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Speaker 1: You want to chat with me eight four or four
Speaker 1: eight to five eight four four nine d buck. We
Speaker 1: should definitely have a talk about all of all of
Speaker 1: the things that are going on right now in the world,
Speaker 1: whatever is on your mind, whatever particularly catches your fancy. Um, So,
Speaker 1: the biggest thing going on right now is the march
Speaker 1: to the wall. Now, when I say that, you could
Speaker 1: think of two things. One, this caravan that has decided
Speaker 1: that it is it is no longer going do we
Speaker 1: have the caravan has stopped for now? Right but I
Speaker 1: would not take that to the bank, folks. Cart caravans, stop,
Speaker 1: caravans go. It's the nature of these things. It might
Speaker 1: just be laying low until the political winds shift a
Speaker 1: little bit. They may decide to go to a different area,
Speaker 1: try and cross. We shall see. We will delve into that.
Speaker 1: But we could also be talking about the march to
Speaker 1: our border from the north by members of the National Guard.
Speaker 1: President Trump has sent the National Guard to the border
Speaker 1: to help with border security in response to the unacceptable
Speaker 1: flow of drugs, criminal activity, and illegal immigrants. Before I
Speaker 1: go much deeper into what all this means, let's just
Speaker 1: ask a very basic question. I want to focus on immigration,
Speaker 1: the basics of it in some ways, because we have
Speaker 1: to deprogram ourselves. Much of what we believe, much of
Speaker 1: what we think when it comes to immigration, is in
Speaker 1: fact not true, because there has been a concerted campaign,
Speaker 1: a collaboration, if you will, between the Democrats and the
Speaker 1: left wing mainstream media and the elite establishment in this country,
Speaker 1: and and a by bipartisan fashion. Folks, a lot of
Speaker 1: a publicans get blame on this one too. But to
Speaker 1: convince us all that immigration doesn't really need to be
Speaker 1: enforced immigration is always good. The more the merrier, in fact,
Speaker 1: not just the more of the marrier. We have an
Speaker 1: obligation to take in as many people from the third
Speaker 1: world as possible, as many people who can come into
Speaker 1: the country who are in desperate need of assistance. That
Speaker 1: would because we have an obligation, because we've done bad
Speaker 1: things in the rest of the world. You see, it
Speaker 1: is in some ways an expansion or an addendum to
Speaker 1: the post colonial thinking of the academic elite. Right. They
Speaker 1: think America did all these bad things all over the world,
Speaker 1: and that's why there are problems. Why is the midiast
Speaker 1: so messed up? Oh, it's America's fault, right. Why is
Speaker 1: South America Central America? Why do they have all these
Speaker 1: problems they've got depending on the country. Uh, it's America's fault.
Speaker 1: So what should we do to make up for it?
Speaker 1: Just bring them in. The more of the merrier, right,
Speaker 1: the more people we can bring into this country, the better.
Speaker 1: Why is why does Mexico have the problems that it tells?
Speaker 1: They'll say it's America's fault. In fact, on the very
Speaker 1: issue of the opioid epidemic, of of the drugs that
Speaker 1: are flooding into this country from Mexico. You will notice
Speaker 1: that there are there are Mexican politicians. I have heard
Speaker 1: them say it, and there are certainly a lot of
Speaker 1: journalists as well who blame the problems of Mexico's police
Speaker 1: and governmental corruption on the United States, because you see,
Speaker 1: we're the market for the drugs. Therefore, it's our fault
Speaker 1: that cartel's run parts of that country the way they do.
Speaker 1: It's our fault that there is endemic corruption across the
Speaker 1: Mexican government and security forces. Right What most people don't
Speaker 1: ever get to stop and think is, hold on a second,
Speaker 1: what is it due to our country we have? You know,
Speaker 1: we have a country right next door that is turning
Speaker 1: a blind eye to vast illegal immigration that has been
Speaker 1: going on for decades. And that is a necessary component
Speaker 1: of the strategy of setting up uh coyotes, smugglers, setting
Speaker 1: up these smuggling networks, establishing forward operating positions for the
Speaker 1: drug cartels in America for the distribution distribution of substances
Speaker 1: that are now killing over sixty thousand of US a year.
Speaker 1: And as I've said to you, and it should not
Speaker 1: have been hard to figure this out, but it's taken
Speaker 1: some time, some number crunching, and finally the truth is
Speaker 1: getting out. It's not mostly oxycon that people are overdosing on.
Speaker 1: It's not mostly drugs that you can actually get a
Speaker 1: prescription for and for which there are real medical needs.
Speaker 1: That's a component of the problem, but it is a
Speaker 1: much smaller piece of this puzzle, and we've been led
Speaker 1: to leave Why is that all? Because if Americans actually
Speaker 1: started to think, hold on a second, having an unsecure border,
Speaker 1: having vast, uncontrolled, near unrestricted illegal immigration into the country
Speaker 1: for years and years and years, isn't just a problem
Speaker 1: for the economy. It isn't just a problem for cultural cohesion.
Speaker 1: It's a security problem that is costing thousands of lives
Speaker 1: each year. You do not have, You flatly do not
Speaker 1: have the heroin overdoses and fentanyl overdoses that have been
Speaker 1: occurring in this country. If they weren't growing heroin now
Speaker 1: in the highlands of Mexico, a lot harder to get
Speaker 1: the stuff here from Afghanistan, folks, if you didn't have
Speaker 1: cartels both making their own illegal fentanyl and bringing in
Speaker 1: from vast labs in China, so it moves from the
Speaker 1: Chinese labs into Mexico and then across our border via
Speaker 1: the Mexican cartel pipelines, which are the same pipelines as
Speaker 1: illegal and it's the same pipelines that use human smuggling.
Speaker 1: In fact, the human smuggling networks provide money for these
Speaker 1: organizations that are also moving to drugs. The same thing, right,
Speaker 1: if you're if you know where, if you're moving people
Speaker 1: across the board, if you're doing illegal things, why would
Speaker 1: you stop it? Moving people who as we know also
Speaker 1: we'll sometimes get killed in the process. A lot of
Speaker 1: women are are raped by this, the smugglers. The terrible
Speaker 1: things happen due to the human smuggling involving we call
Speaker 1: them coyotes, you know, but the human smugglers tied to
Speaker 1: the cartels. And we're having this this change in perception
Speaker 1: about what this all means for us. You know that
Speaker 1: we have a multibillion dollar media apparatus in this country.
Speaker 1: We have I can't even count how many different I
Speaker 1: can't even name all the different organizations that have investigative reporters,
Speaker 1: that's what they call them, investigative reporters on their staffs.
Speaker 1: How many of them have been investigating what's going on
Speaker 1: with MS thirteen, last couple of years, last ten years,
Speaker 1: even very few, There are some, but very few. How
Speaker 1: many of them are looking into the opioid epidemic and
Speaker 1: tying it to illegal immigrant communities because it is necessary
Speaker 1: for the cartels to have illegal immigrants in an area
Speaker 1: that they can use for cover for the actions are taken,
Speaker 1: which is selling the drugs that are killing so many
Speaker 1: of us, and looking at what's going on across the border,
Speaker 1: and also any complicity on the part of the Mexican government.
Speaker 1: The answer is very very few. Why is that because
Speaker 1: they're not interested in it. Why it's a fascinating story,
Speaker 1: isn't it. And you've got you've got life and death issues, drugs, cartels, violence,
Speaker 1: government corruption, nation changing stuff here over the long run,
Speaker 1: with the flow of illegals into the country, what that
Speaker 1: does to our political climate, what it does to our
Speaker 1: economy over time, and and and then the drug drug
Speaker 1: epidemic worse than it's ever been, hitting hearts of the
Speaker 1: country that aren't used to thinking about any kind of
Speaker 1: criminal threat that could be mortal. Really right, it's hitting
Speaker 1: areas that otherwise would be quite safe and quite peaceful,
Speaker 1: and we're it's just all now coming out, and why
Speaker 1: because we have a president that we have been told
Speaker 1: by that same media is a liar, is allowed, is grotesque,
Speaker 1: doesn't know anything. And here we are finally having the discussion.
Speaker 1: The truth is coming out. It's taken quite a while.
Speaker 1: It's becoming acceptable to discuss these issues in public and
Speaker 1: not worry you're gonna lose your job, lose your reputation
Speaker 1: because the left can't change the facts. They can hide them,
Speaker 1: but they can't really change them. They can come up
Speaker 1: with fake news, but the truth is in fact to
Speaker 1: borrow from. Um, what's the show with the aliens? With
Speaker 1: the FBI guys, you know what I'm talking about, the
Speaker 1: X files. The truth is out there. The truth is
Speaker 1: out there. It's out there own immigration. So I think
Speaker 1: the Trump sending a national guard is essential. And the
Speaker 1: I don't even know if I ask you this basic question.
Speaker 1: This is where I was going initially, and then I
Speaker 1: got a little bit of a rant, a little of
Speaker 1: a tear. Why didn't other presidents do this? This is
Speaker 1: a national security issue. Why hasn't the national Guard? And
Speaker 1: I know what people say, it's been done, but bomb administration,
Speaker 1: I didn't want to do this. Why and why is
Speaker 1: it so strange to the media that this is happening
Speaker 1: such a shock to them? Right now, we'll get into
Speaker 1: this and and much more. I have updates for you
Speaker 1: or it won't be all that much. But an update
Speaker 1: on the the YouTube shooting yesterday that was just because
Speaker 1: that was the whole thing is just bizarre. Only the
Speaker 1: shooter was killed, so that's very fortunate. Um. Well, we've
Speaker 1: got information on her, which I'm sure some of you
Speaker 1: have seen, but whoa, UM also discuss uh the latest
Speaker 1: of the Mother probe. Dershuitz will weigh in later on
Speaker 1: the show as a sound bite, not a guest. That
Speaker 1: makes it sounds like I was gonna have. We got
Speaker 1: Emily Compania, who honestly I'd much rather have than Dershwitz.
Speaker 1: So there's that. Um. We'll talk to her about what's
Speaker 1: going on with the Mother investigation at this point in time,
Speaker 1: and uh oh and Amazon and Trump and all the
Speaker 1: fighting over Amazon. Will get into that too, and Chinese tariffs. Man,
Speaker 1: I got we gotta packed. It's a good thing. I've
Speaker 1: got three hours. See I'm not I'm not, damn. Rather,
Speaker 1: I don't do a thirty minute show here. We'll talk
Speaker 1: about that as well. I just laid out a whole
Speaker 1: laundry list. Folks will hit it. I'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Stay with me. Word security is home in security, which
Speaker 1: is national security. It's not a partisan issue. It's not
Speaker 1: something we can separate out. It's core to being a
Speaker 1: sovereign nation. The President has reiterated this many times. In fact,
Speaker 1: he has specifically said that a sovereign nation that cannot
Speaker 1: or worse not chooses not to defend it supporters will
Speaker 1: soon seize, in fact, to be a savereign nation. The
Speaker 1: threat is real. D h S Secretary Kirsty Nielsen. They're
Speaker 1: saying that this is a security issue top to bottom,
Speaker 1: and it's time to do something about about the border.
Speaker 1: And this president has finally decided to be as proactive
Speaker 1: as he can on this issue. I think that he
Speaker 1: also recognized that the Omnibus bill upset a lot of
Speaker 1: us in his in his corner, myself included you know
Speaker 1: that I told you about that what had happened. I
Speaker 1: felt like the President did not give us. You know,
Speaker 1: it was not as promised. That is for sure. The
Speaker 1: Omnibus bill was not good enough. And the big part
Speaker 1: of it that was a miss. The fact that there
Speaker 1: was not really wall fund. There was a little wall funding,
Speaker 1: but nothing, nothing significant, not enough. And so now we're
Speaker 1: seeing a president who's taking all the actions that he
Speaker 1: can from a purely executive authority. Standpoint to here the
Speaker 1: border and who's who's the guests eating. The media is like, wow,
Speaker 1: the president that is going to go with the rule
Speaker 1: of law. Here, this we should really encourage. This is great,
Speaker 1: you know. Oh no, oh no, they think this is
Speaker 1: some kind of terrible human rights abuse. They hate this
Speaker 1: idea of securing the border. They absolutely hate it. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure to understand what the emergency for this is.
Speaker 1: It seems like it ramped up interest over the last
Speaker 1: several days and since the weekend. In fact, the House
Speaker 1: is not here, the Senate is not here. Um, why
Speaker 1: is this such an urgent priority right now for the
Speaker 1: president to sign? We are seeing more and more advertising
Speaker 1: and very unfortunately by the traffickers and smugglers to ourselves,
Speaker 1: specific to how to get around our system and enter
Speaker 1: our country and stay. We have documented cases of borrowing children,
Speaker 1: of carrying out the border as a family unit in
Speaker 1: a fraudulent way. So, oh, you mean people abuse our
Speaker 1: immigration laws and lie and commit fraud so they can
Speaker 1: exploit the loopholes. What a shock. I've been telling you
Speaker 1: how many times some I've been saying to you. You know,
Speaker 1: we got a lot of unaccompanied seventeen year olds at
Speaker 1: the border who are actually twenty five. A lot of
Speaker 1: people who are like, yeah, that's my kid, Take me
Speaker 1: in and then let me let me go inside the US.
Speaker 1: And there's there's never going to be accountability for this.
Speaker 1: Our border security system is a joke. If foreigners can
Speaker 1: show up, lie and no, there's a ninety chance they're
Speaker 1: gonna get to stay. Another thing, by the way, do
Speaker 1: you really think that the border, the border patrol is
Speaker 1: able to determine on the spot without any papers or identification.
Speaker 1: Of course they don't have that right there on documented
Speaker 1: tell the difference in whether someone's coming from Honduras or
Speaker 1: Else Salvador or you know, Mexico, Bolivia, who knows and
Speaker 1: even who shows up who it seems like they can
Speaker 1: pass for coming from Latin America. Heck, I mean they're
Speaker 1: probably guys are showing up who weren't even from Latin America,
Speaker 1: were saying, yeah, I'm from El Salvador, Take me in.
