1 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: All right, I am Rapp Report Stereo podcast coming live 2 00:00:14,080 --> 00:00:16,439 Speaker 1: in director. I'm going to tell you something about today's episode. 3 00:00:16,480 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 1: Today's episode is with Alec Baldwin, iconic actor, and I 4 00:00:23,079 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 1: have to let you know we recorded this episode on 5 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: January ninth. It's a fantastic episode. We did not discuss 6 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:35,800 Speaker 1: the tragedy what took place on that film set with 7 00:00:35,960 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the cinematographer and the director being accidentally. 8 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:42,840 Speaker 2: Shot. It's a tragedy. 9 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:47,600 Speaker 1: Anybody who's been on a film set, television set knows 10 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: that something like that is that just a terrible, terrible mistake. 11 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: I do not support, do not like the politicization of 12 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: the situation. My sentiments, thoughts, my prayers go with the 13 00:01:04,760 --> 00:01:12,240 Speaker 1: woman Helena Hutchinson, the DP who was accidentally shot and 14 00:01:12,640 --> 00:01:15,880 Speaker 1: passed away, along with the director who also was shot, 15 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: and everybody who was there, because I'm sure everybody has 16 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: been traumatized by the event and people's lives have been 17 00:01:24,120 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: changed forever. 18 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: It's easy to politicize. 19 00:01:27,720 --> 00:01:33,720 Speaker 1: Scrutinize somebody like Alec Baldwin who's had a boombastic off 20 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 1: screen persona, but I'm sure he is just mortified and 21 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,480 Speaker 1: has so much sorrow about what happened. That being said, 22 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,280 Speaker 1: we did not discuss that. I didn't feel like it 23 00:01:44,319 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: was appropriate. This is a fantastic episode about acting, about 24 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: his career, about my career, about different actors, al Pacino, 25 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: Kate Blanchett, Robert de Niro with Alec Baldwin, and once again, 26 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: my thoughts, my prayers, sentiments go out to Miss Hutchinson 27 00:02:04,360 --> 00:02:08,520 Speaker 1: and her family and I'm wishing them nothing but the 28 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: best going forward and trying to deal with their life 29 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: that will never be the same. Enjoy this episode of 30 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: the Iron Rapaport Stereo Podcast. Very excited about this podcast, 31 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:38,280 Speaker 1: got notes and everything with highlighted information. I am Rapaport 32 00:02:38,360 --> 00:02:42,840 Speaker 1: Stereo podcast with a man that needs no introduction who 33 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: I've been a fan of New Yorker from Long Island, 34 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:50,960 Speaker 1: been in everything I was going through all the films 35 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: and it's been decades. Glen Garry, Glenn Ross's work and 36 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: Girl Miami Blues with the great Jennifer Jason Lee loved 37 00:02:57,680 --> 00:03:02,560 Speaker 1: that film, Beatlejuice, The Hunt for Red Octobers, The Royal 38 00:03:02,639 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: Tane Bombs Departed Blue Jasmine, which is one of my favorites. 39 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:13,080 Speaker 1: Thirty rock philanthropist, classical music lover, father of seventeen or 40 00:03:13,160 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: eighteen children. The Excellent, Curious, The Curious Alec Baldwin is 41 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: with me on the Iron Rappaport Sterio podcast. 42 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 2: My Pleasure, My Pleasure? Did you see now? I haven't 43 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: been doing these things, you know what I mean? But 44 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 2: I see you online. I see your Instagram and I'm 45 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: always like you can hear me laughing in the other room, 46 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 2: because there's very few people who tell it as state 47 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: as you do. 48 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,640 Speaker 1: You know, online is a crazy why are you online? 49 00:03:39,640 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: I know why I'm online, and some people say to 50 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: me why am I online? But when I see you 51 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 1: online sometimes I'm like through the good, the bad, the Trump, 52 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: the pandemic, even this week, and every time, every time 53 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: you get online, it's like controversy, questioning why are you 54 00:03:56,960 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: even on social media? 55 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,880 Speaker 2: Well? I think that number one we found and maybe 56 00:04:01,920 --> 00:04:05,000 Speaker 2: we found it, maybe my wife figured this out, probably 57 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,000 Speaker 2: we found it on accident. Is that you wind up 58 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 2: thwarting paparazzi press when you're putting out a whole bin 59 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 2: of your own images of your kids and yourself. The 60 00:04:17,839 --> 00:04:22,839 Speaker 2: more you post online certain stuff, the less the value 61 00:04:22,880 --> 00:04:24,960 Speaker 2: there is to their pictures of you. Right, So they 62 00:04:24,960 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 2: don't unless they got my wife pregnant walking down the street, 63 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 2: you know, which is often but and for me, I 64 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 2: find Instagram can be fun in terms of and I 65 00:04:37,560 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: don't mean to do these rambles, like I would talk 66 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 2: about a topic, which I like doing that because it's 67 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 2: you unedited. Yes, Like I've done pieces where the most 68 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 2: coaching things I said, as you well know, get cut out, yes, 69 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 2: and I get frustrated with that. So I kind of 70 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:58,880 Speaker 2: stopped doing that for now. But I would do these 71 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:01,799 Speaker 2: rambles we called them, and I would speak to people 72 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:04,400 Speaker 2: in the audience about a topic. But most of it's 73 00:05:04,440 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: like just think, I think it's funny with my kids 74 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 2: and so forth. And it's like a pr thing that 75 00:05:09,440 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 2: you control. I agree that you control, you. 76 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:15,360 Speaker 1: Know, like during elections pandemics, you would get on there 77 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and like you get into stuff and like you're a 78 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 1: great speaker, you have a lot to say, You're an 79 00:05:21,160 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: iconic actor. So I would be fascinated watching you do 80 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,040 Speaker 1: your stuff because it's like I look at it as 81 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: performance art, you know, like I love think. 82 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,559 Speaker 2: If you can make it funny. I mean there's people 83 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: obviously who are the biggest stars in the world who 84 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: I mean, think of some movie stars who have nothing 85 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:40,039 Speaker 2: to do with social media. Very few left. Yeah, like 86 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:43,039 Speaker 2: Leo and people like you, they don't bother. He'll post 87 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 2: something to promote some environmental thing. Penguins. 88 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,000 Speaker 3: He only posts penguins and grizzly bears. 89 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 2: That's it. That's fine. 90 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,800 Speaker 3: But we know you're Leonardo, we know you're on there. 91 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, or we love Leo, but they of course. But 92 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:58,960 Speaker 2: the thing is is that once you say you don't 93 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 2: want to do you know, Hanks will do little things 94 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 2: every now and then. And who's more of a movie 95 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:08,360 Speaker 2: star than Hanks. But it depends on what you do. 96 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 2: I used to want to pontificate, yes, and I didn't 97 00:06:11,760 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 2: think it was pontificating, but other people will, Oh, it's pontificating. 98 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:19,480 Speaker 2: It's great, pontificate with pontificate. Yeah, okay, but I kind 99 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 2: of slowed down on all that now, I really. But 100 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,080 Speaker 2: the problem is is what forum do you communicate with 101 00:06:25,160 --> 00:06:29,880 Speaker 2: an audience through. You do TV interviews and they cut them. 102 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 2: You do an interview with someone and they shape it 103 00:06:32,880 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 2: and talk about you a certain way. I think I've 104 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:38,239 Speaker 2: always said this in the past. I had one guy 105 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: when I was making a movie in New Orleans. I 106 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 2: had one guy from The Times, pickyun down there, who 107 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,800 Speaker 2: actually was my favorite interview because he wrote exactly what 108 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: I said in the paper and he really had the 109 00:06:50,279 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 2: spirit of what I was trying to say. And everybody 110 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 2: else it's the new journalism where they're going, well, what 111 00:06:55,640 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 2: he really meant was what he seemed like was and 112 00:06:59,000 --> 00:07:04,200 Speaker 2: there's a element of psycho analyzing that they're not qualified 113 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: to do. I agree. I agree. 114 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Your history with the paparazzi and being followed in the 115 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: marriages and the divorces and your stuff with the paparazzi 116 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:17,520 Speaker 1: is unique, and it's been for decades. It's been for decades, right, 117 00:07:17,560 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: I mean you've this since the nineties. 118 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah. I met my ex wife in nineteen ninety Yeah. 119 00:07:21,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 1: So you've been dealing with it on a different level, like, 120 00:07:24,120 --> 00:07:25,600 Speaker 1: let's not just say what I think. 121 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 2: Is important is And again, this doesn't excuse anything. I'm 122 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,720 Speaker 2: not saying this as an excuse. I think there's a 123 00:07:31,760 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 2: profound difference between an excuse and an explanation. And the 124 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 2: explanation is that nothing was ever unprovoked. If a guy 125 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: was seventy five feet away from me with a long 126 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:44,520 Speaker 2: lens and he wanted to take my picture. I didn't care, 127 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 2: but if he walked up and he almost chipped my 128 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 2: wife's teeth with a lens of the camera. My favorite one, 129 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 2: and I don't mean favorite in terms of I enjoyed this, 130 00:07:53,680 --> 00:07:56,520 Speaker 2: but what the most absurd one was this huge guy. 131 00:07:56,560 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 2: He had to bee like six' four probably wait about two. 132 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 2: Fifty he's backing up from me with a camera and 133 00:08:02,080 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 2: he's taking my. Pictures i'm walking in the direction and 134 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:07,559 Speaker 2: he's walking backwards and he slips and falls and sits 135 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 2: on a baby in a stroller and lands on the. 136 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 2: Baby he trips and lands on my neighbor's child and 137 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 2: sits on the. Baby AND i thought to, myself this is, 138 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 2: like you, know this is really not. Right and all 139 00:08:21,760 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: of the Altercations i've had with people like, that it's 140 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:26,880 Speaker 2: always been provoked where some guy walks up and, goes you, 141 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 2: know you, know what are you doing with this? Woman my? Wife? 142 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:32,280 Speaker 2: RIGHT i mean she's a. Whore you. Know they'll say 143 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,320 Speaker 2: horrible things tobait you for that guy doesn't want the. 144 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:40,080 Speaker 2: Confrontation what he wants is for the third guy across 145 00:08:40,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: the street to film the. 146 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,480 Speaker 3: Confrontation, Right it's like three Card monty. 147 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: Guys it's the journalistic equivalent of three card Mont do 148 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 2: you find out? 149 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,600 Speaker 1: That AND i think it's good that the paparazzi they're 150 00:08:52,600 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: a little bit leery of, you WHICH i. 151 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:54,839 Speaker 3: Think is good they should. 