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Speaker 1: Seriously, let's get serious because we have an extremely elegant
Speaker 1: topic today.
Speaker 2: I know it's actually I'm like, oh, we started off
Speaker 2: so rawling elegance and we're talking about butter today. Oh
Speaker 2: and we're talking about oh, I don't know, crisp white
Speaker 2: wine from the Piedmont region.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or even can I say it's hilarious, so wrong
Speaker 1: to have I don't know the crispus have ever happened.
Speaker 2: I don't know what about. I don't know what insanely
Speaker 2: crisp peanut grease at lunch at one pm with your
Speaker 2: older son.
Speaker 1: Who made me a beautiful Welsh rampit because he's really
Speaker 1: coming into his own as a chef, were talking about.
Speaker 2: We're talking about none other than the hottest man to
Speaker 2: all moms in the entire world.
Speaker 1: That is so true, mom bait.
Speaker 2: Literally, mom bait, we were talking about one of the
Speaker 2: yummiest Italian Americans in history.
Speaker 1: One of the original metrosexuals.
Speaker 2: Literally, No, he's like the last, the original and the last.
Speaker 2: And we're going to get into that, someone who is
Speaker 2: famous for acting but is now known for.
Speaker 1: Food and his guns. Ladies, because he do be working
Speaker 1: out quite often, often with his yoga.
Speaker 2: Instruct Okay, shake, shake, shake your groove thing, that's a
Speaker 2: negroni I'm talking about. We are talking about none other than.
Speaker 1: Stanley touch and his brand new book What I Ate
Speaker 1: In One.
Speaker 2: Year and related thoughts. H This whole book is so
Speaker 2: like yummy, and it's like jazz. It's like soft jazz,
Speaker 2: rainy London afternoon with a good glass of wine.
Speaker 1: This book is full up jazz. And it was so
Speaker 1: perfect that I was reading on the plane from Nantucket
Speaker 1: to La Guardia, having just had a week of being
Speaker 1: like mm so like rich, but also like cozy and
Speaker 1: gloomy because it was like shoulder season late September Nantucket.
Speaker 1: I was there. Yeah, I'll spill the beans.
Speaker 2: Saw your personal life on this personal trip, but it
Speaker 2: was personal yet for your wife's business, yes, which is
Speaker 2: so Stanley. So he's always being so like well off
Speaker 2: to the Dingly Literary Festival with Felicity. God, she has
Speaker 2: so many launches. Okay, So you were having like a gluey.
Speaker 1: And as we do this, I'm gonna make us a
Speaker 1: very Stanley Tucci beverage by just what they had on
Speaker 1: the iHeart fridge, because sometimes you just have to go with.
Speaker 2: It's available, just what's available.
Speaker 1: Some kind of improvised spaghettes, which is a little stella
Speaker 1: with a splash.
Speaker 2: Of apaol, which you a true spaghett is Miller high
Speaker 2: life an apaol.
Speaker 1: Okay, but he do want one, You're going to try it.
Speaker 2: We love to peer pressure on this pod, and I
Speaker 2: think Estella will work because you know, I think the
Speaker 2: whole point of like the spaghetti is this high low,
Speaker 2: like really watery beer, and Estella is you know, like
Speaker 2: the most plain airport lounge delta beer.
Speaker 1: So it's like it's a pale European lagger.
Speaker 2: And Stanley Tucci is having to do a collab in
Speaker 2: like skinny for it.
Speaker 1: No one is more airport lounge than too cheap. What
Speaker 1: I've realized reading this book is that he really is
Speaker 1: so comfortable in like a pretty new hotel. Yeah, where
Speaker 1: they have like the backlit bar and the high top
Speaker 1: like blonde wood tables.
Speaker 2: Blondewood tables but like deep orange hues.
Speaker 1: Yes, or she was on like deep steel window like fenestration.
Speaker 2: Oh wait, while you make these, I'm just gonna read
Speaker 2: this passage just to kind of put us in place
Speaker 2: with this book of him checking into a hotel. Here's
Speaker 2: your set, Okay, thank you, darling, Cheers beautiful after Annenna's
Speaker 2: arrived from JFK to Manhattan. We checked into the Whitby Hotel,
Speaker 2: which is part of the Firmdale Group. I love staying
Speaker 2: in their hotels because there's a consistency of eccentric, cozy design.
Speaker 2: They are spotlessly clean and beautifully appointed, and the staff
Speaker 2: is kind. I first stayed and won the Covenant Garden
Speaker 2: Hotel in London over twenty years ago with Kate while
Speaker 2: promoting Big Night. We had the loveliest time together at
Speaker 2: that trip, and it was the first time I'd ever
Speaker 2: seen an Honesty bar, which is a stable in all
Speaker 2: Firmdale hotels. Another property of theirs, the Charlotte Street Hotel,
Speaker 2: is where I stayed while filming Captain American, where Flissy
Speaker 2: and I first spent time together.
Speaker 1: As they say, this is so crazy because when the
Speaker 1: Firmdale Hotel group first comes up, like earlier in the book,
Speaker 1: when you stayed at the Crosby Hotel, which is a
Speaker 1: Firmdale property and so and he just goes more on
Speaker 1: that later, and I'm like, more on the Firmdale Group later.
Speaker 2: I was like, girl, what more on that later?
Speaker 1: And lo and behold, there was much more to say
Speaker 1: about their incredible properties.
Speaker 2: Because a lot of times when like a book will
Speaker 2: be so like and we'll get to that later in
Speaker 2: the Luanaway, they don't get to it. But he was
Speaker 2: so being like, no, I must finish my thoughts on
Speaker 2: the firmiler.
Speaker 1: He's a hospitality pilled mama.
Speaker 2: So I guess this book is also even though it's
Speaker 2: all about like cod and butter, it is also like
Speaker 2: a meditation on aging, his wife, dying, his new wife,
Speaker 2: his own mortality with his new wife, Emily Blunt's sister,
Speaker 2: Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 1: Such a funny name, Felicity Blunt.
Speaker 2: Hello, I'm fit and she is a literary agent.
Speaker 1: It's just the most literary agent thing that could possibly be.
Speaker 2: It's such a movie, like a British John spin off,
Speaker 2: being like, oh meet my agent, Felicity Blunt. She'll be
Speaker 2: taking you to dinner.
Speaker 1: Okay, So let me ask you something before we even
Speaker 1: get into all the journal entries. And this really quite
Speaker 1: lovely book, lovely book. So his wife died of cancer, Kate,
Speaker 1: his wife of fifteen years, has two kids with her.
Speaker 1: She dies in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: And you know the whole backstory also with their marriage,
Speaker 2: which was he did a play with Edie Falco. They
Speaker 2: had an affair, he left his wife Kate.
Speaker 1: And just you know, Stanley, if you're listening, this is
Speaker 1: a literary criticism pot and we will be talking about
Speaker 1: the chart. There's just a little bit of Delbert, but
Speaker 1: of course we're mostly talking about food and literature.
Speaker 2: Well, Felicity Blunt, Yeah, the way he left his wife
Speaker 2: for her and then his wife had cancer and he
Speaker 2: got back with his wife and left Edie Falco and
Speaker 2: Edi fa never married.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he got out of cancer guilt.
Speaker 2: I don't know I who's out of cancer guilt. I
Speaker 2: think he was like, let me get back with my wife.
Speaker 2: But some mother my children.
Speaker 1: Yes, And sometimes an illness can throw your priorities into
Speaker 1: stark relief.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know the exact timeline. It could have
Speaker 2: been like he needed some relief. And you know, of
Speaker 2: course you've done many plays. When you do play and
Speaker 2: you're with the cast, emotions.
Speaker 1: Playing chemistry, and that can supersede reality.
Speaker 2: Right, we almost get into these romances. Forty five minutes
Speaker 2: at the iHeart Offices.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. Also just the redness of the iHeart Studio,
Speaker 1: the roomb if you will, and I.
