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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody? This is

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Speaker 1: Peter Schreger. This is the Season with Peter Schreger. I

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Speaker 1: am joined by my lovely podcast producer, slash Wingman, slash engineer,

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Speaker 1: slash everything mister Aaron wang Kaufman, also joined by Jason

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Speaker 1: English from the iHeartMedia team. In the house here in

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Speaker 1: New York City on a Tuesday morning, and we're coming

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Speaker 1: off a dramatic victory for the Cincinnati Bengals to keep

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Speaker 1: their season alive against all odds, where Jake Browning went

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Speaker 1: into Jacksonville as a double digit underdog and was able

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Speaker 1: coming into the game with thoughts of a one seed

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Speaker 1: and a bye and home field throughout the playoff. The

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Speaker 1: last place in their division, and yet they're very much alive.

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Speaker 1: They're the eleven seed right now. And above them are

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks in at the moment I see Browning and he

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Speaker 1: was electric. He looked like he belonged out there. And

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Speaker 1: I did a little work on Jake Browning before he

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Speaker 1: Everyone I spoke to was like, oh, no, no, he's

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Speaker 1: ready for this. We'll hear that all the time. He's

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Speaker 1: ready for this. Jake Browning was awesome at the University

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Speaker 1: for the Huskies and then was finishing sixth in the

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Speaker 1: to Joe Burrow. Burrow goes down, they throw Browning in.

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Speaker 1: But the key was this past offseason. I'm told that

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Speaker 1: and if you watched on Monday Night, I'm sorry if

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Speaker 1: him just being too poetic or what. Jake Browning looks

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Speaker 1: like Joe Burrow, everything about him, the throwing motion, the confidence,

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Speaker 1: the moxie, and then we get to Good Morning Football

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Speaker 1: on Monday and it's this great story. I think the

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Speaker 1: to practice squad, to one team to another. So think

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Speaker 1: about all those little paper cuts and to finally get

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Speaker 1: and it kind of hits like Gatorade Player of the

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Speaker 1: to him. Bring all this up because we go around

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Speaker 1: the AFC specifically, and you're looking at teams and you've

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Speaker 1: if I'm just banking on yesteryear or I'm looking at

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Speaker 1: the Madden cover, you can't tell me that this Buffalo

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Speaker 1: just riddled with backup quarterbacks at every position, can't make

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Speaker 1: They've got the Chiefs where they've won before an arrowhead

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Speaker 2: We still have to face Mahomes, still at the face

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic.

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Speaker 1: I've got this Bill's Chiefs game circle. The Chiefs come

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Speaker 1: and that was overshadowing what Jordan Love did. And also

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Speaker 1: just how inept the Chiefs receivers look week in week out.

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Speaker 1: happening this week. I'm sorry. I'm looking at this playoff picture.

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Speaker 1: It is so wide open. And if you were to

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Speaker 1: I look at the Buffalo Bills with that ten seed.

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Speaker 1: say their season's over either. That is just how long

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Speaker 1: this NFL campaign is, all right? That's my thought on

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Speaker 1: the Jake Browning experience and what we've got in the AFC.

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Speaker 1: Real quick. On the NFC, I gotta say an apology,

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Speaker 1: have been the biggest Rams supporter for years, since McVeigh

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Speaker 1: Dear friend, this is the first year I ever didn't

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Speaker 1: pick the Rams to go to the playoffs. I just

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Speaker 1: didn't think there was a chance there's just too much

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Speaker 1: I love the NFL season always, but this is where

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Speaker 1: it gets real. It's post Thanksgiving and it's when each

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Speaker 1: Rams can win ten games this season. You win ten

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Speaker 1: comes to my apology. I didn't think they were gonna tank.

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Speaker 1: I just didn't think this was the year I left

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Speaker 1: the Rams out of the playoffs for the first time

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Speaker 1: on a first week at December, and I'm regretting that

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Speaker 1: decision before the season. Aaron, who were your Super Bowl

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Speaker 2: My see, before this season, I did Eagles Bengals.

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Speaker 1: or you can stay the same and double down Eagles.

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Speaker 2: You change after this weekend? I think you have to

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Speaker 2: Eagles writer, and I was like, man, the Bills were

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Speaker 4: room and Kelsey's you know, Kelsey and Lane were there

425
00:21:51,946 --> 00:21:54,746
Speaker 4: and they said, you know, maybe maybe maybe sometime we

426
00:21:54,786 --> 00:21:58,426
Speaker 4: should make a Christmas record and I was like, guys,

427
00:21:58,546 --> 00:21:59,586
Speaker 4: we should do it right now.

428
00:22:01,106 --> 00:22:01,906
Speaker 1: In the middle of the summer.

429
00:22:01,986 --> 00:22:03,826
Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, that's a good idea.

430
00:22:04,106 --> 00:22:06,946
Speaker 4: Let's just do it right now. You Lane in Jordan

431
00:22:06,986 --> 00:22:10,506
Speaker 4: my life. You guys can all sing. And so I

432
00:22:10,586 --> 00:22:13,666
Speaker 4: called Charlie Hall from the War on Drugs and he

433
00:22:13,746 --> 00:22:17,106
Speaker 4: was like, yeah, I can help you guys do it.

434
00:22:17,226 --> 00:22:19,306
Speaker 4: Long start short, We got together and so we put

435
00:22:19,346 --> 00:22:25,186
Speaker 4: out this record last year you can see, and I

436
00:22:25,226 --> 00:22:29,306
Speaker 4: was hoping like people would like the music and maybe

437
00:22:29,346 --> 00:22:32,746
Speaker 4: we would raise fifty thousand dollars to charity.

438
00:22:32,826 --> 00:22:34,386
Speaker 3: And that was it. Like when we first met.

439
00:22:34,426 --> 00:22:36,826
Speaker 4: They were like, let's make let's make it serious and

440
00:22:36,826 --> 00:22:39,506
Speaker 4: make like really good music. Let's have a lot of

441
00:22:39,506 --> 00:22:41,626
Speaker 4: fun doing it, and then let's do something good with

442
00:22:41,666 --> 00:22:42,506
Speaker 4: it around the holidays.

443
00:22:42,546 --> 00:22:44,626
Speaker 3: And so I was like, oh yeah, fifty thousand.

444
00:22:44,386 --> 00:22:48,546
Speaker 4: Dollars, that'd be awesome cool going Fast Forward. People loved it.

445
00:22:48,786 --> 00:22:51,706
Speaker 4: The Eagles had a great season that helped. We obviously

446
00:22:51,786 --> 00:22:55,106
Speaker 4: lost in the Super Bowl, but we sold, you know,

447
00:22:55,186 --> 00:23:01,506
Speaker 4: over twenty thousand records and we donated over one almost

448
00:23:01,586 --> 00:23:05,866
Speaker 4: one point three million dollars to Philadelphia organizations, and so

449
00:23:05,946 --> 00:23:08,506
Speaker 4: Fast Forward were like, well, we should do this again.

450
00:23:08,946 --> 00:23:13,666
Speaker 4: And now this second volume is out, which is eleven Songs.

451
00:23:14,106 --> 00:23:18,026
Speaker 4: An original song written by Jason, and we've already doubled

452
00:23:18,026 --> 00:23:20,786
Speaker 4: all our sales from last year and they're still on

453
00:23:20,866 --> 00:23:21,386
Speaker 4: sale now.

454
00:23:22,066 --> 00:23:24,706
Speaker 1: All right, you just kind of blew past the first part.

455
00:23:24,746 --> 00:23:26,586
Speaker 1: You're like, Yeah, So I called Charlie Hall from The

456
00:23:26,586 --> 00:23:29,266
Speaker 1: War on Drugs, which is you know, if you're not familiar,

457
00:23:29,346 --> 00:23:31,346
Speaker 1: go find them on Spotify wherever one of the most

458
00:23:31,346 --> 00:23:33,786
Speaker 1: popular bands of the last ten years. Like, you mustn't

459
00:23:33,786 --> 00:23:35,746
Speaker 1: have had a relationship with him. Are they Philly band?

460
00:23:35,866 --> 00:23:39,346
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're Philly band. I knew Charlie. So my background.

461
00:23:39,386 --> 00:23:41,146
Speaker 4: I have a foundation in Philly and I started in

462
00:23:41,186 --> 00:23:44,826
Speaker 4: twenty thirteen, and I have a show every summer, and

463
00:23:45,186 --> 00:23:50,786
Speaker 4: The War on Drugs played MTWB my benefits show in

464
00:23:50,866 --> 00:23:54,586
Speaker 4: twenty It's actually play It was twenty seventeen. It was

465
00:23:54,626 --> 00:23:57,666
Speaker 4: the year I left Philly. I was playing in Los Angeles.

466
00:23:57,866 --> 00:23:59,906
Speaker 4: It was the one concert Wherever had where I wasn't

467
00:23:59,946 --> 00:24:01,986
Speaker 4: physically there, but I had booked it a whole year

468
00:24:01,986 --> 00:24:04,826
Speaker 4: ahead of time. So anyways, Charlie. That's how I got

469
00:24:04,866 --> 00:24:07,746
Speaker 4: to know Charlie and the whole band and became friends

470
00:24:07,746 --> 00:24:12,186
Speaker 4: with Charlie, and I just knew how connected he was

471
00:24:12,226 --> 00:24:14,586
Speaker 4: in the music scene in Philadelphia. This, Philly has a

472
00:24:14,826 --> 00:24:17,746
Speaker 4: really big music scene, a great music scene, great music history,

473
00:24:18,306 --> 00:24:22,626
Speaker 4: and he was the perfect person to call to make

474
00:24:22,706 --> 00:24:24,426
Speaker 4: this happen. I mean, he could put it all together.

