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Speaker 1: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. Very interesting news,

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Speaker 1: year breaking. We're just discussing about Eric Adams, the mayor

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Speaker 1: of New York City and America's hardest city, of course

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Speaker 1: my former hometown and in many ways always my hometown,

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Speaker 1: that he is being induced, perhaps by the Trump administration,

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Speaker 1: to drop out of the mayor's race, that he absolutely

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Speaker 1: will not win, like he he definitely won't win. He's

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Speaker 1: he's not even close to the to some of the

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Speaker 1: other contenders, namely Mamdani and Cuomo. Guys, tell me if

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Speaker 1: if whether Sliwa or or Adams has more support in

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Speaker 1: the polls right now, I'd be interested to see that,

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Speaker 1: because if you're a Republican, a lot of them are

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Speaker 1: gonna are gonna go Sliwa, right So, I think Adams

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Speaker 1: might be in last place right now of the of

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Speaker 1: the candidates that anyone's heard of. There might even be

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Speaker 1: some other candidates in the mix. So I'm not watching

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Speaker 1: it as closely as I used to because I don't

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Speaker 1: live in New York. But we're paying attention here of

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Speaker 1: course on Clay and Talk to the broad strokes of

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Speaker 1: what's going on. And here's what I what I think

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Speaker 1: you'll see Clay. This is a reminder to everybody that

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams. We're talking before about whether something is opportunistic

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Speaker 1: or something is in earnest when someone says I was

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Speaker 1: wrong or I when they're willing to speak out against

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Speaker 1: a dominant narrative when it was very important for the nation.

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Speaker 1: Eric Adams, he's not a good mayor. Okay, I don't

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Speaker 1: think he's He's not a malignant mayor. Like he's not Deblasio,

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Speaker 1: who just tried to you know, he he was like

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Speaker 1: a malignant tumor on the city of Newark. Deblasio tried

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Speaker 1: to do everything he could to undermine New York City.

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Speaker 1: In my opinion, I was living there when he was mayor, right,

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Speaker 1: I think Eric Adams, you know, I was not really

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Speaker 1: up for the job in a lot of ways. But

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Speaker 1: I think that he was trying. You know, he's trying

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Speaker 1: to back the police more, trying to do things better.

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Speaker 1: But on the issue of illegals in New York City,

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Speaker 1: this really elevated it because he was the first major

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Speaker 1: voice of any city in America who was a Democrat

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Speaker 1: to come out and say, hey, this is a problem

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Speaker 1: and this needs to stop. Like we can't just allow

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Speaker 1: these people who need a tremendous amount of resources, who

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Speaker 1: do take resources from the you know, from the rest

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Speaker 1: of the American public. Thirty percent of emergency room visit,

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Speaker 1: it's twenty percent of all hotel rooms. I mean you

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Speaker 1: start to look at these numbers, right, it's and this

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Speaker 1: factored Clay into I think the broader narrative about how

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Speaker 1: bad Biden's ten million plus illegal you know, jail break

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Speaker 1: into America was. And I think that you saw one

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Speaker 1: The Democrats went after Adams to make an example of

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Speaker 1: him with this corruption case about the airline ticket upgrades

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Speaker 1: or whatever with Turkeys airlines. Fair The funniest job they

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Speaker 1: could give him would be ambassador to Turkey. Trump does

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Speaker 1: have a decent sense of humor. If he made Adams

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Speaker 1: the ambassador to Turkey, it would be absolutely hysterical. We

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Speaker 1: probably have an ambassador to Turkey already, so whoever that is,

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Speaker 1: I apologize, but I do think the comedy value of

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Speaker 1: him in Turkish airlines, you know, would take care of him.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, like the corruption they went after him for

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Speaker 1: was absurd. Yeah, and you look at actual Democrat corruption

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Speaker 1: out there that they're willing to turn a total blind eye.

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Speaker 1: You look at Hunter Biden selling half million dollar paintings, Okay,

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Speaker 1: like we know that they'll do anything for power and

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Speaker 1: sort of pretend that flight upgrades. My point here, Clay,

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Speaker 1: is that Eric Adams was now maybe he saw down

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Speaker 1: the line that there was an opportunity here that's playing

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Speaker 1: four D chess a bit, that there could be this

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Speaker 1: situation playing out. I think it's more likely that he

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Speaker 1: just realized, this is a mess. They're making a mess

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Speaker 1: of my city with this illegal influx problem that's been

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Speaker 1: going on with Biden, and he played an important so

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Speaker 1: if they could find the right spot for him in

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Speaker 1: the administration, I think that he performed an important national

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Speaker 1: public service, even if he wasn't a very good mayor

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Speaker 1: by speaking the truth about illegals.

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Speaker 2: I also think they would have to find a job

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Speaker 2: for Curtis sliwa And I understand that everybody says I'm

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Speaker 2: not leaving the race, I'm all in for it, And

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Speaker 2: I understand why Sliwah would say I'm the better option

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Speaker 2: than Cuomo. Look at how bad Cuomo was during COVID.

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Speaker 2: This guy doesn't deserve the job. But if there's anything

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Speaker 2: other than one actual opposition to Mamdani. Mamdanni wins. So

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Speaker 2: you have to rely upon people to do what maybe

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Speaker 2: not at the peak of their own best interest, in

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Speaker 2: order to advance the City of New York's best interest,

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Speaker 1: Lot of politicians aren't willing to do that. Just to

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Speaker 1: be clear, I mean, I'm basically right on this. I

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Speaker 1: knew I was directionally right. Adams is the weakest. Sliwa

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Speaker 1: the Republican and there's a decent number of Republicans in

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Speaker 1: the five boroughs, he has more support than Adams. The clay.

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Speaker 1: That's another way of saying the existing mayor of New

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Speaker 1: York is doing the worst in this mayor election. So

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Speaker 1: whatever job the Trump administration's thinking of offering Eric Adams,

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Speaker 1: it's probably a pretty good deal for Eric Adams. May

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Speaker 1: not even need a Trump job.

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Speaker 2: To be fair to Eric Adams, I would think there

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Speaker 2: are a lot of people in New York City who

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Speaker 2: could hire Eric Adams to come work inside of their company,

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Speaker 2: pay him way more than a government job pays. To

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Speaker 2: effectively be a lobbyist in New York City. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the guy has Whatever you think about him. The guy

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Speaker 2: has tons of connections to help get things done in

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Speaker 2: New York City. And for some of these billionaires that

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Speaker 2: are out there that really desperately care about the future

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Speaker 2: of New York City, having at Eric Adams one of

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Speaker 2: a thousand people on their payroll is not a bad

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Speaker 2: decision either. By the way, same thing could be said

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Speaker 2: about Curtis Sliwa. If you look at the gambling markets

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Speaker 2: right now, Zoorn Mom Donnie eighty percent chance of being

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Speaker 2: elected mayor of New York City, Andrew Cuomo eighteen percent,

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Speaker 2: Eric Adams less than one percent, Curtis Sliwa less than

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Speaker 2: one percent. So what the markets are telling us here

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Speaker 2: is it's Cuomo or it's Mom Donnie, and basically nobody

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Speaker 1: I know, Mom Donnie is a mom, Donnie is a Kami,

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Speaker 1: and the stuff he's saying Clomo's awful, though I don't.

