WEBVTT - Mr. Brooks Marks: Real Housewives to Reality Royalty

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<v Speaker 1>Misspelling with Tory Spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi, Hi, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>super excited to chat with you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, me too. You look way more beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>than me right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Please, I would say, what filter do you have on?

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<v Speaker 2>But you don't need a filter, But what filter do you.

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<v Speaker 1>Have to crank up the zoombler all the way?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? What how do I do that?

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<v Speaker 1>I actually don't know if I did, but wait, let

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<v Speaker 1>me see. Yeah, you can fully touch up your parents

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<v Speaker 1>on zoom.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm an old bitch. So like archaic actresses,

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<v Speaker 2>they would be like vasoline on the lens.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually learned about that in film school.

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<v Speaker 2>Really.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they fully like taught me all about that before

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<v Speaker 1>the preface tune days.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god. And when I was younger, I never

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<v Speaker 2>understood like older actresses and actress they would always be

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<v Speaker 2>like it's mostly actresses. They'd be like, never let them

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<v Speaker 2>film you from above, always from below, and now like

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<v Speaker 2>every pictures Like, I mean, you're young, but I'm sure

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<v Speaker 2>like your mom's always like put the camera up too.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, that's so cool though. I'm sure you like

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<v Speaker 1>have so many cool stories from all your experience with

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<v Speaker 1>the film industry and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like I do and I have a really

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<v Speaker 2>good memory, thank goodness. But yeah, especially stories from my dad,

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<v Speaker 2>Like my dad would tell me the most amazing stories

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't appreciate as a kid, and now looking back,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my gosh, yeah, those were iconic. And

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<v Speaker 2>when I tell yeah, if I'm out with Brents, They're like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>what your dad? What in this Hollywood actress? Like that's crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>and like, oh wow, it was so like I was

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<v Speaker 2>just used to hearing about it every single day. But whatever,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about you. Are you sick of talking about yourself?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't do it that much honestly.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, find do you want to talk about me?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Really?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, what do you want to ask?

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<v Speaker 1>You're interested to hear about? Like all this film experience

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<v Speaker 1>and what so cool? I feel like also like it's

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<v Speaker 1>so saturated now and like ten years ago or however

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<v Speaker 1>long ago, like fifty years ago, like when your dad

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<v Speaker 1>was doing it, but like it was such a small

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<v Speaker 1>community and I feel like it's massive. You said massive, right,

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<v Speaker 1>am I wrong?

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<v Speaker 2>No, it's I don't know if it's a blessing or

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<v Speaker 2>a curse. Like when I was growing up, there was

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<v Speaker 2>like four like primetime networks like like you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>now was streaming. There's so many you can't even like,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know when things are coming and going

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<v Speaker 2>because you know, there's no more like billboards. I mean

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<v Speaker 2>there are, but like you know what I mean, It's like,

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<v Speaker 2>did you see the show on some streamer that I've

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<v Speaker 2>never even heard of? And it's like no, But then

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<v Speaker 2>I'll watch it. I'll be like, this is great. So

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<v Speaker 2>in my mind, I'm like, oh, there's so many opportunities.

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<v Speaker 2>And it doesn't matter what field we're in, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>if it's acting, if it's reality, if it's it's like, great,

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<v Speaker 2>we there's a million things we made now. But I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know if that's true.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's true. I mean it's really it's true. I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like, yeah, streaming is such a blessing. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>blessing for like everything being more accessible, giving so much

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<v Speaker 1>more opportunity.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It also feel like it makes artistic vision like diluted.

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<v Speaker 1>If that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I agree with you. Describe how why you feel about though.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that we're getting into like this course of

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<v Speaker 1>the film industry. I can't.

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<v Speaker 2>But what would you think I wanted to ask about

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<v Speaker 2>Real Housewives. Probably everyone els you about that. I'll get there.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, you know how like when you would

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<v Speaker 1>go to the theater and like seeing a film, it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a totally different experience. But now it's just

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<v Speaker 1>so accessible that it's like not really something people think about.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, oh, you don't like the movie, turn it

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<v Speaker 1>off and put something new on, Whereas like before you

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<v Speaker 1>were so invested in it and whatnot. Maybe now I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>What even the bad ones. No, it was like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like have you ever walked out of a movie,

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<v Speaker 2>out of a theater and left?

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<v Speaker 1>No? Have you?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Never.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like if I'm buying this ticket, getting my snacks,

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<v Speaker 1>like I'm gonna sit through it, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm there for the snacks, yeah and everything. I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>The good thing is you can get like drinks now,

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<v Speaker 2>So that's that's a piece we invested. But I have

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<v Speaker 2>five kids, so you have to keep in mind. It's

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<v Speaker 2>different than what I'm typically would want to go see,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I would want for me, I love you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I would want to see independent films, like a documentary.

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<v Speaker 2>I would want to see horror films like I can't

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<v Speaker 2>see any of those with my kids.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you do Sundance ever?

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<v Speaker 2>I did? I used to.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's so.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if the experience, Like I did it before

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<v Speaker 2>you were alive, So I.

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<v Speaker 1>Wonder not humanly possible? Well twenty six.

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<v Speaker 2>Whoa wait, I'm really bad with mats. You were born one.

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<v Speaker 1>Year in nineteen ninety nine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I did it before you were alive. Oh fuck me.

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<v Speaker 1>I would have never guessed that. That's kind of insane.

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<v Speaker 1>You're like defying odds of humanity.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll take that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's a major compliment. I mean, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a T shirt? What? Defying the odds of humanity.

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<v Speaker 1>Should be my next straw?

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<v Speaker 2>Don't forget about me when you do it.

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<v Speaker 1>The inspiration that's right here.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like I had a film in Sundance

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<v Speaker 2>in ninety got ninety eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's really cool.

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<v Speaker 2>And I just remember I think it was ninety eight,

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<v Speaker 2>but I just remember thinking this is so cuckoo, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my gosh, our films in Sundance

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<v Speaker 2>like this is. It was like a tiny little film

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<v Speaker 2>we made. It was called The House of Yes. And

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<v Speaker 2>then I made a movie called trick and both of

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<v Speaker 2>them gone to Sundance, But the first one I was going,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know what to expect. And I'm a girl

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<v Speaker 2>that grew up in Beverly Hills, like I had no

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<v Speaker 2>idea about snow and like being in the outdoors. So

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<v Speaker 2>I just remember thinking, like, what did I see like

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<v Speaker 2>Gwyneth Paltrow like wearing. And I remember going into Oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god, I went into Prada and bought like a

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<v Speaker 2>pants suit. And I thought because I was like trying

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<v Speaker 2>to be like on Beverly Hills like girl nine o

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<v Speaker 2>two one zero and being like I'm an artist and

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<v Speaker 2>actress and I need to be taken seriously. And I

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<v Speaker 2>bought a pants suit that I took to Sundance and

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<v Speaker 2>got there and I was like and heels, and I was.

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<v Speaker 1>Like horrified, Why is ever like jeans and a sweater?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, of course. And I was like I think I

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<v Speaker 2>had to borrow stuff from friends, Like it was like ridiculous. Anyway, Sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you like.

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<v Speaker 1>It was today? I probably would like, literally they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even sell clothes on main Street, Like main Street literally

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<v Speaker 1>just got no lemon. Like five years ago, it's insane.

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<v Speaker 2>There was nothing. Yeah, there was like a couple like bars,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah that.

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<v Speaker 1>Was a no name, like did you do those? Or

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<v Speaker 1>because like the Chase Safire Lounge is not always been

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<v Speaker 1>there was out there in nineteen ninety eight, like what

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<v Speaker 1>were the vibes of Sundance in nineteen ninety eight was

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<v Speaker 1>like literally just see the film because now it's so

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<v Speaker 1>like events, you know what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, No, it wasn't like that. You would like

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<v Speaker 2>the cast of each film, like they would have you

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<v Speaker 2>in like there was no airbnb. It was like a

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<v Speaker 2>cabin they would rent you and like you would all

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<v Speaker 2>stay with all your co stars and yeah, or you

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<v Speaker 2>would stay at the hotel and there was like one

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<v Speaker 2>hotel and then you would go see the film and

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<v Speaker 2>then it would always be like word of mouth, like

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<v Speaker 2>it would be like, oh, this director is having a

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<v Speaker 2>party back at there like cabin or whatever, Like I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know. There wasn't like the events that are now

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<v Speaker 2>like now it's major and everyone goes. And at the

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<v Speaker 2>time it wasn't a thing like if you weren't in

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<v Speaker 2>a film, like you didn't go.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean it's insane, it's so much fun. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would not if it was nineteen ninety eight. I

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<v Speaker 1>probably would not have been able to attend sundowns, but

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<v Speaker 1>I'm very grateful for them because you were born, which

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<v Speaker 1>I am available to attend it and stuff. It's super fun.

