1 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,320 Speaker 1: Gradients from so Far Stadium and the Toyota Patio for 2 00:00:09,360 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: a special edition of Between the Horns, presented by your 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Southern California Toyota Dealers. I'm JB. Along with my friends 4 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: and colleagues, Ricky Hollywood, Maurice Jones, Drew, and to Marco 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,759 Speaker 1: far As, we previewed the Seahawks and the Rams in 6 00:00:20,880 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: their return to Englewood. December is our month. We found 7 00:00:24,640 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: that out last year. Ricky, how's your week been so far? 8 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: It's been great, nothing crazy. Um. I did get a 9 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: puppy last night, so something great? So something crazy? Um, yeah, 10 00:00:32,680 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 1: it's been good. I haven't slept, but what choice do 11 00:00:36,120 --> 00:00:39,000 Speaker 1: we have to show up and to keep grinding and 12 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: keep working. You know your jackets red right? Yes? Okay, 13 00:00:42,120 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: I didn't know if you were just blurry. I'd like 14 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: to sleep. Yeah, is it? Oh it's I thought that 15 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: was blue, not Seahawks colors. You're fine, Yeah, that's it's fine. Maurice, 16 00:00:49,360 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: can be turned the thermostat up for you. You're doing 17 00:00:51,320 --> 00:00:53,120 Speaker 1: all right over there. I don't know how this is 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 1: gonna go for me, as you know, I don't do 19 00:00:54,680 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 1: well in the cold. Um. I think our listeners might 20 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,240 Speaker 1: know that too, because the last time we were in 21 00:00:59,280 --> 00:01:00,960 Speaker 1: London it was pretty cold and we talked about it 22 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,720 Speaker 1: the whole broadcast. So I'm gonna do my best for 23 00:01:03,760 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 1: you guys. DeMarco. It's up lots of space. So if 24 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 1: we want to do some football demos, Murrays, No, Ricky, 25 00:01:09,920 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: we can go right here. Three point stance, No, yeah, 26 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:16,840 Speaker 1: tacking us. Come on, Maurice, Uh, your choice here. We 27 00:01:16,840 --> 00:01:18,800 Speaker 1: can start with the Seahawks. We can start with Bobby 28 00:01:18,840 --> 00:01:21,840 Speaker 1: Wagner facing the franchise for which he became a Hall 29 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 1: of Famer. We can start with the Ram's quarterback situation. Draw. Wow, 30 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:28,440 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner playing Seattle for the first time. Um, that's 31 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: gotta be emotional. I mean he is tied to the 32 00:01:31,319 --> 00:01:33,320 Speaker 1: legion of Boom, tied to Seattle. I mean he is 33 00:01:33,360 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: a legend up there. He's a legend football period. Um, 34 00:01:36,640 --> 00:01:39,800 Speaker 1: getting ready to play your old team. Um, I never 35 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: had to do that? You had? Have you? Did you 36 00:01:41,480 --> 00:01:43,480 Speaker 1: ever have to do that? No? But that's got to 37 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: be something emotional, right, very emotional. You gotta think you 38 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: know Bobby was a free agent. They didn't believe he 39 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 1: was gonna come back. The way it all transpired right 40 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: where he didn't know that they were going to bring 41 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: him back. It came on ESPN, all those different things, 42 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 1: and so for sure, I mean, we always try to 43 00:02:00,600 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: be professional about it, but come Sunday, when you wake 44 00:02:03,440 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: up in the morning, you're gonna be emotional. I wouldn't 45 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:07,560 Speaker 1: be surprised to be he shed a tear or three, right, 46 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,800 Speaker 1: because you have so many memories, so much history with 47 00:02:10,840 --> 00:02:16,359 Speaker 1: those coaches, that organization, being living there, all those different things. 48 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 1: It's always tough. I can't see Bobby Wagner crying. I 49 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: can see him making people cry. Tear drop A tear 50 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: dropper doesn't mean that you're sad, but just really ready 51 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: to play because they some of those guys left with 52 00:02:28,680 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: kind of bad blood, so maybe there's some hard feelings there. 53 00:02:31,520 --> 00:02:34,359 Speaker 1: So that's good for us, bad for them. As he 54 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: even killed. As Ever, though, let's get a word from 55 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner about how he believes, at least he's trying 56 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:42,519 Speaker 1: to portray this as just another game. It's a choice, 57 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:44,080 Speaker 1: you know. It's a choice to come out here and 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:48,639 Speaker 1: perform and play well, and study and work out and 59 00:02:48,680 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: do the things that you need to do to be great. 60 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: And the great ones do it, and the people who 61 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: don't ask in this league that long don't. Eric, I 62 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 1: think you listened to his entire session with the media 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,639 Speaker 1: yesterday by and are selling what he's feeling emotionally. I 64 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 1: think he is a consummate professional, you know what I mean? 65 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: And I think that he is. That's why he's such 66 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:10,320 Speaker 1: a leader for this Rams team. And so when you 67 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: see him in with this young defense and you see 68 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,800 Speaker 1: him sort of saying the same thing over and over again, 69 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 1: a lot of people, I'm sure our skeptical are like, 70 00:03:16,680 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: why are you saying? I think he truly believes that. 71 