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Speaker 1: This this One Bills Live, presented by Calida Health.

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Speaker 2: All Right, welcome into a Monday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 2: Chris Brown Steve Jasker with you on the heels of

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Speaker 2: a let's just say performance, I think we'd all like

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Speaker 2: to forget less than stellar. The second preseason game against

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Speaker 2: the Bears in Chicago last night did not go well

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Speaker 2: at all, the final thirty eight to nothing. And I

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Speaker 2: would imagine a lot of people bailed, But long before

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Speaker 2: the game was.

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Speaker 3: I didn't bail. I watched all of the and I'll

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Speaker 3: say this too, man, I could I felt that game,

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Speaker 3: you know, to my core. It was so familiar to me.

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Speaker 3: During the time that I played here, we had some

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Speaker 3: really good teams and a lot of everybody knows, and

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Speaker 3: we used to get our heads handed to us in

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Speaker 3: the preseason. And I remember being openly frustrated that we

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Speaker 3: were forced to play, you know, beginner football in these

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Speaker 3: preseason games, because the coaches wanted to evaluate what a

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Speaker 3: guy could do when he really knew what he was doing.

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Speaker 3: And he had got a lot of guys who were

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Speaker 3: playing plays and positions that they didn't have much experience

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Speaker 3: in the offense. They didn't have much experience in the

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Speaker 3: defensive calls and the checks. They didn't have much experience in.

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Speaker 3: And we used to stand on the silence and just

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Speaker 3: get so frustrated because we would and I'm not saying

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Speaker 3: that they felt this about the Bears last night, but

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Speaker 3: we used to feel we would beat the stew out

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Speaker 3: of that team. It just turned us loose a little bit, right,

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Speaker 3: So why are you running that? Why are you running

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Speaker 3: that play at that moment? You know, just open questions

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Speaker 3: like that come on, you know, And it was frustrating.

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Speaker 3: So I'm sitting on my couch last night, going this

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Speaker 3: is all too familiar to me. It is zero fun

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Speaker 3: stand on that side. Can you imagine Josh and Cook,

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Speaker 3: all those guys, Trey Rousseau, go down the list. There's

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Speaker 3: a big list, Go down the list. Those guys are

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Speaker 3: all standard. They're just vomiting in their mouth at what

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Speaker 3: they were not allowed to do last night. It's just yeah,

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Speaker 3: so there you go.

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Speaker 2: In case you missed it, almost no starters on the

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Speaker 2: field last night, but the second and third teamers did struggle.

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Speaker 2: Throughout the course of the game. The defense surrendered six

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Speaker 2: plays of twenty yards or more. They gave up three

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Speaker 2: hundred and seventy one yards halftime five hundred and twenty

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Speaker 2: eight total net yards by game's end. Buffalo's offense did

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Speaker 2: not help the defense very much either. They did not

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Speaker 2: convert a single third down opportunity, going oh for eight.

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Speaker 2: They also went for two on fourth down conversions.

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Speaker 3: They had forty one offensive plays nodding that doesn't include

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Speaker 3: six punts in two couldn't get a first down.

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Speaker 2: In two preseason games. The Bills are now one for

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Speaker 2: seventeen on third downs. On offense, they did not reach

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Speaker 2: the red zone possessing the ball. Frank or Junior got close,

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Speaker 2: but then fumbled at the ten. It was recovered at

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Speaker 2: the fourteen, and the possession was over. As a result,

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Speaker 2: time of possession was just under twenty one minutes for

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Speaker 2: the Bills and just over thirty nine minutes for Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Buffalo also committed ten penalties for ninety six yards.

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Speaker 3: Brad Robbins had a good night.

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Speaker 2: Brad Robbins had an unbelievable night, and I thought he

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Speaker 2: had a good game last week, So I think he

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Speaker 2: has clearly cemented. And he's been good on holds on kicks,

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Speaker 2: so I think he has firmly cemented his role on

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Speaker 2: the roster as the team's punter.

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Speaker 3: He said at the end of the game, he said,

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Speaker 3: he lost one punt right before halftime. It's getting and

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Speaker 3: I was, yeah, I was.

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Speaker 2: It was another ossie punt.

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Speaker 3: I was watching the game from a somebody else's couch

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Speaker 3: for the first half, and the last thing I saw

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Speaker 3: and how it was finger quotes covered by his guys.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, well, it looked like for me one guy

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Speaker 2: get a bounce on that ossie punt last week, and

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Speaker 2: it bounced into the end zone. Same thing happened here.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, no doubt he'll be working on that. But man,

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Speaker 2: not move the ball on offense. He had a sixty

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Speaker 2: fair catches. He had a nice night. Second year bullsco

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Speaker 3: The Bill's got ten first downs on offense last night.

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Speaker 3: What did the Bears have twenty one twenty? They had

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Speaker 3: actually they had twenty nine by offense, two by penalty,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, hey. Coach Sean McDermott, far from pleased, stated

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Speaker 2: that they have to find out who can help them,

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Speaker 2: what they have and what they still need, which was

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Speaker 2: I think his most telling statement of the night because

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Speaker 2: that opens the door to adding people that are not

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Speaker 2: currently on the roster. As far as I see it.

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Speaker 3: The fact that you're looking for your sorting through a

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Speaker 3: were pretty deep everywhere, Yeah, it's pretty telling.

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Speaker 2: There were a few bright spots in this game, Brad

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Speaker 2: Robbins being one of them, the punter. All three defensive

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Speaker 2: linemen that the Bills drafted flashed in this game on

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Speaker 2: the pass rush, so that's Landon Jackson, Dion Walker, TJ. Sanders.

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Speaker 2: I think all of them at least flashed in the game.

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Speaker 2: If they didn't have a front to back performance that

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Speaker 2: through the course of the game. Michael Hoyd, who played

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Speaker 2: a lot knowing he'll miss the first six games. Was

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Speaker 2: a menace for the second straight week, and Jordan Hancock

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Speaker 2: which he downplayed in the postgame locker room when talking

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Speaker 2: to reporters. He is supposed to get some imaging done

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Speaker 2: on that shoulder today and we'll probably find out more

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Speaker 2: tomorrow or the next day. There are more hamstring injuries

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Speaker 2: for Buffalo as well coming out of the long weekend

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Speaker 2: hamstring injury in the joint practice Friday, and that's why

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Speaker 2: he wasn't even dressed for Sunday night's game. So too

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Speaker 2: did reserve running back Darrington Evans and defensive back to

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Speaker 2: Corey Couch, both of them injured in the Friday joint

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Speaker 2: practice and neither of them played on Sunday night. That

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Speaker 2: was part of the reason Frank Gore got extended action

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Speaker 2: in the second half because Evans wasn't available. So that's

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Speaker 2: kind of the nuts and bolts of the game from

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Speaker 2: Sunday night, and we'll get into our topic of discussion

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Speaker 2: concerning that game and the preseason at large in just

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Speaker 2: a second. But we do want to go around the NFL,

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Speaker 2: which was brought to you by Kalida Health, the official

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Speaker 2: healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills, and according to NFL

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Speaker 2: national reporters, the Cincinnati Bengals have been engaged in trade

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Speaker 2: talks for veteran pass rusher Trey Hendrickson for weeks. Their

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Speaker 2: which is why nothing has transpired there. They are reportedly

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Speaker 2: asking for a young defensive player and a first round pick.

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Speaker 2: Steve Mike Brown is once again screwed up a situation colossally.

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Speaker 2: He wants to trade the guy now when he should

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Speaker 2: have done it in the spring. If you knew you

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Speaker 2: did not have the money, when this guy publicly said

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Speaker 2: I'm not playing on eighteen million dollar a year contract

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Speaker 2: when other guys are getting upwards of thirty two million

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Speaker 2: a year at my position, that's when you should have said, well,

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Speaker 2: it's time to trade him. That's when more teams had

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Speaker 3: Well, that's right. Everybody's kind of behind the eight ball

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Speaker 3: right now, and certainly there's there's a long list of

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Speaker 3: teams who could possibly get it. Done well. Just about

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Speaker 3: every team could. But the problem is the guy doesn't

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Speaker 3: want to. He wants a new deal, right, so it

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Speaker 3: is correct, that's that's the sticking point. Nobody wants to

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Speaker 3: sign a thirty year old pass rusher, no matter how

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Speaker 3: good he has been, to a long term deal. He's

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Speaker 3: making eighteen six a year. But here's the thing. Even

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Speaker 3: if you make it happen, say we can fit you

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Speaker 3: under the cap we're gonna give you they've got Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Bengals have thirty million dollars in cap space. Thirty million

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Speaker 3: dollars in cap space. That's with his eighteen six on

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Speaker 3: the books. Why you to say, hey, listen, we'll give

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Speaker 3: you an extra seven million, We'll give you a twenty

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Speaker 3: five million or twenty seven million whatever this year totally guaranteed,

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Speaker 3: and we'll make you free agent at the end of

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Speaker 3: the year. But come in and play for us. They're

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Speaker 3: not doing that. Nope, nobody wants a thirty year old

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Speaker 2: Well, not to mention the fact that any team that

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Speaker 2: necessary cap space to accommodate a player of this salary

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Speaker 2: then probably have to renegotiate for even more, maybe not

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Speaker 2: year after that. Perhaps, So the team that's trading for

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Speaker 2: get a quality defensive player and the first round pick

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Speaker 2: you're dreaming now because the other team has to do

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Speaker 2: all the salary cap gymnastics to fit the guy under

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm exactly the and he's I'm sitting here looking

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Speaker 3: at the Bengals have two hundred and ninety one total

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Speaker 2: Right now, one of the teams that could make this

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Speaker 2: that's New England Patriots GM Elliott Wolf was asked if

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Speaker 2: what it's worth. They've already invested heavily in their defensive line,

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Speaker 2: so I don't know if they would do this, Like

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Speaker 2: their trajectory does not support paying giant money to a

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Speaker 2: what I'm saying. Like their trajectory with Drake May like

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Speaker 2: it doesn't really make sense. Speaking of pass rushers, the

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Speaker 2: Miami Dolphins are hosting pass rusher Matthew Judon on a

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Speaker 2: free agent visit Miami. As we know, is in rough

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Speaker 2: shape defensively. Judon played for Atlanta last season. Packers quarterback

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Speaker 2: Jordan Love is back practicing today after undergoing a procedure

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Speaker 2: on the thumb of his non throwing hand. Presumably he'll

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Speaker 2: be limited in his first practice back today. We heard

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Speaker 2: he was going to do some seven on seven work,

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Speaker 2: but he is not with the starting unit. Also back practicing,

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Speaker 2: Ram quarterback Matthew Stafford for the first time this preseason.

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Speaker 2: Stafford has been managing a back injury through the course

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Speaker 2: of the summer, so we'll see where that goes. As

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Speaker 2: in the preseason, Cleveland Brown signed undrafted rookie receiver Isaiah Bond.

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Speaker 2: The Texas by way of Alabama product, was arrested back

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Speaker 2: in April on a sexual assault charge. The arrest stemmed

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Speaker 2: a consensual sexual encounter turned non consensual. Bond's legal proceedings

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I watched last night's game, and I'm very disappointed

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Speaker 6: Hi, guys, thanks for taking the call. Sure, let's just

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Speaker 6: get confidence stripped from playing. You know, quite frankly, I

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Speaker 6: don't even know how the starters are going to play,

435
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Speaker 6: you know, at the beginning of the season, because we

436
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Speaker 6: just haven't seen enough of them. So, yeah, a little

437
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Speaker 6: bit of a problem with that.

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Speaker 2: I get what you're saying, Tom, And I don't think

439
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Speaker 2: we even need to debate the fact that coach McDermott's

440
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Speaker 2: preseason strategy has shifted noticeably this summer. And what's the

441
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Speaker 2: reason for that is it the rash of injuries that

442
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Speaker 2: we've witnessed soft tissue injuries, and you know he's concerned

443
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Speaker 2: about adding to that list because there were three more

444
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Speaker 2: players added to the list after Friday's joint practice with Hams.

445
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Speaker 2: All three of them had hamstring injuries, so that could

446
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Speaker 2: be playing a factor in his decision making on playing

447
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Speaker 2: time for frontline starters. I think the other thing that

448
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Speaker 2: weighs heavily in this is the is the opener. It

449
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Speaker 2: is a gike, gigantic football game in Week one, and

450
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Speaker 2: I think he's trying to thread a very difficult needle here,

451
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Speaker 2: which is having your starters ready for what is going

452
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Speaker 2: to be a super intense, physical football game while also

453
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Speaker 2: protecting the collective health of that group. And I think

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Speaker 2: it's a hard needle to threat.

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Speaker 3: I'll say this, in the last six full seasons, the

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Speaker 3: last six full seasons, the first month of the season,

457
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Speaker 3: you're talking about Sean McDermott not doing the right thing

458
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Speaker 3: or not knowing how to get him ready for momentum.