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<v Speaker 2>Well at least you. I mean, where are you right now?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm in Austin, Texas?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait? Do you live there? Shright now?

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<v Speaker 1>This?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>My boyfriend lives between Austin and LA and so we

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<v Speaker 1>are in a long distance relationship and right now I

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<v Speaker 1>am visiting him.

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<v Speaker 2>How long have you guys been together?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a year and almost a half. I'd say we

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<v Speaker 1>met actually at Sundance, but officially became committed in a

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<v Speaker 1>relationship in like April of last year.

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<v Speaker 2>So you have so long distance entire time then? Mm hmmm,

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<v Speaker 2>oh my.

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<v Speaker 1>Goodness at a long distance and like still is.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay? Are you worry for the next move? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>And like when are when are we gonna like get

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<v Speaker 1>a place in New York together?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that the face you've called him the most incredible boyfriend? Yes?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean he's.

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<v Speaker 2>Well you have to say that because you're with him currently?

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<v Speaker 1>Could that would be a toxic on healthy relationship, which

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<v Speaker 1>I know all too much about. But I think I

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<v Speaker 1>forgot what the other what what did you just ask?

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<v Speaker 2>I forgot, I don't know. You laughed and smiled, and

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<v Speaker 2>I got distracted. Oh you were telling me the next

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<v Speaker 2>step would be to move in together. Oh and you

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<v Speaker 2>were going to get a place in New York. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the game plan.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's where like all my work is

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<v Speaker 1>based and all my inspiration really comes out of New

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<v Speaker 1>York with my brand and whatnot. I also love La

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<v Speaker 1>and so the fact that he's part Austin part LA, Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I can deal with the La of it, the Austin part.

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<v Speaker 1>It's super fun getting to explore a new city, but.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I've ever been it'll.

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<v Speaker 1>Figuring it out, yeah, I mean they have like everything here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's pretty crazy. But they say that is if it's

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<v Speaker 1>like not a metropolitan city, pretty cool town. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I basically just come here for my man.

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<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. Wait, so you guys met at Sundance? You

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<v Speaker 2>can we tell the story before?

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry, No, I really haven't gotten into it. We met

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<v Speaker 1>at like an event. How did this pop up at Sundance?

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<v Speaker 1>And there was this really handsome man that just like

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<v Speaker 1>walked into this VIP if you will, Like it's not

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<v Speaker 1>actually the ip everyone's just hopping the rope. But did

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<v Speaker 1>you hop the rope? You don't need to No, I didn't,

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<v Speaker 1>but like I could have in theory. But he like

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<v Speaker 1>walked in, he was super cute, handsome, drew my eye

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<v Speaker 1>and then.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, can I stop you? Yeah, said, okay, the first

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<v Speaker 2>thing you said about him was cute. Yeah, so that's

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<v Speaker 2>my favorite. To me, that is such a good description

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<v Speaker 2>of somebody if you're interested in I had someone I

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<v Speaker 2>was dating say to me, like, you just called me cute.

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<v Speaker 2>That's how we describe kids or dogs. And I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, to me, cute is everything, Like anyone can

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<v Speaker 2>be like handsome, good looking, Like that's cute is a

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<v Speaker 2>really great combination. Do you feel that way?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I feel like cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Is all like now it's just saying cute.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I agree, But I think that cute is also

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<v Speaker 1>used to like describe a vibe, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not even just a physical appearance. It's like, this

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<v Speaker 1>is a cute situation, like that's your generation, not mine.

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<v Speaker 1>We reach it, okay, But he just like walked in

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<v Speaker 1>and caught my eye and then we were dancing chatting

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<v Speaker 1>all night and it was really bizarre. We just kept

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<v Speaker 1>running into each other all weekend and kept in touch.

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<v Speaker 2>Really did you kiss him that first night?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we had a kiss and then I mean actually

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<v Speaker 1>he would tell the story in a different way, but

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, it was two in the morning. I

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<v Speaker 1>am such a homebody, like that is late for me,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I wanted to like go home, go to bed,

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<v Speaker 1>and I told him I was leaving, and he was like, okay, bye,

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, are you not going to ask

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<v Speaker 1>for my number or hello? Like it literally just danced

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<v Speaker 1>with you for like two hours and we kissed and

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like into the dark and never

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<v Speaker 1>see you again.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, did he know who you were?

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<v Speaker 1>No, he doesn't know what like any of this is.

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<v Speaker 1>He doesn't know anything about like Bravo housewife You probably

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<v Speaker 1>like that, right, Yeah, it's humbling.

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<v Speaker 2>Or there's that. Okay, go on, sorry whoa.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it's really nice and refreshing and a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of like educating him culturally on the Bravo culture and whatnot.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, had he really never seen anything in Bravo before?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he literally did not know what like anything was

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<v Speaker 1>like any housewives franchise, which like it's so crazy how

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<v Speaker 1>long have you been watching Bravo or like, are you

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<v Speaker 1>a Bravo If you are.

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<v Speaker 2>I am, okay, not of Salt Lake City, but.

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<v Speaker 1>Sorry period shade it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, not because I'm not a fan. I think reality

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<v Speaker 2>TV used to be huge for me to watch, and

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<v Speaker 2>now that my kids are getting older, I have five kids,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think since I'm getting a divorce, this is

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<v Speaker 2>when it started. Actually, since going through like getting a divorce,

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<v Speaker 2>I now have my eight year old he just turned.

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<v Speaker 2>It is always with me and he doesn't watch what

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<v Speaker 2>I want to watch. And I've become such a guilty mom,

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<v Speaker 2>being a single mom, that I let him take over

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<v Speaker 2>and I've lost all Like I'm like, what happened to

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<v Speaker 2>my I'm like a Bravo like fanatic and now I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like out of the loop and it bumps me up.

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<v Speaker 2>But I think originally in the Bravo verse, like Beverly Hills,

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<v Speaker 2>I think just because it was I knew everyone personally

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<v Speaker 2>and I grew up there, like that was fascinating in

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<v Speaker 2>the New York City. I mean, obviously I've seen Real

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<v Speaker 2>Housewives of Salt Lake City. I've seen you, but it

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't one I actively was watching. Although I bene season

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<v Speaker 2>five last night, and my eight year old was like, oh, Mom,

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I've told you, I don't want to watch

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<v Speaker 2>the Kardashians again. He doesn't know what Nope, any reality

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<v Speaker 2>show he calls the Kardashians.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean prior to my mom being

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<v Speaker 1>on Housewives, I was not very familiar with the whole

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<v Speaker 1>Bravo universe and whatnot. So, like, I believe that there

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<v Speaker 1>are people that don't understand it and know it because

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<v Speaker 1>I was once one of them. But now it's become

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<v Speaker 1>such a big part of my life for like five years,

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<v Speaker 1>so it's so crazy to think about what to like

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<v Speaker 1>reflect on what my life was like before it.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, no, absolutely what was it like to grow

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<v Speaker 2>up on TV? I mean not grow up, but you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean, I mean the last five Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I wasn't like as young as a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of the other husbands.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you feel like you had a choice.

