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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Solid Verbal. Coll that for me. I'm

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Speaker 2: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well,

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Speaker 2: I want to be happy. You want to be happy

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Speaker 2: for day at the State. Is that woo woom? And

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Speaker 2: Dan and Tie.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Solid Verble boys and girls. My name,

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Speaker 1: as always is Tie Hildebrand. Joining me way over there

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Speaker 1: virtually seated to my right in New York City.

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Speaker 2: His name is Dan Rubinstein. Sir, how are you? Ty?

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Speaker 2: I am great. It is undeniable that you and I

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Speaker 2: that we should be together. It's unbelievable, Tye. I remember

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Speaker 2: I used to say I'd fall never. The basis is,

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Speaker 2: need to know, Tye. If you don't know just how

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Speaker 2: I feel, man, I have no idea what this is.

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Speaker 2: Ty let me show you now that I'm for real.

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Speaker 2: If all things in time, time will reveal.

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Speaker 1: I am lost? What are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: What do you mean? What am I talking about? Tye?

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Speaker 2: You don't I don't know. I don't know the song?

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Speaker 2: What is it? One? You let a dream come? McKnight

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Speaker 2: just want to be with you. Absolutely it's Brian go

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Speaker 2: back in two thousand, two thousand. Yeah, no, that was

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Speaker 2: I guess that would have been fall of senior year

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Speaker 2: of high school for me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that would be a freshman of college for you.

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Speaker 2: What a time? He used to come into the restaurant

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Speaker 2: I worked in in high school, the barbecue restaurant. Very nice.

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Speaker 1: Deep cut here on the solid verbal.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna that's Brian McKnight's number one song, isn't it? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I just I wasn't expecting you to go that far back.

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Speaker 2: TI always expand that mind.

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Speaker 1: Well, let me let me start the show by also

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Speaker 1: asking you a bit of an awkward question. Okay, would

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Speaker 1: you like to know what I'm wearing?

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Speaker 2: I thought you never ask, of course, TI.

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Speaker 1: I am wearing my delightful green solid Verbal T shirt

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Speaker 1: that just came in the mail Earlier this week. We've

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Speaker 2: Exceeded my expectations and they are They're soft, they're great looking,

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Speaker 2: everything's positioned really well. Shout out to Ken Greeley, who

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Speaker 2: always goes to games and takes pictures at games.

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Speaker 1: It's the only shirt that Ken Greeley has in his dresser.

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Speaker 2: I'm so pumped every time I see that. So, yes,

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Speaker 2: we are doing a second run. It will late October

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Speaker 2: early November somewhere on there. Does that sound okay? Sure,

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Speaker 2: Cannot stress enough thank you to everybody who bought a shirt.

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Speaker 2: It was cool to see some of our pals in

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Speaker 2: sports media posting it online. So very grateful it's so cool.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely, Well, we've got week six in front of us here.

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Speaker 2: It's a good week of games.

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Speaker 1: If you have to miss it in its entirety, which

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Speaker 1: I'm told some people, some emailers have written about it.

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Speaker 1: If you have to miss it in its entirety, make

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Speaker 1: sure it's for somebody special. Ooh, make sure it's for

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Speaker 1: somebody meaningful, for something meaningful, very meaningful in your life.

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Speaker 1: Because though there might not be the headliners like we

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Speaker 1: saw in week two, Warden knows we've got plenty of

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Speaker 1: games here that could go in an interesting way or two.

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Speaker 2: Is that fair to say? Fair to say, appreciate the

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Speaker 2: to do something special, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Totally, totally, totally all right. So what is on your

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling good. I am hopeful that certain teams and

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Speaker 2: all teams, really, but certain teams do enough to maybe

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Speaker 2: Very positive about that. I saw that Bob Stoops said

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Speaker 2: ESPN did a Johnny Football Alabama retrospective oral history type thing.

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Speaker 2: Very cool to see because it's already been this is

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Speaker 2: five years.

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Speaker 1: Tyo, Yeah, it's been a while.

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Speaker 2: But no other than that, everything is pretty much game related.

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Speaker 1: Shall we get right in, sholl we just dive right in.

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Speaker 1: We got a lot of games to discuss here. Let's dance,

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Speaker 1: all right, Dan. Window of opportunity is back. It is

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Speaker 1: in business. It has been repaired. It has been repaired physically, mentally,

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Speaker 1: you name it.

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Speaker 2: The works.

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Speaker 1: We've been working hard in the window of opportunity this

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Speaker 1: week and as I mentioned, a lot of good games.

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Speaker 1: If you got to miss and make sure you're doing

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Speaker 1: it for somebody special, absolutely, But if you do have

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Speaker 1: your drouthers and you can still watch some of the

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Speaker 1: games this week, I think you choose to watch the

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Speaker 1: games earlier. Now, keep in mind Week four didn't work

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Speaker 1: out so well for me when I made that prediction true.

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Speaker 1: I think if you're gonna go out for a date night,

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Speaker 1: this could be a good week to do it. Later on,

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Speaker 1: watch the early afternoon games, the three o'clock games, go

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Speaker 1: I think, I think it will be saved this week.

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Speaker 1: Give me the window tight, give me a block, Give

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Speaker 1: me like an hour forty five, give me two hours,

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Speaker 1: Give me the block that you would recommend for optimal watching,

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Speaker 1: and return. Maybe go out to to Appleby's get some

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Speaker 1: bone with buffalo wings at like seven pm.

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Speaker 2: No, don't do that.

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Speaker 1: I like seven pm, go out, seven pm to nine,

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say, give me the time. Yeah, seven

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Speaker 1: Seven to nine, go out, have an appetizer at your

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Speaker 2: So seven to nine really the only thing that interrupts

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Speaker 2: with I mean Michigan. Michigan State kicks off at seven thirty.

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing Wisconsin Nebraska's at eight pm. This is all

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Speaker 2: of eastern time. Washington State, Oregon is at eight pm.

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Speaker 2: That could be interesting. If for Oregan has any sort

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Speaker 2: of quarterback play, you would be leaving after Miami Florida State,

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Speaker 2: of interesting super late night games if you're on the

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Speaker 2: East coast, Stanford, Utah, San Diego State, UNLV. Maybe if

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Speaker 2: UNLV plays a little bit of defense. No, I think

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Speaker 2: three thirty is the attractive window with West Virginia TCU.

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Speaker 2: So you just make sure Tie, and I speak to

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Speaker 2: everybody here, make sure you leave after the end of

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Speaker 2: those three thirty games. Alabama A and M should not

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Speaker 2: be much of a game. I would say you can

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Speaker 2: you have an app on your phone that will play that,

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Speaker 2: a watch ESPN type thing, the Sling TV. But I

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Speaker 2: think you hit it, Tie, I think you hit it.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. Our window of opportunity go out. I like it.

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Speaker 1: Get some appetizers seven pm to nine pm, be home,

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Speaker 1: round ten, ten thirty.

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Speaker 2: Is there an appetizer? Tie? Is there a non mainstream

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Speaker 2: appetizer that you would recommend? Non mainstream I don't do

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Speaker 2: this food conversation. This is not my Wheelhouse, Hi, because

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Speaker 2: anything I say here is going to be too mainstream

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Speaker 2: for you when you're high fullen, it's not true your

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Speaker 2: high falutin menu. So I just love all mains. I

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Speaker 2: love mainstream, and I love non mainstream.

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Speaker 1: I don't know what non mainstream is. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: abstain from answering this question.

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Speaker 2: Julapanio Popper's tie our mainstream, I would say I would

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Speaker 2: agree with that. Hummus, Maybe not mainstream really at this

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Speaker 2: point in twenty seventeen, probably mainstream. Allow me to let

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Speaker 1: And in the middle of like our Georgia Vandy preview,

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Speaker 2: Of Oh, I've got a good one for then, But okakay.

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Speaker 1: When when we least expect to just board it out?

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Speaker 2: Mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: On that note, let's get to our first game of

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Speaker 1: the week, technically not the first game of the week.

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Speaker 2: But our first game, our.

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Speaker 1: First game of the week, thank you. We'll start at

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Speaker 1: high noon on Saturday to an ABC game. It is

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Speaker 1: Penn State, a fourteen and a half point favorite on

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Speaker 1: the road at Northwestern Daniel. Does this game sound familiar

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Speaker 1: at all to you?

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Speaker 2: I mean yes, I believe. So what should sound familiar.

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Speaker 1: Well, we've been talking about this one for a long

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Speaker 1: time now. Oh, this is your circle weirdness. This was

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Speaker 1: your this was your circle weirdness. Oh you circle weirdness.

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Speaker 1: When we met up before the season to kind of

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Speaker 2: That's true. I hadn't seen Northwestern completely unable to run

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Speaker 2: the ball with Justin Jackson. That was a bit of

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Speaker 2: a surprise. That's a bit of a surprise because other

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Speaker 2: and the Northwestern offense chunks along, chugs along like that,

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Speaker 2: Northwestern doesn't do all that much.

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Speaker 1: Well, we thought that Northwestern was going to look a

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Speaker 1: lot better than they have. It was also a close

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Speaker 1: game two years ago when these teams last played in

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Speaker 1: Evanston and top five teams on the road, you know,

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Speaker 1: that's always an interesting storyline, especially in a place where

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Speaker 1: we saw a close game in recent memory. I don't

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Speaker 1: think Northwestern gets blown out at home. I think they

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Speaker 1: will have trouble running their offense for many of the

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Speaker 1: reasons you've already mentioned. This is not a line that

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Speaker 1: has performed well at all Clayton Thorson, did you know

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Speaker 1: is getting sacked about ten percent of the times he

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Speaker 1: drops back to throw a ball. Great, That is not good,

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Speaker 1: especially against a very good Penn State defense, and as

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Speaker 1: you elluded, their rushing offense is definitively very very bad.

