1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: M from grandmothers who whispered in their baby girl ill 2 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,920 Speaker 1: two fathers on dimly lit street corners, instructing young soldiers 3 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:20,959 Speaker 1: to always keep their eyes open. You be queen, you 4 00:00:21,040 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: were fired. You will pass through centuries on the hands 5 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 1: of your daughters. They called you wisdom. Proverbs on the 6 00:00:28,760 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: backs of diamond eyed school children who grew into hymnals 7 00:00:32,320 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: recited by amethyst holding urban philosophers who recited neighborhood commandments 8 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: out of the windows of restored ALCHEMYO chariots to keep 9 00:00:40,680 --> 00:00:46,040 Speaker 1: the warmth of their blood. Be wise, be smart, being black, 10 00:00:46,080 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 1: opal Brown courts, bloodstone and prayer. Be every form of 11 00:00:50,880 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: jim see king told, scribe, scribe, told son, son, told wife, 12 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:00,360 Speaker 1: wife told her daughter, and daughter told the ass is. 13 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: And the ancestors told me that you would come to 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: give wisdom. Thousands. They said you would come dropping Dropping 15 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: the Gem. Welcome back. This is the Dropping Gems Podcast. 16 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: I'm your host, DeBie Brown. And as you may be 17 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: able to tell already, UM, I have a cold, so 18 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,919 Speaker 1: my voice is a little crazy. UM. I'm the mom 19 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: of a four year old to just turn four year old. 20 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: And for any parents that are listening to you, when 21 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:38,959 Speaker 1: your kid is in school, you catch every preschool germ, 22 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:43,080 Speaker 1: cold bug that those little babies have to offer. So 23 00:01:43,400 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 1: this was my week to get that. It's been really 24 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: interesting not having a voice, but here I am and 25 00:01:49,800 --> 00:01:52,840 Speaker 1: here we are, and for this episode of Dropping Gems, 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to share with you more of my 27 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: work that you can connect with. So, as many of 28 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: you already know, I serve as the Chief Impact Officer 29 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: at Chopra Global and choper Global is an incredible spirituality 30 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: mindfulness company that has been a leader in the space 31 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 1: for many, many decades. We have some incredible global retreats 32 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 1: and events, incredible teacher certification programs UM and it's all 33 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 1: based on the life's work of Dr d Pak Chopra Ebo. 34 00:02:22,960 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: Chobra changed my life and the way that I first 35 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: found the journey of meditation was the Chopra's Center and 36 00:02:31,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Speaker 1: going on my first retreat with them over ten years ago, 37 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,040 Speaker 1: everything in my life changed for the better. So it's 38 00:02:39,200 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: such an honor to be full circle and working with 39 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 1: the company the last two years and really expanding our reach, 40 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: expanding our audience UM, diversifying wellness in so many ways. 41 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: It is beautiful, beautiful UM and something I'm excited to 42 00:02:56,600 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: share with you today is we launched at the top 43 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 1: of the year program called Journey to well Being Chop. 44 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:06,519 Speaker 1: So we have an amazing app that I lead daily 45 00:03:06,560 --> 00:03:11,640 Speaker 1: meditation on and there's so many gorgeous meditations and quizzes 46 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: and tools for mindfulness and well being. So Journey to 47 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,680 Speaker 1: Well Being is a one year program where every month 48 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 1: we have a special guest that is focusing on teaching 49 00:03:22,560 --> 00:03:26,080 Speaker 1: a different concept or on bringing you some piece, some 50 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: deepening of an awareness around different categories. And so the 51 00:03:30,520 --> 00:03:35,160 Speaker 1: month of May, I am your guide. So I'm the 52 00:03:35,160 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: host for May, and we are focused on work, specifically 53 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,200 Speaker 1: coming back into the workplace, reimagining ourselves, the new version 54 00:03:45,200 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: of us and who we became in the pandemic, and 55 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: then really being able to live these SCons of us 56 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: in every capacity, including in the workplace. So I lead 57 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: a six part meditation series with an app dedicated to this. 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: It's so beautiful. And we also have a workbook that's 59 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 1: available where I guide you through different journal prompts, different 60 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:10,360 Speaker 1: thought processes, and specifically in this series, we're connecting to 61 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 1: not just work in terms of our purpose and the 62 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,600 Speaker 1: way to show up. So that's a big part of it. 63 00:04:15,720 --> 00:04:18,800 Speaker 1: But we're also speaking to ways that we can really 64 00:04:18,960 --> 00:04:23,440 Speaker 1: honor and command our well being. So this will also 65 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,960 Speaker 1: include ways that you can advocate for yourself at work, 66 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: ways that you can really prioritize your well being not 67 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: just when you're off the clock, but while you're there, 68 00:04:33,760 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 1: and also really specific ways that you can set boundaries 69 00:04:38,800 --> 00:04:43,760 Speaker 1: for yourself, co workers, for your boss. Yes, we're going 70 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 1: that deep how well being can manifest in our lives 71 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: and in our working space. And I think it's really 72 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,440 Speaker 1: important to be having this conversation now. We never had 73 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: a chance to prioritize our mental or spiritual and our 74 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,599 Speaker 1: emotional health at work. We were caught up in such 75 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:04,240 Speaker 1: a law long system, hundreds of years of the American 76 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: style of the work day or what means. It's a 77 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 1: really beautiful time to challenge that to create spaces that 78 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,719 Speaker 1: are not just more affirming for us so that that's huge, 79 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: but spaces that really honor the fact that we give 80 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:23,920 Speaker 1: the majority of our lives over to what we do 81 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,240 Speaker 1: for work, to provide for ourselves. I'm just so grateful 82 00:05:28,320 --> 00:05:31,240 Speaker 1: to be able to release this program into the world. 83 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:35,279 Speaker 1: Big thank you to Daniel Sneto, someone I have had 84 00:05:35,360 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: on the podcast and they are just absolutely brilliant in 85 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 1: every way for teacher, they're a facilitator, and we both 86 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: work together to create this program. And so I want 87 00:05:47,400 --> 00:05:50,240 Speaker 1: to share with you a conversation that Daniel and I 88 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: had this week at the launch of the program. And 89 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:55,559 Speaker 1: if you'd like to join this program, Journey to well Being, 90 00:05:55,680 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: connect with the month a month of work. Your able 91 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: to get much of this content for free. You can 92 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:06,280 Speaker 1: download our app It's called Chopra in your app store. 