1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:02,080 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobelt Podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:07,480 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show. 4 00:00:07,960 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 2: This is not now from three to six every day 5 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:13,640 Speaker 2: three to six, Conway follows from six to ten. And 6 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:16,680 Speaker 2: if you miss anything on our show, well that's what 7 00:00:16,720 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 2: the podcast is for. John Cobelt Show on demand on 8 00:00:20,000 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 2: the iHeart app I Heeart app, and we're going to 9 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:27,639 Speaker 2: release that shortly after six o'clock. Nick Reiner pleaded not 10 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:33,040 Speaker 2: guilty today to killing his parents, Rob and Michelle Reiner, 11 00:00:33,800 --> 00:00:39,879 Speaker 2: and death penalty is still on the table, said Nathan Hakman. 12 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 2: Everybody expected he not guilty plea, although everybody knows he 13 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 2: really did do it. We're going to talk now to 14 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: Trey Lovell from the Lovell Firm. He's a trial attorney 15 00:00:50,800 --> 00:00:52,879 Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles. Trey, how are you. 16 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 3: I'm doing fine? Happy Monday? 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 2: Oh thank you. This stuff makes me nuts. The whole 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 2: world knows he did it. He walks in there and 19 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 2: says not guilty. And what's going to be the defense 20 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:07,760 Speaker 2: most likely. 21 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 3: Well, you know, this is going to be a very 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:17,400 Speaker 3: complicated trial. It is going to center around his mental capacity, 23 00:01:18,200 --> 00:01:21,119 Speaker 3: his mental state at the time of the purported murder 24 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:24,120 Speaker 3: of the murders, and we're going to go through quite 25 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 3: a few phases. It's not going to be quick. It's 26 00:01:26,760 --> 00:01:28,560 Speaker 3: going to be drawn out. There's gonna be a lot 27 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:30,960 Speaker 3: of experts, and the focus is going to be on 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,080 Speaker 3: his mental conditions. 29 00:01:34,280 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 2: But specifically what mental condition allows for someone to get 30 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: away with a murder like what I mean, Obviously he 31 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: had some kind of mental issue where he could not 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 2: control his anger and his rage over whatever sins he 33 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:53,200 Speaker 2: thought his parents committed. But I mean that wouldn't a 34 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:56,440 Speaker 2: lack of control wouldn't get him off. I mean, are 35 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 2: they going to try to prove he wasn't aware of 36 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: what he was doing. 37 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: No, So his mental stake can be used one of 38 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 3: three different ways. First, it can be used to test 39 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 3: his competence. If, at some point down the road, as 40 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 3: lawyer says, hey, he's not understanding the legal proceedings, he's 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: not able to assist counsel in his defense. He could 42 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,360 Speaker 3: be declared incompetent and at that point the proceedings would stop. 43 00:02:19,400 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 3: He would go to a hospital, they would try to 44 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:24,959 Speaker 3: treat him and regain his competence. A second way it 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: could be used is not guilty by way of insanity. 46 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 3: They could ultimately change the plea to an insanity defense. 47 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 3: That is a complete defense, and basically that's establishing that 48 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:39,079 Speaker 3: he did not understand what he was doing was right 49 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,840 Speaker 3: or wrong, or did not understand the nature of his act, 50 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:46,800 Speaker 3: either through some type of mental sake, schizophrenia, some type 51 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:50,359 Speaker 3: of diagnosis. But that's a very hard defense, but I 52 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:53,080 Speaker 3: anticipate that may be used down the road. And the 53 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 3: third way it can be used is it's called diminished actuality. 54 00:02:57,480 --> 00:03:00,240 Speaker 3: What it means is, at that time he committed the murder, 55 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: he did not form the intent. He was either intoxicated, 56 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 3: he was suffering for some type of mental state that 57 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 3: took away his intent, and that can reduce a first 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:13,079 Speaker 3: degree murdered chart to maths fodder or something like that. 59 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 3: So it's not a defense, but it's a mitigation factor. 60 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 3: So there's a number of ways it can be used. 61 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 2: Hate to be like picky about this, but if a 62 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: guy is pulling the knife back and plunging it into 63 00:03:26,040 --> 00:03:28,799 Speaker 2: his dad and pulling it out and plunging again, pulling 64 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 2: it out and plunging again, well of course there's intent, right, 65 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 2: He's consciously plunging the knife. I don't know how many 66 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 2: times between the two victims, So that this is where 67 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: maybe I'm stupid, but this is where my brain freezes up, like, 68 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 2: how could this not be obvious intent? 