00:03:19,520 --> 00:03:21,040 Speaker 1: I think, yes, he has to be. He's not going 72 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: to get up there and be like, oh yeah, actually 73 00:03:23,639 --> 00:03:25,200 Speaker 1: I wish I was still there, Like he's not going 74 00:03:25,280 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: to say that, you know what I mean, And he 75 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: probably doesn't feel that way from what happens and how 76 00:03:29,360 --> 00:03:31,800 Speaker 1: he left. He came to this Rams team and he 77 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: is surrounded by players that he's trying to lift up 78 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: that are trying to lift him up as well. I 79 00:03:36,800 --> 00:03:39,000 Speaker 1: think it is another game. Do I think it is 80 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 1: circled on the calendar at home? Yes, of course. But 81 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 1: as far as him saying that, he's like it's just 82 00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,360 Speaker 1: another game to a professional like Bobby, it is a 83 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:49,360 Speaker 1: couple of things. One, there's a game ball with his 84 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,480 Speaker 1: name on it. Should the Rams win on Sunday, no 85 00:03:51,480 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 1: doubt about that. Right. Also, you said you didn't get 86 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: to play the teams that drafted you, but I bet 87 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: you had teammates who did at some point along the way, 88 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:00,160 Speaker 1: and did you or did you not rally for them 89 00:04:00,160 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: to make sure that they got the win that they wanted. 90 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:04,839 Speaker 1: We played the Rams with Tory Holt. Oh, that's right. Wow, 91 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: that was a big one. I remember playing with Kurt Morrison. 92 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 1: We played the Raiders and at halftime he came in 93 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: crying I've never been treated like this. I was like, bro, relax, 94 00:04:13,200 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: we'll take care of it. But so I can understand 95 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 1: that emotions behind it. Like you try to be a professional. 96 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 1: You try to do things because you are a leader 97 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 1: and you want to be as even kill as possible. 98 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,160 Speaker 1: You don't want to have Ernest Jones emotional because you're emotional, right. 99 00:04:25,200 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 1: You don't want to have Jalen Ramsey or other guys 100 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:30,480 Speaker 1: playing out of character, out of who they are, And 101 00:04:30,520 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: so I get that, but deep down inside, it's like 102 00:04:33,200 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 1: anything it's to me. I would play in DeMarco. I 103 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 1: know you've done this too. I would play old college 104 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: teammates in the NFL, and it'd be so emotional because 105 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 1: it's the guy that I worked with to try to 106 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: accomplish something, and I would try to hurt them and 107 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,279 Speaker 1: they try to hurt me because I know how it was, 108 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: and I would be very I couldn't imagine going back 109 00:04:50,680 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: playing Jackson. I couldn't. Your friend Lincoln Kennedy tried to 110 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:56,760 Speaker 1: kill me. This is like my roommate in college. We played. 111 00:04:56,800 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: He was with the Raiders, I'm with the Rams. He 112 00:04:58,360 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: tried to murder me. But you don't even know me. 113 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 1: More competitive though, because you're like, oh, I know that's him. 114 00:05:02,480 --> 00:05:04,800 Speaker 1: I'm going Adam harder, Like doesn't does it bring out 115 00:05:04,839 --> 00:05:07,480 Speaker 1: something different than just someone you've been watching them? Well, look, 116 00:05:07,560 --> 00:05:09,480 Speaker 1: there were some guys that I couldn't wait to get 117 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,960 Speaker 1: a hold of. They were upperclassmen, you know, are they 118 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: treat young people? So when I saw you in the NFL, 119 00:05:14,440 --> 00:05:16,440 Speaker 1: there was no mercy. But this was my friend who 120 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:18,720 Speaker 1: tried to like, that's what that's what you're supposed to 121 00:05:18,920 --> 00:05:21,239 Speaker 1: like playing your big brother, right and and for Bobby 122 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 1: Wagner understand that there Again, it's like anything, It's like 123 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,359 Speaker 1: a breakup, right, there's so many memories you have and 124 00:05:27,400 --> 00:05:29,760 Speaker 1: you're trying to get over things and all this. Then 125 00:05:29,800 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: I see you, right, and it's kind of like I 126 00:05:33,640 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: have to remind you of who I am more than 127 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,520 Speaker 1: you remind me of who you are. You know what 128 00:05:37,560 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 1: I mean? Like I brought you your championship. I was 129 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: part of that class that changed everything. And so again 130 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be emotional. And I understand Bobby's 131 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: side up and how he's talking because you have to 132 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: talk that way because you don't want to go on 133 00:05:48,640 --> 00:05:49,720 Speaker 1: the meeting and be like, oh, I can't wait to 134 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: play him, because you're already going yeah, yeah, I can't 135 00:05:52,320 --> 00:05:54,240 Speaker 1: wait to see the coin toss because he's going out 136 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: to be the captain. That's gonna be something to watch. Yeah. 137 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: I just I wish better for him and these circumstances. 