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Speaker 1: Cuomo is the guy behind. I know. I focus on

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Speaker 1: the COVID part of this, and you know him doing

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Speaker 1: the Oh, let's do a press conference.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk about Cuomo chips. If you're gonna sit at

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Speaker 3: a bar, you need the order of food like he

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Speaker 3: went through. All I was watching these day in and

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Speaker 3: day out. Yeah, and Clay he's the jail break Emmy

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Speaker 3: that they gave him a special Emmy for his press conferences.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, of course that was. It was must CTV in

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Speaker 1: I would just say, yeah, that was bad. But also

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Speaker 1: he was the the jail break guy, the jail break

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Speaker 1: bill up in Albany, the no cash bail, A lot

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Speaker 1: of the criminal justice problems that New York then had

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Speaker 1: mean he is yeah, he's not a communist, Okay, So

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Speaker 1: would he be better for the business environment? Sure? You know,

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Speaker 1: are there I recognize, But man, is he not an

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Speaker 1: exciting alternative even based you know, he's better than Mamdani

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Speaker 1: but barely, is what I'm saying. Like, it's not great

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Speaker 1: if he becomes the mayor. It's not like New Yorker

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Speaker 1: should celebrate it that much.

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Speaker 2: And this is where I come back to the argument

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Speaker 2: I've made related to New York City's mayor. Let him

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Speaker 2: make a bad choice, all right, Nashville. Man, that's enough.

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Speaker 2: That's enough out of you. That's enough. I want Mom

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Speaker 2: Donnie to be one of the faces of the Democrat

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Speaker 2: Party in twenty twenty six. And if that means that

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Speaker 2: we have to pick an awful leader for New York City,

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Speaker 2: why should all the same people of New York have

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Speaker 2: to band together to protect Democrats from the choice that

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Speaker 1: And now I know how you Alabama football fans feel,

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Speaker 1: Clay just when he's just poking you to poke you, you

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Speaker 1: know what I mean, He's just sort of poking the

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Speaker 1: bear here. We don't want New York to have a

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Speaker 1: communist mayor who ruins the place. It's gonna be very,

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Speaker 1: very bad for a lot of people, and it could spread.

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Speaker 1: You think the big miss uh it was the Bush phrase? Misunderestimated?

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Speaker 1: Imost did there the big underestimation? Underestimation? Thank you misunderestimated.

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Speaker 1: It's fun to say, yeah, great, big yeah. Is it work?

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Speaker 2: I know it is not a word, but it's not

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Speaker 2: a word mission. This is a is the point to underestimate.

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Speaker 2: The combination of the two is kind of makes sense

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Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I agree, you know Bush Bush was a

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Speaker 1: you know, it was a wordsmith by accident. So I

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Speaker 1: would say the the problem We've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: these cities. Look at Chicago, perfect example. You could have

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Speaker 1: argued Lori Lightfoot, you need to have Lori Lightfoot's administration,

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Speaker 1: even crazier with the next mayor. Yeah, they did so.

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Speaker 2: And I just think New York City might need to

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Speaker 1: W R listeners, do you hear this? He wants He

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Speaker 1: thinks that you need to like uh, like Bruce Wayne's

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Speaker 1: parents in Gotham, watch your back when you're going to

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Speaker 1: a Broadway show, you know, And this is not the

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Speaker 1: way we want it. I appreciate everybody who is smart

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Speaker 1: enough not to vote for Mom Donnie. They're already listening

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Speaker 2: They're nodding along right now, saying sometimes experience is the

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Speaker 2: best teacher, and sometimes Democrats need to experience the consequences

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Speaker 2: of their own choices in order to recognize that it's

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Speaker 2: a poor decision. You can only tell people for so long.

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Speaker 2: And I was reading, I mean, this is actually super sad.

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Speaker 2: I was reading over the weekend getting ready for the

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Speaker 2: are landlords. You know, they want to talk about freezing rent.

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Speaker 2: You know what doesn't get frozen most of the time,

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Speaker 2: property taxes. So the number of landlords, I mean, some

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Speaker 2: of you who own buildings, they think they try to

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Speaker 2: turn it into Oh, everybody's so rich at their landlords.

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Speaker 2: They had to give The New York Times credit a

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Speaker 2: really good profile on a woman in the Bronx who

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Speaker 2: they won't allow her to raise the rent. But yet

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Speaker 2: her property taxes keep going up, and so she actually

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Speaker 2: is losing money based on what she's allowed to charge

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Speaker 2: her residence and the property basically makes no sense. And

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Speaker 2: so this is the reality of when you stop people

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Speaker 2: sometimes you are creating situations where the loss basically goes

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Speaker 1: This is why Ron DeSantis, and this is very important

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Speaker 1: for the state of Florida and Governor DeSantis, I think

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Speaker 1: is completely correct on this and this should be getting

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Speaker 1: more attention. This is why Ron DeSantis is trying to

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Speaker 1: get through the state state legislator in tallahassee a change

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Speaker 1: in the way. I mean, look, it's trying to end

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Speaker 1: property tax. There's some more specifics to it, but the

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Speaker 1: probably have in Florida right now. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: Welcome back into Clay and fuck all right, So some

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Speaker 5: That we just over the last few minutes literally shout

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Speaker 1: Okay, clay, So they put the video out there. It's

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Speaker 1: But this is war tactic, this is not criminal justice tactic.

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Speaker 1: they have and this is one of the biggest oil

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Speaker 1: producing states in the world. And Maduro is an illegitimate

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Speaker 1: leader and he's taken over huge assets of American companies.