475
00:24:24,506 --> 00:24:26,906
Speaker 4: He has sort of the vision, and then he knew

476
00:24:26,986 --> 00:24:29,666
Speaker 4: all the musicians to call to help make it happen.

477
00:24:29,746 --> 00:24:32,666
Speaker 4: So it would not have happened without Charlie All.

478
00:24:33,586 --> 00:24:37,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, you've got a really cool history with Kelsey. You

479
00:24:37,066 --> 00:24:40,026
Speaker 1: guys went to college together at Cincinnati and you played

480
00:24:40,026 --> 00:24:43,746
Speaker 1: ball with him. Obviously, now people's sexiest man, the whole thing.

481
00:24:43,786 --> 00:24:46,746
Speaker 1: His brother's Dayton Taylor Swift, but you know Kelsey from

482
00:24:47,066 --> 00:24:50,946
Speaker 1: his teenage years. Talk about your friendship and kind of

483
00:24:51,386 --> 00:24:53,386
Speaker 1: the man that he's become, and how you've seen him

484
00:24:53,386 --> 00:24:55,466
Speaker 1: grow and mature, and the two of your friendship now

485
00:24:55,506 --> 00:24:58,146
Speaker 1: as you're working for the Eagles now for four years

486
00:24:58,466 --> 00:24:59,906
Speaker 1: and he's still one of the star players.

487
00:24:59,986 --> 00:25:02,826
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it's really cool.

488
00:25:02,826 --> 00:25:04,586
Speaker 3: I'm really happy for him and his family.

489
00:25:05,306 --> 00:25:09,066
Speaker 4: He you know, I don't want to say he hasn't

490
00:25:09,186 --> 00:25:11,626
Speaker 4: changed from when he was a walk on at U See,

491
00:25:11,626 --> 00:25:15,306
Speaker 4: because he's definitely changed and grown, but he is still

492
00:25:15,386 --> 00:25:18,546
Speaker 4: sort of fundamentally the core person that he was when

493
00:25:18,546 --> 00:25:23,746
Speaker 4: I met him. This like smart, creative, articulate, extremely hard worker,

494
00:25:23,906 --> 00:25:26,626
Speaker 4: humble like all of that, from when he was a

495
00:25:26,666 --> 00:25:30,746
Speaker 4: walk on at uc to getting a scholarship to winning

496
00:25:30,786 --> 00:25:33,346
Speaker 4: a super Bowl with the Eagles to you know, putting

497
00:25:33,386 --> 00:25:35,746
Speaker 4: out you know, a movie last year, to the number

498
00:25:35,746 --> 00:25:37,666
Speaker 4: one podcast. I mean, all all those things.

499
00:25:37,666 --> 00:25:38,426
Speaker 3: He hasn't changed.

500
00:25:38,466 --> 00:25:42,466
Speaker 4: But so happy for him, his family, and you know,

501
00:25:42,506 --> 00:25:44,426
Speaker 4: we were working on stuff together. I mean we we

502
00:25:44,746 --> 00:25:47,546
Speaker 4: started a record label together to make this this record.

503
00:25:48,626 --> 00:25:50,866
Speaker 4: We started a production company to sort of put out

504
00:25:50,906 --> 00:25:55,466
Speaker 4: his his document film last year. So the guy is

505
00:25:55,986 --> 00:25:59,506
Speaker 4: super smart, really creative, like I said, and it's been

506
00:25:59,546 --> 00:26:01,466
Speaker 4: it's been, you know, a pleasure for me to sort

507
00:26:01,466 --> 00:26:03,466
Speaker 4: of work with him and help him sort of take

508
00:26:03,506 --> 00:26:06,826
Speaker 4: these these ideas he has, uh in turn them into

509
00:26:06,866 --> 00:26:08,106
Speaker 4: something something real.

510
00:26:08,866 --> 00:26:13,386
Speaker 1: You've always been such a big thinker, but also I

511
00:26:13,386 --> 00:26:15,266
Speaker 1: would say a renaissance man in a way. Like I

512
00:26:15,306 --> 00:26:16,906
Speaker 1: remember when we interview you and you were on the

513
00:26:16,906 --> 00:26:19,186
Speaker 1: Texans You're always doing stuff in that community with the Eagles.

514
00:26:19,186 --> 00:26:20,426
Speaker 1: I remember there's a lot of stuff you did with

515
00:26:20,426 --> 00:26:23,146
Speaker 1: like the playgrounds in Philadelphia that was a big initiative

516
00:26:23,146 --> 00:26:25,786
Speaker 1: of yours. You always seem to get it. When you

517
00:26:25,826 --> 00:26:28,146
Speaker 1: were a current player. Where does that come from? How

518
00:26:28,146 --> 00:26:29,986
Speaker 1: did you always know that this is more than just

519
00:26:29,986 --> 00:26:31,946
Speaker 1: a sports and I'm gonna use this platform to do

520
00:26:31,946 --> 00:26:32,906
Speaker 1: bigger and better things.

521
00:26:33,106 --> 00:26:35,026
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know.

522
00:26:36,986 --> 00:26:40,826
Speaker 4: I mean my parents were sort of like always engaged

523
00:26:40,866 --> 00:26:43,586
Speaker 4: and pushed us, pushed me and my brothers to do stuff.

524
00:26:43,626 --> 00:26:44,706
Speaker 3: I just.

525
00:26:46,346 --> 00:26:49,426
Speaker 4: You know, I love football, like I still spend all

526
00:26:49,466 --> 00:26:54,586
Speaker 4: my time on people, and it's the greatest. But I

527
00:26:54,626 --> 00:27:01,506
Speaker 4: do think doing other stuff outside of football compliments my

528
00:27:01,586 --> 00:27:03,586
Speaker 4: ability to sort of be good at football, even in

529
00:27:03,626 --> 00:27:06,546
Speaker 4: my post playing days. Like I think having sort of

530
00:27:06,586 --> 00:27:10,066
Speaker 4: some business stuff going on keeps my mind sort of

531
00:27:10,226 --> 00:27:14,106
Speaker 4: energized and creative and all of it. You know, it

532
00:27:14,186 --> 00:27:16,626
Speaker 4: all sort of works together and fits together. So I'm just,

533
00:27:16,786 --> 00:27:20,826
Speaker 4: you know, trying to find opportunities to create things that

534
00:27:21,266 --> 00:27:24,706
Speaker 4: you know, people enjoy, and you know, in the end,

535
00:27:24,746 --> 00:27:27,746
Speaker 4: I think it benefits you know what I do, you know,

536
00:27:27,826 --> 00:27:29,586
Speaker 4: day to day still being involved in football.

537
00:27:30,866 --> 00:27:33,586
Speaker 1: If the listeners are like I remember, kind of you

538
00:27:33,586 --> 00:27:36,466
Speaker 1: were awesome, Like twenty eleven, you were a defensive Player

539
00:27:36,466 --> 00:27:40,666
Speaker 1: of the Month in November that season, you had eleven

540
00:27:40,666 --> 00:27:42,866
Speaker 1: and a half sacks. You played in all sixteen games,

541
00:27:42,866 --> 00:27:45,906
Speaker 1: and these were Texans teams that were going to the playoffs.

542
00:27:45,466 --> 00:27:46,706
Speaker 3: Every we were rolling back.

543
00:27:46,746 --> 00:27:50,186
Speaker 4: That was JJ Wats's first couple of years. Brian Cushing,

544
00:27:50,266 --> 00:27:55,586
Speaker 4: Demico Ryans, and Larryl Williams, they remembers the Letterman jackets.

545
00:27:55,626 --> 00:27:58,026
Speaker 4: That was my dumb ass and Sean Cody bringing the

546
00:27:58,066 --> 00:27:58,826
Speaker 4: letterman jacket we.

547
00:27:58,786 --> 00:28:00,786
Speaker 1: Went to So is that your idea? The history goes,

548
00:28:00,826 --> 00:28:02,546
Speaker 1: you guys are going up to Foxborough, it's a big

549
00:28:02,546 --> 00:28:05,146
Speaker 1: game against the Patriots. Patriots and Brady Daman, the whole crew,

550
00:28:05,386 --> 00:28:07,586
Speaker 1: whole crew, they're loaded, and you guys show up in

551
00:28:07,626 --> 00:28:09,586
Speaker 1: varsity jackets and then they kicked your ass on a

552
00:28:09,586 --> 00:28:12,026
Speaker 1: Sunday night. If I remember what what was the is

553
00:28:12,026 --> 00:28:13,946
Speaker 1: that the story or I haven't pretty much summed up right?

554
00:28:15,586 --> 00:28:16,346
Speaker 3: I mean it was it was.

555
00:28:16,786 --> 00:28:18,786
Speaker 4: It was me and Sean Cody and look at like,

556
00:28:18,826 --> 00:28:21,746
Speaker 4: I'm like, I'm not ashamed of the Letterman jacket. We

557
00:28:21,746 --> 00:28:25,746
Speaker 4: weah like we we were a connected team, like and

558
00:28:25,786 --> 00:28:27,706
Speaker 4: like those little things on teams are fun.

559
00:28:28,346 --> 00:28:29,866
Speaker 3: And me and Sean.

560
00:28:30,106 --> 00:28:31,986
Speaker 4: Were like, yeah, like this is like we felt like

561
00:28:32,386 --> 00:28:34,386
Speaker 4: a high school team, which is why we were so good.