Speaker 1: You know, you don't even speak Spanish. Details I'm fleeing violence.
Speaker 1: You say, buck, No, there's a court system, and they
Speaker 1: they don't even show up for court. We don't enforce
Speaker 1: the laws. We don't tell people that that's what's going on,
Speaker 1: or the media does tell people that's what's going on.
Speaker 1: But it's the truth. Once you're here, you get to stay.
Speaker 1: I mean, heck, do you even had Democrats? Until Democrats recently,
Speaker 1: I have been willing to stand up for keeping everyone
Speaker 1: in this country is here illegally up to an including criminals,
Speaker 1: as long as they weren't really dangerous, violent criminals. And
Speaker 1: even then you get the sense there's some Democrats who
Speaker 1: are like, no, there there are problem. Now. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: not it's not a U. S. Citizen and it's not
Speaker 1: somebody who's league allowed to be here. And it's a
Speaker 1: gang member who's got blood on his hands. Let's not
Speaker 1: send let's not be mean, deport him, send him back
Speaker 1: to his home country. What kind of kind of savages
Speaker 1: are we if we do such a thing, right, you
Speaker 1: get the sense that, I mean, the Democrats have completely
Speaker 1: lost it on this one. But this is what I
Speaker 1: keep saying, If they could only be normal and pose
Speaker 1: as a party that cared about a party that really
Speaker 1: just cared about health care and all, let's give more
Speaker 1: money to the teachers unions or for quote education, and
Speaker 1: we we want to help the work in man and
Speaker 1: we were all that stuff. They might have it, they
Speaker 1: might have a real shot in the mid terms, but
Speaker 1: the problem is they're actually a far left party. Now
Speaker 1: there is no more there's no more constituency or or
Speaker 1: there's no more representation of a constituency that would have
Speaker 1: been in line with you know, the Democrats of thirty
Speaker 1: fourty years ago. That's why people keep talking about what
Speaker 1: Reagan was facing. There were there were pretty normal, reasonable
Speaker 1: Democrats in the Congress that that Reagan could work with. Right,
Speaker 1: there are actually people who could be counted on to
Speaker 1: see things with a rational with a rational ie from
Speaker 1: the other party. You don't have a lot of that, now,
Speaker 1: do you. No, you do not. I mean, look at
Speaker 1: who runs Look at who runs things for the Democrats.
Speaker 1: It's the far left. And on immigration, the far left
Speaker 1: means that they are a party of amnesty, the party
Speaker 1: of lawlessness, and the party of you better pay your
Speaker 1: taxes to the letter so that we can just increase
Speaker 1: access for illegal and access is just a nice way
Speaker 1: of saying welfare, uh, to illegal aliens in this country,
Speaker 1: for health care, for for school, for everything else and
Speaker 1: the stuff that people say. You know, I've actually had
Speaker 1: some pretty uncomfortable exchanges with folks from the libertarian side
Speaker 1: on this too, some of these libertarian think tanks that
Speaker 1: will not remain that will remain unnamed. Where though, so
Speaker 1: you know, no, everything that every every immigrant just could
Speaker 1: just contribute to the economy, well yeah, I'm sure, but
Speaker 1: what do they take from the economy? What's the cost?
Speaker 1: And also what is the cost to a rule of law?
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna have to write a very painful
Speaker 1: check to the I R S this week. I'm actually
Speaker 1: gonna do it probably tomorrow. I don't get to say,
Speaker 1: you know, I just I'm gonna do really good things
Speaker 1: on the money. I'm gonna give a lot more of
Speaker 1: it to charity. If I just don't have to pay
Speaker 1: my taxes, and it also doesn't matter, It doesn't matter
Speaker 1: any of you. Right, if I didn't pay my tax
Speaker 1: doesn't matter any of you. It is irrational to think
Speaker 1: that one person's taxes matter. Oh but it's the law.
Speaker 1: So I'm a citizen. I respect the law and I
Speaker 1: obey it even on our own agree with it. Why
Speaker 1: does something not seem right? Then with our immigration enforcement,
Speaker 1: he's holding the line for America, buck Sexton his back.
Speaker 1: We stepped up the targeting of dangerous criminal gangs such
Speaker 1: as MS thirteen. We removed thousands more criminal aliens than
Speaker 1: the year prior. We no longer exempt entire classes of
Speaker 1: illegal aliens from the consequences of breaking our immigration laws.
Speaker 1: We began the first new border while system construction in
Speaker 1: close to a decade. We modified our asylum system processing
Speaker 1: to more quickly adjudicate claims. And we ended so called
Speaker 1: temporary immigration programs that were either constitutionally dubious or were
Speaker 1: administered in a manner that was inconsistent with the purpose
Speaker 1: of the law or contrary to the intent of Congress.
Speaker 1: Despite these actions, we've recently seen the numbers of illegal
Speaker 1: border crossings rise from forty year low's last April to
Speaker 1: pre back to previous levels. Our current border security and
Speaker 1: immigration laws failed the American people. Really good rundown there
Speaker 1: from DHS Secretary Nielsen about what they're doing and what
Speaker 1: they're facing right now. My friends, this has been going
Speaker 1: on for decades. As you mentioned three in that same speech,
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand legal alien crossers each year, three hundred
Speaker 1: thousand a year. There's a lot of people coming into
Speaker 1: a country who are completely unvetted who you know, We
Speaker 1: don't We don't know what they're gonna do when they
Speaker 1: get here. We don't know if we can count on
Speaker 1: them to contribute to the economy or if there'll be
Speaker 1: a net drain on the economy. We don't know if
Speaker 1: they're going to act in ways that are in compliance
Speaker 1: with the rest of our laws. And most importantly, we're
Speaker 1: bringing them into our polity, into our political tribe, if
Speaker 1: you will, this thing called America without being invited. Now
Speaker 1: there are responsibility. Now, this is an imposition on all
Speaker 1: the American people. As you're you know, getting ready, if
Speaker 1: you're having if you haven't already done it, you pay
Speaker 1: your taxes this week. Just remember that this is theft
Speaker 1: that is going on. It is theft the Democrats, just
Speaker 1: like how China steals their intellectual property. You can come
Speaker 1: up with a lot of different ways. Oh, no, they're
Speaker 1: just it's a program and we're information sharing. No, they're stealing.
Speaker 1: Chinese government is stealing. And if you start to break
Speaker 1: this down into information as dollars and dollars as time.
Speaker 1: People that are doing a lot of R and D
Speaker 1: for high tech US companies and that see that gets
Speaker 1: siphoned off to China through illicit means. It's like their
Speaker 1: time is being stolen from them, right, their money is
Speaker 1: being stolen because now you're gonna have Chinese companies that
Speaker 1: are able to use those same those that same information,
Speaker 1: those proprietary secrets for their own benefits. So when you
Speaker 1: pay your taxes, now understand the Democrats are complicit. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't even say complicit. Democrats are masterminding a vast scheme
Speaker 1: two under my eye, the rule of law, but also
Speaker 1: to redistribute your wealth to people that aren't even allowed
Speaker 1: to be in the country. People who say illegal aliens
Speaker 1: don't get federal ben are lying to you. There are
Speaker 1: all kinds of ways they get benefits. The biggest benefit
Speaker 1: I would note is to be in America and to
Speaker 1: work here and to enjoy our rule of law, our systems,
Speaker 1: our day to day life. That's the biggest benefit of
Speaker 1: being here. I mean, yeah, there's also a whole lot
Speaker 1: of federal welfare programs. But what people want more than
Speaker 1: anything else is they would like to be in this country.
Speaker 1: And so if they just take that there is a
Speaker 1: value there, there was value in it. Um, how just
Speaker 1: one more thing here, I don't I don't buy that
Speaker 1: the caravan is done, this caravan of a thousands Central
Speaker 1: Americans marching through Mexico on their way to the knowing
Speaker 1: that they're just going to turn themselves in an undercurrent
Speaker 1: law because the Democrats. Remember if if the Republican Congress,
Speaker 1: you know, as I say this, why the heck isn't
Speaker 1: the Republican Congress trying to do this at least force
Speaker 1: the Democrats hand on it, make them filibuster. I I thought, you,
Speaker 1: we can't trust Republicans on this. I think Trump is
Speaker 1: serious about it, but you can't trust Paul Ryan on immigration.
Speaker 1: Paul Ryan is terrible on immigration, terrible. He's right along,
Speaker 1: right along with the you know, let's do get let's
Speaker 1: do lots of guessworker programs, and let's do a mass amnesty.
Speaker 1: And he'd give Nancy Pelosi pretty much everything she wants
Speaker 1: for her you know, the the Pelosi preferred immigration program.
Speaker 1: Because right now is the time for the Republican Congress
Speaker 1: to pass measures to address exactly what DHS Secretary Nielsen
Speaker 1: was talking about, to restore sovereignty and rule of law
Speaker 1: when it comes to our immigration system and our border.
Speaker 1: Make the Democrats filibuster, make them stand up and state
Speaker 1: their case that they don't really believe that we are
Speaker 1: allowed to have borders. We can, we can have administration
Speaker 1: at the borders. Oh yeah, we'll know who's coming in,
Speaker 1: but we can't really turn anyone away, and we certainly
Speaker 1: can't expel anyone once they've gotten into this country. That's
Speaker 1: but but I don't believe that this caravan is done. Um.
Speaker 1: I have a feeling that Okay, right now Trump is
Speaker 1: mentioning or as Trump has decided to activate National Guard,
Speaker 1: that's gonna be under the control of the governors in
Speaker 1: various states. And I know, before people start calling in, yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bush administration did this too. I'm not saying it's unprecedented,
Speaker 1: but it shouldn't be surprised. The media's are, oh my god,
Speaker 1: you're militarized border are freaking out about it. What's the
Speaker 1: alternative to continue as we are right now? To continue
Speaker 1: as is? That's really no alternative in the long run,
Speaker 1: it just leads to disaster. Tim and Rhode Island. You've
Speaker 1: got thoughts on this, we want to hear him. Yes, sir,
Speaker 1: you're on radio. Hey, how's it going. It's good? What's up? Hey?
Speaker 1: Thanks for having thanks for having me on. So let's
Speaker 1: not get this twisted. The Democrats want these people in
Speaker 1: this country because they want votes. Absolutely, I say that
Speaker 1: all the time. I just I can't, for the life
Speaker 1: of me figure it out why people that our public
Speaker 1: figures aren't calling them out for this. It's it's obvious,
Speaker 1: it's clear as day. Why are they not doing anything
Speaker 1: about it? Why are they not calling them out? I
Speaker 1: just are you. Politics is just run by money. It's
Speaker 1: all about money. So why aren't there enough people like
Speaker 1: us that think like us getting together and trying to
Speaker 1: get rid of this political system? Okay, well a couple
Speaker 1: of things your Tim. One is that the position of
Speaker 1: greatest virtue signaling on immigration is the you know, give
Speaker 1: me you're tired, your poor, your meek, you're hungry, or whatever.
Speaker 1: I mean. The position that celebrities, Democrat politicians, persons of
Speaker 1: note with money, influence and followings and platforms, the position
Speaker 1: they look to take is Oh no, we want you know,
Speaker 1: the more the merrier, and legal, illegal doesn't doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: We just want the more the merrier. Because immigrants, we
Speaker 1: we have been brainwashed in this country to think that
Speaker 1: immigrants are actually better than Americans. That we are we
Speaker 1: are at the same time a country of immigrants, but
Speaker 1: immigrants are also better than us. So we're all immigrants,
Speaker 1: but immigrants are better than us. And it's it's convoluted,
Speaker 1: it's self contradictory, it makes no sense. But this is
Speaker 1: what they've been feeding us over time. And I have
Speaker 1: to laugh. I just talked to somebody to said, you know,
Speaker 1: occasionally I even I rail against using the term undocumented
Speaker 1: because it's so dishonest, But I occasionally I'll even go, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, what are we gonna do with all these undocumented?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it just happens. It's the effect of
Speaker 1: the propaganda, it's the effect of the messaging and on
Speaker 1: on immigration. We've just had a wake up call as
Speaker 1: a country that we have been lied to, not just
Speaker 1: by one administration, not just by one news network. We
Speaker 1: have been lied to as a people. All Americans, whether
Speaker 1: they've realized it or not. On the left, on the
Speaker 1: right about what's really going on here with the policies
Speaker 1: of the government are and what the long term impact
Speaker 1: will be for all of us. But Tim, the really,
Speaker 1: you know, the answer to why don't more people stand up?
Speaker 1: Because you don't want to be called racist, because you
Speaker 1: don't be called mean, and all these different phrases are
Speaker 1: deployed so that it seems like you're just being unfair.
Speaker 1: You know, most illegal immigrants in this country are non white,
Speaker 1: so there's a racial issue, a racial component that gets
Speaker 1: brought into it. That's why, Well, I think Buck that
Speaker 1: more people need to stand up for each other that
Speaker 1: believe like we do. You see it all over the place,
Speaker 1: just with Laura Ingram So this uh, this hot kid
Speaker 1: says that everyone should boycott her. Why aren't people that
Speaker 1: think like her trying to defend her? I think, to
Speaker 1: be honest with you him, I think people did. I
Speaker 1: think there are a lot of people that came to
Speaker 1: Laura's defense, and and we're saying, you know, I stand
Speaker 1: with Laura, and and Fox did the right thing, and
Speaker 1: it's an important precedent they set because otherwise it's all over.
Speaker 1: I mean, this whole business just just is going to disintegrate.
