of course wins the Walterwaight crown UFC two eighty Islam Makachev, 1473 01:05:33,320 --> 01:05:35,880 Speaker 1: and then two eighty one you had both Jean Wilee 1474 01:05:35,880 --> 01:05:38,560 Speaker 1: winning women's strawweight and of course Alex Paeda becoming your 1475 01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,800 Speaker 1: new middleweight champion. So this is just sort of goes 1476 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:43,680 Speaker 1: to show I said this before even even before Saturday, 1477 01:05:43,720 --> 01:05:45,360 Speaker 1: this was true BC. If you look at the reign 1478 01:05:45,520 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: of Israel Adisonia, it's just he's the second best middleweight 1479 01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,720 Speaker 1: of all time period, Like he is that guy in MMA, 1480 01:05:53,800 --> 01:05:56,640 Speaker 1: Like by a long shot, he's that guy. And you know, 1481 01:05:56,920 --> 01:06:00,520 Speaker 1: these titles are fucking hard to hold on to for 1482 01:06:00,760 --> 01:06:03,800 Speaker 1: any extended period of time. If you can rack up two, three, 1483 01:06:03,960 --> 01:06:07,760 Speaker 1: four five title defenses, Jesus christ Man, you are doing 1484 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,000 Speaker 1: something very special. But the worm always turns in the 1485 01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: sport and Paeta's new You're new champion, and he deserves it. 1486 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: That's the end of the story. 1487 01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:20,000 Speaker 2: Shouldn't we be less proactive to criticize whether it was 1488 01:06:20,040 --> 01:06:22,439 Speaker 2: you know, the tail end of GSP's title run when 1489 01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 2: he was so careful in the stress of keeping his 1490 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:28,600 Speaker 2: belt led him to, you know, figure out the safest, 1491 01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 2: most efficient ways to do that. And obviously let's take 1492 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,360 Speaker 2: into account at Asanya getting criticized of late and then 1493 01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:37,280 Speaker 2: he comes out and you know, fights excitingly, and then 1494 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,640 Speaker 2: I criticized him for standing in the pocket too long 1495 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,320 Speaker 2: against Pereira before I knew about the leg strikes. But 1496 01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 2: you know, I don't, I don't know. I don't. I 1497 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 2: don't think we should hold again, and I know when 1498 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:50,160 Speaker 2: it happens. It comes more from a casual fan point 1499 01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:53,040 Speaker 2: of view of wanting your pay per view money to 1500 01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,800 Speaker 2: you know, have felt like you got your best reward 1501 01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:58,760 Speaker 2: from it in terms of an action fight, but playing 1502 01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:00,960 Speaker 2: it safe sometimes when you're a champion, to try to 1503 01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 2: actually put together a title reign, I mean, it's kind 1504 01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:07,080 Speaker 2: of becomes what the job is because there's so many 1505 01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:09,640 Speaker 2: ways to lose this. I mean, there's so many ways. 1506 01:07:10,000 --> 01:07:13,160 Speaker 2: It's ridiculous in this sport. There are so many ways 1507 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:16,280 Speaker 2: to lose at any given time with this not even 1508 01:07:16,320 --> 01:07:19,440 Speaker 2: a full mistake, like the hints of a mistake. So 1509 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 2: you know, I vow in the future Luke to value 1510 01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,360 Speaker 2: the w a little bit more. You know, when you 1511 01:07:25,400 --> 01:07:27,960 Speaker 2: don't fight balls out Chandler style, it can it can 1512 01:07:28,000 --> 01:07:31,320 Speaker 2: hold you back on getting certain opportunities. But the people 1513 01:07:31,360 --> 01:07:33,720 Speaker 2: that have put together those wind streaks that you mentioned, 1514 01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:39,520 Speaker 2: that's you know, Demitrius Johnson Anderson Silva sixteen in a row, right, 1515 01:07:39,560 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 2: like Amanda Nunas before that massive upset to Juliana. I mean, 1516 01:07:43,400 --> 01:07:46,760 Speaker 2: it's crazy. Look, it's crazy looking back that it ever 1517 01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 2: actually happens because of how this sport's insane. This sport 1518 01:07:51,640 --> 01:07:53,200 Speaker 2: is absolutely insane. 1519 01:07:53,480 --> 01:07:57,680 Speaker 1: It's fucking crazy. It's very very hard to have sustained success. 1520 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:01,960 Speaker 1: All right, Next, let's see what we got from ten 1521 01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:04,720 Speaker 1: point max mma. Does Michael Chandler deserve excuse me, does 1522 01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,480 Speaker 1: Michael Chandler deliver the best slash most exciting performances in 1523 01:08:08,520 --> 01:08:13,320 Speaker 1: a losing effort of any fighter in UFC history? Uh? 1524 01:08:13,360 --> 01:08:14,760 Speaker 2: That's fair, right, that's fair. 1525 01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,200 Speaker 1: He's up there, he's up there. I mean that's a 1526 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: hard question to answer off the top of my head. 1527 01:08:19,840 --> 01:08:22,280 Speaker 2: I mean, there have been guys like you know who 1528 01:08:22,360 --> 01:08:24,600 Speaker 2: jumps out at me, you know, Chris Liban types in 1529 01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:28,320 Speaker 2: certain stretches where they were really strong b side opponents, 1530 01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:31,000 Speaker 2: but you know, whenever they came back up for air 1531 01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,280 Speaker 2: against the elites, you knew you'd get a fun fight, 1532 01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,479 Speaker 2: but you knew they'd get knocked out. Chandler's not necessarily that. 1533 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:39,080 Speaker 2: Sometimes he can be that against the ultra elite because 1534 01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,679 Speaker 2: of his style. But you know, we were debating who's 1535 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,639 Speaker 2: authored sort of the best action fights in this lightweight 1536 01:08:44,680 --> 01:08:47,120 Speaker 2: modern era. If we broaden that and just look at 1537 01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,360 Speaker 2: the sport as a whole and ask yourself, you know, 1538 01:08:49,400 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 2: who have been the I'll use Arturo Gatti as the comparison, 1539 01:08:52,439 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 2: because when you hear that name in boxing, you just 1540 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:56,200 Speaker 2: you know he got in the Hall of Fame largely 1541 01:08:56,240 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 2: because of that ability to just make insane fights. Yes, 1542 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,719 Speaker 2: we have to start talking about Chandler differently. I think 1543 01:09:03,000 --> 01:09:05,080 Speaker 2: of just what he in five fights in the UFC, 1544 01:09:05,280 --> 01:09:07,160 Speaker 2: what he's put on top of already what was a 1545 01:09:07,280 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 2: very good career, three time belator champion, authored many great 1546 01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:15,639 Speaker 2: action fights or spectacular knockouts. But I don't remember being 1547 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:19,120 Speaker 2: this It's not even this excited that we could get 1548 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, elite level wars. It's this guaranteed, matter of 1549 01:09:23,200 --> 01:09:25,880 Speaker 2: fact expectation now that even if he's fighting for the 1550 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:30,080 Speaker 2: title against Olivera, that Chandler's gonna play video game style 1551 01:09:30,120 --> 01:09:34,439 Speaker 2: the entire fricking time. Even justin Gaichee slightly altered his 1552 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:37,280 Speaker 2: game of late to try to focus more on winning 1553 01:09:37,400 --> 01:09:41,000 Speaker 2: than just going I'm you know, if he was a 1554 01:09:41,040 --> 01:09:43,120 Speaker 2: full on caveman Geechee, he would have tried that same 1555 01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:44,840 Speaker 2: thing against a Beab and everybody else. But no, there 1556 01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:46,320 Speaker 2: came a point in his career where he had to 1557 01:09:46,360 --> 01:09:49,040 Speaker 2: try to play it a little more strategic. Chandler is 1558 01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,559 Speaker 2: literally mashing the buttons. Now. I know there's a reason 1559 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 2: to his rhyme. I'm not saying there's no thought in that, 1560 01:09:54,120 --> 01:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Like he knows how to get the most out of 1561 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,400 Speaker 2: his explosive attacks. But Luke, he might be this era's 1562 01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:02,519 Speaker 2: you know, Arturogatti, and sometimes that's more reserved for a 1563 01:10:02,560 --> 01:10:05,439 Speaker 2: guy who's you know, a journeyman or a guy who 1564 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:08,880 Speaker 2: takes on more defeats, but for an elite fighter. When 1565 01:10:08,920 --> 01:10:11,800 Speaker 2: was the last time we saw somebody this like guarantee 1566 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,679 Speaker 2: if he's on that card against against anybody, it's gonna 1567 01:10:14,680 --> 01:10:16,080 Speaker 2: be insane, guarantee. 1568 01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:18,960 Speaker 1: Yes, I'm not sure where I would go in MMA 1569 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:22,880 Speaker 1: history because also, like in Pride, you know, they had 1570 01:10:22,920 --> 01:10:24,960 Speaker 1: a lot of guys who were like full of that 1571 01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:27,120 Speaker 1: Bushido spirit, who would just fight balls out, not even 1572 01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:29,920 Speaker 1: really trying to win, just trying to entertain, you know. 1573 01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:31,840 Speaker 1: So like we're just Chandler fitting with that, because it's 1574 01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:33,640 Speaker 1: a different era, different kind of thing. So I'm not 1575 01:10:33,640 --> 01:10:35,920 Speaker 1: sure how to answer in the totality of MMA, but 1576 01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:42,800 Speaker 1: certainly in modern MMA, I mean Chuck le'delon right, Yeah, No, 1577 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:44,800 Speaker 1: I don't know about Chuck that way. No, I'm not 1578 01:10:44,840 --> 01:10:47,760 Speaker 1: so sure, not like Chandler. No, Kachi obviously would be 1579 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:50,680 Speaker 1: another one like that too, But that's a it's a 1580 01:10:50,720 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: good question. I have to think about a little bit more. 1581 01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:53,840 Speaker 1: But certainly in the time of which we are right now, 1582 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:55,000 Speaker 1: there's no one quite like him. 1583 01:10:55,160 --> 01:10:57,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Garry Perotska does things like that too, So that's 1584 01:10:57,920 --> 01:11:00,280 Speaker 2: another guy. 1585 01:10:59,240 --> 01:11:02,479 Speaker 1: All right. So let's take a look at question number three. Please, 1586 01:11:02,560 --> 01:11:05,760 Speaker 1: here we go. This is from Turtle Power. With the 1587 01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:08,439 Speaker 1: success of Patata and Izzy coming from Glory, how do 1588 01:11:08,479 --> 01:11:11,200 Speaker 1: you think Rico would do at heavyweight. I mean, the 1589 01:11:11,240 --> 01:11:14,559 Speaker 1: answer is probably pretty well. He has fought MMA before 1590 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:18,320 Speaker 1: against you know, whoever the fuck on you know, Clownpenis 1591 01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:21,200 Speaker 1: dot fart show nothing, nothing too difficult. 1592 01:11:20,840 --> 01:11:23,080 Speaker 2: Brought to you by Cam Soda. Yes, got it, But. 1593 01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:25,439 Speaker 1: The answer is the same, right like Padeta got guys 1594 01:11:25,439 --> 01:11:27,080 Speaker 1: who weren't really going to take him down except for 1595 01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: Bruno Silva and that wasn't much of a threat. And 1596 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:31,519 Speaker 1: then Izzy got him down a little bit, but it 1597 01:11:31,560 --> 01:11:33,640 Speaker 1: wasn't much of a threat. Again. The third round was 1598 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:35,320 Speaker 1: pretty good by Izzy, but you know, in general, one 1599 01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: of four on takedowns. You know, we haven't really fully 1600 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:41,400 Speaker 1: seen him tested at all in MMA against the elite. Again, 1601 01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: be Ab seemed to think that like it was not crazy, 1602 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,080 Speaker 1: but like people were just automatically spelling his demise, which 1603 01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:48,559 Speaker 1: fair enough. You don't know how the fights are going 1604 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:50,519 Speaker 1: to go. But gotta tell you, BC, if he fights 1605 01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:52,720 Speaker 1: Robert Whittaker, I'm picking Whittaker ten times out of ten 1606 01:11:52,760 --> 01:11:58,040 Speaker 1: without much hesitation. So how would Rico do BC as well? 1607 01:11:58,080 --> 01:11:59,640 Speaker 1: But if we don't, we don't know. 1608 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 2: I'd save one of those ten. 1609 01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:05,680 Speaker 1: For I'd save one. I'd save one. It's a figure of. 1610 01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 2: Maybe two maybe two. 1611 01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:10,840 Speaker 1: Like Rico would obviously do well at heavyweight, but there 1612 01:12:10,920 --> 01:12:13,360 Speaker 1: are wrestling guys at heavyweight, and I just don't know 1613 01:12:13,400 --> 01:12:14,040 Speaker 1: how that would go. 1614 01:12:14,840 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 2: Okay, but you don't want to see him and gets 1615 01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:19,080 Speaker 2: over him for the Glory Heavyweight Championship. 