Speaker 2: Saw this quote from felt being like, oh, I'm thrilled
Speaker 2: he's back with his wife. I'm sure anyway, I read
Speaker 2: his wife did pass sadly, passes.
Speaker 1: Very sadly in two thousand and nine. In two thousand
Speaker 1: and ten, he attends the wedding of John Krasinski and
Speaker 1: Emily Blunt and whoms does he meet at the wedding
Speaker 1: Felicity Bluntity And of course.
Speaker 2: He had just done the devil rest pradact with Emily,
Speaker 2: which is they were becoming quite close.
Speaker 1: And then one you later he's married to Felicity.
Speaker 2: I think to one year later he they hook up
Speaker 2: at a firm deal group property and at the Charlotte
Speaker 2: Street Hotel. Sorry, okay, they make and then the next
Speaker 2: year they're married. I mean, when I read that timeline,
Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, wife, If illco back with wife, wife dies.
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a talent, it's also passionate.
Speaker 2: Also, it's classic man they need women, Yes, they need woman. Also,
Speaker 2: I think I don't think it's too soon. No, my
Speaker 2: first reaction was absolutely right.
Speaker 1: I said, if I died and my boyfriend.
Speaker 2: Married within two years, right.
Speaker 1: Lived would be absolutely corpse.
Speaker 2: You'd be rolling in your firm deal group grave. I
Speaker 2: think it's also I mean he had two kids and
Speaker 2: was like, I think that just is very classic male.
Speaker 2: They're like, okay, I'm a single father.
Speaker 1: I need to like But also like Tucci is the
Speaker 1: most eligible man alive, and so just like when he
Speaker 1: became an Eli bachelor, it's like, so he's a gorgeous
Speaker 1: man who takes care of his body, wildly successful, elegant,
Speaker 1: can cook, loves travel, knows about wine, cares a little
Speaker 1: breast literature.
Speaker 2: It's like, he's not gonna stay single. But I also
Speaker 2: don't see and to your point of all those things,
Speaker 2: I think he is someone that wants like more of
Speaker 2: a long term companion. I don't think after the wife
Speaker 2: he was probably like, Okay, I'm gonna like fuck around.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just gonna move on fast and get
Speaker 2: a younger wife and younger. She is younger, she is
Speaker 2: she's younger than Emily. Yeah, she's twenty one years his junior.
Speaker 1: And there is a place, there's funny part where he's
Speaker 1: just like, and of course my child. And then comes
Speaker 1: the questions, why are you so much older than mommy?
Speaker 1: But why is mommy still taller than you?
Speaker 2: The bar was so funny. He was like, this is
Speaker 2: what's happening during bedtime, which.
Speaker 1: Makes them a huge fem tiny butch couple. Yes, but
Speaker 1: this makes sense because I heard from someone recently that
Speaker 1: I saw in real life. Oh yeah, he said they
Speaker 1: had seen Stanley Tucci recently in real life, and of
Speaker 1: course the Union Square Farmer's market.
Speaker 2: Of course, and he was like just picking up what's fresh,
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'm so into aliums lately.
Speaker 1: And they said he was short af I mean Italian
Speaker 1: guys are short, and he was wearing like when do
Speaker 1: you remember? He was wearing an open cartigan kind of
Speaker 1: maybe a khaki pant or a dress pant, a rown
Speaker 1: kind of like leathery sneakery kind of dress shoes like
Speaker 1: Dad Dad, but.
Speaker 2: Like it's all Rothman's like he was probably like really
Speaker 2: nice leather.
Speaker 1: It was definitely nice, like Milanese, like four hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty dollars, like sneaker dress shoes.
Speaker 2: In this book, He's like, well, you know, I like
Speaker 2: clothes as much as I like food.
Speaker 1: I certainly does. Yeah, I don't think everyone needs to
Speaker 1: wear a three piece suit every day, but my goodness,
Speaker 1: he was like.
Speaker 2: My goodness a T shirt to a premiere and he's like,
Speaker 2: this is why I love wool and this is why
Speaker 2: I love Autumn.
Speaker 1: This book is very transparent about the job of celebrity
Speaker 1: because it's just like he's like, I'm a sanm Pella
Speaker 1: greena ambassador, I'm a Tanker Ray.
Speaker 2: And also it's like Tanker Ray number three, Like he
Speaker 2: really gets specific.
Speaker 1: He's like, well take Gray number ten. There's no number three.
Speaker 2: I'll leave.
Speaker 1: You can see yourself out.
Speaker 2: This is like when I heard it, Gay was like,
Speaker 2: I'm surprised how much Lily doesn't know. On the podcast,
Speaker 2: this is when he's referring to go on.
Speaker 1: For the Palace event, I had chosen to wear a
Speaker 1: cream colored linen, double breasted and muted plaid suit, a
Speaker 1: white shirt of brown tie, brown socks, and brown shoes.
Speaker 1: I love clothing as much as I love food, and
Speaker 1: I always like to dress not only well but appropriately
Speaker 1: for whatever the occasion might be. I loathe the fact
Speaker 1: that our world has become so casual, so many people
Speaker 1: were the same thing for a night on in the
Speaker 1: town or to the theater that they were around the house,
Speaker 1: which is most often a T shirt and jeans, or
Speaker 1: even just sweatpants. When I did some cocktail videos during
Speaker 1: lockdown for my Instagram, one person commented very excitedly that
Speaker 1: I was wearing pants and a belt, although to be fair,
Speaker 1: that was all people talked about in lockdowns and pants
Speaker 1: with pants and hard pants, hard pants and soft pants.
Speaker 1: Let's face it, adults today dressed like children. Shots fired.
Speaker 1: I'm not suggesting that one down a three piece suit
Speaker 1: every day, but anything other than short sneakers and T
Speaker 1: shirts plastered with oversized logos or catchphrases like I used
Speaker 1: to drink but that was hours ago, or shit I
Speaker 1: don't have time for, followed by a list of that
Speaker 1: quote shit would be a step in the right direction.
Speaker 2: Him quoting my sassy Walmartees, I was obsessed. Im go off.
Speaker 2: I mean say more, say it more for the people
Speaker 2: in the back, and you don't. And that's the thing.
Speaker 2: You don't have to be a coastally. It's just like
Speaker 2: we think, now, oh, everyone else's casual, so then you
Speaker 2: don't dress up, and then it's just casual. Casual casual.
Speaker 2: I mean, go to the theater and people aren't.
Speaker 1: You go to the theater and people are in sweet
Speaker 1: sure vests, disgusting, horrendous. You and I are going to
Speaker 1: a film premiere after this, and we're and stun beautiful
Speaker 1: slacks kids, ripe slacks and dress shoes and button down
Speaker 1: shirts and silver brais.
Speaker 2: Silver bracelets, and we didn't plan these outfits to be
Speaker 2: max exactly. The thing. What I was so inspired by
Speaker 2: reading this book is I kept on like reading, and
Speaker 2: then I would get up and go to my fridge
Speaker 2: and just make kind of random ship because I feel
Speaker 2: like that's what like random shit, because I was like,
Speaker 2: this theme is about how he's always like, oh, like
Speaker 2: my kids are so picking. He's trying to like push
Speaker 2: more things on them, but they're also kind of like
Speaker 2: still more advanced than like most I would say, like
Speaker 2: American children, Like one of them, who's four, is always
Speaker 2: asking for like butter noodles.
Speaker 1: But the other one is like then graduates to wanting apasta,
Speaker 1: wanting to an apasta, which I would have never had
Speaker 1: as like an eight year old or whatever.
Speaker 2: Now and they're having like pesto at four, which I
Speaker 2: feel like.
Speaker 1: I arrived home in time to see the kids before school.
Speaker 1: They did pot moments afterwards into the Caravra nanny who's
Speaker 1: barely mentioned.
Speaker 2: Yeah, then nanny. But then you're like, obviously they have
Speaker 2: so much nann eating because like Ham and Felicity are
Speaker 2: always going out.