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Speaker 1: If you add all that up, it definitely brings us

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Speaker 1: to a place where Penn State's defense rules the day,

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Speaker 1: but somehow doesn't get headlines because James Franklin's doing fun,

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Speaker 1: creative things with Saquon Barkley.

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Speaker 2: Yes, all true things.

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Speaker 1: So with Penn State winning this game, perhaps it's a

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Speaker 1: gut feel that I can't totally rationalize at this point,

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Speaker 1: but I feel like it's right around the number I

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Speaker 1: think Penn State wins, but they don't cover thirty one

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Speaker 1: to twenty.

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Speaker 2: I'm feeling the more I think about last week, the

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Speaker 2: This is an interesting game.

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Speaker 2: The Florida Gators without what you could argue is they're

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Speaker 2: Twenty seventeen tigers.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I have twenty three seventeen tigers. It is we

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Speaker 1: That's a very important boost. Yeah, well, I probably told

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Speaker 1: If you've never been in that situation where you're basically

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Speaker 1: Florida offense. This is the Florida offense. Yes, I bought

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Speaker 2: It definitely feels like a game that LSU is going

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Speaker 2: he would agree with that. Yeah, done before, has looked before,

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Speaker 1: Saturday three point thirty on Fox Sports One, TCU at home,

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Speaker 1: a thirteen point favorite against West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I will start off by saying that I like TCU

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Speaker 2: Here ooh spicy, is that seventeen points? Seventeen points, it's

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Speaker 2: a lot of points. It's a lot of points. Sell me,

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Speaker 1: I don't feel great about this game. Is where I'm

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Speaker 1: My point though, the reason I'm going TCU is because

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Speaker 2: Anderson and Shawoh Shawoh nailed the first part Ti Alona Lua,

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Speaker 1: Ty you do the complicated names I can't even pronounce food.

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Speaker 2: Kenny Hill has been a plus. If we didn't know

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Speaker 1: Bicy, Yeahicy, I just don't know what you trust in

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Speaker 2: They run the ball super well. Tie. They do.

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Speaker 1: That takes a lot of pressure off our boy Billy Greer. True,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a combination of Darius Anderson on the ground.

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Speaker 1: So let's go forty one to twenty four. TCU wins

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Speaker 2: Shout out to our pal Andy Staples for the very

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Speaker 1: They are on the road. It is a three point

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Speaker 2: to trust them, and to be honest, I think this

435
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Speaker 2: is a situation where you am throw out the numbers.

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Speaker 1: You can throw out numbers, right, absolutely, you could. I

437
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: am not buying these rankings at all. I have watched

438
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Speaker 1: every snap that James Blackman has taken for Florida State.

439
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Speaker 1: He could end up being very good. He probably will be.

440
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Speaker 1: He's not there yet. He's not there yet. If you

441
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Speaker 1: watch the game against Wake, had some flashes could prove

442
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Speaker 1: to be a really good quarterback. He is not there yet,

443
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 1: and Miami's defense is really good. So unless he's been

444
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Speaker 1: sandbagging this whole time, I don't feel particularly confident about

445
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Speaker 1: Florida State moving.

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Speaker 2: The football, or unless he's just been a true freshman. Well, right,

447
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Speaker 2: that's what I'm saying.

448
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Speaker 1: He could be very I don't want to be too

449
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Speaker 1: critical like I've been on Brandon Wimbush, another first time starter,

450
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Speaker 1: but my point here is that he could be very good.

451
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Speaker 1: He's just not ready yet, not for a defense like Miami's.

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Speaker 2: I think you have made a lot of good points.

453
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Speaker 2: I also am a pretty big believer in some of

454
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Speaker 2: Miami's numbers. Their opponent level has not been great, so

455
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Speaker 2: it's hard to take too much away from the numbers,

456
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Speaker 2: so I'm happy to throw a good number of them out.

457
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Speaker 2: But Miami has looked like a complete team. They've run

458
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Speaker 2: the ball extraordinarily well. Mark Walton is averaging damn near

459
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,320
Speaker 2: ten yards per carry. Again, opponent level not great, but

460
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Speaker 2: that's still pretty impressive. They have been extremely efficient offensively. Defensively,

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Speaker 2: the only real knock I'd have is they're not great

462
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Speaker 2: against the run. Wonderful news, ty, Florida State has struggled

463
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Speaker 2: to move the ball on the ground. It's a good

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Speaker 2: weakness against weakness for Miami considering their talent level and experience.

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Speaker 2: I am just I'm not a fan of this Florida

466
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Speaker 2: State offense at all to do anything creative, to adjust,

467
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Speaker 2: to do anything in this game against a good defense,

468
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Speaker 2: even though it's in Tallahassee. I am a big believer

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Speaker 2: that Florida State cannot take advantage of that limited Miami week,

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Speaker 2: I have Miami on the road, and you know, I

471
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Speaker 2: hate home dog I hate picking against home dogs. Ty, Yeah,

472
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Speaker 2: on the road, I have Miami twenty eight seventeen. They

473
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Speaker 2: comfortably cover lock it up. Bluck of the week.

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Speaker 1: I may come back to this one as well.

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Speaker 2: Just not impressed with the Knols.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've got twenty eight to fourteen Miami wins this one.

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Speaker 1: I like them a lot. Nobody's talked a lot about

478
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Speaker 1: Miami because they haven't really played any high profile games yet,

479
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: but this is finally one of those, and I think

480
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Speaker 1: this is the one that gets Miami in the conversation

481
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Speaker 1: because people are going to start to realize that they're good,

482
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Speaker 1: that the schedule is favorable. Bill Connolly has them at

483
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Speaker 1: like a the number escaped me. It's like eighty percent

484
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Speaker 1: chance of them finishing with nine wins or more. This

485
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Speaker 1: is a good football team that's gonna have a very

486
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Speaker 1: good season, and there are a number of deficiencies for

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Speaker 1: Florida State that I think they can take advantage of.

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Speaker 1: Twenty eight fourteen. I agree.

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Speaker 1: Fits, Yeah, let's talk about how Alabama and Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M fit together, or in this case, how they

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Speaker 1: probably don't fit together.

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's talk.

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Speaker 1: Saturday Night, seven fifteen on ESPN twenty six and a

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Speaker 1: half points. Alabama is a road favorite against Texas A

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Speaker 1: and M. Since that great Alabama A and M game

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Speaker 1: back in twenty and thirteen, the one with Johnny Manziel

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Speaker 1: and Mike Evans and the long like ninety nine yard

532
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Speaker 1: touchdown past to Mike Evans.

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Speaker 2: I remember it. That's some Ryan swape. Yeah yeah.

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Speaker 1: Since then, this has been at worst a eighteen point

535
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,920
Speaker 1: victory for Alabama. They've really gone in a better direction,

536
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: a much more consistent direction.

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Speaker 2: Than Texas A and M. Can you craft the scenario?

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Speaker 1: Dan? Can you take me deep inside the mystical world

539
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Speaker 1: of your analytics and craft the scenario in which A

540
00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: and M wins a game like this?

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Speaker 2: No? So, here's what we know about Texas A and M.

542
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,480
Speaker 2: We know Kellen Mond is an interesting dual threat quarterback.

543
00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 2: We know there's talent on both sides of the ball.

544
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 2: Christian Kirk is at worst one of the best all

545
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,640
Speaker 2: purpose players in college football, all purpose offensive skill players

546
00:29:21,920 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 2: in all of college football. They give up too many

547
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:28,479
Speaker 2: bigger passes Texas A and M. Offense stalls out too

548
00:29:28,560 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 2: quickly because Kellen Mond is still not a thrower. That

549
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,080
Speaker 2: sets up the defense for failure. And these are all

550
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,680
Speaker 2: things that Alabama will happily gobble up. They're dominant at

551
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 2: basically everything. The only real chance you have at beating

552
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:45,720
Speaker 2: Alabama is matching them in talent, matching them in the trenches,

553
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 2: and just being fearless on offense, most likely through the air.

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Speaker 2: These are not things I see in Texas A and M.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts is now extraordinary this year in terms of

556
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 2: his efficiency. Hasn't seen a ton of good defenses, but

557
00:29:59,120 --> 00:30:01,640
Speaker 2: there's nothing to complain about with Jalen Hurts, and he

558
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: was the weekly last year against better defenses. I just

559
00:30:06,200 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 2: Alabama minus anything versus a team who doesn't do a

560
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Speaker 2: ton well. I have forty two to fourteen tied.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think we're in Alabama minus anything territory.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I like Travion Williams, I like Keith Ford. I like

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Speaker 1: Christian Kirk. There is no way I can take a

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Speaker 1: and M here against a team like Alabama. And I

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Speaker 1: like Kellen Mond. I can't help but feel like Kellen

567
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Speaker 1: Mond would be a great name for a volcano.

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Speaker 2: And mars Kellen Mond.

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Speaker 1: Here's my question about Alabama. I'm going Bama whatever minus whatever.

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Speaker 2: Okay, give me a question.

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Speaker 1: Is Bama so far and away better than everyone else

572
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Speaker 1: that they're kind of weirdly gonna fly under the radar

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Speaker 1: all season.

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Speaker 2: In the SEC or in the country, just in the country. No,

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Speaker 2: I don't think they're I mean, there is a defending

576
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Speaker 2: champion who beat them, so No, I don't think Alabama

577
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Speaker 2: is so far ahead of Clemson, if ahead at all.

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Speaker 1: It just feels to me like Alabama's going to destroy everybody.

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Speaker 1: And because top three teams that could beat Alabama could

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Speaker 1: oh god, Clemson, maybe Penn State because of their offensive style.

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Speaker 2: I have, I have, Clemson, Oklahoma, and Auburn has become

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Speaker 2: interesting to me.

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Speaker 1: My point though, it feels like Alabama is going to

584
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Speaker 1: destroy everyone to the point where we're generally assuming that's

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Speaker 1: the case from week to week, and it makes them

586
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Speaker 1: perhaps a little bit less interesting. There are fewer people,

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Speaker 1: at least in our circle here talking about Alabama, not

588
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Speaker 1: because they're not any good, just because everyone assumes they're

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Speaker 1: the best.

