WEBVTT - The City Of Dope Ft. Too Short 0:00:00.600 --> 0:00:08.280 Worldwide. Why from the Streets to the yard Gangster Mary, 0:00:10.400 --> 0:00:15.320 When I wrote y'all all across the USC Compton Watts, 0:00:15.920 --> 0:00:19.760 thank to l A from on the California, From Valley 0:00:19.800 --> 0:00:23.480 the valley. We represent that Kenny County. So if you're 0:00:23.520 --> 0:00:26.079 keeping it Reil on your side of your town, you 0:00:26.160 --> 0:00:31.160 tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gang Then the Goals. We're gonna 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:34.640 tell you how we go. If I lie my nose 0:00:34.680 --> 0:00:36.880 a girl like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you the truth 0:00:36.920 --> 0:00:40.760 and nothing but the truth, the chronic goals. This is 0:00:40.760 --> 0:00:44.640 not your average show. You're now tuned into the Reil 0:00:45.520 --> 0:00:49.559 m C eight, Big James and bixtails strictly from the streets. 0:00:50.040 --> 0:00:55.760 Hello jus from hood to hood or backyard of yours. 0:00:55.800 --> 0:00:57.800 We would like to welcome you to another episode of 0:00:57.800 --> 0:01:00.960 Against the Chronicles podcast with James. It's McDonald, m C 0:01:01.120 --> 0:01:03.800 eight and myself Norm Steel. You can listen to us 0:01:03.800 --> 0:01:06.160 on the I Heart Apple For iPhone users, go to 0:01:06.200 --> 0:01:09.440 the Apple podcast app subscribed. Dropped that five star rating 0:01:09.440 --> 0:01:11.880 and leave a comment. We had the privilege of having 0:01:11.880 --> 0:01:14.120 a pioneer in the building the night he stepped on 0:01:14.160 --> 0:01:15.880 the scene of nine eight three and has been a 0:01:15.920 --> 0:01:19.160 fixture in the game since then. Were twin two solo albums, 0:01:19.280 --> 0:01:21.920 nine platinum and gold plaques under this belt. The respect 0:01:21.920 --> 0:01:24.320 of his piers, North, South, East, and West, he has 0:01:24.480 --> 0:01:27.920 arguably the most successful rapper of all time. Yeah bitch 0:01:27.920 --> 0:01:30.320 has definitely made him rich, with a fan base that 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:33.280 developed by slinging mixtapes to the Pence players and hustlers 0:01:33.280 --> 0:01:36.360 in the streets of cocaine rich Oakland, California, known as 0:01:36.360 --> 0:01:38.680 the City of Dope. His career took flight when he 0:01:38.720 --> 0:01:41.600 linked up with Jerry Hodges, the younger brother of Oaktown 0:01:41.640 --> 0:01:45.039 Ballerteer Hawks, owner of seventy five Girls Records. So j 0:01:45.560 --> 0:01:48.080 basically was like, yeah, you know, my brother own a 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:50.520 record label, and everybody knew who his brother was. His 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:54.520 brother right by sitting every day riding by It's nive 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:58.160 zip by the bins. You know what I'm saying, Come 0:01:58.200 --> 0:02:00.480 back down the hill on the brand new catalect last 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:02.639 backed up in a different color catalec. We're like, okay, 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:04.400 we know where that nigg is. You know, he got 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:07.080 the he got the curl. Sometimes you like ride around 0:02:07.120 --> 0:02:10.880 with the colored rollers in his air, but sometimes he 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:13.359 just let it down and he'd just be way beyond 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.120 you like that. That's that nigga. But he was a 0:02:16.160 --> 0:02:21.120 lot of niggas. That's big time. You could connect into something. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:24.320 You're like they that stay boys, that's where they. He wasn't. 