Speaker 1: But we'll get to the parenting in a second. Who,
Speaker 1: along with Felicity more than picked up the slack while
Speaker 1: I was away. I scrambled some eggs, pried up some
Speaker 1: Cotto cook slice Italian Ham, slapped it all between two
Speaker 1: pieces of lightly toasted white bread from the nineteen fifties
Speaker 1: our bakery around the corner, wolfed it down, then collapse
Speaker 1: into bed for longer than I'm disapated. Obviously, the sleeping
Speaker 1: pill decided that it had not completely fulfilled its mission.
Speaker 1: In the evening, after the children in pasta combest though,
Speaker 1: I seen muscles and white wineishchilads and garlic, dressed them
Speaker 1: with olive oil and parsley, and serve them with toasted
Speaker 1: French bread. I also made spaghetti with fresh tomato sauce
Speaker 1: for me because I was hungry than I had realized.
Speaker 1: Felicity declined my offer to join me for a bit
Speaker 1: of it.
Speaker 2: Can I just say this to all of you kto
Speaker 2: heads out there, and you're like, we need to eat
Speaker 2: like eight hundred pounds of like bacon and steak and
Speaker 2: like chicken and TikTok girls making duns bean salads is
Speaker 2: like you can have pasta.
Speaker 1: Fasta around the clock. Yeah, So well, everything he eats
Speaker 1: is so delicious, don't need to have like the most
Speaker 1: restaurants he goes.
Speaker 2: To, right, which he's always like so annoyed. Yeah, which
Speaker 2: I love him talking about bad restaurants.
Speaker 1: And he never names the restaurants, which is which.
Speaker 2: Perhaps a bit too Yeah, and he doesn't even mention
Speaker 2: like Delta when they piss him off.
Speaker 1: I know, And I'm a little like maybe like name
Speaker 1: your enemy a little more, like it's okay.
Speaker 2: Like he has pasta probably like every other night, if
Speaker 2: not every.
Speaker 1: Day, and he looks incredible because he also works out.
Speaker 2: With hit Monique, his trainer. He's exercising like two hours
Speaker 2: a day and a lot of I think you know
Speaker 2: what he's having. And he says, which is so true,
Speaker 2: Like it's so much better than like Fanny Singer's like
Speaker 2: coming home pasta that's we've roasted to no end of
Speaker 2: having like three pots of pasta boiling and like wild garlic.
Speaker 2: He says, when he gets to a place, a new place,
Speaker 2: he makes a tomato sauce just to ground himself.
Speaker 1: That was so coming home pasta though, but I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's a little more real than coming home pasta. Yes,
Speaker 2: is my point of her just being like, get seven pots,
Speaker 2: find the wild garlic. He's just being like, what do
Speaker 2: I actually have? Okay, I have this one onion, I
Speaker 2: have garlic.
Speaker 1: I can make canto sauce.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I made in my like gloomy too cheese week
Speaker 1: on Nantucket, we made pasta a la home when no sorry,
Speaker 1: pizza Ala home pizza. And I made a tomato sauce
Speaker 1: that I thought was so good, one of the best
Speaker 1: tomato sauces I've made, and obviously was so simple. But
Speaker 1: I just did one Vodalia.
Speaker 2: Onion so sweet you can almost eat it like an apple.
Speaker 2: She's always saying that. He's just been like, hm, Millie,
Speaker 2: my fouryerl didn't want to bite into the Vodalia raw,
Speaker 2: but I put a little butter and salt on it.
Speaker 1: Well there's one Lunch just makes onions, literally just makes onions.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, onion.
Speaker 2: I I love onions anyway, So you did just garlic
Speaker 2: basil tomato, no basil in the sauce.
Speaker 1: Okay, the sauce was just the garlic, the onion, tomato paste,
Speaker 1: a whole thing of anchovies, the whole can of San
Speaker 1: Marzana tomatoes, and then a little ban of onion powder,
Speaker 1: a little then of garlic powder. I know that's kind
Speaker 1: of unorthodox, a little bit to put the powders in,
Speaker 1: but it's like you can do. Why pretend that I'm
Speaker 1: not just at home, you know, making a pantry pasta sauce, or.
Speaker 2: You want to throw powder.
Speaker 1: I used to be just a smidge no.
Speaker 2: No, I used to be like very hashtag Italians mat
Speaker 2: of food, Like I didn't grow up with garlet powder
Speaker 2: or like onion powder, right, and I have brought it
Speaker 2: into my home and like I'll use it sparingly when
Speaker 2: I want it. And it's like, yeah, let's throw this
Speaker 2: on the chicken. Let's throw a little onion powder on
Speaker 2: a sauce. It's not going to kill it.
Speaker 1: Sometimes sometimes. Yes. The point is my pizza sauce was
Speaker 1: really quite lovey. Did you make the dough? So the
Speaker 1: dough was no judgment purchased, but it was local dough.
Speaker 1: It was from something natural bakery. It was like a
Speaker 1: Nantucket Bakery.
Speaker 2: No, literally, that's so Stanley Tucci. Yeah, like, oh, we
Speaker 2: stopped by and we provisioned like an amazing dough. We
Speaker 2: can whip this up. Sirsha Ronan is going over later.
Speaker 1: Sirsha and her lovely brother and his wife and their kids,
Speaker 1: and they raise their kids the way that we do
Speaker 1: to behave themselves.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, he talks about parenting and they're going on
Speaker 2: this like holiday trip and he's like, I just have
Speaker 2: a few rules because I cannot go on holiday with
Speaker 2: people that don't parent like me. And my rules are
Speaker 2: like say you're pleasing, thank yous, and just like go
Speaker 2: to bed at a certain time.
Speaker 1: There is something very I would say, unbothered about his
Speaker 1: parenting style, which I think is partially so this is
Speaker 1: his second round of kids. Yeah, he's also sixty and
Speaker 1: rich and has a nanny that goes unmentioned. But there
Speaker 1: is a little bit of this where it's like it's.
Speaker 2: A very celebrity where it's just like, oh, he calls
Speaker 2: Felicity fee so like maybe they'll be in France or
Speaker 2: something like that and like we'll be like, oh we
Speaker 2: when with already on who is our host? And we
Speaker 2: chased tadpools with the kids, and then it's kind of
Speaker 2: drop the kids off, and then Fie and I went
Speaker 2: to like seven different like local oyster restaurant.
Speaker 1: There's this joy of seeing the world through the kids
Speaker 1: are so which of course happens. We have kids and
Speaker 1: it's wonderful. But like when he's visiting their parents in
Speaker 1: Florida for the most where we did little to nothing
Speaker 1: except eat and take million Mateo that's the two younger
Speaker 1: kids that he has with Felicity to one of the
Speaker 1: small community pools that the part of this sprawling condo
Speaker 1: complex where my folks live. We splashed about with them,
Speaker 1: play the loudest games of Marco Polo the condo residents
Speaker 1: have probably ever heard, and helped Mateo as best we
Speaker 1: could to capture and hold chameleons for hours on end
Speaker 1: over our five days stay. My mother made various positives
Speaker 1: from her repertoire chicken cut lit, slap chops. But I
Speaker 1: feel like the way he's talking about parenting is a
Speaker 1: little bit like it's the first time he's seen the
Speaker 1: kids in a while. It's always a little bit like.
Speaker 2: Well, because he's traveling so much and he's always like
Speaker 2: doing openings for his cookwear line out a Williams Sonoma
Speaker 2: and then is like doing a movie where he plays
Speaker 2: a priest, like New Orleans. And then he's like, I
Speaker 2: love seeing my kids.
Speaker 1: I love seeing my kids. Oh my god, we caught Solomonders.
Speaker 1: It's so cute anyway byeto club.
Speaker 2: Okay, are we going to talk about it? Let's finally
Speaker 2: talk about it. So on page sixty nine, he starts
Speaker 2: dropping little references.
Speaker 1: This is the first instance I.
Speaker 2: Have where you're like, do you guys have an open marriage?