69 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: What else would you do with? 70 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 2: What else did you expect to happen if you keep 71 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,040 Speaker 2: plunging a knife into your father and mother. 72 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 3: Well, first and foremost, it's a very hard defense. It's 73 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 3: played it about one percent of the time, and most joys, 74 00:03:57,440 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: you know, don't want to allow the defense. And uh, 75 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 3: because there's not only somebody accountable, But in terms of 76 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:06,240 Speaker 3: what you're saying, what if he thinks he's stabbing a 77 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 3: clown or or or a stuffed animal or something like that, 78 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,440 Speaker 3: we just don't know the mental states. 79 00:04:11,160 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: And how do you prove or disprove any of this. 80 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 2: I mean, he's going to say, yeah, I was, I 81 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 2: was stabbing a stuffed animal, Okay, I mean we don't 82 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: We don't know if he's lying about that or not. 83 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:23,719 Speaker 1: So that's where I get confused. 84 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,599 Speaker 3: Well, that is an excellent question, and it's really through experts. 85 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: It's through side psychiatrists, you know, people that specialize in 86 00:04:32,360 --> 00:04:35,640 Speaker 3: mental health. They evaluate him. The prosecution will have theirs 87 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:38,359 Speaker 3: defense will have theirs. And then oftentimes it's a battle 88 00:04:38,360 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 3: of the experts. You know, the prosecutor say, no, he 89 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 3: was lucid, he knew what he was doing. He's faking it. 90 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 3: Defense is no, you know, at the time, he was schizophrenic, 91 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 3: he was seeing lights, he was seeing you know, things 92 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 3: that he didn't realize it was his parents. I mean, 93 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 3: there could be a number of different things that could 94 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 3: be said, and the basis of it, it's very difficult 95 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 3: to prove. But it's a defense that that that that 96 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 3: criminal penance will use, and in this type of case, 97 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 3: absolutely I would be shocked if they don't try to 98 00:05:07,800 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: go down that road. 99 00:05:09,560 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 2: How often does a form of insanity defense actually work? 100 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 3: Very very infrequently once in a great while. It's probably 101 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,279 Speaker 3: used about one percent of the cases. Uh, and then 102 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 3: its success level is far less. 103 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: You know. 104 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 3: The problem is you get to a jury much like 105 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,040 Speaker 3: the thoughts that that that you're saying right now is 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 3: you know, you know, they want to hold somebody accountable, 107 00:05:34,720 --> 00:05:38,800 Speaker 3: and for somebody to be legally found insane, it's just 108 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: such a high threshold and the potential of faking, get 109 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 3: the potential that it's not real. Uh, you know, trying 110 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,159 Speaker 3: to to to get away from being held accountable for 111 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 3: your actions. That's what a jury really takes very seriously, 112 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: and it's just very most times, it's very it's it's unsuccessful. 113 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:58,800 Speaker 3: At the same time, you know, it is a pathway 114 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 3: to to getting on well. 115 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:04,560 Speaker 2: A schizophrenic I mean, we see them in the streets 116 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,840 Speaker 2: all the time in la and they're talking to imaginary 117 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: people and getting angry with them. If he was having 118 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:15,280 Speaker 2: one of those episodes, does he remember having that episode 119 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 2: or is it a blackout situation after it's over. 120 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,120 Speaker 3: You know, it really depends. It could be either way. Now, 121 00:06:22,160 --> 00:06:27,320 Speaker 3: schizophrenia does not automatically equal insanity. It can be a 122 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:30,880 Speaker 3: factor if somebody is schizophrenic, it could be a factor 123 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 3: into determining whether or not they're insane, but it's not, 124 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 3: you know, a one to one equality. So you know, 125 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: it really depends. You know, his medical history is going 126 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,160 Speaker 3: to be vital. You know the drugs he was on, 127 00:06:43,279 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 3: what his conditions were, what happened at that party, right 128 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 3: before it happened. You know how much time elapsed between 129 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 3: that party, you know, at Conor o'bryan's house and the murder. 