93 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:09,080 Speaker 1: Were available on Android and iOS. That is where I 94 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:12,600 Speaker 1: leave daily medication. You can also um find it on 95 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,239 Speaker 1: chopper dot com or just go to my Instagram page 96 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 1: to take a second right now Instagram um at Debbie 97 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: Brown on Instagram and if you click in my Lincoln 98 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 1: Bio really simple, you'll be able to pull up the 99 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:27,520 Speaker 1: Journey to well Being and sign up for my program there. 100 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: So I hope you'll love it. I hope you enjoyed 101 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: this conversation where we really dive deep into what are 102 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the processes that will be boring and what are some 103 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: tools you can right now to create not a work 104 00:06:40,320 --> 00:06:45,320 Speaker 1: life balance, but a life work balance. Positioning your life 105 00:06:45,360 --> 00:06:50,640 Speaker 1: as the most important part of your human experience, So big, thanks, 106 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: take a listen, got some so work at the end. 107 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,880 Speaker 1: Let's just take a moment to transition away from whatever 108 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 1: it was that we were all doing prior to this moment, 109 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:06,280 Speaker 1: to be in space together. If it's comfortable and easeful 110 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,479 Speaker 1: to do so, you're all welcome to close your eyes 111 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: or to just sit in space, softening your gaze a 112 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 1: little bit. We'll just take three full breaths to get 113 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: rounded together. Let's find a nice deep breath in, steady 114 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:26,960 Speaker 1: breath out, maybe taking two more of those at your 115 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: own page. I don't know when you're ready returning to 116 00:07:41,960 --> 00:07:46,960 Speaker 1: our container that we're holding together. Um. For those of 117 00:07:46,960 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: you just arriving today, my name is Daniel, and my 118 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: pronouns are they then, and there's and I am here 119 00:07:52,640 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 1: with Debbie. Um. I'm gonna read a little bit about 120 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:59,480 Speaker 1: Debbie because dev is incredible. So Debbie Brown uh stre's 121 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,160 Speaker 1: as the You Impact Officer at Roper Global and it's 122 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:05,239 Speaker 1: the voice of daily meditation on the Troper Wellness app. 123 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:09,440 Speaker 1: Dettie is a well being educator, author of Crystal Bliss, 124 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:13,080 Speaker 1: founder of Karma Bliss, a founding board member of the 125 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:19,800 Speaker 1: Mental Wealth Alliance post of Black Effect Network podcast Dropping Gens. 126 00:08:19,840 --> 00:08:27,080 Speaker 1: A season broadcaster and multimodality healing practitioner, Detty is awesome 127 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 1: for it's a spiritual connection meant to aid in the 128 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:33,720 Speaker 1: healing of intergenerational trauma and internal liberation. Her work is 129 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,480 Speaker 1: rooted in weaving ancient and modern practices into tangible healing 130 00:08:37,559 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: tools that are in support of emotional growth and radical 131 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: self up. We're in the presence of greatness. Thank you 132 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: for being here, Debbie. I would love to invite your 133 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: voice into this space and to introduce yourself in all 134 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,559 Speaker 1: the incredible ways you show up in this world. Thank 135 00:08:54,600 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: you so much, and thank you for having me. And 136 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 1: it's always like and just I I am such a deep, 137 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: deep admire of your work and all that you bring 138 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: to the world. And so whenever I get to be 139 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: in conversation with you, and I know some people that 140 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,400 Speaker 1: have popped on have been able to be with us 141 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: in community on Clubhouse or previously here, but it is, 142 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: I mean, it is such a deep joy to be 143 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:26,080 Speaker 1: with you today to talk about our journey to well being. Yeah, yeah, 144 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,920 Speaker 1: so it's gonna be so I'm super start to be 145 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: here I'm super excited to always be in conversation with you. 146 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:33,640 Speaker 1: But um, as many of you or some of you 147 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:37,400 Speaker 1: might know, we're doing a Journey to well being and 148 00:09:37,559 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: each month new content comes out that is free for 149 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: the month that aligns to a certain theme. UM And 150 00:09:43,840 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 1: so the Journey to well Being is really unique because 151 00:09:47,080 --> 00:09:50,439 Speaker 1: each month there's an opportunity to connect with a facilitator 152 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,840 Speaker 1: that you might have not connected it before. There's an 153 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to dive into new exploration and topics that you 154 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: might have already explored in kind of a new way. 155 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: And we also have a lot of new resources at Chopra, 156 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: like the workbook that Debbie and I worked on together, 157 00:10:06,720 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: which I'm super excited to talk about. There's the meditations 158 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,080 Speaker 1: on the Chopra app and then there's an article usually 159 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:15,000 Speaker 1: that comes out a line to the theme. And so 160 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 1: if you're not for the to the Journey to well Being, 161 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: I highly highly encourage you to check out the Journey 162 00:10:20,720 --> 00:10:23,839 Speaker 1: to well Being program on the Chopra app. UM. So 163 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: this month, what we're talking about is work. So the 164 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:30,800 Speaker 1: title of the program is called Journey to well Being 165 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 1: Work and something that we have been in conversation about Debbie, 166 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: is how this theme is really present in the world 167 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 1: right now, specifically aligned to UM just the way we're 168 00:10:44,920 --> 00:10:47,960 Speaker 1: moving through workspaces as things change and shift. And so 169 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: I wonder if you would talk a little bit about 170 00:10:51,880 --> 00:10:54,240 Speaker 1: or or share a little bit about your experience of 171 00:10:54,280 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 1: how this program kind of resonates in your world and 172 00:10:57,320 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: how you relate to the content that that's being shared 173 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 1: of this month, you know it, I feel like we're 174 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 1: in such um we're in such a powerful time, and 175 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: we're in such a very important time when it