1616 01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,160 Speaker 1: Right, Oh, I would love to see that. Sure, I 1617 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,960 Speaker 1: think Rico would win, but I would be happy to 1618 01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:26,760 Speaker 1: see it. Sure, Okay, but this is an m m 1619 01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:30,760 Speaker 1: A sure, Right, I got you? No thoughts? 1620 01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I thought you nailed that. I'm on that 1621 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:35,160 Speaker 2: track with you. He'd have to show. I mean, look 1622 01:12:35,160 --> 01:12:38,840 Speaker 2: at it's not automatic, okinsak luke. It didn't last long, okay, right? 1623 01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:42,760 Speaker 1: Right? Is he a special? Padata is special? Rico is 1624 01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:43,720 Speaker 1: special too, But. 1625 01:12:44,360 --> 01:12:46,040 Speaker 2: You know, I'm not here to tell you Padata's got 1626 01:12:46,040 --> 01:12:48,920 Speaker 2: a great ground game, yet it didn't ultimately become a 1627 01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:52,840 Speaker 2: factor outside of that one takedown. Really, so he seems 1628 01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:57,360 Speaker 2: to be super special in his focused determination, willingness to 1629 01:12:57,520 --> 01:12:59,200 Speaker 2: you know, learn and go. I mean he goes through 1630 01:12:59,360 --> 01:13:02,560 Speaker 2: we saw Foot, he goes through Wars with Glover. In practice, 1631 01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:06,160 Speaker 2: I don't think they're using modern precautions in that gym. 1632 01:13:06,200 --> 01:13:07,240 Speaker 2: I think they're just going to war. 1633 01:13:07,160 --> 01:13:09,840 Speaker 1: Luke, tell you people talk about how hard that sparring is. 1634 01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:13,160 Speaker 1: I've seen way harder. That did not look nearly as 1635 01:13:13,200 --> 01:13:14,639 Speaker 1: crazy as some sparring I've seen. 1636 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,920 Speaker 2: Okay, you mean like, like, are you talking about Bettendorf 1637 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:19,680 Speaker 2: Iowa level sparringly. 1638 01:13:19,400 --> 01:13:21,839 Speaker 1: No, I've never seen that, but I've been to elite 1639 01:13:22,000 --> 01:13:26,000 Speaker 1: mma gym's where they sparred much harder than that. Yeah, Like, 1640 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 1: those guys were definitely sparring hard, but I still thought 1641 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,920 Speaker 1: there was method in their madness. Yeah, that's not nearly 1642 01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:33,599 Speaker 1: as bad as it. 1643 01:13:33,560 --> 01:13:37,120 Speaker 2: Gets turned out. It was just meth. Yeah, all right. 1644 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:44,160 Speaker 1: Next from Cubby's Fan eighty, where does Hanatomai Kano's post 1645 01:13:44,160 --> 01:13:47,960 Speaker 1: fight speech rank amongst the greatest in mm A history? 1646 01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 1: Greatest or worst? BC? What do you think? Oh? 1647 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,640 Speaker 2: I think it's among the best. We're gonna hear it 1648 01:13:51,680 --> 01:13:53,559 Speaker 2: shortly and have you seen this shit? So buckle up? 1649 01:13:53,560 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 2: But you know it is it? Was it memorable enough 1650 01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:59,040 Speaker 2: to you to link it? Like, I don't like, I'm 1651 01:13:59,040 --> 01:14:02,040 Speaker 2: trying to think in the top four or five years? 1652 01:14:02,200 --> 01:14:04,120 Speaker 2: What have we see? And I love the rose I'm 1653 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:07,960 Speaker 2: the best speech that was great. Juliana's Paina's speech was 1654 01:14:08,000 --> 01:14:12,320 Speaker 2: emphatic and inspirational. Derek Lewis, you know, my balls was hot, 1655 01:14:12,479 --> 01:14:15,400 Speaker 2: was insane. I feel like the you know, Moykana calling 1656 01:14:15,479 --> 01:14:17,880 Speaker 2: himself Moykano would just put this thing on a new level. 1657 01:14:19,680 --> 01:14:22,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, for some reason, it wasn't like Nate Diaz beating 1658 01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:25,120 Speaker 1: Connor and then being like, I'm not surprised mother Funker's 1659 01:14:25,439 --> 01:14:28,120 Speaker 1: you know. It wasn't any of that. So it was 1660 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:31,639 Speaker 1: almost like, where do you rank just great post fight 1661 01:14:31,720 --> 01:14:36,759 Speaker 1: speeches unrelated to the fight themselves in that sense pretty 1662 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,920 Speaker 1: high as it relates to the fight itself, and it 1663 01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,360 Speaker 1: was a great win, but it seems a little unrelated. 1664 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:43,679 Speaker 1: I tell you what it felt like to me. BC 1665 01:14:43,800 --> 01:14:46,439 Speaker 1: it felt like he was just trying to announce himself 1666 01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:48,840 Speaker 1: to the world in a way which he hadn't quite 1667 01:14:48,880 --> 01:14:50,519 Speaker 1: had the chance to do that. He's clearly worked on 1668 01:14:50,560 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 1: his English. It showed like he's got a lot of 1669 01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:54,959 Speaker 1: loud opinions. 1670 01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:57,439 Speaker 2: It was better than the time that guy shouted out 1671 01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,240 Speaker 2: Daniel Kinahan. Yeah, yeah, that was it was his name, Lase. 1672 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,759 Speaker 1: Was that the guy's name, lazz Manir Lezez was I missed. 1673 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:07,760 Speaker 1: I got the guy wrong the first time. I don't 1674 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,200 Speaker 1: want to make that mistakes again. But yeah, that was 1675 01:15:11,240 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: not awesome. But you know, no one cares in the sport. 1676 01:15:13,320 --> 01:15:14,760 Speaker 1: You can do whatever the fuck you can. Hey, here's 1677 01:15:14,760 --> 01:15:16,559 Speaker 1: a sexual predator. Hey he's my cornerman. Now. 1678 01:15:16,720 --> 01:15:19,440 Speaker 2: I can't wait to see if Colby's going after DeSantis 1679 01:15:19,439 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four or back with Don Senior. Luke, this 1680 01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:24,320 Speaker 2: is gonna be a He's got a lot of decision 1681 01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:25,320 Speaker 2: making to do right now. 1682 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:27,800 Speaker 1: It will be interesting, all right, Last, but not least, 1683 01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:33,759 Speaker 1: what do we got from ev harkness favorite rumble fights 1684 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:34,880 Speaker 1: slash finishes? 1685 01:15:35,000 --> 01:15:38,920 Speaker 2: Ooh, yeah, this is awful news, Luke, because he's so young, 1686 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 2: Like we all wanted to see him against you all, Romero, 1687 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 2: Like there seemed to be some post career life for him, 1688 01:15:46,040 --> 01:15:48,080 Speaker 2: meaning he retired in the UFC on his own terms 1689 01:15:48,080 --> 01:15:50,799 Speaker 2: the great Rumbel Johnson and then came to to Belt 1690 01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:52,680 Speaker 2: and we weren't expecting the world. In fact, when he 1691 01:15:52,680 --> 01:15:55,880 Speaker 2: fought that late replacement Jose Agusto, it was a crazy war. 1692 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:59,040 Speaker 2: But like he seemed happy. He's got his businesses. You know, 1693 01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:02,599 Speaker 2: he really worked on his business portfolio in his time 1694 01:16:02,600 --> 01:16:05,439 Speaker 2: off from the UFC. But you know, we had heard 1695 01:16:05,439 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 2: what that he exited Beltur with with some some type 1696 01:16:08,880 --> 01:16:10,800 Speaker 2: of illness that he didn't go public with, and now 1697 01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:14,240 Speaker 2: he's gone. So this is insanely sad. And I thought 1698 01:16:14,240 --> 01:16:16,479 Speaker 2: Aaron Brownsteadter kind of nailed the feeling that we all 1699 01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:19,200 Speaker 2: kind of have, but to celebrate what this guy did. 1700 01:16:19,240 --> 01:16:20,880 Speaker 2: And I mean, like, you know that first DC fight 1701 01:16:20,960 --> 01:16:23,240 Speaker 2: is Aaron mentioned, I mean, he's he's he's one punch 1702 01:16:23,280 --> 01:16:26,000 Speaker 2: away from winning the championship right there. We almost got 1703 01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 2: to see him against John Jones. I mean it came 1704 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 2: pretty damn close. But he was also once a welterweight. 1705 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,000 Speaker 2: So when you talk about, like, hey, who's your favorite 1706 01:16:34,040 --> 01:16:36,360 Speaker 2: people to call up on UFC fight Pass to just 1707 01:16:36,439 --> 01:16:39,680 Speaker 2: kill some time, dude rumble as a welterweight, it's just 1708 01:16:39,800 --> 01:16:42,880 Speaker 2: so much friggin fun to watch. It's for as great 1709 01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:44,599 Speaker 2: as he was as a light heavyweight, and he got 1710 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:46,640 Speaker 2: as close as you can get to win the championship. 1711 01:16:47,200 --> 01:16:49,920 Speaker 2: He has this other freak show side to his career, 1712 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:51,479 Speaker 2: which is not really a freak show because he was 1713 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 2: a legitimate rising contender, but look that run as a 1714 01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:57,680 Speaker 2: UFC welterweight. I can'tven believe that ever happened, So My 1715 01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:01,479 Speaker 2: favorite fighter knockout is every fight at even though he 1716 01:17:01,520 --> 01:17:03,880 Speaker 2: authored some sick ones. The Glover one A two UFC 1717 01:17:03,960 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 2: two O two was just, I mean, just ridiculous. But 1718 01:17:07,160 --> 01:17:09,120 Speaker 2: Luke that welterweight run. 1719 01:17:09,720 --> 01:17:12,760 Speaker 1: Damn yeah. I was there for, speaking of which he 1720 01:17:12,800 --> 01:17:16,000 Speaker 1: fought in Washington, DC. He beat Charlie Brenneman at the 1721 01:17:16,000 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 1: then Verizon Center. I was there for that one. Boy. 1722 01:17:18,439 --> 01:17:20,720 Speaker 1: He whipped his afro a lot of different directions with 1723 01:17:20,760 --> 01:17:23,840 Speaker 1: that one. Kevin the fire Burns. People may not remember 1724 01:17:23,880 --> 01:17:25,960 Speaker 1: that fight. I remember that fight. I think there was 1725 01:17:25,960 --> 01:17:27,479 Speaker 1: a couple of them because he got poked in the eye, 1726 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: But those were great for me. I'll say two of them. 1727 01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,160 Speaker 1: Just putting Glover's lights out effortlessly was one. The other 1728 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 1: one was when that motherfucker went all the way to 1729 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:42,000 Speaker 1: Sweden in Alexander Gustafson's hometown and they're in the They're 1730 01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:43,719 Speaker 1: in the Globe and everywhere I think they were, the Globe, 1731 01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:48,080 Speaker 1: wherever they were, they were going fucking crazy for Gustafson 1732 01:17:48,200 --> 01:17:52,200 Speaker 1: and and and Johnson went in there and just methodically 1733 01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:54,760 Speaker 1: closed that fucking show boy. He shut those guys up 1734 01:17:55,240 --> 01:17:59,200 Speaker 1: like that. Unbelievable. This dude was terrifying. 1735 01:18:00,200 --> 01:18:03,440 Speaker 2: I would love to do a resume review on him posthumously, 1736 01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:04,559 Speaker 2: Luke can celebrate him. 1737 01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:08,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, one of the hardest hitters I've ever seen, independent 1738 01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:10,439 Speaker 1: of weight class. I think his power would have Remember 1739 01:18:10,720 --> 01:18:14,000 Speaker 1: he knocked out Arlovsky's teeth at heavyweight in World Series 1740 01:18:14,040 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: of Fighting. Folks don't even remember that Arlovsky's face at 1741 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:18,679 Speaker 1: the end of that. He had a bunch of missing 1742 01:18:18,720 --> 01:18:21,840 Speaker 1: teeth because Anthony Rebel Johnson just fucking worked like a 1743 01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,680 Speaker 1: dentist on him. Man, was terrifying. 