Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison, loren Zema coming to you. Happy New Year, everybody.
Speaker 1: I hope your new year has started off great. It
Speaker 1: has been a wonderful year for us thus far.
Speaker 2: I just found a false eyelash stuck to my shirt.
Speaker 1: So that's what's happening in twenty twenty four, you know,
Speaker 1: starting off with a real bang.
Speaker 3: I find these everywhere and then sometimes I think they're spiders.
Speaker 1: Is anybody else like elz where you know she essentially
Speaker 1: has like a tackle box full of eyelashes, Like is
Speaker 1: a year?
Speaker 4: You're a big heep?
Speaker 2: People aren't doing that? I recommend it.
Speaker 3: First of all, you can get false eyelash cases on Amazon,
Speaker 3: which is incredible because I'm a big dirty lash babe.
Speaker 3: You can reuse those, Okay, pick the glue off or don't.
Speaker 3: Sometimes the glue gives it a little more added structure,
Speaker 3: the elder glue. But I love an elder lash, a
Speaker 3: vintage strip.
Speaker 4: So I actually took wine you wanted to pack. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Now, the cases that you can get on Amazon, some
Speaker 3: of them actually have the shapes.
Speaker 2: You can form your lash back to the shape, which
Speaker 2: is great.
Speaker 3: But if you don't want to go that route because
Speaker 3: it takes a little time, it's a little more time
Speaker 3: incent and intensive to put the lash back.
Speaker 2: On the curvature. I literally buy a tackle box.
Speaker 3: I keep my earrings and I keep false eyelashes in
Speaker 3: a plastic box that's supposed.
Speaker 2: To be for like bait and tackle stuff.
Speaker 4: No, it makes sense. I mean they're very use.
Speaker 1: I'm just curious that, like if you know you can
Speaker 1: leave your comments at the most dramatic pod but ever,
Speaker 1: But I was just curious because you know you're you're
Speaker 1: a big lash person.
Speaker 4: I was like, I don't want.
Speaker 3: To ask you a really honest question, Huh, how do
Speaker 3: you feel when you see me without fake eyelashes on?
Speaker 4: Now?
Speaker 3: Because I I just feel like I'm two different people.
Speaker 3: But I'm okay with that. Do you feel like I'm
Speaker 3: two different people with an eyelash on?
Speaker 1: Or I feel like it gives you power. It's like armor,
Speaker 1: It's a you thing, Like it gives you power, and
Speaker 1: I think you feel it. You know, like if you're
Speaker 1: in a great outfit, you know you have that perfect
Speaker 1: black dress or whatever it is, and you know that's
Speaker 1: it's your go to it's your money outfit. We all
Speaker 1: have it. That that great shirt or that great pair
Speaker 1: of boots. What's your armor for me?
Speaker 4: It's a great suit. I love a good suit. Yeah,
Speaker 4: suit and tie. I feel good.
Speaker 3: You do. You have an added air of confidence. It's
Speaker 3: your home base.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel and it's why you know I obviously
Speaker 1: I did it for many, many years.
Speaker 3: It's interesting you yeah, you really, You've probably spent so
Speaker 3: much of your life in a suit, given the hours
Speaker 3: of filming.
Speaker 1: But it also goes back to my family, my grandfather,
Speaker 1: who I looked up to very much, as you know,
Speaker 1: like he was a clothes hound and he loved suits
Speaker 1: and ties. And I would go into his closet and
Speaker 1: pick out ties. And obviously, you know, my cousin owns
Speaker 1: Ken's Manshop in Dallas, and that's the habit ashery I
Speaker 1: go to and like we we love clothes in our family,
Speaker 1: and then find men's wear and I love that.
Speaker 4: That is my power. That's where I feel well.
Speaker 2: Habit ashery.
Speaker 1: No, I wouldn't even try because I might be able to,
Speaker 1: but I would.
Speaker 3: You love to say it. Oh yeah, all right, it's
Speaker 3: the new year, yes, babe. We haven't asked each other
Speaker 3: this do you have a New Year's resolution.
