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Speaker 1: tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gang Then the Goals. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: m C eight, Big James and bixtails strictly from the streets.

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Speaker 1: Hello jus from hood to hood or backyard of yours.

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Speaker 1: We would like to welcome you to another episode of

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Speaker 1: the scene of nine eight three and has been a

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Speaker 1: has definitely made him rich, with a fan base that

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Speaker 1: developed by slinging mixtapes to the Pence players and hustlers

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Speaker 1: He wasn't a nigger like that. The Dean was a

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Speaker 1: nigger who came up selling. Uh. He made all his

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Speaker 1: after the projects. He turned that into a motherfucking empire

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Speaker 1: I'm pulling up on the dudes that I've been selling

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Speaker 1: We didn't know the effects the crack until the fine

425
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 1: brawls that was walking down the street and turning the monster.

426
00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: He turned the monsters. We didn't know what the effects.

427
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,959
Speaker 1: It was just like some ball of ship. Because the

428
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 1: ball is back in my they smoke pre moles. Yeah,

429
00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:10,400
Speaker 1: so we're doing that. We're crunching up the little rocket

430
00:22:10,440 --> 00:22:12,600
Speaker 1: and ship and playing around. So that that's how I

431
00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:15,359
Speaker 1: was getting too. So two years of like in that lifestyle.

432
00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:19,320
Speaker 1: Then I get with tied Bohannan crew. And then niggas

433
00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,600
Speaker 1: is them niggas that go somewhere and and cook up

434
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:26,159
Speaker 1: like a thing. And then after they finished putting it

435
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:30,480
Speaker 1: here and there, it's all this leftover ship dusts everywhere,

436
00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: and that I'm like the ship that they were. These

437
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: niggas were washed down the sink and some ship that

438
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:37,320
Speaker 1: the other niggas will party on all night. And then

439
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:39,920
Speaker 1: niggas be like they've done. They've got the prophet's back

440
00:22:39,960 --> 00:22:42,399
Speaker 1: that they thought all this ship down the sink, just

441
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:45,880
Speaker 1: like they weren't that nigga. Then they would smoke weed

442
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,440
Speaker 1: and they was like they wouldn't getting too drunk. They wouldn't.

443
00:22:49,000 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 1: They wouldn't getting different mentality if you if you as

444
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: a snorter or any of that ship, they'd be like,

445
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,720
Speaker 1: but I don't even hang around us. They didn't like

446
00:22:57,800 --> 00:23:01,080
Speaker 1: that ship. They just they just spies that whole little

447
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:05,400
Speaker 1: usage of cocaine. So around them, I've seen I wasn't

448
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 1: gonna be the eyeball or be like the goofball nigger

449
00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: and just and be like I'm the user in the crew.

450
00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: I'll just cut that ship out of my life. One

451
00:23:13,720 --> 00:23:16,480
Speaker 1: on one and shouldn't just let it go? Fuck it.

452
00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,320
Speaker 1: I remember I started working with teen them at eighties seven,

453
00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,679
Speaker 1: and I just kind of like just shook all that

454
00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: ship because that ain't how they rode. And then it

455
00:23:26,560 --> 00:23:31,639
Speaker 1: was one nigga in his crew. See was the only

456
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:33,520
Speaker 1: one who was loud and clear in front of everybody.

457
00:23:34,160 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: Blah blah blah. He still he still storing the ship,

458
00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:38,960
Speaker 1: and he he lied with it and just everything. But

459
00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:40,560
Speaker 1: he bought he got money so he could do that.

460
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:43,040
Speaker 1: And then uh, I went to his house to watch

461
00:23:43,240 --> 00:23:46,120
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. I will never forget this fucking day.

462
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 1: The whole crew over there we watching the Super Bowl.

463
00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:53,400
Speaker 1: I Chris at his house. He was being a little

464
00:23:53,440 --> 00:23:55,960
Speaker 1: more loose with it, and he was higher up in

465
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: the crew, so he wasn't really like being judged by

466
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: the rest of them. That was just his stack. So

467
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 1: I like, I'm gonna hint this ship. I took a

468
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 1: one on one and and he got the sweating. I ain't.

469
00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: I ain't touched the ship probably like eight months or something.

470
00:24:09,320 --> 00:24:11,080
Speaker 1: I got the sweating. I ain't telling nobody what I

471
00:24:11,160 --> 00:24:13,760
Speaker 1: was going through. I went in the bathroom. Now I

472
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: nigga sweating buckets. I'm looking in the mirror like funck

473
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 1: like like, nigga, what the fund does this do? Like

474
00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 1: now Nigga like sitting on the on the toilet with

475
00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,800
Speaker 1: the toilet see clothes, like like fuck, you know what

476
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Then they gonna end up with his mother,

477
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: like you know that that prayer. You're like, God, let

478
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 1: me get through this ship. I'm thinking, I'm thinking, my

479
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,800
Speaker 1: heart going wrong. All kind of ship. I come out

480
00:24:35,840 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: that bathroom. You couldn't give me no cocaine for fucking

481
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: twenty years after that, I'm like, funk all that ship

482
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 1: that was. That was my lesson learning I was I

483
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,120
Speaker 1: was cool, was one of the man you know exactly.

484
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,360
Speaker 1: I have no idea but that that that was enough

485
00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: for me, just getting around and conditioning of some players

486
00:24:56,200 --> 00:25:01,119
Speaker 1: and ballers that that look down that like stylars and

487
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,440
Speaker 1: then and then hit it back again and hell no,

488
00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,560
Speaker 1: like that's I see you talking about some not only

489
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,240
Speaker 1: legendary deep boys, but seeing next wound up being the

490
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,800
Speaker 1: one that put out yuck in them. Exactly. That's putting

491
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 1: up drew down the loomit so everybody head and I

492
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: can see that. Now you say he was a little

493
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:21,480
Speaker 1: bit more um outspoken, and you know what I'm saying. Yeah,

494
00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: Chris was a loud while he had the long ass

495
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: hair and it was yeah, man, so y'all out there

496
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,240
Speaker 1: on smash pretty much. Now, Man, y'all got the thing going.

497
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,959
Speaker 1: Because I know it didn't hit l A v IP records.

498
00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,919
Speaker 1: They had to take everything because you know I talk,

499
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:40,040
Speaker 1: and that's what he talked about. He said, Man, I

500
00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: remember shorten him just come in here with a thousand

501
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 1: tapes and we bought all thousand the motherfucker's and he'd

502
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:48,119
Speaker 1: be up the road somewhere. Bro literally was just trump

503
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 1: like like the city. You knew that people you could

504
00:25:52,040 --> 00:25:53,679
Speaker 1: drop them off with, come back and get it later.

505
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:55,360
Speaker 1: You knew the people that would just buy my right.

506
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: And then I knew the little one stops that are

507
00:25:57,560 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: shipping out to other stories of people I didn't know.

508
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 1: So we just kndn't manage to literally, brod I ain't

509
00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:06,120
Speaker 1: gonna life. I had nothing to go on on how

510
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: to run this business except drug dealing. So basically we

511
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: looked at everything like it was the cop. You flipped

512
00:26:14,920 --> 00:26:18,040
Speaker 1: the ship, you make your profit, you save your real money.

513
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:19,840
Speaker 1: You flipped the ship. That's how I didn't even know

514
00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,680
Speaker 1: how to think about the ship any other way. And

515
00:26:21,800 --> 00:26:25,879
Speaker 1: literally that's what we did. We we just was selling dopeful.

516
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: I even called the ship dope fee music. It was

517
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:32,159
Speaker 1: that was, that was this mentality because there was a

518
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,000
Speaker 1: lot of dudes who was out the trunk back and

519
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,479
Speaker 1: then even down here, I said, the Todd and Spade

520
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 1: and all in. We had a few dudes no matter

521
00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:43,320
Speaker 1: how much, no matter how much motherfucking money I made

522
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:45,840
Speaker 1: off music, and I was getting it. I was never

523
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: the nigga in the crew, you know, the niggas with

524
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 1: the money. I would never got up where they was at.

525
00:26:52,080 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: Never they had too much. So man, so y'all rolling on, Man,

526
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 1: I want you to go back to that exact moment. Man,

527
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: when Job Rickets called, you don't want to know you know,

528
00:27:03,000 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: how was you feeling? Man like? Job wasn't really like

529
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't like niggas was jumping for joy and like

530
00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: happy because the label called It's nineteen eight. When I

531
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,480
Speaker 1: got the call from Job, we've been running this born

532
00:27:16,520 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: in Mac. I'm about to I'm about to put another

533
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,200
Speaker 1: album together. I was, I was about to put the

534
00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 1: life this Too Short together and just keep doing what

535
00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 1: I do, and Jib called and it wasn't it was

536
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,280
Speaker 1: never about the money they was offering. It was it

537
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 1: wasn't even about a label deal. It was really like,

538
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, these the motherfucker's that put out Kumo D.

539
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 1: Who deny who else they ahead at the time, because

540
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 1: that was enough right there for me though, because Kumo

541
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:49,480
Speaker 1: D was top dog, that Kumod was top dog and

542
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: who didn't he got a damn right when they signed me.