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Speaker 1: I think we want Maduro out, and I think we

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Speaker 1: are slowly screwing tightening the screws on Maduro. So Maduro,

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Speaker 1: and I always tell people this because I think it

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Speaker 1: really Maduro himself is considered not just the head of

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Speaker 1: the Venezuelan states. He's an authoritarian, he's a dictator, but

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Speaker 1: he's the head of a cartel. He's a he himself,

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Speaker 1: the actual premier, the actual leader of Venezuela is officially

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Speaker 1: by the United States Treasury Department a designated narco trafficker

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Speaker 1: and running it. And now what you see is that

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Speaker 1: this is and this is why people talk about Venezuela

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Speaker 1: as a failed state and so sad because it got

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Speaker 1: to this state. Don't ever forget this. It got to

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Speaker 1: this position because of socialism, because of redistribution of wealth,

447
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Speaker 1: because of envy, because of all these things that unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: this virus that continues to make its way, yes through

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Speaker 1: Latin America, but also into this country at different times

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Speaker 1: where if only you know, the rich get rinsed more,

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Speaker 1: everything will be better for everybody else but Clay. This

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Speaker 1: is how the Venezuelan elites, even with all the problems

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Speaker 1: they have, and I mean the true elites, the people

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Speaker 1: running the country, are funding their lifestyles and also staying

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Speaker 1: in power because they are generating huge amounts of cash

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Speaker 1: through selling drugs to America. They're killing people. This is

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Speaker 1: it's very Tom Clancy circa nineteen you know, nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is a moment where you're seeing the

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Speaker 1: United States government is taking the threat of the cartels

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Speaker 1: as more of a nation state level nons or sorry,

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Speaker 1: a nation state level terror sponsor threat. And that is

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Speaker 1: a whole other thing. And we haven't even talked about

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Speaker 1: what this could mean for the cartels in Mexico. We're

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Speaker 1: focused right now on Venezuela. I totally and I'm curious

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Speaker 1: to hear what people think.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 2: Again, as long as you are one hundred percent certain,

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Speaker 2: and I trust Secretary of State Marco Rubio and I

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Speaker 2: trust Pete hag Seth. What you don't want to have

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Speaker 2: happen here is some families out on a jet boat

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Speaker 2: and the US just reiins down holy hell on them.

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Speaker 2: And this is where I think the media deserves fair criticism.

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Speaker 2: You've talked about this before. Buck Obama just took out

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Speaker 2: an American citizen. Uh and almost nobody even talks about

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Speaker 2: a sixteen year old with a drone.

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Speaker 1: And then they said, oh, it's classified, nobody can talk

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Speaker 1: about it. He blew up a sixteen year old. It

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Speaker 1: was Alaki's son. Yeah, but you know, in DC, sixteen

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Speaker 1: year old murderers can't go to prison for more than

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Speaker 1: five years. But in this context under Obama, he just

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Speaker 1: blew them up.

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Speaker 2: This is where I think a lot of you guys

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Speaker 2: and gals are gonna learn. Everybody out there that's like, oh,

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Speaker 2: I'm afraid of the FBI knocking on my door. I

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Speaker 2: think over the next generation, it's not going to be

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Speaker 2: somebody driving by your house and spraying guns in your

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Speaker 2: front window. People are going to start to use drones

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Speaker 2: for targeted criminal hits. And if you look, I mean look,

489
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Speaker 2: military technology eventually filters its way down to the general public,

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Speaker 2: often in some context. Look at the way Israel took

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Speaker 2: out all these Iranian scientists. I mean, it's really very

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Speaker 2: remarkable technologically. You'll see the whole building in Tehran still standing,

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Speaker 2: and they went in the side of a wall and

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Speaker 2: executed as scientist and the rest of the building was fine.

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Speaker 2: You don't think, and most people don't. Hey, one day

496
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Speaker 2: somebody's just gonna set a drone off and try to

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Speaker 2: kill me. I'm telling you, in the next generation, this

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Speaker 2: is gonna be something that we really have to have

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Speaker 2: real conversations about. You know the cartels are innovators in this. Yes,

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Speaker 2: Just to be clear, they've been doing this for a while.

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Speaker 2: The cartels have been using very basic commercial drones to

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Speaker 2: drop grenades, to drop it, and they've been doing it

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Speaker 2: for a decade, So this is going back quite some time.

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Speaker 2: And yeah, I think eventually, Clay, You're right, you will

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Speaker 2: see drive by at some point will turn into drone by.

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Speaker 1: That will happen. I look out look.

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Speaker 2: I'm just saying, the technology here is such that you're

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Speaker 2: not even gonna have people committing violent acts against you

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Speaker 2: physically present. They're gonna be using technology to use it

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Speaker 2: against you. And that's my thoughts. When I watch this video,

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Speaker 2: I guarantee you every drug dealer in America and around

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Speaker 2: the world trying to get drugs to America is going

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Speaker 2: to watch that video. What'll be interesting is will it

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Speaker 2: change behavior in any way or is the incentive structure

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Speaker 2: the money they make so significant that they're going to

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Speaker 2: continue to take these risks. And I want to tell you,

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Speaker 2: I just came back, was it last week? Week before last,

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Speaker 1: Speed find it on the iHeartRadio app or wherever you

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Speaker 1: get your podcast.

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Speaker 2: We are having a fantastic Wednesday, no matter even though

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Speaker 2: we have as many of you probably are dealing with

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Speaker 2: Imagine a lot of you are getting your kids back

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Speaker 2: to school. There's a lot of different moving parts. We

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Speaker 2: played for you, some of the President with the President

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Speaker 2: of Poland in the Oval Office in the first hour,

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Speaker 2: and Buck, I'll take you behind the curtain here. I

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Speaker 2: don't know if I've told this story before, but I'll

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Speaker 2: tell you this story as we start off the second

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Speaker 2: hour here because it directly ties in with a clip

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Speaker 2: we're going to play for you. And if you missed

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Speaker 2: the teas Malcolm Gladwell probably I think the most famous

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Speaker 2: non fiction celebrity author in America. Would you buy into

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Speaker 2: that designation in terms of book sells? I don't know

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Speaker 2: that anybody would have sold more copies than him.

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Speaker 1: It's him and Michael Lewis probably for our to go

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Speaker 1: to the last twenty years or so, those would be

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Speaker 1: the two that I think are. I met him in France,

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Speaker 1: by the way, for the iHeart event, So I actually

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Speaker 1: met mister Gladwell for the first we shook hands. I mean,

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Speaker 1: he wouldn't you know, He had no idea who I

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Speaker 1: was like, hey man, yeah, so yeah.

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Speaker 2: So I'm going to play a cut for him. I

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Speaker 2: imagine a lot of you have read his books. Tipping

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Speaker 2: Point is probably the most famous, but he's got a

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Speaker 2: ton of different books, and I think he has a

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Speaker 2: very popular podcast. So I would bet a huge percentage

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Speaker 2: of you are familiar with who Malcolm Gladwell is. So

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Speaker 2: let me take you behind the scenes a little bit here.

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Speaker 2: I sold my company out Kick, to Fox in twenty

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Speaker 2: twenty one. On Super Bowl Sunday twenty twenty one, we

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Speaker 2: made two million dollars in affiliate revenue for from fan

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Speaker 2: duel that is that Super Bowl Day. The company that

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Speaker 2: I ran, we and founded. We were one of the

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Speaker 2: top affiliates in the entire country. So if you were

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Speaker 2: watching Tom Brady Tampa Bay Buccaneers go up against Patrick

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Speaker 2: Mahomes Kansas City chiefs our company, and to a large

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Speaker 2: extent me made more money than anybody playing in that game.

