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Speaker 1: make something right now? Uh me being a part of
Speaker 1: a group. I know how legendary it is to be
Speaker 1: a part of a group. I know how you know,
Speaker 1: uh strenuous it is. I know how tumultuous it is.
Speaker 1: And we're talking about one of the legendary groups of
Speaker 1: all time, one of a two man group. Man, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about I was Man, I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot that when I'm listening today. Joint I'm like, damn,
Speaker 1: they was wearing army fatigues before us. I was like,
Speaker 1: goddamn it got us. But these dudes lyrical, uh you
Speaker 1: you I'm listening today, bars and the things that they
Speaker 1: was talking about then it still applies to right now.
Speaker 1: When we talk about legends, were talking about icons. We
Speaker 1: talk about people who have stood the time, the test
Speaker 1: of time and stood here like legends, and we, goddamn it, got.
Speaker 2: To give them their flowers.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 1: I personally made the phone call. I was like, man,
Speaker 1: it's time for them, because I know we had them
Speaker 1: before as the book, but no, we need Smith and
Speaker 1: Western Tech and still the motherfucking Coco Brothers face to face,
Speaker 1: man and man to get them they flowers because they
Speaker 1: deserve it. He's a legendary, iconic group and we and
Speaker 1: drink chance. Yo, listen, I'm gonna be honest, bro. People
Speaker 1: you always say to me, you know you know you
Speaker 1: got me through a bed or or I caught a
Speaker 1: case for you. This whole week, I'm just listening to y'all.
Speaker 1: I felt like I was gonna at the case. I
Speaker 1: felt like I was listening to y'all shit, like holy shit,
Speaker 1: holy shit, because I couldn't. I didn't realize how advanced
Speaker 1: the music was back then and how because I guess
Speaker 1: it's easier to reach it now because how dumb the
Speaker 1: music is now. But was that something that you brothers
Speaker 1: was destined was designed to do? Excuse me, I mean.
Speaker 5: It.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna say it came easy because we was
Speaker 6: in military minded training from the get go, Like you said,
Speaker 6: the fatigues and the boot camp, right, I was my brother.
Speaker 2: Rest in peace. David passed away.
Speaker 6: He was a real drill sergeant, so so I said
Speaker 6: all of the fatigues because that was a part of
Speaker 6: our life for real. So even before the money for
Speaker 6: Thames and came, I was throughing combat boots right in
Speaker 6: a while, so our mind was already trained for that.
Speaker 3: Wow, you gotta think like we grew up at man,
Speaker 3: I'm from Brownsville, you know what I mean? Texts from
Speaker 3: Best Star like that's that's a that's a battle zone.
Speaker 3: You know, we grew up in these these these urban
Speaker 3: places and it's not it's before gentrification, like it's real,
Speaker 3: it's rough.
Speaker 2: So you learn a lot of stuff out there.
Speaker 3: So all that gets applied into your lyrics, and you know,
Speaker 3: we run around with Deceps, Salute my Decepticon, feem me out,
Speaker 3: you know flavor you know, yeah, that's that's that's and
Speaker 3: you know, big up to Black Moon too, because we
Speaker 3: was able to watch them work and we was in
Speaker 3: every studio session. Uh we was. We was at the interviews,
Speaker 3: We watched how they talk, and we learned a lot
Speaker 3: of stuff. So try to apply that.
Speaker 1: So, yeah, from yeah, from Brooklyn where there wasn't a
Speaker 1: dumb ball. No, that's the four Green.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's uh projects, No, it wasn't dumb.
Speaker 1: It wasn't. It was the cob Rolls.
Speaker 6: But once you if you got the Farragut and you
Speaker 6: survived them over there, then you he was official.
Speaker 1: You know, it's crazy. My boy, Troy Outlaw used to
Speaker 1: bring me the Farragut. He used to bring me the
Speaker 1: Fourth Green. My first fronts I've ever had was ab
Speaker 1: Square More. Obviously I didn't know I was walking through
Speaker 1: a war zone. Yeah, I didn't know. To I was older.
Speaker 1: They was like, little boy, you might have got killed,
Speaker 1: But I was like I was a child.
Speaker 2: So it's exciting though, like flour Street is crazy.
Speaker 1: Listen, I say, have about all exciting neighborhoods all like
Speaker 1: like poverty stricken neighborhoods. It's probably the funnest. It's probably
Speaker 1: the funniest place you could period.
Speaker 3: Yes, it's funny because I think I think I got
Speaker 3: my first goal to fit at.
Speaker 1: AT and queens the opposite. So look as were on that.
Speaker 1: I know you said earlier, but was that your tgic
Speaker 1: you guys wearing the army fatigus? I know you said
Speaker 1: your brother was in in the boy Was that something
Speaker 1: that you was was doing or was it the whole camp?
Speaker 6: I mean it kind of was that was that was
Speaker 6: like he said, being with de said, we was on
Speaker 6: the pleasant the bag wasn't there. We had no bread,
Speaker 6: go get dumb fresh. I mean I had guests with
Speaker 6: the pencil holder on the side of it, bugle boys joints.
Speaker 2: But the fatigue was the ocean Pacific you know.
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, I got old school. But the
Speaker 6: fatigues was the joint you could you could blend in
Speaker 6: and just stand you're down and dirty with it.
Speaker 1: What's y'all wearing forts out here in Miami? For what?
Speaker 1: What was doing that?
Speaker 2: It was tising?
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, I was into all that ship too.
Speaker 2: Into all the military ship because you know.
Speaker 1: It's funny. When I came out here and I see
Speaker 1: people wearing the goose, I was like, what's that's what
Speaker 1: we call f o t s? They got the town okay,
Speaker 1: because it's too hot for that ship, man, But you
Speaker 1: know what it was some locals that was had on
Speaker 1: the goose. Sure, so in high school it was cold
Speaker 1: as fucking school. So you're wear heavy ship to be
Speaker 1: in school. Did y'all ever think because like I like
Speaker 1: we were speaking about like Brooklyn was the no goal zone,
Speaker 1: all right. And when I say no goal zone, I
Speaker 1: mean like if you was a fly artist to town,
Speaker 1: that's not with it. They're not putting them downtown Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: They're not doing that. But now I'm listening to artists,
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, where you staying at? They're like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I'm over here at the Williamsburg and I'm like Williams
Speaker 1: Brooking and my day is like, no one wants to
Speaker 1: go to Williamsburg.
Speaker 6: Like in them days, Willimburg and Bush was that was
Speaker 6: that was dope central, right right, That's what it was
Speaker 6: over there, and gentrification came started cleaning up.
Speaker 7: And that's how when were you guys came early days
Speaker 7: DJ Raw and hood stock.
Speaker 2: I remember what this was exactly exactly. This is the
Speaker 2: Puerto Rican neighborhood. Yep, got Portrican is up out.
Speaker 1: Of here looking.
Speaker 3: It's nice and the it's nice always that's the place
Speaker 3: for green. It's still dangerous still, rob Yeah, yeah, they'll.
Speaker 2: Still catch you while you be fat. They're crack. Fact,
Speaker 2: they're cracking the hood.
Speaker 1: It's still cracking and the crack is lead because it's
Speaker 1: fensing on now. They up with that dangerous that's got
Speaker 1: me stopped doing Molly's and all. I think he was
Speaker 1: cracking around the little Molly here and there. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's all the go, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 2: They got defending on testers now and all that. If
Speaker 2: you got to go through all that, you.
Speaker 1: Gotta test your drugs, kid, nigga, like you can't. You
Speaker 1: can't trust your drunk trust you every time. To man,
Speaker 1: I'm good on it. So one one thing that.
Speaker 3: Saluted the raised too, by the way, my blood brother
Speaker 3: to man cool, my brother raised. Okay, you know he's
Speaker 3: he's always official. Okay, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: That jelly bean, that jelly bean today.
Speaker 1: Okay, this jelly bean, what the.
Speaker 2: Something? Someone want to try?
Speaker 3: You?
Speaker 2: Ain't you only no fending on test?
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, let let me just tell yall something when
Speaker 1: there's two. This is the best hip hop R and
Speaker 1: B collapse of all times, hands down. I'll bet my
Speaker 1: money on it. Hands this meet personally meat. No, no,
Speaker 1: he has a DJ too. It's all times R and
Speaker 1: B and hip hop collaborate. You set it up.
Speaker 3: Well, I told you.
Speaker 1: I told you.
Speaker 7: The third one from me is the Mary J. Blige
Speaker 7: Real Love Remix. I disagree with you. I think that's
Speaker 7: a good.
Speaker 2: I thought it was going to play the Mary and
Speaker 2: Meth shit all.
Speaker 1: I need that to well, no, no, but he's saying
Speaker 1: that it was an R and B record remix year.
Speaker 2: It's not an R and B record. That's what I
Speaker 2: was trying to say.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, remix record R and B. You
Speaker 1: didn't clash with hip hop as opposed to like I
Speaker 1: look at method mans all I need you're talking about, right,
Speaker 1: I look at that more of a hip hop record
Speaker 1: going to get an R and B because it was
Speaker 1: math the record, you know what I mean. But this,
Speaker 1: this was Mary record, and this was Jodas's record.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, it's all pumped behind all
Speaker 2: these remix you know, you know what's up about it.
Speaker 1: The whole time, I was saying, this is one of
Speaker 1: those records that Pop had nothing to do.
Speaker 3: With it, you.
Speaker 1: Know what it was. I wasn't to hearing what it
Speaker 1: was back then, so I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Was back then he kind of created that genre that.
Speaker 3: We had did a show with the Intrepid, you know,
Speaker 3: recipes to B I G Man. Mary was there that
Speaker 3: day as well. Right, Julia Mafia was on deck and
Speaker 3: we was I think we had just came from Black
Speaker 3: Moon video, so we had all camouflaged everything, but we
Speaker 3: had light lights and flask and helmets and we're backstage
Speaker 3: blowing it down. Julia Mafia and Buffers in the in
Speaker 3: the cut just watching. So it was time for us
Speaker 3: to go on and he's like, yo, man in the studio, Man,
Speaker 3: we try to come come through.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It was like, this is how does remix happen?
Speaker 3: So y'all was in the club, Holy Mon Intrepid Ship,
Speaker 3: so it was it was it was mass surreal, you know.
Speaker 3: And then we got in the studio, and he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, I don't I don't really get to see
Speaker 3: all of the crazy, tough stories. Give thanks for that,
Speaker 3: but the found Yeah, yeah, I mean we see his greatness.
Speaker 3: I appreciate him for Hollow and that's at that day.
Speaker 3: That's one of the biggest records everywhere we.
Speaker 2: Go in the world.
Speaker 1: Right here.
Speaker 3: When you heard that beat for the first time, she
Speaker 3: she she told us that was one of her favorite
Speaker 3: remixes that she ever did.
Speaker 1: But so so hold on, let me hear you out correctly.
Speaker 1: You're telling me that there's a chance that if you
Speaker 1: guys didn't go to that club that night and didn't.
Speaker 2: See record when I happened just like that, just like that,
Speaker 2: just like that.
Speaker 3: It was just like, you know, like he was like
Speaker 3: a genius, like a crazy genius is watching the play.
Speaker 1: So you're telling me the beat wasn't wasn't up when
Speaker 1: y'all came in, just basically vibed out when you got
Speaker 1: to the studio.
Speaker 3: I think that he had I think l was sitting
Speaker 3: in there. I don't think it was playing when we.
Speaker 1: When you say you're talking about but there's a lot of.
Speaker 8: Nigga, man, we was like, what nineteen, I said, Nigga,
Speaker 8: I won a hundred thousand.
Speaker 1: Nigga said, what I don't get sunning up twenty five?
Speaker 2: You got it? You got it.
Speaker 1: So you guys all right now is marrying the studio?
Speaker 3: No man then, because I can almost tell she wasn't.
Speaker 1: Yeah listening to it because you'll just sounds so clean.
Speaker 2: Now I was, it would have been too nervous.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean for the first time.
Speaker 6: Just well, last year we performed that ship for the
Speaker 6: first time at the Barclays with her.
Speaker 3: We're together on stage. Yeah, and brook that was that
Speaker 3: was that was huge. That was Milestone ship right there,
Speaker 3: the Energy show.
Speaker 1: That was her. Okay, So how do you get this
Speaker 1: call where y'all at.
Speaker 6: Oh man, I'm in the crib and I think Drew
Speaker 6: reached out to her, like, yo, somebody from Mary tem
Speaker 6: I want to know if y'all want to do the.
Speaker 2: Balclays with her?
Speaker 1: Like what what? What time you need to that's the question.
Speaker 2: God damn, we just rocked out, so no, hears was
Speaker 2: just straight on. God damn, y'all perform the record.
Speaker 6: I mean, we perform it, but this is the first
Speaker 6: time that we with her with her, yeah, right, you.
Speaker 2: Know that balklaship.
Speaker 6: They be like sound checked like four thirty in the afternoons,
Speaker 6: they'll be moving around doing other ship, right.
Speaker 3: So it was it was, it was. It was intimidating, though, bro,
Speaker 3: I ain't gonna lie. It was intimidating absolutely. Man, of
Speaker 3: course I love.
Speaker 1: I love.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, man, that's the queen.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: It's like, you know, don't act like that's like. I mean,
Speaker 3: you see dudes do it all the time. I see
Speaker 3: Jada and and and sees up there. I'm like all
Speaker 3: these guys, it's like clockwork with them.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I felt like I needed like mad water. You
Speaker 3: get that little right before the show, you get that
Speaker 3: little lightheaded this. I'm like, man, I started to walk away.
Speaker 3: My shorty was like, Yo, where you going. You need
Speaker 3: to be right here. We're like all relax, relaxed in
Speaker 3: minority relax. But it was amazing, man. It was beautiful.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: She was jamming with us. Man, her spirit is incredible.
Speaker 3: Record What year was that recorded?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: Nine six nine six?
Speaker 1: That was like five nine six because buff was on
Speaker 1: the run with the.
Speaker 2: Macause that's coming right out of uptown.
Speaker 1: That's what that named Queen hip hop bar being started
Speaker 1: coming from. You know, I always say both two years
Speaker 1: together because what I remember is back then we used
Speaker 1: to record a record and we had on what was
Speaker 1: it for the little Dwarfs rails and rails? You have
Speaker 1: to you have to you have to be a shape
Speaker 1: that have a rail. That shit was like fifty pounds.
Speaker 6: You're like this and you had to know your verse,
Speaker 6: believe it was real. Ain't no punch, No we want
Speaker 6: to take.
Speaker 3: That didn't change the d MX right, DMX broke that
Speaker 3: moll Really, I didn't know that when he dropped, like
Speaker 3: uh an album, like two albums in one year or
Speaker 3: some ship.
Speaker 2: Like that, I thought you meant the digital time frame,
Speaker 2: your time frames.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that year I think like for us, like
Speaker 3: Non six, after after all of that ship, it started
Speaker 3: getting crazy for us, like a lot of things start
Speaker 3: getting WOWD. So Non seven we might have been on
Speaker 3: WINU Yeah, nuts man. We didn't come back on saying
Speaker 3: to well No. Seven nine eight with the second album which.
Speaker 1: Was you know you said lost it with the name
Speaker 1: was hold onld On. I want to get, I want
Speaker 1: to want to.
Speaker 7: Get before we leave that record? Who produced that record?
Speaker 7: Do you remember the remix?
Speaker 1: The marriag nigga. I don't even know what ca.
Speaker 3: Yeah, whoever other, but there's me and him. You know,
Speaker 3: we got a camper gut. He had a camper producer.
Speaker 3: So it's no telling who really wasn't programmers but hip
Speaker 3: hop do that revolution? Yeah man, we was young man.
Speaker 3: We was wrapping our hoods blocks. We really believed ship.
Speaker 3: We were saying so. But like anybody said against anything
Speaker 3: that we was thinking, we looked at the enemies, right,
Speaker 3: that's crazy.
Speaker 1: But also we got component's gonna have to guess studio.
Speaker 1: Holy moly, guam y'all. Oh man, what happened now with
Speaker 1: Oh you want me to flip po.
Speaker 2: Damn? You got the best chair in us. You didn't
Speaker 2: have to do all that right now?
Speaker 1: Ambasket door Queen's ambassat door. I don't know. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be honest with you. When when when Compone, when we
Speaker 1: was calling Pons in jail, Then when I came home,
Speaker 1: I went to Capone's hood to find him. I can't
Speaker 1: find Copone. He had got into some ship. Right. I
Speaker 1: think the guy name is Pat Pool. I'm just crazy
Speaker 1: rite whatever. Yeah, well no, but not that Pat Pool.
Speaker 1: But so where I had to go see Capone was
Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. Compons and half of Brooklyn nigga. I used
Speaker 1: to have to go see this nigga in Brooklyn. Each
Speaker 1: other brother.
Speaker 2: Jerk Chicken today.
Speaker 1: Too far.
Speaker 3: We always seld that that's not Brooklyn loving me.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie to you. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: We had cane here the other day. We've been on
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Street, Brooklyn Street, and one thing about Brooklyn, Yo,
Speaker 1: let me just tell ya something, y'all. The most prideful
Speaker 1: people on special lens like beyond beyond New Yorkers, you know,
Speaker 1: New York, New York, like battle on New York in pride,
Speaker 1: and I think might win. Like everything. I'm looking at kid,
Speaker 1: and I'm looking at that special ad. They can't go
Speaker 1: against Brooklyn for you say, you say, they don't even
Speaker 1: say their name, they just say Brooklyn, Brooklyn. I remember
Speaker 1: at one point in life, I swear to God like
Speaker 1: ef N e FN discusses this a lot, and they
Speaker 1: say a lot of times how the South and people
Speaker 1: like kind of like, I don't want to say hate
Speaker 1: on New York, but they kind of was like, you know,
Speaker 1: New York and are arrogance. At one point, at one point.
Speaker 1: And I will admit this. I will admit this, at
Speaker 1: one point, no matter where I went, no matter where
Speaker 1: I went, if I wasn't rocking the crowd or the
Speaker 1: crowd wasn't rocking. At one point in my career, Brooklyn,
Speaker 1: I can say remember that.
Speaker 3: It worked too well. Yeah everywhere as well, by the way,
Speaker 3: and it's yeah, yeah, yeah, they're.
Speaker 1: Gonna just crack the rest of the crowd. They're like
Speaker 1: they are to ill, just be honest. And they got
Speaker 1: to make your belt off one of them niggas.
Speaker 4: You make your belt off Ja making belt lifted it
Speaker 4: out too half and half.
Speaker 1: To make you niggas.
Speaker 2: Holy sid I got Hi.
Speaker 1: I got that.
Speaker 2: Niggas got me Hi, Holy ship Holy.
Speaker 1: It is crazy making best.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that Jamaicing belt.
Speaker 1: I had Jamaica belt travel Fox and jumps told you
Speaker 1: the niggas that I was. I was also in for
Speaker 1: a minute.
Speaker 2: I than everything was flattening side.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I was in nicety the ways in the brown.
Speaker 1: That's our Brooklyn brother too.
Speaker 4: Flush I swim and Bessie had pool man, you gotta
Speaker 4: be a I swim past ship that's the pool.
Speaker 1: Literally Bessie had that body part.
Speaker 2: Laterally, Yeah that was kidney floating, and next.
Speaker 1: The whole body.
Speaker 2: And then what do y'all.
Speaker 1: Think about hip hop turning fifty years old?
Speaker 6: It's beautiful, man, It's something to celebrate.
Speaker 1: First of all, because.
Speaker 6: None of us in this room, right we'll be here,
Speaker 6: thought we will even see fifty. A lot of us
Speaker 6: didn't think we would make it to see sixteen, right
Speaker 6: twenty one. Now for the ship that keeps us moving
Speaker 6: around the world, our families fed and eight to be
Speaker 6: fifty and it's celebrated with your pears and accepted by
Speaker 6: your pears.
Speaker 1: Is it's incredible, man, Something to appreciate it? You need
Speaker 1: another fifty joints.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's it's it's a it's like a
Speaker 3: kicking the balls to the establishment, you know what I'm saying. Like,
Speaker 3: you got these ghetto kids, you know, most of them
Speaker 3: with no education, like no real formal education past high school,
Speaker 3: sometimes public school, sometimes you know, intermediate school. And they
Speaker 3: become millionaires, billionaires, owning companies, running companies, monguls, buying houses,
Speaker 3: expensive cars and they and you know, these people got
Speaker 3: to be like wow by that. You know, we come
Speaker 3: from Queensland, but brown's no projects. It got to be intimidating.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I mean, lookten we when you think about it,
Speaker 3: you give these people a chance. You give these young
Speaker 3: ghetto youths a chance. These men, women and children are
Speaker 3: chance and you can see some You'll see some great
Speaker 3: things being made. Well, I'm glad. I'm grateful to be
Speaker 3: a part of that story. That journey is incredible. Salute
Speaker 3: to all the pioneers and particularly the ones that we
Speaker 3: lost alone. This journey that kicked down doors for us
Speaker 3: to be able to sit at this table and talk
Speaker 3: some real ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, break Brad.
Speaker 1: We had we had we had two booklyn niggas on
Speaker 1: here recently, like we just said, we had a special
Speaker 1: ad and we had Kine. But Daddy Kane was like,
Speaker 1: word it up.
Speaker 2: I love those guys.
Speaker 1: He was like, word it up.
Speaker 2: Hip hop.
Speaker 3: Was like.
Speaker 1: Nobody to me, that's smoother than crazy hip hop is.
Speaker 1: I'm I'm hitting poem because I think he was going
Speaker 1: to the show. I think it was this time or
Speaker 1: maybe this was the day before. So I see a
Speaker 1: picture with you and him and I'm like, yo, like, oh,
Speaker 1: let me holler, and I hit you and then I
Speaker 1: hit Kane because I'm here picture you and I seen
Speaker 1: the picture of you and Kinge and know everybody like yo.
Speaker 1: But like I said, there's two different opinions that we
Speaker 1: just have recently, both from Brooklyn brothers. So I would
Speaker 1: like be all to split their opinion because Kane on
Speaker 1: one half, it's like, yo, as long as everyone's getting paid,
Speaker 1: as long as everyone's being seen, everyone is being beneficial
Speaker 1: to it, it's cool. Especially Had on the other hand.
Speaker 2: It was like fuck that establishment.
Speaker 1: Appropriated, was like funk that no one is they disrespecting
Speaker 1: the ogs. They putting the ogs on early.
Speaker 2: They're doing that. He had particular he had a particular
Speaker 2: all he knew. I think Kane said the same thing
Speaker 2: to know.
Speaker 1: King King said the only thing about the ogs, that's it.
Speaker 1: That's everything else here is kind of what Well, how
Speaker 1: do y'all feel like?
Speaker 2: That's a jerky one, right?
Speaker 3: I mean we've been through all types of versions, man Like,
Speaker 3: like we when we go out in the field, it's
Speaker 3: like we we sold up.
Speaker 2: Like we've been at the shows.