130 00:06:55,360 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 3: Did he have time to form intent to plan it 131 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 3: or was he's still under, you know, such an emotional 132 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 3: state that it took away his intent and it was 133 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 3: and it was close in time. You know, there are 134 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 3: so many facts that need to be determined that we 135 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 3: don't know about as the public yet. And how much 136 00:07:15,880 --> 00:07:18,720 Speaker 3: it really goes to whether or not it was it's viable. 137 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:22,320 Speaker 2: Just one more question, how how much of what the psychiatrists, 138 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: how much they were what there what their conclusions will 139 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:29,160 Speaker 2: be based on is is what he tells them? Right, 140 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 2: He's going to tell them a story, whether it's true, 141 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,160 Speaker 2: made up, or remembered in a distorted way in the 142 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 2: midst of schizophrenia. How how do psychiatrists make a determination 143 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 2: when when he has to be the whole source when 144 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 2: it comes to the motivation in the thought process. 145 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 3: Well, these psychiatrists and these forensic experts are top notch. 146 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 3: So you know, this is what they do for a living. 147 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 3: They've been doing it for years. They've written books about it. Uh, 148 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,000 Speaker 3: they get somebody that comes into their office or they're 149 00:07:57,000 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 3: evaluating somebody, you know, who's trying to pull the wool 150 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 3: over their eyes. They're pretty good about betting it out. 151 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: You know, they know the criteriony as they know the basis, 152 00:08:05,800 --> 00:08:08,840 Speaker 3: you know through the medical history, you know on on 153 00:08:08,840 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: on what it's hitting at, and usually they can decipher it. 154 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:15,240 Speaker 3: At the same time, you will have differing opinions. A 155 00:08:16,000 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 3: prosecution psychiatrist is going to have a very different opinion 156 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: than a defense a psychiatrist, and then it's up to 157 00:08:22,080 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 3: a jury decide who's telling the truth. 158 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: All right, Trey Lovell, thank you very much for coming 159 00:08:26,160 --> 00:08:29,400 Speaker 2: on from the level firm here in Los Angeles. Thanks 160 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: for having me all right on the Nick Renter case. 161 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: He pleaded not guilty. Uh, we have well. Gavin Newsom 162 00:08:36,160 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 2: had a real busy weekend and we have a number 163 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 2: of audio clips to play for you. I can't do 164 00:08:43,240 --> 00:08:45,600 Speaker 2: justice in a tease. You'll just have to wait. 165 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,520 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI A 166 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 4: M six forty. 167 00:08:52,960 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: Gavin Newsom. He's got diarrhea of the mouth this weekend. 168 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 2: He's on that stupid book tour. Young man in a her. Now, 169 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,440 Speaker 2: the thing that blew up yesterday was he went to 170 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 2: Atlanta and he's talking to the Atlanta Mayor, Andre Dickens, 171 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: a black man, and he's on stage and he's done 172 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 2: this before. 173 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 1: Now, The crowd has been described as. 174 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 2: Mostly black, mostly white, a mix based on video I've seen. 175 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: I'd call it a mix. 176 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: But it's funny how people who hate newishm says it's 177 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,280 Speaker 2: an all black crowd and he insulted all these people. 178 00:09:35,559 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: Well, there was no. 179 00:09:36,520 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 2: Audible reaction from the crowd that they were being insulted, 180 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 2: and the people who defend nuisance are saying, oh, so 181 00:09:46,880 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: that was a white crowd. You're gonna hear what he 182 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 2: said and something entirely different pisses me off. And it's 183 00:09:56,480 --> 00:10:01,080 Speaker 2: not about the racial insinuations here. He's talking about his 184 00:10:01,280 --> 00:10:03,079 Speaker 2: SAT score. So play cuts six. 185 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,000 Speaker 5: I'm not you know, I'm not trying to impress you. 186 00:10:06,520 --> 00:10:07,960 Speaker 5: I'm just trying to impress upon you. 187 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 6: I'm like you. I'm no better than you. 188 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,600 Speaker 7: You know, I'm a nine to sixty SAT guy. 189 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,360 Speaker 6: H and you know, And. 190 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 7: I'm not trying to offend anyone, you know, trying to 191 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 7: act all there. 192 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 6: If you got nine forty, but. 193 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:30,199 Speaker 7: Literally a nine sixty SAT guy, I cannot you you've 194 00:10:30,280 --> 00:10:34,679 Speaker 7: never seen me read a speech. Because I cannot read 195 00:10:34,840 --> 00:10:39,000 Speaker 7: a speech, maybe the wrong business to be. 196 00:10:41,559 --> 00:10:44,760 Speaker 2: Okay, nine sixty is really low for an SAT score, 197 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: say the top SAT score that you'd get is sixteen hundred. 