543
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,760
Speaker 1: They signed they signed Bookie Down Productions, they signed me,

544
00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: they signed will Smith Fresh Friends, and they was you know,

545
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 1: they were just into it. It was it was going there,

546
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm like, and I think it was

547
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: a good choice of me. I've had a lot of

548
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:14,040
Speaker 1: the good artists back then. Jib was it was the

549
00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: right type of label for what I was doing because

550
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 1: they wasn't really like Death Jam was like no at all,

551
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 1: Like I would have went over the Death Jam signed

552
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: up and rusting them would have probably been manipulating me

553
00:28:24,520 --> 00:28:27,520
Speaker 1: to pushing me in a certain direction and convinced me

554
00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:29,280
Speaker 1: because they know more than me, like do this, do that,

555
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:31,639
Speaker 1: and they'd have made a nigga like like be some

556
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,240
Speaker 1: kind of superstar and some ship. And I was like, no, nigga,

557
00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm didn't need to do a show for twenty five

558
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: thou people and walk right the funk off the stage

559
00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 1: into the crowd and not back to the backstage, right

560
00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: to the mother crowd and started working with the people

561
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:50,200
Speaker 1: in the crowd and don't give a fuck, like literally

562
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: walked through the whole damn arena and death Jam wouldn't

563
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: let me. They wouldn't let me do that. Then death

564
00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: Jam was like, you gotta have you gotta be a superstar,

565
00:28:58,960 --> 00:29:05,120
Speaker 1: you gotta be key be you know, over project, and

566
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:06,480
Speaker 1: like you want to be a pimp, We're gonna make

567
00:29:06,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: you super pimp and some ship. But I was spounds

568
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,960
Speaker 1: and extra speaking of the pimp and must depart from that. Man.

569
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: I got asks. I always wanted to ask you who

570
00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:21,320
Speaker 1: you were ever really a pen So the dream was,

571
00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,160
Speaker 1: you know, your parents be like I need you to

572
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,760
Speaker 1: go do something productive in the world, and then you're

573
00:29:28,760 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: rebelling with this hip hop ship, nobody believing that the

574
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 1: ship is gonna work. So my backup plan was always

575
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: I think I could break a health. I think I

576
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: could do this ship. So I never had to do

577
00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 1: it out of necessity. But later in life, um ship

578
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,720
Speaker 1: just started happening. Man, Like my homies who really pimp

579
00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:58,880
Speaker 1: that I've been hanging around my whole life. It's funny

580
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: to them, and some of them even would get mad

581
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: at me for not taking advantage because we'd be in

582
00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: a moment and some bit should be star struck on

583
00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:10,520
Speaker 1: two short, but then she's a real hole and she'd

584
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,240
Speaker 1: be hitting. Like they go what I would, I would

585
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: if you know what I'm saying, and then I just

586
00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:17,480
Speaker 1: kind of like shake it out. They're like, Brad, you're

587
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,320
Speaker 1: sucking up like you could be the biggest pimp out here.

588
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: And I'm like, Nigga, if I'm the biggest pimp out

589
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
Speaker 1: here and I'm making two short records, I'm going to

590
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:31,280
Speaker 1: jail nigger instantly. So I had a little thing that

591
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 1: I would do. Man, It's just like I just give

592
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 1: my my feet with a little bit. Like I felt

593
00:30:38,480 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: like if I had to tell a bit to go

594
00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: hope for me, then I'm doing too much. But if

595
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: a hope came to me and said I funk with

596
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 1: you and just be giving me money, then I'm like,

597
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 1: I funk with you too, and I knew how to

598
00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,720
Speaker 1: play the role, and I purposely like all the bitches

599
00:30:54,800 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 1: that that got down with me for however long they

600
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:59,680
Speaker 1: got down. If if they think back on they'd be

601
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: like this motherfucking never do used to ask me for

602
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,760
Speaker 1: the money, Like you'd be like, bitch, what you got?

603
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:08,200
Speaker 1: I would just be like, you know, the moment we

604
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: see each other, you know what, you know what the

605
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,160
Speaker 1: transaction is. But I'm not I'm not gonna be like, oh,

606
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: that's all you got. I'm just I'm telling it, like

607
00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 1: let me tell you. They're like, oh, ship bread, But

608
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: then you know, I live in Vegas of ten years. Man.

609
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:26,240
Speaker 1: It's it's it's differently when when the a bitches like

610
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,280
Speaker 1: a wild cat out there, like really on the proud

611
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:33,080
Speaker 1: every day, six seven days a week, and she just

612
00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 1: getting working. That's that's that's a job for you. It

613
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 1: sounds like she's doing all the work. But I promise you,

614
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: I promise you. Uh, if you have two bitches running

615
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,760
Speaker 1: routes every day, you can't really do much else with

616
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,400
Speaker 1: your life except tending them to bitches, because it's that

617
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:56,640
Speaker 1: much of a job just keeping them on track. Uh.

618
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,560
Speaker 1: I mean, Luckily, in some situations, it's worth it because

619
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 1: if you got if each one of them brows is

620
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: making fifteen twenty a month and they're giving it all

621
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,240
Speaker 1: to you and just just you and them to brows

622
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 1: and pody Jesus is a nice, nice lifestyle, you know.

623
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: So um, I just did I can't deal with Like, Okay,

624
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,000
Speaker 1: I go do I go do a weekend as concerts.

625
00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:24,720
Speaker 1: I'm getting, you know, teen racks for a club, fifteen

626
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: twenty for these big radio shows, different ships, and I'm

627
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 1: going out like every weekend doing something and then he'll

628
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,920
Speaker 1: go to bid. She running like five ranks a week.

629
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 1: But the bitches like stressing me the funk out, like

630
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:43,240
Speaker 1: like she got rights in my life? Where the fun

631
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 1: like bitch calling phone, the money, what you're doing, I'm

632
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: just sitting there, Oh you're just sitting on your asks

633
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: while I'm out here running from the police like bitch,

634
00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: fuck you, like you know what I'm saying. So like

635
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,600
Speaker 1: it gets to the home. But she really wanted that.

636
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: You know, they'd be thinking more than that. They'd be

637
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: thinking like they'd be thinking other ship too, Like they

638
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,080
Speaker 1: were like I'm a whole for two years and then

639
00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:05,760
Speaker 1: this they're gonna marry me we have a family. They'd

640
00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:09,880
Speaker 1: be thinking all kind of ship like it's always it's

641
00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:13,120
Speaker 1: always that, there's always a goal at the end. You

642
00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 1: ain't even gonna get it a whole, right, If you

643
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,360
Speaker 1: don't get it a goal, there's gotta be a goal.

644
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 1: So I just learned that man that that old fucking

645
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,680
Speaker 1: therapist ship and then sucking four in the morning call

646
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,800
Speaker 1: with a drunk, crazy bitch talking ship ain't worth. It

647
00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:30,440
Speaker 1: ain't worth the bitch coming in the door saying, look,

648
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 1: I stole the rolex and the hit and nig is

649
00:33:32,440 --> 00:33:34,880
Speaker 1: safe for fifteen thousand. That should make you feel good

650
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: at the moment, but it ain't working in the long run.

651
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:40,000
Speaker 1: When I'm sitting out here sucking, I got me a

652
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 1: jidass hustle and a bitch get mad and say, uh oh,

653
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 1: I've been a vice. Would like to know what you

654
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 1: really do? Like bitch, bitch just pushing buttons. At the

655
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,920
Speaker 1: same time, what if the bitch did go down to

656
00:33:53,000 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: the motherfuckering's vice like make up some wild as stories.

657
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: Goddamn change every pimp take though, So it was a

658
00:34:00,560 --> 00:34:02,040
Speaker 1: chance I didn't want to take. So like I said,

659
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: Like I said, Like I said, I avoided this ship skillfully. Uh.

660
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 1: Some niggas laughed it off. I thought it was funny.

661
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:13,960
Speaker 1: Other niggas was like, nigga crazy for not indulgent. But

662
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 1: I think I made the right choice. It wasn't It

663
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,080
Speaker 1: wasn't what I wanted to do full time, so I

664
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 1: couldn't do it part time. And at the end of

665
00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:23,719
Speaker 1: the day, you got all these records to what you're

666
00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: talking about, you pimping and the broad hand of the vice.

667
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:32,080
Speaker 1: They say, oh we got the maga motherfucker that story

668
00:34:32,160 --> 00:34:34,160
Speaker 1: on the mother record right there. I was at the

669
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,880
Speaker 1: NBA All Star and this this hole came up to

670
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: me and she was just talking and ship and which

671
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 1: she was a whole I guess, and she was talking

672
00:34:42,440 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 1: to her out of pocket whatever. But the bitch was

673
00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:48,560
Speaker 1: saying something to me about pimping and hoeing and I

674
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: just was, you know, it was a fly asc fitters whatever.

675
00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like, look, I don't you know, I've

676
00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: been making records and ship. I ain't really like out

677
00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:59,480
Speaker 1: here pimper no house. And she said, what I thought,

678
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:02,440
Speaker 1: you just come? She looked chicken. Something is that baby?

679
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: I guess what this nigga ain't well pimp so I'm

680
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:07,920
Speaker 1: with these gangster as niggas and it bit get like

681
00:35:08,920 --> 00:35:12,400
Speaker 1: like two three sentences into some like disrespectful ship and

682
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: niggas is like, bra, I'm gonna say this one time. Man,

683
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,759
Speaker 1: get that bitch man, just get her. She was she

684
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,040
Speaker 1: was hurt. M she was hurt her fellows was hurting

685
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: the reality of of of what they depicted as you

686
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,960
Speaker 1: as an artist and what they hear on the music.

687
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 1: It confuses, But did everybody look at it like that?

