WEBVTT - Episode 395 - Diamondbacks Recap, Reds Preview 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:01.680 Yea one on one. You see a couple of them 0:00:01.720 --> 0:00:02.920 in My Taste with ye and. 0:00:03.000 --> 0:00:05.640 My lemonade because I let the way it tastes best 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:06.840 cease at the parents. 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:08.959 Can't he let me run the base? Yeah? My tame 0:00:09.119 --> 0:00:10.720 is like my money because I can't. 0:00:10.520 --> 0:00:13.520 Afford to waste. Oh why see is alloyer to my date? 0:00:13.680 --> 0:00:16.520 To my dates or to stick by the plate sending case? 0:00:16.680 --> 0:00:18.759 Have the case from my race at my pace. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:25.880 Claric grass a Snack Episode three ninety four of Bucco Banter, myself, 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:31.280 Adam Shore, Scott Moore, Jim Stam as always on your 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:36.280 mid week live episode. If you have any comments, concerns, questions, 0:00:36.360 --> 0:00:39.000 drop him in the comments below. Will be more than 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:42.520 happy to answer them. As this live streams on Facebook, 0:00:42.560 --> 0:00:44.520 YouTube and X. 0:00:45.960 --> 0:00:51.480 Boys. Not great, not great at all. 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:56.600 What we deem to be the most important homestand and 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.440 probably the last ten years ends. 0:00:59.280 --> 0:01:03.080 On a pretty low note in the CUB series. 0:01:03.080 --> 0:01:06.360 We'll talk about a little bit, but we've already discussed that. 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:09.080 We tried to move past it. We had the Wolf Game. 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:10.800 Shout out to everybody that showed up for the. 0:01:10.720 --> 0:01:12.520 Wolf Games Best Game of the Week. 0:01:12.840 --> 0:01:14.400 Best Game of the Week was the world. 0:01:15.360 --> 0:01:18.600 Fifty people around showed up to the rotunda and you, Howard, 0:01:18.640 --> 0:01:23.560 your faces off was incredible. It was worked, incredible, and 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:26.520 it worked. The power of the Wolf game is strong. 0:01:26.560 --> 0:01:29.720 The Buccos are two to zero Wolf games the rest 0:01:29.760 --> 0:01:32.320 of the series, and I'll go through it real quick 0:01:32.319 --> 0:01:34.959 before we get into a more in depth conversation because 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.920 I feel like this might go in a bunch of 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.440 different directions. Game two was maybe one of the sloppiest 0:01:41.440 --> 0:01:44.840 baseball games we've seen the Pirates play all year, up 0:01:44.920 --> 0:01:48.320 until the eighth and the ninth inning when they came back, 0:01:48.560 --> 0:01:52.480 and then you're like, Okay, the battling Bucos. This is 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:56.320 the offense that I've grown to love throughout the season, 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.520 where you never feel out of it. Down six runs, 0:01:59.600 --> 0:02:01.200 who can you can come back? 0:02:01.760 --> 0:02:02.560 Swing of a bat? 0:02:02.880 --> 0:02:05.360 Tie the ball game up didn't go their way. We'll 0:02:05.400 --> 0:02:10.679 discuss extra innings throughout this episode. And then what Scott 0:02:11.200 --> 0:02:13.520 rightfully so deemed to be the toughest game of the 0:02:13.560 --> 0:02:18.560 series proved to be true today on Wednesday, because you 0:02:18.760 --> 0:02:22.680 just got absolutely dealt on and the curse of facing 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:27.760 lefties in this twenty twenty six season continues. Boys, I 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:29.760 don't know if you saw this stat they are nine 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:34.360 and twenty three this year first left handed pitching, the 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.280 lowest in the league, nine and twenty three. So, Scott, 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:41.800 you mentioned Game three was gonna be the toughest, and 0:02:41.880 --> 0:02:44.160 it proved to be the toughest. What did you see today? 