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Speaker 2: On sports gambling affiliate referral deals, we were for FanDuel,

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Speaker 2: which is the biggest sports affiliate company sports gambling company

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Speaker 2: in the country. We were either their best or second

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Speaker 2: best affiliate partner in the country. Pat McAfee, who now

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Speaker 2: is at ESPN, was also wildly profitable for them. We

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Speaker 2: were their too best at helping to promote and I

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Speaker 2: love sports gambling obviously. We've got a great relationship with

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Speaker 2: Price Picks, which ties in here with that. We made

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Speaker 2: six seven million dollars a year on that deal. That

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Speaker 2: was important for us as a part of the company

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Speaker 2: sold the company. FanDuel said they wouldn't work with me anymore,

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Speaker 2: Buck because I was too outspoken on the trans sports issue.

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Speaker 2: This is a sports gambling company. They said, Clay is

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Speaker 2: too controversial because he is saying men should not be

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Speaker 2: competing in women's sports, and FanDuel is worried about the

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Speaker 2: controversy that he brings for being so outspoken on that issue.

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Speaker 2: As a result, FanDuel refused to work with me, and

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Speaker 2: as a result, refused to work without kick so me

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Speaker 2: merely saying men should not be able to compete in

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Speaker 2: women's athletics cost the company that I founded and owned

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Speaker 2: around seven million dollars a year. I don't know how

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Speaker 2: much money you guys make, but seven million dollars a

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Speaker 2: year for a media company is a big, huge part

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Speaker 2: of what allows the company to be profitable to employ

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Speaker 2: tons of people. But as a matter of principle, I said,

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Speaker 2: I'm not gonna stop talking about this, even though FanDuel

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Speaker 2: is saying, well, you're too controversial for saying this.

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Speaker 1: So the reason why I give you that backstory is.

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Speaker 2: It was even though it's one hundred percent the right

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Speaker 2: thing to say, it took hutzba It took sometimes turning

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Speaker 2: away from millions of dollars to say what I personally

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Speaker 2: believe to be true and allow the company to be

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Speaker 2: at the forefront of arguing this.

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Speaker 1: Is no, no, no, no, no no, not what you not

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Speaker 1: what you personally believe to be true, what is undeniably, unequivocally,

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Speaker 1: obviously and as clear as anything could be true, which

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Speaker 1: I think is important. You weren't penalized Clay for an

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Speaker 1: opinion you were peena for a fact, which is a

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Speaker 1: whole that is Soviet Union level stuff. That is, everyone

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Speaker 1: who is starving, say the grain harvest is the biggest

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Speaker 1: grain harvest of all time. That is a manufactured delusion,

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Speaker 1: my friend.

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Speaker 2: And if you wonder why did people not step up

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Speaker 2: against this across all of sports, only OutKick and really

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Speaker 2: only met at the forefront of this. We're willing to

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Speaker 2: make this argument. It's because the big advertising partners out

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Speaker 2: there would grab you by the you know what and

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Speaker 2: they would squeeze if you tried to step out along.

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Speaker 2: This is the truth. Nobody else will even tell you this.

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you directly. Okay, Malcolm Gladwell came out. They

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Speaker 2: have a big sports conference, sports analytics conference at MIT,

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Speaker 2: and they had a bunch of famous Malcolm Gladwell has

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Speaker 2: a connection into sports. He's a big sports fan. He's

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Speaker 2: done sports related reporting and stories, and he and everybody

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Speaker 2: else on that panel at the I think it's the

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Speaker 2: Sloan Kettering MIT Institute or whatever, refused to speak out

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Speaker 2: against men competing in women's sports because the consequences were real.

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Speaker 2: What I just told you, it could cost your company

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars. It could cost you personally millions of dollars.

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Speaker 2: It could impact your employability. They were very targeted in

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Speaker 2: the way that they attacked here. And now he's come out.

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Speaker 2: This just happened yesterday, and Malcolm Gladwell says, hey, I

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Speaker 2: was bullied, I was cowed. I was afraid of the consequences.

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Speaker 2: And now I'm going to tell you the truth. Men

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Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: Listen if we.

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Speaker 7: Did a replay of that exact panel at the SLUM

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Speaker 7: conference this coming March, it runs in exactly the opposite direction,

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Speaker 7: and it would be I suspect near unanimity in the

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Speaker 7: room that trans athletes have no place in the female category.

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Speaker 7: I don't think this is any question. I just think

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Speaker 7: it was a strange I mean, I felt.

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Speaker 1: I mean the.

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Speaker 7: Reason I'm ashamed of my performance of that panel because

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Speaker 7: I share your position one hundred percent and I was

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Speaker 7: count is the idea of saying anything on this issue.

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Speaker 7: I was in a I believe in retrospect in a

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Speaker 7: dishonest way.

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Speaker 1: I was.

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Speaker 7: I was objective in a dishonest way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I give him credit for coming out and being

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Speaker 2: honest about this. I think this is so incredibly important

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Speaker 2: because there are consequences. Unfortunately, when you are willing to

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Speaker 2: speak the truth, I think your qualification is important there.

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Speaker 2: This is not This is not me arguing what the

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Speaker 2: tax rate in Moldova should be, and we're sitting around

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Speaker 2: and we're like, well, you know, this is his Dudes

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Speaker 2: are not chicks, and chicks are not dudes, and pretending

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Speaker 2: they are is a lot.

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Speaker 1: That is what this is. Even in the world of sports.

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Speaker 2: It's beyond that black book because you're saying men don't

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Speaker 2: have a competitive advantage, or you're sitting around you're saying, well,

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Speaker 2: we have to do studies.

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Speaker 1: No, men are bigger, stronger and faster than women. But

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Speaker 1: underlying all of it, underlying all of it, and this

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Speaker 1: has to be remembered, is that trans For example, and

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Speaker 1: this is usually what we're talking about in the sports context,

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Speaker 1: trans women are women indistinguishable and to be treated by

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Speaker 1: society and the law as women, indistinguishable from women in

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Speaker 1: all respects, even though they're not women. That is the

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Speaker 1: actual foundational mandatory belief of the trans movement, right, is

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Speaker 1: that they transplate what is the phrase trans women are women? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is what they say trans women are women and

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Speaker 1: that's why they should be able to play in women's sports.

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Speaker 1: That is a lie.

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Speaker 2: I think this is important though, and I see this everywhere,

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Speaker 2: and people who may not be involved in media, a

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Speaker 2: lot of you sit around you say, well, how did

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Speaker 2: this happen? It was if you were willing to speak

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Speaker 2: out on this issue. Advert Teiser said, I can't. I

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Speaker 2: won't work with this person anymore. And I'm talking about

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Speaker 2: a friggin sports gambling company. You think that it's a

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Speaker 2: coincidence that they're, of all companies, that should be one

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Speaker 2: that recognized, hey, men and women's sports is ridiculous. They

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Speaker 2: actually pushed back and they said, even though you, Clay

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Speaker 2: and your company have made us tens of millions of dollars,

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Speaker 2: which we had objective reality you could look at and say, hey,

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Speaker 2: people love this, they wouldn't spend money with us anymore.

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Speaker 2: And this is how they control what people say, because

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Speaker 2: most people are not willing to give up the money.