Speaker 4: I'm not a resolution person. I'm really not.
Speaker 2: I've never had a processing that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never It's nothing, not much resolve. Well, it's
Speaker 1: not that I don't know, that's not true. It's not
Speaker 1: that I don't have goals.
Speaker 2: I have a ton of results.
Speaker 1: I have a lot of goals in mind and things
Speaker 1: I like to accomplish.
Speaker 3: You know what my thought on it is. I think
Speaker 3: it's often setting yourself up to fail. I don't know,
Speaker 3: and it's like we all have all this energy and
Speaker 3: then you just feel like crap in February when you
Speaker 3: haven't done it all.
Speaker 1: Well, look at the gym this week. If you go
Speaker 1: to a gym, Sure your gym is four x the
Speaker 1: population this week. Because I was like the new you
Speaker 1: and all that. And my suggestion is to your point,
Speaker 1: don't set yourself self up to fail. Set yourself up
Speaker 1: to succeed. Do things that are bite size and digestible.
Speaker 1: You know, don't if you're not going to keep up
Speaker 1: with it, if you're not this type of person, don't
Speaker 1: get up at four am and go to Johnny's boot
Speaker 1: camp and you know you're being electrocuted and you're climbing
Speaker 1: over barbed wire. That's if that's not you, don't do
Speaker 1: that because that's not sustainable.
Speaker 4: Do something you are going to stick with.
Speaker 3: Get so mad at myself that I can't remember this
Speaker 3: book right now. I read this great book a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago about habit forming.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what is it?
Speaker 4: Thirty days?
Speaker 3: No, it's it's this guy really gets into the science
Speaker 3: of forming habits, Like because I do believe, for example,
Speaker 3: in the power of your mind, and like, if you
Speaker 3: think something over and over again, I think it's more
Speaker 3: likely to happen if you think about it, if you
Speaker 3: get yourself to do it. And he talks about these
Speaker 3: small ways of forming habits and how much more powerful
Speaker 3: that is. Like if you say my new year's resolution
Speaker 3: is I'm going to write a book, that's a lot
Speaker 3: harder and a lot less likely to be achieved than
Speaker 3: it is to say my new year's resolution is every
Speaker 3: morning I'm going to write one fat Like, that's a
Speaker 3: lot more achievable.
Speaker 1: Set an action you can accomplish. And if you do
Speaker 1: that in the conventional thought is thirty days breaks or
Speaker 1: makes a habit. If you can do something for a month,
Speaker 1: you will continue.
Speaker 2: Your comic habits.
Speaker 4: That's the post you're more likely to continue.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, that's a great book.
Speaker 2: You've read it.
Speaker 1: I have pulled things out of that book, and that
Speaker 1: book I think is part of the thirty day Process.
Speaker 3: By James Clear. Gosh, wow, I'm still learning things about
Speaker 3: you now. We might not have New Year's resolutions, but
Speaker 3: I am going to do a dry January situation.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I would be right there with you,
Speaker 1: and I would do a fast as well.
Speaker 3: You know what I realized it was doing prepping for
Speaker 3: the wedding. When I took about a month off from
Speaker 3: it and I didn't even go a full month without drinking.
Speaker 3: I changed it to I'd allow myself like one glass
Speaker 3: of wine a week. I really felt great, and so
Speaker 3: I think that reset is good.
Speaker 1: The big headline that we should get into, Oh yes,
Speaker 1: is sleeping in separate bedrooms.
Speaker 4: Oh.
Speaker 3: I didn't think that was where you're going with that.
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people are looking for you
Speaker 3: to weigh in on some other breaking news.
Speaker 2: Yes, but first let's talk about it. Okay.