Speaker 2: He says Felicity was out this evening. She said it
Speaker 2: was work related. I chose to believe her. And then
Speaker 2: just I'm gonna give you this is a whole other
Speaker 2: thing that we need to talk about. I made Chip
Speaker 2: a lot of sausages for the kids in the new Airfire,
Speaker 2: amazing contraption, and a side of rice and peas.
Speaker 1: Now is that I'm surprised he likes the air f
Speaker 1: I was really surprised. He also mentions that she makes
Speaker 1: a broth at an instant pot. At one point, I
Speaker 1: was kind of like, that makes more sense, that's very boomer.
Speaker 1: But the airfire I was kind of shocked by because
Speaker 1: He also when he goes that wine bar that has
Speaker 1: the weird.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, with the machine marking.
Speaker 1: Me that quirks the bottle. I thought he would hate that.
Speaker 1: That was so gimmicky and weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there is something. This is why he likes
Speaker 2: the Firmdale Group. Yes, no, I feel like blonde. I
Speaker 2: feel like there's something metrosexual. Or you may disagree, like
Speaker 2: I feel like my Gadgett Gotchet's Sharper Brookstone and he's
Speaker 2: been like, wait, so get this. We went to this
Speaker 2: wonderful owned by the W Group. So basically it's there's
Speaker 2: a bar where you press a button, wine pours out
Speaker 2: and then it like corks it back up. And he's like,
Speaker 2: and it stays fresh for three weeks. Like, I feel
Speaker 2: like it is just dad to be so impressed by that,
Speaker 2: even though he's so like Tuscany, like these onions have
Speaker 2: gone bad, He's just like, oh my god, what an
Speaker 2: amazing contraption that is.
Speaker 1: There's also the point in which I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's like Liam Neeson or like Colin fir this over
Speaker 1: for dinner, but he's like, we tried to hyper decant
Speaker 1: wine in a blender. Insane I really want to try that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was Colin Firth, and he's like, Firth made
Speaker 2: me hyperd decant. Next time we get together, let's totally
Speaker 2: hyperd decant.
Speaker 1: Okay. So the next kind of like instance that maybe
Speaker 1: like something's rotten in this Denmark being their marriage, he goes,
Speaker 1: they're cooking scallops that even Felicity saw taped some scallops,
Speaker 1: but they didn't really see it because the pan had
Speaker 1: not gotten hot enough, which was my fault because I
Speaker 1: had reduced the heat as the butter was about to
Speaker 1: burn and didn't communicate that. They didn't work out as
Speaker 1: well as she had hoped. She ate a few, but
Speaker 1: I had overindulged in cold soup not long before. I
Speaker 1: only had one.
Speaker 2: That that was a horror movie to me. That paragraph
Speaker 2: like when you put a scallop down and.
Speaker 1: My god, sitting there baking with baking from the inside.
Speaker 2: Out, My god chills.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's just gonna be this kind of sad, thick,
Speaker 1: rubbery sweat scallup that isn't getting that gorgeous here, no, Chris,
Speaker 1: because this scallop should be seared at the highest he
Speaker 1: possible for the shortest amount of time.
Speaker 2: One minute. Then there's a moment where like he's like
Speaker 2: stripping outdoor furniture because like they put ugly varnish on it,
Speaker 2: which again was like so metrosexual, and he's like, didn't
Speaker 2: eat fee and I are like in an argument, and
Speaker 2: I feel awful about it.
Speaker 1: Also, when she's sort of out of town for the weekend,
Speaker 1: then she comes back, he's making obviously small potatoes and
Speaker 1: carrots with garlic and onions, rosemary time and leaks and
Speaker 1: spring onions and larger potatoes and a potato leak soup
Speaker 1: and he's chicken breadth.
Speaker 2: It is planning parmasana, but it's not. It's actually the
Speaker 2: way my family does it.
Speaker 1: And so she's been in France allegedly I'm alone with
Speaker 1: Millia Matteo as Felicity is on a sort of retreating
Speaker 1: Bordeaux with two colleagues, something I almost believe was true.
Speaker 2: That line was insane.
Speaker 1: I mean creps that morning for them. That just she
Speaker 1: just leaves it there. So I'm just like wait because
Speaker 1: at first, like it happens, You're like, do you try
Speaker 1: to make a joke? Be like, oh, like is that
Speaker 1: what she's doing? And then then she comes back Okay,
Speaker 1: so this is when Repack yes. Upon her arrival, she
Speaker 1: was delighted to see the children, of course, smothered them
Speaker 1: with hugs and kisses. Cursorally pecked me on the cheek
Speaker 1: and started to eat. Soon afterwards, we all watched a
Speaker 1: Harry Potter film. She promptly fell asleep beside a wide
Speaker 1: awake Millie. Seems that someone had a busy weekend. I
Speaker 1: chose to remain in ignorant bliss.
Speaker 2: That was insane. What cursory peck on the cheek.
Speaker 1: Which is so something you do after you've been having
Speaker 1: an affair.
Speaker 2: Well, also, I remember having this thought as a child,
Speaker 2: and like seeing parents always like peck bank on it,
Speaker 2: girl pack each other. And I was like, wait, what's
Speaker 2: what the peck? I was like, do parents even make out?
Speaker 2: Like I've never seen parents make out before? Like do
Speaker 2: you just peck when you're older and married?
Speaker 1: I know it's this weird thing because like I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if it's because like old lips are weirder.
Speaker 2: Or it's like in old they're always so hum right.
Speaker 1: Well old movies they're always so close mouth kiss. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Times where boomers learned to kiss was from old movies. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so they don't know how.
Speaker 2: To from Humphrey Bogart and they weren't watching such wild
Speaker 2: things and things I hate about Sessions.
Speaker 1: But I also feel like they were going to like
Speaker 1: make out mountain in their like nulteen fifty one, Like.
Speaker 2: They were victorious and they were being like sucking face.
Speaker 2: They were sucking face, and there was so much heavy
Speaker 2: padding and like putting their hands up like varsity jackets. O.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she put her hand up his jacket. So I
Speaker 1: feel like if any one over sixties making out, it's
Speaker 1: Tanley Tucci.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So then there's this final this where he names
Speaker 2: the puppy yes, and they buy they my mother, yea,
Speaker 2: thank you. Our marriage is doing just great. They buy
Speaker 2: this house in the British countryside. It's also just like
Speaker 2: classic celebrity thing where he's like, oh, it's so expensive
Speaker 2: and it's going to take like all my life savings
Speaker 2: to fix up this house in the English country stide.
Speaker 1: It's just the poverty cosplays the brief poverty cost.
Speaker 2: I have to work and I have to renovate, and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna die if I don't renovate. We spent the
Speaker 2: day at the house with the architects, and the engineer
Speaker 2: and the landscapers. I'm very excited about the prospect of
Speaker 2: creating a home where we can spend time together as
Speaker 2: a family, where friends and extended family can come from
Speaker 2: long weekends. Where I can build an art studio in
Speaker 2: an auxiliary kitchen in which to film the cooking show
Speaker 2: that has been percolating in my hungry mind for a
Speaker 2: while now. Where we can plant a vegetable garden and
Speaker 2: a small orchard and put the benefits of them to
Speaker 2: good use every season. Where my daughters or sons can
Speaker 2: get married, Where Felicity can bring her lover parenthesy s lovers,
Speaker 2: where my protologists can visit, where our grandchildren can spend time.
Speaker 2: He goes on, so, so.
Speaker 1: Yeah, actually, Polly dire And at that point you're like,
Speaker 1: so that's the poll reveal. Yeah, And I'm like, if
Speaker 1: it was a joke, it would be like more of
Speaker 1: an obvious running joke. But it's only like reference basically,
Speaker 1: these three times of him being like, Huh, guess you
Speaker 1: had a fun weekend.
Speaker 2: Guess you had a fun night. Oh, you had a
Speaker 2: book launch tonight. She certainly has a lot of launches. Meanwhile,
Speaker 2: he's at a San pellygreena launch every hour of the day, right,
Speaker 2: And he's like, doing, are they open? And is it?