198 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 2: You get eight hundred on math and eight hundred on 199 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: the on the reading, So nine sixty is really low. 200 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: It's below assage. I want to chat GPT and that 201 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 2: equates to an IQ of between ninety three and ninety. 202 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 7: Seven because I cannot read, and. 203 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:11,840 Speaker 2: He claims he cannot read. So an average IQ dead 204 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: set middle average IQ in the world is one hundred, 205 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 2: So ninety three is well below the average IQ. It's 206 00:11:20,600 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: in the low average category. So I this guy thinks, 207 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 2: he's so desperately trying to confuse the reality that he's 208 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 2: a rich kid, a rich, privileged kid who had most 209 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: of his businesses started by the Getty family, and the 210 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,440 Speaker 2: Getty family were oil billionaires, and so he's trying to 211 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:48,320 Speaker 2: confuse that issue by saying, well, really, I was stupid. 212 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 2: Now I agree he's stupid, because only a stupid person 213 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 2: would spend thirty seven billion dollars over eight years and 214 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 2: end up with more homelessness. 215 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 1: So I give him the point, Yes. 216 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 2: You're stupid, and you have americle proof that you're stupid, 217 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: a nine to sixty IQ. In fact, in another interview, 218 00:12:04,240 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: he's saying is look, look, I only got into college 219 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:09,640 Speaker 2: because of my partial baseball scholarship, which of course his 220 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:11,160 Speaker 2: baseball coaches have disputed. 221 00:12:11,160 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: But all let me greet you that. 222 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 2: My whole point is he's telling us he's so stupid 223 00:12:17,040 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 2: he gotta allows the SAT score, which equates to a 224 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: low IQ score. 225 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 1: And I think that's kind of obvious. 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 2: And you know, he couldn't really get into a college 227 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 2: without an alleged fake baseball scholarship. I'm buying all this fine, 228 00:12:32,679 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 2: but this is how he's selling himself. And then he 229 00:12:35,040 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 2: thinks people in the audience are stupid by the way 230 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:40,319 Speaker 2: he is talking to a black bear. He's in a 231 00:12:40,360 --> 00:12:42,959 Speaker 2: majority black city. There's a lot of black people in the. 232 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 1: Audience, and it's looked like he's saying it's. 233 00:12:45,280 --> 00:12:47,240 Speaker 2: Like, hey, look I can't read either, just like you. 234 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 2: I got a low SAT scorers just like you. Well, 235 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 2: how is this a sales pitch? And then on top 236 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 2: of it, this clip was out, oh, I don't know 237 00:12:56,600 --> 00:13:00,360 Speaker 2: for five minutes, and somebody flagged that he's lying again 238 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 2: because listen to his own podcast. He's talking with Amy 239 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 2: Parnis and Jonathan Allen. They had a book about the 240 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 2: twenty twenty four election. They were his guests, and he 241 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,319 Speaker 2: opened with this. 242 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 5: Amy, Jonathan, thank you so much for taking the time 243 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 5: to be here. You've written the hell of a book. 244 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:21,839 Speaker 5: And I don't say that lightly. I went through it 245 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:25,560 Speaker 5: in a quick hour and a half, almost two hours, 246 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 5: and trust me, I don't read very fast, but it 247 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:30,920 Speaker 5: reads at an unbelievable pace. 248 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: It's so well written. 249 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:34,719 Speaker 5: And of course it's so familiar because I fell a 250 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:37,640 Speaker 5: little bit adjacent so much of the subject matter. But 251 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 5: it's eighteen chapters. It's an impressive piece of work. Two 252 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:44,559 Speaker 5: hundred and sixty three or so pages. 253 00:13:45,600 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 2: So he did two hundred and sixty three pages and 254 00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:52,079 Speaker 2: what an hour and a half. And I don't read fast, 255 00:13:52,480 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 2: but I read fast. And then he tells the group 256 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:05,480 Speaker 2: in Atlanta he doesn't read it all. If you really 257 00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,199 Speaker 2: had dis yeah, you're not reading a two hundred and 258 00:14:08,200 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: sixty three page book in an hour and a half. 259 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: That is a lot of pages, even if you have 260 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 2: normal reading skills. 