562
00:28:34,386 --> 00:28:35,306
Speaker 3: I mean we were eleven and one.

563
00:28:35,346 --> 00:28:37,706
Speaker 4: We would to go play them and the funny part is,

564
00:28:37,986 --> 00:28:43,986
Speaker 4: I cannot believe we convinced sixty guys to buy I

565
00:28:44,026 --> 00:28:46,626
Speaker 4: went back and like everybody bought their own Letterman jacket

566
00:28:47,106 --> 00:28:49,386
Speaker 4: and they are sweet, and so we all wore them,

567
00:28:49,386 --> 00:28:51,186
Speaker 4: you know, because it's hot in Houston, so we need jackets.

568
00:28:51,186 --> 00:28:53,506
Speaker 4: To go down New England. We thought we were gonna

569
00:28:53,506 --> 00:28:57,866
Speaker 4: whoop their ass. They whooped our ass. But yeah, it

570
00:28:57,906 --> 00:29:00,346
Speaker 4: was People still bring it up to remind you what

571
00:29:00,426 --> 00:29:02,306
Speaker 4: actually happened was we went there eleven and one.

572
00:29:02,426 --> 00:29:03,706
Speaker 3: We lost.

573
00:29:04,106 --> 00:29:08,626
Speaker 4: Yeah, we came back and I think we had to

574
00:29:08,626 --> 00:29:10,906
Speaker 4: win two of the last four to have the number

575
00:29:10,946 --> 00:29:15,066
Speaker 4: one seed, and we went one in three down the stretch,

576
00:29:15,386 --> 00:29:18,826
Speaker 4: we lost the number one seed, had to go back

577
00:29:18,866 --> 00:29:21,866
Speaker 4: to New England in the playoffs and lost again. So

578
00:29:22,226 --> 00:29:25,506
Speaker 4: everyone talks about the Letterman jacket. But I'll uh, I

579
00:29:25,546 --> 00:29:29,146
Speaker 4: will say when I when I stopped playing, my wife

580
00:29:30,466 --> 00:29:32,746
Speaker 4: asked all my former teammates to like send little videos

581
00:29:33,586 --> 00:29:37,186
Speaker 4: in every single guy from Houston made a little video

582
00:29:37,226 --> 00:29:43,346
Speaker 4: and they like pulled out their like Letterman jacket jacket.

583
00:29:43,466 --> 00:29:46,746
Speaker 1: Yeah, so there's At the time, it was who are

584
00:29:46,786 --> 00:29:48,906
Speaker 1: these pun All the talk shows They're like no, it

585
00:29:49,026 --> 00:29:50,586
Speaker 1: was a cool memory. Something we all have together.

586
00:29:50,666 --> 00:29:52,906
Speaker 3: Oh exactly. It ended up being a cool memory there.

587
00:29:52,946 --> 00:29:54,186
Speaker 3: We still mess around.

588
00:29:53,986 --> 00:29:56,786
Speaker 1: About, joke about you guys were rolling and then you

589
00:29:56,826 --> 00:29:59,226
Speaker 1: signed with the Eagles in twenty thirteen. Was that Chip

590
00:29:59,306 --> 00:30:00,826
Speaker 1: Kelly Eagles? What team was that?

591
00:30:00,866 --> 00:30:02,306
Speaker 3: Those Chips and Chips first year?

592
00:30:03,106 --> 00:30:05,786
Speaker 4: So we did, you know, everybody knows history, I think, well,

593
00:30:05,786 --> 00:30:08,066
Speaker 4: if you don't know, Chip came for three years. The

594
00:30:08,106 --> 00:30:11,386
Speaker 4: first two years we won twenty games, and then the

595
00:30:11,426 --> 00:30:14,786
Speaker 4: third year so everything fell apart. And then I was

596
00:30:14,826 --> 00:30:18,626
Speaker 4: here with Doug Pearson's first year, and then I left,

597
00:30:18,666 --> 00:30:21,986
Speaker 4: and then Doug won the Super Bowl the year after, and.

598
00:30:21,986 --> 00:30:24,906
Speaker 1: You go to coach with play for our mutual friend

599
00:30:24,906 --> 00:30:27,346
Speaker 1: Sean McVay. I only say mutual friend. I'm at mcvay's

600
00:30:27,386 --> 00:30:29,306
Speaker 1: wedding and who's there across the table from me, mister

601
00:30:29,346 --> 00:30:32,586
Speaker 1: Connor borrowing And we were hanging there, and I remember

602
00:30:32,586 --> 00:30:34,386
Speaker 1: when you got to LA they were like this guy,

603
00:30:34,506 --> 00:30:36,106
Speaker 1: this guy's going to be a coach or a GM

604
00:30:36,226 --> 00:30:37,906
Speaker 1: or be the commissioner. I mean I remember Sean was

605
00:30:37,946 --> 00:30:39,666
Speaker 1: just blown away with the professional that you were.

606
00:30:40,026 --> 00:30:40,266
Speaker 3: Yeah.

607
00:30:40,386 --> 00:30:41,866
Speaker 4: Yeah, well, you know, I would have loved to win

608
00:30:41,866 --> 00:30:44,746
Speaker 4: a super Bowl with Eagles that year. But I am

609
00:30:44,866 --> 00:30:46,586
Speaker 4: so thankful that I got to go out there and

610
00:30:46,626 --> 00:30:50,266
Speaker 4: play with Sean, and with and Aaron and I mean Jered,

611
00:30:50,506 --> 00:30:52,026
Speaker 4: I mean so many good guys on the team.

612
00:30:52,106 --> 00:30:53,026
Speaker 3: This was unbelievable.

613
00:30:53,066 --> 00:30:56,506
Speaker 4: Got to know you out there, so you know, it

614
00:30:56,546 --> 00:30:58,386
Speaker 4: was really I mean, if you remember, we were a

615
00:30:58,386 --> 00:30:59,346
Speaker 4: really good team that year.

616
00:30:59,386 --> 00:31:03,906
Speaker 3: We lost in the playoffs. Falcon Pharaoh Cooper. It's up, Pharaoh,

617
00:31:04,186 --> 00:31:05,186
Speaker 3: you know, I hope you're doing well.

618
00:31:05,866 --> 00:31:08,346
Speaker 4: We had two turnovers on special teams and like we

619
00:31:08,426 --> 00:31:11,146
Speaker 4: defensively couldn't get the ball. It was just I still

620
00:31:11,626 --> 00:31:13,426
Speaker 4: I still say to people that was probably one of

621
00:31:13,426 --> 00:31:16,626
Speaker 4: the best team of my ten years. That was that

622
00:31:16,746 --> 00:31:19,426
Speaker 4: might have been the best team. That was the best team.

623
00:31:19,466 --> 00:31:20,226
Speaker 4: That was the best team.

624
00:31:20,266 --> 00:31:22,986
Speaker 1: I was on Saturday night playoff game. The Falcons had

625
00:31:23,066 --> 00:31:25,066
Speaker 1: just been to the Super Bowl, but they got back,

626
00:31:25,106 --> 00:31:27,346
Speaker 1: and it was that year that it was like everything

627
00:31:27,426 --> 00:31:28,866
Speaker 1: was clicking for the Rams. You're right, Pharaoh had a

628
00:31:28,906 --> 00:31:31,586
Speaker 1: couple mistakes on special teams and then I think Julio

629
00:31:31,706 --> 00:31:33,266
Speaker 1: killed you guys, like you just kept on making it

630
00:31:33,266 --> 00:31:35,026
Speaker 1: a bit, one big play after another. And that's a

631
00:31:35,066 --> 00:31:37,746
Speaker 1: team that no one remembers because the following year or

632
00:31:37,786 --> 00:31:39,186
Speaker 1: two years later they go to the super Bowl and

633
00:31:39,186 --> 00:31:41,106
Speaker 1: then they finally win one. But like that first year,

634
00:31:41,186 --> 00:31:42,946
Speaker 1: the first McVeigh year, you were there for that run.

635
00:31:43,186 --> 00:31:43,826
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we were.

636
00:31:43,906 --> 00:31:46,506
Speaker 4: I mean Todd had an insane year. Todd Gurley was

637
00:31:46,506 --> 00:31:49,866
Speaker 4: like unstoppable. Yeah, it was at the Coliseum Saturday night.

638
00:31:49,906 --> 00:31:52,906
Speaker 4: We lost the Falcons. Yeah, we defensively wouldn't good enough.

639
00:31:52,906 --> 00:31:54,986
Speaker 4: But I think I think the Rams went to the

640
00:31:55,026 --> 00:31:56,946
Speaker 4: Super Bowl the following year and lost.

641
00:31:57,346 --> 00:31:59,146
Speaker 3: Was it mcgas o year? And then the next year

642
00:31:59,226 --> 00:32:01,066
Speaker 3: they won the Super Bowl or two years.

643
00:32:00,946 --> 00:32:02,986
Speaker 1: Later lost it? They went they went back down and

644
00:32:02,986 --> 00:32:05,066
Speaker 1: then they came back. Yeah, they lost to the Packers

645
00:32:05,066 --> 00:32:06,546
Speaker 1: in a playoff game of COVID. They won. But you

646
00:32:06,546 --> 00:32:09,746
Speaker 1: were there for the start of it Giants for a year.

647
00:32:09,906 --> 00:32:12,906
Speaker 1: And then you're like, I'm done, right is that in

648
00:32:12,986 --> 00:32:15,466
Speaker 1: my career? And then it's what now?