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Speaker 3: They've started from twenty nineteen till the present, starting from

460
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Speaker 3: back then coming forward, it's they were three and one

461
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Speaker 3: four to oh three and one, three and one, three

462
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Speaker 3: and one, three and one, and that's not including some

463
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Speaker 3: of the seasons when they were five and one, but

464
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Speaker 3: at the end of five or six and one, at

465
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Speaker 3: the end of one of these couple of seasons, so

466
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Speaker 3: they start out three and one almost like clockwork. So

467
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Speaker 3: they do know how to get out of the gate fast.

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Speaker 3: That's why this is. You know, they're not changing their philosophy,

469
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Speaker 3: they haven't done something massively different. They're doing what they

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Speaker 3: do to get ready to play. And the opener, I mean,

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Speaker 3: and I told you I've said this before. I think

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Speaker 3: the opener is a crusher of a game. It's a

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Speaker 3: crusher of a game that's a coin flip, even in

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Speaker 3: the building we're in because of the opponent that they're playing.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, you can fret over them not being ready

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Speaker 3: to open the regular season, but that would be the

477
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Speaker 3: exception rather than the rule. They are always ready to

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Speaker 3: open the season and they always get off to a

479
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Speaker 3: very good start.

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Speaker 2: Yep. And we mentioned it on the broadcast last night.

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Speaker 2: The Bills in the preseason opener last year lost thirty

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Speaker 2: three to six to the Bears. So make of it

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Speaker 2: what you want with the Bears, Yeah, thirty three to six.

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Speaker 2: That was the preseason opener last year. So we have

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Speaker 2: to take a break here, but we're wide open for

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Speaker 2: your phone call. So if you're holding at eight h

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Speaker 2: three oh five fifty, we'll get to you in the

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Speaker 2: next segment. Stay where you are and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: you when we return here on One Bill's Live, presented

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Speaker 2: by Colida Health. It's Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on

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Speaker 2: One Bill's Live on a Monday, Chris Brown Steve Tasker

492
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Speaker 2: with you. How much soccer you put it into this

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Speaker 2: year's preseason? You let us know at aito three zero

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Speaker 2: five five fifty two five fifty. A little bit of

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Speaker 2: free agency news. Former Jags and Bill's wide receiver Gabe

496
00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,440
Speaker 2: Davis flying back to Pittsburgh today for a second free

497
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 2: agent visit. Thus far this offseason, Steelers still looking for

498
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Speaker 2: wide receiver assistance. Let's get back to the phones, though,

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Speaker 2: and leading us off this segment is Mark in West Seneca.

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Speaker 2: What's up?

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Speaker 5: Mark?

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Speaker 7: Hey Brownie, Hey Steve, good to talk to you today.

503
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Speaker 7: Comment about the game, and then a question about Cole Bishop.

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Speaker 7: As far as the game goes, I'd be a little

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Speaker 7: bit more concerned if from all the reports I heard

506
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Speaker 7: about the practice before the game that the Bills starters

507
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Speaker 7: for all intents and purposes, from what I heard, dominated

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Speaker 7: the Bears on both sides of the ball, which I

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Speaker 7: think also has maybe a little bit of an effect

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Speaker 7: on the players themselves, as you know, we're better than

511
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Speaker 7: these guys. We don't really put out the effort. And

512
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Speaker 7: it was a learning experience for the second and third

513
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Speaker 7: liners on being a pro. Well, you guys were talking

514
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Speaker 7: about not being in your own beds and all that

515
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Speaker 7: kind of stuff. All that stuff when you start, when

516
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Speaker 7: you line up and play, it doesn't matter when you're

517
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Speaker 7: in the NFL. The NFL is going to put the

518
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Speaker 7: games on when they're going to put them on, and

519
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Speaker 7: you better be ready to play, and if you're not,

520
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Speaker 7: you're not being a pro. So and overall, as far

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Speaker 7: as the organization itself, it helped. I think it also

522
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Speaker 7: every once in a while it's good to get a

523
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Speaker 7: good kick in the pants for another NFL team like

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Speaker 7: that to sharpen everybody up. I'm sure nobody that came

525
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Speaker 7: to work in that building today was happy, from Brandon

526
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Speaker 7: Bean through the coaching staff to every player and all

527
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Speaker 7: the guys who didn't even play. I mean, they had

528
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Speaker 7: to walk in and go, what the heck happened? And

529
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Speaker 7: we got to get back and focused again. So that's

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Speaker 7: not a bad thing. So especially with all the accolades

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Speaker 7: they're getting this offseason, as you know, a contender and

532
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Speaker 7: a favorite in the AFC. That all being said, my

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Speaker 7: concern and you guys walk me off the cliff as

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Speaker 7: far as Cole Bishop goes. When I looked at it,

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Speaker 7: I thought, Okay, he's ready to play, he's ready to go,

536
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Speaker 7: and now he's on a pitch count. Am I looking

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Speaker 7: at a China doll? Did this guy get a lot

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Speaker 7: of reps in the practice game before the game and

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Speaker 7: he looked good and that's why he would on a

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Speaker 7: pitch count? Or are they really protecting him physically because

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Speaker 7: as far as I'm concerned, this is a second year

542
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Speaker 7: in a row. He is just needing rep after rep

543
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Speaker 7: after rep, but he can't get on the field to

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Speaker 7: get him. So I'm concerned as to what's really going

545
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Speaker 7: on there. If you guys could straighten me out us

546
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Speaker 7: because I'm rooting for the kid. I think he's the Mark.

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Speaker 3: Mark, He's he's he was injured and now he's not

548
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Speaker 3: one thousand percent yet so they put him in and

549
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Speaker 3: they're giving him a rep count. That's why. Uh, they'll

550
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Speaker 3: just let him work back into it. Yeah, in a

551
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Speaker 3: perfect world, he's on the field all the time from

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Speaker 3: this point on.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he was limited in practice Wednesday. He played

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Speaker 2: a good amount in the Friday joint practice session, got

555
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Speaker 2: a lot of reps, a little up and down because

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Speaker 2: you would expect a guy that's missed over a week

557
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Speaker 2: of practice to be rusty, and he was. And you

558
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Speaker 2: know last night the touchdown he gave up. This is

559
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Speaker 2: where not game planning comes into play. The Bears have

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Speaker 2: a three wide receiver set on the right side, tight

561
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Speaker 2: end on the left, and they're in a nickel package

562
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Speaker 2: when you could argue maybe a dime package is better there.

563
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Speaker 2: And so what has to happen. They put Dorian Strong

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Speaker 2: on the tight end col Comet because he's the tallest

565
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Speaker 2: cover player they've got, Well, JaMarcus Ingram's on the other

566
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Speaker 2: side too, but JaMarcus Ingram's on the tallest receiver, DJ Moore.

567
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Speaker 2: You got Dorian Strong on Cole Comet on the other

568
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Speaker 2: side of the formation, and inside you've got Dakwon Hardy,

569
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Speaker 2: the smallest guy on another receiver, and now Cole Bishop

570
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Speaker 2: has to come down and cover a receiver and a

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Speaker 2: man to man call on Alamade's Akias. It's a mismatch.

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Speaker 2: Alamidas Xis is one of the fastest receivers on the

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Speaker 2: Bears roster. It's a mismatch. So everybody in the building

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Speaker 2: that's coaching knows that. The quarterback knows that. So he

575
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Speaker 2: wins on a quick slant in a matter of three

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Speaker 2: or four steps. But that's where the coaching staff gets

577
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Speaker 2: their evaluations and they say, okay, this is a man

578
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Speaker 2: coverage call. We cannot make against this set with this personnel. Well,

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Speaker 2: for these reasons.

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Speaker 3: The Bears come out in four wides, knowing the Bills

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Speaker 3: are in nickel, and they know they're gonna get a matchup,

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Speaker 3: and they put they're gonna get a safety on a receiver.

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Speaker 3: They get a safety on a receiver. And to be

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Speaker 3: very honest, Cole Bishop, yeah, he gets beat on the

585
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Speaker 3: slant route to the inside where you've got single high

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Speaker 3: safety and that's where his help is and Damar couldn't

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Speaker 3: get there in time. And so you know, the guy

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Speaker 3: makes a move and the guys wide out with some space,

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Speaker 3: you would expect him to make, you know, have it's

590
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Speaker 3: hard to tackle those guys, you know, so you got

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Speaker 3: a safety, you gotta big time wide out. And I'm

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Speaker 3: not even saying the wide receivers. You know, it's not

593
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Speaker 3: you know, a J.

594
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Speaker 2: Brown, but he's a kids' fastest receiver.

595
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Speaker 3: So he's running around on one on one on a

596
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 3: safety with safety way deep over the top. Yeah, he's

597
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Speaker 3: gonna win. So yeah, And I say this too. A

598
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Speaker 3: lot of people are looking for Cole Bishop to come

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Speaker 3: in and just be a starter and and kind of

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Speaker 3: have a Matt Mulano type of rise, or Terrell Bernard,

601
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Speaker 3: Terrell Bernard type of rise, or a Christian Benford type

602
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Speaker 3: of rise. And we'll see. But it's frustrating even for fans,

603
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Speaker 3: let alone the coaching staff and call himself that he

604
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Speaker 3: can't get on the field and stay there.

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Speaker 2: And I'll just say this about the joint practice. The

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Speaker 2: Bills did not dominate in every phase by any stretch.

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Speaker 2: I think the two parts of the Bills roster that

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Speaker 2: clearly won the day in the team portions of practice

609
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,480
Speaker 2: was Buffalo's starting offensive line, which protected exceptionally well in

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Speaker 2: the past game and open some holes in the run game.

611
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Speaker 2: And Buffalo's pass rush defensively dominated, particularly on the edges

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Speaker 2: where the Bears have problems with their tackle situation. That

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Speaker 2: is where they dominated. I don't think they dominated in

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Speaker 2: any other area. I think it was largely a stalemate

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Speaker 2: for the most part. Those are the only two areas

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Speaker 2: where I felt that the Bills dominated. They did not

617
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Speaker 2: dominate them in every phase of the game at all.

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Speaker 2: And that's just my assessment. And I'm standing between both

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Speaker 2: practice fields, chart and plays on both fields at the

620
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Speaker 2: same time, So I saw enough of it to give you,

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Speaker 2: you know, that's just my take on it. They didn't

622
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Speaker 2: get they didn't get beat up, but they didn't dominate either.

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Speaker 2: I think that's too strong a word to use there.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Gary in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Gary, Well, coin's not North Carolina. Sorry, it's okay.

626
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Speaker 1: Two things. One, I'm kind of disappointed and joined recent

627
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Speaker 1: he seems to not enough drop to catch the tight

628
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Speaker 1: ends coming across the middle, and he let go of

629
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Speaker 1: one guy on a crossing pattern to try and go

630
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Speaker 1: get the quarterback. Guy sits there for a sixteen or

631
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Speaker 1: seventeen yard game. That kind of bothered me. On the

632
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Speaker 1: offensive side of the board. I know we have semi

633
00:35:24,719 --> 00:35:29,360
Speaker 1: decent backup offensive lineman, the center is very weak. That

634
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:33,400
Speaker 1: kid got pushed around like crazy, and Vandermark seems to

635
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 1: didn't have his head in the game. He had two

636
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:43,719
Speaker 1: offside or false start penalties. Yeah, I don't know why.

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Speaker 1: Is it just because they have never played together as

638
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Speaker 1: a group or what.

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00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 2: That's exactly part of it, Gary, So I'll help you

640
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Speaker 2: with this. First of all, your projected backup center hasn't

641
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 2: played a snap in pre season. It's your last year's

642
00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 2: fifth round pick, Sedric van pran Granger, who's been out

643
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: with the caffe in injury. The next guy that played

644
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 2: center last week as a backup was Dan Feeney, who

645
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 2: they signed a week and a half ago. He was

646
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:11,760
Speaker 2: playing guard last night. So they had an undrafted rookie,

647
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:17,440
Speaker 2: Jacob Bear playing center with the second group, and I

648
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Speaker 2: would venture to guess that he and Ryan Vandermark have

649
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,560
Speaker 2: had very few snaps together because vander Mark has been

650
00:36:24,600 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: playing in Spencer Brown spot at starting right tackle for

651
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,680
Speaker 2: the first two weeks of training camp. So there's a

652
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 2: cadence to both the quarterback you're playing with and the

653
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,120
Speaker 2: cadence of the Snenners snap, and it was clear that

654
00:36:37,239 --> 00:36:39,719
Speaker 2: vander Mark was not on the same page with the

655
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 2: cadence of Bears snapping, and that's why he left early twice.

656
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,360
Speaker 2: That's gonna happen when you don't have reps with a

657
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:52,360
Speaker 2: guy and it's early in the game. So that's why

658
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:55,040
Speaker 2: that happened. You know, I'm not completely excusing guy and

659
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: vander Mark. He's got to adjust, but that's going to

660
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,759
Speaker 2: happen with a center, you know, because you got the

661
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 2: head and then the snap. Well, he hasn't played with Bear.