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Speaker 2: Well, we also only see what a half of Jalen

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Speaker 2: Hurts and the starters. Yeah, they beat Ole Miss by sixty,

592
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:58,360
Speaker 2: they beat Vandy by sixty. I mean the closest team

593
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,800
Speaker 2: right now was a late touchdown was basically I mean

594
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Speaker 2: either Florida State or Colorado State.

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Speaker 1: It's incredible, it's incredible. They're that much better than so

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Speaker 1: much of the competition that I'm telling you, based on

597
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: what has come into solid verbal headquarters, there has been

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Speaker 1: less banter about Alabama.

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Speaker 2: This year than there has in previous years. The good

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Speaker 2: news is, if you like competitive games, they'll have Auburn

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Speaker 2: whatever that is. Thanksgiving weekend, Iron Bowl weekend. It's looking

602
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Speaker 2: more and more like Georgia the following yeah, which is

603
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Speaker 2: a huge test and will not be a blowout. I

604
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 2: don't think either one of those games will be a blowout.

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00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 2: And then the playoff, so they will fly under the radar.

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Speaker 2: And it's also look, there's no Lane Kiffin. There's just

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Speaker 2: you know, there was so much experience in household names

608
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Speaker 2: on defense last year. You had oj Howard who was

609
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: there forever, So I think some of it is still

610
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Speaker 2: learning new names that we only get to see for

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Speaker 2: two quarters.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, I don't know what the rationale is, but

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Speaker 1: that's the way it feels to me anyway. Yeah, Saturday

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Speaker 1: seven point thirty on ABC, we've got Michigan a ten

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Speaker 1: and a half point favorite, hosting who they would call

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Speaker 1: little brother Ah in the ultimate show of Michigan State Disrespect.

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Speaker 2: Dan wife is going to be there, really yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Noted Michigan alum Jody with an eye. Okay, Wilton Spate

619
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Speaker 1: still injured. Even if he were healthy, you'd have to

620
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Speaker 1: seriously consider giving the keys to John o'corn because he

621
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Speaker 1: was a freak on elish against Perdue.

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Speaker 2: We've talked about it on the podcast.

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Speaker 1: Right mm hmm.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: First things first, what's the best unit on the field

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Speaker 1: here in this game.

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Speaker 2: Oh, Michigan's defense, Ty, Not only are the Wolverines the

628
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Speaker 2: best defense, the Wolverine defense might sort of backdoor be

629
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Speaker 2: the best offense with the field position that they'll give

630
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Speaker 2: the Michigan offense and how much their opponent's defense will

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Speaker 2: be on the field because because of how quickly Michigan's

632
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: own defense gets off of it. If that makes any sense, sure,

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Speaker 2: why not.

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Speaker 1: Michigan, according to Bill Connolly's SMP plus, has the number

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Speaker 1: two defense in the country. Even without those numbers, If

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Speaker 1: you've watched any Michigan football, you know the defense is very,

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Speaker 1: very talented, very talented. They lost some key contributors on

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00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,920
Speaker 1: that defense, they're still very good. It's going to keep

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00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:23,880
Speaker 1: them in a lot of games this year. And I'm

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Speaker 1: optimistic about John o'corn. You and I have been joking

641
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: around about John o'corn o'clock.

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Speaker 2: I'm excited.

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Speaker 1: I'm excited to see if they can bring him along,

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Speaker 1: take him to another level. I don't think Michigan State's

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00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: good enough to win a game like this, and we

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Speaker 1: do have a sample to work with here from their

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Speaker 1: last two games because Notre Dame and Iowa two solid defenses.

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Speaker 1: Eighteen points against Notre Dame, seventeen points in a win

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Speaker 1: against Iowa. I don't think it's reasonable to expect more

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Speaker 1: than that here. I think seventeen is probably your threshold

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Speaker 1: against Michigan, But that.

652
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,839
Speaker 2: Does beg the question, what is Michigan's offense of threshold?

653
00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 2: If things are operating like they operated against Cincinnati, and

654
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 2: granted those Wilton Spate teams and Wilt State Spate, it's

655
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:13,160
Speaker 2: still pretty good Cincinnati air force. I just you know,

656
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 2: the first half against Purdue. There's there are legitimate questions

657
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 2: about Michigan's offense.

658
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, there's potential for a stinker, isn't there?

659
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 2: There is one hundred and what do you do in

660
00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:25,600
Speaker 2: this is one hundred percent rivalry game?

661
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:25,879
Speaker 1: Tie?

662
00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? What do you do in those games?

663
00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: Generally you throw the records out. I didn't even think

664
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:37,680
Speaker 1: of that. Yeah, so okay, oooh man, you're blowing my

665
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: mind here.

666
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: In totality, Michigan's offense has been disappointing. They've generated some

667
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 2: bigger plays, but in terms of staying ahead of the chains,

668
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,040
Speaker 2: in terms of converting red zone attempts into six or

669
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,840
Speaker 2: even three, this has been a disappointing year for the

670
00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 2: Michigan offense, especially up front. The offensive line has been

671
00:35:56,520 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: kind of putrid, secretly putrid. Michigan's defense is great. We

672
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: know that Michigan State's offense against the defense like this,

673
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,120
Speaker 2: if they have any hope, it'll be Brian Lawerki short

674
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 2: to intermediate passes. He's been very good.

675
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,520
Speaker 1: He's been better running the football this year too.

676
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:13,360
Speaker 2: He has been good running the football. Michigan State as

677
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: a whole, though, has not been No LJ. Scott's been

678
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 2: pretty disappointing. If they're going to win, it will be

679
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 2: slow plotting drives, keeping the Michigan offense cold. Like your

680
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: stay away theory that you thought pittwooded here to did not. No,

681
00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: it didn't work off of a bye though. I think

682
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,120
Speaker 2: Michigan at home. It's not a crock potting but it

683
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 2: might be like a front door cover type of deal.

684
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,719
Speaker 2: I'm going to say thirty to fourteen because I think

685
00:36:40,719 --> 00:36:43,480
Speaker 2: you're right about Michigan State's point ceiling. I think Michigan

686
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 2: gets it together enough. I'm still John o'corn was Purdue.

687
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:53,399
Speaker 2: It's Purdue. It's okay. I'm not fully sold on, as

688
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 2: my wife likes to say, game day with John Okay,

689
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: very excited, she's all in on John o'corn.

690
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:02,399
Speaker 1: We can go with that. I also like the term

691
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:06,680
Speaker 1: point ceiling. Yeah, I think that's right. Thirty to fourteen,

692
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:12,600
Speaker 1: thirty to seventeen, Michigan wins this game. We were moving

693
00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:13,799
Speaker 1: on ten fifteen.

694
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:16,240
Speaker 2: Who okay?

695
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 1: Fox Sports won Stanford on the road six point favorite

696
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:23,919
Speaker 1: at Utah. Dan is the correct team favorite here.

697
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,680
Speaker 2: I okay, so Utah is going to be playing. I

698
00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 2: believe Troy Williams at quarterback.

699
00:37:29,840 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 1: Troy Williams is, yes, he is the likely starter. Tyler Huntley,

700
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:37,399
Speaker 1: who we've discussed here and there on the podcast, he's

701
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 1: battling an injury and will be unable to play.

702
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 2: It's an interesting matchup because these two teams are both

703
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: successful on offense in very different ways. So Stanford their

704
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:50,879
Speaker 2: home run hitters at this point because of Bryce Love,

705
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:55,640
Speaker 2: they're extraordinarily explosive and not crazy efficient because of the

706
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 2: quarterback change in kJ Costello is definitely more encouraging than

707
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,360
Speaker 2: the Keller Christ Ryan Burns experiment of the past year plus,

708
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,880
Speaker 2: so that's encouraging. They're going to Utah, which is a

709
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:09,800
Speaker 2: difficult place to play. That's typically where pretty good teams

710
00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:13,400
Speaker 2: go to die. Salt Lake City. Utah, on the other hand,

711
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,480
Speaker 2: is that pickleball type team you know, remember talking about

712
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: pickleball time, I remember, yeah, the condensed tennis court. They're

713
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 2: very efficient and they just don't see a field beyond

714
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,200
Speaker 2: twenty yards. They are just the blinders are on Utah runs.

715
00:38:29,239 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 2: The ball relatively well. They throw it, and that's mostly

716
00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:34,719
Speaker 2: with Tyler Huntley relatively well. I like the new offensive

717
00:38:34,760 --> 00:38:40,319
Speaker 2: coaching staff. I have Utah here winning out right by four.

718
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 2: I think it's going to be a very similar game

719
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:45,400
Speaker 2: to what Stanford San Diego State look like. Utah succeeds

720
00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 2: on the ground. They nickel and dime a little bit

721
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: going down the field against what I think Stanford's defense

722
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:53,400
Speaker 2: is quietly one of the more disappointing parts of this

723
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 2: college football season. Yea, they get pushed around. Yeah, I

724
00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,960
Speaker 2: didn't fully see this coming. I'm going to go U

725
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,880
Speaker 2: tie out right once again, twenty eight, twenty four. So

726
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: they are, they have to be. They're my home dog

727
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:13,680
Speaker 2: of the week, tie oh Yoks home dog of the week.

728
00:39:14,719 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: You're stealing a lot of my thunder here tonight, though,

729
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: But that's okay for a team. We're a useful team together.

730
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:28,480
Speaker 1: Thunder kJ Costello, he mentioned him very quickly. He just

731
00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:31,160
Speaker 1: needs to be somewhat effective here. He needs to give

732
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,920
Speaker 1: them something in the passing game. Because Bryce Love, let's

733
00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:37,480
Speaker 1: talk about him again. He's got over one thousand yards

734
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,200
Speaker 1: rushing in five weeks of.