comes 176 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: to the way that we relate to work. I think 177 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: we're in the midst of a shift in a way that, um, 178 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: it's going to change everything about our reality kind of 179 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 1: in society and in our personal lives in a way 180 00:11:25,080 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 1: that hasn't happened in a couple hundred years. Like the 181 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:31,160 Speaker 1: last time there was a real workplace revolution, it was 182 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: closer to the turn of last century. You know, when 183 00:11:33,400 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 1: you think of Harry Henry Ford and you think of 184 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: the the modeling of creating a work day, you know, 185 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: and what the hours for that are and what constitutes work, 186 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: and you think of this kind of more assembly process 187 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,840 Speaker 1: or this in service to a business or corporation, and 188 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:53,080 Speaker 1: that created our structure, and no one, you know, we 189 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: haven't had a chance to really come up for air 190 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: and say, but is this still working for me? You know, 191 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,280 Speaker 1: is this actually working for our society? And I think that, 192 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 1: you know, because of the pandemic and and and the 193 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,640 Speaker 1: space that we were all in for really the last 194 00:12:05,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: two and a half years, coming out of it, having 195 00:12:09,600 --> 00:12:13,559 Speaker 1: had to adapt in so many ways so quickly to 196 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: new experiences, going from for so many working at home too, 197 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,080 Speaker 1: I mean working out in the world to working at home, 198 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: to working at home while you're also in your personal 199 00:12:23,679 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 1: space living your life very oftentimes for some that meant 200 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: being a full time caretaker for your children and still 201 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: trying to have the same amount of output in your 202 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 1: work life. Like I think, there's a lot of questions 203 00:12:35,880 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: that are coming up for a lot of us, and 204 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:41,199 Speaker 1: they have been, but now that we are we've kind 205 00:12:41,200 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 1: of societially decided to move forward. We have this experience 206 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: of people are leaving their jobs at the highest number 207 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: ever in working history. You know, there's this great resignation, 208 00:12:54,520 --> 00:12:58,480 Speaker 1: this this movement for that people are also saying, you know, 209 00:12:58,480 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: what actually worked better? When I'm feeling the most authentic 210 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:04,000 Speaker 1: when I'm in my own space in my house that 211 00:13:04,040 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: I'm able to focus on my work. And then there's 212 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:09,800 Speaker 1: also pressure to return to work, and some people, you know, 213 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: just don't feel ready for that, and that's their choice 214 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 1: that you know they deserve to have. And so there's 215 00:13:16,360 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: just a lot of questions, and there's whenever there's questions present, 216 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: whenever there is the energy of inquiry present, it really 217 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: allows for us to just not just have these paradigm 218 00:13:27,679 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 1: ships we're noticing in the world, but have these deep 219 00:13:30,559 --> 00:13:33,840 Speaker 1: paradigm ships that are happening inside of our bodies that 220 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 1: will affect our family systems for generations. So you know, 221 00:13:37,559 --> 00:13:40,200 Speaker 1: when we um and I just have to say, for 222 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:43,559 Speaker 1: those that have opened it, like, I love the work 223 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:46,480 Speaker 1: we did Daniel on this workbook. I love the work 224 00:13:46,480 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 1: we did. Both of us were committed to going deep. 225 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,960 Speaker 1: You know. I think for a long time to view 226 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: has been like, all right, I gotta figure out a 227 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: work life balance. And you know something you and I 228 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: were really intentional about. We're like, we gotta shift this 229 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,800 Speaker 1: to a life work balance. What is in service to 230 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the soul? What is the service to the being to 231 00:14:07,160 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: the person first and from that viewpoint, we're able to 232 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: then add in the working life and the life of 233 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, whatever ambitions or present or whatever whatever dharma 234 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: is present. Um. So yeah, in this program, I think 235 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,480 Speaker 1: what we're really exploring through the six part meditation series 236 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: and also through the workbook, is how do you get 237 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,000 Speaker 1: to define for yourself what your work life is going 238 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: to feel like that that piece of our lives that 239 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 1: we spend the majority of our lives doing. M Yeah, 240 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:44,080 Speaker 1: there's so much and what you've shared and something that 241 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: you said at the very beginning was we finally haven't 242 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,880 Speaker 1: we haven't had rather a chance to come up for air. 243 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: In you know, work was kind of structured in a 244 00:14:52,920 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 1: certain way in a forty hour work week was accepted 245 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: as the norm, and so somehow over the course of however, 246 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: many decades, that shifted to more like fifty six seventy 247 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: work weeks. And what the pandemic started to do was 248 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 1: kind of shed light on on a work work system 249 00:15:12,440 --> 00:15:14,880 Speaker 1: that never worked for the human first. It was never 250 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: never put us as human beings first. And like you said, 251 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: something that's explored in the Workbook and in the series 252 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:25,960 Speaker 1: the meditation series on the app is how to put 253 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:29,080 Speaker 1: your personhood first, because at the end of the day, 254 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 1: we are all more than our our job title. We 255 00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: are all more than our ability to produce that day. 256 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:39,360 Speaker 1: We are all more than whatever our work is is 257 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:42,120 Speaker 1: telling us that we are. And so something that I 258 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 1: really appreciated about working on this with you was was 259 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: that it wasn't going to be just grazing the surface. 