662
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 2: He doesn't know how that works in terms of the

663
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: timing of it. So that's why he was a little off.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, McGovern head, Bob snap simultaneously. Bayar had Bob's wait

665
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 3: and brings his head back up then snaps it and

666
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Speaker 3: that's that half seconds all the difference. So that's just

667
00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 3: not having reps with the guy and he got You've

668
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 3: got Chase Lunt playing left guard last night.

669
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Speaker 2: When he's tackle his entire college career.

670
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Speaker 3: He was, he's a tackle. I was, you know, like

671
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,400
Speaker 3: everybody like all like Bill's fans, all you have your

672
00:37:37,400 --> 00:37:41,520
Speaker 3: buddies and you text as do I And we were

673
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,680
Speaker 3: in the loop last night and we're they're going to

674
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,800
Speaker 3: you know what, most of the calls today, what was

675
00:37:47,840 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 3: going on last night? Most of it you got guys

676
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,360
Speaker 3: playing out of position, taking reps with guys they have

677
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 3: never taken a rep with before. And but there's a

678
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 3: purpose to that too, of course, and it and it's

679
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 3: a twofold purpose. One is just let's see him. I'm

680
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Speaker 3: going to put you in an uncomfortable spot in a

681
00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:12,640
Speaker 3: game in the NFL. How do you do and nobody

682
00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:16,040
Speaker 3: else is playing? Right, yeah, and I want to see

683
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Speaker 3: how you do in that, and I want to see

684
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Speaker 3: I want to see how you do.

685
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Speaker 2: Well. Let's just take the Chase Lung case a step

686
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Speaker 2: further here, because as we have discussed on our podcast,

687
00:38:27,160 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: Bills by the Numbers, which is out right now, and

688
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: if you want to hear more about this, you can

689
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:34,919
Speaker 2: listen to that. But the Bills are not keeping five

690
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 2: offensive tackles who can only play offensive tackle. So you

691
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: have Spencer Brown and Dion Dawkins as your starters, and

692
00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 2: then you have Ryan Vandermark and Tyland Grabil who's still

693
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:48,200
Speaker 2: in concussion protocol, and then you have the rookie Chase Lunt.

694
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Speaker 2: You're not keeping five tackles on a fifty three man roster,

695
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:53,960
Speaker 2: you need somebody to play guard in the interior positions.

696
00:38:54,560 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 2: And so the exercise with Chase Lunt last night was, well,

697
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,520
Speaker 2: we're happy to keep a guy that can play tackle,

698
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 2: but we're also going to need you to play guard

699
00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:05,959
Speaker 2: if you're gonna be on the fifty three man roster.

700
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Speaker 2: So let's see if you can do that. Can you

701
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 2: anchor at six foot eight against bigger, low to the

702
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 2: ground defensive tackles And he's a fish out of water

703
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 2: there because he hasn't played there. So they'll make their

704
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 2: evaluations and take it from there. But that's the aim

705
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,320
Speaker 2: of what they're driving at there more than anything else.

706
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 2: But yeah, and you know your comments on Joe and Drecent.

707
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 2: That's fine. That's your opinion. You're entitled to him. And look,

708
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,040
Speaker 2: I love Joe as much as the next guy, but

709
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:42,400
Speaker 2: there's a reason he's fighting to be a backup middle linebacker,

710
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,160
Speaker 2: which is a job I think he'll have when we

711
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 2: get to the regular season. But you're a backup in

712
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 2: this league because why, there are some limitations to your game,

713
00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 2: and maybe some of them were revealed last night for

714
00:39:56,360 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: Joe and a lot of other players. That's why you

715
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,279
Speaker 2: have guys that are second line players and third line

716
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 2: players because they don't have the complete skill set that

717
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Speaker 2: maybe a starting caliber player has.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Joe's gutting stuff going for him, no question.

719
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Speaker 8: Yea.

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Speaker 3: He made the fifty three last year outright. And and

721
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 3: like Brownie said, there are certain things he brings to

722
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Speaker 3: the table that are very good.

723
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I mean his reads in the run game

724
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 2: or unbelievable.

725
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Speaker 3: The holes in his game may be hard for us

726
00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,959
Speaker 3: to discern because we don't know the ins and outs

727
00:40:29,960 --> 00:40:32,160
Speaker 3: of what he's being asked to do. It may be

728
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 3: the mental part of the game or whatever may be

729
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: dropping in a certain area of the fields, and we

730
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,000
Speaker 3: who knows. But yeah, Joe's not going to be perfect.

731
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Speaker 3: Nobody is. But he's pretty darn good and I think

732
00:40:45,640 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 3: they like him. So don't get I mean in a game,

733
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Speaker 3: in that game last night, you don't know whether Joe

734
00:40:52,600 --> 00:40:55,400
Speaker 3: and I've seen this happen. Guys get downgraded on a

735
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 3: play because they didn't trust the guy next to him.

736
00:40:57,880 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 3: They're trying to cover for another player. They think that

737
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:03,959
Speaker 3: their opponent, in this case, the Bears offense, is gonna

738
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: throw it in an to a guy and he's trying

739
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,400
Speaker 3: to get over there to cover that guy and leaves

740
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:11,080
Speaker 3: his you know, his own space. Like last night, Joe

741
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: came up to tackle the quarterback and the guy just

742
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,320
Speaker 3: flips it over his head to the guy Joe was guarding.

743
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: And it's a big game. That kind of stuff happens

744
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: in preseason games where you've got a semi at least

745
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 3: well now, an established player like Joe andreeson trying to

746
00:41:26,719 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 3: help a guy who's lost contained in the pocket. That happens,

747
00:41:31,080 --> 00:41:33,640
Speaker 3: and you can't do it even if you're you know,

748
00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,359
Speaker 3: if you're running away from the guys around the wall.

749
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 3: You got to you just gotta kind of hang in there,

750
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Speaker 3: and sometimes it's hard to do.

751
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: Gotta take a break here, But we're wide open for

752
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 2: your phone calls, so we're gonna keep on taking him

753
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,560
Speaker 2: as long as you're sitting there on hold. So stay

754
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,080
Speaker 2: where we are. We'll get to you when we return

755
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:48,200
Speaker 2: here on One Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health. It's

756
00:41:48,239 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: Buffalo Bill's Radio. All right back here on One Bill's Live.

757
00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,880
Speaker 2: How much doc are you putting into this year's preseason?

758
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:06,280
Speaker 2: Right back to the phones, we go and to Wayne

759
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:08,120
Speaker 2: in Amherst. What's up, Wayne?

760
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:11,799
Speaker 5: Hey, what's up? How are you? How are you two doing.

761
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 2: We're hanging in there after the day.

762
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Speaker 5: I didn't like last night's outcome. However, it's just preseason

763
00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 5: and the majority of the fan base that have this

764
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 5: the sky is falling. It hit beyond the head see mentality.

765
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 5: I don't think we should panic, I really don't. I

766
00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 5: think that the coaching staff and the GM and the

767
00:42:36,520 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 5: owner all have confidence in the team, and they're pretty

768
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 5: much saying, your grown men, we're here together, we know

769
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:47,680
Speaker 5: how to play football. Don't worry about it. There's a

770
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,239
Speaker 5: season coming up, and I believe he wants to keep

771
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:53,160
Speaker 5: everybody fresh because, like you said, we have a big

772
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,239
Speaker 5: game against the Ravens coming up, and once we get

773
00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,479
Speaker 5: started regular season, we're just going to go. So that's

774
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 5: my opinion.

775
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:04,880
Speaker 2: Yeap, Wayne, You're one of the cooler heads, so we

776
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,880
Speaker 2: get it. I think if there is a concern to

777
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 2: take out of last night's game, it is what is

778
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 2: the state of readiness of the depth on this roster.

779
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,200
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people felt that the depth

780
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 2: was good. There was a nice influx of youth, and

781
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,879
Speaker 2: I think there were some encouraging signs yet last night,

782
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,920
Speaker 2: certainly from the draft class. I mean, as I said earlier,

783
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 2: TJ Sanders, Deon walker Land, and Jackson all flashed up

784
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:35,799
Speaker 2: on the defensive line. I thought you Von Solomon had

785
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,000
Speaker 2: some good snaps again last night. I continue to see

786
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 2: undrafted rookie Keyante Jenkins flash, if not on defense, on

787
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 2: special teams. So I think that's a kid that's really

788
00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: making a play to be on this roster. And Brad Robbins,

789
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:52,640
Speaker 2: you've got a new punter this year. He might have

790
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,880
Speaker 2: been the best player on the field last night. So,

791
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 2: I mean, you laugh, but it's important, especially when your

792
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 2: offense isn't convert third downs.

793
00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:06,680
Speaker 3: Listen, you're right, and there have been Team Bills teams

794
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 3: in the past who's MVP was the punter. It's not

795
00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 3: a happy place to be, and that's where we're kind

796
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 3: of sitting today. We're sitting in the Yeah, this is

797
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: the middle of the drought, right, that's what that was

798
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 3: like yesterday.

799
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,520
Speaker 2: You're not wrong, right, we're both there.

800
00:44:25,920 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: Just you know, take a deep breath. It stinks to

801
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: be on that end of a game. And think back,

802
00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean two weeks ago, two games ago, when you

803
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 3: got beat by three to the Giants, and the Giants,

804
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 3: you know, they look good coming out of the gate.

805
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Their starters were in there for a hot minute and

806
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:42,720
Speaker 3: they got off to a big lead, and the Bills

807
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:47,200
Speaker 3: came back and they made a game of it. It

808
00:44:47,239 --> 00:44:50,759
Speaker 3: was like, yeah, it's fine, you lost, but it's like fine,

809
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 3: now this one you lose in a way that you

810
00:44:53,120 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: don't even look functional as a football team, and then

811
00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 3: that strikes a little different core. There's no question about it.

812
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 3: Does The problem is as bad as it feels, you

813
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,560
Speaker 3: can't spin it in a way that makes it more

814
00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 3: important or more telling than the other way. Certainly you

815
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,399
Speaker 3: can say, yeah, maybe their depth isn't what we thought,

816
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 3: but even the guys they had playing that may not

817
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,680
Speaker 3: be frontline NFL players, or we don't know that they're

818
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 3: gonna be, or are or whatever, a good portion of

819
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 3: those guys on both sides the ball, we're playing in

820
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 3: a new combination with new It was like the first

821
00:45:30,680 --> 00:45:34,800
Speaker 3: practice for some of these guys. I was I couldn't

822
00:45:34,840 --> 00:45:36,760
Speaker 3: believe Lunt was playing left guard.

823
00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:38,520
Speaker 2: Well, he played a little guard at the end of

824
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,040
Speaker 2: last week's game after playing tackle for most of it.

825
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: And that's think about that. You're in a game where

826
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Speaker 3: the other team is really putting got their foot on

827
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Speaker 3: the gas, and you're playing at a spot where you

828
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 3: may be asked to play that spot in the regular

829
00:45:57,640 --> 00:46:01,759
Speaker 3: season if there's a train wreck. Right. So that's how

830
00:46:01,840 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 3: remote the possibility is that you're gonna end up starting

831
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 3: a game at left guard rather than at a tackle spot.

832
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:11,840
Speaker 3: But there you are, playing and playing every snap. It's

833
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 3: just a rough, rough scenario, particularly offensively, because everything's so

834
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,839
Speaker 3: choreographed on defense, you know, one guy could pop through

835
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 3: make a play, and even if all the other ten

836
00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 3: guys are doing something wrong, they look great because one

837
00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,239
Speaker 3: guy popped through and made a play. Offensively, it does

838
00:46:31,280 --> 00:46:33,959
Speaker 3: not work like that, and it showed so much last

839
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 3: night and how difficult it is to play well together

840
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 3: when you don't haven't played together at all.

841
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Speaker 2: Got to take a break here. David Orchard Park, Chuck

842
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:45,719
Speaker 2: in Edison Park. They'll lead us off when we begin

843
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Speaker 2: our number two here on a Monday edition of One

844
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:50,960
Speaker 2: Bill's Live. How much soccer are you putting into this

845
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 2: year's preseason? We're back in a flash here on One

846
00:46:53,040 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 2: Bill's Live, presented Boy Collide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

847
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 3: The One Bills Live presented by Calida Health.

848
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,080
Speaker 2: All Right, our number two on a Monday in the

849
00:47:41,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 2: aftermath of the thirty eight nothing defeat at the hands

850
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Speaker 2: of the Bears. In preseason week number two, Chris Brown,

851
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 2: Steve Tasker with you, and we're gonna get right back

852
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:51,560
Speaker 2: to the phones because we've got a lot of people

853
00:47:51,560 --> 00:47:53,040
Speaker 2: holding and we want to get to all of you.