Speaker 3: We've been first, we've been last as headlining, we've been
Speaker 3: in the middle. We had our time cut, you know,
Speaker 3: we had to go longer, like you know, depending on
Speaker 3: the crowd we could turn up. I mean we've stood
Speaker 3: on type of top of scaffolds. We've been in a
Speaker 3: small cubby hole club. We've stood on tables, we've we've
Speaker 3: we've hoard ourselves for him. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: We will mutt it out. We smut it out, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So it's like sometimes we take
Speaker 3: our punches and specially like I think that it's like
Speaker 3: a fighter, Like the more fights you have, the more
Speaker 3: seasons you feel. I don'tly be tripping, not me personally,
Speaker 3: I don't be tripping. And I'm grateful to have a
Speaker 3: partner like Tech because we don't get into that.
Speaker 2: We don't be backstays like yo, man, what is this?
Speaker 2: What's this ship?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Like, just have what we need to have backstage and
Speaker 3: were good money. We're gonna go and perform like it's
Speaker 3: a like it's a stadium. Every time. We're gonna give
Speaker 3: you a show. Hopefully when we leave, you're gonna want
Speaker 3: to book us again. We're trying to take all the bags,
Speaker 3: like we're taking all bets, you know. I mean, we're
Speaker 3: not turning down no money and not saying like we
Speaker 3: we with anything. We just crumb snatching. But I think
Speaker 3: that just to have an opportunity to make money from
Speaker 3: something that you do for free, like we do this
Speaker 3: because we love it, right, that's what we're saying. Of
Speaker 3: course we can make money off We've seen that, we've
Speaker 3: shown improved that we can be entrepreneurs.
Speaker 2: So it's like I can hear what dudes right?
Speaker 3: Bad because when you deal with politics and you got
Speaker 3: all these different artists, man, it's a lot of us.
Speaker 2: Bro it's a lot.
Speaker 3: And everybody got like how homies say, we got some
Speaker 3: ship to say, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Everybody got some ship, you.
Speaker 1: Know what it is. I think this person had a
Speaker 1: lot of money that put the show together, and I
Speaker 1: think that he wanted they wanted to and what they
Speaker 1: were doing was like when they booked Trina.
Speaker 2: They thought that that covered the whole.
Speaker 3: South, so they dog Snoop b Waring and brung out
Speaker 3: too short.
Speaker 1: But in that person's mind who booked Snoop Dogg, they
Speaker 1: was thinking that takes care of the whole West Coast.
Speaker 1: And there's people like you know what I mean who
Speaker 1: can have their gripes. You know.
Speaker 3: That's why that's like Jam and his grapes like there
Speaker 3: was no one from was on.
Speaker 1: That that's going on in Atlanta, Like you know, like.
Speaker 4: It's no but who thought is that? That's their fault?
Speaker 4: That's that's their fault. That ain't now, faul that ain't
Speaker 4: you know, because you got to realize when hip hop started.
Speaker 1: So we're celeb like you because of the celebration.
Speaker 4: It is our baby, your baby, but everybody's involved.
Speaker 1: But this is our baby, right.
Speaker 2: I think each region should do their own.
Speaker 6: You can't be mad at another city because your promoters
Speaker 6: didn't come together and for the spot and bro artists did.
Speaker 3: Right, how are you talking about? I can see where
Speaker 3: guy's going. All right, we don't get the support because
Speaker 3: you're thinking about the sponsors, like these guys got this
Speaker 3: that the third so we're able to get the stadium
Speaker 3: and book it out and you know, I don't I
Speaker 3: don't forget about the you know you we do know
Speaker 3: it's a monopoly. We know that, and we know certain
Speaker 3: names we at the top of that top of that.
Speaker 3: That that wrong when when you're dealing with that monopoly,
Speaker 3: and I mean you got to hustle, man, it's no
Speaker 3: really way to say it.
Speaker 6: But that's everything in life though, right, that's it's like
Speaker 6: it's like not the country. It's like when you make
Speaker 6: bonds and this ship, like you you never know what
Speaker 6: that next person is. He could be the owner of
Speaker 6: the clubs. And once you're an artist and you you
Speaker 6: have a bond, you meeting that artist, that owner, you
Speaker 6: booking yourself there. You now you're wearing more hats, you're
Speaker 6: taking more control of your career. So it's it's really
Speaker 6: like you said, a hustling for us to get out there,
Speaker 6: and really you want to get it and live.
Speaker 4: It and you know it comes from fifty not to
Speaker 4: catch your wisdom. But that ship was like the stimulus
Speaker 4: check for for all hip hop artists because that's what
Speaker 4: everybody has made everybody hot. It made everybody everybody.
Speaker 1: It's positive and if you wasn't moving, if you ain't
Speaker 1: had emotion for that whole joint, you can't really expect
Speaker 1: to get a call just because it's like.
Speaker 2: There's too many artists that you can't include everybody.
Speaker 3: It's crazy, man, like you it what's crazy is that
Speaker 3: you can have you could have a different concert a
Speaker 3: month and not double book like it's that many artists
Speaker 3: like you could pull artists from and.
Speaker 1: You have you could and not cover everybody. You're still
Speaker 1: missing somebody.
Speaker 3: Would it be a dope joint? Though there's a lot
Speaker 3: of corny mon. This is the scared You can't just
Speaker 3: lead them out now. Well, yeah, hip hop we raised some,
Speaker 3: We raised some some some garbage spelled kids.
Speaker 1: For sure.
Speaker 4: Everybody got learn that like somebody likes somebody, but.
Speaker 2: Then I like it, that's what.
Speaker 3: But they get scary because you're gonna have somebody that's
Speaker 3: gonna be a gatekeeper of that.
Speaker 2: How we how do we how do we real dictate
Speaker 2: that ship?
Speaker 3: Or we just have cats just doing shows and everybody
Speaker 3: slap fifty year, fifty years, stamp on it and like
Speaker 3: that because it's somebody right now in the hood going yoh,
Speaker 3: rep in the hood fifty on Franklin Avenue.
Speaker 2: And we get the same ship with dream chance.
Speaker 1: People mad about who we have and who we don't
Speaker 1: have and knowing, understanding, seeing. But staying on that subject,
Speaker 1: I believe that we should celebrate every year like we should.
Speaker 1: It should be it should be a version of hip
Speaker 1: hop fifty one every single year. A lot of people
Speaker 1: blame massive pill. There's great people, and I believe Massive
Speaker 1: partnered up with with somebody like and so I don't
Speaker 1: believe that they was the blame. And again like you're
Speaker 1: just one concert.
Speaker 3: Them say at the end he wanted to do it
Speaker 3: every year or some ship when he was warmping off
Speaker 3: the stages like yeah, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going to do this like every year.
Speaker 1: Oh hell yeah, well that I remember.
Speaker 7: One of the things special that was really upset about
Speaker 7: was he's saying the ticket prices. He's saying it should
Speaker 7: have been a free concert. Artists get paid, but the
Speaker 7: people that go there should be.
Speaker 3: That was just heard that. I heard that. I heard
Speaker 3: that too. But that's arguable though, Like you can't say that. Man,
Speaker 3: Let's say it's.
Speaker 4: Still got your music for free prices fifty years.
Speaker 2: It's still money from somewhere.
Speaker 3: Everybody, Come on, look at that, Look at the stage,
Speaker 3: look at the setup, like you got to pay people,
Speaker 3: Like it's arguable, man, you gotta like even when you
Speaker 3: have vendors like we we actually did a show in
Speaker 3: oh man, I want to say it was Italy or
Speaker 3: Spain or something like that, and it was a free concert, right,
Speaker 3: it was a block party.
Speaker 1: It was it was.
Speaker 3: It was fantastic because it makes you feel like home.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, Like when you in Queensbridge
Speaker 3: and you like, you know the hood, is there everybody
Speaker 3: that's that don't normally get to go to the concerts?
Speaker 3: Is there some kind of way these guys found a
Speaker 3: way to pay for this? They got the they got
Speaker 3: the real stage, they got a real set up, drug dealers.
Speaker 9: But I got it.
Speaker 2: You always got to do.
Speaker 3: You always got some dudes pump faking in the hood
Speaker 3: talking about throwing money and doing all of that, like
Speaker 3: set up the concert like yo, salute, salute master p
Speaker 3: Like back in the days when they had the million
Speaker 3: Man March and in Harlem. He sponsored that. He put
Speaker 3: money up to get the stage. I don't know no
Speaker 3: other cats that did that. But he ain't want no
Speaker 3: credit for it.
Speaker 1: He ain't want that. He didn't want to.
Speaker 3: You know, everybody got to you know, uh, pump fake
Speaker 3: about what they got, what they spending, what they're breaking
Speaker 3: off or whatever. Sponsored something in the hood like you know,
Speaker 3: fifty centers another cat like this, something went back to
Speaker 3: Queens and then something Queens like that's the stories that
Speaker 3: we want to talk about fifty years later. We don't
Speaker 3: want to talk about your man the money was right.
Speaker 3: You know what's up with the promoter?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 3: Turn my sound up? Like we're still talking about that.
Speaker 3: I have to like, come on, son, like come on man,
Speaker 3: like I see I see big that he can't do
Speaker 3: a split the other day Gold come on, man, I.
Speaker 2: Was on the side. Yeah, ship, we're gonna be like.
Speaker 1: Side. We said, it's a lot of artists that's coming out.
Speaker 4: It's fifty years but they've been on the stage in
Speaker 4: twenty trying to perform.
Speaker 1: Rusty that's when they came your mother gotta show a
Speaker 1: week and Gen Wine they gotta show. They got the
Speaker 1: same crowd. I'm just me. I'm just the last he
Speaker 1: wanted to couldn't get up because because let's just be
Speaker 1: clear why we're speaking about toys, Big Up Drake and
Speaker 1: Big Up twenty one Savage, which is a phenomenal fucking tour.
Speaker 1: But other than Drake and twenty one Savage, who I
Speaker 1: don't considered Drake or twenty one Savage kind of knew anymore.
Speaker 1: I believe they hit that ten more. Maam, big them
Speaker 1: up and they towards phenomenal and they're doing it. But
Speaker 1: other than them, you know what's the craziest to us
Speaker 1: out there right now.
Speaker 2: It's not it's not the Whu tang.
Speaker 1: Like did you see it? Like that ship? Did you?
Speaker 1: You ain't get to see it yet.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 2: I was trying to get us on it.
Speaker 1: We're singing listen the crazy ship about it is. It's
Speaker 1: one show, so you would think.
Speaker 2: But it's not like that.
Speaker 1: It's like so, I mean, I went to the one
Speaker 1: in Paris. That was the only one I got.
Speaker 2: A chance go with.
Speaker 1: But I was sitting there. I thought I was late
Speaker 1: because I was like, what the fuck? Why is it
Speaker 1: like one? You know, I was on time, but it
Speaker 1: was like, why is it just one person? And then
Speaker 1: and I believe they did what's that ship? Nas?
Speaker 2: Nigga?
Speaker 1: Is the problem to the lights, camera, action, glamor glow.
Speaker 1: So I was like, all right, cool, it is way
Speaker 1: too early for ghost Face to come out. And then
Speaker 1: ghost Face and then came out. I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, they tricking me, like this is this? Is
Speaker 1: this the end of the show, and then disappears and
Speaker 1: I said, oh ship, And I'm like, oh, I switched
Speaker 1: in the crowd like oh ship. So it's one So
Speaker 1: it flows like a mixtape. You know what else is
Speaker 1: kicking ass out there.
Speaker 2: L L cool J.
Speaker 1: The Roots and the Roots.
Speaker 3: For something like any any tour with the Roots is
Speaker 3: gonna be smacked. The roots.
Speaker 2: Black is a hell of a performer man, A.
Speaker 1: Fifty talk kicking you know, fifty.
Speaker 5: Bunch of queens money.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you something came right now.
Speaker 1: Between between following Bufser, following fifty following fifty cent news
Speaker 1: Feed and smiff Star.
Speaker 2: I'm out there every night. I don't actually have to
Speaker 2: be what is going on right through you was.
Speaker 1: Going going on talking to them like I'm there. I'm like, yo,
Speaker 1: bab when your niggas do that ship.
Speaker 2: That was crazy crazy.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying is, and I'm gonna say this,
Speaker 1: and I know I said this on a couple of episodes,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say it again. Don't forget about Snoop
Speaker 1: warr G to st Yeah. So you know they told
Speaker 1: out there, they came in here, warran G came here too.
Speaker 1: So this is what I'm trying to tell you, young whipping snappers.
Speaker 1: And I know I said it, and I'm gonna repeat
Speaker 1: it again. Y'all out here talking about we old nits,
Speaker 1: you talk about we washed up. Let me tell you something.
Speaker 1: When Thanksgiving come around, little Whooper Snap, you ain't gonna
Speaker 1: want that little young girl that you just met the
Speaker 1: cook Thanksgiving dinner. You know who you're gonna want to
Speaker 1: cook that old mama. You don't want to stop baby,
Speaker 1: You gonna want somebody. They got some years in this game.
Speaker 1: So when you see brothers like us still looking good,
Speaker 1: still out here, like Buster said, look the parts, you
Speaker 1: young niggas salute us there. I prefer you wipe off
Speaker 1: my sneakers, but I'll get away. Do that, your little
Speaker 1: river snappers. But we out here living, God damn it.
Speaker 1: So and I see and I see actually was the
Speaker 1: one that blew that up. I see went to Twitter
Speaker 1: and he was actually, you know, he's a numbers guy.
Speaker 1: I know, you know about showing and proving the numbers
Speaker 1: like look look, look look at look at.
Speaker 2: The ol gs.
Speaker 1: And it's crazy because you know, that's why me and
Speaker 1: E f N started this show is because you know,
Speaker 1: no other genre in music has that word washed up,
Speaker 1: has that word over the head love the genre. Only
Speaker 1: hip hop. That's crazy.
Speaker 6: We was just talking amongst us, you know, Bill, and
Speaker 6: we tolding about it. It was an art who was it?
Speaker 6: Al was talking about retiring, and he was like, Yo,
Speaker 6: how do you retire from great? How can you retire
Speaker 6: from this? This is you eat ship, breathe that show
Speaker 6: you wake up to this, you go to this your
Speaker 6: heavy oc current, right, this is so there's no retiring that.
Speaker 1: Makes you want to retire.
Speaker 4: When they start calling you old and ship and they
Speaker 4: start doing that, that give you know what I'm saying it.
Speaker 1: Don't be the fans to be your peers, your peers,
Speaker 1: fans be peers and your fans because you know you
Speaker 1: got fans, you know, it's just like almost her name
Speaker 1: cy grow up fans. He said, I thought chances for
Speaker 1: retired niggas, I said. She also said something Miami was
Speaker 1: not Miami.
Speaker 3: But you know, you know what, you know what you
Speaker 3: remember you gotta remember it's like, you know, that's that
Speaker 3: that comes from the hood, right, that comes from like
Speaker 3: niggas sitting around ranking in and snapping on each other.
Speaker 2: So niggas be taking shots.
Speaker 3: But you know that's that's the only thing you can
Speaker 3: really say, like you know what I'm saying, And and
Speaker 3: and you think about like you you know the fact
Speaker 3: that you have cats that can work, right, And then
Speaker 3: I kind of lost my train to throw. I'm smoking
Speaker 3: this reef and ship. But it's it's it's, it's it's cats.
Speaker 3: I don't even I don't even want to talk about
Speaker 3: them like I want to. I like the fact that
Speaker 3: dudes are willing to still work, you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: because you got you got like you gotta gotta be real.
Speaker 3: You gotta be real. I don't want to blame the
Speaker 3: industry or blame the youth for blame the elders. Like
Speaker 3: we come from a place where niggas, ego and pride
Speaker 3: gets tested every day. So you gotta you gotta like,
Speaker 3: you gotta poke your chests out, you gotta say like
Speaker 3: you mean, you gotta do all these things authority, you
Speaker 3: gotta you gotta, you gotta do these declarations. Uh, we
Speaker 3: we have these unwritten rules and hip hop and casts
Speaker 3: getting barrassed fast, so you gotta stand like you know
Speaker 3: once you get like. That's why Sean Price is one
Speaker 3: of the best cats. To me, He's a guy who
Speaker 3: can really put hisself out. We call him like the
Speaker 3: Richard pryor the boot Camp click right. He could say
Speaker 3: some real ship and we be laughing, but it be real.
Speaker 3: It's like cracking joke and he'll you know, we can
Speaker 3: When you can face that, that's when you that's when
Speaker 3: the hip hop be the realist.
Speaker 2: Those are the casts that we love.
Speaker 3: That's why we love a twopart, That's why we love
Speaker 3: a biggie because these guys are really saying some real
Speaker 3: ship that we can identify with. Everybody can identify with
Speaker 3: that street life ship. Some cats like, we love a
Speaker 3: Note because he could put some words together like a motherfucker,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. And then y'all coming with
Speaker 3: the war report. It's like, man, this ship is like
Speaker 3: watching a movie, you know. So it's different than just
Speaker 3: like cats saying it's old, Like you put those tapes
Speaker 3: on today and you go on the journey. Still, that's
Speaker 3: a blessing.
Speaker 4: You take old motherfucking bumble bee and then you get
Speaker 4: the new Transformers almost yeah, yeah, reformed my niggaive Reform
Speaker 4: and that and hit about fifty shows reformed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, now that's real.
Speaker 1: What's aw smippers rider? What's on our rider's light?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 6: We got two bottles of Hennessey and bottle of terror
Speaker 6: mana probably something.
Speaker 1: Or what at the Hennessy tarror mana Tarra mana, We're
Speaker 1: gonna get you a check. We're gonna change make this
Speaker 1: you know on earth, God damn it. Ahead, but.
Speaker 3: Two sticks of deodorant, okay, also okay, of course clean
Speaker 3: towels and wash clubs.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think we got vegetable yellow.
Speaker 1: He picked out all the orange.
Speaker 2: Will really do that? Yeah, you got got swining.
Speaker 3: We got the Johanna incense in the back. Because sometimes
Speaker 3: the back days be funky.
Speaker 2: You gotta keep it. You gotta keep the smell good.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna get I'm gonna go right back to
Speaker 1: this hold on. You know what I asked, I said,
Speaker 1: I said, I said, I said, okay, this is something
Speaker 1: that been fucking me for my whole life almost and
Speaker 1: he goes, what's up? I go, biz Mark says, MiG
Speaker 1: daddy came. But Mike, my mellow, you know what the mike,
Speaker 1: because you know that was that was He's like, only
Speaker 1: you asked.
Speaker 10: Like that, liked he was like, he was like, yeah,
Speaker 10: that's the funny, like like but at those days times
Speaker 10: you couldn't have.
Speaker 3: You couldn't even be standing next to Jello in the store,
Speaker 3: like I know you ain't about to buy no jail
Speaker 3: that's not for me.
Speaker 1: So star Wars, Star Wars stop Skittles host his cakes.
Speaker 1: But what you what's on your right? The same thing? Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, we we're good man in trying to keep it.
Speaker 3: I do instance not not not the not about. I
Speaker 3: got a pack.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Someone stolen, someone stole my ever everyone. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think my kids. Yeah, I got weird as hell,
Speaker 1: go home and have to splain it to my wife.
Speaker 2: You got you were able to get it.
Speaker 1: Charlo made because remember we had a book that week.
Speaker 1: So I hit charlom bade the sold out. So I
Speaker 1: hit Charlomagne. I said, you give me your last and
Speaker 1: I had to say I said me least. I mean,
Speaker 1: I ain't want to you know, I didn't want to
Speaker 1: ask neutralize journalizing. We talk to a buster, what it
Speaker 1: smells like. I don't just saving it for her so
Speaker 1: when she walk in, she's gonna smell herself to get.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 1: Would have been lessen there, it would have been let
Speaker 1: no no wed ship.
Speaker 3: But we we we we try to keep it like
Speaker 3: when we when we do the long runs, we keep
Speaker 3: ship like ginger Lemon. Every day we try to stay
Speaker 3: teed up, you know what I mean? For the most part.
Speaker 3: Other than that, we keep it simple. We try to
Speaker 3: eat that nice restaurants. That's it, man. Yeah, and live
Speaker 3: in the culture.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to put some weird shipped on my rider,
Speaker 1: Like I want to go to Japan order to see Moss,
Speaker 1: to see them, just see them wild out. No, I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the I wanted from Doctor sav I wanted
Speaker 1: they're gonna bring you some.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you remember we.
Speaker 1: Went to Japan after l L and our rider was
Speaker 1: like phillies.
Speaker 2: She was so simple.
Speaker 1: They were like, oh my god, they don't wants to
Speaker 1: kill them. Niggas almost said he wanted pink roses, orange apples,
Speaker 1: like that orange apples, you know what I mean?
Speaker 3: Like so y'all not Hollywood, Nah, okay, plus like you
Speaker 3: know we again, man, when you from when you're from Brooklyn, man,
Speaker 3: like you like to keep it simple because if you
Speaker 3: if you if you request something that dude can't bring, man,
Speaker 3: you're gonna probably feel away.
Speaker 2: Alternative is gonna be.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: We've been in places where we'd be like all right,
Speaker 3: hennessy and they bring us something that's like.
Speaker 1: Some kind of grandma yeah or some others.
Speaker 3: We it gets it gets difficult for you though.
Speaker 2: It is a black man too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know we we we support rappers over here.
Speaker 1: And I think I think you're in Brooklyn, said.
Speaker 3: My man Jay, of course, and menth bleak, that's that's family. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: we got bleak coming Monday in Brooklyn. Flipp and I
Speaker 3: only drink most of time, says with Flip. With dollars.
Speaker 3: They always that, they always got you. I got the
Speaker 3: do I know you drink that other stuff. But with
Speaker 3: my brothers, man, shout out to.
Speaker 2: Them though, they gets you.
Speaker 1: Hennessy make everybody want to fight though. That's for years.
Speaker 2: So it's boke of Chica, man like, it's like Chica.
Speaker 1: That's the Dominican Republic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's when it gets low.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, bot got cheon't gotchee come out? Drake was possible?
Speaker 1: You got you got that. You got that ymber with
Speaker 1: the tablets in there. Let me let me get let
Speaker 1: me get one.
Speaker 3: With I like the fucking uh the parodise though, the
Speaker 3: Hennessy paradise.
Speaker 1: We remember we was overseas.
Speaker 4: That's like six bottles home because they had pard that
Speaker 4: was on our rider.
Speaker 1: It was giving us them ships. Man. No, no, no, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: the paradise. The paradise is loud at thirteen.
Speaker 2: No, we had the xole on the road.
Speaker 1: They put no, I.
Speaker 2: Ain't got can't let you get away with that paradise.
Speaker 1: That's twenty five hundred dollars. Yeah, we had if we
Speaker 1: did have it, we had it like where they didn't
Speaker 1: know it was that it was ye.
Speaker 4: Yeah, because for like nine dates we had the such
Speaker 4: a bottle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, because like certain places that you go, like even
Speaker 1: with Japanese whiskey, certain places you go and you'll be
Speaker 1: looking them. They be happening it for eighty dollars eight
Speaker 1: thousand somewhere else they be done.
Speaker 2: Dumb as fun. But I'll be on the hud for
Speaker 2: that ship the top.