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:49.280 Yeah, a lot of uncompetitive and bets guys. They went 0:02:49.360 --> 0:02:49.880 righty heavy. 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.000 They brought up just Sincant Garcia to not to face 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:55.560 necessarily lefty, but to get another right hitd and bat 0:02:55.560 --> 0:02:59.040 in that lineup right into check. Maybe a change of 0:02:59.120 --> 0:03:02.840 scenery for everybody involved. Tyler Callaghen was getting cold. Send 0:03:02.960 --> 0:03:04.880 him down to Tripay. I didn't really have a qualm 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:07.079 with any of the moves made today. But at the 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:09.160 same time, this is what you brought in in Marcelo 0:03:09.280 --> 0:03:12.120 Zuna to do right is to face your left handed pitchers, 0:03:12.200 --> 0:03:14.760 especially these types of the guys, and he just hasn't 0:03:14.800 --> 0:03:19.320 really shown up this year in these instances for the 0:03:19.320 --> 0:03:22.240 most part. And yeah, it was really disappointing because the 0:03:22.240 --> 0:03:24.400 first two games in this series were against Meryl Kelly 0:03:24.400 --> 0:03:26.400 and Brandon Fought. Brandon Fought has been better since his 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:28.840 recall in Tune, but at the same time, Meryl Kelly 0:03:28.880 --> 0:03:29.240 has been one. 0:03:29.160 --> 0:03:30.920 Of the worst pitchers in baseball this year. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.800 And they were unable to do anything offensively or string 0:03:34.880 --> 0:03:38.920 together some runs together at all in either of these 0:03:38.920 --> 0:03:41.600 two games. Very low scoring on the offensive side. Kind 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.119 of disappointing for a team that ranks in the top 0:03:44.160 --> 0:03:46.960 five in a lot of offensive categories in the entire league. 0:03:49.360 --> 0:03:57.520 Jim, Yeah, well, yeah, disappointing, guys. I mean. 0:03:59.680 --> 0:04:02.920 Maybe some people think, hey, you know that that series 0:04:03.040 --> 0:04:06.360 was a player two away from us whinning it. I 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.560 felt like they could have easily gotten slept, Like in 0:04:10.600 --> 0:04:14.360 my the way I view those games, short of that 0:04:15.600 --> 0:04:19.640 spurt here in the eighth and ninth inning where they 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:22.440 came back and got the game high just they woke 0:04:22.520 --> 0:04:28.160 up just in time. You know, bats were sporadic, non 0:04:28.200 --> 0:04:29.679 exists in the final game. 0:04:30.640 --> 0:04:32.640 Defense was problematic. 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:35.560 I mean, that's something we've dealt with all year, and 0:04:36.880 --> 0:04:39.240 you know, they keep talking about trying to clean things up. 0:04:39.400 --> 0:04:43.400 But I was just really really kind. 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:47.680 Of disappointed in the showing against Look that the Cubs 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:51.000 are one thing the Diamondbacks. I felt like that was 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:54.000 a series we should have fared better and it should 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.920 have looked better and quite honestly, guys. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:58.960 Yeah, you get both teams and you're like, this is 0:04:59.040 --> 0:05:03.560 the Pirates are a better team, right, Like I'm saying 0:05:03.560 --> 0:05:03.839 that is. 0:05:03.960 --> 0:05:05.840 You know, we're a Pirate's podcast. 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:09.320 We covered the team, but from afar just looking at 0:05:09.320 --> 0:05:14.680 it as maybe from a journalistic standpoint, you probably take 0:05:14.720 --> 0:05:18.160 the Pirates squad over the Diamondback squad, right. 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:20.680 We said this in the Cleveland series too, Adam, and 0:05:20.920 --> 0:05:23.359 I don't think the difference was that Stark as Stark 0:05:23.440 --> 0:05:25.800 this series between the two clubs, like I would take 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.440 Arizona over Cleveland. But at the same time, I think 0:05:29.440 --> 0:05:32.360 this roster, when you line it up, you know, position 0:05:32.440 --> 0:05:37.120 by position, pitching against pitching, I would take our team 0:05:37.279 --> 0:05:40.080 nine times out of ten and just they didn't show up, 0:05:40.080 --> 0:05:42.560 and you're gonna have those series, right, But you'd hope 0:05:42.720 --> 0:05:45.800 in a in a homestand of this magnitude that they 0:05:45.800 --> 0:05:48.159 would have maybe showed up a little bit more. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:48.400 It was. 0:05:48.480 --> 0:05:50.000 It was quieter than I expected. 0:05:51.240 --> 0:05:53.479 I'm not I just don't know what they're gonna do 0:05:53.560 --> 0:05:58.400 against these lefties, because it's clearly clearly the Achilles heel. 0:05:58.400 --> 0:06:00.960 Of this offense. 0:06:01.240 --> 0:06:04.240 Right anytime, like I sat at that game today, the 0:06:04.240 --> 0:06:08.280 final game of the series, and they could not look 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.880 any more lifeless offensively. And I'm sitting there watching a 0:06:11.960 --> 0:06:16.200 guy in Eduardo Rodriguez, who I mean, his numbers are good. 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:19.800 It's not just against the Pirates, mind you, but sits 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.680 anywhere from eighty five to ninety two. 0:06:23.760 --> 0:06:27.040 You know, I don't think the fastball gets over ninety five, 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:29.880 he he, I don't think. 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:31.799 I don't think it did today. 0:06:31.839 --> 0:06:33.960 You know, he reaches back and gets it up in 0:06:34.000 --> 0:06:37.960 near ninety four occasionally, and they just they just couldn't 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.480 square him up at all. And anytime they had anything going, 0:06:41.960 --> 0:06:45.080 they hit into a couple of crucial double plays. And 0:06:45.800 --> 0:06:48.160 but you know, and I think the move when they 0:06:48.240 --> 0:06:50.839 got password up was a clear sign. 0:06:50.600 --> 0:06:52.760 That they know how problematic this is. 0:06:52.880 --> 0:06:55.719 Right, Like they were willing to get him up here 0:06:56.480 --> 0:06:59.360 just for today, if nothing else, to try to get 0:06:59.360 --> 0:07:01.039 his bat in a line line, to try to get 0:07:01.120 --> 0:07:06.920 something going. And yeah, you know, I know we're missing guys, 0:07:07.000 --> 0:07:11.360 but you know, Horwitz and Cruz or lefties. So I mean, 0:07:11.440 --> 0:07:14.360 like the righties just don't get it done when we 0:07:14.480 --> 0:07:15.800 face those types of pictures. 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:16.520 They just don't. 0:07:17.400 --> 0:07:23.000 Yeah, Marcelo Zuna is essentially a zero at this point, 0:07:23.040 --> 0:07:26.880 even against right handed or left handed pitchers. 0:07:27.160 --> 0:07:29.480 Right, it's just not getting the job done. 0:07:30.080 --> 0:07:34.440 And as Marilyn Valdez, who's been very, very good, it's 0:07:34.440 --> 0:07:36.520 starting to get figured out a little bit more. Right. 0:07:36.560 --> 0:07:38.400 It's not going to be like, hey, he's going to 0:07:38.400 --> 0:07:40.760 put the ball in play every single time. Right, he's 0:07:40.800 --> 0:07:44.040 still having good at bats where he's working counts and 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:47.800 he's not chasing, although some pretty bad chases and extra innings, 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.680 which I want to get into a little bit. 0:07:49.840 --> 0:07:53.280 But it makes you think about the trade deadline a 0:07:53.320 --> 0:07:54.240 little bit more. 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:59.680 Right, because if you get into the race, if you 0:07:59.680 --> 0:08:03.920 get it into the playoffs, is it just hey, let's 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:07.360 close it up. You're facing show to e Minaga, you're 0:08:07.400 --> 0:08:09.200 facing Edward Rodriguez. 0:08:09.280 --> 0:08:12.720 It's done. Good season, boys, that's all it takes. 0:08:13.120 --> 0:08:17.080 Right, So do you need to add some type of 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:20.240 platoon option or another bat that it just gives you 0:08:20.280 --> 0:08:23.600 a better opportunity to drive and runs here, because it's 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:27.200 something you just can't ignore. I'm obviously we're in July, 0:08:27.520 --> 0:08:28.680 we're going into August. 0:08:28.880 --> 0:08:30.440 You can't ignore anything anymore. 