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Speaker 1: they know we sent you. What is going on everybody,

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Speaker 1: John Middlecoff, Three and Out Podcast, Back at it again,

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Speaker 1: Rock and Row And maybe I'm I'm jealous of whenever

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Speaker 1: Draymond right after an NBA Finals game or a big

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Speaker 1: just not a bigger avenue given what he's doing to do.

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's just perfect. It's like kind of the

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Speaker 1: complete opposite. Right now, it's the off season, it's the summer. Now,

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Speaker 1: we do have mandatory minicamps. But I'm jealous. I wish

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Speaker 1: I could feel that juice of just I just played

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Speaker 1: an NBA Finals game, boom, go home and hit the mic. Instead,

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Speaker 1: I just shower, cold shower, because that's what Jocko tells

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Speaker 1: me to do. Quick cold shower, fire up the endorphins,

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Speaker 1: fire up the mind, and then uh, come find some

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Speaker 1: stuff talking about with football. Recording this on a Monday,

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Speaker 1: Monday afternoon, a little after lunch, twelve forty to be exact,

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Speaker 1: and uh, I'll be at Niners O T A S

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Speaker 1: Which again, the mandatory minicamps have it all over the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I would imagine most teams their mandatory minicamp this weekend,

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Speaker 1: next week, but for the most part, everyone goes on

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Speaker 1: That's your grinder, you know. I mean, I don't Belichick

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Speaker 1: Andy some of these guys, you know, sling into the

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Speaker 1: Good time of year. Uh, we'll talk about some football,

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Speaker 1: It was a joke like this is not I'm not

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Speaker 1: Alex mac gave a great quote he just retired. To

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Speaker 1: Albert Brewer, he said, it's a to prepare for the

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Speaker 1: NFL and prepare for football. It's a monumental task of monotony.

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Speaker 1: To be good. It's basically over and over doing the

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Speaker 1: same thing at a really high level to sustain being

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Speaker 1: a really good player, a really good team. Whatever. It's

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Speaker 1: it's very, very difficult, and in season in the NFL,

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Speaker 1: it's I've seen it firsthand. It is a mother the

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Speaker 1: grind of the weekly game plans, of the practice of

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Speaker 1: the training staffs, of preparing your body, the whole thing

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Speaker 1: of preparing for games. It is intense, but it's a

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Speaker 1: let's let's call a spade a spade now because Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers and Brady and some of these guys have complained

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Speaker 1: a lot of guys don't go to mandatory or voluntary minicamps,

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Speaker 1: and guess what, they're volunteery. It's what the players really

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Speaker 1: fought for. Voluntary, voluntary, voluntary. And now a lot of

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Speaker 1: star players do not attend anything all off season. Now

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Speaker 1: that doesn't mean they're not working out. They train on

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Speaker 1: their own, that's fine, but they have now a six

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Speaker 1: month a year job. I saw a headline today, Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers is gonna go to mandatory minicamp. So for beside

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Speaker 1: the season, which basically starts August one, and for Aaron

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Speaker 1: goes somewhere to the usually the middle of January, because

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Speaker 1: he's not getting that far. But let's say, you know,

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Speaker 1: middle to the end of January. He has one month

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Speaker 1: a year, or not one week a year beside those

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Speaker 1: six months that he has to show up to Green

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Speaker 1: Bay one week. Tom Brady, now he lives in Florida,

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Speaker 1: has one week a year that he has to go.

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Speaker 1: You go around the league star players. Trent Williams comes

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Speaker 1: to the forty Niners beside the season one week a year,

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Speaker 1: and it's not even one full week. Trent Williams at

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Speaker 1: the NBA game on Sunday, has stuff today. On Monday,

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Speaker 1: three practices has gone. By Thursday, it's five days. It's

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Speaker 1: actually five days. And listen, being in the NFL is

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Speaker 1: it's incredibly difficult. It's hard to make it there as

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Speaker 1: a player. It's hard to coach there in terms of

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Speaker 1: the time and the effort it takes. Whether you're good

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Speaker 1: or not, it's a different story, but just the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: I have nothing but respect for everyone that grinds in

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Speaker 1: that industry. It's it's really really hard. But for the

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Speaker 1: players now, especially the high class ones, the highly compensated ones,

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Speaker 1: the pro bowlers, if they choose not to, they do

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Speaker 1: not have to attend to anything but five days in

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Speaker 1: the off season. So let's face it, it's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good gig. The game has never been safer. The game

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Speaker 1: has never been the guys have never made more money

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Speaker 1: and they've never had more time off because historically in

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Speaker 1: O t A s even as of five to ten

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Speaker 1: to twenty years ago, they were voluntary, but they weren't voluntary.

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Speaker 1: You're asked better be there. That is no longer the

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Speaker 1: case that not only players are co just openly talking

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Speaker 1: like there's nothing we can do. It's voluntary, so what

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Speaker 1: they asked for in the c b A, which is fine.

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Speaker 1: I don't even blame Trent Williams or Aaron Rodgers for

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Speaker 1: not going. But I don't want to hear like it's

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Speaker 1: pretty good gig, like you got it pretty damn good,

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Speaker 1: because historically in the NFL, you played the season, you

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Speaker 1: had five weeks of double days, and you had a

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Speaker 1: really long off season. Trem Williams gets just Nick Bosa, Joey.

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Speaker 1: They just get to hang out and work out on

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Speaker 1: their own, which is fine. That's part of the perks

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Speaker 1: coming with being a great player. But that's a pretty

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Speaker 1: good park. You know, most people don't get to work

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Speaker 1: six months a year and make what you make. And listen,

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Speaker 1: I'm pro them making what they make. They earn it.

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Speaker 1: The league generates the money. It's a whole big cycle

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Speaker 1: of cash, which I'm not against. I don't want I

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Speaker 1: don't even want to come off like that. I'm not

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Speaker 1: like the media. I celebrate cash, I don't resent it,

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Speaker 1: but I do resent sometimes when we talk about the

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Speaker 1: difficulty of this whole thing. The season is difficult, the

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Speaker 1: off season is an incredible thing for most of these guys.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson the Ravens had talked about. I saw a

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Speaker 1: headline to day that they want to get back to

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Speaker 1: their roots. And when they say their roots, when he

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Speaker 1: was winning an m v P and they were the

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Speaker 1: number one overall seed in like two thousand nine, and

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Speaker 1: that means running the ball more and as of recording this,

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Speaker 1: I haven't seen when the Ravens banditicory minicamp is whether

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Speaker 1: Lamar will show or not. Technically, you get fine as

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Speaker 1: a veteran player nine dollars if you don't show up.