Speaker 1: So you know, I think that there's people are waking
Speaker 1: up to this, Tim, thank you for calling in from
Speaker 1: Rhode Island. People are waking up this a bit more
Speaker 1: now and they are taking action and they are understanding
Speaker 1: what's at stake here. So you know, I find the
Speaker 1: immigration it should be very very important. Will continue to
Speaker 1: watch it closely here in the Freedom hunt. And uh,
Speaker 1: I also want to talk to you about trade China. Uh.
Speaker 1: More stuff on Facebook. Oh my, We've got more stuff
Speaker 1: to talking about with Facebook and Cambridge Analytic. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: people are very very spun up about that one. We've
Speaker 1: got a lot a lot coming up here, folks. If
Speaker 1: you want to chat with me eight four or four buck,
Speaker 1: We've got some folks on the lines. We'll try to
Speaker 1: get some calls as long as I can remember to
Speaker 1: do so I do get caught in buck rants. Buccalogs,
Speaker 1: Oh we can, you know, we can make that thing bucalogue.
Speaker 1: He'd come down from the mountain for a buccalog quick break.
Speaker 1: We'll be right back. Well, the freak out over Facebook continues.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of confused. I was talking to the guys
Speaker 1: in the break who doesn't understand that Facebook is not
Speaker 1: your buddy. It's not it's not your friend. Facebook is
Speaker 1: a massive corporation that makes a lot of money. Facebook
Speaker 1: is a very capital efficient business. It's one of the
Speaker 1: most powerful corporations financially speaking otherwise on the planet. Right now,
Speaker 1: people are like, oh, but the community standards and the
Speaker 1: terms of service and we're protected. Nope, you're or not. Um.
Speaker 1: So Zuckerberg was on a phone call the CEO, who
Speaker 1: is I think a couple of a year or two
Speaker 1: younger than me. He's a billionaire whatever, I'm worth like
Speaker 1: hundreds of dollars. So Zuckerberg was on this conference call
Speaker 1: and he said, quote, we've seen some scraping. I would
Speaker 1: assume that if you had that setting turned on, that
Speaker 1: someone at some point has access to your public information
Speaker 1: in some way. Just kind of kind of break down
Speaker 1: what he's saying here. I mean, I don't even really
Speaker 1: need do you know what? You know what it is?
Speaker 1: Because he said it public information, stuff that you are
Speaker 1: sharing with the general public that anyone has a right
Speaker 1: to see, can be grabbed by online entities in order
Speaker 1: to market stuff to you. Why does this get everyone all,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, what's going on here? People have this
Speaker 1: notion that Facebook owes them something. No, no, no, oh,
Speaker 1: we have we have the Zuckerberg call. We know people
Speaker 1: play it. Over the period of time that this feature
Speaker 1: has been has been around, people have been able to um,
Speaker 1: have been able to scrape public information, right, I mean
Speaker 1: the the information that you can if you have someone's
Speaker 1: phone number, you can put that in and then you
Speaker 1: can get you know, a link to their profile which
Speaker 1: pulls up public information. So I certainly think that that, um,
Speaker 1: it is reasonable to expect that if you had that
Speaker 1: setting turned on, that at some point in the last
Speaker 1: several years, UM, someone has probably accessed, um, your public
Speaker 1: information in this way. This is a big scandal, big story.
Speaker 1: This should be like me saying, oh my gosh, things
Speaker 1: that I say over the radio people across the country
Speaker 1: can hear. Yes, that is correct. Stuff that you put
Speaker 1: on your Facebook profile that is set to public is public,
Speaker 1: and you should always assume that stuff you have in
Speaker 1: your Facebook profile that's not public might as well be.
Speaker 1: Privacy is a very different concept that we have now. Uh,
Speaker 1: Privacy is changing very rapidly, and we need to understand
Speaker 1: that there are trade off and I think we do
Speaker 1: what you do I do. This is largely coming from
Speaker 1: people who either are are deluded about what these social
Speaker 1: media companies are really up to, right, they want to
Speaker 1: believe that there's some that that they're all about. Social
Speaker 1: media is about social good, you know, doing good things
Speaker 1: for people, just connecting the world and all that stuff. Now,
Speaker 1: social media is a tool, just like any number of
Speaker 1: other things. Can be used for good, can we use
Speaker 1: for bad things? But this got all this attention because
Speaker 1: of Cambridge Analytica and Hillary and so they've kept running
Speaker 1: with this story. And I sit around here and I'm like,
Speaker 1: what is the what is the surprise? Exactly? I don't
Speaker 1: even understand dand at this point how anyone could believe
Speaker 1: anything other than yeah, it's Facebook and these other companies.
Speaker 1: You know, they they have access to your stuff. They know,
Speaker 1: you know, if you put male or female where you live.
Speaker 1: And they have said now we're being told that they
Speaker 1: might be scanning your private messages. Okay, so they may
Speaker 1: scan your private messages. So what they say they're doing
Speaker 1: it to avoid because of terms of service violations or something.
Speaker 1: But I don't even know what what they're really looking for,
Speaker 1: because I mean, I'm assuming that some people on their
Speaker 1: Facebook messages. You know, things got a little spicy probably
Speaker 1: sometimes you know, hey, are you an angel? Because you
Speaker 1: look like you just fell from heaven? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I will say from some friends of mine
Speaker 1: who have you know, who have who have deep experience,
Speaker 1: uh considerable experience on the on the dating apps, that
Speaker 1: they hear stories from some of their lady friends that
Speaker 1: occasionally the photos that are sent are, um are what's
Speaker 1: the world? What's the way to say this? Because I
Speaker 1: know there's young young ones listening. Um so I was there, there,
Speaker 1: there there and what did you say? Oh no, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Are very anatomically specific? Different? Yeah, we're
Speaker 1: looking we're talking about different things here. That's a common thing.
Speaker 1: Is that a violation the terms of service? I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe it's in the confines of a loving, loving adult relationship,
Speaker 1: you know what husbands and wives want to send each
Speaker 1: other on Facebook as their own business. So I don't
Speaker 1: know why they're looking at that data for possible terms
Speaker 1: of service violation. But the other thing is the Internet
Speaker 1: can only know what you put on the Internet. So
Speaker 1: you know, the Internet may know that you uh, you know,
Speaker 1: the Internet may know that that that me for example,
Speaker 1: they may know that I I like Republican stuff and
Speaker 1: dogs and you know, going to the beach or something,
Speaker 1: you know, but they don't necessarily know, you know, afraid
Speaker 1: of clowns and doesn't always think that, you know, if
Speaker 1: you're particularly relax while you're taking a shower, that you
Speaker 1: need to step out of the shower to attend to
Speaker 1: all your business, you know, whatever it may be. You know,
Speaker 1: that's only stuff that that the internet knows. If you
Speaker 1: put it out there on the internet, it doesn't know it.
Speaker 1: Because you know, everyone just needs to just take a
Speaker 1: deep breath on this one. I just don't see where
Speaker 1: the the freak out continues to be here. You have
Speaker 1: Facebook has all this information, they are gathering all this stuff.
Speaker 1: I try to tell people this all the time. They
Speaker 1: ask me, oh, you know, well what about that? They think?
Speaker 1: And I understand it too, because you know, I come
Speaker 1: from a CIA background, and so I was like, no,
Speaker 1: it's not really what I did. But they'll say it, Oh,
Speaker 1: can people you know, can people uh hack into your
Speaker 1: computer and see you v a camera? And I say,
Speaker 1: you know, yeah they can, and don't I don't know
Speaker 1: how to stop that. Listen, do you do the do
Speaker 1: you guys do the tape on the at home the
Speaker 1: tape on the the camera. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I know people who do that. I think it's a
Speaker 1: little I think that's a little bit paranoid. What are
Speaker 1: they gonna see. You're gonna see me sitting there my
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not like doing interpretive dances in front
Speaker 1: of my computer when I go home, Or maybe i am,
Speaker 1: but at least if I'm going to do that, I
Speaker 1: would cover the you know, the cover of the camera.
Speaker 1: But I don't know what people are thinking about this stuff.
Speaker 1: The Facebook story, It's just not that interesting to me
Speaker 1: right now, but everyone else has really worked up about it.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sex and show everyone. Uh,
Speaker 1: yesterday we went on air right in the aftermath of
Speaker 1: that shooting at YouTube's headquarters in California, and I gotta
Speaker 1: say I was here in the hut with the guys,
Speaker 1: with my team, and we were looking at this and thinking,
Speaker 1: oh gosh, this is you know, you see parts of
Speaker 1: lots of many shots fired, and law enforcement confirmed there
Speaker 1: was an active shooter situation, and it was a a
Speaker 1: relief that no one was killed other than the shooter,
Speaker 1: which seems very unlikely. I mean, if somebody had gone
Speaker 1: in there trying to cause maximum casualties had a firearm
Speaker 1: and was able to get off a lot of rounds.
Speaker 1: You would think that you could be in a there
Speaker 1: could be much higher casualt account. But the initial reporting
Speaker 1: on it was that there was a woman and that's
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, a white woman with a head scarf who
Speaker 1: was shooting her boyfriend. I remember that. And sometime last
Speaker 1: night the story went from this is remember this is
Speaker 1: about the shooting it at YouTube. White woman shoots boyfriend
Speaker 1: at YouTube headquarters to Iranian Muslim vegan video blogger Active
Speaker 1: engaged in rage shooting of YouTube because it demonetized her videos.
Speaker 1: That is that is quite a quite a change in
Speaker 1: the storyline or an addition to the storyline. It turns
Speaker 1: out that the the YouTube shooter spoke with police just
Speaker 1: hours before the attack and they saw she was sleeping
Speaker 1: in a car in Mounteview, California, and they thought that
Speaker 1: she might be a missing person, so they just talked
Speaker 1: to her and they had no reason to detain her
Speaker 1: or to suspect anything, so they let her go. Some
Speaker 1: people saying that's a they misred flags. There's nothing they did.
Speaker 1: I don't know what they were supposed to see in
Speaker 1: that this woman uh Ne seem Agdam has lots of videos.
Speaker 1: I saw clips and they are making the rounds last night.
Speaker 1: It looks at very clearly a a a bizarre, a
Speaker 1: czarre person. She was. She she killed herself here and
Speaker 1: I think we can assume had some very serious mental illness.
Speaker 1: She would make these videos that were parody music videos.
Speaker 1: She was a a well, it was well established that
Speaker 1: she was an animal rights activist, was always railing against
Speaker 1: animal cruelty, was a vegan, and was Iranian. And that's
Speaker 1: that's kind of what we know. She was angry at
Speaker 1: at YouTube, angry because I kept changing the terms of
Speaker 1: service on her, or they kept demonetizing her videos, and
Speaker 1: she said that they were restricting and this is from
Speaker 1: the other videos she posted, right, Or they're restricting people's
Speaker 1: ability to watch her videos, putting age restrictions on them.
Speaker 1: And so she thought that she was a victim of
Speaker 1: some kind of YouTube censorship. She may have been I
Speaker 1: don't know, paranoid, schizophrenic or something that I can't do
Speaker 1: a medical diagnosis from a far her once amount of
Speaker 1: medical doctor. And two we don't have enough information just yet,
Speaker 1: but certainly seems like there was something. Well we know
Speaker 1: there's something very wrong where there just turned into a
Speaker 1: a the YouTube shooter. But it seems like there was
Speaker 1: something clinically quite wrong with her. Just one thing I
Speaker 1: would note. You know, yesterday I asked you, I said,
Speaker 1: how is it? This is one of the questions that
Speaker 1: why if she's if you're just going to shoot her,
Speaker 1: if you're just going to shoot a boyfriend, if it's
Speaker 1: a lover's quarrel that goes that turns into violence, you
Speaker 1: probably not going to shoot three other people, right, So
Speaker 1: this was an attempt at mass shooting, and I thought
Speaker 1: it was strange that initially we were getting these law
Speaker 1: enforced reports about how or the initial reports, I should
Speaker 1: say from contact with law enforcement was that it was, uh,
Speaker 1: she was targeting her boyfriend. There was no boy She
Speaker 1: just went in and started shooting some people, which in
Speaker 1: the context of the situation, if you play it on
Speaker 1: your head, well yeah, it was a mass shooting. She
Speaker 1: was trying to get revenge on YouTube for the perceived
Speaker 1: slights of demonetizing her videos. Um had nothing new with
Speaker 1: her boyfriend, nothing, There was no This wasn't a crime
Speaker 1: of passion, lover squirrel, any of that, Which makes sense
Speaker 1: now when you think about Okay. You know, if if
Speaker 1: you're really angry your boyfriend or your girlfriend, and you'd
Speaker 1: make the horrible decision you're gonna be violent about it,
Speaker 1: you would think you wouldn't shoot a few people that
Speaker 1: just happened to be standing nearby. So just in our
Speaker 1: in our analysis of this afters I say we raised
Speaker 1: that question. I think it was an important one to raise.
Speaker 1: That just didn't make sense. This didn't make sense, and
Speaker 1: now we know she was trying to kill as many
Speaker 1: people as possible. It is um something of a miracle,
Speaker 1: I think, given that she got into the facility, had
Speaker 1: a loaded weapon. Actually never it was a handgun, right,
Speaker 1: I never saw I mean I'm assuming it's a handgun,
Speaker 1: uh so, and managed to get off a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of rounds, didn't kill anybody, and shot herself. This this
Speaker 1: is one of these times where you can say this
Speaker 1: could have been a lot worse. It could have been
Speaker 1: a lot worse. Um, But there is also an this
Speaker 1: is just from the media coverage angle this and that
Speaker 1: way we can move past this. I don't think there's
Speaker 1: a lot to say on this. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: follow up and close a loop from yesterday. The interest.
