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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show winsday edition of

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Speaker 2: the program. It appears we have a speaker. He is

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Speaker 2: Mike Johnson. A lot of you would not know him.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine I did not know him beforehand from Louisiana.

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Speaker 2: It appears that he is going to have the votes

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Speaker 2: when the vote is officially cast on the floor of

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Speaker 2: the House of Representatives. So that is underway. We will

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Speaker 2: update you on all of that. Lots of news coming

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Speaker 2: out of Israel, including the United States asking Israel and

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Speaker 2: as Israel evidently agreeing not to invade Gaza until there's

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Speaker 2: more American support there, raising a lot of questions about

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Speaker 2: what might be coming. We'll have Buck put on his

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Speaker 2: foreign affairs hat and analyze all of that for us.

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Speaker 1: But Buck, I want to start with the response.

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Speaker 2: That we've seen in the United States to the Hamas attack,

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Speaker 2: particularly on college and university campuses, which has been a

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Speaker 2: big story. And last night, as I was getting ready

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Speaker 2: to bed, brush their teeth, do all the things that

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Speaker 2: for bed. I saw a story and I couldn't believe

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Speaker 2: it was real. And I actually waited about a half

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Speaker 2: hour and kept doing research on it because I just

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Speaker 2: I couldn't believe that this could.

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Speaker 1: Have been happening.

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Speaker 2: And so I think most people out there know I

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Speaker 2: went to George Washington University. We've talked some about where

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Speaker 2: we went to school.

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Speaker 1: It is a.

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Speaker 2: School just about four blocks from the White House in Washington,

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Speaker 2: d C. And it has a population that's close to

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Speaker 2: thirty percent Jewish, which is a big population of Jewish students.

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Speaker 2: I think it was even higher than that when and

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Speaker 2: I was enrolled there twenty some odd years ago. And

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Speaker 2: actually Buck, when we were in DC last week, I

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Speaker 2: walked through GW's campus because the school had received a

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Speaker 2: decent amount of attention because there had been a pro

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Speaker 2: Hamas protest that had taken place on campus featuring students,

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Speaker 2: and so I just kind of wanted to walk through

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Speaker 2: the campus like someone would who went to college, see

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Speaker 2: what it looked like, see what the vibe was.

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Speaker 1: That was last week.

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Speaker 2: Last night, near the center of GW's campus Buck is

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Speaker 2: the Gelman Library, and the Geleman Library was named for

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Speaker 2: and funded by the donations of Holocaust survivors. There are

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Speaker 2: many high donor individuals at GW if you walk through

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Speaker 2: the campus that are Jewish. The GW population has largely

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Speaker 2: been Jewish for some time. Lots of people from Long Island,

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Speaker 2: lots of people from Philadelphia, Lots of Jewish families have

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Speaker 2: sent their kids to GW for some time. Down the

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Speaker 2: very common school.

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Speaker 1: There.

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Speaker 2: Being put on the side of the building by a

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Speaker 2: student protest were the following phrases on again a library

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Speaker 2: that was built by Holocaust survivors to educate students at GW.

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Speaker 1: Glory to our martyrs.

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Speaker 2: Divestment from Zionist genocide, now free Palestine from the River

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Speaker 2: to the Sea, and more. But those are just three examples.

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Speaker 2: If you want to see pictures of it, you can

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Speaker 2: go to my Twitter feed. I'm sure we'll post a

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Speaker 2: story about it up at clayanbuck dot com as well.

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Speaker 2: And Buck we talked about this a little bit, I

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Speaker 2: But GW removed it had been the colonials, George Washington,

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Speaker 2: the colonial army. So the idea was that the mascot

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Speaker 2: that it was too closely the GW administration did, too

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Speaker 2: colonial army, we were the colonists fighting back against the colonization.

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Speaker 1: So it's the exact opposite of that. But a lot

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Speaker 2: But Buck, I think it was the root symbol of

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Speaker 1: And the fact that.

