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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Appreciate

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Speaker 2: all of you hanging out with us as we roll

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Speaker 2: into what should be a very illuminating and fun show.

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Speaker 2: Buck is here in Nashville. As we mentioned yesterday, we

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Speaker 2: are in our Nashville studio having a good time here.

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Speaker 2: We appreciate all of you giving you a little roadmap

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Speaker 2: where we're headed. Governor Stitt of Oklahoma will join us

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Speaker 2: in the second hour. Then Raymond de Royo from Fox

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Speaker 2: News many of you see him on Laura Ingram Show.

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Speaker 2: He will be with us in the third hour. Lots

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Speaker 2: of different stories. The border is falling apart. We have

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Speaker 2: stupidity from Woope Goldberg on the view go Figure, Nordstrom

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Speaker 2: shutting down in San Francisco, continuing the ridiculousness of San

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Speaker 2: Francisco falling apart. Tucker Carlson under siege as more in

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Speaker 2: more leaks continue to come out about him. But as

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Speaker 2: the last thirty minutes or so, a breaking news story

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Speaker 2: from the Washington Post about Hunter Biden and potential charges

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Speaker 2: that may be coming. And I want to just give

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Speaker 2: you some of the details from this story that just

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Speaker 2: came out in the last hour or so headline Prosecutors

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Speaker 2: near charging decision in Hunter Biden case. A meeting between

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Speaker 2: prosecutors and defense lawyers comes towards the end of an investigation.

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Speaker 2: Of course, this is the four year long investigation into

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Speaker 2: the Hunter Biden laptop and potential charges that could have

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Speaker 2: been proved based on that laptop. Here is the opening

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Speaker 2: paragraph from the Washington Post. Prosecutors are nearing a decision

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Speaker 2: on whether to charge President Biden's son Hunter with tax

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Speaker 2: and gun related violations, according to people familiar with the matter,

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Speaker 2: the culmination of a four year investigation Republicans have sought

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Speaker 2: to portray as evidence the Biden family is corrupt, story

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Speaker 2: says Biden's attorneys met at the Justice Department last week

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Speaker 2: to discuss the case with US Attorney David Weiss of Delaware,

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Speaker 2: according to people familiar with the matter, who spoke on

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Speaker 2: the condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing criminal investigation. Typically,

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Speaker 2: according to the Washington Post, that sort of meeting, in

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Speaker 2: which the defense lawyers urge prosecutors not to seek an

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Speaker 2: indictment or to seek reduced charges, comes towards the end

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Speaker 2: of that investigation, People familiar with the matter said Weiss

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Speaker 2: nearing the end of his decision making process.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 2: They cautioned the probe has taken longer than some officials

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Speaker 2: thought it would and that law enforcement officials have been frustrated.

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Speaker 3: What do you think, Buck?

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Speaker 2: This would have obviously very significant impact on Joe Biden's

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Speaker 2: recently announced presidential campaign. What I have been saying, I

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Speaker 2: think for over a year now, maybe even a couple

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Speaker 2: some form of charges brought here now. This obviously would

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Speaker 2: be unprecedented for a sitting president's son to be facing

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Speaker 2: felony charges. It would also significantly add a monstrous amount

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Speaker 2: of attention and also legitimacy to Republican arguments, which I

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Speaker 2: think are very legitimate that the Biden crime family has

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Speaker 2: been involved in many different crimes. So, Buck, how do

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Speaker 2: you analyze this Washington Post story that just came out?

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Speaker 1: Anybody who understands just as as a way, I think

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Speaker 1: of prefacing the whole discussion that we're getting into now

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Speaker 1: about what's going to happen, and then understands the purpose

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Speaker 1: of a special counsel. Why special councils even exist should

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Speaker 1: first be reminded that this is why a special council exists.

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Speaker 1: By the way, this is one where there has not

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Speaker 1: been the appointment of a special council. But when you

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Speaker 1: have the sitting president's son, yeah, under possible federal indictment,

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Speaker 1: that is why, because the idea is quite obviously you

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Speaker 1: can't trust the White House, which oversees the Department of

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Speaker 1: Justice to Right now, what do we have, Clay, We

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Speaker 1: have Merrick Garland Biden employees word that he will allow

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Speaker 1: this to proceed without any political interference or pressure whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Does anybody believe that it's already taken longer than anyone

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Speaker 1: thought it four years?

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Speaker 3: Right? So that is.

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Speaker 1: Suspicious to begin with, there should have been a special

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Speaker 1: council appointed. There has not. That decision was political. Just

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Speaker 2: What that meeting that the Washington Post is reporting about

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Speaker 1: There will not be a trial. But see this is

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Speaker 1: where it gets really interesting. We don't know what happens

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Speaker 1: almost certainly when you're talking about millions of dollars of

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of accountants, I'm sure

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Speaker 3: If you have an if you are an account you have.

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Speaker 1: A client who says, look, I may have set up

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Speaker 1: I just didn't declare any taxes on for a number

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Speaker 3: Those accounts would probably have.

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Speaker 1: A heart attack, right, I mean not declaring income from

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Speaker 1: go to prison for me and just just talk to

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Speaker 1: Wesley Snipes by the way, right, that's what people for

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Speaker 1: those two I was a big Wesley Snipes fan back

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Speaker 3: He went away for I think it was three or four.

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Speaker 2: You have to be super rich, first of all, to

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Speaker 2: even be able to owe millions of dollars in back taxes. Right,

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Speaker 2: most people, even if they didn't pay their taxes for

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Speaker 1: You're usually in a in a tax issue, there's the

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Speaker 1: well I thought, and Mike, and that's real, by the way,

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Speaker 1: because the tax code is so opaque and thousands and

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Speaker 1: not paying taxes on it, that's about as bright red

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Speaker 3: And so I think that you're gonna.

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Speaker 1: See a a pretty obviously sweetheart deal for Hunter Biden.

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Speaker 1: But I would just say this, Clay, as long as

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Speaker 1: here's how I see it playing out, even even up

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Speaker 1: to let's say there's something a little bit more serious. Let'say,

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Speaker 1: he pleads to a felony, but there's no jail time,

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Speaker 1: which which is that that would be a little bit

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Speaker 1: more than what I would anticipate. But he pleads to

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Speaker 3: That's the thing.

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Speaker 1: He'll pay some massive fine even in that situation. The

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Speaker 1: They're gonna say, oh, it's just he struggles with addiction

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Speaker 1: Joe just loves his son so much. They will turn

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Speaker 1: wayward son that remains of the Biden. Now I'm saying

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Speaker 1: what the media narrative around this will be, but I

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Speaker 1: think that'll be reasonably effective until you get money from

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Speaker 1: Hunter to Joe, until you can show the crime family

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Speaker 1: in operation. And by the way, they'll do everything to

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Speaker 3: So I think they're gonna have to bring charges.