854
00:47:53,719 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 2: So as promised, we lead off this segment with Dave

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Speaker 2: and Orchard Park.

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00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 9: What's up, Dave, gentlemen, good afternoon. Many concerns as I

857
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 9: look at this, and God forbid if anything happens to Josh,

858
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:08,360
Speaker 9: I think I'll start praying today. The backup quarterback situation

859
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 9: is absolutely deplorable. All three backups didn't even combine for

860
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,279
Speaker 9: one hundred and fifty yards when Stenson Bennett, a third

861
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 9: stringer for the Rams, through for three twenty four and

862
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 9: three touchdowns. I know backups are playing in the preseason,

863
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 9: but zero points in a preseason game against backups, You've

864
00:48:24,320 --> 00:48:27,320
Speaker 9: got to be kidding me. One sack in two weeks

865
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 9: by a guy that's going to be out for six

866
00:48:29,400 --> 00:48:33,680
Speaker 9: weeks than Michael Hoyt, and then one third down conversion, Chris,

867
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:35,239
Speaker 9: as you had mentioned at the top of the hour

868
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 9: in two weeks. I mean, this injury is piling up.

869
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 9: The secondary is a mess, the backup quarterback situation is deplorable,

870
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 9: and this team has got a lot of work to do.

871
00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:48,160
Speaker 9: And you know mcdermot's not going to play any of

872
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 9: the starters. Maybe we'll see Kurtis Samuel or Elijah Moore

873
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 9: because they need work for this game against Tampa Bay.

874
00:48:54,120 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 9: But I understand you want to keep Allen healthy, but

875
00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:59,400
Speaker 9: God forbid if something happens to him. After looking at

876
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 9: that quarterback performance last night and the secondary, I called

877
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 9: Dallas right now, Malie Cooker's on the market. You can

878
00:49:06,040 --> 00:49:08,319
Speaker 9: get a draft pick from Malie Cookers, a safety, get

879
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 9: him in here. Even as Cincinnati, what's gonna take to

880
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 9: get Hendrickson? That value is going to keep on going

881
00:49:14,280 --> 00:49:16,399
Speaker 9: down because Brown doesn't know what that hell he's doing

882
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 9: there at Cincinnati. I mean, you're not gonna get Parsons,

883
00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:21,040
Speaker 9: but at least try to make an attempt to get Hendrickson,

884
00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,279
Speaker 9: because God forbid, if Bosa goes down and maybe flashes,

885
00:49:24,360 --> 00:49:27,040
Speaker 9: Like you said, Chris, of our three defensive linemen that

886
00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 9: we picked up Sanders and Jackson and Walker, but I'm

887
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 9: not confident about the defensive line at this point. I'm

888
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:37,280
Speaker 9: not confident about the secondary, and the quarterback situation behind

889
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:38,360
Speaker 9: Allen is a mess.

890
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean everybody's backup quarterback situation is going to

891
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:47,399
Speaker 2: be a drop off. I think mess is a little strong, Dave.

892
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 2: But I will agree with you that Trubisky and White

893
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:59,080
Speaker 2: really haven't definitively separated himself from the other guy. I

894
00:49:59,120 --> 00:50:03,200
Speaker 2: will say, trips, He's been a little bit better, and

895
00:50:03,239 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: I think his game resembles Josh's more than Mike whites does.

896
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:14,319
Speaker 2: Mike White doesn't offer you the mobility that Josh does

897
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:20,640
Speaker 2: one iota. I think Trubisky's mobility lends itself more to

898
00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 2: the kind of play calling you have for Josh. So

899
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,480
Speaker 2: if God forbid, the worst happens and Josh is on

900
00:50:28,560 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 2: the shelf, I think Trubisky represents more of the mobility

901
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:37,080
Speaker 2: that Josh brings to the game, and because of that,

902
00:50:38,239 --> 00:50:42,680
Speaker 2: you can keep major elements of your offensive play calling

903
00:50:42,760 --> 00:50:48,879
Speaker 2: the same because he's almost as mobile. And I thought

904
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: he played better than Mike White in the first week,

905
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:56,840
Speaker 2: especially with some of his escapability and second reaction plays.

906
00:50:57,200 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 2: That I had not seen a lot of from Mitchell

907
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,480
Speaker 2: Trubisky up until that point. Now, both of them were

908
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 2: not good yesterday. I don't think they got a ton

909
00:51:05,080 --> 00:51:08,960
Speaker 2: of help from their receivers, with the exception of maybe

910
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,920
Speaker 2: Tyrell Shavers and one or two others. Wilkerson made some

911
00:51:12,000 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 2: catches as well. Mike White did not get any help.

912
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:19,319
Speaker 2: He was victimized by drops. He also had to pass

913
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:21,719
Speaker 2: bat at at the line. I think he was like

914
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 2: later in the game, he was three of seven passing

915
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: and the four incompletions were batted past, two drops and

916
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,759
Speaker 2: one slightly air and throw. So it didn't get a

917
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,880
Speaker 2: lot of help either. But look, bad is bad, and

918
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:38,080
Speaker 2: it wasn't good last night, and your head coach said

919
00:51:38,080 --> 00:51:42,160
Speaker 2: as much. I do share your concern mark with the

920
00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 2: depth in the secondary on two fronts. One, I think

921
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 2: that Dorian Strong has more upside than maybe some of

922
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 2: the more experienced players that are at the reserve levels

923
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 2: in the pecking order. But he's inexperienced, and so he's

924
00:52:00,560 --> 00:52:02,160
Speaker 2: a guy that's going to be learning on the job

925
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,520
Speaker 2: when you already have a rookie first round pick that's

926
00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 2: going to be playing catch up when he gets back

927
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:11,840
Speaker 2: that's a little disconcerting. I like the athleticism and ability

928
00:52:11,880 --> 00:52:13,920
Speaker 2: he brings to the table, but I think there are

929
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 2: going to be times where if he does have to

930
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 2: get on the field and play, he's going to be

931
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:20,919
Speaker 2: targeted immediately. And he hasn't seen enough in this league

932
00:52:20,920 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 2: where I think he's going to be tricked a couple

933
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 2: of times. For lack of a better description, I think

934
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 2: the depth there is of concern number one. Second, I

935
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 2: think this was a defensive staff that wanted to play

936
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 2: more man coverage this year. From what we have seen

937
00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 2: in the preseason, which has been a fair amount of

938
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:49,240
Speaker 2: man coverage, I don't think it's an option unless Maxwell

939
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 2: Hairston and Christian Benford are on the field as full

940
00:52:53,400 --> 00:52:57,399
Speaker 2: time starters. Short of that, I don't think he can

941
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 2: play a lot of man coverage or more man coverage.

942
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,879
Speaker 2: Then maybe you wanted than you did last year because

943
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 2: last year man coverage was ineffective with Rasul Douglass on

944
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,840
Speaker 2: the field because he could not do it, and I

945
00:53:07,880 --> 00:53:10,600
Speaker 2: don't know that they have anybody besides Benford and Harrison

946
00:53:10,719 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 2: right now they can do it either the.

947
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,680
Speaker 3: Reason they want On a regular basis, I think I'll

948
00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 3: say this too, not for nothing. I think that one

949
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 3: of the reasons they want to play man coverage and

950
00:53:18,280 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: play a little bit more so they can send extra

951
00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:22,120
Speaker 3: people after the passer to try and get a pass rush.

952
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,880
Speaker 3: Last year they got they were ineffective. Rush in the

953
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: past was just four guys rushing. The only time they

954
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 3: got somebody's when they sent second, somebody from the secondary

955
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 3: or one of the linebackers, and they did it as

956
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,879
Speaker 3: a surprise measure. It came out of nowhere and they'd

957
00:53:34,880 --> 00:53:35,880
Speaker 3: get a sack because of it.

958
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 2: You can't have that this year. You can't do that

959
00:53:38,040 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 2: with the investment they made in their defensive line. Four

960
00:53:40,719 --> 00:53:42,960
Speaker 2: guys have to be effective at.

961
00:53:42,840 --> 00:53:45,120
Speaker 3: Least some of the time, some of the time, half

962
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:48,640
Speaker 3: the time, right, So I think Brownie's right, they've got

963
00:53:48,640 --> 00:53:51,120
Speaker 3: to find a way to hold up in man coverage

964
00:53:51,120 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 3: in the back end so that they can make sure

965
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:53,560
Speaker 3: they get pressure.

966
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:56,600
Speaker 2: But we haven't seen any evidence of that in the.

967
00:53:56,600 --> 00:54:00,960
Speaker 3: Right and I'm sure they haven't unfurled any the stunts

968
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 3: or defensive adjustments that they can run referral with these guys.

969
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,600
Speaker 3: But nevertheless, that's where their head's got to be. So

970
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:19,880
Speaker 3: I think I'm with Brownie. The quarterbacks. Yeah, if if

971
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,480
Speaker 3: you chop up, if you chop off the MVP of

972
00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:28,120
Speaker 3: your of the league from your team, you're gonna have

973
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:31,320
Speaker 3: some scar tissue for a while. And on this roster,

974
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 3: if they're completely one hundred percent healthy, they might be

975
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,240
Speaker 3: a five hundred club, you know, if you take Josh

976
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,840
Speaker 3: off the top. But everybody's got to be healthy and

977
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:43,640
Speaker 3: playing well, and then it's gonna take them a minute

978
00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: to find out what they can do with a new quarterback,

979
00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,840
Speaker 3: whether it's Trubisky or White. So yeah, if something happens

980
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:50,440
Speaker 3: to Josh, forget it. But that's the same thing if

981
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 3: something happens to Mahomes, if something happens to Joe Burrow,

982
00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:56,799
Speaker 3: if something happens to Lamar, if something happens to any

983
00:54:56,800 --> 00:54:58,279
Speaker 3: of these players, Tua.

984
00:54:58,120 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: For happening to Lamar, I mean they missed the playoffs.

985
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, CJ. Stroud, Jalen hurts you, and you name it.

986
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:09,400
Speaker 3: If something happens to that guy, you're done. So I

987
00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 3: mean we've only I've only you can only remember what

988
00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 3: one is. Nick Foles in Philly taken over for Carson

989
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,600
Speaker 3: Wentz when he was having an MVP type caliber year

990
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 3: and then all those yeah, right, Hosteler with the Giants

991
00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:24,200
Speaker 3: got it done. Those were pretty few and far between

992
00:55:24,239 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 3: us almost forty years ago, bru Sleeve, So you know

993
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 3: that's it's rare, so you you got to know that.

994
00:55:34,040 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I'll say it again, Trubisky and White

995
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:40,320
Speaker 3: are there to help Josh play, not to help themselves

996
00:55:40,360 --> 00:55:42,880
Speaker 3: play good. You know, if they're depending on those guys

997
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:45,800
Speaker 3: to win, they would be starting for another team.

998
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 2: Let's go back to the phones and to Chuck and

999
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,320
Speaker 2: Edison Park who's been waiting patiently.

1000
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,360
Speaker 10: What's up, Chuck, Hey, guys, how you doing. Yeah? I

1001
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 10: had most of the previous callers have stolen my thunder.

1002
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,640
Speaker 10: But just a general comment. I think Steve on Thursday

1003
00:55:58,920 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 10: talked about how the Bears he expected the Bears to

1004
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 10: come out fired up, and I'm living in the Chicago

1005
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:06,680
Speaker 10: Land area, by the way, so it came out almost

1006
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:08,960
Speaker 10: exactly to form. So me personally, I was like, Okay,

1007
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:11,480
Speaker 10: this is kind of what we thought was going to happen,

1008
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 10: and with out our starters in there, that was going

1009
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,799
Speaker 10: to be a problem. But a couple of things that

1010
00:56:16,840 --> 00:56:19,120
Speaker 10: concerns that I kind of jotted down the status of

1011
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 10: Tyler bass, I guess would be in along with that,

1012
00:56:21,719 --> 00:56:24,319
Speaker 10: maybe the status of the injured, you know Maxwell and

1013
00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 10: you know Shaker. I assume that they're just on pay

1014
00:56:28,239 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 10: still for a regular season, but that would be I

1015
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:32,600
Speaker 10: would sort of like to know that. And I think

1016
00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:37,040
Speaker 10: also your comments Brownie about the scrimmage that I saw online.

1017
00:56:37,239 --> 00:56:38,840
Speaker 10: You know, they played pretty good in the scrimmage, and

1018
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 10: that's where your competitive thing would be coming out. I

1019
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,960
Speaker 10: would think, you know, so that's and then the quarterbacks.

1020
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,680
Speaker 10: The last caller was talking about it too, and I

1021
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 10: had the same concern. But I think you just nailed

1022
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 10: that one. We just said that, you know, they're there

1023
00:56:53,840 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 10: for to help Josh get ready, but havn't said that.