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:26.679 He wasn't a nigger like that. The Dean was a 0:02:26.760 --> 0:02:31.080 nigger who came up selling. Uh. He made all his 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:34.160 little cousins road joints for him and he'd get a 0:02:34.160 --> 0:02:36.760 big ass bag of we like appoualtweed or something nigger 0:02:36.840 --> 0:02:40.040 like twelve years old and make all his little cousins 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:43.320 road joints. And there was a joints they sold joints 0:02:43.360 --> 0:02:48.160 after the projects. He turned that into a motherfucking empire 0:02:48.240 --> 0:02:52.000 of his his own ship. But the plug he would 0:02:52.000 --> 0:02:54.840 funk with, he wasn't really like the mob. He just 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:58.400 was a nigga who had clientele. Like like his clientele 0:02:58.520 --> 0:03:01.079 was like his clientele. Wasn't you come to him? You 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:02.919 meet him where he say me meeting me? He wasn't 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:05.680 like running the organization, wasn't no staff and that he 0:03:05.760 --> 0:03:09.160 was just a baller so and he only so like 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:13.280 big ship. So Jerry checked me up there to meet 0:03:13.320 --> 0:03:17.120 his brother. You know, he kind of he's tried us 0:03:17.120 --> 0:03:19.680 to the left a little bit for a minute, and 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.040 then we double back again, like we never would have 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:23.640 got in if it wasn't for a little bro Like 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:26.680 that's his little brother same, I'm the same, Daddy and 0:03:27.160 --> 0:03:30.480 Jerry get us up in there. That should just that. 0:03:31.040 --> 0:03:35.760 Semi five girls changed my old entire life, like getting 0:03:35.800 --> 0:03:39.600 around Dean, getting around that hustle. He was a real 0:03:39.640 --> 0:03:43.800 fucking player, player player, like like real player, fucking this 0:03:43.800 --> 0:03:46.200 this kind of nigger that, Um, you find a stack 0:03:46.240 --> 0:03:50.480 of pictures, It's like naked pictures of all the bitches 0:03:50.480 --> 0:03:52.760 that you wish you had from all over the city, 0:03:52.880 --> 0:03:59.440 like d like, so that's that nigga. So he basically, um, 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:01.720 he really got me that player game. He gave me 0:04:01.760 --> 0:04:06.800 the game on how to make a record. He didn't 0:04:06.800 --> 0:04:08.640 know how to make a beat. Their mother couldn't wrap 0:04:08.680 --> 0:04:11.920 him and play instrument. But he he wouldn't make everybody 0:04:11.960 --> 0:04:14.280 teaching the game how to where you go to make 0:04:14.280 --> 0:04:16.920 the record, who you get to mix it, where do 0:04:16.960 --> 0:04:19.120 you go to get the artwork done in the in 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:21.000 the album cover, Where do you go to get the 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.440 ship master? Who who manufactures it? Who you take it 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:27.359 to the ship it out the distributor, the fucking and 0:04:27.400 --> 0:04:30.800 then who you can take it too directly and then 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:32.599 you go back like a paper round, just pick up 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:36.000 all the money. And I like, we did that ship 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.360 for two albums and then they gonna let me ride 0:04:38.440 --> 0:04:40.080 side by side. We used to We used to put 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.680 that come down in l a and bust moves. Uh 0:04:42.720 --> 0:04:44.640 pull up on niggas like ice tea and ship like. 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:48.000 He was really like Dean was a real player. And 0:04:49.839 --> 0:04:53.760 in the end it was a beautiful thing because I 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.560 come through his little brother. His mama ended up being 0:04:56.560 --> 0:04:59.040 like my mom and ship fucking it's a family thing. 0:04:59.080 --> 0:05:03.200 We never signed the contracts, so when he it was 0:05:03.279 --> 0:05:04.880 like a hobby to him, and he was like, man, 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:07.279 I'm through with y'all. We was in a cool position. 