735
00:39:39,120 --> 00:39:41,120
Speaker 2: Plays, so stupid good.

736
00:39:41,239 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: That's incredible. That's a video game statistic there. Eleven point

737
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: one yards per carry and eight touchdowns in five weeks.

738
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:53,879
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, that's incredible. It's ridiculous. I love it. You're right.

739
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 1: This is one hundred percent the kind of game that

740
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:59,440
Speaker 1: looks like it should be all Stanford somehow ends up

741
00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:03,840
Speaker 1: being super close. I think it's defensive minded. I think

742
00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,880
Speaker 1: the difference is Utah's inability to finish drives that has

743
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:10,759
Speaker 1: been a problem so far this season, kind of like

744
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,520
Speaker 1: Florida State actually field goals instead of touchdowns. Eventually, that

745
00:40:15,640 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: comes back to haunt you. I do think they cover here.

746
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 1: I am gonna go the other way that. I'm going

747
00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 1: to say Stanford wins a very close, low scoring game

748
00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:26,919
Speaker 1: twenty one to seventeen. Okay, but I do like UTA

749
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:29,160
Speaker 1: to cover and keep it close. I think we're both

750
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: in the same ballpark as far as that goes.

751
00:40:31,239 --> 00:40:35,120
Speaker 2: We sort of agree, and then let's travel back in time.

752
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:42,080
Speaker 1: Do Boo doo boo Thursday, eight pm ESPN Louisville Louisville

753
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: Lewisville on the road, a three and a half point

754
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 1: favorite at NC State.

755
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 2: All right, okay, uh, when.

756
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:57,799
Speaker 1: You look at the stats for Louisville. What jumps out

757
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,400
Speaker 1: at you immediately is that Lamar Jackson and is literally

758
00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,879
Speaker 1: the entire team. The entire team. He's accounted for over

759
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: two thousand yards of offense eighteen touchdowns. He's also only

760
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 1: played five games. I don't think Louisville is very well

761
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,480
Speaker 1: rounded without him, They're just not He's their best player.

762
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: In college football, you can have one transcendent player. He

763
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:23,839
Speaker 1: can win you a lot of games. But the question now,

764
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: as we go into a game like this, is do

765
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 1: you side with maybe the best player in college football

766
00:41:30,080 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 1: or with a team like NC State that has more

767
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,440
Speaker 1: of a veteran presence. They might have more balance overall

768
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: on offense.

769
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 2: Dan, It's a good question, Ty. Here's how I see it.

770
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Let's start with NC State, because Louisville is probably a

771
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:47,240
Speaker 2: better known commodity right now. NC State's offense with Ryan

772
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:51,359
Speaker 2: Finley has been a pretty well oiled machine. They drive

773
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,239
Speaker 2: down the field, they score points, They beat decent, if

774
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,800
Speaker 2: not pretty good teams. They lose to South Carolina, but

775
00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 2: that was the first week of the year. That's fine.

776
00:41:58,080 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 2: It happens. They don't throw the ball downfield a time.

777
00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 2: They're just creative about how they get the ball to playmakers.

778
00:42:05,480 --> 00:42:08,760
Speaker 2: And Louisville's defense, as we've seen, they can be pushed around,

779
00:42:09,440 --> 00:42:12,960
Speaker 2: and that's that's a disappointing thing. But Ty, but but

780
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 2: NC State gives up some big plays on defense. They

781
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 2: give up a number of big plays and as much

782
00:42:21,239 --> 00:42:25,319
Speaker 2: rightful attention as the defensive front, in particular Bradley Chubb,

783
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:28,160
Speaker 2: who's already into like think double digit tackles for loss.

784
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Yeah this season, he's so good, he's so he might

785
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,839
Speaker 2: be the best defensive player in the country. But that

786
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 2: might be a secret bad matchup. And it feels like

787
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,759
Speaker 2: this line is very enticing to take NC State. They're

788
00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: at home, they've won big games already this year, they're underdogs.

789
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,640
Speaker 2: I think it entices the wrong type of person who

790
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,960
Speaker 2: will gamble on college football. I am not. I don't

791
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 2: gamble on college football. I think Louisville wins this game

792
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,799
Speaker 2: by a touchdown. I think the Lamar Jackson show is

793
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: very real on a big stage. You know, I hate

794
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 2: going against home dogs tie. It hurts me wounds. No,

795
00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,960
Speaker 2: I think Louisville wins this game by a touchdown. I

796
00:43:11,000 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 2: think we are undervaluing Louisville at this point because they

797
00:43:14,520 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 2: lost to a clear top two team in the country.

798
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: They're not on Clemsons level, but NC State might be

799
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 2: a bit of an overvalue right now.

800
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 1: I enjoy teeing you up and letting you talk to

801
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,480
Speaker 1: hear how many of the same points that we have. Yes,

802
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:32,759
Speaker 1: in this case, I think we share.

803
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:33,320
Speaker 2: All of them.

804
00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 1: Actually, Okay, monster game coming for Lamar Jackson. Here on

805
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 1: the ground. I see the tendencies for big plays as well.

806
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,839
Speaker 1: I think he's a home run hitter. You don't need

807
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:49,319
Speaker 1: to be a college football savant. You don't need to

808
00:43:49,360 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 1: watch every week to know that that's his specialty. He's

809
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 1: a big play guy on the ground, through the air

810
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,439
Speaker 1: and dog it's gonna be there. It's gonna be there

811
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 1: in this game. And Sancia State they've given up a

812
00:44:01,480 --> 00:44:03,880
Speaker 1: lot of big plays this year, and that is just

813
00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:06,400
Speaker 1: not a good formula when you've got the Raining Heisman

814
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: Trophy guy on the other side who's such a presence.

815
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: So I think a big game for Lamar Jackson. And

816
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:15,640
Speaker 1: you know I've I've already done this thing where I

817
00:44:15,680 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: lock up Louisville m H. And I don't want to

818
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 1: scare off longtime friends of the show like Lindsay Lindsay million,

819
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:30,120
Speaker 1: long time for Baller. Sure other Lewisville fans. I don't

820
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 1: want to lock up the Cardinals here. I don't want

821
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,760
Speaker 1: to jinx them, so I'm not gonna do that. Okay,

822
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,879
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say I'm feeling very confident. It's very

823
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:41,399
Speaker 1: mature of you, ty Thank you think I'm growing every day.

824
00:44:43,000 --> 00:44:47,120
Speaker 1: I think a big game for Lamar Jackson here. I

825
00:44:47,160 --> 00:44:50,520
Speaker 1: think they win going away. I am gonna say, forty

826
00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:51,600
Speaker 1: nine to twenty four.

827
00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:57,359
Speaker 2: Wow, you think? Oh? I love the balls on that pick.

828
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: Forty nine to twenty four. I like that cards.

829
00:45:01,040 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see NC stay giving up that many

830
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:04,640
Speaker 2: points before.

831
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,520
Speaker 1: We go through quickly a number of other games in

832
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:10,080
Speaker 1: college football. Let me tell you about Casper Dan.

833
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:12,839
Speaker 2: Oh, hell, just do Tye.

834
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: You've got a Casper. I've got a Casper. How is

835
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 1: it working out for you and your wife?

836
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: I have been sleeping like a baby, tie. It's been wonderful.

837
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:25,360
Speaker 1: Currently, the solid wife is away on a business trip,

838
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: and I'm not kidding. When she's gotten home from other

839
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:31,960
Speaker 1: business trips in the past, she's come home and she's

840
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: she said to me, this God's honest truth. I can't

841
00:45:35,239 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: wait to lay on the casper?

842
00:45:37,080 --> 00:45:37,840
Speaker 2: Is that true?

843
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:41,000
Speaker 1: Going to sleep is an exciting experience. Again, our old

844
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: mattress just didn't cut it.

845
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 2: So what what is the new beauty of this Casper? Well,

846
00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 2: let me tell you a little bit more about them.

847
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm glad you ask ready.

848
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:54,279
Speaker 1: Casper is a sleep brand that creates premium mattresses. They

849
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,799
Speaker 1: sell them online for a fraction of what they might

850
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 1: cost in a store. Their business works by continuously developing

851
00:46:01,560 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: their mattresses using feedback from nearly half a million customers.

852
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: They've got a San Francisco R and D team that

853
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: recently developed a proprietary foam big word there that relieves

854
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:18,520
Speaker 1: pressure and decreases airflow. Real customers have said that this

855
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:23,759
Speaker 1: mattress is quote like sleeping on a brioche brioche and

856
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:26,480
Speaker 1: quote like being cradled by the tinkling of a baby

857
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:29,839
Speaker 1: laughter in the moonlight, and quote yeah, that adds up.

858
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,440
Speaker 1: Buying a Casper is easy. You can just order it

859
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,719
Speaker 1: online and whether you're in the United States, Canada or

860
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:39,200
Speaker 1: now even the UK, it is delivered to your door

861
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:41,959
Speaker 1: in a compact how did they do that size box?

862
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 1: You also get free shipping. You also get free returns.

863
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: We spend one third of our lives on a mattress, Dan,

864
00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: it is important to truly sleep on a mattress before

865
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Speaker 1: a deal, all right, We've got some other games we

875
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:28,200
Speaker 1: must move quickly, Dan, My gosh, it's got a number

876
00:47:28,239 --> 00:47:31,080
Speaker 1: of them here that we need to get through. Let's

877
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:34,919
Speaker 1: start back with a nooner on Saturday on ESPN two.

878
00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:39,279
Speaker 1: Clemson at home a week after that big road win

879
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:43,920
Speaker 1: in Blacksburg. They're a twenty two point favorite against the

880
00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: wake Forest, Dan, wake Forest has a defense, They've got

881
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 1: a quarterback.