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Speaker 2: They just pretend this story didn't exist. It wasn't that

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Speaker 2: everybody was as outspoken and as Gladwell is saying there,

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Speaker 2: it was just that a lot of companies just pretended

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Speaker 2: this didn't happen, or they would say, as they still say, now,

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Speaker 2: I don't know why you care about that? What you

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Speaker 2: even care? It doesn't happen that often. It's not that

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Speaker 2: big of a well, this is always that. This is

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Speaker 2: always the progression. Right, it's not happening. It's not happening

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Speaker 2: that much.

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Speaker 1: Why do you care? Okay, it's happening. It's happening a

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Speaker 1: little bit. Uh to, It's good. It's happening. Shut your face.

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Speaker 1: We're in charge now. And this is this is this

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Speaker 1: was COVID, this is trans this is this is that

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Speaker 1: is the the slippery slope of leftism in America today.

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Speaker 1: It has to progressivism, it has to progress The argument

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Speaker 1: always has to go to the next level. And it's

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Speaker 1: all based on lies, because of course it is happening,

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Speaker 1: because they know what's happening, and they know it's wrong,

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Speaker 1: and they know they want to do more of it,

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Speaker 1: but they use an incrementalist strategy to chip away at

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Speaker 1: things and for Gladwell to come out now, Clay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: because everything has changed. Now now you can say it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: now you can actually because.

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Speaker 2: People like me spoke out so hard and took the

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Speaker 2: slings and arrows I will say, Buck, I give him

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Speaker 2: some credit for acknowledging he was wrong, because what a

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Speaker 2: lot of people are gonna do is they're gonna await

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Speaker 2: another couple of years, and they're gonna come They're gonna say, well,

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Speaker 2: everybody knew this was ridiculous all along, and and then

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Speaker 2: that they never actually argu otherwise.

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Speaker 8: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I mean that's particularly gross, right, But that will happen.

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Speaker 1: I think that that is true. Five years from now.

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Speaker 1: There will not be a single man in America who

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Speaker 1: will say I ever thought it was okay? Oh no, no,

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Speaker 1: men pretending to be women were competing. I disagree with that.

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Speaker 1: There will be people, Clay, There are people that will

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Speaker 1: take this to the very end, and they think that

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Speaker 1: they can get a rebound with this in time. All

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Speaker 1: they have to do that. They think that they will

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Speaker 1: find their way back into power, back into the culture.

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Speaker 1: Twenty percent of the country is never going to abandon this.

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Speaker 1: Twenty percent of the country is certifiably insane. I mean

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Speaker 1: they think that Kamala Harris was a good candidate and

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden's brain was working. These people are nuts.

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Speaker 2: Well I say this, I mean people who are actual

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Speaker 2: sports fans, right, because I understand on some level if

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Speaker 2: you stay, if you don't know anything about sports and

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Speaker 2: you think, like, hey, maybe Serena Williams is better than

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Speaker 2: Roger Federer at tennis, maybe they should play and maybe

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00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 2: the woman would win. I actually give them a pass

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Speaker 2: because they're so clueless on the difference of biology. But

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Speaker 2: any man I mean this honestly, any man who has

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Speaker 2: ever played a high school, college, and certainly a pro

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Speaker 2: sport knows that the idea of men being able to

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Speaker 2: compete in women's sports was, on its face, laughably absurd.

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Speaker 2: And where it matters is if they can get you

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Speaker 2: to argue that, or if they can get you to

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Speaker 2: stay silent on that, they can keep advancing the UH,

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Speaker 2: the the the left wing agenda because they cowed you

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Speaker 2: into silence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you well, and you're you've you've basically become complicit

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Speaker 1: in your own cowardice UH and your own silencing. And

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Speaker 1: if they can get you to say something that's that crazy,

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Speaker 1: they can get you to say anything. That's the whole point.

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Speaker 1: If they can get you to believe this, they can

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Speaker 1: get you to believe that you know that the sky

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Speaker 1: is purple, and you know the the earth is u

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Speaker 1: is flat and you name it. And that's that's a

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Speaker 1: very powerful tool of psychological manipulation, because it's degrading. When

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Speaker 1: the state or when society forces you to mouth a lie,

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Speaker 1: to say the slogans that they demand that you know

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Speaker 1: are false, it degrades you psychologically. Yeah. The point they

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Speaker 1: do this in alttalitarian regimes, by the way, and they

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Speaker 1: do it purposefully. Yeah, and let me say this too.

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Speaker 2: I think the one thing I will say additionally in

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Speaker 2: favor of Gladwell is this, I think America would be

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Speaker 2: far better if we all acknowledge when we.

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Speaker 1: Get things wrong.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that anybody out there listening expects for

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Speaker 2: you or me to get everything right. I think when

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Speaker 2: we claim that we never get anything wrong, it actually

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Speaker 2: delegitimizes the things that we get right. And I do

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Speaker 2: think Malcolm Gladwell coming out and saying yes, it's convenient now. Yes,

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Speaker 2: the consequences and the stakes and the punishment for being

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Speaker 2: on the quote unquote wrong side of the ledger on

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Speaker 2: this issue are much demnimized because we want this battle

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Speaker 2: so far. But I do think being willing to acknowledge

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Speaker 2: we've said it like I said, it was gonna be

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Speaker 2: a red tsunami in twenty twenty two. Didn't get it.

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Speaker 2: I had to wear it like I was wrong. Now,

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Speaker 2: we got a lot right about the twenty twenty four election.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think people out there trusted us less

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Speaker 2: because you got something wrong, because everybody gets things wrong.

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Speaker 1: And that's a prediction too. Yeah, there's a difference between

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Speaker 1: a prediction, which is inherently uncertain, and telling a lie. Yes,

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Speaker 1: one goes to analysis and nobody's perfect. Another goes to

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Speaker 1: you're selling out and a lot of people I will

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Speaker 1: tell you almost I know one sold out. I won't

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Speaker 1: name them because I don't. I don't. People can always,

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Speaker 1: even people on the other side, if they asked to

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Speaker 1: speak to me in confidence, keep it. I keep confidence.

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Speaker 1: I know some prominent Democrats in the media, Clay who

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Speaker 1: would say to me offline, oh, the trance thing is crazy,

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Speaker 1: but the agenda's crazy. But I can't say it because

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Speaker 1: my side would eat me alive. Yep, yep. We'll talk.

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Speaker 2: We'll take some of your calls. Maybe some of you

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Speaker 2: want to react to that. Also, we want to talk

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Speaker 2: about the arrest that happened in England, which I actually

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Speaker 2: think is connected to wrong think, which Malcolm Gladwell was

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Speaker 1: Well, let's I want to dive into this one. I

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Speaker 1: feel like you're I feel like you're gonna have pretty

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Speaker 1: sure you're gonna have some things to say on this.