0:05:07.480 --> 0:05:11.120 He gave us the game and let us walk just free, 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:12.560 and we just did the same thing. He did it 0:05:12.600 --> 0:05:14.200 all over again. That's how That's how I got in 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.760 the game. We just duplicated where he showed us. We 0:05:16.760 --> 0:05:19.960 started dangerous music. It's the same fucking thing. And probably 0:05:20.160 --> 0:05:22.480 talked talked you talked to you some games I mean 0:05:23.360 --> 0:05:26.719 supposed to do with the youngsters coming up, Like literally 0:05:26.760 --> 0:05:28.960 we took like about ten racks man and knocked that 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:32.479 ship until about three hundred thousand over the summer sucking 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.800 around with with the with the independent hustle. So why 0:05:35.839 --> 0:05:38.080 did you just say that he's done? Was he hurt? 0:05:38.320 --> 0:05:42.240 Was something going on with him? So Dan had did 0:05:42.240 --> 0:05:43.680 it like a little He did like a little year 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:48.440 in jail in like eighties six. We started working around 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:51.400 eighty five and eighty seven when we shut it down. 0:05:51.440 --> 0:05:53.080 So he did like about a year. He came home 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:56.760 from the year, and uh, I felt like, man, like 0:05:56.800 --> 0:05:59.680 you know you're coming home, yo, yo, hustle kind of 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:01.839 get sat back a little bit and you're thinking, like 0:06:01.920 --> 0:06:03.839 ground level, I'm gonna build ship back up. He still 0:06:03.839 --> 0:06:06.280 had all the same plugs. I just feel like we 0:06:06.279 --> 0:06:07.840 was in the way. Man. He was like about to 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.080 get back on his grind and do his thing and 0:06:10.120 --> 0:06:12.000 that music. Ship. We was real dependent, you know what 0:06:12.040 --> 0:06:15.640 I mean. We was real like clinging and ship and 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:17.279 and needed ship. And we all up in the nigger 0:06:17.360 --> 0:06:19.920 house and nigga that's a little broad and honey, and 0:06:19.960 --> 0:06:22.120 we came with a lot. I looked back then, was 0:06:22.240 --> 0:06:24.000 like damn, but you're gonna You're gonna kick us out 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:26.120 of the game. But when we look back on and 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:28.400 there he gave us the game. So yeah, he figured 0:06:28.400 --> 0:06:29.719 he had talked to you all. Y'all need to know. 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:31.200 He was about to get back on his house. And 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:33.640 but yeah, yeah he got mad at me a little bro. 0:06:33.680 --> 0:06:35.160 I think he faked the whole thing. I think he 0:06:35.240 --> 0:06:37.240 just fake it, just fake like he was mad at us, 0:06:37.680 --> 0:06:41.200 like many fun out my ship. But we was free 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:43.600 to go. Man, that's cool. And that was a crucial 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.200 error back then. Man, that's Oakland apparently all that because 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.719 both cities had major king pians. Man, what did you 0:06:51.760 --> 0:06:55.040 see as far as Oakland? Man, who was the what 0:06:55.279 --> 0:06:58.200 impact the crack had on the community up there? Like, well, 0:06:59.040 --> 0:07:04.719 I'm high school eighty four, so I'm right there. Eighty 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.240 four is when somebody, you know, okay, look go you 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.000 eighty two eighty three. It's a whole lot of motherfucker's 0:07:12.000 --> 0:07:13.800 pulling up in their little bins or something. You know, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:17.360 you see like the older niggas and like niggas uh 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:19.800 maybe you know free basing and ship. Man. You know, 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:22.920 motherfucker would even say, yeah, you know, me and my beach, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:26.280 we'd be smoking. Man, I was I'm smuggling mother fucker 0:07:26.400 --> 0:07:28.000 was talking about that ship like it was ballers sh it. 