138 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: I thought when we got to December that Bobby Wagner 139 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:02,920 Speaker 1: was going to have a chance to help the Rams 140 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: punch their ticket to the playoffs going through Seattle. With 141 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 1: six games remaining this one and the regular season finale 142 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: up in the Pacific Northwest. It does not appear to 143 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:12,440 Speaker 1: be shaking out that way, and I can't help but 144 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: feel that he deserved better that. I think the sharpest 145 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:18,840 Speaker 1: sting one of them of this season is that he 146 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 1: came here and he's delivered. He's been one of, if 147 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 1: not the best off ball linebackers in the entire NFL 148 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: and it's only translated to three wins so far. He's 149 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:29,159 Speaker 1: handling his department. He's one of the best inside backers 150 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: in the game, if not the best right now. But 151 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: here's what gives me a takes the edge off some 152 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: He's got a ring, So I don't feel that bad, 153 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:37,839 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. If this was his last 154 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: shot at a winner and it went south, then I 155 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: would feel horrible. But if he stops now he's got 156 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: a ring, you know what I mean, He's a champion 157 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: to that point. Same thing for Aaron Donald. Yeah right, 158 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: He's not gonna die this weekend high ankle sprain. But 159 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 1: thank goodness, he got that ring right right out on 160 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 1: this field less than a year ago. In fact, he's 161 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: got more NFL Defensive Player of the Year on than 162 00:07:00,920 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: miss games as a professional. Isn't that incredible? Yes? That 163 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 1: first game miss due to injury. He had to hold out, right, 164 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: he had the week seventeen game where the Ramps had 165 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:15,119 Speaker 1: already clinched and Sean mcvah held him out. He played 166 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,200 Speaker 1: through injury after beating the Seahawks in the postseason going 167 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. But this is the first time that 168 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: he's gonna be held out due to injury. Yeah. Look, 169 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: the guys like him wind up immortalized. You know what. 170 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stay there without trying to say it. 171 00:07:26,320 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: He's tough, he's humble, the guy is, he's available, and 172 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,440 Speaker 1: he's one of the best we've ever seen. I figured 173 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: it out, Maurice. When we were in Kansas City. I 174 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: went down to see Chris Jones in particular because people 175 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: were saying, maybe this guy has a chance to be 176 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: better than Aaron. Right then I saw Chris Jones. He's 177 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,200 Speaker 1: the size of that pillar, No know what I mean. 178 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: So when you see him, Okay, I look at you, 179 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:49,280 Speaker 1: you're supposed to dominate. Then I look at Aaron. You 180 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,480 Speaker 1: wouldn't know it's Aaron unless he had his uniform on. 181 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 1: He's not the biggest guy in the world. That's what 182 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: really impresses me. So and people always ask me, how 183 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 1: do I quantify it with with Aaron, how do you 184 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: know he's as good as he is? It's not sacks, 185 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 1: it's not tackle for a loss. You can count those 186 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 1: of you one count how many times you actually see 187 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 1: him off his feet in the game as a defensive tackle. 188 00:08:06,920 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: You won't get beyond five, you know what I mean. 189 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 1: And that's a rarity. So the fact that he's able 190 00:08:11,240 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: to be in that position, stay alive, stay healthy long enough. 191 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: And this is his first game miss due to Andrew 192 00:08:17,360 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: I thought I ran out of things to say about 193 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: this guy. There's even more to say about this guy 194 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:24,320 Speaker 1: now that he's out for one game. And it's not 195 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: just him, of course, It's Matthew Stafford, It's Cooper Cup, 196 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: it's Alan Robinson, and the list goes on and on 197 00:08:28,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: and on. So Erica, the youth movement is truly on 198 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: this week and for the rest of the season for 199 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Rams. Yeah, and I think it is 200 00:08:34,559 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: a great time. These are valuable snaps for this younger team. 201 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:39,959 Speaker 1: And this is this is playing time in the preseason. 202 00:08:40,240 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: You're going against not necessarily first team defenses and this 203 00:08:43,679 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: type of stuff and offenses as well, so I think 204 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: that there are positives to be taken away about these 205 00:08:49,200 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 1: younger draft picks and other free agents that we have 206 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: to really develop and really get to see them in 207 00:08:54,440 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 1: a game scenario. Race, I want to ask you what 208 00:08:56,400 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: it means not only for rushing Gino Smith, but also 209 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: defeating a Seahawks running game that was as potent as 210 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: any in the league but has fallen on hard times. 