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Speaker 2: I have just you know, I've got the Marco Polo

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Speaker 2: Report buck For people out there who know what I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about. This is like a you know, six hundred

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Speaker 2: page investigation that somebody published and you can flip through

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Speaker 2: it and you can see all the detailed crimes. I

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Speaker 2: actually think that if they bring charges, which I believe

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Speaker 2: collapse for Joe Biden. And let me just let me

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Speaker 2: just lay out the possibility here. So first of all,

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Speaker 2: as soon as their charges brought, any argument of oh,

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Speaker 2: that laptop is fake is out the window, right, I

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Speaker 2: mean it is. It is out the window. And so

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Speaker 2: Secretary of State Blinking for instance, and everyone else who

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Speaker 2: actually real, they're on the clock too. I also think

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Speaker 2: it emboldens and enforces, reinforces perhaps all of the other

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Speaker 2: potential criminal entanglements involving the Biden family, Because once you

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Speaker 2: find one little tendril of truth, and you keep pulling it,

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Speaker 2: it gets harder and harder to deny. And I just

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Speaker 2: think that Hunter is the lynch pin here because if

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Speaker 2: they charge him, first of all, it would take a year, right,

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Speaker 2: I mean, we know these cases don't move rapidly. Now,

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Speaker 2: your point, if he pled down to charge and this

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Speaker 2: he doesn't do that, it puts his dad really on

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Speaker 2: the clock, because do you think that Hunter would get

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Speaker 3: I kind of think you would.

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Speaker 2: And then we get into that really politically toxic idea

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Speaker 2: if he got re elected, he could do it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But but there's that puts so much more faith

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Speaker 3: Remember, I think it doesn't.

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Speaker 2: Remember from my theory though, that if you charge Hunter,

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Speaker 2: even if it's a low level, so you can charge Trump,

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Speaker 2: it allows you to charge Trump. Because I think this

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Speaker 2: has been my big argument for a while. Merrick Garland

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Speaker 2: we're applying the law without favor. This is whether it's

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Speaker 2: the president's son or the former president of the United States.

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Speaker 2: No one is above the law. If they charge Hunter

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Speaker 2: with relatively low level offenses, which aren't that significant, it

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Speaker 3: But I think that's really significant.

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Speaker 1: Right when you're saying they're bringing charges, they could bring

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Speaker 1: charges that could send him to prison for years, or

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Speaker 1: they could agree to a plea deal where he just

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Speaker 1: pays additional fines and admits some level of financial impropriety.

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Speaker 1: To me, the second one is still a sweep away,

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Speaker 1: and they say, Okay, we're all done here, and it

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Speaker 1: doesn't even factor into it.

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Speaker 2: Well, it allows them to then claim that nobody's getting preferential.

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Speaker 3: True, right, but I don't know how much we care.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe they're trying to play to the independence, right

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Speaker 1: because we know we know there is preferential so this

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Speaker 1: is why. So this is a little bit like when

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Speaker 1: they were running the the January sixth Liz Cheney specials.

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Speaker 1: We're sitting here saying, you know, who cares about this stuff? Well,

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Speaker 1: they are going after one percent, we're going. It absolutely worked,

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Speaker 1: and it's very frustrating, and you know a lot of

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Speaker 1: Everybody all across the country we have now with us

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Speaker 1: Governor Kevin Stitt of Oklahoma. Governor Stip, we know you're

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Speaker 4: Well, listen in Oklahoma, I mean it's common sense. I've

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Speaker 4: You know, I can't, I'll have to pull up the

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Speaker 1: They voted against this. They did not go That's all

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Speaker 4: That is correct. That is correct.

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Speaker 2: Governor appreciates you coming on year round, both of our ages.

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Speaker 2: I mean, where do we go from here? Because it

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Speaker 4: Well you said it so well. I mean I signed

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Speaker 3: We're speaking to Governor Kevin, State of Oklahoma. Governor.

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Speaker 1: You know, just last week, the justice, the Biden Justice

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Speaker 4: Well, you know, the federal government sometimes tries to, you know,

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Speaker 4: let me the first tell you that I represent four

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Speaker 4: I refuse to shut my state down during COVID. And

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Speaker 4: now you're seeing people move to Oklahoma. We're top ten

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Speaker 2: Governor, You're obviously a neighbor of Texas. And I'm wondering,

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Speaker 4: Well, you know that's something that the Republican Governors Association

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Speaker 4: with Governor Abbott. There was ten governors that went to

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Speaker 4: the border. We put a ten point plan together. We

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Speaker 4: need to go back to the Trump policies of remaining

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Speaker 4: in Mexico. We have to have a strong border. It's

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Speaker 4: just beyond me. It's mind boggling. It makes no common

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Speaker 4: sense to not say we have to know who's coming

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Speaker 4: through our southern border. You've got the fetanol issue that

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Speaker 4: that's really what is affecting my state and bordering states

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Speaker 4: to Texas, and because we know that's flooding in through

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Speaker 4: the southern border. At the same sense, once we have

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Speaker 4: a strong border, we have to have common sense immigration reform.

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Speaker 4: And so again it all flows together. Ronald Reagan had

448
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Speaker 4: an immigration policy. We need to be talking about that,

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Speaker 4: But we can't even have that conversation because you're just

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Speaker 4: gonna be uh, you're just gonna the mass migrace is

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Speaker 4: going to continue to flood in if you don't have

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Speaker 4: a strong border. So again, I just can't tell you

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Speaker 4: how strongly we should be, you know, defending our border,

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Speaker 4: making sure we know who's coming into our country and

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Speaker 4: uh and what whatever it is putting more border. Oh,

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Speaker 4: thanks so much, guys.

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Speaker 3: We'll talk to you soon, Yes, sir.

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Speaker 1: You know Clay Uh, it's it's such an interesting stat

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Speaker 1: that he brings up aout Oklhall. You know, Oklahoma is

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Speaker 1: not a big state, so for it it's one thing

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Speaker 1: when Florida and Texas are getting a lot of people

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Speaker 1: moving to them because they've got huge populations there. There

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Speaker 1: are places that for a long time have been uh

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Speaker 1: you know there there's reasons why people would go seek

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Speaker 1: them out. You know, it's interesting in Oklahoma, I think

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Speaker 1: just because of policy. Sure, there's economic opportunity and you

467
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Speaker 1: can get good value for your money there in terms

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Speaker 1: of home and qual life, cost of living, all that stuff.