0:08:30.480 --> 0:08:33.199 But it was a little bit more excusable at the 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:36.120 beginning of the year, but it's just. 0:08:37.720 --> 0:08:40.199 It's bad you can't hit lefties. 0:08:40.679 --> 0:08:43.000 They are what they are, what they are. 0:08:43.280 --> 0:08:46.760 We know what this problem with this team is defense, uh, 0:08:47.160 --> 0:08:49.880 suspect against left handed pitching in the bullpen. 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.240 This is what this is what their deficiencies are. 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:54.240 I mean I already touch on this real quick. 0:08:54.640 --> 0:08:58.080 Griffin will be in the lineup, but are you when, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:02.040 like it might be late by then when Griffin gets 0:09:02.080 --> 0:09:03.200 back in the lineup. 0:09:02.880 --> 0:09:05.640 And Horwitz just suffered a set back. I mean he's 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:08.800 he's got a concussion cruise. I mean, they're ramping them up. 0:09:08.840 --> 0:09:12.360 He's gonna start baseball activities, but he's starting baseball activities. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:16.640 So yeah, and Griffin's halfway through this like at best, 0:09:17.000 --> 0:09:17.880 at best. 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:20.400 Yeah, I mean I just think every day is. 0:09:21.000 --> 0:09:24.000 You're you're you're losing an opportunity to You're that much 0:09:24.040 --> 0:09:25.040 further from contention. 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:28.720 So they can't really afford to waste any more days. 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:29.840 And they continue to do so. 0:09:29.880 --> 0:09:31.920 And you got a six game homestand winning two out 0:09:31.960 --> 0:09:34.920 of those games is not okay. And now you go 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:37.600 into Cincinnati and on a road trip, you're happy with 0:09:37.720 --> 0:09:40.920 taking the majority of the games, but like, I almost 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:42.600 feel like they have to go to Cincinnati and sweep, 0:09:42.600 --> 0:09:44.960 and I don't see that as a realistic option, right, 0:09:45.080 --> 0:09:47.520 Like you're gonna go up against the Chase Burns again, 0:09:48.040 --> 0:09:51.760 you're facing him on the on Sunday. You know, I 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:55.480 I do like their chances Againstrhet Louder tomorrow. 0:09:55.000 --> 0:09:55.160 But. 0:09:56.760 --> 0:09:59.160 Starting tomorrow, It's true, and I like their. 0:09:59.400 --> 0:10:00.000 I like their chance. 0:10:00.000 --> 0:10:01.920 This is against Merril Kelly and that didn't work out. 0:10:02.000 --> 0:10:05.840 So like they gotta start playing big dog. They gotta 0:10:05.840 --> 0:10:08.200 play above their competition here a little bit more. 0:10:08.840 --> 0:10:11.040 And they just haven't done that, and. 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.120 It's gonna cost them, guys, It's gonna cost them, and 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.199 they've got to make changes. Like August third is Monday. 0:10:17.040 --> 0:10:19.920 August third is Monday, that's the trade deadline, three pm 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:20.640 Eastern time. 0:10:20.760 --> 0:10:22.280 Like what are we waiting for? 0:10:22.400 --> 0:10:26.520 Let's if you're serious about contending this year, the n 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:30.800 L is as a gauntlet. This isn't the American League. 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:34.000 You're just you may cost yourself by waiting two extra 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.080 days to improve this team. 0:10:36.120 --> 0:10:43.080 Sure, yeah, you we've We're beaten the drum over and 0:10:43.120 --> 0:10:45.680 over and over again that you have to make moves 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.440 before August third in order just to stay afloat. And 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:53.040 then we were worried that if you don't stay afloat, 0:10:53.040 --> 0:10:56.240 if something like this happens, what happens to the narrative 0:10:56.480 --> 0:10:59.000 at the deadline. I really hope it doesn't change. I 0:10:59.000 --> 0:11:01.720 don't think it has yet. It hasn't gotten that bad 0:11:01.760 --> 0:11:05.000 because this team still shows that they can compete with 0:11:05.040 --> 0:11:07.160 the best of the best, that they can turn around 0:11:07.200 --> 0:11:10.320 a game at any point. The bullpen has been much better. 