Speaker 2: Just like I don't ask, don't tell, because like he's
Speaker 2: known for Landra one. Two he's older, so she's like,
Speaker 2: you're old, Like I need to have fun. Three he
Speaker 2: travels so much, so she's like, I need to have
Speaker 2: fun if I'm just.
Speaker 1: Gonna be he's twenty two years her senior. It's like,
Speaker 1: I do feel like, you know, she's in a different
Speaker 1: generation in which open marriage is more common. It's weird
Speaker 1: that he would like I feel like because he's so
Speaker 1: like Instagram video every day of like Risotto, their whole
Speaker 1: he might be so like weird interview in parade being
Speaker 1: like we're.
Speaker 2: Open, but no, I know, and I like then I
Speaker 2: started googling Stanley's and there's nothing about it. No. And
Speaker 2: there's one interview where he says he'd tried to break
Speaker 2: up with her because he was like I felt embarrassed
Speaker 2: because I was so much older than her, and like
Speaker 2: in this kind of like no, don't.
Speaker 1: Leave, no, don't leave me.
Speaker 2: Like we're going on holiday with Emily and John and
Speaker 2: the kids and Ryan Reynolds and Blake coming over and
Speaker 2: he's being like, oh my risotta plan is ruined. So
Speaker 2: I kind of think they're open. He thinks he's being
Speaker 2: really like funny and dad joke about their.
Speaker 1: Open I mean, unless he's just being dad joke in
Speaker 1: general and they're not open, and he's just like, these
Speaker 1: are just jokes. But I'm just like the amount of
Speaker 1: them and the specificity of them, it's a lot, but
Speaker 1: it's not that much, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 1: like there's she was.
Speaker 2: Every page like, oh, yes, so Ryan Reynolds came over, Felicity.
Speaker 1: Back, Yeah, you know, right. But it's like just these
Speaker 1: three very specific instances of him being like she allegedly
Speaker 1: went to Bordeaux with her girlfriends.
Speaker 2: Choose to believe it cursory peck.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the peck at the end, it's like that's the thing.
Speaker 2: But then also throughout the book he's like, oh, I
Speaker 2: feel like which again is so celebrity. He's like, I
Speaker 2: feel so at home, Like when in the first part
Speaker 2: of the book he's like staying in a hotel he
Speaker 2: hates in Italy, and it's like filming.
Speaker 1: With Isabella Roussolini. Ralph finds and they're in this movie
Speaker 1: called Conclave, which is coming. I just saw an ad
Speaker 1: for it.
Speaker 2: It looks so good and it's like Priests.
Speaker 1: It's Priests and it's just like a torrid thriller about
Speaker 1: the Catholic Church and all these cardinals.
Speaker 2: Okay. I saw the poster and I was like last night.
Speaker 1: When I was this looks like the best movie ever.
Speaker 1: So DIMENTI code and.
Speaker 2: He talks about like how the camera. Yeah, but he's
Speaker 2: always like and I made Minnestrone to like eat in
Speaker 2: my trailer. And then he's like, oh, Ralph and I
Speaker 2: finally finally got to have dinner together.
Speaker 1: And then they be good friends. And he's like, you know,
Speaker 1: it's hard to make good friends at this age. Oh,
Speaker 1: because he's like, well, we'd worked together and made in Manhattan, oh,
Speaker 1: twenty years ago.
Speaker 2: That was amazing. That was like my first note because
Speaker 2: I was like, finally we're actually talking about made of Manhattan.
Speaker 1: We worked together before I made Manhattan over twenty years ago,
Speaker 1: very briefly in The King's Man we'd only ever socialized
Speaker 1: a few times, so Filmy gave us the opportunity to
Speaker 1: spend time. When I one that era early two thousand,
Speaker 1: Stanley two, she played like gay coded straight men who
Speaker 1: were like communications assistants.
Speaker 2: Den Laware's Prada.
Speaker 1: In Made Manhattan, he plays Ralph Kine, who is a
Speaker 1: Republican senator. He plays his like head of.
Speaker 2: Colm who's like annoyed at Jennifer Lopez's son and is
Speaker 2: so just like you better get out of here.
Speaker 1: Right, and it's just like make sure that she's not
Speaker 1: a Democrat, because we can't have that in the news
Speaker 1: in the New York Post, thank you very much. And
Speaker 1: then in del War's Prada, he's just like Gerda Lloins
Speaker 1: and it's just like gay but not. And this is
Speaker 1: also why he's every mom's dream, because hello, he's.
Speaker 2: Gay, but not just to gay enough for them to
Speaker 2: be like, ugh, I wish my husband would care about
Speaker 2: Marino Wool I mean, and like he's so like Codliver.
Speaker 1: He's like one of those like illustrated birthday cards for women.
Speaker 1: Oh they're like.
Speaker 2: Takes me out to dinner, wears fine suits. Right, it's
Speaker 2: just like buys me back.
Speaker 1: You got me on. It's like a man with like
Speaker 1: a hot body like in a vacuum being just like sweetie,
Speaker 1: like I just cleaned the living room. And then just
Speaker 1: like I thought I'd get you something that didn't exist
Speaker 1: for your birthday like he is that.
Speaker 2: I mean his like first breakout roll of Big Night,
Speaker 2: which I remember watching a young Italian American and you know,
Speaker 2: it's about the two Italian brothers who opened a restaurant
Speaker 2: in New York, and this line really stuck with me
Speaker 2: and some One of the most famous lines is he
Speaker 2: serves this American couple of posta meatballs and they asked
Speaker 2: for bread, and he phillips his ass on them, and
Speaker 2: he's being so like you are having pasta, you don't
Speaker 2: also inneed of bread. And then in that movie they
Speaker 2: make which I've only made once, timpanello, which is like
Speaker 2: pasta pie. It's crazy and it takes all day and
Speaker 2: it's a meat sauce but it's like ravioli, but it's
Speaker 2: layers and you're baking it and it's pastry.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about food a little bit more.
Speaker 1: There's a really great passage where he is making a
Speaker 1: tomato and he goes, luckily it was a tomato that
Speaker 1: actually tasted like a tomato. Like so many vegetables these days,
Speaker 1: tomatoes often taste of nothing. When did that start happening?
Speaker 1: Things used to taste like what they were. Now something
Speaker 1: that looks like a tomato or a carrot tastes like
Speaker 1: just a thought of those things and fruit of vegetables
Speaker 1: organic they usually taste better, but not always. I remember
Speaker 1: pulling carrots on my grandfather's garden and the depth of
Speaker 1: flavor being profound. It was the same with everything you grew,
Speaker 1: from onions to plums. I think he's dead right, and
Speaker 1: I think there are so many gross tomatoes and we've
Speaker 1: actually become so accustomed to the tasteless tomato that we
Speaker 1: forget what a real tomatoes post.
Speaker 2: Well, it's because of our American desire to have food
Speaker 2: all year round, but it's also I feel conservatives.
Speaker 1: So it's your right that it's like, so we have
Speaker 1: least tomatoes in February there shitty, but it's like then
Speaker 1: you can go to the supermarket in July and still
Speaker 1: get those shitty tomatoes for sale. It's like they're doing
Speaker 1: February tomato.
Speaker 2: That's why you do, like have to go to like
Speaker 2: the farmers market to get a tomato that tastes like
Speaker 2: a tomato. I mean, I feel like most of the
Speaker 2: time a farmer's market tomato is pretty good. And that's
Speaker 2: what was my Stanley Tucci moment today where I had
Speaker 2: this last of the summer tomato and I was reading
Speaker 2: this book and I was like, I need to use
Speaker 2: this tomato right now because Stanley Tucci would. So I
Speaker 2: cut up the rest of the half. I saw tata
Speaker 2: with garlic, ginger scallions, and then I took leftover Chinese
Speaker 2: food rice and made a tomato ginger fried rice, little
Speaker 2: sesame oil, a little soy sauce that sounds so and
Speaker 2: just threw an egg in there and just left it
Speaker 2: on the stove for Felicity to have later. My literary
Speaker 2: age that if so kind of you, what's gonna happen
Speaker 2: in the tomato? If not, it will go?