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Speaker 2: This is happening not only a GW but everywhere is

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Speaker 2: I think, frankly all army.

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Speaker 3: I mean, imagine if after nine to eleven, on college

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Speaker 1: The Middle East basically right, you know.

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Speaker 3: What bin Laden's philosophy is about the US needs to

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Speaker 3: I think about what's going on right now with these

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Speaker 3: There's there's really it's very hard not to see what

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Speaker 3: get to this place? I mean that's one aspect of it.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think campus culture has been getting increasingly

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Speaker 3: reality and their role in it. But for this to

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Speaker 3: is indicative of how far this rot has spread. You know,

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Speaker 3: there are some interesting articles Clay that are showing PAMAS

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Speaker 3: host of them. You know, the Cutter has donated billions

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Speaker 1: They hosted the World Cup.

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Speaker 3: Well, sure what I'm talking about it on college campuses specifically,

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Speaker 3: I'm talking about hundreds of millions of dollars donated from

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Speaker 1: And that's just Cutter. Same thing with Saudi.

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Speaker 3: a little bit under the surface, but Clay, when you

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Speaker 2: Now, I Buck, I think it's a question that adults

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Speaker 2: don't like the idea of expelling students for sharing political opinions.

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Speaker 2: I think that's the wrong opinion. We talked about it.

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Speaker 3: They're going to want to expel students for using the

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Speaker 3: wrong pronouns. As you know, this is the problem, this

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Speaker 3: and look at UVA. Carol Markowitz mentioned this with us

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Speaker 1: And didn't actually even say the thing that she's alleged

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Speaker 2: Yes, but that is emblematic of the of the high stakes,

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Speaker 2: the idea of expelling students, but I would say this,

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Speaker 2: and you're seeing this happen at the University of Pennsylvania,

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Speaker 2: something toxic in the culture now. And this was not

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Speaker 2: after nine to eleven at GW they're being students who

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Speaker 2: Again your point, you're not using pronouns correctly, we're going

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Speaker 3: So I do think that, you know, if you're going

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Speaker 2: And when you're putting on the side of a building

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Speaker 1: That's what I mean. You know, this is you know,

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Speaker 3: You're not a free speech absolutely know if you can

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Speaker 3: Well, we were just talking about the anti Semitic outbursts

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Speaker 3: On Tuesday evening the university became aware of several unauthorized

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think you can say students believe

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Speaker 3: So you have to think of this, you know, think

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Speaker 3: tens of thousands, perhaps over one hundred thousand rockets, all

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Speaker 3: these different like Fazer three, Fazer five. Usually you have

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Speaker 3: these kadayusha's. It's kind of an old Russian model of

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Speaker 3: a rocket. That's what the that's what Hamas tends to

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Speaker 3: fire off, and even more homemade stuff, although they also

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Speaker 3: have their own pipeline to get in more advanced illicit weapons.

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Speaker 3: Hezbola has some of the better Iranian weapons. They also

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Speaker 3: use drones a lot. You're seeing a lot more usage

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Speaker 3: of drones in weaponized form. You have the West Bank

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Speaker 3: Clay Wall Street Journal actually doing a whole deep dive

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Speaker 3: into the West Bank, which is the other Palestinian controlled

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Speaker 3: territory adjoining Israel where there could be They believe there

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Speaker 3: have been a lot of arms infiltrated into the West

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Speaker 3: Bank and that may become another front of conflict once

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Speaker 3: the Gaza invasion begins. You have the Syrian Iranian backed militias,

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Speaker 3: so Iranian backed militias in Syria that can fire rockets

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Speaker 3: and do other things into Israel. And then you have

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Speaker 3: the possibility of Iran or even the Huthi militants in Yemen.

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Speaker 3: Remember there's this Huthi militia or Huthy you know, militant

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Speaker 3: group in Yemen that is backed by Iran that we've

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Speaker 3: been sort of helping the Many government fight against for

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Speaker 3: many years now.

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Speaker 1: But they could fire rockets.