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<v Speaker 1>Like, theoretically yes, but no, if that makes sense, it does. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>my family is so close, we are so supportive of

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<v Speaker 1>each other, and for me to not sign on to

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<v Speaker 1>do it, it would just not reflect my mom accurately

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<v Speaker 1>and authentically, like it would be impossible to capture her

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<v Speaker 1>life without capturing any of our family, you know. So also,

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<v Speaker 1>like when she started her first season of Housewives, like

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<v Speaker 1>she was going through separation with my dad and she

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<v Speaker 1>was completely alone in Perk City, and I took a

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<v Speaker 1>semester off from school to be there for her and

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<v Speaker 1>work on my brand and everything, and like it was

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<v Speaker 1>if I was going to do that, like I had

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<v Speaker 1>to film, you know what I mean. Like, but theoretically

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<v Speaker 1>I could have rejected signing on to it and whatnot,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was just such a big part of like

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<v Speaker 1>my mom's life at that point that I think it

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<v Speaker 1>would have pushed me away from her. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. It's just like I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it gave me a really great platform for my brand,

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<v Speaker 1>and like now it's a killer for that. Yeah, right

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<v Speaker 1>later like six years or six years later, seven years,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know where, like next year in New York

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<v Speaker 1>is now a show, which is crazy?

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<v Speaker 2>Right? Well that and that was entirely your choice, so right, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>exactly is there gonna be a season two?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't make those decisions, but fingers crossed,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like so much was left unset

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<v Speaker 1>and unresolved last summer. And there's a lot to answer too.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So I've done a lot of reality TV. My

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<v Speaker 2>kids were young when I had them on my show,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's different. They'll, you know, see it one day

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<v Speaker 2>and some of the older ones. I have an eighteen

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<v Speaker 2>seven year old have seen clips and have said things

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<v Speaker 2>to me like this happened with you and Dad, this

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<v Speaker 2>hapen like oh my gosh, And I'm like, and my

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<v Speaker 2>seventh year olds sometimes is like, you know, with my podcast,

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<v Speaker 2>I talk about my life all the time, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>a version of doing a reality show. And she said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, why do you have to talk about our lives.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, I'm being this is my life and

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<v Speaker 2>this is my choice and this is my journey, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about my story because we don't other people

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<v Speaker 2>give the narrative. And she's like, but you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>have to okay it. So would you recommend, like, let's

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<v Speaker 2>say there's Next Gen LA and they came to like

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<v Speaker 2>my seventeen eight year old daughter and son, would you

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<v Speaker 2>recommend they do a season?

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<v Speaker 1>It depends on what their view is on that. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>are they do they like a private life? Do they

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<v Speaker 1>are they interested in the public world, Like, have they

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<v Speaker 1>been able to maintain a private life with you know,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you being so public? What's the vibe there?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean they were born in on TV basically on reality,

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<v Speaker 2>so they don't know any different, I think, but it

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<v Speaker 2>would be interesting for them to make choices where it's

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<v Speaker 2>just all about them in doing it. Are there things

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<v Speaker 2>about the show that you are like, oh my gosh,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish like I hadn't done it.

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<v Speaker 1>Not that I wish I hadn't done it at.

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<v Speaker 2>All, because you don't believe in regrets.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I have plenty of things that I regret. I

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<v Speaker 1>live in regret, Like Next Done. New York City is

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<v Speaker 1>truly like my friends, you know what I mean. It's

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<v Speaker 1>not some show where someone's like casting these people to

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<v Speaker 1>be on TV. It's like literally documenting real friendships, so

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<v Speaker 1>that it was like so amazing for me to get

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<v Speaker 1>to just have my friendships and cameras go up whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like fun, but it's like a double edged sword

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<v Speaker 1>because these are people that I genuinely do care about

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not like super excited for them to fight

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<v Speaker 1>or have conflict and stuff. So having to navigate that

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<v Speaker 1>is like the Thorn of the Rose, which is doing

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<v Speaker 1>a TV show that's like fun with all your friends.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, understood. So let's say they Brava comes to

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<v Speaker 2>you now and is like, Okay, we want to do

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<v Speaker 2>a show now just focused on you and your relationship,

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<v Speaker 2>and it can be like Brooks hits The Marks. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you do it?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I need to know a little more.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you like the title?

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<v Speaker 1>The log line?

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<v Speaker 2>I just coined that? I don't know? You can use it?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like you sold it right there.

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<v Speaker 2>You I'm really good at titles.

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<v Speaker 1>You think exec get a producer credit.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe just like a one percent referral? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Would do you do reality TV? Again?

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<v Speaker 2>I would? Yeah, I would. My my brain before my

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<v Speaker 2>brain thinks like my father because he's he was a producer,

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<v Speaker 2>So I think in the storytelling. And it was obviously

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<v Speaker 2>all just scripted worlds until I started doing reality and

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<v Speaker 2>now my brain thinks in both so concurrently, like simultaneously,

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<v Speaker 2>I can come up with an idea and give the

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<v Speaker 2>scripted version and the unscripted version, which isn't a bad thing.

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<v Speaker 2>And so now when I come up with ideas for shows,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, well, like Bravo, you could do this one

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<v Speaker 2>on one of your other sister networks and then air

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<v Speaker 2>this like nonscriptive version on your network, and they could

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<v Speaker 2>air simultaneously. But wait, wait, wait, okay, so let's go

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<v Speaker 2>back to your show with your boyfriend.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I have been like really private about my

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<v Speaker 1>relationship life just because the way in which like who

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<v Speaker 1>I went to bed with was brought into the public

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<v Speaker 1>world was not on my own accord. So I felt

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<v Speaker 1>the need to like just protect my relationship and keep

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<v Speaker 1>a private and so it's really liberating, honestly, Like being

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<v Speaker 1>able to share my relationship with like the people who

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<v Speaker 1>have supported me over the years, and like their patience

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<v Speaker 1>with that is just so like special to me. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fact that people have been able to like respect

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<v Speaker 1>that has meant a lot to me. So you're saying, now, well, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like, yes, I'm in a place where I

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<v Speaker 1>mean caide my boyfriend. He did film for Next Gen

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<v Speaker 1>NYC and was featured in the season a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>but that was like very early stages of our relationship,

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<v Speaker 1>and we, you know, are very far down along the

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<v Speaker 1>line now. I feel like dating me is like you

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<v Speaker 1>have to date my entire family, you know. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was just getting started looking back on that.

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<v Speaker 2>Is he close with his family?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Yeah, he has like the sweetest family ever.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that his name is kid with a K,

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<v Speaker 2>I know, right, Yeah, I find that really sexy. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're an entrepreneur, Like I hate that word, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I hate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Word because everyone says that they are one.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, you shut me down? Is that no one usually

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<v Speaker 2>does that? Wow? Uh No, It's it's really hard to pronounce.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like not it doesn't flow off the tongue, it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I get.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a really tough one because everyone says they are Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>they do.

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<v Speaker 1>Literally everyone. It's like it's like before that was like

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<v Speaker 1>the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, God, everyone says it. Yeah, you're either an entrepreneur

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<v Speaker 2>or a narcissist. That's the only two words who talk about. Wait,

0:25:05.600 --> 0:25:09.160
<v Speaker 2>what the hell? What would what would it be like

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<v Speaker 2>in my generation? Nineteen ninety eight, the year before you

0:25:12.359 --> 0:25:18.000
<v Speaker 2>were born? What would it have been? Wait ninety nine

0:25:18.000 --> 0:25:18.440
<v Speaker 2>you were born?

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<v Speaker 1>Right? What was it like before social media?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, I can't remember.

0:25:23.280 --> 0:25:26.320
<v Speaker 1>Blame now it's like everyone just puts like public figure

0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:28.399
<v Speaker 1>on their Instagram bio, where like I don't like that

0:25:28.520 --> 0:25:31.119
<v Speaker 1>It's just it's too easy to just throw a label

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<v Speaker 1>on whatever you want to be, whereas like in nineteen.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't give you choices. Sometimes it's like you have

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<v Speaker 2>to pick one. Yeah, yeah, sorry I cut you off.

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<v Speaker 2>So what would the word be? Smart? Driven? Creative?

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<v Speaker 1>Uh?

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<v Speaker 2>Why am I singing in that voice?

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<v Speaker 1>WHOA? I'm literally like shitting on the term entrepreneur and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm like, I don't know how else to describe what

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<v Speaker 1>I do. I it is like fashion entrepreneurship. I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I built a brand off of a hoodie and in

0:26:02.800 --> 0:26:09.080
<v Speaker 1>a sweatsuit with a much stronger purpose. Like I guess

0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:10.600
<v Speaker 1>you could say it's a movement.