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:35.000 So you're sitting there going that. So you're looking at 0:07:35.080 --> 0:07:37.880 you're looking at you nig saying free base and you're 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.680 looking at free basing. It's like a fly thing in 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.720 eighty three. So one day in eighty four, somebody goes 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:49.400 on such and such block they saw this ship. You 0:07:49.440 --> 0:07:51.400 can you could just get a piece of that ship 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.320 in free base for ten dollars. That's how the ship 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:58.000 was like marketed at first, and motherfucker's flopped to that ship. 0:07:58.040 --> 0:08:02.560 They ran so high school class eighty four. Niggas is like, 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:06.400 if you got a few thousand, you're doing good. You're 0:08:06.440 --> 0:08:08.920 doing good. You you're cool. You you got a little car, 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:10.920 you put some rams on your ship. You got a 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:12.440 little bit and your ship you keep. You keep a 0:08:12.440 --> 0:08:15.480 fucking rubber band with a hunting on top, looking like 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.240 you did somebody and ship. And you know, niggas respecting 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:21.000 that your hustle. You keep a few thousand the shoebox 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:28.240 under the bed. You're good. That's that's when that's so nigga. Right, 0:08:28.280 --> 0:08:30.119 you got a cool little car. You spent like twenty 0:08:30.720 --> 0:08:32.840 only puts some wheels on. You gotta pay you cool, 0:08:32.880 --> 0:08:34.920 got an earl shot pain job, whatever the fun, you're cool. 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:39.160 Niggas like respecting your your young hustle. Right after that, 0:08:40.160 --> 0:08:44.679 I remember just off one block like Plymouth. So many 0:08:44.760 --> 0:08:47.000 niggas got rich off that one block. And I'm not 0:08:47.040 --> 0:08:51.800 talking about niggas making a few hunt the niggas got richer. 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:55.400 And then it just just everywhere there used to be 0:08:55.440 --> 0:08:58.160 a they used to sell herold. When they used some 0:08:58.200 --> 0:09:01.400 motherfucking sell weed. It was what ever, all them ships 0:09:01.440 --> 0:09:03.839 turned out to be fucking cracks. I'm I mean, some 0:09:03.920 --> 0:09:06.400 niggas opened up shopping an apartments. When you start getting real. 0:09:06.960 --> 0:09:09.760 That had the two apartments where you could just you know, 0:09:09.800 --> 0:09:12.040 come into gatness. It's the only one, you know, the 0:09:12.120 --> 0:09:14.520 one way in, one way out. They let that man. 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.240 Niggas got that ship popping. The other nigga showed up, 0:09:18.960 --> 0:09:20.960 not a few niggas down. That's when the ship started. 0:09:21.040 --> 0:09:23.720 It's just it's just it was like, give me your ship. 0:09:23.800 --> 0:09:25.600 Y'all ain't even toughen if they had just give me 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.600 give me your apartments, like it just boosted everything. Then 0:09:31.160 --> 0:09:36.040 high high schools, the money for yeah, just hanging on 0:09:36.080 --> 0:09:38.760 the block. Man, if I didn't go to school and 0:09:38.800 --> 0:09:42.280 ship school, I think I really, I'm shutting dope. That 0:09:42.360 --> 0:09:43.960 was the way to get it. But that ship turned 0:09:43.960 --> 0:09:47.560 into like like before that, it was like someone put 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:50.240 them up ship. Look you know, let's sling it out 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.040 or whatever. After that, it was like little niggas like 0:09:53.360 --> 0:09:55.880 this little nigga, you know, be a little nigga, like 0:09:55.960 --> 0:09:57.439 I think it was a market in high school. That 0:09:57.520 --> 0:10:00.040 nigga was like a boss after that crack because you 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:02.600 give got so much money and had a little army 0:10:02.640 --> 0:10:05.199 and ship like that, and it's a boss now and 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:08.520 then't gonna get you hurt, you know, And that's still 0:10:08.559 --> 0:10:11.640 going on today. Money gives something a certain courage. But 0:10:11.880 --> 0:10:15.240 it was a long run of a lot of different 0:10:15.320 --> 0:10:20.760 rules before you know, the