1744 01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:27,280 Speaker 2: It went the distance and they were both gassed out. 1745 01:18:27,320 --> 01:18:30,080 Speaker 2: But yeah, that thing was he landed bombs. I mean 1746 01:18:30,120 --> 01:18:32,360 Speaker 2: when I look up and down, I don't know. Man, 1747 01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 2: You know, it would be tough to beat that Glover 1748 01:18:34,680 --> 01:18:36,240 Speaker 2: Glover one or the gusts and one and they were 1749 01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:38,920 Speaker 2: back to back what have you? And uh, I had 1750 01:18:38,920 --> 01:18:40,400 Speaker 2: the wrong card? I who did he knock go to? 1751 01:18:40,479 --> 01:18:40,720 Speaker 1: Oh two? 1752 01:18:40,760 --> 01:18:42,600 Speaker 2: O two was the Glover one? So he had he 1753 01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,000 Speaker 2: had the uh the noog in the Gustus and one 1754 01:18:46,040 --> 01:18:47,800 Speaker 2: back to back. Those two were vicious too. Let's not 1755 01:18:47,800 --> 01:18:48,599 Speaker 2: forget about it, you know what. 1756 01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:50,400 Speaker 1: Oh on, let me add one more to that, Let 1757 01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:51,760 Speaker 1: me add one more of that. I was there for 1758 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:56,400 Speaker 1: this one. I remember this distinctly when John Jones fought 1759 01:18:56,439 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 1: Glover to Chera that was in Baltimore, Maryland, and I 1760 01:18:59,080 --> 01:19:01,920 Speaker 1: got to cover that show for MMA Fighting, and I 1761 01:19:01,960 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 1: remember we had media day, and this was the media 1762 01:19:04,520 --> 01:19:08,400 Speaker 1: day where John Jones was doing pictures for the face 1763 01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,920 Speaker 1: off and Phil Davis got in his face because Phil 1764 01:19:11,960 --> 01:19:15,280 Speaker 1: Davis was supposed to fight a returning Rumble Johnson, who 1765 01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,840 Speaker 1: had been gone from the organization after that failed VTOR 1766 01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,840 Speaker 1: fight weight cut and got bounced and you know, one 1767 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,479 Speaker 1: of the World Series of Fighting and everything else then 1768 01:19:22,520 --> 01:19:25,559 Speaker 1: came back. So this was Rumble's return. Now, Rumble didn't 1769 01:19:25,640 --> 01:19:29,400 Speaker 1: knock him out, but Rumble handled Phil Davis. I mean, 1770 01:19:29,439 --> 01:19:33,400 Speaker 1: he had Phil Davis scared for his life understandably. So 1771 01:19:33,439 --> 01:19:35,720 Speaker 1: he had this return performance where Phil Davis was making 1772 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,439 Speaker 1: a big show about wanting to fight John Jones, totally 1773 01:19:38,439 --> 01:19:41,559 Speaker 1: overlooking Anthony Rumble Johnson. They get in there and Rubble 1774 01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,920 Speaker 1: Johnson let him know right away who's win this was 1775 01:19:43,960 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: gonna be and uh and it was a big, big 1776 01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,320 Speaker 1: moment for his return. I remember that very distinctly. 1777 01:19:49,960 --> 01:19:52,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, and that chat headkick from Charlie Brenneman maybe the 1778 01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,360 Speaker 2: maybe the best single highlight I've ever seen from him. 1779 01:19:55,400 --> 01:19:59,400 Speaker 2: I mean, what just insane power. Yeah, Luke, what else 1780 01:19:59,439 --> 01:20:01,280 Speaker 2: you gonna say this? It's a shocking it's so sad 1781 01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:03,320 Speaker 2: to hear from a guy who had We say. 1782 01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:04,640 Speaker 1: This all the time, but as you get older, you 1783 01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:07,400 Speaker 1: really begin to appreciate it. It is very hard to take 1784 01:20:07,560 --> 01:20:11,320 Speaker 1: mortality and sickness seriously when you're like in your teens 1785 01:20:11,400 --> 01:20:14,280 Speaker 1: or twenties and you've mostly lived a healthy life. You know, 1786 01:20:14,320 --> 01:20:16,800 Speaker 1: it's very, very hard to understand that. But it really 1787 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:19,240 Speaker 1: is true. When you leave your house in the morning 1788 01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,240 Speaker 1: every day to go to work, you do not know 1789 01:20:21,720 --> 01:20:25,519 Speaker 1: if you are coming home. You don't know. It's not 1790 01:20:26,240 --> 01:20:29,000 Speaker 1: a given by any stretch of the imagination. You don't 1791 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:31,479 Speaker 1: know what illnesses are going to befall you. You don't know 1792 01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,720 Speaker 1: what tragedy is coming your way. And so you know, 1793 01:20:34,760 --> 01:20:37,360 Speaker 1: and this is me saying this this sour Puss McGee, 1794 01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:40,960 Speaker 1: but I'm serious, man, You really really have to take 1795 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,120 Speaker 1: life day by day, appreciate what you have, go do 1796 01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:46,479 Speaker 1: the things you want to do, love your people around you, 1797 01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:52,679 Speaker 1: because you may not get any more chances at all. Yeah, 1798 01:20:52,800 --> 01:20:53,439 Speaker 1: that's it. 1799 01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,920 Speaker 2: Well said, well said, any more of them dms from 1800 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,759 Speaker 2: Donks or do we still only have male viewers. 1801 01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,400 Speaker 1: I think that's it, just dudes telling us about their hogs. 1802 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:04,759 Speaker 2: All right, Well we go from somber news and reflection 1803 01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:09,439 Speaker 2: Luke into that shit ridiculule. Yes, this is your favorite 1804 01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,559 Speaker 2: segment of the week, viewer, because it has to be, 1805 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:16,840 Speaker 2: because it's so damn addicting. It's when your boy BC 1806 01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,479 Speaker 2: scholars the Globe, the highs and Low's, the good, the bad, 1807 01:21:19,520 --> 01:21:22,360 Speaker 2: the egglithium between Combat Sports and Beyond and Gaffney Pierre 1808 01:21:22,439 --> 01:21:25,799 Speaker 2: my man sifts through that shit to find the golden 1809 01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,640 Speaker 2: kernels and puts it on the air for your benefit. 1810 01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:31,439 Speaker 2: This is called have you seen this shit? 1811 01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:36,400 Speaker 1: Ow ow? 1812 01:21:36,840 --> 01:21:38,680 Speaker 2: Look, I hear this is a great one. Okay, I 1813 01:21:38,680 --> 01:21:42,000 Speaker 2: would know, I so I curated this bullshit. Okay, you're 1814 01:21:42,040 --> 01:21:44,400 Speaker 2: gonna love the way this looks on you. Here we 1815 01:21:44,439 --> 01:21:46,479 Speaker 2: go UFC two eighty one in New York. Look, before 1816 01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:50,360 Speaker 2: the fights even started in Times Square. Check out Claudia, 1817 01:21:50,680 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, check out Carla Esparza taking on the naked cowboy. 1818 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:56,200 Speaker 2: Did you see this fight? 1819 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:57,000 Speaker 1: See? 1820 01:22:00,040 --> 01:22:04,360 Speaker 2: Still think because I'm heavy here but maybe not? He 1821 01:22:04,439 --> 01:22:05,479 Speaker 2: hit me rang the Bulls. 1822 01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:14,800 Speaker 1: Can the can the NYPD just beat him up with 1823 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:15,799 Speaker 1: night sticks or something. 1824 01:22:16,520 --> 01:22:18,040 Speaker 2: I mean, if I was her, I would burn all 1825 01:22:18,080 --> 01:22:20,880 Speaker 2: of those clothes and shower instantly after that exchange. 1826 01:22:20,960 --> 01:22:24,679 Speaker 1: Luke, he's the grossest man alive. I feel you used to. 1827 01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,919 Speaker 2: Have an incredible figure and now he's just like wiry, 1828 01:22:27,000 --> 01:22:30,679 Speaker 2: strong and old and it's just like, dude, the gimmick's over. Okay, Well, 1829 01:22:30,680 --> 01:22:32,920 Speaker 2: maybe he brings joy, you know, maybe he brings joy 1830 01:22:32,920 --> 01:22:33,240 Speaker 2: to people. 1831 01:22:33,320 --> 01:22:39,040 Speaker 1: Maybe just just set him on fire and call today. 1832 01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:42,720 Speaker 2: Uh Luke, Let's look at uh Poeton's reaction to knocking out? 1833 01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,960 Speaker 2: Is he? This is as stone cold as it gets. 1834 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:45,839 Speaker 2: Look at that face. 1835 01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is how I react after getting something fun 1836 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:50,320 Speaker 1: in the mail. 1837 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:56,080 Speaker 2: But it's magazine day. What are you talking about? 1838 01:22:56,280 --> 01:22:58,799 Speaker 1: Like, if you order something from Amazon and it finally arrives, 1839 01:22:58,840 --> 01:23:00,000 Speaker 1: you know, you're like fuck Yeah. 1840 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:03,120 Speaker 2: Dude, he looks like it didn't affect. Remember when Reggie 1841 01:23:03,160 --> 01:23:05,360 Speaker 2: Miller hit that buzzer beater in the eighty eight Eastern 1842 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,840 Speaker 2: Conference ninety eight Eastern Conference Finals against Jordan and the Bulls, 1843 01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:11,679 Speaker 2: when he pushed off, When Reggie pushed off like a bitch, 1844 01:23:12,040 --> 01:23:14,840 Speaker 2: and Larry Bird didn't even celebrate because he knew there 1845 01:23:14,840 --> 01:23:16,960 Speaker 2: was still time on the clock. He saw it going. 1846 01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,760 Speaker 2: He was just like, that's what Poeton looks like. Like, Yeah, 1847 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:23,639 Speaker 2: I fucking expected this, bro, I ain't surprised at all. Look, 1848 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:25,720 Speaker 2: in fact, we may need a wellness check. How is 1849 01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:28,200 Speaker 2: your heart at the moment because you sat down with 1850 01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:31,559 Speaker 2: this man in a fourteen million dollar mansion. You love 1851 01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:34,640 Speaker 2: Izzy and I respect that out of you. Are you 1852 01:23:34,720 --> 01:23:36,400 Speaker 2: recovering okay from this, dude? 1853 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:38,439 Speaker 1: I really I was. You know, I was a little 1854 01:23:38,439 --> 01:23:41,360 Speaker 1: bit bummed when it first happened, just naturally. But honestly, man, 1855 01:23:41,360 --> 01:23:45,120 Speaker 1: I said this. You know I've said this a lot. Really, Dude, 1856 01:23:45,120 --> 01:23:48,240 Speaker 1: the guys win is legit. I mean, all you can 1857 01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:51,960 Speaker 1: ever hope for is that the person most deserving in 1858 01:23:52,040 --> 01:23:54,960 Speaker 1: the end in a fair contest gets their hand raised. Dude, 1859 01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 1: that's the guy. 1860 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:56,320 Speaker 3: It's poet. 1861 01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: Look that's the guy. 1862 01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 2: Dude, Glover's choking him out. Look at that I missed 1863 01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:00,000 Speaker 2: at the first time. 1864 01:24:00,000 --> 01:24:01,800 Speaker 1: So how do I feel about it? I know that 1865 01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:05,080 Speaker 1: these titles aren't held for very long. Is he fought great? 1866 01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 1: But this guy fought better in the end, at least 1867 01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,479 Speaker 1: in the moment that it counted. He won it fair 1868 01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,920 Speaker 1: and square. His story is amazing. This is life changing 1869 01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:16,040 Speaker 1: for him, It's life changing for his family. How can 1870 01:24:16,080 --> 01:24:18,320 Speaker 1: you hate on that? How can anyone be mad at it? 1871 01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,160 Speaker 1: You can be sad that, like, is he lost if 1872 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:22,240 Speaker 1: you're an Izzy fan or whatever, But you can't be 1873 01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:27,080 Speaker 1: mad that Petta won. He won spectacularly delivered action, got 1874 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,160 Speaker 1: it fair and square. His story's remarkable. Dude, I'm cool 1875 01:24:30,200 --> 01:24:31,200 Speaker 1: with it. I'm cool with it. 1876 01:24:31,960 --> 01:24:33,599 Speaker 2: I'm glad to see that you're in a good place 1877 01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,080 Speaker 2: with this. Luke I had to go through the same 1878 01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:36,479 Speaker 2: thing when Wayley ended Joanna. 1879 01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:36,920 Speaker 1: Okay. 1880 01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:40,000 Speaker 2: I lived through it all right. I made it to 1881 01:24:40,040 --> 01:24:40,559 Speaker 2: the other Yeah. 1882 01:24:40,600 --> 01:24:46,200 Speaker 1: But the difference is I don't want to bang Izzy, okay. 1883 01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:51,439 Speaker 2: Luke I mentioned that Chandler was strategically dripping blood and 1884 01:24:51,560 --> 01:24:57,000 Speaker 2: shooting blood snot rockets, which led poitiate a counter somewhat 1885 01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,679 Speaker 2: dirty on his own. Look at him try to part 1886 01:24:58,720 --> 01:24:59,960 Speaker 2: the red sea right there? You see? 1887 01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,000 Speaker 1: Yeah? That is uh, dude, it looks. 1888 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:06,080 Speaker 2: Like Chandler spit out him too. Watch us closely. 1889 01:25:06,160 --> 01:25:08,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, look at that a little bit. 1890 01:25:08,200 --> 01:25:11,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, dude, that's grimy from Chandler. Dude, trying to shoot. 1891 01:25:11,960 --> 01:25:15,120 Speaker 1: I will say, it is common in this particular position, 1892 01:25:15,240 --> 01:25:17,240 Speaker 1: or when you're stacking someone in jiu jitsu, it is 1893 01:25:17,439 --> 01:25:19,280 Speaker 1: very common. It's happened to me a couple of times 1894 01:25:19,720 --> 01:25:22,320 Speaker 1: where you're you're sweating and your head is directly over 1895 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:24,760 Speaker 1: theirs and then the sweat from your head drops in 1896 01:25:24,800 --> 01:25:28,280 Speaker 1: their mouth. That has happened a number of times. 1897 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,920 Speaker 2: I'm not tough enough to appreciate this. This is freaking disgusting. 1898 01:25:31,960 --> 01:25:33,519 Speaker 2: I don't want to be tough enough to think. 