688
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: If I'm rapping the ball, killing and beating them up, pucker,

689
00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 1: this is what deception of you is. They feel you

690
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:41,200
Speaker 1: live that nfe. So, ain't nothing wrong with with pimping,

691
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:44,520
Speaker 1: part time pimping, or just you know, stagnating in the

692
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 1: pipping game. You know, I'm here, I'm there, I got

693
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,160
Speaker 1: some bitches and and it is what it is. But

694
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:52,880
Speaker 1: I can't live like that. Spice One went on his

695
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 1: first tour niggas like, Nigga, let me say, how gangs

696
00:35:56,600 --> 00:36:00,399
Speaker 1: you are, honey with DJ equipment on his first two

697
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: that Nigga had to fight every crip in America. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

698
00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,879
Speaker 1: It's sometimes, like I said, sometimes the fans will test

699
00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:13,960
Speaker 1: your motherfucking abilities and ship and when you I mean

700
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: you do in certain ways. But I could say when

701
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:23,920
Speaker 1: we went on tour Um, we really didn't get funcked

702
00:36:24,000 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 1: with that much by a lot of cats. I mean,

703
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: whether it was crips or bloods or niggas from a

704
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: lot of different sections. First time went to San Diego,

705
00:36:33,239 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: it was like a blood thirst. It's like it's nothing

706
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,320
Speaker 1: but bloods out here. I mean, the first time we

707
00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: went to watch ship. The first time I went to

708
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:46,360
Speaker 1: motherfucking Flagstaff or Phoenix or something like that. Not Phoenix

709
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: but something else. Mother, Oh my god, he said, Oh

710
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,360
Speaker 1: my god. When I'm talking about Nick Cave about the

711
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,799
Speaker 1: dressing room and our asses come down there. We get

712
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 1: stage curtain clothes, we got all blue head to toe

713
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,760
Speaker 1: and ship. When I'm talking about they pulled that curtains

714
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:09,080
Speaker 1: back and it was a motherfucking arena and all we

715
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:11,839
Speaker 1: saw was ready I'm talking about girls with red rag

716
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: belts on and bow rats and combs and everything. I

717
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I still had to go

718
00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: out there. He was paid, got paid everything, and it

719
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: was cool as a motherfucker. They still with the bag. Now,

720
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:28,239
Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna let you perform and I ain't just

721
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 1: taking my blood. It's crips to same situation. They're gonna

722
00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: let you perform, but as soon as your motherucking' asks

723
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: get through performing believing the niggas at the back door

724
00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: ready if they don't want to know, Because you gotta

725
00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:42,279
Speaker 1: remember this dog, you gotta nigga is sitting at home

726
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:44,320
Speaker 1: all day and he don't took his bach to the

727
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: show with him, right, She's sitting around all day talking

728
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: about whoa what the hell of the nigga you wiels?

729
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: And so he'd go there. He's about to try to

730
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 1: show all the front of that bix like show you

731
00:37:53,600 --> 00:37:56,040
Speaker 1: nigga like me here rap nick, I'm a real nigger.

732
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: So you know, it's a whole bunch of sixy wass

733
00:37:58,440 --> 00:38:00,440
Speaker 1: like that. You know, speaking of gangster ship short we

734
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,920
Speaker 1: all called the Gangster chronicles, man. So you're going through

735
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: this period man with these guys. Things is going good, man, y'all.

736
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:11,959
Speaker 1: There's stilling a lot of records, man, and they're selling

737
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:13,560
Speaker 1: a lot of dope at the same time. A lot

738
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: of dope being sold the same time. So at some

739
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: point you'll have a separation. And we we got a

740
00:38:21,520 --> 00:38:25,160
Speaker 1: good uh, we got a good five year run, like

741
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,399
Speaker 1: from we ran from what eighties seven to about ninety three,

742
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: But we got a good running and it just you know,

743
00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: Minister Society, the movie started the end of our little

744
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:42,960
Speaker 1: click that clicked from table heading. Then it was it

745
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: was I don't know if it was just time, and

746
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 1: it always we look back on these situations, you go,

747
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: this ship was so small compared to what the big

748
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:57,279
Speaker 1: picture was. It was. But I do Minutes Society, and

749
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 1: we got a company together. We run in Dangerous Music.

750
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:02,319
Speaker 1: We're a company, partners in the company, and he got

751
00:39:02,440 --> 00:39:04,279
Speaker 1: a He got a pretty good return on his money

752
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: because the the initial investment, you know, bought him in

753
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: as a partner, and we've made a lot of money

754
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,719
Speaker 1: as a company because we started signing other artists too,

755
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 1: and it was it was going real good. And we

756
00:39:16,239 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: all did our part. You know, even even though Tad

757
00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: was in the streets, he was truly all the way

758
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: into the label. And we was we made all all decisions.

759
00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: We ran this ship and I went to do Minutes

760
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: to Society. And then mind you, we fall out as

761
00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:37,239
Speaker 1: a crew, different members of the crew, we follow out.

762
00:39:37,239 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: We whatever we we all we get it back. That's

763
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,920
Speaker 1: my my nimes that it's always been that way. And

764
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:50,279
Speaker 1: Chris came down to l a. Yeah, he came down.

765
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: He uh, he came and sniffed around the set and

766
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 1: as you know, just pulled up on my fucking ship

767
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:00,080
Speaker 1: and you know, we're all good and ship and and

768
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:05,240
Speaker 1: Chris that MINS Society they paid me like sixty racks

769
00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,319
Speaker 1: or some ship something like that. And I remember, um,

770
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,839
Speaker 1: I got the check and it was like thirty racks.

771
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,800
Speaker 1: They just took the automatically took the ship out. I

772
00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 1: gotta I got a thirty thousand on the check to

773
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 1: be in Mins Society wasn't really it was the movie. Look,

774
00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:22,520
Speaker 1: it wasn't took the money off. You know, this check

775
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,239
Speaker 1: came to me and some shift I wouldn't did, as

776
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: I'm not making music. It was it was for being

777
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,320
Speaker 1: in the movie. So I'm not making music. That's not

778
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:32,759
Speaker 1: a part of my music thing and that and I

779
00:40:32,840 --> 00:40:34,360
Speaker 1: just went and got a little side hustle and did

780
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:38,320
Speaker 1: did the ship. So Chris went back and said that

781
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,360
Speaker 1: they he told Teddy he was like, you know, he

782
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: did probably did the hype voice nand he did love

783
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: something something and then ted hits me up. It was like, yeah, man,

784
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 1: we heard you. They got a hunted racks and you know,

785
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: ship men, you ain't doing the business right. But but

786
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:54,760
Speaker 1: I'm like, bron, that's we we got a music company.

787
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,360
Speaker 1: Like if I if I was to go off and

788
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: be an actor or something, I'm not giving y'all a

789
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 1: percentage of that ship's stop music. So so tear's my nigga.

790
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:06,360
Speaker 1: We we love once to this day. We had a

791
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: long fall out, but we loved once to this day.

792
00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: And he said to me at some point he said, well,

793
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: fucking man, uh, just just just send me my check.

794
00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 1: Like like he kind of like tapped out, like I

795
00:41:20,239 --> 00:41:22,520
Speaker 1: don't sunk with y'all no more, and kind of like

796
00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:24,600
Speaker 1: tapped down. It's like, just send me my money. So

797
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: before I could get into that, you know, I'm I

798
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: got you know, we got niggas, got cruise, We got

799
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: different niggas you're sunk with all around the city. So

800
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 1: I got some wild bunch of niggas I'll run with

801
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: who I really hang out with because telling them it

802
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: was always on the safe side, laid back. They didn't

803
00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 1: really like clubbing a lot and all that. So I

804
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: have a little wild bunch that I run around with

805
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:47,600
Speaker 1: and I'm like, I'm consulting in my niggas. I'm like, man,

806
00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: niggas said, you know, just give him his money. And

807
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,840
Speaker 1: then Nigga's just kind of fall back and don't really participants.

808
00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:58,040
Speaker 1: So we're looking. We're looking at this ship like that's

809
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 1: like pimping to me, Like, Nigga, i' I'm gonna kick back.

810
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: I don't gonna get my money and bring my money back, bitch,

811
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,520
Speaker 1: So let me say, let me when do you say,

812
00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:09,200
Speaker 1: give me my money? Can share the company? He was like,

813
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,359
Speaker 1: if you're gonna keep your hunting down from the movie,

814
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: which I told him, they gotta say they gave me

815
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,000
Speaker 1: thirty is my money whatever. So he said, you're gonna

816
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,479
Speaker 1: keep the money, then Nigga ain't suing people, bah blah blah.

817
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:21,800
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, well, damn bron man. Nigga's always

818
00:42:22,600 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I can't, like, I can't work and

819
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,120
Speaker 1: pay you a percentage and you're not hustling with me.

820
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 1: I just guy can't do that. So then the ship

821
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 1: it got. It was one little gangster moment and that

822
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:38,120
Speaker 1: now the money. At the same time, my niggas that

823
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:43,880
Speaker 1: I'm running with it gets real complicated in likee my

824
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 1: niggas are running with are now if involved in a

825
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 1: murdered deaf kill all out war with niggas that's affiliated

826
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:57,719
Speaker 1: with Ted. So telling them, they tell me one day

827
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,920
Speaker 1: they're like, they like, if we see them and you

828
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 1: went him, we ain't gonna try to miss you. That

829
00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 1: were all hanging out eating eating something, dropping it up, smoking,

830
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 1: we we music niggas, And the niggas say, if if

831
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 1: we see you with him trying to mix, it ain't

832
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,920
Speaker 1: gonna be no special treatment. So it should start getting

833
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: real political for me. So then when that that part happened,

834
00:43:21,560 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: so the party happened where he said we just give

835
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:26,040
Speaker 1: my money to ship just started falling apart. So um

836
00:43:26,120 --> 00:43:30,200
Speaker 1: Efty did his uh yearly picnic out the way out

837
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,160
Speaker 1: there where they're from Fairfield Valeo, and we go to

838
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: the e forty picnic and we just happened to like

839
00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: you know, we got we got mob deep whatever whenever, whenever, whatever.

840
00:43:40,960 --> 00:43:43,400
Speaker 1: But on this day we go out there phone niggas

841
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:48,880
Speaker 1: in one car and one pistol. So and the pistol

842
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,120
Speaker 1: was my pistol. So I got the little strap on me.

843
00:43:52,760 --> 00:43:55,000
Speaker 1: I had like a little clock on them, and then uh,

844
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,320
Speaker 1: we pull up in the park. We weren't even tripping

845
00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:02,000
Speaker 1: on like you just always have a strap. We wasn't

846
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,839
Speaker 1: tripping on that. We gotta have a strap. It wasn't

847
00:44:05,880 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: even have thought. But then we pull up on a

848
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,719
Speaker 1: ten them at the picnic. It's a big gas park.