1024
00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,799
Speaker 10: I see Badger here locally, and I think he will

1025
00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 10: be we kind of kid that was a lower pick

1026
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,400
Speaker 10: that we could develop, or a guy like Placo. I

1027
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 10: realize he's a starter, but I mean somebody like that.

1028
00:57:08,760 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 10: Either one of those guys. Yeah, no, I'll let you

1029
00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:13,760
Speaker 10: deal with all those. I was too bod a kicker

1030
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:14,879
Speaker 10: didn't make that kick either.

1031
00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 5: I was.

1032
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 10: I was hoping he'd nail that one, but I didn't

1033
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 10: know what the bass and status is. So you can

1034
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:20,640
Speaker 10: have you to.

1035
00:57:20,560 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 2: Help you out with that, Chuck, thanks for the call

1036
00:57:22,080 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 2: and thanks for holding for so long. Yeah, Harrison's off crutches,

1037
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:31,600
Speaker 2: so that's good. With the spraind LCL not yet doing

1038
00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:34,600
Speaker 2: stuff on the side in the practice setting, and I

1039
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,920
Speaker 2: think we're probably still another week or so away from that.

1040
00:57:37,880 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: So the target I think is have him ready for

1041
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 2: the regular season and not to start because he will

1042
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 2: have missed too much time to expect that of him.

1043
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 2: I think that's a little unfair. But hopefully he's up

1044
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 2: and practicing and is you know, a reserve option you know,

1045
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:57,400
Speaker 2: come the regular season. But we'll have to wait and

1046
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:01,200
Speaker 2: see on that. Shakir is target for the regular season

1047
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 2: as well. Hopefully he's ready to go in week one.

1048
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:06,560
Speaker 2: He did not play well. He played and got injured

1049
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 2: in the Ravens game last year in Week four, and

1050
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:14,160
Speaker 2: the offense kind of went south after he exited, and

1051
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: then he did not play the next week either against

1052
00:58:16,120 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 2: the Texans, which was also a loss. So he's an

1053
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 2: important piece and I think they're going to do everything

1054
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:22,880
Speaker 2: in their power to make sure he's ready to roll.

1055
00:58:23,080 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 2: After he injured himself in the Blue and Red scrimmage,

1056
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 2: a couple of weeks ago, so the hope is that

1057
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: he's fine as well. And yes, the Bills were competitive

1058
00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:35,160
Speaker 2: in the Friday joint practice. Somebody said they dominated in

1059
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,120
Speaker 2: all phases. I just felt that was a little strong.

1060
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:41,920
Speaker 2: They were competitive, absolutely in every phase. I think the

1061
00:58:41,920 --> 00:58:45,040
Speaker 2: biggest problem that they had with the Bears was Roma Dunze,

1062
00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:48,040
Speaker 2: who kind of had his way with Buffalo's secondary and

1063
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 2: the joint practices. He was all over the field, he

1064
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,600
Speaker 2: was making plays. Nobody had an answer for him. They

1065
00:58:53,720 --> 00:58:56,560
Speaker 2: the only person that stopped him on one occasion was

1066
00:58:56,640 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 2: Christian Benford. Roman Dunze's along the sideline, the balls on

1067
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 2: nine feet in the air. He jumps like thirty eight

1068
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: inch vertical snares the ball with two hands, and Christian

1069
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:09,000
Speaker 2: Benford's like, well, I can't jump that high, so I'm

1070
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:10,480
Speaker 2: just gonna shove him at a bounds so he can't

1071
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 2: get two feet down and it was an incompletion because

1072
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:14,840
Speaker 2: he couldn't get his feet inbounds. But he was making

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Speaker 2: plays all over the field. He was a handful. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: they were competitive throughout. I don't think there's any question

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00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:22,600
Speaker 2: about that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's I think. I still think that's where the

1077
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,960
Speaker 3: focus of the entire offseason has been it's going to

1078
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:33,720
Speaker 3: remain until we see regular season action. The defense has

1079
00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 3: got to be a different group than it was last year,

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00:59:36,480 --> 00:59:39,800
Speaker 3: and they've got to get different production. Certainly, Max Harrison's

1081
00:59:39,920 --> 00:59:44,800
Speaker 3: injury really put a crimp in their plan because I

1082
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 3: thought with Max there, as well as Tradavious being more

1083
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 3: of an insurance policy rather than a corner a second

1084
00:59:51,800 --> 00:59:55,000
Speaker 3: cornerback behind Benford, I thought you had a chance to

1085
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:59,560
Speaker 3: athletic size with anybody, right, you could run, jump, keep

1086
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:03,600
Speaker 3: up with anybody. Yeah, that's not quite the case with Trey.

1087
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Speaker 3: Although Tray is technically very very good, you know, is it.

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01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:09,840
Speaker 3: He's thirty years old or close to it, so and

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Speaker 3: out of two major in rights, so major injuries. You

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Speaker 3: like having Trey there because it gives you a sense

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Speaker 3: of security. But when you get up against teams that

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Speaker 3: go deep in the wide receiver, like the Bills go

1093
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Speaker 3: deep in theirs, I mean that not that they you know,

1094
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,720
Speaker 3: they have all their guys right here, and if you do,

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01:00:26,920 --> 01:00:31,080
Speaker 3: if you're dB is down anywhere along the line, the

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01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:38,560
Speaker 3: Bills can exploit it. Most teams have that, like Roma Dunday,

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Speaker 3: who they'll move around and see if they can dictate

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Speaker 3: a matchup. Now, defenses canigate mitigate that a little bit

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Speaker 3: with their adjustment packages and game plans. The Bills weren't

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Speaker 3: doing any of that. The Bills weren't doing any of that.

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Speaker 2: So come the regular season, yeah, Bills might have to

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Speaker 2: have Benford travel with my team's best receiver because, as

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Speaker 2: you said, like Tredavis is a nice option to have,

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Speaker 2: but he is not a panacea as a CB two.

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Speaker 3: That's right. So, and it may be different for week

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01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:12,480
Speaker 3: to week like in Bolt in Baltimore, comes it rolls in.

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Speaker 3: Maybe you feel okay about your matchups. It's not the

1108
01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,680
Speaker 3: corners that you're worried about about your matchups with. Really

1109
01:01:19,760 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 3: is with the front seven more. Yeah, So then then

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Speaker 3: week two and the Jets, maybe it does change. Maybe

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01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 3: Benford does travel. So it's a week to week thing.

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Speaker 3: And but I think you know all this is way

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Speaker 3: well and above and beyond anything that happened in Chicago.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to Joe in Tonawanda next. What's up?

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Speaker 3: Joe?

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Speaker 11: Hey, gentlemen, good afternoon, afternoon. So I have three things.

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Speaker 11: First of all, the question is how much stock do

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Speaker 11: you put into this year's preseason you know what, I

1119
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:55,040
Speaker 11: put about ten percent of my faith as far as

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Speaker 11: the outcome yesterday, the Bills are going to be fine.

1121
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:01,240
Speaker 11: These guys going off about this, that and the other. Yes,

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01:02:01,320 --> 01:02:05,040
Speaker 11: it was a horrible site. It was preseason is made

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Speaker 11: for evaluation of talent, draft picks, who's in, who's out,

1124
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Speaker 11: scheming different things like that. Outcome. It was ugly, but

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Speaker 11: it doesn't count. It's a preseason game. Half our team

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Speaker 11: was on the sideline all our starts.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 11: We're coming off of James Cook signing, which was the

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Speaker 11: way best news of the week, you know, and to

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Speaker 11: put a stock into last night and say oh, this,

1131
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 11: that and the other, you know what, I'm not buying it.

1132
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 11: This team is going to be fine. I'm looking at

1133
01:02:36,440 --> 01:02:39,560
Speaker 11: thirteen and four. I'm looking at the AFC East Division

1134
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Speaker 11: again and possibly the number one seed.

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Speaker 9: I'm not worrying.

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Speaker 11: We've got the weapons. Our offense scored over thirty points

1137
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 11: last year. Our defense didn't. We have like the highest

1138
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Speaker 11: turnover plus rating last.

1139
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Speaker 2: Year on defense, Yeah, yeah, plus twenty four.

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Speaker 11: The second thing I have is somewhere, somehow, Frank or

1141
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:03,200
Speaker 11: Junior has to play. This kid shows flashes. He's only

1142
01:03:03,240 --> 01:03:05,480
Speaker 11: been put in when he's able to. But I'm telling

1143
01:03:05,480 --> 01:03:08,360
Speaker 11: you he's the real deal. You see his father in him,

1144
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,880
Speaker 11: you see the talent. I'm all for Frank Gore Junior.

1145
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:15,920
Speaker 11: I know it's Cook, Davis and Tye, but somehow, somewhere

1146
01:03:15,960 --> 01:03:18,440
Speaker 11: Frank Gore needs to be a piece and a cog

1147
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:21,040
Speaker 11: in the offense. And then, finally, what do you guys

1148
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Speaker 11: think two weeks and on the preseason with the kickoff

1149
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:26,960
Speaker 11: returner Chanl and Codreington on punt returns. I don't see

1150
01:03:26,960 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 11: anything happening there. I don't see anything. You know, right

1151
01:03:30,400 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 11: now with two games in on preseason, what do you

1152
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 11: guys think of the kickoff returner Chant making it and

1153
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Speaker 11: being the starting kickoff and then Cod Reson on punts?

1154
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Speaker 11: Thanks guys, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if both of them make the roster. Yeah,

1156
01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 3: I like it. I like your idea. I'd feel better

1157
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: if you're a special teams coordinator. You're kind of pounding

1158
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:50,920
Speaker 3: the table for Codrington as a punt returner. I love

1159
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,040
Speaker 3: him as a punt returner. He's a great decision maker.

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Speaker 3: He's got the right bill for it. He's a little tiny,

1161
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Speaker 3: no question, but the guy makes it happen. And you know,

1162
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Speaker 3: he's a home run Chenault. And I'll say this too,

1163
01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:07,480
Speaker 3: I was noticing this on the kickoff returns. Pretty vanilla

1164
01:04:07,840 --> 01:04:11,600
Speaker 3: kick return kind of look to me. They catch it,

1165
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:16,240
Speaker 3: run forward and look for a spot. There's no nothing

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01:04:16,280 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 3: going on in front of him. They got guys getting

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01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 3: in on them. I just I think there's a little

1168
01:04:22,200 --> 01:04:27,320
Speaker 3: bit of close to the vest tactics that Chris Taber's

1169
01:04:27,400 --> 01:04:29,400
Speaker 3: using for these guys to I don't think he's rolled

1170
01:04:29,440 --> 01:04:33,280
Speaker 3: out any plans, plan or anything. He's just given guys

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01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 3: basic stuff to do and it's and it looks like that.

1172
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Speaker 3: I think he was leaving it up to physical matchups.

1173
01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,080
Speaker 3: Say hey, it's simple. You got this guy, you got

1174
01:04:41,080 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 3: that guy. You got that guy, go get him. And

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01:04:43,760 --> 01:04:45,720
Speaker 3: the return guys, you know, you're just telling him to

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Speaker 3: look for a spot.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the one advance. First of all, I

1178
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 2: agree with Steve. I don't think both make the fifty three.

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01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:56,320
Speaker 2: I think you might put one on the practice squad

1180
01:04:56,360 --> 01:04:58,520
Speaker 2: as a backup option to turn to in the event

1181
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:03,880
Speaker 2: of injury. And the the biggest, most evident difference between

1182
01:05:04,520 --> 01:05:07,840
Speaker 2: the two return men. Chenault is put together at six

1183
01:05:08,000 --> 01:05:12,120
Speaker 2: one two twenty eight and he has tackle breaking ability.

1184
01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:16,480
Speaker 2: Codrington really does not. He's on the smaller side, he

1185
01:05:16,560 --> 01:05:19,800
Speaker 2: does not break tackles. So then it becomes a question

1186
01:05:20,520 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 2: of what does the coaching staff value in that area.

1187
01:05:24,160 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: Do they have faith that their return unit is an

1188
01:05:27,200 --> 01:05:30,280
Speaker 2: excellent blocking unit that's going to create alleys for Codrington

1189
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Speaker 2: to run through without fear of arm tackles taking him down,

1190
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:38,880
Speaker 2: or would they rather have the bigger guy that can

1191
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 2: run through arm tackles and get extra yards for you

1192
01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 2: even when the blocking is not perfect. I would tend

1193
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,360
Speaker 2: to think they lean in favor of size, But we'll

1194
01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 2: have to see how it all plays out. We're going

1195
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 2: to take a quick break here and get back to

1196
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Speaker 2: the phone calls in just a second, So Butcher on

1197
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:57,480
Speaker 2: the east side, stay where you are. We'll be leading

1198
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 2: off with you and others holding at eight h three

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Speaker 2: h five fifteen when we return here on One Bill's Live,

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Speaker 2: presented by co Lot of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 2: All right back here on One Bill's Live on a Monday,

1202
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 2: on the heels of the preseason, lost to Chicago. How

1203
01:06:24,440 --> 01:06:26,440
Speaker 2: much stock you're putting in this year's preseason? You let

1204
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 2: us know what eight three oh five fifty got open

1205
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,680
Speaker 2: lines for you. Now we've got a little bit of

1206
01:06:29,720 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 2: a break in the logjam of callers. But back to

1207
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:35,480
Speaker 2: the phones we go, and to Butch on the east side.