Speaker 1: Yeah, it will absolutely go. I used tomato is about
Speaker 1: to go. This morning I made it delicious, delicious sandwich
Speaker 1: with boar's head.
Speaker 2: Ham the stereo vibes.
Speaker 1: One raw red on the thick slice of tomato and
Speaker 1: then defrosted Portuguese bread that was in a freezer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is another thing of I mean
Speaker 2: food and also British food versus us. So he buys
Speaker 2: beef and his parents are visiting and as they call
Speaker 2: it mince and his mom is freaking out, being like
Speaker 2: this beef is too lean.
Speaker 1: He acts like he's out of petrol.
Speaker 2: I'm like, bitch, no, calm down.
Speaker 1: He's just like And of course in America, you guys
Speaker 1: call it a backyard, but we prefer the term garden.
Speaker 1: It's so much nicer. I'm like, wee bitch, real it the.
Speaker 2: Fucking noll and like mar Worchester or whatever.
Speaker 1: I love that when he encounters food he doesn't like,
Speaker 1: he just literally doesn't eat it. Yes, he's like. We
Speaker 1: were on a weird like boat cruise dinner for the
Speaker 1: Oppenheimer France premiere and they served some like god awful aspera.
Speaker 1: Guess I had one minus that I can't do it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go talk to Killian Murphy instead. But I
Speaker 1: think it's like something that maybe you and I could
Speaker 1: do a little bit more, because I do feel like when.
Speaker 2: Food is I was like, I need to be throwing
Speaker 2: we don't like.
Speaker 1: It, we're just eating it, and it's like, no, just
Speaker 1: don't eat food you don't like. Ever, just be politely declined.
Speaker 1: Thank you for saying that, because insulting, like, just don't
Speaker 1: eat it.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also love the gastro pub disaster. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: he's so honest about when a mule shitty.
Speaker 2: Haven't we all been there?
Speaker 1: But it was a rather lovely, upscale, cozy place that
Speaker 1: have received several accolades over the years. So it's being
Speaker 1: so like getting like the best of the Cotswalds or whatever.
Speaker 1: It's like in this Redom.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it felt a very Amtrak magazine where it's like
Speaker 2: the Sunday Roast is like, oh, you just go to
Speaker 2: whatever pub. But then are there are these like famous.
Speaker 1: Elevated gastro pub that's like this chef is returning to
Speaker 1: his hometown and he.
Speaker 2: Is using and they're being kind of the bear and
Speaker 2: they're like they're actually making an elevated.
Speaker 1: Shirt trying to tie so bare. But like says, they
Speaker 1: were trying to do it like a spin on the classics,
Speaker 1: and it had spun out of control. We were all
Speaker 1: very excited, but then things took a bit of a turn.
Speaker 1: Our food was delayed for an inordinate amount of time
Speaker 1: because the customer had spilled beer with a computer system.
Speaker 1: In fact, we'd only learned about on our departure. The
Speaker 1: kids who came straight away, I guess their order having
Speaker 1: been put in pre spill. As we waited and waited
Speaker 1: and waited, we did find it strange that no staff
Speaker 1: never ever alerted that's that there would be a delay,
Speaker 1: or explain what had happened. We kept asking our service
Speaker 1: for the food, only to be told that they would
Speaker 1: check on it. But I guess they never really checked
Speaker 1: because they would disappear yet again from their fifteen minutes.
Speaker 1: After we've been waiting an hour and a half, the
Speaker 1: food finally came. I had hack with sampfire, which probably
Speaker 1: took all of seven minutes to cook. It was just okay.
Speaker 1: Other people had other things like meat, but I was
Speaker 1: too irritated to care. In the end, the owner's apologies
Speaker 1: were tipid at best, and he didn't do what any
Speaker 1: good restaurant ur would do, which is not charged for
Speaker 1: the wine or the dessert or something by way of
Speaker 1: compensating us for the long wait. In Italy they would overcome.
Speaker 2: No, that is crazy that they didn't get a free
Speaker 2: round of drinks.
Speaker 1: It's so that I'm just like just the drinks, the dessert,
Speaker 1: not the whole meal.
Speaker 2: But hour forty five minutes obscene? What in here that
Speaker 2: he makes?
Speaker 1: Do you want to make mm, that's a really good question.
Speaker 2: Well you think on that. For me, it's the historic
Speaker 2: goose ragu He's in a town owned by the design
Speaker 2: of Brunella Cucinelli, and it's like this historic goose ragou
Speaker 2: that I guess it's like clergymen would always be eating goose,
Speaker 2: and like one day a year they let the peasants
Speaker 2: have goose. So the peasants as a full town put
Speaker 2: all these goose into these communal ovens and made like
Speaker 2: a goo bolonaise.
Speaker 1: So do you want to do your own goosebulans or
Speaker 1: do you want to do it with your whole community.
Speaker 2: I think I want to do my community. I think
Speaker 2: it's more like about like, yeah, community of everyone roasting
Speaker 2: goose because the bolonnai is to make it last longer.
Speaker 1: Two things I want to do. One is he just
Speaker 1: makes a tomato sandwich at one point, but he's like,
Speaker 1: oh no, he missed a tomato pasta. It's like a
Speaker 1: taglia tel for like I don't know Colin for than Emily. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And he's like, I had these really good in season tomatoes,
Speaker 1: but he lets them sit in alive our own salt in
Speaker 1: the fridge for two hours first and then just throws
Speaker 1: them raw into the pasta when the pasta's done. I
Speaker 1: want to do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's too bad and honestly sad for you because
Speaker 2: we're almost out of tomato season, so have fun with
Speaker 2: your associated tomatoes like raw hard bland. I think, oh,
Speaker 2: this was a beautiful quote, which I think we should
Speaker 2: all buy by it. Like he is just being like
Speaker 2: passaba tomatoes and like a risotto and a fish and
Speaker 2: a salad, which is.
Speaker 1: Also is not He makes risotto constantly, and he has
Speaker 1: his nice patch where he talks about like how difficult
Speaker 1: it is, like I've never cooked risota successfully. It's one
Speaker 1: of the hardest things to do. He's like, you need
Speaker 1: to have such a sixth sense for it. I'm still
Speaker 1: learning after all these years. Like, but I'm impressed that
Speaker 1: he's constantly throwing together I know I want.
Speaker 2: To do it more. And he says this word that
Speaker 2: I learned in this book that I love, this Italian
Speaker 2: word mentakato, which is mean when you turn off the
Speaker 2: heat of the pasta and then you add the cheese
Speaker 2: and the button and then that's when you stir it
Speaker 2: with the.
Speaker 1: Pasta water on it, and you let the heat of
Speaker 1: the pasta itself.
Speaker 2: Cook it cook because the heat of the pan will
Speaker 2: add too much heat. Of course, I actually learned that
Speaker 2: from Mari Potalley. My idea of Fred One celebrity moment
Speaker 2: of his celebrity dinners that I found so funny is it?
Speaker 1: And I just want to say, of course it's crass
Speaker 1: to talk about celebrities again.
Speaker 2: Of course, and I'm not trying to name drop here
Speaker 2: at all. Is when Sam the famous play right an
Speaker 2: actor Sam hell is his name whatever, he at the
Speaker 2: last minute is like, oh can I bring friends over?
Speaker 2: And Stanley Tucci is like he always does this, and
Speaker 2: the friend is like Woody Harrelson and sircial Ronan, Oh
Speaker 2: do He'd already planned on having over. And then the
Speaker 2: friend is like, I'm gonna come over early. And this
Speaker 2: is the point where Stanley Tucci is really costplaying. It
Speaker 2: was like a stressed father and he's been like me
Speaker 2: and Fear are still in our workout gear, the kids
Speaker 2: aren't Bathe like, I haven't even stalked my bar with
Speaker 2: like child martini glasses. And then he's like, oh and
Speaker 2: the friend is like kind of come over early, and
Speaker 2: he gets like really mad and he's like go to
Speaker 2: a fucking bar and the friend is like, put it's raining,
Speaker 2: and he texts back just like it doesn't rain in bars.