Speaker 1: So if boot camp clicked, what's the goal against versus
Speaker 1: against Wu Tang clan?
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 1: What where is where? Where is this battle that happened?
Speaker 1: If this was to take place, it couldn't be because
Speaker 1: put y'all even it up. It would be your tool
Speaker 1: against ghost holy ship.
Speaker 2: Damn, that's dangerous agelous ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they gotta they gotta be in the middle of.
Speaker 11: The water, by the by the water because it's Brooklyn where.
Speaker 2: You got it.
Speaker 1: That's that.
Speaker 3: That would be like so that that would be, that
Speaker 3: would be Randall's all right, that would be like random
Speaker 3: all that. But that's you know, they got that ship
Speaker 3: that looked like a I don't know if it's an
Speaker 3: empty jail, but it's like you talking about the mansion.
Speaker 1: Right there when you come in with exactly.
Speaker 6: Govern that ship would be having things.
Speaker 2: I didn't go to the dipset.
Speaker 1: Locks.
Speaker 2: I can't make it.
Speaker 1: We had podcast here, but I tuned in obviously, and
Speaker 1: that was the most I've ever seen New York go
Speaker 1: back to New York. If New York was the a
Speaker 1: New York, if New York's ever go back to New
Speaker 1: York again, it would start from that versus.
Speaker 2: But that was one of the best.
Speaker 1: Can yes, who can't clip again against.
Speaker 2: That'll be that'll be? Yeah, those those are the bros man,
Speaker 2: But damn, what's up with the.
Speaker 1: Boot camp members?
Speaker 2: We just actually filmed a new video before get that.
Speaker 1: Let's stay on the verses.
Speaker 2: We get to that, yeah, asking who would win? How
Speaker 2: would it go?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 6: Yeah, Oh man, that's excitement right there, because I mean
Speaker 6: like a lot of army fatigues.
Speaker 1: For sure. That's like d C and.
Speaker 8: Mark fighting superhero villain.
Speaker 1: It's like you.
Speaker 6: Got the counterpart for that.
Speaker 2: So that is not that'll be insane shot.
Speaker 3: What's crazy is that that's we're talking about like chess
Speaker 3: chest boxing.
Speaker 2: That'll be a back like that.
Speaker 3: I mean literally just playing like the heads right you're
Speaker 3: playing and like everybody playing their.
Speaker 1: Hits and it's twenty Just think of a honey money
Speaker 1: between y'all. That's twenty joint. Yeah, and we got joints
Speaker 1: with Ray though. You know what's fucked up? Y'all? Would
Speaker 1: y'all would be going y'all be going crazy trying to
Speaker 1: pick twenty joints. That'd be argument in itself.
Speaker 3: We came when we came here, he was playing some
Speaker 3: ship that we ain't playing properly. Yeah, got about that album?
Speaker 3: Was that the way? That was the album?
Speaker 2: The album where and we made that in But is.
Speaker 1: That something y'all would y'all would pursue? If Swiss called
Speaker 1: y'all tomorrow, let's let's get it. I'm kind of tell
Speaker 1: he ain't never call us for a versus, So y'all
Speaker 1: would want to do Smith and Western.
Speaker 3: We're gonna do it. I ever come back and down
Speaker 3: for no fight. I'm not really with that ship though.
Speaker 3: I don't really like that, but you know, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's all for the entertainment.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: This is what is the name of the game, right,
Speaker 2: it's entertainment.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what I'm saying. You know, I don't like the
Speaker 1: fact that they celebration and make it more celebration. I
Speaker 1: didn't like the like the Rosters was really one who
Speaker 1: who took it there?
Speaker 2: Remember when they.
Speaker 1: And he took man, he took his He's like start riding.
Speaker 1: That was like everyone saying, man, from here on out,
Speaker 1: taking it to ball, we take the ball. You want
Speaker 1: to be that guy.
Speaker 3: It's it's a line sometimes a moment for hip hop,
Speaker 3: but then it's like damn man, it's like don't don't
Speaker 3: don't goofy it out, like you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: It's like like some people, I get the part where
Speaker 3: the politics where some artists were like, no, I'm not
Speaker 3: going to go against this person because I'm going to
Speaker 3: give them like credibility like that. But I believe that
Speaker 3: that's what hip hop should be doing. Like y'all said, mop, yeah,
Speaker 3: like see that that would be ridiculous, Like Brooklyn, you
Speaker 3: need a big spot for that.
Speaker 2: That would be at the Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Or the Navy Yard to the Navy y.
Speaker 2: We tried to do that like an undercard. Really, now
Speaker 2: you're not an undercar, sir.
Speaker 1: That's the reason why you worked y'all the headliners that
Speaker 1: whoever that y'all headliners, y'all got hit. I'm sorry you cannot,
Speaker 1: but that would be dope for Brooklyn. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: that'd be instead Brooklyn. It wouldn't be nobody else in
Speaker 1: the concert but Brooklyn. Yes, no, no queens, yeah, Brooklyn.
Speaker 1: Because you know why, I'm being honest, it's that timeline.
Speaker 1: Like that's the beauty about listening to y'all music is
Speaker 1: so timeless, but yet still if you re that error,
Speaker 1: if you live in that era, I just go back.
Speaker 1: I just go back to to my TEMs. I go
Speaker 1: on back to you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: Like, what's better for you making it then or performing it?
Speaker 2: That's my question. Bro yea.
Speaker 1: Wait, wait, come to tell the truth, making it then?
Speaker 1: I would pick making it then, because making it then.
Speaker 1: I think we kind of touched on this earlier, was
Speaker 1: like I love analog because I couldn't send you a
Speaker 1: record back in the day. Remember when you were talking about
Speaker 1: them rails like I would have to go to D
Speaker 1: and D told me to Unique studios, or go to
Speaker 1: write track or so on and so on.
Speaker 2: What is it?
Speaker 1: What was the ship that pot got shot in? We
Speaker 1: would have to go physically and sit down and be together.
Speaker 2: This wie.
Speaker 1: That music from the nineties sounds so organic and it's like, you.
Speaker 2: Know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's why if you noticed one of my persons
Speaker 1: questions was was y' all married together? Because it felt
Speaker 1: like that even though it wasn't. But yeah, send the record.
Speaker 1: You still have to record that ship at the studio.
Speaker 1: And when you listen to music like that, it's timeless,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So like when I have
Speaker 1: to answer your question, it's probably recording it because.
Speaker 6: Like I was like, oh, ship, that's the creation part
Speaker 6: of it right there.
Speaker 1: And I definitely didn't know how to perform like I
Speaker 1: had to. I believe we taught us performing, and I
Speaker 1: believe one of our like this was like a like
Speaker 1: a tenth time like we had already did inn r e.
Speaker 1: I already did, but now it's like time to perform, perform, perform,
Speaker 1: And we had so many records that didn't have uh
Speaker 1: TV tracks. Yeah, yeah, yeah, oh soon as we got
Speaker 1: up stage, there was a nice show, but you timed over.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, so we had to, like we
Speaker 1: go somethack instrument because they just didn't. I'm leaving instrumental
Speaker 1: does not exist. Go ahead trying he tried it. It
Speaker 1: does not exist. Did y'all have problems like that? Well,
Speaker 1: yeah we had to, we had to go.
Speaker 6: But you know who taught us, uh, our big brother
Speaker 6: Buckshot was the king of his self editing himself like
Speaker 6: you know, at one time nice instead of all the
Speaker 6: reversed in the curse words or the buck would just
Speaker 6: going in write a whole new verse. So that became
Speaker 6: the norm for us.
Speaker 1: Wait, that's talk about about I want to understand what
Speaker 1: you're trying to say. You're saying that instead of going
Speaker 1: in and doing a clean version for the radio of
Speaker 1: reversion that sad or that word, he would go in
Speaker 1: and write, I would.
Speaker 2: Throw in and write a whole new dim in two
Speaker 2: three verses.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a different time.
Speaker 2: That's how I got you.
Speaker 6: Open remixes came because those words was heavy curse workers
Speaker 6: and then once the radio was calling for it.
Speaker 2: But there was no clean version.
Speaker 6: We're going in Calliope, sleep under the piano covers and
Speaker 6: bucke in there cleaning the chef up.
Speaker 1: Got that. Our show it's about giving people their flowers.
Speaker 1: I personally, me and FN we personally wanted to give you.
Speaker 1: You got your flowers to your face, y'all. Dudes are legends,
Speaker 1: y'all icons. You want to literally give y'all flowers? You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Oh, Ship, that's right, you got
Speaker 1: all right. He's Dominicans, He's Dominicans speaking. Yeah, So Snoop said,
Speaker 1: it's better than you got the legends. Man, you guys
Speaker 1: are real ones. Like I know, I know you, both
Speaker 1: of you guys.
Speaker 2: Personally text Smoky Live. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So, man, do you guys know how for you guys
Speaker 1: are the hip hop.
Speaker 2: We're still in this, you know, one for the one
Speaker 2: out man.
Speaker 3: We got a lot of family, man, and a lot
Speaker 3: of things that we responsible for sometime. We I mean
Speaker 3: we you know, we gave reminded every now and again
Speaker 3: it's and it's good to not let it go to
Speaker 3: your head. I think that's one thing that kind of
Speaker 3: keep us grounded. After the show, you know what it is,
Speaker 3: we go right back home, go back home. We got
Speaker 3: to deal with the hood. I live in Brooklyn still,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: I like it. I love New York.
Speaker 3: Well I would love to get up out of there
Speaker 3: too every now and again.
Speaker 2: But well, you know.
Speaker 1: I want to tell you it's good to stay grounded,
Speaker 1: but it's also great to know who exactly who you are. Yes,
Speaker 1: you guys are motherfucking legends, and you guys are art coms.
Speaker 1: But y'all did to the music industry cannot be you know, faked.
Speaker 1: It cannot be copied, cannot be imitated. Man, I just was,
Speaker 1: like I said, man, like I said, I was looking
Speaker 1: at poone Gramm. I've seen him, and I was just
Speaker 1: like yo, I just locked in immediately, and I just
Speaker 1: was studying y'all and I was like, holy shit, like
Speaker 1: y'all are really really true MC's. And by the way,
Speaker 1: you know, I missed I missed the Caribbean, like you know,
Speaker 1: the Caribbean influence.
Speaker 2: In hip hop, you know what I mean, not like that,
Speaker 2: not like yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's going all the way Caribbean, Like it's not
Speaker 4: like extreme, but Afro.
Speaker 1: Beats is winning that Mexic Are you as.
Speaker 6: I do rock with some Apple beats, some records, don't ask.
Speaker 3: Me a yeah, you know, yeah, you gotta know.
Speaker 1: What's going on now.
Speaker 3: You got to think like Brooklyn back in the days,
Speaker 3: like we grew up in hoockey parties, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, So hockey parties most of the time. The
Speaker 3: dopest ship was the reggae songs. That's when you get
Speaker 3: on Shorty and them, you know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that was a fight really, but the reggae joints was
Speaker 3: like yeah, baby, especially you were flat bood, so you
Speaker 3: know what it is, like you want to a party
Speaker 3: over there?
Speaker 2: It's lit. So we grew up in multi cultural you know,
Speaker 2: it was it was.
Speaker 3: It was crazy because in the hood, you was like
Speaker 3: it was pretty diverse, right, you know, and we blended in.
Speaker 1: That was something that I noticed with y'all music early.
Speaker 1: It was like, you know, they had the dance hall,
Speaker 1: which was like like like ship that that you know, Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. They had a hard call reggae like you know,
Speaker 1: and then that's what y'all kind of like embracing y'all,
Speaker 1: Like like I said, I walked in it was like
Speaker 1: I was telling like some boy burial and bodies.
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah, that's going the sound class that
Speaker 3: boy burial.
Speaker 6: We left up and got that really man, because heal
Speaker 6: the skelter random and they turned that beat.
Speaker 1: Down and they didn't want that absoluted.
Speaker 2: Mister got that stat such a classic.
Speaker 1: It's a couple of.
Speaker 6: Ain't about one or two more joints from shining. That
Speaker 6: was like that, Oh yeah, we got thrown to the lions.
Speaker 6: Then after Bucket and them put they they were so
Speaker 6: beat Minus was feeling themselves.
Speaker 1: Then we like, yeah, mister mister Wall took care of us. Man.
Speaker 3: It was like you gotta think because Evil D is
Speaker 3: part of Black Move so he don't really got you based, No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: No, absolutely not absolutely.
Speaker 3: I think we was blessed because we got to work
Speaker 3: with mister Walt, who is the tutor of Evil D.
Speaker 3: Know what I'm saying. So we went to the foundation.
Speaker 3: So it's like mister Walker basically walked us through and
Speaker 3: we wasn't those those fresh cats off the bench like
Speaker 3: feeling ourselves. We was able to receive the instructions from him.
Speaker 3: We pretty much did what he told us to do.
Speaker 3: You didn't have no ideas about going to the studio.
Speaker 3: I mean we did studio lights, studio stuff before, but
Speaker 3: he walked us through it. This mister wall you know
Speaker 3: what hes talking about. He got records from smoking the crib.
Speaker 2: That's the only day.
Speaker 6: Couldn't smoking at the park when it's wintertime and roll
Speaker 6: up smoke our soul.
Speaker 3: But that's discipline, right because you know we street cats.
Speaker 2: But his mom's in the crib.
Speaker 3: So you mean telling me you don't respect dudes moms
Speaker 3: because you want some hip hop shiuse right now, you
Speaker 3: don't want nobody in your crib.
Speaker 1: You don't want to know.
Speaker 3: You ain't even certain cats. You can't let them know
Speaker 3: where you live at. You don't want to tell me
Speaker 3: the setup in the crib. We got to meet him
Speaker 3: in the neutral zone somewhere, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: Like crib when mom's in the crib Yetnaw, we're not
Speaker 3: doing that with wife being the crib Like na, y'all
Speaker 3: niggas is too wow. I was thinking about that the
Speaker 3: other day because I used to violate my crib. I
Speaker 3: had like the setup in my crib. We go all night.
Speaker 3: I'm like, damn, I'm like Damn I was. That was
Speaker 3: that was kind of recording set up, like just making
Speaker 3: demos though, like not even like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 3: like this is rude, Like niggas was having it. I'm like, damn,
Speaker 3: I was apologize to everybody. God man, Christy, I was like,
Speaker 3: so hip hop, man, when you tune then you tuned in.
Speaker 3: That's what it make it?
Speaker 1: Do you know?
Speaker 2: That's the problem, Like you gotta like get in there.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You could tell when the cat is level, like when
Speaker 3: you're talking about King, like you could tell he is
Speaker 3: enjoying it, you know, master age, you could tell he's
Speaker 3: a joying. Like these guys are still traveling. We still
Speaker 3: got places that we haven't been yet. So it's like
Speaker 3: you gotta look forward to it and get ready for
Speaker 3: the get ready for the grind. Hip hop allows you
Speaker 3: to do that. Man, big that's a big that's a
Speaker 3: big award right there.
Speaker 1: But love it.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 1: What, what's one of the craziest places you performed.
Speaker 2: At Barclays We're married.
Speaker 6: That was the craziest, right, Yeah, that was that was
Speaker 6: that was monuments because that was the first time that
Speaker 6: was the first time performing with her and first time
Speaker 6: performing in the Barclays really, so.
Speaker 3: It wasn't we just didn't know we had. We just
Speaker 3: did the super Cat that was the next John. We
Speaker 3: did Supercat first. That performed with super Kid super super
Speaker 3: Cat on there.
Speaker 1: That was different. Super one of the others that was different.
Speaker 3: But we also I feel like I feel like we
Speaker 3: was there one time when there was some hip hop
Speaker 3: ship going on. I forgot who was on stage. It
Speaker 3: was a bunch of hip hop cats there. I think
Speaker 3: we was on stay. I feel like m O P
Speaker 3: Was up there and perform. I don't know if we performed.
Speaker 3: We just got up on stage with him. But that
Speaker 3: was that was that was That was the monumental show
Speaker 3: because it was like we get to take that show
Speaker 3: around the world.
Speaker 2: People love that ship, you know what I mean. It's
Speaker 2: like you say, like.
Speaker 3: People, you bring an experience when you when you're able
Speaker 3: to perform. True say, the process of recording is dope
Speaker 3: because you watching that's like raising a baby.
Speaker 2: That's your baby. You falling in love with that ship.
Speaker 1: The process is and creating something out of nothing, out
Speaker 1: of nothing, talk about it. So I'll flip the balance
Speaker 1: in a question on you, what do you prefer more
Speaker 1: making the record or performing a record.
Speaker 3: I think it's a I think I mean it's it's
Speaker 3: it's it's it's for me. It's a balance, it's a
Speaker 3: year in the yang, it's a it's a total completion
Speaker 3: because you don't want to make I'm not a ghost writer,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: I like to write and I like to see it.
Speaker 2: I like to see it through.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: You know, when you fit, when you get in the
Speaker 3: game and you see, that's how you see if it
Speaker 3: works or not. You know, I believe in dreams, but
Speaker 3: I believe in working to make him come true. So
Speaker 3: it's times when you get on that stage man, and
Speaker 3: you're looking at people and it's like, man, these people
Speaker 3: love you.
Speaker 2: Man, that's mind blowing. That's some crazy shit right there.
Speaker 1: You fit.
Speaker 3: Like just last week, I wasn't Brooklyn in the crib
Speaker 3: drinking some honey, like feeling kind of down and ship.
Speaker 3: Now I'm out here and it's like five thousand people,
Speaker 3: ten thousand people and they.
Speaker 2: Jamming man, women and child.
Speaker 3: Though I know this little dude wasn't out when when
Speaker 3: I dropped my house.
Speaker 1: He wasn't.
Speaker 2: He's you know what I'm saying, This kid like eleven
Speaker 2: years old.
Speaker 1: In front row. You know what I'm saying, You know
Speaker 1: the word.
Speaker 3: He's like this and on the shoulder like yeah, you
Speaker 3: with it. I'm like, that's what hip hop is.
Speaker 1: They never thought they would see you in person. So
Speaker 1: that's like, but then we'll do something crazy like what
Speaker 1: you know? How about this? Like what tech a dude?
Speaker 1: Like yo yo, come he in a little homie, come on.
Speaker 2: Stage, come up here. Now you experience a hip hop.
Speaker 3: Your pops brought you to the concert, and like it's generations.
Speaker 2: The whole, So that means it's introduced, you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So this eleven year old gonna gonna keep hip hopp
Speaker 3: in his heart and in the spirit for another what ten, fifteen,
Speaker 3: twenty thirty, Yeah, playing planing. See when we was eight
Speaker 3: years old, we was listening to you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: grand Master Flash, and then they took them out the
Speaker 3: message we were and then here we are like this at
Speaker 3: the round table at the square table building. That's that's fabulous, guys.
Speaker 3: Growth and development man.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, so you ready for quick time slot. Let's go. Okay,
Speaker 1: you want to play playing them the rules? We didn't do.
Speaker 1: This is the first time they was here. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: doubt yeah, yeah, all right, so this is a drinking game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're gonna give you two choices. You pick one. Nobody drinks.
Speaker 7: But if you say both or neither, we all drink.
Speaker 7: We all take a shot both or drink like if
Speaker 7: you politically correct, if you if you don't pick were drinking.
Speaker 1: Everybody, every we were drinking with you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is how we get fucked up to what.
Speaker 1: You want to come and be designated.
Speaker 7: You gotta gotta drink from guys, Come on, healthy, healthy thug.
Speaker 1: Right now, did you steal my shirt?
Speaker 2: The good? Bad? What's the what?
Speaker 11: What?
Speaker 3: What?
Speaker 2: Just little shots? Didn't crazy? Is it specific? Is a
Speaker 2: specific drink drinking? And we don't take a small shot
Speaker 2: because small?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 7: All right, we got you got last hold on you
Speaker 7: got a shot glass hold.
Speaker 1: Drink broa.
Speaker 2: Yeah he said he got that. Dou say over there man.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah we get a yeah yeah yeah yeah, please
Speaker 1: get that on camera.
Speaker 2: We're gonna get you to all right, ready yeah you.
Speaker 1: Ready, Yeah, I got lot that Halsh is killing it here.
Speaker 1: But it's it's the diamonds, it's not the hash.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is good.
Speaker 1: Let me everybody for him now that ye yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: hold on, Jamie, you can disrespect him for me, Like
Speaker 1: I said, could be baby shot like a baby shot
Speaker 1: like it was me. It was me. Are you ready?
Speaker 2: This is something?
Speaker 1: There's some straight Brooklyn Ship right here, by the way.
Speaker 1: This is the two people who make up the rule.
Speaker 1: That's the Dominican right there in the Columbia right there.
Speaker 2: So they analyze.
Speaker 12: Y'all got these questions because it's a lot of shots.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take this.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, she poured it for your ready. Okay, you ready,
Speaker 1: you're gonna do a number one on this? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Are you ready? The moment of truth?
Speaker 1: All right? But let them let him.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with you first. Yeah, that's what up. People.
Speaker 2: We don't write this.
Speaker 1: They write it over there.
Speaker 2: We's got nothing to do. This is funny.
Speaker 1: This vote for both for y'all that jay Z or
Speaker 1: Big Daddy King mmm.
Speaker 2: And it's whatever criteria, whatever you want.
Speaker 7: It doesn't have to you can explain or you don't
Speaker 7: have to explain Ship Brooklyn.
Speaker 12: That's what's good. He might make us drink drinking, damn man, Brooklyn. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 12: I'm gonna think of first. This is very interesting.
Speaker 1: So I'm gonna let you man you with my mooth
Speaker 1: what time? Yeah? You want to go the next one? Yeah?
Speaker 1: One time, one time? All right, biggiear puck No, no, man,
Speaker 1: I can't be the whole time, he said. Both ain't
Speaker 1: no easy one big hell pop hold on whatever cartiery
Speaker 1: you want.
Speaker 2: You know later we got it. They broke my Gemini
Speaker 2: brothers too, though.
Speaker 1: Married to a Gemini. Oh my god, you mayor June.
Speaker 1: You're a wild Gemini holy ship. You're the two part
Speaker 1: Gemini Gemini holy ship.
Speaker 6: Is that supposed to make my answer easier? I gotta
Speaker 6: go Brooklyn man. But they bugged my brothers.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, bigg yeah, big that's cool, okay, d m
Speaker 1: X all.
Speaker 2: Big al and rest in piece of big piece piece
Speaker 2: both of them. Damn max a big l damn dang.
Speaker 6: I fucked with el Man L kind of introduced me
Speaker 6: up to children in the choir. He was the first
Speaker 6: one who put me on the cam and all of them, wow,
Speaker 6: oh my boy. McGruff was ex l.
Speaker 1: Well my no, it's a time limit. Yeah take a
Speaker 1: shot now, you gotta take a shot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, both and unless you contested, Yeah no, no, no.
Speaker 3: You can't contest that yeah, alright ready, okay, yeah you
Speaker 3: got this one.
Speaker 2: Biz or O d B.
Speaker 1: Yeah, O d B.
Speaker 2: Welcome to drinks.