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Speaker 1: Uh not not hard to find topics they to talk

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Speaker 1: I think I think that's fair. But Coldplay had a

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Speaker 1: cold Play, brought some people up on the stage. Now

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Speaker 1: we have this sound, we have this audio. Let's let

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Speaker 1: everyone here. So this is the lead singer of cold

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Speaker 1: Play in front of I don't know, sixty thousand people,

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Speaker 1: are in this arena. And here's how it goes. When

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Speaker 1: he invites some just people listeners on the stage of

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Speaker 1: them play it. Oh, I thought I thought we had

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Speaker 1: this one in the mix. I'm sorry, producer Mark, tell

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Speaker 1: me which one we have this uploaded as when you

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Speaker 1: get a second, uh and and there we go. Let's

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Speaker 1: play it from Israel. Okay, okay, I'm treating you as

867
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Speaker 1: goodness of why you think of the B and B

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Speaker 1: so just for everyone. It's kind of hard to hear

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Speaker 1: that audio a little bit, but the lead singer says,

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Speaker 1: you're here as humans. Thank you for being here as humans,

871
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Speaker 1: and also thank you to all the Palestinians in the audience.

872
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Speaker 1: That's kind of a weird way to approach this. Ben.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, well, as I've said, you know, the Yiddish word

874
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Speaker 8: for him is schmuck. He's he's terrible. I mean, when

875
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Speaker 8: when your second worst decision actually is marry Gwyneth Paltrow,

876
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Speaker 8: you know things are going wrong for you. But Chris

877
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Speaker 8: Martin doing this routine here. Can you imagine any other

878
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Speaker 8: group of people that he would do this for, truly,

879
00:49:43,239 --> 00:49:45,200
Speaker 8: think of the situation reversed. You have a couple of people.

880
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Speaker 8: He calls him up on stage, he says, where are

881
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Speaker 8: you from? And they say the Gaza Strip and he says, well,

882
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Speaker 8: I just want to make clear you're humans. So first

883
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Speaker 8: of all, Chris Martin is not the person who gets

884
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Speaker 8: to bestow humanity upon you. Chris Martin that he's not

885
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Speaker 8: a cold Play fan. We've got here, mister Shapiro, but go.

886
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Speaker 9: Ahead, yeah, no, cold Play sucks.

887
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Speaker 8: But also like the idea that he's going to like

888
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Speaker 8: knight you as a human because you have come to

889
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Speaker 8: a cold Play concert and then to immediately swivel and say,

890
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Speaker 8: oh yeah. And by the way, the people who are

891
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Speaker 8: on the other side of the war from the people

892
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Speaker 8: they're on the side of and who initiated, you know,

893
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Speaker 8: the worst massacre of Jews since the Holocaust. We got

894
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Speaker 8: some of those in the stadium as well, And I

895
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Speaker 8: just want to acknowledge it if this weren't Palestinians and

896
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Speaker 8: they came up and said, we're from the Gaza Strip.

897
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Speaker 8: Can you imagine a situation in which Chris Martin then

898
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Speaker 8: turns around and says, and also to all the Israelis

899
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Speaker 8: in the audience, and it's cont for all the Israelis,

900
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Speaker 8: and that we're so happy to see you here, no

901
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Speaker 8: way in hell. It just shows you that default leftism

902
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Speaker 8: at this point has just turned to a sort of

903
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Speaker 8: anti Israel pro hamas Gaza sympathetic stands, and that that's

904
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Speaker 8: why he feels uncomfortable. I mean, that's the real question

905
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Speaker 8: we should be asking, is why does he feel so

906
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Speaker 8: damn uncomfortable?

907
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Speaker 9: Like who cares?

908
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Speaker 8: He's got a couple of fans they come from Israel.

909
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Speaker 8: If I were giving a concert and somebody came up

910
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Speaker 8: and they said, I'm from Russia. Okay, when you start

911
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Speaker 8: lecturing them aout the Russia Ukraine War, it's bizarre.

912
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Speaker 2: We're talking to Ben Shapiro. Ben, we were talking the

913
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Speaker 2: last hour about the Graham Lenihan situation in England. Five

914
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Speaker 2: of the armed officers waiting for him as he comes

915
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Speaker 2: off the airplane over tweets that the British government deemed

916
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Speaker 2: worthy of investigation. How do we fix this? Because I

917
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Speaker 2: think Western civilization, if we are in the position where

918
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Speaker 2: countries that should be natural American allies are sending police

919
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Speaker 2: to investigate tweets. And I'm not talking about tweets where

920
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Speaker 2: you say, hey, I'm going to kill the president of

921
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Speaker 2: the United States. Obviously direct threats of violence are different,

922
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Speaker 2: but clear jokes.

923
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Speaker 1: How do we fix this?

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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, I think that there are definitely levers

925
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Speaker 8: of pressure that we can exert on the UK. I

926
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Speaker 8: think that obviously we have a lot of the military cooperation,

927
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Speaker 8: economic cooperation with the UK, and President Trump is very

928
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Speaker 8: fond of using leverage in a lot of these different situations,

929
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Speaker 8: up to and including things like, for example, tariffs. I

930
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Speaker 8: don't think that would be a bad policy here saying

931
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Speaker 8: to the UK, listen, we cannot do proper commerce with

932
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Speaker 8: the country that, by the way, will actually pass laws

933
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Speaker 8: that have an effect on American commerce because whatever is

934
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Speaker 8: the free speech code in Britain, which apparently does not

935
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Speaker 8: include bad old tweets. If that is the standard, they

936
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Speaker 8: will apply that to tech companies in the United States.

937
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Speaker 8: They'll apply that to x they will apply that to Facebook.

938
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Speaker 8: This has been like a very hot and fraught topic

939
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Speaker 8: for the tech companies, the social media companies. How do

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Speaker 8: you even operate in countries in Europe that have different

941
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Speaker 8: speech standards. If it is now going to be a

942
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Speaker 8: prosecutable offense if you tweet something, then how exactly is

943
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Speaker 8: Twitter supposed to set its policies for the United States

944
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Speaker 8: your point? And so I do think that the government

945
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Speaker 8: does have some areas of leverage here, but it does

946
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Speaker 8: more deeply speak to this cultural rot at the heart

947
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Speaker 8: of Western civilization. Now that the kind of importation of

948
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Speaker 8: people who hate the principles of the country and then

949
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Speaker 8: a pandering to precisely those principles. Because the same exact

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Speaker 8: country that is now prosecuting a comedian for making bad

951
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Speaker 8: tweets over trans topics is the same country that covered up,

952
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Speaker 8: you know, actual Muslim grooming gangs in the UK, and

953
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Speaker 8: that is currently, by the way, attempting to now import

954
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Speaker 8: apparently thousands of gozzins from the Gaza strip. That's something

955
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Speaker 8: that was announced by Eva Cooper, the Home Secretary, literally yesterday.

956
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Speaker 8: So good luck to civilization that is so intent on

957
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Speaker 8: committing suicide.