Speaker 2: And then they come over and he was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I was so excited to cook for Sirsha because I
Speaker 2: hadn't cooked for her ever. And he was like and
Speaker 2: Woody was hilarious, and I was so glad to beat
Speaker 2: his new wife.
Speaker 1: I mean that's where he is like so gay. But
Speaker 1: I guess also metrosexual is like my kitchen needs to
Speaker 1: be sparklean, clean. Yeah, it is this cosplay where's like
Speaker 1: pretending like they can't see the kid, like eating cheerios
Speaker 1: and it's just.
Speaker 2: Like but I think his advice at the end of
Speaker 2: that was just like have it be clean, have barstock
Speaker 2: with wine, something for a groani, something from martiniz. You
Speaker 2: don't need to call back to our original Zoe episode
Speaker 2: of last week. You don't need whiskey, gin ruquila, say everything.
Speaker 1: Just have the elements for martinis and you're trying to
Speaker 1: go take a great and pretend please.
Speaker 2: And for those non drinking folks, Sam Pellegrino will go
Speaker 2: just fine at the Square to Flemn.
Speaker 1: This book is really you know, and the related thoughts.
Speaker 1: It is like a lot about death and aging, which
Speaker 1: is quite beautiful, and he has a lot to think
Speaker 1: about because he's in his sixties and his wife is
Speaker 1: twenty years younger, so it's like really in his mind,
Speaker 1: and he has these kind of very poignant ways of
Speaker 1: talking about it, like when he talked about how he
Speaker 1: is like now thinking about death a lot more because
Speaker 1: he realized he has twenty years to go, and twenty
Speaker 1: years is amount of time that like he can really
Speaker 1: wrap his head around. Yeah, that really spoke to me
Speaker 1: because I was like, we are and at the age
Speaker 1: of thirty seven, say loud and proud, you know, I've
Speaker 1: maybe got forty fifty years left, and it's like I've
Speaker 1: never experienced forty or fifty years. I can't really maybe I.
Speaker 2: Don't know what twenty that just twenty is, and.
Speaker 1: Like I kind of know what like a thirty year
Speaker 1: chunk is too, Like I mean twenty years ago, like
Speaker 1: that was yesterday, literally thirty years ago still feels like
Speaker 1: like kind of getting it.
Speaker 2: The scariest part to me that made me feel like
Speaker 2: really fear death, which he talked about now that he
Speaker 2: lives in England and like has his new family is
Speaker 2: He's like, I can't see these friends that I spent
Speaker 2: so much time with before, and he was like, if
Speaker 2: you think about that, I'm actually probably only going to
Speaker 2: see some of these people ten more times in my life.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, but that's more like when you're so serious
Speaker 1: and straight and like organizing really seriously.
Speaker 2: That could we could be sixty, it's like not gonna
Speaker 2: be us, and like we both are on our third
Speaker 2: marriages with like four year olds, and I'm just like, oh,
Speaker 2: I would love to meet you, like in Dingley.
Speaker 1: Next fall.
Speaker 2: The same time, he's hanging out with like Colin Firth
Speaker 2: and like Lotty his manager like constantly knowing like you're
Speaker 2: hanging more than no, and.
Speaker 1: They're going like he's going to the River Cafere with
Speaker 1: Tom Ford and then he's like and I won't tell
Speaker 1: you what we discussed, and I'm like, you guys are
Speaker 1: notingly discussing your open marriages and yeah, I'm like wool
Speaker 1: with this one passage where he meets the guy whose
Speaker 1: wife died. This fan who comes up to him, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: and like says that his wife had recently passed, and
Speaker 1: he's like his hand shook a bit when he took mine,
Speaker 1: to which he held on tightly. I recognized the shaking
Speaker 1: was from age as well as nervousness, but I also
Speaker 1: knew that it was brought about by a flood of
Speaker 1: emotion as he held my hand. I knew that the
Speaker 1: very real and visceral feeling of her presence. So he's
Speaker 1: talking about how like the wife is there brought about
Speaker 1: by this moment, an experience they would have shared where
Speaker 1: she's so alive would weigh in over time, But he
Speaker 1: could not know this then did he need to? That
Speaker 1: realization and knowledge was years ahead of him. Yet her
Speaker 1: presence at times such as these would never disappear completely.
Speaker 1: It would always be there, always, but soon it would
Speaker 1: become less prevalent. In time, her presence would slip into
Speaker 1: his body, his heart and thoughts, sometimes gently, sometimes joltingly,
Speaker 1: but it would never last for as long as it
Speaker 1: would today. Eventually, years from now, it would a light
Speaker 1: on the tip of his soul for just a second
Speaker 1: or two, carrying with it a shiver of the past,
Speaker 1: a glimpse of a future that might have been, and
Speaker 1: then it would disappear once again. Isn't that so beautiful?
Speaker 1: And of course he's talking about his own dead wife,
Speaker 1: Kate Kate while talking about using this man as sort
Speaker 1: of And.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, whether or not to go back
Speaker 2: as we close this episode, about moving on or not.
Speaker 2: I think this book is a lot about like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you also can like get remarried and like still be grieving.
Speaker 2: Yes not, you know, just cut and dry. Obviously there
Speaker 2: are harsher situations like John Edwards.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and his monster of a way you see rest
Speaker 1: in Hell.
Speaker 2: But you can have a beautiful open marriage with a
Speaker 2: younger literary yes, and still grieve.
Speaker 1: And still grieve here and there, and then have these
Speaker 1: little precious moments where your wife's presence enters your soul
Speaker 1: for just a moment.
Speaker 2: Maybe you think about texting Eadie Falco just randomly watching
Speaker 2: an episode of The Sopranos.
Speaker 1: They've put the kids to bed after their pasta, and
Speaker 1: then they're just like season three segments with extra virgin
Speaker 1: olive oil and bistecca ala Fiorentina. What does she wear?
Speaker 2: What does she eat? How does what does she eat?
Speaker 1: Pasta? Pasta hotel, the hotel, SA Sausage Joes shrim I
Speaker 1: mean he has a very savory palette, as is the
Speaker 1: custom today with the cool kids. Oh, very classic modern
Speaker 1: contemporary Mediterranean palette. It's like because he says he's not
Speaker 1: a big dessert person.
Speaker 2: Well he also says like, I'm he's not being like
Speaker 2: I'm going to try to like cook like Tetobalki tonight,
Speaker 2: Like he's just like I stick to like what I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, He's like, maybe I'm actually being like too fearful
Speaker 1: and I need to get out of my comfort zone
Speaker 1: and try to cook Asian food more. But then I
Speaker 1: worry I wouldn't have the freedom to kind of adjust
Speaker 1: that I.
Speaker 2: Feel with which that part was so smart, and we
Speaker 2: need to move fast. But it's like you have to
Speaker 2: really know a cuisine.
Speaker 1: To know if it needs a little bit more garlic, oh,
Speaker 1: if it needs like you know, any It's kind of
Speaker 1: where it's like with Chinese food Malaysian food he'sn't known to.
Speaker 2: Do also, which we didn't even mention throughout this entire book.
Speaker 2: This book is also about how he had like a
Speaker 2: tongue tumor and it was like couldn't taste which.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but well he discusses that in his previous book
Speaker 1: Taste Right, and so he can be like, as I
Speaker 1: mentioned in my previous book, and I won't go into two.
Speaker 2: Much because I'm in a book to He can't really
Speaker 2: do much meat. That's why it is a lot of fishing.
Speaker 1: Because he doesn't like produce as much saliva, yeah, which
Speaker 1: is also why he isn't like love as Tannic reds,
Speaker 1: and so he prefers the Northern Italian red, which I
Speaker 1: still find has a lovely tan in to it. Because
Speaker 1: he's talking about how he's like instead of those like
Speaker 1: Central Italian like super big, multiple giano whatever that people
Speaker 1: like I love, who is like men usually want big reds,
Speaker 1: but you know, and he was like absolutely a Northern Italian.