152 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 2: BE i don't think they care Because i'm so old 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 2: now they don't think that they. CARE i really do think, 154 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:02,640 Speaker 2: that like how you. Feel AND i don't say this 155 00:09:02,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: with Any i'm not celebrating this at, all but it's 156 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 2: like you see people. NOW i, Mean i'm old enough 157 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 2: now and they'll, say, OH i went and saw this 158 00:09:11,679 --> 00:09:13,560 Speaker 2: movie with so and, so And i'm, THINKING i have 159 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 2: no idea who that. IS i don't know who anybody is. 160 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 2: ANYMORE i, Mean i'm going to be sixty five In 161 00:09:18,320 --> 00:09:21,560 Speaker 2: april AND i don't know who anybody. Is the younger, actors, 162 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 2: well we get, older, yeah and we have a different it's. 163 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:27,320 Speaker 2: Different it's Like Long. ISLAND i have with this house 164 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,160 Speaker 2: On Long island and we've been out there. Forever and 165 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 2: WHEN i first went out, there people would say the 166 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 2: old timers THAT i met would, say, oh it's. Changed 167 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:37,240 Speaker 2: AND i go home and, THINK i think it's pretty. 168 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: Great you, KNOW i just just gotten out. There Now 169 00:09:39,440 --> 00:09:41,640 Speaker 2: i've been out there for forty years and it's, changed, 170 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: Right your perspective changed when you get. 171 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 1: Older now you have on two. Watches is this A 172 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,480 Speaker 1: i got to, add what is this a child? 173 00:09:48,679 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: Cardiac this is MY ekg cardiac thing from my. Doctor, 174 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 2: yeah so it elects you. Know this is a brightling 175 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: that my wife got me THAT i. Love it's my, favorite, 176 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 2: uh the super which a lot of brightening. FANS i 177 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: have a lot of, watches As i'm sure you. 178 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:03,960 Speaker 4: DO i. 179 00:10:04,000 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: Don't this is the Only i'm not a. 180 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 1: Watch you know WHEN i stopped wearing watches WHEN i 181 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:09,640 Speaker 1: had my first kid because it would WHEN i was 182 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: holding them and always get stuck on, them and THEN i. 183 00:10:11,720 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 2: STOPPED i have a lot of, watches AND i have 184 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 2: some just stunning. Watches but THIS i wear because it's 185 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: AN ekg. Program and you do. That it bluetooths to 186 00:10:22,520 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 2: your phone and you send it to your. Doctor Because 187 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: i've been doing a lot of cardiac testing now That 188 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:28,520 Speaker 2: i'm going to be sixty. 189 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:30,839 Speaker 1: Five got to do, It gotta do it. Now let 190 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: me just say. This there's a couple of things besides 191 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 1: just your. Acting AND i said this to you the 192 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 1: one TIME i spoke to on the. Phone i've always 193 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:41,719 Speaker 1: loved that you're such a, fan a fan of. Actors 194 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 1: you're a fan of classical, music and you're you're not 195 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:47,240 Speaker 1: a shy. Fan you like to fan out on other. 196 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:49,319 Speaker 1: Actors you like to talk about your experience with other 197 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: actors that you, love that you, admire and you've done it, 198 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:56,360 Speaker 1: openly which is something THAT i really appreciate respond. TO 199 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 1: i remember at one point you WERE i don't know 200 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:00,000 Speaker 1: if you still, are but you, WERE i would think 201 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:04,200 Speaker 1: was On. Letterman you had been high on, vegetarian vegan 202 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: and all, this like you were talking about like this 203 00:11:06,679 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: was like something you were like passionate. About AND i 204 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: think you were when On letterman Or The Tonight show 205 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 1: or some show and you were just. 206 00:11:12,240 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 2: LIKE i was, like what the fuck does he? 207 00:11:13,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 3: Doing he's just talking about eating and food and are 208 00:11:16,640 --> 00:11:16,960 Speaker 3: you still? 209 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 2: Vegetarian like? WHAT i. Don't, YEAH i eat, fish and 210 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 2: even THAT i got sick of during the like my. 211 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 2: TASTES i didn't HAVE, covid at LEAST i don't THINK i. 212 00:11:26,120 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 2: DID i didn't have any positive, tests AND i lost 213 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 2: my appetite for a couple of. Days one is. Chocolate 214 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 2: i'd always like. Chocolate WELL i don't MEAN i don't hate, 215 00:11:34,640 --> 00:11:36,360 Speaker 2: it but it's, Like i'm not a chocolate. Person i'm 216 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:38,920 Speaker 2: a chocolate. PERSON i used to like, chocolate and, UH 217 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: i don't have a taste for it or ANY i was, 218 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 2: like really sweet things make me kind of, gag you. 219 00:11:44,600 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 2: KNOW i, Mean i'm trying to get my blood sugar 220 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:49,480 Speaker 2: down always all the. Time BUT i FIND i don't 221 00:11:49,480 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 2: know what you're. Like BUT i find that with my, 222 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 2: PODCAST i do it because of my. Curiosity and you, 223 00:11:57,760 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 2: know we try to have famous people, musicians, actors what have, 224 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 2: you people in the, arts, writers but we also try 225 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 2: to have people with there's some, issue like Where i'm 226 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 2: going to interview a guy tomorrow who just has a 227 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 2: book out and he was the principal obituary writer for 228 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 2: The Wall Street, journal so we want to talk to. 229 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:18,960 Speaker 2: Him we always have an array of people where the 230 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 2: topic is what's interesting to, me BUT i don't know 231 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 2: what you're. Like but you, KNOW i never want to 232 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 2: talk About like IF i go to a film, festival 233 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,360 Speaker 2: this is the best, example and they, say we want 234 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 2: you to come and be an honoree at a film. 235 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 2: Festival what film of yours do you want us to 236 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 2: show And i'll, say Oh, GOD i don't want you 237 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 2: to show any of my. MOVIES i want you to 238 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 2: Show Red river With John. WAYNE i, MEAN i. Don't 239 00:12:44,520 --> 00:12:47,400 Speaker 2: let's show a great film and we'll talk about. It 240 00:12:47,440 --> 00:12:49,640 Speaker 2: BUT i don't really like to draw attention to myself 241 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:53,360 Speaker 2: in terms of acting in my, work BECAUSE i really 242 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 2: believe That i've never once had a satisfying experience making 243 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 2: a movie my whole. Life in terms of the, work, 244 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:06,560 Speaker 2: meaning it's like when you you're honored To scorsese, says 245 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: come and do The, departed come and do the. Aviator 246 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 2: those are small roles and you're honored to be. There 247 00:13:13,760 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: you're so appreciative of all the people you're working with 248 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: WHEN i Did glengarry and things like. That but in 249 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:23,600 Speaker 2: terms of my own, satisfaction only sometimes in the theater 250 00:13:24,280 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 2: DID i feel because you can have more, time you, 251 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:29,200 Speaker 2: know you rehearse obviously and. Make but in, FILMS i 252 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:32,760 Speaker 2: can't name one Film i've ever done THAT i was fond. 253 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 3: Of during or the results. 254 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 2: Either, No, no during was the memories or of the, 255 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:41,600 Speaker 2: people the memories of the of the. TIME i never 256 00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:43,880 Speaker 2: sit there and, say, oh we shot that scene and 257 00:13:44,240 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 2: watch HOW i say this. LINE i just don't even 258 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 2: bother with. That But i'll sit there and, go you, 259 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 2: Know i'll never forget talking To Jack, lemon or talking 260 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: To GEORGE. C scott or someone THAT i really deeply, admired. 261 00:13:56,960 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 3: Driving in the van and hearing those. 262 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 2: Things people come on And i'll see a scene And 263 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 2: i'll GO i remember that. Day that's WHEN i had 264 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:07,040 Speaker 2: a flat tire on The Ventura freeway AND i was 265 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:08,920 Speaker 2: late to work it, out you, know whatever it. Was 266 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,480 Speaker 2: BUT i never look at films of mine and go watch, 267 00:14:11,559 --> 00:14:13,480 Speaker 2: this you know WHAT i? Mean, Like i'm but do 268 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:15,600 Speaker 2: you digging? IT i mean it's probably changed throughout the. 269 00:14:15,679 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 1: Years but when you're working on a set and you're 270 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 1: doing a scene in a good movie or a good, 271 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 1: show are you struggling to satisfy? Yourself like are you 272 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: able to sort of self direct and self? Monitor Like 273 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: i've gotten to the point where AND i think some 274 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: of it is because When i've done, television directors come 275 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: in and out where you. Go that was good to, 276 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: Myself like BECAUSE i can't defer to a, stranger you, 277 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: KNOW i can't defer to somebody's you, know like when 278 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 1: as a young, actor, like was that? 279 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 2: Good was that? 280 00:14:45,840 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 1: Good but do you struggle in between? Takes do you 281 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:51,760 Speaker 1: like when you say nothing's ever been? Satisfying you don't 282 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:55,000 Speaker 1: go home and GO i did WHAT i attempted my. 283 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 2: Goals WHEN i think about it as WHAT i should have, done, 284 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 2: REALLY i go home AND i GO i ALWAYS i 285 00:14:59,840 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: do WHAT i call rearview mirror. ACTING i look at 286 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 2: myself in the rear view, mirror And i'll go listen to, Me, 287 00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:09,400 Speaker 2: Bob i'll say the line, right AND i, go, oh 288 00:15:09,440 --> 00:15:11,640 Speaker 2: that's HOW i should have said the. Line, but like 289 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 2: you were, saying we all have had to become self. 290 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 2: Directing there's more jobs out, there there's more square mileage 291 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 2: now in the business than there are good. Directors, yes 292 00:15:23,080 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: and so when you go in we've all had to 293 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: develop that self directing. Muscle when you go on the 294 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 2: set and you're with a great director Like marty or 295 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 2: somebody like, that you just stand there and you know 296 00:15:35,200 --> 00:15:37,760 Speaker 2: he's got it worked. Out he's got it worked. Out 297 00:15:37,800 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 2: he knows what he wants to see and he knows 298 00:15:39,240 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 2: the rhythm of. It say that line, faster come in, 299 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: quicker do? This do? That you welcome, that but with 300 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 2: a lot of other. People now you go in and 301 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 2: you've made up my age here there Saying i've made 302 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 2: more movies than everybody on this. Set i know more 303 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 2: about acting than everybody on this. Set Unless i'm with 304 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:59,560 Speaker 2: somebody who's one of the, greats AND i just you 305 00:15:59,640 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 2: have to Be it's, tough do You i'd rather be, directed. 306 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 3: And what do you makes a great? 307 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 1: Director you've worked With Woody, allen WHO i worked with 308 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,880 Speaker 1: who is director list almost and it's almost actor. Proof 309 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: i've never worked With, scorsese the director you, Loved Woody Spike, 310 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: Lee Tony scott for different, Reasons nora. E fron for different. 311 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: Reasons But i've never all those directors THAT i worked. 312 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: With it wasn't the, direction it was the confidence they 313 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: gave you or the belief they gave. You even With Woody, 314 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,040 Speaker 1: allen where you do one or two takes and you go, 315 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: well at, first it was like what the fuck you, 316 00:16:40,960 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 1: like you, Know i've been practicing this for six, months 317 00:16:42,880 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: like you, know but then you, know, well he knows 318 00:16:45,520 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: he's got, it even though you want to keep going. 