Speaker 1: That's Brooklyn, man, that's Brooklyn O d B O d B.
Speaker 1: Y'all Brooklyn mother is really going I gotta lie damn
Speaker 1: wick upon trying to use the bathroom. You're not trying,
Speaker 1: He's us do when the check on. That is the cruel.
Speaker 1: That was a cruel one right there. Bro.
Speaker 3: It's like it's like you probably wouldn't have like a no.
Speaker 2: dB without a business.
Speaker 1: That's how I think true. Yeah, picking picking boogets, that's
Speaker 1: my favorite record.
Speaker 2: Who makes who can make a record?
Speaker 1: Like he said, I'm going my nose just taking up
Speaker 1: the basketball and pass it to you.
Speaker 2: Holy you seen the documentary the biz Mark.
Speaker 1: You yes, he was. He was down everybody.
Speaker 2: He put people on.
Speaker 1: That's l that's ll damn man.
Speaker 2: But the god though one man, Harmy Seng. He's never
Speaker 2: been tooking out. He's looking out.
Speaker 1: He's dropping his all the girls be dropping babies.
Speaker 2: We used to play chess every day.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: Oh dd really I'm a pick Mark. That's the original man. Okay, okay,
Speaker 3: you can take the next two. I think it's gonna
Speaker 3: be an easy one for them. Yeah, buck shot or
Speaker 3: specially uh the game is rigged.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so you won't have to take a shot for
Speaker 1: this one. Of course you're going buck shot, big up
Speaker 1: to buck shot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, man, buck shot the big bady eye bad I
Speaker 3: Doug Man, it's my guy.
Speaker 1: Go to that Buck Waller Diamond d oh God ye
Speaker 1: shout out the c C. You know how nice buck
Speaker 1: Wow is.
Speaker 6: I know, I know, dumb, dumb, dumb nice buck My
Speaker 6: man too, and he's and he puts it on and.
Speaker 1: I too with buck Wow.
Speaker 3: Okay, I know because Diamond is Man.
Speaker 1: I got it. I got I can't pick. I can't
Speaker 1: taking that. I got this one because I'm A'm gonna
Speaker 1: skip this one because we always do this one. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna skip this one. I'm gonna go to the
Speaker 1: next one.
Speaker 2: This one.
Speaker 1: I gotta know. This is gonna be pause. I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be hard for both for y'all. Mab deep
Speaker 1: or m O P another round.
Speaker 2: Here, Bob.
Speaker 1: I'm queens and the same pride I got. I got
Speaker 1: some queens, but that's still hard for me.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't be yeah, I wouldn't be able to pick
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 3: Okay, Yo, you gotta think man, because we came up,
Speaker 3: we came up watching watching m o BB. You know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, Pride Jay. Hell, we came up seeing them.
Speaker 3: We came up seeing them now, hell right in front
Speaker 3: of bat We've seen them. We've seen them stickers on
Speaker 3: the train in Brooklyn. You know that's family though.
Speaker 1: So Wu Tang Clan or Juice Crew mm hmmm mm hmmm. Damn.
Speaker 7: It's kind of like the same as Bus and O
Speaker 7: d B, like the President.
Speaker 1: Back to back it is.
Speaker 3: I'm just thinking, like, do you get one without the other? Time?
Speaker 3: My way g rappers in the juice cool correct, juice cool.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say what I would have picked on
Speaker 1: this one. I'll get back to that another time.
Speaker 2: DJs. Okay, yeah, I was gonna skip that one. No, no,
Speaker 2: come on flex or kick Capri mm hmm CA Capri.
Speaker 1: Capri n w A or public Enemy.
Speaker 3: Oh ay, that's like, man, Chuck is my dude, and
Speaker 3: I love that guy. It's one of my top guys.
Speaker 3: You know that my in flavor FLA man, come on man.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I might leak up with PE and they
Speaker 1: were like the same this day with n w A.
Speaker 1: So that's.
Speaker 3: I feel you when you had Q go to the
Speaker 3: bump squad that showed you exactly you ain't gonna have chuck. Damn,
Speaker 3: that would have been l two, but that would have
Speaker 3: been wild. That's uh hey drinking and he picked you.
Speaker 1: Oh so I got a picture.
Speaker 2: That's the that's one man. So if I picked Pe,
Speaker 2: we drink or we don't drink. No, no, no, we
Speaker 2: don't drink. Yeah yeah, we don't.
Speaker 1: Do that on your birthday. But you got to drink
Speaker 1: on your birthday called quest or brand Nubian. Are you
Speaker 1: skipped other work?
Speaker 2: Yeah, you go back to that.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: Oh man, man, that's hard because he got relations ships
Speaker 6: with all these like personal relationships.
Speaker 5: Like my.
Speaker 6: Man, oh my god. Oh man, see I bringing my
Speaker 6: high back on.
Speaker 1: Yourself.
Speaker 7: And we're bringing up all these names because we want
Speaker 7: to talk about these we want to these names out there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense, man, because like you know, from
Speaker 3: a historic point. That's why fifty fifty years is dope too,
Speaker 3: because you forgot about some of these cats. You know,
Speaker 3: these cats are still working you. They might be overseas,
Speaker 3: they might be tucked in the whole little war you know,
Speaker 3: but damn, I think I'm gonna say tribe though.
Speaker 1: Take the shot, Take the shot, Take the shot. You're
Speaker 1: thinking both man, Okay for this one, I'm gonna go
Speaker 1: this one and another one and you go back, all right,
Speaker 1: go ahead, easy or cor mega. I'm biased. I got
Speaker 1: one the next two that I'm will send it to you.
Speaker 13: Man.
Speaker 3: That's dangerous man, Brooklyn Baby, but is my guy just
Speaker 3: like the same dude? Right that's likes and peace like
Speaker 3: or like right there for the Brooklyn too.
Speaker 6: So they both Brooklyn me ticket take.
Speaker 2: Ready, salute to both of them. This I love this one.
Speaker 1: We're drinking them, were drinking Ematic or ready to die.
Speaker 14: Here, buddy, stand up, I'm ready ready to.
Speaker 2: Come back to nine shots your tough costume. Man, that's
Speaker 2: Brooklyn Baby.
Speaker 3: Man, I think I would be carry out man. Okay,
Speaker 3: he's doing that ship because he likes it.
Speaker 2: I'm speaking to you after this one.
Speaker 1: Go ahead, coming come on man. Ematic.
Speaker 3: There's no first of all, both both of those albums,
Speaker 3: there's no there's no fast forward in.
Speaker 1: Yeah the one God Is One is longer, yo.
Speaker 3: Listen, I'm talking about talking about we come up in
Speaker 3: the era where we listened to the Get Skised. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying, come on when it come on.
Speaker 3: We were just listening to the Skin is Dope, you know,
Speaker 3: like you gotta be.
Speaker 2: And hip hop today.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're talking about that war the other day. You
Speaker 1: you you you.
Speaker 2: It brought you like I'm in Miami. I felt like
Speaker 2: I was.
Speaker 3: In you talking about you talking about Biggie is storyteller
Speaker 3: right here talking about niggas trying to rob you. Every
Speaker 3: Brooklyn nigga sat there and was like what you either
Speaker 3: was on the other side most time you probably you
Speaker 3: know the story very well.
Speaker 1: It was crazy because everybody had a pop from the
Speaker 1: barber shop. It was just what.
Speaker 2: Takes a picture?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes, it's King of New York or New Jack City.
Speaker 2: Frank White, New York King.
Speaker 3: That's easy, okay, easy, but damn King of New York.
Speaker 2: Leaders of the Newscort, Jungle Brothers.
Speaker 3: M MU, leaders of the New Suit and they was
Speaker 3: like together knife buster rhymes.
Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yeah, it's just the case. I love the
Speaker 1: Jungle Brothers though, man.
Speaker 2: I mean they're the reason why we have native tongue.
Speaker 1: That's a bit we're.
Speaker 2: Calling absolutely yeah.
Speaker 1: J B.
Speaker 3: The name is just at the block party, the plus
Speaker 3: the name is just wow bro like the JBS being
Speaker 3: like the Jungle Brothers. A right, that is, I'm going
Speaker 3: with the Jungle man. I'm gonna go with the JBS.
Speaker 3: I love look at that store. But you said the
Speaker 3: Jungle Yeah. Thanks, So you say I gotta go with leaders.
Speaker 1: So we got to drink. No, no, no, no, no really,
Speaker 1: I just I don't want to drink more locked doors,
Speaker 1: Smoother Hustler or saurt money. Do you skid?
Speaker 2: We said all shoo kidding, that's what he said. No
Speaker 2: Smooter Hustler or source money.
Speaker 1: Oh that's gladyt both who is not being from drinking.
Speaker 1: So I don't know why I saw money. He's no,
Speaker 1: we want something I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know who started. I'm gonna go with smooth.
Speaker 2: That's my guys are right there.
Speaker 3: Smooth Hustle Money is a fucking maniac too, But I'm
Speaker 3: gonna going with smooth.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, brown Sauce, I like that. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: go on separate. I think they started to do that
Speaker 1: so they can't drink.
Speaker 2: They got to black sad.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah skipped that. Oh say that against that black
Speaker 1: who thought that one?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 1: My gosh, I like to see that verses too.
Speaker 7: Mister Lee doesn't even know most definite in English.
Speaker 2: Definitely, I like black.
Speaker 15: Yeah, yeah, I gotta take a shot.
Speaker 1: I gotta take a shot. Damn okay, j flies Oh,
Speaker 1: Mariah Carrey, look gotta go, Mary. You can't leave them either,
Speaker 1: but relaxed let them Oh my bad. I just I
Speaker 1: just I love married leading the witness exactly the sauce
Speaker 1: of ex excel.
Speaker 2: H Man saw us with it.
Speaker 1: You know, that's the.
Speaker 6: That's that's they got this saw. You know how they
Speaker 6: used to want to kill a nigga to get five mics.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something. It almost happened to man.
Speaker 1: He know to this day, Yes, many me and this nigga.
Speaker 2: Could be arguing about difference.
Speaker 1: We could be arguing about candles, and I was just like,
Speaker 1: niggain't give me know the mic. He was like, what
Speaker 1: the fuck is.
Speaker 2: This got to do with?
Speaker 1: I have not got over it? And he lets Soak
Speaker 1: the Shaka beat me in every award and he brings
Speaker 1: us up every episode, So you know, it's bothering nigga
Speaker 1: every category. I want to I don't shock of the
Speaker 1: same ship. I'm so fucked up behind this almost it's
Speaker 1: almost like twenty two years later, I went to beat
Speaker 1: your Ward for a podcast and I set the wards
Speaker 1: like last time I've been here, let the shock.
Speaker 2: Be talking about you know what?
Speaker 3: The songs definitely start doing some funny business out.
Speaker 1: What it was.
Speaker 2: It could never be like its cemented itself. It was
Speaker 2: never the Bible, man, it was the Bible, and they
Speaker 2: used to have some hard ass cover.
Speaker 3: You did take nine Ads out and that was the
Speaker 3: only magazine to take me.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was the funking up part.
Speaker 1: You have money.
Speaker 3: Down for.
Speaker 1: Just cash money.
Speaker 2: I knew business. It was my friend.
Speaker 1: As I started saying that, like, I really didn't get
Speaker 1: over it, and I was just like like being he
Speaker 1: just looked at me like a man. He was like,
Speaker 1: I can't front master peas about all the ass. You
Speaker 1: couldn't be mad. Listen the way he like broke it down,
Speaker 1: Like actually I was still mad, let's just be clear,
Speaker 1: but I just couldn't let my frustration continue. I was
Speaker 1: just like, because I might have took the same the
Speaker 1: reason why we got not to coutch. I'm gonna let
Speaker 1: you go on.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry, but we had skuldug ree on Penalty. He
Speaker 4: was part of the ads. Is when Penalty had to
Speaker 4: take out that ad, they put it in the ad,
Speaker 4: but it looked like a.
Speaker 1: Master p because because the go to show a little bit,
Speaker 1: because it says six, we're gonna stop at seven. Analog
Speaker 1: or digital. I want both of y'all to analysts.
Speaker 2: Do you want both of them to be analog?
Speaker 6: That's that's one of them. Any given Sunday.
Speaker 3: Joints analog spencer, you want to say, I'm glad you
Speaker 3: gave us the rules because but politically correct, that ship
Speaker 3: is real because analog, you know, analog and stuff.
Speaker 1: That's stuff, right, you don't have all that digital.
Speaker 2: So clean and you could go back in and do
Speaker 2: this same time, definitely do more with digital. What does
Speaker 2: it feel like?
Speaker 1: Right? Clean? Digital made it so anybody correct? Yeah, but
Speaker 1: it sounded too clean, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: That's not clean. But anybody sound that clean? You had
Speaker 3: to jumps in the.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: You appreciate sound, you all right, just as far as
Speaker 3: music wise, you're talking about your music wise like cameras
Speaker 3: and yeah, well keep it.
Speaker 1: Then we go down to other Rappit sold with that one.
Speaker 1: I still I say analog for that.
Speaker 3: As far as the music analog or digital, Yeah, I
Speaker 3: would say analog too, man, Digital was great, but the analog, man,
Speaker 3: that's that's.
Speaker 1: A feeling because it was communal. You had like like
Speaker 1: from like right now seeing the smith and wrestle can
Speaker 1: make a record, right, But if y'all in Brooklyn and
Speaker 1: then we in left Brack and queens Bridge, and especially
Speaker 1: if me and compone not even together, like like it'd
Speaker 1: be better if me and components together, y'all together and
Speaker 1: we accept it.
Speaker 2: But we're feeling together.
Speaker 1: Drinking the delion, drinking the motherfucker, get with some gumbo,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And like that chemistry on
Speaker 1: different court Yeah, yeah, hell yeah, you hear that in
Speaker 1: the records now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, collaborate like
Speaker 2: labs no more.
Speaker 1: The levels of the vocals are different because they record
Speaker 1: on different mics. It's all different show.
Speaker 3: It's a double sword though, right because sometimes like ship,
Speaker 3: we've been recording in so many different crazy ass studios
Speaker 3: in our man crib, like we we've done that, We've
Speaker 3: done the cutting rooms, and then like you got a
Speaker 3: guy like a like a East Swift, right, we recorded
Speaker 3: with East Swift alcoholics, alcoholics, who's l Yeah, this guy
Speaker 3: is a beast.
Speaker 2: But it's like we in the bathroom like it.
Speaker 3: It's like a mattress, yeah, the drummer like that, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean. But then it's like, all right,
Speaker 3: we did, we did one. We did when we did
Speaker 3: the reggae album. We recorded behind like bookshelves and ship again.
Speaker 3: It was like mattresses, the case alone, case along and
Speaker 3: we had the mics, you know, the you know the recorder,
Speaker 3: the old school recorders, like when you doing an interview
Speaker 3: with a cat with the little MIC's the little mike sticks.
Speaker 2: I mean it's like a small boom mint.
Speaker 3: We rapping on that like I was in yard though
Speaker 3: for real, I was like, yeah, this is like this
Speaker 3: you thirty like from.
Speaker 1: But what's the name? Digital world?
Speaker 4: After a while, because you know, rest my brother had
Speaker 4: the s v K saved us a lot of money
Speaker 4: by switching us the digital from analog, and we learned how.
Speaker 1: To rape the label.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that that's the truth.
Speaker 2: We ain't taking.
Speaker 1: Definitely, digital is cheaper in case, like what you said,
Speaker 1: it's a gift in the curse because it's like in
Speaker 1: the course, it's like all right, cool, like to make
Speaker 1: an analog record, you gotta be there six hours. You
Speaker 1: ain't you ain't you ain't just unless your rhyme is
Speaker 1: unless you're five percent with it, like you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, Like you want to be like no lesson Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's that's when we have oversaturation. Now digital anybody could
Speaker 1: be a recording artist. You got some on your computer,
Speaker 1: You got some being apone can sound like y'all, you
Speaker 1: can sound like me a bone.
Speaker 3: You can only do the right thing with a I
Speaker 3: was being I liked what he said. Only person just
Speaker 3: gonna use his old voice. Yeah, and his new album
Speaker 3: so he can sound like so now being so so.
Speaker 3: Now we're talking about about on the Rabbit. Now we're
Speaker 3: going down a rabbits hole, because that would be if
Speaker 3: we did like.
Speaker 1: Digg dka do that, if he never would have lost
Speaker 1: his voice.
Speaker 2: He was writing for everybody.
Speaker 3: Other than that, we don't need to be tampering with that.
Speaker 3: Cats are still alive.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I set people sometimes people
Speaker 1: need I say some.
Speaker 2: I've seen some.
Speaker 3: I've seen some artists on the on this like fifty
Speaker 3: year trip, like they really struggling, trying hard to get
Speaker 3: in the game. Some cats is looking out of shape,
Speaker 3: you know, and it's like it's hard. It's difficult, like
Speaker 3: even for I'm not saying you got to go to
Speaker 3: the gym all the time, but like even like mentally
Speaker 3: getting up there and performing in front of people, like
Speaker 3: you gotta.
Speaker 1: Be gotta be in a space, right, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean?
Speaker 3: So like all that, we ain't gonna be jumping around,
Speaker 3: but you see guys coming and paying. But they was
Speaker 3: the tickets was like three hundred, like three hundred and up.
Speaker 3: People want to see if people want to be at
Speaker 3: the rafter bells, I think something like that. I don't know,
Speaker 3: but yeah, you say that he probably was way more
Speaker 3: than that.
Speaker 4: They only seemed like maybe a bucket from this Gate
Speaker 4: eight show you the tickets wasn't that expensive.
Speaker 1: That ship was infinite.
Speaker 2: Gate eight Beyonce.
Speaker 1: Beyonce was shut it down. She gave him away fifteen million.
Speaker 1: I ain't tell the Swift, Let's keep him broun. I'm
Speaker 1: not looking for tell the Swift concert. I'm going to
Speaker 1: be our concert wherever you are. The money may but
Speaker 1: I'm going to a Drake concert. Yeah, I want to
Speaker 1: see them bras being thrown go ahead.
Speaker 4: Fitty said he ain't get no bros, get no bros
Speaker 4: A bulletproof.
Speaker 1: I stole at scar face.
Speaker 3: Oh face uh goe with face. Man, you gotta you
Speaker 3: gotta commit when the sugar hard, when you get you hard,
Speaker 3: you got thanks to You can't think you know what's.
Speaker 1: Crazy about real hip hop?
Speaker 2: I can see.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 4: Think about personal nae joint, think about oh yeah, come on,
Speaker 4: think about scar face joint on joint. Then you gotta
Speaker 4: really think about.
Speaker 2: Ever seeing a man crass. You guys, you get me
Speaker 2: started with.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That was that was no stopping. It's no easy way
Speaker 2: out on that one.
Speaker 1: Bro Ski So what we all got to drink? Saying both?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 2: I said, I said both. I say both.
Speaker 1: I'm saying yeah.
Speaker 4: Shot because faceball many small, it's crazy face small coas
Speaker 4: me can.
Speaker 2: All right ready what you said that Boys and the Society.
Speaker 6: Those are two classic. This is a life lesson movies.
Speaker 1: I'm at the at the at the border trying to
Speaker 1: get you know, because it's like watching the movies.
Speaker 6: You applied ship from the movies to your every day
Speaker 6: life to get to where you are right now.
Speaker 1: God damn man, boys in the hood or what it's now,
Speaker 1: y'all gotta take a.
Speaker 15: Drink, Okay, yeah, y'all san this mixing over there.
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I gotta go with both cool, all right,
Speaker 1: because you know, we'll skip around a little bit and
Speaker 1: you can go back to whatever you want to go
Speaker 1: to rap City or your TV raps mm hmmm mm.
Speaker 3: Hmm yr m t V raps. That's the foundation him
Speaker 3: right then. Yeah, that's a hard one too, it damn
Speaker 3: said Ralph Daniel. Rap City had the basement was to
Speaker 3: come up, and so I would even say you m
Speaker 3: T was with uh yeah, yeah, guys, I say five
Speaker 3: five The other day on.
Speaker 2: Some ship city was Joe Claire that's the home.
Speaker 3: And that's the homie too, Joe Claire and tagged off.
Speaker 1: This drink and they both.
Speaker 2: You can't many.
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: Like we've been in DC like every other week.
Speaker 1: Okay, this one, I'm curious. I did my ship Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm curious for this one. I feel like you're both
Speaker 1: going to drink on this one. K rest Or rock
Speaker 1: himp mm hmm. Whatever can carry you you want.
Speaker 2: He's drinking already.
Speaker 1: Relationships, man, that's the fun.
Speaker 3: That part because it's like you're thinking about accomplishments.
Speaker 2: It's whatever is.
Speaker 1: Melody, you know, but they both really don't fly. You
Speaker 1: gotta gotta get with them on boat nobody beat.
Speaker 3: That's not hip hop royalty. I don't know where is
Speaker 3: that is. Ultimately, I don't like to be on a
Speaker 3: plane longer than like three four hours really, but a
Speaker 3: boat but.
Speaker 1: You gotta leave like a week and a half, will
Speaker 1: take a boat overseas.
Speaker 3: But what I do love about Chris is that he'll
Speaker 3: he bring his family. Yeah, not away from your FAMI.
Speaker 3: Kids are DJs.
Speaker 2: Yeah you get home.
Speaker 3: That's only Yeah he's doing and I think now.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the family, it's a family. Remember before Miss Melody
Speaker 1: was all they were all together? Do ship? That ship worked.
Speaker 3: Yeah, So that means like do you get homesick?
Speaker 2: Your whole crime is you And that's a real wave
Speaker 2: pop family crib.
Speaker 3: You gotta think like both a boat tore like Africa Australia.
Speaker 1: That's like a week, like a week, yeah, like a week,
Speaker 1: not a week. It's a week that gotta be more
Speaker 1: than a week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got you.
Speaker 9: Want to talk about bro, take you.
Speaker 5: Take you a day to get Texans?
Speaker 1: Bro take you it's day by car. On the bus,
Speaker 1: it does take your day to get through. Take you
Speaker 1: all the Texas, it does Texas, buddy.
Speaker 15: The bus we didn't hell in New York is like
Speaker 15: twenty eight hours.
Speaker 2: On it twice, right, eighteen seventeen.
Speaker 1: I think it take you said, from here to Africa
Speaker 1: abound No, no, no, I'm thinking of the last time
Speaker 1: karas One was on drink Champs.
Speaker 2: Remember he went to Europe. He went to Europe after that,
Speaker 2: I think it.
Speaker 7: I think it took like a week, you know, I'm
Speaker 7: at all.
Speaker 1: But but what he does though, Yeah, in fact, Joe
Speaker 1: wasn't flying originally because of karas One. In fact, yeah,
Speaker 1: he didn't fly originally. Yeah, but listen, ain't nothing.
Speaker 3: Nice about being on a boat for a week though,
Speaker 3: But it's hopefully nobody against ind no accident.
Speaker 2: Everybody said he's in a car accident.
Speaker 1: Accident.