1899 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:35,519 Speaker 1: This is cool. Yeah, like, here's the thing, like, this 1900 01:25:35,560 --> 01:25:37,639 Speaker 1: is this is why. It's like, how does like staff 1901 01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:41,679 Speaker 1: and Matt herpes and shit spread this? That's how that's how. 1902 01:25:42,240 --> 01:25:43,400 Speaker 1: There you go, there, you. 1903 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,120 Speaker 2: Go, all right, let's go to Superman. 1904 01:25:45,360 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 1: You know, Monkey poks kind of fell off the news radar. 1905 01:25:47,840 --> 01:25:50,320 Speaker 1: I didn't really follow it. I was surprised that that 1906 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 1: wasn't more of an issue in jiu jitsu, because you know, 1907 01:25:52,600 --> 01:25:55,000 Speaker 1: motherfuckers were showing up with that ship and not telling anyone. 1908 01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,639 Speaker 2: No, you're right, you're right, No one has monkey pop. 1909 01:25:57,720 --> 01:25:59,360 Speaker 2: It's like pol polio anymore. 1910 01:25:59,400 --> 01:26:01,760 Speaker 1: Hope not Luke your grandparents? 1911 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, FDR did he fought that shit? 1912 01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:07,160 Speaker 1: He never tapped Luke, my dad said he went to 1913 01:26:07,240 --> 01:26:09,880 Speaker 1: kid it went to elementary school with kids who had 1914 01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,200 Speaker 1: polio who like you know, lost ability to walk and shit. 1915 01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 2: You know, yeah, I bet he didn't talk to them either, Luke, 1916 01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:18,679 Speaker 2: let's go to Superman Span ending dom Reyes here, sending 1917 01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,679 Speaker 2: him to the hell's basement. I hate to watch this again, 1918 01:26:21,680 --> 01:26:23,599 Speaker 2: but so it was the left hand. Look how fast 1919 01:26:23,640 --> 01:26:26,200 Speaker 2: it happened. It was that jab that stunned him. 1920 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,840 Speaker 1: Right, he just walked right into rain. Yeah, he walked 1921 01:26:29,880 --> 01:26:30,320 Speaker 1: into it. 1922 01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:31,479 Speaker 3: He really did. 1923 01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,479 Speaker 2: Look at this. Oh god, that left hand was so sharp, 1924 01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:37,880 Speaker 2: and then that clubbing right hand just demolished him. Man, 1925 01:26:37,880 --> 01:26:40,520 Speaker 2: that's a good win for Span, though we tend to sometimes, 1926 01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:42,439 Speaker 2: you know, forget him in this picture. 1927 01:26:42,479 --> 01:26:44,479 Speaker 1: But the problem with that win for Span is the 1928 01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 1: win is tremendous. It's not like you can say anything 1929 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,240 Speaker 1: bad about it. But it doesn't tell you if, like 1930 01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,640 Speaker 1: his ground game got better, right. It just tells you 1931 01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:53,519 Speaker 1: what you already kind of knew, which is, you know, 1932 01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,160 Speaker 1: you stand in front of this fucking guy, He's gonna 1933 01:26:55,160 --> 01:26:57,360 Speaker 1: put your lights out. And so we got that, but 1934 01:26:57,400 --> 01:26:59,280 Speaker 1: we didn't get any new information. 1935 01:27:00,240 --> 01:27:02,880 Speaker 2: Each fight night, Luke gives us another opportunity to join 1936 01:27:02,920 --> 01:27:05,360 Speaker 2: hands with money lie in our favorite one of our 1937 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,479 Speaker 2: favorite sponsors, because they know how to do money right, 1938 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:11,799 Speaker 2: they know how to money and hashtag holy hammer indeed 1939 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:14,759 Speaker 2: for Aaron Blanchfield. But it wasn't just the victory slicing 1940 01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:17,840 Speaker 2: that meatball and half via crucifix. How about the celebration, 1941 01:27:18,040 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 2: Luke cold blooded indeed. 1942 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:28,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's me after chopping like carrots on the on 1943 01:27:28,439 --> 01:27:30,920 Speaker 1: the on the you know, the wood fucking shopping block. 1944 01:27:31,240 --> 01:27:34,360 Speaker 1: All right, I did it without cutting myself each shit world. 1945 01:27:34,439 --> 01:27:36,479 Speaker 2: Dude, she might be hashtag Hammer of the month. 1946 01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:38,559 Speaker 1: She might. I gotta tell you, is she your nominee 1947 01:27:38,600 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 1: for this week? Because she's definitely mine. 1948 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,920 Speaker 2: She is definitely my nominee for the Michael Trezzano. You 1949 01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:46,320 Speaker 2: had a great one round there with with with Choi 1950 01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,360 Speaker 2: and you know, nearly put on the Fight of the 1951 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:50,880 Speaker 2: Year by accident, but this withst was Hammer of the 1952 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,719 Speaker 2: Month right here at Luke. Okay, you can't touch this, Luke. 1953 01:27:55,320 --> 01:27:57,160 Speaker 1: She was widely expected to win though. 1954 01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:01,560 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, all right, let's go to the aforementioned 1955 01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 2: promo of the year. It comes from Hainato Mokano and 1956 01:28:05,120 --> 01:28:08,280 Speaker 2: I'm like, fucking here to thank this motherfuckers. I'm here 1957 01:28:08,280 --> 01:28:08,799 Speaker 2: to thank. 1958 01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:12,040 Speaker 4: COVID making a mistake. I lost only for the best, 1959 01:28:12,439 --> 01:28:15,640 Speaker 4: but today I'm in the fucking best. Were you so 1960 01:28:15,920 --> 01:28:23,080 Speaker 4: many levels like scuttle you look makes some fucking guys, so. 1961 01:28:24,600 --> 01:28:27,120 Speaker 1: I had to be on the fucking rank a minute. 1962 01:28:27,479 --> 01:28:28,480 Speaker 3: This is disrespect. 1963 01:28:28,720 --> 01:28:30,679 Speaker 2: I took a fight, five round, fight. 1964 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 4: Through five days Novus short day, I. 1965 01:28:33,240 --> 01:28:35,760 Speaker 2: Was fucking drinking beer, eat the steaks in musoom and 1966 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:36,840 Speaker 2: they coo. 1967 01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:37,599 Speaker 1: And I'm come here. 1968 01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 2: I turned a buddy for hours and motherfuckers, in respect, 1969 01:28:42,040 --> 01:28:52,439 Speaker 2: I want the fucking bollus mcconna runs money. Look, he 1970 01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:55,920 Speaker 2: also passionately made a plea to beyond Joe's show and 1971 01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:58,200 Speaker 2: did the rogan you know what is trained by day 1972 01:28:58,240 --> 01:29:03,519 Speaker 2: rogan by night routine as well. Dude, Moikano needs to 1973 01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:05,840 Speaker 2: get on our couch. That's what needs to happen next, right. 1974 01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:07,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's how I go to the bank and I 1975 01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:11,559 Speaker 1: make a deposit. Lukeito wants money. 1976 01:29:11,640 --> 01:29:12,280 Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. 1977 01:29:12,560 --> 01:29:15,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, then they pull firearms. Yes, that's what happens, all right. 1978 01:29:15,720 --> 01:29:19,839 Speaker 2: I mean, God, bless him. What a performance, what a promo? Damn? 1979 01:29:19,920 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 2: I hope he got the fifty K. I didn't even check. 1980 01:29:22,160 --> 01:29:25,599 Speaker 2: But Luke elsewhere in NYC on Saturday, did you see 1981 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:29,400 Speaker 2: this fight in the streets Nate Diaz slapping Dylan Danis 1982 01:29:29,400 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 2: outside MSG. 1983 01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,360 Speaker 1: See they say he slapped Dylan. Dylan Danis, by the way, 1984 01:29:33,479 --> 01:29:36,639 Speaker 1: just looking like he has been living in a van 1985 01:29:36,760 --> 01:29:40,920 Speaker 1: down by the river. I mean, he looks terrible, first 1986 01:29:41,000 --> 01:29:45,000 Speaker 1: of all. Second of all, they said he slapped Dylan. 1987 01:29:45,120 --> 01:29:47,200 Speaker 1: I didn't see that. I haven't seen any video of that. 1988 01:29:47,320 --> 01:29:51,040 Speaker 1: I did see video actually of Audi A. Tar Connor 1989 01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:54,439 Speaker 1: McGregor's agent, the head of Paradigm Sports Group or Management 1990 01:29:54,439 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: gro whatever the formal name is, slapping one of Dylan 1991 01:29:57,560 --> 01:30:00,920 Speaker 1: Dennis's teammates, but they're to my knowledge, I have not 1992 01:30:00,920 --> 01:30:03,439 Speaker 1: seen any video of him actually slapping Dylan Dannis, which, 1993 01:30:03,479 --> 01:30:05,599 Speaker 1: by the way, is I would have loved to see it. 1994 01:30:05,680 --> 01:30:06,920 Speaker 1: And by the way, this is also where I have 1995 01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,479 Speaker 1: to wait at three in the morning for one of 1996 01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: my fucking rides. This is that outside the Moyni hand 1997 01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:12,719 Speaker 1: train station. 1998 01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:15,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, people love to see the landmarks of your demise, 1999 01:30:15,200 --> 01:30:17,160 Speaker 2: so thank you for pointing that out. But there are 2000 01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,439 Speaker 2: other angles to this video where he does slap somebody 2001 01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 2: that I agree. I wasn't sure it was Dannis exactly, 2002 01:30:21,600 --> 01:30:23,720 Speaker 2: but that's been the narrative. I didn't do my due 2003 01:30:23,760 --> 01:30:26,000 Speaker 2: diligence to research it. But there's the video for you. 2004 01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:28,960 Speaker 1: This is a true story. Dude, Nate Diaz Dry flies 2005 01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,439 Speaker 1: around the country just slapping people a yeah, just. 2006 01:30:31,439 --> 01:30:33,400 Speaker 2: Looking for Yeah. I mean it's not a bad business 2007 01:30:33,479 --> 01:30:35,479 Speaker 2: plan now that he's a free agent, to try to 2008 01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:39,000 Speaker 2: create like crossover fight events. Yeah. I mean, would you 2009 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,360 Speaker 2: watch him again in a high Roller's main event on 2010 01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:43,639 Speaker 2: pay per view against Dylan Dennis, Yeah, I would look. 2011 01:30:43,920 --> 01:30:46,519 Speaker 1: Yeah, but Dylan pos if Dylan is at all himself, 2012 01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:48,320 Speaker 1: he should win that one relatively comfortably. 2013 01:30:48,360 --> 01:30:50,760 Speaker 2: But he like, all right, we'll have to do it 2014 01:30:50,760 --> 01:30:52,719 Speaker 2: at Belatour. Then we'll have to do it in Belatur. 2015 01:30:53,280 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: But I hit up Bellatour like I don't know a 2016 01:30:55,080 --> 01:30:57,200 Speaker 1: few months ago, being like, is Dylan Dannis still even 2017 01:30:57,280 --> 01:31:00,280 Speaker 1: under contract? And they said yes, they said yes, So 2018 01:31:01,479 --> 01:31:02,840 Speaker 1: I'm is. 2019 01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:05,679 Speaker 2: There Long Island Luke and gaff that that they want 2020 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 2: Nate and Dana's slap League. No, no, stop, stop, guys. 2021 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:12,600 Speaker 1: They should be in Dana's Power Slap League. That's fucking hilarious. 2022 01:31:12,840 --> 01:31:15,760 Speaker 2: This weirdness Okay, they got a TBS contract. By the way, 2023 01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,600 Speaker 2: Damn only in America, Luke, only. 2024 01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,080 Speaker 1: The ANBs will air anything. It's like, Yo, We're just 2025 01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,080 Speaker 1: gonna go out here and fucking wrestle these bears. 2026 01:31:23,560 --> 01:31:26,920 Speaker 2: Well, I was throwing bricks outside the garden, but inside 2027 01:31:26,920 --> 01:31:30,080 Speaker 2: of it, Luke Dave Portenoy, if Barstool was shooting bricks, 2028 01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:31,280 Speaker 2: rate his form here. 2029 01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,439 Speaker 1: Oh boy. Yeah, you know, the guy who's in charge 2030 01:31:36,479 --> 01:31:39,320 Speaker 1: of a sports empire is perhaps the least athletic man 2031 01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:39,920 Speaker 1: I've ever seen. 2032 01:31:40,240 --> 01:31:41,960 Speaker 2: He has one of the I mean I, I mean 2033 01:31:42,000 --> 01:31:43,760 Speaker 2: I I don't have a great jump shot, Luke. I'm 2034 01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:47,080 Speaker 2: a post player, but this is this is uh, it's 2035 01:31:47,080 --> 01:31:47,639 Speaker 2: pretty lame. 2036 01:31:47,680 --> 01:31:50,200 Speaker 1: Here. This is pretty bad. He shoots like some I 2037 01:31:50,240 --> 01:31:52,679 Speaker 1: mean this generally because I remember the first time someone 2038 01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,400 Speaker 1: showed me how to shoot a basketball. I was in 2039 01:31:54,400 --> 01:31:56,559 Speaker 1: fifth grade. Because you know, my parents let me join 2040 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:59,479 Speaker 1: sports teams. Here's here's how this goes. I realized this now, 2041 01:31:59,560 --> 01:32:02,599 Speaker 1: right now that I'm a parent. Some kids have parents 2042 01:32:03,000 --> 01:32:05,040 Speaker 1: who show them how to play sports, and then of 2043 01:32:05,120 --> 01:32:06,760 Speaker 1: course they go into coaching and then the coach takes 2044 01:32:06,760 --> 01:32:09,280 Speaker 1: over or whatever. But my parents were like, oh, do 2045 01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:12,040 Speaker 1: you want to play sports. Well, didn't just you know, 2046 01:32:12,200 --> 01:32:14,120 Speaker 1: go join a fucking league. We're not going to show 2047 01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,960 Speaker 1: you shit. So I didn't know how to do anything 2048 01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:18,719 Speaker 1: until I actually joined the leagues to learn how to play. 2049 01:32:19,080 --> 01:32:20,760 Speaker 1: So I remember the first time someone showed me how 2050 01:32:20,760 --> 01:32:23,200 Speaker 1: to shoot a jump shot. Literally, it looks to me 2051 01:32:23,360 --> 01:32:25,960 Speaker 1: like no one has ever shown Dave Portnoy how to 2052 01:32:26,000 --> 01:32:26,719 Speaker 1: shoot a basketball. 