211 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: But first, let's get the head coach saw mcvay's comments 212 00:09:06,320 --> 00:09:09,160 Speaker 1: on plane without eighty ninety nine. So much of it 213 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: is built around him. He's such a he's truly one 214 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: of one, and so you don't replace anybody like him. 215 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:18,680 Speaker 1: Guys will be asked to step up. Have confidence in 216 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 1: those guys. But I think Aaron's resume speaks for him 217 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,480 Speaker 1: for itself, the way that he works, the way that 218 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: he brings others with them, and so it's a huge 219 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 1: loss force. All right. So the Rams not only without 220 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,200 Speaker 1: their best pass rusher, but also one of the most 221 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:33,920 Speaker 1: physical forces in their run defense, and they have been 222 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: great against the run. Let's take it to the Seahawks perspective. 223 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:39,319 Speaker 1: You rewind time, let's say three weeks before they go 224 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,200 Speaker 1: to Germany and We're looking at Pete Carroll saying he's 225 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: done it again. He's reinvented his team. He's put them 226 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 1: atop the NFC West. They are playing run first football 227 00:09:49,240 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 1: and they're stopping the run. Now, neither of those things 228 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,600 Speaker 1: are true. Yeah, I think a lot of times as 229 00:09:55,600 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: a season go on. As the season goes on, you 230 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,360 Speaker 1: have to start to self scout. You have to start 231 00:09:59,360 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: looking at what we doing well, what can we improve 232 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: on And if you don't do those things, teams are 233 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: going to kind of figure you out. And so they 234 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:07,800 Speaker 1: still want to run the ball first, They still want 235 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,560 Speaker 1: to do that. I thought the Vegas Raiders did a 236 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 1: great job of limiting explosive runs right and forcing them 237 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 1: to have to force the ball down the field, forcing 238 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:19,199 Speaker 1: Gino to hold it a little bit more. And as 239 00:10:19,760 --> 00:10:21,880 Speaker 1: you know, there wasn't as many clean looks for Gino 240 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,040 Speaker 1: right early in the year. You're getting eight man box 241 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: and you're getting loaded front. When he pulls, when he 242 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: kind of pulls out and tries to throw the ball 243 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: is either single high coverage you have one on one 244 00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 1: on the outside, or you have a guy crossing and 245 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: coming across the middle. It made it simple for him 246 00:10:34,440 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 1: and so now they're gonna try to get back to that. 247 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Not having a D is gonna be tough. And then 248 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,360 Speaker 1: and then the biggest reason is run fits and eye violations. Right, 249 00:10:43,440 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: you have to make sure that if you're that defensive 250 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,480 Speaker 1: in or you're that noseguard, that you're in that A 251 00:10:47,600 --> 00:10:49,120 Speaker 1: gap or that sea gap or that B gap where 252 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 1: you're supposed to be, because if you get removed out 253 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: here comes a big lane, right, and it's gonna be 254 00:10:53,360 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 1: a lot for Bobby Wagner and Ernest Jones are kind 255 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: of have to make up for that, right or Nick 256 00:10:58,360 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: Scott to have to come in and make up for 257 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: that Taylor Rapper, whoever may be to come in. And 258 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: so you have to make sure that this week is 259 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:10,400 Speaker 1: all about playing sound run stopping defense, which means someone 260 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:12,440 Speaker 1: has to be in the A gap, B gap, Sea gap, 261 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,199 Speaker 1: D gap and you have to protect those gaps with everything. 262 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: Force Gino to beat you. Right. I've always been a 263 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:19,480 Speaker 1: believer in this, and I don't want to sound like 264 00:11:19,520 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: a hater, but Gino is Gino. Right, They're like, I 265 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: don't believe in these one year wonders, Like oh my god, 266 00:11:24,480 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: this is like no, this is who like you've been 267 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:28,480 Speaker 1: who you were a long time ago, Like you're gonna 268 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 1: come back down to earth. He's playing really good, but 269 00:11:30,640 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, he's coming back down to earth. 270 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 1: And he's playing smart too. Yeah, all of a sudden, 271 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: he's coming back down to earth though, right, it's not 272 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 1: you know we week two, three, or however he every 273 00:11:38,679 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: weeks when he was like on fire, and so force 274 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: him to make those mistakes, force him to have to 275 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: see this two high safety defense and try to force 276 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: the ball into coverage, and you have a great opportunity 277 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 1: to win. Ricky. It sure looks like the Seahawks won 278 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: the trade super early, not even a full season away, 279 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: but they somehow got better at quarterback. How that happened? Yeah, 280 00:11:56,559 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: I mean I don't know if that's necessarily Russe will 281 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,440 Speaker 1: fell off A yeah, I'm not sure if that's like 282 00:12:02,480 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 1: a Russell Wilson thing. Um, you know, you go to 283 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,719 Speaker 1: his birthday party. I was invited, so I felt kind 284 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: of guilty I didn't go, but I was invited. Yeah yeah, 285 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 1: so yeah, no, there was. It was only half the team, 286 00:12:15,160 --> 00:12:16,960 Speaker 1: so I felt a little weird about it, and I 287 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 1: was just like, no, I'm not gonna go. But no, 288 00:12:18,600 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: I think I think Pete Carroll and and the you know, 289 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 1: the GM over there, everyone was totally saying it was 290 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,920 Speaker 1: they got fleeced in this trade and it was crazy. 