Speaker 1: The interest level from the media kept changing depending on
Speaker 1: what they thought. You know what was it? Was it
Speaker 1: an assault rifle? Though it was a pistol. Okay, well
Speaker 1: that's not as there are a whole bunch of different
Speaker 1: outlets that that doesn't fit into the narrative that they
Speaker 1: could run with, right, I say, it's a it was
Speaker 1: a white woman. I saw that being reported a lot,
Speaker 1: as though I don't know is that that that's an
Speaker 1: important detail for some media outlets. But then we find out, well,
Speaker 1: she's Iranian, and then you get into well is that
Speaker 1: now is that now considered? Do we not distinguished? Because
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that there will be lots of folks
Speaker 1: of Middle Eastern descent which is Irani. Now remember it's
Speaker 1: not Arab, Persian or you know, Farsi speaking Iran. I
Speaker 1: saw some of that on Twitter. People say, well, she's
Speaker 1: actually Arab, No, no, not that's not true. Um she's Persian,
Speaker 1: or you can says she's Iranian of Iranian descent. But
Speaker 1: you just see the way that there was It was
Speaker 1: like all in coverage for a little bit from something,
Speaker 1: and then it kind of went away, and then a
Speaker 1: lot of coverage and then it kind of went away,
Speaker 1: and at the end of the day, it's it was
Speaker 1: it's tough for the left to make much of a
Speaker 1: of a narrative storyline that pushes an agenda out of
Speaker 1: vegan amateur bodybuilder, YouTube video maker of Iranian extraction who
Speaker 1: is angry for her movie, her movies being demonetized on
Speaker 1: YouTube that that doesn't really and they don't really know
Speaker 1: what to how to package that one to push an agendas.
Speaker 1: I'll trying to say, that's kind of it's kind of
Speaker 1: wacko stuff. And so that's what I got for you
Speaker 1: on the youth, wacko stuff. That's really the the bottom
Speaker 1: line up front here. And with that, I want to
Speaker 1: come back to you and talk a bit more about
Speaker 1: I'll talk a bit about, uh, the spat between Well,
Speaker 1: you got a couple of spats, multiple spats. You've got
Speaker 1: the US and China, which is putting some people on edge.
Speaker 1: We'll get into that over tariffs and what we're gonna
Speaker 1: do on trade and what a responses should be. And
Speaker 1: and then also what was the other spat. I'm I'm
Speaker 1: totally blanking what was it? Yeah, I can't remember, no,
Speaker 1: what Amazon? Thank you? I completely space there for a second.
Speaker 1: See you got your like my you guys are like
Speaker 1: my Alexa, you know, my my freedom HUT team. You're like,
Speaker 1: you know, fuck, you should not forget things. That's right,
Speaker 1: I should not eight four four to five. You want
Speaker 1: to chat, let's do it and uh, we'll be back
Speaker 1: in a few We're going through the review period. We're
Speaker 1: very lucky that we have the best negotiator at the table,
Speaker 1: in the pre resident, and we're gonna go through that process.
Speaker 1: It will be a couple of months before tariffs on
Speaker 1: either side would go into effect and be implemented, and
Speaker 1: we're hopeful that China will do the right thing. Look,
Speaker 1: China created this problem, not President Trump. But we finally
Speaker 1: actually have a president who's willing to stand up and
Speaker 1: say enough is enough. We're gonna stop the unfair trade practices.
Speaker 1: We're asking China to stop unfair trade practices, and we're
Speaker 1: gonna work through that process over the next couple of months.
Speaker 1: Lame China, not President Trump, because they've been going on
Speaker 1: for many years. Trump is really the first president to
Speaker 1: fight back and to put a shot across the bow.
Speaker 1: It's still in intellectual property rights, technology transfers high barriers
Speaker 1: investment limitations, high tariffs. This stuff is really um not
Speaker 1: just unfair, it's unlawful. It's outside the boundaries of the
Speaker 1: w t O. Every country in the world knows this,
Speaker 1: Every analyst knows this is the case. Somebody's got to
Speaker 1: deal with that. President Trump is going to deal with it.
Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of tariffs. I'm a free trader
Speaker 1: by large, but I think the President is completely right
Speaker 1: to take these actions. I gotta say, the thinking on
Speaker 1: this is changing, folks, isn't it. I'm not saying everybody,
Speaker 1: I'm not saying entirely, but remember when just a few weeks,
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, tariffs terrible. Okay, Well, he's not putting
Speaker 1: tariffs up just because he thinks that it's going to
Speaker 1: create some flourishing domestic industrial capacity that we didn't have before,
Speaker 1: although that might happen in some industries a little bit
Speaker 1: in some ways. But this is a means of dealing
Speaker 1: with Chinese malfeasance in the area of trade, and I
Speaker 1: just it's such a you know, you the same way
Speaker 1: on immigration. I try to ask very basic questions and
Speaker 1: then get into the details. You start with the very
Speaker 1: basic questions of dealing with China, and why we would
Speaker 1: put tariffs in place like okay, so is the answer
Speaker 1: that China gets to do whatever it wants. China can
Speaker 1: do anything that it thinks is in its economic interest
Speaker 1: visa e. The United States. If China wants to steal
Speaker 1: our stuff, go for it. China wants to steal a
Speaker 1: intelectual property, have at it. They want to they want
Speaker 1: to protect certain industries that they're trying to give a
Speaker 1: bigger market share too by putting in their own tariffs. Fine,
Speaker 1: and what do we do nothing? We just go, oh, gosh,
Speaker 1: you're not China. Yeah that really Yeah, there taking taking
Speaker 1: a rough flame with this on this stuff. You know,
Speaker 1: it's just shame Trump is doing something. He's taking action
Speaker 1: the administration to saying that they are going to put
Speaker 1: in place more te specifically targeting the theft of an
Speaker 1: electoral property, which is, as I have been telling you,
Speaker 1: is among the biggest problems we face going forward, not
Speaker 1: just economically speaking, but also it's it's good we're as
Speaker 1: it's a problem militarily. That see's a problem militarily. There's
Speaker 1: been all kinds of Remember there's the theft that there
Speaker 1: there are different tiers of of espionage and intellectual property
Speaker 1: theft that go on. There's what you hear about and
Speaker 1: the government knows about. Right, those are the things that
Speaker 1: make their way into the headlines. You know, those Chinese
Speaker 1: company it is UH suspected of having stolen sensitive US
Speaker 1: not or you know, individual and custody for passing secrets
Speaker 1: to China. You'll have that. There's what happens that the
Speaker 1: public doesn't know about, but the government knows about. And
Speaker 1: that's gonna be a lot of that in the cyber realm.
Speaker 1: I don't really want to tell people what's going on there.
Speaker 1: You don't, but we don't really get to know what
Speaker 1: the government knows, especially in the realm of cyber and
Speaker 1: and that's a lot. And then you add to that
Speaker 1: another whole level of what we don't know and our
Speaker 1: government doesn't know. And once you put all those layers
Speaker 1: to other, there's a lot of stuff that has been
Speaker 1: taken from this country and used for the advantage of
Speaker 1: the Chinese state and the Chinese economy and the Chinese military.
Speaker 1: And what have we done? You know, you'll notice how
Speaker 1: the same press courts that's always saying all he's not
Speaker 1: doing enough about Russia. Why doesn't he do more about Russia,
Speaker 1: more sanctions, more And I'm just saying there's reports out
Speaker 1: as we went on air that there may be sanctions
Speaker 1: for um Russian oligarchs coming up to the administration might
Speaker 1: do even more against Russia that it's already done, which
Speaker 1: is much more than Obama did. But they're so willing
Speaker 1: to antagonize the Russian state for doing things that, while
Speaker 1: we don't like, don't really affect us. It doesn't really
Speaker 1: matter all that much to you and me and what
Speaker 1: happens in our lives and our kids lives, your kids lives,
Speaker 1: but you know our American kids lives. What China is
Speaker 1: doing affects you. You may work for, In fact, you
Speaker 1: very well uh do work for a company that at
Speaker 1: least competes with Chinese companies. You may you may be
Speaker 1: working for a company that you know or you don't know,
Speaker 1: has been this subject of hacking efforts from China steal
Speaker 1: your data, steal information, steal even more. Who knows that
Speaker 1: really affects you and and any actions taken that address
Speaker 1: that are considered to be reckless and irresponsible And how
Speaker 1: could Trump do this? And it's so terrible. Well, the
Speaker 1: other option is just to let the Chinese do whatever
Speaker 1: they want, continue to flout the fun word. You know,
Speaker 1: you really you say that if you say flout, you
Speaker 1: feel a little fancy. But it's different than being say
Speaker 1: a floutist. You see, you see what I did there,
Speaker 1: But you know you you see how the global opinion
Speaker 1: is all quite settled on China. There's really no such
Speaker 1: thing as global opinion, right, but the international communities leadership
Speaker 1: there you go, that's a term that we can use,
Speaker 1: is settled on China engaged in bad behavior. And what
Speaker 1: do we do in response? Nothing. China is the top
Speaker 1: trading partner for uh tons of countries. I mean, I
Speaker 1: think if you if you actually look at a list
Speaker 1: of countries, China is at least in the top ten
Speaker 1: trading partners for almost every country on Earth. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know where micro Nesia is getting most of
Speaker 1: its stuff these days. But like all the major countries
Speaker 1: out there, you know, sorry San Marino um, but all
Speaker 1: the major companies out there, companies countries, uh, they're doing
Speaker 1: a lot of business with China. So that also affects
Speaker 1: this too. The China there's a little bit of a
Speaker 1: of an implied bullying here for a lot, or not
Speaker 1: even just implied. There's a little bit of bullying that
Speaker 1: goes on from the Chinese government against countries that don't
Speaker 1: have the ability to push back. So if we don't
Speaker 1: do it, who's going to? But like I said, you
Speaker 1: start with the very simple questions, what if if not tariffs?
Speaker 1: What's the response suffering silence? Let the Chinese government do
Speaker 1: what it wants. That seems to be a bad idea.
Speaker 1: It seems to me like we should probably find ways
Speaker 1: to at least go beyond expressing the occasional bit of displeasure. Here.
Speaker 1: We've got some calls in and I haven't taken many today,
Speaker 1: and I'd like to hear from all of you. So
Speaker 1: let's go to Karen in Michigan. What's up, Karen, Hey Box,
Speaker 1: how are you? I'm good? Thank you for your call.
Speaker 1: So I don't have anything like profound to say, like
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys are calling about, you know,
Speaker 1: the strategies in China or anything. But um, I had
Speaker 1: two things. The quick thing is, the issue with the
Speaker 1: immigrants has the making of a really great seventies movies.
Speaker 1: The military goes down there too. The bad guys you
Speaker 1: know all those movies were like that. And the other
Speaker 1: thing I wanted to say quick was the story of
Speaker 1: this woman. The shooter Um reminds me so much of
Speaker 1: that story about the Lady Um and it's done a
Speaker 1: while back. I think she worked for NASA. She was
Speaker 1: like an astronaut and she drove with a diaper on
Speaker 1: like for eight hours to uh with the woman or
Speaker 1: because she had like a lover's quarrel and yeah right,
Speaker 1: and she had she had like duct tape in the
Speaker 1: trunk of the car and weapons. It's just like I said, Okay,
Speaker 1: these are accomplished, intelligent people. What is going on even
Speaker 1: this one. I don't know if this woman was accomplished.
Speaker 1: I but but I hear what you're saying. I think
Speaker 1: that might be given her a little I've been too
Speaker 1: much credit. I think the slope dips after a while.
Speaker 1: But she was educated. And it just strikes me so
Speaker 1: odd that somebody would go to school and work so
Speaker 1: hard for a job and you know, get a career,
Speaker 1: and then drive eight hours and the diaper to kill
Speaker 1: your lover's fat person. It just seems bizarre, and it
Speaker 1: is definitely bizarre. Karen, I ap appreciate you shields. I
Speaker 1: thank you for calling her from a sign. Oh, there's
Speaker 1: no doubt about it. When you just I don't care
Speaker 1: what line of work you're in. If you decide it's
Speaker 1: time to strap on a diaper because you're not gonna
Speaker 1: you don't want to waste time and you don't want
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom, that's dedication. So whatever the
Speaker 1: task at hand, maybe when you're like, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm gonna Yeah, I mean, like, how many of us?
Speaker 1: How many of us have you gonna long long drive?
Speaker 1: You know, maybe maybe you had a bottle of a
Speaker 1: bottle of sanka. Do they still make that, by the way,
Speaker 1: Yeah they do. There's really And then I always yelled
Speaker 1: because I say, it's what do they they call it
Speaker 1: pop in the south or that you know, you got
Speaker 1: all these weird terms the rest of the country. We
Speaker 1: just call it soda here in New York, But I
Speaker 1: think pop, right, But you know, you got an empty bottle.
Speaker 1: You know, what what are you gonna do with that bottle?
Speaker 1: Long car? Drive? You you really want to have to
Speaker 1: pull over into the I'm just saying, people become you know,
Speaker 1: this necessity is the mother of invention, and people become
Speaker 1: very uh what's the word of looking in there's ingineusite
Speaker 1: tea at work in long rides, sometimes involving empty bottles
Speaker 1: and whatever else you got. So let's talk about Amazon.
Speaker 1: Coming right up, he's holding the line for America buck
Speaker 1: sex in his back. The post Office is losing billions
Speaker 1: of dollars and the taxpayers are paying for them money
Speaker 1: because it delivers packages for Amazon at a very below cost.
Speaker 1: And that's not fair to the United States. It's not
Speaker 1: fair to our taxpayers. And Amazon has the money to
Speaker 1: pay the fair rate at the post Office, which would
Speaker 1: be much more than their paying right now. But if
Speaker 1: you look at the cost that we're subsidizing, we're giving
Speaker 1: a subsidy to Amazon, and we're talking about billions of
Speaker 1: dollars a year the real costs. And a report just
Speaker 1: came out they said a dollar forty seven, I believe,
Speaker 1: or about that for every time they deliver a package.
Speaker 1: The United States government, meaning the Post Office, loses a
Speaker 1: dollar forty seven. So Amazon is gonna have to pay
Speaker 1: much more money to the Post Office. There's no doubt
Speaker 1: about that. President Trump going after Amazon big lee. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm a little I'm a little torn here.