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Speaker 1: But these red states are running up the scoreboard, and

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Speaker 1: the redder they are increasingly, we see, the more people

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Speaker 1: are just like, sign me up. I got to go

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Speaker 1: to this place. I've got to figure this out and

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Speaker 1: how I can how I can get there. You know,

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Speaker 1: one thing that I was curious about, and I'm wondering

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Speaker 1: if maybe we could get the Governor of Tennessee as

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Speaker 1: we were sitting here in Tennessee, to join us at

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Speaker 1: some point and explain this. It seems to me that

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Speaker 1: we're at a point where with the we mentioned the

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Speaker 1: Trends Shooter Manifesto, it has been delayed once again. Could

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Speaker 1: could Governor Lee just say, I mean, he's the head

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Speaker 1: of law enforcement the state of Tennessee, that they need

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Speaker 1: to release this thing.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 1: I feel like if it were Oklahoma, they would have

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Speaker 1: released it. I feel like there's a little bit of

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Speaker 1: a delay here. They're allowing Nashville and the f So

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Speaker 1: it was the FBI the FEDS, and now it's Nashville

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Speaker 1: PD weighing in and someone needs to come in and say,

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Speaker 1: the people of this state have a right to know

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Speaker 1: if they want to know what the motivation here was

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Speaker 1: and what happened.

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Speaker 2: No, I think you're right, And for those of you

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Speaker 2: out there don't who don't know, we'll open up phone

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Speaker 2: lines on this eight hundred and two two two eight

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Speaker 2: a two. While we've been on the air, the Nashville

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Speaker 2: Police Department has put out a statement saying that due

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Speaker 2: to depending litigation, they are not going to be able

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Speaker 2: to release the Trends manifesto. Now, the manifesto, as I

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Speaker 2: understand it, buck is not one document. This transshooter had

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Speaker 2: a bunch of different sort of journals that she was

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Speaker 2: keeping that laid out the rationale behind the decision that

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Speaker 2: she was making. But I've been told, and I said

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Speaker 2: it on the show, that this was going to be released.

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Speaker 2: Last week, the Nashville Police Department said that they were

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Speaker 2: going to be releasing it. And now we're sitting thirty

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Speaker 2: seven days out and it still hasn't happened, and now

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Speaker 2: I question whether it's ever going to be released.

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Speaker 1: I think that they could have handled this very early

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Speaker 1: on by saying, look, we understand people want to have

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Speaker 1: some sense of and you know, it is a public

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Speaker 1: safety issue. It's a public it's an issue of public

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Speaker 1: need to know. We would have said an intelligence community, right,

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Speaker 1: why did this person do what she did? Now, if

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Speaker 1: it's just that she's a complete, you know, psychopathic lunatic

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Speaker 1: and there's nothing else that anyone should be aware of

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Speaker 1: that was part of the motivations of this, as in

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Speaker 1: political motivations of some kind, then they should say that.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 1: They could tell us, look, we've scrubbed all the information

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Speaker 1: we have and here is our honest, best assessment of motivation.

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Speaker 1: And that would at least now, I think, still eventually

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Speaker 1: you have to release the manifesto. But remember they won't

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Speaker 1: tell us motivation at all. Nothing We've heard nothing about this.

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Speaker 1: They won't tell us motivation, and they won't release the

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Speaker 1: source material. That's what makes it feel so much like

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Speaker 1: a cover up. Now you could say, well, buck, they

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Speaker 1: could just lie about the motivation. But yeah, eventually when

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Speaker 1: the information comes out, and I believe it will at

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Speaker 1: some point. If they lie and they look, you know

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Speaker 1: that that's a massive liability for them. And I don't

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Speaker 1: think you know, I don't think that's happening right now.

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Speaker 1: But for them to withhold any insight on why this happened,

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Speaker 1: and the information itself just seems like a political a

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Speaker 1: political cover up, and I think everyone is pretty furious

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Speaker 1: about it. Who's been following the case closely.

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Speaker 2: Buck One thing that I've been told, and I've been

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Speaker 2: holding off on saying it, but I've been told by

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Speaker 2: reliable people on it, is that the reason she went

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Speaker 2: to this school in her writings is detailed because she

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Speaker 2: found that there was not significant security there and it's

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Speaker 2: bare minimum compared to other schools, compared to other schools.

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Speaker 1: So think about just the political implications of that. Think

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Speaker 1: of every mass shooting we have seen recently that has

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Speaker 1: occurred at a school, what do conservatives say, What is

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Speaker 1: the position, how do we increase security? We should allow

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Speaker 1: teachers to arn't. That doesn't mean every teacher. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean you know, uh, you know missus Ethel who's ninety

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Speaker 1: five to go in strapped. It means that you've got

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Speaker 1: guys who are former law enforcement. You've got people who

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Speaker 1: just want to get the training and know how to

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Speaker 1: handle a weapon, who want to conceal Carrie who would

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Speaker 1: create that additional effect of any school shooter has to

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Speaker 1: know maybe there's an armed teacher. I don't know who

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Speaker 1: it would be in the school, plus the possibility of

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Speaker 1: armed official uniform security. This is what we say if

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Speaker 1: that was taken into the mindset of the mass shooter

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Speaker 1: in Tennessee. That's what I mean by we have a

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Speaker 1: right to know on a policy level if these kinds

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Speaker 1: of considerations are being made by the mass murderers who

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Speaker 1: enter our schools with the intent to harm our children.

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Speaker 1: But the Biden administration does not want that to be

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Speaker 1: part of the discussion, we would know that obviously.

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Speaker 2: That's what I have been told is that her decision

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Speaker 2: to attack that school was based on going in and

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Speaker 2: looking at it and seeing that it was less well

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Speaker 2: protected than other schools and other locations as well, that

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Speaker 2: she considered for a mass shooting. Right, that, by itself,

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Speaker 2: health would be an incredible revelation because what it would

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Speaker 2: reflect is something that all of you know, you can

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Speaker 2: be insane and still make partly sane decisions. In other words,

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Speaker 2: she didn't walk into Fort Knox, right. She didn't walk

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Speaker 2: into Fort Knox and try to shoot that place up.

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Speaker 2: Fort Campbell is just up the road right where there's

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Speaker 2: tons of military. She didn't show up there and try

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Speaker 2: to shoot that she went into a religious elementary school

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Speaker 2: that she believed she would be able to wreak mass

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Speaker 2: chaos up on and so all of these details matter.

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Speaker 2: I think it's consequential. As we said with the Uvalde shooting,

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Speaker 2: we needn't look at every single thing there. Now. The

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Speaker 2: Nashville police, to their credit, responded heroically to this shooter.

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Speaker 1: Some more truly that the officers heroical. There's the bureaucracy

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Speaker 1: of the police, which I think we still have issues with,

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Speaker 1: but those officers on that day were heroic.

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Speaker 2: And I think every citizen of Nashville, and I'm one

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Speaker 2: of them, deserves to know why this transshooter shows this

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Speaker 2: location and what else did she put out there about

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Speaker 2: her motivations to do so.