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Speaker 1: But like thet is for example with Jimmy Garoppolo, now

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Speaker 1: he's injured, but you can choose to give someone an excuse, absence,

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Speaker 1: like you don't have to find them for not showing up,

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Speaker 1: Like it's it's you control whether you want to get

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Speaker 1: mad about their attendance or not. So to me, if

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Speaker 1: I was in Lamar Jackson's camp, maybe I would say, Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's mandatory minicamp, we will show up, but under no

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Speaker 1: circumstances will we take another snap for you, especially when

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Speaker 1: you want to be in a run heavy offense. You

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Speaker 1: are admitting it, and you should. I mean, that is

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Speaker 1: your best chance to succeed with Lamar Jackson and your team,

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Speaker 1: play defense, run the ball with your quarterback and your

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Speaker 1: running backs. But you're gonna want to run the ship

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Speaker 1: out of My client now technically doesn't have an agent,

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Speaker 1: but you know what I mean. If I was in

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's camp, if I was his friend, Lamar, you

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Speaker 1: cannot take another full speed rep, whether that's in the

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Speaker 1: middle of June or whether that's in training camp, let

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Speaker 1: alone the season until you have pen to paper of

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Speaker 1: your full guarantee and signing bonus, because it is not

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Speaker 1: worth it because they can't function and they have no

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Speaker 1: chance of success in terms of doing what they want

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Speaker 1: to do, and that means being a top seed competing

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Speaker 1: to win the Super Bowl. Without you, you have leverage

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Speaker 1: in this situation because even Deebo Samuel, there's a chance

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Speaker 1: and I don't wouldn't agree with this, but Kyle Shannon's like,

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Speaker 1: you know, we drafted l s U guy, We've got

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Speaker 1: some other young wide receivers. Our defense is gonna be better.

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Speaker 1: We could manipulate some of that office. Now. Obviously they're

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Speaker 1: better with Deebo Samuel, but he might go. You know,

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Speaker 1: he's been out of shape before, he's been injury prone.

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Speaker 1: I don't feel comfortable giving him twenty three million dollars.

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Speaker 1: So if he wants to hold out, that's fine. I

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Speaker 1: think I could win games with other guys and ultimately

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Speaker 1: I think he'll crack. But you can't do that with

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson because he's your quarterback, your whole offense, Like

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Speaker 1: he makes the whole thing go. The reason the running

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Speaker 1: game works is because of the fakes with him. I

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Speaker 1: saw it when I was in Philly with Michael Vick

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Speaker 1: when you have a zone read, or when I was

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Speaker 1: at Prison State going against Colin Kaepernick in Nevada. When

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Speaker 1: that quarterback and the running back are both threats, it

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Speaker 1: freaks the whole thing out. And when you are as

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Speaker 1: great as Lamar Jackson with the ball in your hands,

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Speaker 1: and you could argue, I don't know. I mean, has

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Speaker 1: there ever been a quarterback more dynamic in the open

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Speaker 1: field than Lamar Jackson? R G three had the one year.

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Speaker 1: Lamar Michael had a couple of years. But I I think,

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Speaker 1: and I'm not trying to be prisoner at the moment,

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Speaker 1: that when he's going and when he's healthy, I think

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is the most dynamic quarterback in the open yield.

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen the combination of fast, elusive, the whole thing.

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Speaker 1: Cam's the most powerful. I think Lamar is the most dynamic.

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Speaker 1: It's like Barry Sanders uh and the Ravens can't operate

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Speaker 1: without him. So I listen. I questioned the draft pick.

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Speaker 1: At the time, I didn't see it. I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: And then when you factor in the guy, he's beloved

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Speaker 1: in the locker room, people like the guy. He's the

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Speaker 1: heartbeat of your team. I think he got to figure

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Speaker 1: this out. I I really do. Just just give him

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Speaker 1: forty forty five million dollars a year and move on

567
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Speaker 1: like it's just cowboys did it? And I take Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson every day of the week and twice on Sundays

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Speaker 1: over Dak Prescott, and I don't see how Lamar Jackson

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Speaker 1: would turn down that contract. Maybe not. It was forty

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Speaker 1: it was four for one sixty or whatever, so basically

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Speaker 1: forty a year why not forty two forty two for

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Speaker 1: four guarantee every penny. I would do something like that

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Speaker 1: just because that's just the constant doing business. You don't

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Speaker 1: really have a choice. And uh, we talked a lot

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Speaker 1: about announcers, and I think you got announced. You know,

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Speaker 1: Kevin Burkhardt and Greg Olsen are going to be the

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Speaker 1: number one team this year. And some people think that

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Speaker 1: if Tom Brady were to get bounced, maybe they would

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Speaker 1: bring him for the NFC Championship game, or because Fox

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Speaker 1: has a super Bowl, maybe the Super Bowl. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: who knows. I I still kind of feel that. And Brady,

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Speaker 1: I think, at the match, talked a little more openly

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Speaker 1: about retirement, not like Aaron, who's like I think about

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Speaker 1: retirement all the time, just like you know, I used

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Speaker 1: to be a hundred nothing play now retired Now it's

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Speaker 1: more like five. He's just being very organic. Rogers is

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Speaker 1: kind of being a drama queen about it, Like Aaron,

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Speaker 1: just fucking if you're gonna retire, just retire or just

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Speaker 1: take the money. Just just take the money, because that's

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Speaker 1: what you're doing taking the money, which I have no

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Speaker 1: problem with. Stop talking about retirement, either do it or

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Speaker 1: not Tom's seven years older than you, like, stop being

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Speaker 1: such a drama queen. That's The retirement talk with him

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Speaker 1: is really kind of getting on my nerves because I

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Speaker 1: think it's so pointless, and I think it just brings

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Speaker 1: like an energy siphon out of the Packers organization. Like ultimately,

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Speaker 1: like why why are you doing this? Like is this

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Speaker 1: the reason Davanta wanted out? He just couldn't take it anymore?

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Speaker 1: I don't. I mean Brady's years old a little different category.

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Speaker 1: Brady's also never got fifty million dollars a year. But

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Speaker 1: one thing I think looking at football in general, and

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Speaker 1: I think this speaks for all sports. Let's face it,

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Speaker 1: most announcing crews are not good. Most times you turn

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Speaker 1: on sports and it's just terrible. And a lot of

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Speaker 1: it has to do with it's hard. It's not easy.

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Speaker 1: I don't act like I could do it. I have

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Speaker 1: no desire to do it. It's very very difficult to

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Speaker 1: call games, whether it be a baseball game, a basketball game,

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Speaker 1: a football game. It's I wouldn't say it's it's very

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Speaker 1: difficult as a craft to do a play by play guy,

612
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: but it's much easier to find a play by play

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Speaker 1: guy than a good uh an ownt you know, an analyst, right,

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Speaker 1: there are few and far between to find Troy Aikman.

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Speaker 1: There's a big drop off with Fox's last crew, just

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Speaker 1: like if you watch that like Reggie Miller and Chris Webber,

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Speaker 1: I think was fired was horrendous, Like was so bad.

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Speaker 1: Obviously baseball can be very, very hit or missed. Though

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Speaker 1: it's such a regional sport, you tend to kind of

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00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,800
Speaker 1: like your guy, but it's not guaranteed. I'm lucky as

621
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Speaker 1: a Giants fan to have Mike Kruco and Dwyanne Keeper,

622
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 1: who actually are both former players, and Dwayne's the play

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Speaker 1: by play guy. It's a unique thing and I bet

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Speaker 1: anyone listening maybe you love your hometown guys, maybe you

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Speaker 1: don't if you're a baseball fan. Same thing with a

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Speaker 1: basketball fan. But in football, we I'm not seven years old.