291 00:12:28,200 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 1: And then now look at the flip side. So I 292 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 1: also think that's a that's a testament to bring it 293 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: back to us too. Sean McVay is coached against Pete 294 00:12:34,880 --> 00:12:38,319 Speaker 1: Carroll for the last five five years, six years. He 295 00:12:39,280 --> 00:12:42,560 Speaker 1: the Rams have been, you know, pretty good against the Seahawks. 296 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: So I think that and like you just said, Gino 297 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,560 Speaker 1: is Gino, and if we force him to be Gino 298 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,120 Speaker 1: and force them to get out of their game scripts 299 00:12:51,160 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: right away, like I think without Aaron Donald, of course, 300 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: that is so detrimental. But also I think there is 301 00:12:57,679 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 1: something you know, the Seahawks. You know, we got a 302 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:03,439 Speaker 1: little bit of tricks up our sleep too. What I'm 303 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:05,520 Speaker 1: picking up on that you say there, I think is accurate. 304 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,439 Speaker 1: The Seahawks kind of owe the Rams of thank you 305 00:13:07,800 --> 00:13:10,559 Speaker 1: right like they're in position to maybe get a wildcard spot. 306 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,720 Speaker 1: It looks like San Francisco's the top the division maybe 307 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 1: for good now. But the Seahawks are in good shape now, 308 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: and they're even better shape moving forward, and they made 309 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: a very difficult decision to kind of dismantle their championship 310 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: rain but stick with Pete Carroll, and I don't think 311 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:28,679 Speaker 1: there was a stronger force in that decision than Aaron Donald, 312 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:30,680 Speaker 1: Seoun McVay and the Los Angeles Rams. I think the 313 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,480 Speaker 1: Seahawks looked around the division, saw what the Rams had done, 314 00:13:33,480 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: how the Rams had overtaken them, and said, we got 315 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 1: to switch things up, we got to go in a 316 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:40,720 Speaker 1: different direction. And now here they are with a winning 317 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: record less than one year later and in position to 318 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: get a top five pick out of it as well. 319 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:48,000 Speaker 1: From Denver. Well, I'll say this too. The other part 320 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 1: is the Rams make that trade for Matthew Stafford and 321 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, the NFL goes crazy, right, 322 00:13:54,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 1: and Denver felt like they were a quarterback away, a 323 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: player away, which is the craziest thing in the world 324 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,240 Speaker 1: to feel, because you're gonna do whatever you can, and 325 00:14:01,280 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 1: so you leverage the farm to get Russell Wilson, which 326 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,679 Speaker 1: helps out Seattle, right, Because early in that year, why 327 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: did Pete Carroll say, We're not going to trade Russell Wilson. 328 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,520 Speaker 1: There's no way we're gonna do that. Boom right away. 329 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 1: Now you're forts in Denver to give you everything. And 330 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: then with those picks you hit you you hit on 331 00:14:17,360 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: four of them. They hit on this year's class. Yeah, 332 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 1: and there's reason to believe that now they know what 333 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 1: their needs are going in the next year and they're 334 00:14:22,600 --> 00:14:25,000 Speaker 1: gonna have two first round picks and so you're you're 335 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,120 Speaker 1: gonna they're building. And I always say this, like Pete 336 00:14:28,120 --> 00:14:30,320 Speaker 1: Carroll is a great coach, a great He was a 337 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:31,960 Speaker 1: great coach when I want to get him in college, 338 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: but he's an even better coach now to be able 339 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 1: to dismantle that championship team and then put a winning 340 00:14:36,680 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: product on the field. It takes time to dismantle the 341 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars in two thousand eth they had a championship team. 342 00:14:41,760 --> 00:14:43,920 Speaker 1: They dismanaged that and they're still rebuilding. Yeah, they're still 343 00:14:43,920 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: trying to find their way. There's a lot of teams 344 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: that go up and then they have to find their 345 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,520 Speaker 1: way back. Seattle's one. It was like one year or 346 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: whatever and they're back at it. So great on Pete Carroll. 