261 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: Well, oh, really, you don't really read it. 262 00:14:20,320 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 2: He's he's so pathological and compulsive, he really And in 263 00:14:27,960 --> 00:14:31,120 Speaker 2: the in the modern world where everything is recorded and 264 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:36,720 Speaker 2: saved and gets regurgitated, he still keeps doing this. He 265 00:14:37,000 --> 00:14:41,160 Speaker 2: can't control himself. When we come back, he did an 266 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 2: interview with Dana Bash about running for president and about 267 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: California's economy. 268 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 4: You're listening to John cobelts on Demand from KFI A sixty. 269 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 2: On from three to six now and then after six 270 00:14:57,600 --> 00:15:02,200 Speaker 2: the podcast John Cobelt on Demand will be available on 271 00:15:02,240 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 2: the iHeart app. Follow us on at John Cobelt Radio 272 00:15:05,080 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 2: and social media at John Cobelt Radio, and subscribe on 273 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:10,000 Speaker 2: YouTube to our videos. 274 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: We add new videos often during the week. 275 00:15:13,640 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 2: YouTube dot com slash at John Cobelt Show, YouTube dot 276 00:15:17,320 --> 00:15:21,239 Speaker 2: com slash at John Cobelt's show Boy. Just just tracking 277 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:25,600 Speaker 2: all of Gavin Newsom's horse maneuvers like a full time job. 278 00:15:25,840 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 2: So in the last segment, we played your clip where 279 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: he's telling a crowd in Atlanta, talking to a black mare, 280 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 2: a mixed audience, but he's trying to say. 281 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: The message was I'm just like you. 282 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 2: I can't read and I got a low score on 283 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 2: my SAT and everybody jumped on the racial angle. But 284 00:15:48,320 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 2: to me, you're telling everybody you can't read and you 285 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 2: got a low SAT score. You're saying vote for me. 286 00:15:54,840 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 2: I'm stupid. How is that a selling point. What why 287 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 2: would even stupid people don't want another stupid person running things? 288 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 2: But Newsom is trying to relate. He's telling the public. 289 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: It's like, I'm like. 290 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: You, I can't read. 291 00:16:16,520 --> 00:16:19,280 Speaker 2: Well, no, no, actually most people can read the hell 292 00:16:20,520 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: But what's even nuttier is he was on his own 293 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 2: podcast just a few months ago and he had two 294 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 2: authors on and he opened he loved the book they wrote, 295 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,680 Speaker 2: and he said, I read your book in an hour 296 00:16:33,680 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 2: and a half, two hundred and sixty three pages. 297 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: Well, well, I thought you can't read. 298 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,320 Speaker 2: Now you can read two hundred and sixty three pages 299 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,160 Speaker 2: and an hour and a half. 300 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 1: Unbelievable. 301 00:16:43,200 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: But wait, there's more. He goes on with Dana Beash 302 00:16:48,880 --> 00:16:53,680 Speaker 2: on CNN over the weekend and he tells her about 303 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 2: people moving into the state. 304 00:16:58,080 --> 00:16:58,520 Speaker 1: Cut three. 305 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 8: Sorry, California has the highest cost of living in the nation. 306 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 8: The state's prices are eleven percent higher than the national average. 307 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:09,080 Speaker 8: We were actually out to dinner here in Nashville last 308 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 8: night we met a couple from California. They moved out 309 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 8: of California because they couldn't afford the rent or even 310 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 8: to buy a home and also start a family. 311 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had hundreds of thousands of people move in California. 312 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,320 Speaker 6: The last two three years, we've seen population Oka. 313 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:26,359 Speaker 1: Oh, I stepped on that. Roll it back five seconds, and. 314 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 6: Then hundreds of thousands of people move in California. The 315 00:17:29,600 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 6: last two three years, we've seen population growth. As you know, 316 00:17:32,600 --> 00:17:35,040 Speaker 6: we moved from six to the fourth largest economies. 317 00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: Stopped there, Stop there. 318 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 2: Okay, he's had hundreds of thousands of people move into California, 319 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:46,280 Speaker 2: and we've had population growth the last few years. So 320 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:51,120 Speaker 2: I went to check EPT and they use US census numbers, 321 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 2: So follow me here. In twenty twenty, California's population was 322 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 2: thirty nine million, five hundred and thirty eight thousand. In 323 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 2: twenty twenty one, it was thirty nine million, two hundred 324 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:08,480 Speaker 2: and thirty seven thousand. That is a drop, is it not. 325 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 2: He's the governor. That's down three hundred thousand twenty twenty 326 00:18:13,400 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: two thirty nine million, twenty nine thousand. That is a 327 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:21,480 Speaker 2: drop as well, another two hundred thousand. Now it's down 328 00:18:21,480 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 2: a half a million in two years. Wait, there's more. 329 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 2: And by the way, I typed in a request for 330 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 2: how many legal residents are in California. Keep that in mind. 331 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 2: These are legal residents. Twenty twenty three, we had thirty 332 00:18:39,440 --> 00:18:43,520 Speaker 2: eight million, nine hundred and sixty five thousand. Uh oh, 333 00:18:44,160 --> 00:18:51,200 Speaker 2: that is down another fifty thousand or so. Twenty twenty four, 334 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:55,800 Speaker 2: it's down to thirty eight million, nine hundred thousand. 