849
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 1: It's thousands of motherfucker's out here like it's hat and

850
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: we pull up on ten and them and they worked

851
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: this a little like like this little maneuver like uh,

852
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 1: kind of spread out a little bit and these are

853
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,560
Speaker 1: nigg like money niggas and ship, like you got the

854
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: little street niggas and ship, but it's like niggas in

855
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 1: like money more. We're going to the forty picnic. We

856
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:37,799
Speaker 1: ain't really like coming to this motherfucker for a fighting

857
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: that and all that ship and uh, they start kind

858
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:46,520
Speaker 1: of like the approach and ship. He come over me

859
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:48,680
Speaker 1: and he're telling me the whole ship like kind of

860
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: like kind of kind of checking, you know what I mean.

861
00:44:51,640 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: And I was one of the homies. Uh he was

862
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 1: like before we walked upon and he was like, give

863
00:44:57,360 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: me that strap. So he plot plot and ted to

864
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: talk a little bit and he's say, man, we ain't

865
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:07,319
Speaker 1: really trying to hear all this ship right now, man,

866
00:45:07,320 --> 00:45:09,399
Speaker 1: when they ain't gonna give you nothing, it ain't gonna

867
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,839
Speaker 1: be like that or whatever. The fun and they say

868
00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 1: because they was like the niggas is like like up

869
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: they got angles on this all kind of ship. And

870
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,880
Speaker 1: Nigga said, you can tell these niggas to do anything

871
00:45:18,920 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: you want to hear. He said, all you put you

872
00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,320
Speaker 1: show him the strap he's saying. He saying, all I

873
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 1: know is I'll go fun what they do, I'm killing

874
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: you out here, and all the nigga stood down. The

875
00:45:29,719 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: later we went and enjoyed the picnic and nobody had

876
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,680
Speaker 1: no problem with nobody. I think later on at the

877
00:45:36,800 --> 00:45:39,360
Speaker 1: end of the picnic, they tried to catch one of

878
00:45:39,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: my rapper homies, Goldie, and and sent him through some

879
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:46,160
Speaker 1: dramas and ship chased him up out of there or

880
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:49,799
Speaker 1: something caught of walking into this car chases. That's all

881
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,880
Speaker 1: that happened, and sucking um from their own, you know.

882
00:45:54,320 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: I basically uh Tar kind of calmed down a little bit.

883
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,759
Speaker 1: We talked after a while and it was like, you know,

884
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: let's just it's already in the in the contract. We

885
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:04,440
Speaker 1: got together his partners that we just just all the

886
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:07,280
Speaker 1: company and you take your cut and keep it pushing.

887
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 1: So I had two partners back then, Randy that which

888
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: was Dean's cousin, and Ted. Jerry had fall He fell out,

889
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,680
Speaker 1: way back, way down the line. We lost Jerry, the

890
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: little brother. We lost him. He didn't he didn't have

891
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 1: a He he mad at me right now, you love

892
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:24,520
Speaker 1: me like a brother, but stay mad at me. But

893
00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:29,759
Speaker 1: the politics bron so then I literally just it was

894
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: probably when I moved to Atlanta, I broke Tad off something.

895
00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:37,560
Speaker 1: You know, this this the company. I brought Randy off

896
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 1: sat and the company, and I just changed the whole ship.

897
00:46:41,480 --> 00:46:46,320
Speaker 1: And I ain't looking back since. So it was, you know,

898
00:46:46,360 --> 00:46:49,439
Speaker 1: it was supposed to happen. No, we could have liked Chris,

899
00:46:49,719 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: the whole ship, the politics, it could have been without

900
00:46:53,760 --> 00:46:55,920
Speaker 1: that ship. Man. But you know, so pretty much just

901
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: the average na till and Nigga running back talking about

902
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,080
Speaker 1: some ship he don't know, telling somebody something gonna kicked up.

903
00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 1: A whole bunch of dis man. I made way more

904
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 1: money much. I made way more money after that than

905
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 1: I did before before all that ship. If the best

906
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: you have to come, they have no idea. I was going,

907
00:47:12,080 --> 00:47:16,719
Speaker 1: they're gonna run and they jumped ship, so it didn't

908
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: know only happened that the Carmos a motherfucker. I mean,

909
00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 1: you know they he could have fell off after that,

910
00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 1: or it could have been you know whatever James often do.

911
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,480
Speaker 1: We had them conversations, man, because it all goes back

912
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,120
Speaker 1: and this is the old step and it all goes

913
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:31,600
Speaker 1: back to sings coming down pretty much almost like would

914
00:47:31,640 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 1: intend to just kicking up starting some ship. But that

915
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:37,279
Speaker 1: kind of was his personality. We just wasn't posted. It

916
00:47:37,360 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: wasn't puposed to get that serious. You know. If I

917
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:40,920
Speaker 1: got on the phone and say, bro, I really got

918
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 1: thirty racks explained to him that money could have been

919
00:47:43,160 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 1: like we just getting money from different ships. Like it

920
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,320
Speaker 1: could have been like this, Bro, we got a podcast together.

921
00:47:48,440 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: Run James go out there tomorrow and they say, man,

922
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,600
Speaker 1: we want to book you to play this part of

923
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:54,320
Speaker 1: the thing. He could get a million dollars me and

924
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,680
Speaker 1: they can't coming him like James, Man, what's up? We

925
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 1: need to cut of that. You know that don't make

926
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 1: no sense at what I tell you When you said

927
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,759
Speaker 1: that if if if they take me and they don't

928
00:48:05,800 --> 00:48:12,319
Speaker 1: take all three they ain't. I'm not talking about that ship.

929
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 1: Fuck that ship still. If you know what the code

930
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:23,000
Speaker 1: part about it is, you have what we call clicks,

931
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,279
Speaker 1: the homies kicking it. But then at the end of

932
00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:29,960
Speaker 1: the day, before we get rich, somebody fall off. The motherfucker.

933
00:48:30,040 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: Because now we're thinking that m I see this nag

934
00:48:33,239 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: count his money. I want you to bathroom. I know

935
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:38,000
Speaker 1: he puts him in his pocket. That's how we think

936
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:41,160
Speaker 1: right now, we're thinking all funked up. Now. I wanted

937
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,000
Speaker 1: if he got I wonder if he got more than

938
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 1: I got. I wonder if he got more than I

939
00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:48,360
Speaker 1: watched that ship with with with with Shog in his company,

940
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 1: with all these different motherfucker's that was in it. How

941
00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: people was mad how much money they was making and

942
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:59,600
Speaker 1: what they wouldn't getting, and it fox everything up. We

943
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 1: ain't worked together. That's why I tell him, gangs, your

944
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: chronicles is gonna work together. Bryan, come to this motherfucker. Now,

945
00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 1: you only gotta pay me. I'm just working with y'all.

946
00:49:10,560 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 1: But ship were all going to get the check. We're

947
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:16,040
Speaker 1: all gonna eat and we don't have to. But the

948
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:18,799
Speaker 1: ones that didn't want to be there work their way

949
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: out the situation, definitely, And it's just like it's a

950
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:24,759
Speaker 1: cycle shutting down. So when I look back on all

951
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,919
Speaker 1: this ship though, I go on like runs, like it's

952
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 1: just a run. We get a run, I get a

953
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:31,239
Speaker 1: run in with a group of people, and we get

954
00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 1: a bag and we're on that run. It's gonna come

955
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,959
Speaker 1: to an end, and some of us gonna stay friends

956
00:49:36,000 --> 00:49:38,239
Speaker 1: for life, and some of us gonna forget each other

957
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 1: and we're gonna let men see each other again, and

958
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 1: just we gotta run. I could have been it's been

959
00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:45,319
Speaker 1: so long now. I mean I could have been best

960
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:49,760
Speaker 1: friends with the motherfucker for three years and from ninety

961
00:49:50,160 --> 00:49:52,600
Speaker 1: eighty nine to ninety two we're best friends. I don't

962
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: remember that motherfucker right now. It's been that. It's been

963
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 1: that many places and faces and set up shops and

964
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:02,480
Speaker 1: you know, saying, real motherfucker's don't come and go like that.

965
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:05,759
Speaker 1: I mean, when they fake and ship, they they they're

966
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 1: gonna come and go. Real motherfucker should be around if

967
00:50:08,680 --> 00:50:12,040
Speaker 1: y'all got the same agenda, y'all trying to reach the

968
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 1: same motherfucking destination. But fake motherfucker's they just want to

969
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,960
Speaker 1: get in at that point, John, jump on the motherfucking

970
00:50:19,040 --> 00:50:21,600
Speaker 1: train and then jump off when there's another when it's

971
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:24,759
Speaker 1: a better situation. Let me ask you a six question. Sure,

972
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 1: I ain't trying to be message, we don't want to

973
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: play the shows, but that situation wouldn't have nothing to

974
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: do with the reason why I see you next. You

975
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:37,520
Speaker 1: got to the ask. See it's all related, but it's

976
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: all related. But what happened after after that? So I

977
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:48,200
Speaker 1: moved to Atlanta basically because niggas that I knew in

978
00:50:48,280 --> 00:50:50,480
Speaker 1: love was killing the funk out each other and it

979
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:52,800
Speaker 1: wasn't coming to the end. It was like, really the

980
00:50:52,920 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: small ass city like just it's like probably like if

981
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:57,759
Speaker 1: a war was going on in Company, they had nothing

982
00:50:57,760 --> 00:50:59,760
Speaker 1: to do with l A and it's like a compan

983
00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: it's like a straight East Oakland thing, and it's a

984
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,080
Speaker 1: fucking war. And the city is so small you can't

985
00:51:07,120 --> 00:51:10,680
Speaker 1: even really like get gash. You can't you can't use

986
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: a phone booth, you can't motherfucking stop by your auntie

987
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 1: husk because never everybody know everything, know where the funk

988
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,080
Speaker 1: you be. So niggas is getting it like a nigga

989
00:51:19,120 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 1: who you know you noticed niggas stay on the defense,

990
00:51:23,600 --> 00:51:25,600
Speaker 1: but somebody walked up to his car and shot him.