649
00:32:16,226 --> 00:32:19,666
Speaker 3: Yeah? So then I sort of I always knew.

650
00:32:20,946 --> 00:32:23,426
Speaker 4: I wanted to be close to football, just like I

651
00:32:23,466 --> 00:32:25,226
Speaker 4: love Like I said, I mean, I love football, but.

652
00:32:25,146 --> 00:32:27,266
Speaker 3: I always know I want to do some other stuff.

653
00:32:27,306 --> 00:32:30,106
Speaker 4: And so how he you know, said hey when he

654
00:32:30,146 --> 00:32:31,906
Speaker 4: cut me, he said, hey, when you're done playing, come

655
00:32:31,946 --> 00:32:34,226
Speaker 4: work for me. And so I did that, and so

656
00:32:35,066 --> 00:32:37,786
Speaker 4: I started working full time with the Eagles in twenty twenty,

657
00:32:38,306 --> 00:32:39,706
Speaker 4: and then at the same time I went.

658
00:32:39,586 --> 00:32:41,706
Speaker 3: To Warton and got my MBA.

659
00:32:42,466 --> 00:32:42,986
Speaker 1: Is that right?

660
00:32:43,066 --> 00:32:43,306
Speaker 3: Yeah?

661
00:32:43,466 --> 00:32:46,666
Speaker 1: Yeah, during the COVID season, you're working for the Eagles

662
00:32:47,186 --> 00:32:49,546
Speaker 1: in the building or remotely in the building during.

663
00:32:49,306 --> 00:32:50,146
Speaker 3: The COVID season.

664
00:32:50,906 --> 00:32:54,346
Speaker 4: Congress, you know, credit to Roger Goodell and everybody that

665
00:32:54,386 --> 00:32:57,306
Speaker 4: we like, we did it during cold It was crazy.

666
00:32:57,986 --> 00:32:59,586
Speaker 4: But yeah, I was in the building in twenty twenty

667
00:32:59,786 --> 00:33:01,906
Speaker 4: and I started business school the year after in twenty

668
00:33:01,906 --> 00:33:02,586
Speaker 4: twenty one.

669
00:33:02,626 --> 00:33:05,226
Speaker 1: And you're going to classes physically at Wharton at University

670
00:33:05,226 --> 00:33:05,866
Speaker 1: of Pennsylvania.

671
00:33:06,066 --> 00:33:09,186
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah on the weekend, on the weekend.

672
00:33:09,266 --> 00:33:10,586
Speaker 1: What's the NBA? What was it for?

673
00:33:13,626 --> 00:33:15,266
Speaker 4: Just so I could figure out how to put out

674
00:33:15,306 --> 00:33:16,186
Speaker 4: a Christmas record?

675
00:33:17,186 --> 00:33:18,266
Speaker 3: Successful? You know.

676
00:33:18,906 --> 00:33:22,546
Speaker 1: So I just still imagine you were interacting with incredible

677
00:33:22,546 --> 00:33:25,226
Speaker 1: classmates and peers, but probably we're learning from just you know,

678
00:33:25,746 --> 00:33:26,706
Speaker 1: leaders of the industry.

679
00:33:26,826 --> 00:33:29,506
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was, It was. It was an unbelievable experience.

680
00:33:30,026 --> 00:33:32,066
Speaker 4: So many great professors, so many good friends.

681
00:33:32,106 --> 00:33:34,906
Speaker 3: Now, it was. It was probably the hardest thing I

682
00:33:34,906 --> 00:33:36,786
Speaker 3: ever did in my life. It was. It was harder

683
00:33:36,826 --> 00:33:39,586
Speaker 3: than my rookie year it was actually yeah it was.

684
00:33:39,746 --> 00:33:42,186
Speaker 1: I mean it was so what like group projects? What

685
00:33:42,226 --> 00:33:46,066
Speaker 1: are we talking about? You always hear about these players

686
00:33:46,106 --> 00:33:47,786
Speaker 1: going back to school, and I'm like, oh, but like

687
00:33:47,946 --> 00:33:50,026
Speaker 1: to go to Wharton. It's not like I'm getting my

688
00:33:50,066 --> 00:33:52,466
Speaker 1: degree on University of Phoenix dot com or something. This

689
00:33:52,546 --> 00:33:53,946
Speaker 1: is like the real deal. You went and got an

690
00:33:54,026 --> 00:33:54,866
Speaker 1: MBA from Wharton.

691
00:33:55,226 --> 00:34:00,866
Speaker 4: Yeah, like like tests, I mean like microeconomic tests and

692
00:34:00,986 --> 00:34:05,426
Speaker 4: like accounting tests and research papers and yeah, I mean

693
00:34:05,466 --> 00:34:08,906
Speaker 4: I think the group stuff. I thrived in the group settings,

694
00:34:08,946 --> 00:34:10,506
Speaker 4: like I know how to work with the team and

695
00:34:10,546 --> 00:34:12,866
Speaker 4: what my strengths are there, Like I think I think

696
00:34:12,906 --> 00:34:15,666
Speaker 4: I helped some of my other classmates and those sort

697
00:34:15,666 --> 00:34:19,226
Speaker 4: of environments. But no, it was like I don't know

698
00:34:19,226 --> 00:34:20,986
Speaker 4: how to do math. You know, you gotta I gotta

699
00:34:21,026 --> 00:34:24,266
Speaker 4: learn how to do math. So but happy I did.

700
00:34:25,466 --> 00:34:27,746
Speaker 4: I mean it's I got to get you know. Annie

701
00:34:27,746 --> 00:34:32,906
Speaker 4: Wilson was a marketing professor. I took consumer behavior class

702
00:34:33,266 --> 00:34:37,266
Speaker 4: and the rollout of this record, from the art work

703
00:34:37,386 --> 00:34:39,946
Speaker 4: to how we put it out. I just like copied

704
00:34:40,026 --> 00:34:43,146
Speaker 4: everything I learned from that class into into that record.

705
00:34:43,226 --> 00:34:46,106
Speaker 1: So, uh, just those lessons, What was it you need

706
00:34:46,106 --> 00:34:48,266
Speaker 1: to have? Because like the album cover if you're listening

707
00:34:48,266 --> 00:34:50,266
Speaker 1: and not like the album cover almost looks like a

708
00:34:50,266 --> 00:34:54,226
Speaker 1: Peanuts cover. It's got an animated three faces, it's my a,

709
00:34:54,266 --> 00:34:57,666
Speaker 1: Lota Kelsey and Lane Johnson. And then it's got a

710
00:34:57,746 --> 00:35:00,946
Speaker 1: Christmas tree. But there's more to just the album art.

711
00:35:01,106 --> 00:35:03,626
Speaker 1: There's a rollout and promotion And what did you learn

712
00:35:03,666 --> 00:35:04,946
Speaker 1: from Andy Wilson.

713
00:35:04,786 --> 00:35:07,026
Speaker 3: Annie Wilson, I mean, it's it's combination of things.

714
00:35:07,026 --> 00:35:08,466
Speaker 4: I mean, on the rollout you sort of which she

715
00:35:08,626 --> 00:35:10,546
Speaker 4: sort of taught us, was first sort of like the

716
00:35:10,906 --> 00:35:14,106
Speaker 4: slowly dripping out the content creating the story, the sort

717
00:35:14,106 --> 00:35:16,826
Speaker 4: of three tier pricing. People you know probably don't want

718
00:35:16,826 --> 00:35:19,266
Speaker 4: to hear about this, but how you anchor somebody interest, Yeah,

719
00:35:19,306 --> 00:35:24,306
Speaker 4: you anchor somebody on something. For example, we charged people

720
00:35:24,386 --> 00:35:26,946
Speaker 4: three things last year, and again this is all for charity,

721
00:35:27,026 --> 00:35:28,146
Speaker 4: so I felt like it was a good thing.

722
00:35:28,226 --> 00:35:29,026
Speaker 3: So for.

723
00:35:31,026 --> 00:35:34,866
Speaker 4: You could buy magnets of the guys, but we said

724
00:35:34,986 --> 00:35:37,226
Speaker 4: they cost twenty five dollars to buy.

725
00:35:37,466 --> 00:35:40,106
Speaker 3: It really cost us like a couple of dollars to make.

726
00:35:40,746 --> 00:35:42,746
Speaker 4: But in your mind you're like, oh, that's worth twenty

727
00:35:42,746 --> 00:35:47,066
Speaker 4: five dollars. Then you charge a record, you know, the

728
00:35:47,106 --> 00:35:50,746
Speaker 4: final record seventy five, and so people are, all right,

729
00:35:50,786 --> 00:35:51,706
Speaker 4: that's worth seventy five.

730
00:35:53,346 --> 00:35:54,626
Speaker 3: And then you put a bundle together.

731
00:35:54,666 --> 00:35:56,586
Speaker 4: People don't realize when they go to Costco and it's

732
00:35:56,626 --> 00:35:58,506
Speaker 4: all just bundling, and then you sort of like and

733
00:35:58,506 --> 00:36:00,626
Speaker 4: then we had that, we had something really expensive, and

734
00:36:00,626 --> 00:36:03,426
Speaker 4: then we sort of brought it together and people think like, oh,

735
00:36:03,426 --> 00:36:07,146
Speaker 4: I'm gonna buy that because I'm saving all this money together.

736
00:36:07,226 --> 00:36:08,226
Speaker 3: He just made it all up.

