1 00:00:01,320 --> 00:00:04,360 Speaker 1: The game Steel on this still pray for me. I 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: come from the school of truth. All right, you don't 3 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: want you don't want to watch every steel the average 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: stat roller, stat rod, straight shot, nor put your girl 5 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 1: tessel figure out on the black Effect, podcasting at work, tasting. 6 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: Anyone choose a side of step aside of the step, 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna ask you a question. Quick. Let's just 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: keep the real straight shot with no Jason, you know, 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,559 Speaker 1: being his mind, I'm gonna get a little rocky road. 10 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: I'm organized from block. You ain't whist you stat wrong, wrong, 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: very that's right? Dot Com? What's up family? As you know, 12 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:10,160 Speaker 1: I have lived in Florida, Oklahoma City, Chicago, Houston, Dallas, 13 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,960 Speaker 1: but make no mistake about it, Florida is my political 14 00:01:13,120 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: stomping ground. I have done more work in the State 15 00:01:15,680 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: a Florida than any other city. It is home to me, 16 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: always has been, always will It is my goal to 17 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 1: in politics. Everything that I have done that I consider 18 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: productive and also has pissed me off. As all started 19 00:01:26,319 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 1: at the State of Florida. Today, I have a very 20 00:01:28,640 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: important guest. One of the first politicians that I ever 21 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: met in the state of Florida, Orlando Florida specifically to 22 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: be exact, her name is Madam Clark Tivity More Russell. 23 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:40,000 Speaker 1: Some of us call her t mofa showing she made 24 00:01:40,080 --> 00:01:42,880 Speaker 1: history by becoming the youngest county commissioner ever elected to 25 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,600 Speaker 1: serve on the Orange County commission I was there. This 26 00:01:46,959 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: woman was ground pound and pregnant and all. I will 27 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,640 Speaker 1: never forget having a huge belly out still knocking on 28 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: doors in Orlando, Florida, which is why I don't like 29 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 1: hearing excuses from Democrats talking about they can't get out. 30 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 1: But anyway, I'll sit there right there. Clark Russell has 31 00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 1: also when she made history being the first African American 32 00:02:03,080 --> 00:02:06,080 Speaker 1: female clerk elected in Florida and the first African American 33 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: clerk in Orange County. She is a member of Alpha 34 00:02:09,720 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 1: Kappa Alpha. I had to say that the list goes 35 00:02:12,520 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: on and on. A mother of two boys, um, she 36 00:02:15,800 --> 00:02:19,520 Speaker 1: is a woman that I really learned from as far 37 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: as how to organize both sides in a county that 38 00:02:22,320 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: has Republican as well as Democrat, but never ever stopping 39 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,200 Speaker 1: who she is, are changing who she isn't always being authentic. 40 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: If there's anybody that I know that can work both sides. 41 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:34,440 Speaker 1: Not just when I say the owl, I mean both 42 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: sides of the street, meaning she can go to an 43 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: a k A dinna. She also can go to the hood, 44 00:02:39,400 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: she can work with a nonprofit, she can work with 45 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 1: her Republican constituencs. This is who it is. I wanted 46 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:49,320 Speaker 1: to have Madam Clerk Tiffany Moore Russell on the line 47 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 1: with us today because this is so important to talk 48 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: about what the clerk and what the court has to 49 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:55,760 Speaker 1: do with it. We know that song would Love has 50 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 1: to do with it. Today's episode is what does the 51 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,519 Speaker 1: court have to do with it? Well, come, Madam Clerk, 52 00:03:02,280 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 1: how are you? We thank you for having me today 53 00:03:06,400 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 1: and that robbing introductions. I know you are busy being 54 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,560 Speaker 1: the clerk accords and that's so important. Let's just first 55 00:03:15,600 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: start right there. Tell the listeners what does the Clerk 56 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: of Court do? How does it impact their lives on 57 00:03:22,520 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: on a day to day basis, and why is it 58 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,799 Speaker 1: in an elected position? So that's a great question. I 59 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: know you have listened. You're listening audiences all over the country. 60 00:03:29,880 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: So it varies by state. Not every clerk in the 61 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: state where you may live is elected. They could be 62 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: appointed by the chief judge. But in the state of Florida, 63 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: the clerk is a constitutional officer. Our role and duties 64 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,119 Speaker 1: are built into the Florida Constitution. That's where we're protected. 65 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: And we are the official keeper of the court record. 66 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 1: So you're talking about the protection of evidence, capturing what 67 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 1: actually is happening in the courtroom. And that's the and 68 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: it's a neutral party. The clerk doesn't care who wins 69 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: or loses. We're just there to makes you we get 70 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 1: it right right, they were capturing what actually happen because 71 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: that record follows those parties for a long time based 72 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,160 Speaker 1: on whatever the retention rules are. And then we are 73 00:04:06,240 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: the collector of funds and fees in Florida. That means 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: you get a traffic citation um, you file for any 75 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,520 Speaker 1: filing fee for any cases comes to the clerk's office. 76 00:04:14,560 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: And then we're the official office that married people in Florida. 77 00:04:17,720 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: So it's interesting there's over a thousand duties in our 78 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: Florida statutes that have the clerk's name listed in the 79 00:04:23,760 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 1: state of Florida. So and so the clerk is important 80 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:31,840 Speaker 1: because we don't try to manipulate how justice is implemented. 81 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 1: We're there to be the neutral party to capture what happened, 82 00:04:35,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 1: who said, what, what was the ruling, what was the 83 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: you know, the decision for the judge, so that it's 84 00:04:40,320 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: correct and accurate. That is our whole purpose because it 85 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: helps for appellate reasons when someone wants to appeal their case. 86 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: So you want to make sure you have an accurate 87 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: record that depicts what actually happened in the court. How 88 00:04:50,760 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: is it that people make that partisan because you assume 89 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:55,800 Speaker 1: the position that was held by Republican for a very 90 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:58,520 Speaker 1: very long time. You are a Democrat. How were you 91 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: able to come in and and get both sides too, 92 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,280 Speaker 1: because let's be honest, they look at Republicans is very 93 00:05:04,320 --> 00:05:06,840 Speaker 1: conservative and how they manage things and so forth. How 94 00:05:06,920 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 1: were you able to, as a specifically as a black woman, 95 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: to come in and get both of those sides to 96 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 1: you know, trust you and bothe for you, because it 97 00:05:14,320 --> 00:05:17,080 Speaker 1: surely wasn't just one side that supported you. M So 98 00:05:17,160 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: how are you able to do that? So? I think, Tess, 99 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: you have to. I think one of the great things 100 00:05:20,880 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: a smart elected official or any leaders should do is 101 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: find out what your potential customers or targeted groups care 102 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:31,279 Speaker 1: about the most. And I don't care whether you Republican Democrat. 