991
00:51:25,960 --> 00:51:27,880
Speaker 1: Who welcome to your car and shot you somebody? You

992
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:31,320
Speaker 1: fucking no, you stay on the defense and nigga just

993
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,520
Speaker 1: walk up and shoot you in the car. That's somebody.

994
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,279
Speaker 1: You fucking new that. It started being like that, and

995
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,320
Speaker 1: it's like I just felt like, I'm like, man, the

996
00:51:39,400 --> 00:51:42,279
Speaker 1: way this is going, I'm like, because niggas was like

997
00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: nigas in homicide fucking serial killer mode. This nigga's out there,

998
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,440
Speaker 1: It's like I'm trying to get away with a lot

999
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 1: of murders right now. I'm trying to kill everybody I

1000
00:51:52,080 --> 00:51:55,400
Speaker 1: don't like. And then they're bunch of them niggas is

1001
00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:58,040
Speaker 1: roaming the streets and I'm like, damn, somebody I know

1002
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,880
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna kill me, and it's just gonna be

1003
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 1: like whatever reason funk you up because you hang out

1004
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:07,880
Speaker 1: with them niggas or something like, Man, I sized that

1005
00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,880
Speaker 1: land up. I'm like, man, I'm I'm fucking about to

1006
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 1: go kicking. When they're having the party they having freak

1007
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 1: nick Jack the rapper like the police and open is

1008
00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:22,520
Speaker 1: like wearing me the funk out. I ain't got no license,

1009
00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,560
Speaker 1: can't stop me. Every time they see me. They handcuffing me,

1010
00:52:25,719 --> 00:52:29,800
Speaker 1: searching me, arresting me, releasing me, just fucking with me

1011
00:52:30,840 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 1: and fucking h I go that land of the police

1012
00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:37,520
Speaker 1: is like, what's up? Too short? I'm like, this killing

1013
00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 1: as harassing as chip I'm gonna enjoy. It's like when

1014
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 1: you go down there, man, it kind of makes you

1015
00:52:44,680 --> 00:52:47,080
Speaker 1: feel good because you go down there, you go to

1016
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: a restaurant, you see a black woman in the kitchen

1017
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:52,200
Speaker 1: actually making me a soul getting my people. I love everybody,

1018
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 1: but it's just on the soulful spot. It was. It

1019
00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: was a different look to see that in the nineties.

1020
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,400
Speaker 1: It was just a different just to see everything just

1021
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 1: lacking in the police, everybody just just it was black love.

1022
00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:10,239
Speaker 1: So I get down to Atlanta. It's ninety four, the

1023
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:12,400
Speaker 1: beginning that I've moved to my house, like right at

1024
00:53:12,440 --> 00:53:15,280
Speaker 1: Christmas nine three, So it's ninety four. I'm in Atlanta

1025
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 1: and the loonis who pretty much all the ship that

1026
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:24,279
Speaker 1: was going down musically even was was inspired by us

1027
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: or you know, somehow you got the game that I

1028
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,600
Speaker 1: the game that I got from Dean. I get the

1029
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: game to the whole fucking city. I gave everybody the

1030
00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:33,520
Speaker 1: game on how you fucking this is what you do.

1031
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: You gotta get your ship man, you gotta go get

1032
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,680
Speaker 1: in mad faith, you gotta take it over here to

1033
00:53:36,719 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 1: sell it. I told everybody the game. If you can

1034
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: get you're a rapper. If you can find it a

1035
00:53:40,200 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: deep way with some money, I'll show you how to

1036
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:45,360
Speaker 1: do it. Chris did the formula. They all did the formula,

1037
00:53:45,600 --> 00:53:50,000
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of niggas. And Chris had brought the

1038
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 1: Louis around a while ago. Drew Down, his first album

1039
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:56,800
Speaker 1: was made in my studio by Aunt Banks. So I'm like,

1040
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,040
Speaker 1: I never got a dime off drew Down album. I

1041
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,080
Speaker 1: never got a dime from Banks for that. I never

1042
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,400
Speaker 1: got a dye for studio time. That was the homie,

1043
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: you Know's what I'm saying. That's like it was Chris.

1044
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,480
Speaker 1: Artists use the studio, go ahead, yeah, banks, just pay

1045
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:12,839
Speaker 1: banks and look it up. So the Looney's come out

1046
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:18,239
Speaker 1: with this fucking song called player Hater and the song

1047
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: says there's something some ship about some hater ass motherfucker

1048
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: and be like, and that's all I said, That's why

1049
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:25,880
Speaker 1: the town got rid of Short. And I'm like, these

1050
00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:28,360
Speaker 1: the Little Homies. I'm like, y'all niggers can't say that.

1051
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,440
Speaker 1: And the radio station played it a lot, they put

1052
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:35,240
Speaker 1: it in rotation. So I had a song I dropped

1053
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: called Cocktails, m H. And Cocktails was getting a lot

1054
00:54:42,080 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: of love. The video was dope. It was getting love everywhere.

1055
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,839
Speaker 1: All the cities that was loving me, Detroit, Chicago, they

1056
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 1: wouldn't play it. The Bay radio station wouldn't play Cocktails,

1057
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,600
Speaker 1: and and I cornered them, I'm like, you know, so,

1058
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:55,399
Speaker 1: what's the reason why you want to spending They're like, well,

1059
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 1: you know, we were more into supporting the local artists,

1060
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:00,520
Speaker 1: which was some bullshit there was. I don't know why

1061
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:02,719
Speaker 1: they turned on me, but it was like, we're more

1062
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: supporting the local artists, and you moved to Atlanta, so

1063
00:55:05,040 --> 00:55:06,359
Speaker 1: it's kind of like you out of sight, you out

1064
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:09,080
Speaker 1: of mind, and you know, there's nothing personal, but we

1065
00:55:09,239 --> 00:55:12,920
Speaker 1: just we just promote the local scene. So that was

1066
00:55:13,080 --> 00:55:16,439
Speaker 1: that was the beginning ninety five. So the summer jam

1067
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:21,400
Speaker 1: I'm mad now because they didn't they didn't support my record.

1068
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,440
Speaker 1: The radio station used to call us when they needed

1069
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:27,440
Speaker 1: some a good look in the community. They call us.

1070
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,840
Speaker 1: They called niggas like me and be like, can you

1071
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:33,240
Speaker 1: be a part of this event? So this the community,

1072
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 1: you know, we're down. It's a radio station. Came in

1073
00:55:35,320 --> 00:55:36,920
Speaker 1: on one of six, but they used to be a

1074
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: rock station in the eighties. So when they started doing

1075
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,520
Speaker 1: hip hop and ship people was like still on the

1076
00:55:43,560 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: other station, cas or ell. They had to kind of

1077
00:55:46,520 --> 00:55:49,080
Speaker 1: like do some things that win them over. So people

1078
00:55:49,160 --> 00:55:51,600
Speaker 1: like me showing up to their events, help them start

1079
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: getting listeners, help them just get a you know, certified

1080
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:58,200
Speaker 1: in the hood. So I was mad at they played

1081
00:55:58,239 --> 00:55:59,680
Speaker 1: the song. Then I was mad that they didn't play

1082
00:55:59,719 --> 00:56:02,520
Speaker 1: my song. So I pull up to the Summer Jam

1083
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,759
Speaker 1: and fucking um, I just pull up there, you know,

1084
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:12,360
Speaker 1: and no credentials, nothing, and they're like, I performed at

1085
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: the previous two summer jams. So they're like, we'll give

1086
00:56:15,160 --> 00:56:17,160
Speaker 1: me some passes. They gave me four passes if they

1087
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:20,759
Speaker 1: sucked around and gave me the stick on passes every

1088
00:56:20,800 --> 00:56:23,120
Speaker 1: time we walked in their phone niggas. Every time we

1089
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:25,960
Speaker 1: walked in there, one of the homies went out with

1090
00:56:26,120 --> 00:56:27,680
Speaker 1: the with the foe passes and came back in with

1091
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,880
Speaker 1: three new niggas. We did that ship. We got like

1092
00:56:29,920 --> 00:56:31,960
Speaker 1: fifty niggas up in there by the time by the

1093
00:56:32,040 --> 00:56:34,759
Speaker 1: time they realized what we had done that they wanted

1094
00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 1: starting negotiating and asking us if we were all cool y'all,

1095
00:56:37,880 --> 00:56:39,680
Speaker 1: like we ain't leaving back out, like you know what,

1096
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: what what's up anyone? I'm I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm coming

1097
00:56:42,840 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 1: them down. We ain't here to do nothing. Man, all

1098
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:47,520
Speaker 1: you gotta do is you've got the whole bay area

1099
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:49,480
Speaker 1: out there. You got to walk me and the Looney's

1100
00:56:49,480 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: out there and tell the motherfucking bay that ain't no

1101
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:55,719
Speaker 1: motherfucking beef because they turned the ship into like like

1102
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: the Loonies was so young and gangster that they let

1103
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: me pulled up on me. Was like you got to

1104
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:02,320
Speaker 1: move by the Oakland nigga like that. That's what the

1105
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:04,200
Speaker 1: That's what the word went. And I was like, i

1106
00:57:04,280 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: ain't gonna fight whatever your rumor is. I'm just just

1107
00:57:07,320 --> 00:57:10,400
Speaker 1: standing up and tell the bag that a number leve

1108
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,879
Speaker 1: between the Loonies and me, because immediately after the ship

1109
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,040
Speaker 1: came out, they was like, man, we was just mad

1110
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:17,600
Speaker 1: and it wasn't even like that because you we thought

1111
00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: she was gonna sign us or or the day when

1112
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:21,720
Speaker 1: were it was over the battle rapping one of my

1113
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:24,400
Speaker 1: little rappers one day and we all hiked it like

1114
00:57:24,600 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 1: like the loonies loss and rap around in one it

1115
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:28,960
Speaker 1: was feelings hurt. It was like a lot of ship.