fucking clips and the fullies 0:10:20.800 --> 0:10:22.560 and ship. It was a whole different run of like 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:26.360 street like that wasn't a crack crack, fun up the 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:33.640 funk up pool, a little liquor and roll something up. Chronicles, 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:39.040 We'll be right back where are you at? This is 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:43.360 o G Gangster Granny and the Gangster Chronicles podcast is 0:10:43.559 --> 0:10:46.520 back in effect. Get ready for some of that G 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:52.880 Ship and Blaze up. Some wanna marrow everything. Let me 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:55.560 ask you this, um, and this is mostly for chances 0:10:55.559 --> 0:10:59.760 for you too too. What's the difference? You think it 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.360 stid the different Like you think you hit comp in 0:11:02.400 --> 0:11:05.120 the same way. Game. It's different, but you got the 0:11:05.160 --> 0:11:09.319 same results it hit everything was. Everything is gonna be 0:11:09.400 --> 0:11:12.280 different because the way they got down in Oakland, the 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:15.560 way you get down in Chicago is totally different. The 0:11:15.559 --> 0:11:19.280 way they wrapped their ship, the way they sell it. Um. 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.600 Like in Compton, you had thirty month pucker's like on 0:11:22.640 --> 0:11:25.560 the block, but they was all homies. Everybody was like 0:11:25.640 --> 0:11:29.040 this at the beginning. Let's get a year in, eight 0:11:29.080 --> 0:11:32.120 months in it. Now everybody felt apart, and now we're 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:36.520 fighting over that block, in that block. So and then 0:11:36.559 --> 0:11:38.800 you get the same thing in Oakland. You got the 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:43.120 same effect. Now there's over territory. You know what I'm saying. 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:47.040 But the cold part is, you know something something got 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:48.800 out of it because they couldn't deal with it. Like 0:11:48.800 --> 0:11:52.679 you said, the marketing at school. Now he got the money. 0:11:52.679 --> 0:11:55.160 Now I needed to shot caller. You had a whole 0:11:55.160 --> 0:11:58.080 bunch of them in the neighborhood. You know, there was 0:11:58.160 --> 0:12:00.480 the good boys and the good boys are always made 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:03.960 the motherfucking money man. But you can't be mad at 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.480 that mother because you got the game banriage ain't trying 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.720 to do that. They're trying to game back. They ain't 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.319 focused like the next nigga was. So it's it's all 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.400 pretty much the same way. All that. The conflict of 0:12:14.440 --> 0:12:18.360 interest in l A was the the nigga froend the 0:12:18.400 --> 0:12:21.920 hood who got too rich. Yeah, I mean you had 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:26.360 your you had your certain things. Like you said, certain 0:12:26.400 --> 0:12:30.200 niggas was hustlers like a motherfucker, certain neighborhoods. Every it 0:12:30.240 --> 0:12:34.280 seemed like every hood, you know, Compton or whatever, watch 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:37.160 l A. Every hood had a couple of niggas who 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.760 just had to sack them. Was just real, you know. 0:12:40.160 --> 0:12:42.080 And then you just had a couple of niggas like 0:12:42.160 --> 0:12:44.440 you said, James, it was a few of us. That 0:12:44.600 --> 0:12:47.680 was ten niggas on the block trying to rush the 0:12:47.720 --> 0:12:56.000 same cart this week. Yeah, so it just had it 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.320 had the same hustle. The hustle I had a honey 0:12:58.320 --> 0:13:00.839 whom who was doing it was. It was real big 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:02.840 and he felt all the way to funk off. Just 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:04.959 bad luck, bad luck, bad luck. And then think it 0:13:05.040 --> 0:13:08.240 was like and then he was like went the trenches 0:13:08.280 --> 0:13:10.880 with the motherfucking hoodie and the dressing all black and ship. 