260 00:15:47,640 --> 00:15:48,960 Speaker 1: We were going to go deep and we were going 261 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: to start to ask those really important questions of how 262 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,360 Speaker 1: do I create a life and enter my work in 263 00:15:55,400 --> 00:15:59,600 Speaker 1: when it feels good? And something that you've shared, UM, 264 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you shared here on on Chopra 265 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: uh the I G live sphere, I suppose, but something 266 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:08,680 Speaker 1: that you shared with me that I found really really 267 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: impactful and really powerful is how you in your personal 268 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: life recognized when that shift happened. And I believe it 269 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: happened before the pandemic, right. I know you're working in 270 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: the sphere UM far before, but I'd love to hear 271 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: about what you notice in your life, UM, when you 272 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 1: started to create a person first and your personhood first 273 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: kind of experience in your world and how that shifted 274 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:42,640 Speaker 1: your relationship to your work. Ah, thank you for that question, 275 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: and instantly something came up that I don't think I've 276 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: even expressed before in any way. But to be quite honest, 277 00:16:49,640 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: when I first started shifting too more of self value first, 278 00:16:57,080 --> 00:17:00,120 Speaker 1: more than my value for output or my value in 279 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:05,560 Speaker 1: my titles or the way that I was being perceived, um, instantaneously, 280 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: it actually brought up an immense amount of fear, you know. 281 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:13,160 Speaker 1: But one thing I really want to convey and and 282 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: this this six part meditation series. It's powerful. This workbook 283 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,919 Speaker 1: is powerful. But know that the ease comes after the 284 00:17:20,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: initial excavation. So there might be things that come up 285 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:27,920 Speaker 1: for you as you're listening to this series as you're 286 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: attempting the workbook, because it is so counterintuitive to everything 287 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: that has been ingrained in us our entire lives, and 288 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: everything that has been ingrained in our parents and their parents. 289 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: We are re establishing a way, um, we are creating 290 00:17:49,320 --> 00:17:52,960 Speaker 1: what it is to be in our human expression at 291 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:56,199 Speaker 1: this moment in time. And so there's this comfort us 292 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:59,320 Speaker 1: with everything else. You do something that's new, it's uncomfortable, 293 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 1: you know. As humans biologically like we have this system 294 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 1: and is for predictive response, like being able to kind 295 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 1: of look at things and predict what's next, and that's 296 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 1: how we feel comfortable about attempting new things or stretching ourselves. 297 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 1: So when I started on this journey, even when I left, 298 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,320 Speaker 1: you know, when I when I left my um more 299 00:18:20,359 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 1: traditional workplace for the first time, I left because my 300 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 1: body physically shut down, Like I ended up getting shingles, 301 00:18:27,880 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 1: I ended up having UM, I was losing hair, I 302 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: was in pain, like stress was breaking havoc on my body. 303 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: And even though I knew that to be true and 304 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,680 Speaker 1: I didn't want that, it still took me two years 305 00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,679 Speaker 1: to even feel comfortable in this new ease that I 306 00:18:43,800 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: designed for myself. So there is a period of disarmament 307 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,159 Speaker 1: as we moved through this process of personal growth, as 308 00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 1: we reimagine and create for the first time, like what 309 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:57,360 Speaker 1: our flow of life will be. UM, so grace for that. Everyone, 310 00:18:57,480 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: Just oh like there, even when you're doing have been 311 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 1: good for yourself, even when you are like building the 312 00:19:03,640 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 1: dream life, you're also on programming. You know, you also 313 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: have to unpack so much of what you put on 314 00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,679 Speaker 1: in your beliefs and your systems that is not for 315 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: your highest good, that is no longer true. So just 316 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:17,679 Speaker 1: now is that part starts to come up some of 317 00:19:17,760 --> 00:19:21,919 Speaker 1: the maybe felt anxiety or that maybe felt um. For me, 318 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 1: it brought forward when I when I first moved into 319 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: wellness for time, for full time, it did bring forward 320 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,399 Speaker 1: a lot of anxiety, a lot of depression of trying 321 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: to understand. I know I'm called to live in a 322 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: different way, but trying it on and making it real 323 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:39,800 Speaker 1: and making it true. It's stretching in ways that are 324 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:44,119 Speaker 1: really uncomfortable. UM. But I think that I guess to 325 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,320 Speaker 1: come back, because I'm a long talker. To come back 326 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:51,639 Speaker 1: to answering that question is that, you know, start start 327 00:19:51,680 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 1: with some of the smaller, more tangible pieces. And that's 328 00:19:54,600 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: something we go over in our workbook quite a bit, 329 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 1: which can be you know, for me, when I noticed 330 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 1: the ship needed to to be made, but I wasn't 331 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,080 Speaker 1: ready to leave my career system yet, I just started 332 00:20:05,080 --> 00:20:07,679 Speaker 1: carving out extra time in my work day. So in 333 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:10,040 Speaker 1: my lunch break, I would go sit in my car 334 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: in the garage of the building that I worked at, 335 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:15,359 Speaker 1: and I would try my meditations that I was learning. 336 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:17,840 Speaker 1: You know, I would listen actually to dpox voice and 337 00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: I would put him on the loop in my car 338 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: through the through the system and I would just close 339 00:20:23,080 --> 00:20:25,160 Speaker 1: my eyes and I'd say, I don't know what any 340 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,000 Speaker 1: of this is. I don't really know what it's doing, 341 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,600 Speaker 1: but I'm going to follow it, you know. And I 342 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,080 Speaker 1: just did that day after day. And a few things 343 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 1: that it taught me. One it began to regulate my 344 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: emotional system. I was now equipped with a new tool 345 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: that was given very clear physical response to my body 346 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: that was benefiting me. So I said, Okay, I don't 347 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: always want to do it. It It doesn't always feel natural, 348 00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,160 Speaker 1: but let me keep going, you know. And I think too, 349 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:53,040 Speaker 1: it taught me how to even create time for myself. 