Speaker 3: But but what he does though, which is which is
Speaker 3: genius aside from taking his family is like depending on
Speaker 3: I guess the lens for the show, like you know,
Speaker 3: like back in the days they have even now they
Speaker 3: have the cruises. Right when you stopping different the country
Speaker 3: is on the way, so you have like he was
Speaker 3: talking about going I guess to Europe or whatever, but
Speaker 3: stopping in.
Speaker 1: Like the rock the bell crews coming up to go
Speaker 1: to like to go to like.
Speaker 3: This library, and he's like, this book you can only
Speaker 3: find in this, in this this, this, this church.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yo, this guy is really in it like that.
Speaker 3: So when it comes to him being a teacher and
Speaker 3: a scholar as far as that, that's rare.
Speaker 2: It's all done. I can't speak.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's almost blasphemy because Rock Chim is
Speaker 3: the god that's top five, So.
Speaker 1: You pick a care of us. One is this is
Speaker 1: what you're saying. I'm drinking. I'm drinking. I'm definitely drinking
Speaker 1: because he's the case.
Speaker 3: But in the world, man, right, hut, the tighten tightens.
Speaker 2: Man, drink you want to.
Speaker 1: You want to go to the last one until we
Speaker 1: can get back quick. That was trying to.
Speaker 2: I mean there's still some good ones, man, Okay, you
Speaker 2: want to get one more good one of the.
Speaker 1: Two.
Speaker 2: A couple of nip your easy.
Speaker 1: Damn mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Easy is the godfather. Man, let me go with man,
Speaker 3: that's the piece, both of them, brothers.
Speaker 6: Man, I can see nip nip nipp is is the
Speaker 6: is like a fore runner for a whole new generation.
Speaker 2: He carried a torch. Carry the torch.
Speaker 6: So yeah, we drinking, but both I respect. That's in
Speaker 6: peace of them brothers.
Speaker 1: You want to go, man, the Chronic or me against
Speaker 1: the World? M you didn't drink.
Speaker 3: Brother a minute and it's your birthday and you didn't
Speaker 3: drink Chronic or me against the World.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of where I was at those
Speaker 2: when those albums was dropping like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, Against the World is the album he dropped
Speaker 1: as he came out of jail.
Speaker 2: That came out.
Speaker 3: This was when we was World.
Speaker 1: He was I think he was in he was just
Speaker 1: getting out.
Speaker 2: He was still in.
Speaker 7: It wasn't it wasn't even in prison when that against
Speaker 7: the World, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That was.
Speaker 7: That was the one that had the video with everybody
Speaker 7: in it, but like all the celebrities.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's when he was coming out. I'm with you
Speaker 1: on that one.
Speaker 2: He was whatever it was rolled out while he was
Speaker 2: still in there.
Speaker 1: But we all know that the Chronic is.
Speaker 3: That's one of the you know, top top being in
Speaker 3: the Blueprint album.
Speaker 1: That's not even like an album that's like a fucking
Speaker 1: like that's a double album, wasn't it. That is like
Speaker 1: that's a that's like a like a symphonic that we
Speaker 1: got like my old school may that's all all. Let
Speaker 1: me just say you something came out.
Speaker 2: Let me let me just say some I want you
Speaker 2: to drink.
Speaker 1: One day, Listen, listen, listen. One day. I'm outside and
Speaker 1: I'm listening to just pot right, So I'm taking a
Speaker 1: walk and that record comes on. Ain't nothing like the
Speaker 1: Old School and he's talking about Skelly. He's talking about
Speaker 1: only New York Ship and I'm listening to it. And
Speaker 1: the people that I'm what, they don't they don't they
Speaker 1: don't get they don't get it at all. When you
Speaker 1: was in New York, I was saying, Hollywood Beach, just
Speaker 1: just taking a walk. And then California Love comes on,
Speaker 1: and it's crazy how he embodied.
Speaker 7: Coast because he is from both coasts in that way.
Speaker 1: I just didn't see nobody ever in like, if you
Speaker 1: listen to like you not being from New York, you
Speaker 1: might not catch the Jews that he's saying in about
Speaker 1: you know, talking about the fire hydrants. There's certain just
Speaker 1: certain things that just was in New York, right, and
Speaker 1: especially at that time. So when you I'm listening to it,
Speaker 1: then I'm listening to California Love, which I can't actually
Speaker 1: relate to because I never actually lived in Cali. But
Speaker 1: I'm listening and the people that's with me, it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: they get it, and I'm looking like, holy ship. This
Speaker 1: guy actually the one and only person to ever actually capture.
Speaker 2: Both both stories. That's why he went the top five.
Speaker 1: Did you watch it?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 1: No, I came on right back to back. It was
Speaker 1: I had my playlist on. But did you watch The
Speaker 1: Dear Mama? The documentary? Oh no, I did not, was
Speaker 1: the latest. We all know his mama's a panther. I
Speaker 1: didn't know that.
Speaker 7: It was in Harlem when she was at and she
Speaker 7: damn you ran the whole thing.
Speaker 1: Wow, I know.
Speaker 7: So, I mean his his roots in New York are
Speaker 7: like it's it's it's crazy.
Speaker 3: So you got to think, man, this guy and went
Speaker 3: to acting school like he was dedicated.
Speaker 6: And the Ellens ghettos of New York be more Baltimore Ghetto.
Speaker 6: That's like Carmelo Anthony.
Speaker 2: That's ridiculous. That's the both worlds. That's some black Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2: You you you you.
Speaker 3: Went through all of the hells you went through love Hella, right,
Speaker 3: and you was raised by an army like you don't
Speaker 3: have you talked about a village. He was raised by
Speaker 3: a village of panthers and they was going through it.
Speaker 3: He was born in the belly, right, He was in
Speaker 3: the belly and his balls in prison.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3: So you got a person with that that that that
Speaker 3: is has has taken all of this, this this trauma
Speaker 3: and been able to give it back. A lot of
Speaker 3: people were very critical of Pop because he tends to
Speaker 3: bounce around and go are you're a panther or you
Speaker 3: a gangster?
Speaker 2: That's a he's a he's an artist like that.
Speaker 3: He was.
Speaker 1: Understand how young he was, Like the last question back
Speaker 1: until we could go in and go into the Yeah,
Speaker 1: but when you go more, we hear you, bro, because
Speaker 1: take the mic and checked it. The question was what
Speaker 1: it was me against the world? Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: drinking to that. Okay, but we drank yeah yes, but
Speaker 1: now this is the last one and we're gonna get
Speaker 1: back into the interview. You heard yeah, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: the this is the one. I feel like everyone should
Speaker 1: drink on this. Loyalty or respect the guys start drinking.
Speaker 1: Everybody should drink, is there?
Speaker 2: Of course? You know they both go hand in hands.
Speaker 3: But like like what hand you grow up with, you
Speaker 3: will you will want the respect from your peers, and
Speaker 3: you're a man.
Speaker 6: You want that respect and you're gonna give it. But
Speaker 6: from that is gonna choose to be loyal to you
Speaker 6: or not because you might not need that loyal to
Speaker 6: you at the s time.
Speaker 1: So who would have wanted both? Who wouldn't want both?
Speaker 1: But respect is a big thing. So that's so you're
Speaker 1: going to respect.
Speaker 2: I'm going with respect, but I'm going with both. I
Speaker 2: respect that.
Speaker 1: You gotta drink on that ship.
Speaker 5: He said one, but ship.
Speaker 1: Because you could not, he said both at the end,
Speaker 1: still this one wanting.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you drinking.
Speaker 1: I'm not drinking that Wana shot you see? Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: so hold on. So you know I watched I watched
Speaker 1: you uh on a clip of map Hapa, my expert
Speaker 1: opinion podcast, and it was a time where I believe
Speaker 1: the guy like kind of like he questioned you or
Speaker 1: something about your relationship with Pop and I believe your
Speaker 1: response on paraphrasing, it's like, yo, buddy, you wasn't there
Speaker 1: so there's no way you can actually judge this this scenario, right,
Speaker 1: which is like a lot of people ask me about
Speaker 1: things and it's really pretty much the same thing I say.
Speaker 1: It's like, Yo, it's being around and being in it
Speaker 1: is two different. Like I was, I never met Tupac
Speaker 1: at all, so so I can't I can't relate to it,
Speaker 1: like you know what I'm saying, so that but I
Speaker 1: was around it, but I.
Speaker 2: Wasn't in it.
Speaker 1: So can you describe for people who didn't know, like
Speaker 1: you know, or don't know when they google and they see,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying, the Coco brothers, Smith and
Speaker 1: West and at this time where we're supposed to be
Speaker 1: trimorial with what people know, it's really he was just
Speaker 1: bad boy.
Speaker 2: But people at that time.
Speaker 1: Tried to relate it to as if it was the
Speaker 1: whole East West coast.
Speaker 2: So yeah, yeah, it wasn't.
Speaker 6: As you know now, it wasn't that it was just
Speaker 6: between individuals and certain joints. But the whole time we
Speaker 6: had met Pop, his whole stance was like, Yo, I
Speaker 6: really want to unite this hip hop ship.
Speaker 2: What was it called One Nation? Was an album of
Speaker 2: the gun.
Speaker 6: He was like Yo, I really want to unite this
Speaker 6: hip hop ship. And we had a relationship for him.
Speaker 6: As soon as he came home, he called us up
Speaker 6: at the label was like yo. He talked to Buck
Speaker 6: Shot Wow and Buck. You know Buck used to be
Speaker 6: heavy on the print calls, just like the Jerky Boy.
Speaker 6: So he did that ship to record labels forever. So
Speaker 6: Buck got the call, It's like yo, Buck for you
Speaker 6: Like man.
Speaker 7: Sorry, but you guys had a relationship with Park already
Speaker 7: before this though, no, so this coming home, this was
Speaker 7: he was.
Speaker 1: One of the homies. One of the homes was one
Speaker 1: of the homies. Swan had a relationship with Stretcher.
Speaker 3: Stretch then like, you know, Outlaws is from Jersey and
Speaker 3: Dirty Jersey, Brooklyn Hard. It's a it's a weird relationship
Speaker 3: with Jersey Cats and Brooklyn. So I think that, you know,
Speaker 3: the Outlaw of Cats was checking out, you know, they
Speaker 3: listening to the Buck Shot.
Speaker 2: And seeing what's what and relaying words.
Speaker 3: I don't know who got what they I know on
Speaker 3: the back of the on the back of the show,
Speaker 3: and Tech had rolled a shout out Mike Tyson and
Speaker 3: Tupac like want to keep your head going with.
Speaker 1: My right Tyson shirt today too.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, this is like random, super random. It could
Speaker 3: be any any fact that our dudes that says, let's
Speaker 3: reach out the cats, you know.
Speaker 7: And then I don't want to say this to just
Speaker 7: to throw it out there, but just to clarify.
Speaker 2: Could it have been that?
Speaker 7: Because I know that boot Camp had something with Big
Speaker 7: and Drena Mafia.
Speaker 2: Do you think that had anything to do he would
Speaker 2: reach out to y'all? No, not at all.
Speaker 3: When we got down there where we learned that it
Speaker 3: was No, it was like they called who they could call.
Speaker 2: He mentioned it, he said, I reached out the cats.
Speaker 1: Because isn't that how that Method Man and Redman record
Speaker 1: came about?
Speaker 3: Too?
Speaker 1: I think that was like kind of insane.
Speaker 2: Vein what the one Magnum Forest doing.
Speaker 1: The Method Man, Red Man and Tupac and Dazz Dylan.
Speaker 2: Remember, I got my mind made up. I think I
Speaker 2: think I think that was Okay Man, I know that
Speaker 2: what we was down there with? Who was down there?
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, okay, Greg nice?
Speaker 3: Wow, Yeah some Jersey Cats, wasn't Meli Melan Nah?
Speaker 1: I don't think Melly Man who.
Speaker 3: Was knock you out or some ship with some one
Speaker 3: of these serious five.
Speaker 2: Niggas was there, Yeah, yeah, it was.
Speaker 3: It was exciting, man, because it's like you're in the
Speaker 3: studio with cats and everybody wants to get on the track.
Speaker 3: But for us, it was like an opportunity, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, We're going down there as ambassadors of
Speaker 3: hip hop. We ain't talking about like we on this
Speaker 3: side of double agents or nothing like that. We're not
Speaker 3: thinking about no trees and we couldn't even think about
Speaker 3: trees in the Brooklyn That's that's ridiculous. So it was insulting,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, and especially like Brooklyn don't
Speaker 3: even really we don't even be playing those types.
Speaker 2: Of games like that gets really serious.
Speaker 1: Word you use trees? Yeah, yeah, that's ship.
Speaker 2: They talk about a bitch or a snitch or something.
Speaker 1: So that was the backlash because so because you know,
Speaker 1: I had forgot about that until I seen the map
Speaker 1: hop thing.
Speaker 2: But was that let me just ask you, like me
Speaker 2: be a naive, was.
Speaker 1: That a backlash? Because y'all might have recorded it prior
Speaker 1: to pop you know whatever, whatever, but he released it
Speaker 1: or he published it at a time where it was
Speaker 1: like it was war.
Speaker 2: So was there a backlash?
Speaker 1: I mean it wasn't.
Speaker 3: It wasn't no backlash because I was still, like I said,
Speaker 3: I was hanging out.
Speaker 1: With Big every day.
Speaker 2: Wow wow, I remember every every day.
Speaker 1: That other beef that was.
Speaker 6: That wasn't even what we call a beef. It was
Speaker 6: just a miscommunication and a misunderstanding of ship that went
Speaker 6: down Brooklyn Niggas all right, But Nah, that wasn't no
Speaker 6: backlash for that, and we we we we would ride
Speaker 6: and act like it wasn't even in the forefront, which
Speaker 6: it wasn't. We were just being friends with one another
Speaker 6: and enjoying, you know what I mean. So now it
Speaker 6: wasn't a backlash until the media, like you said, started
Speaker 6: driving driving points home and making sure.
Speaker 1: But other than that, yeah, I don't think.
Speaker 3: Uh you know how the Hoby says deeper than rap
Speaker 3: Man and uh other home, he says bigger than hip hop.
Speaker 3: Like for us, we know it's politics at hip hop
Speaker 3: and the street politics, right, So like Smith and Western
Speaker 3: not not not for nothing, Like Smith and Western, we
Speaker 3: don't we don't do beef really like that.
Speaker 2: We don't really you know, we know, we.
Speaker 3: Know we're gonna cross some lines, We're gonna come across
Speaker 3: some dudes. We're gonna be in dudes towns in the city.
Speaker 3: They ain't gonna like it. We're gonna be picking up
Speaker 3: they chicks and and and looking good and they in
Speaker 3: the club and ain't gonna be hating, and we gonna
Speaker 3: get into some stuff. But like, like this is why
Speaker 3: Hip hop fifty is so glorious because now you get
Speaker 3: to see cats like niggas ain't really got no drama.
Speaker 1: He ain't got no beef.
Speaker 3: Beef is beef when it get going and get going
Speaker 3: like that. We've been at walls, we've been doing stuff
Speaker 3: for real. Nobody want to do that off of no
Speaker 3: rat like you, old goddamn yo, all of us, don't
Speaker 3: be dissing on me. My man Stormy big up to
Speaker 3: my man Stormy. Stormy as an outlaw too, right, but
Speaker 3: he's from Atlanta, right, And he said, Yo, that nigga
Speaker 3: probably get you killed. You gotta swallow your pride to
Speaker 3: standing on stage like you gotta like when you say
Speaker 3: when you put those names together like these is greats.
Speaker 3: These are two cats that could have been Their lives
Speaker 3: could have been at the tick of a one tick
Speaker 3: of a line on the clock.
Speaker 2: Their lives could have went any kind of way. You
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: DMX left for legacy, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: Big L left a legacy. He ain't gonna drop a
Speaker 3: lot of album, but he left for legacy. He put
Speaker 3: all them cats on, he gave Yeah, he gave put
Speaker 3: all them hall them D D.
Speaker 2: I, T C.
Speaker 3: They still you know what I mean, They still repping that.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because when we do shows across the world,
Speaker 3: we do.
Speaker 2: Tribute.
Speaker 3: Tribute Yeah, the artists. I think every artist should probably
Speaker 3: have that, and they said.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and the DJ of course definitely.
Speaker 2: You know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yo, when you when these people are
Speaker 3: don't ever forget, Like we gotta gotta remind them how
Speaker 3: great hip hop is. It's not just a fat it
Speaker 3: ain't justa's wearing some cool clothes and a lot of jewelry.
Speaker 1: Reminded them how great snipping question, why did you guys
Speaker 1: ever change the name Smipping Western?
Speaker 2: Now that's the lawsuit? Because that was the lawsuit. So
Speaker 2: you're telling me.
Speaker 1: Because I ain't go lie this is some gangster ship.
Speaker 1: You're telling me the gun company. I want to know
Speaker 1: you assume me. Hold on, hold on, hold on, because
Speaker 1: there's no Twitter back then there's no Instagram. So you
Speaker 1: you go to the to the label and what.
Speaker 6: Was it like they sent us a book of a
Speaker 6: contract of a sense of saying itemized everything they made
Speaker 6: from being cans to the Hong clerk to saying they
Speaker 6: made and how we was confusing the consumers selling music.
Speaker 1: Different spelled different different. Yea.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing about the seacent decisions that is Smith
Speaker 3: and Wesson Smith and this is this is this is
Speaker 3: the ill think because when we got like it was
Speaker 3: certain parts like in the beginning, we had a lot
Speaker 3: of problems with people spelling our name.
Speaker 2: So when the magazines and interviews.
Speaker 3: And stuff like that, So I could see why cats
Speaker 3: would probably go yo boom if we had the paper
Speaker 3: to fight it, because we have some people that was
Speaker 3: going yo, now fight this.
Speaker 1: But dude, we just came in the game. We just
Speaker 1: came through the dude, that was our first album. They
Speaker 1: came right what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: They didn't even let us yes, yeah, yes, we just
Speaker 3: we're just getting like this, We're just mounting up.
Speaker 1: Like I thought this was not this.
Speaker 2: I thought this was later. This was your.
Speaker 6: First album. That that's what time between the next album.
Speaker 6: They came out as Coco Brothers.
Speaker 3: So it was a time where you could probably live
Speaker 3: a year both your album because you're gonna hit the roll,
Speaker 3: you're gonna come back, you're gonna chill, you're gonna hit
Speaker 3: the block.
Speaker 2: You're gonna burn your money.
Speaker 1: Up a little bit for me, I'm sorry, but it
Speaker 1: wasn't trying to collect from y'all.
Speaker 2: They was just telling you.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 1: It was like, yes, but this is the thing that's
Speaker 1: for Brooklyn nigga. That means the same thing.
Speaker 2: Basically, because what you do trying to stop the breath.
Speaker 1: What they did was the slick ship that there was.
Speaker 2: They said, uh, they put other people's.
Speaker 3: Names into the suit as we like they like all right,
Speaker 3: any advertisers magazine that.
Speaker 1: You like, reverse like the blackballing you without black balling everybody,
Speaker 1: they could sue the sauce.
Speaker 3: They were stacking up. Somebody want was playing dirty. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so yeah, we had to. We had to.
Speaker 1: We had to get our war our wall paint on hot.
Speaker 2: And then the niggas ended up going broke anyway, bankwet.
Speaker 1: Swimmers break.
Speaker 2: Car was a motherfucker.
Speaker 6: You couldn't you would have thought that what been we
Speaker 6: would have been to post the boys.
Speaker 1: For swim, don't jam, don't jam, just don't damn right,
Speaker 1: all the smiff and Wessons, but then also a Brooklyn
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: We was what that that.
Speaker 3: I don't know what you say as far as being hot,
Speaker 3: we knew that, we knew the Shining was making paper
Speaker 3: and we wanted to negotiate our contract. So we went in.
Speaker 3: We was dealing with that, mm hmm. And then we
Speaker 3: get hit with that at the same time. So we
Speaker 3: ain't had no backing. We're back in the street. We're like, oh, snap,
Speaker 3: label ain't gonna support the sixth covers us going in.
Speaker 3: So it was dangerous. We had to bust some move. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so we sat on that man, we thought about that
Speaker 3: that name changing, and thought about, you know, the impact
Speaker 3: that it would have the fans.
Speaker 1: And all of that stuff.
Speaker 2: It was tough. It was a tough decision.
Speaker 3: But and then what made you come up with Coco Brothers.
Speaker 3: We was already Coco bros.
Speaker 1: We was, we was.
Speaker 6: We were smoking a lot of weed back a lot
Speaker 6: of a lot of chocolate, and I just figured, let's
Speaker 6: you know, it might have came from a black Moon session.
Speaker 6: It ain't it ain't fish ain't fish.
Speaker 1: You know, somebody trying to make it so y'all wasn't
Speaker 1: putting on coco butter. Just roll with it.
Speaker 3: Go brothers through Chocolate Niggas them chocolate brothers.
Speaker 2: They go brothers, not go go bother.
Speaker 3: I don't even think that black Mon was smoking when
Speaker 3: we came around, man, Really yeah, I think like we
Speaker 3: you know, we was the dirty Brooklyn cats that he
Speaker 3: was influencers. Yeah, we was. We would go through every
Speaker 3: game that was good influence because they made a hell
Speaker 3: of an album. They made a hell of an album.
Speaker 3: Like you think about. We was the guys that were
Speaker 3: brave enough to go to Hall them and get the hydro.
Speaker 2: They have hydro on Brove first s.
Speaker 3: If you came around with one jar of hydro, you
Speaker 3: would trying to make two slips out of there. You know,
Speaker 3: there's like one little dumb like Brooklyn niggas ain't even
Speaker 3: buying that. Brookly Niggas is going to buy like five
Speaker 3: tray bags. And you know what I'm saying, Hi, Grid,
Speaker 3: We was going through every neighborhood, but the chocolate was
Speaker 3: the the smoke of choice.
Speaker 1: Of course, he's doing something, I think, yeah, And and
Speaker 1: he's doing something with cookies. I like that burn up.
Speaker 1: I think that's very honorable. Chance, yeah, I think yeah.
Speaker 2: But hold on, I don't know, probably.
Speaker 3: But also what was what was part of the discussion
Speaker 3: was we thought.
Speaker 2: About using tacking. Still that would have been they would
Speaker 2: have been dope.
Speaker 3: But we would have been given that name to something,
Speaker 3: to somebody, you know what I'm saying, like to have
Speaker 3: tech and still to have the label have that name. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that label would have that. Yeah, exactly have that name.
Speaker 3: So it's like, yeah, we had to fall back. Even then,
Speaker 3: we were smart enough to know something. We didn't know
Speaker 3: too much, but we were smart enough to know that
Speaker 3: we got to make some moves and we didn't want
Speaker 3: to stop.
Speaker 6: So I'm always going to be Smith and wasn't taking
Speaker 6: still right of course, of course, so.