103 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: We all care about quality customer service. We all care 104 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:37,240 Speaker 1: about access to our government officials and mention that it 105 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:41,320 Speaker 1: is efficient. Um, you have quality service, competent workers. That's 106 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: all we care about, right, And so one of the 107 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:46,040 Speaker 1: things UM that assisted me in running for the clerk's 108 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: office is talking about the justice system. You know, access 109 00:05:49,279 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: to justice is based upon income. That's wealth. Now now 110 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:55,080 Speaker 1: we're talking about poverty versus access money those who can 111 00:05:55,160 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: afford it, and money that's not always sometimes can equal 112 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 1: equal for everybody, whether you are wired or black. If 113 00:06:01,800 --> 00:06:03,920 Speaker 1: you can't afford a for her dollar retainer feed, then 114 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:05,920 Speaker 1: you're more attracted to the clerks. That has a self 115 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:08,840 Speaker 1: help center. So it's offering those services that you know, 116 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,480 Speaker 1: when you're filing for a divorce or you're facing in eviction, 117 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 1: if you want to resolve your legal issues. And so 118 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:17,080 Speaker 1: I tried to push those issues. UM. That makes sure 119 00:06:17,120 --> 00:06:20,440 Speaker 1: that it connected with everybody across their party affiliation. And 120 00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: so when you think about those lawyers cared about me 121 00:06:23,160 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: opening up a self help center because it made it 122 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: made it more efficient to do with the judges, because 123 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:29,919 Speaker 1: now you have a more knowledgeable party on the other side. 124 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:31,560 Speaker 1: You know you've seen that. You used to be a 125 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: certified mediator. You know, it's like talking to one person 126 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,240 Speaker 1: who as a lawyer, who understands the process, and the 127 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:38,320 Speaker 1: other person on the other side is clueless. It makes 128 00:06:38,360 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: it difficult to navigate that situation, right. And so for me, 129 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 1: it was being strategic and identifying those issues that transcendent 130 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: party affiliation, that transcendent rates um. And so you know 131 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: what I found is access to justice crosses all genres, 132 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:56,080 Speaker 1: They crosses all spectrums. Everybody is walking into this courthouse 133 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: and not many are coming in this building voluntarily. Um. 134 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: You know, you know people don't sign up to come 135 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: to the courthouse, right, you're told to come to the 136 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: court house. So for me, so because of that, that 137 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:10,720 Speaker 1: transcend party affiliation, and you were you did that as 138 00:07:10,760 --> 00:07:13,240 Speaker 1: a campaign promise, but was actually able to put the 139 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: self help center, explain what they get at the self 140 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 1: help center. Then I want to go into a little 141 00:07:17,880 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: bit deeper on what you said a moment ago on 142 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,440 Speaker 1: how people really want to hear about the issues and 143 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: how that matters. But I first want to just commend 144 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,200 Speaker 1: you on that self help center. Give you a moment 145 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 1: just explain that. Thank you. So the Self Help Center, Yeah, 146 00:07:27,920 --> 00:07:30,280 Speaker 1: there's actually a study out there by the National State 147 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: Courts that sells about a five percent of citizens will 148 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: never be able to afford an attorney. You know that. 149 00:07:36,640 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: That's just that that's the reality per our fee for 150 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,720 Speaker 1: an attorney. Some divorces cost five or ten thousand just 151 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: a four retainer, then you have your case work. So 152 00:07:45,240 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: the Self Help Center in Orange County, and there are 153 00:07:47,200 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: many across the state of Florida where we it's a 154 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: self sustaining office within our courthouse. We have full time 155 00:07:53,040 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: clerks there to help with form filing. They can file 156 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 1: UM electronically through our portal. But we also partnered with 157 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: the Orange Cournity bar so Seation where they can get 158 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: attorney consultations for a dollar a minute. I mean that 159 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,040 Speaker 1: they can schedule those at fifteen minute increments UM. And 160 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: we don't tie to income, so we're different than like 161 00:08:09,240 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: the legal aids or legal services that are based on 162 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: your income. This is not tied to income. If you 163 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: need it, you can come in and schedule your appointment 164 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: to see an attorney. So that's what we do. We're there, 165 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,800 Speaker 1: we help people navigate the forms which we all know 166 00:08:21,840 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: it can be very difficult to understand the legal lease. 167 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:26,440 Speaker 1: That's kind of a lot of those complaints. And it's 168 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:28,680 Speaker 1: a open open five days a week, and we're at 169 00:08:28,720 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: the downtown courthouse, and we're not one day a week 170 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:33,520 Speaker 1: in a podca um. And so we are there just 171 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,120 Speaker 1: to help citizens navigate. You know what I'm saying. Someone's 172 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,240 Speaker 1: going through a divorce, Um, they're going through a child 173 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 1: custody type situation, child support, or they even have a 174 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 1: small claims dispute with their roofer that they were from 175 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 1: roof repairs. So um, we just try to make sure 176 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,600 Speaker 1: we can at least increase access to justice for those 177 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:51,839 Speaker 1: who can't afford an attorney. That's right. And because you 178 00:08:52,320 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: actually put out a campaign promise and actually did it, 179 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:58,319 Speaker 1: you've been reelected in this position as well. Yes I have, 180 00:08:58,800 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: Yes she has. She said that's so humble, but yes 181 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: she did it. It's based on receipts. Let's get to 182 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: talk about federal what I've learned on the lack of 183 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,079 Speaker 1: support the Democrat candidates have on the state level. You 184 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,160 Speaker 1: were one of those races that I had an opportunity 185 00:09:14,200 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: to see. You know that that was actually out there running. 186 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: You know, not to say the Democrat Party didn't help, 187 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: but bottom line is could have certainly held more. I've 188 00:09:22,040 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: seen you knock on doors again. We're talking about pregnant 189 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 1: for real, for real, not just a little pregn when 190 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: you carriage your son. We're talking about a big bag, right, 191 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: because she got a big hus for y'all. Husband's what 192 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:38,760 Speaker 1: like eight nine? How tall and look eight nine standing 193 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: next to us? Hey, I know that's like he looked 194 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 1: real tall standing next to you because you you short 195 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 1: like me. You're in the five one in in so 196 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: you had a big, big baby and in the Florida 197 00:09:55,640 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 1: heat one thing in Orlando, Florida. You must knock on doors, 198 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: you know, if hands and plus a about it right now, 199 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,199 Speaker 1: do you feel let's let's first do this because I 200 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: want to get to the knock on doors to Democrats. 201 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 1: But the first part I want to talk about you 202 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: talked about talking about the issues that matter, which is 203 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,160 Speaker 1: something that I feel has have always felt. And just 204 00:10:12,280 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: for those who are listening when they say, oh you 205 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: you chastise Democrats, you must be a Republican. Not a republican, 206 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:19,680 Speaker 1: never been a Republican. Every candidate that i've ever worked 207 00:10:19,720 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: for help assisted, has always been a Democrat. Tiffany is 208 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,319 Speaker 1: actually one UM that I have assisted with her campaign 209 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:29,520 Speaker 1: as well. So it's never been about being a Republican. 