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Speaker 1: If if there was a change if she's a terrorist, okay,

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Speaker 1: if there was a change in tactics that the terrorists

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Speaker 1: made because of the issue of armed teachers and or security,

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Speaker 1: we have a public interest right to know that. And

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Speaker 1: it makes a difference the parents out there, parents and

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Speaker 1: national parents across the country should know, Hey, psychopathic school shooters.

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Speaker 1: By the way, when I was in the CI and

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Speaker 1: we're helping, you know, Jaysak tagging bag the bad guys

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Speaker 1: all over the world, the jihattists, there's all there's all

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Speaker 1: kinds of crazy. They're still thinking about how they can

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Speaker 1: kill maximum number of innocent people. They're crazy, but they're

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Speaker 1: still trying to There's altagically the correct they're trying to

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Speaker 1: be tactically proficient. But that's a component of this. And

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Speaker 1: then also if the media narrative about you know, trans

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Speaker 1: children not being able to get the gender affirming notice

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Speaker 1: how it's no longer gender transition gender affirming surgery in Tennessee.

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Speaker 3: If that was a factor, well, then we should look

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Speaker 3: at the.

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Speaker 1: Rhetoric that's being used about transgenocide and the rest of

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Speaker 1: the stuff that's being said left wing media. These are

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Speaker 1: the kinds of things people are wondering. Why would we

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Speaker 1: want to know? These are the reasons we want to know.

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Speaker 1: It's not just for some idle curiosity to delve into

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Speaker 1: the mind of an evil psychopath.

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Speaker 2: And I again, if this person had been a dranged

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Speaker 2: Trump supporting lunatic and they had written a manifesto, all

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Speaker 2: of that information would be out, and it would have

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Speaker 2: been out within a day of the shooting. We're sitting

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Speaker 2: here thirty seven days after a crazy psychotic trans terrorist

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Speaker 2: attack to innocent people in a religious school, and the

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Speaker 2: City of Nashville has still not made all of this

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Speaker 2: information public. I think it's unacceptable to your point. Buck

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Speaker 2: Republican governor, double Republican senators. Eight of the nine congressional

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Speaker 2: of a point. That just happened, stock market relatively quiet.

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Speaker 2: The more significant thing than the quarter point raise again,

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Speaker 2: this is the most rapid rise in interest rates we

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Speaker 2: have seen in two generations in forty years. More significant

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Speaker 2: than that, at least, is that the Fed said that

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Speaker 2: they anticipate that they will not be raising rates anymore

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Speaker 2: right now. So what that means we will see how

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Speaker 2: long that could last but again, the stock market, I

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Speaker 2: would imagine, would react more positively, at least to the

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Speaker 2: idea that the FED is not going to be raising rates.

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Speaker 2: According to this statement, another quarter point raise, but they

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Speaker 2: are not going to be raising it anymore. Okay, first

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Speaker 2: couple of hours, we have covered a wide variety of topics,

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Speaker 2: Hunter Biden decisions on charging according to the Washington Post,

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Speaker 2: looming closer and closer, that was a breaking news story.

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Speaker 3: Also a breaking news story.

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Speaker 2: The Nashville Police say they will not be releasing the

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Speaker 2: Trans Manifesto because of an issue with litigation. We obviously

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Speaker 2: have been talking a lot about that, and frankly, Buck,

671
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Speaker 2: you and I are some of the only media outlets

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Speaker 2: that are really hammerd on this Trans Manifesto related story

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Speaker 2: and the fact that it's not being released. The last

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Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson Show, which is a good segue here. I

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Speaker 2: was a guest on Friday before Tucker was fired on

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Speaker 2: Monday or removed from his show. He may not technically

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Speaker 2: have been fired. I was on and Tucker wanted to

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Speaker 2: talk about the fact that this manifesto had not been released,

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Speaker 2: and so that was the topic of discussion we had

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Speaker 2: over the last I would say nine days or so,

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Speaker 2: there have been abundant leaks coming out of Tucker, behind

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Speaker 2: the scenes stories. It's one today in the New York

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Speaker 2: Times about text messages that Tucker may have sent. There

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Speaker 2: also have been behind the scenes videos of Tucker that

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Speaker 2: were released through media matters. All of these things going

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Speaker 2: on that are, in many ways, I believe it's fair

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Speaker 2: to say designed to make Tucker look bad. I actually

688
00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: think most of the leaks have made Tucker look pretty good.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: Look, I am a Fox News employee. I sold my

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Speaker 2: company out Kick, as you guys know, two years ago

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Speaker 2: to Fox. In my experience, Fox has been very good

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Speaker 2: to work with. But I also understand that in the

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Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, you never when you are not

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Speaker 2: the boss, you don't ever get to make all the decisions.

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Speaker 2: And sometimes bosses make decisions and you look at me

697
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Speaker 2: and say, I don't know, I don't know all the details.

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Speaker 2: I don't know all the reasons that this occurred. Like

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Speaker 2: many of you, I enjoyed being a guest. I also

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Speaker 2: enjoyed watching Tucker Show and Buck. I've been fired several

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Speaker 2: times in media. This may shock some of you. Some

702
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:44,759
Speaker 2: of you may be maybe out there like you need

703
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Speaker 2: to be fired again. Travis, I hate you. But when

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Speaker 2: I started out Kick, the reason why I started OutKick

705
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Speaker 2: was because I had just had the rug yanked out

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Speaker 2: from underneath me. I was working at FanHouse. I loved

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Speaker 2: my job, and suddenly I didn't have a job anymore.

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Speaker 3: And I know there are a lot of.

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Speaker 2: You out there that have small businesses as well. And

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Speaker 2: that's what OutKick was when I started it. I just

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Speaker 2: made the decision at that point in time.

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Speaker 3: Buck.

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Speaker 2: Hey, if I'm going to fail, I want to fail

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Speaker 2: because I made every decision and I made wrong choices.

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Speaker 3: Ended up being a great opportunity for me to start

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Speaker 3: my own business.

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Speaker 2: But unless you are the boss, you serve at the

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Speaker 2: beck and call of your employer, and your employer no

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Speaker 2: matter how good you may be. And I guarantee you

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of you out there listening who have

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Speaker 2: found yourself in this experience. You or someone else that

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Speaker 2: you think is really skilled, may suddenly lose their job.

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Speaker 3: Rush got fired seven times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, seven times, So the greatest in the medium in

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Speaker 1: history had seven different people.

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Speaker 3: Who said, you know, you can't work here anymore? Right,

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00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 3: say about that? Seven times?

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Speaker 2: I've been fired several times myself, and so I wanted

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Speaker 2: to control things. And Buck, I know you feel strongly

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Speaker 2: about this too, because you've been a guest a bunch

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Speaker 2: of times on Tucker and he's a friend of yours

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Speaker 2: and you know him well. As these leaks are continuing,

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Speaker 2: I mean it just here's a couple of things.