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:15.080 Now this nigga went, but gotta somebody getting a kilo 0:13:15.160 --> 0:13:17.959 nigg and so that ship he sold a few kilos 0:13:17.960 --> 0:13:20.880 and all fucking rocks for until hetill he got money again. 0:13:21.040 --> 0:13:23.000 I think he just went. He went back from being 0:13:23.559 --> 0:13:25.640 he dropped his whole balling status. It went to be 0:13:25.679 --> 0:13:28.760 a corner nigg again. But he did it in a 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:31.439 baller way instead of like building his way up. He 0:13:31.440 --> 0:13:33.959 woin't got somebody front of my whole thing, family member whatever, 0:13:34.360 --> 0:13:38.360 and he just chipped away. This ship took some of 0:13:38.440 --> 0:13:41.360 are some of our old g's you gotta get back. 0:13:41.440 --> 0:13:45.320 That came that mentality to stay low key. You know, 0:13:46.120 --> 0:13:49.160 I've seen lots of dudes from my neighborhood and then 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.000 Compton whatever who didn't play that. You know, you know 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:55.199 the niggas was ballers and the motherfucker but they kind 0:13:55.240 --> 0:13:56.839 of went low key with the floss. You know what 0:13:56.880 --> 0:14:00.280 I'm saying was talking about just doing pocket change too. Niggas' cool. 0:14:00.320 --> 0:14:02.160 Let me go set up the block for two days day, 0:14:02.360 --> 0:14:06.960 just pulling up and motherfucking pintos and ship. Motherfucking workshirts 0:14:07.040 --> 0:14:10.520 on and ship like that. That's even like the music business. 0:14:10.880 --> 0:14:13.440 Like when when y'all start rapping, you didn't see too 0:14:13.440 --> 0:14:18.800 many brothers in Compton, l a juried out and then 0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:22.080 when they started seeing it, everybody had to do it. Yeah, definitely, 0:14:23.600 --> 0:14:26.200 And that's all it is is the fucking train and 0:14:26.240 --> 0:14:29.640 everybody said fuck it. Like you see that motherfucker roll 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.880 with the rims on this ship. Oh, I got to 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:36.080 go get that, but I'm gonna do something different. And 0:14:36.320 --> 0:14:39.760 that's how they was getting the biggest, fattest motherfucker's had, 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:42.160 the baddest bitches and niggers would not the one thing 0:14:42.200 --> 0:14:45.000 that they should have did and you can't you know, 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.560 hindsight whatever, but man, motherucker should have watched that money 0:14:49.600 --> 0:14:52.200 up and nobody wanted to do it. I remember it 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.480 being out there because it was so much money out there. 0:14:54.960 --> 0:14:57.200 My fund. I remember hearing the talkings like you can 0:14:57.240 --> 0:15:01.680 give your money to selling something something clean cut. Motherfucker 0:15:01.760 --> 0:15:04.240 who had a plan and he was like, give me 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:08.400 your money and I'll give you half your money back. 0:15:08.520 --> 0:15:11.440 Legitimately set up in like businesses and ship in the 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:13.440 bank and was like I'm gonna give you a mean, 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:16.440 I was gonna give me five huney fuck you. Yeah, 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.560 it would have did that. You would have did that. 0:15:19.560 --> 0:15:22.200 You could have been We go to the shoe box 0:15:22.240 --> 0:15:23.640 with the ship and say, but you could have played 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:28.200 the loan version better any day. We didn't. We wasn't 0:15:28.280 --> 0:15:30.640 taught a lot of that ship, you know, the white 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:34.280 boy game with the with the going there making a 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:36.320 lot of us was just talked to just stack the 0:15:36.360 --> 0:15:38.440 bread stack the bread stack to bread because it was 0:15:38.480 --> 0:15:41.600 straighting only one way exactly. I think, like Sure said, 0:15:41.600 --> 0:15:43.280 it was a man who came to him offering the 0:15:43.280 --> 0:15:45.840 opportunity to watch this ship. And I think sometimes man 0:15:46.000 --> 0:15:51.720 nigga's just had they but point out making if collectively, 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.240 if all these cities in America that got ate up 0:15:54.240 --> 0:15:57.760 by crack would have fucking insted the crack money back 0:15:57.760 --> 0:16:00.400 in the community, it might have been the way we 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:06.560 see other ethnic groups take dirty back in Oakland. Because 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.360 let's go back like seventy girls, I'm talking about buying 0:16:10.400 --> 0:16:12.240 up all the buildings on the main street. I'm talking 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:15.080 about buying all the houses on yo. Black type was 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:16.800 some people that did and I ain't gonna say the 0:16:16.840 --> 0:16:19.280 dude's name. One brother did do it. They still washed them. 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.360 Because I've been back then. You gotta figure out ship. 0:16:23.400 --> 0:16:25.960 Everything was set up in design for you do not 0:16:26.360 --> 0:16:29.880 succeed anyway as a black man, whatever your ship was. 0:16:30.360 --> 0:16:32.240 And you knowing how hard they came down on niggers 0:16:32.240 --> 0:16:34.600 who were serving and ship, they get your ass A 0:16:34.720 --> 0:16:37.200 thousand years and ship so real. It's a lot of 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.800 brother still locked up. You know, let's let's go this. 0:16:40.040 --> 0:16:42.960 Seventy five girls areas over with how you bump up 0:16:43.000 --> 0:16:47.120 to another dude to boh, yeah, that's that's the next level. 0:16:47.160 --> 0:16:51.120 So we come out the situation with Dean as me 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.880 and his little brother. We bring on his first cousin, Randy, 0:16:56.120 --> 0:16:58.840 and we go looking around through West Oakland and East 0:16:58.880 --> 0:17:01.960 Oakland trying to find one of these big ballershood. Because 0:17:01.960 --> 0:17:04.679 now we got the formula, we're like, it ain't like 0:17:04.720 --> 0:17:06.440 when I pulled up on Dean, I didn't know ship, 0:17:06.440 --> 0:17:09.080 and I'm learning ship. Now we know how to flip 0:17:09.080 --> 0:17:11.760 this ship. All we need now is the money. So 0:17:11.760 --> 0:17:13.679 I'm pulling up on the dudes that I've been selling 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:16.080 tapes to for years. Motherfucker's no, I put a real 0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:19.600 record out. They know, you know, it's next level. So 0:17:19.600 --> 0:17:22.440 I'm like, bro, this this ship it flipped real easy. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:27.080 But it's nighties seven and the numbers. I'm saying, when 0:17:27.080 --> 0:17:29.320 you're telling the nigga, I can show you how we 0:17:29.359 --> 0:17:31.840 can hit a quick hundred thousand quick two and thousand. 0:17:31.840 --> 0:17:34.160 That's just sounds like peanuts and them, and it's like 0:17:34.560 --> 0:17:36.320 they're laughing at me and Ship, like, nigga, you know 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:38.119 how much I quick I make two and thousand? They 0:17:38.200 --> 0:17:41.000 got I go flip that ship in tomorrow. And I'm like, 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:45.040 my nigga with so I'm getting. I'm like it's like 0:17:45.040 --> 0:17:47.280 I'm going from bank to bank. And niggas is like, now, 0:17:47.280 --> 0:17:48.800 I don't wanna, dude, I don't want to do it 0:17:48.920 --> 0:17:51.480 like Homies to like motherfucker's Like Con said at Homies, 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:54.960 is like like, nah, it's a game was too new 0:17:55.040 --> 0:17:57.000 for him and Ship it's like that new product. And 0:17:57.040 --> 0:18:00.680 show Ted had a he had one of his dudes 0:18:00.720 --> 0:18:05.119 and his crew was named Ali and he was like 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:07.720 one of the loud motherfucker's, you know, just out talking 0:18:07.800 --> 0:18:10.159 and out laugh for you. Now how ship talk you 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:14.800 