319 00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 2: Because you're having such a good. 320 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: Time, Yeah Like Nora, EFRON i would ask her, question she'd, 321 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 1: GO i don't, know but let's figure it out. Later Tony, 322 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: scott similar, Thing Spike lee and and you shit With. 323 00:16:57,560 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 2: Tony tony's got true. 324 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: Romance AND i was really, YOUNG i MEAN i was 325 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,480 Speaker 1: twenty four and, impress you. KNOW i was, like you, 326 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: know and on the Sets Christopher, Walken Val kilmer And Christian, 327 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: leaner And i'm. 328 00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 2: Like what the big? People you? 329 00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:12,280 Speaker 1: Know but he made me feel, like you, Know i'm 330 00:17:12,320 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 1: trying to act or shit like. This he, goes that's, 331 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:16,840 Speaker 1: good that's not, good but keep asking me. Questions and 332 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:19,000 Speaker 1: that made me feel like all. Right but you know 333 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 1: when people ask me non actors like what is a? 334 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,600 Speaker 1: Director i've never had like a magic sauce or somebody 335 00:17:24,640 --> 00:17:26,680 Speaker 1: sort of wave a magic wand and you're, like, oh that's. 336 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 2: It look for, you what is a good? Director, WELL 337 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 2: i mean one thing that comes to mind that they're 338 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 2: in reference to what you said THAT i. Thought what 339 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: was interesting WAS i had a director once say to, 340 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,119 Speaker 2: me And i'll never forget, This and it was not 341 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 2: in the beginning of my, career was later in my, 342 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: career and he said to, me we will do a 343 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,560 Speaker 2: couple more. Takes AND i said that maybe we're like 344 00:17:47,920 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: four or five takes and he. Goes he, GOES i 345 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 2: think we got, it AND i know that everybody's in 346 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 2: a hurry time why they want to move? On and 347 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: if they got? It AND i, go can we do 348 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:58,680 Speaker 2: one or two more? Takes he, goes, yeah he, goes 349 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:00,040 Speaker 2: BUT i just want you to keep in, mind he, 350 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 2: goes sometimes you knock the guy out in the first. 351 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:05,320 Speaker 2: Round sometimes you knock him out in the tenth. Round he, 352 00:18:05,320 --> 00:18:07,880 Speaker 2: goes what does it? Matter you knocked him, Out that's 353 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 2: all that. Matters you probably would rather knock him out 354 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: in the first or the second round to get, it 355 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,560 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean he, Said you, know sometimes 356 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 2: we get it, early, right and sometimes we. Don't And 357 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: i'll tell. You AND i trusted him once he said. 358 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: THAT i trusted that he was observing things in a 359 00:18:22,000 --> 00:18:25,520 Speaker 2: way THAT i could. Appreciate and for, me a good 360 00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:30,919 Speaker 2: director is somebody who they make you see the movie 361 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 2: like a. SYMPHONY a symphony has its highs and. Lows 362 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 2: it's adagios and it's pitsicados and what have. You AND 363 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 2: i want someone who they're going to tell me what 364 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 2: AM i in their? Movie like an ingredient in a. 365 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 2: SALAD i don't need to come in here and jerk 366 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:52,919 Speaker 2: off and make myself look powerful and clever and all 367 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 2: these other. Things what AM i in your? Movie and 368 00:18:56,400 --> 00:18:58,400 Speaker 2: tell me That one of the THINGS i do now 369 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,199 Speaker 2: and have for the last Several i'll, say tell me 370 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 2: the story of the. Movie tell me about your movie 371 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 2: like it's a. Story and you'd be surprised how many 372 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 2: directors can't do. That it's a good. Question but then 373 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,879 Speaker 2: there's ones who will tell it to, Me, well this 374 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:13,680 Speaker 2: is a story about a guy or a woman or, 375 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:17,240 Speaker 2: whatever AND i only want to come in and give 376 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,720 Speaker 2: you what you need in the movie and resist that 377 00:19:20,800 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 2: temptation to want to pull focus and do too. Much you, Know, podcast. 378 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: You've worked With woody on a couple of times throughout the, 379 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:49,160 Speaker 1: years smaller. Parts do you enjoy when he would give 380 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: you only your scenes in the? 381 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:56,080 Speaker 2: Script, WELL i. Didn't you. Know, listen when you work With, 382 00:19:56,119 --> 00:20:00,160 Speaker 2: woody you're working with somebody Who we were In italy 383 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,720 Speaker 2: for the opening of To rome With love With Jesse 384 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:08,880 Speaker 2: eisenberg And Greta gerwig And Elliott. Page we were there 385 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 2: and the, press The italian press really only wanted to 386 00:20:12,359 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 2: talk To, woody so all of us are on a 387 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 2: dais and they'd, say, okay you and the reporter would, 388 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 2: go wood you have a question for The woody and 389 00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 2: they'd ask what You finally they asked us a, question 390 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:26,200 Speaker 2: what does this mean to? You you, know to work With? 391 00:20:26,240 --> 00:20:29,440 Speaker 2: Woody AND i had worked with him in this Movie 392 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 2: Alice yes with me years, ago AND i, said you, 393 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:35,719 Speaker 2: know the thing About woody is is that as a, 394 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 2: star as a comedic, performer as a movie, star as a, writer, 395 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:43,200 Speaker 2: producer what have? YOU i, Said the thing that you 396 00:20:43,320 --> 00:20:45,200 Speaker 2: got to remember is that first and foremost wood he 397 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 2: is a. Writer and at the corner of my ae at 398 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 2: the end of the, tip you Saw woody nod Like 399 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:51,560 Speaker 2: that's the. THING i think he takes the greatest pride 400 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 2: in that he writes these, movies these movies which are 401 00:20:55,440 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 2: Like i'm not joking WHEN i, say If i'm really, 402 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:01,840 Speaker 2: depressed like IF i can't get out of, bed and 403 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 2: which those days are not often with seven, children but 404 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:07,679 Speaker 2: If i'm really, down THEN i really don't feel like 405 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:09,760 Speaker 2: the world is What i'd like it to. BE i 406 00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:12,919 Speaker 2: Watched Broadway Danny, rose AND i feel, Great i'm on my, 407 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 2: feet you know WHAT i? MEAN i, mean like the 408 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: brilliance of that writing and the way he timed that 409 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 2: movie and with, him it's. Ridiculous, Yeah AND i mean 410 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,119 Speaker 2: it's like with, him that film particularly is. 411 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: Ridiculous it's so goddamn good, cinematically the, writing the, blocking the, 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:35,480 Speaker 1: cinematography the, editing the way he sets up the shots. 413 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 2: THAT i was just talking about. IT i watched maybe six. 414 00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 2: HOURS i watched that movie all the, time fawning over. 415 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 2: IT i watched it with all the. Time who's the cheese? 416 00:21:42,119 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: Eater we May god forgive Me Bonnie? Done then they 417 00:21:47,160 --> 00:21:50,200 Speaker 2: cut back to the guys at the Cafe Bonnie. Done 418 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 2: you remember he was the stuttering Ventriloquist. SODANNY i mean 419 00:21:56,000 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 2: that whole, SEQUENCE i am just crying, laughing. 420 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:01,439 Speaker 1: And the mobsters in the mom faces that, like you, 421 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:03,119 Speaker 1: know making it's one of the first ones where they 422 00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: made mobsters. 423 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 2: Funny, yeah you. 424 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:06,800 Speaker 1: Know it came with a time where like you, know 425 00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:08,720 Speaker 1: like he's like sort of comedic mobs. 426 00:22:08,480 --> 00:22:11,240 Speaker 2: Are and, Aiies johnny are you in? Aries he says 427 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 2: to them up on the. Bout. YEAH i, mean but 428 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,359 Speaker 2: the thing is is that it's, like what's something that 429 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 2: can or movies that you can go back to that 430 00:22:19,640 --> 00:22:22,800 Speaker 2: really just resonate for. YOU i, MEAN i love old. 431 00:22:22,840 --> 00:22:25,920 Speaker 2: Movies When Bob osborne was, alive he had me come 432 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,760 Speaker 2: down and do a lot of this guest programming with 433 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,320 Speaker 2: him On Turner Classic. MOVIES i tell you it was 434 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 2: one of the greatest times of my. LIFE i Love. 435 00:22:33,160 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 2: Bob he was the loveliest guy in this. Business he 436 00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:38,199 Speaker 2: invited me to come down there and do three rounds of. 437 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 2: That eventually the producers were, like get him out of, 438 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:42,639 Speaker 2: here you, know we know enough of. Him BUT i 439 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 2: came down and did it With bob three, times and 440 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:49,000 Speaker 2: we did the wrap rounds for The, essentials and you, 441 00:22:49,040 --> 00:22:51,080 Speaker 2: know they'd send me the discs and they'd, say you, 442 00:22:51,119 --> 00:22:53,639 Speaker 2: know watch these. Movies and some of THEM i didn't have, 443 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,040 Speaker 2: to like half of them or. MORE i didn't have 444 00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,280 Speaker 2: to Because i'd seen him. Already and THEN i watched 445 00:22:57,320 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 2: some THAT i Didn't i'd never seen. Before AND i 446 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:05,719 Speaker 2: think people have forgotten movies that can actually reach inside of, 447 00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:07,959 Speaker 2: you you, KNOW i, mean it really affect. YOU i. 448 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,479 Speaker 2: AGREE i think that more and more movies now are 449 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:11,040 Speaker 2: as just. 450 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:14,240 Speaker 1: Escape you, know AND i think movies in general Are 451 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 1: it's a really sad you. 452 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: KNOW i was WATCHING tutsi this. 453 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:21,119 Speaker 1: Weekend you, Know i'm, like this is not even close 454 00:23:21,160 --> 00:23:23,800 Speaker 1: to being ever made ever, Again like why would this ever? 455 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: Be you, know it's never going to be made. Again 456 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 1: it'd be some, weird, obscure tiny movie that maybe would. 457 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: Make it To sundance and do well At. Sundance and 458 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,280 Speaker 3: this is a. 459 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,359 Speaker 2: Baby it wouldn't get. Made it wouldn't get. Made that 460 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:35,639 Speaker 2: have to be. 461 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,760 Speaker 1: Appropriation oh all of, it, yeah the whole, thing but 462 00:23:38,920 --> 00:23:40,879 Speaker 1: just the kind of, movie the way it was. SHOT 463 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: i know you're a fan Of, scorsese and it's funny 464 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: because you mentioned THE Tnt classic movies that was almost 465 00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: like a podcast before, podcasts and that's one of the 466 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,359 Speaker 1: things WHERE i was, like and this, is you, know 467 00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,959 Speaker 1: in the nineties when you're a, star but you're talking about, 468 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: films WHICH i really love that AND i respect. THAT 469 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: i know you're a. Scorse oh, YEAH i know you 470 00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,520 Speaker 1: were a fan before you started working as an. Actor, 471 00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: yes what was your departed, experience your aviator? Experience what 472 00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 1: is it like being on set With Martin scorsese as 473 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:17,480 Speaker 1: a director and how do you separate fan and now 474 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,000 Speaker 1: we're working. 