0:26:12.680 --> 0:26:15.960
<v Speaker 2>See I love that because I love double entendres, even

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 2>though that's not easy to say either. But it is

0:26:18.880 --> 0:26:21.760
<v Speaker 2>a movement because also with your wear, like your move

0:26:21.920 --> 0:26:22.480
<v Speaker 2>like it is.

0:26:25.119 --> 0:26:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is a double entendre.

0:26:27.760 --> 0:26:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Did I say it wrong? I say, and Andre? Is

0:26:29.880 --> 0:26:35.520
<v Speaker 2>it tomato Tomato nooks marks? Do you just correct me? No?

0:26:36.840 --> 0:26:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I did not major in English.

0:26:38.880 --> 0:26:42.880
<v Speaker 2>So I mean my last name is spelling. I can

0:26:42.920 --> 0:26:45.520
<v Speaker 2>spell it. I just don't know how to say it.

0:26:46.880 --> 0:26:51.480
<v Speaker 2>Can I ask you when you started your brand, what

0:26:52.040 --> 0:26:56.080
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what was the hardest thing about having a

0:26:56.119 --> 0:26:59.680
<v Speaker 2>brand that you wanted to create and going from creating

0:26:59.720 --> 0:27:00.960
<v Speaker 2>it to execution of.

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:07.560
<v Speaker 1>It, building a team to help me see the same vision. Probably,

0:27:08.240 --> 0:27:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean I think that people are not. I'll retract

0:27:13.280 --> 0:27:17.359
<v Speaker 1>that it's very easy to look at a garment of

0:27:17.400 --> 0:27:21.080
<v Speaker 1>clothing and say like this is You could even just

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:23.760
<v Speaker 1>take like a black T shirt and be like, in

0:27:23.800 --> 0:27:26.359
<v Speaker 1>my case, a hoodie with a stripe going down the

0:27:26.400 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>side and just say like, this is literally a hoodie

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:30.959
<v Speaker 1>with a stripe going down the side, like with your

0:27:31.000 --> 0:27:34.040
<v Speaker 1>name on it, Like nothing, great, whatever. What people don't

0:27:34.119 --> 0:27:39.080
<v Speaker 1>understand is the intricacies of having to measure every single

0:27:39.640 --> 0:27:44.119
<v Speaker 1>centimeter of that garment, having to go through development to

0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.919
<v Speaker 1>create the fabric that you want, the importance of the

0:27:46.960 --> 0:27:52.080
<v Speaker 1>composition of the fabric, and like the process in which

0:27:52.920 --> 0:27:57.200
<v Speaker 1>my like jackered ribbon goes on the side and all

0:27:57.280 --> 0:27:59.680
<v Speaker 1>of these things. How many samples we have to go through?

0:28:00.000 --> 0:28:00.800
<v Speaker 1>And I say we, as in.

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:02.200
<v Speaker 2>Me Jackert or Jacard.

0:28:03.359 --> 0:28:05.719
<v Speaker 1>Actually you're correcting me now I think it might be Jaccard.

0:28:06.080 --> 0:28:07.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm just having fun with you.

0:28:09.640 --> 0:28:13.800
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, like, people don't understand how many samples you

0:28:13.840 --> 0:28:16.280
<v Speaker 1>have to go through, Like the spec sheets all of

0:28:16.280 --> 0:28:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that is my responsibility at my brand and I did

0:28:18.680 --> 0:28:21.440
<v Speaker 1>not just private label something. And that's what I'm really

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:26.480
<v Speaker 1>proud of is building a brand that is a community

0:28:26.520 --> 0:28:29.600
<v Speaker 1>for people to you know, feel comfortable in their skin

0:28:29.760 --> 0:28:31.760
<v Speaker 1>and feel comfortable in their clothes with it.

0:28:32.520 --> 0:28:36.159
<v Speaker 2>I love hearing you say that because I feel like

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:40.440
<v Speaker 2>it's so true, and especially in today's world, like everything

0:28:40.560 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 2>is replicated and everything, and it goes back to like

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:51.600
<v Speaker 2>an old mentality. I guess of the pride there's a

0:28:51.640 --> 0:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>double one pondre there and on Tondra and ownership of

0:28:58.440 --> 0:29:01.480
<v Speaker 2>any product that you do or any idea that you do.

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:05.880
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't even have to be in your world, and

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.760
<v Speaker 2>that resonates I feel like, do you feel like, would

0:29:10.760 --> 0:29:14.680
<v Speaker 2>you ever do your brand as like an online like

0:29:14.720 --> 0:29:18.200
<v Speaker 2>a big what's the word I'm looking for? If would

0:29:18.200 --> 0:29:21.280
<v Speaker 2>you ever do like QBC or Home Shopping Network?

0:29:23.000 --> 0:29:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Never say never, But that is not on my short

0:29:26.560 --> 0:29:27.640
<v Speaker 1>term goal list right.

0:29:27.480 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Now, because do you feel like you work so hard

0:29:32.840 --> 0:29:36.280
<v Speaker 2>at the composition of the brand and the material and

0:29:36.840 --> 0:29:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the final product that gets put out that would you

0:29:39.840 --> 0:29:45.960
<v Speaker 2>not want to grow to put out a mass line? Look, look,

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:48.200
<v Speaker 2>this is me trying to talk to a designer and

0:29:48.240 --> 0:29:52.120
<v Speaker 2>not have the words, but you can the motion behind it.

0:29:53.000 --> 0:29:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I mean, that's just not essentially I'd say the goal

0:29:56.840 --> 0:29:58.960
<v Speaker 1>of my brand. At the end of the day, the

0:29:59.000 --> 0:30:02.880
<v Speaker 1>goal for my brand is to I'm like, very proud

0:30:02.880 --> 0:30:05.000
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that I'm a fully unisex label, which

0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:07.760
<v Speaker 1>I think is an incredibly difficult thing to do, especially

0:30:07.840 --> 0:30:10.560
<v Speaker 1>with some of the garments that I've launched, like the

0:30:10.680 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Universal Panel pant, where it's a structured pant and the

0:30:14.840 --> 0:30:19.040
<v Speaker 1>waistband obviously sits differently depending on your body. So for

0:30:19.120 --> 0:30:21.719
<v Speaker 1>someone who wants to wear the pant high waisted, it

0:30:21.760 --> 0:30:25.360
<v Speaker 1>needs to be like it needs to work for someone

0:30:25.360 --> 0:30:27.680
<v Speaker 1>who wants it low waisted and similar with like the

0:30:27.760 --> 0:30:31.080
<v Speaker 1>crotch length and everything, you know. So that was something

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:33.560
<v Speaker 1>that was really difficult to develop. But I'm really proud

0:30:33.600 --> 0:30:36.720
<v Speaker 1>of the fact that my brand is fully unisex, and

0:30:37.280 --> 0:30:39.720
<v Speaker 1>essentially the goal is to create a community that everyone

0:30:39.720 --> 0:30:41.080
<v Speaker 1>feels welcomed in.

0:30:42.080 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 2>It wouldn't be nice though, for everyone, if it could

0:30:45.760 --> 0:30:49.000
<v Speaker 2>get to that level where people didn't judge and you

0:30:49.080 --> 0:30:52.880
<v Speaker 2>could make something with such huge mass appeal while still

0:30:52.920 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 2>being able to incorporate the innovation and what it means

0:30:56.760 --> 0:31:01.440
<v Speaker 2>to you and yeah, the brand and type pretty correct.

0:31:02.680 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 1>No, correct for sure, I mean, yeah, have you, but

0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 1>you're changing.

0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:11.960
<v Speaker 2>I feel like what people think in the fashion world,

0:31:12.920 --> 0:31:14.280
<v Speaker 2>so I would love to see it get to that

0:31:14.400 --> 0:31:16.920
<v Speaker 2>where it's do you know what I'm saying.

0:31:17.200 --> 0:31:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, thank you. I appreciate that.