1116
00:57:29,400 --> 00:57:33,840
Speaker 1: So that's the story Chris was saying the day at

1117
00:57:33,880 --> 00:57:35,800
Speaker 1: the summer Jam. He was trying to explain it to us,

1118
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 1: the story about about how they looked up to me

1119
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 1: and I heard they feelings and they made the song

1120
00:57:41,560 --> 00:57:44,439
Speaker 1: because it was you know, they was mad. But then

1121
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,920
Speaker 1: one of my homies was in the room that we

1122
00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:50,200
Speaker 1: chopping up, chopping it up with and a lot of

1123
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: niggas don't know that the back story, but the homie

1124
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,960
Speaker 1: and Chris was sucking the same broad at some point

1125
00:57:56,960 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: in time, and the broad told the broad toe the

1126
00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:06,720
Speaker 1: other homie, not Chris. She told the other homie that

1127
00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: Chris said, you know, I don't even know why you

1128
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 1: with them broadcast niggas or while you're sucking that broadcast nigga,

1129
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: you know, like like he got more money than the

1130
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:16,760
Speaker 1: nigga pillow talking, which is always be chelling some ship

1131
00:58:17,240 --> 00:58:19,040
Speaker 1: when you're sitting there telling the bitch while you're laying

1132
00:58:19,080 --> 00:58:21,800
Speaker 1: sideways something bad about the next niggas somehow the ship

1133
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: always get back to the nigga. So so the homie

1134
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:27,520
Speaker 1: was like Christmas, just talking story. We kind of like

1135
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,040
Speaker 1: we was trying to work out the thing where we

1136
00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 1: could walk on stage and ship and the homies just

1137
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: sitting there twitching and ship looking at Chris to other's

1138
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:37,880
Speaker 1: sucking story about the loonies uh being phyllis hurt and ship.

1139
00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:41,640
Speaker 1: And then he just yelled out, ain't about all that

1140
00:58:41,760 --> 00:58:44,080
Speaker 1: fucking ship, Chris and just two pieces in the ship

1141
00:58:44,200 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: and kicked him in. They turned the story and then

1142
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:48,720
Speaker 1: we jumped into some ship. But really it was all

1143
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:52,000
Speaker 1: emotional and Nigga was all he was only mad about

1144
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:53,920
Speaker 1: the bitch and with the bitch said he had been

1145
00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: mad about this ship, and I like the other version

1146
00:58:57,560 --> 00:58:58,760
Speaker 1: of the story. And to go out a lot and

1147
00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 1: make it seem so gangsous like we wrote him. To

1148
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:03,480
Speaker 1: the concert, Vintide dragged the nigga, beat him down and

1149
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: ship did not happen. It didn't happen. The radio station

1150
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:14,720
Speaker 1: tried to um to do a slander campaign on me

1151
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: after after the concert, and they tried to say they

1152
00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,560
Speaker 1: put the story out there. We did all that ship

1153
00:59:20,640 --> 00:59:23,080
Speaker 1: like we came up there like like like start a ride,

1154
00:59:23,360 --> 00:59:26,240
Speaker 1: and they shut the show down early. It was supposed

1155
00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,160
Speaker 1: to be like two more groups that went on. Forty

1156
00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:30,240
Speaker 1: didn't didn't get to go on that night. They tried

1157
00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 1: to start some ship between me and for it. All

1158
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: this ship, all this ship came from the whole. It's

1159
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,000
Speaker 1: all like a downblod effect. Like literally the reason why

1160
00:59:39,120 --> 00:59:41,040
Speaker 1: me and E forty make a million songs right now

1161
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,640
Speaker 1: to this day is because of that concert and at

1162
00:59:43,960 --> 00:59:46,400
Speaker 1: incident and the fact that the radio station tried to

1163
00:59:46,440 --> 00:59:48,680
Speaker 1: turn us against each other. And we've been homing with

1164
00:59:48,800 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: some motherfucker alone E forty and his brother and uh

1165
00:59:53,320 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: my nigga p and all the niggas in from Oakland.

1166
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: The Niga is Oakland. Niga is just all sell dope

1167
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,520
Speaker 1: together and had been family and rans blown before the

1168
01:00:01,680 --> 01:00:04,680
Speaker 1: radio station try to turn me and Forty against each other.

1169
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:08,240
Speaker 1: They're like a radio station tried to try to get

1170
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,720
Speaker 1: into like like the whole other side of like get

1171
01:00:10,800 --> 01:00:13,440
Speaker 1: involved in some street ship and like and canceled me

1172
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:15,760
Speaker 1: out of some ship. They thought they was gonna turn

1173
01:00:15,880 --> 01:00:18,520
Speaker 1: Forty on me, and then Forty and his crew they

1174
01:00:18,840 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: big inside of something. They're just gonna smash me. I

1175
01:00:21,120 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 1: don't know what the funk They thought, I don't know,

1176
01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:25,600
Speaker 1: and then they thought that they was gonna tell people

1177
01:00:25,600 --> 01:00:27,959
Speaker 1: because they're the radio station, to stop supporting Too Short.

1178
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,560
Speaker 1: But I'm like, I'm like, nigg even though y'all ain't

1179
01:00:31,560 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: playing my record, the whole damn Bay Area bought the

1180
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: record and everybody loving the album, like you can't. You

1181
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:42,120
Speaker 1: can't take a street artist like I don't like ninety

1182
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,240
Speaker 1: two point three to be, couldn't take a street artist

1183
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,280
Speaker 1: and say, l A, don't listen to this artist. No more,

1184
01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:49,080
Speaker 1: like we don't listen to this thing because he on

1185
01:00:49,120 --> 01:00:51,720
Speaker 1: the radio. You know what I'm saying. And I was like,

1186
01:00:52,400 --> 01:00:54,560
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, I made songs about that ship

1187
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: on my next album. It's called That's Why the Town

1188
01:00:58,160 --> 01:00:59,520
Speaker 1: Got Rid of Short. That's the name of the song.

1189
01:01:00,280 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you the whole story. And I and

1190
01:01:03,320 --> 01:01:06,800
Speaker 1: the story. I told the fucking truth. And literally I

1191
01:01:06,880 --> 01:01:09,720
Speaker 1: put the album out. That was was that the fucking

1192
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:14,600
Speaker 1: getting the album. I put the song out, Everybody shut up,

1193
01:01:15,320 --> 01:01:17,920
Speaker 1: nobody starts talking, Nobody talking about it no more. It

1194
01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,600
Speaker 1: could nobody dispeak what I said in the story I felt.

1195
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,640
Speaker 1: I put everybody's name, And I told the whole goddamn

1196
01:01:23,720 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: story about the thirty thousand the movie. It's all in

1197
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,720
Speaker 1: the song and to this day, nobody can dispute what

1198
01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: the funk happened, Like there is no other version of

1199
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,960
Speaker 1: the story. Let me ask you this man, and we

1200
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:38,240
Speaker 1: can wrap it up in a minute. But we're sitting

1201
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:42,440
Speaker 1: there with too short about you do your research, you

1202
01:01:42,560 --> 01:01:44,680
Speaker 1: go back, you go back to ship. I don't even know,

1203
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:47,160
Speaker 1: you know, because this is against the chronicles. Man, So

1204
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 1: we got to talk about some stuff just going on

1205
01:01:49,480 --> 01:01:52,040
Speaker 1: now the streets. Man, what do you feel about the

1206
01:01:52,120 --> 01:01:54,400
Speaker 1: political climb? And no, man, what's going on with black

1207
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:58,520
Speaker 1: American man? Just in general? All right, well, well you

1208
01:01:58,760 --> 01:02:01,880
Speaker 1: he probably knocking interrupt, but he kind of spoke on

1209
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,080
Speaker 1: it a little bit earlier when he said ship the

1210
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:07,400
Speaker 1: police was always fuller the nigger over and all that. So,

1211
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,720
Speaker 1: you know, just trying to uh kind of elaborate on

1212
01:02:10,840 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: that ship of how it really ain't nothing changed. But

1213
01:02:14,520 --> 01:02:16,760
Speaker 1: you know, the thing that we're dealing with now is

1214
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,440
Speaker 1: you gotta realize right now that from the intro a

1215
01:02:24,600 --> 01:02:31,360
Speaker 1: crack when you found out how freeway freeway rick because

1216
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:34,120
Speaker 1: all in that circle of the ship with the fucking

1217
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: war they was funding and the c i A Was

1218
01:02:37,600 --> 01:02:40,840
Speaker 1: was letting the dope land in l A. You think

1219
01:02:40,880 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: about that ship, and um, you think about the Dave.

1220
01:02:47,920 --> 01:02:51,560
Speaker 1: Ronald Reagan said I declare war on drugs, and they

1221
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 1: came with to just say no. And it was like

1222
01:02:53,600 --> 01:02:57,960
Speaker 1: this whole scare tactic campaign about the you know, the

1223
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 1: scary criminals in the inner cities and ship. So then

1224
01:03:01,960 --> 01:03:06,240
Speaker 1: then we got the crack. Now, I know, in nineteen

1225
01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:11,360
Speaker 1: uh whatever the funk eighty whatever, when they start free

1226
01:03:11,400 --> 01:03:15,240
Speaker 1: basing cocaine, why no motherfucking nigga went and spent a

1227
01:03:15,360 --> 01:03:17,160
Speaker 1: hundred dollars on some powder and said, she I'm gonna

1228
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: pour this into a bottle of water and let's set

1229
01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 1: it on fire and make it turn into a rock.

1230
01:03:21,840 --> 01:03:24,080
Speaker 1: That that'shi is some chemistry ship and ship there is

1231
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:29,040
Speaker 1: some science ship. And when the crack was economically broken

1232
01:03:29,080 --> 01:03:32,000
Speaker 1: down to be affordable in the ghetto, and the ship

1233
01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:35,320
Speaker 1: was given to people like Freeway Rick just you know,

1234
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: like just here you free to selets man. All that

1235
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 1: ship was one big fucking setup, bron The ship was

1236
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:45,760
Speaker 1: a set up to where you know, you know, the gangs,

1237
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:47,840
Speaker 1: I don't even know where wrapped. The games would have winning.