475 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 2: Together, WELL i did a lot of even though it 476 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,480 Speaker 2: wasn't necessarily applicable to the to the. SHOOTING i did 477 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:29,080 Speaker 2: a lot of research for The aviator Because Juan tripp 478 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:34,239 Speaker 2: president AND i, guess the founder of PAN. Am his 479 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 2: family lived In East. Hampton his Daughter, betsy who was 480 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 2: married to this. Guy her name Was Betsy, devecki friends 481 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 2: of mine Neew. Or she was, older AND i got 482 00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 2: connected with her and WHEN i sat and had lunch 483 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 2: with her and talked to her for a very long 484 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,439 Speaker 2: time about her, dad and she described what he was 485 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:56,439 Speaker 2: like and and she said to, me at one, point you, 486 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,440 Speaker 2: know a very very elegant. Woman and she, said she, goes, 487 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 2: WELL i see where You're my dad is going to 488 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 2: say that horrible word BECAUSE i say fuck at one, 489 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,320 Speaker 2: point and she, GOES i see he's going to say 490 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: that horrible. Word she his dad would never say that. 491 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:14,360 Speaker 2: Word he would never say that. Word SO i called 492 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:16,840 Speaker 2: Up marty AND i, GO i don't know what to. 493 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:19,359 Speaker 2: Say but she said that he probably wouldn't say that. 494 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:23,679 Speaker 2: Word AND i, said long, pause And marty, GOES i 495 00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 2: need you to say. Fuck it's like but you AND 496 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,560 Speaker 2: i love. That like here's the. Clarity here's WHAT i 497 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: want you to. Do this is my. Movie and then 498 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 2: when we Did, aviator that's. Cool we shot the scenes 499 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 2: Very we did the one scene in the, restaurant but 500 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,679 Speaker 2: the stuff Where i'm out the door And i'm kind 501 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 2: of Taunting, leo we shot those very quickly because it 502 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,439 Speaker 2: was a whole day Of. Leo remember the, Milk remember the, 503 00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: Milk remember the? Milk you, Know leo naked in the 504 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 2: other room with the bottles of piss. Everywhere, Yeah and 505 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 2: they wanted to get this as efficiently as, possible AND 506 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 2: i understood the to move on to number one on 507 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: the call sheet and Get leo cracking up inside that. 508 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: Room so we did, that and then on The, DEPARTED 509 00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 2: i just remember it was like a lot of, testosterone 510 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i. Mean wahlberg And matt And leo 511 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 2: and all these guys. There AND i didn't have any 512 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,360 Speaker 2: scenes With, jack BUT i Remember marty was in really good. 513 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:24,600 Speaker 2: SPIRITS i think he was excited to make that. Movie, 514 00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: oh very. 515 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 3: Excited is he in complete control of this? 516 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: Set, like is he very clear on what he's doing 517 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,480 Speaker 1: or is he finding it as he's going shot to. 518 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 2: SHOT i would imagine other people who have a more 519 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 2: profound history with, him it's, different, Right i'm sure that 520 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 2: he And bob have a different you know thing And 521 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:44,240 Speaker 2: peshi And i'm sure and When leo, now Because leo's 522 00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:48,479 Speaker 2: his muse. Now BUT i think that when you were 523 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 2: working with him and the guys that know what they, 524 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,720 Speaker 2: Want mike Nichols i had that small part and working, 525 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 2: girl you just stand there and just you, know say, sir, yes, 526 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,200 Speaker 2: sir you know because they, know. Right but when you're 527 00:26:59,240 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: with other guys who sit there and, go what do 528 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 2: you think how the scene? Shod that's when you're in. 529 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,240 Speaker 2: Trouble well you have to develop that muscle to think 530 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 2: about that and to have some answer to that. 531 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: Eventually but what do you say to? That because that 532 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:14,639 Speaker 1: makes me? Nervous what do you think how the scene should? 533 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 2: Go on the basis that when you're in a scene 534 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 2: with other, people you're being asked to give an, opinion 535 00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: and then if the director isn't going to take, control 536 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,080 Speaker 2: they're trying to get you to appeal to the other 537 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:31,920 Speaker 2: actor and sell them on your. Idea if you're working 538 00:27:31,960 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 2: with another actor who doesn't want that responsibility to, say 539 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:37,160 Speaker 2: and you're sitting there, going, WELL i thought i'd walk, 540 00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 2: in BUT i wouldn't sit down BECAUSE i want to 541 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,920 Speaker 2: feel there's a certain. Tension then that tension gets relieved 542 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,520 Speaker 2: when you say blah blah. Blah THEN i, say you, 543 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,239 Speaker 2: know whatever your thing, is and you're talking about the, 544 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 2: scene you got to sell the director and the OTHER 545 00:27:50,480 --> 00:27:52,840 Speaker 2: i like when the director walks in and, Goes Rob, 546 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:57,360 Speaker 2: reiner come, in sit, down turn sit you, know get 547 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:00,360 Speaker 2: the bottle of, water Say. Charlie he's got a little worked. 548 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,280 Speaker 2: Out and he just says to you and you, say, 549 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:05,280 Speaker 2: great tell me what movie you want me to make? 550 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,240 Speaker 2: Right Because i'm not gonna cut the. Movie i'm not 551 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:11,200 Speaker 2: making the movie. Right and in the theater you can 552 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,920 Speaker 2: rehearse and you're working with if it's a, revival you're 553 00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:16,720 Speaker 2: working with material that works. Well and in the theater 554 00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 2: you can have MORE i, mean once you open especially 555 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 2: and the director is, gone you can have a little 556 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:26,520 Speaker 2: bit more nuance of. Whatever but in, movies the rule 557 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:29,879 Speaker 2: to remember is you're not making the. Movie he's or 558 00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,760 Speaker 2: she they're making the movie, right, director and you need 559 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,119 Speaker 2: to just say what CAN i give you? Right because 560 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:36,560 Speaker 2: IF i don't give you what you need and you 561 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,200 Speaker 2: go into the cutting, room you, know then everybody's. MISERABLE i. 562 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: Agree you work with so many. PEOPLE i want to 563 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:46,640 Speaker 1: play a game of what makes them? Great, Okay i'm 564 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: gonna name different, actors AND i want you to say 565 00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:52,240 Speaker 1: what makes them? Great Blue jasmine is really one of 566 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 1: my favorite films and a ridiculous, performance ridiculous, Character the 567 00:28:58,040 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: writing and the performance From blue Jabs Kate. 568 00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 3: Blanchett what Makes Kate blanchet? Green she's. 569 00:29:02,720 --> 00:29:07,520 Speaker 2: Indefatigable she just has energy to. Spare she's got no self. 570 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 2: Pity she's NOT i, mean there are men and WOMEN 571 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 2: i work with who not, MANY i don't want to 572 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,720 Speaker 2: say not, many who were very indulgent and it's all 573 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 2: like my, hair and they're in the makeup trailer for 574 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 2: a long time and they get on the set and 575 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 2: they touch them up, again and everything is like like 576 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 2: we're posing for a still, camera like for. Photography And 577 00:29:26,760 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: kate is somebody who was like fuck. That she went 578 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: out in the hallway and drank like two espressos and 579 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,360 Speaker 2: she'd come back in the room and we had to 580 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 2: do this fight. Scene and she's just really really, tough 581 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 2: and she's really really blazingly, talented but she really really 582 00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:46,600 Speaker 2: just had bottomless. Energy she could do take after take aftery're. Taking, 583 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 2: YEAH i thought she was gonna clock me right in 584 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,560 Speaker 2: the face one, scene AND i was, like go right, 585 00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:53,040 Speaker 2: AHEAD i don't give a. Shit this is amazing watching 586 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 2: you do. 587 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 3: This SO i love, That, Yeah, DAN i love that so. 588 00:29:57,520 --> 00:29:59,760 Speaker 3: Much Powerful Ed? Harris what makes him? 589 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:03,440 Speaker 2: Great, WELL i Think ed is someone who has the 590 00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 2: great blessing of the great movie stars where he has 591 00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:12,040 Speaker 2: the facial. Symmetry ed's, face the mask of his face 592 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 2: pulls you. In he's so compelling looking those big watery 593 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:20,200 Speaker 2: blue eyes of his and that real cowboy you, know, 594 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 2: tough square jaw. Thing and he can dial UP i 595 00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,640 Speaker 2: don't want to say, menace but an aggression and he 596 00:30:28,680 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 2: can dial it down and be very sweet as. Well 597 00:30:30,840 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 2: so we can DO i always call this my, phrases 598 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 2: the sweet and. Sour he can do the sweet and. 599 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 2: Sour and a lot of it has to do from 600 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 2: most movie stars THAT i can recall the ones that 601 00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 2: are the most, memorable the people who you can see 602 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:47,440 Speaker 2: into their. Eyes they used to say that if you 603 00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: were working with an actor who you couldn't see into their, 604 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 2: eyes they play a. Villain m that the hero always 605 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 2: had to be someone you could read them and look 606 00:30:55,520 --> 00:31:00,160 Speaker 2: into their. Soul And ed just has that amazing face of, 607 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 2: his you know WHAT i, mean and always has And 608 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 2: i've always been jealous of him because he's guys just 609 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,720 Speaker 2: got this enigmatic face all the. TIME i love. 610 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: That Meryl, streep Who i'm sure you were a fan 611 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: of before you started working as a film. Actor you 612 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: got to work with, her play with. Her what MAKES 613 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: i mean if you could even get into what. 614 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 2: That's tough because there's so many things to. Say but 615 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 2: from my, EXPERIENCE i would say that with, her she 616 00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:27,880 Speaker 2: doesn't let anything throw. Her she doesn't get upset about. 617 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 2: Anything she doesn't allow, anything this is just my opinion 618 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 2: to blow her sales off the course that she's, on 619 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,840 Speaker 2: if the scene isn't going the way the director wants 620 00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: or the you, know whatever is happening in the scene 621 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 2: or off the set or what have, you she comes 622 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,640 Speaker 2: on the set and she is, gracious and she is 623 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:55,040 Speaker 2: wise and she's. GENEROUS i, mean she's all the things 624 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 2: you'd want a legendary actor or actress to be toward 625 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 2: you if you weren't really at their level and you were. 626 00:32:02,040 --> 00:32:07,560 Speaker 2: Intimidated because WHEN i did the movie with. Her the 627 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 2: Director Nancy meyer said to, me she's nine years older than, 628 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:15,880 Speaker 2: you and the men in the movie business have no 629 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:19,480 Speaker 2: problem dating and dialing down the ages of their leading 630 00:32:19,560 --> 00:32:23,360 Speaker 2: ladies some twenty twenty five. Years it's, ridiculous she, said 631 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 2: the men do. That why doesn't it's complicated as the 632 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,920 Speaker 2: movie and she, said how do you feel about? THAT i, said, 633 00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 2: LISTEN i, said my character doesn't want to have sex 634 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: with his, wife his ex. Wife he's still in love 635 00:32:36,600 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 2: with his ex. Wife there's a big. Difference And merrill 636 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 2: is a very easy person to fall in love. With 637 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 2: so when we did the, movie it didn't make any 638 00:32:44,280 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 2: difference to me about age and. Whatever And merrill is 639 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 2: a very easy person to fall in love. With, yes he's, 640 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 2: amazing great. 