Speaker 3: We got sent these articles by several people, including our
Speaker 3: producer Kendall. A lot of celebrities talking about sleeping in
Speaker 3: separate bedrooms lately, including Cameron Diaz, who I don't think
Speaker 3: does sleep in separate bedrooms with her husband Benji Madden,
Speaker 3: but they've been married since twenty fifteen, and she said
Speaker 3: that she wishes it would be normalized to sleep in
Speaker 3: separate bedrooms or maybe even in separate houses. Well, I
Speaker 3: remember Gwyneth Paltrow when she was kind of I think
Speaker 3: only because they had different their own kids and they
Speaker 3: were kind of transitioning into living together. She talked about
Speaker 3: with her husband Brad how they were in separate houses
Speaker 3: for a long time time. Dean McDermott just came out
Speaker 3: and was talking about how his split with Tory Spelling
Speaker 3: was largely affected because she like let their pets.
Speaker 2: In the bedroom a lot.
Speaker 3: So, I you know, that becomes a question who is
Speaker 3: allowed in your marital bedroom, including should your own spouse
Speaker 3: be we sleep in the same bed babe?
Speaker 2: Should we split up?
Speaker 1: No? Why I'm not at you like I get for
Speaker 1: maybe medical purposes or whatever, you need to sleep in
Speaker 1: separate beds or whatever.
Speaker 3: The Queen of England and Prince Philip, you know, always
Speaker 3: slept in separate bedrooms really together of a long time
Speaker 3: and there's you.
Speaker 1: Know, lots of rumors about things that happened in the
Speaker 1: West wing as well, But I think those are arrangements.
Speaker 1: It's not a I think a happy marriage is a
Speaker 1: happy home and is a happy bedroom and sleeping together.
Speaker 3: I cannot imagine living in the same house and going
Speaker 3: into separate bedrooms.
Speaker 4: All right, I'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 2: I feel like i'd miss you.
Speaker 3: I want to cuddle with you. I mean sometimes we
Speaker 3: fall asleep just like with a foot touching each other,
Speaker 3: or this is so deevy, but holding hands or I
Speaker 3: think that that physical touch and affection is so important.
Speaker 1: And I know there's a lot of women out there going.
Speaker 1: You don't know how bad my husband snores, right, I
Speaker 1: would throw him into another house or off a cliff.
Speaker 3: Carson Daley has said he has sleep apnea, so he
Speaker 3: says for him and his wife, it's been important because
Speaker 3: he has a sleep apnea machine in order for her
Speaker 3: to sleep well, she has to go into another room.
Speaker 3: I will say, I see the desire to like maintain
Speaker 3: the feel of dating. One thing that stuck with me.
Speaker 3: Drinda Medley, formerly of Real Housewives of New York. She
Speaker 3: said once that her and her husband, Richard, used to
Speaker 3: do a surprise date night every single week, like they
Speaker 3: would plan and the other person wouldn't know what was planned.
Speaker 3: And they I think had an agreement that they always
Speaker 3: had to go to a restaurant they'd never tried before.
Speaker 3: And they lived in New York, so that was a
Speaker 3: little easier. But they did a new and surprising date
Speaker 3: every single week, and I love that, and I was thinking,
Speaker 3: you know, maybe that's in New Year's resolution. I think
Speaker 3: we could try a different restaurant in Austin every week
Speaker 3: and not repeat for a long time.
Speaker 1: We always say that when we're in New York. It's
Speaker 1: like we hate to repeat things in New York as
Speaker 1: much as we love the restaurants, because there's always something new.
Speaker 3: I think that you are very fresh. Life is going
Speaker 3: to become. You know, your your safe place and your
Speaker 3: box you play in, so you gotta try a new things.
Speaker 1: We're anti separate bedrooms, definitely anti separate houses. That makes
Speaker 1: that just makes no sense. You're not married, just.
Speaker 3: You could be like picking your spouse up for a
Speaker 3: date at their houses.
Speaker 1: That's right, that's just no, that's nonsensical. It's bizarre. You're
Speaker 1: living in two houses. But what do you think about
Speaker 1: two different toilets. So we were just at a party,
Speaker 1: at a house part. I don't know if you noticed this,
Speaker 1: because I'm a snoop going through the house and they
Speaker 1: had his.