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Speaker 2: What's up, Butch?

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Speaker 4: My brother's from another beautiful mother.

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Speaker 12: Thanks for taking my call.

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01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 4: I love him as.

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01:06:41,120 --> 01:06:43,720
Speaker 5: Glo w Jarones of the fans will listen and watch

1213
01:06:43,800 --> 01:06:45,280
Speaker 5: this radio station and TV show.

1214
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Speaker 12: I love its genevery one of you. I'm gonna get

1215
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,680
Speaker 12: right to it, my brother. This is being honest, you know,

1216
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:52,200
Speaker 12: and I know you guys work for organization, but you

1217
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:55,000
Speaker 12: guys know football, and you're very highly educated with a

1218
01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:57,680
Speaker 12: high ICEEA of football, and just is because people who

1219
01:06:57,680 --> 01:06:59,840
Speaker 12: don't work for the corporation. I don't mean they don't know,

1220
01:07:00,240 --> 01:07:02,360
Speaker 12: but I'm gonna say something to you. I'm don't go

1221
01:07:02,480 --> 01:07:05,160
Speaker 12: to get caught up in the word pre season, but

1222
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,880
Speaker 12: I do get caught up in football and regarding when

1223
01:07:07,880 --> 01:07:10,520
Speaker 12: I say that, I don't look at the eleven characters

1224
01:07:10,520 --> 01:07:13,000
Speaker 12: that they call quote starters. I look at people that

1225
01:07:13,080 --> 01:07:16,080
Speaker 12: want to feed their families and the participation of it.

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01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:19,920
Speaker 12: We played against the New York Giants last week and

1227
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Speaker 12: Brian Davio, who's a very educated, highly IQ offensive coordinator

1228
01:07:24,800 --> 01:07:29,040
Speaker 12: shown the world about what our problems are still by

1229
01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 12: he attacked to Davy's wife right off the bat. He

1230
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:34,360
Speaker 12: went right after with the screen game. He went right

1231
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,560
Speaker 12: after everything we've been doing for the last six years.

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Speaker 12: That was always a handy cap that we had with

1233
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Speaker 12: that zone coverage we ran. He was attacking to Davis

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01:07:41,960 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 12: White tremendously. It's got a personal attack, So fine, that's cool. Friday,

1235
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:50,200
Speaker 12: we scrimmaged against the same team and Johnson, who's the

1236
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,840
Speaker 12: first who was his first year head coach, but as

1237
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 12: the veteran office of coordinator watch this team. But now

1238
01:07:56,840 --> 01:07:59,959
Speaker 12: we're going to get on national TV, so national talent.

1239
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:04,800
Speaker 12: He exposed what this concept that we've been running for

1240
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:09,919
Speaker 12: the last few years. Regardless if my guy Brandon Bean

1241
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:13,640
Speaker 12: and his scoutings that had brought and built the cabinets

1242
01:08:13,640 --> 01:08:18,519
Speaker 12: with young talent, the scheme and way we run. If

1243
01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:21,120
Speaker 12: they say NFL means not for long, that means being

1244
01:08:21,240 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 12: caught up on you. Now you can't hide this no more.

1245
01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:28,000
Speaker 12: You're being exposed. And they exposed this last night. It

1246
01:08:28,040 --> 01:08:30,160
Speaker 12: wasn't really about the talent, you know what I mean?

1247
01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 12: Because this talent out there, it's the scheme that we're

1248
01:08:33,000 --> 01:08:34,880
Speaker 12: still even though it wasn't a game plan. I really

1249
01:08:34,880 --> 01:08:37,400
Speaker 12: don't care about game planning. You soon have to put

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01:08:37,439 --> 01:08:39,960
Speaker 12: the players in some kind of position so when you

1251
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,840
Speaker 12: do game plan, they're ready to participate. I just say

1252
01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 12: to my coaches, is that for the last six years,

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Speaker 12: I don't care. Like the one callers said, we're going

1254
01:08:49,320 --> 01:08:51,519
Speaker 12: to get the number one seed anyway, what's fine. But

1255
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:53,639
Speaker 12: every time we do get to the playoffs, we still

1256
01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:57,360
Speaker 12: get exposed by the same band aid to the same moves.

1257
01:08:57,560 --> 01:09:00,639
Speaker 12: That's all this hole is not moving forward thing is.

1258
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 12: And I think it's against for taking my call my brothers,

1259
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:06,559
Speaker 12: I love you. Is that is we have to look

1260
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:12,799
Speaker 12: back to understand that we're not We're not a secret anymore.

1261
01:09:13,240 --> 01:09:15,800
Speaker 12: You had two office of quarters that expose us. That's

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01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,519
Speaker 12: on film. Now we're gonna play against Tampa Bay. That's

1263
01:09:18,520 --> 01:09:20,200
Speaker 12: gonna be on filming. So what's the ten thing that

1264
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,960
Speaker 12: regardless of the starters player not, it's still gonna be

1265
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 12: some kind of a scheme. And I don't want to

1266
01:09:24,920 --> 01:09:28,040
Speaker 12: go into Baltimore where we get exposed when we know

1267
01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,760
Speaker 12: when we got two more weeks, either put something in

1268
01:09:30,800 --> 01:09:34,040
Speaker 12: it or change something. But this concept that we've been running.

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01:09:35,360 --> 01:09:38,960
Speaker 12: Even though we got good talent now, it still has

1270
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:41,599
Speaker 12: a problem. So I understand that. But I love my team,

1271
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Speaker 12: I love my coaches.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 12: I'm not saying change. Coaches are nothing crazy like that.

1274
01:09:46,600 --> 01:09:49,280
Speaker 12: I just say we're not perfect. NFL me's not for long.

1275
01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,559
Speaker 12: I need my coaches are sitting in the coaches meeting

1276
01:09:51,840 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 12: and say, listen, we're still running. Somebody's were trying to

1277
01:09:54,800 --> 01:09:57,720
Speaker 12: tweak it, but we're being exposed. That's all I got

1278
01:09:57,720 --> 01:09:59,320
Speaker 12: to say. I love you. I wasn't gonna talk about

1279
01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:02,800
Speaker 12: the quarterbacks, but that's another day. My thing is, I

1280
01:10:02,880 --> 01:10:04,519
Speaker 12: was going to just say this, thanks so much for

1281
01:10:04,600 --> 01:10:06,639
Speaker 12: taking my call. I love you guys, and you guys

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Speaker 12: have a great days.

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01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: They're they're not really scheming at all. If the Bills

1284
01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,599
Speaker 2: are not doing that at all, And if you think

1285
01:10:14,600 --> 01:10:16,639
Speaker 2: they're gonna do any next week against the team they're

1286
01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:19,479
Speaker 2: playing in the regular season later in the year, forget it.

1287
01:10:19,640 --> 01:10:21,479
Speaker 2: If you think they were vanilla the first two weeks,

1288
01:10:21,479 --> 01:10:23,680
Speaker 2: wait do you see the next Saturday.

1289
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Speaker 3: They may run the same defense fifty times in a

1290
01:10:25,560 --> 01:10:29,360
Speaker 3: row against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. The kind of what

1291
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Speaker 3: they're doing, which is what they're doing, which is what

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01:10:31,080 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 3: they did against the Giants and what they did against

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01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:38,400
Speaker 3: the Bears. They're not they're not changing anything. And yeah,

1294
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:43,840
Speaker 3: if an offensive coordinator so desires, particularly if he's a

1295
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:47,200
Speaker 3: head coach cal and plays, nobody's gonna say no. And

1296
01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,720
Speaker 3: particularly if it's Brian dabol who wants his quarterbacks to

1297
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:54,479
Speaker 3: look good for a change, he's gonna take advantage of

1298
01:10:54,520 --> 01:10:56,640
Speaker 3: whatever he knows the Bills are going to do defensively.

1299
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Speaker 3: That in and of itself is a game plan. The

1300
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,360
Speaker 3: Bills do not care. They want their guys to they're

1301
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:07,200
Speaker 3: playing these schemes that that's putting the onus on them

1302
01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:11,120
Speaker 3: and they're saying, what can you do. They're putting the

1303
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 3: onus on their own guys to win. In a position

1304
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:15,640
Speaker 3: where the offense kind of knows what they're going to

1305
01:11:15,680 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 3: be doing. They know the scheme they're gonna be running,

1306
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:22,000
Speaker 3: they know the personnel. They now they've got two preseason

1307
01:11:22,040 --> 01:11:26,800
Speaker 3: games of the same stuff. They're gonna say, Hey, let's

1308
01:11:26,840 --> 01:11:31,080
Speaker 3: see you compete. They're putting their own players in tough

1309
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 3: spots and forget about getting matchups to put their opponent

1310
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:36,120
Speaker 3: in a tough spot. They're putting their own players in

1311
01:11:36,200 --> 01:11:39,200
Speaker 3: tough spots. That's the idea of it. It's hard to

1312
01:11:39,280 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 3: do when you're sitting there watching your team get embarrassed.

1313
01:11:42,920 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 3: It's the same team embarrassed them last year thirty four

1314
01:11:45,600 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: to six. Remember that last year? I didn't I went

1315
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:51,959
Speaker 3: back and looked. I couldn't believe it. You're right, the Bears,

1316
01:11:52,680 --> 01:11:55,320
Speaker 3: the Bears that had like a top what five pick

1317
01:11:55,360 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 3: three pick?

1318
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,040
Speaker 2: Were we talking about kayleb Williams.

1319
01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,479
Speaker 3: No, no, no. This year and this year's they were

1320
01:12:00,520 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 3: top ten pick.

1321
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:06,600
Speaker 2: Post In Lovelin was the tenth pick in the draft.

1322
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:11,719
Speaker 3: They absolutely drubbed the Bills last year in the preseason.

1323
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 3: They did it again this year. So the Bills had

1324
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:19,040
Speaker 3: a different have a different set of goals they're trying

1325
01:12:19,080 --> 01:12:20,920
Speaker 3: to do, and it's up to us to kind of

1326
01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 3: endure the process. And that's where they're at. They are

1327
01:12:25,479 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 3: in the middle of their process and it's not pretty

1328
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:28,040
Speaker 3: right now.

1329
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Speaker 2: And look, coach McDermott said it last night. He's concerned.

1330
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,400
Speaker 2: He said he has a lot of concerns, and I

1331
01:12:35,439 --> 01:12:40,000
Speaker 2: think it's a byproduct of two things. One, the way

1332
01:12:40,080 --> 01:12:43,400
Speaker 2: the team has looked in the two preseason outings, game

1333
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 2: plan or otherwise. And second all the mist reps due

1334
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:52,080
Speaker 2: to injury through the course of training camp and the preseason.

1335
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Speaker 2: I think that has him concerned. I think he feels

1336
01:12:55,400 --> 01:12:59,080
Speaker 2: and the coaching staff probably shares this. I think they

1337
01:12:59,160 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 2: feel from a rep count perspective that they're behind and

1338
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 2: they're playing catch up a little bit. And maybe that's

1339
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:12,200
Speaker 2: a contributing factor to the level of play or lack

1340
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:15,240
Speaker 2: thereof that we have seen in the first two weeks

1341
01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:19,240
Speaker 2: on the preseason game field. So that's a long way

1342
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Speaker 2: of saying they got some catching up to do. They

1343
01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:24,040
Speaker 2: have some things that have to get corrected, and they

1344
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,479
Speaker 2: got to get corrected quick because time is growing short.

1345
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 2: I mean, coach McDermott has even said that time is

1346
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 2: growing short here for them to get all their ducks

1347
01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:35,040
Speaker 2: in a row to be game ready for Week one.

1348
01:13:35,280 --> 01:13:37,320
Speaker 2: A lot of things have to fall into place here

1349
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 2: in a very short period of time. And whether the

1350
01:13:39,560 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 2: injuries are going to allow that timetable to timetable to

1351
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 2: manifest itself remains to be seen. Let's get back to

1352
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:49,240
Speaker 2: the phones and we go to Aaron out in Oregon.

1353
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Speaker 2: What do you got for us?