Speaker 1: Let me ask, right, Dame Dash has this big thing
Speaker 1: about him calling people coach coaches, right, people, that's not
Speaker 1: a part of the culture that actually, you know, benefit
Speaker 1: the benefit of the culture. One thing that I noticed
Speaker 1: about you know, boot camp clips all of y'all is
Speaker 1: y'all have pretty much one of one of the same
Speaker 1: CEOs Drew Drew has. You know, physically, you could see
Speaker 1: he's not a black man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: But I've never publicly other than Sean Price sometimes like
Speaker 1: like saying it about Drew. I've never publicly seen any
Speaker 1: of y'all like speak about him out of character or
Speaker 1: like I don't see y'all calling him a coach. He don't.
Speaker 2: He don't present it like that. That's not his character.
Speaker 6: He came in the same time we came and so
Speaker 6: we know his intentions is real. Him and backgrounds is
Speaker 6: different from ours. Yeah, but yeah, him and Buck came in.
Speaker 6: He was interning at our first nervous records was a rum.
Speaker 2: Oh, he's literally a fly on the wall.
Speaker 1: But then there's a couple of money that's not that's
Speaker 1: that's why I ain't say that, Okay.
Speaker 6: But nah, he never he never disrespected us across the line,
Speaker 6: so it was no reason for us as men to
Speaker 6: disrespect him across the mines. Plus, we're getting bread together,
Speaker 6: were working together like him and Bucket partners like fifty
Speaker 6: to fifty partners. So if he's he's taking care of
Speaker 6: our brother, taking care of each other, and then Buck
Speaker 6: reaches back and bring us on, why should we downplay
Speaker 6: or a bad mouth anybody when we could He's giving
Speaker 6: us that same opportunity to bring Health Skelter and the
Speaker 6: next groups on.
Speaker 1: So so it's not like the easy Jerry Heller thing
Speaker 1: Nahn Drew could have could have split a long time ago.
Speaker 3: Man. One thing that made me like fall in love
Speaker 3: with Drew Man is early early in the days, right,
Speaker 3: he came with us to Brooklyn. I'm like, man, I
Speaker 3: love this guy.
Speaker 1: Drive the bridge, took the.
Speaker 6: Tree, super some ship pack up in the super you
Speaker 6: know that's that back joint white joint.
Speaker 1: Right, he would drive us the shows and ship. But
Speaker 1: he came to Brooklyn. That was it for me. Was
Speaker 1: I was like, holy Ship.
Speaker 3: We went the best style around Smoky Way and we
Speaker 3: went to the park and was playing basketball and Drew
Speaker 3: High was nice Ship White making jump white man, good jump.
Speaker 1: Athlete. Though he played the.
Speaker 3: Best he was he was, he was standing up, he
Speaker 3: was he wasn't acting all you know what I mean, Ship,
Speaker 3: I was proud of that day.
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, all right, And it wasn't nothing way
Speaker 6: you get you know, and a lot of people have
Speaker 6: hitting agendas, the joints. You can really see through it
Speaker 6: when yeah, I believe if.
Speaker 2: You cut juha he believe who can't.
Speaker 6: Clear that's a fact you believe, call one of us
Speaker 6: on the phone, you cut them, But.
Speaker 2: Like, I believe that's what.
Speaker 7: And it's evident in what y'all created that family. You
Speaker 7: could see it like that was really inspirational to a
Speaker 7: lot of people, that family who can't click thing that
Speaker 7: wasn't normal at the time.
Speaker 2: Yet we didn't have a lot.
Speaker 1: Of that see.
Speaker 6: And again I think that's when you asked earlier about
Speaker 6: like a lot of families are raised military minded, a
Speaker 6: military style. You might not even know it, but your
Speaker 6: dad and your brother being there. So when you put
Speaker 6: that out and especially now you're doing music to it,
Speaker 6: and you got people that look like you and talk
Speaker 6: like you, you can relate to that. So now your
Speaker 6: your mind is is already introduced. But now you're seeing, oh,
Speaker 6: I'm just like this, I do right, fa tease. I
Speaker 6: am a military mind and I keep it in the heart.
Speaker 6: I want to shine and help my other brother shine.
Speaker 6: So it's easier to relate to it like that.
Speaker 1: How do y'all keep y'all y'all? You know, because you know,
Speaker 1: you know, being in you know these are both my partners,
Speaker 1: you know, being in groups you know, you go through
Speaker 1: turmoil and guys are both in the public's eye. How
Speaker 1: do y'all keep y'all like because one thing we don't see.
Speaker 1: We don't see y'all beefing with just you know, and
Speaker 1: of course through the business it has to be some
Speaker 1: things that y'all don't agree with through you know, relationships
Speaker 1: got to be things you don't agree with. How do
Speaker 1: y'all maintain y'all you know, discrepancies in house?
Speaker 6: Let's all do His answer probably be totally different demands, right,
Speaker 6: but that's all through faith. And like you said, this
Speaker 6: is this is my brother, this is like this wasn't
Speaker 6: a dude that lives in Brownsville. I lived on the
Speaker 6: sty and the record label put us together. We was
Speaker 6: already hand the hand in the dirt doing what he
Speaker 6: was doing before the record all that ship, all that
Speaker 6: ship and ship. I'm not even his original partner. He
Speaker 6: had like two partners before me.
Speaker 1: Damn somebody somebody now, because for me, it wasn't when
Speaker 1: we first started.
Speaker 6: I was just a security put two words together to Rob.
Speaker 6: Except for Tis Ski doing graffiti or whatever, I'm just
Speaker 6: while he's doing talent shows and winning.
Speaker 2: I'm just to get in the game.
Speaker 6: For me, I wanted to be an engineer, producer, to
Speaker 6: be behind the scene and just Mike is back. But
Speaker 6: you know, god, I ain't see it like that. He
Speaker 6: wrote my first rap. That's dope, that's great.
Speaker 1: That's like Prodigy and Avoc. I believe Havoc wrote pro
Speaker 1: disease first fine didn't. Yeah, they said that's crazy, but
Speaker 1: first round Annoyed wrote your first round annoyed.
Speaker 4: But I used to have all because I used to
Speaker 4: I used to have all equipment in the crib, so
Speaker 4: they we used to record them a crib cock bone.
Speaker 1: It was fun. It was fun. That's not fun.
Speaker 4: We go back, well beat Annoyed, you know, it was fun.
Speaker 4: But that's why I like y'all. Like I like that
Speaker 4: story climbers like that. We like little kids story.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when you think about boot camp, like boot camp
Speaker 3: is primarily family and like when you say faith, it's
Speaker 3: crazy because like we really we some movie watching cats too,
Speaker 3: So like one of our favorite movies is The Shaun
Speaker 3: And on the Shing they talk about like communicating Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: they about communicating without communicating, communicating like almost like like
Speaker 3: so it's times when you know, I know your brother's
Speaker 3: probably experienced this too, where he was like, damn me
Speaker 3: and this me and this cat is so close that
Speaker 3: it's like we are meet up in the place. We
Speaker 3: ain't talk or nothing, we're meet up in the place
Speaker 3: at the same time. Were going somewhere, or maybe we
Speaker 3: dressed alike.
Speaker 2: Niggas.
Speaker 3: Don't think we was on the phone like on some
Speaker 3: Bopsy twin ship. But sometimes you just be like and
Speaker 3: it be creepy, it be trippy, but it's dope, Like, Yo,
Speaker 3: this is not this is real. When you start really
Speaker 3: buying into it, it's like, yo, this is real. Thank you,
Speaker 3: this is real. So it's like we we play those
Speaker 3: angles and then you got a big squad and you
Speaker 3: know at some point you have a you have a hierarchy,
Speaker 3: but then you have this big brother little brother democracy
Speaker 3: and we really just learning on the job training. So whatever,
Speaker 3: we'll go out in the field, come back to the
Speaker 3: little hut and were kicking it with the rest of
Speaker 3: the teammates, were sharing amongst the cat. It's no split up,
Speaker 3: no son in them going over here. Niggas is different.
Speaker 3: They changed. So you watching the cubs, they're trying to
Speaker 3: they taking it from you. Some of them gonna get
Speaker 3: on with some raps. Some of them gonna probably do
Speaker 3: some film stuff and pick up somewhere and you know,
Speaker 3: try to eat that food.
Speaker 2: And we got to add on to that.
Speaker 6: I think it's kind of that that uh helped us
Speaker 6: out in the long run because even though he came
Speaker 6: from a big crew, we didn't go sign with a
Speaker 6: dev gym and this one go sign with that label
Speaker 6: and this we all kept it independent. What was duck
Speaker 6: Down our own ship. And I think that that that
Speaker 6: carried some weight with us.
Speaker 2: That carried a lot away because we didn't have no cosign.
Speaker 1: Was your owners and duck Down or had a piece
Speaker 1: of it or no.
Speaker 3: We discussed it, Okay, we disgusted, but you know it
Speaker 3: was It's a roller coaster, man, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And in all honesty, you watch you watching cash like
Speaker 3: Drew hot put in a lot of work, a lot
Speaker 3: of work. You know, he could have jumped ship a
Speaker 3: long time.
Speaker 7: And he's probably learning at the same time. We always
Speaker 7: living learn job training.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: He around other casts. You know, you we we've all
Speaker 3: been in the game for some time. So you know,
Speaker 3: the sharks, the votures, the coach of voters, for real.
Speaker 3: A lot of people just like they're trying to get
Speaker 3: all this, They trying to get drew high to costs,
Speaker 3: like you could just come over here and you know
Speaker 3: what I mean, why you were with them boot camps.
Speaker 3: They're not even chanting right now, like what's really good?
Speaker 3: Like you know what I'm saying, But.
Speaker 2: How about the masters?
Speaker 1: Everyone is getting their masters back after twenty five years.
Speaker 1: That's something that you guys are keep blowing the amount
Speaker 1: of years, thirty five, thirty thirty five five next episode
Speaker 1: years for you. I just think it's been it's always
Speaker 1: been twenty five negotiating right now on my twenty five
Speaker 1: on my solo. But that's what Kane and he said
Speaker 1: thirty five, they said thirty.
Speaker 2: Thirty five, they said thirty five. It's not.
Speaker 1: But they in long.
Speaker 2: That's when I changed the numbers.
Speaker 1: Was because of Kane as special because they said theirty
Speaker 1: five just always twenty five. Maybe it's not still for
Speaker 1: my soul on right right, Remember what I'm saying, Diego,
Speaker 1: the Normy album is a separate thing. It's not under
Speaker 1: the component Noriega thing. I've always heard the number of thirty.
Speaker 1: I don't know if that it was thirty.
Speaker 6: Yeah right, but we we just started seeing residuals off
Speaker 6: of the.
Speaker 3: Shining Wow, the first album very first, just now seeing
Speaker 3: just now so I should put away this and what
Speaker 3: was it? This? U?
Speaker 1: No, that was what priority?
Speaker 2: Yeah it's priority?
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that that one know the Shining Oh no,
Speaker 3: duck Down had with priority.
Speaker 1: Yeah that's not priority. No, no, see there, I can't see.
Speaker 1: That's Nervous.
Speaker 3: This just Shining is Nervous, that's not Yeah, okay, Nervous
Speaker 3: Records shin this one which was an independent, which was initially.
Speaker 2: A damn the label, Yeah, Nervous and Ji was some
Speaker 2: ship like that.
Speaker 1: Nervous was a dance what just like the labels at home.
Speaker 7: His pops Barry was a dance label too. What was
Speaker 7: that That label? Freeze was a dance label too. No,
Speaker 7: ain't cared about Freeze and tell me boy it was
Speaker 7: a dance label. Yes, but he came from his pops
Speaker 7: was running. His pops was running you know, big up,
Speaker 7: big up to Mike Weiss. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 7: because you know his father put him on. His pops
Speaker 7: was running the label.
Speaker 2: That's Nervous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, before it was Nervous, it was like my Sam
Speaker 3: or something like that, and his pops was doing you know,
Speaker 3: label record label ship, big Red and all of that,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: And he put his.
Speaker 3: Son on and his son was sticking to the program generational.
Speaker 3: So you know, I think I think we probably was
Speaker 3: the first rap cat. Black Moon kicked in the door
Speaker 3: for real, and it was like the front one of
Speaker 3: the first guys.
Speaker 2: And Flex was over there.
Speaker 1: And that's came from there's a lot of sense.
Speaker 2: Now have love boots at that time, No, not yet, No,
Speaker 2: he was just.
Speaker 3: Put old vinyl boots, Channel Live, Channel Live, a lot
Speaker 3: of dope releases.
Speaker 2: Actually that was and it was a good volume.
Speaker 3: One brook something that was putting life like that color
Speaker 3: not Frankie Color No, No, Yeahmby Knuckles No, no Frankie Knuckles.
Speaker 1: The DJ and there was a Brooklyn something that you
Speaker 1: can put out like DJ records, I forget something.
Speaker 2: So we we.
Speaker 3: We came in there on some hip hop vibe. And
Speaker 3: you know, when we had that situation with the Gun
Speaker 3: company and with them renewing, we left them eventually, but
Speaker 3: we the name was on hold.
Speaker 2: This is another reason we had to switch it up
Speaker 2: to We couldn't.
Speaker 3: Use it but after twenty five years we sat down
Speaker 3: with them and discussed how.
Speaker 1: The gun company no no, no, the label okay.
Speaker 3: Yeah, discuss how that would be, that would be something else.
Speaker 3: We definitely got to, you know, because they made a
Speaker 3: lot of mock thats man. But yeah, it's good, like
Speaker 3: it's good to go, like it's good to move on
Speaker 3: because you know that all that btterness that don't that
Speaker 3: don't make for happy record things.
Speaker 1: That's real. So now this is something I always wanted
Speaker 1: to ask. Spanish Hall, Yes, I record. First off, I
Speaker 1: thought that that was honorable two brothers. You know, I'm
Speaker 1: half Puerto weecand so I always recognized.
Speaker 2: I love that.
Speaker 1: I love the fact that when you know, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm both I got the best Black jokes and I
Speaker 1: got the best Spanish drudges. Got both got two of
Speaker 1: the racist grandfathers.
Speaker 2: Both of them was racist. Best joke.
Speaker 1: But one thing I always is to hear on on
Speaker 1: Spanish by the way recipes Hurricane Hurricane Rican Tony.
Speaker 2: That touches as well.
Speaker 1: But I believe it's you and you say on the
Speaker 1: streets of Harlem by the Grand Concourse, there wasn't nothing
Speaker 1: near each other, sir.
Speaker 16: Yeah, no, wait a minute, why in jen you know.
Speaker 2: He's super Panny, super Panny.
Speaker 3: I always wanted to be like, wait a minute, all right,
Speaker 3: all right, and I just say this right, I'm a Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: I'm a Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: You know you Hall them is like uptown, like Uptoimes.
Speaker 2: I was like, so that's not the same thing, like.
Speaker 1: Because at that time we used to take uptown. It's uptown,
Speaker 1: it was up, it was uptown. But you got to
Speaker 1: realize hallm wrong.
Speaker 3: But hall them is with the Puerto Ricans mostly racist
Speaker 3: and uhen you when you want a concourse, are gonna
Speaker 3: be a lot of the D're gonna be a deal? Yes,
Speaker 3: probably copping something. You probably right right, but it's true. Now,
Speaker 3: I grew up around I grew up in Brownsville. I
Speaker 3: grew up around Puerto Ricans like I didn'tdn't. I didn't
Speaker 3: even know the difference Puerto Rican Dominican. I didn't know
Speaker 3: nothing about that. I was like Puerto Ricans. I wanted
Speaker 3: to hang around Puerto Rican I thought they was cool
Speaker 3: to ship.
Speaker 1: Bush was some of the best port of Spanish I
Speaker 1: ever had, the best Puerto Ricans, the.
Speaker 2: Best port Ofrian food.
Speaker 1: I about to say you know what I mean, But
Speaker 1: I would say but in genermal because I had Dominican
Speaker 1: food in bush Wick as well, So I don't want
Speaker 1: to just label it Puerto Ricans, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So I had like, yeah, I didn't know the difference. Man,
Speaker 3: It's crazy because like you good, like even you growing
Speaker 3: up around like even with black people, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Like you just the West Indian, you know
Speaker 3: you and flat, but you got all kind of West
Speaker 3: hate you like you don't even people don't even really yet,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying. Like even like that's why
Speaker 3: you give thanks for hip hop too, because it allows
Speaker 3: us to embrace that.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 2: Other than that, it's like we're just trying to keep
Speaker 2: it to ourselves.
Speaker 1: Like you don't.
Speaker 3: Know you your your culture is represents you.
Speaker 2: It is dope, right, that's kind of fly.
Speaker 1: I mean that's why I love the fact that y'all
Speaker 1: even did that record, because the fact is one I
Speaker 1: knew what y'all was was doing, and I knew, like
Speaker 1: you know, to be because it's a difference between and
Speaker 1: I'm sorry for my.
Speaker 2: White people that's here.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes they say that the white people as guested
Speaker 1: in hip hop and to a certain extent, I understand
Speaker 1: what that means.
Speaker 2: I understand what you mean.
Speaker 1: But when you're looking at you know, breaking, and you're
Speaker 1: looking at all that the Puerto Ricans was there, bro,
Speaker 1: it was bringing out straight paint.
Speaker 2: They was doing everything.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Or so I love the
Speaker 1: fact that y'all yeah, yeah did that.
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, Spanish Hall.
Speaker 3: We students at the games. That's the beauty of us.
Speaker 3: So we appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And tone touch was like you said, on that way,
Speaker 2: he's Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he's a legends shut out to his documentary,
Speaker 3: legend legendary DJ Tate and.
Speaker 1: He got his documentary out. You're an interview for it.
Speaker 1: I didn't make the cut. You didn't make the cut.
Speaker 1: Miami was a representative shout out should have been on
Speaker 1: that fact.
Speaker 2: That's a fact. Okay, So I don't feel that bad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I still shout out Tony Touches for making
Speaker 1: that documentary.
Speaker 2: Man, that's big man. I'm gonna change it up a
Speaker 2: little bit.
Speaker 1: On one time, right, you said the nerves and the
Speaker 1: calasthetics keep me healthy. You was on that just back
Speaker 1: a calisthetics do a body justice. I'm listening I'm like
Speaker 1: better back then.
Speaker 6: Yeah, we was. Again, that's family, that's in you already.
Speaker 6: You wake up and you do you see your dad
Speaker 6: is healthy, your brother's health. You want to be what
Speaker 6: you see, You want to imitate.
Speaker 1: That coming from like being like like Jamaican Caribbean side.
Speaker 1: What is that called blest bless? I don't know, I'm
Speaker 1: not Jamaican.
Speaker 2: At one point.
Speaker 6: From that just comes from jumping off to stop early
Speaker 6: and what you see you want to imitate. And I
Speaker 6: have strong men in my family. Before it was the streets.
Speaker 6: It was family already, so doing push ups and my
Speaker 6: mom's was a minister. My pots was a musician, so
Speaker 6: it's in the blood and meeting with him it was
Speaker 6: already workout me.
Speaker 2: I used to box, so it was it was work.
Speaker 2: It was a thing for me. You got the tattoo ship.
Speaker 6: Came from a uh from Adam, my man potato. I
Speaker 6: think his son was turning like five, so it was
Speaker 6: just his potato. Yeah exactly.
Speaker 3: We don't know anything about my son.
Speaker 6: His son was turned out maybe five or seven. So
Speaker 6: he had a party in a spot, you know, and
Speaker 6: there's the adults and the kids, but nobody is really
Speaker 6: fucking with each other, with them kids and the kids like.
Speaker 6: So it was like, Yo, you should get there. You
Speaker 6: should that face painting over there. You should let her
Speaker 6: put the tyson tattoo.
Speaker 1: The kids I brought you. That's how you break, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean?
Speaker 2: So it was it was play. It was it was
Speaker 2: the paint whatever this ship was.
Speaker 1: But but it's something about drinks was flowing in.
Speaker 3: Was like that ship was like everybody like you fit, you.
Speaker 1: Liked you might just got my dumb ass, like what
Speaker 1: it like this ship, dude?
Speaker 3: Not that same night that I went and got tested
Speaker 3: the way Hannah though, when I got Hannah should burnt into.
Speaker 6: That's like it's like a sure and my dumb ass
Speaker 6: got it in the summer and it actually burnt into
Speaker 6: my skin. So I was only supposed to lead a
Speaker 6: he interrupted for like maybe a couple of days being
Speaker 6: at it burnt in and wasn't even when I watched
Speaker 6: it away, You've still seeing the I was like, oh nah,
Speaker 6: my Mom's just like, look, dumb ass, you might just
Speaker 6: go all the way now. So I went to the
Speaker 6: joint got it.
Speaker 1: I just did.
Speaker 2: I couldn't go the.
Speaker 1: Whole ship with it.
Speaker 2: So what did Tyson say. When he first saw you,
Speaker 2: he was like, we're from the same tribe.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, you gotta shut out to.
Speaker 3: When I got this, we was it wasn't like it
Speaker 3: is now and the whole abundant of rappers with no face.
Speaker 1: It wasn't at all.
Speaker 6: It was right, So this ain't nothing that was. It
Speaker 6: still had its meaning to still a warrior ship like
Speaker 6: the Predators. Very tribal.
Speaker 1: There.
Speaker 2: But yeah, that's the way it came from. That's crazy.
Speaker 1: So so on one time you said, spoke about the calistatics,
Speaker 1: talked about being healthy. But this is something I always
Speaker 1: wanted to ask you to ask both of y'all too.
Speaker 1: Is that the care us one sample of you? Out
Speaker 1: of here? Do you ever think about when you're out
Speaker 1: of here? Is that the same beat? Or I've been
Speaker 1: bucking for years? Yeah, one time, one time, I don't
Speaker 1: think it was out yet, out of here, out of him? Okay, So,
Speaker 1: so did you're telling me Carres one sample job because
Speaker 1: at the end that that's out of here.
Speaker 2: Beat, it wasn't. I don't think so, so did you?
Speaker 3: My lifeline mister, it's on the one time record, Get
Speaker 3: miss the Walk, Get mister w on the uh on
Speaker 3: the phone over here, Well, weal can clear that one out.
Speaker 2: We will definitely know.
Speaker 1: He could tell you either what city he got the
Speaker 1: record from Timeline.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know now.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 2: So we came year after.
Speaker 1: Oh so then it could have been possible. Possible, could
Speaker 1: be the same time.
Speaker 2: It's possible, yeah, hip hop man.
Speaker 6: Then it wasn't. They was chopping and doing everything clear.
Speaker 6: It wasn't clear or nothing. Man, if you hear it,
Speaker 6: you hear it. Other than that, it's like, let's go.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of that going on.
Speaker 3: I guess I never even put that together.
Speaker 2: And out of here is my ship too, Like.
Speaker 1: You ever think about when you're out of here?
Speaker 2: That's a creatible. One of my favorite KR Rush joints
Speaker 2: is was gonna get you.
Speaker 1: I was gonna get you.
Speaker 2: He spoke on that.
Speaker 1: It was like, I was gonna get you millimeter.
Speaker 3: Y.
Speaker 4: Come on, man, I have my kids singing this song
Speaker 4: in the car like ten years ago.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 3: That's all they do.
Speaker 2: You.
Speaker 1: I'm on point man, A lot of you for years.
Speaker 1: This this is not new question.