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Speaker 3: The whole point of your Clay is there's all these

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Speaker 3: different possible launch pads for you know, for missiles into

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Speaker 3: not just Israel, but also there's a US troop presence

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Speaker 3: in Syria and a US troop presence in Iraq. And

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Speaker 3: if all of these different Shia militia groups were activated

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Speaker 3: on Iran's behest at Aroon's behest because of the invasion

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Speaker 3: in the Gaza, we would have hundreds even a few

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Speaker 3: thousand of troops directly in harm's way, including other US interests.

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Speaker 3: And I'm not even talking about the possibility of oil

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Speaker 3: tankers being hit by land based missiles in the Straits

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Speaker 3: of Hormuz, which would be a natural disater, a ecological disaster,

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Speaker 3: a global recession.

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Speaker 1: So that's how this all spirals out.

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Speaker 3: US positioning right now, the carrier groups, that's a strike

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Speaker 3: force capability, but also we have these aegeous missile destroyers

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Speaker 3: that are able to help intercept effectively augment the Iron

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Speaker 3: Dome if need be. Because the most likely additional combatant

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Speaker 3: into all this, the one that really has people worried,

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Speaker 3: would be Hesbola just unleashing thousands of rockets and Israel.

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Speaker 3: Israel's not very big, so they don't have to be

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Speaker 3: accurate rockets, particularly to do tremendous damage.

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Speaker 2: You've been in a lot of these rooms, so and

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Speaker 2: I'm asking you to analyze this from a foreign affairs perspective.

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Speaker 2: One of the big challenges I'm betting is you're trying

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Speaker 2: to analyze the game theory of what might happen elsewhere

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Speaker 2: with somewhat limited information, sometimes accurate, sometimes inaccurate information, and

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Speaker 2: you almost have to think probabilistically, right, what are the

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Speaker 2: odds that this will happen if we do this right?

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Speaker 1: Is kind of the way that you're thinking. If then,

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Speaker 1: if you.

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Speaker 2: Were sitting there right now, based on what you know,

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Speaker 2: what do you think the chances are from a probabilistic perspective,

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Speaker 2: that this spirals into something far more significant in the

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Speaker 2: Middle East than just Israel going on in taking on Hamas.

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Speaker 3: I think the likelihood here is that the moment that

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Speaker 3: Israel goes in has Belah. And remember Israel had a

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Speaker 3: nasty short war with Hesbela, I think it was back

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Speaker 3: in two thousand and six, and and Israel learned some

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Speaker 3: lessons about the advanced anti tank munitions that Hesbela had

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Speaker 3: gotten access. That's what Hesbela kidnapped some Israeli soldiers, right,

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Speaker 3: is that what was the precipitating factor for that incident

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Speaker 3: if memory serves Yeah, and then and then there was

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Speaker 3: a you know, cross border fighting that was happening there.

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Speaker 3: I think the likeliest thing is you'll have Hesbela firing

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Speaker 3: off a lot of missiles. You'll have the Iron Dome

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Speaker 3: trying to take as much of that out of the

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Speaker 3: sky as it can.

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Speaker 1: While the Israelis go into Gaza, the IDEF goes into Gaza.

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Speaker 3: I think Iran will make a lot of noise about

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Speaker 3: more things happening. They may fire off some militias, may

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Speaker 3: fire off some missiles at US basis, just as a

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Speaker 3: show of force. But I do I mean, maybe this,

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Speaker 3: this could be wishful thinking on my part. I do

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Speaker 3: think that there's a recognition in Tehran that if they

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Speaker 3: were to become direct direct combatants in this, you know,

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Speaker 3: if they use their Ani in territory to be launching

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Speaker 3: directly attacks on Israel or US assets, or if they

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Speaker 3: were to I mean, the moment they start killing I

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Speaker 3: know they've killed Americans already in Israel, We've talked about that,

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Speaker 3: but the moment that they're specifically targeting Americans on bases,

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Speaker 3: they probably recognize that our response would be, uh, well,

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Speaker 3: you would hope our response will be swift and severe,

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Speaker 3: even under even under a Biden administration.