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Speaker 8: Aaron, Hey, guys, thanks for taking my call. Yeah, that

1355
01:13:54,640 --> 01:13:58,280
Speaker 8: was ugly last night. It is the preseason, but I

1356
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:02,720
Speaker 8: am worried about our depths. I just don't know if

1357
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:07,520
Speaker 8: we've got enough depth at quarterback position, in the defensive secondary,

1358
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:10,840
Speaker 8: you know, because if somebody gets hurt, these are the

1359
01:14:10,880 --> 01:14:13,960
Speaker 8: guys we're going to send out there. And it just

1360
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 8: I mean, I had the game on just in the

1361
01:14:18,160 --> 01:14:20,679
Speaker 8: background as I was doing some work, doing some chores,

1362
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:24,280
Speaker 8: and every time I went to look at it, Tyson

1363
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:27,000
Speaker 8: Badget is carving us up. He's like the love child

1364
01:14:27,040 --> 01:14:31,200
Speaker 8: of Michael Vick and Dan Marino out there. And I

1365
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 8: don't know. I don't know if it's too late to

1366
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:37,120
Speaker 8: add anybody in the secondary or or what, but our

1367
01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 8: depth is a little scary with Dan Jackson and whatnot

1368
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:40,599
Speaker 8: back there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, I get it, Aaron, I would share that concern.

1370
01:14:44,479 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 2: The depth concerns, based on last night's performance, I think

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01:14:48,120 --> 01:14:53,720
Speaker 2: are valid. And they've got some important decisions to make.

1372
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Speaker 2: And I thought coach McDermott was pretty pretty revealing with

1373
01:14:58,920 --> 01:15:02,080
Speaker 2: what he said last night. And he basically said, and

1374
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,439
Speaker 2: I'm paraphrasing to some degree, said we have to figure

1375
01:15:05,439 --> 01:15:09,519
Speaker 2: out who can help us what we have and what

1376
01:15:09,720 --> 01:15:14,400
Speaker 2: we still need, which completely leaves the door open for

1377
01:15:14,479 --> 01:15:16,720
Speaker 2: picking guys up off the waiver wire that they think

1378
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:20,000
Speaker 2: make them a better football club. I think it's been

1379
01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:26,000
Speaker 2: clearly outlined in the first two preseason games that the

1380
01:15:26,000 --> 01:15:31,680
Speaker 2: Bills do not have enough corners who can consistently execute

1381
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,920
Speaker 2: in man coverage calls. Because the one thing that you

1382
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: can evaluate in the preseason is one on one matchups,

1383
01:15:39,680 --> 01:15:42,479
Speaker 2: and the Bills I think wanted to investigate to see

1384
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,160
Speaker 2: if the talent they had was capable of playing man

1385
01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:49,080
Speaker 2: coverage on a relatively regular basis. Because I think they

1386
01:15:49,160 --> 01:15:51,479
Speaker 2: want to play more. They wanted to play more of

1387
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,559
Speaker 2: that this season on the defensive side of the ball.

1388
01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:57,519
Speaker 2: Ryan Nielsen, the senior defensive assistant. He is a man

1389
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,000
Speaker 2: coverage guy from his days in Jacksonville's defensive coordinator. I

1390
01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:08,040
Speaker 2: think there was a there was a concerted effort to

1391
01:16:08,200 --> 01:16:13,080
Speaker 2: try to implement more man coverage calls on the defensive

1392
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,120
Speaker 2: side of the ball this year. If the first two

1393
01:16:15,160 --> 01:16:20,080
Speaker 2: preseason games are any indication, they are lacking depth of

1394
01:16:20,120 --> 01:16:24,240
Speaker 2: that skill to play in this defense. They don't have

1395
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,320
Speaker 2: enough guys that can do it right now. Either a

1396
01:16:26,479 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 2: because of inexperience or B. They're just not man cover corners.

1397
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:34,400
Speaker 2: They're just not So they've got to figure that out,

1398
01:16:35,880 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 2: and they may have to make some of the moves

1399
01:16:39,400 --> 01:16:44,360
Speaker 2: that coach McDermott hinted at, if that's still on the agenda,

1400
01:16:44,640 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 2: If it's still on the agenda to say, hey, look,

1401
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 2: we said we wanted to make more man coverage calls

1402
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 2: within the scope of our defense through the course of

1403
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:55,040
Speaker 2: this seventeen game regular season, and by golly, we're gonna

1404
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 2: do it. They're gonna have to find a couple of

1405
01:16:57,560 --> 01:16:59,600
Speaker 2: more horses because I don't think there are enough on

1406
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:03,760
Speaker 2: the roster right now to execute that plan. If that

1407
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,600
Speaker 2: is in fact still the plan now, they may reassess,

1408
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:10,439
Speaker 2: look at the practice tape, the preseason game tape and say, look,

1409
01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,960
Speaker 2: we probably only got two maybe three guys that can

1410
01:17:14,000 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 2: execute man coverage calls at all time. So if we

1411
01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:19,719
Speaker 2: have a couple of injuries, how much are we willing

1412
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 2: to shift our strategy defensively and can we still win

1413
01:17:23,400 --> 01:17:26,639
Speaker 2: that way? These are the things that they're going through

1414
01:17:26,640 --> 01:17:29,519
Speaker 2: and evaluating based on the guys they have now, and

1415
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:31,880
Speaker 2: if they don't think they can undergo that kind of

1416
01:17:31,880 --> 01:17:33,840
Speaker 2: a change mid season, if they have two or three

1417
01:17:33,840 --> 01:17:35,920
Speaker 2: injuries because they don't have the horses. They got to

1418
01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 2: get new horses, even at this lage state of the game,

1419
01:17:39,000 --> 01:17:40,479
Speaker 2: they got to get more horses. So they're gonna be

1420
01:17:40,560 --> 01:17:43,879
Speaker 2: combing the waiver wire potentially looking for man cover corners.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, that's it. They're gonna They're going to try

1422
01:17:49,320 --> 01:17:55,480
Speaker 3: and get as many players and probably upgrade their athleticism

1423
01:17:55,560 --> 01:17:58,120
Speaker 3: as much as they can. Certainly Max Harriston is an

1424
01:17:58,360 --> 01:18:01,600
Speaker 3: candidate for that, and I would think with Benford, Harriston

1425
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:03,840
Speaker 3: and Taron Johnson on the field, you'd feel pretty good

1426
01:18:03,840 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 3: about your ability to stay with people and past that.

1427
01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:11,920
Speaker 3: Maybe not, but that's where every team is. Not too

1428
01:18:11,920 --> 01:18:14,120
Speaker 3: many teams have five good corners, you know.

1429
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Speaker 2: And I think there's potential with a guy like Dorian

1430
01:18:16,800 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: Strong Steve right, but the inexperience has coaches a little leader,

1431
01:18:20,960 --> 01:18:21,479
Speaker 2: right because.

1432
01:18:21,320 --> 01:18:26,240
Speaker 3: You just don't know, you know, with Tredavious and well

1433
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:30,240
Speaker 3: with tarn, with Christian and with Max, you kind of

1434
01:18:30,240 --> 01:18:33,080
Speaker 3: feel like you got it, yep. And Tredavious is a

1435
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,200
Speaker 3: guy who maybe in spots could do it and maybe

1436
01:18:36,200 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 3: more than that in a regular season, particularly if he's

1437
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,519
Speaker 3: like the third one instead of the second one. Yeah,

1438
01:18:44,520 --> 01:18:47,120
Speaker 3: then you got a shot at it. But when guys

1439
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:48,760
Speaker 3: started getting injured, then you got to change. But that's

1440
01:18:48,760 --> 01:18:52,000
Speaker 3: the way it is for everybody. You're right that I think,

1441
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,559
Speaker 3: and maybe Sean McDermott did this a little bit like

1442
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,000
Speaker 3: we're doing today. We're getting we got like nine thousand

1443
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,720
Speaker 3: callers here worried about the defensive back she You know,

1444
01:19:01,320 --> 01:19:03,400
Speaker 3: I think Sean McDermott said down last night and said,

1445
01:19:03,439 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: I'm worried about our defensive backs. You know, I think

1446
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,920
Speaker 3: that might be an overreaction. I don't think they're gonna

1447
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,320
Speaker 3: do any knee jerk anything knee jerk, but they're gonna

1448
01:19:12,400 --> 01:19:14,520
Speaker 3: they're gonna evaluate and they're gonna.

1449
01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:17,479
Speaker 2: And the safety situation still muddle too, Steve, because of

1450
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:18,880
Speaker 2: injury more than anything else.

1451
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, Yes, because of injury. Plus when they get guys

1452
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 3: in there one they don't they can't get Taylor Rapp

1453
01:19:25,880 --> 01:19:27,519
Speaker 3: and Cole Bishop on the field at the same time

1454
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:31,240
Speaker 3: without one of them being hurt. It's just it's that

1455
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:35,400
Speaker 3: kind of training camp so far. So if if that

1456
01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:39,559
Speaker 3: doesn't change, yeah, it's gonna get worse, not better. So

1457
01:19:40,760 --> 01:19:43,599
Speaker 3: if they can finally get healthy at that one spot.

1458
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 3: They may be able to sort out some things and

1459
01:19:46,120 --> 01:19:47,680
Speaker 3: find out who and what they could be as a

1460
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:49,679
Speaker 3: defense in the secondary and at safety.

1461
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:53,000
Speaker 2: Yep, let's get back to the phones and to Tim

1462
01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,920
Speaker 2: down in South Carolina. What do you got for us? Tim?

1463
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,840
Speaker 13: Hey, guys, thanks for having me on. I definitely don't

1464
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:03,639
Speaker 13: envy you guys today. I wouldn't any man, but everybody

1465
01:20:03,720 --> 01:20:05,559
Speaker 13: take a deeper after it this preseason at the end

1466
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:06,920
Speaker 13: of the day. But I just wanted to talk about

1467
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:10,439
Speaker 13: a couple of things, and I wanted to start off.

1468
01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,760
Speaker 13: I you know, I'm not too thrilled with where we're

1469
01:20:13,760 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 13: at with with mar Hamlin. I don't know if on

1470
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,800
Speaker 13: my it looks like a total lack of effort or

1471
01:20:20,840 --> 01:20:22,960
Speaker 13: maybe I'm just crazy and it's just, you know, he

1472
01:20:23,000 --> 01:20:25,200
Speaker 13: truly is a backup safety. It's the lack of ability,

1473
01:20:25,600 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 13: but just that mistackle last night, and then couple that

1474
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 13: with you know, his his ability to cover the top

1475
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:34,799
Speaker 13: over that, you know that Jackson dart throw against against

1476
01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:36,559
Speaker 13: the Giants. I don't know, man, I'm just I'm super

1477
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:40,679
Speaker 13: low onto mar Hamlin lately. But I was hoping, Brownie

1478
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 13: that you could comment a little bit on Land and

1479
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 13: Jackson because I was really high on him as a

1480
01:20:43,960 --> 01:20:46,559
Speaker 13: prospect just because of how raw he was. But I

1481
01:20:46,600 --> 01:20:49,240
Speaker 13: really think he's been disappointing so far up into this point.

1482
01:20:49,400 --> 01:20:51,280
Speaker 13: I get that that you know is going to take

1483
01:20:51,280 --> 01:20:52,960
Speaker 13: some time and he's left behind the ears, he's still

1484
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:55,280
Speaker 13: grown into his body all this stuff, but I just

1485
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,719
Speaker 13: really feel like, unfortunately, it seems like his his ceiling

1486
01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,439
Speaker 13: might be aj Epanessa, and I think we're all hoping

1487
01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:03,759
Speaker 13: for a little bit more than that when he got drafted.

1488
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:07,840
Speaker 13: But Tyrrell Shavers did his thing last night again, he

1489
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:11,040
Speaker 13: absolutely deserves to be on a fifty three. I don't

1490
01:21:11,080 --> 01:21:13,599
Speaker 13: think there should be any speculation on that he's good

1491
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,680
Speaker 13: on teams. He's now showing something as a receiver. But

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Speaker 13: I just also wanted to leave the call with a

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01:21:18,560 --> 01:21:22,000
Speaker 13: little bit of optimism here, Like just again, remember it

1494
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:26,400
Speaker 13: is preseason. Steve can can probably say this too. It's

1495
01:21:26,520 --> 01:21:29,240
Speaker 13: very very good sometimes to get completely punched in the mouth.

1496
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:32,760
Speaker 13: But McDermott has a standard there and I do like

1497
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:35,200
Speaker 13: him when he's a little bit fiery. And that six

1498
01:21:35,320 --> 01:21:37,679
Speaker 13: minute or so press conference last night that I heard

1499
01:21:37,840 --> 01:21:41,679
Speaker 13: had me had me like actually happy that he wasn't

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01:21:41,720 --> 01:21:44,160
Speaker 13: just kind of doing coach seek and pushing some things off.

1501
01:21:44,200 --> 01:21:46,920
Speaker 13: So I kind of like, I like what we're probably

1502
01:21:46,920 --> 01:21:48,720
Speaker 13: gonna end up seeing out of him this week. And

1503
01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,479
Speaker 13: just remember too, not every player was absolutely bad last

1504
01:21:52,600 --> 01:21:55,800
Speaker 13: night on every single rep, So there's some teach tape

1505
01:21:55,840 --> 01:21:59,120
Speaker 13: that will come, but also failure and success last night

1506
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:02,240
Speaker 13: did happen. Well, Thanks thanking my call, guys, I appreciate you.