335 00:18:56,800 --> 00:18:57,240 Speaker 1: Wow. 336 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:01,400 Speaker 2: So that's one, two, three, four years in a row 337 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 2: of losses, and now all of a sudden, we have 338 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 2: a million and a half fewer people living here. Now 339 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,880 Speaker 2: play that part of the clip again if you we're 340 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: down a million and a half legal residence in the 341 00:19:16,800 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 2: last five years, one. 342 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 6: Hundreds of thousands people moving California. The last two three years, 343 00:19:20,840 --> 00:19:22,240 Speaker 6: we've seen population growth. 344 00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 2: Complete lie. Of course, what state of Bash's supposed to do. 345 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 2: She's on live television or it's recorded live, and she 346 00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: can't go on her phone and get an AI site 347 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:41,280 Speaker 2: to tell her what the real dubbers are. I'm telling 348 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,439 Speaker 2: you the real numbers. He won a national television on 349 00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:47,840 Speaker 2: CNN and just blatantly lied, just the same way he 350 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,760 Speaker 2: was lying on stage that he couldn't read. But he's 351 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 2: telling authors on this podcast that he can read very fast. Yeah, 352 00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: we lost, we lost a million and a half people 353 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,440 Speaker 2: to five your legal residence. 354 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: That's net. 355 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:08,200 Speaker 2: Now, of course there's always people moving into California, which 356 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 2: is what he was focusing on. But there's lots of 357 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: people leaving California, like that Tennessee couple that Dana Bash referenced. 358 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 1: But he talks really fast and he jumps around. So 359 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 1: let's play. Let's play that whole clip again. 360 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 8: California has the highest cost of living in the nation. 361 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 8: The state's prices are eleven percent higher than the national average. 362 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 8: We were actually out to dinner here in Nashville last 363 00:20:34,280 --> 00:20:37,199 Speaker 8: night we met a couple from California. They moved out 364 00:20:37,240 --> 00:20:39,760 Speaker 8: of California because they couldn't afford the rent or even 365 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 8: to buy a home and also start a family. 366 00:20:42,240 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 6: Yeah, we've had hundreds of thousands people move in California 367 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 6: the last two three years. We've seen population growth. As 368 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,040 Speaker 6: you know, we moved from six to the fourth largest 369 00:20:50,080 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 6: economy in the world, and we dominate now in every 370 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:57,119 Speaker 6: key industry from AI, quantum robotics, we dominate an AG, 371 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 6: we dominate. 372 00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,600 Speaker 1: For street okay, stop stop. 373 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 2: Our economy is heavily heavily overweighted into tech companies. We 374 00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,959 Speaker 2: have the highest poverty in the country, highest poverty rate 375 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 2: in the country. Signing but he points out that we're 376 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 2: dominating in AI, dominating in quantum. Most people don't know 377 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 2: what that is, dominating robotics do things there. I would 378 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 2: say ninety percent, way over ninety percent of the public 379 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,400 Speaker 2: does not work in AI, does not work in quantum, 380 00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 2: does not work in robotics, so that doesn't mean anything 381 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 2: to them. Secondly, things like AI and robotics are going 382 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:50,639 Speaker 2: to be taking away people's jobs more than they're going 383 00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: to be creating jobs. At least, that's the fear that 384 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:57,240 Speaker 2: most normal people have, since nobody can really explain all 385 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 2: this because nobody knows. So he's bragging about industries that 386 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 2: most people do not work in and will never work in. 387 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,439 Speaker 2: And he's bragging about industries where there's a good chance 388 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 2: it will take away their jobs. And he's bragging about 389 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:16,479 Speaker 2: industries that these industries are extremely successful, but they're only 390 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 2: a small piece of the California story because we have 391 00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 2: way way more people in poverty and way way more 392 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,360 Speaker 2: people struggling just to pay the rent or the mortgage 393 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 2: every month. 