210 00:10:29,600 --> 00:10:33,720 Speaker 1: It's been about how I feel that Democrat candidates, particularly 211 00:10:33,800 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: black candidates, can be served better in pushing that line. 212 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:40,480 Speaker 1: Can you talk about, I guess, without throwing anybody under 213 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:44,360 Speaker 1: the bus, the need of the state level, how do 214 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: those do those resources ever come down from the federal 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 1: campaign level to the state level to actually on the 216 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: ground when you need pamphlets, when you need brochures, when 217 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: you need volunteers. Talk a little bit about from just 218 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: the local level of state, the countywide level on how 219 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: hard it is for you to run a campaign without 220 00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:05,199 Speaker 1: little to no assistance from the main Democrat party. So 221 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:08,320 Speaker 1: it was, I will tell you, Tyes, I didn't. I've 222 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:11,040 Speaker 1: never been one of those candidates that received the swooping 223 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: support that flies in, that just swooshes in right. Um. 224 00:11:14,520 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: And interesting, the year that I wont for clerk, I wasn't. 225 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,839 Speaker 1: The clerk's office normally runs on the presidential cycle, but 226 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: the year that I run, I was off cycle. I 227 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:27,719 Speaker 1: ran the Google nottorial cycle, and I didn't get a 228 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 1: whole lot of swooping help. Um, Yet I was the 229 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 1: only Democrat in Central Florida, one in a traditional Republican 230 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:39,319 Speaker 1: control if everybody Republicans, but that one particular seat. But 231 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 1: so it's it's disheartening because that's how I chew. How 232 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,640 Speaker 1: you build your bitch in my opinion, right, you identify 233 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,600 Speaker 1: to see those people who were able to secure their 234 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 1: win without a whole lot of help, just grab grassroots 235 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: and ground campaign. So it's it's it's and it's also 236 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: challenging to watch because my opponent in two thousand fourteen, 237 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:00,840 Speaker 1: the Republicans who hardly gave him every thing but the sun, 238 00:12:01,120 --> 00:12:03,199 Speaker 1: and it was like he was the next Marco Ribo 239 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,160 Speaker 1: to them and they were gonna do whatever they could 240 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: to ensure his victory. Um. And so when you watch 241 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,280 Speaker 1: the difference, the difference in treatment. And he was appointed 242 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:14,880 Speaker 1: just the point just to put an yeah, just to 243 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: put a point right, ensure Yeah, So our park had 244 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:20,360 Speaker 1: passed away and he was appointed by the governor and 245 00:12:20,480 --> 00:12:24,360 Speaker 1: they gave ridiculous money, dropped serious money. So when you 246 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: compare how much he got versus what I received, it 247 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,199 Speaker 1: was nicols two dollars right, um, And so it was 248 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 1: dishardening because you would think back from a strategic state 249 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,480 Speaker 1: why perspective, it would be it would be a great 250 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 1: opportunity to start building their bench. Here's a candidate we 251 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,120 Speaker 1: help here, this is a county wide race. We can 252 00:12:43,160 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: potentially leverage her next time for a state wide race. 253 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,480 Speaker 1: But that's not happening. So, I mean, it is what 254 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: it is. But I think that's how you truly build 255 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:54,040 Speaker 1: up your bit to change the dynamics of state white 256 00:12:54,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: races when you can focus on local races. Because local races, 257 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: to me, is where you find those true great candidates 258 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:02,840 Speaker 1: who hustle, who know their district, who know their community, 259 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 1: who know where the supporters are, who know whether the 260 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,920 Speaker 1: tree card player guyes are it's gonna tell the rest 261 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: of the neighborhood how to get out of the book. 262 00:13:09,760 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: That's those that's those local campus know that, and they're 263 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: ones who truely respond to citizen complaints and concerns because 264 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: they can actually catch you in the grocery store. You know, 265 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,400 Speaker 1: they can't catch you know, Senator Rubyo or you know 266 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 1: a senator you know Wi Scott. I mean, it's's just 267 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:26,520 Speaker 1: that's not reality, right, so it was challenging in fourteen 268 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,720 Speaker 1: which you didn't find out who you really are as 269 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: a candidate because I did not get a lot of 270 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: statewide help. I got some. But again, when you start 271 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: comparing the to the two parties, I will I will 272 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:38,839 Speaker 1: get credit. Where's dude that Republicans know how to take 273 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: care when they pick their person. They know how to 274 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: drop all kinds of money, um too, and when they 275 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:46,800 Speaker 1: take when they've targeted a seat or or or a 276 00:13:46,880 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: particular race, when they when it's on their radar, they 277 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: strategically going very deliberate about where they provide their support. Well, 278 00:13:53,240 --> 00:13:56,600 Speaker 1: let me give the straight shot, no chaser translation. Uh, 279 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,079 Speaker 1: bottom line, Democrats, you didn't do a damn thing to 280 00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:01,520 Speaker 1: help Tip. I need more Russell and I keep I 281 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,839 Speaker 1: really call her madam because she earned it so much. 282 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,559 Speaker 1: But she is a friend of mine, so bear with 283 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: me as I go back and forth calling her tivity 284 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: versus madam clerk. But you didn't do a damn thing 285 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 1: that you should have done to help her. She won 286 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: beat the drum off of her opponent, as she just mentioned. 287 00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: I'm just recapping what she said. The only Democrat in 288 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:21,160 Speaker 1: that offer to win county wide. So when you look 289 00:14:21,200 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: at if the support had been for your race, how 290 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: much easier would that have been for Andrew Gillium and 291 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: so on and so forth. At some point Democrats have 292 00:14:29,560 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: to get strategic and how they do and how they move. 293 00:14:32,520 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: This is why I keep telling people over and over 294 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 1: and why I wanted you on before the election that 295 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:40,480 Speaker 1: state and local elections matter. Let's look at Georgia. Now, 296 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 1: Georgia is possibly a swing state. Why because of the 297 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: on the state level, all the organizing that went into 298 00:14:47,080 --> 00:14:50,040 Speaker 1: Stacy Aram's race, right, and those other candidates that were 299 00:14:50,120 --> 00:14:52,000 Speaker 1: on the ballot. So right now, when I look at 300 00:14:52,240 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 1: Democrats on the federal level who like, let's say, for example, 301 00:14:54,760 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: they stopped all the negative ads due to Trump's Corona, well, 302 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: I hope these ballot down candidates know that they need 303 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: to see be on doors. I don't give a damn 304 00:15:01,160 --> 00:15:03,280 Speaker 1: if you're screaming from the street from the curb and 305 00:15:03,360 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you gotta throw a rock at the door to get 306 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: their attention. To scream from the curb, you better be 307 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: knocking on these doors because you do not have the 308 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,080 Speaker 1: name recognition, you do not have the money that's pouring 309 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 1: into these campaigns. You don't have the money for television ads. 310 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 1: Everything that you do is pretty much earned media. And 311 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: that is to me, really bothers metivity because we the 312 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Democrats know this, The party knows this, and time and 313 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: time again, I do not see the resources going into 314 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 1: particularly because this is a show on the Black Effect 315 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,120 Speaker 1: podcast network, particularly when we talk about our black elected officials. 316 00:15:32,160 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 1: So I thank you for speaking to that, but I 317 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: just wanted to give it to him raw and tell them, no, 318 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: bottom line, you didn't do a damn thing, and you 319 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 1: need to do more to help candids like yourself can say. 320 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: Let's give it straight. We gotta look at how we 321 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:47,680 Speaker 1: equitably contribute to all races. We got to what are 322 00:15:47,720 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: we giving the same to all candies? And I don't 323 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,280 Speaker 1: think that's always the case. It's not always the case. 324 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:55,240 Speaker 1: When we look at and I'm talking about Democrats, we 325 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: can see how they contribute and how they treat oh 326 00:15:58,520 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 1: there's versus those black carries, and it's not to the 327 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 1: same level, to the same degree. That's right, because you 328 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: know why most of the seats that we sit in. 329 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:10,200 Speaker 1: But see, they couldn't just depend on that with you, 330 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:12,520 Speaker 1: They needed to step up. I just want to reiterate 331 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: again that a very popular clerk of court passed away 332 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: a Republican. A Republican was in the seat, y'all, Just 333 00:16:19,440 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: so y'all understand just how cold this woman is. A 334 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 1: Republican was appointed by the governor to sit with there 335 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: actually was a clerk of court at that time. He was. 336 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: He was everything that you would say in a book 337 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,960 Speaker 1: that he would need to be. Handsome, hispanic, riding bikes, 338 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: you know, environmental, he was the whole nine. And he 339 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,480 Speaker 1: was single. He was single. Yeah, honey, he had it all. 340 00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: He had it all. So when and then you look 341 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,040 Speaker 1: at you coming from being actually elected before they could 342 00:16:46,080 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 1: dig up little things on you to say why I 343 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: didn't like when you did X y Z or I 344 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: didn't like what He was pretty much clean cross the 345 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: orcause he had never served in anything. And he did 346 00:16:53,720 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: do some diversity, uh you know, did some diversity hires 347 00:16:56,640 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: within within that position. And because of Tiffany's ground down, 348 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean coming in and knock it on doors and 349 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: doing what you do best, she was able to take 350 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: him out that seat. Let's get to the second part 351 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 1: of things that I wanted to talk about right now. 352 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,760 Speaker 1: In the state of Florida, felons had an opportunity. They 353 00:17:19,800 --> 00:17:23,640 Speaker 1: were granted the right to vote. Their rights were restored. However, 354 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: they gave them the right to vote, but then they 355 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: pretty much took it back, if you will, by saying that, hey, 356 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: you know, there's some fines that need to be paid 357 00:17:32,200 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 1: in order for you to move forward with voting. Obviously, 358 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: they didn't take the right back that, you know what 359 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. They came in on the back end, and 360 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, pull some play some games with saying that 361 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: those fines need to be paid. One of the issues 362 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 1: is one, how do people know how much they owe 363 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 1: to do they know if they even owing three can 364 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: they afford it? Can you speak to right now what's 365 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: going on in the state of Florida at least the 366 00:17:51,840 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: latest update on how felons and the right to vote 367 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,640 Speaker 1: in that situation down there with as you always talk 368 00:17:57,680 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 1: about this, and then we have to make sure we're 369 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:01,159 Speaker 1: informed voting. When that amendment was out and I was 370 00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,399 Speaker 1: a support of it as an individual, we have to 371 00:18:03,400 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: be very careful when people use the term once they 372 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:08,440 Speaker 1: complete their sentence. And we heard that and I think 373 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: we as a community saying, oh, they've served their time. 374 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:14,119 Speaker 1: Time and sentence are two different things, right, and so 375 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,040 Speaker 1: even before the Amendment four, you had to complete your 376 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:19,920 Speaker 1: entire sentence to even get clemency or to go before 377 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: the the board, the governor all those time of the situations. 378 00:18:23,320 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: So what's happening right now in Florida is that you 379 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,560 Speaker 1: have to pay off your fines and fees if you 380 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,120 Speaker 1: fall fall within one of those qualifications to be directly 381 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: get your rights back, right, and so they can visit 382 00:18:34,600 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: their local clerk wherever they was convicted. Okay, so let's 383 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:39,680 Speaker 1: say they were convicted in Orange County, they come to 384 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 1: my office, we can tell them what they own and 385 00:18:42,080 --> 00:18:43,560 Speaker 1: and it was clear as that it has to be 386 00:18:43,640 --> 00:18:46,040 Speaker 1: what was old on the sentencing document. So you know, 387 00:18:46,200 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: late fees cannot keep you any collection fees that's not 388 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,680 Speaker 1: on the citienzing documents. So as long as they pay 389 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: the four corners of the sentencing document, they can. Once 390 00:18:55,080 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 1: they pay that and the supervisor elections come back and 391 00:18:58,040 --> 00:19:00,719 Speaker 1: checks with us whether it was paid, we don't certify them. 392 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: We just tell the surprised elections in the zero balance 393 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:06,359 Speaker 1: or what was over And that's what's been happening I 394 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 1: know here. You know the Florida Restorations Rights Coalition has 395 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: been paying supporting people and I know several clerks throughout 396 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:15,119 Speaker 1: the state of Florida have been working with Desn't Needing organization. 397 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 1: Our challenge and our goal has always been to make 398 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: sure it's accurate and we can get that information to 399 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:23,240 Speaker 1: Desmond and his group to quickly help people see what's 400 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,239 Speaker 1: old and how to get it resolved. That's what our 401 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: role has been to making sure we can provide accurate 402 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,720 Speaker 1: data um and what their updated record. Yeah, because the 403 00:19:30,760 --> 00:19:33,199 Speaker 1: bottom line is though even though and I know your role, 404 00:19:33,280 --> 00:19:34,680 Speaker 1: but a lot of these folks don't have the money 405 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: to pay the feed. That's just the bottom line. So 406 00:19:37,480 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: basically what that says what they should have simultaneous strategy 407 00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 1: was because you made a point to say can they 408 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 1: afford it? Right? And we can go back and forth, 409 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:48,639 Speaker 1: and some people have coming back to the time. You 410 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 1: know what I'm going at these drug defences, that level 411 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:54,920 Speaker 1: of fines on them, right, they're never gonna pay that 412 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: at all, So it's pretty we pretty much made it impossible. 413 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 1: There should have been some sign of taneous legislation that 414 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: had some forgiveness language. If you've been out ten plus years, 415 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,879 Speaker 1: just like regular debt. It's forgiven after so much time, 416 00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:11,800 Speaker 1: right because if you know from a collection's perspection from clerks, 417 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,080 Speaker 1: we're not gonna collect on it anyway. Our collectorate for 418 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,080 Speaker 1: criminal cases is thirty percent. So I just wish that 419 00:20:19,160 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 1: there would have been some simultaneous legislation addressing the ability 420 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 1: to pay portion. And so we still need to move 421 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: forward with that so that the listen don't like. In 422 00:20:29,600 --> 00:20:32,680 Speaker 1: my opinion, if Desnel wants to ask me, there should 423 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: be some legislative TEA should have a lobbying team prepared 424 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: to start drafting some subsequent legislation dealing with the ability 425 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,359 Speaker 1: to pay um, the age of the infraction or the 426 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 1: age of the debt. And you know, do we hold 427 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: onto something that thirty years old? Right? Um? I just 428 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: think it's worthy to explore. And I hope Densbel does 429 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: as you we you know, we all know Desert me 430 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: for those who don't know, he's a Florida restorate restoration organization, 431 00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: and so I hope he does as you or ask somebody, 432 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:00,720 Speaker 1: because what we cannot do is get people excited about 433 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 1: voting and then come back and say, oh, never mind. 434 00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,359 Speaker 1: You know, if we gotta do something else, because now 435 00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: he admits when he drafted it, he he said after 436 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: they met their all their sentencing requirements, he that he's 437 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:14,960 Speaker 1: the drafter. So he admits that it was to be 438 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: restored upon completion of your sentence. The problem that people 439 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,879 Speaker 1: got was the sentence also includes fine and not just 440 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:27,520 Speaker 1: your being confined into a jail. You know, sentences more 441 00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 1: than just time. It's also a community service when you 442 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: get our probation and find and and I think that's 443 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 1: but you know, you know, it's it's hard product In 444 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:39,680 Speaker 1: the commercial that don't sound sexy, Oh you gotta you know, 445 00:21:40,119 --> 00:21:42,160 Speaker 1: it was giving their rights back and let my people vote. 446 00:21:42,160 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: They use slogans, which is fine, but there were some 447 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: there were some other ands and commas that we that. 448 00:21:49,119 --> 00:21:52,360 Speaker 1: Unfortunately now it looked like it was some trickery going yeah, 449 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: well it's not fine because what's the point. And if 450 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 1: we're getting people all excited. I went through this with 451 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: somebody last week, like, I love if if you got 452 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: a hot video out there is something that's getting people engaged, 453 00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,680 Speaker 1: that's great, but the information the video actually needs to 454 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: be accurate because if not, because if not, we're starting 455 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: all over again. And it and it further depresses the vote. 456 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,680 Speaker 1: We're not talking. We already have to deal with voter suppression. 