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Speaker 1: I think that they would recognize that.

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Speaker 3: So I think it's probably a two front war Israel

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Speaker 3: faces for a while while it's trying to do what

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Speaker 3: it can to destroy Hamas and Gaza. But those dominoes

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Speaker 3: could fall, and that's whatever everyone sits there, the dominoes

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Speaker 3: I laid out these different militia groups, Iran's tentacles and

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Speaker 3: also its logistics and supply. You remember, Iran now can

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Speaker 3: run it can run munitions and you know, weapons and

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Speaker 3: personnel from you know, it can go from Iran through Iraq,

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Speaker 3: through Syria, through Lebanon right into uh, you know, right

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Speaker 3: right against Israel, I should say. And they've also been

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Speaker 3: able to do the same thing with different terrorist you know,

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Speaker 3: lines of supply communication for Hamas, for Palestinian Islamic Jihad,

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Speaker 3: which is the main militant group in the West Bank.

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Speaker 3: Uh So that's and and there's all. There could be

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Speaker 3: a West Bank component of this as well, which we

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Speaker 3: haven't really seen much of yet.

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Speaker 1: There's been a.

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Speaker 3: Little bit of of you know, activity there violence, but

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Speaker 3: that could open as well. So Israel's up against it

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Speaker 3: in the US is basically showing up in a way

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Speaker 3: we haven't had to in the past to say, you know,

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Speaker 3: we're here.

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Speaker 1: If things start to get out of hand, we'll.

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Speaker 2: Take some of your calls by the way, eight hundred

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Speaker 2: want to ask Buck about the questions in Israel, if

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Speaker 3: Welcome back Team eight hundred two A two two eight

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Speaker 3: a two. Give us call on the phone lines here

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Speaker 3: on Clay and Buck. You know we're just talking about

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Speaker 3: the tactical realities in the area of operations for Israel

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Speaker 3: right now, what's going on in the in the broader

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Speaker 3: Middle East. And there's this Wall Street Journal piece that

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Speaker 3: in the weeks leading up to the October seventh attack,

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Speaker 3: hundreds of Hamas fighters received specialized combat training in Iran.

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Speaker 3: This is a according to people familiar with intelligence related

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Speaker 3: to all this and reported in the Wall Street Journal.

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Speaker 3: You know, Clay, one of the issues that we also

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Speaker 3: have to always remember as you're looking at all of

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Speaker 3: this and as it plays out, is that the Democrat Party,

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Speaker 3: and it really stretches back to the Obama administration, particularly

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Speaker 3: Obama's second term, has taken this line that Iran, if

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Speaker 3: only we would negotiate with them more, if only we

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Speaker 3: would be whatever more reasonable or more diplomatic, or whatever

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Speaker 3: it may be in their minds, Iran could become a

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Speaker 3: normal country, like Iran will be going through the process

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Speaker 3: of liberalizing and becoming, you know, a country like we

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Speaker 3: don't sit around worried about what like Tunisia is going

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Speaker 3: to be up to tomorrow, like everyone gets long fun right,

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Speaker 3: this is the roots fallacy, or this is like the

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Speaker 3: fundamental falsehood of Democrat foreign policy as it relates to

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Speaker 3: the Middle East these days. Other than there's also all

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Speaker 3: the you know, just general anti Israeli, anti Semitic sentiment,

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Speaker 3: and that is, we can bring Iran into the fold

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Speaker 3: of the international community if we just get the right

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Speaker 3: structured agreement with them. Iran is Iran is a terrorist state.

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Speaker 3: I mean, Iran is as far from being a normalized

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Speaker 3: friendly nation to its neighbors into other countries, as you

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Speaker 3: know North Korea.

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Speaker 1: I mean, we used to refer to the acts of evil.