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Speaker 3: A couple of things.

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Speaker 1: First of all, I've never been paid a dollar by

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Speaker 1: Fox News, which is I think a shock when some

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Speaker 1: people hear that, because they've seen me going on for years.

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Speaker 1: Fox News is literally never even They never even you know,

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Speaker 1: sent me a reimbursement check for like taking a cab

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Speaker 1: or something. So I've never gotten a single solitary dollar

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Speaker 1: from Fox. Okay, never been an employee, never been a contributor.

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Speaker 1: So here's the first order of business.

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Speaker 3: Where is this.

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Speaker 1: Stuff coming from? Yes, where are the leaks coming from?

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Speaker 3: What is going on here?

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Speaker 1: Because one thing in the media business is you have

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Speaker 1: to trust, you know, we have on this show something

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Speaker 1: that we're very fortunate. We inherited Rush's team. So we

749
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Speaker 1: inherited the best in the business, not only in terms

750
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Speaker 1: of their being really good at what they do, but

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Speaker 1: also moving a loyalty and a trustworthiness to rush and

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Speaker 1: to his enterprise, you know, personally and professionally for you know,

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Speaker 1: over twenty years in the case of everyone who's kind

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Speaker 1: of a senior personnel on our show. Right, So that's

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Speaker 1: that's an amazing thing because anyone in the media knows

756
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Speaker 1: if you have people around you in your immediate sphere

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Speaker 1: who want to, you know, cut what you say off

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Speaker 1: camera out of context, who want to try to get

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Speaker 1: some kind of opo or compromising material on you based

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Speaker 1: upon off air conversations, you know, it's you. You're in

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Speaker 1: a business where we're talking a lot, saying a lot

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Speaker 1: of things that puts you in a precarious position pretty quickly. So,

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Speaker 1: first off, where is this stuff coming from? Megan Kelly

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Speaker 1: has already come out, who was obviously a huge, huge

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Speaker 1: personality herself at Fox News for many years, and she

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Speaker 1: has straight up said that this is coming from Fox.

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Speaker 1: There are other people who are suggesting that there's some

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Speaker 1: sort of mole or even a hack into the line

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Speaker 1: or something else. But we do want to figure this

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Speaker 1: one out because you know, you shouldn't have a situation

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Speaker 1: where Tucker has not has not attacked Fox, he has

772
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Speaker 1: not attacked any Fox personnel he has not done anything

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Speaker 1: dirty at all in a professional relation to Fox. He

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Speaker 1: has conducted himself like nothing but a gentleman up to

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Speaker 1: this point in time. And I would defy anybody to

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Speaker 1: find any evidence to the contrary, and I would want

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Speaker 1: to hear what that could possibly be. Okay, So the

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Speaker 1: one thing is where are the leaks coming from a

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Speaker 1: lot of people have already decided they think this is

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Speaker 1: coming from his former employer, but there are people who say,

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Speaker 1: hold on, we don't know that, so we have to

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Speaker 1: see all right, Then there's the what are we learning

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Speaker 1: about the leaked information about Tucker Carlson? And for the

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Speaker 1: people that know him from his work, and I think

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Speaker 1: even people that know him from you know, day to day.

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Speaker 3: Life, they're like, Yeah, this is Tucker.

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Speaker 1: He's a reverent, he's funny, he's low key, he's talented,

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Speaker 1: he's you know, he's he's off the cuff. And his

789
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,040
Speaker 1: whole thing is he's willing to say things on air

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Speaker 1: and off air that he believes to be true, that

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Speaker 1: he believes to be self effacing, and that he believes

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Speaker 1: may get people in trouble for saying who aren't in

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Speaker 1: a position to say it. And he wants to change that.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think there's been any for people who

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Speaker 1: watch that show. I don't think there's been any brand

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00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 1: damage to Tucker from any of this. It's it's interesting.

797
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,760
Speaker 1: I think there's even more of a rally rally around

798
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Speaker 1: Tucker effect from some of this stuff, and it still

799
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Speaker 1: leaves out there what is gonna happen next?

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Speaker 3: But so that would be that's my top line on this.

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Speaker 1: You're seeing people who are trying to make a big

802
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Speaker 1: deal of this and trying to suggest that oh my gosh,

803
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,480
Speaker 1: and like this is why and whatever. I don't know

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Speaker 1: anybody who watches Tucker who actually because the people hate him, right,

805
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,399
Speaker 1: it's a clays We see this all the time.

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Speaker 3: Oh you know, how many people have you heard I

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Speaker 3: hated I hated Rush Blomball. He's such a bad guy.

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Speaker 1: And you go, literally, did you ever one time in

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Speaker 1: your entire life listening to Rush lumbush? Oh but you know,

810
00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: Al Frankie and John Stewart and blah blah, they said

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Speaker 1: he's terrible.

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Speaker 3: You know, you have so much of that in the media.

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Speaker 1: Not a single person, not a single person I think

814
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Speaker 1: who is a Tucker watcher feels like anything other than

815
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Speaker 1: what happened to our guy?

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Speaker 3: Why isn't he still on the air?

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Speaker 1: And the Tucker that you're seeing is the Tucker that

818
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Speaker 1: we've all expected and known for years on an off camera.

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Speaker 1: I think that's the real perception of the people who

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Speaker 1: pay attention to it.

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Speaker 2: I think you get blown up, buck when your public

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Speaker 2: persona is different than your private behavior.

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Speaker 3: And I don't think.

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Speaker 2: Look, I don't think anybody out there who does what

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Speaker 2: we do thinks that it's fair when a off air

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Speaker 2: mike moment or an off something that is not intended

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Speaker 2: for public consumption, that is clearly not intended for public consumption.

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Speaker 2: For instance, I wouldn't I would be upset if one

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Speaker 2: of our conversations during commercial break suddenly gets leaked, right,

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Speaker 2: Not because what we're saying during commercial break is really

831
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Speaker 2: very much different than what we say on the air,

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Speaker 2: but just because I would think, who actually grab that

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Speaker 2: and share it like that is a viral?

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Speaker 1: Yes, sorry, someone here, unless you believe the the and

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Speaker 1: I don't think I Look, I think very few people

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Speaker 1: do believe that there's a hack or a mole. But

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Speaker 1: there's a betrayal here of sharing information about somebody who

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Speaker 1: there was a relationship with who you know, had an

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Speaker 1: expectation of some off air privacy.

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Speaker 3: Because look, you could do this. Everyone listening to this

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Speaker 3: knows this.