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00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: I'm not listening to the radio. We consume the games

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Speaker 1: through television, and when we do, we are if our

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Speaker 1: team sucks, Like if you're a Giants fan in the

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00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,920
Speaker 1: last couple of years, you get the worst crew for Fox,

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Speaker 1: and usually it's a tough listen, and I think it

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Speaker 1: is difficult now probably more than ever to get announcers.

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Speaker 1: Because even a guy like you know, Ryan Fitzpatrick, who

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Speaker 1: just retired, I bet he's made hundred million dollars. I

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Speaker 1: was listening to Bill Simmons podcast and he was talking

636
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Speaker 1: like in basketball it, Dwyane Wade, who's dabbled in it,

637
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:57,080
Speaker 1: had made four hundred million dollars, four hundred million dollars.

638
00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: So like, what is TNT gonna pay him to call?

639
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Speaker 1: Aims to be make it worth this time because the

640
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 1: most valuable commodity we have in life is not money,

641
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: it's time. And the more money we get that means

642
00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 1: the more options we have to pick and choose what

643
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Speaker 1: we want to do with our time. That's the power

644
00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: of money, right. It gives us the opportunity to go,

645
00:32:14,040 --> 00:32:15,719
Speaker 1: I want to do this, I don't want to do this.

646
00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: I want to do that, I don't want to do that.

647
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Speaker 1: That's why I'm actually changing my idea of quote unquote

648
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Speaker 1: a money grab. I think that's a very very popular term,

649
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:28,720
Speaker 1: and I'm actually becoming much more pro money grab for

650
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: good people because I believe if you're a good person

651
00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 1: and you do a quote unquote money grab, it gives

652
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 1: you more opportunities to impact the world. You can start

653
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: a company, you can hire people, you can give more

654
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,640
Speaker 1: money to charity. You can influence your community. You can

655
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 1: donate to your local high schools. You can help small

656
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,920
Speaker 1: businesses around the community. If you are a good person.

657
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 1: If you're a bad person you just pocket all the money,

658
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: then yeah, but most people I know help with a

659
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Speaker 1: lot of money. Impact the community is greatly. Like It's

660
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: like the more money I give to the government. I

661
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: just drove when I was driving back from Tahoe. I

662
00:32:56,280 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: had to go to the Sacramento Airport to drop someone off,

663
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,520
Speaker 1: and we kind of and off this road and it

664
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 1: looked like a thor world country of homeless people. It

665
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 1: was the most eye opening thing I'd ever seen. I

666
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,880
Speaker 1: went down this long frontage road and it was a

667
00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: community of thousands of people living on the street, and

668
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: it was like, we pay, Like, does anyone in the

669
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 1: state give a shit about the poor people in The

670
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: answer is no. So the more money you have, the

671
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: more you can actually influence and help people out if

672
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: you put your mind to it. Now, we're all different,

673
00:33:26,160 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 1: but that's just a fact. That's that's not an opinion. Now,

674
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't mean everyone's willing to do it. People in

675
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: my life that have had some cash have always been

676
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: pay it forward type people help people out. So that's

677
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Speaker 1: the way that I think, and I do believe that

678
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Speaker 1: it is difficult, like I've always thought. I talked to

679
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Speaker 1: Carson Palmer a couple of years ago, and Carson Palmer,

680
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,720
Speaker 1: he was at this I Heart Fox put on this

681
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: golf tournament in l A. And I got to go

682
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: do it with with with Coward and Carson was there

683
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: and I had him on my podcast. A lot of

684
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 1: you guys are doing the podcast probably didn't hear that pod.

685
00:33:57,880 --> 00:33:59,640
Speaker 1: I have his number. I just probably hit him up

686
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,440
Speaker 1: this summer and see if he'll come back on the pod.

687
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 1: And I remember talking to him one just at the thing.

688
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,000
Speaker 1: First and foremost, he's enormous, Carson Palmer. You realize, Yeah,

689
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,640
Speaker 1: that's what the number one pick looks like. I swear

690
00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,919
Speaker 1: to god, he looked like six six to fifty. He's

691
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Speaker 1: a fucking tank, an absolute monster, but super nice guy,

692
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,080
Speaker 1: super impressive. And then when I had him on the podcast,

693
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Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys have seen him either on Colin

694
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: or Dan Patrick or whatever. He's really engaging. And I've

695
00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: thought ever since I talked to him like, this guy

696
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 1: would be perfect for television. This guy would crush it.

697
00:34:29,640 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 1: He's got the name recognition, he knows football, but he's

698
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,240
Speaker 1: kind of got for being a rich guy, this blue

699
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: collar kind of normality that you'd want to hang out

700
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Speaker 1: with him. That's kind of one thing Tony Romo has

701
00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: is he kind of seems relatable. I think Boomer Siason

702
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: really has this for being like a famous guy. It's like,

703
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,360
Speaker 1: I think I can have a beer with Boomer, you know,

704
00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 1: I I just could bullshit and talk some football and

705
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: talk life and talk whatever with Boomer. And I think

706
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Speaker 1: that's a huge quality to have as a TV guy.

707
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Speaker 1: And I think sometimes when guys don't have it, it's

708
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Speaker 1: a huge turn off to us the consumer. And I

709
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: think that's what you're always looking for. Now. The problem is,

710
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Speaker 1: I don't have Carson Palmer's career earnings, but there are

711
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Speaker 1: a lot, So could you convince him to do that?

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Speaker 1: Would he even be interested? If I was a television network,

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Speaker 1: I would be all over him. And obviously Richard Sherman,

714
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 1: who was dabbling I think potentially with Amazon, I think

715
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:19,840
Speaker 1: would be fantastic. He's a big personality, but he's also

716
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of funny, and he clearly knows football. He loves football. Uh.

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Speaker 1: I think Carson Palmer and Richard Sherman because listen, they're

718
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Speaker 1: always looking for look at some of the guys they

719
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: roll out and listen. Nothing against some of the guys

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Speaker 1: that are on television because they played in the NFL.

721
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Speaker 1: But just because you played the NFL doesn't mean you

722
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Speaker 1: should be on TV. And let's face it, we've all

723
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 1: watched some of these games like this is hard to

724
00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 1: listen to, and this is the NFL. This is, you know,

725
00:35:42,960 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: a hundred billion dollar business right now. Shouldn't they go

726
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,600
Speaker 1: after the best? Shouldn't these television networks work with the

727
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,319
Speaker 1: league and try to get the cream of the crop.

728
00:35:49,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: And I think, if you know, you know, those guys

729
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: are difficult to get because ultimately, to do the job,

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Speaker 1: you have to commit. And now that the like Carson Palmer,

731
00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:00,960
Speaker 1: rich Sherman, those guys have made million dollars a year,

732
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: so they know what it's like to make big money.