and just just one of them motherfucker's And he he 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:18.440 was like the hype man. And I wasn't there when 0:18:18.440 --> 0:18:20.359 it went down, but they said after how that tied me. 0:18:20.400 --> 0:18:22.800 And it was real cool through the through the tape 0:18:23.000 --> 0:18:26.280 hustle and ship and just you know, selling customary tapes 0:18:26.359 --> 0:18:27.960 and you know what I'm saying. He was he was 0:18:27.960 --> 0:18:32.040 supporting the too Short Freddie B movement and then um 0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:37.960 um Ted was like, nah, I'm cool. And then we 0:18:38.040 --> 0:18:42.320 left and he said, Ali went into his uh the 0:18:42.359 --> 0:18:46.960 whole yelling and screaming. She's like that man's two shorts something. 0:18:47.000 --> 0:18:48.879 You know, if you knew him, you know when the 0:18:48.960 --> 0:18:51.840 loud motherfucker's to just be like, like, you gotta do 0:18:51.880 --> 0:18:56.280 that ship and talked him into it. So you know, 0:18:56.359 --> 0:19:00.159 he came back. And I always say this that he 0:19:00.240 --> 0:19:02.439 agreed to spend like like a few geez like just 0:19:02.480 --> 0:19:04.400 to get the studio time to get you know, get 0:19:04.440 --> 0:19:07.399 your ship going. And then at some point there I 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:10.680 don't know if the music or the hustle or what 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:15.719 it was, he just without saying all right, man, I'm 0:19:15.720 --> 0:19:18.040 gonna spend teen or I'm gonna spend fifteen or whatever, 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:21.000 he just started taking care of the movement. So you 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:25.080 got eight ten niggas moving every day, we're hustling and ship. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:28.560 But this nigga feeding all these niggas. This niggas, he like, 0:19:28.640 --> 0:19:30.399 we ain't gonna be riding around folk deep in the car. 0:19:30.480 --> 0:19:32.760 So he pulled out four cars all for his car. 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:35.040 You got you dry that, We got lights and dry 0:19:35.080 --> 0:19:37.359 atmos and we're riding around in the caravan and the 0:19:37.440 --> 0:19:40.399 niggas like really making it look right. It wasn't just. 0:19:40.680 --> 0:19:43.680 It wasn't just like I'm a put your in the 0:19:43.720 --> 0:19:45.800 studio and he was making a nigga look right like 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:47.840 nigga When I on the board of mac album cover, 0:19:48.119 --> 0:19:50.439 Nigga like sitting in his car. Put all this jury 0:19:50.440 --> 0:19:53.560 on nigga, let's sell it. So that's what that was. 0:19:53.600 --> 0:19:55.560 And then we go to a show. We're pulling up 0:19:55.600 --> 0:19:58.800 mob deep flyass cars. You know, niggas is singing that 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.280 ship going on, all that shortening him. So we set up, 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:04.960 we set the standard to a certain level and we 0:20:05.040 --> 0:20:07.320 kept it there and then you know, it was it 0:20:07.400 --> 0:20:09.560 was just like that. The money started coming in. We 0:20:09.640 --> 0:20:11.439 got mo fly ask cards and we just we had 0:20:11.480 --> 0:20:14.240 that look. So you know, I put that on Tiar 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:18.680 that he made the whole born in Mac. We got 0:20:18.880 --> 0:20:20.640 we got to deal with drive off Born to Mac. 0:20:20.840 --> 0:20:24.960 He made that whole Born in Mac movement. Like look, 0:20:25.040 --> 0:20:29.080 real fly and the niggas you know at the time, 0:20:29.680 --> 0:20:33.160 coming out of like eight six, being around Dean Hodges 0:20:33.520 --> 0:20:36.160 and Dean's house. Dean was the kind of nigger who 0:20:36.720 --> 0:20:38.840 he got a big gas bank roll in this sock. 0:20:39.560 --> 0:20:42.199 He got a bag of heroin in this sock. He 0:20:42.280 --> 0:20:45.240 got some cocaine powder on this side. He got some 0:20:45.480 --> 0:20:47.959 cocaine rocks in this sock. He given everybody to come 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:50.159 in the house what they want. He given all the 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:52.960 bitches what they want, all the mot It's like ballplayers, 0:20:52.960 --> 0:20:55.680