882
00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:56,839
Speaker 2: How you feeling? So this is what my my head says, Ty,

883
00:47:58,600 --> 00:48:01,960
Speaker 2: maybe a slight letdown spot for Clemson. Okay, big win

884
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 2: against Virginia Tech. Comfortable, relatively comfortable win. It feels like

885
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:09,960
Speaker 2: a lot of points. This was about this, the disparity

886
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 2: last year when the game was at Wake, right, it

887
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:15,440
Speaker 2: was like thirty five, fourteen, thirteen, something like that. I

888
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 2: would argue even without Mike Elco, Wake has taken a

889
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,800
Speaker 2: step forward with the uh, the evolution, the development of

890
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:27,880
Speaker 2: John Wolford. I'm gonna roll the dice here, Ty, do

891
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: you know I hate picking against Clemson. I'm gonna roll

892
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,040
Speaker 2: the dice on a back door cover thirty one to fourteen.

893
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: Clemson comfortable win, but Wake gets that back door cove. Wow,

894
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 2: how about that?

895
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:45,600
Speaker 1: Hmmm? I think we're in Clemson minus anything territory, to be.

896
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 2: Honest, that's totally understandable. I'm gonna go Clemson thirty three

897
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 2: to six.

898
00:48:50,719 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: I don't think Wake gets into double digits here, Okay, clemsons.

899
00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't hate that pick.

900
00:48:56,360 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: Saturday at high noon on ESPN Georgia the They're a

901
00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:06,719
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half point road favorite at Vandy Georgia's defense.

902
00:49:06,760 --> 00:49:11,359
Speaker 1: We talked about them earlier has been vicious. So far

903
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 1: this season, nobody has scored twenty points on him yet

904
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,880
Speaker 1: Notre Dame camp close.

905
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's real good. How many points did Notre Dame score?

906
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 1: Notre Dame score a lucky nineteen points like in nineteen

907
00:49:21,960 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: How many can Vandy score?

908
00:49:23,160 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: What is their point ceiling here? Dan, thirteen? Maybe ten

909
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 2: or seven?

910
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,560
Speaker 1: I am horribly on the fence here, horribly on the fence,

911
00:49:32,600 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: not as it relates to who wins the game, but

912
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:37,440
Speaker 1: the point spread to me feels a little bit odd.

913
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,600
Speaker 1: And I wonder if there isn't a bit of a

914
00:49:39,640 --> 00:49:43,879
Speaker 1: letdown effect after that Tennessee game. I really do, because

915
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:49,040
Speaker 1: that was like a momentous victory to just destroy Tennessee

916
00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:51,120
Speaker 1: the way they did forty one to nothing. Now you

917
00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:54,240
Speaker 1: gotta go to Vandy like that kind of lacks the excitement.

918
00:49:55,280 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, but how much did Quentin Dormody really gay? Are

919
00:50:00,520 --> 00:50:04,680
Speaker 2: Georgia and focus Georgia? I say not much. I have

920
00:50:04,719 --> 00:50:07,439
Speaker 2: thirty four to ten Georgia. I think they cover this game.

921
00:50:07,800 --> 00:50:10,280
Speaker 2: That's the extent of my notes on this game. Thirty

922
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:11,280
Speaker 2: four to ten Georgia.

923
00:50:12,120 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: The Dogs so far are undefeated this season against the spread. Yeah,

924
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,440
Speaker 1: and my notes on this game are that sooner or

925
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: later that's going to change because Vegas always wins. So

926
00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:24,239
Speaker 1: seventeen and a half is what I have it at.

927
00:50:24,719 --> 00:50:28,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say Georgia wins thirty one to fourteen. Vandy

928
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,600
Speaker 1: wins by that half point. That little hook an annoying

929
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: little hook.

930
00:50:32,239 --> 00:50:33,879
Speaker 2: Okay, all right?

931
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,600
Speaker 1: Moving on Saturday again, high noon, we lot of nooners.

932
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,360
Speaker 1: M hmm sec network Auburn at home, twenty one and

933
00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:45,160
Speaker 1: a half points, the favorite against all miss.

934
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:47,320
Speaker 2: The extent of my notes.

935
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,759
Speaker 1: Here are that Auburn wins forty two to seventeen and

936
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:50,960
Speaker 1: Jared Stidham goes off.

937
00:50:51,600 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 2: I have forty two to ten tie.

938
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,040
Speaker 1: Wow, we are like minded.

939
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,200
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't think Jared Sidon's gonna throw the ball

940
00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:01,799
Speaker 2: more than seventeen times. Auburn's going to continue to get

941
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:08,280
Speaker 2: healthier on offense. I feel good about a very comfortable Gods,

942
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 2: what's the backup quarterback's name with the long run? Is

943
00:51:10,680 --> 00:51:13,600
Speaker 2: it Malik Willis? Sure? I think we see a good

944
00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 2: heaping of Malik.

945
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:20,719
Speaker 1: Willis Saturday, three thirty ABC, No tre Dame on the

946
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:24,960
Speaker 1: road at North Carolina. So if you go to an

947
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,280
Speaker 1: actual betting site. If you go to a casino right now,

948
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:32,359
Speaker 1: you're gonna see no line on the board for this game.

949
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:34,800
Speaker 1: You're gonna see a lock next to it, not letting

950
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,400
Speaker 1: you select a team that you think is going to

951
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,080
Speaker 1: beat or cover the point spread.

952
00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:40,920
Speaker 2: M h.

953
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,280
Speaker 1: And the reason for that is that apparently Brandon Wimbush

954
00:51:44,320 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 1: has been spotted around town wearing a walking boot. Okay,

955
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 1: this kind of snuck up on us. Dan Brian Kelly

956
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 1: came out and said that he's got something called a

957
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: Grade one foot strain, which, I gotta be honest, sounds

958
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:01,880
Speaker 1: about as real as the Human Fund very vaguely worded

959
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:05,319
Speaker 1: a footstreen. Yes, and there have been pictures that have

960
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 1: emerged about ian Book, their backup quarterback, taking some reps

961
00:52:10,200 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: with the ones.

962
00:52:11,400 --> 00:52:14,960
Speaker 2: So if ian Book plays for Notre Dame, we assume

963
00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,879
Speaker 2: playbook is going to be pared down, probably significantly, right

964
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,800
Speaker 2: see a true freshman. No, he's a red shirt freshman

965
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,840
Speaker 2: and they don't read tret he the second year guy, right.

966
00:52:23,880 --> 00:52:27,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean you could pare down the playbook and

967
00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 1: still run a lot of the same power rushing stuff

968
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:33,600
Speaker 1: that they've had a lot of success with so far

969
00:52:33,640 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 1: this season.

970
00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Josh Adams has been wonderful.

971
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:38,520
Speaker 1: Josh Adams has been very very good. Perhaps you lose

972
00:52:38,560 --> 00:52:40,879
Speaker 1: a little bit of the versatility if Wimbush can't go,

973
00:52:41,640 --> 00:52:44,680
Speaker 1: but Notre Dame still has a very good line, they

974
00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,160
Speaker 1: still have a very strong stable of running backs. And

975
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:51,800
Speaker 1: you know, this is not a good North Carolina team.

976
00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:54,919
Speaker 2: No, it's a completely ravaged by injury. North Carolina team.

977
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,160
Speaker 1: They're ravaged by injuries. They're one and four. It has

978
00:52:57,200 --> 00:53:00,319
Speaker 1: not been pretty. They've not lost to bad we had

979
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: teams per se. They've lost to Cal Louisville Duke, and

980
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:08,120
Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. So far, it's not an easy road, not

981
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: exactly top ten competition. Their next four games, by the way,

982
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:18,239
Speaker 1: if you're interested in knowing this little factoid, after Notre Dame,

983
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,720
Speaker 1: they've also got Virginia, who, by the way, beat Boise.

984
00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: Virginia Tech, who I still think is pretty good in Miami,

985
00:53:24,760 --> 00:53:27,760
Speaker 1: who we've got predicted to roll over Florida State earlier

986
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:28,239
Speaker 1: in the day.

987
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:28,960
Speaker 2: True.

988
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,239
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying that the North Carolina is any good.

989
00:53:32,239 --> 00:53:34,800
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's worth noting that they've lost to

990
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:36,840
Speaker 1: decent teams. They have more decent teams on the schedule

991
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 1: if their season ends up going like five and seven.

992
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,160
Speaker 1: If that four and eight, I was prepared to say

993
00:53:43,160 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 1: that Notre Dame was undervalued in this football game, and

994
00:53:46,600 --> 00:53:48,919
Speaker 1: I think as a whole they're kind of undervalued because

995
00:53:48,920 --> 00:53:52,680
Speaker 1: they lost to Georgia. Close game, but they've got the loss. Now,

996
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,920
Speaker 1: they've got the blemish, and they are a bit flying

997
00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,600
Speaker 1: under the radar. They've got a good defense, their offense

998
00:53:57,680 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 1: is still pretty solid, though I don't feel very well rounded.

999
00:54:01,600 --> 00:54:04,680
Speaker 1: All that aside, even with the backup, I think Notre

1000
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:07,840
Speaker 1: Dame's able to run over North Carolina and cover thirteen

1001
00:54:07,840 --> 00:54:09,399
Speaker 1: and a half. So give me the irishare I don't

1002
00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,759
Speaker 1: think that's about Hold on one second, Grandpa. No, Ian

1003
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 1: Book is the name of the quarterback. It's not a book. No,

1004
00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:19,560
Speaker 1: it's a person. He might play, you, scoundrel.

1005
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: Sorry. I hate when he just gets very confused and

1006
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:26,680
Speaker 2: I just look out for him. Okay, here's what I

1007
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:29,920
Speaker 2: want to happen, Tye, worse than anything in this game,

1008
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 2: and I think you'll appreciate it. I want Ian Book

1009
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,040
Speaker 2: to start, and I want Brandon Wimbush to heal eventually

1010
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:38,400
Speaker 2: or as soon as possible, and be healthy and happy.