733
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Speaker 1: And now that they see some of these guys making

734
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Speaker 1: big money, it's not like they'll do the job for

735
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 1: two or three million dollars. So it's very expensive to

736
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 1: acquire those guys. But I've seen Ryan Fitzpatrick talks several times,

737
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: big personality, clearly knows football, clearly loves football. If you

738
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Speaker 1: play that long, why not go after a guy like that?

739
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,440
Speaker 1: Like to me, Carson Palmer, Richard Sherman, you swing for

740
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:24,200
Speaker 1: the defenses like those are no brainers, But why not

741
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Speaker 1: a guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Like I someone in my

742
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:28,239
Speaker 1: d M S the other day, it was like middle Cop,

743
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: I gotta push back on Philip Rivers. He's he's too

744
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: he's too much of a Bible thumper, and he doesn't swear.

745
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: They're not allowed to swear on CPS or Fox. You're

746
00:36:39,120 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 1: not Trademan's not dropping f bombs like me. So that

747
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,239
Speaker 1: who cares? Philip Rivers? Have you heard him talk? He's

748
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:50,160
Speaker 1: a huge personality. He can articulate football. He's passionate about football.

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00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,560
Speaker 1: Tony Romo doesn't swear. Who cares? It's more about like,

750
00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:57,919
Speaker 1: if you've seen Philip Rivers, you feel his energy. Even

751
00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: if you dislike the Chargers, Phil Rivers would be fantastic

752
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,399
Speaker 1: on television. It's why I immediately said when they hired

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00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: Drew Brees, this is not gonna work. It's not because

754
00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,759
Speaker 1: Drew Brees isn't quote unquote cutting edge or whatever. It's

755
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: just his personality, like maybe one thing with the team.

756
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 1: But I've seen him enough in press conference like yeah,

757
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: this ain't it, This ain't gonna work. Like it's why

758
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 1: we've talked forever about like McVeigh and Tomlin, why they

759
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: crushed on television. Just watch guys communicate. You could tell

760
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: Pat McAfee was a star when he was playing as

761
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: a talker. You either got it or you don't. And

762
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,400
Speaker 1: Drew Brees to me, falls under the category closer. Like

763
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: he's great with the team. Drew Brees should be like

764
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:39,919
Speaker 1: a team president. Drew Brees should be like a pat

765
00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 1: Riley that that's his Like Jason went and get in

766
00:37:43,080 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 1: the front office. You're not a media guy. Media. You

767
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 1: gotta entertain And when I even say media guy, like

768
00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:50,839
Speaker 1: if I put a microphone in your face, can you

769
00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,279
Speaker 1: entertain me? That's what the job is and there are

770
00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,600
Speaker 1: few and far between guys that can do it. And

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00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,840
Speaker 1: part of it when you're calling football games, the game

772
00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:02,799
Speaker 1: is ultimately there, but we're hearing your voice. Yeah, no

773
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: one I shorted harder than Drew Brees. It's like, no

774
00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:08,919
Speaker 1: chance this is gonna work, and immediately whatever, a year later,

775
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,960
Speaker 1: he's done, he's fired. He got fired because they're like, yeah,

776
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,840
Speaker 1: we missed. I mean, I could have told him that

777
00:38:13,880 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 1: a lot of these television exacts are fucking clueless. It's

778
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,120
Speaker 1: not like they know what they're doing, and they clearly

779
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: didn't there. But hey, you know, I think I'm a

780
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:23,400
Speaker 1: pretty good talent scout as well as a football scout.

781
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: I might be a better talent scout than I would

782
00:38:26,200 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 1: have evaluated football players because I like, I'm more passionate

783
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: about this now more so, I'd be all over Carson Palmer,

784
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:35,560
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman. But I think Ryan Fitzpatrick Man, I've watched

785
00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: enough of his press conferences, his personalities. I think he'd

786
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 1: be awesome. Okay, let's get into a little middle Coff

787
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: mail bag. Middle Coff mail bag at John Middlecoff is

788
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:53,440
Speaker 1: the Instagram and the direct messages, wide open, fire run

789
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:59,000
Speaker 1: in there, firing in there right now, Hey, Middlecoff, I'm

790
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 1: one of the nine car Ardinoald's fans in existence. You

791
00:39:01,719 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 1: guys got more than that. I've been listening to the

792
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 1: pod for a while and I'm a big fan However,

793
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: listening to my team gets shipped on isn't the best

794
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,960
Speaker 1: thing to hear, even though we have fan os as

795
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: her GM. What are some positive things you see for

796
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: the Cards upcoming season. Well, your roster is really good.

797
00:39:17,960 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: I mean, you have a lot of talent on your team.

798
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:24,040
Speaker 1: I didn't love the Hollywood Brown acquisition for the price

799
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: that they paid. Now, I just don't think a guy

800
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,239
Speaker 1: that's gonna need to be compensated soon. The first round pick.

801
00:39:30,280 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 1: I thought that was kind of crazy. But like, if

802
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: he's productive with your quarterback, to go with Hopkins, to

803
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,399
Speaker 1: go with ron Dale Moore. Like, you guys got some

804
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: players on the outside and Cliff doesn't really care about

805
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: running the ball, but you got little Kyler to run

806
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,239
Speaker 1: the ball in your defense. In theory, should be pretty good.

807
00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,440
Speaker 1: Your team on paper is good. I just don't love

808
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:52,359
Speaker 1: I was actually this someone I was texting with said

809
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,919
Speaker 1: that they were on a plane flight or they knew

810
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: someone that was on a plane flight from uh from

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00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: l A to Phoenix, and they're like, you know, oh,

812
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,799
Speaker 1: I bet Cliffs not on the plane flight it was

813
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,239
Speaker 1: it was yesterday on Sunday. I'm like, I bet it

814
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,040
Speaker 1: was him. Sean McVeigh got married on Saturday. I bet

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00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: he was in l A for the weekend. You're not

816
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: gonna pay thirty grand to fly private when you can

817
00:40:11,120 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: get a three fifty not even I mean two hundred

818
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: dollars Southwest fly. I don't care if you make nine

819
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: million dollars like Cliff does. Again, I like Cliff personally.

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00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,080
Speaker 1: I think he From everyone that I've talked to, they

821
00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: love the guy. I just fundamentally, philosophically don't view the offense.

822
00:40:24,800 --> 00:40:27,399
Speaker 1: We don't view offensive football the same way. And I'm

823
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 1: not claiming to be some smarter football guy. I just

824
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 1: philosophically don't believe in the way he runs his offense.

825
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,279
Speaker 1: But they have some talent, and you saw last year.

826
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Speaker 1: You don't go eight and no without talent. They won

827
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: eleven games. I just believe big picture, can Kyler stay healthy?

828
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Speaker 1: He wears down. He's tiny. It's understandable. He's a tiny

829
00:40:45,239 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: guy in a big league and in a very physical league.

830
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:50,920
Speaker 1: I mean, the Rams and Niners will fuck you up.

831
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 1: Excuse my language of the little kids, but that's just

832
00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,600
Speaker 1: the fact. That's how we talk in football world on defense.