457 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:15,119 Speaker 1: So one of the tactics that they're doing is voter suppression. 458 00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: But the voter depression part is the part that we're 459 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: in charge of, because now we don't want to people 460 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: to lose trust in us. That's correct, that's correct. And 461 00:22:22,480 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: so now they're saying, well, forget it. If I I 462 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: did all of this, I went and voted, I said 463 00:22:26,840 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: I want to rights back. I did all of this, 464 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: and it still didn't work. That's the voter depression part 465 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,639 Speaker 1: that we're in control of the messaging. We're in control 466 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: how information gets out, and and it's important to have 467 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:38,720 Speaker 1: those commas and ads and so forth in order to 468 00:22:38,920 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 1: have a conversation around if you still a restitution, it's 469 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,320 Speaker 1: still apply to you. You gotta pay, you gotta pay 470 00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: your victims back, right right, you gotta have those conversations 471 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,040 Speaker 1: and and that didn't happen. But as I think that's 472 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: it's still opportunities. There are still more work to do, 473 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: and it's it's overall criminal justice reform. I don't know 474 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,200 Speaker 1: the latest update on Bloomberg. When I know he dropped 475 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:00,040 Speaker 1: some money to pay for some fees. And now the 476 00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:02,920 Speaker 1: Republicans that said, no, sorry, you can't. You can't do that. 477 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,879 Speaker 1: So I don't know what the court will say about that. 478 00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,800 Speaker 1: There's nothing that prohibits me if I want to help 479 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: my friend out, help pay her five Is it only 480 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 1: because it's Bloomberg money? You know, it's always the person 481 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: who's receiving it is okay with it. You know, once again, 482 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter, we're trying to figure out twenty 483 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: seconds before the shot clock. We're trying to figure out strategy. 484 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:23,640 Speaker 1: Democrats gotta get this ship together. Dry Clarks don't took 485 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:26,199 Speaker 1: the whatever. We don't took some money. You know, if 486 00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: they gave us some cases, we took the money we 487 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:33,000 Speaker 1: applied to those cases and we don't don't. So and 488 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: before I let you go, I want to talk a 489 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: little bit about why these judicial racist matter. You know, 490 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: when we see Attorney General Daniel Cameron and people not 491 00:23:40,680 --> 00:23:43,000 Speaker 1: realizing that's an elected the seat. And on top of 492 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,120 Speaker 1: that that, people they see Kentucky and the automatic think Republican, 493 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:47,960 Speaker 1: which is not the case. That is a Democrat rand 494 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: state as a Democrat governor. No Republican held that seat 495 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,919 Speaker 1: since nineteen forty four. Timmy Moore Russell is also an 496 00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 1: attorney as well, And I want you to talk about 497 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 1: the importance of the judicial that really is to the 498 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: heart of this episode. What does the courts have to 499 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:05,480 Speaker 1: do with it and how the Trump administration has changed 500 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 1: our judicial makeup? What does that matter to the person 501 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 1: on the street that has to go to court and 502 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,640 Speaker 1: you know, whether it's filing a lawsuit or whether whether 503 00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: it's a criminal charge. How does it really matter? Since 504 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: Democrats are failing on talking about how it affects you 505 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: on the ground, talk a little bit about why the 506 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:25,160 Speaker 1: judicial system matters in this coming up election. So judicial 507 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: system matters this election and all elections because judges can 508 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:32,440 Speaker 1: literally sit on the bench for twenty thirty years. And 509 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: diversity in our judiciary is extremely important because you want 510 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,040 Speaker 1: people who come with different experiences to understand the person 511 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: they're about to convict. Right, And so we're talking about 512 00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:46,959 Speaker 1: people who make decisions about whether you convict a fourteen 513 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,920 Speaker 1: year because he stole some bubble go right, We're talking 514 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: about the case where the judge sent the little girl 515 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:54,719 Speaker 1: to jail because she didn't do a homework. I mean 516 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,879 Speaker 1: these are decisions that could change the fabric of a 517 00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: young person's life. Right, so we're talking about the person 518 00:25:01,800 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 1: who's gonna make decisions about divorce and who gets custody 519 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 1: and who how much to support is paid. If you 520 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: have a judge who's biased or have implicit biased towards 521 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:11,560 Speaker 1: a certain type of people, they're gonna rule in a 522 00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,639 Speaker 1: certain way because I don't care anyone says. They bring 523 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:17,520 Speaker 1: their experience, They bring their history, their exposure into the 524 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040 Speaker 1: corporal and whether we like it or not, we pre 525 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 1: judge people. We we we already come in with a 526 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:25,760 Speaker 1: certain position or thought about looking at that person across 527 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:27,800 Speaker 1: from us, and that's how we're going to approach it. 528 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: And you know, and so having a judge have a 529 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: different background and bring a different experience, we have some 530 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:36,359 Speaker 1: level of mercy and grace now as they rule. Now 531 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,360 Speaker 1: they preside because they have they can understand the background 532 00:25:39,400 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 1: of a person when they explain why they did certain things. 533 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:46,600 Speaker 1: And so what is Elections have consequences because when you 534 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,159 Speaker 1: have to realize who's appointing. So in Florida, you can 535 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:50,960 Speaker 1: get elected or you can get appointed to become a 536 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: state judge in Florida. But if you look at right now, 537 00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:00,200 Speaker 1: our governor, he has had we had one person be 538 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,520 Speaker 1: elected to the Federal court. Get point to the federal courts. 539 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: So he's already made two appointments to the Florida Supreme Court. 540 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 1: And they can run every six years until they hit seventy. 541 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: That's a long time. And he's recent. He's very strategic. 542 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: He's been appointing forty year old so you do the 543 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: mad they can sit on the bench for thirty plus years. 544 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,040 Speaker 1: And what's gonna happen in Florida is Florida's been getting 545 00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:25,600 Speaker 1: some promotions, right, So you start in the circuit state 546 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 1: courts and you get to the district court, those people 547 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 1: are getting promoted. If you look and see who's been 548 00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: getting deported to the left, they come out of Florida. 