350 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 1: Part of the discomfort is that we have been trained 351 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: to deliver, We've been trained to have output. You know. 352 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:02,399 Speaker 1: In the years leading up to the pandemic, let's not 353 00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:06,040 Speaker 1: forget that, for several years we were thrust into a 354 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: new work um, into a new type of work experience 355 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 1: which was actually do more for less money. There was 356 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: a huge wave of layoffs that happened before kind of 357 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,640 Speaker 1: in the pandemic and a lot of industries, and there 358 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 1: was a huge wave of people one person filling two 359 00:21:22,640 --> 00:21:26,400 Speaker 1: to three positions and it was just expected in the norm. 360 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:28,800 Speaker 1: So we had that big build up before we moved 361 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: into the pandemic. And so sometimes even learning how to 362 00:21:33,119 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: create a structure to have time where you don't feel 363 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,120 Speaker 1: bad because you're not doing something, that's the big part 364 00:21:41,119 --> 00:21:43,480 Speaker 1: of the journey too. And so by setting that appointment 365 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: for myself every day in my lunch break, I began, 366 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: I began to teach myself, um, how to feel with 367 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,240 Speaker 1: myself when I wasn't performing, when I wasn't doing, when 368 00:21:55,240 --> 00:22:00,399 Speaker 1: I wasn't filling a role. Yeah, that is so everything 369 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,679 Speaker 1: that you've shared, and so many people are resonating with 370 00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: what you're sharing because because we all have been so 371 00:22:06,920 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: conditioned I think to just be producing and to not 372 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,879 Speaker 1: make appointments with ourselves, to not carve out time and 373 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:18,000 Speaker 1: our schedules for ourselves. And that's what I think this program, 374 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: that's what it really does, is it gives you permission 375 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:25,159 Speaker 1: to make time in your schedule for yourself, because at 376 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: the utmost uh importance is you, and oftentimes, especially during 377 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: you know, nine to five hours specifically, which is considered 378 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: our work day Monday through Friday, we don't um carve 379 00:22:38,040 --> 00:22:41,560 Speaker 1: out time for ourselves simply to be And so I 380 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,120 Speaker 1: think integrating those practices in Like you said, it's something 381 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,000 Speaker 1: that we talked about in the workbook a little bit 382 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: quite a lot actually is space, right, making space for 383 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: yourself and giving yourself that permission because that puts you 384 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: first knowing that you are more than your production and 385 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 1: you are something outside of of that workspere um. Yeah, 386 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: asking in the in the chat, and I would love 387 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,679 Speaker 1: to hear from you on this is how did you 388 00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 1: carve out more time beyond your lunch hour or beyond 389 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,719 Speaker 1: your lunch Yeah, like how did your practice start to 390 00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:21,680 Speaker 1: develop from that space? I love this question. I'm excited 391 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:23,639 Speaker 1: to answer this, and I just want to let everyone 392 00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:26,400 Speaker 1: know for whatever reason, the comments and the questions are 393 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,200 Speaker 1: frozen for me on my screen. So anybody that is 394 00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 1: sharing love, thank you so much. Um. Okay, so I'm 395 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: really even creating a container. And so what I mean 396 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: when I say that, and some might be very familiar 397 00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: with this term, is that I don't actually have to 398 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,800 Speaker 1: fully know what and how I'm going to do in 399 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,040 Speaker 1: my practice, but I commit to the container. I commit 400 00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: to the time there's something that I started doing outside 401 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:58,399 Speaker 1: of work, especially now, I will say, you know, building 402 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 1: our supportive practice. It's always evolving. So some stuff that 403 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,200 Speaker 1: I did at the beginning of my journey is not 404 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: at all what I'm doing now. So I'll speak to 405 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: my my some of my more recent expression of this. 406 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,400 Speaker 1: But you know, I create the container. I say, where 407 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,920 Speaker 1: can I find more time for me? Something that was 408 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:19,400 Speaker 1: really powerful? Um, And this may not be for everyone, 409 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: so take what sleep what doesn't. But I I made 410 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,760 Speaker 1: the choice to really cut television and film completely out 411 00:24:26,760 --> 00:24:28,960 Speaker 1: of my life. And I did that for about two years. 412 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: So the whole time that we were in the pandemic, UM, 413 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,200 Speaker 1: I just took TV off the table for me because 414 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,560 Speaker 1: I knew that that was something that could be a 415 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:40,320 Speaker 1: coping mechanism for me. Whatever I used to be stressed out. 416 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: If I had a really long day, I'd be like, 417 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 1: I just don't want to think, and I would put 418 00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,600 Speaker 1: something on TV just to have ambient noise or just 419 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: to kind of be mindless with. And I needed to 420 00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: create more headspace for myself, UM that that didn't also 421 00:24:55,800 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: include random influences, So I decided to find that extra 422 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 1: I'm also a working mother of a young child, so 423 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,479 Speaker 1: to find that extra time for myself, the time I 424 00:25:06,520 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: would have given to myself before bed with television. I 425 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,040 Speaker 1: decided is my container. So every day for one to 426 00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 1: two hours at the end of my days, when I 427 00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:18,200 Speaker 1: would do a lot of my spiritual practice, I would 428 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 1: just say this is the time I have. I would 429 00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:24,200 Speaker 1: put on really some beautiful instrumentation and then I would 430 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: allow myself to do whatever felt necessary. I was building 431 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:31,720 Speaker 1: my intuition for what my needs were. And so sometimes 432 00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,239 Speaker 1: that can happen by making yourself a real strategy. So 433 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,399 Speaker 1: you can create a roadmap by like holding a paper 434 00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: into four, opening it up, labeling it with like mental, physical, emotional, spiritual, 435 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: you know, homework, self, creativity, whatever are the categories that 436 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,320 Speaker 1: you want to kind of think into, and then we 437 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 1: can keep you a little short list of what can 438 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,600 Speaker 1: I do that feels like fuel for myself? In each 439 00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,679 Speaker 1: category you know what feels serving, and it doesn't have 440 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 1: to always be I am going to commit to that 441 00:26:02,840 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: meditation for thirty minutes to an hour, highly suggest because 442 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: there's nothing more incredible in divine and meditation practice. But 443 00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:13,960 Speaker 1: also it can mean, as you're getting started, I'm going 444 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:18,400 Speaker 1: to commit to sipping my tea or coffee in silence. 