737
00:36:10,346 --> 00:36:12,226
Speaker 1: And it's all for charity. So it's great, But like

738
00:36:12,506 --> 00:36:14,906
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff where it's not just all right,

739
00:36:14,986 --> 00:36:17,506
Speaker 1: here's a vinyl record fifty dollars and here's a picture

740
00:36:17,546 --> 00:36:19,306
Speaker 1: of my alta on the cover. Boom go by it

741
00:36:19,346 --> 00:36:20,706
Speaker 1: like there's an actual process.

742
00:36:20,986 --> 00:36:22,946
Speaker 4: Well even even more so, what I was really getting

743
00:36:22,946 --> 00:36:24,746
Speaker 4: to is we studied this like cool framework.

744
00:36:24,746 --> 00:36:26,186
Speaker 3: If you go to some business.

745
00:36:25,866 --> 00:36:28,346
Speaker 4: Schools, they teach you like what cool is, and this

746
00:36:28,426 --> 00:36:32,026
Speaker 4: is sort of like being able to pull from, you know,

747
00:36:32,106 --> 00:36:36,546
Speaker 4: the most famous iconic record cover but not infringe on

748
00:36:36,586 --> 00:36:42,106
Speaker 4: any of sort of their ip is like if people

749
00:36:42,146 --> 00:36:45,386
Speaker 4: ever study Supreme, like that's what Supreme did. They stole

750
00:36:45,506 --> 00:36:48,546
Speaker 4: all of that from now we wouldn't say stole.

751
00:36:48,306 --> 00:36:49,946
Speaker 1: But still inspiration.

752
00:36:51,026 --> 00:36:52,186
Speaker 3: So like This was all.

753
00:36:52,106 --> 00:36:56,426
Speaker 4: Like inspired by the Charlie Brown Christmas, which I would

754
00:36:56,466 --> 00:36:58,666
Speaker 4: have never thought of unless I took that class.

755
00:36:58,906 --> 00:37:04,066
Speaker 1: So okay, Kelsey Lane and mylotta you said that Kelsey

756
00:37:04,106 --> 00:37:07,226
Speaker 1: performs his own song. It's called He Pended Himself. It's

757
00:37:07,226 --> 00:37:08,106
Speaker 1: called Santa's Night.

758
00:37:08,386 --> 00:37:08,826
Speaker 3: Did you.

759
00:37:10,226 --> 00:37:12,106
Speaker 1: Because it's not a goof This is not an Adam

760
00:37:12,146 --> 00:37:16,426
Speaker 1: Sandler doing like goofy tunes. This is like actual Christmas carols.

761
00:37:16,426 --> 00:37:18,386
Speaker 1: And the guy's voices sound wonderful. And I saw the

762
00:37:18,466 --> 00:37:22,026
Speaker 1: Jordan Davis clip. He sounds like, yeah, you know, it's beautiful,

763
00:37:22,106 --> 00:37:25,186
Speaker 1: like it's Sunday choir. Did you know these guys could sing?

764
00:37:25,226 --> 00:37:26,186
Speaker 1: How did it come about?

765
00:37:26,506 --> 00:37:26,906
Speaker 3: I knew.

766
00:37:27,106 --> 00:37:31,626
Speaker 4: I knew Jason could sing. I knew Jason, you know.

767
00:37:32,026 --> 00:37:33,586
Speaker 4: I just I didn't know he would write a song.

768
00:37:34,546 --> 00:37:36,586
Speaker 4: I knew Jordan could sing because we're on the Mass singer.

769
00:37:36,906 --> 00:37:40,826
Speaker 4: I knew Lane. Lane is like a freakly talented person.

770
00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:44,026
Speaker 1: Just like in all ever. I think Alane, he's in

771
00:37:44,066 --> 00:37:46,666
Speaker 1: a cabin somewhere in Oklahoma and like that's like and

772
00:37:46,706 --> 00:37:48,306
Speaker 1: then he comes out and he can do just anything

773
00:37:48,346 --> 00:37:50,106
Speaker 1: he needs to do in that moment, like.

774
00:37:50,146 --> 00:37:54,786
Speaker 4: We were, he can like like this he can like

775
00:37:54,826 --> 00:37:57,506
Speaker 4: do an impersonation of anybody. He can like look at

776
00:37:57,506 --> 00:38:00,186
Speaker 4: someone and do this like crazy like look alike. He

777
00:38:00,386 --> 00:38:04,146
Speaker 4: just like he'll pull things from movies from fifteen years ago.

778
00:38:04,506 --> 00:38:08,026
Speaker 4: So like that sort of genius. But I knew, I

779
00:38:08,106 --> 00:38:10,706
Speaker 4: knew they all could sing. I knew Jordan Davis could

780
00:38:10,706 --> 00:38:12,586
Speaker 4: sing just from the draft like in my role. Now

781
00:38:12,626 --> 00:38:15,226
Speaker 4: I'm involved in sort of the draft process, and like

782
00:38:15,266 --> 00:38:17,586
Speaker 4: I knew the bat music background with him, and this

783
00:38:17,706 --> 00:38:19,586
Speaker 4: year we sort of wind up to sort of open

784
00:38:19,586 --> 00:38:22,146
Speaker 4: it up and get more people involved. And it was

785
00:38:22,186 --> 00:38:24,226
Speaker 4: really cool to have him involved in And you heard

786
00:38:24,226 --> 00:38:25,986
Speaker 4: his voice, it's it's unbelievable.

787
00:38:26,346 --> 00:38:27,986
Speaker 1: Well let's stop you right there, because while we have

788
00:38:28,106 --> 00:38:31,626
Speaker 1: you on the podcast, Connor, here is Jordan Davis's version

789
00:38:32,106 --> 00:38:34,786
Speaker 1: of have yourself a merry little Christmas.

790
00:38:40,346 --> 00:38:47,026
Speaker 5: Here we are as a golden dame, happy golden dame.

791
00:38:48,546 --> 00:38:49,626
Speaker 5: Oh your.

792
00:38:53,426 --> 00:39:01,146
Speaker 1: Faith friends who are near to us, never near to us,

793
00:39:01,706 --> 00:39:11,346
Speaker 1: once small through the years, we all woll to get.

794
00:39:13,346 --> 00:39:14,946
Speaker 3: If the face.

795
00:39:20,746 --> 00:39:39,266
Speaker 5: Shine and feel self a very little Christmases.

796
00:39:44,146 --> 00:39:46,586
Speaker 1: I see Jordan Davis three hundred and forty pounds player,

797
00:39:46,946 --> 00:39:49,066
Speaker 1: How did you know he had that voice?

798
00:39:49,906 --> 00:39:51,986
Speaker 4: Just interviewing them and reading up on them and the

799
00:39:51,986 --> 00:39:52,706
Speaker 4: whole process.

800
00:39:52,746 --> 00:39:53,426
Speaker 3: I mean, we get to.

801
00:39:53,426 --> 00:39:57,186
Speaker 4: Know you know, these guys really really well, and I think,

802
00:39:57,666 --> 00:40:01,106
Speaker 4: you know, organizationally not to get in my role too much,

803
00:40:01,186 --> 00:40:05,426
Speaker 4: but we believe the football season is long and hard.

804
00:40:06,546 --> 00:40:11,146
Speaker 4: We want to embrace these guys other interests, right, because

805
00:40:12,266 --> 00:40:15,186
Speaker 4: think of like the great athletes you've been around, they

806
00:40:15,266 --> 00:40:19,186
Speaker 4: usually have something else that they're interested in. You know,

807
00:40:19,226 --> 00:40:22,226
Speaker 4: obviously sports is the main thing, but they have something

808
00:40:22,306 --> 00:40:26,386
Speaker 4: some sort of creative outlet or you know, s an

809
00:40:26,386 --> 00:40:29,546
Speaker 4: outlet from football that they go to and sort of

810
00:40:29,546 --> 00:40:33,226
Speaker 4: brings them joy and confidence. And so we try to

811
00:40:33,786 --> 00:40:35,786
Speaker 4: you know, encourage the guys to lean in on that

812
00:40:35,826 --> 00:40:37,706
Speaker 4: a little bit. And like getting Jordan to lead in

813
00:40:37,706 --> 00:40:39,706
Speaker 4: on is sort of you know, what he likes to

814
00:40:39,706 --> 00:40:40,506
Speaker 4: do around music.

815
00:40:41,346 --> 00:40:43,226
Speaker 3: In this way with this record was a really really

816
00:40:43,266 --> 00:40:44,066
Speaker 3: good opportunity.

817
00:40:45,466 --> 00:40:47,466
Speaker 1: What is the role you do now because you go

818
00:40:47,506 --> 00:40:49,946
Speaker 1: from as system to the general manager to more of

819
00:40:49,986 --> 00:40:52,506
Speaker 1: a I must think of it. And there's so many

820
00:40:52,546 --> 00:40:56,426
Speaker 1: great guys in your role around the league. But it's

821
00:40:56,426 --> 00:40:58,866
Speaker 1: not like a camp counselor of sorts. But you're the

822
00:40:58,866 --> 00:41:01,666
Speaker 1: mentor in the building who I played the game, but

823
00:41:01,706 --> 00:41:05,386
Speaker 1: I can also be you know, this your sounding board,

824
00:41:05,386 --> 00:41:07,626
Speaker 1: and I'm also still deployed by the team. It's kind

825
00:41:07,626 --> 00:41:08,666
Speaker 1: of this weird bridge, right.

826
00:41:08,986 --> 00:41:12,986
Speaker 4: Well, so you're thinking I'm in a player engagement role

827
00:41:12,146 --> 00:41:15,506
Speaker 4: with different role, but but I work hand in hand

828
00:41:15,506 --> 00:41:18,706
Speaker 4: with player engagement and those people in those roles are awesome.