833
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 1: So I do think it's uh, it's just gonna be

834
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:03,640
Speaker 1: a challenge for them to sustain them. Now Kyler's contract thing,

835
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 1: Are they gonna pay them? I doubt it? But if

836
00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,200
Speaker 1: I were you, I think what We're gonna make the

837
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: playoffs again? It is hard to forget. Listen, you lose

838
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. People lose in the playoffs. The Bills

839
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:19,120
Speaker 1: lost in the playoffs, Mahomes lost in the playoffs, Bretty

840
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,600
Speaker 1: lost in the playoffs, Kyle Shanahan lost. You can lose

841
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs, but can you lose like they lost?

842
00:41:26,000 --> 00:41:28,280
Speaker 1: I mean, that was one of the most gutless losses

843
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:31,920
Speaker 1: we've ever seen. And really it was the quarterback. It

844
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:34,920
Speaker 1: was like he did not care. This was not a

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Speaker 1: game in September. This was not a game in November.

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Speaker 1: This was literally, I mean, winn go home against the

847
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Speaker 1: division rival. Yeah, on Monday night football, first Monday Night

848
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 1: football playoff game. I think in my life and my

849
00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 1: crazier as the national media just fishing for a narrative

850
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:53,440
Speaker 1: with Jimmy g I listened to a lot of sports

851
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:55,760
Speaker 1: talking last week's After three minutes of a lead NFL

852
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,959
Speaker 1: insider and a well known national NFL host talk about

853
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 1: how stunt they are. They still on the team and

854
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Speaker 1: Joe Jimmy might end up starting because Tray might not

855
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Speaker 1: be ready. W T f AM I missing the dude

856
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,879
Speaker 1: hasn't thrown on football since January. And if they cut them,

857
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: they a salary. Isn't that shitty business? What moron would

858
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,920
Speaker 1: cut him today? Why doesn't anyone talk about that part? Yeah,

859
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 1: there's no point point to cut him today. Zero. At

860
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: this point in time, when you couldn't trade him in

861
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,399
Speaker 1: the off season, you might as well keep him. They're

862
00:42:22,400 --> 00:42:25,520
Speaker 1: having mandatory mini camp this weekend. Jimmy's excuse, Jimmy's not

863
00:42:25,560 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: even around. Tray is taking all the first team reps.

864
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:32,799
Speaker 1: I've been to several Niner practices. Tray, I don't know. Listen,

865
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Speaker 1: I'm not pretending to know more about football than Kyle,

866
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: but he splits the reps a little too evenly. You know.

867
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Speaker 1: It's like three for Tray, three for Sudfield, three for

868
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Speaker 1: brock Purty, which I get it, But like Ty, Trey

869
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Speaker 1: lances in your typical starting quarterback like I would give

870
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Speaker 1: for every if there are nine reps in an individual set,

871
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 1: I would give six to Tray and then have the

872
00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: other two guys split the third. That if Kyle asked

873
00:42:55,760 --> 00:42:58,240
Speaker 1: for my opinion, that would be my take. But Jimmy

874
00:42:58,360 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: Trey Lancers starting quarterback. Trey is going to be the

875
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Speaker 1: starting quarterback is Trey Lances team. I just don't quite

876
00:43:03,960 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do with Jimmy. I think ideally

877
00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,879
Speaker 1: they would love to trade them. They are not there.

878
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 1: There was some buzz on the sideline talking to some people,

879
00:43:11,280 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 1: not necessarily forty nine people, but people close to the

880
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:17,520
Speaker 1: team that covered the team, that they think he'll be

881
00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: He'll be released if they can't trade him. Jimmy g

882
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: is not going to be on the team. Even Kyle

883
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: said in the press conference that I went to a

884
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. Uh, just acting like a big

885
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Speaker 1: j He said that we plan on trading Jimmy Garoppolo.

886
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: I also means if they can't trade them, they will

887
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Speaker 1: release them. I'm a Colts fan, and after the draft,

888
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Speaker 1: I hear a lot of people talking about the R

889
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Speaker 1: A S scores and how athletic our draft was. As

890
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Speaker 1: a former scout, how much credit did you put into

891
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Speaker 1: R A S. Is there a connection to success? Honestly,

892
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Speaker 1: not exactly sure what R A S is. If you

893
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Speaker 1: mean the percentile. Uh, like what you are in terms

894
00:43:56,719 --> 00:44:01,520
Speaker 1: of forty times, height, weight, shuttle time, you know, athletic

895
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Speaker 1: the different you know, the vertical jumps, all that stuff. Yeah,

896
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Speaker 1: I mean certain teams value that stuff. And ideally you

897
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,719
Speaker 1: want to get the best players who are the best athletes, right,

898
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Speaker 1: You want to get the best players who can run

899
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Speaker 1: the fastest, jump the highest, and are the most you

900
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Speaker 1: know in terms of like change of direction, have the

901
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Speaker 1: most agility. But sometimes like guys don't perform as well

902
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 1: in those drills and they perform better on the field.

903
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,799
Speaker 1: One thing Belichick's always said is like, we don't pay

904
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:32,840
Speaker 1: guys too to dominate the combine. We pay guys to

905
00:44:32,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: play football, and ultimately, playing football and excelling at football

906
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: is the most important thing. It's why guys like Keenan, Allen,

907
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:44,440
Speaker 1: Richard Sherman, Davante Adams. I mean some of the great

908
00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 1: players fall in the draft because some of their athletic

909
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 1: testing numbers don't you know, equal what the marketplace would

910
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Speaker 1: be for a first round pick, But it matters. Yeah,

911
00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean you always want more athletic guys. Now, can

912
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Speaker 1: those guys play? Time will tell, I would say, and

913
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,399
Speaker 1: I think you would agree. One thing that I think

914
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Speaker 1: Colts need are just more explosive athletes on their team. Right,

915
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,800
Speaker 1: they felt like kind of a group of overachievers sometimes,

916
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: which they have some excellent players, but they just they

917
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Speaker 1: lack like, where's their Travis Kelsey and Tyreek Kill? You know,

918
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:22,239
Speaker 1: where's their George Kittle? Where where's there? You know? Ceedee lamb.

919
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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't even know if that's a great example,

920
00:45:23,960 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 1: but you know what I mean, right, you know, where's

921
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:30,120
Speaker 1: there whoever it may be, but like, where's their guy?

922
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Speaker 1: And I think they've kind of lacked that. Now. Their

923
00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:34,200
Speaker 1: first pick this year was in the third round, so

924
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they're gonna find that, but you

925
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Speaker 1: never know. Big Chiefs fan from Kansas, fan of your pot,

926
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Speaker 1: You're my favorite sports podcaster beside because of how Camden

927
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,360
Speaker 1: real you can be. Any chance you start doing more pots,

928
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Speaker 1: I e. Daily. Also, I'm a big soccer fan as well.

929
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Speaker 1: I've listened to your comments about David Tepper this week.