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Speaker 1: Oh you say, okay, well you know you're an on

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Speaker 1: air person Now, Tucker was an on air personality, soho

844
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Speaker 1: he has to expect all of us. My friends can

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Speaker 1: be on air personalities in any job. You can be

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Speaker 1: a greeter at kmart or actually Kmart doesn't exist anywhere,

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Speaker 1: does it. You could be a greeter at martin Walmart,

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Speaker 1: thank you. I think that would be really tough.

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Speaker 3: A greeter at.

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Speaker 1: Walmart and one of your colleagues, you know, in the breakroom,

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Speaker 1: pulls out a video of you and decides that they're

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Speaker 1: going to share online. And you're sharing your political thoughts

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Speaker 1: or something. Now, now you know how it feels right

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Speaker 1: If you don't know you're being recorded in that moment,

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Speaker 1: it can happen absolutely anybody. And I think that there's

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Speaker 1: also a sense here too of how many people really

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Speaker 1: believe that they don't say things. Who doesn't say things

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Speaker 1: in private or think about things in private, whether talking

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Speaker 1: to family or friends, but you know, not on air.

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Speaker 1: You know, when we talk about something here, we know

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Speaker 1: it's going to millions of people. Yes, and there's a

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Speaker 1: responsibility with that. This is why we're careful with language.

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Speaker 1: You know, alleged this or don't have evidence.

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Speaker 3: So far, we haven't said a band word on the air, right.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are expectations for what we say over

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Speaker 1: the microphone that we live by and we understand. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you're home with your wife or with you know,

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Speaker 1: one of your family members, or I'm home with my

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00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: wife and we're having a conversation for someone to intrude

870
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Speaker 1: on that. Now you could say, oh, but it's going

871
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: on in the workplace, all right, Yeah, there's levels here.

872
00:45:49,960 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 1: But I mean, how many of you would even feel

873
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,759
Speaker 1: comfortable if you found out that your workplace was micd

874
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,279
Speaker 1: up twenty four to seven. You know, everything you say

875
00:45:56,520 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: all the time is going to go over to Mike.

876
00:45:58,200 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: Who doesn't grumble about their job a little bit, who

877
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:03,000
Speaker 1: doesn't have moments where they think leadership? I don't know

878
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,080
Speaker 1: anybody who doesn't think that at some point the people

879
00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:07,839
Speaker 1: who are signing their checks are making a mistake or whatever.

880
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 1: Now it's insubordinate to go say that to their face,

881
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:12,719
Speaker 1: but to share it on what you think is a

882
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,719
Speaker 1: private moment with somebody and then get blown up over it,

883
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: which this is another thing that's happened with Tucker that

884
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:18,160
Speaker 1: I think.

885
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 3: Feels like a real violation.

886
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:19,920
Speaker 4: Yeah.

887
00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,839
Speaker 2: And what I would say, however, even with understanding all

888
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:27,320
Speaker 2: of that, is, I also think if our private conversations

889
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 2: were leaked in between breaks, for instance, most people would say, yeah,

890
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:34,960
Speaker 2: that's basically what I would think Clay and Buck's private

891
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:36,200
Speaker 2: conversation would sound like.

892
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:37,840
Speaker 1: It sounds like what we say on air, just with

893
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: the occasional curse word if you really want to know, yes,

894
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: And so if that were to happen, I don't think

895
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 1: it would actually matter that much. To your point, Yes,

896
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:50,040
Speaker 1: the fact that it's out there is a betrayal. But

897
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: what I see in so far the public data and

898
00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: public release from this Tucker situation is it basically solidifies

899
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,839
Speaker 1: that there's not that much of a different between Tucker

900
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:04,320
Speaker 1: Carlson on air and Tucker Carlson in real life. And

901
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,359
Speaker 1: to the extent that that is true no matter who

902
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:10,680
Speaker 1: you are as a media figure, that is I think

903
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: what people want more than anything. I think you crave

904
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: everyone out there listening right now desperately authenticity Because we

905
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 1: live in an inauthentic age. And so you'll forgive Buck

906
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:26,760
Speaker 1: or me or anybody else in media if we sometimes

907
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: get things wrong. What you won't forgive, And I don't

908
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: blame you because I feel the same way is if

909
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:37,280
Speaker 1: someone is publicly pretending to be one thing and privately

910
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: they are another. That hypocrisy, that dichotomy, that difference between

911
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:46,560
Speaker 1: reality and public performance is what blows people up. And

912
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 1: I have not seen any release or leak so far

913
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 1: that does anything other than make people who are Tucker

914
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 1: fans think, oh, that's why I'm a fan of that.

915
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:59,319
Speaker 1: I'd also just say radio as a medium, it's harder

916
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,279
Speaker 1: to you know, Clay and I have both done all

917
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,560
Speaker 1: the other stuff out there TV and everything is still

918
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: doing TV. It's harder to hide for three hours a

919
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 1: day on radio.

920
00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:09,160
Speaker 3: I can't act. You can't do it. I couldn't do it.

921
00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 3: And this audience knows that.

922
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,879
Speaker 1: I mean, you all got to know Rush so well

923
00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:15,719
Speaker 1: over so many years, and it's the same thing when

924
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: people come up to us who listen to the show

925
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 1: every day, you know how we are. Because in radio

926
00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,600
Speaker 1: it's just it's too much of a trip through the

927
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Speaker 1: mind of the person talking to you or in arquees

928
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Speaker 1: minds for three hours every day. You know, inflation has

929
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Speaker 1: affected everything out there, and look, it's really stubborn right

930
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Speaker 1: now for gun owners. The cost of getting the range

931
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932
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933
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Speaker 1: really cool to have the ability to monitor your progress

939
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Speaker 1: at mantisx dot com. That's MA and tisx dot com.

947
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Speaker 2: From the front lines of Freedom and Truth, Clay Travis

948
00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 2: and Buck Sexton, Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show.

949
00:49:33,200 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. We are

950
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: here in the Nashville studio and we are joined now

951
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 2: by Raymond de Royo.

952
00:49:41,800 --> 00:49:44,000
Speaker 3: Let me just mention this as we bring in Raymond.

953
00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 2: House Oversight Committee says an FBI whistleblower has provided evidence

954
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:54,919
Speaker 2: that Joe Biden as Vice president was accepting payouts from

955
00:49:55,000 --> 00:50:00,480
Speaker 2: foreign nationals in exchange for policy decisions that coming down

956
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: from the House Oversight Committee. In the last fifteen minutes.

957
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:07,080
Speaker 2: We'll see where exactly it goes, but I just want

958
00:50:07,200 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 2: to let everybody that know that that's going on. Raymond,

959
00:50:10,239 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 2: you are in town here in Nashville where Buck and

960
00:50:12,360 --> 00:50:14,839
Speaker 2: I are doing the show, and I was just flipping through.

961
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,080
Speaker 3: This is really cool. You have written a.