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Speaker 1: My goodness, talk to us, Ben if you would, about

959
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Speaker 1: the book, which I know just came out yesterday, and

960
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Speaker 1: it's got a premise that this audience is going to

961
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Speaker 1: want to hear about lions and scavengers. The true story

962
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Speaker 1: of America walk us through a little bit of.

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Speaker 8: This, sure, So this is the basic idea, is that

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Speaker 8: humanity at this point is divided between lions, people who

965
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Speaker 8: wish to build, who wish to uphold and strengthen important

966
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Speaker 8: institutions like family, church, bounce of power, private property. Those

967
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Speaker 8: are the lions, the people who wish to build and

968
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Speaker 8: make the world a better place. And then there are scavengers,

969
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Speaker 8: people who are creatures of envy who just want to

970
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Speaker 8: tear everything down. They see problems in their life, they

971
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Speaker 8: attribute it to the systems that they've actually benefited from,

972
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Speaker 8: and then decide they want to tear it down. And

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Speaker 8: one of the points that I make in the book

974
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Speaker 8: is that this is just a question of populations and groups,

975
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Speaker 8: it's also a question inside the human heart that every

976
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Speaker 8: morning we all have to get up and decide whether

977
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Speaker 8: to be a lion or a scavenger. We all have

978
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Speaker 8: problems in our life, so we decide to attribute that

979
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Speaker 8: to some outside conspiratorial malign force and then tilted windmills

980
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Speaker 8: and make our life force. Or do we decide to

981
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Speaker 8: get up and actually make our life better by taking

982
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Speaker 8: the duty bound moral action that day. A civilization that

983
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Speaker 8: takes the lions, the innovators, the defenders of the civilization,

984
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Speaker 8: the people who build the social fabric, and then basically

985
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Speaker 8: attacks them because they are too successful, because they're the

986
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Speaker 8: oppressors or the exploitative, is a civilization doomed to failure.

987
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Speaker 8: And I think that we are as a civilization facing

988
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Speaker 8: that possibility.

989
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Speaker 2: Ben, how should we handle Buck and I were just

990
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Speaker 2: talking about this, and I do think in the wake

991
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Speaker 2: of COVID and in the wake of so much cultural shift.

992
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Speaker 2: I'm sure you saw Malcolm Gladwell come out and say, hey,

993
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Speaker 2: basically I got everything wrong on the trans issue. Of course,

994
00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to compete in women's sports, But he

995
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:07,120
Speaker 2: said at the Sloan Conference at MIT the exact opposite.

996
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Speaker 2: A few years ago on a panel, I shared that

997
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Speaker 2: there were direct consequences for me and my media company

998
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Speaker 2: when it comes to companies that would advertise with us

999
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Speaker 2: or not because I said the truth that men shouldn't

1000
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Speaker 2: be able.

1001
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Speaker 1: To compete with women.

1002
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Speaker 2: But if you are on the wrong side of that

1003
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Speaker 2: issue or any issue, public statements like Gladwell, how should

1004
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 2: we take them convenient and real or is this an

1005
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 2: attempt to acknowledge that all humans get things wrong and

1006
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,160
Speaker 2: sometimes we should publicly point that out.

1007
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Speaker 8: So you know, I think that forgiveness is usually the

1008
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Speaker 8: better alternative here, like man magnanimity in victory, I think

1009
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Speaker 8: is probably the best alternative. But now he's in a

1010
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Speaker 8: trustment verify situation. If we run up against another one

1011
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Speaker 8: of these things and Gladwell takes the wrong side of it,

1012
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Speaker 8: then I think it's fair to ask him the question,

1013
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 8: are you doing this because of the public pressure that

1014
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Speaker 8: you are receiving, because obviously you've done that before. I

1015
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Speaker 8: think it's better we actually want to incentivize people to

1016
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Speaker 8: do this right, just as a movement. We want to

1017
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Speaker 8: incentivize people to come forward and say I got it wrong.

1018
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 8: I never should have caved to this sort of pressure,

1019
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Speaker 8: and we want to create incentive structure so they don't

1020
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Speaker 8: cave to the pressure again. If we just kind of

1021
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Speaker 8: take their apology and then bootstump them, then what we

1022
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Speaker 8: are actually doing is encouraging people not to reverse themselves,

1023
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Speaker 8: not to correct the mistakes of the past.

1024
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Speaker 1: Well, Ben, I have a couple of just grab bag

1025
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: but important questions to throw your away as well and

1026
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Speaker 1: remember everyone, Ben's book has just come out yesterday and

1027
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Speaker 1: it is Lions and Scavengers. So Ben, first of all,

1028
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Speaker 1: because you would have some experience with this, because of

1029
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Speaker 1: your friend and colleague, mister Matt Walsh, Kamala Harris is

1030
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Speaker 1: going to Clay's hometown of Nashville to give a book tour,

1031
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,440
Speaker 1: and the audience seems very the audience of this show

1032
00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,959
Speaker 1: is very convinced that it is Clay's duty. I would

1033
00:56:52,040 --> 00:56:54,759
Speaker 1: argue his duty to wear a Future Is Female t

1034
00:56:54,920 --> 00:56:57,760
Speaker 1: shirt and put his hair up in a Matt Walsh

1035
00:56:57,840 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 1: homage style man bun and go to the VIP section

1036
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,880
Speaker 1: of the Kamala book tour event in Clay's hometown of Nashville.

1037
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Speaker 1: Where do you, sir, as also someone who spends a

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Speaker 1: lot of time in Nashville, come down on this issue.

1039
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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm shocked that you're even asking the question.

1040
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Speaker 8: Of course, he has a moral, perhaps a biblical obligation

1041
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Speaker 8: to do that. Actually, I would say that he may

1042
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Speaker 8: be consigned to the everlasting flims of Hell if he doesn't.

1043
00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:22,160
Speaker 8: I think that that's on the table. If he doesn't

1044
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Speaker 8: do this, I think that pretty clearly he has to

1045
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Speaker 8: do it.

1046
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Speaker 1: No I just I just wanted Ben to get on

1047
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Speaker 1: the record with millions of people listening Clay that this

1048
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: the future's female t shirt. We know what the future

1049
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:36,360
Speaker 1: is of this mission. And now Ben has weighed in

1050
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:39,160
Speaker 1: heartily on the side of the audience and yours truly,

1051
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:40,880
Speaker 1: which is I think this needs to happen.

1052
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Speaker 9: And God himself, God himself.

1053
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Speaker 8: I'm not sure where it's actually written in the Bible,

1054
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Speaker 8: but if you have to bet, put it in Leviticus.

1055
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Speaker 2: Five hundred dollars is the cheapest ticket to go watch

1056
00:57:50,680 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: Kamala Harrison Nashville, which I still can't believe, and it

1057
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 2: goes all the way up to twenty seven hundred play

1058
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 2: you're super rich. Give me a break.