347 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 1: All right, enough on the Seahawks quarterback situation. Let's get 348 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: to that here in Los Angeles too. Early in the 349 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 1: week to know for certain, but the indications are we 350 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:03,760 Speaker 1: might see both right John Wolford and Bryce Perkins against 351 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: the Seattle Seahawks here at SOFI Stadium this week in DeMarco, 352 00:15:06,840 --> 00:15:09,200 Speaker 1: conventional wisdom says, if you have two quarterbacks who don't 353 00:15:09,240 --> 00:15:11,760 Speaker 1: have one, why might that or might that not be 354 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: true for the Rams. I think that fits here right 355 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, I think you have Matthew Staffords 356 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: your guy. This is what you want to do with 357 00:15:19,400 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: your offense, who you tailed your offense around, So when 358 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:23,840 Speaker 1: he's out now, you've got to kind of split the job. 359 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:26,320 Speaker 1: If Wolford is up, then I would love to see 360 00:15:26,400 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 1: him out there for passing downs. And that's no knock 361 00:15:28,720 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: on Bryce Perkins. I thought he was fantastic, even though 362 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:33,840 Speaker 1: the numbers don't say it. I thought he was fantastic 363 00:15:33,880 --> 00:15:36,920 Speaker 1: against Kansas City because of how much danger he got 364 00:15:36,920 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: out of and he wasn't running around like a chicken 365 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: with his head cut off. I mean he was actually 366 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,280 Speaker 1: going out there and trying to make plays. The drive 367 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,600 Speaker 1: after Mahomes goes up twenty to three and he answers 368 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: and goes right back down the field. I thought that 369 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 1: was a huge, big boy drive. So I left that 370 00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: game thinking you can build off this with him. But 371 00:15:53,640 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: if Wolford is up, I think he's earned the right 372 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: to play, and he's earned the right to get some 373 00:15:57,120 --> 00:16:00,000 Speaker 1: reps against Seattle. He knows your offense. There's a lot 374 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: lot of things that you probably can do with Wolford 375 00:16:02,320 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 1: that you can't do with Bryce Perkins and vice versus. 376 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 1: So why not have a mix of both, right? I 377 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 1: mean you are three and eight, so there are some 378 00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,920 Speaker 1: things that you have the luxury of doing, which is 379 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:15,880 Speaker 1: played playing two quarterbacks. And I would keep Seattle guessing 380 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 1: all the way up until game time. I would. I'd 381 00:16:18,480 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 1: have you prepare for Bryce Perkins, prepare for the running 382 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,280 Speaker 1: quarterbacks periods. That's not funny. I'd keep you up at night. 383 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:26,840 Speaker 1: Why not. I'd keep you guessing until you saw who 384 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:31,280 Speaker 1: actually took the field after the opening kick. John Wolford 385 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: got the starting I playoff game a couple of years 386 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,640 Speaker 1: ago up in Seattle. The Rams won that game behind 387 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,520 Speaker 1: Jared Goff, but they felt really confident what Wolford was 388 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 1: bringing to the table. Well, I still think you're in 389 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,960 Speaker 1: the evaluation period, and it's most important to give guys 390 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: that opportunity to see what they can do. John Wolfer's 391 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 1: been your backup for the last couple of years and 392 00:16:47,160 --> 00:16:49,280 Speaker 1: he's had opportunities to go in and play in big games. 393 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: And so, like you said, why wouldn't you. I've seen 394 00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:55,120 Speaker 1: Bryce Perkins. John Wolford's healthy enough to go out here 395 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:56,800 Speaker 1: and play. Let's see what he can do. And then 396 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,560 Speaker 1: give Perkins some some snaps here and there, some red 397 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: zone play, He's maybe some third and shorts, some things 398 00:17:01,840 --> 00:17:04,080 Speaker 1: where we can utilize his legs and force them to 399 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 1: kind of switch their defense around and then come back, 400 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:08,959 Speaker 1: make them have to adjust to what you're doing. Uh. 401 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, it's so funny 402 00:17:10,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: because you know, people may think, like, oh, the Rams 403 00:17:13,119 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 1: are trying to figure out what they're gonna do and 404 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 1: they're tanking. Like coach Bevannisi wants to win and he's 405 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,960 Speaker 1: gonna put this team in the best situation to be successful. Right, 406 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: And so if you do have two quarterbacks on third 407 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:25,760 Speaker 1: and ten, it's not gonna be Bryce Perkins. Right, We're 408 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,560 Speaker 1: not gonna do that. But if it's thirty two, maybe, 409 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:30,880 Speaker 1: if it's third and two, yeah, now you have you 410 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: you put them in or if it's in the red zone, 411 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:34,640 Speaker 1: you have to make them play eleven on eleven football. 412 00:17:34,800 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: But also with John Woolford, you can run a lot 413 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: of your the Bible. We always talk about the Bible 414 00:17:39,040 --> 00:17:41,400 Speaker 1: being the two thousand and eighteen playbook, where you're seeing 415 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 1: a lot of play action pass, a lot of outside zone, 416 00:17:43,440 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: a guy that's athletic, athletic enough to get there to 417 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:47,760 Speaker 1: own the stretch play and then be able to boot 418 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: away and all those different things. I still think you 419 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:52,639 Speaker 1: go back to that because that is what that was 420 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: it twenty seventeen when the Rams went up there and 421 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: blew them out of water. Nothing did Todd Gurley get 422 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 1: what a time to be alive? Right? And so for me, 423 00:18:04,000 --> 00:18:06,040 Speaker 1: it's not like you can't do that With John Woolford. 