Speaker 4: In her toilets.
Speaker 1: Oh they Oh, no, there was his in her closets
Speaker 1: and then eat by their closets.
Speaker 4: They had each of they had their own come up.
Speaker 3: Yes, like shared a bathroom, Yes, had counters in the
Speaker 3: same bathroom, but then had each their own little water closet.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's not necessary to me.
Speaker 3: I think what's most important if you can have it,
Speaker 3: is a closed door to your toilet. But I don't
Speaker 3: think I need to closed door toilets have the same bathroom.
Speaker 4: One more question, do you this?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 4: No, I don't think so. I don't think you need two.
Speaker 1: Okay, this person had a urinal the male side had
Speaker 1: he had a traditional toilet, and then he literally had
Speaker 1: a urinal like you would see it. All.
Speaker 2: That's a you question, do you need a urinal?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I mean I get I guess I get the ease
Speaker 1: of it, but I just it was I saw it,
Speaker 1: and I go, oh.
Speaker 2: A home urinalme churinl Yeah, a year a home.
Speaker 1: I had a here's this true, Storgio, I had a
Speaker 1: former family member. He had a urinal in his house.
Speaker 1: He also he worked in his garage a lot. He
Speaker 1: had one in his garage.
Speaker 4: He's like, well, I don't want to go.
Speaker 2: Why do you just go outside on a tree?
Speaker 4: Right now? That's that's true. Who you can You're already
Speaker 4: out there?
Speaker 2: Ye yeah, well you have.
Speaker 3: That was a really hot take for me. I didn't
Speaker 3: know you were so strongly against separate bedrooms.
Speaker 4: Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: Now I think it's important that you stick together. Well,
Speaker 1: I think you get a lot of things done at
Speaker 1: the at the end of the.
Speaker 2: Day, at the end of the night's bedroom.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, obviously you get a lot of things done,
Speaker 1: and I think it would but even after even after
Speaker 1: you got those things done to say okay, high five,
Speaker 1: and you go your separate ways.
Speaker 3: I think about my mom, for example, my mom is
Speaker 3: much more of that generation, like she didn't really like
Speaker 3: my dad us here without makeup on, you know. She
Speaker 3: like my mom and dad would in our house, my
Speaker 3: dad would kind of use the guest bathroom or and
Speaker 3: they would have totally separate bathrooms and be a bit
Speaker 3: more separate, Like, I think this is a newer construct
Speaker 3: and I would be interested, like, why do you think
Speaker 3: it's happened?
Speaker 2: Why have we moved towards so much togetherness.
Speaker 4: Because it's impossible to buy a house now. No one
Speaker 4: just has to interest rates or at six percent, no
Speaker 4: one can afford it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, but you're even in the tiny house that
Speaker 1: I grew up in. My parents were kind of the same.
Speaker 1: They did they had different bathrooms, they didn't share, they didn't.
Speaker 4: Have his and hers. Our bathrooms weren't big enough for that.
Speaker 4: But yeah, it is interesting.
Speaker 1: It is maybe more of a modern thing that we're
Speaker 1: more on top of each other, more together.
Speaker 3: And I think it might be something interesting about like
Speaker 3: needing your partner to be everything for you. I'm really
Speaker 3: getting deep now, but your you know, we were we
Speaker 3: talked about that in another episode, that like, your partner
Speaker 3: doesn't have to be everything for you. You can get
Speaker 3: fulfillment from friends and from family and mentors and you know,
Speaker 3: but you can share a bathroom but don't have to
Speaker 3: have two separate toilets. That's my big take away. I
Speaker 3: didn't think I was going to go so deep on this.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: Let me switch to a headline that I actually want
Speaker 3: to know your thoughts on because you and I have
Speaker 3: never discussed it. Daniel Craig, Ashton Kutcher, Yes, and more
Speaker 3: celebrity parents have spoken out as of late. Anderson Cooper
Speaker 3: Bill Gates had famously waited on this on not leaving
Speaker 3: their children inheritances, Daniel Craig, James Bond says, I don't
Speaker 3: want to leave great sums to the next generation. My
Speaker 3: philosophy is get rid of it, give it away before
Speaker 3: you go. Ashton Kutcher has said he is not. He
Speaker 3: and Mila Kunis are not setting up trusts for their kids.