2053 01:32:26,800 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 2: He shoots like Connor a little bit, a little bit 2054 01:32:29,000 --> 01:32:31,200 Speaker 2: like Connor. But that's fine, Luke. He's making a lot 2055 01:32:31,240 --> 01:32:33,040 Speaker 2: of money and betting a lot of money. More on 2056 01:32:33,080 --> 01:32:33,559 Speaker 2: that in a second. 2057 01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,479 Speaker 1: He's rich as balls, but he shoots like you know. 2058 01:32:37,520 --> 01:32:39,719 Speaker 2: The biggest winner of last week was you and I 2059 01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:42,240 Speaker 2: for staying in Jersey City and not taking the subway 2060 01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:45,000 Speaker 2: into Manhattan so that we didn't have to see this. 2061 01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:51,439 Speaker 1: Luke. I fucking hate the New York City subway. I 2062 01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,880 Speaker 1: fucking hate the New York City. Look at this gross 2063 01:32:54,400 --> 01:32:55,280 Speaker 1: piece of shit. 2064 01:32:56,200 --> 01:32:56,760 Speaker 2: Look at this. 2065 01:32:57,160 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: Look at this barn animal And I don't mean the dog. 2066 01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:05,559 Speaker 2: Is he the rhythm guitarist and in Cannibal Corpse playing chance? 2067 01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:05,800 Speaker 1: Luke? 2068 01:33:05,880 --> 01:33:06,719 Speaker 2: That looks great? 2069 01:33:06,840 --> 01:33:09,640 Speaker 1: Wow, dude, look at it? And also do I mean 2070 01:33:09,680 --> 01:33:11,439 Speaker 1: you know, people don't like my white people jokes, which 2071 01:33:11,479 --> 01:33:12,960 Speaker 1: I just do at this point to needle people who 2072 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:14,800 Speaker 1: are very sensitive about it. I don't even really mean it. 2073 01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:18,000 Speaker 1: But they do love making out with dogs, don't they. Yeah? 2074 01:33:18,080 --> 01:33:19,519 Speaker 2: Yeah, they do, shit they do. 2075 01:33:19,720 --> 01:33:20,360 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. 2076 01:33:20,479 --> 01:33:22,240 Speaker 2: I come from a long lot of people that'll make 2077 01:33:22,240 --> 01:33:23,000 Speaker 2: out with cats. 2078 01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:23,519 Speaker 1: Luke, it happens. 2079 01:33:23,560 --> 01:33:25,240 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's I don't. I don't try to 2080 01:33:25,280 --> 01:33:27,679 Speaker 2: take part, believe me. But it's gross. You know it's gross. 2081 01:33:27,920 --> 01:33:32,040 Speaker 2: All right. Let's let's see some MSG fashion statements this week, uh, Luke, 2082 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:33,960 Speaker 2: I want you to give me a rating one to ten, 2083 01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,040 Speaker 2: ten being the coolest, one being the lamest. Here's famed 2084 01:33:37,080 --> 01:33:40,520 Speaker 2: actor musician Jared Leto backstage at the Garden. 2085 01:33:42,080 --> 01:33:44,439 Speaker 1: Just dressed like he's going to a porno theater. Get 2086 01:33:44,479 --> 01:33:46,120 Speaker 1: me some normal clothes on, asshole. 2087 01:33:46,840 --> 01:33:48,600 Speaker 2: I think I think Pee Wee Herman wore at that 2088 01:33:48,640 --> 01:33:50,479 Speaker 2: time in the back of that theater, Luke. Indeed, that 2089 01:33:50,800 --> 01:33:52,599 Speaker 2: nice trench coat you got there, did. 2090 01:33:52,640 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 1: You make it smuggling in a fucking two liter of coke? 2091 01:33:55,439 --> 01:33:56,919 Speaker 1: Wear normal clothes, asshole. 2092 01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,000 Speaker 2: Let's go over to kamaro Ousman dressing like Jenna Jackson 2093 01:34:01,000 --> 01:34:02,920 Speaker 2: in the Rhythm Nation video. Luke, but I'm here for 2094 01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:04,040 Speaker 2: it though, I'm here for it. 2095 01:34:05,720 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 1: Yeah that's a bit much, but uh. 2096 01:34:08,120 --> 01:34:09,720 Speaker 2: I'm okay with this though. This is this is a 2097 01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:10,559 Speaker 2: press you like. 2098 01:34:11,000 --> 01:34:13,639 Speaker 1: So Francis is walking pretty cool and all normal. Show 2099 01:34:13,680 --> 01:34:16,200 Speaker 1: that again. Watch how Kamaru walks. He's got that diddy 2100 01:34:16,200 --> 01:34:19,320 Speaker 1: bopsy right there. Oh yeah, he's got you know, talking 2101 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:20,040 Speaker 1: about this thing. 2102 01:34:20,720 --> 01:34:22,800 Speaker 2: The chains are jangling too. You know, I could get 2103 01:34:22,840 --> 01:34:24,720 Speaker 2: down with this. You got to commit to the part, 2104 01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:27,280 Speaker 2: and he has. But it is a little off putting 2105 01:34:27,320 --> 01:34:28,920 Speaker 2: at first glance. 2106 01:34:29,320 --> 01:34:33,320 Speaker 1: As I've tried it before, just as like a gag. Yeah, 2107 01:34:33,520 --> 01:34:37,920 Speaker 1: the sunglasses inside bit. No, you gotta stop everyone, Yeah, 2108 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:38,799 Speaker 1: gotta stop. 2109 01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:41,400 Speaker 2: Unless you're on you know, copious amounts of cocaine and 2110 01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,160 Speaker 2: you're just trying to keep that hidden. 2111 01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:45,280 Speaker 1: I don't like that one. But then just get some 2112 01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:46,719 Speaker 1: vizine and be quiet. 2113 01:34:47,040 --> 01:34:48,559 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Nat Diez like say, I mean, 2114 01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:49,960 Speaker 2: it's a cool it's a cool look. If you're a 2115 01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,679 Speaker 2: rock star, that's that's a guarantee your driving. 2116 01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:54,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, listen, if you're a rich, young celebrity, 2117 01:34:54,479 --> 01:34:56,760 Speaker 1: obviously you don't listen to me. And BC don't know 2118 01:34:56,760 --> 01:35:00,240 Speaker 1: what the fuck's cool. But sunglasses inside thing. I just 2119 01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:04,000 Speaker 1: I've never I can accept literally everything he's wearing, no problem, 2120 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:06,479 Speaker 1: except the sunglasses inside. I can't do well. 2121 01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:09,960 Speaker 2: Poton was dressing shirtless with a sport code all week. 2122 01:35:10,000 --> 01:35:12,760 Speaker 2: But here's his way in gimmick, Luke, we should have 2123 01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:14,439 Speaker 2: seen this coming, right Wow. 2124 01:35:14,720 --> 01:35:17,479 Speaker 1: Yeah, dude, I gotta tell you this was awesome. That 2125 01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,000 Speaker 1: was fucking awesome. And I don't know what all the 2126 01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:25,400 Speaker 1: imagery or symbolism means, but he looked he looked menacing, 2127 01:35:25,560 --> 01:35:26,000 Speaker 1: did he not. 2128 01:35:26,720 --> 01:35:28,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, he brought that same spirit into the cage, it 2129 01:35:28,920 --> 01:35:31,320 Speaker 2: seems too. By the way, shout out to the UFC 2130 01:35:31,400 --> 01:35:33,920 Speaker 2: for using Radio City Music Hall. I was there, by 2131 01:35:33,960 --> 01:35:36,120 Speaker 2: the way for that Connor and Habib press conference, one 2132 01:35:36,160 --> 01:35:38,439 Speaker 2: of the with no crowd because they were afraid of 2133 01:35:38,439 --> 01:35:41,120 Speaker 2: a riot. One of the craziest moments ever. But he 2134 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,960 Speaker 2: Radio City Music Hall is badass, Luca going to fights 2135 01:35:43,960 --> 01:35:45,559 Speaker 2: there anything like? It's just I love it. 2136 01:35:45,560 --> 01:35:47,920 Speaker 1: I love Yeah, It's great. It's an iconic, iconic place 2137 01:35:47,920 --> 01:35:48,800 Speaker 1: in the New Yeah. 2138 01:35:48,840 --> 01:35:51,560 Speaker 2: The Rockets are the best too, Luke. You know they're 2139 01:35:51,600 --> 01:35:54,000 Speaker 2: great at what they do. The other fashion statement of 2140 01:35:54,040 --> 01:35:56,679 Speaker 2: the week came from is he post fight your thoughts 2141 01:35:56,680 --> 01:35:58,920 Speaker 2: on this uh this hair fur. 2142 01:36:01,840 --> 01:36:04,439 Speaker 1: He's almost done with the Chewbacca costume. You know. 2143 01:36:06,080 --> 01:36:07,720 Speaker 2: We would he be as loyal, Luke? Would he be 2144 01:36:07,800 --> 01:36:08,200 Speaker 2: as loyal? 2145 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:09,920 Speaker 1: I mean no, well, no one is no, I mean, 2146 01:36:09,960 --> 01:36:14,320 Speaker 1: no one can replicate the greatness of Chewbacca. Like I said, man, 2147 01:36:14,479 --> 01:36:17,960 Speaker 1: young people with money they just know things we don't. 2148 01:36:18,400 --> 01:36:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they take chances. We're not willing to, Luke, 2149 01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:23,120 Speaker 2: but we're going to be heavy on the Portnoy. Here 2150 01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:26,559 Speaker 2: here's the thrill of victory followed by the agony of 2151 01:36:26,640 --> 01:36:29,960 Speaker 2: defeat when you gamble heavily with big money at UFC fights. 2152 01:36:30,000 --> 01:36:35,280 Speaker 2: Here's Portnoy celebrating his pourier by submission bet at plus 2153 01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:36,639 Speaker 2: seven fifty odds. 2154 01:36:36,720 --> 01:36:39,040 Speaker 1: Well, ho ho ho ho. Of course he's wearing the 2155 01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:42,400 Speaker 1: Meatball Molly shirt, so they took a bit of an 2156 01:36:42,560 --> 01:36:43,200 Speaker 1: l there early. 2157 01:36:43,320 --> 01:36:46,760 Speaker 2: But yeah, for whatever he won off of that bet, 2158 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,360 Speaker 2: he certainly lost the ten grand he put on Meatball Molly. 2159 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:54,680 Speaker 2: And here's seeing grand. Yeah, he tweeted that take it 2160 01:36:54,720 --> 01:36:56,640 Speaker 2: out at would have won forty grand. Here's him and 2161 01:36:56,680 --> 01:36:59,960 Speaker 2: the other guy, Luke, experiencing their first crucifix. 2162 01:37:00,160 --> 01:37:03,439 Speaker 1: That's that's that's a big cat it's a big cat. Yeah, 2163 01:37:03,479 --> 01:37:05,760 Speaker 1: there's Theo Vaughn sitting next to Jared Letto. What is 2164 01:37:05,800 --> 01:37:06,720 Speaker 1: that conversation? Like? 2165 01:37:06,840 --> 01:37:10,479 Speaker 2: Huh drug Field? I hope, I hope, I hope. 2166 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:11,280 Speaker 1: Yeah. 2167 01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:14,360 Speaker 2: All right, speaking of Portnoy, Luke, we always mentioned on 2168 01:37:14,400 --> 01:37:18,200 Speaker 2: here when real meets real dude, Joe Rogan's got Portnoy 2169 01:37:18,280 --> 01:37:19,760 Speaker 2: looking like Shaquille O'Neal here. 2170 01:37:19,840 --> 01:37:24,760 Speaker 1: Right, Well, you love talking about his height, don't you. 2171 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,080 Speaker 2: I thought Portnoy would be taller. I really did, Luke, 2172 01:37:27,120 --> 01:37:32,880 Speaker 2: I really did. All right, let's go to the punch machine. 2173 01:37:32,920 --> 01:37:36,559 Speaker 2: That's always worth a laugh. Here's your punch of the week. 2174 01:37:39,840 --> 01:37:48,360 Speaker 1: Is that beetlejuice? Oh? Beetle juice? Oh buddy? What happened there? 2175 01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:52,120 Speaker 1: My guy? Why? Why is he walking like if he 2176 01:37:52,120 --> 01:37:55,760 Speaker 1: didn't clench his butt cheeks, feces would come fly? 2177 01:37:56,240 --> 01:37:58,919 Speaker 2: Look at I don't think he has all his uh 2178 01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,679 Speaker 2: ducks in a row, Luke, guy, I mean this is great. 2179 01:38:01,960 --> 01:38:05,439 Speaker 2: He did provide us with great entertainment. Here's reason number 2180 01:38:05,439 --> 01:38:08,960 Speaker 2: fifty seven why European mma is just different. How about 2181 01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:12,360 Speaker 2: this for a between match entertainment product? 2182 01:38:13,640 --> 01:38:14,960 Speaker 1: Just two people fucking what is it? 2183 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:25,320 Speaker 2: They love sacks? 2184 01:38:25,360 --> 01:38:25,760 Speaker 1: Over there? 2185 01:38:25,880 --> 01:38:29,680 Speaker 2: Luke, I mean, yes, yes, my family and I are 2186 01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:30,280 Speaker 2: here for sex. 2187 01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:33,200 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, dude. Do you remember the guy who opened 2188 01:38:33,600 --> 01:38:36,280 Speaker 1: at the MMA Awards last year, the guitar player, Yes 2189 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,599 Speaker 1: with us like he was he'd been on the road 2190 01:38:38,640 --> 01:38:40,320 Speaker 1: for three and a half decades. 2191 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:43,519 Speaker 2: With all those showgirls dancing with like knives around him, 2192 01:38:43,560 --> 01:38:43,880 Speaker 2: that was. 2193 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:47,040 Speaker 1: And everyone around us is like, like, this is truly 2194 01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:48,880 Speaker 1: the vibe. Everyone's like, I'm not saying he's a bad 2195 01:38:48,960 --> 01:38:52,000 Speaker 1: guitar player, but like, you can just start the show 2196 01:38:52,040 --> 01:38:54,760 Speaker 1: without this, you know what I'm saying. You could just 2197 01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:55,719 Speaker 1: just get right to the show. 2198 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:58,679 Speaker 2: Look, you know the everyone's favorite bit on this show 2199 01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:02,559 Speaker 2: is when Luke Thomas rate that tat. 2200 01:39:02,840 --> 01:39:04,120 Speaker 1: Uh shit, here we go, Here we go. 2201 01:39:04,400 --> 01:39:08,320 Speaker 2: You better speak the truth. Here here's Cheeto vera and 2202 01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,080 Speaker 2: an old Cheeto when ham on the back of his 2203 01:39:11,200 --> 01:39:12,200 Speaker 2: skull your thoughts. 