1011
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 2: I want ian Book to start, and I want him

1012
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:46,040
Speaker 2: to dominate because you know what that means to me too. No, no,

1013
00:54:46,080 --> 00:54:50,200
Speaker 2: you know what that means. What, folks, is this still

1014
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 2: Brandon Wimbush's team is a gentleman? Has ian Book done

1015
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: enough to win this backup better than the starter?

1016
00:54:58,760 --> 00:54:59,800
Speaker 1: Is it? The backup? U?

1017
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:03,760
Speaker 2: I can't do with that again? I can't, not again,

1018
00:55:05,600 --> 00:55:09,440
Speaker 2: I can't. All last year it killed me. We saw

1019
00:55:09,480 --> 00:55:13,760
Speaker 2: what ian Book was able to drive the ball down

1020
00:55:13,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 2: the field. Not again.

1021
00:55:16,360 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: It seemed like he has chemistry with those receivers. It

1022
00:55:19,719 --> 00:55:21,879
Speaker 1: seems the coaching staff trusts him.

1023
00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 2: Not again, not again? Please? Okay, So, in all likelihood,

1024
00:55:26,120 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 2: if Brandon Wimbush plays, he will be physically limited. They

1025
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 2: will not run him in any sort of significant way. Right, Yes, yeah,

1026
00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:36,040
Speaker 2: I agree, So I am too. I'm much more worried

1027
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,359
Speaker 2: about North Carolina than I am Notre Dame. I think

1028
00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:41,640
Speaker 2: they find a way either just toughing it out on

1029
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 2: the grounds and playing good defense. So the spread for

1030
00:55:44,960 --> 00:55:46,840
Speaker 2: this game is what fifteen, fifteen and a half.

1031
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: I've got it at thirteen and a half, but.

1032
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:52,359
Speaker 2: It's thirteen and a half. It's jumped around a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,

1033
00:55:52,400 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 2: I'm still going to give those points because I think this.

1034
00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,160
Speaker 2: I think they're still too talented and too healthy. Really,

1035
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 2: I think North Carol Line it just does not have

1036
00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: enough in the tank. So I'm going to go with

1037
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,279
Speaker 2: Notre Dame to win this game. If it's ian book.

1038
00:56:05,320 --> 00:56:07,680
Speaker 2: I don't think they score thirty, but twenty seven to

1039
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:08,600
Speaker 2: ten something like that.

1040
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: All right, Saturday at seven on Fox Sports One, We've

1041
00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:17,440
Speaker 1: got Texas at home a four point favorite. Really really

1042
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:24,160
Speaker 1: okay yep against Kansas State. Dan uh, why is Texas favored?

1043
00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:29,000
Speaker 2: It's at home, Texas plays really good defense. Kansas State

1044
00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:32,720
Speaker 2: lost to Vanderbilt, who that loss looks worse by the week.

1045
00:56:34,680 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 2: I think the line of thinking is that Texas offense,

1046
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:41,640
Speaker 2: the Texas offense will get better over the course of

1047
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:46,600
Speaker 2: the season as players become more familiar with the offense.

1048
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:49,960
Speaker 2: But Ty, you also have what do we call it

1049
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:54,560
Speaker 2: the BMS. Yeah, it's not a big game, but I

1050
00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 2: got I hate Texas play calling and what they're trying

1051
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 2: to do on offense right now, I really do. Yeah,

1052
00:57:01,600 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 2: I think in this game, first of all, texask State,

1053
00:57:05,040 --> 00:57:07,440
Speaker 2: Texas has historically been snake bitten. Not that makes a

1054
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,960
Speaker 2: huge difference. But I think Kansas State is gonna play

1055
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 2: slowly and they're gonna keep the Texas offense off the field.

1056
00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 2: So an offense that is in dire need of rhythm

1057
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:21,760
Speaker 2: is going to stay pretty frozen. I think Kansas State

1058
00:57:21,840 --> 00:57:24,440
Speaker 2: covers here. I think they might win outright, Tye, I'm

1059
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 2: gonna take the Wildcats by field goal twenty to seventeen.

1060
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the Wildcats. And by the way,

1061
00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,080
Speaker 1: I'm all in on the BMS thing.

1062
00:57:33,280 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 2: Loo Bat tomorrow you'll barely be able to breathe. I'm

1063
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:39,000
Speaker 2: gonna go.

1064
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Kansas State as well. Straight up?

1065
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:42,360
Speaker 2: All right.

1066
00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:46,400
Speaker 1: We were Saturday, eight pm, Big ten Network, Big Game,

1067
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:51,120
Speaker 1: Wisconsin on the road, a twelve point favorite against.

1068
00:57:50,840 --> 00:58:00,160
Speaker 2: The Nebraska Cornhuskers. Dan how Dog of the Week, Okay,

1069
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:00,920
Speaker 2: your home doog.

1070
00:58:01,480 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 1: Mike Riley a robust two and zero after Nebraska's ad

1071
00:58:06,080 --> 00:58:09,040
Speaker 1: got fired after it seemed he was clinging to life

1072
00:58:09,160 --> 00:58:09,960
Speaker 1: in Lincoln.

1073
00:58:09,800 --> 00:58:11,560
Speaker 2: No course, bump Yeah.

1074
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:15,680
Speaker 1: Saturday night under the lights in Lincoln, the students have declared.

1075
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:16,320
Speaker 2: This game of blackout.

1076
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:20,560
Speaker 1: Uh oh, how do you feel about blackouts and whiteouts

1077
00:58:20,560 --> 00:58:22,160
Speaker 1: stuff like that? How do you feel about that?

1078
00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:25,040
Speaker 2: I think it's fine. I think if if the people

1079
00:58:25,080 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: doing it are having fun and it's victimless and it

1080
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:30,680
Speaker 2: gets the crowd excited, which is always an advantage for

1081
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,080
Speaker 2: hopefully the defense maybe drive a couple false starts. It's cool.

1082
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:35,880
Speaker 2: I'm liking it.

1083
00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:40,320
Speaker 1: Here is I have numerous questions about this, Okay, mainly

1084
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,120
Speaker 1: about the declaration of it, because this happens all the time, right,

1085
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:49,000
Speaker 1: big game, night game, Right, James frank Let somebody, anybody,

1086
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:52,160
Speaker 1: some coach comes out and says, just want everyone to

1087
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,040
Speaker 1: know this is going to be a blackout game, and

1088
00:58:56,120 --> 00:58:58,840
Speaker 1: everyone on message boards they all go crazy like it's

1089
00:58:58,920 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 1: the twelfth man on the field thunder. Yeah, Hey, it's cool,

1090
00:59:03,760 --> 00:59:06,400
Speaker 1: it's fun. I love it, people. This is not a

1091
00:59:06,440 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: magic spell. It's if they can do it for one

1092
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: big game, why don't they do it for every game?

1093
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:14,400
Speaker 2: Why don't they build the whole plane out of the box.

1094
00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:16,240
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying.

1095
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:22,520
Speaker 1: I don't get it. Yeah, I think Nebraska covers this game.

1096
00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 1: I was surprised at how underwhelmed I was a week

1097
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 1: ago when Wisconsin played against Northwestern, because I don't think

1098
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: Northwestern's very good. Uh. To me, it seemed like it

1099
00:59:35,360 --> 00:59:38,440
Speaker 1: took them a little bit to get rolling. I'm still

1100
00:59:38,480 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: not horny for Hornybrook.

1101
00:59:39,720 --> 00:59:40,320
Speaker 2: I've never been.

1102
00:59:40,760 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: Okay, he is the king of pop gun arms. We

1103
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,040
Speaker 1: haven't seen one like this since Bryant Moonees at Hawaii.

1104
00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 2: Record Center. I think, who knows.

1105
00:59:50,640 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 1: I know, I'm gonna go Nebraska just for the hell

1106
00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,320
Speaker 1: of it. They're my home doog of the week. I

1107
00:59:54,320 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: think they cover. I think I think Wisconsin wins. Let's say, uh,

1108
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 1: thirty one to twenty.

1109
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:11,320
Speaker 2: Four, Okay, I have thirty to sixteen Wisconsin? Also fair?

1110
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,720
Speaker 2: Also fair. Here is my reasoning, tanner Lee throwing into

1111
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 2: the teeth of a very very good defense. If I

1112
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:25,720
Speaker 2: am planning to beat Wisconsin, I think there's one way

1113
01:00:25,760 --> 01:00:27,920
Speaker 2: and only one way to do it, and that is

1114
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 2: forcing Alex Hornerbrook to throw a lot. I don't know

1115
01:00:30,880 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 2: if he's thrown more than twenty twenty five times this year.

1116
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:37,960
Speaker 2: I can't imagine he has. I can't imagine Nebraska's defense

1117
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,040
Speaker 2: being the defense to make that happen. If you do

1118
01:00:41,120 --> 01:00:43,360
Speaker 2: not play, if your team does not play very good

1119
01:00:43,400 --> 01:00:48,360
Speaker 2: defense against Wisconsin, you better hope to win ugly. And

1120
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:52,840
Speaker 2: I just don't see it. Ty Wisconsin's going to play defense.

1121
01:00:52,880 --> 01:00:54,920
Speaker 2: They're going to control the clock, They're going to control

1122
01:00:54,960 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 2: the ground. The Nebraska defense and especially their past defense,

1123
01:00:59,480 --> 01:01:01,640
Speaker 2: is not any good. I think you'll see just a

1124
01:01:01,680 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 2: lot of Hornerbrook rolling out and hitting, you know, eight

1125
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:06,640
Speaker 2: yard whatever, Troy Flumcgali.

1126
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,960
Speaker 1: But Dan, it's a blackout.

1127
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: It's a blackout. I know. I think it could be

1128
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:14,640
Speaker 2: close in the first half, but I think Wisconsin grounds

1129
01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 2: them down. So thirty to sixteen something like that, thirty one,

1130
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:20,840
Speaker 2: twenty four, have fun, have fun riding Tannerly.

1131
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:24,880
Speaker 1: Oh God, Saturday at eight pm, final game here on Fox.