Speaker 3: They're going to give all their money away to charity.
Speaker 3: Anderson Cooper, who is from a rich family the Vanderbilts,
Speaker 3: said that he does not intend to leave a quote
Speaker 3: pot of gold for his son. Where do you fall
Speaker 3: on that and leaving money to the kids. I don't
Speaker 3: even know if you've discussed this with them.
Speaker 1: It's well, I find it very interesting, and look, I
Speaker 1: understand where these people are coming from. I understand that
Speaker 1: gross amounts of wealth heaped upon somebody can do more
Speaker 1: harm than good. And again, I know everyone's sitting there thinking, hey,
Speaker 1: keep it on me. I'll take those problems. But I
Speaker 1: understand that. You know, there's a long list of problem
Speaker 1: children in the world who got rich quick or had
Speaker 1: so much money. You know, time is the devil's play shop,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of a lot of names on
Speaker 1: that line.
Speaker 3: I think it's very disunderstand it's more difficult than it.
Speaker 3: It's very difficult to raise a child with a ton
Speaker 3: of money and have them turn out great. Like it's
Speaker 3: a task.
Speaker 1: Yeah, But I think more importantly it's maybe I'm a
Speaker 1: glass half full person as opposed to worrying about what
Speaker 1: you're going to leave them. I'm more worried about with
Speaker 1: our kids. What am I teaching them? Am I teaching
Speaker 1: them the value of a dollar? Am I teaching them
Speaker 1: the value of being a hard working human being? Do
Speaker 1: they have drive? Do they want to achieve on their own?
Speaker 1: You know, I have such admiration for one of our
Speaker 1: very dear friends, Andrew Firestone, one of the most famous
Speaker 1: families and famous names in America, and you know, an
Speaker 1: American icon. Every one of his brother's sisters would ever
Speaker 1: have gone on to do great things. That entrepreneurial spirit.
Speaker 1: How do I instill in them that drive to be
Speaker 1: giving people, to be caring, people to be driven.
Speaker 4: Hard working.
Speaker 1: That that, to me is more important than am I
Speaker 1: worried about giving them a million dollars later on? Because
Speaker 1: if I've done the work, then it doesn't matter what
Speaker 1: I give them later. They're going to use that for good.
Speaker 1: They'll use it to build a business, they'll use it
Speaker 1: to hire people, they'll use it to give to charity.
Speaker 1: So it's more important what's the human being I'm raising
Speaker 1: as opposed to I've done a crappy job.
Speaker 4: I don't want to give them fifty million dollars. Screw them.
Speaker 1: And look a lot of these people too, I'm like,
Speaker 1: were you entitled? Did you grow up under that nice
Speaker 1: silver spoon and now you just don't want to give
Speaker 1: it to them?
Speaker 2: I completely agree.
Speaker 3: I think that. I think you just said it so well.
Speaker 3: I can't imagine. Especially, I mean, you were joking before
Speaker 3: about how much housees cost today. I think it's I
Speaker 3: think it's easier said than done to like say, hey,
Speaker 3: figure it out, you know, like I look at you know,
Speaker 3: my grandparents, for example, grew up with very little and
Speaker 3: didn't even have high school educations. Moved to Chicago when
Speaker 3: they were teenagers to try to find work. Now, eventually
Speaker 3: they through hard work, they were able to buy a
Speaker 3: home in Chicago and start a business, and they.
Speaker 2: Built a beautiful life. It's I think it's.