2204 01:39:12,600 --> 01:39:16,559 Speaker 1: So people were clowning this tat, and I really mostly 2205 01:39:16,680 --> 01:39:21,400 Speaker 1: don't understand why. Here's why. This is designed to be 2206 01:39:21,479 --> 01:39:24,880 Speaker 1: what's called American traditional. American traditional is more along the 2207 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:27,360 Speaker 1: lines of what you see with these flat saturated colors. 2208 01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:30,240 Speaker 1: It's mostly two D with the with the objects. The 2209 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:33,479 Speaker 1: tiger I have is American traditional. As a matter of fact, now, 2210 01:39:33,760 --> 01:39:35,679 Speaker 1: I will say that if you look at the back leg, 2211 01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:38,960 Speaker 1: it looks like it's twisted like a bag of dough. 2212 01:39:39,120 --> 01:39:42,120 Speaker 1: So they didn't quite get that right. But in general, 2213 01:39:42,640 --> 01:39:45,639 Speaker 1: in general you have to like this style of tattooing, 2214 01:39:45,720 --> 01:39:48,040 Speaker 1: and this style of tattooing that's mostly fine. 2215 01:39:48,800 --> 01:39:51,519 Speaker 2: Okay, so that this is not a mister hebas scenario. 2216 01:39:51,840 --> 01:39:54,559 Speaker 1: No again. You know, by the way, I have to say, like, 2217 01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:58,960 Speaker 1: to get tattoo on your fucking head is yes level 2218 01:39:59,120 --> 01:40:02,200 Speaker 1: that is, to get deep color saturated in your fucking 2219 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:05,479 Speaker 1: scalp like that dude, Cheeto Vera must be tougher than 2220 01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:06,840 Speaker 1: you could ever imagine. 2221 01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:09,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's a real man, Luke, he is a real man. 2222 01:40:09,880 --> 01:40:12,400 Speaker 2: He's about that life, believe it. I'll rate that tat 2223 01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:16,680 Speaker 2: number two a combat favorite in these parts. Luke Britain beltron, 2224 01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:19,240 Speaker 2: wife of Joey and BKFC fame. What do you think 2225 01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:19,560 Speaker 2: about this? 2226 01:40:20,040 --> 01:40:22,760 Speaker 1: So this is flat out excellent. That is a nine 2227 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:26,280 Speaker 1: and a half out of a ten. Great placement, great shading. 2228 01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:30,120 Speaker 1: It's like black and gray portrait realism. Whoever did that 2229 01:40:30,479 --> 01:40:32,560 Speaker 1: knows exactly what they're doing. That's maybe one of the 2230 01:40:32,600 --> 01:40:34,760 Speaker 1: better tattoos I've ever seen on a fighter. That is 2231 01:40:34,800 --> 01:40:36,759 Speaker 1: an excellent, wo excellent tattoo. 2232 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:39,519 Speaker 2: Okay, it screams America too, right. 2233 01:40:39,640 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: Yeah for sure, dude, just go blow it up full screen. 2234 01:40:43,240 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 1: Just look at the inside of the mouth, Look at 2235 01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:48,679 Speaker 1: the feathering and how distinct it is. The eye obviously 2236 01:40:48,720 --> 01:40:51,600 Speaker 1: has like depth as in set into the face. So 2237 01:40:51,680 --> 01:40:53,920 Speaker 1: this would be the opposite of American traditional this weekend 2238 01:40:54,000 --> 01:40:57,680 Speaker 1: portrait realism. That is, that is a superb tattoo. That 2239 01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:58,360 Speaker 1: is excellent. 2240 01:40:58,680 --> 01:41:02,280 Speaker 2: She's an effing feeling. Indeed, Luke, here's our final tattoo 2241 01:41:02,280 --> 01:41:06,400 Speaker 2: of the week. Hoiler Graceley Gracie excuse me, showing off 2242 01:41:06,439 --> 01:41:11,160 Speaker 2: his mister Hebos inspired tribute to his father Helio in 2243 01:41:11,240 --> 01:41:12,320 Speaker 2: the picture behind him. 2244 01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:17,840 Speaker 1: Your thoughts, Luke, that's a bit of a mess. The 2245 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:22,599 Speaker 1: hands look terrible, the gee looks terrible. Yeah, that's not great. 2246 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:24,400 Speaker 1: That's a that's a that's not a great tattoo. No, 2247 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:25,120 Speaker 1: the faces of. 2248 01:41:26,200 --> 01:41:28,040 Speaker 2: You're gonna tell Hoiler that yourself. 2249 01:41:27,800 --> 01:41:31,439 Speaker 1: Luke, No, I would skip that. I would Giveler's amazing Hoiler. 2250 01:41:31,680 --> 01:41:34,080 Speaker 1: Hoiler is one of the Hoiler got the gold at ADCC, 2251 01:41:34,240 --> 01:41:36,760 Speaker 1: I think four times. I mean, Oiler's amazing, but that 2252 01:41:36,840 --> 01:41:38,280 Speaker 1: tattoo is not my favorite. 2253 01:41:38,720 --> 01:41:41,320 Speaker 2: All right, your regional MMA fight of the week, Luke, 2254 01:41:41,360 --> 01:41:44,280 Speaker 2: it's an old guy in slacks taking on two punk 2255 01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:47,040 Speaker 2: kids that I'm sure egged his car, but this chick 2256 01:41:47,120 --> 01:41:51,640 Speaker 2: got wild. Let's see what happened, are we? 2257 01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,800 Speaker 1: Why is this steampunk asshole fighting two Asian kids? 2258 01:41:59,200 --> 01:42:01,519 Speaker 2: Watch the double will guillotine attempt coming up? 2259 01:42:05,439 --> 01:42:09,040 Speaker 1: They would go on, Is this like TikTok versus the typewriter? 2260 01:42:09,200 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 1: What is this ship? 2261 01:42:10,400 --> 01:42:12,960 Speaker 2: I didn't research it? Is this like that fight circus camp? 2262 01:42:13,000 --> 01:42:13,479 Speaker 2: Soa ball? 2263 01:42:13,520 --> 01:42:13,640 Speaker 4: Oh? 2264 01:42:13,880 --> 01:42:16,000 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, it is fight circus where they just do 2265 01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 1: whatever the fucking I think it's in Thailand or something. 2266 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:20,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brett Brookhouse loves that stuff, Luke, So. 2267 01:42:21,120 --> 01:42:23,160 Speaker 1: They'll straight up be like, Yo, we're gonna put this 2268 01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:26,000 Speaker 1: featherweight against I don't know, a hippopotamus. Baby, let's just 2269 01:42:26,000 --> 01:42:26,639 Speaker 1: fucking do it. 2270 01:42:26,840 --> 01:42:33,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, Luke. Mayweather took on Daisy yesterday and Dubai on paper. Yeah, 2271 01:42:33,280 --> 01:42:36,559 Speaker 2: but I was more focused on Big John Fury, father 2272 01:42:36,640 --> 01:42:41,479 Speaker 2: of Tyson, nearly killing Jake Paul on commentary. Enjoy yourself 2273 01:42:41,560 --> 01:42:46,080 Speaker 2: some of this right now, bro, easy? 2274 01:42:46,120 --> 01:42:49,559 Speaker 4: Now, hold on, guys, hold on, hold on now, John 2275 01:42:49,680 --> 01:42:51,000 Speaker 4: Fury is taking the shirt off. 2276 01:42:51,080 --> 01:42:52,680 Speaker 1: Hold on, why didn't take a shirt off? 2277 01:42:53,840 --> 01:42:54,759 Speaker 2: He's a fighting man. 2278 01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,720 Speaker 4: John Fury trying to get out of the ring and 2279 01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:04,400 Speaker 4: get to Jakie. My goodness, Graze, this is unfolded terribly 2280 01:43:04,479 --> 01:43:07,080 Speaker 4: bugs Now John showing some shadow boxing. 2281 01:43:11,000 --> 01:43:14,160 Speaker 1: Luke, let me remind you Fury's the Fury's level of 2282 01:43:14,240 --> 01:43:19,880 Speaker 1: confidence is inversely proportional to the greatness of their physiques. 2283 01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:20,559 Speaker 1: Have you noticed that? 2284 01:43:20,960 --> 01:43:23,759 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a great call, so U. Let me remind 2285 01:43:23,800 --> 01:43:26,400 Speaker 2: you that John Fury once took a man's eyeball out 2286 01:43:26,439 --> 01:43:29,200 Speaker 2: in a bar fight. Did jail time? Is now no 2287 01:43:29,280 --> 01:43:31,759 Speaker 2: longer allowed to fly to the US. I asked Tyson 2288 01:43:31,760 --> 01:43:34,720 Speaker 2: about that incident on my interview with him two years ago, 2289 01:43:34,760 --> 01:43:37,000 Speaker 2: which led to hit him hanging up on me. They 2290 01:43:37,040 --> 01:43:39,360 Speaker 2: will fight. Did you see at the press conference for 2291 01:43:39,400 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 2: this two weeks ago that he almost got in a 2292 01:43:40,880 --> 01:43:43,080 Speaker 2: fight with Anthony Taylor as well? Remember him, He was 2293 01:43:43,600 --> 01:43:46,160 Speaker 2: on one of those Jake undercards, the former Belatur fighter. 2294 01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah. John Fury is not like my father at all, 2295 01:43:49,439 --> 01:43:51,439 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like no or very different people. 2296 01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:53,559 Speaker 2: Well, I would hope your dad acts like that when 2297 01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,200 Speaker 2: the rents do on that investment property in Vegas. Luke, 2298 01:43:56,400 --> 01:43:58,920 Speaker 2: that's what I hope. But uh, that was that was 2299 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,200 Speaker 2: the end of a Tommy fight, and Jake was on 2300 01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:05,160 Speaker 2: commentary in his whole comania Sue win win, Yeah, but 2301 01:44:05,200 --> 01:44:07,960 Speaker 2: he looks like a last last second switch on opponent 2302 01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:08,759 Speaker 2: the other opponent. 2303 01:44:09,000 --> 01:44:09,200 Speaker 1: Wait. 2304 01:44:09,960 --> 01:44:12,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's a lot of Shenanian's going on. But here's 2305 01:44:12,040 --> 01:44:16,280 Speaker 2: Tommy Fury and Jake Paul nearly coming to blows afterwards too, too. 2306 01:44:16,640 --> 01:44:19,679 Speaker 1: Chack chack, chake. We've got a mic. 2307 01:44:22,160 --> 01:44:24,519 Speaker 4: Come on, come on, pussy ass, get out of here. 2308 01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:26,759 Speaker 1: Cut let's go. You're fucking sucking fighting. 2309 01:44:26,840 --> 01:44:27,200 Speaker 4: Let's go. 2310 01:44:27,479 --> 01:44:31,439 Speaker 2: Pull up, PULLU PULLU. Yeah, let's go. 2311 01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:35,200 Speaker 1: Bro come here, come here all? Are you all? 2312 01:44:35,240 --> 01:44:36,960 Speaker 2: Are you come to Papa? 2313 01:44:37,320 --> 01:44:42,160 Speaker 4: Come to Papa, Come to Papa, Come to Papa. Let's go. 2314 01:44:45,240 --> 01:44:46,080 Speaker 2: Come to Papa. 2315 01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:47,080 Speaker 1: Was the refrain. 2316 01:44:47,200 --> 01:44:50,280 Speaker 2: Luke, does this get you jazzed up to get on 2317 01:44:50,320 --> 01:44:54,719 Speaker 2: an airplane to London Showtime pay per view Tommy versus 2318 01:44:54,800 --> 01:44:56,960 Speaker 2: Jake sometime in twenty twenty three, in Luke, we can 2319 01:44:57,040 --> 01:44:58,160 Speaker 2: make this happen. Come on you in. 2320 01:44:59,840 --> 01:45:02,800 Speaker 1: Uh only if John Fury is shirtless for the entire 2321 01:45:02,840 --> 01:45:03,240 Speaker 1: fight week. 2322 01:45:03,320 --> 01:45:06,040 Speaker 2: The dude first request to showtime. If this actually happened, 2323 01:45:06,040 --> 01:45:08,599 Speaker 2: by the way, which is in play, it's possible. First 2324 01:45:08,640 --> 01:45:13,439 Speaker 2: request room service diaries with John Fury on the ground, shirtless, instantaneous, Luke, 2325 01:45:13,680 --> 01:45:15,760 Speaker 2: like like the second we get off the plane, I 2326 01:45:15,800 --> 01:45:17,559 Speaker 2: want the couch on the runway. I want to make 2327 01:45:17,560 --> 01:45:21,559 Speaker 2: sure this happens. All right, agreed, We'll pay him in bitches, 2328 01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:26,720 Speaker 2: all right, Luke. Remember Delphine pursued. Remember she was the 2329 01:45:26,760 --> 01:45:30,880 Speaker 2: Belgian cop who had two just all action fights against 2330 01:45:31,280 --> 01:45:37,679 Speaker 2: Katie Taylor. Delphine took on Ikram Kirawat and this would 2331 01:45:37,720 --> 01:45:40,200 Speaker 2: go down as a no contest. But watch the finish here. 2332 01:45:43,479 --> 01:45:48,760 Speaker 2: Oh you can't hit it down, opponent. 2333 01:45:48,479 --> 01:45:50,400 Speaker 1: You can't he So is that why it's no contest? 2334 01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:51,840 Speaker 1: Because she did the old a bit. 2335 01:45:52,280 --> 01:45:54,639 Speaker 2: I don't get why it wasn't a disqualification because that's 2336 01:45:54,680 --> 01:45:57,439 Speaker 2: not an accidental foul. But if an accidental fall happens 2337 01:45:57,479 --> 01:46:00,400 Speaker 2: before round four, typically it can become a no contest 2338 01:46:00,400 --> 01:46:03,479 Speaker 2: based on the commission. But uh, we're in Dubai, so 2339 01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:06,479 Speaker 2: the commission could be uh could be uh, you know, 2340 01:46:07,000 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 2: Sean Shelby for all I know. But yeah, that was weird. Okay. 2341 01:46:10,880 --> 01:46:13,000 Speaker 2: Elsewhere in boxing, you want to see weird Luke. They 2342 01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:15,479 Speaker 2: held a royal rumble in the The Zone main event, and 2343 01:46:15,600 --> 01:46:20,040 Speaker 2: Montana Love took his first career l by DQ for 2344 01:46:20,200 --> 01:46:24,000 Speaker 2: tossing Stevie Spark into the crowd. 2345 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,679 Speaker 1: Okay, what the fuck is he doing? 2346 01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,160 Speaker 2: He lost the fight, that's what he's doing. This was 2347 01:46:29,200 --> 01:46:31,120 Speaker 2: early on, they were mixing it up. It was a 2348 01:46:31,120 --> 01:46:37,120 Speaker 2: decent fight, but then that happened. So they call it here, Yeah, 2349 01:46:37,160 --> 01:46:39,960 Speaker 2: they called it a DQ. He criticized the ref afterwards. 2350 01:46:40,080 --> 01:46:42,280 Speaker 2: Montana did. He said he definitely wants a rematch. But 2351 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:44,639 Speaker 2: we saw him in the past on a Jake undercard. 2352 01:46:44,640 --> 01:46:47,360 Speaker 2: He is an unbeaten, legitimate young fighter out of Ohio 2353 01:46:48,000 --> 01:46:50,720 Speaker 2: and he got pissed enough to launch the guy. So 2354 01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,640 Speaker 2: there you go. That's what happens. 2355 01:46:54,040 --> 01:46:54,559 Speaker 1: That's weird. 