1132
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: You're gonna have to explain this one to me, all right. Honestly,

1133
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:32,360
Speaker 1: I say this to you as a friend, not as

1134
01:01:32,360 --> 01:01:32,960
Speaker 1: a co host.

1135
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:33,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1136
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have no notes for this game at all.

1137
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 1: Moregan at last check was favored.

1138
01:01:40,440 --> 01:01:45,200
Speaker 2: Well, no, now I'm seeing Wazoo. It's been swinging back

1139
01:01:45,200 --> 01:01:48,600
Speaker 2: and forth about a four point swing between two and two.

1140
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,880
Speaker 1: So you're you're gonna have to explain this one to me. Yeah,

1141
01:01:51,960 --> 01:01:55,360
Speaker 1: Oregon's at home. They're playing Washington State. Washington State just

1142
01:01:55,400 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: beat USC. Washington State, we would agree, is a pretty

1143
01:01:58,520 --> 01:01:59,200
Speaker 1: good football team.

1144
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,640
Speaker 2: Yes, I say, straight up good they're in the top twelve,

1145
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:04,000
Speaker 2: They've beaten a good team. They're looking like they're a

1146
01:02:04,040 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 2: complete team. They've got an experienced quarterback, they're balanced on

1147
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:09,760
Speaker 2: off a lot of good stuff. Right. They rushed the passer.

1148
01:02:09,880 --> 01:02:15,160
Speaker 1: Yes, Oregon's entire too deep is pretty much on the shelf.

1149
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:20,000
Speaker 1: How could it possibly be that at one point or

1150
01:02:20,040 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 1: at any point in the history of the point spread

1151
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:26,280
Speaker 1: of this football game, that Oregon was favored, because that's

1152
01:02:26,320 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 1: definitely been the case. I saw him as a two

1153
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:29,600
Speaker 1: point favorite earlier in the week.

1154
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I think it was as of yesterday or the

1155
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,920
Speaker 2: day before. Yeah. So here's the conventional wisdom about this game.

1156
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:40,360
Speaker 2: Outside of a vacuum Washington State emotional win. So you

1157
01:02:40,400 --> 01:02:42,800
Speaker 2: have let down potential going to a very hostile place

1158
01:02:42,840 --> 01:02:45,960
Speaker 2: to play against a very much improved defense that was

1159
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 2: very very good against Cal. They lost their quarterback against Cal,

1160
01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:51,600
Speaker 2: they were still they scold what they beat them by

1161
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:53,960
Speaker 2: twenty one. They scored twenty eight from that point on

1162
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:58,640
Speaker 2: without Justin Herbert. So the thinking is they can score

1163
01:02:58,720 --> 01:03:02,960
Speaker 2: without Herbert against average to below average teams, which Washington

1164
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 2: State is not. But if Oregon's defense is very good,

1165
01:03:07,240 --> 01:03:08,680
Speaker 2: I think they get a little bit healthier in the

1166
01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:11,400
Speaker 2: back end. They're still beat up at linebacker and they've

1167
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:14,240
Speaker 2: been getting after the quarterback. So if Oregon's defense can

1168
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 2: get off the field relatively quickly, and Oregon can sort

1169
01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 2: of because Royce Freeman is also dinged up in this game,

1170
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 2: but they have a good amount of depth at running

1171
01:03:24,080 --> 01:03:27,800
Speaker 2: back if they can get the ball to their speed

1172
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:32,080
Speaker 2: in creative ways, so Taj Griffin, Tony Brooks, James. They're

1173
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:35,560
Speaker 2: still beat up at receiver, which is pretty huge problem.

1174
01:03:36,800 --> 01:03:39,320
Speaker 2: That they can sort of win this game in a

1175
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: creative way by playing good defense and running the ball

1176
01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:44,160
Speaker 2: against it what will be a pretty stack box for

1177
01:03:44,280 --> 01:03:46,960
Speaker 2: Washington State. But if they can get it outside, if

1178
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:49,440
Speaker 2: they can get it to the perimeter and Duthkins creatively,

1179
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:52,720
Speaker 2: Oregon has a good shot at home at night in

1180
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:55,440
Speaker 2: a loud place. I don't know if it's going to

1181
01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 2: be Taylor Ally who left the game after hitting the

1182
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: ground pretty hard. He was the former walk on quarterback,

1183
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 2: or Braxton Burmeister all time great name, tyh Yeah, but

1184
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 2: he is a true freshman, So Oregon is starting. In

1185
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:12,880
Speaker 2: either case, somebody with limited experience playing well or no

1186
01:04:13,040 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 2: experience but has upside and Burmeister, I think is a

1187
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:20,320
Speaker 2: smaller guy. He's probably six feet tall at best. So

1188
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,960
Speaker 2: it's a tough road. I don't love tough roads, but

1189
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:29,439
Speaker 2: at least it's at home. I'm going Washington State to win.

1190
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:33,200
Speaker 2: Me too, Me too, I am going Lazoo By. I

1191
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 2: don't think it's going to be big. I don't what

1192
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,120
Speaker 2: the I'm seeing the over under it like sixty one

1193
01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:39,480
Speaker 2: and a half. I think Oregon's defense will do a

1194
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,720
Speaker 2: pretty good job, but I just don't see a path

1195
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,600
Speaker 2: to which Oregon can score thirty points.

1196
01:04:46,720 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: This would be typically a wonderful situation to go with

1197
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:55,360
Speaker 1: a home dog yes on the road after a big,

1198
01:04:55,400 --> 01:05:00,960
Speaker 1: emotional Friday night victory over a top five team. Generally,

1199
01:05:01,080 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 1: those are the situations that you and I would would

1200
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:05,400
Speaker 1: pick out, and it doesn't matter if it's our team

1201
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,520
Speaker 1: or someone else's. Usually we go home dog there. But

1202
01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 1: with such a low point spread and with Oregon's injury troubles,

1203
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,760
Speaker 1: it's difficult to see how they're able to craft to

1204
01:05:16,840 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 1: win here. Even if Washington State comes out and they're

1205
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,360
Speaker 1: a little bit flat. This is a team that even

1206
01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,000
Speaker 1: this season, has been able to pile on points pretty quickly.

1207
01:05:25,600 --> 01:05:29,640
Speaker 1: They run that pyrotechnic air raid Mike Leach offense. They

1208
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:31,520
Speaker 1: can put points on the board pretty quickly, so they're

1209
01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: never really out of a game, especially if they're up

1210
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:37,800
Speaker 1: against the defense like Oregon. Though it's improved, it's still

1211
01:05:37,840 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 1: not shut down Climson quality. Washington State's gonna have their

1212
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:43,480
Speaker 1: cracks to get points. So I'm gonna go with you.

1213
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:45,760
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Washington State wins this one.

1214
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 2: On the road outright, I have thirty one twenty four

1215
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,320
Speaker 2: something like that, and it gave me nightmares going back

1216
01:05:52,320 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 2: a couple of years to the rice frame and running

1217
01:05:55,120 --> 01:05:58,160
Speaker 2: for like three hundred yards and a losing effort. Because

1218
01:05:58,240 --> 01:06:00,640
Speaker 2: Vegas approximately sees this as like a third one twenty

1219
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:02,720
Speaker 2: eight type game, I don't think it's gonna be that close,

1220
01:06:02,800 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 2: so I think it's a it's a touchdown. But Oregon,

1221
01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 2: I think looks all right in a losing effort.

1222
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,760
Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna go back at this point, and

1223
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:13,479
Speaker 1: I am going to issue some walks of the week.

1224
01:06:13,560 --> 01:06:18,400
Speaker 1: If that's okay that what do you have, Let's go

1225
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:25,320
Speaker 1: Miami Block of the Week. I don't generally like doing

1226
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:28,440
Speaker 1: road teams, but I feel pretty confident about that one.

1227
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,480
Speaker 1: I am gonna go way off the grid here. I

1228
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:33,200
Speaker 1: know there are some injury.

1229
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 2: Issues for per Due Perty.

1230
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 1: I know their quarterback situation is a bit in limbo,

1231
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:44,400
Speaker 1: what with their starter having a sprained ac joint in

1232
01:06:44,480 --> 01:06:48,600
Speaker 1: his throwing shoulder. But I trust a lot more in

1233
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:51,120
Speaker 1: the coaching situation at Perdue than I do at Minnesota.

1234
01:06:51,160 --> 01:06:53,480
Speaker 1: And I like PJ. Fleck and his aggressive mind to

1235
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:55,800
Speaker 1: row the boat mentality. But if you give me a

1236
01:06:55,840 --> 01:07:01,960
Speaker 1: chance to take Jeff Brahm minus like three over Minnesota, yeah,

1237
01:07:02,440 --> 01:07:07,040
Speaker 1: look of the week, way off the grid. Give me

1238
01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:10,200
Speaker 1: Perdue minus. I think it's only gonna be like a

1239
01:07:10,200 --> 01:07:12,520
Speaker 1: field goal and something like three and a half four. Yeah,

1240
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,680
Speaker 1: give me Perdue minus the points over Minnesota.

1241
01:07:15,240 --> 01:07:17,480
Speaker 2: Okay. I don't feel strongly about that game, as you

1242
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:18,480
Speaker 2: can imagine, I feel good.

1243
01:07:18,520 --> 01:07:22,439
Speaker 1: I feel eerily confident and produced chances over Minnesota.

1244
01:07:22,520 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So Duke, Virginia sneaky interesting for the upper middle

1245
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:31,480
Speaker 2: class of that division. Sure, Pitt Syracuse is gonna be

1246
01:07:31,560 --> 01:07:34,720
Speaker 2: very bad. I think Syracuse wins that game comfortably. Virginia

1247
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,800
Speaker 2: Tech Boston College potential letdown spot. Virginia Tech going on

1248
01:07:37,840 --> 01:07:39,800
Speaker 2: the road to a Boston College team that gave Clemson

1249
01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:45,000
Speaker 2: some trouble for a good amount of that game. Outside

1250
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,600
Speaker 2: of that, I don't see a lot tie. So I

1251
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,640
Speaker 2: guess I'm just gonna make a request, if that's cool

1252
01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:51,000
Speaker 2: by you.