445 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,520 Speaker 1: I'm going to commit in that physical category or in 446 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:25,280 Speaker 1: that self category. I'm gonna five fine, five to thirty 447 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: minutes to just take a walk just because, and and 448 00:26:27,880 --> 00:26:31,480 Speaker 1: not walk fast. You know, notice like can I slow down? 449 00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,919 Speaker 1: Am I moving fast? Because That's what I'm used to, 450 00:26:34,680 --> 00:26:38,239 Speaker 1: But is it actually necessary? You know? Um? So when 451 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: I was filling that container for me, what felt really 452 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 1: good is I said, Okay, I have an hour or 453 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,840 Speaker 1: two hours after my my beautiful son is asleep to 454 00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:50,240 Speaker 1: just be with myself. And I use that time to 455 00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: put on a little music, to kind of move my 456 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,399 Speaker 1: body as I wanted to, to to meditate, to always go 457 00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 1: into meditation for me, um, get really still get quiet, 458 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,560 Speaker 1: and then to journal and to just have released the 459 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: thought to just start expressing. Um, to have that t 460 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: that maybe I don't make time for through the rest 461 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: of my day because I'm moving. But I'll make that cup. 462 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 1: I'll drink it slow. Um, I'll be yanga, you know. 463 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: And I your veda, this, this self massage, this luxuriating 464 00:27:18,160 --> 00:27:21,919 Speaker 1: with self. You know, be intentional when you are even 465 00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:24,720 Speaker 1: just doing what you naturally do as a human each day, 466 00:27:24,760 --> 00:27:27,199 Speaker 1: like cleansing your body. Is there a way to be 467 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,479 Speaker 1: more intentional with that? Can you spend more time with 468 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,800 Speaker 1: that body. Can you slow down as your lotioning and 469 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 1: just really say, gosh, I'm grateful that I'm alive. I'm 470 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:40,520 Speaker 1: grateful no matter how you're feeling about the physicality or 471 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:43,880 Speaker 1: the appearance of your body, being grateful that this supports 472 00:27:43,920 --> 00:27:46,919 Speaker 1: my humanity, that this is, you know, the house of 473 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:50,359 Speaker 1: my soul. Can I just connect with that knowing? Um, 474 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: and so so create the container for everyone. It's different 475 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:57,679 Speaker 1: because we all have different responsibilities and experiences. But you 476 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 1: come up with what that amount of time is wearing 477 00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,879 Speaker 1: your day could possibly potentially fit and then make it fun. 478 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to like experiment on yourself, to 479 00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: kind of like put on your scientific hat. What's working? 480 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 1: What is it now? I don't like that that is 481 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: not my jam. I'm like, that's not for my wellness routine. 482 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: Oh but this really is. Or Hey, I found that 483 00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:25,119 Speaker 1: I may not do spirituality in the way that I'm 484 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 1: seeing online, but need closing my eyes and just drawing 485 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:31,239 Speaker 1: in silence and seeing what I make and what that 486 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: means to me. That can be a spiritual practice. Um. 487 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:38,320 Speaker 1: But giving yourself license, giving yourself the freedom to get 488 00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: creative with you and your need, your container is unique. 489 00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,440 Speaker 1: It's unique to you. It's unique to how you want 490 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:55,960 Speaker 1: to do things and how you want to show up 491 00:28:55,960 --> 00:29:00,160 Speaker 1: in the world. And I think that what they ask 492 00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: piece that you shared about that doesn't feel great for 493 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: my wellness practice, but this feels really good. It's like, um, 494 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,400 Speaker 1: we we often label certain things that maybe work for 495 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,840 Speaker 1: someone else and not for us as failure. It's not 496 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:18,200 Speaker 1: necessarily failure. It's all exploration like you shared. So yeah, 497 00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:22,040 Speaker 1: I think these opportunities to create and recreate and rediscover 498 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 1: it reimagine like it's all. It's all so thank you 499 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:31,920 Speaker 1: for naming all of that. It's so beautiful. Um yeah. Yeah, 500 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,080 Speaker 1: and and a lot of this. So one of the 501 00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: one of the sessions in the program is all about 502 00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:40,240 Speaker 1: creativity at work. It's all about learning to be created 503 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: in your work day and what that might look like. 504 00:29:43,080 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: So yeah, I think bringing it back to the program 505 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,840 Speaker 1: on the Chopra app, Um, all of these things that 506 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:55,320 Speaker 1: Debbie Dedie is sharing, this wisdom that just like emanates 507 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,200 Speaker 1: out of you. It's amazing. Um. All of this wisdom 508 00:29:58,280 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: is shared in the program on the app that you 509 00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: can listen to this month. Um. And a lot of 510 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 1: these tools that have been shared are written out in 511 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,080 Speaker 1: the workbook, And I wonder if there's anything that you'd 512 00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: like to specifically talk about in the workbook, um, because 513 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the most powerful and unique 514 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: resources that I've seen Choper offering is this extra tool 515 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 1: that gives people a tangible resource to be able to 516 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 1: use throughout the wellness practice. So is there anything in 517 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,920 Speaker 1: specific lines to the workbook that really stood out to 518 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:35,000 Speaker 1: you or that you're really excited about offering? Oh my gosh, 519 00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: the whole workbook. Honestly, like I wasn't even look for 520 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:41,800 Speaker 1: everyone watching, just like a little kind of behind the 521 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,960 Speaker 1: scenes for you. Daniel and I were in fold to 522 00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 1: light like craftiness workbooks were like what else would feel 523 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,800 Speaker 1: so amazing? What do we wish we could have known? 