Speaker 1: Because Amazon does so much for me, it has made
Speaker 1: me so lazy that now the thought of actually like
Speaker 1: having to go to the corner to buy toilet paper, milk, toothpaste,
Speaker 1: I just expect it all to be waiting for me now,
Speaker 1: and a little box when I get home to my
Speaker 1: h to my home, I just expected to be there.
Speaker 1: And whenever I actually have to go to a store
Speaker 1: now to get something, I find myself thinking, can I
Speaker 1: just get this on Amazon? If the answer is yes,
Speaker 1: I can order it with my phone it is. It
Speaker 1: makes me, uh well, supremely lazy, but also the conveniences
Speaker 1: is incredible. Now. When I moved into an apartment this
Speaker 1: this year, what was it a year ago? Almost a
Speaker 1: year ago? Now, I think I bought of what was
Speaker 1: in the apartment, including furniture and everything on it. Now.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm not much of an interior decorator. I'moun a
Speaker 1: fancy guy, but it all came from Amazon. Amazon amazing,
Speaker 1: you get anything. I love Amazon also because you can
Speaker 1: even type in things that aren't a thing and will
Speaker 1: find it for you. You're like, I need the thing
Speaker 1: that attaches to the bottom of the table where I
Speaker 1: can put the thing that looks at the and you're like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a it's a thing. I'm a Bob and I
Speaker 1: can get it from and it'll be delivered in a day.
Speaker 1: I love getting a Thingamabob's. I've had that experience many tests.
Speaker 1: So Amazon is incredible. Is the reason that Jeff Bezos
Speaker 1: is worth eighty billion dollars. But you know, if Trump,
Speaker 1: if what Trump is saying is true, that they're getting
Speaker 1: a ride on the post Office's coattails, that's something that
Speaker 1: certainly needs to be looked at. And I've seen Pete. Look,
Speaker 1: I don't know enough. The Post Office loses money, as
Speaker 1: we all know, so would it would it surprise any
Speaker 1: of us if the Post Office was doing all this
Speaker 1: stuff for Amazon They're like, well, we'll lose money per package,
Speaker 1: but we'll make it up on volume. Um, it wouldn't
Speaker 1: surprise me at all. That said, you know, that's something
Speaker 1: that Post Office, federal government they should probably handle that, right.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the federal government, on the tax side of
Speaker 1: the equation, truth here is that I I'm sure that
Speaker 1: Amazon has all kinds of cool tax breaks and loopholes,
Speaker 1: probably along the lines of what General Electric, which is
Speaker 1: the company that's in rough shape. General Electric had some
Speaker 1: years ago where it paid think it was zero zero
Speaker 1: and zero tax on its on its revenue. Zero. How
Speaker 1: is that? Oh? A lot, a lot of very complicated
Speaker 1: financial engineering by the accountants. But by the way, I
Speaker 1: would like to get I would like to get a
Speaker 1: team of accounts that could help me somehow have zero
Speaker 1: in pay zero taxes. Right, A company can do it,
Speaker 1: Why can't an individual? I thought corporations are people? Aren't
Speaker 1: people corporations? Uh so, I agree that's a problem. But
Speaker 1: this is also a bigger problem, and that is we've
Speaker 1: got some tax cuts. Great, and they're a good thing.
Speaker 1: They're also very standard for the GOP. There's nothing about
Speaker 1: these tax cuts that's really ah blowing my mind. But
Speaker 1: I would like to see Trump, while he still has
Speaker 1: the time to push issues like this, talk about a
Speaker 1: fair tax or a flat tax. I'll take either. People say, buck,
Speaker 1: do you have a preference? I don't really just give
Speaker 1: me one or the other. As long as the tax
Speaker 1: code and this is probably a pretty good time to
Speaker 1: talking about this, folks, considering that tax days, you know,
Speaker 1: in a week and change. As long as the I R.
Speaker 1: S Code is seventy thousand plus pages. There will be
Speaker 1: all kinds of chicanery. Do you like that good good
Speaker 1: word I use? He uses the good words he does.
Speaker 1: He does. Doesn't know how many presidents are from Ohio,
Speaker 1: but I'll get to that later. Yeah, I know I
Speaker 1: mess that. People were like Buck, come on, man, weak sauce.
Speaker 1: It was very It's Jay either three hours of live
Speaker 1: radio at the time. You gotta gusual you're gonna run
Speaker 1: into some some stuff. You know you're gonna step in it.
Speaker 1: And with that one, my bad, Ohio you got you
Speaker 1: gotta got lots of presidents. I'll talk about that then
Speaker 1: later on. There's so many messages came in on that
Speaker 1: in the roll call. Trust me, we'll get to it. Um.
Speaker 1: So on Amazon. If it's a tax issue, that's where
Speaker 1: the Congress has to step in and actually do something.
Speaker 1: But Congress doesn't want to. I'll let you in a
Speaker 1: secret that you already know. Congress doesn't want to make
Speaker 1: a tax code that's transparent, that's fair, that's clear. Now,
Speaker 1: how are they gonna how are they gonna be powerful?
Speaker 1: How are they going to keep their jobs their prerogatives? Um,
Speaker 1: what are they going to do if they can't create
Speaker 1: carve outs in the tax code for people in the
Speaker 1: answer is, that's why they don't want to do it.
Speaker 1: That's why we're not going to get a fair tax
Speaker 1: of flat tax. And that's a great frustration because if
Speaker 1: you have powerful interests that are able to lobby Congress
Speaker 1: for their own giveaways and tax brace everything else, it's
Speaker 1: going to continue and continue. Is Amazon a problem, We'll see. Look,
Speaker 1: Walmart's getting very big in the digital space now too.
Speaker 1: You know that there's there's competition, right, it's just Amazon's.
Speaker 1: Amazon's also annoying to Trump, I think because it is,
Speaker 1: as he calls it, the Amazon Washington Post. There's a
Speaker 1: reason that Mr Bezos wanted what is I think the
Speaker 1: second favorite paper of liberals in this country. You pay
Speaker 1: two U fifty million dollars for it, which Bezos has
Speaker 1: in his couch cushions. And we can't think for a
Speaker 1: second that that doesn't influence There's no way, right, people say, oh,
Speaker 1: but buck, then no one at Amazon actually gives directives
Speaker 1: the Washington Post that they should cover things. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: people at the Washington Post certainly no Amazon writes the
Speaker 1: checks here. The Washington Post is, for all intents and purposes,
Speaker 1: when it comes to the way they cover things related
Speaker 1: to Amazon and Business a subsidiary of Amazon. Okay, I
Speaker 1: know that freak out if they heard me say that,
Speaker 1: or they'd be like, who is this guy with the
Speaker 1: poofy hair and the big voice and a huge head um.
Speaker 1: But that's that's the reality of it, that's the truth.
Speaker 1: So well, I's about to see. We'll see if Trump
Speaker 1: can continue, and I'm most surprised. But I do love
Speaker 1: it when I can get my thing of a bob
Speaker 1: delivered free of charge in twenty four hours and I
Speaker 1: don't have to get I just stay in sweats all day.
Speaker 1: All my consumer needs basically met via via Amazon these days,
Speaker 1: so that's kind of fun. I like that part of it. Oh,
Speaker 1: we've got to talk about Mueller and the probe. We
Speaker 1: are joined by a legal expert, our friend and the
Speaker 1: Campania with that up next. The biggest development I thought
Speaker 1: in the last couple of days is that it's now
Speaker 1: obvious that Mueller thinks and he's wrong, that he thinks
Speaker 1: collusion is a crime. In his memo, he talks about
Speaker 1: colluding with the Russians or collusion as a crime against
Speaker 1: the federal government. I want to issue a challenge to
Speaker 1: him right now, I challenge Special Counsel Mueller to cite
Speaker 1: the statute or the case, or the source or any
Speaker 1: legal information that would make collusion or colluding with Russia
Speaker 1: a crime. He's not going to be able to find,
Speaker 1: are you? Why do you there? He had Professor Dershowitz,
Speaker 1: the dirsh he was on actually right before me today
Speaker 1: over at Fox News. I was answered, I was hanging
Speaker 1: out with my my main man hammer and uh, we
Speaker 1: had a good time talking about spying stuff in d C.
Speaker 1: But before that, sure enough, we had uh, we had
Speaker 1: Professor dirsch Woods and he was saying, collusion is not
Speaker 1: a crime. But we have our own legal expert here,
Speaker 1: our freedom Hunt legal expert. That's right. Emily Campanio is
Speaker 1: with us now. You can follow her on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Emily Campanio, and she's a lawyer, legal analyst. She knows
Speaker 1: about all these things, and she's with us. Emily, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for calling in, Thanks for having appreciate it. So, uh,
Speaker 1: what do you think about this collusion issue raised or
Speaker 1: that that dirsch Witz is addressing here, we're saying that
Speaker 1: Mueller now it seems to be acting under the premise
Speaker 1: that collusion is a crime, and as Professor Dirshwoods points out,
Speaker 1: this is pretty straightforward. It either exists in criminal statute
Speaker 1: or does it right, He's absolutely correct, and you know
Speaker 1: what it is. You could argue semantics, but obviously in
Speaker 1: the eyes of the law, semantics matters. What is against
Speaker 1: the law is conspiracy, right, or concerted activity towards violating
Speaker 1: a federal statute. That's what you can prove, and that
Speaker 1: is what we can find in the federal in criminal
Speaker 1: law right, federal antitate. Um, So there's no there's no
Speaker 1: collusion against the law. And so I think what what
Speaker 1: Alander's wits is sing rightly so is just get your
Speaker 1: facts straight, get your words straight. And unfortunately, what that
Speaker 1: does is create this currency and this narrative that now
Speaker 1: everyone is talking about. But really it's inaccurate and it
Speaker 1: doesn't do anyone good to think that they know either
Speaker 1: what is the point of the investigation or what he's
Speaker 1: really looking for. When frankly, again jurch Wiz is right,
Speaker 1: there's no such thing as collusion being against the law.
Speaker 1: So again it's conspiracy or concerted activity towards violating a
Speaker 1: federal statute, and that federal statute would not be quote unquote, Emily,
Speaker 1: why is it that you? Why do you think and
Speaker 1: I'm asking you to surmise here because you can't know,
Speaker 1: But why do you think that they don't just say
Speaker 1: that they're investigating conspiracy? Right? Wouldn't that be much more
Speaker 1: clear and much more straightforward, because to me, it suggests
Speaker 1: that collusion could be just whatever people wanted to be.
Speaker 1: It could be essentially a political charge without it actually
Speaker 1: being a criminal charge. Do you do you have any
Speaker 1: sense of why not you say the look at a conspiracy?
Speaker 1: The only argument I could make for that as a
Speaker 1: strategy is goes back to actually the issue with it,
Speaker 1: which is the fact that it's kind of this colloquial
Speaker 1: umbrella term that has no actual legal definition. And so
Speaker 1: perhaps that is purposeful in that it enables the investigation
Speaker 1: to from under that rubric of quote unquote collusion, find
Speaker 1: specific charges or statutes that alleged behavior has um has
Speaker 1: infringed upon ours, has been done toward right, Meaning it
Speaker 1: basically says, look, we are investigating this big broad term
Speaker 1: under which a lot of specific crimes could fall under,
Speaker 1: or specific target could fall under. And that's why it
Speaker 1: creates a broader stroke that we can then paint with.
Speaker 1: So that would be the only argument strategically that I see,
Speaker 1: because definitely it's inaccurate, overbroad, and again not in the
Speaker 1: criminal system. I want to continue with our trend here
Speaker 1: of having an Emily Campanio analyze the dirshes analysis. So
Speaker 1: please play clip two. He has to be a subject,
Speaker 1: not a target before the Justice Department can ask him
Speaker 1: to uh testify. Generally, the Justice Department does not ask
Speaker 1: targets to testify because if you're a target, that means
Speaker 1: you're going to be prosecuted. And uh so telling him
Speaker 1: he's a subject is just another way of saying, we
Speaker 1: want you to testify. We're gonna subpoenea you in front
Speaker 1: of the grand jury if we can't make a deal
Speaker 1: with you. Um it's it's a magic cold word. It's
Speaker 1: just a way of saying, you have no excuse not
Speaker 1: to testify because you're not a target. You're just a subjection.
Speaker 1: So what can you tell us about this a target,
Speaker 1: person of interest, subject, witness, suspect, all these different terms,
Speaker 1: target and subject? What's the difference here that we need
Speaker 1: to know about? Right? First of all, I agree with
Speaker 1: the dirt as you call them, just so funny, and
Speaker 1: I think of it as a spectrum, dear listeners, and
Speaker 1: it's a target is on one end, and again is
Speaker 1: correct where it's it's someone that investigators have substantial evidence
Speaker 1: that ties them to a crime and who is a
Speaker 1: putative defendant, which means they are likely to face charges.
Speaker 1: So that's one end of the spectrum. And then on
Speaker 1: the other end of the spectrum would be you know,
Speaker 1: you just mentioned a witness, right, so that would be
Speaker 1: someone that an investigator wants to talk to, you know,
Speaker 1: likely has information, maybe doesn't UM, but they are not
Speaker 1: specifically investigating that particular person. That's why they would be
Speaker 1: a witnessed. And then in the middle, it's would be
Speaker 1: the subject, and that is someone whose conduct is within
Speaker 1: the scope of that investigation. You know, it's it's basically
Speaker 1: someone UM who's under scrutiny. And it also means that
Speaker 1: someone who is a subject can very easily become a
Speaker 1: target after said interview that you just mentioned, or after
Speaker 1: uncovering you know, more evidence, or they can be put
Speaker 1: up the spectrum back to simple witness. If look, here's
Speaker 1: here's what they told us, and it all checks out
Speaker 1: and they're they're simply a witness. May has given us investigation.