829
00:41:18,706 --> 00:41:20,306
Speaker 3: They do exactly what you do.

830
00:41:20,586 --> 00:41:23,506
Speaker 4: But you what you said, I you know, I'm a player,

831
00:41:23,506 --> 00:41:25,826
Speaker 4: a deveoloument, which is something how we started six.

832
00:41:25,826 --> 00:41:27,626
Speaker 1: Or so, So what is player development? Because I don't

833
00:41:27,626 --> 00:41:28,386
Speaker 1: even know that title.

834
00:41:28,466 --> 00:41:33,666
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like a secret in Philadelphia. Yeah, so I

835
00:41:33,706 --> 00:41:35,626
Speaker 4: can't give you all the deed, I can't give you

836
00:41:35,906 --> 00:41:36,626
Speaker 4: everything we do.

837
00:41:36,666 --> 00:41:39,306
Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean we're.

838
00:41:40,986 --> 00:41:45,626
Speaker 4: I'm focused my focus in collaboration with the coaches, the

839
00:41:45,666 --> 00:41:49,946
Speaker 4: performance staff, how he everyone is I would say, sort

840
00:41:49,946 --> 00:41:53,866
Speaker 4: of the bottom part of our roster. Whereas if you look,

841
00:41:53,986 --> 00:41:59,026
Speaker 4: you know, in the NFL, everybody is so focused.

842
00:41:58,746 --> 00:42:00,146
Speaker 3: On the guys that are playing.

843
00:42:01,066 --> 00:42:05,106
Speaker 4: And we are here obviously of course, but sort of

844
00:42:05,186 --> 00:42:07,946
Speaker 4: me and a group of people, well, we're sort of

845
00:42:08,746 --> 00:42:10,426
Speaker 4: trying to sort of build a little bit from the

846
00:42:10,466 --> 00:42:13,146
Speaker 4: bottom up and make sure those guys that aren't playing

847
00:42:13,146 --> 00:42:17,386
Speaker 4: are getting the same attention. Coaching feedback support that we give,

848
00:42:17,546 --> 00:42:19,746
Speaker 4: you know, the forty five guys that are playing on Sunday,

849
00:42:19,786 --> 00:42:23,226
Speaker 4: so you know when they're ready, when their opportunity comes,

850
00:42:23,466 --> 00:42:25,506
Speaker 4: you know they're ready to step in and play and

851
00:42:25,546 --> 00:42:26,866
Speaker 4: take advantage of the opportunity.

852
00:42:27,986 --> 00:42:30,106
Speaker 1: You've been there since twenty twenty, so you were there

853
00:42:30,106 --> 00:42:33,586
Speaker 1: for the entire Jalen Hurts rise to start them. You're

854
00:42:33,626 --> 00:42:36,066
Speaker 1: there every day with him. He doesn't give much to

855
00:42:36,106 --> 00:42:37,986
Speaker 1: the media. He doesn't really do the look at me,

856
00:42:38,066 --> 00:42:40,706
Speaker 1: look at me, Instagram Live, Facebook live, all that stuff.

857
00:42:41,746 --> 00:42:43,506
Speaker 1: What kind of guy is Jalen Hurts And what have

858
00:42:43,546 --> 00:42:45,346
Speaker 1: you seen as far as leadership qualities go.

859
00:42:45,586 --> 00:42:47,866
Speaker 3: Well, Jalen's obviously awesome.

860
00:42:47,946 --> 00:42:51,106
Speaker 4: I think Jalen is a perfect example of what we

861
00:42:51,306 --> 00:42:56,066
Speaker 4: try to do, what you want everybody to do, you know,

862
00:42:56,506 --> 00:43:02,666
Speaker 4: and that's sort of understanding sort of small gradual improvements.

863
00:43:02,826 --> 00:43:05,306
Speaker 4: People ask me about Jalen, I say, it's just like

864
00:43:05,986 --> 00:43:10,706
Speaker 4: he is an example of compound interest. Like I was

865
00:43:10,746 --> 00:43:13,346
Speaker 4: here with him for two years and the guy and

866
00:43:13,706 --> 00:43:15,346
Speaker 4: nothing me. I mean, he just had it, like he

867
00:43:15,466 --> 00:43:19,706
Speaker 4: was just so focused that every week he got a

868
00:43:19,706 --> 00:43:20,386
Speaker 4: little bit better.

869
00:43:20,546 --> 00:43:22,666
Speaker 3: Every month, every month he's been here, he's.

870
00:43:22,506 --> 00:43:24,266
Speaker 4: Got a little bit better and sort of you saw

871
00:43:24,426 --> 00:43:26,706
Speaker 4: last year it just sort of it was going, it

872
00:43:26,746 --> 00:43:28,626
Speaker 4: was going, and then it went like this, and like

873
00:43:28,666 --> 00:43:31,066
Speaker 4: that's what happens if you can sort of have sort

874
00:43:31,066 --> 00:43:34,146
Speaker 4: of this short term focus. I'm getting just a little

875
00:43:34,146 --> 00:43:37,626
Speaker 4: bit better every day every week while having sort of

876
00:43:37,666 --> 00:43:39,866
Speaker 4: a long term vision of where you want to go

877
00:43:40,506 --> 00:43:43,586
Speaker 4: and stick to it. You know, anybody you know can

878
00:43:43,626 --> 00:43:46,706
Speaker 4: really it'll pay off after, you know, after some time.

879
00:43:47,066 --> 00:43:48,466
Speaker 3: And he's a great example of that.

880
00:43:49,466 --> 00:43:51,186
Speaker 1: Last year you guys went to the Super Bowl, you

881
00:43:51,226 --> 00:43:53,986
Speaker 1: come up just short. This year you start off red hot.

882
00:43:54,026 --> 00:43:56,946
Speaker 1: We're recording this after the San Francisco game. What makes

883
00:43:56,946 --> 00:43:59,786
Speaker 1: this team different from last year's team, because I know

884
00:43:59,826 --> 00:44:01,146
Speaker 1: everyone just looks at it and it's like, oh, well

885
00:44:01,186 --> 00:44:03,946
Speaker 1: the Eagles, same squad. But every team we know in

886
00:44:03,986 --> 00:44:06,066
Speaker 1: every locker room is different year to year. What is

887
00:44:06,186 --> 00:44:08,746
Speaker 1: kind of the defining quality of this year's Well.

888
00:44:08,626 --> 00:44:10,466
Speaker 4: I think we're just getting into it, you know what

889
00:44:10,506 --> 00:44:13,746
Speaker 4: I mean, I think you said it, and there's a

890
00:44:13,746 --> 00:44:16,346
Speaker 4: lot of different players, different people. I mean, the cores,

891
00:44:16,426 --> 00:44:19,026
Speaker 4: the core is still here, but I mean this is

892
00:44:19,066 --> 00:44:21,306
Speaker 4: the part of the season when you when you find

893
00:44:21,346 --> 00:44:25,906
Speaker 4: out so you know, best record in football right now.

894
00:44:26,506 --> 00:44:29,546
Speaker 4: But now now it's like, you know, the season starts here,

895
00:44:29,626 --> 00:44:32,146
Speaker 4: so we're excited. We got Dallas this weekend.

896
00:44:32,746 --> 00:44:36,066
Speaker 1: One more question about the album before we let you go.

897
00:44:37,186 --> 00:44:42,426
Speaker 1: The first album included a dramatic reciting of a Night

898
00:44:42,466 --> 00:44:46,626
Speaker 1: before Christmas by Meryl Reese, who's the voice, who is

899
00:44:46,666 --> 00:44:48,786
Speaker 1: the voice of the Raid of the Eagles. And then

900
00:44:48,826 --> 00:44:52,186
Speaker 1: he had Zach Miller of Doctor Dog on piano and

901
00:44:52,586 --> 00:44:56,266
Speaker 1: that came out last year. This year the twenty twenty

902
00:44:56,306 --> 00:44:58,906
Speaker 1: three album, and like, the timing couldn't be more I

903
00:44:58,906 --> 00:45:02,946
Speaker 1: would almost say eerie Jason and Travis Kelcey covering The

904
00:45:03,026 --> 00:45:05,946
Speaker 1: Pogue's fairy Tale of New York. Of course, the Pogues

905
00:45:06,026 --> 00:45:10,306
Speaker 1: leads singer, Shane McGowan just passed away last week. Kind

906
00:45:10,306 --> 00:45:12,986
Speaker 1: of eerie, almost poetic, and yet we've got Jason and

907
00:45:13,066 --> 00:45:16,306
Speaker 1: Travis singing a poge song on an album that's coming

908
00:45:16,306 --> 00:45:18,346
Speaker 1: out the same week that the lead singer just passed away.

909
00:45:18,586 --> 00:45:25,106
Speaker 4: It was eerie, and you know, it was really it

910
00:45:25,146 --> 00:45:27,066
Speaker 4: was really nice that Shane.

911
00:45:27,706 --> 00:45:28,906
Speaker 3: This was crazy in here.

912
00:45:29,106 --> 00:45:34,346
Speaker 4: His last public tweet was about the cup you know,

913
00:45:34,386 --> 00:45:38,546
Speaker 4: which the rewrite that Shane and Kelsey or Kelsey Jason

914
00:45:38,586 --> 00:45:42,186
Speaker 4: and Travis did about a sort of iconic Christmas song

915
00:45:42,266 --> 00:45:47,026
Speaker 4: and him sort of like supporting it, which was so cool.