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Speaker 3: We took one of those out at considerable cost, but

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Speaker 3: the rest of the axis, I know people don't use

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Speaker 3: that term anymore, but very much state exactly the same,

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Speaker 3: which is, you know, Iran and North Korea, these are

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Speaker 3: enemy combatant states and need to be viewed that way.

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Speaker 1: But the Democrat Party refuses to see Iran for what

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Speaker 1: it is.

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Speaker 3: I'm not talking about the Iranian people, I'm talking about

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Speaker 3: the Iranian regime and military.

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Speaker 1: But that's the truth. Well, and not only Abuk.

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Speaker 2: I would say that things have gotten far more dangerous

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Speaker 2: because Russia and China have been pushed together there and

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Speaker 2: now Russia and China are reaching out to Iran. North

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Speaker 2: Korea still seems like a total, you know, misnomer of

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Speaker 2: a state. Almost they're just kind of out there as

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Speaker 2: a strange outlier, but doesn't mean that they're not dangerous.

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Speaker 2: And this is my concern at any point, and we

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Speaker 2: should mention that our good, my good friend Gavin Newsom

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Speaker 2: is currently in China hanging out with Chairman Z. It

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Speaker 2: does feel to me like buck China has suddenly gotten

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Speaker 2: nervous about its geopolitical standing. And I think again, if

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Speaker 2: you look at the data, population has begun to decline.

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Speaker 1: The overall growth rate of China.

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Speaker 2: Remember when everybody said, oh, China's gonna be the biggest

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Speaker 2: economy in the world.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't seem like it's going to be able to catch

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Speaker 1: the United States.

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Speaker 2: And I would argue that there's a little bit of

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Speaker 2: similarity now for China with what happened with Japan. But

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Speaker 2: suddenly China seems like they're trying to have a little

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Speaker 2: bit more reproachment, right that they're reaching out, they're trying

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Speaker 2: to talk to they they're trying they're talking about a

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Speaker 2: meeting between Biden and z and it's almost like everybody forgets, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 2: they unleashed COVID on the world. Through the Wuhan lab

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Speaker 2: and they never had any consequences at all for that,

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Speaker 2: and then they tried to bow up to the United States.

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Speaker 2: I wonder, and I'm afraid of whether this charm offensive

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Speaker 2: is designed to try to cover up what they may

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Speaker 2: try to do in Taiwan, because you know this from

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Speaker 2: studying history. A lot of times it's not when countries

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Speaker 2: are at their apex of power that they act out aggressively.

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Speaker 2: It's when they fear that they've begun to decline. And

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Speaker 2: I think certainly that's going on at Russia.

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Speaker 3: It's a way of immediately mobilizing the nation behind the

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Speaker 3: United calls, I mean fighting fighting wars as a way

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Speaker 3: to prop up actually regimes that lack legitimacy or support

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Speaker 3: among the people. Is that that's been around for as

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Speaker 3: long as there have been regimes. Taking Taiwan would not

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Speaker 3: be is a harder thing of depending who you talk

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Speaker 3: to you than a lot of people realize.

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Speaker 1: Going across you.

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Speaker 3: Know, one hundred miles of ocean amphibious landing Taiwan is getting.

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Speaker 3: You know, it's got pretty considerable defenses. The uh It's

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Speaker 3: actually very mountainous in one part of the country, very

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Speaker 3: very high terrain to be able to defend itself.

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Speaker 1: So that's all.

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Speaker 3: That's a consideration, apart from just the geopolitical realities right now,

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Speaker 3: which is what you don't want to have your China

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Speaker 3: is a whole lot of your boats get sunk on

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Speaker 3: the way to try to do some.

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Speaker 2: But if you were going to do it while the

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Speaker 2: US is caught up in both the Middle East and Europe,

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Speaker 2: I mean, men, you are officially in a world war.

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Speaker 1: Boys.

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Speaker 3: Just remember they don't they don't want our debt to

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Speaker 3: be workless because they own like trillions of it.

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Speaker 1: So here is that