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Speaker 1: live from Indianapolis at the NFL Combined NFL insider Ian Rappaport.

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Speaker 2: He and what's going on?

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: How are you?

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Speaker 3: I made it here amidst the snow and craziness, so

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Speaker 3: I am doing very well.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you're a better traveler than I am. We can

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Speaker 2: put that down. So let's start here with that. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: exactly right.

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Speaker 1: So it's your job to kind of get a sense

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Speaker 1: for what this NFL off season is going to look like.

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Speaker 1: What are some of the biggest things that you're waiting

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, the way the NFL off

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Speaker 3: season works, it's like the combine is a little bit

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Speaker 3: of a sort of anomaly, I guess, for lack of

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Speaker 3: a better word, like it drops in the middle of draft.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's like the draft process drops the middle

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Speaker 3: of free agency. So there's this and obviously we'll be

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Speaker 3: focused on this here, but it's really like who gets

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Speaker 3: franchise tagged? Because every year there's like all these lists

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Speaker 3: How many get tagged this year? And then I think

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Speaker 3: the other thing is like who's available for trades? You know,

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Speaker 3: because it's like we've seen teams general managers are much

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Speaker 3: more willing to risk and do trades that I think

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Speaker 3: we've we've ever seen before. We saw this, you know,

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Speaker 3: this year the trade deadline went crazy in a way

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Speaker 3: take a risk. So like who's getting tagged, who's available

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Speaker 3: for trade? And then it's like, all right, now, who's

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Speaker 3: everybody gonna sign?

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Speaker 1: Who are the guys that you are keeping an eye

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Speaker 1: on that could be potential big name players that get moved?

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'd say, first of all, the quarterbacks, you know,

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Speaker 3: like just Tula tug About get moved?

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Speaker 4: Is Kyler Murray get moved? I mean that those are you.

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Speaker 3: Know, certainly interesting ones to kind of keep our eyes on.

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's there's a lot of quarterbacks who

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Speaker 3: there's you know, where does milikquill go. Obviously wouldn't be

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Speaker 3: of the big name guys we've been discussing, like what

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Speaker 3: happens to Max Crosby. You know, John spit Tech earlier

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Speaker 3: today said he believes that, you know, he's gonna be

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Speaker 4: It's like, okay, well, you know.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys said a lot of things about Michael Parsons and

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Speaker 3: happens so offseason. But you know, obviously those things are

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Speaker 2: It's in the division.

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Speaker 1: So I'm curious, what's your feel for two big wide

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I would say for AJ Brown, anything

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Speaker 3: don't know that it makes the most sense for Philly,

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Speaker 3: like what they could get. There's a huge cap penalty

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Speaker 3: because they've extended him a couple of times. You could

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Speaker 3: do it you can trade anybody you want. I just

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Speaker 3: don't know, like trading away a really good player and

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Speaker 3: have worked. You know, is it too much at one position?

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Speaker 3: So I think that, you know, are they willing to

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Speaker 2: Huddle up, get in here.

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Speaker 1: They obviously bring in John Harball this offseason. Where do

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Speaker 1: you think the Giants will most feel his impact in

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Speaker 1: terms of this player acquisition process we're going to go

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Speaker 3: I don't know that, like the fans are going to

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Speaker 3: feel any of this, right, I mean, there's been a

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Speaker 3: none of the fans are going to care about how

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Speaker 3: Dona Ponte helps the organization. None of the fans are

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Speaker 3: they're not going to see any of that. But to me, like,

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Speaker 3: the culture in Baltimore is is excellent. Ericticosa has done

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Speaker 3: I mean he did it, and so like the expectations

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Speaker 3: he is very particular and serious and knows what it

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Speaker 4: And I think those in the building.

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Speaker 3: Just as far as processes and like what everyone's expectations are,

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Speaker 1: I Gihants have a bunch of mid level free agents

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean you can always can always clear this space.

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Speaker 3: I would say, you know, Luminar has been been really good.

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Speaker 3: Wandell Robinson is intriguing to me, not just because I

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Speaker 4: Given out productive, he's been Like.

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Speaker 3: I think Wandell Robinson has headed to a really really

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Speaker 4: I mean, he has earned it. He's gotten here.

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Speaker 3: Like you know, I think there's a lot to like

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Speaker 1: Would you expect the Giants to be very aggressive and

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Speaker 1: you're talking about that John Harball would like to install here,

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see that, and I think a lot

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Speaker 4: Which is you know, he's been a topic.

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Speaker 4: So you know, we'll see what happens.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure people are going to be interested, but like

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Speaker 4: Keep my eyes on.

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Speaker 2: Be good stuff, enjoy the combine, and uh, don't make

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Speaker 4: I'll see what I can do.

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