916
00:45:47,266 --> 00:45:50,306
Speaker 4: The song is it's like on top of a bunch

917
00:45:50,306 --> 00:45:51,546
Speaker 4: of different charts right now.

918
00:45:51,586 --> 00:45:53,186
Speaker 3: People are loving it.

919
00:45:53,266 --> 00:45:55,946
Speaker 4: So yeah, it was it was really cool to get

920
00:45:55,986 --> 00:45:58,346
Speaker 4: his approval on that and then.

921
00:45:58,266 --> 00:46:01,266
Speaker 3: Sort of hear that he liked it before he passed.

922
00:46:01,266 --> 00:46:03,906
Speaker 4: But I think obviously Shane's a legend, and so to

923
00:46:04,026 --> 00:46:06,146
Speaker 4: get that from him was incredible. And then I have

924
00:46:06,226 --> 00:46:09,946
Speaker 4: to say a you know, on the record, there's uh,

925
00:46:10,986 --> 00:46:12,906
Speaker 4: you know, we have the Dradel song coming out.

926
00:46:12,866 --> 00:46:14,386
Speaker 1: Talk about it, We talk about it. I think it's

927
00:46:14,466 --> 00:46:16,626
Speaker 1: important from my from my fellow Jewish listeners.

928
00:46:16,666 --> 00:46:19,466
Speaker 3: Howie Roseman is on the song.

929
00:46:19,666 --> 00:46:22,666
Speaker 1: And this is Dredl Dreidl dred It's the.

930
00:46:22,746 --> 00:46:25,506
Speaker 3: Best music you've ever heard of the Dradel song.

931
00:46:25,706 --> 00:46:26,506
Speaker 1: Who performed it?

932
00:46:27,466 --> 00:46:29,346
Speaker 3: I mean, there's too many musicians to name it.

933
00:46:29,906 --> 00:46:32,026
Speaker 1: Really, it's just like a live aid thing, Like everyone

934
00:46:32,106 --> 00:46:33,226
Speaker 1: got together and performed on this.

935
00:46:33,466 --> 00:46:35,866
Speaker 3: Every song is like live Aid. There's a whole band

936
00:46:35,986 --> 00:46:40,586
Speaker 3: for every song. But yeah, the Dreidl is like is Jason,

937
00:46:40,826 --> 00:46:43,186
Speaker 3: Jordan Lane and Howie doing gang.

938
00:46:43,026 --> 00:46:44,786
Speaker 1: Vocals on the whole thing, get out of here. You

939
00:46:44,826 --> 00:46:47,826
Speaker 1: could hear how he's voice, and then we have.

940
00:46:48,466 --> 00:46:52,546
Speaker 3: Little Dicky does a little intro. It comes out Dave Bird.

941
00:46:52,746 --> 00:46:55,746
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, it comes out on Thursday or Wednesday night,

942
00:46:55,866 --> 00:46:57,746
Speaker 4: first night of Hanaka. I believe it was Thursday night,

943
00:46:58,466 --> 00:47:02,106
Speaker 4: Happy earl Hanukah and uh so that's a highlight coming up.

944
00:47:02,506 --> 00:47:04,026
Speaker 1: So it is a little Dickie rapping on it.

945
00:47:04,626 --> 00:47:07,226
Speaker 4: He just does like an intro, but he does full intro.

946
00:47:08,426 --> 00:47:10,146
Speaker 4: If you want to hear the full intro, you gotta

947
00:47:10,146 --> 00:47:11,786
Speaker 4: buy the vinyl. There's a longer.

948
00:47:11,586 --> 00:47:14,426
Speaker 1: Extended because I saw on Spotify the song is out.

949
00:47:14,466 --> 00:47:16,026
Speaker 1: It's like a little snippet of it, but I couldn't

950
00:47:16,066 --> 00:47:17,666
Speaker 1: hear how he's voice on it. I got to download

951
00:47:17,666 --> 00:47:18,826
Speaker 1: the whole big or buy the whole album.

952
00:47:18,946 --> 00:47:20,706
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, you got to buy the vinyl so you

953
00:47:20,746 --> 00:47:23,586
Speaker 4: hear the whole thing, or this the little pick. He'll

954
00:47:23,626 --> 00:47:25,906
Speaker 4: be a little bit on the digital release on Hanikah.

955
00:47:26,426 --> 00:47:29,426
Speaker 4: So that's a cool part. The Santa's Night thing. Everybody,

956
00:47:29,786 --> 00:47:30,546
Speaker 4: it's unbelievable.

957
00:47:31,146 --> 00:47:33,186
Speaker 1: So he pens he pins a Christmas Carol.

958
00:47:33,186 --> 00:47:36,826
Speaker 4: I mean, guy, like the season ends right and it's

959
00:47:36,906 --> 00:47:39,226
Speaker 4: like cold and philler low siuper Bowl and he tells

960
00:47:39,266 --> 00:47:41,986
Speaker 4: the story and he's sitting there with his youngest and

961
00:47:42,026 --> 00:47:44,866
Speaker 4: he can't get her to stop crying. And then he

962
00:47:44,946 --> 00:47:48,066
Speaker 4: starts thinking about Sannah, like, man, what suck to be

963
00:47:48,186 --> 00:47:52,106
Speaker 4: Santa on Christmas Night? Like I gotta deliver a presence

964
00:47:52,146 --> 00:47:54,866
Speaker 4: to everybody in one night, Like that's gotta be That's

965
00:47:54,946 --> 00:47:57,906
Speaker 4: no fun. And so he writes this song about how

966
00:47:58,306 --> 00:48:01,586
Speaker 4: it is to be Santa on Christmas Night, but but

967
00:48:02,466 --> 00:48:05,106
Speaker 4: correlates it to like being a football player and a

968
00:48:05,226 --> 00:48:08,106
Speaker 4: parent and saying it's all worth it in the end

969
00:48:08,266 --> 00:48:09,266
Speaker 4: because of the joy.

970
00:48:09,626 --> 00:48:13,026
Speaker 1: It's like this, it's beautiful, and it is beautiful about

971
00:48:13,026 --> 00:48:16,226
Speaker 1: the sacrifice that you guys make, you know, not only

972
00:48:16,306 --> 00:48:18,706
Speaker 1: in your careers, but like at the house and not

973
00:48:18,866 --> 00:48:20,666
Speaker 1: being around for a lot of key moments. And I'm

974
00:48:20,706 --> 00:48:23,426
Speaker 1: sure you've missed a million key moments, but you're doing

975
00:48:23,466 --> 00:48:24,306
Speaker 1: it for the greater cause.

976
00:48:24,346 --> 00:48:25,546
Speaker 3: Yeah, And he just for me.

977
00:48:26,346 --> 00:48:29,466
Speaker 4: It was probably in I don't know, may I'm in

978
00:48:29,506 --> 00:48:31,426
Speaker 4: the locker room in the summer. He's here working out

979
00:48:31,466 --> 00:48:34,386
Speaker 4: in the morning. He's like, hey, Connor, I wrote a poem,

980
00:48:34,906 --> 00:48:36,466
Speaker 4: like maybe maybe it's a.

981
00:48:36,506 --> 00:48:39,306
Speaker 3: Song, but probably not. And I'm like, all right, well,

982
00:48:39,386 --> 00:48:40,426
Speaker 3: let me, let me, let me hear it.

983
00:48:40,786 --> 00:48:42,426
Speaker 4: And he's literally it's just me and him sit in

984
00:48:42,466 --> 00:48:45,346
Speaker 4: the locker room and he's like hitting up a box

985
00:48:45,706 --> 00:48:48,346
Speaker 4: like to give it like the melody, and he and

986
00:48:48,426 --> 00:48:50,786
Speaker 4: he just sort of says it and sings it, and

987
00:48:50,866 --> 00:48:51,186
Speaker 4: I'm and.

988
00:48:51,306 --> 00:48:54,426
Speaker 3: I was like, are you kidding me? Dude?

989
00:48:54,506 --> 00:48:55,786
Speaker 1: You just it was beautiful.

990
00:48:55,866 --> 00:48:58,626
Speaker 3: Yeah, I knew right away. I was like, did you

991
00:48:58,746 --> 00:49:00,826
Speaker 3: just wrote like a beautiful Christmas song? I don't know

992
00:49:00,866 --> 00:49:04,106
Speaker 3: how you did it, but that's amazing. So people can

993
00:49:04,146 --> 00:49:06,506
Speaker 3: hear it now. Santa's Night, Sam.

994
00:49:06,546 --> 00:49:09,066
Speaker 1: This Night written and performed by Jason Kelsey.

995
00:49:09,226 --> 00:49:10,706
Speaker 3: Yep. Yeah, very cool.

996
00:49:11,906 --> 00:49:14,306
Speaker 1: Connor, before we let you go, tell us more about Vera,

997
00:49:14,546 --> 00:49:17,666
Speaker 1: Why record label, and the production work that you're doing,

998
00:49:17,666 --> 00:49:19,066
Speaker 1: because I feel like this is just the start.

999
00:49:19,626 --> 00:49:19,826
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1000
00:49:19,946 --> 00:49:22,626
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's it's sort of again, you know, I don't

1001
00:49:22,626 --> 00:49:24,386
Speaker 4: really know what I'm doing, just trying to figure it out.

1002
00:49:25,746 --> 00:49:28,026
Speaker 1: That's very humble when you've got the Wharton NBA, You've

1003
00:49:28,026 --> 00:49:30,226
Speaker 1: got two hit albums like you did it all right?