549 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: So what they're doing is they're building their bench, right, 550 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 1: they're building their bench within the court system. Because the 551 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:41,040 Speaker 1: Supreme Court to the Federal Supreme Court are gonna rule 552 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 1: on various things from firm reaction, you know, to abortion 553 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 1: to the election. We know Flor's gonna have a fight 554 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,160 Speaker 1: come decemble January. Who you think Sintala has is gonna 555 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 1: decide the decision of the election. That's what happened with 556 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:58,879 Speaker 1: Gore versus Bush, you know. And so you want to 557 00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 1: you want to have a diverse court. You want to 558 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,000 Speaker 1: see so we have we have to stop building our 559 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: bench on the county and the circuit, and then we 560 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: have to also pay attention to the district courts in 561 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the full Supreme Court when they have to be retained 562 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: every six years. Right right now, we have a couple 563 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: on our ballot that we should we retain them. We 564 00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: have to pay attention to how they rule, their temperament, 565 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 1: how they treat people. You know, we actually had a 566 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: race here, um and in our circuit where lawyers was 567 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: coming out the woodworks trying to unsee a sitting judge 568 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,680 Speaker 1: of because how he treated people, you know. And so 569 00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:33,119 Speaker 1: it's even your decorum and how you treat lawyers and 570 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 1: people in your court room. Do you treat them with 571 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: respect or lack of respect? All of those things played 572 00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:42,320 Speaker 1: paid play a huge partner in the bitch because the 573 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: bench justice is supposed to be blind, but it's not. 574 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 1: But it's not because we're human, right And when you 575 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: appoint um a bit that they all looked the same, 576 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: they all had the same background the same education, the 577 00:27:56,320 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 1: same experience you that's when you get what you get. 578 00:27:59,080 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: This was so powerful. This is why I wanted you 579 00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:02,959 Speaker 1: on here. If you don't vote for ship else, everybody 580 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,360 Speaker 1: who's listening, pay attention to those judicial seats because it's 581 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,400 Speaker 1: not just a matter of abortion and not abortion, I'm 582 00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: talking about people in the hood right now that got 583 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,840 Speaker 1: cases that they have to go before. When we're talking 584 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: about small case misdemeanors. Whatever your local judge matters. And 585 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: I'm so glad you point on that because I think 586 00:28:21,320 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: we do think some people think, well, a judge can't 587 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: go outside the law. You know, it's only gonna allow 588 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 1: you to do so many different things. But you pointed 589 00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,480 Speaker 1: out that, no, it does matter how they look at it, 590 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 1: how they perceive, and how they perceive the person's background. 591 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,640 Speaker 1: You know, you have maxim you have maximum sentencing guidelines, 592 00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: but you have a range. Yeah, So if you have 593 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,560 Speaker 1: a hard nosed judge, everybody is guilty. He don't get 594 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,040 Speaker 1: a max. He gonna throw the book at you. Versus 595 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: a judge who has compassion and mercy may maybe look 596 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: at some some you know, the circumstances that led you 597 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 1: to that. They may give you the minimal you know 598 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: you have minimumum maximum ranges. When it comes to sentencing. 599 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:56,720 Speaker 1: You don't have to get twenty years, you know, it's 600 00:28:56,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 1: five the ten, and so the type of judge can 601 00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 1: determine I'm gonna get us for us a second chance. 602 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm on, I'm giving five and put them on pro 603 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:05,200 Speaker 1: date probation, or I'm gonna send this six t year 604 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,040 Speaker 1: old to community service. And I'm not gonna put them 605 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: away right now because once we start out already at 606 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,680 Speaker 1: six team, their destined to continue because we don't we 607 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: know the study, we know the statistics, you know the 608 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: history right or you've talked about we just talk about 609 00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: fives and things. If you have a judge that cares, 610 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,120 Speaker 1: we do a lot of events from Central Florida called 611 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, with the organization called he Got Up, Well, 612 00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: does this judge allow you to convert your fire to 613 00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: community service because he cared because you know you can't 614 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 1: afford it. That would makes a difference. Do you think 615 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 1: Democrats are doing enough to to educate people don't understand 616 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: on the issues that really matter, Like we get it, 617 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: get Trump out, get Trump out. We got it. If 618 00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 1: we we don't have nothing else from this election. We 619 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: know that, but imagine if people really understood what you 620 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:54,400 Speaker 1: just said. Do you think that the federal level Democrats operatives, 621 00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,800 Speaker 1: if you will people to run the campaigns, and even 622 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:58,720 Speaker 1: on the state level, do you think they're doing enough 623 00:29:58,840 --> 00:30:00,720 Speaker 1: to speak to the issue is that really matter? You 624 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: mentioned at the beginning of the show that you really 625 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,400 Speaker 1: talk about issues that matter to everybody across all all 626 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:07,680 Speaker 1: spectrums in your seat. But do you think that they 627 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,440 Speaker 1: do enough voter education or do you think it's more 628 00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 1: get to the post, get to the post, get to 629 00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: the post, demanding a voter show up for them, but 630 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: them not really showing up for the voter. So I 631 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:19,320 Speaker 1: don't think they do enough on education. And I'm I'm 632 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 1: gonna give credit where credits do? I remember? I went 633 00:30:21,040 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: to the Biou classes years ago and the legislay, the 634 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: Black Caucus, and Louisiana has this breakfast during the Baliou 635 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 1: Classic and al Shockton was the speaker years ago. I 636 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,400 Speaker 1: wasn't an elected official. He made this coming. He said, 637 00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,040 Speaker 1: you know, the Democratic Party treat us like the side check, 638 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: like like a mistress. You know, they they they they'll 639 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 1: they'll come see us sometime. They won't take us home 640 00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:42,400 Speaker 1: to Mama, they won't put a ring on, they won't 641 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 1: marry us. And I always kind of that that resonated 642 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: with me because it was like, I'm gonna just give 643 00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,920 Speaker 1: you just enough. I'm not gonna spend the time necessary 644 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:52,320 Speaker 1: to date you, to spend time with you throughout the 645 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: four years, and not just talk to you when it's 646 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 1: time to get your vote. Right. So I want to 647 00:30:56,640 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 1: be too graphic, but you know the side really call 648 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 1: you admitting we want something and then leave you on 649 00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,440 Speaker 1: the website, leaveing on the West spot. I don't get 650 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: graphics nowhere. I got your back, they got don't thank 651 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: you to Sunday dinner with with with mother with mother 652 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: joys at the first Sunday service, right. And So I 653 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: don't think enough is done to educate us after the election. 654 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:19,560 Speaker 1: And I don't think we're as strategic when we break 655 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:21,959 Speaker 1: down the campaigns that we focus on, and I think 656 00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:24,040 Speaker 1: we kind of play this whole to judiciary. We can't 657 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 1: talk politics, but there's other things we can talk about 658 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: when it comes to the judiciary. And so I don't 659 00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:29,920 Speaker 1: and I don't think we do enough when it comes 660 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: to those candidates. It ends up you have to find 661 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,200 Speaker 1: out individually who's doing what and what's seed and you know, 662 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: if that person has enough money to talk about their 663 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 1: campaign without saying how they would judge or rule. Right, 664 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,040 Speaker 1: So I think we kind of we I think in 665 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: Florida we play their hands off on the judicial role 666 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,880 Speaker 1: because it's so it's not political, but but it's then 667 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:51,719 Speaker 1: it's about the person and their position and how they 668 00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: see the human side of those when they preside. So 669 00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:57,960 Speaker 1: I think there's more that could be done. Um, after 670 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: the election is over, right after you've got vote, not 671 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,720 Speaker 1: come spence. So you gotta date me, you gotta court me, 672 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 1: you gotta spend some time with me, not just come 673 00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: see me when you need me. And I don't think 674 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: enough of that is done between election