Speaker 1: They're no longer a subject. So to me, ay, I
Speaker 1: agree with that distinction. And the it wasn't a surprise.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's been the whole point of the
Speaker 1: smaller investigation to begin with, right, is that we knew
Speaker 1: the president was a subject of it. So to me,
Speaker 1: this just reinforced what we already knew and then brought
Speaker 1: to light again these terms so that the public could
Speaker 1: educate themselves as to what they mean legally. Family, you've
Speaker 1: worked on a lot of a lot of cases, including
Speaker 1: a federal federal criminal cases in your career. Tell me
Speaker 1: about whether you can we get a sense as is
Speaker 1: the Mueller probe based on what we're hearing and seeing
Speaker 1: and these announcements, is it getting in the final phases here?
Speaker 1: Or do we have any idea about the timeline? I
Speaker 1: will say no amount of experience could could enable me
Speaker 1: to accurately gauge that, because everything is different. But I
Speaker 1: will say, clinically, looking at this from the beginning, we
Speaker 1: thought it would be wrapped up within three months. Right,
Speaker 1: That's what Mueller has teemed specifically said, And now we're
Speaker 1: stretching towards a year, and it would behoove everyone involved
Speaker 1: in that investigation and especially in the public if it
Speaker 1: were wrapped up soon for a multitude of reasons, one
Speaker 1: being our faith in the effectiveness of the investigation and
Speaker 1: our tex dollars that are paying for it, and also
Speaker 1: so that we make sure that it's far away from
Speaker 1: the mid term elections. Right we want to make sure
Speaker 1: that there there isn't any more that can be brought
Speaker 1: to the table as arguing against election integrity or arguing
Speaker 1: that things have been changed or affected in some way.
Speaker 1: And I also feel that there's a measure of fatigue
Speaker 1: associated with it. Right. Um, but I will say, you know,
Speaker 1: going back again, it's just my experience. Oh no, I've
Speaker 1: seen investigations last forever and then some that wrap up quickly.
Speaker 1: So um, just for listeners, I think it could be anything.
Speaker 1: But again for the reasons why I stated, it would
Speaker 1: behoove them to wrap this up as soon as possible,
Speaker 1: and also to prevent the argument that, look, is this
Speaker 1: has just become or with this always a fishing expedition,
Speaker 1: like you know you have at some point you have
Speaker 1: to surrender rather than keep digging and digging digging. Emily
Speaker 1: compon You everyone legal analysts follow her on Twitter at
Speaker 1: Emily compon You and also Emily compon You dot Com
Speaker 1: is her site. Emily always great to have you. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for the time. We'll talk to you soon.
Speaker 1: Thanks Buck, talk soon. All right, team, we got our
Speaker 1: three coming up. I'm gonna tell you a little bit
Speaker 1: about fake news. You've got some new new folks weighing
Speaker 1: in on the fake news or one guy in particular.
Speaker 1: We're gonna have some fun with it because, wow, among
Speaker 1: the worst people ever to be giving tutorials on what
Speaker 1: is and is not fake news. You can't even make
Speaker 1: this stuff up. I can't make it up, and I'm
Speaker 1: a pretty creative guy. So we'll be talking about that also.
Speaker 1: Zombie raccoons. M hm. You want to know about that.
Speaker 1: You gotta stay and keep listening because that's gonna be
Speaker 1: the next hour and uh hug a newsman day. We'll
Speaker 1: discuss we'll discuss our three coming up. Welcome to our
Speaker 1: three team. Great to have you here with me. So
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of debates, a lot of
Speaker 1: discussions out there, as you all know, about fake news.
Speaker 1: People keep talking about it. Trump has more than any
Speaker 1: figure in recent memory, held the media to account by saying,
Speaker 1: you know what, fake news is a real problem, and
Speaker 1: some of the biggest news outlets in the country are
Speaker 1: in fact guilty of it, either from time to time
Speaker 1: or sometimes some places, some organizations guilty of it a lot.
Speaker 1: But who should we turn to? What wise sage in
Speaker 1: the news space could we count on to let us
Speaker 1: know the truth fake news and how to avoid it.
Speaker 1: Here is a guide to protecting yourself against fake news
Speaker 1: from Dan Rather, the King of Fake News. If you're
Speaker 1: really interested in identifying fake news and figuring out what
Speaker 1: to believe, if you're truly invested in the work of
Speaker 1: being a good informed citizen, May I respectfully all for
Speaker 1: a short number one? Lets let's pause it for a second.
Speaker 1: Let's pause it for a second. Here you have a
Speaker 1: man who belongs to an era of TV news and
Speaker 1: TV journalism that is is rapidly going away. And he's
Speaker 1: someone who didn't have the competition you have to deal
Speaker 1: with today, certainly didn't have the Internet, didn't have all
Speaker 1: this different stuff. He was really a glorified actor. He
Speaker 1: would go on television none sound like this on how
Speaker 1: does hair a certain way and would stare into the
Speaker 1: camera a certain way. Now I actually this is random
Speaker 1: but true. Was an intern at CBS Evening News with
Speaker 1: Dan Rather when I was eighteen years old. My first
Speaker 1: ever internship, even though I didn't think I ever wanted
Speaker 1: to work in media, was in media because the executive
Speaker 1: producer at the time was a graduate of my high school,
Speaker 1: and his name just was on one of these lists
Speaker 1: of people you reach out to if you want an internship, right,
Speaker 1: so I checked it out. So I was there for
Speaker 1: for Dan Rather, and I remember showing up and and
Speaker 1: doing all the little intern things, you know. I was
Speaker 1: xeroxing and running scripts, which is a fancy way of
Speaker 1: saying taking things off a printer and handing them the people.
Speaker 1: It was good at that job. I did it with
Speaker 1: with Gusto. But I remember thinking, this guy Dan Rather,
Speaker 1: he shows up every day for his I forget was
Speaker 1: it five thirty or I guess six thirty, Broad asked.
Speaker 1: He shows up every day at like three o'clock in
Speaker 1: the afternoon, spends about forty minutes in the makeup chair,
Speaker 1: making sure that everything is just so, and kind of
Speaker 1: just gathering and talking. Yeah, and then he sits there
Speaker 1: and reads the words that someone else has written for
Speaker 1: him off of a prompter and goes home. And he
Speaker 1: was making seven million dollars a year to do that
Speaker 1: half hour show. Folks, I sit here, unscripted, doing the
Speaker 1: three hour radio show for you. So let me tell
Speaker 1: you when I say that a half hour show is
Speaker 1: really really not hard on TV. I mean it, especially
Speaker 1: when you're not even going extemporaneous. You're not just flying
Speaker 1: off the cuff. You're actually just reading off of the
Speaker 1: teleprompter what they tell you to. But John rather sounded
Speaker 1: the part, looked the part. But then yeah, a little
Speaker 1: little boo boo, little little snaffoo. Remember the whole National
Speaker 1: Guard document thing with Bush where he went on air
Speaker 1: with forged documents that could have changed the course of
Speaker 1: a presidential election. That was in fact fake news. And
Speaker 1: I would argue among the fakest of fake news moments
Speaker 1: that our media has ever dealt with. And I think
Speaker 1: there's just a particular hubris of having the king of
Speaker 1: fake news himself trying to tell this just was went
Speaker 1: out today, right, I'm not pulling something from the vault
Speaker 1: from years ago. He's out there trying to inform Americans
Speaker 1: about fake news out And since he's doing that, why
Speaker 1: don't we hear a little more saying that trusting a
Speaker 1: news outlet does not mean they're perfect. No one's perfect.
Speaker 1: It means they tell you when they screw up. Number two.
Speaker 1: Don't rely on just one news outlet. Number three, don't
Speaker 1: rely on just the news to understand an issue. Read books,
Speaker 1: find the experts, find out how issues are discussed outside
Speaker 1: of news. All right, So what do you have here
Speaker 1: is essentially condescending pompous Mr Rogers, That's what's going on.
Speaker 1: Condescending pompous Mr Rogers. No offense to Mr Rogers, But
Speaker 1: you're gonna read books. Don't just rely on one source
Speaker 1: for your news. Uh? And also no news sources perfect.
Speaker 1: We know everyone knows all of this. Literally, no one
Speaker 1: needs to be told any of this. Why Dan rather
Speaker 1: who got Look he's very lucky. He's a very lucky guy.
Speaker 1: There were forty other dudes with you know, nondescript coastal
Speaker 1: accents and side parted hair. I can say it because
Speaker 1: that's how I rock the side part Obviously that could
Speaker 1: have had that job. But he had that job and
Speaker 1: became incredibly wealthy, And you know, he's had a great run, right,
Speaker 1: he's a very lucky guy. But you know what it
Speaker 1: is the ego that people develop when they achieve any
Speaker 1: degree of notoriety in this business, especially when they have
Speaker 1: fame and wealth. A lot of people get overcome by
Speaker 1: their own ego. It just the ego monster is uncontrollable.
Speaker 1: I think with someone like Dan Rather, he really believes
Speaker 1: that he needs to set things right and that he's
Speaker 1: still a necessary part of the national conversation. Reminds me
Speaker 1: Larry Kings. I was like, hey, I'll come back on,
Speaker 1: you know, I'll interview anyone. Let's get it go. And
Speaker 1: it's like, we don't need we don't need him, We
Speaker 1: don't we don't need Larry King. It's okay, he had
Speaker 1: a great run. He had a great run, very lucky guy.
Speaker 1: But there are other people that will do these jobs. Now.
Speaker 1: It's okay to you know, focus on other things, focus
Speaker 1: on your private life, your personal life, your family, charity,
Speaker 1: whatever it may be. But journalists just don't want to
Speaker 1: give it up. And particular TV journalist and particularly do
Speaker 1: not ever want to step aside, never want to. They
Speaker 1: unlike when you think about other careers, you know, with
Speaker 1: everything from a small family business in all the way
Speaker 1: up to corporate America. People at some point generally want
Speaker 1: to stop, you know, they generally want to retire. These
Speaker 1: people in the in the media business who are from
Speaker 1: the old school of journalism, people like Dan Rather, Larry
Speaker 1: King and others, they never want to stop and never
Speaker 1: want to step aside. They think they should have the
Speaker 1: big job forever. Well, you know, that's not how it
Speaker 1: works the circle of life, my friends. It's time for
Speaker 1: some new stuff. But rather, I'm gonna try to have
Speaker 1: a play on words using his name there, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: avoid that. Rather would rather, I guess I just did
Speaker 1: it tell us all that we need to read books.
Speaker 1: He would rather lecture us on fake news. And there's
Speaker 1: something particularly galling about this is what he thinks he
Speaker 1: should be focusing on. I we think about the delusion.
Speaker 1: The guy who lost his job, and it was a
Speaker 1: hard thing to for him to get fired from CBS.
Speaker 1: It wasn't a me too, sexual harassment thing or anything
Speaker 1: like that. It was for the failure to perform the
Speaker 1: basic due diligence of a journalist in a presidential election
Speaker 1: when there could have been very real consequence I mean,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. We talked about Russia collusion and oh
Speaker 1: the and and he'll call me, and the email and
Speaker 1: everything else. You had the very media that now breathlessly
Speaker 1: reports on all the excuses that he has for why
Speaker 1: she didn't win the election. That very same media was
Speaker 1: the one that supported and really coddled and revered based
Speaker 1: on nothing. I never and I don't think the guy's
Speaker 1: not gonna be funny. He's not insightful. Uh you know,
Speaker 1: I don't get it, folks. He's just really really lucky.
Speaker 1: But that same media tried to throw the election back
Speaker 1: in two thousand four. That same media figured that they
Speaker 1: could come up with a way to completely destroy the
Speaker 1: chances of the Bush administration or destroy the chances of
Speaker 1: a Bush victory. And now here they're a lecture. Let's
Speaker 1: look a little more from from condescending Mr Rogers want
Speaker 1: to be rather here go ahead. Number four. If you
Speaker 1: find yourself agreeing with everything you use, outlet says you're
Speaker 1: doing it wrong. If your news doesn't challenge you, challenge
Speaker 1: your news, all right, pause it for a second. It's
Speaker 1: a little thing you're doing it wrong. Is a contemporary
Speaker 1: phrase that I promise you. Dan Rather does not use
Speaker 1: in his day to day He didn't write this, he
Speaker 1: didn't write it. No way, you're doing it wrong. That's
Speaker 1: what a couple of generations below him would say. You
Speaker 1: know if blah, but blah, you're doing it wrong. You
Speaker 1: know this is almost it is an internet mean ah.
Speaker 1: So Dan Rather is now lecturing you on fake news
Speaker 1: by reading the words that others wrote for him about
Speaker 1: fake news, and doesn't see the irony in any of this.
Speaker 1: Really thinks that we need to hear from him on
Speaker 1: it a little more, a little more. Number five, find
Speaker 1: a commentator whose politics differ from yours, intellection honest, even
Speaker 1: though their value is different from yours. If you can't
Speaker 1: find such a person, maybe the media is not the problem.
Speaker 1: And number six, remember that what the news tells you
Speaker 1: is far less important than what they decide to talk
Speaker 1: about in the first place. If they focus on personal,
Speaker 1: selacious and speculative stories. Find a new outlet. So he's
Speaker 1: basically saying that CNN stinks and you shouldn't watch it.
Speaker 1: So thanks for that, Dan Rather. Uh. I just it's
Speaker 1: as a guy who got into this business really by
Speaker 1: accident or kind of fell into it, I find it
Speaker 1: amazing that you still have these these They don't understand
Speaker 1: that the game has changed. This is a different world
Speaker 1: we're living in now, um, and we don't need we
Speaker 1: we don't need to have Dan Rather lecturing us about
Speaker 1: the news anymore. We really don't. A guy who tried
Speaker 1: to throw a presidential election for the Democrat against the
Speaker 1: Republican does not have to weigh in here. He's very rich.
Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a lot of beautiful golf courses he
Speaker 1: should be hanging out on, and I wish him all
Speaker 1: the best on them. I wish he would just leave
Speaker 1: the rest of us alone. He wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: get to first base in today's media environment. That's just
Speaker 1: the truth. And I mean if he were thirty years younger,
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Alright, we're rolling a quick break. We come back.
Speaker 1: Zombie raccoons are a real thing. Can you defend yourself
Speaker 1: against them? I will tell you when we come back. Now,
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you all about something. It's very serious.
Speaker 1: There have been sightings in Youngstown, Ohio, according to various
Speaker 1: news sources, of zombie raccoons. May be seeing yourself. What
Speaker 1: the heck is a zombie raccoon? Well, according to locals,
Speaker 1: it is quote raccoons that stand up on hind legs,
Speaker 1: which raccoons don't usually do, and they show their teeth
Speaker 1: and then they fall over backwards, and then they go
Speaker 1: into a comatose condition. End quote. This is quite a thing,
Speaker 1: my friends. This is happening. Numerous cases of zombie raccoon
Speaker 1: sightings in Youngstown, Ohio. I'm not sure the raccoon apocalypse
Speaker 1: is upon us quite yet, but I will tell you
Speaker 1: that raccoons from a distance look kind of cute. You
Speaker 1: get up close to them, though, and they are the
Speaker 1: stuff of nightmares. And in fact, if you've ever seen
Speaker 1: and don't ask you why, I've seen this, a photo
Speaker 1: of a completely shaved or furless raccoon, they look like
Speaker 1: some kind of giant mutant rat sent to destroy us all.
Speaker 1: So they're actually quite terrifying. I'm gonna tell you right now.
Speaker 1: It's a little story time with Buck. I had my own,
Speaker 1: my own encounter some years ago with a zombie raccoon.
Speaker 1: So I was going out to visit Dom, who was
Speaker 1: my program director at the Blaze. I was heading out
Speaker 1: to his house, lovely place. It's really a cabin. In
Speaker 1: the cabin in the woods, right next to a lake,
Speaker 1: and we had a great time. We went out a
Speaker 1: t ving and did all kinds of cool stuff. But
Speaker 1: it was it was rural, you know, it was a
Speaker 1: rural area. And I arrived at the at the house,
Speaker 1: at the cabin, and look, I'm I'm a guy who
Speaker 1: comes from the city, and I don't want people to think, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, I can't it can't handle all the scary
Speaker 1: animals and all. Although maybe that sometimes is how I feel,
Speaker 1: but you know, I'm I've been on the woods, been
Speaker 1: out in the desert, been out in war zones. Right,
Speaker 1: I should be able to handle anything. So I'm trying
Speaker 1: to be cool. I got a little little backpack on
Speaker 1: my three day pack, if you will. I'm walking up
Speaker 1: to the front door, and sure enough, a A and
Speaker 1: and Dom is being so hospitable. He's one of the
Speaker 1: nicest guys on the planet, he really is. And he's
Speaker 1: he brought me into radio years ago, taught me, worked
Speaker 1: with me, listen to my air checks, you know, gave
Speaker 1: me pointers in the earliest days of the Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: The first time out of this house, and I'm so excited,
Speaker 1: and a black lab it comes running out the door
Speaker 1: to greet me, and this is I'm like, this is perfect, right,
Speaker 1: It's this beautiful, uh you know, quiet cabin overlooking the lake.
Speaker 1: You know, uh, Mrs Doms has come out to say hi.
Speaker 1: But but first, this black lab comes out. And I
Speaker 1: love labs. I mean I love all dogs, but labs
Speaker 1: are in like my top ten. Your labs are a
Speaker 1: top ten dog for me. You know, I have my favorites.
Speaker 1: All canines are great for me, but I have my favorites.
Speaker 1: And so this black lab comes out and we're just
Speaker 1: rucal to black lab, and I'm you know, rubbing it
Speaker 1: around the years and you know, or the black lab
Speaker 1: is show cute and I'm I'm thinking it's gonna be
Speaker 1: my buddy for the next few days. Then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden, you know, I mean, a real growl comes
Speaker 1: out of this black lab, and I can see the
Speaker 1: fur on the back kind of staying out there, the
Speaker 1: whole thing, and the whole this dog is now very unhappy.
Speaker 1: And I turned around and this is broad daylight, folks.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's maybe noon. I mean it's as
Speaker 1: bright and sunny days you can get. And I turned
Speaker 1: around and out from this wood pile that was right
Speaker 1: next to the front door. Scurries the scariest looking zombie
Speaker 1: raccoon I've ever seen. I have never seen this in
Speaker 1: myfore before in my life. My friends and the guys
Speaker 1: the students there talking about it went back on its
Speaker 1: hind legs like a bear, except those little raccoon hind legs.
Speaker 1: And then you saw it's like nasty, little creepy claw,
Speaker 1: you know, has these little creepy claw hands and baring
Speaker 1: its teeth at the dog. And I'm standing there, I'm
Speaker 1: just like, oh God, I'm thinking doesn't have rabies. And
Speaker 1: now we've got the black Lab and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: The city slicker here did not exactly jump into action.
Speaker 1: I was just like, oh no, what through it was,
Speaker 1: everything's kind of slow motion because I got this beloved
Speaker 1: black Lab facing off against zombie raccoon. First two minutes
Speaker 1: of my then boss, I'm visiting his house, hanging out
Speaker 1: with his family, and we we got a we got
Speaker 1: a zombie raccoon going up against the family pet. This
Speaker 1: is like an old yellow situation, folks, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is this is high stakes. It's intense. And then sure
Speaker 1: enough I stand there frozen and do nothing. Dumb runs
Speaker 1: into you know, God, God blessed Michigan, uh, you know,
Speaker 1: runs into his house. He is a a lawful second
Speaker 1: Amendment second Amendment proponent of the United States. And sure
Speaker 1: enough he had a I forget what it was. I
Speaker 1: think it was. I think he pulled out a thirty eight.
Speaker 1: And he comes out, and then about this all happened
Speaker 1: to span of about ten seconds. He just comes out
Speaker 1: and the zombie raccoon is on its back legs, it's
Speaker 1: a little claws and everything. And I'm standing there. I'm like,
Speaker 1: and the dog is or and they're about to square off,
Speaker 1: and tob comes out and just boom boom boom. And
Speaker 1: I mean that raccoon, zombie raccoon, not much left. I
Speaker 1: couldn't even make a hat out of it. It's just done.
Speaker 1: So so I just want to tell you about that
Speaker 1: because it's really a public safety announcement. If in fact,
Speaker 1: you see a zombie raccoon where you are, do not approach,
Speaker 1: do not let Fido or Muffie the poodle go anywhere
Speaker 1: near it. Get yourself to the nearest location where you
Speaker 1: have a firearm, or or however you prefer to deal
Speaker 1: with raccoons, and some of you are probably like, I'll
Speaker 1: use a bow whatever, bow and arrow works too, whatever
Speaker 1: you got and handle the situation appropriately in a manner
Speaker 1: worthy of the Walking Dead. Zombie raccoon was toast. I
Speaker 1: felt like it was important to share that story because
Speaker 1: this is a this is happening in Youngstown, Ohio. People.
Speaker 1: They think for those of you who are wondering, like,
Speaker 1: why is Buck telling you this crazy story, they don't
Speaker 1: believe that it's rabies um. They think that it actually
Speaker 1: comes from a disease called distemper, which can affect raccoons.
Speaker 1: It's not contagious to humans, though, but it can make
Speaker 1: them do crazy things and the Brandon spinal quarter affected.
Speaker 1: So maybe there's a scientific reason for this, or they're
Speaker 1: just zombie raccoons. Folks, be on the lookout. You never
Speaker 1: know when one of them is gonna come flying out
Speaker 1: of the woodpile when you're trying to impress the boss
Speaker 1: and his wife for a weekend away. And with that,
Speaker 1: I'm going to go into a break. I'll be right back. Brothers,
Speaker 1: don't shake hands, Brothers gotta hug. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many of you know this, and uh, I definitely don't
Speaker 1: know how many of you care. I'm guessing not very many.
Speaker 1: But today today is in fact National Hug a news
Speaker 1: Person Day. That's right, every April four, it is National
Speaker 1: Hugging news Person Day. It was formerly National Hugging new
Speaker 1: news Man Day. And this gives people the opportunity to
Speaker 1: say thank you and hug their local news person. Uh So,
Speaker 1: the way you're supposed to this is so dumb. I know.
Speaker 1: The way you're supposed to observe this is if you
Speaker 1: aren't able to hug your news person, you can send
Speaker 1: them a virtual one. Use hashtag hug a news person
Speaker 1: data post on social media. So those of you who
Speaker 1: feel like I don't know, maybe you have maybe you
Speaker 1: have a favorite news person who does radio every night
Speaker 1: for Premier Networks from six to nine Eastern uh and
Speaker 1: has a really widely downloaded podcast that you think is great.
Speaker 1: And I mean, maybe there's somebody who fits that description
Speaker 1: and you want to send them a virtual hug with
Speaker 1: hashtag hug a news person. This is the This is
Speaker 1: like the lamest call out I think I've ever done.
Speaker 1: All this show. I think it's really funny, it's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You don't have to do it. I'm just kidding. I
Speaker 1: swear mostly, but I'd also say that we've we've entured
Speaker 1: in an era now where I don't know if I'm
Speaker 1: allowed to hug colleagues because of all the stuff that's
Speaker 1: happened in the last year, I now am in this
Speaker 1: awkward position of uh, I ask for permission. I asked
Speaker 1: for permission to hug. People can hug me, I don't care.
Speaker 1: I mean pretty much anyone, a stranger on the street
Speaker 1: could hug me. It doesn't bother me. But I asked
Speaker 1: for permission before I hug even people that I know
Speaker 1: really well. So maybe you get kind of a pass
Speaker 1: on national hug a newsperson day. I wouldn't I wouldn't
Speaker 1: necessarily bet on that. But we have reached a period
Speaker 1: now where, oh, even when I do a live event
Speaker 1: somewhere like I did recently out in Indiana. When I
Speaker 1: do a live event, you know how you take a
Speaker 1: photo of somebody, usually want to do the like hand
Speaker 1: on the back, you know, because you're you're presenting a
Speaker 1: friendly a friendly picture, and I male, female, doesn't matter.
Speaker 1: I gotta you know, is it okay if I put
Speaker 1: my hand on your back? And sometimes even just do
Speaker 1: the hand that is raised that looks like my hands
Speaker 1: on the person's back, but I actually don't touch them
Speaker 1: because I feel like that's okay. But the whole thing
Speaker 1: is just so weird. You know. You look at other cultures,
Speaker 1: they do the whole kiss on the cheek thing. Some
Speaker 1: of you that you know what I'm talking about. In uh,
Speaker 1: you know, some Middle Eastern countries and European countries, you
Speaker 1: get guys kiss each other on both cheeks and there's
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff going on there. Um, so you know,
Speaker 1: in terms of hugging, and of course there's well I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the hug stuff has gotten weird. The hug
Speaker 1: stuff has gotten weird. And now I don't really know,
Speaker 1: but huggy is important everyone, you know. So how about
Speaker 1: this instead of do hashtag hug your favorite newsperson day,
Speaker 1: which you can do if you want, because some other
Speaker 1: people that I know in the business, they had their
Speaker 1: followers and listeners and such on social media. Give them
Speaker 1: hashtag hugs anyway, But give a hug to somebody who
Speaker 1: actually means a lot to you, you know, not just
Speaker 1: in the in the sense of entertaining you. I mean,
Speaker 1: give a hug to somebody that you really love in
Speaker 1: your life. How about that? So go give someone a
Speaker 1: big hug. We call it freedom hut hug day. Go
Speaker 1: go hug someone really matters to you, a big one.
Speaker 1: You're you got orders team. Find someone that matters to
Speaker 1: you right now or right when the show's over. Don't
Speaker 1: don't stop listening and give him a big hug. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll be right back. Show ain't over yet, folks. It's
Speaker 1: time for roll call rock and roll. You can't see it,
Speaker 1: but I'm doing crazy air guitar in here, all right.
Speaker 1: First up with a roll call. Here we have uh Lauren,
Speaker 1: who writes, I love that movie. That's in response to
Speaker 1: me saying, did you catch my movie reference when I
Speaker 1: said savor the flavor because it won't happen again? A
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy reference. She now responded Lauren on face book,
Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to say that I had to google the
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy quote, and even worse, I've never even seen
Speaker 1: Tommy Boy. I'll remedy that soon, Lauren. You have homework,
Speaker 1: all right. You need to see some Tommy Boy. It
Speaker 1: is a fantastic and fun film. I think it's Chris
Speaker 1: Farley's best movie, so you should take my word for
Speaker 1: it and check it out. I've got such a long
Speaker 1: list now of all I gotta watch, chap Atquittic, Last
Speaker 1: Man Standing, Home Improvement, I got all these things now
Speaker 1: I gotta watch and Ms. Molly is always like, you know,
Speaker 1: we we could also just do activities outside. I'm like,
Speaker 1: you know, honey, You're right. I don't just have to
Speaker 1: watch things and read things and do media all the time.