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:22.640
<v Speaker 2>And I know, I know I'm probably saying things that

0:31:22.760 --> 0:31:25.480
<v Speaker 2>designers are like, I never want to be on that

0:31:25.600 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 2>level and that tier, like it's you know, you want

0:31:28.520 --> 0:31:31.640
<v Speaker 2>to keep it at a top tier level. But I

0:31:31.680 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>think the world, I hope the world is changing and

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:39.920
<v Speaker 2>involving so much that you know, we could have something

0:31:39.960 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 2>that means something everywhere for everyone wanting it. I'm here's

0:31:45.160 --> 0:31:48.959
<v Speaker 2>babbling my words now. I'll go back back to Onondre No.

0:31:49.040 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I completely agree. I think that one of the like

0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:56.600
<v Speaker 1>issues in the fashion industry right now is the like

0:31:57.280 --> 0:32:01.520
<v Speaker 1>pace at which trends change and fast fast, and the

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.160
<v Speaker 1>whole like lack.

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Of do you find fast fashion insulting?

0:32:07.840 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>I think that for some people it's like all they

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:15.480
<v Speaker 1>can get to, which is a problem, like no one

0:32:15.480 --> 0:32:18.640
<v Speaker 1>should have to resort to fast fashion. But I think

0:32:18.640 --> 0:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>it is also a misconception that that is the case

0:32:21.360 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>when there are plenty of places to not have to

0:32:24.080 --> 0:32:27.719
<v Speaker 1>resort to fast fashion. But I just think promoting like

0:32:27.800 --> 0:32:31.840
<v Speaker 1>conscious consumption is the most important thing with my brand.

0:32:31.840 --> 0:32:34.360
<v Speaker 1>I try to create items that are meant to be

0:32:34.400 --> 0:32:37.320
<v Speaker 1>in your closet for decades and not something that's going

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.440
<v Speaker 1>to go out of trend. So like me, you're meant

0:32:41.520 --> 0:32:43.200
<v Speaker 1>to be in the closet for a decade.

0:32:44.920 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, never go out of trend.

0:32:53.880 --> 0:32:56.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh oh oh yeah period.

0:32:56.840 --> 0:33:00.760
<v Speaker 2>No, I mean, yeah, you can have me in your

0:33:00.760 --> 0:33:03.120
<v Speaker 2>closet for decades. I'm saying, you can just keep using me,

0:33:03.200 --> 0:33:05.680
<v Speaker 2>and it's like and taking me out and people aren't like, oh,

0:33:05.760 --> 0:33:12.200
<v Speaker 2>that's out of style, that's I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm like vintage.

0:33:13.040 --> 0:33:19.280
<v Speaker 1>There's something I don't know, but yeah, I mean that's

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:21.920
<v Speaker 1>sort of at the end of it. What I think

0:33:22.040 --> 0:33:25.360
<v Speaker 1>is important with promoting conscious consumption is just like creating

0:33:25.440 --> 0:33:28.840
<v Speaker 1>staples for people to have in their wardrobe. I agree,

0:33:29.680 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>and also like the composition and whatnot, because there are

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>certain materials that are like more damaging to the environment

0:33:36.760 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>than others.

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:40.800
<v Speaker 2>It makes me sad for my teens because I feel

0:33:40.840 --> 0:33:46.120
<v Speaker 2>like they don't understand that, and you know, with their friends,

0:33:46.160 --> 0:33:50.520
<v Speaker 2>they're on a budget. And they don't understand what it

0:33:50.560 --> 0:33:53.760
<v Speaker 2>truly means. You know, I think in their brains. It's

0:33:53.920 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 2>the young ones, like my twelve and thirty year old

0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:58.680
<v Speaker 2>their brains it's just like, oh, we got it, it

0:33:58.800 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>was cheap. Oh, it just didn't last long, or it

0:34:02.400 --> 0:34:04.920
<v Speaker 2>just wasn't made great fill a part after one wearing,

0:34:05.120 --> 0:34:07.320
<v Speaker 2>and it's just there's so much involved in the way

0:34:07.320 --> 0:34:10.960
<v Speaker 2>it was made that they're not conscious of. No pun intended,

0:34:11.080 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean.

0:34:12.360 --> 0:34:15.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean completely like nail on the head. Also,

0:34:15.719 --> 0:34:18.359
<v Speaker 1>the ethics behind the manufacturing of it is a huge

0:34:18.400 --> 0:34:22.560
<v Speaker 1>thick concern. But yeah, that's something that I've always worked

0:34:22.600 --> 0:34:24.239
<v Speaker 1>on with my brand that I've been super proud of.

0:34:24.640 --> 0:34:27.120
<v Speaker 1>So you could say that it's a hoodie with my

0:34:27.200 --> 0:34:29.959
<v Speaker 1>name on it, but it's a lot more than that,

0:34:30.200 --> 0:34:32.160
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. There's a reason that I

0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 1>put my name on that hoodie.

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:37.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I love that. And you have a really good name.

0:34:39.360 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Thank you. You have such a good name.

0:34:42.800 --> 0:34:47.480
<v Speaker 1>Like it's not fair, thank you? I mean, so do you?

0:34:47.480 --> 0:34:53.640
<v Speaker 1>You literally cannot make that name up. Hell, you're a verb.

0:34:54.040 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>You're a walking verb.

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, Oh can I snag that one?

0:34:59.000 --> 0:35:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm a walking verb.

0:35:04.920 --> 0:35:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, I love that. Okay, I'm going to

0:35:08.080 --> 0:35:11.440
<v Speaker 2>talk for one second my Real Housewives Salt Lake City.

0:35:11.560 --> 0:35:13.239
<v Speaker 2>And I only just rolled my eyes because I feel

0:35:13.239 --> 0:35:16.880
<v Speaker 2>like I feel embarrassed. I feel like everybody asks you no, no, no.

0:35:16.920 --> 0:35:20.400
<v Speaker 2>This is literally the only reason. Like I obviously I

0:35:20.400 --> 0:35:22.799
<v Speaker 2>want to ask you questions because it's relevant, but like

0:35:23.280 --> 0:35:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I feel like everybody asks you the same thing.

0:35:25.000 --> 0:35:30.560
<v Speaker 1>So no, I no ask whatever you want. I'm like

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:32.280
<v Speaker 1>just fingers crossed. It don't get in trouble.

0:35:34.400 --> 0:35:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Fingers crossed. We do get in trouble. Have you met me? No?

0:35:38.719 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah you did today. But okay, So there's rumors that

0:35:42.280 --> 0:35:44.040
<v Speaker 2>Genshaw is coming back to the show.

0:35:46.160 --> 0:35:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I don't know anything about her right now.

0:35:51.080 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 2>I don't either tell me.

0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:55.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, if I knew, i'd be able to share it,

0:35:55.920 --> 0:35:59.520
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know anything about her other than you

0:35:59.560 --> 0:36:01.960
<v Speaker 1>know is in the public right now.

0:36:03.560 --> 0:36:06.440
<v Speaker 2>Fair your mom's a DJ. I did not know this.

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:10.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's a really talented DJ.

0:36:10.960 --> 0:36:14.880
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. Mm hmm, that's like on my bucket list.

0:36:16.000 --> 0:36:21.520
<v Speaker 1>She's awesome. Yeah, you're based in Yeah, so next time

0:36:21.640 --> 0:36:26.720
<v Speaker 1>she actually DJ'ed at out Loud and who really? Next

0:36:26.760 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>time she hopefully, Like if there's if that is a

0:36:29.800 --> 0:36:31.760
<v Speaker 1>thing next year, you'll have to come.

0:36:32.480 --> 0:36:38.120
<v Speaker 2>I would love to. Oh my gosh, I even when

0:36:38.160 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 2>I watch her, I feel like she and I were

0:36:39.680 --> 0:36:53.960
<v Speaker 2>be friends. Absolutely, he said, Cavier, you.

0:36:49.400 --> 0:36:52.239
<v Speaker 1>You guys probably crossed paths. My mom grew up going

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>to we must have got out of or my grandpa

0:36:56.080 --> 0:36:58.839
<v Speaker 1>had a place in Beverly Hills, Like, oh, we're going

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:00.560
<v Speaker 1>there all the time. And then nineties.