cycles, right, So, 675 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,040 Speaker 1: like after November Jay d one should be what are 676 00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:17,120 Speaker 1: we doing to get ready for? Absolutely, And that's what 677 00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,840 Speaker 1: I've been pushing with everybody that I know. November three 678 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: sounds good, but what about November four? Remember fourth, they 679 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: can take a break. They gonna get a little massage, 680 00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: you know, have a little glass of wine, you know, 681 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:30,640 Speaker 1: and jail your Thanksgiving and your Christmas. But use that 682 00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 1: little break to strategize, come with a plan, and January one, 683 00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,680 Speaker 1: after you celebrate the new year, you should be preparing 684 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: for twenty two. That's for Florida. We got all our 685 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 1: state wide cabinet races up. If you're not happy what 686 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,880 Speaker 1: they saying, this, what's the plan? Who's running? Who? Who? 687 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: Who are we preparing to start working the state now 688 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,800 Speaker 1: in twenty one not twenty two. Twenty one, you know, 689 00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:56,600 Speaker 1: and the other races, the other constitutional cabinet seats that 690 00:32:56,840 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: you know, all the places apart. Because when you talk 691 00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: about elections have ansequences, let's talk about what happened in Florida. 692 00:33:02,200 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 1: We had a As soon as the unemployment situation happened, 693 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,280 Speaker 1: our system crash. But who do you think. We're in 694 00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:09,680 Speaker 1: the state department. They are pointed by the governor and 695 00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 1: let yourself consequences, because that's a point. Every state agency had, 696 00:33:14,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 1: the health department heads. All these heads are appointed by 697 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: your those folks you elected in the governing the president's office. 698 00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: And so people just think, okay, well now y'all, what 699 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 1: why you can't get you undeployment checked? Okay that because 700 00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,400 Speaker 1: elections have consequences, that's right, Well, candidates, you can take 701 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: a break, but those of us on the mic, on 702 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,920 Speaker 1: the media, the job starts today after the election. We 703 00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 1: don't have time for you to be waiting on Thanksgiving. 704 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 1: We already five years behind. We gotta match the gas 705 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: and keep it moving because if we don't build off 706 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 1: this momentum and how everybody's gonna feel the day after 707 00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: which we know, it's gonna be a hot mess. So 708 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: let's just call it what it is. Trump is not 709 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: going to just let this go lightly. Republicans play like gangsters, 710 00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 1: that's the bottom line. They're listened into tupocket. We overlistened 711 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: in the R and B baby Face two totally different, 712 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:58,240 Speaker 1: you know, the way we move, So we have to 713 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,520 Speaker 1: really really get your teaching. There's something as I'm working 714 00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:03,400 Speaker 1: on that i'm excited about that hopefully will come forward, 715 00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: you know, with organizing us and organizing us stronger as 716 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: a union, and certainly shout out a shout out to 717 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: our Black Party. I've been having an opportunity to have 718 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,760 Speaker 1: a lot of conversations with them and how they're moving forward. 719 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: So I want to thank you, madam for joining me today. 720 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: I know this type of content, it's not always you know, 721 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,320 Speaker 1: the popular thing that people want to hear. But it 722 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: is so necessary to talk about the course, to talk 723 00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,480 Speaker 1: about the judicial system, to talk about how to fext 724 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 1: you on your daily life, plus to honor you and 725 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 1: all of the wonderful things that you have done. I 726 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: am so proud of you, mother, freeing mentor a k 727 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:40,000 Speaker 1: A leader in the community ground pound. From the moment 728 00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:42,880 Speaker 1: you've taken seat, you have worked every single election. You 729 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 1: have had every opposition against you, and you have been 730 00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 1: able to not only just survive and thrive, and more importantly, 731 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,880 Speaker 1: you have kept your campaign promises. And let me tell 732 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: you test before you get us concluded, I want you 733 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: to go check out my page. You'd be proud of me. Yes, 734 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: because I don't have I was a part of pose 735 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: this cycle, and so I'll push this a thing called voting. 736 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: His queen in Central Florida. So I'm not waiting for 737 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: the party to come give me some directors. So we 738 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: have it. I pulled together my Latina elected officials, my Patty, 739 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,160 Speaker 1: she had Linda Steward, women of color, the first ladies. 740 00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:15,440 Speaker 1: We're trying to do this huge early voting initiative here 741 00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 1: on October it's twenty four. I want you to share 742 00:35:18,120 --> 00:35:19,680 Speaker 1: it when you see our post. The flies we are. 743 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: We first launched the Queen's last week. It's called Vote 744 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:25,920 Speaker 1: Cast the Vote Crown to Queen. You know, we know who, 745 00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:27,719 Speaker 1: we know who runs the world, and we know who 746 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,600 Speaker 1: truly gets out that vote. I mean, we're not waiting 747 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,759 Speaker 1: to not have anything, you know. And it's gonna be 748 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:34,839 Speaker 1: an early voting site. So Commissioner Hell is on board 749 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:36,719 Speaker 1: as well. So we're trying to do our thing in 750 00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: central Florida and trying to get everybody together because this 751 00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 1: election is what it's gonna take. And I was like you, 752 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 1: since I don't have my own election, I can get 753 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: some good trouble. Use that strategizing to help, you know, 754 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,600 Speaker 1: And I'm not helping any campaign. I want to make 755 00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: you the people vote. We have some amendments on the 756 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:54,920 Speaker 1: ballot that needs to be we got to pay attention 757 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,680 Speaker 1: to as well in Florida. And so you know, when 758 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,200 Speaker 1: you see me post, I'm a tag you so you 759 00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: can see what we're trying to do here, just to 760 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: really just trying to get like you said, our people 761 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:05,240 Speaker 1: will energy. We got they gotta they want to feel 762 00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:08,120 Speaker 1: like something's happening. We are as black people we like 763 00:36:08,239 --> 00:36:10,640 Speaker 1: to feel people of color like to feel our brown 764 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 1: black sisters want to feel like something's going on, and 765 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: so we this is what we're trying to do that weekend. 766 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:17,480 Speaker 1: To truly, it's called the Central for the vote Fest 767 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 1: because so to the Post is that Sunday, and we're 768 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: voting His queen is that Saturday. So we're trying to 769 00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:25,480 Speaker 1: make it a big deal to get that vote out. Yeah, 770 00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,200 Speaker 1: please let me know anything I can do, because that's 771 00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,239 Speaker 1: really what it comes down to. Like I always say, 772 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,560 Speaker 1: we all we got we can't wait on the state 773 00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:33,720 Speaker 1: level of federal level. We gotta push the line ourselves. 774 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 1: And that's what all of us, I think, have been 775 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 1: doing in our own way. I wish there was more 776 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: of a strategic effort from the top, but we can't 777 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,680 Speaker 1: allow that to to allow us to stop so that rhyme, 778 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,759 Speaker 1: you know, but this community know us. They need to 779 00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: hear from us anyway. You know, I've never been a 780 00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,320 Speaker 1: proponent of bringing a visitor and tell us how to 781 00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,320 Speaker 1: go vote, right, that's another thing that y'all do. We 782 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 1: can get to that. We can have a whole show 783 00:36:53,719 --> 00:36:55,960 Speaker 1: on that. Y'all love bringing in outside and selfist it 784 00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 1: on ship about Orlando. But I'll leave that right there. 785 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,719 Speaker 1: I won't get too messy on that. But you they 786 00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:03,800 Speaker 1: really do they to have people to understand the community. 