641 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:54,880 Speaker 1: Person WHAT i love this, film smaller Film Miami, blues 642 00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 1: the Great Jennifer Jason. 643 00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 2: Lee. 644 00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: Yeah what makes her? 645 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:06,240 Speaker 2: Great fearless and no self, consciousness and you know she 646 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,280 Speaker 2: was there were many things THAT i liked about. Her and, 647 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 2: SUBTLETY i mean she was she is a master of 648 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 2: subtlety and did all these little small things and with 649 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,920 Speaker 2: facially and what have. You but she was. Fearless like one, 650 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:20,840 Speaker 2: time we're doing a scene AND i have to have 651 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,880 Speaker 2: sex with her or just you see the early blushes of, 652 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 2: that And i'll never Beget she turned to. ME i 653 00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 2: didn't know, her and she, goes, now you can do 654 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 2: anything you want to me in the. Scene and when 655 00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,440 Speaker 2: they say, cut you have to. Stop but, like whatever 656 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 2: impulse you have to, do as long as you don't hurt. 657 00:33:37,840 --> 00:33:40,360 Speaker 2: Me she, goes whatever impulse you have to do. Something she, 658 00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:42,280 Speaker 2: goes you can do it in the. Scene but when 659 00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 2: they say, cut you. Stop she's, like you, understand And 660 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 2: i'm like And i'm, like, yeah oh, yeah, yeah, YEAH i. 661 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: Understand and that's an Interesting she was very VERY i 662 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 2: don't want to just say. Professional she's very. WISE i. 663 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 2: Agree he's a woman that showed up on the set 664 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 2: of a. Film she was very, young and you, know 665 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 2: it's like what Made Brando. Brando brando figured it out 666 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:12,160 Speaker 2: while he still had the sheen of his youth and his. 667 00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 2: Beauty they handed him A rubik's cube that meant the 668 00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 2: highest level of virtuasac film, acting and he, went it's 669 00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: it's it's it and he, went you mean like, this 670 00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: and everybody was, like oh my. God and he figured 671 00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:28,000 Speaker 2: it out so young that where were the challenges for 672 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:31,080 Speaker 2: him later, on which is why he became so. Petulant, 673 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 2: yeah And jennifer was kind of the same Way Kristin 674 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 2: Stewart Christus. STUART i MEAN i turned to her when 675 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 2: we Did Still, alice AND i made a fool of 676 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 2: myself AND i said to, her we're doing a scene 677 00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,120 Speaker 2: AND i, go you remind me Of Marlon. Brando she 678 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,160 Speaker 2: looks at, me like, what AND i, GO i, SAID 679 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:49,839 Speaker 2: i have no idea what you're going to? Do take 680 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:54,360 Speaker 2: to take to, Take and the variety wasn't that wide, 681 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: ranging but she would do little things and little, things 682 00:34:57,640 --> 00:35:00,000 Speaker 2: AND i think That Kristin stewart is a great. ACTRESS 683 00:35:00,360 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 2: i do. 684 00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 1: Too are you a take to take person in terms 685 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 1: of try, this try, that try, this try, that or. 686 00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:08,759 Speaker 2: Are you like this is this sort of? 687 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,600 Speaker 3: PARAMETER i mean there's a little, tries but, like are 688 00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 3: you LIKE i want to do one? 689 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,359 Speaker 1: LOUD i want to do one not, LOUD i want 690 00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:14,880 Speaker 1: to do one, SOFT i want to do one. 691 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 2: Angry where do you? APPROACH i think what it comes 692 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,279 Speaker 2: down to for me is that WHEN i see the 693 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: movie and if the director agrees with, me there's a 694 00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:26,320 Speaker 2: music to it there's a. Rhythm if the scene, Says 695 00:35:27,280 --> 00:35:29,160 Speaker 2: jack drives up in a, car gets out of the, 696 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 2: car goes into the, bank let's just shoot the fucking shot. 697 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,360 Speaker 2: Twice get out of the, car go go in to the, 698 00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:36,160 Speaker 2: bank and let's move. On because we can't love every. 699 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,880 Speaker 2: Scene and then when you're in the scenes with people 700 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 2: that you are, more they're a little bit more intense 701 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 2: and more. LAYERED i like. TO i, MEAN i have 702 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 2: a silly, rule especially IF i work with younger, actors 703 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 2: WHERE i, say let's do it, slow, medium and fast 704 00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:56,439 Speaker 2: in terms of the. Pace because there are Scenes i've 705 00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 2: SEEN i can't quantify how, many but there are Scenes 706 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:03,319 Speaker 2: i've seen in films That i've done where they cut 707 00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,920 Speaker 2: the scene because you can't speed up the energy of 708 00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:09,840 Speaker 2: the scene in. Editing interesting if people are doing the 709 00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 2: scene and they're kind of, like you know a lot 710 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,520 Speaker 2: of young actors do. This. Ready see you AND i 711 00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 2: do a scene and they, go what time is? 712 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,920 Speaker 5: It it's, uh it's five to. 713 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:27,919 Speaker 2: Eleven did you say five to? Eleven, no now it's 714 00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,719 Speaker 2: four to. ELEVEN i know what you, mean and you 715 00:36:30,760 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: want to. Go you got to energize the, scene, right 716 00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: because you know what's going to. Happen they're going to 717 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 2: cut the scene right if it sits. Different SO i 718 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: always see if, people let's pace it. Up that's. Smart, 719 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,520 Speaker 2: up pace it, up pace it. Up that's. Smart we'll 720 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,600 Speaker 2: have a better chance of being in the. MOVIE i got. 721 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 2: You that's my. Opinion that's. Smart that's. 722 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: Smart you didn't get to work with them In. Glengarry 723 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: what makes Al pacino? Great you've spoken about, Them you've 724 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,080 Speaker 1: done impressions of. Them you're a fan of. 725 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,239 Speaker 2: His, passion, passion he, says even to this, day even 726 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 2: to this. Day we did the thing for the, studio 727 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,560 Speaker 2: The Actor's. Studio it's their seventy fifth, year their anniversary last, 728 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:10,000 Speaker 2: year and now the celebration and the programming to celebrate 729 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 2: the studios seventy fifth anniversary overlaps this, year this past 730 00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:19,160 Speaker 2: fall into next, spring this, spring and they had they 731 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,719 Speaker 2: Showed Dog day afternoon at some famous movie theater THAT i. 732 00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:24,759 Speaker 2: Forgot it's up In harlem or way. Uptown it's like 733 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: up one hundred and thirty Fifth, street and this theater is, 734 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,160 Speaker 2: Gigantic like, see it's LIKE i don't know. Where it 735 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:33,840 Speaker 2: was like two thousand, people, wow twenty two hundred. People 736 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,359 Speaker 2: it's like a big music hall or. WHATEVER i don't 737 00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:37,680 Speaker 2: know the name of, it BUT i think it's a 738 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 2: it's a it's a movie theater because they're screening the. 739 00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:43,560 Speaker 2: Film they Showed Dog. Day places. Packed now many people 740 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,239 Speaker 2: BOUGHT vip tickets and to benefit the studio to go 741 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 2: to a little party, afterwards you, know backstage and, then 742 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:52,799 Speaker 2: but the bulk of the people, there or the overwhelming 743 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:54,720 Speaker 2: majority of people, there are there to watch the. MOVIE 744 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 2: i mean they fill a theater way uptown In New 745 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 2: york in the dead of, winter was pretty, cold and 746 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,440 Speaker 2: Showed Dog day, afternoon and THEN i Interview al afterward on. 747 00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 2: Stage we come out and we do a LITTLE q AND. 748 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,279 Speaker 2: A AND i, mean you, know people are like pissing their, 749 00:38:11,320 --> 00:38:13,840 Speaker 2: pants you, know they just love. Him al is somebody 750 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 2: WHO i, Mean i've said this, before AND i feel 751 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 2: bad to repeat, this but it's the only THING i 752 00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,040 Speaker 2: can think, of and that IS i said other. ACTORS 753 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,640 Speaker 2: i said this at The Lincoln center tribute To, AL i, 754 00:38:26,680 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 2: said other. Actors when the movie's, over you're. Done they've 755 00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 2: made you, laugh they've scared, you they've thrilled, you they've terrified. 756 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,040 Speaker 2: You they've made you fall in. Love they've done all 757 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 2: these things and they're very, funny or they're very, charming 758 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 2: or they're very, sexy what have. You but when the movie's, 759 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,920 Speaker 2: over you're done with. Them you're ready to get out 760 00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,760 Speaker 2: of the. THEATER i said With, al you're never done 761 00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,839 Speaker 2: when the movie. Ends you want to go, no, no, no, 762 00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,400 Speaker 2: no you know you want. More there's a humanity To, 763 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:01,080 Speaker 2: al there's a sensuality to OUR i, Mean al has, 764 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,680 Speaker 2: everything and he still Loves he got up there and 765 00:39:05,719 --> 00:39:08,440 Speaker 2: he was talking to the audience and he would make 766 00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:11,400 Speaker 2: these comments and you could just tell he still loves, 767 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,400 Speaker 2: acting loves, it loves, it loves. 768 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,719 Speaker 3: It what did you think rewatching Dog? 769 00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:21,520 Speaker 2: Day how sad it was That kazal. Died kaz was. 770 00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 2: GREAT i, mean Kaz al was so. Great he was so. 771 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:29,520 Speaker 2: Great you know a Deer, hunter you know Here hunter 772 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:32,239 Speaker 2: is a movie that's really tough to. Watch it's a tough. 773 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,080 Speaker 2: Movie it's a tough to. Watch but the people who Like, 774 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 2: bob you know this is this and you look At 775 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:39,799 Speaker 2: bob and you're, like you, KNOW. 776 00:39:40,200 --> 00:39:42,680 Speaker 3: I was gonna pivot To. Bob you got to Interview 777 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,439 Speaker 3: bob on YOUR. 778 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:48,319 Speaker 2: Nbc show THAT Abc, SHOW Abc. Show you Love bob 779 00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 2: LIKE i Love. 780 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,560 Speaker 3: Bob you got to work With bob as a. 781 00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,800 Speaker 1: Director just you were, GONNA i, interrupted you Like, bob 782 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,880 Speaker 1: talk to me About bob break. Down Bob DeNiro is an. 783 00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: Actor it's when you interviewed. Him were you able to 784 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: get BECAUSE i got to be, Honest, alec when you 785 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,920 Speaker 1: got to INTERVIEW i was jealous BECAUSE i was, LIKE 786 00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:08,960 Speaker 1: i want to, interview But i've yet to see someone 787 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:10,359 Speaker 1: get and you were. 788 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:13,319 Speaker 3: Trying i've yet to see him and likes to talk about. 