0:37:01.520 --> 0:37:03.600
<v Speaker 2>What you were alive in the nineties.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:06.799
<v Speaker 1>No, yeah, it was before I was alive, unfortunately, because

0:37:06.800 --> 0:37:08.399
<v Speaker 1>I would have loved to spend time there too.

0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:11.919
<v Speaker 2>Oh you were saying your mom. Okay, okay, so I'm

0:37:11.960 --> 0:37:16.839
<v Speaker 2>catching up. Wait, wait where who had a place in La?

0:37:17.120 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 2>Your grandpa?

0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:19.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my grandpa.

0:37:20.000 --> 0:37:20.920
<v Speaker 2>Where do you know where?

0:37:21.640 --> 0:37:26.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like Beverly Hills, like behind the Beverly Hills Hotel

0:37:26.760 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>in the Hills part.

0:37:29.120 --> 0:37:36.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, ooh I wonder where? And so your mom Okay,

0:37:36.719 --> 0:37:38.000
<v Speaker 2>so we've probably totally met.

0:37:38.440 --> 0:37:41.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you guys have probably cross spots. I mean, like

0:37:41.640 --> 0:37:44.920
<v Speaker 1>La is so small, lowl one Beverly Hills, like you.

0:37:44.880 --> 0:37:48.160
<v Speaker 2>Know it really truly is. No one believes that, but

0:37:48.239 --> 0:38:00.279
<v Speaker 2>it's like, yeah, do you feel like you have a

0:38:00.320 --> 0:38:03.240
<v Speaker 2>lot of responsibility now that you're so in the public

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:07.920
<v Speaker 2>eye to not that you're not. I find you very authentic,

0:38:08.280 --> 0:38:09.920
<v Speaker 2>But do you feel like you have to choose your

0:38:09.920 --> 0:38:10.800
<v Speaker 2>words carefully?

0:38:11.640 --> 0:38:15.319
<v Speaker 1>You're like, yeah, I mean literally just then like going

0:38:15.320 --> 0:38:18.680
<v Speaker 1>through my brain, yes, I do. I just I mean,

0:38:20.080 --> 0:38:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like having a platform is a blessing, and I just

0:38:22.800 --> 0:38:24.360
<v Speaker 1>want to make sure that I'm always like using it

0:38:24.360 --> 0:38:28.799
<v Speaker 1>in the best way possible. I never want to like listen, right, well.

0:38:28.719 --> 0:38:33.640
<v Speaker 2>Your narrative is your narrative, and and that's in obviously

0:38:33.960 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 2>you Yeah, did you figure that out after the first

0:38:37.200 --> 0:38:39.719
<v Speaker 2>season you were on a Real Housewives of Salt Lake

0:38:39.760 --> 0:38:42.000
<v Speaker 2>City that You're like, I can't control the editing. I

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:43.960
<v Speaker 2>can't control what they use and how it's taking out

0:38:43.960 --> 0:38:47.520
<v Speaker 2>of context once it goes social or viral, and then

0:38:47.560 --> 0:38:51.200
<v Speaker 2>had to kind of rein it in. Yeah.

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:55.280
<v Speaker 1>No, I mean no, I would say that, like the capacity.

0:38:55.480 --> 0:38:58.440
<v Speaker 1>What was so great about Next in New York was

0:38:58.760 --> 0:39:01.120
<v Speaker 1>that our next graen wise, I love to call it

0:39:01.120 --> 0:39:01.919
<v Speaker 1>Next to New York.

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:05.000
<v Speaker 2>I know You've said it so many times, and I'm like,

0:39:05.760 --> 0:39:08.000
<v Speaker 2>and in my brain every time, I'm like, I just

0:39:08.040 --> 0:39:11.719
<v Speaker 2>love your voice. I think you're like have. Your articulation

0:39:11.880 --> 0:39:15.319
<v Speaker 2>is so great. You would be great in voiceovers. By

0:39:15.320 --> 0:39:18.520
<v Speaker 2>the way, your articulation, I am envious because I like

0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.960
<v Speaker 2>meld all my words together. Okay, sorry, but I love

0:39:23.000 --> 0:39:26.080
<v Speaker 2>how you call it. Yeah, you've said New York City

0:39:26.160 --> 0:39:29.360
<v Speaker 2>every time instead of NYC, which is rad.

0:39:29.600 --> 0:39:35.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, next gen NYC is. It was like an opportunity

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.040
<v Speaker 1>to actually get to show my personality and whatnot. I

0:39:38.080 --> 0:39:40.120
<v Speaker 1>feel like the capacity in which I was shown on

0:39:40.200 --> 0:39:42.520
<v Speaker 1>Salt Lake City is like ten minutes over the span

0:39:42.560 --> 0:39:46.080
<v Speaker 1>of seasons, so it's like people don't really get to

0:39:46.120 --> 0:39:48.480
<v Speaker 1>know me. It's not a show about housewives kids to

0:39:48.480 --> 0:39:55.400
<v Speaker 1>show about housewives obviously, so I think it's like seeing

0:39:55.440 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 1>me in such a limited capacity, people make so many

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.600
<v Speaker 1>assumptions and whatnot, and that was something that had a

0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:05.600
<v Speaker 1>really hard time handling. But over my years, like in

0:40:05.640 --> 0:40:08.040
<v Speaker 1>the public space, I feel like I'm finally at a

0:40:08.120 --> 0:40:11.400
<v Speaker 1>point like now more than ever where it's just like

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:15.400
<v Speaker 1>as long as you're living or truth and saying facts like,

0:40:16.200 --> 0:40:18.120
<v Speaker 1>you can do no wrong, you know what I mean?

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:23.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you'd be great in court.

0:40:24.960 --> 0:40:26.759
<v Speaker 1>Did you have to acclimate to it or were you

0:40:26.840 --> 0:40:29.800
<v Speaker 1>sort of like always in the public since you were born.

0:40:30.520 --> 0:40:34.719
<v Speaker 2>I was literally born into it. But it's not like

0:40:34.760 --> 0:40:37.799
<v Speaker 2>I was ever. There was no like when I was

0:40:37.960 --> 0:40:40.120
<v Speaker 2>a kid, like social media training or like you know,

0:40:40.320 --> 0:40:43.480
<v Speaker 2>like act like this. I don't think. I think I

0:40:43.560 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 2>just realized quickly I was the daughter of someone who

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.719
<v Speaker 2>was famous and I was a representation of him. But

0:40:50.760 --> 0:40:53.000
<v Speaker 2>my mom and dad never said to me, like, make

0:40:53.000 --> 0:40:56.359
<v Speaker 2>sure you act you know, polited in public and act this,

0:40:56.520 --> 0:40:59.040
<v Speaker 2>you know, a certain way because you're representing the family.

0:41:00.160 --> 0:41:02.960
<v Speaker 2>And then when I was on nine oh two and

0:41:03.000 --> 0:41:06.799
<v Speaker 2>oh yeah, I just I learned quickly. Like I look

0:41:06.880 --> 0:41:10.560
<v Speaker 2>back at interviews I gave when I was in my

0:41:10.760 --> 0:41:13.120
<v Speaker 2>late teens early twenties, and I'm like, that is so

0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:16.080
<v Speaker 2>not me, Like I was so not guarded. But I

0:41:16.160 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 2>just wanted to make sure I said the right thing

0:41:18.800 --> 0:41:22.000
<v Speaker 2>of what I thought people wanted to see me as,

0:41:22.080 --> 0:41:24.760
<v Speaker 2>because keep in mind, back then there wasn't social media,

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:28.120
<v Speaker 2>so what you saw in limited interviews on talk shows

0:41:28.120 --> 0:41:31.920
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, that was it. And it wasn't until I

0:41:32.000 --> 0:41:34.960
<v Speaker 2>was able to like just speak my authentic self that

0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:38.200
<v Speaker 2>people are like, oh, we're not labeling her as this,

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.640
<v Speaker 2>this or this anymore because she has a voice. So

0:41:41.719 --> 0:41:45.000
<v Speaker 2>I probably I think I go too far now, but

0:41:45.160 --> 0:41:48.760
<v Speaker 2>it's been very liberating for me to have a voice

0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and not just be seen as a certain thing, whether

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.480
<v Speaker 2>it was I know, you know what I'm talking about.