930
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,000
Speaker 1: He also owns a new MLS franchise, Charlotte FC, which

931
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 1: has been an incredible dumpster fire so fre he fired

932
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Speaker 1: the CEO and head coach manager only three months into

933
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Speaker 1: the season. I think he really has no idea how

934
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Speaker 1: to run sports organization, but wanted to point that out

935
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Speaker 1: to you. Keep up the great work. Uh yeah, I

936
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Speaker 1: mean technically, I do a podcast on Monday, I do

937
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Speaker 1: another one on Tuesday, I do a golf podcast on Wednesday,

938
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Speaker 1: I do a podcast on Friday, and then we put

939
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Speaker 1: a mail bag over the weekend. So I think if

940
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Speaker 1: you added up my content, I mean, we're doing five

941
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Speaker 1: days a week. I don't want to do it to

942
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Speaker 1: just do it like I do it because I'm fired

943
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Speaker 1: up and excited to talk about the stuff I'm talking about.

944
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Speaker 1: If I'm not excited about the stuff I'm talking about,

945
00:46:35,840 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: you won't enjoy what I'm talking about. Because what I

946
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:42,320
Speaker 1: can't do I can't fake it, you know, I can't

947
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Speaker 1: do unless I'm not trying to hate on these guys.

948
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Speaker 1: But I can't do skip Bayless and make things up.

949
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,360
Speaker 1: So I have to be excited to talk about what

950
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about, or I'm not able to podcast. Now. Luckily,

951
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Speaker 1: there's I talk a lot and I'm I find a

952
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Speaker 1: lot of things that I'm excited about. But I do

953
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Speaker 1: think there's a little bit edition by subtract if we

954
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Speaker 1: did it every day, which again, like I said, we

955
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Speaker 1: basically every we do and uh, now you could argue

956
00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: if you want my football content like golf is a

957
00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: big part of what I want to do moving forward.

958
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: It's an untapped area. I think that I I love

959
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,759
Speaker 1: the sport, I watched the sport and anything that if

960
00:47:17,760 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend a lot of time watching it, and

961
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,040
Speaker 1: I would anyway, I might as well monetize it. And

962
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: I think it's an area that I can really grow

963
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,759
Speaker 1: in football. Like I'm not worried about football. I I

964
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,000
Speaker 1: can do football podcast with my eyes closed. But golf

965
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:31,400
Speaker 1: is going to be an area that if if I'm

966
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Speaker 1: gonna expand anywhere, it would probably be golf stuff because

967
00:47:34,600 --> 00:47:37,320
Speaker 1: we do a lot of football stuff, especially during the season.

968
00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: But I appreciate you listen, thank you very much for

969
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:44,880
Speaker 1: supporting Ryan from n y C. How many years do

970
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: you think it will take my Panthers to go on

971
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:48,719
Speaker 1: notice around the league? Do you think we should trade

972
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey for more valuable assets on our staff? Will

973
00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:55,720
Speaker 1: DJ more ever have his name mentioned with the NFL

974
00:47:55,719 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: top receivers. All he does is put up big numbers

975
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:01,319
Speaker 1: when the games are still relevant. I think the hard

976
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:04,799
Speaker 1: part is his quarterback sucks, So they got to figure

977
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: out the quarterback. Like the number one thing we talked

978
00:48:07,040 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: about with the Panthers is like, you gotta win some games,

979
00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:11,040
Speaker 1: you need to figure out the quarterback. All the other

980
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 1: stuff doesn't really matter. So you have this rich owner

981
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: Temper who now I found out as bad MLS owner.

982
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,680
Speaker 1: They need to figure out the quarterback position and they

983
00:48:19,719 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: need to be competitive. You don't need to make the playoffs,

984
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,440
Speaker 1: but can you have like seven wins in the middle

985
00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:26,600
Speaker 1: of December and have a chance to make the wild card?

986
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: To me, that would be the question. Can they have

987
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,959
Speaker 1: a chance to make the wild card? And the only

988
00:48:31,000 --> 00:48:32,600
Speaker 1: way to have a chance to make the wild card

989
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:35,200
Speaker 1: in the NFL is to have good quarterback play and

990
00:48:35,239 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 1: a good coach. Obviously, the Saints quarterback play was a

991
00:48:37,760 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: little questionable last year, but they had John Payton. Like,

992
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: does Matt Rule is he an NFL coach? I think

993
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:45,520
Speaker 1: we could ask that he's an impressive guy. People I

994
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: knew that went through Baylor really liked him, But like

995
00:48:48,520 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 1: is he an NFL coach? He coached in the NFL

996
00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: for one years and sist an offensive line coach and

997
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: think about the guys he's going up against. Now, it's

998
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:58,719
Speaker 1: it's a little different animal. So I think it's a

999
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: favor to question that. I like DJ Moore a lot,

1000
00:49:02,600 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 1: but you know, it's hard when you just playing meaningless games.

1001
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:09,240
Speaker 1: Part of becoming a star in the NFL is playing

1002
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: in important games. As Davante Adams asked, you know, George

1003
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: Kittle asked. Richard Sherman asked, you know, just go around

1004
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:21,759
Speaker 1: the league, Just go around the top players that theyre

1005
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 1: tend to be on good teams, like Mike Evans, Godwin.

1006
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: Those guys became pretty big time once Tom Brady got there. Right,

1007
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:29,920
Speaker 1: Michael Thomas became a big deal when he got to

1008
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 1: the Saints and started catching a lot of balls from

1009
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:34,319
Speaker 1: Drew Brees. Right. Kyler Murray became a big deal when

1010
00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:38,040
Speaker 1: they started winning games the f C, like the Pittsburgh,

1011
00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 1: the Lamars, the Mahmes, Like, it's not very complicated. Tyreek kill,

1012
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Speaker 1: Tyr kills, Tyra kill, because they win double digging games

1013
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: a year's entire career. You gotta win, you know, obviously,

1014
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:52,720
Speaker 1: all the guys with the Rams when you don't win games,

1015
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,400
Speaker 1: like ultimately we got Yeah, a good player, but shitty team.

1016
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Speaker 1: Fair not like and you could argue it's not fair,

1017
00:49:58,440 --> 00:50:02,080
Speaker 1: but you gotta pro sports about winning, man. No one

1018
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:06,800
Speaker 1: cares about losers. They really don't. Big fan of the

1019
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: podcast in Uja Football, just wanted to tell you about

1020
00:50:09,400 --> 00:50:11,080
Speaker 1: a guy on our defense you may not have heard

1021
00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 1: much about, but he will be at worst a fifth

1022
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 1: pick in next year's draft. Jalen Carter was the best

1023
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Speaker 1: defensive lineman we had on our team last year, including

1024
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Speaker 1: the three first rounders and the number one overall pick.

1025
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Speaker 1: He blocked three field goals, including one in the National Championship.

1026
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Speaker 1: Absolute freak athlete, maybe even more so than Walker was.