789 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,000 Speaker 2: HIM i get him on the. Phone THEN i. Go he, 790 00:40:16,080 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 2: goes you want me to do this show of? Yours? 791 00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:22,839 Speaker 2: Okay and he said the people told me it's an. 792 00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,879 Speaker 2: Hour it's an. Hour what are we going to talk 793 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:29,640 Speaker 2: about for an? Hour AND i like kind of froze 794 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:32,040 Speaker 2: AND i, said, WELL i thought we would start with 795 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,359 Speaker 2: your movie. Career maybe that would take us through an. 796 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,680 Speaker 2: Hour he was, like you're very, Funny, Alec you're very. 797 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:42,200 Speaker 2: Funny and he comes and WHAT i THINK i said 798 00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:44,160 Speaker 2: to him THAT i really meant and he was very 799 00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 2: kind about this and accepted this WAS i, said do 800 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:50,040 Speaker 2: you realize how much you mean to other? PEOPLE i, 801 00:40:50,080 --> 00:40:54,160 Speaker 2: said people come to acting as a fan of other people's. 802 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:59,240 Speaker 2: Acting when you love, ACTING i don't know one. PERSON 803 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,240 Speaker 2: i don't know one person who came into this business 804 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: in film AND. Tv and of, course the array can be. 805 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 2: Anything it could be The Dick Van Dyke. Show it 806 00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: could Be Raging, bull you don't give a. Shit it 807 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 2: can be, friends it can be A. Superman people come 808 00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,359 Speaker 2: into the business and they spent significant parts of their 809 00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:23,800 Speaker 2: life appreciating other people and watching other people and having 810 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,120 Speaker 2: borderline obsessions with other. People how many times HAVE i 811 00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: Watched Raging? Bull how many times HAVE i Watched The? 812 00:41:29,880 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 2: Godfather how many times HAVE i Watched? Psycho you know? 813 00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 2: Whatever and you just can't get. Over you watch the 814 00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,719 Speaker 2: acting at the highest, level and you're sitting there, going, 815 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 2: OH i hope one DAY i have even an opportunity 816 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 2: now That i'm going to do, it BUT i even 817 00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:47,319 Speaker 2: have a chance to do something even close to. That 818 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:49,319 Speaker 2: AND i said To bob and the talk, SHOW i, 819 00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:53,080 Speaker 2: said do you realize what you mean to other? People 820 00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,879 Speaker 2: what they've seen you and watched you in all these? 821 00:41:55,920 --> 00:42:00,760 Speaker 2: Films do the greatest, acting you, know among the top twenty, 822 00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 2: five thirty fifty men or? Whatever and then women are 823 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 2: in a different category as, well and he kind of 824 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: he was, like, oh thank, you thank, you thank, you 825 00:42:09,880 --> 00:42:14,560 Speaker 2: BUT i really meant, it you. Know it's like Al Al, Nicholson. 826 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,960 Speaker 2: DUSTIN i, MEAN i could go on and, On Kitel, 827 00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: Newman Baby redford of that. GENERATION i Know i'm leaving. 828 00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,880 Speaker 2: Outs robert wal just turned ninety. Two, Duval Gene, Hackman, 829 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,880 Speaker 2: duval will you always say the greatest performance in the 830 00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:36,640 Speaker 2: movie is when he played Bou, bradley because he breaks your. 831 00:42:36,640 --> 00:42:38,440 Speaker 2: Heart he doesn't have one, line he doesn't say one, 832 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: line not. One and there's the same guy who PULSES i, 833 00:42:43,680 --> 00:42:47,600 Speaker 2: Mean deval is kind of, amazing who pulses this sensitivity 834 00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:51,960 Speaker 2: and this suffering and plays that character so beautifully one 835 00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,279 Speaker 2: of his first film. Roles and that's the guy on 836 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:59,319 Speaker 2: the beach, going you, know Playing kilgore In. APOCALYPSE i 837 00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:03,759 Speaker 2: mean that rain of WHAT i call. Disposition is the 838 00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:07,920 Speaker 2: character powerful in the, World is the character strong in the. 839 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 2: World look At Orson wells And Citizen, kane how commanding 840 00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:16,239 Speaker 2: and how fascile he, is and how amazingly sharp he 841 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 2: is and. Seamless and then you see someone play a 842 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 2: part Like duval And i'm always looking for people who 843 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:29,680 Speaker 2: they play characters with that character is strong and confident and, 844 00:43:29,719 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 2: fearless and then someone who's struggling and in a lot of, 845 00:43:33,120 --> 00:43:35,439 Speaker 2: pain and can they do both those? 846 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,879 Speaker 1: Things, yeah and he seemed BECAUSE i was really thinking 847 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 1: about his performances the other day WHEN i saw he 848 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,120 Speaker 1: turned ninety. TWO i, mean that character In Apocalypse, now 849 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,960 Speaker 1: it could have been a. Joke you, know his character 850 00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:51,200 Speaker 1: in The Great Santini The, apostle which he acted and directed. 851 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:51,239 Speaker 2: And which is. 852 00:43:51,719 --> 00:43:55,239 Speaker 1: Insane, yeah you never saw him, acting and these are. 853 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:58,000 Speaker 1: Characters it's like he's an. Actor you just didn't see. 854 00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: Acting it's almost one of those people who, imagine like people, go, 855 00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:03,400 Speaker 1: oh you're not acting when you're, acting which is a 856 00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: compliment also in a disrespect because you don't understand the 857 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,759 Speaker 1: craftsmanship because it's. Seamless With Robert, DEVALL i just love 858 00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:14,280 Speaker 1: him so much and such an appreciated that he's, alive 859 00:44:14,400 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 1: you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't know if he's 860 00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:16,200 Speaker 1: making films. 861 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:20,480 Speaker 2: Anymore, Oh daniel Day lewis you, KNOW i, MEAN i, 862 00:44:20,480 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 2: mean he to me is somebody who it's, LIKE i, 863 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:24,840 Speaker 2: Mean i'm joking WHEN i say, this BUT i always 864 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:30,760 Speaker 2: felt Like spielberg And Tony kushner And daniel Day lewis 865 00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:35,239 Speaker 2: get together to Do, lincoln and whatever source, material there 866 00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:43,080 Speaker 2: was still, photographs written accounts of How lincoln, behaved audio. 867 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:46,160 Speaker 2: RECORDINGS i think that maybe there were. SOME i don't 868 00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 2: think there was any film footage of. Him AND i 869 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:54,399 Speaker 2: See daniel Day lewis as somebody who, Says, Okay i'm 870 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:58,840 Speaker 2: going to survey all of this, material but in the, 871 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 2: End i'm going to come up with, character and That's lincoln, 872 00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 2: right and for all eternity in people's, minds that will 873 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:10,600 Speaker 2: Be lincoln. Right i'm going to create The lincoln that's 874 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: going to be The lincoln right from, now as opposed 875 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,080 Speaker 2: To Raymond massey who did it early on years. Ago 876 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,680 Speaker 2: And i've nothing wrong with his, performance BUT i think 877 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:22,680 Speaker 2: that you see guys who just by the sheer force 878 00:45:22,719 --> 00:45:26,920 Speaker 2: of their. Talent you, know, podcast. 879 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 3: What actors do you remember throughout the, Year AND i 880 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:42,239 Speaker 3: MEAN i just named a. 881 00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 2: FEW i mean you've. 882 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,600 Speaker 1: Worked with there's you, know they do six degrees Of Kevin, 883 00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,320 Speaker 1: bacon but you're at a point where it could be 884 00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,359 Speaker 1: six degrees Of Alec. Boltman of people that you've worked, 885 00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:52,799 Speaker 1: with what actors do you remember throughout the. Years it 886 00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: could be, recent it could be when you were, younger 887 00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 1: where you're in a scene you're, like they're so good 888 00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,200 Speaker 1: just for a. MOMENT i meant during a take or 889 00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,200 Speaker 1: a rehearsal or a close up where you. 890 00:46:04,120 --> 00:46:05,759 Speaker 3: Go they kind of take you out of it and 891 00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:06,280 Speaker 3: you're watching. 892 00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,680 Speaker 2: IT i was going to do a movie and we 893 00:46:07,719 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 2: went and did a reading of the script at a 894 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:12,799 Speaker 2: hotel in la and De niro was going to do the, 895 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:14,439 Speaker 2: movie and he dropped out because he thought he wasn't 896 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 2: right for the, part because the guy was kind of very. 897 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:20,080 Speaker 2: WASPY i did this, Movie The edge With Tony, hopkins 898 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,600 Speaker 2: which was originally Called, bookworm and it was much more 899 00:46:23,680 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 2: baroque and much more. Psychological they turned it into like 900 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:28,360 Speaker 2: an action, film you, know an adventure film with the 901 00:46:28,360 --> 00:46:31,320 Speaker 2: bear and. Everything but when they called, ME i was 902 00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:34,480 Speaker 2: on vacation with my ex wife and they called me 903 00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: and they Said Tony hopkins is going to do the. 904 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,840 Speaker 2: MOVIE i crossed her to cry AND i, thought oh my. 905 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,120 Speaker 2: God AND i showed up there to go to work 906 00:46:42,520 --> 00:46:44,719 Speaker 2: and the, movie you, know had a lot of things 907 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 2: wrong with, it AND i was not wild about how 908 00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:50,480 Speaker 2: it turned. Out BUT i got to do this movie 909 00:46:50,480 --> 00:46:54,279 Speaker 2: With Tony, hopkins AND i was so that was the 910 00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 2: greatest Experience i've ever had shooting a movie because it 911 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 2: was a lead. Role you, know IF i Do, bob's 912 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:01,839 Speaker 2: IF i do The Good, shepherd IF i Do Good 913 00:47:01,880 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 2: shepherd With. Bob you, know that was just in and 914 00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,520 Speaker 2: out in a couple of. Weeks And marty and people like, 915 00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:09,600 Speaker 2: That nichols smaller, Roles but when you play a lead 916 00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 2: role with somebody who you really. Like Harold, becker who 917 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,880 Speaker 2: Did see Of love and he did other great. Films. 918 00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,239 Speaker 2: Taps we did this Movie, malice which was this very 919 00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,320 Speaker 2: tepid kind of thriller with, Me Bill pullman And Nicole. 920 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,600 Speaker 2: Kidman BUT i learned a lot From. Harold he was. 921 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,840 Speaker 2: Great he was really very actor. Friendly so BUT i 922 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:35,800 Speaker 2: must say that the time we spent up In canada 923 00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:37,880 Speaker 2: Shooting The edge With, tony that was probably the greatest 924 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:39,479 Speaker 2: Experience i've ever. Had that's. 925 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 3: Awesome when you Did Glengarry Glenn, ross you showed up one. 926 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 2: Day two days we. Shot, yeah we, rehearsed and then 927 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:49,919 Speaker 2: we came back AND i shot it over the course 928 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:51,239 Speaker 2: of two. Days it might have been two and a. 929 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,000 Speaker 2: HALF i don't. Remember it was two days to cover. 930 00:47:54,040 --> 00:47:56,719 Speaker 2: Everybody you, know the film's been, quoted it's sort of. 931 00:47:56,760 --> 00:48:01,799 Speaker 1: Been it's an iconic, film iconic, scene the, lines the. 932 00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:05,000 Speaker 1: Actors when you look back at that, time what do you. 933 00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 1: Remember what do you take away from that experience and 934 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:11,760 Speaker 1: the way you approached that. Scene would you approach it differently? 