962
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:20,880
Speaker 2: Kid's book and it's called The Unexpected Light of Thomas

963
00:50:21,120 --> 00:50:25,040
Speaker 2: Alva Edison, and it's about struggles.

964
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 3: And when Edison was a young kid. It's really a

965
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,160
Speaker 3: cool story.

966
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:31,480
Speaker 5: Well it's a story I didn't know anything about. I

967
00:50:31,640 --> 00:50:33,880
Speaker 5: stumbled across a quote from Edicone in one of these

968
00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:37,279
Speaker 5: big doorstop biographies we never read, and in the back

969
00:50:37,360 --> 00:50:40,399
Speaker 5: it says, my mother was the making of me. If

970
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,200
Speaker 5: not for her devotion and faith in me at a

971
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 5: certain time, I would never have become an inventor. Edison

972
00:50:46,480 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 5: said that to multiple interviewers at the end of his life,

973
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 5: and I thought, wait a minute, who is this mother

974
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,120
Speaker 5: and why haven't I ever heard of her? Well, when

975
00:50:53,120 --> 00:50:56,319
Speaker 5: I started digging, I realized Edison, at eight years old,

976
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,759
Speaker 5: was thrown out of school. The schoolmaster said he's an

977
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,840
Speaker 5: it and can't be taught. His father said he was

978
00:51:02,880 --> 00:51:06,000
Speaker 5: a dunce because he was a very withdrawn child, probably

979
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:09,320
Speaker 5: had ADHD. We know he was death by twelve, but

980
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 5: his mother had belief in him, saw the curiosity, took

981
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 5: him home and homeschooled him. I frankly don't know why

982
00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:20,480
Speaker 5: Edison today isn't the patron saint of homeschooling, because look

983
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,480
Speaker 5: at what this guy created. That was the end of

984
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 5: his formal schooling with his mother, and she allowed him

985
00:51:25,719 --> 00:51:27,560
Speaker 5: to do something we should remember with our own kids,

986
00:51:27,600 --> 00:51:30,879
Speaker 5: and that I discovered through writing this book. A child

987
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 5: learns with their eyes and their head, yes, but most

988
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 5: importantly with their hands and their feet. Edison learned both ways.

989
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 5: He absorbed the theory of electricity and the science of

990
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,320
Speaker 5: the time. Then he tinkered, and he played, and he pulled,

991
00:51:43,360 --> 00:51:47,520
Speaker 5: and he changed, and he played with the challenges before him.

992
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 5: And he often said giving up is the worst weakness

993
00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:52,080
Speaker 5: in American life.

994
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:52,960
Speaker 3: Giving up.

995
00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:56,200
Speaker 5: He never gave up, and that's why he was allowed

996
00:51:56,280 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 5: and able to create the phonograph and the mic phones.

997
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:06,919
Speaker 5: We're talking on the telegraph, receptors in alkaline batteries, things

998
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:10,160
Speaker 5: we take for granted, the first motion picture camera. All

999
00:52:10,239 --> 00:52:13,160
Speaker 5: of this was Thomas Alva Edison. And I call this

1000
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,680
Speaker 5: a turnabout tail. It's the first book in this series

1001
00:52:16,080 --> 00:52:20,680
Speaker 5: because we all face obstacles, we all face these hues, challenges,

1002
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 5: and in the case of Edison and in our lives,

1003
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:25,759
Speaker 5: the obstacle is not the end of your journey. It's

1004
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,440
Speaker 5: the portal to your future and your destiny if you

1005
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,840
Speaker 5: make the right decision in it. And he and his

1006
00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 5: mother made the right decision when he was thrown out

1007
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 5: of school at eight. The book is the unexpected light

1008
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 5: of Thomas Alva Edison. Raymond Arroyo, the author. He's with

1009
00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:42,800
Speaker 5: us here now in studio. You were just mentioning off we're.

1010
00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:46,880
Speaker 3: Talking off Mike off Mike now, but you were just

1011
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 3: you were mentioning before.

1012
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:49,920
Speaker 1: How cool it is to go and see some of

1013
00:52:50,000 --> 00:52:54,560
Speaker 1: the great Edison historic locations, and I think it's fun

1014
00:52:54,560 --> 00:52:56,280
Speaker 1: for us, So I like to nerd out with that stuff.

1015
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: I now I know I'm going to have negotiations with

1016
00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,360
Speaker 1: my wife going forward about because.

1017
00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:01,400
Speaker 3: I want to.

1018
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:02,800
Speaker 1: I'm like, let's go to Malta. She's like, why do

1019
00:53:02,800 --> 00:53:03,960
Speaker 1: you want to go to Malta. I'm like, because I

1020
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:06,239
Speaker 1: want to see the siege fortifications highly but you know,

1021
00:53:06,640 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 1: also good food and pretty stuff. But it sounds like

1022
00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 1: this is a thing. I mean, this is obviously a

1023
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:13,560
Speaker 1: book you're gearing toward younger younger readers and parents can

1024
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:18,800
Speaker 1: get family read family family read right, but also family visits.

1025
00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 1: What are some of the great locations? Because I feel

1026
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,480
Speaker 1: like you mentioned the being able to feel the stuff,

1027
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:27,719
Speaker 1: to see and touch and feel some of what Edison's

1028
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: life was would be really interesting.

1029
00:53:29,600 --> 00:53:32,320
Speaker 5: Well, Buck, as a writer, nothing fills you more and

1030
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 5: put you in the moment than going to those places.

1031
00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:35,400
Speaker 3: So I went to all of them.

1032
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:38,480
Speaker 5: And by the way, there's the retirement home or the

1033
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:41,040
Speaker 5: summer home of Edison that Henry Ford and he shared

1034
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 5: in Fort Myers, which is really cool, and they have

1035
00:53:43,880 --> 00:53:44,640
Speaker 5: a chemistry lab.

1036
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,160
Speaker 2: The private which you saw kids there. Yeah, I took

1037
00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:49,719
Speaker 2: my kids. We were just in Fort Myers last week.

1038
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,120
Speaker 2: It is the winter home of Edison. The vegetation you know,

1039
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,920
Speaker 2: he putantible, you know, the these trees from all over

1040
00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:59,160
Speaker 2: the world, and the labs are there.

1041
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:00,560
Speaker 3: It's a really cool thing.

1042
00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 2: If you're down in the South Florida area and you're

1043
00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:05,839
Speaker 2: looking for something a little bit educational that your kids

1044
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 2: would also enjoy, it's pretty fantastic.

1045
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 5: And the West Orange Facility, the Edison labs there. This

1046
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 5: is the lab he built and that's where light bulbs

1047
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 5: were produced. He refined the phonograph there. He recorded hundreds

1048
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,920
Speaker 5: of artists on the second floor for his own record label.