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:11.959 Can we at least acknowledge. 0:11:11.440 --> 0:11:14.920 That they had a good series against the Diamondbacks. 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:16.240 The bullpen's been better. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.559 Outside Isaac struggled, Isaac got sent down, but the. 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:23.120 Bullpen has been better. 0:11:23.840 --> 0:11:28.240 Marnaccio has been pretty good outside of the first start, right. 0:11:28.320 --> 0:11:31.079 Scott's pumped about that. We'll have an episode with him 0:11:31.080 --> 0:11:33.360 coming out. What tomorrow, Scott, We're. 0:11:33.200 --> 0:11:34.160 Gonna put on Friday? 0:11:34.240 --> 0:11:36.280 Yeah, depending, Yeah, Well, we'll put that out soon. And 0:11:36.600 --> 0:11:39.040 he was a fun conversation guys. He was He was great, 0:11:39.080 --> 0:11:41.760 and you know, maybe he can catch fire and regain 0:11:41.840 --> 0:11:43.840 some of that steam he had in the Yankees bullpen. 0:11:43.960 --> 0:11:48.040 But the bullpen was much better. I do think Hunter 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:50.240 Barco is an improvement over Brandon Eisert. 0:11:50.240 --> 0:11:50.560 I don't. 0:11:50.640 --> 0:11:52.280 I think a lot of people would be. So I'm 0:11:52.320 --> 0:11:54.760 not sold on Hunter Barco as a reliever. I thought 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:56.760 tomorrow would have been. It would have been a golden opportunity 0:11:56.800 --> 0:11:58.760 for him to start a game, even if you pitch 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:01.360 him three innings, use him in that role that you're 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:03.079 planning on using Johann Ramirez in. 0:12:03.480 --> 0:12:06.360 Well, let's let's talk about the pitching real quick, in 0:12:06.400 --> 0:12:09.160 the sense of guys, what do you are you okay 0:12:09.240 --> 0:12:13.240 with the use of Carmen Macjinsky in the final game 0:12:13.280 --> 0:12:16.920 of this Diamondback series when I think he came in. 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:19.640 I think Alex Stump put out that when he entered 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:24.720 the game, the Pirates had eleven point seven percent chance 0:12:24.800 --> 0:12:28.640 of winning that game. And then afterwards they come out 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:31.439 and they're saying they're gonna start Johann tomorrow. So obviously 0:12:31.480 --> 0:12:34.120 the question is is that a wise use? 0:12:35.080 --> 0:12:37.920 No, I mean, like listen, hindsight, like. 0:12:39.400 --> 0:12:41.920 If I'm in that position three to nothing, like I 0:12:42.080 --> 0:12:44.920 want to just, you know, stop the bleeding. 0:12:45.080 --> 0:12:46.640 I want to get someone out here that's going to 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:47.120 be reliable. 0:12:47.120 --> 0:12:48.680 And in Karmen Magensky, it is one of the guys 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.240 I would call upon, but they've used him as this 0:12:51.400 --> 0:12:54.360 multi inning guy after Jared a majority of the time, 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:57.120 and it just needs to stop now today. 0:12:57.160 --> 0:12:58.960 I'm like, it's a different situation. 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.960 I get it, So I I get the argument, but 0:13:02.160 --> 0:13:04.439 they need to utilize Carmen in different situations. 0:13:04.440 --> 0:13:06.439 They just need to The. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:10.000 Problem I find with it is we've kind of told 0:13:10.040 --> 0:13:13.200 this tale before, but in a different way where we've 0:13:13.240 --> 0:13:17.679 prevented the use of Mason Montgomery and others because of 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:20.800 looking out for the future, right and saying, okay, well 0:13:21.200 --> 0:13:23.240 down the road, hey, we're gonna need to preserve him 0:13:23.440 --> 0:13:28.320 for an important game on Friday. Got an important game today, right, 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.160 And I understand again wanting to stop the bleeding, But 0:13:31.840 --> 0:13:35.040 when you're also using that logic, it's like, all right, well, 0:13:34.880 --> 0:13:39.920 we do need a starter for tomorrow. We do need 0:13:40.200 --> 0:13:42.640 somebody to eat up a lot of innings tomorrow when 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:49.000 you have what could be a platoon of what Johan 0:13:49.320 --> 0:13:53.520 Noah Murdoch, Hunter Barco guys, yeah, and a lot of 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:56.880 new guys when you really trust Carmen, so hey, why 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.880 not say hey, we're using these other guys. I know 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:01.280 we've been taxed a little bit it because of the 0:14:01.320 --> 0:14:03.400 extra innings and what we've had to go through this series. 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:07.760 But we really wanted to conserve him for Thursday. It just, 0:14:07.880 --> 0:14:09.600 you know, no matter what way you look at it, 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:12.640 I don't think you win here, right because it's like, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:14.800 all right, we're up three to nothing. We don't want 0:14:14.800 --> 0:14:16.920 to go down anymore. We know our offense could get 0:14:17.000 --> 0:14:19.600 us back in this game. So say you put in 0:14:19.960 --> 0:14:22.200 Johann Ramirez and he walks a couple of guys, they 0:14:22.200 --> 0:14:24.880 give up runs. We're having a totally different conversation, which 0:14:24.920 --> 0:14:26.160 is just baseball generally. 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:29.560 But it is odd and it's fair. 0:14:29.600 --> 0:14:31.640 You have to look at it from both sides because 0:14:31.640 --> 0:14:35.160 we we do complain and people do complain about not 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:37.240 trying to win the game in front of you today. 0:14:38.440 --> 0:14:43.600 So you know that's fair Devil's advocate, Uh but yeah, 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:46.200 you know then that puts you in game one of 0:14:46.240 --> 0:14:49.520 this four game red series, go into a lot of 0:14:49.560 --> 0:14:54.880 guys that you know, who knows right, So. 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:56.800 You don't want to get off to a bad start 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.200 there either. Yeah, It's it's tough. It's tough. 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:05.119 They this roster has put them in a lot. 0:15:04.880 --> 0:15:07.560 Of tough spots. 0:15:08.440 --> 0:15:13.800 With depth positions defensively, things like that. 0:15:13.960 --> 0:15:20.000 It's just not a well enough built roster to get 0:15:20.040 --> 0:15:22.360 around some of this stuff unfortunately. 0:15:22.000 --> 0:15:23.360 Agree to one hundred percent, and I want to I 0:15:23.360 --> 0:15:26.080 want to revisit the conversation Adam brought up a little 0:15:26.080 --> 0:15:28.920 bit ago about buying versus selling, Like, I don't think 0:15:28.920 --> 0:15:32.400 there's any conversations within the Pirates front office about selling 0:15:32.640 --> 0:15:33.040 at all. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:33.880 I really don't. 0:15:33.920 --> 0:15:35.640 Like. This is a front office that is fighting for 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:39.600 their jobs at this point. You're seven years and you're 0:15:39.680 --> 0:15:45.200 the deadline is a weekend away. Like, they are absolutely buying. 0:15:45.760 --> 0:15:49.000 And to what degree that's going to be the next question. 0:15:49.400 --> 0:15:52.760 But they're absolutely buying. I'd put everything on it that 0:15:52.800 --> 0:15:57.920 they are. But my our whole argument the last month 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:01.040 or more has been you could have bought sooner and 0:16:01.080 --> 0:16:02.640 it doesn't have to be a closure because no one's 0:16:02.680 --> 0:16:05.320 going to give you a closer in June, right, But 0:16:05.640 --> 0:16:08.680 they could have done more to improve this roster earlier 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.640 and they're gonna suffer the consequences now, and. 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:13.840 They are anything can happen down the stretch man. 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:18.200 But yeah, it's it's just gonna be tough to look 0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:20.640 back on it at the end of the season and 0:16:21.000 --> 0:16:21.800 say what if? 