0:41:54.560 --> 0:41:58.839
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, No, I completely agree. I mean, like it's one

0:41:58.840 --> 0:42:02.520
<v Speaker 1>thing to speak truth and like, as long as you're

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:06.319
<v Speaker 1>being honest whatever, But like, no, that's something that I've

0:42:06.400 --> 0:42:08.040
<v Speaker 1>run into with next Gen and I see it's like,

0:42:08.040 --> 0:42:09.799
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you could take that argument and apply to

0:42:09.800 --> 0:42:13.120
<v Speaker 1>people who have come into fire on the show and

0:42:13.160 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 1>whatnot for things that they've said. But it's like, as

0:42:15.960 --> 0:42:18.000
<v Speaker 1>long as you are making an effort to be a

0:42:18.000 --> 0:42:23.359
<v Speaker 1>good person, like that's different than saying things because you're like, oh,

0:42:23.400 --> 0:42:26.879
<v Speaker 1>like I'm being completely honest and real. It's like, I'm

0:42:27.120 --> 0:42:29.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna be completely honest and real, but I'm never going

0:42:29.600 --> 0:42:31.239
<v Speaker 1>to intentionally try to hurt someone, and if I do,

0:42:31.280 --> 0:42:33.320
<v Speaker 1>I'll take accountability and apologize for it, you know what

0:42:33.360 --> 0:42:36.839
<v Speaker 1>I mean. Whereas yeah, some people won't and they don't

0:42:36.880 --> 0:42:39.359
<v Speaker 1>care if they hurt someone and they're just like that's

0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:40.200
<v Speaker 1>how I feel whatever.

0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:44.160
<v Speaker 2>So are you for inter a specific person?

0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, yeah, I really was disappointed by how Charlie treated

0:42:51.400 --> 0:42:57.560
<v Speaker 1>Riley throughout the season. I don't think it is such

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:01.200
<v Speaker 1>a thing to ask someone to hear you out and

0:43:01.239 --> 0:43:03.160
<v Speaker 1>not treat them a type of way. It takes a

0:43:03.160 --> 0:43:07.359
<v Speaker 1>lot of courage to communicate what she did, and I

0:43:07.400 --> 0:43:09.360
<v Speaker 1>just think the way that he treated her was very unfair.

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:12.839
<v Speaker 2>If there's a second season and I'm going to call

0:43:12.880 --> 0:43:16.640
<v Speaker 2>it how you said next gen New York City, would

0:43:16.680 --> 0:43:20.360
<v Speaker 2>you talk about that on it, like go further with

0:43:20.440 --> 0:43:23.200
<v Speaker 2>that notion? Would you work with Rey?

0:43:23.520 --> 0:43:27.799
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean all of them, sorry, Charlie. How

0:43:28.080 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>like Riley feels you know, sorry, yeah, feels resolve with everything,

0:43:33.200 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I'm just there to support her. But there's obviously

0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.120
<v Speaker 1>so much footage that is cut down and no one

0:43:42.360 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>can see everything. It would be literally one million episode

0:43:46.000 --> 0:43:49.759
<v Speaker 1>season in order to say so, Like I've I definitely

0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:53.640
<v Speaker 1>stuck up for Riley a lot throughout filming, It's just

0:43:53.680 --> 0:43:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like these episodes are cut down very short, on and

0:43:57.960 --> 0:44:00.840
<v Speaker 1>off camera. Then I've had conversations with Charlie about that,

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:03.840
<v Speaker 1>and he knows to this day that I'm extremely disappointed

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:05.920
<v Speaker 1>and don't support the way and when she handled that situation.

0:44:06.800 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>I wish on shows that like archival footage that the

0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:14.800
<v Speaker 2>castmates wanted to come back. Not the networks could we

0:44:14.880 --> 0:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>see that this because it is true. I mean the

0:44:18.000 --> 0:44:20.200
<v Speaker 2>cameras are rolling like twenty four seven, not twenty four seven,

0:44:20.200 --> 0:44:22.920
<v Speaker 2>But you know what I mean, it's they're never going

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:27.160
<v Speaker 2>to be able to see and it's obviously it is

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 2>edited in a way, and all shows do this, you know,

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:35.000
<v Speaker 2>so the viewers watch. But it's a it's a I've

0:44:35.040 --> 0:44:37.120
<v Speaker 2>been in these situations and so it's a tough situation

0:44:37.200 --> 0:44:40.120
<v Speaker 2>that you're in, and I think you handle it beautifully.

0:44:40.880 --> 0:44:41.239
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:44:42.200 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I'd like to talk to you one

0:44:44.160 --> 0:44:45.880
<v Speaker 2>day when we don't have a camera on us or

0:44:46.040 --> 0:44:46.680
<v Speaker 2>a podcast.

0:44:46.760 --> 0:44:51.040
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, I'm vibing, and like, next time I'm in La,

0:44:51.200 --> 0:44:56.680
<v Speaker 1>let's hang out, definitely, But the next time you're in

0:44:56.680 --> 0:45:04.040
<v Speaker 1>New York. But yeah, I don't know. I mean, I

0:45:04.080 --> 0:45:05.480
<v Speaker 1>don't even know what we're just talking about.

0:45:05.880 --> 0:45:07.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't know either. I was wondering how I like

0:45:09.000 --> 0:45:11.200
<v Speaker 2>not look like a fool and ask you for a

0:45:11.200 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 2>piece of your Brooksmarks clothingline. I need a tra sit

0:45:15.320 --> 0:45:20.319
<v Speaker 2>what I can get you that? No, I'll pay for it.

0:45:20.320 --> 0:45:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll pay for I want to support you.

0:45:22.400 --> 0:45:25.600
<v Speaker 1>That's very sweet, But this has been so kind of

0:45:25.640 --> 0:45:27.879
<v Speaker 1>you to have me on your podcast, and like, it's

0:45:27.920 --> 0:45:29.279
<v Speaker 1>the least I can do to say thank you.

0:45:29.920 --> 0:45:36.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh my gosh, okay, perfect, I'll accept them. You're really wait,

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:36.800
<v Speaker 2>you're funny.

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:38.279
<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

0:45:38.360 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>And I know you were funny before.

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.759
<v Speaker 1>Sorry, you learned something new every day.

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 2>I didn't.

0:45:44.840 --> 0:45:47.319
<v Speaker 1>But I also have a new resort collection coming out

0:45:47.320 --> 0:45:49.640
<v Speaker 1>that I'm super excited about. I was just saying that

0:45:49.680 --> 0:45:53.640
<v Speaker 1>because if you would prefer the OG track suit or.

0:45:54.080 --> 0:45:56.200
<v Speaker 2>Oh this was a personal thing. Sorry, oh my god,

0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:58.360
<v Speaker 2>you'd be nice to me. Sorry, And I don't know

0:45:58.400 --> 0:45:59.840
<v Speaker 2>how to accept it when people are nice to me.

0:46:01.800 --> 0:46:03.960
<v Speaker 1>Wait literally saying someone gives me a compliment, I'm like,

0:46:04.160 --> 0:46:05.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't take it.

0:46:05.480 --> 0:46:09.440
<v Speaker 2>No, oh my gosh, okay, wait wait, what are my choices?

0:46:09.480 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 2>I'm bow with choices too. I really do want to

0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:13.480
<v Speaker 2>truck suit.

0:46:14.040 --> 0:46:17.200
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to email it to or DM like literally whatever.

0:46:17.600 --> 0:46:20.439
<v Speaker 2>I love DM. You know I do it all the time,

0:46:20.760 --> 0:46:23.120
<v Speaker 2>talk to like people. I never would a millionaires think

0:46:23.120 --> 0:46:24.239
<v Speaker 2>you would like talk to It's like.

0:46:24.239 --> 0:46:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Crazy, are you like a reach out on DM? Person? Like? Yes,

0:46:28.160 --> 0:46:29.680
<v Speaker 1>Like who do you reach out to? And what are

0:46:29.719 --> 0:46:32.839
<v Speaker 1>you saying? Like someone who you watch on a show

0:46:33.000 --> 0:46:36.160
<v Speaker 1>or like someone who's posts you like or you're like,

0:46:36.239 --> 0:46:37.000
<v Speaker 1>what's the vibe?