394 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:30,640 Speaker 1: But you see what he does. 395 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:44,320 Speaker 2: All right, we come back, his shamelessness continues, and Bash 396 00:22:44,400 --> 00:22:47,880 Speaker 2: asked Newsom, what's going to determine whether you run for president. 397 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that when we come back. 398 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 399 00:22:55,600 --> 00:22:56,160 Speaker 4: six forty. 400 00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:01,480 Speaker 2: The California Democratic Party had a gathering in San Francisco. 401 00:23:01,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 2: Their main topic a lot of candidates were given their pitches, 402 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 2: was affordability. We're gonna have John Fleischmann on. He is 403 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: a writer and commentator, so does itmatter? Dot com is 404 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: his website because all the all the economic numbers, we're 405 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,399 Speaker 2: off the charts in California in terms of how expensive 406 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:30,920 Speaker 2: everything is. And we've got we've had full Democratic run 407 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 2: now for fifteen solid years, and we're at the top 408 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 2: of the charts in costs across the board. And they 409 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:45,560 Speaker 2: had a convention discussing affordability. Yeah, they really did. Let's 410 00:23:45,600 --> 00:23:50,399 Speaker 2: go back to Dana Bash from CNN with Newsom. All right, 411 00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:54,199 Speaker 2: here's this question about what's going to determine whether you 412 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,200 Speaker 2: run for president. Well, he is already running for president, 413 00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:57,800 Speaker 2: but go ahead. 414 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 8: What are the metrics that will determine whether you run 415 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 8: for president? 416 00:24:03,000 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 6: There's five of them. Dutch, Brooklyn Hunter, you get the 417 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:12,359 Speaker 6: drive to help you name you don't, But the biggest 418 00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 6: one is Jennifer so it's gonna look at this book 419 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 6: was dedicated to them. I wish there's a book my 420 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 6: parents wrote. 421 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 3: Do they want you to run? 422 00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 6: And that's going to be that's I don't know. It 423 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 6: depends on the day. And my son wrote me it 424 00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 6: was very powerful. Texted me a few months ago when 425 00:24:28,240 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 6: there was some headline that suggested that I made some decision, 426 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:34,040 Speaker 6: and he goes, Dad, are you running president? I said no, 427 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:38,159 Speaker 6: we'll do the decision as a family. He goes, you can't. 428 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 6: I said why? He goes, I'm too young. You need 429 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,359 Speaker 6: to spend more time with us. I mean, how do 430 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,480 Speaker 6: you deal with that one? I screenshot it. I still 431 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 6: have had my phone. 432 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:46,719 Speaker 1: I'd show you. 433 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,440 Speaker 5: I do deal with that one exactly. 434 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 6: I'm asking you, come. 435 00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 8: On, I'm not running for president. 436 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 1: That's the point, and the point is the point. 437 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 6: And so. 438 00:24:58,400 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 1: The point is the point. 439 00:25:02,280 --> 00:25:04,520 Speaker 3: That's the point, and the point is the point. 440 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 2: But right now he's not with them, he's on a 441 00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 2: book tour. You don't have to go out on a 442 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 2: book tour. You can stay home. 443 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: The point. 444 00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:20,560 Speaker 2: You don't have to go to Atlanta and pander tou 445 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 2: tou black voters by claiming you have a low sat 446 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,200 Speaker 2: score and you can't read just like them, You're gonna 447 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,399 Speaker 2: stay at home with your kids? 448 00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: Do they? I wonder does family realize it's full of it? 449 00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: And the point is the point? 450 00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew what our parents really were 451 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 2: like right by time we hit double digits. 452 00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:48,080 Speaker 1: We knew. My kids think, I'm amazing, amazing what? And 453 00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:51,119 Speaker 1: then the point is the point I say that to 454 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:51,679 Speaker 1: them often. 455 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:59,239 Speaker 2: All right, play cut five here, this is all right, 456 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: this is news. I'm saying that the Democrats need to 457 00:26:02,160 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 2: be more normal. 