424 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:07,440 Speaker 1: You can't. You can go out there and make those 425 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: same plays there. Wow, maybe some vibes from the Super 426 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: Dumb a couple of weeks ago. Why with Dalton and 427 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,880 Speaker 1: Taysom Hill platooning at quarterback Erica the question also, who's 428 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: either quarterback going to throw it to the weapons right now? 429 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: Really depleted for Los Angeles? Yeah, I mean Alan Robinson 430 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:23,720 Speaker 1: didn't play last week as well, and he's he's on 431 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,680 Speaker 1: ir with the foot. Van Jefferson got that touchdown again. 432 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: He's getting his legs back under him. I think that 433 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 1: we've seen two two out Well sort of emerge as this, 434 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: you know, this long downfield threat, which has been great. 435 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,359 Speaker 1: Jab's upset that he had a short catch though. Yeah, 436 00:18:37,480 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 1: well it's dragging down as I don't like seeing him 437 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:44,280 Speaker 1: run more of the full route tree. Yeah, definitely, that's 438 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,920 Speaker 1: something to be gained here in the final months. And 439 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,679 Speaker 1: I think I think it is interesting because in the 440 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, they were really hitting Scaronic a lot. 441 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: They're hitting Powell and some of these situations, and I 442 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:55,960 Speaker 1: think that they've sort of moved away from that a 443 00:18:55,960 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: little bit. And I think now it's even time to 444 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: really start throwing in a lot of these mix ups 445 00:19:01,400 --> 00:19:04,640 Speaker 1: and have different formations and the different types of guys 446 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: that they were hitting in the beginning, when it was 447 00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:08,200 Speaker 1: sort of like who, who the heck are we gonna 448 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:10,160 Speaker 1: throw it too, Like Okay, I'm just gonna get it out. 449 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: I think we almost need to go back to that 450 00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:14,840 Speaker 1: urgency and get to some of these guys that can 451 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 1: actually make an impact. We talked about Pete Carroll reverting 452 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: to his roots on offense. The same might be true 453 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:22,920 Speaker 1: on defense. They've been getting gashed by opposing running games 454 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs and the Raiders most recently and already he's 455 00:19:25,640 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: commenting publicly that they might drop down a safety place 456 00:19:28,720 --> 00:19:31,760 Speaker 1: and heavier boxes, get back to that single high structure 457 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: that made them so successful and so famous for all 458 00:19:34,040 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: those years. I don't know that there's Earl Thomas in 459 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: the back necessarily anymore, but I do think it points 460 00:19:39,600 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: to the fact that you're going to need a quarterback 461 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: who can spin it and can attack not just the Seahawks, 462 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: but also the Las Vegas Raiders on the back half 463 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,520 Speaker 1: of this two game week. The Raiders might have the 464 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: worst passing defense in the National Football League, and I 465 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,399 Speaker 1: think in the back of the Ram's mind they know 466 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,840 Speaker 1: that they're going to need a quarterback who can attack 467 00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,400 Speaker 1: all quadrants of the field through the air to find 468 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:01,760 Speaker 1: a way to win one of or both of these games. No, 469 00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,920 Speaker 1: I think you're exactly right, And again we're talking about 470 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,680 Speaker 1: all this. It's the evaluation process, and as a player, 471 00:20:07,720 --> 00:20:09,160 Speaker 1: it's your job to go out there and make plays 472 00:20:09,160 --> 00:20:11,399 Speaker 1: in this situation. If you're on the field right. There's 473 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: no longer I was a practice squad guy, or I 474 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,359 Speaker 1: was a fourth receive robins. No, no, you're you're up 475 00:20:16,400 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: here now, and your job is to go out here 476 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,919 Speaker 1: and force this personnel department, force these coaches to have 477 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: to decide if you can make this roster again next year. 478 00:20:25,160 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 1: And so I think it may you know, Van Jefferson, 479 00:20:28,440 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 1: it's your job to go out there and be a 480 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: number one wide receivers, a chance to be the guy 481 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,719 Speaker 1: to be Cooper Cup if that's your chance, right, And 482 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 1: so for John Woolford or Bryce Perkins or whoever it 483 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: may be, it's your chance to go out there and 484 00:20:37,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: show that you can be the backup to Matthew Stafford 485 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: or that maybe someone else out here that's looking for 486 00:20:41,520 --> 00:20:43,960 Speaker 1: a quarterback. As quarterbacks are or at a premium right now, 487 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 1: certain teams may need to pick you up. And so 488 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 1: I think that goes for everyone here, for the running backs, 489 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:52,240 Speaker 1: for the offensive line, for the defense, the special teams. 