935 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 2: Now? Nine why maybe you tone it down and maybe 936 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:22,160 Speaker 2: you just a click meaning he said to Me, Foley he, 937 00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:24,520 Speaker 2: said this is like the. Scene and BECAUSE i was 938 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,239 Speaker 2: very uncomfortable doing the scene with these, guys, WELL i 939 00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,600 Speaker 2: admired all of, them AND i had to be so 940 00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,759 Speaker 2: abusive to. Them AND i called Up mammont on the 941 00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:38,279 Speaker 2: phone AND i, said you won The Pulitzer prize for the. 942 00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 2: Play why do you feel the need to amend the? 943 00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,000 Speaker 2: PLAY i, said you want it's the big. Prize he. 944 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,200 Speaker 2: Said none of these men have a criminal, nature and 945 00:48:47,239 --> 00:48:49,840 Speaker 2: they're about to commit a, crime AND i need someone 946 00:48:49,840 --> 00:48:52,080 Speaker 2: to come in there and ratchet everything a little tighter for, 947 00:48:52,120 --> 00:48:55,640 Speaker 2: them to make everything more taut and difficult for them 948 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,680 Speaker 2: so that they will. Commit so you come in and 949 00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,239 Speaker 2: your scene is going to be to incite them to 950 00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:03,640 Speaker 2: commit a. Crime and THEN i, said oh, God i've you. 951 00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 2: Know when it came time to shoot the, Scene foley, 952 00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 2: said it's like that scene In patent when he slaps 953 00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,680 Speaker 2: the guy in the tent who got shell shock and he, 954 00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:16,800 Speaker 2: says you call yourself a. Soldier And foley said to, 955 00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,000 Speaker 2: me we're going to do call this the you call 956 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:22,160 Speaker 2: yourself a salesman. Scene he's, like you're coming down. Here 957 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:25,120 Speaker 2: it's for their own. Good you're not doing this to be. 958 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,520 Speaker 2: Mean this is for their own. Good they need this 959 00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:30,600 Speaker 2: or they're going to be. Dead we're in battle, here 960 00:49:30,600 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: it's a. War you go out that, door you got to. 961 00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:34,919 Speaker 2: Sell and he goes AND i need you to crack 962 00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:36,759 Speaker 2: all of them right across the face as hard as 963 00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 2: you can and get him to snap the fuck out of. 964 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:42,720 Speaker 2: It AND i literally remember electricity going through my body 965 00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:45,600 Speaker 2: BECAUSE i needed someone to explain to. ME i call it, 966 00:49:45,719 --> 00:49:49,880 Speaker 2: authorization what authorizes me to do the scene that? Way 967 00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:53,120 Speaker 2: and when he told me, THAT i was, like, Okay i'm, 968 00:49:53,160 --> 00:49:56,520 Speaker 2: ready AND i got up and we go and it 969 00:49:56,560 --> 00:49:58,239 Speaker 2: was not, easy BECAUSE i, mean you have to say 970 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,200 Speaker 2: all these horrible things to. Them but the THING i 971 00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,520 Speaker 2: remember most has nothing to do with. That the THING 972 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,920 Speaker 2: i remember most was that was one of the Earlier 973 00:50:07,120 --> 00:50:11,440 Speaker 2: i'd done a, few but not, many of the great 974 00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:17,880 Speaker 2: monastic cinematographers in the. Business one of the greatest joys 975 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:20,279 Speaker 2: of making films is to work with great CINEMATA i 976 00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,560 Speaker 2: worked with Ball, house With, NICHOLS i worked With Bob. 977 00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,400 Speaker 2: RICHARDSON i worked With don McAlpine on The, edge AND 978 00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:34,200 Speaker 2: i worked With wan ruiz A chia who Photographed glengarry 979 00:50:34,760 --> 00:50:35,480 Speaker 2: and he's just. 980 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:40,080 Speaker 1: Unbelievable explain to non actors why it's great to work 981 00:50:40,120 --> 00:50:41,520 Speaker 1: with a great cinematographer as. 982 00:50:41,800 --> 00:50:43,920 Speaker 2: Well you Watch glengarry and it's like a, painting you, 983 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: know with all the black and white kind of it's a, 984 00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: film it's in, color and sometimes you feel like you're 985 00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,560 Speaker 2: being seduced into it being black and. White John tole 986 00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:56,440 Speaker 2: one OF i think there's only two. Men toll is. 987 00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 2: ONE i think there's one. MORE i can't remember who 988 00:50:59,400 --> 00:51:02,280 Speaker 2: won The oscar for cinematography and back to back. YEARS 989 00:51:02,920 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 2: i think he wanted For Brave, heart and then he 990 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,960 Speaker 2: went ran it For legends of The. FALL i believe 991 00:51:08,360 --> 00:51:10,719 Speaker 2: he wanted from one of those. MOVIES i know he 992 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: won For Brave, Braveheart No Brave, heart he, did and 993 00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,080 Speaker 2: then the year before that he Did legends of The. 994 00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 2: FALL i think Not river runs through. It it's Either 995 00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,719 Speaker 2: river runs through it Or legends of The. Fall so 996 00:51:20,760 --> 00:51:22,680 Speaker 2: he won The oscar two years in a. Row and 997 00:51:22,719 --> 00:51:25,080 Speaker 2: you're with this guy and you're, like and when you 998 00:51:25,239 --> 00:51:28,160 Speaker 2: when you? Shoot could they're making this is a. Movie, 999 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:31,839 Speaker 2: yeah we're making a. Movie, yeah someone's gonna put the 1000 00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:34,799 Speaker 2: camera on you and do. It and this guy who 1001 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,879 Speaker 2: Shot Glen, garry he just was like all the great 1002 00:51:37,960 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: dp's they never transmit any. Tension they like walk up 1003 00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 2: to you and they, go COULD i ask you a? 1004 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:49,640 Speaker 2: Question could you please just? Lean when he took you 1005 00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 2: lean this, way just the little. Bit AND i go 1006 00:51:52,920 --> 00:51:54,920 Speaker 2: there and we line up AND i, go you mean 1007 00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:59,759 Speaker 2: like this he's like he's so, Good and you're, Like 1008 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:04,279 Speaker 2: i'm here to put this on, film. Right so when 1009 00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 2: you have guys that are really and women who are 1010 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:12,560 Speaker 2: really really strong, cinematographers, god you feel so. Confident look 1011 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:13,560 Speaker 2: it's gonna look, good you. 1012 00:52:13,600 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: Know and so being on the set cursing At Jack, 1013 00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,799 Speaker 1: lemon who must have been a fucking a sweet. Guy 1014 00:52:19,000 --> 00:52:21,799 Speaker 1: yeah you're cursing it Ed, harris you're cursing At Alan 1015 00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,360 Speaker 1: arkin Hor are you having? 1016 00:52:24,360 --> 00:52:27,120 Speaker 2: Fun are they having? No? No, no, no no. No you, 1017 00:52:27,160 --> 00:52:30,440 Speaker 2: know you play these characters that are these tough. CHARACTERS i, 1018 00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,080 Speaker 2: said WHEN i Did streetcar On, BROADWAY i get into 1019 00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,600 Speaker 2: like the sixth week of. IT i want to, GO 1020 00:52:35,160 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 2: i want to stay To. Blanche why don't we sit, 1021 00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:38,640 Speaker 2: down have a Drink blanch and work everything? Out and, 1022 00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:42,799 Speaker 2: like you get tired of, being you, know at that. 1023 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:46,560 Speaker 2: Level and WHEN i do movies where you have to 1024 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,680 Speaker 2: kind of lose it or you're cruel in some, way 1025 00:52:51,120 --> 00:52:54,759 Speaker 2: it's never. Fun never. Fun you know what's fun is 1026 00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 2: when you do like when we did Thirty. Rock that 1027 00:52:56,880 --> 00:53:00,000 Speaker 2: was fun because those people were so creative And tina's 1028 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 2: so unique her talent as a, writer And Robert carlock 1029 00:53:03,719 --> 00:53:06,360 Speaker 2: and their whole stable of writers That i'd come to 1030 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,840 Speaker 2: work and they were like they'd hand us the script 1031 00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,120 Speaker 2: in the morning and we'd be in makeup and we're 1032 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,840 Speaker 2: going to do the read through for the network that. 1033 00:53:13,880 --> 00:53:16,879 Speaker 2: Afternoon they would pipe us To burbank from a room 1034 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,399 Speaker 2: we go into a conference room and so we'd take 1035 00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:23,960 Speaker 2: lunch on A wednesday and do the read through and 1036 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,440 Speaker 2: they'd hit me the script in the, morning And i'd, 1037 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:28,440 Speaker 2: Say i'd walk up To Robert carlock And i'd, say 1038 00:53:28,760 --> 00:53:31,080 Speaker 2: you want me to play This Patty duke thing with? 1039 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,480 Speaker 2: Myself and the other side of it Is i'm a 1040 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,400 Speaker 2: Gay mexican soap opera. Star And Robert carlock would always like, 1041 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 2: say it's a big. SWING i know it's a big, 1042 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 2: swing but we have faith in. You we believe in. 1043 00:53:43,600 --> 00:53:45,440 Speaker 2: You he was always, like you, know giving me the. 1044 00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 2: Business but that was fun because they were so fucking. 1045 00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:50,759 Speaker 1: Funny did the speed of it throw you off at? 1046 00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:52,879 Speaker 1: First the speed of? Television oh, no they knew. 1047 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,160 Speaker 2: Well the speed of. Shooting, yes it was a lot of. 1048 00:53:56,200 --> 00:53:59,759 Speaker 2: WORK i, Mean i'm not, complaining and we were. Compensated 1049 00:53:59,800 --> 00:54:02,680 Speaker 2: but it's, like, uh we had a, line OR i 1050 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 2: had a line with, them which was you give the 1051 00:54:04,719 --> 00:54:07,479 Speaker 2: sea and the stick to the finish. Line like in horse. 1052 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: Racing you you don't, pause Don't you got to just 1053 00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,279 Speaker 2: go let the, audience our audience will keep up with. 1054 00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,760 Speaker 2: Us AND i thought it was genuinely, funny as opposed 1055 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: to so many films AND tv SHOWS i see now 1056 00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:20,480 Speaker 2: that are more cute than. FUNNY i. 1057 00:54:20,520 --> 00:54:24,640 Speaker 1: Agree WHEN i was talking on the. Phone you gave 1058 00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: me a very big. COMPLIMENT i don't even know if 1059 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:28,399 Speaker 1: you remember, it but it stuck with. Me you said 1060 00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:33,600 Speaker 1: you called me The Lawrence olivier a Fuck AND i 1061 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:37,040 Speaker 1: consider you one of the great cursors in cinematic, history 1062 00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:39,439 Speaker 1: along with the Great Dennis, farina the late Great Dennis Rena, 1063 00:54:39,480 --> 00:54:45,200 Speaker 1: fina of, Course Bob DeNiro Of Frank Vincent's Joe, Pesci Alec, 1064 00:54:45,239 --> 00:54:48,839 Speaker 1: baldwin the great Al. Pacino SO i wanted to have 1065 00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:51,839 Speaker 1: a funk off with, you, okay AND i wrote some 1066 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: lines down And i'll say, them and THEN i wanted 1067 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:55,840 Speaker 1: you to say them as, well and we could go 1068 00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,640 Speaker 1: back and forth a, little almost like an, actor you, 1069 00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 1: know warm up a. Routine you're it's, yes some misner. 1070 00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:05,920 Speaker 1: Stuff fuck, You Michael, Rappaport. 1071 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 2: Fuck, You Michael, Rapperport fuck, You Michael. Rappaport fuck, You Michael. 1072 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:18,800 Speaker 3: Rapperport fuck, You Michael. Rappaport fuck, You Michael. 1073 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:25,560 Speaker 5: Rapperport you motherfucker you. 1074 00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:35,920 Speaker 6: You motherfucker, you you motherfucker you you motherfucker, you. 1075 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:45,120 Speaker 5: You motherfucker, you. 1076 00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:41,920 Speaker 2: You mother fucker. 1077 00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:53,080 Speaker 4: You you are a. Cocksucker you are a. Cocksucker you're a. 1078 00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:55,360 Speaker 4: Cocksucker you're a. 1079 00:55:55,400 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: Cocksucker you're a. Cocksucker you're a. Cocksucker did we get? It, 1080 00:56:04,080 --> 00:56:07,879 Speaker 1: Oh i'm in. Heaven i'm almost. Done NOW i want 1081 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,520 Speaker 1: to ask you a. QUESTION i want to interview you 1082 00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:13,640 Speaker 1: for a, second which is my. Nature so in your, career, 1083 00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:18,279 Speaker 1: now do you find that those types of work you 1084 00:56:18,360 --> 00:56:20,920 Speaker 1: don't want to, do LIKE i would imagine A tv 1085 00:56:21,080 --> 00:56:25,040 Speaker 1: series could be in your hand. Tomorrow you don't want 1086 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,600 Speaker 1: to commit to a series and be rinding that out 1087 00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:29,279 Speaker 1: for five or six. Years, NO i would love to 1088 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:32,960 Speaker 1: find a good. One it's crazy now because a television 1089 00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:36,720 Speaker 1: series that is good in that last and there's such, 1090 00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: incredible ridiculous great stuff ON. Tv you kind of want 1091 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:45,480 Speaker 1: to be a part of the great. Ones, YEAH i 1092 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,080 Speaker 1: mean there's so much good stuff on. Television what are 1093 00:56:48,120 --> 00:56:50,600 Speaker 1: you watching on? Television what do you get to watch besides? 