458 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,679 Speaker 6: The prison of purely politics. There's no doubt that the 459 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,240 Speaker 6: Democratic Party needs to be Dare I say more culturally normal? 460 00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:13,359 Speaker 6: I believe that. 461 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: Stop. Stop. 462 00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:21,040 Speaker 2: He signed a law that allows men and boys to 463 00:26:21,119 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 2: complete to compete in women's in girls' sports in college 464 00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:26,520 Speaker 2: and high school. 465 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 1: He signed that law. 466 00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,880 Speaker 2: But he's saying the Democratic Party needs to be more 467 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 2: culturally normal. 468 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: For the first I. 469 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,880 Speaker 2: Don't know one hundred thousand years that human beings roam 470 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 2: the planet. Everybody going back to cave days knew who 471 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 2: the guy was and knew who the girl was, and 472 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,159 Speaker 2: knew the reasons they needed to be separated. 473 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: You never had to articulate this. 474 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 2: It cracks me up for like the last ten years 475 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 2: when I hear people publicly explaining why men and women 476 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:59,400 Speaker 2: are different, or why it's unfair to say that men 477 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:01,399 Speaker 2: and women are doing different, and every time I go, 478 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,159 Speaker 2: my god, what a bizarre time we're in. But he 479 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,840 Speaker 2: wants the Democrats to be culturally normal. Well, you ought 480 00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:14,160 Speaker 2: to repeal your own stupid law. Got one more clip 481 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:20,600 Speaker 2: to play. This is Scott Dessant, the Treasury secretary, and 482 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,280 Speaker 2: he's got Newsom's number. 483 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 9: Gavin Newsom, one thing I'll tell you if you want 484 00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 9: to go back to boxing. 485 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:28,359 Speaker 1: That guy cannot take a punch. 486 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,600 Speaker 3: What do you mean? 487 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,680 Speaker 9: He likes to dish it out, but you push back 488 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 9: on him and he gets completely flustered. I mean it 489 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,040 Speaker 9: is you bark at him and he class jaw clap clap, 490 00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 9: class jaw, and I think like slow brain. 491 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, well and he got a ninety three IQ. 492 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: Yeah it's pretty slow. And I noticed that about him. 493 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know, probably six seven years ago, his 494 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: first year or two when he was governor, and I'll 495 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 2: remember he had a little gaggle of press people around. 496 00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: I think he was in Fresno. I don't know what 497 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 1: the issue was. 498 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: So they were gathered around in him and one reporter 499 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 2: and there was a female reporter Fresno TV asked him 500 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 2: a really hard question. Uh, and and hardly anybody had 501 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:14,520 Speaker 2: done that, because at that time, you know, he was untouchable. 502 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: Golden boy just saw handsome and she hits him with 503 00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 2: a real hard one, and he know what to say 504 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 2: because he's not trained in being attacked. And he's like 505 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,440 Speaker 2: at that that that that that that that that that. 506 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 2: You know, he's just a babbling fool. And I noticed 507 00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 2: after that he rarely was in those situations. And uh, 508 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,000 Speaker 2: because he can't think on his feet, he can't respond well. 509 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: I saw that when he debated Ron DeSantis on Sean 510 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 2: Hannity's show. He he had no response to all the 511 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: damning facts about California. He just tried to talk over 512 00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 2: the top of everybody and just constantly lie and deny everything. 513 00:28:59,080 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 2: All Right, we've got and we come back. John Fleischman 514 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: on on the Wacky Democratic Party having their big conference 515 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. They were supposed to endorse candidates and 516 00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 2: their main issue is affordability. Ge why is California so expensive? 517 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 2: Who's been running the place for fifteen years straight? Deborah 518 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:23,720 Speaker 2: Mark live the KFI twenty four hour Newsroom. You've been 519 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,440 Speaker 2: listening to the John Cobelt Show podcast. You can always 520 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: hear the show live on KFI Am six forty from 521 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 2: three to six pm every Monday through Friday, and of 522 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:34,720 Speaker 2: course anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio 523 00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:38,920 Speaker 4: App KFI Am six more stimulating talk