2356 01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:58,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it is okay elsewhere in boxing. On 2357 01:46:58,439 --> 01:47:00,720 Speaker 2: the top rank under card in Las Vegas, remember this guy, 2358 01:47:00,760 --> 01:47:03,880 Speaker 2: Floyd cash Flow Diaz with the crazy hair. 2359 01:47:04,160 --> 01:47:05,000 Speaker 1: Oh yes, I do. 2360 01:47:05,080 --> 01:47:07,960 Speaker 2: M he makes statements. Check out this one. He's now 2361 01:47:08,000 --> 01:47:14,040 Speaker 2: eight and oh whoa, I want Fulton. 2362 01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:16,120 Speaker 1: I want in a way on his trunks. My man 2363 01:47:16,200 --> 01:47:17,719 Speaker 1: wants some fucking smoke. 2364 01:47:17,920 --> 01:47:20,880 Speaker 2: Yes he does. He actually put that I didn't notice 2365 01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,280 Speaker 2: that until now. That's that's brilliant. He improved to eight 2366 01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:26,080 Speaker 2: and oh with the t KO of ed Gore Cortes. 2367 01:47:26,800 --> 01:47:29,320 Speaker 2: He's not fighting world beaters, but he is making noise. Luke, 2368 01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:30,200 Speaker 2: he's making a lot of noise. 2369 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:31,800 Speaker 1: This guy. Hey, he's been on this show a number 2370 01:47:31,880 --> 01:47:34,879 Speaker 1: of times and he's not been here for unfun reasons. 2371 01:47:34,920 --> 01:47:35,639 Speaker 1: I like this guy. 2372 01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:39,160 Speaker 2: Ricky Hatton and Marco Antonio Barrera had one of those 2373 01:47:39,240 --> 01:47:43,240 Speaker 2: legends boxing matches over the weekend. But here was Ricky 2374 01:47:43,280 --> 01:47:46,559 Speaker 2: Hatton's ring walk Luke. This this popped me and owe 2375 01:47:46,600 --> 01:47:52,559 Speaker 2: to Willie Walko with the cane right, Jesus, oh my god, 2376 01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:56,600 Speaker 2: this is hilarious. I got or it's the beginning of 2377 01:47:56,640 --> 01:47:58,400 Speaker 2: an adult movie. I can't figure out which one, but 2378 01:47:58,439 --> 01:47:58,840 Speaker 2: that's great. 2379 01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,000 Speaker 1: He's just going to go bang them both between rounds. 2380 01:48:02,640 --> 01:48:05,360 Speaker 2: And Luke on that top rank undercard I mentioned, here's 2381 01:48:05,400 --> 01:48:09,680 Speaker 2: Emiliano Vargas, the two and oh son of Fernando Vargas, 2382 01:48:10,120 --> 01:48:11,920 Speaker 2: with a sick ko. 2383 01:48:12,400 --> 01:48:18,640 Speaker 1: Damn. He did the Leo Santa Cruz bit after Givante 2384 01:48:18,760 --> 01:48:20,960 Speaker 1: knocked him out, where he goes forward then backward. 2385 01:48:21,520 --> 01:48:21,720 Speaker 4: Yeah. 2386 01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,519 Speaker 2: One of the many Vargas suns that are Yeah, the 2387 01:48:25,600 --> 01:48:28,920 Speaker 2: Vargas Sons just signed with top rank and uh damn 2388 01:48:29,040 --> 01:48:30,960 Speaker 2: this is a guy to watch apparently, so look at 2389 01:48:31,000 --> 01:48:31,360 Speaker 2: that shit. 2390 01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:31,720 Speaker 3: Woo. 2391 01:48:31,920 --> 01:48:33,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm not sure if the ropes in boxing do 2392 01:48:34,000 --> 01:48:35,880 Speaker 1: what they're supposed to. Can I just be honest about that? 2393 01:48:36,120 --> 01:48:39,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, you've seen too many guys go through it on 2394 01:48:39,439 --> 01:48:40,200 Speaker 2: this segment. 2395 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:42,960 Speaker 1: All these ropes all the time. Dude. 2396 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's bad. 2397 01:48:45,120 --> 01:48:47,920 Speaker 2: All right, Let's go to Charlie Sheehy. He's a twenty 2398 01:48:47,960 --> 01:48:50,800 Speaker 2: four year old lightweight prospect five and oh what was 2399 01:48:50,800 --> 01:48:53,599 Speaker 2: better here? The knockout or the celebratory dance? 2400 01:48:53,680 --> 01:48:59,960 Speaker 1: Luke? All right, let's see his opponents are standing in 2401 01:49:00,160 --> 01:49:05,280 Speaker 1: front of him. Okay, is he fighting the guy who 2402 01:49:05,280 --> 01:49:06,960 Speaker 1: missed on the punch machine? 2403 01:49:09,040 --> 01:49:10,840 Speaker 2: Are you into that type of celebration, Luke? 2404 01:49:11,080 --> 01:49:13,320 Speaker 1: I'll take the knockout over the dance, although I have 2405 01:49:13,360 --> 01:49:15,559 Speaker 1: to say people doing the gritty when they win and 2406 01:49:15,640 --> 01:49:17,840 Speaker 1: anything in sports and then it ends up on sports centers, 2407 01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:20,839 Speaker 1: fucking Instagram feed. I hope all those people get paralyzed 2408 01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:21,519 Speaker 1: from the net. 2409 01:49:21,840 --> 01:49:23,640 Speaker 2: Does that include Michael Buffer who showed up in this 2410 01:49:23,680 --> 01:49:24,639 Speaker 2: segment doing that dance? 2411 01:49:24,720 --> 01:49:24,920 Speaker 3: Luke? 2412 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:25,920 Speaker 2: And the Eagles. 2413 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:28,040 Speaker 1: I love I love Michael Buffer, but it's been a 2414 01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:30,720 Speaker 1: nice run time. All right. 2415 01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:32,519 Speaker 2: I want to make you aware of this six foot 2416 01:49:32,600 --> 01:49:36,280 Speaker 2: nine heavyweight prospect named Antonio Morells who goes by the 2417 01:49:36,320 --> 01:49:41,120 Speaker 2: nickname Eligante. He uh, he scored a KO two over 2418 01:49:41,200 --> 01:49:43,880 Speaker 2: five 't ten Eric Perry. And you know anytime there's 2419 01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:45,559 Speaker 2: fat heavyweights, they're getting on this show, Luke. 2420 01:49:46,280 --> 01:49:47,880 Speaker 1: Did he fall through the ropes? Oh no, they held 2421 01:49:47,960 --> 01:49:48,679 Speaker 1: him in this time. 2422 01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:50,920 Speaker 2: What do you think of this six ' to nine 2423 01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:53,439 Speaker 2: prospect here? Elante? 2424 01:49:55,120 --> 01:50:02,000 Speaker 1: The giant? I mean, he's not fighting world beaters. Looks 2425 01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:03,320 Speaker 1: like yep, yep. 2426 01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,400 Speaker 2: Somebody to watch? Okay, somebody to watch? All right, let's 2427 01:50:07,439 --> 01:50:09,680 Speaker 2: go to the ping pong table. Here's your smash of 2428 01:50:09,720 --> 01:50:15,920 Speaker 2: the week. Watch the shirtless fellow. 2429 01:50:17,160 --> 01:50:19,600 Speaker 1: Is that John Fury? 2430 01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,960 Speaker 2: And that's a perfect transition into what I like to 2431 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,880 Speaker 2: call dirty dancing gone wrong. We've seen this a few times, 2432 01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:28,600 Speaker 2: maybe not this violence. 2433 01:50:28,920 --> 01:50:30,120 Speaker 1: Oh get wow. 2434 01:50:30,560 --> 01:50:32,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, she had the time of her life, Luke, And 2435 01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,840 Speaker 2: she's never felt this way before? Neither is that guy? 2436 01:50:34,960 --> 01:50:35,160 Speaker 1: Right? 2437 01:50:35,400 --> 01:50:35,719 Speaker 2: Wow? 2438 01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:38,000 Speaker 1: I've often hoped that women would do this in my 2439 01:50:38,080 --> 01:50:39,719 Speaker 1: face at clubs, but it never happened. 2440 01:50:41,000 --> 01:50:41,120 Speaker 3: Uh. 2441 01:50:41,200 --> 01:50:43,799 Speaker 2: Look this is becoming one of the most requested videos. 2442 01:50:43,840 --> 01:50:46,960 Speaker 2: People cannot wait to see your reaction to this level 2443 01:50:47,080 --> 01:50:49,519 Speaker 2: flexing from this young man. This was caught on an 2444 01:50:49,720 --> 01:51:00,519 Speaker 2: ESPN college football broadcast. Or maybe that's ac seen that work. 2445 01:51:00,560 --> 01:51:02,840 Speaker 2: My fault, Luke, my fault shown up. 2446 01:51:02,960 --> 01:51:05,000 Speaker 1: My man showed up from his shift at foot locker 2447 01:51:05,040 --> 01:51:08,280 Speaker 1: to be like, Yo, look I got a Cotsco card 2448 01:51:08,840 --> 01:51:10,640 Speaker 1: trying to fuck you know. 2449 01:51:10,760 --> 01:51:12,600 Speaker 2: That worked too. Look at the reaction. I bet you 2450 01:51:12,640 --> 01:51:13,120 Speaker 2: that worked. 2451 01:51:14,080 --> 01:51:19,120 Speaker 1: That is fucking awesome. Man was trying anything to get 2452 01:51:19,120 --> 01:51:19,599 Speaker 1: some action. 2453 01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, college basketball, that was what it was. Okay, a 2454 01:51:22,400 --> 01:51:26,200 Speaker 2: couple more here, Luke, you've lamented about your growing balding situation, 2455 01:51:26,280 --> 01:51:27,400 Speaker 2: although I can't really see it. 2456 01:51:27,439 --> 01:51:27,720 Speaker 1: I can't. 2457 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:29,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, well here, this guy's got a nice fix for you. 2458 01:51:29,720 --> 01:51:31,680 Speaker 2: You asked me, BC, how do how do I fix this? 2459 01:51:31,840 --> 01:51:32,679 Speaker 2: Here's my answer. 2460 01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:41,240 Speaker 1: You know, BC, you can't be clown in blue collar ingenuity. 2461 01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:44,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look it works. Watch the ending. Here 2462 01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:54,240 Speaker 2: is this what Lebron James did? Wow, look at the 2463 01:51:54,280 --> 01:51:55,799 Speaker 2: lines on that. That's perfect. 2464 01:51:56,720 --> 01:51:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah. Maybe we got to do this in studio next 2465 01:51:58,680 --> 01:51:59,240 Speaker 1: time with Neon. 2466 01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:02,559 Speaker 2: Yeah. Who should we call like a car detailer or 2467 01:52:02,600 --> 01:52:04,160 Speaker 2: like a yeah exactly. 2468 01:52:04,240 --> 01:52:06,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure, but this this looks like it could work. 2469 01:52:06,720 --> 01:52:10,200 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, okay, Uh, Luke, don't drinking table dance. Everybody 2470 01:52:10,200 --> 01:52:11,040 Speaker 2: knows that rule. 2471 01:52:10,840 --> 01:52:15,400 Speaker 1: Right, No, no, the ladies don't know that. Oh right, 2472 01:52:15,479 --> 01:52:18,679 Speaker 1: how did I call that one? Man? She's light seems 2473 01:52:18,680 --> 01:52:19,160 Speaker 1: so out of here. 2474 01:52:19,240 --> 01:52:26,040 Speaker 2: Oh god, that's that's ok o right there? Wow, okay, okay, Uh. 2475 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,800 Speaker 2: Sometimes the lady dancers get themselves, but Luke, sometimes they 2476 01:52:28,880 --> 01:52:31,280 Speaker 2: kill other people. Check out this woman. She's very happy. 2477 01:52:34,200 --> 01:52:39,240 Speaker 2: She's heavy happy, I said, not heavy. Oh yeah, she 2478 01:52:39,320 --> 01:52:41,639 Speaker 2: might be heavy too. Look that's that's where keys. She's 2479 01:52:41,680 --> 01:52:42,920 Speaker 2: finisher in w w E. 2480 01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, I tell you, is it isn't? Is it? Well? 2481 01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,519 Speaker 1: Hold on? You said the the Latin guy was elhi gante. 2482 01:52:47,680 --> 01:52:49,719 Speaker 1: Maybe we got to change the nicknames up here. 2483 01:52:49,840 --> 01:52:53,479 Speaker 2: Yeah to this lady's caboose. But uh enjoy that they enjoy? 2484 01:52:53,560 --> 01:52:55,160 Speaker 3: Wow that the yikes. 2485 01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,880 Speaker 2: That's child abuse. And finally, Luke, we've got white women 2486 01:52:57,920 --> 01:53:00,880 Speaker 2: in the hood, or actually white women, and I'm the hood. 2487 01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,200 Speaker 2: Your thoughts. 2488 01:53:03,160 --> 01:53:09,080 Speaker 1: This is going to end poorly. I'm guessing what are 2489 01:53:09,080 --> 01:53:15,240 Speaker 1: they playing in that car? And nobody caught her, nobody 2490 01:53:15,320 --> 01:53:17,840 Speaker 1: even helped. Look at that no, they were just like, 2491 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:22,360 Speaker 1: you know, just letting nature take its course. I'm glad 2492 01:53:22,439 --> 01:53:23,760 Speaker 1: she got on the show because it looks to me 2493 01:53:23,800 --> 01:53:25,479 Speaker 1: like she's going to catch a Darwin Award in a 2494 01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:26,080 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. 2495 01:53:28,640 --> 01:53:30,800 Speaker 2: Wow, Luke. When she heard her jam, she had to 2496 01:53:30,920 --> 01:53:32,479 Speaker 2: just let it loose. We can all, we can all. 2497 01:53:32,720 --> 01:53:34,680 Speaker 2: When you hear, Luke, when I'm around you in a 2498 01:53:34,720 --> 01:53:38,080 Speaker 2: reggaetn song comes on, You're like, yo, BC, this is 2499 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:39,160 Speaker 2: for real the ship. 2500 01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:43,120 Speaker 1: It's not reggaeton by the way, it's my jam. 2501 01:53:43,160 --> 01:53:43,479 Speaker 2: Bitch. 2502 01:53:45,640 --> 01:53:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, what do you think they're listening to? Is it 2503 01:53:47,160 --> 01:53:48,639 Speaker 1: like Cotton Eye Joe or some stupid bull? 2504 01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:52,080 Speaker 2: Oh no, no, Daddy yanky, daddy. 2505 01:53:51,880 --> 01:53:53,000 Speaker 1: Yanky, as my wife would say. 2506 01:53:53,080 --> 01:53:56,000 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, Well great meet and your wife and 2507 01:53:56,080 --> 01:53:57,599 Speaker 2: kid this weekend. Luke, what a time. 2508 01:53:57,680 --> 01:53:59,240 Speaker 1: What can you tell the viewers about? What can you 2509 01:53:59,240 --> 01:54:00,880 Speaker 1: tell the viewers about? Wonderful family? 2510 01:54:01,400 --> 01:54:04,640 Speaker 2: They are just sweet, you know, real people, And and 2511 01:54:04,760 --> 01:54:07,200 Speaker 2: Tukes took right all. She walked into the room service 2512 01:54:07,240 --> 01:54:09,920 Speaker 2: diary studios, grab the microphone and was like, I mean 2513 01:54:10,040 --> 01:54:12,920 Speaker 2: just took over, Luke. It was great. She loved the 2514 01:54:13,000 --> 01:54:14,680 Speaker 2: rotary phone. She was a big fan of that. 2515 01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,640 Speaker 1: She did love the rotary phone. Yeah right now, let 2516 01:54:16,640 --> 01:54:18,960 Speaker 1: me ask you, are you surprised that people that normal 2517 01:54:18,960 --> 01:54:21,519 Speaker 1: and sweet have entered into a life agreement with me? 2518 01:54:22,000 --> 01:54:25,559 Speaker 2: Yes, I'm trying to figure out like what your wife 2519 01:54:25,760 --> 01:54:27,640 Speaker 2: didn't see in you that I see that would have 2520 01:54:27,640 --> 01:54:31,680 Speaker 2: prevented that from happening. But you know, I'm sure you're 2521 01:54:31,720 --> 01:54:35,120 Speaker 2: like a romantic protector and a real nice guy and stuff. 