Speaker 2: He realizes that other new metrosexuals don't like a huge
Speaker 2: and their big yeah, don't like big cabs.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and they like you know, the natty natty one.
Speaker 2: And the only time he drinks tequila is at the beginning.
Speaker 2: Oh no, he doesn't even he makes a paloma, but
Speaker 2: he does it with jam.
Speaker 1: That part was so weird when he was like, Felicity
Speaker 1: introduced me to this very interesting new drink called a paloma.
Speaker 1: I know. I was like, I'm like, what I think
Speaker 1: is the only Diagio like ambassador. You don't know about
Speaker 1: polomas and.
Speaker 2: Then they tequila when Blake and Ryan come over, of
Speaker 2: course because like celebrity, even though Ryan owns a gin company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Stanley Tucci's a Gin ambassador. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: they're just being like, we're both celebrities. We have so
Speaker 1: we have to like to.
Speaker 2: What does he wear? He wears like when it's casual,
Speaker 2: it's like a stunning Laura Piana.
Speaker 1: Like Keanna he is keeping the lights on over there
Speaker 1: at the piano store, and it's.
Speaker 2: Like what you said, like you know, at the farmer's market,
Speaker 2: a Stunningneker. Yeah, and like a beautiful again like Bruno
Speaker 2: Chanelli or like a Zenya pant Or. It's like a
Speaker 2: suit made by like a stunning tailor he met in
Speaker 2: search for Italy.
Speaker 1: And then how does he live? Like Okay, here's the question.
Speaker 1: What are the countertops? Are they? I think are they marble?
Speaker 1: I think it's marble. And I think his house is
Speaker 1: kind of dark. Okay, yes, for sure, it's like dark
Speaker 1: remanded colors. I mean his house like I feel like,
Speaker 1: does look like a boutiqu Kota and like there is
Speaker 1: a lot of like dark colors in the dark greens
Speaker 1: and like the black window panes.
Speaker 2: And he's always like making his cocktails like in a
Speaker 2: sidebar where there's so many espresso pods.
Speaker 1: However, I guess I'm like, marble countertops are harder to clean, and.
Speaker 2: I'm like, do you think he's doing something more simple
Speaker 2: because with the kids and like chopping.
Speaker 1: Like it would be so sexy if you had like
Speaker 1: butcher block countertops.
Speaker 2: But maybe he talks about being really jealous of David
Speaker 2: Beckham's outdoor kitchen, but he.
Speaker 1: Also has this massive outdoor kitchen with this crazy grill
Speaker 1: and like pizza ovens.
Speaker 2: I know, but he's like, it's not like backs. We
Speaker 2: always want something more yea, And I feel like it's
Speaker 2: like a navy blue velvet couch.
Speaker 1: I definitely think there's plenty of jewel tones in there.
Speaker 1: I think you're right about the darker hues. Okay, here's
Speaker 1: my question. How present is the ex wife framed black
Speaker 1: and white photos frame like on the cape?
Speaker 2: Well, because also it's like for the kids, well, I
Speaker 2: guess the older kids aren't really there. They're like trying
Speaker 2: to be makeup artists. Yeah, I think it's like one
Speaker 2: framed family photo with the ex wife not just.
Speaker 1: Wife solo, no solo dead wife.
Speaker 2: And then it's like some photos of them, and then
Speaker 2: I think it is like but.
Speaker 1: They're like I think there's like a bowl they got
Speaker 1: on a trip to Japan together that's prominently displayed and
Speaker 1: it's known. It's like no one says it's Kate's ball,
Speaker 1: but we all know it's.
Speaker 2: Kate's ball, and Felicity is of like, oh, I love
Speaker 2: Kate's bowl. You know, I love Kate's bowl. I think
Speaker 2: it's a low bed. I think it's glassy, medium low bed.
Speaker 1: I think it's medium low.
Speaker 2: He's sixty.
Speaker 1: But then I'm like, actually, maybe it's not even medium low.
Speaker 1: It actually may be high in a hotel way.
Speaker 2: And like just so many shit because also like British
Speaker 2: and British they don't do lost.
Speaker 1: They are like high beds over there, and they're like
Speaker 1: clutter out the who and like she's not so cluttered,
Speaker 1: but like she's little cutter.
Speaker 2: Might be a little cluttery, a lid agent agent. And
Speaker 2: there's books, pile, bridget shone stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think there's like their reception area where calling
Speaker 1: Furth is having martinis is free of chargers, but it's
Speaker 1: Charaguers Central. Once you're get into the bedroom.
Speaker 2: Well, and then there's like the whole part about like
Speaker 2: how much gadget and iguana. I think there's there's air fires.
Speaker 1: Right, there is so many fucking gadgets. Yeah, obviously there's
Speaker 1: mains that are putting the gadgets away, but then the
Speaker 1: gadgets are coming out, and there's charging pads and charging
Speaker 1: stations and like there's an iPod doc that's.
Speaker 2: So like Hotels iPad doc yeah, for recipes, and like
Speaker 2: I'm almost just at this point, I'm like, there's the
Speaker 2: Bows five disc. I mean there isn't, but it's so
Speaker 2: nose up in that house. And he's like, because.
Speaker 1: There's at one point where he's playing music off his phone.
Speaker 1: He's like, I played the Great American Songbook off my
Speaker 1: phone and put it in a cup to amplify it.
Speaker 1: I really need to get a speaker because he's so gadget.
Speaker 1: He's like, I need an amazing and then like Nicol
Speaker 1: Christmas idea.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like getting him a JBL and it's very parently.
Speaker 2: They're like getting him like the wrong speaker and no
Speaker 2: one can connect and it's yeah, so Christmas, I mean
Speaker 2: they're like, Okay, deconnect, Okay, try connecting again. Okay, who
Speaker 2: are you in the book?
Speaker 1: It's Christmas around the clock over there.
Speaker 2: I mean to me, I'm Stanley in your Felicity, and
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna be like, I guess I won't ask
Speaker 2: about like where.
Speaker 1: You weren't born to I mean, you're married to a
Speaker 1: little agent though you're a Wifelicity.
Speaker 2: Oh oh that she's more Felicity, but it is not
Speaker 2: involved in the who are you? No she is. No,
Speaker 2: It's like, well, that's why I feel like i'm standing
Speaker 2: because I'm like also married to a lit agent, right, and.
Speaker 1: You think I'm going on a trip and my husband's
Speaker 1: just been like, I guess I won't ask.
Speaker 2: Yeah, though, I guess you're also just like Harry's styles
Speaker 2: coming over for dinner.
Speaker 1: And I'm so nice and we love him. He's such
Speaker 1: a good friend.
Speaker 2: You're also just like Emily Blunt. You're getting together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think I'm.
Speaker 2: Emily, and you're like, I can't believe you didn't tell me.
Speaker 2: You're stopping my system. Ridiculous.
Speaker 1: I love going over that, And then I'm being like, oh,
Speaker 1: I think it's time for us to leave.
Speaker 2: Okay, and it's time just to end this episode. Dollars.
Speaker 2: I get this straight up, yeah, wild Garlic.
Speaker 1: I love a diary. I think it's so much more
Speaker 1: revealing than a traditional memoir.
Speaker 2: It is because if someone was writing a memoir, he
Speaker 2: wouldn't say felicity under coach scallops.
Speaker 1: No, you get that in diary.
Speaker 2: I'm giving this yeah for under non seared scallops.
Speaker 1: And it's quite inspiring.
Speaker 2: And and he's being honest. How he doesn't trust his
Speaker 2: own line of quickwear, and that's what you get in diary.
Speaker 1: I don't trust it either. It's all, yeah, seven hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: It's look really expensive. I mean I guess it should be,
Speaker 1: but I'm just like the world need another like non
Speaker 1: coded ceramic. And he knows that, Yeah, he knows. Sorry, Bye,
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