Speaker 3: Really hard today to buy a starter home in Chicago,
Speaker 3: you know. And so if you've worked hard and you
Speaker 3: have money and you can remove some of those obstacles,
Speaker 3: well yeah, I mean it's really difficult to be a
Speaker 3: young person starting out today.
Speaker 1: And and I don't know these celebrities we're talking about,
Speaker 1: but at the same time, those children are growing up
Speaker 1: on the Upper West Side, they're growing up in Beverly Hills,
Speaker 1: behind gates, They're going to private schools, they're going on
Speaker 1: the private jet to the ski trips they're going So
Speaker 1: they've already been living this life. If you haven't done
Speaker 1: the work with them now, it doesn't matter what you're
Speaker 1: giving them when you pass away.
Speaker 3: Also, like you know, I kind of question these quotes.
Speaker 3: It's like, what are are we really talking about nothing?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 2: Or are you just like I'm not going to leave
Speaker 2: them everything.
Speaker 1: Well, they're not getting a one hundred million, They're only
Speaker 1: going to get forty five.
Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, Okay, Well, so.
Speaker 1: I disagree, and you and I agree on this, and
Speaker 1: that's why one of the reasons I love you, And
Speaker 1: it's your mom's famous quote, you do the work now,
Speaker 1: you put in the time now. If you haven't done
Speaker 1: the work now, while these kids are in private schools
Speaker 1: and doing it, they know, living the life with all
Speaker 1: their other rich friends and celebrity friends, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: They're what you're going to do to them later the
Speaker 1: that ship is sailed. Every parent knows that you got
Speaker 1: to put in the work now.
Speaker 2: Well, honey, happy New Year.
Speaker 3: And I think you know we talked at the end
Speaker 3: of the year over our Christmas dinner about everything we
Speaker 3: were so grateful for. We had a tradition of going
Speaker 3: around the table with your mom and with the kids
Speaker 3: and saying what we were so thankful for this year,
Speaker 3: and we both said, of course, our family being healthy,
Speaker 3: that's always our number one thing. But I am so
Speaker 3: grateful and we both said it that we had we
Speaker 3: got married this past year. I love starting the new
Speaker 3: year happily married. And I'm so happy and so blessed
Speaker 3: that we got the weddings that we got. And man,
Speaker 3: I just love you and I'm happy we found each
Speaker 3: other this is this is the best New Years start
Speaker 3: I've ever had.
Speaker 1: Mess It's going to be hard to be twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three because I had such good memories and I actually
Speaker 1: it was funny.
Speaker 4: I woke up the other day and I told Lauren.
Speaker 1: I said I'm kind of depressed, and she's like why,
Speaker 1: and I was like, because I want to. I want
Speaker 1: to do it all over again, Like I want to
Speaker 1: how do I recreate those parties? And she's like, well,
Speaker 1: an anniversary and I was like, yeah, but I mean,
Speaker 1: will it be the same of like getting everybody together?
Speaker 1: And of course it won't because you won't have the
Speaker 1: jetters and the but I just have such great memories.
Speaker 1: And one of the things I really appreciate is the
Speaker 1: people that were a part of that celebration all kind
Speaker 1: of say the same thing, and they keep reminding us
Speaker 1: of how beautiful it was. And so twenty twenty three
Speaker 1: ended on such a beautiful note. Twenty twenty four has
Speaker 1: started on such a beautiful note. I hope it has
Speaker 1: for all of you as well.
Speaker 4: And I love you.
Speaker 1: And this is going to be our first full year
Speaker 1: as husband and wife, first of many, the first of many.
Speaker 1: We love you, We love you all, and thank you all.
Speaker 1: If we didn't get a chance to talk to you,
Speaker 1: or maybe you weren't checking in on podcasts, thank you
Speaker 1: for a great twenty twenty three. It was the first
Speaker 1: for the Most Dramatic Podcast Ever, and we are happy
Speaker 1: to jump into twenty twenty four. We have some great interviews,
Speaker 1: we have some very exciting things coming up. We can't
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Speaker 1: have a.
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