490 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 1: You're all playing with the purpose. It's the evaluation pier 491 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: that needs to be had, and you have two really 492 00:20:57,160 --> 00:20:59,159 Speaker 1: good games as a quarterback to kind of go out 493 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: there and showcase your abilities right, you said the Raiders 494 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: are dead last. They are, and the Seahawks give it 495 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: up too, And so you have an opportunity to go 496 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,600 Speaker 1: here and spend the ball and have some confidence while 497 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:11,719 Speaker 1: you're doing it because you know where these guys are 498 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 1: going to be. You've ever been called sorry in your life? 499 00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you could really? Oh yeah, look call me whatever. 500 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 1: No one's ever called me sorry, especially talking about football. 501 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,520 Speaker 1: There's a lot of people like my barber that says 502 00:21:21,560 --> 00:21:23,399 Speaker 1: that some of these guys, especially in the back end 503 00:21:23,480 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: the secondary, are sorry. Okay, I say you need more reps. 504 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,200 Speaker 1: So you're gonna get more reps going forward for the 505 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: next six weeks. So we're gonna find out who's right, 506 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: my barber or me. You're gonna get those extended reps 507 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:38,000 Speaker 1: moving forward. A lot of guys barber like to tell 508 00:21:38,000 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 1: the truth, absolutely, especially behind Aaron Donald too. You guys 509 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 1: are gonna have to go in and play. Oh this 510 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: guy's sorry, why he needs more reps. Well, let's find 511 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,159 Speaker 1: out who's right. Yeah, you're gonna get fifty reps in 512 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 1: this game. We're gonna be back on this Toyota patio 513 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 1: before the Christmas game against the Broncos, let me know 514 00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 1: if your barber is available. Done, we'll final opportunity to 515 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 1: explore the space, be it a demo, a final comments. 516 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: Seahawks Rams coming your way on Sunday. You don't want none. 517 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: I told you. I gave that up a long time ago. 518 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 1: I would say this. I think the most important thing 519 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:17,800 Speaker 1: is you've had this hold. It's very similar to the 520 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: Niners on the Rams. When then, even when the Niners 521 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,719 Speaker 1: are beat up, they've had this hold on the Rams 522 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: that no matter what, they found a way to win, 523 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,440 Speaker 1: you've had that exact same hold on the Seahawks. Try, 524 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,400 Speaker 1: don't let it go. They want to get out, Yeah, 525 00:22:29,440 --> 00:22:32,880 Speaker 1: they want to get out. Keep a minute, because if 526 00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:35,480 Speaker 1: you beat them, when you're like this without all your guys, 527 00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:38,320 Speaker 1: I think that's gonna make them feel right. And then 528 00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: and so you gotta in the NFL. You gotta hold 529 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 1: those teams down. You can't let them get up. Good 530 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,840 Speaker 1: luck against folsom on Friday, my friend. Oh yeah, it's 531 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:46,480 Speaker 1: a tough one. They got us, They got us the 532 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: first time. That's what I said. I understand what it's like. 533 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,760 Speaker 1: We gotta break out of this hold. They got me 534 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,159 Speaker 1: in there like this. I gotta get out and good 535 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:57,040 Speaker 1: luck with the puppy training. Thank you sleep between now 536 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 1: and Sunday. Yeah, I don't know if if it thought's 537 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,880 Speaker 1: gonna happen, that's gonna happen. My my one final thought. 538 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 1: And I've been saying this for the last two weeks. 539 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 1: And I am so on the Kirrin Williams train. His 540 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,959 Speaker 1: micd up was amazing. His energy, the way that he 541 00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: runs out of the tunnel and every down, the way 542 00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:16,320 Speaker 1: that he is talking to people meaning like let's get 543 00:23:16,359 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: the enthusiasm to play, and you talk about being able 544 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: to not stop the run as well. I want to 545 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: see more of him like we did in the second 546 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: half against the Chiefs. I am so on board with 547 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: this kid and I really can't wait to see him 548 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 1: on Sunday. And DeMarco, I wish you luck with whatever 549 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: is troubling you. What do you mean, I don't know. 550 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: I just wish more race luck and I wish camera 551 00:23:38,359 --> 00:23:40,600 Speaker 1: we got one kid, come on now, we can do it. 552 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 1: No prep football, no puppies, not at all either. For DeMarco, 553 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:46,760 Speaker 1: friend JD, for Erica on JB. Long, I hope you 554 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:49,280 Speaker 1: can join us here in Englewood this Sunday. As the 555 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: Rams play host of their division rival, the Seattle Seahawks. 556 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 1: Thanks for being here between the horns that's always presented 557 00:23:55,080 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 1: by your Southern California. Tell you to do the rest 558 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,680 Speaker 1: of the Man Camdal sub job.