1027
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Speaker 1: Watch out for eight eight next year if you find

1028
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,040
Speaker 1: yourself watching the Dogs, he's gonna be an insane player

1029
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,560
Speaker 1: on Sundays. Well, I'm sure you're correct. So that would

1030
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:41,279
Speaker 1: mean the two best defensive players in college would be

1031
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 1: this guy and Willie Anderson. And the talent in the

1032
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Speaker 1: SEC on the front lines is just remarkable. Is just

1033
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: eye opening to me. That's the biggest difference that they

1034
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Speaker 1: have definitely over the Big twelve, the Pack twelve and

1035
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Speaker 1: the A C C is their play on the defensive lines. Now,

1036
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Speaker 1: the Big ten has some defensive lineman. Obviously, they get

1037
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Speaker 1: guys drafted, you know, Aidan Hutchinson, and they've had some

1038
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: guys over the years, the Penn State guys, the Ohio

1039
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: State guys. Uh, Wisconsin has a guy here and there.

1040
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Speaker 1: But for the most part, the top pass rushers and

1041
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,879
Speaker 1: the top guys come out of the SEC. And then

1042
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Speaker 1: you get a Cabon Thibodeau, You'll get a Drake Jackson,

1043
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Speaker 1: You'll get a you know, a guy like that here

1044
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Speaker 1: and there. You know, I'm sure the Florida State had

1045
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Speaker 1: a guy, but think about Florida States guy that's on

1046
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Speaker 1: the New York Jets, uh Johnson the last name. He

1047
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: was at Georgia transfer. I mean, he's like, where did

1048
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: Florida State get this guy? Oh? Yeah, from Georgia that

1049
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: he transferred because they had eight million defensive lineman. So

1050
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Speaker 1: it just shows you that all the talents in the SEC.

1051
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Speaker 1: I'll definitely watch. I mean, I would imagine George is

1052
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Speaker 1: gonna be one of the best teams in the country.

1053
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Speaker 1: High school football coach and clothes. We have some mutual

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Speaker 1: friends and acquaintances. Was briefly a bulldock football player before

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Speaker 1: you got there. Love the pods, wondering what you are

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00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:04,160
Speaker 1: working on within Golf Bay these days, tailor made guy

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00:52:04,280 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: titles callaway. I have tailor made irons, I have Titless wedges,

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00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 1: and I have Calloway woods. But I might have just

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00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 1: bought some tailor made woods. Got them spect out over

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00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:18,680
Speaker 1: the weekend. Now it's a driver, a three wood, and

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00:52:18,719 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: a hybrid. Even with my discount at the club cost

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Speaker 1: me thirteen. It is insane how expensive golf equipment is now.

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Speaker 1: It's the new tailor made driver or whatever. But holy moly,

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00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:37,560
Speaker 1: thirteen fifty for three clubs I got. I got no issue,

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00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,440
Speaker 1: spent a little coin on golf, but man, my tailor

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Speaker 1: made irons are just my favorite irons have ever owned.

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Speaker 1: Bar none second. I mean it's not not even a

1068
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: close second, and I've owned them all. The seven nineties

1069
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:57,719
Speaker 1: are incredible. Long time Kansas City fan in Mahomes era

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Speaker 1: near every pundit has every year picked another seem to

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00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 1: win the a f C West, with the Chargers being

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00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: the favorite since the days of Rivers. How much disrespection

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00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: Mahomes and Casey feel about that. Also, I think Casey

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Speaker 1: had a great draft. We feel the need got value

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Speaker 1: in the process. One thing I noticed that no one

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00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:16,880
Speaker 1: has talked about is that all cases pick picks except

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Speaker 1: the dB from South Carolina College. We're from cold weather colleges.

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00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,760
Speaker 1: How savvy is this? As a casey is a place

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00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,680
Speaker 1: to get that gets cold, snowy, and those players already

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00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:29,799
Speaker 1: understand the conditions. I didn't notice that. That's a good

1081
00:53:29,840 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: little uh nugget by you. I don't think it hurts.

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00:53:33,080 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: You know, the disrespect card. Kent City wins all the time,

1083
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:39,319
Speaker 1: so it's like, I guess you could use it, but like,

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00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,279
Speaker 1: who really cares? Like you're one in the division six

1085
00:53:42,360 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: or eight years, so yeah, I keep picking against me whatever.

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00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,600
Speaker 1: I think you're an idiot, But I think maybe the

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00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:47,959
Speaker 1: first year is like I don't know if the Chiefs

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00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: can do it, and then you do it maybe the

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00:53:49,560 --> 00:53:52,760
Speaker 1: second year, but like by the six time, who cares?

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Speaker 1: Now if the other teams say that, but if the

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00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:58,399
Speaker 1: pundits like, and I get it, you gotta use that

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00:53:58,520 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 1: to your advantage, But who cares what the pundit say.

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Speaker 1: Been a fan since finding you on the Herd a

1094
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:08,000
Speaker 1: couple of years ago. Had a question regarding your thoughts

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00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,360
Speaker 1: on the Patriots leaning into the r a F rating

1096
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: system for the draft. My Patson BB been taking a

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00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: bit of heat for their season and draft. Just curious

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Speaker 1: your insights on the reported change. What's R a F rating?

1099
00:54:22,600 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 1: I'm not you guys are giving me some acronyms that hell,

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00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 1: I don't even know. I would say the only thing

1101
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:32,760
Speaker 1: that people question is that Bill like a mis draft.

1102
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: I think people view their draft two years ago is good. Right,

1103
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 1: they got the Alabama defensive tackle, they got Mac, they

1104
00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 1: got some other good players. I think Cole Strange was

1105
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:42,839
Speaker 1: viewed around the league is like a third round draft pick.

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00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:45,520
Speaker 1: So when you over pick a guy based on his

1107
00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,360
Speaker 1: market value, doesn't mean the guy is not gonna be

1108
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: a good player. But if the league views a house

1109
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: is worth eight grand and someone spends one point seven

1110
00:54:55,239 --> 00:54:57,759
Speaker 1: million dollars, it's okay to go, Yeah, that was a

1111
00:54:57,800 --> 00:55:00,200
Speaker 1: little weird. That would might have been an overpay. Now,

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00:55:00,200 --> 00:55:02,920
Speaker 1: if in five years that house is worth four million dollars,

1113
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: no one cares. But if in five years that house

1114
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: is only worth eight hundred thousand dollars, I think it's

1115
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:11,440
Speaker 1: fair to question. And that's how people look at the draft.

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Speaker 1: Did you need to take him right there? And Bill

1117
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 1: would argue, yeah, we thought people were gonna take him,

1118
00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:20,719
Speaker 1: and maybe he's right. Maybe maybe he's right. I don't know, though,

1119
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 1: you know, only time will tell with these things. My

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00:55:25,120 --> 00:55:27,880
Speaker 1: name is John, messaging you from a podcast account because

1121
00:55:27,880 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 1: I hate social media and I don't have a personal one.

1122
00:55:30,120 --> 00:55:33,800
Speaker 1: I've recently started my own podcast called Based on History Podcasts.

1123
00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:35,840
Speaker 1: I take a movie that claim to be based on

1124
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:38,799
Speaker 1: actual events and look at the true history of them

1125
00:55:38,840 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 1: and see what they got right and wrong. I'm doing

1126
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,440
Speaker 1: the podcast because I enjoyed doing it, but would like

1127
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:45,799
Speaker 1: to make some money in the future. Could you go

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00:55:45,840 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: into how you find sponsors and charge for ads and

1129
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: sponsors for an average guy. I've read some different things online,

1130
00:55:51,120 --> 00:55:54,160
Speaker 1: but I would appear to like your advice. PS. You're

1131
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,960
Speaker 1: good sports podcast, I don't. You're the man the people respect.