1004
00:49:30,346 --> 00:49:32,546
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, I just I know that I got a

1005
00:49:32,586 --> 00:49:33,106
Speaker 3: lot to learn.

1006
00:49:33,626 --> 00:49:36,786
Speaker 4: But yeah, so so you know, we had to own

1007
00:49:36,866 --> 00:49:40,026
Speaker 4: the the you had to have a company, and so

1008
00:49:40,346 --> 00:49:42,586
Speaker 4: we started a company, me and Kelsey Vera is my

1009
00:49:42,706 --> 00:49:44,826
Speaker 4: daughter's name, Kelsey's first daughter's.

1010
00:49:44,546 --> 00:49:45,426
Speaker 3: Name, Wyatt so Vera.

1011
00:49:45,506 --> 00:49:47,266
Speaker 1: Why that's awesome.

1012
00:49:47,746 --> 00:49:50,666
Speaker 4: But yeah, we're working on this record, We're working on

1013
00:49:51,026 --> 00:49:53,146
Speaker 4: a show, We're working on a movie. So there's there's

1014
00:49:53,226 --> 00:49:54,906
Speaker 4: there's a lot sort of in the pipeline right now

1015
00:49:54,986 --> 00:49:57,186
Speaker 4: that I'm really excited about. We'll talk about it off

1016
00:49:57,346 --> 00:49:58,226
Speaker 4: off air because you've may.

1017
00:49:58,186 --> 00:50:02,026
Speaker 1: Be able to h I definitely can help guys, everyone

1018
00:50:02,066 --> 00:50:05,706
Speaker 1: who wants to get this A Philly Special Christmas Special

1019
00:50:05,866 --> 00:50:10,546
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. The Philly Special Christmas Team last year

1020
00:50:10,826 --> 00:50:16,626
Speaker 1: raised one point two five million dollars for local Philadelphia charities. Connor,

1021
00:50:16,666 --> 00:50:19,266
Speaker 1: I think it's awesome work. But I also think you're

1022
00:50:19,266 --> 00:50:21,386
Speaker 1: an awesome guy and a great representative of the NFL

1023
00:50:21,626 --> 00:50:25,386
Speaker 1: and for the holidays, of course, but the fact that

1024
00:50:25,466 --> 00:50:27,746
Speaker 1: you're always working and trying to expand things and give

1025
00:50:27,826 --> 00:50:31,666
Speaker 1: players a bigger opportunity to show their talents and be

1026
00:50:31,706 --> 00:50:33,706
Speaker 1: able to provide for charities is just cool stuff.

1027
00:50:33,986 --> 00:50:34,186
Speaker 3: Peter.

1028
00:50:34,266 --> 00:50:37,706
Speaker 4: I appreciate that you do an awesome job, and you know,

1029
00:50:37,786 --> 00:50:39,426
Speaker 4: I think you sort of hit it like that's for me.

1030
00:50:39,626 --> 00:50:42,186
Speaker 3: I think I've been my whole ten years I played.

1031
00:50:42,266 --> 00:50:47,346
Speaker 4: I just appreciated how awesome the people in the NFL are.

1032
00:50:48,186 --> 00:50:50,906
Speaker 4: And you know, Jason has been one person I worked

1033
00:50:50,906 --> 00:50:53,106
Speaker 4: with a lot, but it's it's laying to it's Jordan's,

1034
00:50:53,146 --> 00:50:56,026
Speaker 4: it's other people and just trying to help them sort

1035
00:50:56,066 --> 00:50:59,586
Speaker 4: of like do sort of the creative things they have

1036
00:50:59,746 --> 00:51:03,306
Speaker 4: in their mind, like bring them to fruition. So it's

1037
00:51:03,546 --> 00:51:04,466
Speaker 4: been it's been fun for.

1038
00:51:04,506 --> 00:51:05,226
Speaker 3: Me to try to do that.

1039
00:51:06,466 --> 00:51:08,826
Speaker 1: Let's sell a lot of these albums, let's help charities.

1040
00:51:08,906 --> 00:51:12,266
Speaker 1: And I look it, I'm as I'm not biased here,

1041
00:51:12,346 --> 00:51:14,426
Speaker 1: but if the Drader song becomes the hottest single in

1042
00:51:14,506 --> 00:51:16,426
Speaker 1: the country, I'm not gonna be angry about this.

1043
00:51:17,546 --> 00:51:20,946
Speaker 3: It's good. Listen. I did a lot of research listening

1044
00:51:20,986 --> 00:51:23,346
Speaker 3: to a lot of Drado songs. Yeah, not a lot

1045
00:51:23,386 --> 00:51:26,746
Speaker 3: of great trail songs sort of like this you call

1046
00:51:26,866 --> 00:51:28,066
Speaker 3: it in a little bit for kids.

1047
00:51:28,386 --> 00:51:30,746
Speaker 4: This one, Like the music is just like sort of

1048
00:51:30,826 --> 00:51:32,666
Speaker 4: Bo Diddley sort of thing here that we got going

1049
00:51:32,706 --> 00:51:34,826
Speaker 4: on is fun, like you want to dance when you

1050
00:51:34,946 --> 00:51:35,106
Speaker 4: hear it?

1051
00:51:35,226 --> 00:51:36,266
Speaker 3: Like it? It is awesome.

1052
00:51:37,066 --> 00:51:39,466
Speaker 1: I can't wait, all right, Connor Barrowing, thanks for joining

1053
00:51:39,506 --> 00:51:49,626
Speaker 1: the podcast. Man, This is awesome. Thanks peer, Connor Barwin

1054
00:51:49,786 --> 00:51:52,586
Speaker 1: was great. Aaron, You've got a musical background. That's pretty cool.

1055
00:51:52,866 --> 00:51:57,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, I also have a behavioral econ background. And so

1056
00:51:57,586 --> 00:52:00,146
Speaker 2: him talking about like price anchoring and all that, I

1057
00:52:00,866 --> 00:52:01,666
Speaker 2: get off on all of that.

1058
00:52:01,786 --> 00:52:02,426
Speaker 1: I love that.

1059
00:52:02,586 --> 00:52:04,746
Speaker 2: That is, as soon as he said anchoring, I was like,

1060
00:52:04,906 --> 00:52:07,546
Speaker 2: all right, I'm in on this. He's a Wharton grad.

1061
00:52:07,626 --> 00:52:10,026
Speaker 1: Yeah, we got it. He talks about the professor and

1062
00:52:10,066 --> 00:52:12,266
Speaker 1: her name is obviously Annie Wilson. We find out everyards.

1063
00:52:12,306 --> 00:52:15,186
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh Andy Wilson, Like no, no, no, Annie Wilson.

1064
00:52:16,426 --> 00:52:17,946
Speaker 1: But like he kind of buried that in the day

1065
00:52:17,986 --> 00:52:19,426
Speaker 1: that like, oh, I went to Wharton and got it.

1066
00:52:19,506 --> 00:52:21,386
Speaker 1: I mean for the listeners if you don't know, it's

1067
00:52:21,386 --> 00:52:23,906
Speaker 1: the number one business school in the world. And I'm

1068
00:52:23,906 --> 00:52:26,586
Speaker 1: sure he've roben elbows with hedge fund managers and people

1069
00:52:26,626 --> 00:52:32,706
Speaker 1: who are running Spotify or whatever else. So I like diverse, interesting,

1070
00:52:33,746 --> 00:52:38,626
Speaker 1: curious guests. And I think Connor's story is so unique

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Speaker 1: and is different, and the fact that he's now still

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Speaker 1: almost sounds like a shady job, like he didn't want

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Speaker 1: to explain what he does.

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Speaker 2: He was very coy.

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Speaker 1: He's like, it's just similar.

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Speaker 2: I can't talk about it.

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Speaker 1: Take all that, take all that, you know, fight club

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Speaker 1: somewhere else. We're on the podcast talking about your Christmas album. Dude,

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Speaker 1: I really like Connor and I've gotten to know him

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Speaker 1: a little bit, and obviously we hope that the album

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Speaker 1: sells well. That's that. This is delivering results presented by

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Speaker 1: Uber eats. It's time for delivering results where we give

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Speaker 1: it to the best player of the week. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: give it to Deebo Samuel. Deebo Samuel had three touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: He had two of them, receiving one of them rushing.

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Speaker 1: He also talked a bunch of smack leading up to

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Speaker 1: the game and then backed it up and was the

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Speaker 1: best player on the field. He got my game Ball

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Speaker 1: on Good Morning Football. And he's also getting this award here.

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Speaker 1: When you talk about that game and all the build

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Speaker 1: up and all the chatter, like for Debo to come

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Speaker 1: out there and be as tough as he was and

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Speaker 1: to be as strong as he was and to back

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Speaker 1: up every last second of it, that's pretty impressive. That

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Order Now, Aaron, we got a great

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Speaker 1: week ahead, Eagles, Cowboys Week, Chiefs, Bills Week. I'm here

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Speaker 1: for it. This is we've turned the corner, you know,

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Speaker 1: the dog days of that stretch, like before Thanksgiving. We

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Speaker 1: are here. The playoffs basically are starting, and I love

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Speaker 1: sharing it each week. It is the Season with Peter Schrager.

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Speaker 1: Aaron won Offman, Jason English, all the folks out in

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Speaker 1: la our music maestro, the great Jack Rudd. This is

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Speaker 1: a joy to do and we'll be with you guys

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Speaker 1: next week. All right, thanks for listening. The Season with

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Speaker 1: Peter Schrager is a production of the NFL and partnership

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