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:22.200 Right? 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:23.680 For sure? 0:16:23.960 --> 0:16:27.680 Yeah, the only thing I'll add is I told you guys, 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:31.320 and I'll let our listeners hear this. But last night 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:35.120 I had a meeting with the MLB Fan Counsel and 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:38.320 we had Derek. Let me make sure I don't butcher 0:16:38.400 --> 0:16:43.440 olb right, Derek Fouby, who is the. 0:16:43.160 --> 0:16:46.400 Former Twins president of baseball and business operations. 0:16:47.000 --> 0:16:50.600 We had a big conversation with him, and it was fantastic, 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.720 by the way, guys like, I'll fill you guys in 0:16:52.760 --> 0:16:54.520 and I got tons of notes from it and whatnot. 0:16:55.120 --> 0:16:57.640 But we talked a good bit about the trade deadline 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.560 and how that comes together and what and he basically 0:17:01.680 --> 0:17:04.520 he was there for I think nine years and it 0:17:04.600 --> 0:17:07.320 was in Cleveland working his way up to theres too, 0:17:08.640 --> 0:17:12.320 could have been, but he's definitely he's got small market 0:17:12.359 --> 0:17:16.040 experience under his belt for sure. And the one thing 0:17:16.080 --> 0:17:17.800 that did stick out to me that he said that, 0:17:18.520 --> 0:17:20.760 you know, and people may not want to hear this, 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.359 you know, and we've even railed against this, and Scott, 0:17:24.400 --> 0:17:26.919 you just mentioned it with the fact of trying to 0:17:26.920 --> 0:17:30.400 get things done earlier than you know, two three weeks ago, 0:17:30.520 --> 0:17:34.879 and he said, as this has shifted and evolved, he said, 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:38.000 it's really, really, really difficult to. 0:17:37.920 --> 0:17:39.159 Get anything done with. 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.040 From a week at from a week out, you have chances, 0:17:44.720 --> 0:17:48.239 but before then you're just not seeing it. 0:17:48.280 --> 0:17:50.879 And that's kind of the way that's evolved over the years. 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:55.479 So you know, I thought that was an interesting nugget 0:17:55.480 --> 0:17:57.360 because we've pushed pretty hard. 0:17:57.600 --> 0:17:59.880 For them to do something two or three weeks ago. 0:18:00.080 --> 0:18:02.800 Maybe it's just not Maybe it's just not possible in 0:18:02.840 --> 0:18:04.400 the landscape of baseball now. 0:18:04.440 --> 0:18:07.480 So I know, like it's not possible to make a blockbuster, 0:18:07.600 --> 0:18:10.399 and like there's teams that have made decent sized traits. 0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:13.080 But like my whole thing was, hey, maybe Nike a 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:18.000 Rod may Nacho Mayonaccio type of signing in June, Like 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:21.640 Dennis Santana should have gone a long time ago, right, 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:25.320 And I love Dennis, loved what everything he contributed to 0:18:25.359 --> 0:18:29.399 this organization, had a very positive mindset every day, but 0:18:29.520 --> 0:18:31.160 like they ran him out. 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.240 There way too long, way too. 0:18:34.080 --> 0:18:36.280 Long, And those are the type of moves like you 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:38.760 brought in Dennis Santana in that way, right, Like he 0:18:38.840 --> 0:18:41.480 came off of the way for one exact thing, and 0:18:41.720 --> 0:18:43.840 you could have done something like that that could have 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:47.040 been a temporary not even a temporary, but a a 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:51.800 slight patch to the the obvious hole that you had. 0:18:51.680 --> 0:18:52.359 On this roster. 0:18:54.119 --> 0:18:55.200 Extremely obvious. 0:18:55.960 --> 0:19:00.560 Yeah, I mentioned guys like Dennis Santana, Johan Ram Mirrors. 0:19:01.480 --> 0:19:03.240 You know those two guys have in common. 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