Speaker 6: Were talking about it like yo, this man, nor re
Speaker 6: brain is is it's a retarded crazy you haven't story
Speaker 6: inredible man aggressing. And I'm like, we see what it is, and.
Speaker 1: You know what it is like because you know, I
Speaker 1: got a relationship with your brothers, and you know what
Speaker 1: I mean, like like I look at your brothers like family.
Speaker 1: But the thing is, I don't want to ever that
Speaker 1: to ever come.
Speaker 2: In the way of me being fan.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, because you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 1: I really thought about this. I know I'm jumping off
Speaker 1: the subject, but I looked at I kept looking at
Speaker 1: carras One the other day, right, and I was like, Yo,
Speaker 1: if you take hip hop out of cares One, I
Speaker 1: won't even know who this person is. Just think about that,
Speaker 1: like the way care rest Walk is hip hop. Like
Speaker 1: I don't even think he could. I don't think he
Speaker 1: could do anything, yo. And then when I thought about him,
Speaker 1: I thought about all of us? Can I say? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Because I was like, your cast might be like a
Speaker 1: funny dude without hip hop, Like he might be a
Speaker 1: weird off, right, And I said, And then I looked
Speaker 1: in the mirror, I said, how about you. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: changing right right, all of us? Right of us?
Speaker 3: Nah, but that could potentially be like an incredible skit,
Speaker 3: an incredible movie from Who's.
Speaker 1: The Man movie? Remember how Who's the Man? Everyone was
Speaker 1: in it, everything everyone in it as the person that
Speaker 1: you would be without Raw and without him a sort movie,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because because because that's everyone's cliche,
Speaker 1: everyone cliche. If I wasn't a rap, I'll be selling drugs.
Speaker 1: A lot of y'all lie, that's to buye you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like myself, a lot of us would
Speaker 1: be uber driving. Okay, you know what I mean, nothing
Speaker 1: wrong with that, you know what I mean? You know
Speaker 1: I mean telemarket is what I'm saying. I was looking,
Speaker 1: I was looking.
Speaker 2: I was thinking.
Speaker 1: I was like, listen, this picture, bust a round picture
Speaker 1: without him, and you know what I mean, Like, I
Speaker 1: don't think none of us would be the same person
Speaker 1: we are. But that's the funny thing about the movie
Speaker 1: is we got to make up the first people in
Speaker 1: an awkward differences like a multi verse. That is, though
Speaker 1: I'm glad I got that break, fe that that's been
Speaker 1: bothering me forever. Yeah, James, James, Yeah, let's talk about
Speaker 1: wipe your wipe your mouth. Let's talk about that for
Speaker 1: a second.
Speaker 2: How the funk did y'all come on?
Speaker 1: What is respectful ship with y'all on what kind of
Speaker 1: what kind of bubble gum was said?
Speaker 2: I mun just be di respectful on this record.
Speaker 6: Best Style, man, it ain't never been a form of
Speaker 6: transportation exactly.
Speaker 3: Hang reboy projects, Rainbow recipes, slew the big old pen
Speaker 3: and see you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Didn't Best Browns will have problems at that time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what makes our relations right.
Speaker 2: Doesn't make me a.
Speaker 1: Us.
Speaker 6: Getting together was at a time when Brownsville was at
Speaker 6: war with Best Style, but it was Wow, there was
Speaker 6: still certain niggas that fucked with each other. Wow, from
Speaker 6: the Style, from the veil, like Roll Road and the Family,
Speaker 6: all these niggas is still riding with each other because yeah,
Speaker 6: once you you know who you are, Like you said,
Speaker 6: you gotta find your.
Speaker 3: Tribe, that straight ship, that straight ship hash it hecktic
Speaker 3: though it was sketchy, you got to have you had
Speaker 3: your passport, had to be right as soon as you
Speaker 3: go up the hill past a certain line and get different.
Speaker 1: But it's a lot of y'all right, and like like
Speaker 1: you hear the stories of ghost Face and raised neighborhood
Speaker 1: like going crazy at each other, did y'all like the
Speaker 1: other members ever?
Speaker 3: Absolutely not, No, No, we carry ourselves differently, man. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know we're lucky, we're not just exempt. But again again,
Speaker 3: like we ran with de set like that's that's that
Speaker 3: was like you really didn't know where these guys would
Speaker 3: pop out what would call an alley way, but we
Speaker 3: we was in.
Speaker 1: We was pretty much in the deep SSS was the
Speaker 1: things back then. That was all a gang for all
Speaker 1: of Brooklyn. They was huge, bigger than Brooklyn. No bigger
Speaker 1: than Brooklyn, I'm saying.
Speaker 7: No, he said they were huge, like me, Were there
Speaker 7: deceps outside of Brooklyn?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Miami where.
Speaker 3: You have it's definitely some deceps in Miami, de House worldwide,
Speaker 3: some Decepts. Man, London, it's some, it's some you know
Speaker 3: those just like those was like it's crazy because we
Speaker 3: came up together, you know what I'm saying, and shout out,
Speaker 3: shout out to my man vict original original Low lives
Speaker 3: where Nigga used to run in the.
Speaker 1: Store and get and get busy. You know what I'm saying. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Bob Low.
Speaker 2: All the pumpkin rest in peace.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we A lot of people would like to
Speaker 3: say rivalries, but we grew up with them, A lot
Speaker 3: of a lot of them. Casts grew up in Brownsville.
Speaker 3: That's where I'm from, So like these are stomping grounds.
Speaker 3: Like me and Tech really went around neighborhoods. Wasn't those
Speaker 3: guys that stayed in where your your your your designated spot.
Speaker 1: We was adventurous.
Speaker 3: We was doing ship that we couldn't tell our parents
Speaker 3: when we got back. My moms ain't have a clue
Speaker 3: about a lot of stuff. So it's like, man, what
Speaker 3: it was? What my mom's ain't know? I was decept
Speaker 3: till like last year, I got somebody was running their
Speaker 3: mouth or something, and she's like, what.
Speaker 2: She was looking at me?
Speaker 1: You know you can feel somebody.
Speaker 2: Looking at I. I'm like, come on, man, that's it.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 1: Though.
Speaker 2: My pops used to be my prop.
Speaker 3: You know, he popped old school, even old school, but
Speaker 3: to you, we old school. And he used to call
Speaker 3: he was like, yo, duke duke, and I'm like, yo,
Speaker 3: you can't say duke in Brownsville. We say son in Brownsville.
Speaker 3: Duca's violations. You would get beat up for that back
Speaker 3: in the day you get beat up Browns with a
Speaker 3: niggas saying son that it was it was petty. But
Speaker 3: it's like it was, you survived through the petty ship.
Speaker 1: You got past cigarette cigarette.
Speaker 3: It's interesting when you go now is getting their head
Speaker 3: knocked off for colors and and and and uh, you know,
Speaker 3: hats and you know things of that nature. But there
Speaker 3: was always a battleground. Man.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. We came up in that ship.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you aliens come down.
Speaker 3: They already came down. They according to some people that they're.
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, they walk in here, you walk into bar plays.
Speaker 7: They came down or came up from the ocean, which
Speaker 7: one man, there's that they came from.
Speaker 2: Both they came.
Speaker 1: They stuck to you and they say, listen, I want
Speaker 1: one album to teach me human behavior? Hip hop album?
Speaker 1: Let people hip one hip hop album?
Speaker 2: What did you get human behavior or whatever?
Speaker 1: Just just how would you what hip hop album would
Speaker 1: you give? Do you want to get one one to
Speaker 1: represent humanity? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Hip hop at least hip hop humanity.
Speaker 4: Wowsers, I know what I would saying.
Speaker 3: What you were saying, then everything the War Report teachers
Speaker 3: to call the report.
Speaker 9: They're gonna start attacking us. You're gonna get niggas. I
Speaker 9: don't want you representing you. Men.
Speaker 6: It's a couple of different avenues you could go. You
Speaker 6: might even say education of Laurence Hill.
Speaker 2: Mis education and Lauren. That's a good Actually, that's a
Speaker 2: good one.
Speaker 1: That is a good one.
Speaker 2: That is a good dumb ass, men are not thinking.
Speaker 1: That, you know, Lauren only got one album?
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, if you're not counting the fujis yet. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's why I said Lauren.
Speaker 1: I ain't say the fuji.
Speaker 7: I mean, but you should count that because she carried
Speaker 7: those albums as well.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's not Lauren albums the fuji O. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying she's a big part of those albums.
Speaker 2: Yeah, one album. It's difficult, man, I think I would.
Speaker 2: I think I would have to take.
Speaker 1: A drink on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we're not drinking on this.
Speaker 1: We're not drinking. You you can.
Speaker 2: Drink round on me.
Speaker 1: I think you said that, you said the War report
Speaker 1: he taking us the war. Okay, what would you say?
Speaker 2: Damn?
Speaker 7: Man, I'm gonna go with the first Tribe album. I'm trying.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get the mellow with us man was
Speaker 1: not to be like I lost my walle to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was.
Speaker 3: Thinking something about one right because I'm thinking like criminal minded,
Speaker 3: not criminal minded. But it's like we were talking the
Speaker 3: other day when he has this song, I don't know
Speaker 3: what I was, love Loves going to get you?
Speaker 1: Like what album is that on?
Speaker 3: That was.
Speaker 1: That's gonna get your b DP?
Speaker 3: It would be, it would be And you know, I
Speaker 3: mean and I only say that because it's something that's
Speaker 3: like it gotta be well rounded.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: You gotta tell them about the hood. You gotta tell
Speaker 3: them about the dangers. You gotta get everything. You gotta
Speaker 3: give him some food from food for thought. You gotta
Speaker 3: let them enjoy themselves, you know what I mean, Like,
Speaker 3: don't scare them. But I think does that really well?
Speaker 3: Like yeah, matic Ellmatic is very intimidating. You think, yeah, man,
Speaker 3: they come on and come on lit when you come
Speaker 3: on with that first, I think when it come on,
Speaker 3: it's yeah, it's very uh, it's very hypnotics. When you
Speaker 3: start pulling text out the dressers and all that.
Speaker 2: When you start getting like and just the nigger.
Speaker 3: Right, but you but you're dropping gyms, you letting them
Speaker 3: know it's dangerous but you know I'm going through this.
Speaker 2: But yeah, man, it's it's.
Speaker 1: It's I think we just got to give him a mixtape.
Speaker 2: C compilation.
Speaker 3: Man, basic is stressed before leaven Earth. Here you go this,
Speaker 3: let's get Tony touch. No, no, you're gonna need that.
Speaker 3: You're gonna need to get the full the full meal.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: You could pick songs that would be interesting, but you know,
Speaker 3: if you can, albums would because there's something I guess
Speaker 3: the album would have to be a no.
Speaker 1: Skipper, right, you can't have to be a no skipper.
Speaker 1: No skipper's representing humanity. Yeah, so if they skip, we
Speaker 1: fu Yeah, what is this bullship? What is this bullshit?
Speaker 1: That one?
Speaker 2: They must die?
Speaker 1: They're not worried, you know, damn so ill Kane asked
Speaker 1: Kane the other day, and I was like, I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, like some of your lyrics, like you couldn't
Speaker 1: you couldn't have got away with it different times, different times. Now,
Speaker 1: there was a specific lyrics that we heard before you
Speaker 1: got here. We didn't I'm not gonna mention I mentioned one. No, No,
Speaker 1: we didn't mention the one. I'm not mentioning, all right,
Speaker 1: I mentioned he said he said, Damn, I wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been able to get.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say it that y'all.
Speaker 1: Y'all tell me if you have one of your own lyrics,
Speaker 1: K said, He said, I think from eight to eighty, blind, crippled,
Speaker 1: and great.
Speaker 2: You didn't repeat that again?
Speaker 1: This is a horlee. Yeah, I stop repeating it.
Speaker 2: Sorry, it's it, that's it.
Speaker 1: It's history. And listen, I love is my my my
Speaker 1: one record. I hate and as I get the job done,
Speaker 1: and that's that's work.
Speaker 2: That is from that same.
Speaker 1: Work, that's the same joy. So I analyzed that way
Speaker 1: too much. No, man, but is there any lyrics that
Speaker 1: you have for back then that you was like, man,
Speaker 1: you listen to now and be like, man, I got
Speaker 1: a couple.
Speaker 3: Like wait a minute, but absolutely then. I can't think
Speaker 3: of that specific personally, but I listened to some ship
Speaker 3: and I'm like, damn, Like you know, you it be
Speaker 3: lines where you use lines, or you use a word
Speaker 3: a lot sh yourself using the words. Like we had
Speaker 3: a meeting in the studio one time it was like, yo,
Speaker 3: we stopped putting words that you can't use.
Speaker 2: Can you imagine that?
Speaker 3: That's like, yeah, man, it was difficult, but but you.
Speaker 2: Start seeing the pattern.
Speaker 3: He was like, oh shit, you gotta start spanning your
Speaker 3: vocabulary a little bit. Like you start sounding you got
Speaker 3: these cruis. You start sounding and like black woman starting
Speaker 3: the West, ohc starts sounding like healthy skeelter, Like that's
Speaker 3: gonna that's whack.
Speaker 2: You're gonna rents after that.
Speaker 3: And it's a good challenge, man, Or just read some
Speaker 3: books that Sean Prices say, read some books these scholastic packs. Man,
Speaker 3: niggas need to can't be afraid of knowledge. Man, you
Speaker 3: gotta get smart. Man, it's gonna it's gonna help you
Speaker 3: thank me later.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Sorry about somebody you know? Unique?
Speaker 1: Sean Price was what try invited them to come see
Speaker 1: me in my hood, right and I told him it's
Speaker 1: a barbecue. So he came. But he was like but
Speaker 1: but he was like, I'm on raba dog came. He
Speaker 1: came to a barbecue, a.
Speaker 2: Gatorade go together. You being on in the barbecue. I
Speaker 2: was clear as a barbecue. You know how unique he was.
Speaker 1: I was like, I was like, yo, I could never
Speaker 1: imitate this moment right here.
Speaker 2: Like when I just sat with him, it was what
Speaker 2: you say is what you get yeah, and he can
Speaker 2: be smiling. Would you would be dead? SIMI At the
Speaker 2: same time, like he wasn't afraid.
Speaker 1: That Richard Pryor man.
Speaker 6: Tell you what was on his mind and why it
Speaker 6: was on his mind, and it ain't really too much
Speaker 6: you can do about it after that.
Speaker 1: Like I used to hang out with this kid and
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say his name, but he knows who
Speaker 1: he is. And I used to tell him. I used
Speaker 1: to say, yo, man, every rapper is talking about Rose,
Speaker 1: every rapper is talking about fucking drinking Ace of Spade,
Speaker 1: every rapper is talking about and this this kid couldn't
Speaker 1: even buy back a weed. And I was like, why
Speaker 1: don't you just embrace that? Embrace the fact that the
Speaker 1: broken rapperver brokeus rapper ever and when like Sean Price
Speaker 1: did it, but you know that he had opportunities and
Speaker 1: places that that other people did. I always told this artist.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, do this from the beginning, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like, do you think people should
Speaker 1: live their truths like that?
Speaker 6: Keep it in the heart you haven't made Once you
Speaker 6: recognize who you are in the mirror, is gonna make
Speaker 6: your life easier to live with and.
Speaker 7: Deal with and I think that's hip hop authenticity to
Speaker 7: me is genuinely to be hip hop.
Speaker 6: But just because that's where you start at, that don't
Speaker 6: mean where you're going to end up. It you're going
Speaker 6: to start then eventually what you want or speaking into
Speaker 6: existing is gonna come along your path.
Speaker 1: But you have to start where you at.
Speaker 6: You can't just you ain't waking up in unless a
Speaker 6: brink truck falling in front of your crib turning over you.
Speaker 2: Other than that, you got to accept who you are
Speaker 2: and walk that way.
Speaker 3: And it's it's not it's not a it's no rule
Speaker 3: that says hip hop has to talk about opulence, you know,
Speaker 3: like it's it's a it's it's a it's a creative tool,
Speaker 3: like it's a tool that's used for.
Speaker 2: Expression, however you expressed it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, like we had we listened to the Hall, the Hall,
Speaker 3: remember that the Hall?
Speaker 1: What is that his dis record yesterday becaus eminem.
Speaker 3: Ship.
Speaker 2: I mean, and he created a whole persona.
Speaker 1: I mean himself as well.
Speaker 3: That's really definitely so, I mean it doesn't work for everybody. Now,
Speaker 3: what's real is that you got some sharks out here,
Speaker 3: like you got dudes like common and black thought like
Speaker 3: these guys can put some words together and meaningful words,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. You got a guy like
Speaker 3: three thousand like one and clearly are argument one of
Speaker 3: the top guy.
Speaker 2: You can't even put him on the throw on the list.
Speaker 2: You got to take him to when the aliens can
Speaker 2: bring on.
Speaker 3: And right.
Speaker 1: Andre is so cool. He's like he eyeing his clothes
Speaker 1: in seven years and none of us said nothing. None
Speaker 1: of us said, that's like yeah, like he sleep under
Speaker 1: the bed.
Speaker 2: Nobody here like nobody. He's an artist.
Speaker 1: I like that.
Speaker 3: I like that. I like the creative aspect, and I
Speaker 3: like that. I like the journey too. I like the
Speaker 3: journey because sometimes sometimes when you're talking to real it
Speaker 3: seems fake.
Speaker 2: You're putting on the.
Speaker 3: Show and you're doing it and it's like you you're
Speaker 3: an a I, but you're a real nigga.
Speaker 2: I don't get it. I don't I don't go together
Speaker 2: for me.
Speaker 3: So like for me, Sean Price showed me another side
Speaker 3: of being honest, you know, like so and so so
Speaker 3: so it's like how you deal with your your younger pride,
Speaker 3: be honest, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's not really like that for me and it's not bad.
Speaker 3: Like growing up in the ghetto, we thought we was poor.
Speaker 3: But you you're eating every day some of us. You
Speaker 3: know what I'm saying. I grew up with both of
Speaker 3: my parents. My mom's in my paw. It was it was,
Speaker 3: it was, it was, it was, it was, it was.
Speaker 3: It was that was that's rich, that's rich, that's valuable,
Speaker 3: that's wealthy.
Speaker 1: It was crazy. It was crazy in the crib behind
Speaker 1: them doors, it was it was.
Speaker 2: It was. It was showtime appreciated.
Speaker 3: It seemed like it was life. I'm looking at photographs.
Speaker 3: I see pictures. I had stuff I ain't have. I
Speaker 3: ain't had a shelter ads, but I had the other ones, you.
Speaker 2: Know with the five strikes. No, I had the soft toes.
Speaker 3: I mean you know yeah, it took me a minute
Speaker 3: from school, Like you gotta appreciate that, man, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like you got you got, you got you gotta think
Speaker 3: about like you ship man. We influenced by guys like
Speaker 3: ro Kim that really was teaching us while we was,
Speaker 3: like he said, thinking of a mask.
Speaker 2: He wasn't was sweating.
Speaker 7: Side crazy that he wasn't cursing.
Speaker 3: It was so it was it was it was, it was,
Speaker 3: it was, it was hypnotic. You didn't pay attention. You
Speaker 3: ain't even kid for you didn't miss it. You didn't
Speaker 3: miss it exactly. So he was telling the journey of
Speaker 3: every little kid that went outside that ain't had no bread.
Speaker 2: What I'm gonna do today? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: You kicking rocks, kicking cans, and you might get into
Speaker 3: some trouble around as soon as you've been that left.
Speaker 3: You see thunning them over there, You're like, oh man, should.
Speaker 1: I go over there?
Speaker 2: Should I go to the sandparm?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 3: So you you want to you you you adventure, you
Speaker 3: know which way you want to go? You know.
Speaker 7: Before we get out of here, though, cause I know
Speaker 7: we're gonna get out one more I want to get
Speaker 7: one thing off. Is that thank y'all for being on
Speaker 7: my twenty fifteen album.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 2: Every time I when it goes.
Speaker 7: Back to mixtapes, just doing mixtapes, they always showed up
Speaker 7: like you guys did as well, y'alllwys showed up. And
Speaker 7: then when it came to my doing my first album,
Speaker 7: my studio album, y'all showed up and Sean P showed up, Yes,
Speaker 7: and I actually wanted to do the video and then
Speaker 7: he passed shortly, you know, after recording the record that
Speaker 7: he did for me.
Speaker 2: So thank y'all. Man, appreciate y'all, thank you, Thank you all.
Speaker 1: A part of like the two man groups right now,
Speaker 1: the back and forth. Who do y'all think in the
Speaker 1: two man group? Who is the ultimate back and forth
Speaker 1: two man when they're going back and forth with let's
Speaker 1: talking about in and out? You know, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying aside from us, I.
Speaker 2: Mean you canna say, y'all, yeah.
Speaker 3: Man, I mean it's from I like to answer in
Speaker 3: the fact. Aside from us, it would be like, oh,
Speaker 3: damn't think about it. I got saying that one studio
Speaker 3: and that was when you say the tortures was.
Speaker 1: Handed handed down. They was. It was like here you
Speaker 1: go definitely like you say one word.
Speaker 7: Damn okay, and then you reinvent styles because then you
Speaker 7: have y'all.
Speaker 1: And then M O.
Speaker 3: P came with it crazy with it. You know, wow,
Speaker 3: energy is hike it up. I mean true say run
Speaker 3: d M C had.
Speaker 1: M come on man sucking up. It was that, but
Speaker 1: it wasn't. I ain't gonna lie. I don't think run
Speaker 1: was going and now.
Speaker 2: They was doing it.
Speaker 1: They was doing I'm saying, no, no, no, no, I'm saying
Speaker 1: in and out is we're having the same conversation. Like
Speaker 1: I'm saying, what's something he's saying, I'm here, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, like very specific with it. That's what
Speaker 1: that's that's why you want us to DJ you.
Speaker 2: Know, say B E. P. M. D.
Speaker 3: Smith and Western l o X. Yeah, no disrespect l
Speaker 3: o X. I see the back and forth with them
Speaker 3: like that. Man, I mean, they gladiate this man. So
Speaker 3: when they when they do the back and forth.
Speaker 2: To me, you say you like the better individually. I
Speaker 2: suppose that.
Speaker 1: I'm going, Okay, I can.
Speaker 4: See it sounds you know, I like, I like the
Speaker 4: different you back and forth.
Speaker 1: One one don't sound like the other. Like one.
Speaker 2: But that's what's killing ship too.
Speaker 3: They don't.
Speaker 7: I don't think they get enough enough respective they should
Speaker 7: now today right and they were hell do especially right
Speaker 7: he does effects on drink Champ.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but I'm gonna agree with y'all on the in
Speaker 1: and out on the internet. I actually believe that, you know,
Speaker 1: because me just listening to the camaraderie out of camaraderie, camaraderie.
Speaker 1: Always I'm listening to it's like I know the difference
Speaker 1: in the voice patterns, but it still takes me a minute,
Speaker 1: like which which means that y'are class.
Speaker 2: The difference between me and poem.