524 00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,959 Speaker 1: You know? It was just like it was such a 525 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 1: beautiful opportunity to create this space. Um. Do you know what? 526 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: It's something that really something that I feel so proud 527 00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: about about this workbook is a lot of the depth 528 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,840 Speaker 1: that we're getting in some of our journal prompting. So 529 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: we do share quite a bit of self inquiry in 530 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: this workbook, and you know, we're we're going sometimes into 531 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:21,480 Speaker 1: the depths of like how am I experiencing myself at work? 532 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,760 Speaker 1: And what ways am I supported and not supported at work? 533 00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:28,440 Speaker 1: And then how do I come into choice in that space? 534 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: You know something that I think um, that I think 535 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,640 Speaker 1: about quite a bit, that you know, I would love 536 00:31:35,680 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: to share as something to hold as you're in your 537 00:31:38,360 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: workspace and even if there are triggers coming up in 538 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: what this new transition in this new world and this 539 00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: new life look like. Is as with everything else in life, 540 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:52,880 Speaker 1: like our work life is part of our spiritual journey, 541 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,000 Speaker 1: the way we react the experiences that we're having. There's 542 00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:58,880 Speaker 1: always opportunity. So even if you think of some of 543 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: the dramas at work, some of the ways that you're 544 00:32:01,640 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: in discord with the people that you work with or 545 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,320 Speaker 1: your boss, or the way that things are happening, it's 546 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: so important to kind of put on a spiritual lens 547 00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,680 Speaker 1: and say, is there anywhere else in my life? I 548 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:16,680 Speaker 1: know this this pattern? Is there anywhere else in my life? 549 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: Like this is just a work thing. When did I 550 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: first feel this way? Interacting with people? You know, it 551 00:32:23,200 --> 00:32:25,520 Speaker 1: helps take some of the charge out because it is 552 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: easy for us, especially as work growing, to come into 553 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,640 Speaker 1: judgment of others. Um, you know, there is this experience 554 00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: and we've all felt it at different times. I'm doing 555 00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: the work on myself. Why can't you just do your work? 556 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:39,480 Speaker 1: Why can't you like come on, Like, we're all in 557 00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,240 Speaker 1: different paths, and we all have different paths. We all 558 00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 1: have different things that have happened to us or that 559 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 1: we've experienced that sometimes no one will ever know about 560 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: that shape who we are in the workplace, that shape 561 00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:56,160 Speaker 1: who we are at home. And so you know, the 562 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:59,280 Speaker 1: more that we can turn that gaze inward, the more 563 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 1: how we're able to emanate in ourselves, and the more 564 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,760 Speaker 1: um space we're able to come into in ourselves for 565 00:33:07,880 --> 00:33:11,800 Speaker 1: what is actually aligned for us, you know. And and 566 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,480 Speaker 1: also sometimes that does mean finding new workplaces. Sometimes that 567 00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: does mean like you know, not always making the people 568 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: that we work with our pseudo family or pseudo friends, 569 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,680 Speaker 1: like really filling our lives with that need and that 570 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: longing and other ways. Um. So there's so many things 571 00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: to explore, and for each of us it's unique. But 572 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,520 Speaker 1: I think in our workbook, like a lot of that 573 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: journal prompting that we offer a lot of that I'll 574 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: just be in flow with. Yeah, Yeah, it's really, it's 575 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: a really robust work book. Um. Yeah, there's there's uh 576 00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: something that you shared that is reflective. A lot of 577 00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: the content offered this month, And someone asked, is the 578 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: is the app itself free? The content for Journey to 579 00:33:57,640 --> 00:33:59,840 Speaker 1: well Being is free for the month, and so this 580 00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,280 Speaker 1: month Journey to well Being work with Debby Brown is free, 581 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:05,640 Speaker 1: So you can sign up for the app and practice that. 582 00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:08,320 Speaker 1: Next month there will be another program with a different 583 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,080 Speaker 1: theme and so on and so forth. Um. But specific 584 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: in regards to this, the reason that this Journey to 585 00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,359 Speaker 1: well Being is really expansive is because it hits kind 586 00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:20,359 Speaker 1: of all the facets of our lives and some so 587 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:23,359 Speaker 1: often our work is separate or seen as separate from 588 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:26,080 Speaker 1: our spiritual practice. But like you just mentioned, Deabtie, our 589 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,400 Speaker 1: work is part of our spiritual practice. Whether our work 590 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: is in a spiritual realm or not. Whether you're a 591 00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: meditation teacher or you work in an office setting somewhere 592 00:34:36,440 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 1: or our corporate setting somewhere, your work is your spiritual 593 00:34:40,040 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 1: practice because we are multifaceted beings all of the time. 594 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 1: And so I think that I think that that is 595 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: really highlighted in this workbook, in this program um, so, yeah, 596 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: thank you for sharing that. And I'm recognizing the time 597 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,000 Speaker 1: is for thirty and so or four thirty from me 598 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,120 Speaker 1: one for you. I don't know where else anyone is 599 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:03,919 Speaker 1: the world, but I would love to hear if there's 600 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,720 Speaker 1: anything else you'd like to share before I give folks 601 00:35:07,719 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 1: an opportunity to connect with the app. Um, anything else 602 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,720 Speaker 1: that's coming up for you regarding this program or anything 603 00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:18,680 Speaker 1: that's on your heart. Mm hmm yeah, I think you know, 604 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: give yourself permission to even move slowly through this. And 605 00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 1: so this month May we are focused on work and 606 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:30,400 Speaker 1: the journey to well being, and so that is the 607 00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: information that we're sharing in this container of May. But 608 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: it's also something that you can hold onto as you 609 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,160 Speaker 1: download this workbook, as you listen to the meditations, they'll 610 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,759 Speaker 1: continue to be available, and so start taking notes now. 611 00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 1: And and it's not necessarily by the end of the 612 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: month that you're going to come into this new way being. 