0:46:37.320 --> 0:46:40.239
<v Speaker 2>Okay, So my kids and I play this game well

0:46:40.520 --> 0:46:43.120
<v Speaker 2>where they'll be like, oh yeah, I'm into this person

0:46:43.239 --> 0:46:46.000
<v Speaker 2>and this person and I was like, oh, I'll DM

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:50.520
<v Speaker 2>them and we see who responds. So the coolest one

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:55.640
<v Speaker 2>that my kids bought is Ken Carson.

0:46:57.280 --> 0:46:59.120
<v Speaker 1>That I'm familiar do you know?

0:46:59.280 --> 0:47:02.480
<v Speaker 2>Okay? And they're like, oh, Ken Carson, He's never going

0:47:02.520 --> 0:47:07.640
<v Speaker 2>to reply, he's huge. So I dmned him and he replied.

0:47:08.160 --> 0:47:12.640
<v Speaker 2>So I'm like in bed one night and I like

0:47:12.680 --> 0:47:14.879
<v Speaker 2>go to check my DMS and I was like, oh shit,

0:47:15.120 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 2>Ken Carson responded, the kids are already asleep, but like

0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.120
<v Speaker 2>my like twelve and thirteen year old are going to

0:47:20.200 --> 0:47:23.000
<v Speaker 2>freak out. And my seventeen year old I had written

0:47:23.040 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 2>and I was like hi, I was like, we adore you,

0:47:27.840 --> 0:47:30.640
<v Speaker 2>and he wrote back it was just a booty call.

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:35.680
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, what what this is going on

0:47:36.920 --> 0:47:38.200
<v Speaker 1>with his fan base?

0:47:38.600 --> 0:47:41.719
<v Speaker 2>So I'm thinking I'm not cool? Is it that? Or

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:44.880
<v Speaker 2>is he thinking? So I had text him at nighttime.

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.600
<v Speaker 2>I was like, oh my god, is he thinking? Tory

0:47:46.719 --> 0:47:49.879
<v Speaker 2>spelling like oh shit, she slid into my DMS and

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.680
<v Speaker 2>she and she's want like a booty call. So I

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.239
<v Speaker 2>was like freaking out, like I don't even have to

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.080
<v Speaker 2>tell my kids. And then all of a sudden, I

0:47:58.120 --> 0:48:02.480
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, I connected it and confirmed

0:48:02.480 --> 0:48:04.560
<v Speaker 2>with my kids. I was in a movie called Scary

0:48:04.600 --> 0:48:07.880
<v Speaker 2>Movie Too and the I have sex with a ghost.

0:48:08.920 --> 0:48:11.920
<v Speaker 2>I was, Oh, that's your age group. So you went

0:48:11.960 --> 0:48:13.920
<v Speaker 2>to nine in too and I Scary Movie Too. I

0:48:13.960 --> 0:48:15.920
<v Speaker 2>had brown hair. I was the girl the fuck the ghosts.

0:48:16.719 --> 0:48:17.439
<v Speaker 1>That's icon.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I was the girl that had sex with a ghost.

0:48:20.280 --> 0:48:24.080
<v Speaker 2>So anyway the line was from the ghost is it

0:48:24.120 --> 0:48:27.680
<v Speaker 2>was just a booty call. Shut the fuck. Yeah. So

0:48:27.800 --> 0:48:30.839
<v Speaker 2>I was like a hero for my kids. The Ken

0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:33.279
<v Speaker 2>Carson responded to me and even knew They were like, Mom,

0:48:33.320 --> 0:48:35.640
<v Speaker 2>we won't even know who you are. And then he

0:48:35.920 --> 0:48:40.200
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh my god, it's tory spelling iconic Scary

0:48:40.200 --> 0:48:43.280
<v Speaker 2>movie Too. So when I finally got it, I was like, lol,

0:48:43.719 --> 0:48:46.759
<v Speaker 2>here for it, like as a joke, wink. And then

0:48:46.800 --> 0:48:49.920
<v Speaker 2>he wrote love yea, and I was like, oh my god.

0:48:50.120 --> 0:48:52.080
<v Speaker 2>And then my line that I created the movie is

0:48:52.120 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 2>Kinky's Kinky's my mental name, bitch, So yeah, I wrote

0:48:55.719 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 2>that back to him.

0:48:58.480 --> 0:49:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Wait, that's amazing. That's actually incredible.

0:49:02.920 --> 0:49:04.319
<v Speaker 2>See you thought I wasn't gonna have a good one.

0:49:04.320 --> 0:49:05.120
<v Speaker 2>That was a good one. Right.

0:49:05.320 --> 0:49:07.719
<v Speaker 1>No, that's insane because it's not.

0:49:07.719 --> 0:49:09.839
<v Speaker 2>About Ken Carson. It's about like the story.

0:49:09.560 --> 0:49:13.759
<v Speaker 1>Right, Yeah. I mean does that happen to you a

0:49:13.840 --> 0:49:16.080
<v Speaker 1>lot where people will just like say lines to you

0:49:16.200 --> 0:49:19.680
<v Speaker 1>from your films and whatnot. Yeah, I find that to

0:49:19.760 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 1>be such a funny thing that people just like come

0:49:23.760 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>up to people and like scream a line at them. Like,

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like, I find it hysterical.

0:49:29.480 --> 0:49:33.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I mean in the show you don't know

0:49:33.560 --> 0:49:36.879
<v Speaker 2>about called Beverly Hills, which you wouldn't because you're young.

0:49:37.280 --> 0:49:38.759
<v Speaker 1>Well, I actually watched it, I know, two and O,

0:49:38.880 --> 0:49:43.480
<v Speaker 1>but I think the remake, the c W version, Like, wait,

0:49:43.600 --> 0:49:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Beverly Hills, is that scripted?

0:49:46.560 --> 0:49:46.880
<v Speaker 2>Yes?

0:49:47.600 --> 0:49:50.920
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so what was the reality show then? Oh?

0:49:51.520 --> 0:49:55.640
<v Speaker 2>Of me? Yeah, how much time do you have? There's

0:49:55.680 --> 0:49:58.560
<v Speaker 2>been a lot of incarnations. Okay, No, I'm just kidding. Tori.

0:49:58.680 --> 0:50:00.759
<v Speaker 2>My husband, my ex husband's name is Dean, So it

0:50:00.800 --> 0:50:03.880
<v Speaker 2>was Torri and Dean Home Sweet Hollywood, and then we

0:50:03.920 --> 0:50:09.600
<v Speaker 2>had other shows. It was True Tory and then yeah,

0:50:10.200 --> 0:50:14.400
<v Speaker 2>very nope, period True toy period. But on Yeah, it

0:50:14.480 --> 0:50:17.680
<v Speaker 2>was a scripture show of teens in Beverly Hills in

0:50:17.719 --> 0:50:21.240
<v Speaker 2>the nineties and I played a character called Donna Martin

0:50:21.560 --> 0:50:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and she got drunk at prom. They weren't gonna let

0:50:23.960 --> 0:50:26.800
<v Speaker 2>her graduate. All the kids had did a walk out

0:50:27.120 --> 0:50:29.920
<v Speaker 2>to support her chance at Donna Martin graduates, which she

0:50:30.000 --> 0:50:33.600
<v Speaker 2>became famous. And now that's what people say to me, like,

0:50:33.600 --> 0:50:35.279
<v Speaker 2>Donna Martin graduates.

0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:39.360
<v Speaker 1>That's so funny. I'm going to need to watch that series.

0:50:39.480 --> 0:50:40.960
<v Speaker 1>That's going to be my next show.

0:50:42.640 --> 0:50:45.200
<v Speaker 2>Mmm, it's a little dated, it's still hold.

0:50:45.080 --> 0:50:50.640
<v Speaker 1>Up, really, I mean it was remade. That clearly means

0:50:50.680 --> 0:50:54.400
<v Speaker 1>that it was a monumental like series.

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's monumental, it's historical.