Speaker 1: Poem's voice is so much deeper than minds or mine's
Speaker 1: stupid than his, and his is like a little like
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? So you at the same No,
Speaker 1: that was in the disc that was like because it's
Speaker 1: like almost scratch, yeah almost almost, Like how like if
Speaker 1: you deep is pretty much the same like you gotta
Speaker 1: but like sometimes this ship is hot, My ship is deep,
Speaker 1: all right? Joint how you approached the Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, I'll be hearing some I'll be hearing some joints.
Speaker 3: It is like, damn, that's that ship kind of came
Speaker 3: out pretty good. But then also like you gotta think,
Speaker 3: like we spent some time in the in the in
Speaker 3: the in the dugout watching Black Boom, and although it's
Speaker 3: a group, it's three men, it's it's one of the
Speaker 3: men is a lead.
Speaker 2: He's the lead of the group.
Speaker 3: He's doing primarily all of the hits, all of the
Speaker 3: song Buckshot is doing all the hits, right, So we're
Speaker 3: sitting there going there, how do we coming different? Like
Speaker 3: what's our anger? Yeah, what's our anger? We're just gonna
Speaker 3: come and rap and rap like that's kind of corny like.
Speaker 3: So we're sitting there all the time, we get to
Speaker 3: formulate how we're going to do it. So our next
Speaker 3: our next up is to come like boom. So I
Speaker 3: think the first know the first song was was was
Speaker 3: was all.
Speaker 1: On Black Moore album.
Speaker 3: Alright, Blacksmiths, So we had to just shoot. We just
Speaker 3: had to shoot like boom. But then it's like, you know,
Speaker 3: you the man. So being a group, we always get
Speaker 3: like like one nigga take a stail, y'all got twelve
Speaker 3: bars together. Everybody else get you know what I mean,
Speaker 3: they get the bus. But we always had to share
Speaker 3: our bars. And that was the same way like the
Speaker 3: D N D D and D all start wanting to
Speaker 3: and pass it.
Speaker 1: That was a dope breaker.
Speaker 2: That was a dope breaker.
Speaker 3: That was incredible. That was incredible to be a part of,
Speaker 3: you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's developed it when like short versus and they
Speaker 1: say you gotta share.
Speaker 3: That was one thing that helped us to develop it.
Speaker 3: Sitting there and just like you had admitted work because
Speaker 3: you got it. I wasn't even rapping, so it was
Speaker 3: I just gotta feed off of it.
Speaker 1: And I can't believe that part that wasn't rapping at all.
Speaker 1: Before my very first rap, I wasn't thinking about rap
Speaker 1: at all.
Speaker 2: We was face man, but he's like easy.
Speaker 1: We didn't.
Speaker 2: We didn't so much in the culture right school with
Speaker 2: a Craig G.
Speaker 1: Wow from Boklyn went to school your school what.
Speaker 2: The school now we.
Speaker 1: Went to. Our high school was in graphic art printing
Speaker 1: in Hell's kitchen. Oh okay, in the city. So yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what Craig g.
Speaker 6: Gemini, the gifted one who Rack Kim would come through
Speaker 6: soclonas we would see heavy body.
Speaker 1: I said, I came through the school.
Speaker 2: He didn't go to THEO.
Speaker 1: He just came pull up with the the.
Speaker 6: The bends with the big Amazon and the gold joints
Speaker 6: right in front of the joint hate chains on.
Speaker 2: You like I did that, Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: It was like that's effects would would pull up here,
Speaker 3: pull the big benches in the park man, Brooklyn, and
Speaker 3: one of them is Brooklyn the Jersey Jersey.
Speaker 2: Yeah what you said is Jersey and Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, salute to Jersey.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like b q A Brooklyn queens.
Speaker 1: When you come over to Jerseys in Brooklyn.
Speaker 3: We was we was in California with park I was
Speaker 3: getting called from my man was in railway in Jersey
Speaker 3: in the prison. He was like, I heard y'all out
Speaker 3: there with with the big homie, like the niggas.
Speaker 1: Hot.
Speaker 3: No, but it's like news travel. We came from an
Speaker 3: era where news travel. We don't know how it got there,
Speaker 3: but news would travel.
Speaker 1: So you know, niggas in prison get the news before
Speaker 1: the streets that y'all have passed out on the beat
Speaker 1: that y'all regretted, Like someone will ever get y'all.
Speaker 6: I don't think so, because we don't complain. Whatever you
Speaker 6: put in front of us. We're gonna dis man, We're
Speaker 6: gonna do what we do to it.
Speaker 2: We munch man.
Speaker 3: We we are we are called special change. We the
Speaker 3: special change that the boot can't click.
Speaker 1: Track masters gave me jigga jigger. It was no thinking.
Speaker 3: No.
Speaker 1: I was like no that. I was like that that
Speaker 1: wouldn't have.
Speaker 3: But you know, not that era there is there is
Speaker 3: like when when when when your men for real came
Speaker 3: on the scene. It was a time when Fab five
Speaker 3: was working on an album and I think he gave them,
Speaker 3: gave something. Yeah, this is early for real, so nobody
Speaker 3: know what Son.
Speaker 1: Was getting on tight shirt. You couldn't understand.
Speaker 3: And this is when this is when it was given consents. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so I forgot what beat it was. I think it
Speaker 3: was a beat that came out later on. It was
Speaker 3: used by Chalice Kalise single Hate You So Much. It
Speaker 3: was that beat, but it was just that plane.
Speaker 7: Is this before super Thun Yeah, because he was doing
Speaker 7: Browns and.
Speaker 2: Record right there. It's incredible.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: What for me too?
Speaker 1: That was she had to beat not the intro and
Speaker 1: not not not the intro, not.
Speaker 17: The hook and what's name remixed now? Like just for
Speaker 17: the Phantom Phantom of the Beats gave us, Yeah, Phantom
Speaker 17: of the Beats from Dwellers know that selling Dwellers from
Speaker 17: Blue Cheese something.
Speaker 3: Shout out the Dwellers too. But he gave us I
Speaker 3: don't know what was working. Yeah, yeah, but he gave
Speaker 3: us Magic Stick, that's yeah. He gave us Noah Fantom.
Speaker 1: You know, we had Lil Wayne and t Payne joint
Speaker 1: get money. Oh yeah, we switched that.
Speaker 4: We did the joy with Shorty Low because what's the
Speaker 4: name of playing skills?
Speaker 1: Gave it to us.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you one thing though, like hanging out with
Speaker 3: Pok Park is a beast and it's crazy because you
Speaker 3: got to think, like, yes, he was very young, right,
Speaker 3: but in the studio he was like when we was
Speaker 3: out there with him, He's like, yo, who got beats?
Speaker 2: Anybody could have beats at that time. You never know, he.
Speaker 3: Might have changed it later on, but you you didn't
Speaker 3: know at the time that he was stacking up.
Speaker 2: It's like he knew what was going to happen.
Speaker 1: Want to say, he worked like he knew he was
Speaker 1: going to go.
Speaker 3: I have one hundred and fifty three hundred songs after Like, so,
Speaker 3: when we got back from dealing with this cat, I
Speaker 3: had got a I got a job at.
Speaker 2: At Duckdown as an a n R. It was a short,
Speaker 2: short gig.
Speaker 3: I loved it. I think I was power tripping firing niggas,
Speaker 3: was firing niggas. I was like, yeah, taking niggas lawyers
Speaker 3: out there. They're like, still come on, man, but you know,
Speaker 3: it's all for the it's all for the for the
Speaker 3: for the family. But we we had like I had
Speaker 3: an opportunity. I was taking meets with producers and I
Speaker 3: was like buying a lot of beats and niggas like, yo, fam,
Speaker 3: we not we don't need all of those beats.
Speaker 1: Let me get those five beats. Bro, Like.
Speaker 2: We got mad, Well, we got mad.
Speaker 3: You're thinking about what you're doing, makes sense how you
Speaker 3: feel today. I don't know what we're gonna make when
Speaker 3: we're going to spot Like, come on, man, now we
Speaker 3: are a part where we could we could pick and
Speaker 3: choose like that. We it ain't like when we got
Speaker 3: an hour. We just gotta make it happen. We gotta
Speaker 3: to the to the gates. It was like, yo, what
Speaker 3: we're working on, were in here till some mood.
Speaker 6: Even in the studio hours different today than an hour
Speaker 6: was back then.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Now reconcent in an hour, that's a fact.
Speaker 2: Going work now, it's like, all right, hold on, let
Speaker 2: me go smoke.
Speaker 1: Some of it. Yeah. Man, the last question, right, both
Speaker 1: of y'all together as a team, get to write one
Speaker 1: rime for one person anybody you want a ghost, right
Speaker 1: for some ghost, right for one person? Anybody you wanted
Speaker 1: to be who would it be ghost? Right for someone
Speaker 1: you paid all the money you want in the world,
Speaker 1: the world to know what not? It's on you. But
Speaker 1: who would you pick?
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 2: That ain't even a fair question.
Speaker 1: Damn hip hop have to be hip hop alive day.
Speaker 1: They gotta be whoever it is as broad as it
Speaker 1: could be.
Speaker 2: That's all live. Whoever a wrap damn.
Speaker 1: Record, you gotta be. You gotta go in and out?
Speaker 2: Why are you thinking of that better? Two people? He
Speaker 2: made it more difficult.
Speaker 1: You got in and out.
Speaker 2: Damn rap ship. I need to call my lifeline.
Speaker 1: Damn damn.
Speaker 2: It has to be for this day and age.
Speaker 1: If their prime, yeah, they're probably Yeah, any buddy, anybody
Speaker 1: from any given moment in history.
Speaker 2: Damn you want to be like turn Yeah, it could
Speaker 2: be done.
Speaker 6: Nah, because for me, like Boom being g rapper is
Speaker 6: my favorite rappers. If I could have rolled something for
Speaker 6: g wrap the head the list O that lyrics.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you're writing in what you just said. It
Speaker 1: has to be two people that I just said that.
Speaker 2: That's what I said.
Speaker 1: I was making it easier for you. That's kind of impossible, man,
Speaker 1: for two people, because you gotta find a duel don't
Speaker 1: don't do the du don't do individual g rappers. Then
Speaker 1: who would you have?
Speaker 3: See I'm kind of like a damn crank a nerve, right,
Speaker 3: So it's like I don't really I respect the ghost writers,
Speaker 3: but I don't really believe in that ship.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hypothetically, you can just than anybody in the world,
Speaker 1: anybody whether they're dead alive, nobody cares about and whatever.
Speaker 2: Meverse if I could, if I what.
Speaker 3: If Marvin Gay put a joint of melody of it
Speaker 3: with a rip, this would.
Speaker 1: Be It's.
Speaker 3: Okay, let's keep that's all right. We're gon we're gonna
Speaker 3: go simplify. We're gonna simplify. I got I got to,
Speaker 3: I got to And this is this is the politically
Speaker 3: correct ship from me. It's right, Uh, because I was
Speaker 3: gonna go on somebody some some some ball marty ship
Speaker 3: Gil Scott had wrong, I.
Speaker 1: Would have been perfect.
Speaker 3: That's what That's what I want, that's what that's the
Speaker 3: that's my initial that's the first thing that came.
Speaker 1: To my mind. That's perfect.
Speaker 3: Scott, deal with give some comments on that, right, what.
Speaker 1: Like with your mind?
Speaker 3: But then I'm like, damn, what be what'll be the
Speaker 3: illest thing conceptually to do is the ghost right for
Speaker 3: my son? Right? My son want to get into the game.
Speaker 3: He thinks he wanted to get into the game. Right,
Speaker 3: But what stories does a child has if he can't
Speaker 3: if he ain't talking about opulence, if he ain't talking
Speaker 3: about the things they have or the chicks or whatever.
Speaker 2: What age is your son at this point?
Speaker 3: My son right now? Is my son right now is
Speaker 3: twenty five years old?
Speaker 1: Okay? Right?
Speaker 3: So but he's he grew up in He grew up
Speaker 3: in Queens. He had a backyard and front yard.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It wasn't no decept coming up to the school.
Speaker 1: Wasn't he ain't coming to trenches.
Speaker 3: He wasn't he would you know he was born in
Speaker 3: Brooklyn or you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Whatever than that, Like what what's what's the stories? Right?
Speaker 1: What you're talking about? I would? I would?
Speaker 3: It would be interesting, Like I like, I like when
Speaker 3: Styles and his son did that project, I was like, oh,
Speaker 3: I want to do that.
Speaker 2: That's like that's like a younger you you're talking to.
Speaker 3: Like without stepping on toes, like without mm hmm. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you know, how could you put that together?
Speaker 1: If it's me and Capone. I want lining Richie oh?
Speaker 1: And who and leonon Richie? Oh? I forgot who was
Speaker 1: the other one? Smokey Robinson? Who's smoking? Who's lane? Doesn't matter?
Speaker 1: They both call, and then of course m J and Prince. Hey, god,
Speaker 1: Prince got I want them to do bang bang over.
Speaker 1: That seems a little weird though, No, nothing new phone time,
Speaker 1: not a new phone time over your son.
Speaker 13: That's something jail. Sure we wanted to do that.
Speaker 2: Prince when he says bang, mak.
Speaker 3: Me that kind of hello, that's a ring of ship,
Speaker 3: you know, that's.
Speaker 2: It's about to be fed up.
Speaker 1: I always wanted I always wanted to do that as
Speaker 1: a record. I always wanted to do, like I write
Speaker 1: your rhyme, you write minds as a record.
Speaker 2: Like y'all never did that. You never wrote rhyme.
Speaker 1: He wrote yours as a record like Yeah, But I
Speaker 1: always wanted to do that as a record. But I
Speaker 1: wouldn't right as me. But you gotta listen. I wouldn't
Speaker 1: write as me I have. I would want to write
Speaker 1: as I'm saying. That's what y'all. Let us we sit
Speaker 1: there and I say, y'all gonna write yours? You right mind?
Speaker 1: But you're not writing for you. You're right and me we're
Speaker 1: telling people, look, he wrote my ship. I wrote my ship,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, like always like to bug
Speaker 1: out like this wasn't no ghost writer ship that we
Speaker 1: sat here.
Speaker 3: We were done every We've done every way to write.
Speaker 1: You know, everybody all partner's done yo.
Speaker 2: Check and I wrote this ship.
Speaker 1: I just say that ship right there, it's gonna fit.
Speaker 4: Like I don't given who group you are, you know,
Speaker 4: took somebody a part the ship. Like that's just the
Speaker 4: best thing about blessing about being a group.
Speaker 1: Yeah you gohost whiteness. No, no, that ship don't count.
Speaker 2: Right right, Put that ship aside. Man, we're making it.
Speaker 3: We were all working towards to the goal and make
Speaker 3: some fly ship and put that out in the universe
Speaker 3: and that that's like but but but it's like it's
Speaker 3: like when you go from the analog to the digital
Speaker 3: and when you think about like like I.
Speaker 1: Love You song.
Speaker 3: We was in the studio where I Love you torow marriage. Yeah,
Speaker 3: the marriage joint, you know, the piano chairs, the one.
Speaker 1: Seater, that ship shine forever, I shan that's.
Speaker 2: What that's what everybody calls it.
Speaker 1: That everybody, I know what everybody called. It took us
Speaker 1: a half an hour looking for that ship. He was like, Sean,
Speaker 1: I was looking at it. It's don't look for that.
Speaker 1: It's yeah, I'm sucking on somebody.
Speaker 3: You you forced into that into that that that that
Speaker 3: that setting where it's like, yo, you got one book, right,
Speaker 3: and you were sitting there facing each other, you know,
Speaker 3: you in this cell of sorts and you have to go, yo, boom,
Speaker 3: here's a one line here here mm hmm yeah boom.
Speaker 3: Or you might get hot. You might write three, you know, right,
Speaker 3: so you cover that one. I'm gonna cover this here,
Speaker 3: put that finished, finish the balls off, go go spliff.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. It's like, Yo, it feels magical.
Speaker 3: Then when you see that ship, it's like seamless. You know,
Speaker 3: it's like, okay, it ain't or somebody just write a
Speaker 3: whole He might just get hot and be like ya,
Speaker 3: I got twelve, Just put like four to that. We
Speaker 3: bust up the front, or you know what I mean, whatever,
Speaker 3: we got autonomy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: It's great.
Speaker 3: And you know that is one of those moments where
Speaker 3: you have you want to say some fantabolist ship.
Speaker 2: But you ain't got enough breath. You're like, yo, son,
Speaker 2: come right here, right here, on this.
Speaker 1: In and outgat fan.
Speaker 2: I caught that. I caught that.
Speaker 3: I caught.
Speaker 2: I caught slang. When I hear it's like that was
Speaker 2: my word. Give me your everything.
Speaker 1: Just yes, but listen, man, brothers, man, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. I was so thankful, Like I said, man,
Speaker 1: I looked at my brother Poem Graham and y'all was together,
Speaker 1: and I was and it just was so dope.
Speaker 2: And I just you know what I mean, I hate,
Speaker 2: I hit you up.
Speaker 1: I hate I came up and I definitely you know
Speaker 1: one or two as men man like you guys mean
Speaker 1: so much to hip hop, what you guys have done,
Speaker 1: and you know it's crazy, like you guys come from
Speaker 1: a whole camp. You don't sound like them. You guys
Speaker 1: have always been original. You guys have done. You guys
Speaker 1: are true legends icons. And I wanted to give you guys,
Speaker 1: y'all flowers. I wanted to give guys y'all props. I
Speaker 1: wanted to tell you how much you mean, how dope
Speaker 1: you are, and how how much you continue to do this.
Speaker 1: Hopefully we get a two man fu tall you know
Speaker 1: what I mean as as just a top head. How
Speaker 1: dope it is to have two of the greatests.
Speaker 3: It doesn't get greater than that. But this is this
Speaker 3: is this also, man, thank you brother, because it's like
Speaker 3: like hip hop has allowed us to go. We bridging gaps,
Speaker 3: We bridging gap, We're building bridges. And like when when
Speaker 3: Noriega calls text for Smith and Wesson on the Jackie, like, Yo,
Speaker 3: what you're.
Speaker 2: Doing next week? Where we need to be bro?
Speaker 3: Like that's incredible, bro, Like they have that great you're
Speaker 3: wanted that timeline.
Speaker 1: Family, But there's got nothing to do with being family.
Speaker 1: Just got everything to do with hip hop. Man. You
Speaker 1: guys deserve your flowers so much, man, Like, how kid
Speaker 1: you not like like although, like you know, I probably
Speaker 1: like a year or two probably younger than y'all. I
Speaker 1: feel like y'all still raised me with the music because
Speaker 1: I knew y'all music before I knew y'all to.
Speaker 2: See what I'm saying. So I'm just sitting there.
Speaker 1: Identifying with the music and listen.
Speaker 2: Listen.
Speaker 1: First, I swore, I swore, I was, I swore from
Speaker 1: Brooklyn Earlier, I was walking like.
Speaker 3: That's one thing I love about boot Camp too, because
Speaker 3: there's so many of us. If we listened to other
Speaker 3: cast music, everybody and and it's funny because we used
Speaker 3: to imitate all the cast that we like. Wow, we
Speaker 3: used to imitate everybody that we like, you know what
Speaker 3: I'm saying, And like eventually, you know, we were talking
Speaker 3: about that earlier. Because we're gonna borrow some of your ship,
Speaker 3: you might hear, like, wait a minute, y'all.
Speaker 1: Man, we want to give y'all, y'all flowers man and
Speaker 1: shout out, oh GC, y'all.
Speaker 2: Moon, get out here. What's next for y'all?
Speaker 3: Like, oh, man, right now, we're working on album number
Speaker 3: eighth right with the ninth one done the Soul Council,
Speaker 3: So that's like, want to do the whole it's one
Speaker 3: of the ninth got a squad called the Soul Counsel.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's uh he banks uh here.
Speaker 3: He got the new Young Boy what's the Young Boy soundtracks?
Speaker 3: That's a beast man and yo. One thing about working
Speaker 3: with these guys, man, it's like when you go down
Speaker 3: to the to the to the studio, it reminds me
Speaker 3: of d N D D D Any You're going to
Speaker 3: see anybody. Yeah, no roaches, but it's a lot of
Speaker 3: takeout food ship.
Speaker 2: All over you know what I'm saying, like cleaning up
Speaker 2: like but it's like home. Ain't no egos there, bro
Speaker 2: like everybody in there. This is New York.
Speaker 3: Yeah, everybody in there is a monster like you think
Speaker 3: about d n D we ain't know. Niggas is from
Speaker 3: Queen Niggas from now, he's from booklets, from hongs, from
Speaker 3: the Bronx, And everybody is about to be the biggest
Speaker 3: most They about to be Titans. And we all in
Speaker 3: here playing pool, smoking reefer incredible machine.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I wanted to what's the machine that you
Speaker 1: get your snicker bars out of? Machine? Phillies and Chasles,
Speaker 1: what's that?
Speaker 2: This is a This is a book that I wrote.
Speaker 2: Come on to talk about this, Come on.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 3: It's a book of poetry, right, poems. And I use
Speaker 3: artwork from some this is like fans, some of the
Speaker 3: fans that you know painted did some paintings that I'm
Speaker 3: gonna put include the fans in the work as well.
Speaker 3: And I try to use something I jacked the U
Speaker 3: Tupac scroll, put my own handwriting and the things I
Speaker 3: just wanted to make it like engaging for the people.
Speaker 3: Like you always had the wraps, you always had the
Speaker 3: tough guys. But sometimes you don't get to like, you know,
Speaker 3: just get into some abstract and parents and get.
Speaker 2: Niggas to read too.
Speaker 1: Yes, and you need to be sell books for everybody.
Speaker 1: I just sawed my book deal too. I don't even
Speaker 1: know what I'm gonna call it. Yeah, I'm gonna call
Speaker 1: that ship. Reading is overrated. It's gonna be seven Centizy'll
Speaker 1: look at in the book that's gonna be mad pictures,
Speaker 1: people FM, Resource Room, niggas, anybody, especially educase. We don't
Speaker 1: want to read Instagram. We don't want to read, y'all.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry you not listen to me. No, kids don't
Speaker 1: watch the show anyway. Drink business your parents up there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like twelve thing.
Speaker 3: They don't what you right, man, just write something. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm bugging out, said yo. We he put out a
Speaker 3: We put out a Bible, right, and you know hip hop.
Speaker 3: A lot of people lost their mind. He's like, what
Speaker 3: does this guy think he's doing?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: But he's like, yo, everybody should write a book to that.
Speaker 3: Like when the Bible Saint James King, James Joint It's
Speaker 3: like you had this nice seeing council. Right, you have
Speaker 3: all of these different people from all these different lands
Speaker 3: bringing their books.
Speaker 2: What does that sound like to you? If not hip hop?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 2: Everybody everybody's head. That was deep but we all allowed no.
Speaker 3: But it's no, it's there's no gate kid that same
Speaker 3: I respected write a book, that book from there, you
Speaker 3: know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We love that. We would love to see that.
Speaker 3: Nobody behind the scenes, not nobody coming and telling our story,
Speaker 3: us telling our story.
Speaker 1: That's right, We got to tell our own story.
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