613 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: We're starting that internal dialogue with you, we're starting that 614 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:57,279 Speaker 1: conversation that practice, but you don't have to race through it, 615 00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,480 Speaker 1: and you don't have to idealize a profess action at 616 00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: the end or a whole new way of being at 617 00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: the end the seed is being planned, if the awareness 618 00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:08,920 Speaker 1: is coming in, give yourself grace, go gently, but keep going, 619 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: you know, and work with this workbook. Maybe over the 620 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: next year, you know, maybe begin some some of the 621 00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:18,800 Speaker 1: inquiry now and the next month to do it again 622 00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 1: and see if there's something new that's come up. But 623 00:36:21,560 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: you're not on a race. You cannot get this right 624 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:28,359 Speaker 1: or wrong. It's just it. It's all right, you know, 625 00:36:28,480 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: it's all right. However it manifests, so you know, and 626 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: if there's moments in this in this process, because we 627 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,319 Speaker 1: did really intentionally go a little bit deeper with this one, 628 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,839 Speaker 1: you know, so if there is any charge coming up, 629 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:45,000 Speaker 1: or if there is you know, a moment, you need 630 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:48,280 Speaker 1: to give yourself to really process and and and allow 631 00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: yourself the dignity of your individual process. Do that too, 632 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: Take breaks, move slowly, keep going. Wow, thank you for 633 00:36:57,560 --> 00:37:02,720 Speaker 1: that reminder. It's so important, especially in the grand scheme. 634 00:37:02,840 --> 00:37:05,800 Speaker 1: It's all always evolving, So thank you for that reminder. 635 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,279 Speaker 1: I think it's like you said, it's always going to 636 00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,279 Speaker 1: be available. While it's being that's most present this month 637 00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 1: for for the choper app, It's always going to be 638 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 1: available and so definitely continue your journey at a pace 639 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:21,840 Speaker 1: that feels right for you. Keep revisiting, keep exploring. UM 640 00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:25,719 Speaker 1: you can download the you can get the workbook on 641 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 1: if you sign up for the Journey to well Being, 642 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,759 Speaker 1: it comes through an email for you UM and if 643 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:34,759 Speaker 1: you go to Choper dot com backslash journey, you should 644 00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: be able to access all of the resources for Journey 645 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:40,640 Speaker 1: to well Being. UM. So all that said, I just 646 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 1: wanted to send a big thank you to you, Debbie. 647 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: It's always a joy being in space with you. The 648 00:37:46,280 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 1: Journey to well Being work program is available in the 649 00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:52,279 Speaker 1: Chopra app UM as part of the Journey to well 650 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,880 Speaker 1: Being experienced and if you sign up. I believe the 651 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:58,959 Speaker 1: link is in the bio for Choper if you sign 652 00:37:59,000 --> 00:38:01,439 Speaker 1: up through that, or you can download the Choper app 653 00:38:01,520 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: at your app store and sign up through there. So yeah, 654 00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:09,080 Speaker 1: big love to you, deVie. Thank you so so much 655 00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,480 Speaker 1: for being here and for sharing all of your wisdom. 656 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 1: It is always a joy to be in space with you. 657 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:17,920 Speaker 1: Always grateful for you and always loving me. Daniel, thank 658 00:38:17,960 --> 00:38:21,680 Speaker 1: you so much. Thank you they loved everyone out there, 659 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining today. They good care all right. I 660 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 1: hope you enjoy that amazing conversation I was able to 661 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:37,560 Speaker 1: have with Daniel Senneto. Love Daniel, love what we're doing 662 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:41,120 Speaker 1: at Choprah, love the Journey to well being, and love 663 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,120 Speaker 1: this work program. I am so proud of it. I 664 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: hope you'll connect to it. We try to really go deep. No, 665 00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 1: this is this is for someone that wants to get 666 00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,160 Speaker 1: a little past just you know, maybe some of the 667 00:38:54,200 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: positive thinking and implement real structure to have the change 668 00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: that you deserve to have in your life matter so 669 00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: much more than any title that you possess. And so 670 00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:09,359 Speaker 1: let's position ourselves accordingly that your soul work today is 671 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,320 Speaker 1: connect on the app. Connect on the app, get connected 672 00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920 Speaker 1: to some of the free content that we have available. 673 00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,640 Speaker 1: You'll be able to explore this meditation series it's six 674 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 1: parts on workplace and also download our app. And once again, 675 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,680 Speaker 1: if you go to my Instagram page at Deffie Brown, 676 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,440 Speaker 1: connect there, go to the Lincoln bio. Right in the 677 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: Lincoln bio of my I G page, you'll be able 678 00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,560 Speaker 1: to join my Journey to well be And you can 679 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,680 Speaker 1: also um go to Chopper dot com or go directly 680 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: to the app and sign up. That's Chopra app. In 681 00:39:42,280 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: the iOS store for your iPhone and also available for 682 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:49,520 Speaker 1: and Roy. Thank you so much for joining Big Love 683 00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,279 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna go drink some tea and work on 684 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:57,719 Speaker 1: getting this voice back. Now a stay Hey, find me 685 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: on social Let's connect at evvy Brown that's Twitter and Instagram, 686 00:40:02,440 --> 00:40:05,840 Speaker 1: or go to my website Debbie Brown dot com. And 687 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,880 Speaker 1: if you're listening to the show on Apple Podcasts, please 688 00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: please please don't forget to rate, review, and subscribe and 689 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,799 Speaker 1: send this episode to a friend. Dropping Jims is the 690 00:40:18,800 --> 00:40:21,480 Speaker 1: production of I Heart Radio and The Black Effect Network. 691 00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,239 Speaker 1: It's produced by Jack Quease and me Debbie Brown. For 692 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 1: more podcasts from My Heart Radio, visit the I heart 693 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 1: Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to your 694 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:32,360 Speaker 1: favorite shows.