1238
01:03:47,920 --> 01:03:50,080
Speaker 1: If it wasn't for crack, they wouldn't they wouldn't have

1239
01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:53,440
Speaker 1: turned into crack gangs. Gangs would have been They probably wouldn't.

1240
01:03:53,600 --> 01:03:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't know, you know what I'm saying, It wouldn't

1241
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,400
Speaker 1: have been with it what it is. And then so

1242
01:03:58,560 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 1: that all of a sudden we like eighty five is cracked.

1243
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,120
Speaker 1: Thing is jumping off and a couple of years into

1244
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:06,160
Speaker 1: that ship. Now if you got a rock and a

1245
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 1: fucking gun, they really put you away for hell along,

1246
01:04:09,240 --> 01:04:11,160
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then then they you know,

1247
01:04:11,280 --> 01:04:13,120
Speaker 1: the whole ship with the powder and ship, and they

1248
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: you know, the white waves, it just song out of

1249
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 1: powder and ship, and they like ain't really stressing them

1250
01:04:17,720 --> 01:04:19,240
Speaker 1: out at all. But you can get caught with a

1251
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:21,320
Speaker 1: gun at some powder and you don't get eighty thou

1252
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,720
Speaker 1: years in jail. But if you got a fucking rocking again,

1253
01:04:24,040 --> 01:04:28,800
Speaker 1: your asses out. And and then not only so, so,

1254
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:34,760
Speaker 1: not only was the UH setting all these these situations

1255
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,960
Speaker 1: up for you to get fucked off, there was purposely

1256
01:04:38,640 --> 01:04:41,920
Speaker 1: pressing the line in the hood. So only mostly like

1257
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:44,160
Speaker 1: on our side, Mexicans and niggas got it, you know

1258
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,120
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. On the other side, Puerto Ricans and

1259
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: niggas got you know what I'm saying. It wasn't They

1260
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,080
Speaker 1: wasn't pressing the line to bust people in the suburbs.

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01:04:51,120 --> 01:04:53,640
Speaker 1: There was only fucking with the hood. But the city

1262
01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 1: like open was signed up for the program on the

1263
01:04:57,520 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 1: worl on crime. So if you if you bust so

1264
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 1: many people and convict so many people, will send you

1265
01:05:02,640 --> 01:05:05,000
Speaker 1: more weapons. We'll send you more budget, We'll send you

1266
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,400
Speaker 1: more cars. Like you know what I'm saying. So they

1267
01:05:07,480 --> 01:05:11,760
Speaker 1: had incentive policing to get the numbers up because they

1268
01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:13,680
Speaker 1: want the good numbers for the war on crime. So

1269
01:05:15,040 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: now they're setting up all these fucking laws. We're in

1270
01:05:17,600 --> 01:05:19,840
Speaker 1: the fucking trap fighting over the hood. We ain't buying

1271
01:05:19,880 --> 01:05:22,040
Speaker 1: the hood. We're killing each other over the block. And

1272
01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 1: niggas is just like just we ushered in a whole

1273
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 1: new era of slavery, modern day slavery, the massive carceration.

1274
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: They locked us to funk up. They locked all our

1275
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:37,160
Speaker 1: homies up. Nigga, if your homie got a cold case,

1276
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:40,040
Speaker 1: he wasn't too much different than the homie that got murdered.

1277
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,960
Speaker 1: You're like, damn, I ain't gonna see the homi nume

1278
01:05:42,040 --> 01:05:47,960
Speaker 1: mother go on. And in nineteen eighty the stats or

1279
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 1: something like when Ronald Reagan said war on crime, it

1280
01:05:51,640 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: was probably like five thousand people in American jails prisons.

1281
01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:58,400
Speaker 1: Now it's like over two millions. And all the motherfucker's

1282
01:05:58,480 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: came from the hood, whole bunch of blacks and Hispanics,

1283
01:06:03,160 --> 01:06:08,920
Speaker 1: and basically they're just like they just they just out

1284
01:06:09,000 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: tripped this bro. We run around here talking a thug

1285
01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,439
Speaker 1: life and ship, and we could have been we could

1286
01:06:14,480 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: have been like the Italian mafia trying not damn this

1287
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,480
Speaker 1: to be drug dealers and pretend not to be cleaning

1288
01:06:20,520 --> 01:06:21,960
Speaker 1: that ship up and working around you know what I'm saying.

1289
01:06:22,120 --> 01:06:26,280
Speaker 1: We just we we wrote it out and fucking I

1290
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: want the young homies that know right now that if

1291
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:32,479
Speaker 1: you're calling the the the spot where you sell dope,

1292
01:06:32,560 --> 01:06:35,120
Speaker 1: the trap, nigga just listened to the word. It's a

1293
01:06:35,240 --> 01:06:38,760
Speaker 1: fucking trap. Like I've seen too many niggas, too many

1294
01:06:38,840 --> 01:06:44,840
Speaker 1: motherfucker's die or get all their youth taken away for

1295
01:06:44,960 --> 01:06:47,840
Speaker 1: that trap. And you're sitting there going on there, I

1296
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,480
Speaker 1: mean the trap you're bragging about the trap like we

1297
01:06:51,200 --> 01:06:54,720
Speaker 1: some of us got out. We didn't get the motherfucking

1298
01:06:55,040 --> 01:07:00,240
Speaker 1: twenty years since designed. It's a setup, it's all saying

1299
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: right now is a set up? And were the motherfucker's

1300
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: if you're from the eighties, you're the motherfucking generation they

1301
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:07,760
Speaker 1: got set the funk up the guinea pigs the first one.

1302
01:07:08,120 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: But how long is you gonna keep falling for the

1303
01:07:10,920 --> 01:07:16,960
Speaker 1: fact that, uh, you know, the ship that's gonna get

1304
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:19,880
Speaker 1: you all that time in jail. You know. Let me

1305
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:22,200
Speaker 1: ask you this because I always told him to me.

1306
01:07:22,360 --> 01:07:26,840
Speaker 1: James talk about vote. James has a certain feeling of

1307
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:29,200
Speaker 1: both vote. Do you feel like it's a waste of time?

1308
01:07:30,680 --> 01:07:34,200
Speaker 1: I feel that ship too, dog? What does it do?

1309
01:07:34,560 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 1: I mean, if you really look at vote or not,

1310
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,560
Speaker 1: I can't pay for the cause and I support certain

1311
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,720
Speaker 1: ship when I'm like, if I'm like not feeling a

1312
01:07:42,800 --> 01:07:46,280
Speaker 1: certain things in certain candidate, support the other motherfucker and

1313
01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 1: by doing benefit performances or or fucking PSA. What do

1314
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: you feel about this presidential I feel like, you know

1315
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:02,720
Speaker 1: you can even you can't even include Obama's to two terms.

1316
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 1: I'm feeling like, man, my whole life paints. I ain't

1317
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: seen nothing from the presidents except the same exact thing.

1318
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 1: But as a Democratic Republican, it's not ain't nobody coming

1319
01:08:16,200 --> 01:08:19,840
Speaker 1: through with these campaign premises and making ship happen. So

1320
01:08:20,120 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: motherfucker's need to stop tripping off of who the fucking

1321
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:25,519
Speaker 1: president is and start worrying about who the motherfucker's creating

1322
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:27,599
Speaker 1: the laws that funk with a lot of us. That's

1323
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:32,479
Speaker 1: what the sent is important as a local politics, politics

1324
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,920
Speaker 1: exactly like the local politics and the Senate really the

1325
01:08:35,960 --> 01:08:38,840
Speaker 1: ship that impacts us. What do you think James to

1326
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: be inquired and not looking I'm listening to Joe, but

1327
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, everything was a design. He

1328
01:08:46,040 --> 01:08:49,840
Speaker 1: goes way way before the eighties. With us, we put

1329
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:54,240
Speaker 1: ourselves in the situation because the police couldn't infiltrate, then

1330
01:08:54,479 --> 01:08:57,080
Speaker 1: they had one of us in there to do it.

1331
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,360
Speaker 1: And and we got a lot of brothers that soul

1332
01:09:00,920 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: brothers out back in those days for the short for

1333
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,080
Speaker 1: the little money that they did give, and then they

1334
01:09:07,200 --> 01:09:11,000
Speaker 1: created a program. They create programs to keep you where

1335
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:14,680
Speaker 1: you at, stagnate you just like with us, like when

1336
01:09:14,720 --> 01:09:18,439
Speaker 1: you say, ain't no father in the house. It shouldn't

1337
01:09:18,439 --> 01:09:20,160
Speaker 1: have really mattered if you had the daddy in the

1338
01:09:20,240 --> 01:09:22,240
Speaker 1: house or whatever. With all the ship that was going on.

1339
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: We we sat back and watched half of the ship

1340
01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 1: crack off, you go the way it went. You know

1341
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,519
Speaker 1: what I'm saying that now we're fighting and killing each

1342
01:09:30,520 --> 01:09:34,600
Speaker 1: other over the same ship. These motherfucker's putty here, you

1343
01:09:34,640 --> 01:09:36,479
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, Like you said, the trap, that's

1344
01:09:36,479 --> 01:09:39,280
Speaker 1: all that ship was. We sitting and we're sitting there

1345
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:43,439
Speaker 1: getting drunk, ain't paying attention, and passing ship through the windows,

1346
01:09:43,439 --> 01:09:46,240
Speaker 1: through the doors, the whole nine. We ain't giving the funk.