1253
01:07:51,200 --> 01:07:54,400
Speaker 1: A request, Yeah, I just make it, make it quick

1254
01:07:54,480 --> 01:07:56,600
Speaker 1: because we're we're running out of time here, Will.

1255
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:03,120
Speaker 2: You drop that warming, slippery, nibbling, thrashing drum and fife?

1256
01:08:04,120 --> 01:08:05,200
Speaker 2: Did you look that one up?

1257
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,680
Speaker 1: Are those are those ones that you pulled out of

1258
01:08:07,720 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: a thesaurus or.

1259
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:11,720
Speaker 2: Something that was pulled out of the demented brain of

1260
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:14,880
Speaker 2: Dan Rubins. Okay, what do we got? We got Monmouth

1261
01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,240
Speaker 2: at holy Cross time. Let me tell you something about

1262
01:08:17,240 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 2: this holy Cross team. They are not not not the

1263
01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:28,160
Speaker 2: team of Gordie Lockbomb, George Connor, Bill Swayaki what we're

1264
01:08:28,200 --> 01:08:31,080
Speaker 2: doing first? Pay? Oh? Okay, right right, right right right?

1265
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:35,639
Speaker 2: Uh Monmouth ty, we're talking about the school of Miles

1266
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,919
Speaker 2: Austin and Chris Hogan. Gimme Monmouth.

1267
01:08:38,560 --> 01:08:42,439
Speaker 1: Monmouth really over the Cross. Monmouth has started out really nicely.

1268
01:08:42,560 --> 01:08:45,559
Speaker 1: Holy Cross just lost to Lafayette like some sort of

1269
01:08:45,640 --> 01:08:48,120
Speaker 1: joke that that was actually a huge joke.

1270
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1271
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,640
Speaker 1: I don't understand that one either, But give me the

1272
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:52,479
Speaker 1: cross Saders here.

1273
01:08:52,520 --> 01:08:53,160
Speaker 2: How dare I?

1274
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: How dare you go against our second favorite Patriot League

1275
01:08:57,120 --> 01:09:00,679
Speaker 1: team that's outside of Lehigh and Lafayette. They're our favorites.

1276
01:09:00,720 --> 01:09:02,480
Speaker 1: But crossa Georgetown.

1277
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,720
Speaker 2: Georgetown going on the road not too far away from

1278
01:09:05,720 --> 01:09:07,680
Speaker 2: New York taking on Princeton, ty And let me tell

1279
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:10,719
Speaker 2: you something about Georgetown. They are the school of Jim Schwartz.

1280
01:09:10,720 --> 01:09:13,879
Speaker 2: That's one hundred percent true. Tie, Yeah, Patrick Hing defensive

1281
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:17,840
Speaker 2: coordinator Patrick Ewing, Alan iverson Jim Schwartz. And what does

1282
01:09:17,880 --> 01:09:24,280
Speaker 2: Princeton have to boast? Ty Dick Kasmyer, Yeah, Karan Reid please, yeah,

1283
01:09:24,760 --> 01:09:25,600
Speaker 2: give me Georgetown.

1284
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Georgetown here as well.

1285
01:09:28,320 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, we've got lee High. Disappointing year for Lehigh, Tye,

1286
01:09:32,720 --> 01:09:35,559
Speaker 2: only if you're a Lehigh fan, wonderful year if you're

1287
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:41,839
Speaker 2: a Lafayette fan. Going to Colgates, Gators or Engineers, Tye,

1288
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,639
Speaker 2: can you name me a Colgate alum? Ty were talking

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Speaker 2: Marv Hubbard, ty We talk in Washington. Defensive coordinator Greg Manooski.

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Speaker 2: This is the official podcast of the Gators of Colgate.

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Speaker 2: Marv Hubbard and Greg Manuski would be proud of this pick.

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Speaker 2: Give me the Gators.

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Speaker 1: Wow, I am gonna go. I have to go with Lehigh.

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Speaker 1: Come on, Snicker's bet, come on, I gotta go Lehigh here.

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Speaker 2: Not only are you riding with the solid wife with

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Speaker 2: this tie, you are riding with the complete fraud that

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Speaker 2: is Kim McQuilkin, Steve Kreider. That's all I got. Listen.

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Speaker 1: There have been three Pulitzer Prize winners to come from lehighs.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm excited about that, this one, this next matchup,

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Speaker 2: Tye tore at the very soul of my being. Forda

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Speaker 2: met Lafayette. Wow, that's tough for me. Ty Fordham, New

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Speaker 2: York's puntry team, Lafayette the official Patriot League school of

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Speaker 2: the Rubinstein family. Let me tell you something about Lafayette

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Speaker 2: tie that troubles me. Joe Madden is not walking through

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Speaker 2: that door. Jack Ernst not showing up on campus. I'm

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Speaker 2: rolling with Fordham here. I'm feeling about John Skelton, Harry Mac, Johnskin,

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Speaker 2: Harry Chikoonskin. Are these real people, one hundred percent real people?

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Speaker 2: You know? John Skelton, Yeah, I know, John Skelton is Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I'm going for him. They're turning things around.

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Speaker 1: I am gonna go with Lafayette.

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Speaker 2: Of those names, I think Marv Hubert is the most

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Speaker 2: patriot league name. Greg Minuski is pretty good. He's good.

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Speaker 1: Greg Minuski's up there. But yeah it's a good defense. Marvo.

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Speaker 2: Two NFC East defensive coordinators Washington, Philly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah that's pretty good. I'm looking at it, alum. Here

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Speaker 1: for Lafayette named Burr Macintosh, actor, author, an actor, author

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Speaker 1: and photographer.

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Speaker 2: So these are all football players that I named, except

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Speaker 2: you know, Joe Madden.

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Speaker 1: I'm digging deep, deep into the drawer here. I'm going government.

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Speaker 1: I'm going entertainment.

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Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Jim Schwartz is rolling over in his grave.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well, fun show boys and girls. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for tuning in here to the Solid Verbal. Week six

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Speaker 1: is a pun us if you didn't get a shirt.

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Speaker 1: As we mentioned at the top, we will be posting

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Speaker 1: in short order a couple weeks from now, in all

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Speaker 1: likelihood a link where you can get your hands on

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Speaker 1: a second run of our Solidverbal t shirts. So stay

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Speaker 1: tuned to the Twitter feeds, stay tuned to the podcast,

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Speaker 1: and the Facebook page all that jazz. We will provide

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Speaker 1: all of those details for you as soon as it's available.

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Speaker 2: Also, please do follow us.

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Speaker 1: We're on Instagram. We post things on Facebook, videos, things

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Speaker 1: like that. I tried to post one last week, but

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Speaker 1: that didn't work out, so well.

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Speaker 2: Delete it again.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna try it again on Sunday. I have a

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Speaker 1: better idea. I think it's a little bit more bulletproof. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and you've been posting stuff as well. Yeah, so that's

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Speaker 1: one way if you're excited about what's going on here

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Speaker 1: in Verbal Villain, you can stay in touch and get

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Speaker 1: more added free content. Also, do check out the subreddit.

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Speaker 1: of our audience, but still a very lively base of

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Speaker 1: people who are posting about the shows and meeting up

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Speaker 1: with one another at games, writing about the games on Saturday.

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Speaker 1: A lot of fun stuff going on over there, So

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Speaker 1: send it out every Friday afternoon. Taylor is now back,

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Speaker 1: I'm told from his South Amyorica in vacation where he

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Speaker 1: did not eat guinea pig in Ecuador, dan Ah, did.

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Speaker 2: Did you think of an unorthodox not unorthodox, but non

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01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:16,240
Speaker 2: mainstream appetizer? Potato skins? Oh? That's super mains. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not good at this. I'm gonna give one too.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna just give it out. Don't worry about you

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Speaker 2: don't have to mushroom pacers. I don't know. I had

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Speaker 2: this a lot in Italy and Greece, but you can

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Speaker 2: get it at Italian restaurants, Greek restaurants, Middle Eastern restaurants here.

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Speaker 2: Mashed fava beans tie? What is that? Honestly? So? What

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Speaker 2: is what is there? Like white beans tie? Okay? And

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Speaker 2: it's a mash with like tomatoes and onions and garlic,

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Speaker 2: real good dipping, like a pita of flatbread. Spice it

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Speaker 2: up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: I have never in my life been to a restaurant

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Speaker 1: that's had that on the menu.

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Speaker 2: That's not true, that's never.

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Speaker 1: Never in my lifetime, I have I ever been to

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Speaker 1: a place that had that.

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Speaker 2: You've skimmed over it. And I don't blame you because

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Speaker 2: you know you get the fava bean thing. Is It

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Speaker 2: sounds sort of ridiculous, but it's like a grittier hummus

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Speaker 2: I would say, right with with like tomato and garlic

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Speaker 2: and spice.

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Speaker 1: I mean it sounds fine. I'm just you know, that's

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Speaker 1: your world, that's not mine. You're better at bringing you

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01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:21,240
Speaker 1: into Ty. I'm gonna quote Ariel here. I'm gonna paraphrase

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01:15:21,320 --> 01:15:24,559
Speaker 1: Ariel the Little Mermaid. I want you to be part

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01:15:24,600 --> 01:15:29,719
Speaker 1: of my world. On that note, yeah, very awkward note

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01:15:30,160 --> 01:15:32,160
Speaker 1: for my good friend Dan Rubinstein over there in New

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01:15:32,240 --> 01:15:36,000
Speaker 1: York City. For myself, Ty Hilda ran over here in Allentown, Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for subscribing, downloading, and listening. We will catch

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01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 1: you all on Sunday after the games. In the meantime,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your weekend and stay solder.

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Speaker 2: Hey,