2522 01:54:35,160 --> 01:54:36,960 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. 2523 01:54:37,600 --> 01:54:41,040 Speaker 2: Seriously, just the joy to meet the missus. Thomas so 2524 01:54:41,480 --> 01:54:43,440 Speaker 2: enjoyed that a lot. I can't wait for you to 2525 01:54:43,440 --> 01:54:45,000 Speaker 2: meet Reggie Jackson one day, Luke. 2526 01:54:44,840 --> 01:54:46,720 Speaker 1: All right, yeah, I would love to meet Reggie Jackson. 2527 01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:49,360 Speaker 1: Scratch this, I bet he rules. 2528 01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:51,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's great, he's great. 2529 01:54:51,120 --> 01:54:52,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, but no, Luke, that's the ship of the week, 2530 01:54:52,880 --> 01:54:54,560 Speaker 2: and I think we do have to bring back up 2531 01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,040 Speaker 2: that we're getting. We're a couple weeks into Holy Hammer time, 2532 01:54:57,080 --> 01:55:00,400 Speaker 2: right Hammer of the Month the Morning Combat crossover promotion 2533 01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,600 Speaker 2: with money Lion Goes. 2534 01:55:02,800 --> 01:55:04,680 Speaker 1: For more information, of course, you can see the graphic 2535 01:55:04,720 --> 01:55:06,280 Speaker 1: right there. You can also just use your phone and 2536 01:55:06,320 --> 01:55:09,040 Speaker 1: scan the QR code moneyline dot com slash Morning Combat. 2537 01:55:09,360 --> 01:55:11,000 Speaker 1: Here's what you're gonna do. You can go to Twitter 2538 01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:14,320 Speaker 1: and follow and tag at money Lion, or you can 2539 01:55:14,360 --> 01:55:17,520 Speaker 1: go to Instagram at money Lion Inc. Let them know 2540 01:55:17,640 --> 01:55:19,760 Speaker 1: who you think deserves to be the Hammer of the month. 2541 01:55:19,840 --> 01:55:22,080 Speaker 1: Somebody who's a sending who maybe isn't getting quite the 2542 01:55:22,080 --> 01:55:25,000 Speaker 1: pub that they deserve this week. That both BC and 2543 01:55:25,040 --> 01:55:27,680 Speaker 1: I think Aaron Blanchfield is that person. You can use 2544 01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:30,120 Speaker 1: the hashtag Holy Hammer of the hashtag Hammer of the Month, whatever. 2545 01:55:30,520 --> 01:55:34,200 Speaker 1: Let money Lion know what you think or who actually say, 2546 01:55:34,200 --> 01:55:36,360 Speaker 1: who you think deserves this award for this week. At 2547 01:55:36,360 --> 01:55:38,040 Speaker 1: the end of the month, we're gonna tally it all 2548 01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:40,120 Speaker 1: up and come with a single winner. We're gonna mail 2549 01:55:40,160 --> 01:55:43,560 Speaker 1: them that amazing hammer and it'll be good moneyline dot 2550 01:55:43,560 --> 01:55:46,480 Speaker 1: com slash Morning Combat for more information. 2551 01:55:46,840 --> 01:55:49,400 Speaker 2: Did that hammer is so legit that I'm actually excited 2552 01:55:49,400 --> 01:55:52,000 Speaker 2: about the prospect of fighters like getting it in the 2553 01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,360 Speaker 2: mail and you know, you know what I mean. 2554 01:55:54,720 --> 01:55:59,400 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how it all goes. I'm cautiously optimistic, cautiously. 2555 01:55:59,200 --> 01:56:02,400 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, I'm into that, and should they shouldn't use 2556 01:56:02,440 --> 01:56:04,440 Speaker 2: the hashtag Holly Hammer, right, No. 2557 01:56:04,640 --> 01:56:07,360 Speaker 1: Holly Hammer. We're gonna reserve that for Christmas. That's gonna 2558 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:10,080 Speaker 1: be the Christmas hashtag. Okay, but Holy Hammer or Hammer 2559 01:56:10,120 --> 01:56:11,720 Speaker 1: of the month will either of those? 2560 01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:14,160 Speaker 2: I think I'm into that special. Thanks again for Aaron 2561 01:56:14,200 --> 01:56:18,000 Speaker 2: Bronstetter for checking us out, joining in from TSN fine 2562 01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:23,480 Speaker 2: MMA journalist himself and you know Vinyl Racontour in many ways, Luke, 2563 01:56:23,520 --> 01:56:27,600 Speaker 2: But can he beat can he beat Ariel? I mean, 2564 01:56:27,640 --> 01:56:31,800 Speaker 2: this isn't about Ariel, It's about a bron the Canadian king, right. 2565 01:56:31,960 --> 01:56:35,040 Speaker 2: It's his time, Luke, it's his time. 2566 01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:40,800 Speaker 1: It might be, but that's gonna be a hard monopoly 2567 01:56:40,840 --> 01:56:41,240 Speaker 1: to break. 2568 01:56:41,800 --> 01:56:44,800 Speaker 2: You're like, yeah, I'm sure, yeah, sure, yeah. I mean 2569 01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:46,520 Speaker 2: you were the guy that had some hope in pain 2570 01:56:46,600 --> 01:56:49,040 Speaker 2: you because of her BBL statue, Luke. So I'm gonna 2571 01:56:49,160 --> 01:56:51,640 Speaker 2: retain some level of hope fare for Aaron. I mean, 2572 01:56:52,040 --> 01:56:53,400 Speaker 2: Ariel's got enough of them, Luke. 2573 01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:55,960 Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, he didn't need anymore, but he might get. 2574 01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:58,160 Speaker 2: More, you know, like on once we went our like 2575 01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:01,400 Speaker 2: seventh consecutive Best Podcast the Year award. That's when I'm 2576 01:57:01,440 --> 01:57:04,080 Speaker 2: gonna start being like, okay, guys, can we can we 2577 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:06,160 Speaker 2: give the submission radio guys a high five already because 2578 01:57:06,160 --> 01:57:07,360 Speaker 2: they're great? Okay, can we do that? 2579 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:11,120 Speaker 1: Please all right, fair enough. I want to remind everyone 2580 01:57:11,160 --> 01:57:13,040 Speaker 1: showtime dot Com is the label that pays. As the 2581 01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:15,240 Speaker 1: week progresses, we're going to really lean into the show 2582 01:57:15,320 --> 01:57:17,800 Speaker 1: that the next Bellator card, what is it? What's the 2583 01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,120 Speaker 1: number on this card? Is it to eighty seven? 2584 01:57:21,160 --> 01:57:23,200 Speaker 2: I don't remember the number, but I remember the name 2585 01:57:23,240 --> 01:57:25,320 Speaker 2: of who's in it, and it's going to be fan friggintastic. 2586 01:57:25,360 --> 01:57:28,240 Speaker 2: I mean, we gotting Corey Anderson Vedem Nemkov one million 2587 01:57:28,280 --> 01:57:31,800 Speaker 2: dollars at stake the light heavyweight world title. Let's do this. Okay, 2588 01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:34,120 Speaker 2: well they they took that away from us the first time, 2589 01:57:34,120 --> 01:57:34,560 Speaker 2: but now we. 2590 01:57:34,520 --> 01:57:37,360 Speaker 1: Get it back. I was close, belatour Two eighty eight 2591 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,360 Speaker 1: is the card. Listen to this card. Vadem nem call 2592 01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:43,640 Speaker 1: Cory Anderson to the rematch. Pitbull versus usmannera made off? Hello, 2593 01:57:43,800 --> 01:57:47,800 Speaker 1: That one is my favorite. Yep, let's say pit Well, 2594 01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:50,440 Speaker 1: it's pit Bull. Let's Petrika pipep taking on usman nimbera 2595 01:57:50,520 --> 01:57:55,600 Speaker 1: made off. Daniel Weischer versus Tim Moore. He's herey his reef. 2596 01:57:55,600 --> 01:57:57,640 Speaker 1: I'm not sure to say that one. Tyrrell Fortune take 2597 01:57:57,640 --> 01:58:00,320 Speaker 1: it on Daniel James. And then this one BC. This 2598 01:58:00,360 --> 01:58:03,720 Speaker 1: guy Roman Feraldo Roman Ferraaldo. He should not forget that name. 2599 01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:08,000 Speaker 1: A striking savant, a highlight machine taken on the Georgia 2600 01:58:08,000 --> 01:58:11,000 Speaker 1: and live on Chokeley. I can't pronounce his name quite 2601 01:58:11,000 --> 01:58:12,800 Speaker 1: all that well, but those fights at the top of 2602 01:58:12,840 --> 01:58:16,280 Speaker 1: that card are fucking bangers, and of course that will 2603 01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:19,480 Speaker 1: be on November eighteenth at the wind Trust Arena in Chicago, Illinois. 2604 01:58:19,520 --> 01:58:21,680 Speaker 1: So if you want to watch that on Showtime, Showtime 2605 01:58:21,720 --> 01:58:23,520 Speaker 1: dot Com is the label that pays. Of course, I 2606 01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:25,760 Speaker 1: want to thank some of our other folks here involved 2607 01:58:25,760 --> 01:58:29,840 Speaker 1: Morning Coombat dot Store, RJ Dunkel, Gangbang getting everything lined 2608 01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:30,680 Speaker 1: up there for us. 2609 01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:33,840 Speaker 2: By the way, com spoiler alert, Anthony Smith was in 2610 01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:38,480 Speaker 2: our studio on Saturday and he gladly received a morning 2611 01:58:38,560 --> 01:58:39,240 Speaker 2: Hub T shirt. 2612 01:58:39,920 --> 01:58:42,840 Speaker 1: He did Morning Hub Morning Combat Hub. Yes, the one 2613 01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:45,640 Speaker 1: that I get the most odd looks at when I 2614 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:48,880 Speaker 1: wear it to the grocery store. That's the one. And then, 2615 01:58:48,920 --> 01:58:51,720 Speaker 1: of course Morning Combat at gmail dot com is the 2616 01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:55,520 Speaker 1: place to go for emails relating to fan subs, or 2617 01:58:55,520 --> 01:58:57,480 Speaker 1: for Friday's Dead wrong, or just to reach the show. 2618 01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:59,800 Speaker 1: The producers do see it, we don't, so you don't 2619 01:58:59,800 --> 01:59:01,760 Speaker 1: have a like. Dear Luke and Brian because we're not 2620 01:59:01,760 --> 01:59:02,520 Speaker 1: going to see it, but the. 2621 01:59:03,160 --> 01:59:07,600 Speaker 2: Dear Mikey mostly but Luke. YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. 2622 01:59:07,640 --> 01:59:09,240 Speaker 2: Just a reminder of folks, not only if you only 2623 01:59:09,280 --> 01:59:11,200 Speaker 2: watch our live shows and reactions do we have so 2624 01:59:11,280 --> 01:59:15,520 Speaker 2: much great interviews and bonus content, including this week Laura 2625 01:59:15,600 --> 01:59:17,760 Speaker 2: Sanko on the Room Service Diaries couch. I mean, come on, 2626 01:59:17,800 --> 01:59:20,200 Speaker 2: you're gonna want to see that. But just a reminder 2627 01:59:20,240 --> 01:59:23,960 Speaker 2: on how YouTube has restructured everything under the tabs. It 2628 01:59:24,040 --> 01:59:26,120 Speaker 2: is confusing if you don't know. There's a home tab, 2629 01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,680 Speaker 2: there's a video tab, there's a live tab. Depending on 2630 01:59:29,760 --> 01:59:33,960 Speaker 2: what we're doing, it's gonna fall under different ones live shows, right, interviews, 2631 01:59:34,000 --> 01:59:36,680 Speaker 2: special pull apart, so you got to kind of check 2632 01:59:36,720 --> 01:59:38,960 Speaker 2: them all to make sure that you're completely up to 2633 01:59:39,040 --> 01:59:41,480 Speaker 2: date on our content. You also can just sign up, 2634 01:59:41,520 --> 01:59:44,240 Speaker 2: by the way and hit like subscribe and even get 2635 01:59:44,280 --> 01:59:46,760 Speaker 2: you know, text or email notifications each time we put 2636 01:59:46,800 --> 01:59:48,600 Speaker 2: out a new one. But don't miss all the good 2637 01:59:48,600 --> 01:59:51,280 Speaker 2: stuff going on YouTube dot com slash Morning Combat. 2638 01:59:51,560 --> 01:59:53,600 Speaker 1: There you have it, and so of course the when 2639 01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:56,760 Speaker 1: you go there, it's got videos, shorts and live. The 2640 01:59:56,840 --> 02:00:00,920 Speaker 1: shows will appear under the live banner or the live 2641 02:00:01,000 --> 02:00:03,160 Speaker 1: vertical shorts of course, what you think they are their 2642 02:00:03,200 --> 02:00:09,000 Speaker 1: YouTube shorts, and then videos is anything we just upload separately, interviews, documentaries, 2643 02:00:09,160 --> 02:00:11,080 Speaker 1: whatever they may be. But the live shows are going 2644 02:00:11,120 --> 02:00:14,240 Speaker 1: to be under the live tab YouTube dot Com slash 2645 02:00:14,240 --> 02:00:16,560 Speaker 1: Morning Combat. All right, if you see any final thoughts 2646 02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:17,720 Speaker 1: before we call it today. 2647 02:00:18,040 --> 02:00:20,840 Speaker 2: Thanks guys. Great week of fights coverage through the weekend. 2648 02:00:20,920 --> 02:00:22,320 Speaker 2: We put out a lot of content. We got a 2649 02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:25,720 Speaker 2: lot of great feedback. We appreciate you, you know, living 2650 02:00:25,760 --> 02:00:28,200 Speaker 2: and dying with us, because that's what this is all about, Luke, okay, 2651 02:00:28,200 --> 02:00:30,600 Speaker 2: trying to prevent the ladder and trying our best to 2652 02:00:30,640 --> 02:00:33,520 Speaker 2: continue to enjoy the former. And if you ain't living, 2653 02:00:33,560 --> 02:00:36,760 Speaker 2: you're dying. So Aripter the Great Rumble Johnson. We've had 2654 02:00:36,760 --> 02:00:39,840 Speaker 2: a lot of fun covering his career, and like Aaron 2655 02:00:39,880 --> 02:00:42,840 Speaker 2: Bronstetter said, right, hug those close to you, call your mom, Luke, 2656 02:00:42,840 --> 02:00:44,360 Speaker 2: I gotta call my mind. I got you know, I 2657 02:00:45,160 --> 02:00:48,040 Speaker 2: gotta check in, check in. Okay, keep keep keep your 2658 02:00:48,040 --> 02:00:51,200 Speaker 2: connections strong and firm. Thank you, folks, We love you. 2659 02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:53,600 Speaker 1: That's all right. That's so four. That's a great message 2660 02:00:53,600 --> 02:00:56,720 Speaker 1: for Brian Campbell, CBS Sports Showtime, and by the way, 2661 02:00:56,720 --> 02:00:59,520 Speaker 1: one more time, big thanks to the Mulka crew who 2662 02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:01,720 Speaker 1: put up with us all week. They had everything ready 2663 02:01:01,800 --> 02:01:04,080 Speaker 1: to go. They helped us to get everything done, and 2664 02:01:04,120 --> 02:01:05,560 Speaker 1: I know it was a lot of long days and 2665 02:01:05,600 --> 02:01:07,240 Speaker 1: a lot of late nights in the long hours. So 2666 02:01:07,320 --> 02:01:10,040 Speaker 1: thank you all of you on the Malka staff very 2667 02:01:10,080 --> 02:01:12,320 Speaker 1: much for helping us out. We really appreciate it. And 2668 02:01:12,360 --> 02:01:14,400 Speaker 1: that's it for us today. Back on Wednesday. I'll have 2669 02:01:14,440 --> 02:01:16,840 Speaker 1: extra credit out a little bit later, but until then, 2670 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:19,520 Speaker 1: thank you guys so much for watching for Showtime, CBS Sports, 2671 02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,200 Speaker 1: Malka and everyone else involved. We're out until next time. 2672 02:01:22,240 --> 02:01:23,880 Speaker 1: May all of your gains be loyal.