787 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: So no, yeah, thank you. Is there anything else that 788 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: you that we should know about in addition to that? Oh? 789 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,680 Speaker 1: That That's what I'm really been pushing as well as UM. 790 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 1: We have an organized phone banking campaign with the Divine Nine. 791 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,640 Speaker 1: Actually they started they were training last week. We kick 792 00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: off today, UM, and so we're just trying to do 793 00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:21,280 Speaker 1: some some you know, because I recognize that the pandemic 794 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,600 Speaker 1: is serious for people, and so UM, you know you do. 795 00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,920 Speaker 1: You don't want knock on the doors, but you can 796 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,799 Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call people. We are trying 797 00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,839 Speaker 1: to meet those volunteers where they're comfortable. And I'm trying 798 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:33,839 Speaker 1: to be risk because I called this one gentleman. He said, man, 799 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,120 Speaker 1: may coming to your event. You're got to the corolla 800 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:39,359 Speaker 1: out there. It's long as you gonna vote? What's your playing? Baby? 801 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:40,840 Speaker 1: What's you how are you gonna vote? You go? You know? 802 00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: He could you earn the voting site? You know, make 803 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: you take a pin when you're gonna goot early? Because 804 00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: they they don't have pens anymore, you know, so just 805 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:49,839 Speaker 1: trying to get people tips. So we're doing the whole 806 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,040 Speaker 1: phone banking campaign strategy with the Divine Nine organizations as 807 00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: the Black Fraternities, as the Royalties. We're not a cult 808 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,920 Speaker 1: and some people thought we were. You know that we 809 00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:02,000 Speaker 1: actually legitimate organizations for a hundred plus years. But the 810 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,920 Speaker 1: local Orange County chapters are working together to get out 811 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,839 Speaker 1: and we all have assignment precincts and they're gonna work 812 00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: their precincts and making sure those precincts get out on 813 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,480 Speaker 1: an increase their voting participation. Well, it makes a difference. 814 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: You know, I don't have a problem with the virtual 815 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:18,480 Speaker 1: stuff if they're investing resources and people that actually can 816 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,360 Speaker 1: call people that they know me getting random text I 817 00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:23,279 Speaker 1: just got a text. I get Texas two or three 818 00:38:23,320 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: times a day from Florida. I haven't voted in Florida 819 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 1: since two thousand fourteen. So the bottom line is you're 820 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:31,120 Speaker 1: they're not reaching the right folks. You're spending resources these 821 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:33,319 Speaker 1: text messages for those who don't know they cost, there's 822 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:35,759 Speaker 1: a cost involved with each text message that they send 823 00:38:35,800 --> 00:38:38,400 Speaker 1: out these mass texas. So you're only gonna capture so 824 00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:40,960 Speaker 1: many people. So at some point the resources had to 825 00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: be spent in the community. And I just asked them 826 00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 1: to get free spots at our at our barbershops and 827 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,080 Speaker 1: are daycassing. Can we put a spot here for free? 828 00:38:48,239 --> 00:38:50,880 Speaker 1: No invest in these communities so that if there is 829 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:53,240 Speaker 1: gonna be phone banking, they need to be calling their cousins, 830 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:55,320 Speaker 1: their mama's that whoever. The people that they actually know 831 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,399 Speaker 1: in the community said, hey, this isctivity. Are you getting out, 832 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,320 Speaker 1: you know, going to the post and that's what we 833 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 1: don't see on the local estate level. Yeah. No, we 834 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,000 Speaker 1: were like, I need you train to know how to 835 00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:06,279 Speaker 1: work the system, how to make your phone calls, you 836 00:39:06,440 --> 00:39:07,719 Speaker 1: want to use your phone, and tell you how to 837 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: create a Google account, you know. But this is for 838 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: people athlete. So the thing is take care of your 839 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 1: your circle first. Once you're taking care of your circle, 840 00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,040 Speaker 1: you know, mama, name, grandma, name, shawing them, then we 841 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:19,880 Speaker 1: want you to start working on this precinct. And we 842 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 1: gave each pre chapter of the precinct they they normally adopt. 843 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: And I want you to say, I'm called on Happen 844 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:27,160 Speaker 1: delt to Sigma Data. This is Tasha, and you know 845 00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 1: we work your precincts. Every year I've seen you come vote. 846 00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: We want to make sure it's your whole household voting. 847 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,160 Speaker 1: So that's what we're trying to do. And we each 848 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 1: organization is going to get care because that's the precinct 849 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,360 Speaker 1: they've been adopting for years. So you gotta make it. 850 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: You gotta make it ownership for them, right, yeah, making 851 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,960 Speaker 1: them care not just something absolutely well. I hope Democrats 852 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:47,400 Speaker 1: are listening. It's not like we haven't been telling this repeatedly. 853 00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:49,920 Speaker 1: That's where the frustration is. They've been told this repeatedly. 854 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: So I said, I suggest they take heed and if not, hey, 855 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,680 Speaker 1: we'll keep doing we can do on the state and 856 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: local level. We're gonna take care of our precincts first, 857 00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:57,520 Speaker 1: that's right. We all we gotta the end of the 858 00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,399 Speaker 1: day vote for us. If you don't do nothing else, 859 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:01,680 Speaker 1: I don't give a am. If Biden don't excite you enough, 860 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,279 Speaker 1: that's fine. But I know that if you or your 861 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,800 Speaker 1: cousin or anybody else has ever had to stand in 862 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,319 Speaker 1: anybody's courthouse to pay a fee or fine to get 863 00:40:09,360 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: a sentence, you better damn we'll pay attention to those 864 00:40:11,800 --> 00:40:13,799 Speaker 1: judicial races. If you don't pay attention to nothing else. 865 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 1: And that's why I wanted you on this show today. 866 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: I love you, Florida loves you, Orlando loves you. Well. 867 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: Thank you. Where can people find you, Madam Clerk so 868 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: they can find me for my professional side, my website 869 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,400 Speaker 1: is my orange clerk dot com if they want to 870 00:40:27,480 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 1: find me there, or Tiffany for Clark at gmail dot com, 871 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: my can't pay website, Tiffically for Kirk dot com. Check 872 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:36,239 Speaker 1: it out, guys, look at an example of a beautiful 873 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:40,959 Speaker 1: black family that has always again, your your your husband 874 00:40:41,040 --> 00:40:44,560 Speaker 1: is a principal correct assistant, your sister prisiper, He's an education. 875 00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,160 Speaker 1: We could have a whole show about that. But if 876 00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,640 Speaker 1: you guys are in love with the idea of Obama 877 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,080 Speaker 1: and Michelle and you really have those people right in 878 00:40:52,160 --> 00:40:54,279 Speaker 1: your own community that you can identify with, that you 879 00:40:54,360 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: can connect with, that is pouring into our community. Husband's 880 00:40:57,200 --> 00:41:02,200 Speaker 1: a capital correct. Check out, Madam Tiffany Moore Russell again, 881 00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 1: someone I've always looked up to, certainly mentor friend political 882 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:08,960 Speaker 1: somebody who really really hasn't getting in And Tiffany, thank 883 00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 1: you so much for your support over the years, and 884 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,680 Speaker 1: that means something to me, thank you for joining us 885 00:41:12,719 --> 00:41:15,759 Speaker 1: on the show. For those of you who I love this, 886 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:18,920 Speaker 1: please share it. Please let someone know how important the 887 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,840 Speaker 1: judicial races are. We want to give you all of 888 00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: the information on straight Shot No Chase to a Tesla Figure, 889 00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,600 Speaker 1: oh so that you are informed and you are educated 890 00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:29,800 Speaker 1: and you know what you need to do in this 891 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: upcoming election. We want to encourage you all to go 892 00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:36,200 Speaker 1: to the polls again, whether it's Biden Trump, wouldever go 893 00:41:36,320 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: to the polls? Whatever motivation and if nothing else, let 894 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:40,880 Speaker 1: your community motivate you. 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