Speaker 1: Must have a life, must figure out my life. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't want to become one of these weird media
Speaker 1: robot types. Next up, we got Phil who writes buck
Speaker 1: Love the show I'm catching up on Monday's podcast, and
Speaker 1: you mentioned during your discussion of McKinley he was the
Speaker 1: only president from the Great State of Ohio. As a
Speaker 1: native of the Great State of Ohio, I take umbradge
Speaker 1: with that Ohio is actually tied with Virginia of states
Speaker 1: with the most presidents at eight. William Henry Harrison ninth,
Speaker 1: President Ulysses S. Grant eighteen, Rutherford Behayes nineteen, James Garfield twenty,
Speaker 1: Benjamin Harrison twenty three, William McKinley twenty five, William Taft,
Speaker 1: William Hardy. Sorry we're in Harding twenty nine. Just the
Speaker 1: general bucks Lap. Keep up the great work, Phil You're
Speaker 1: totally right. I was totally wrong. I can't remember. So
Speaker 1: here's why that was stuck in my head. When they
Speaker 1: renamed Mount McKinley Denali officially under President Obama. You you
Speaker 1: will recall that happened. Uh, there was Ohio was was
Speaker 1: upset about it, and I can't And I thought it
Speaker 1: was because McKinley was the only something and from having
Speaker 1: to do with Ohio. And now I can't remember what
Speaker 1: the statistic or what the factoid was. Clearly though, I
Speaker 1: stand thoroughly buck slapped, and you are in fact correct.
Speaker 1: Eight presidents tied to Ohio. And I would note that, Philly,
Speaker 1: you weren't the only one. I got lit up on this.
Speaker 1: But you know what, I liked that all of you
Speaker 1: actually listen and you pay attention, and you call me
Speaker 1: out when I make a mistake. So definitely, I I
Speaker 1: can't pass the buck on that one. I I got caught.
Speaker 1: I got caught up and I stand corrected. Uh. Next up,
Speaker 1: will writes, tell Bill Hammer his hairs out of place. Oh,
Speaker 1: that must have been during my hit today on Fox News.
Speaker 1: Hammer is one of the greats. He's a really talented broadcaster,
Speaker 1: a super nice guy, and very very skilled on camera.
Speaker 1: I know people watch some of the news shows they think, well,
Speaker 1: you know, how hard, how hard can this be? To
Speaker 1: be good at It is actually really hard. Anyone can
Speaker 1: do it. But it's kind of like soccer. Well maybe
Speaker 1: this's a bad Now you're like, Buck, you're a communist.
Speaker 1: Why are you talking about soccer or in Europe football? Uh,
Speaker 1: but soccer is a simple game made hard by the
Speaker 1: people playing it. Alright, to kick a ball and to
Speaker 1: kick it into a big net not hard. It's just
Speaker 1: the other folks around you and all the other things
Speaker 1: that get added into it make it hard anything. It's
Speaker 1: true at TV. Anyone can speak into a camera on TV,
Speaker 1: especially if they're reading some stuff off the prompter, but
Speaker 1: to do it well, to do it better than other people,
Speaker 1: becomes very difficult. Next up here we have Mike, who writes, Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: great show. I'm always a day late when listening, curious
Speaker 1: what the reality of using the military defend our borders is.
Speaker 1: I find it funny to hear people say we need
Speaker 1: to bring our military back home to defend our country.
Speaker 1: But we'll freak out when the talk of preventing this
Speaker 1: convoy of entering our country happens. As they are sitting
Speaker 1: on and defending a lot of borders of other countries.
Speaker 1: But the thought of using to protect our own borders
Speaker 1: makes progressives lose their minds. Look, Mike, I think you're
Speaker 1: raising a very good point here. It's the national guard
Speaker 1: for this nation, not for other nations. Why wouldn't we
Speaker 1: defend our borders? Isn't it interesting to note how successful
Speaker 1: and widespread the propaganda has been that we are now
Speaker 1: in a situation where the notion of defending borders at all,
Speaker 1: and I just mean enforcing borders is tied in with
Speaker 1: thoughts of racism, xenophobia, fear of foreigners, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: When every other country in the world defends its borders,
Speaker 1: maintains its borders, has laws about who comes and who goes,
Speaker 1: it is true. I know people try to dismiss it
Speaker 1: as some kind of talking point, But if you don't
Speaker 1: have borders, you don't have a country. Is that straightforward?
Speaker 1: Next up, we've got Kevin who whoa quite a note
Speaker 1: here from Kevin Buck. I catched the show every morning
Speaker 1: via podcast. On Tuesday, you mentioned there's a high percentage
Speaker 1: of Americans who, uh I haven't read a book in
Speaker 1: the last year. This hit me for some reason as
Speaker 1: another division of the population. Am I being too sensitive? Maybe?
Speaker 1: But here's a short rundown explanation of why I may
Speaker 1: fall in this category. Household minimum since I was twenty
Speaker 1: seven of two children, two adults, three children, one dog,
Speaker 1: one cat. Today six adults, two grandchildren, three dogs, two cats,
Speaker 1: and one hamster. Occupation, fifty five year old truck driver
Speaker 1: and thirty seven years four plus million miles. The current
Speaker 1: schedule up at oh three fifty back at the house
Speaker 1: at seventeen thirty ish. Chores, chores, chores, lots of stuff. Point,
Speaker 1: I'm not unique. Most Americans are busy. I do read,
Speaker 1: as you mentioned, articles, news, etcetera, and audio books. I
Speaker 1: do read Bible versus daily. I do read the Heritage
Speaker 1: Guide to the Constitution. I do have ten books I'll
Speaker 1: eventually get to but lately no love your show and
Speaker 1: Shields hies amazing. Keep it up, Kevin. Ps. I have
Speaker 1: a granddaughter named Molly. Well Kevin, that's great and Ms
Speaker 1: Monley will get a kick out of that, so thank
Speaker 1: you and Kevin, I hear you. I admitted this yesterday
Speaker 1: on the show. I've gone through periods where I realized
Speaker 1: I haven't read a book in a while. Yeah. For me, though,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like the gym, you know, or or
Speaker 1: when I say the gym, whatever your activity, your physical
Speaker 1: activity is, and I've gone through periods or I'm just
Speaker 1: begging to get pre Dad Dad bond, right, I'm just
Speaker 1: I'm scarf and chocolate left, and that's really chocolate and
Speaker 1: French fries. I always say my weakness. I mean, if
Speaker 1: if anyone ever comes up with French fries dipped in chocolate,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna end up having a heart attack
Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. So you know, I've gone
Speaker 1: through periods where I've I've been injured, I've been too
Speaker 1: tired of been too stressed. I've you know, gotten a
Speaker 1: little unhealthy, and you just you fight back and you
Speaker 1: do what you can to get back in a good rhythm.
Speaker 1: The same thing is true reading, and you should really
Speaker 1: think of it that way. You know, it's not oh,
Speaker 1: I haven't read a book in last year. That says
Speaker 1: something about me. As you point out Kevin. It just
Speaker 1: says you're busy. I get that. I'm just trying to
Speaker 1: encourage myself and everyone listening to the show. Have a
Speaker 1: book that you are reading. Don't worry about how quickly
Speaker 1: you're going through it. Read two or three pages at
Speaker 1: a time. But keep it on your keep it within
Speaker 1: reach of your favorite chair, keep it next to your
Speaker 1: bed if you're like me and you like to read
Speaker 1: at night before you go to sleep, or just have
Speaker 1: it out on the coffee table. Not a coffee table book, right,
Speaker 1: not you know, paintings from seventeenth century France. No, like
Speaker 1: a book you're actually like, I want to read it.
Speaker 1: You know. Maybe it's, uh, maybe it's the latest brad
Speaker 1: Thor novel, or maybe you picked up my friend Sean
Speaker 1: Parnell's novel that that's just come out now. Um, I
Speaker 1: just finished Outlaw Platoon recently and it's a phenomenal book.
Speaker 1: And Shawn such a great dude, and as you know,
Speaker 1: we have him here on the show whenever we can.
Speaker 1: But whatever it is, you know, if it's the great
Speaker 1: big book of the history of of knitting, you know,
Speaker 1: knitting is cool. Everyone needs sweaters, right, you do? You?
Speaker 1: Whatever it is, just make time to read. Make it
Speaker 1: a habit. It's reading is a habit, just like health
Speaker 1: and fitness. It's a habit. And just because you're busy
Speaker 1: for a while and you've fallen out of it, doesn't
Speaker 1: mean you don't go back to it. Right, So I
Speaker 1: think that's important. And as I say this, I'm going, yeah, Buck,
Speaker 1: you know what was? Although, actually, if I've been on
Speaker 1: a good tear recently, um and when I first started
Speaker 1: the media business, I was reading stacks and stacks. Now
Speaker 1: I spend more time preparing for the day to day
Speaker 1: of my shows, but I want to make sure that
Speaker 1: I'm getting enough time to read. And it's something I'm
Speaker 1: gonna work on. Next up here, Sarah rights, Hey, Buck,
Speaker 1: I would like to see some more or if you
Speaker 1: would like to see some more a flyover Country, come
Speaker 1: check out the Memphis Bell on display at the US
Speaker 1: Air Force Museum in Dayton, Ohio. She debuts on Maen.
Speaker 1: I took two days off to be at the museum
Speaker 1: for all the events. Well, Sarah, thank you for the
Speaker 1: heads up, and that's really cool. I didn't know that
Speaker 1: that was a thing that was happening. So it turns
Speaker 1: out Memphis Bell which for those of you who haven't
Speaker 1: seen it, it's just a really good World War two movie,
Speaker 1: you know, no agenda, no nothing, just showing you the
Speaker 1: reality of aerial combat and a B seventeen bomber at
Speaker 1: the time. So but thank you, Sarah. I would love
Speaker 1: to get out to Ohio. I was. I swear I'm
Speaker 1: not just making this up. I uh just yesterday had
Speaker 1: launch with a friend who's Ohio base and he was saying,
Speaker 1: you gotta come out and see us, and I said, oh,
Speaker 1: I'll come visit some of the affiliates, and it is
Speaker 1: absolutely on my list. Uh we got Joe up next year.
Speaker 1: I was listening to your to your podcast from four
Speaker 1: three and you were talking about allowing yourself time for
Speaker 1: a novel. I hear you man have a kid, Not
Speaker 1: to be a jerk, more of a romantic comedy comment.
Speaker 1: Those are probably the adults who are shoveling food on
Speaker 1: their kids tummies. Huh. I love the show. I work
Speaker 1: from home and have office time in the evenings where
Speaker 1: I look forward to my time with Buck. Thanks Buddy,
Speaker 1: Shields high Joe, Oh, thank you Joe, and uh yeah, look,
Speaker 1: make time make time for a novel. If I could
Speaker 1: some unsolicited, but I think pretty good advice. Always have
Speaker 1: not a fiction book and a nonfiction book that are
Speaker 1: in your orbit. I'm not saying you gotta read one
Speaker 1: a week. I'm not saying you gotta read one a month.
Speaker 1: Have a fiction book, have a non action book. And
Speaker 1: when every whenever you have a thought in your mind,
Speaker 1: what am I gonna do with my time right now?
Speaker 1: Or you know I'm a little bored, read you never
Speaker 1: you never be bored. Read Next, up here we have Steven,
Speaker 1: who writes listening to yesterday's podcast, you definitely should see
Speaker 1: Last Man Standing. Well, thank you, Steve. I'm on it,
Speaker 1: looking forward to it, and I will do it. Uh.
Speaker 1: Mike writes, I can't get through on the phone ever,
Speaker 1: You're so popular. It's weird, though I can get through
Speaker 1: to Rush and Beck and kill Mead. You're my favorite though. Well, Mike,
Speaker 1: you're the man do Thank you so much. That's very
Speaker 1: kind of you. I'm in very rarefied company there with
Speaker 1: the great Rush and Beck and Uh and Mr kill
Speaker 1: Mead and you wrote also another great show. We love
Speaker 1: you in North Carolina. Well, Mike, we in the Freedom Hunt.
Speaker 1: We love you up here in New York City. So
Speaker 1: thank you very much, sir for your kind words and
Speaker 1: your support. It really does mean a lot and I
Speaker 1: appreciate it. Um Jen rites great show today. Have you
Speaker 1: read The Lord of the Rings yet? I try to
Speaker 1: read the Hobbit once a year. Jen, I'll tell you,
Speaker 1: I actually, uh did read The Lord of the Rings
Speaker 1: many years ago. And I also had The Lord of
Speaker 1: the Rings read to me, and it's one of the
Speaker 1: things I most remember from grammar school. I had a
Speaker 1: fourth grade teacher and Mr Bill Ryan, who was just
Speaker 1: a magnificent educator and a lot of you know what
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I mean, he he created an environment
Speaker 1: where he was he was telling great stories, and he
Speaker 1: loved baseball and told us about his childhood and the
Speaker 1: Bronx and playing stickball in the streets. But also would
Speaker 1: have us listen to the Vivaldi Four Seasons and it
Speaker 1: would play all this incredible classical music in the classroom
Speaker 1: all the time, would and and he would just read
Speaker 1: to us also. He'd be like, all right, everybody, we're
Speaker 1: gonna take a little break here, and he would read
Speaker 1: to us for you know, fifteen or twenty minutes at
Speaker 1: a time. Everybody just relax, and I'm gonna read you
Speaker 1: when you're a fourth grader, so I forget old that
Speaker 1: is I don't know, um, you know, ten eleven, twelve
Speaker 1: years old, something like that. When you're a fourth grader
Speaker 1: and someone's reading to you and they really and they
Speaker 1: love it and you know it and it's a great
Speaker 1: book like the Well Trilogy, like The Lord of the
Speaker 1: Rings stays with you. Uh. I would just put it out.
Speaker 1: I don't have kids, so you guys are all uh
Speaker 1: experts in raising young young men, young women, you know,
Speaker 1: boys and girls. UM, I have not done that yet.
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to it though hopefully soon. But I
Speaker 1: would just say, if you're ever looking for someone to
Speaker 1: read to your kids, starve with the Hobbit, make your
Speaker 1: way in the Lord of the Rings. It's something I'll
Speaker 1: never forget. And Bill Ryan passed away some years ago,
Speaker 1: but he had a really big impact on me. Um.
Speaker 1: And without my friends, I'm gonna close up the hut
Speaker 1: for the day. Excited me back with you tomorrow. As always,
Speaker 1: Shields High