1049
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 5: By the way, we're here in music City. The guy

1050
00:54:24,320 --> 00:54:27,960
Speaker 5: who created music, recorded music is Edison. He had his

1051
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 5: first record label. Hundreds of artists and orchestras went up there.

1052
00:54:31,840 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 5: Here's the cool thing. You can't see it. It's not

1053
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:37,759
Speaker 5: on display, but I've seen it at other places. He

1054
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:39,800
Speaker 5: attached a piece of wood to the bottom of the

1055
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,520
Speaker 5: phonograph and he would bite down on that piece of

1056
00:54:42,560 --> 00:54:44,800
Speaker 5: wood because he was deaf. That's how he heard the

1057
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 5: music that was recorded. You can see though that music

1058
00:54:48,000 --> 00:54:50,160
Speaker 5: room with the big horn that he listened to music

1059
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 5: on there. It is untouched since nineteen thirty one when

1060
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:56,360
Speaker 5: he died. So to walk through that is really to

1061
00:54:56,560 --> 00:55:02,600
Speaker 5: touch American innovation, American know how American stick touitiveness. And

1062
00:55:02,760 --> 00:55:05,480
Speaker 5: that's what the story of the Unexpected Light of Thomas

1063
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 5: Alva Edison touches for me. But when I talk to kids,

1064
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,160
Speaker 5: so many kids with ADHD or learning difficulties, they said, well,

1065
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 5: I can't do this, so I I don't learn the

1066
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 5: way my friends do. Neither did Edison, and he was

1067
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,320
Speaker 5: the greatest innovator of the time. And that's all I

1068
00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 5: want kids to take away. If they just take that,

1069
00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:27,120
Speaker 5: and if parents realize you have a huge responsibility to

1070
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:30,640
Speaker 5: nurture the light within that child. That's what Nancy Edison did.

1071
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,040
Speaker 5: And we're still basking in the globe what Edison gave us,

1072
00:55:34,120 --> 00:55:38,839
Speaker 5: in fact right now literally basking yea and communicating via

1073
00:55:39,080 --> 00:55:40,240
Speaker 5: the microphone he created.

1074
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:42,160
Speaker 1: Now I have to ask, I know this isn't I

1075
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,920
Speaker 1: would assume in the scope of the book, But how

1076
00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Speaker 1: do you break down because you've done all this research

1077
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 1: into Edison And by the way, the I'm.

1078
00:55:48,560 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 3: Not going to bring up Tesla. Are you Buck, You.

1079
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:56,879
Speaker 1: And everybody else bring up Tesla versus Team Edison ac.

1080
00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,919
Speaker 3: DC, you know the experiments and all stuff. You seem

1081
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 3: very I don't know, man, this is like Alabama Auburn.

1082
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 2: The Fox point when I tweeted that I was at

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Speaker 2: the Fort Fort Myers Edison Place, and I think I

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Speaker 2: put up a picture of all the.

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Speaker 5: I'm going to set Let me set the records. Yes,

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Speaker 5: First of all, I'm dealing with young Thomas Alva. Tesla

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Speaker 5: wasn't even born when this happened. Okay, but this is

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Speaker 5: an important lesson here that young people and families can gather. However,

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Speaker 5: let me settle now. Some of you Tesla people are

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Speaker 5: going to get upset with me, But look, Musco already

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Speaker 5: gave Tesla his due.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 5: Tesla was hired by Thomas Alva Edison, who we should say, long.

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Speaker 3: Before Tesla came around or anybody even knew who.

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Speaker 5: The hell Tesla was. Thomas Alva Edison was an international name.

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Speaker 5: He had an office.

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Speaker 3: He was so big.

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Speaker 5: He had an office in Paris that was developing an

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Speaker 5: electrical grid, and he hired an engineer by the name

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Speaker 5: of Tesla to come work for him. He paid Tesla

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Speaker 5: to find the Dynamo, which he did, and Tesla said,

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Speaker 5: he didn't pay me as much as I was entitled

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Speaker 5: to it. Well, I might think my employer's not paying

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Speaker 5: me enough either.

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Speaker 3: The club.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, but you're an employee. You're putting your work in.

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Speaker 5: And so Tesla went off in a huff. He banded

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Speaker 5: together with Westinghouse George Westinghouse, and together they challenged Thomas

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Speaker 5: Edison's direct current as opposed to alternating current.

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Speaker 3: Well, he won. Tesla won the war. The current war

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Speaker 3: was won by Tesla.

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Speaker 5: But George Westinghouse put the screws to Tesla, So go

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Speaker 5: throw nasty comments at Westinghouse. Edison was a guy who

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Speaker 5: hired Tesla, and yes, Edison at times could pirate technology

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Speaker 5: and refine it and then patented himself. There's no talking

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Speaker 5: that away. But I'm sorry Tesla did not give Edison

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Speaker 5: every invention that he has known.

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Speaker 3: This kind of mirrors for me a little bit. Some

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Speaker 3: of our callers with the trump to say this think

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Speaker 3: of like Edison. Tesla feels like that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Well, people like these teams, you know, whether it's twilight

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Speaker 5: or a football game, they somehow everybody's got to choose

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Speaker 5: the team. Take the good from both of the men.

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Speaker 5: They were both incredible inventors, but Edison. The lasting nature

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Speaker 5: of what Edison created is really unmatched.

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Speaker 3: So incredible.

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Speaker 2: Sounds like a fantastic book. I think you're doing signings, right,

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Speaker 2: I am. I'm doing signings. In fact, I'm at the

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Speaker 2: Barnes and Noble Cool Springs on Saturday morning in Nashville

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Speaker 2: and Brentwood near you, at eleven am on Saturday.

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Speaker 3: I hope people will come out.

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Speaker 5: I'll be signing and talking and please, We're only going

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Speaker 5: to have a very limited Tesla mud wrestling match.

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Speaker 1: Tesla stands a very long with their Tesla T shirts

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Speaker 1: and their electric vehicles.

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Speaker 3: And you know eleven am Central here in Brentwood. If

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Speaker 5: Cool Springs, benn And by the way, you know who

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Speaker 5: created the first electric car ever devise?

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Speaker 1: I would assume it would be our buddy Edison.

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Speaker 5: Thomas Edison. He was friends with Henry Ford. He said,

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Speaker 5: I can an electric version of this.

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Speaker 3: He did it.

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Speaker 5: Henry Ford said it's too much to replicate these batteries. No,

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Speaker 5: we're not going to do it, and canned kill the

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Speaker 5: electric car. That's how far reaching this guy was. And

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Speaker 5: he was a tinker. He wasn't even a learned guy.

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Speaker 5: He was a workman, a craftsman, and deliberate about creation.

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Speaker 3: It's like the Leonardo da Vinci of West Orange, New Jersey.

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Speaker 5: You got it, the Wizard of Menlo Park, alright.

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