1347
01:09:46,280 --> 01:09:48,639
Speaker 1: But this is what they showed us where we was at,

1348
01:09:49,280 --> 01:09:51,439
Speaker 1: and we we funked with that. That's where we roll

1349
01:09:51,560 --> 01:09:54,760
Speaker 1: with and we're still doing it right now today. So

1350
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,040
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, man, you you catch a cold case,

1351
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:01,040
Speaker 1: you in your young twenties late and you catch a

1352
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:04,679
Speaker 1: cold case. You come home at thirty eight, forty years old,

1353
01:10:05,280 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 1: and basically you spend all them years working in there

1354
01:10:09,800 --> 01:10:16,519
Speaker 1: for fucking free, for free labor. How many people you

1355
01:10:16,680 --> 01:10:23,799
Speaker 1: lose them? There's so many. There's so many brothers in prison.

1356
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: That's because we don't know the law. And when they

1357
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:27,760
Speaker 1: get in there and get to spend the law to

1358
01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,320
Speaker 1: you thinking they've been helpy, but then at the end

1359
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,599
Speaker 1: of the day they stretch as. So what I'm saying

1360
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:35,040
Speaker 1: is I don't know how to tell the young homies

1361
01:10:35,560 --> 01:10:38,080
Speaker 1: how to preach and be like Brad go straight whatever.

1362
01:10:38,120 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: I wouldn't listening to nobody when I was young. I'm

1363
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 1: just like, get your motherfucking money. But it's a lot

1364
01:10:44,600 --> 01:10:47,720
Speaker 1: of ship out here, Like it's gonna benefit you more

1365
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:51,439
Speaker 1: without the fucking penitentiary chances. That's all I'm saying. And

1366
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,000
Speaker 1: do what the funk you gotta do whatever, but stay

1367
01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:58,880
Speaker 1: the funk out that prison, bro, And and I just

1368
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: in the law. I say this the same. Think back

1369
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:04,680
Speaker 1: to when you was a youngster, and the niggas who

1370
01:11:04,720 --> 01:11:07,640
Speaker 1: wrote the hardest, the niggas who wrote the hardest, and

1371
01:11:07,680 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: the niggasu them a little nerd niggasaid would never join

1372
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: the fucking game. The niggasu would never come around to

1373
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 1: block the niggas. You come home at thirty eight years old,

1374
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: and that little nigga gotta fine ass wife, beautiful family, nigga,

1375
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,160
Speaker 1: got nice ass cars and ship. You're like, you're like

1376
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:30,479
Speaker 1: that podcast niggas like they think of ben balling, and

1377
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:35,759
Speaker 1: we ain't too far from, you know from because niggas

1378
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:37,600
Speaker 1: got that that rich dream right now. They see the

1379
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:39,840
Speaker 1: just wrap shi the hip hop ship, this ball player ship,

1380
01:11:39,880 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: and they got that that million their dream. But you ain't.

1381
01:11:43,400 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 1: You ain't gonna achieve that unless you apply yourself to something.

1382
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 1: You gotta put your ten thousand hours and you gotta,

1383
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: you gotta, you gotta get some some working and you

1384
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:53,960
Speaker 1: gotta become an expert at something and and be good

1385
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,240
Speaker 1: at that ship. You just gotta pay your dudes and

1386
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,680
Speaker 1: put in your work and then ship should eventually if

1387
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:01,840
Speaker 1: you get the right you know, the right foundation behind you,

1388
01:12:01,960 --> 01:12:04,040
Speaker 1: in the right cup of group of niggas that can

1389
01:12:04,120 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: steer you on the right path. Like I said, o

1390
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: Gez used to be set up to try to steer

1391
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,080
Speaker 1: niggas on the right path. For letting niggas stay out

1392
01:12:11,120 --> 01:12:14,120
Speaker 1: and keep you keep keeping out the games, keep him

1393
01:12:14,160 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 1: in sports. You know that's what we need, you know.

1394
01:12:16,840 --> 01:12:20,280
Speaker 1: But other than that, man, you just nothing else matters. Man.

1395
01:12:20,439 --> 01:12:22,519
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, She been flipping the same

1396
01:12:22,600 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 1: way for for generations. You know what I'm saying. I

1397
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:27,240
Speaker 1: can say back to when I started running around. It

1398
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,439
Speaker 1: ain't changed, Like James say, you can vote for whatever,

1399
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,680
Speaker 1: take your choice, Democrat, Republican. But at the end of

1400
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: the day, start start peeping out what's going on in

1401
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:40,240
Speaker 1: your own section and your neighborhood, your city. Start peeping

1402
01:12:40,280 --> 01:12:43,240
Speaker 1: out the local government, Start peeping out what's happening in

1403
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:45,479
Speaker 1: the Senate and the people who make the laws, because

1404
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: that's that's what counts. Yeah, I think, I think what

1405
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say that is, uh, it's almost gangster.

1406
01:12:53,400 --> 01:12:56,960
Speaker 1: It's almost real gangster, not to be gangster in the

1407
01:12:57,040 --> 01:13:00,479
Speaker 1: long run. In the long run, you know what, man,

1408
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,840
Speaker 1: it is. And you know when I exchanged talking about

1409
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:05,599
Speaker 1: that man when you're talking to your brothers and sat

1410
01:13:05,640 --> 01:13:08,519
Speaker 1: here in the streets, man, that's what he tells them.

1411
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 1: He says, Man, it ain't no benefits to it, ain't

1412
01:13:11,479 --> 01:13:15,600
Speaker 1: no pinsion in it. It's just you better off just

1413
01:13:15,720 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: doing the right thing. And at this point nobody can remember,

1414
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:22,880
Speaker 1: like you really go around and just ask motherfucker's like

1415
01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:26,800
Speaker 1: like nigga, who who's your enemy? And be like why

1416
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,599
Speaker 1: and they're gonna tell you, like kill not be folled at,

1417
01:13:30,640 --> 01:13:33,000
Speaker 1: Like why is y'all? Why is y'all hoods enemies. Niggas

1418
01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,720
Speaker 1: don't even know why half the wards started. M hm.

1419
01:13:36,400 --> 01:13:38,560
Speaker 1: They don't even know. They don't even concern. They just

1420
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:41,960
Speaker 1: like lucked that, like that Chicago ship. They're like, nigga,

1421
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:46,360
Speaker 1: we can't even negotiate. They're keeping a tally on bodies.

1422
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,560
Speaker 1: They're like, we can't even negotiate the truths until we

1423
01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:52,040
Speaker 1: like got the same amount of bodies and knocking each

1424
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,960
Speaker 1: other down. Man, It's like, man, and like we y'all

1425
01:13:54,960 --> 01:13:57,040
Speaker 1: got it, y'all up on the sixteen fourteen, and so

1426
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,800
Speaker 1: give me to two bodies and we can talk about

1427
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:01,080
Speaker 1: the truth. Then, well, you know, the man, one of

1428
01:14:01,120 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: the things we always talk about man, you know, black

1429
01:14:03,400 --> 01:14:05,920
Speaker 1: lives matter. Man, If a police officers do something, somebody,

1430
01:14:05,960 --> 01:14:09,960
Speaker 1: we go to these cities with marks, But why not

1431
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:12,960
Speaker 1: we why we that we should have that same energy? Man?

1432
01:14:13,240 --> 01:14:16,080
Speaker 1: For one of somebody ride through the hood and knocked

1433
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:19,160
Speaker 1: down little Tommy. Somebody go out there knockdown little Lisa.

1434
01:14:19,200 --> 01:14:20,479
Speaker 1: You see what I'm saying. We need to have a

1435
01:14:20,600 --> 01:14:24,439
Speaker 1: justifiably we are used to killing each other. That's just

1436
01:14:24,600 --> 01:14:28,000
Speaker 1: like like I know you, I'm gonna fight, I'm gonna

1437
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: argue with you were far gonna argue with these motherfucker's.

1438
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:33,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. We used to. We this is what

1439
01:14:33,360 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: we we learned growing up, you know what I'm saying.

1440
01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: So it's a big difference. We rather fight in house

1441
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:44,280
Speaker 1: than go out and fight. These white boys just talking

1442
01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,200
Speaker 1: about killing us and they home there on mother every

1443
01:14:47,240 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: platform talking about y'all, wait, we're coming. It's gonna be

1444
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: a war if Trump lose, We're gonna we're coming at

1445
01:14:54,680 --> 01:14:57,479
Speaker 1: You're really interested to see what happens is this selection, man,

1446
01:14:57,479 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 1: because I don't think oh boy could lead office. I

1447
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:01,920
Speaker 1: I don't think there's enough militia out there to beat

1448
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:08,240
Speaker 1: up together. That's yeah, y'all to be surprised, man, y'all

1449
01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:12,919
Speaker 1: to be surprised with these motherfucker's got if a motherfucker mothers,

1450
01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:19,360
Speaker 1: they they got some ship. Yeah, motherfucker. How out to

1451
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:21,599
Speaker 1: all the inner city, everybody in the inn city standing

1452
01:15:21,680 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 1: by staying down and staying by the fun. Man. But

1453
01:15:25,160 --> 01:15:29,680
Speaker 1: you see what you're doing the the what's the councilman?

1454
01:15:29,800 --> 01:15:34,200
Speaker 1: Check that the white boys was kidnapping? Man, they tell

1455
01:15:34,320 --> 01:15:38,000
Speaker 1: about kidnapping and kill the motherfuckers because if you ain't,

1456
01:15:38,080 --> 01:15:40,559
Speaker 1: if you ain't on board with Trump. Man, you're in trumping,

1457
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:43,439
Speaker 1: but I don't even follow politics. I will see what happened.

1458
01:15:44,920 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: One I could have never in a million years could

1459
01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:51,080
Speaker 1: have predicted. Ship is crazy. Man. It's almost like the

1460
01:15:51,240 --> 01:15:53,720
Speaker 1: Park Lips and Sun, but fucking ninety nine years else.

1461
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,720
Speaker 1: I ain't never seen no ship like this. Man. Sure, man,

1462
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:00,680
Speaker 1: you know what. Man, I appreciate you. Man. Happen us over.

1463
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:06,880
Speaker 1: Man to your beautiful compound. Man giving us a dope interview. Man. Man,

1464
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Speaker 1: you guys, Man, we thank y'all for coming in here.

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Speaker 1: of us will hit the hold me too short man,

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