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01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:05,800
Speaker 13: Muscle three. You only got about twenty more minutes.

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01:22:05,960 --> 01:22:08,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, no worries, No worries to him. Thanks for the call.

1509
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:12,160
Speaker 2: That was a good one. I think we all need

1510
01:22:12,200 --> 01:22:18,479
Speaker 2: to remember that Damar Hamlin, at face value on this

1511
01:22:18,720 --> 01:22:24,160
Speaker 2: roster was a backup and the main reason he started

1512
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:27,960
Speaker 2: so many games in twenty twenty three was because Micah

1513
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 2: Hyde was injured. He had a neck injury. And then

1514
01:22:31,080 --> 01:22:36,000
Speaker 2: in twenty twenty four, when Cole Bishop and Mike Cole

1515
01:22:36,000 --> 01:22:39,080
Speaker 2: Bishop was a rookie Mike Edwards was a free agent signee,

1516
01:22:39,800 --> 01:22:43,040
Speaker 2: both of them are injured in training camp. Mike Edwards

1517
01:22:43,120 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 2: turns out to be a bad apple as well, and

1518
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:48,400
Speaker 2: they part ways with him. So now your veteran option

1519
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,160
Speaker 2: that was designed to replace Mikeah Hyde is out the door,

1520
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,599
Speaker 2: and your second round pick who's a rookie is not healthy.

1521
01:22:57,080 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 2: So your third option was Damar Hamlin who started, and

1522
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 2: to his credit he had he offered you a steady presence,

1523
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:11,920
Speaker 2: not spectacular, not playmaking, steady presence and they appreciated that.

1524
01:23:12,479 --> 01:23:16,160
Speaker 2: But he was the third option for a reason because

1525
01:23:16,200 --> 01:23:21,520
Speaker 2: there are some physical limitations to his game. So there's

1526
01:23:21,560 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: an appreciable floor there with Damar, but there isn't a

1527
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:27,559
Speaker 2: super high ceiling. I mean, it's why he was a

1528
01:23:27,560 --> 01:23:30,160
Speaker 2: sixth round pick. I mean we all know this, so

1529
01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:34,320
Speaker 2: that those are just the facts. So to expect more

1530
01:23:34,439 --> 01:23:40,439
Speaker 2: than that tremendous playmaking ability and covering deep half with ease,

1531
01:23:41,439 --> 01:23:43,439
Speaker 2: I don't think is fair to Damar, and I think

1532
01:23:43,479 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 2: it's unrealistic. Is he a great guy to have in

1533
01:23:47,479 --> 01:23:47,960
Speaker 2: the locker room?

1534
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:48,200
Speaker 3: Yes?

1535
01:23:48,280 --> 01:23:50,599
Speaker 2: Is he a fantastic teammate, absolutely? Is he a great

1536
01:23:50,680 --> 01:23:51,200
Speaker 2: human being?

1537
01:23:51,320 --> 01:23:51,519
Speaker 3: Yes?

1538
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,920
Speaker 2: Again, But I think in the grand scheme of things,

1539
01:23:55,960 --> 01:23:57,960
Speaker 2: they drafted Cole Bishop in the second round for a

1540
01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:01,639
Speaker 2: reason to be the heir apparent Micah Hyde. Now, whether

1541
01:24:01,720 --> 01:24:03,840
Speaker 2: that comes to fruition or not remains to be seen,

1542
01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,799
Speaker 2: and Jordan Hancock could factor his way into that equation

1543
01:24:07,960 --> 01:24:09,760
Speaker 2: sooner rather than later. With the way he has been

1544
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:12,000
Speaker 2: playing in the preseason. I think he's been one of

1545
01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:15,120
Speaker 2: the best safeties on the field the entire preseason of

1546
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,880
Speaker 2: anybody on the roster, primarily because he's been on the

1547
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:19,000
Speaker 2: field more than most of them.

1548
01:24:19,439 --> 01:24:22,320
Speaker 3: So and he played he played almost all safety last

1549
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 3: week and the Giants, and he played some last night,

1550
01:24:24,520 --> 01:24:25,519
Speaker 3: and they moved him up.

1551
01:24:25,479 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 2: And he has flashed. He has been noticeable. You have

1552
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,599
Speaker 2: felt his presence on the field. I mean he comes

1553
01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:33,519
Speaker 2: up twenty yards from center field and decks Dante Millier

1554
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:36,000
Speaker 2: three yard Dante Miller three yards over the sideline. The

1555
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:39,479
Speaker 2: Giants game, he comes up and knife into the backfield.

1556
01:24:39,479 --> 01:24:40,880
Speaker 2: I mean in a tackle for no gain and a

1557
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:42,680
Speaker 2: tackle for loss. He's twenty yards from the line of

1558
01:24:42,680 --> 01:24:43,679
Speaker 2: scrimmage at the snap.

1559
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:44,479
Speaker 5: Right.

1560
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,599
Speaker 2: That's playmaking ability. That shows.

1561
01:24:47,720 --> 01:24:51,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, he showed up and well, so we'll see. He

1562
01:24:51,200 --> 01:24:53,400
Speaker 3: comes off the field last night with it might be

1563
01:24:53,439 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 3: the curse of the position for the Bills. The safeties

1564
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 3: are all nicked up and stay nicked up, and as

1565
01:24:57,439 --> 01:24:59,200
Speaker 3: soon as they find a new one that might be good,

1566
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,920
Speaker 3: he gets nicked up. It was just the way it is.

1567
01:25:02,960 --> 01:25:06,880
Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm with Brownie Hancock might figure in to

1568
01:25:06,920 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 3: get on the field a little faster than we thought,

1569
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:13,640
Speaker 3: given the opportunities that he's been given, and don't worry about.

1570
01:25:13,439 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: Land and Jackson yet. It's too premature to do that. Basically,

1571
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:19,480
Speaker 2: what Eric Wood and I had a very good conversation

1572
01:25:19,680 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 2: about Land and Jackson on the run up to kickoff

1573
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,519
Speaker 2: on the broadcast last night, and I thought Eric nailed it.

1574
01:25:25,160 --> 01:25:28,200
Speaker 2: The way Land and Jackson played in the first preseason game,

1575
01:25:28,720 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 2: you could almost see his brain turning, just the wheels spinning,

1576
01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,400
Speaker 2: thinking about so many different things and just knowing Land

1577
01:25:36,439 --> 01:25:40,400
Speaker 2: and Jackson and the way he plays. I think he

1578
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:47,680
Speaker 2: is gobbing up his brain with fear of not executing

1579
01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:52,240
Speaker 2: his assignment. He's thinking too much about his responsibilities and

1580
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,320
Speaker 2: he's not just playing. Now. There were some plays last

1581
01:25:55,400 --> 01:25:59,639
Speaker 2: night where he flashed. You saw him win and then

1582
01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:03,599
Speaker 2: just play. So I think all Land and Jackson needs

1583
01:26:03,680 --> 01:26:06,720
Speaker 2: is reps and you will get much more out of

1584
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:10,320
Speaker 2: him going forward. It's premature to pass judgment on him.

1585
01:26:10,760 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 2: I think the kid just needs reps and you will

1586
01:26:13,080 --> 01:26:15,639
Speaker 2: get a lot more out of him going forward. We've

1587
01:26:15,640 --> 01:26:17,479
Speaker 2: got to take a break here. We'll try to take

1588
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:19,840
Speaker 2: a call or two before we're out for a Monday

1589
01:26:19,960 --> 01:26:22,320
Speaker 2: edition of One Bill's Live, presented by Colid of Health.

1590
01:26:22,320 --> 01:26:37,680
Speaker 2: It's Buffalo Bill's Rating. One segment to go on this

1591
01:26:37,720 --> 01:26:40,120
Speaker 2: Monday edition of One Bills Live. And we've got time

1592
01:26:40,160 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 2: for another phone call, so we go to Sammy in

1593
01:26:42,680 --> 01:26:44,160
Speaker 2: de Pew. What do you got for a semi?

1594
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:51,360
Speaker 14: How you doing good? I've heard a lot of talk

1595
01:26:51,400 --> 01:26:55,720
Speaker 14: about the secondary. I'm wondering to myself after watching them

1596
01:26:56,160 --> 01:27:00,880
Speaker 14: whatever he called that thing yesterday, maybe the defensive line

1597
01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:03,640
Speaker 14: had pride to play in it. The only player I

1598
01:27:03,680 --> 01:27:06,840
Speaker 14: ever saw that even got to the quarterback was numbered

1599
01:27:06,920 --> 01:27:10,200
Speaker 14: ninety four. Who that is?

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01:27:10,200 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 2: I have no idea.

1601
01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 14: They were given free time for everybody back there. It

1602
01:27:14,920 --> 01:27:16,360
Speaker 14: doesn't matter who the quarterback was.

1603
01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:19,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, there is some merit to what you're saying, Sammy,

1604
01:27:19,800 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 2: and I would tend to agree with you. Even coach

1605
01:27:21,680 --> 01:27:24,960
Speaker 2: McDermott addressed it after the game. I mean, the first

1606
01:27:24,960 --> 01:27:29,120
Speaker 2: team offense for the Bears, Caleb Williams was barely impacted

1607
01:27:29,120 --> 01:27:32,400
Speaker 2: by the pass rush, got into a fun and easygoing

1608
01:27:32,479 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 2: rhythm and was just delivering the football at will because

1609
01:27:36,520 --> 01:27:40,080
Speaker 2: there was zero pass pressure, and coach McDermott pointed it out.

1610
01:27:40,720 --> 01:27:44,439
Speaker 2: He said, their first team offense comes out, Caleb Williams

1611
01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:47,040
Speaker 2: has a clean pocket, gets in a rhythm, and now

1612
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:48,439
Speaker 2: that's a problem the rest of the game.

1613
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:53,200
Speaker 3: I'll say this though, Caleb Williams his back foot hit

1614
01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:57,280
Speaker 3: one hitch gone. So unless somebody got beat right away

1615
01:27:57,960 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 3: up front, they weren't going to get there. They were

1616
01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 3: on time, on rhythm. The ball came out just like

1617
01:28:05,280 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 3: it should have, and somebody would have had to fallen

1618
01:28:08,040 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: asleep at the switch for somebody to get down to

1619
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 3: get to him. They also used play action on early

1620
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,280
Speaker 3: downs which worked really well for them and kept the

1621
01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:20,040
Speaker 3: Bills pass rush, you know, kind of taking a false

1622
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:26,519
Speaker 3: step towards the run fake. So yes, you do want

1623
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:30,599
Speaker 3: to get quick pressure from front four. But last night

1624
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:35,519
Speaker 3: it would have been difficulty for anybody to get home

1625
01:28:35,760 --> 01:28:37,640
Speaker 3: as fast as Caleb Williams was able to get rid

1626
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 3: of that football. They had some plays dialed up last

1627
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:43,360
Speaker 3: night where they had some guys running free against coverages.

1628
01:28:43,439 --> 01:28:45,640
Speaker 3: It was it was going to be ugly, and it

1629
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:50,439
Speaker 3: was listen, if Caleb Williams, even after the as good

1630
01:28:50,479 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 3: as he is, first round pick, first pick of the draft,

1631
01:28:53,120 --> 01:28:57,120
Speaker 3: all that's fine. It didn't take too much to look

1632
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 3: good last night, given what he was working with and

1633
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,240
Speaker 3: what the Bills were presenting him.

1634
01:29:01,640 --> 01:29:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah. A couple of final thoughts that came in on

1635
01:29:04,160 --> 01:29:06,559
Speaker 2: the tweet sheet. Jack said a lot in the fact

1636
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:08,519
Speaker 2: in terms of stock he puts in the preseason. I

1637
01:29:08,520 --> 01:29:11,040
Speaker 2: think Reservo line shaky. I don't think Mike White can

1638
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:13,799
Speaker 2: be the backup QB. Also, safeties are a real concern

1639
01:29:14,160 --> 01:29:16,320
Speaker 2: with Rap's help and Bishop looking a little lost. And

1640
01:29:16,320 --> 01:29:19,280
Speaker 2: then finally from QVR, the rest of the team needs

1641
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,320
Speaker 2: game time. Great move by coach. It drives home to

1642
01:29:22,360 --> 01:29:26,479
Speaker 2: everyone who played that they need to up their game.

1643
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:30,560
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sure, words have never been spoken as a

1644
01:29:30,640 --> 01:29:33,200
Speaker 2: rough one. We'll see what the practice week holds this week,

1645
01:29:33,240 --> 01:29:36,479
Speaker 2: because in five short days this team is back on

1646
01:29:36,520 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: the road for their final preseason game at Tampa Bay.

1647
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,719
Speaker 2: That's it for us today. More coming your way tomorrow.

1648
01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 2: We'll see at one