1132
00:55:58,000 --> 00:56:03,600
Speaker 1: Also a lifelong Cowboys fan. Okay, obviously with this I

1133
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 1: have my heart and Colin behind me, and they sell

1134
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:09,760
Speaker 1: it and we have an arrangement financially. The other podcast,

1135
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,160
Speaker 1: in which I started from scratch, I basically hustled, So

1136
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,640
Speaker 1: for the first couple of years I would DM with

1137
00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:20,919
Speaker 1: Instagram and Twitter, major companies, and I would ask them

1138
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,080
Speaker 1: for money and ask them to become part of it,

1139
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,239
Speaker 1: and probably I sent hundreds of those and eventually I

1140
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,239
Speaker 1: got a couple. And I also just worked the back

1141
00:56:30,320 --> 00:56:35,160
Speaker 1: channels and figured out ad agencies funnel you ads. So

1142
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:38,640
Speaker 1: I found contacts through other people and started reaching out

1143
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:41,800
Speaker 1: to ad agencies. So I do a lot of organic

1144
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 1: business to business, which we hustle ourselves through direct messaging

1145
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: or just organic reach, and then we work with some

1146
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,200
Speaker 1: ad agencies that funnel us business. It really is not

1147
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:56,439
Speaker 1: that much different here on this podcast. We use ad

1148
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 1: agencies on some bigger ones. I'm sure FanDuel Colin and

1149
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,000
Speaker 1: Money Team work directly with that, you know. But for

1150
00:57:03,040 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: the most part, like it's like anything, you have to

1151
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: sell it, so whether you're gonna pay someone to sell

1152
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:12,279
Speaker 1: it or do it yourself. But it takes time. And

1153
00:57:12,320 --> 00:57:17,320
Speaker 1: when once you have sponsors, then more come. But until

1154
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: you get that first sponsor, it's very very difficult. I'm

1155
00:57:20,280 --> 00:57:22,640
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. It is not easy to get someone

1156
00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:25,400
Speaker 1: to give you money on a podcast. But once you

1157
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:27,720
Speaker 1: get the first one, especially if it's a credible company,

1158
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:30,720
Speaker 1: more will come, I promise, and it will open the

1159
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:33,040
Speaker 1: gates for others. You just have to find a way

1160
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:34,680
Speaker 1: to get it, and the only one. The advice I

1161
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: give you is like start d M and people start

1162
00:57:37,640 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 1: emailing people, go to LinkedIn, find companies that you think

1163
00:57:41,320 --> 00:57:43,920
Speaker 1: might work. I don't know, try to figure out what companies.

1164
00:57:44,200 --> 00:57:48,080
Speaker 1: Go to the History Channel. Who who you know? Who

1165
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 1: advertises on the History Channel. I wish I watched the

1166
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: History Channel more. I really don't. But I find a

1167
00:57:52,680 --> 00:57:54,439
Speaker 1: people that advertise on the History Channel and then maybe

1168
00:57:54,480 --> 00:57:57,200
Speaker 1: hit them up. And if you can't find them on

1169
00:57:57,320 --> 00:57:59,800
Speaker 1: d M S or you know, Twitter or Instagram, if

1170
00:57:59,800 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: you get to them, go to their LinkedIn, find out

1171
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: their chief marketing officer or people that work in marketing

1172
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,280
Speaker 1: at those companies and d M, you know, connect with

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00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,840
Speaker 1: him and then shoot them. Uh, shoot him emails. I've

1174
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:13,439
Speaker 1: done that before. Now again, you're I would say, nine

1175
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: pcent of the time you're not gonna hear anything back

1176
00:58:16,360 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: and the other seven percent of the time you're probably

1177
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: gonna get yeah, we're not interested. But if you just

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00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:25,240
Speaker 1: a couple percent someone says yeah, tell us more, boom

1179
00:58:25,280 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: you're in. I mean, you just you basically just need

1180
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 1: to become a sales guy. That That's what I would recommend.

1181
00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 1: Or if you hate sales. Hire someone to do it,

1182
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:36,960
Speaker 1: because that would be the way to UH to get

1183
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:40,280
Speaker 1: people involved in your podcast. Because you, honestly, if you're

1184
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,120
Speaker 1: gonna do something that you're passionate about and you're good

1185
00:58:42,160 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: at it, and I'll assume you're good at it, you

1186
00:58:43,560 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: want to make money off it. That's the key to life.

1187
00:58:45,960 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: If you can find things you're good at, figure out

1188
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:50,760
Speaker 1: ways to monetize them, and eventually, if you're good enough,

1189
00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:53,520
Speaker 1: people will find out and you'll be able to monetize it.

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00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:57,600
Speaker 1: I promise you, regardless of what you do. That's that's

1191
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:59,720
Speaker 1: one thing Gary VS Always said, and he is right.

1192
00:59:00,200 --> 00:59:04,200
Speaker 1: Whatever you love to do, you you can find a

1193
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: way to make money about it. Cut because ultimately you're

1194
00:59:07,440 --> 00:59:10,800
Speaker 1: gonna like doing that more. I would imagine that you

1195
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 1: probably like doing your project on your podcast on your

1196
00:59:13,560 --> 00:59:17,200
Speaker 1: movie about the historical relevance to the movie more than

1197
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: your regular job, and you would the moment you can

1198
00:59:20,760 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: monetize what you enjoy doing, you spend so much more

1199
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 1: time doing it. And the more time you spend doing something,

1200
00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:28,640
Speaker 1: the more money end up making. I get up at

1201
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: six in the morning, walk right to my office, grab

1202
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,520
Speaker 1: a coffee, boom, start working If I work for somebody,

1203
00:59:33,600 --> 00:59:36,560
Speaker 1: I probably wouldn't do that. Sleep in, hit snooze, take

1204
00:59:36,600 --> 00:59:40,120
Speaker 1: my time. No, I enjoy doing this. It's not work

1205
00:59:40,200 --> 00:59:43,800
Speaker 1: to me. Even again, you naturally complain about things you

1206
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: have to do, but you know what I mean, and

1207
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:49,960
Speaker 1: I promise you you just gotta hustle. That's my best advice. Now,

1208
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: it's not gonna be easy, and you're gonna hear a

1209
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:56,080
Speaker 1: lot of nothing because people won't even respond. But if

1210
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,600
Speaker 1: you try hard enough, I promise you, because I used

1211
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: to be frustrated with this and eventually I had a

1212
01:00:01,640 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: breakthrough and then we never looked back. So that would

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01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:07,640
Speaker 1: be my advice. Good luck to you. Appreciate you everyone

1214
01:00:07,720 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 1: firing those d m s at John Middlecoff. Share the

1215
01:00:09,720 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: podcast with your friends, share with your enemies, talk to

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Speaker 1: Everyone's peace. The volume