1094 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:54,000 Speaker 1: Football probably a lot Of, SpongeBob teletubbies and all. 1095 00:56:54,000 --> 00:57:00,920 Speaker 2: This, Yeah Sonny bunny Is? Mowana? Frozen we Watched? Frozen, 1096 00:57:01,080 --> 00:57:04,040 Speaker 2: oh my, kids my wife when they all go, down 1097 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:05,719 Speaker 2: you know WHAT i? Mean so now there's two the 1098 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:09,240 Speaker 2: toddlers they were in that phrase and my Daughter luthia 1099 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,719 Speaker 2: she can't say oh, Love she, says o waff and 1100 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,960 Speaker 2: when she sees, me she's the most. Wonderful she kisses, 1101 00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 2: me she hugs. Me then she, goes oh a waff 1102 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 2: o wa for, waff like she wants to go Watch. 1103 00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:27,960 Speaker 2: Frozen SO i would say What i've. WATCHED i watched 1104 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:30,600 Speaker 2: the one with kind Of vali And naomi watch. 1105 00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:35,200 Speaker 1: Oh yes, Something, yes The, Watcher, yes that was. 1106 00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:38,480 Speaker 2: GOOD i watched. THAT i devoured The crown It' i'm 1107 00:57:38,520 --> 00:57:42,120 Speaker 2: obsessed with production, Value like there's things you're gonna. See 1108 00:57:42,600 --> 00:57:45,960 Speaker 2: there's sets and photography and, design and there's a reality 1109 00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:48,440 Speaker 2: there and going into the world of those people that 1110 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,680 Speaker 2: you're just never going to see anywhere. ELSE i, Agree 1111 00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 2: and THEN I i'm trying to think of what else 1112 00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:56,800 Speaker 2: did you? Watch White lotuses and? Two, no watch? 1113 00:57:56,840 --> 00:58:01,360 Speaker 1: It why it's fucking ridiculously good, writings ridiculously. 1114 00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:05,040 Speaker 2: Good, really you're gonna be, like oh. SHIT i always 1115 00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,880 Speaker 2: say to, Myself i'm not quite sure how interested AM i? 1116 00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:11,480 Speaker 2: AM i am in shows about like romantic and sexual. 1117 00:58:11,600 --> 00:58:16,760 Speaker 2: Intrigue it's not that it's Not, dynasty, no, okay it's 1118 00:58:17,320 --> 00:58:21,440 Speaker 2: you're gonna be, like oh, Shit and it's this second sisod. 1119 00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 2: Excellent it's amazing to hear you say. That. 1120 00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:27,600 Speaker 3: Excellent it's so. Good you're, like this is Fucking you're. 1121 00:58:27,440 --> 00:58:30,760 Speaker 2: Watched all of Those ark. GREAT i watched all Of O's, 1122 00:58:30,840 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 2: ark AND i just got a little freaked out because 1123 00:58:32,760 --> 00:58:35,160 Speaker 2: whenever they wrote themselves into a, corner they sort of shooting. 1124 00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 2: People so that was The West. WORLD i went all 1125 00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:39,720 Speaker 2: the way With West, world even THOUGH i was a 1126 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:43,200 Speaker 2: little bit disappointed in how. THAT i wanted something more 1127 00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:47,240 Speaker 2: relatable to. Happen BUT i will tell you and MAYBE 1128 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,160 Speaker 2: i have a feeling maybe you feel the same. Way 1129 00:58:49,480 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 2: one of my favorite. SHOWS i always say this to 1130 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 2: people all the, time And i'm amazed at people didn't 1131 00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:58,880 Speaker 2: catch this was the night of The tarantino to. Tour 1132 00:58:59,360 --> 00:59:04,000 Speaker 2: Johnson toro did play the lawyer med and The kid 1133 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 2: Gets busted and they only did the one season And 1134 00:59:07,360 --> 00:59:11,400 Speaker 2: Richard price And zaleen did the writing, excellent and THAT 1135 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:15,120 Speaker 2: i Think zaleen did the. Directing that show was so. 1136 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,240 Speaker 2: Good that was the one The gandelphini shot the pilot 1137 00:59:17,280 --> 00:59:19,200 Speaker 2: then he, died so they had to go back and 1138 00:59:19,240 --> 00:59:22,880 Speaker 2: be cast and reshoot. It but oh my, GOD i love. 1139 00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,800 Speaker 2: THAT i love that Show Michael michael Kay, Williams, yes 1140 00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:29,360 Speaker 2: WHO i worked with in this Movie The public With. 1141 00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: Amelio now that's the DIRECTOR i love Was. AMELIA i Worship. 1142 00:59:33,080 --> 00:59:36,200 Speaker 2: Amelia he's a good, director, Right he's a great, director 1143 00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,160 Speaker 2: and he's the loveliest guy in the face of the. 1144 00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,120 Speaker 2: Earth and we did this Movie The, public And Michael 1145 00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,840 Speaker 2: Kay williams was in, it and WHEN i saw him 1146 00:59:44,360 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 2: and his, ENERGY i completely. Blank and THEN i walked 1147 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:50,040 Speaker 2: up to him like day four AND i, go you're 1148 00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:55,160 Speaker 2: the guy from The Night of and he's like, Yeah 1149 00:59:55,640 --> 00:59:58,400 Speaker 2: AND i was, LIKE i love that. Show the people 1150 00:59:58,400 --> 00:59:59,480 Speaker 2: should watch that really GOOD. 1151 00:59:59,600 --> 01:00:03,800 Speaker 1: Hbo you know what else is Excellent and even though 1152 01:00:03,800 --> 01:00:05,480 Speaker 1: you're happily, Married. 1153 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:07,720 Speaker 2: I'm happily married. 1154 01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Too fleischmann's In trouble ON fx With Jesse eisenberg and Clar. 1155 01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,480 Speaker 3: Danes it's based on. 1156 01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: A book and it's really about these two people going 1157 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:25,360 Speaker 1: through their divorce and a great portrayal also Like Blue 1158 01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,840 Speaker 1: jasmine of a woman going through a mental. 1159 01:00:27,880 --> 01:00:29,320 Speaker 3: Breakdown fucking. 1160 01:00:29,800 --> 01:00:35,000 Speaker 2: Excellent, now why would my marriage be because? Soiled IF i, were, 1161 01:00:35,120 --> 01:00:36,040 Speaker 2: no your marriage wouldn't be. 1162 01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:39,400 Speaker 1: Soild but for, ME i had went through a divorce 1163 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:44,600 Speaker 1: with my, kids and it was that show really captures. 1164 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:46,080 Speaker 3: It, NO i mean in a real. 1165 01:00:46,120 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 2: Way the movie With Adam driver And Scarlet Marriage story 1166 01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 2: marriage to it THAT i went from the screening was 1167 01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 2: at The Hamptons Film festival WHEN i was out there 1168 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,800 Speaker 2: AND i walked out into the hallway And noah was, 1169 01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:06,360 Speaker 2: there AND i had tears in my, eyes AND i, 1170 01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:09,360 Speaker 2: said this is like you had a camera hidden on 1171 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:12,440 Speaker 2: me in my during my. Divorce you know you're remarried, now, 1172 01:01:12,520 --> 01:01:15,880 Speaker 2: yes so you were married, once, yeah twice twice? Before, 1173 01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:20,440 Speaker 2: no once, before once, before and Now i'm married the second. 1174 01:01:20,440 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 2: Time AND i said To, noah. BAMBACK i, SAID i 1175 01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,840 Speaker 2: can't believe this is so close to the bone to, 1176 01:01:26,880 --> 01:01:29,120 Speaker 2: me it. Was it was. Painful, YEAH i, agree great. 1177 01:01:29,160 --> 01:01:32,520 Speaker 1: MOVIE i, agree excellent, movie, excellent ridiculous. 1178 01:01:32,520 --> 01:01:35,280 Speaker 3: Movie fleischman's In, trouble which is it's. 1179 01:01:35,120 --> 01:01:37,800 Speaker 2: All New york Or i'll check it. Out, Fun i'll 1180 01:01:37,840 --> 01:01:40,440 Speaker 2: check that. Out And White LOTUS J because you said 1181 01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 2: so everybody else tells Me White. Lotus i'm, like, yeah, 1182 01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 2: YEAH i. DON'T i don't want to see a bunch 1183 01:01:44,560 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 2: of people banging each other in, order but you will love. 1184 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,000 Speaker 2: It you're not that you're gonna. GO i want to 1185 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 2: be on white load of season. 1186 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: THREE i guarantee you the writers are FUCKING i don't need. 1187 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,520 Speaker 1: That it's seven episodes and each one you're just, LIKE i, 1188 01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,240 Speaker 1: mean there's times WHERE i put me and my wife, Like, 1189 01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:00,200 Speaker 1: god damn this this it's. 1190 01:02:00,280 --> 01:02:01,560 Speaker 3: Ridiculous it's just that. 1191 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,360 Speaker 2: Good and the undertun says that it's. 1192 01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,760 Speaker 1: Great it's Not. Dynasty it's not not it's. Landing it's 1193 01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:12,840 Speaker 1: relationships and dysfunction and what's being said and what's really 1194 01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,320 Speaker 1: not being. 1195 01:02:13,400 --> 01:02:16,080 Speaker 2: Said imperiolis on the show, now. 1196 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,760 Speaker 1: F Murray, Abraham Aubrey, plaza some People i've never seen. 1197 01:02:21,120 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 1: Excellent it's really. 1198 01:02:23,000 --> 01:02:26,600 Speaker 2: Good, Michael, yeah he's. Great he's. It Alec. 1199 01:02:26,640 --> 01:02:30,120 Speaker 3: BALDWIN i could go on and on and on and. 1200 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:33,880 Speaker 1: On and ask. Questions my final, question what is Your trump. 1201 01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:37,840 Speaker 1: Predictions it's twenty twenty. Three what do you think's gonna? 1202 01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:40,200 Speaker 2: Happen, WELL i do believe that there's a, CHANCE i 1203 01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:44,800 Speaker 2: don't feel strongly about, this that this conservative cabal that 1204 01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:49,280 Speaker 2: withheld the vote for McCarthy to be the, speaker they're 1205 01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 2: going to continue to try to tip over the canoe 1206 01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:57,040 Speaker 2: for that, group The republicans are in the, majority And 1207 01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,720 Speaker 2: i'm not quite sure they're going to hold on to the. 1208 01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:01,520 Speaker 2: MAJORITY i think that they're going to be more and 1209 01:03:01,600 --> 01:03:04,920 Speaker 2: more the press is willing to call. It, like for, 1210 01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:08,920 Speaker 2: example every time there was a moment when things changed 1211 01:03:09,280 --> 01:03:12,720 Speaker 2: and you would hear on the, media the press would 1212 01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 2: Say trump that said the election was, sold which has been, 1213 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,360 Speaker 2: disproven they would label it a. Lie the news media 1214 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,720 Speaker 2: would come right out and say that's a. Lie AND 1215 01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,720 Speaker 2: i wonder if they've become more aggressive in terms of 1216 01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:28,520 Speaker 2: citing that with. Everybody SO i think that The republicans 1217 01:03:29,480 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 2: are very fractured and that may hurt them in twenty 1218 01:03:32,760 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 2: twenty four for holding onto The house and number, TWO 1219 01:03:37,240 --> 01:03:39,920 Speaker 2: i can't imagine that anybody's going to be the nominee 1220 01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 2: other Than. DeSantis he seems to be positioned himself very 1221 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 2: adroitly for. 1222 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:49,560 Speaker 3: THAT i, Agree BUT i go back and. FORTH i 1223 01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:50,080 Speaker 3: go back and. 1224 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,640 Speaker 2: Forth, Tulie trump is, Cooked he's, cooked and all the 1225 01:03:53,640 --> 01:03:55,880 Speaker 2: stuff that's come. Out, now you know when you Tell 1226 01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:59,320 Speaker 2: americans that it means LIKE, i for, example believe you 1227 01:03:59,320 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 2: should have a of what income taxes or a minimum. 1228 01:04:02,560 --> 01:04:06,560 Speaker 2: Tax so let's Say Michael rapaport makes ten million. Dollars 1229 01:04:06,680 --> 01:04:08,720 Speaker 2: that'd be. Great, well and let's say you're in a 1230 01:04:08,760 --> 01:04:11,960 Speaker 2: forty percent, bracket so you will four million dollars to the. 1231 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:15,000 Speaker 2: Irs and what we say is we don't want to disincentivize, 1232 01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 2: Philanthropy so we say you can deduct two, million but 1233 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,440 Speaker 2: you must pay no less than twenty percent of your, 1234 01:04:23,440 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 2: income no amount of rite, offs. Nothing your baseline or 1235 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:32,360 Speaker 2: like alternative minimum tax similar is you must pay twenty 1236 01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,120 Speaker 2: percent everybody in a certain. Category then we knock those 1237 01:04:35,240 --> 01:04:37,760 Speaker 2: numbers down for people who make less. Money but it's 1238 01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,840 Speaker 2: like this idea That trump paid no. Taxes you want to, 1239 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 2: go you, know you got to pay twenty percent of 1240 01:04:43,480 --> 01:04:45,840 Speaker 2: your income minimum to do. That AND i think that 1241 01:04:45,880 --> 01:04:50,480 Speaker 2: when people realize That trump said his taxes were withheld 1242 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:52,920 Speaker 2: and you see that he paid no taxes at, ALL 1243 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 2: i think some of his base is going to be 1244 01:04:55,120 --> 01:04:57,040 Speaker 2: they're going to find that. OFFENSIVE i hope they, do 1245 01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:00,640 Speaker 2: Because trump is, Cooked he's, Finished he's. Finished. YEAH i, 1246 01:05:00,640 --> 01:05:02,880 Speaker 2: mean there's a people want to win The White house 1247 01:05:03,080 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 2: and they know they're never gonna win With, trump and 1248 01:05:04,800 --> 01:05:07,520 Speaker 2: they know That, dessantas they've got a good, shot right all. 1249 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:12,000 Speaker 1: Right Alex BALDWIN i am rapped poor stereo. Podcast thank, 1250 01:05:12,120 --> 01:05:15,160 Speaker 1: YOU i appreciate so. Much awesome good to say it