1059
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Speaker 1: One more thing on this though, Ben, because because he

1060
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:01,360
Speaker 1: help us with us, Clay and I have a little

1061
00:58:01,360 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: bet going, we're not gonna able to solve it for

1062
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Speaker 1: a while. Is Kamala Harris going to run again for president?

1063
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Speaker 1: We will mark this down. We will have this clip

1064
00:58:09,360 --> 00:58:10,680
Speaker 1: for you when you come back in a few years,

1065
00:58:10,680 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: and we know the answer. Is she gonna run again?

1066
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Speaker 1: Or was it too disastrous? And she even she knows it.

1067
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Speaker 8: Yeah, not in twenty twenty eight, I mean, there are

1068
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 8: so many wineries in California, she has to get through first.

1069
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Speaker 1: That's good line, all right.

1070
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Speaker 2: So here's a here's a big, big picture of question.

1071
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Speaker 2: This is what my book, which is out in November,

1072
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Speaker 2: that I've spent a lot of time grappling with. I know,

1073
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Speaker 2: you've got young kids, I've got the three boys. How

1074
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Speaker 2: do Democrats, Like, let's leave aside a big structural issues

1075
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:44,520
Speaker 2: that they clearly have, but how do Democrats get back

1076
00:58:44,920 --> 00:58:49,680
Speaker 2: to where men, just normal dudes, do not see their

1077
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,880
Speaker 2: party as a party of feminized absurdity? How do they

1078
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,120
Speaker 2: get back to where a regular guy who wants to

1079
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:00,400
Speaker 2: have a beer and go watch a game would vote Democrat?

1080
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 2: Because I think that's the biggest issue that they actually face.

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00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 2: Leaving aside the particulars of what their policies are, what

1082
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:08,880
Speaker 2: would you think they need to do?

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Speaker 8: I mean, the fact that we even have to ask

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00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,160
Speaker 8: the question means that there's not really an easy way

1085
00:59:13,160 --> 00:59:16,000
Speaker 8: out for them, because that's like, how do you cosplay masculinity?

1086
00:59:16,600 --> 00:59:18,560
Speaker 8: And the answer is, I mean, you really don't have

1087
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 8: to if you're just a dude. So how about you

1088
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,920
Speaker 8: start with men should not play in women's sports?

1089
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 9: Duh?

1090
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 8: Men are not women, and a rama manual actually is

1091
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 8: now coming out and saying that, how about you, like

1092
00:59:27,480 --> 00:59:28,960
Speaker 8: just go act in the world as a man and

1093
00:59:29,000 --> 00:59:31,680
Speaker 8: get caught on camera acting in the world as a

1094
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 8: man unapologetically. You don't have to ask President Trump for

1095
00:59:35,160 --> 00:59:36,800
Speaker 8: j Evans what it's like to be a man, because

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00:59:36,800 --> 00:59:39,320
Speaker 8: they're just doing kind of man things, which doesn't that's

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Speaker 8: I'm not even talking about, like picking up heavy weights

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00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 8: and walking around bare Chester or something like being a

1099
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Speaker 8: normal dude. Actually, isn't that difficult for those of us

1100
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:48,560
Speaker 8: who are dudes. But Democrats seem to have a very

1101
00:59:48,560 --> 00:59:50,560
Speaker 8: tough time with that, and they keep apologizing for it.

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00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:52,680
Speaker 8: By the way, got to give you big credit right

1103
00:59:52,720 --> 00:59:54,720
Speaker 8: there at Clay for pumping your own book in a

1104
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,520
Speaker 8: spot where you're supposed to be pumping mine. That is

1105
00:59:56,560 --> 00:59:58,520
Speaker 8: a bold movie going.

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Speaker 1: To call you out for that. But I'm glad he's

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01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 1: got a book.

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01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:05,760
Speaker 2: Ben has got a book Scavengers and Lions. I encourage

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01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:08,200
Speaker 2: you to all buy it while you're there. My book

1110
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,360
Speaker 2: is called Balls. It's not out till November, but you

1111
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,360
Speaker 2: can pre order it and you can buy them together,

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01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:16,920
Speaker 2: which seems like a brilliant idea. By the way, bunks

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01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: got a book out in January, can get three books

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01:00:19,120 --> 01:00:19,760
Speaker 2: at one time.

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Speaker 1: It's just brilliant. It's just the brilliant spundle of one line.

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01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 2: You know better than anybody been. You have to be

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01:00:25,720 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 2: shameless to cut through the noise.

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Speaker 9: Always be closing, buddy.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the books. One last thing for you. Also

1120
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:37,040
Speaker 1: helping us settle another bet, the greatest fictional children's series

1121
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:42,800
Speaker 1: of all time, Chronicles of Narnia or the Little you

1122
01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,240
Speaker 1: Know Wizard Boy Books by Harry k Rowling Harry Potter.

1123
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Speaker 8: So, I mean, honestly, I'd go off off the board.

1124
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,560
Speaker 8: There's a there's a series called the Edward Eager series

1125
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 8: that is fantastics from the fifties that that's worth three.

1126
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 8: But you gotta go Chronicles of Narnia boom.

1127
01:00:57,720 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: Having said that, Travis, I mean, does.

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Speaker 9: Its religious thematics? Come on? I mean, you're learning, like

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01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 9: reading about lions.

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Speaker 1: It's cool. I You're both are wrong.

1131
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Speaker 2: It's good. I enjoyed it. But Harry Potter's better. Doesn't

1132
01:01:08,560 --> 01:01:12,120
Speaker 2: jk Rowling deserve a lot of credit. She's a billionaire.

1133
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,000
Speaker 2: She didn't need to step into the gender identity battles.

1134
01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,400
Speaker 2: But she just couldn't keep her mouth shut because she

1135
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:22,000
Speaker 2: saw this as being foundational in many ways. I find

1136
01:01:22,040 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 2: her to be one of the true heroes. We talked

1137
01:01:23,640 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: about the comedians getting arrested in Britain, but I find

1138
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: her to be one of the true heroes actually right now,

1139
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 2: totally unexpectedly. I never would have would have anticipated this occurring.

1140
01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:35,880
Speaker 2: I totally agree with this. I mean, she really did

1141
01:01:35,880 --> 01:01:37,479
Speaker 2: not have to put herself out there, and the fact

1142
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,840
Speaker 2: that she did and then she's on Twitter every day

1143
01:01:39,880 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 2: defending it in the most aggressive way.

1144
01:01:42,600 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 9: She's awesome. Like, really, kudos to her.

1145
01:01:45,640 --> 01:01:49,960
Speaker 1: Ben Shapiro's book is out and it is Lions and Scavengers,

1146
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:52,400
Speaker 1: and get yourself a copy and maybe pick up other

1147
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:53,760
Speaker 1: books as you go. We'll leave that up to you,

1148
01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:56,160
Speaker 1: but go get Lions and Scavengers. Ben, thanks for making

1149
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 1: the time for us.

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01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 9: Thanks guys, appreciate it.

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