WEBVTT - Episode 1: Beekeeping with Granger Smith

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, This is Christian Bush and welcome to the first

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<v Speaker 1>episode of Geeking Out, my new podcast. Every episode is

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<v Speaker 1>a new person talking about what they're obsessed with that

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<v Speaker 1>has nothing to do with their job. The only requirement

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<v Speaker 1>is that they're totally geeking out on it and they

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<v Speaker 1>want to talk about it. From Game of Thrones to

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<v Speaker 1>got into it, what makes it awesome, and really why

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<v Speaker 1>someone else could get into it too. Each episode is

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<v Speaker 1>presented in three chapters. In chapter one, my guest and

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<v Speaker 1>I will go deep diving on whatever they're passionate about.

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter two is a game I call trade jo, where

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<v Speaker 1>my guests and I turned each other onto one thing

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<v Speaker 1>that we've just discovered. And Chapter three closes the show

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<v Speaker 1>with me talking about music that I'm currently geeking out

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<v Speaker 1>on and why I believe that curiosity is contagious and

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<v Speaker 1>that life is better with a soundtrack. So let's go

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<v Speaker 1>Chapter one. This week's guest is Granger Smith. Granger is

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<v Speaker 1>my label mate at Wheelhouse Records. Whose debut album, Remington's,

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<v Speaker 1>featured number one hit back Road song. You might know

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<v Speaker 1>him better as his alter ego Earl Dibbel's Jr. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're not already a member of the Nation, you're about

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<v Speaker 1>to be. Because I'm always moving around and I can't

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<v Speaker 1>always predict where my perfect next guest will appear. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes on location. So here Granger and I are talking

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<v Speaker 1>in the lobby bar of Hilton Garden Inn and Charleston,

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<v Speaker 1>South Carolina, after a show that we played together for

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<v Speaker 1>the local radio station. You can hear us occasionally laughing

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<v Speaker 1>with our band at the table, or uh talking to

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<v Speaker 1>the waitress, or enjoying that old time tradition of a

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<v Speaker 1>last drink before bedtime. Enjoy I mean with a Granger

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm eating French fries. Awesome. Yeah we are, UM,

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<v Speaker 1>so welcome to the podcast. It's good to be here.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this podcast. You know it's on location. We're

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<v Speaker 1>in a lobby about us. Say they're not even paying

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<v Speaker 1>us to say not yet. You know what, I like

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<v Speaker 1>your entrepreneurial spirit and that's one of the things that

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<v Speaker 1>really bonds us, you and me. Besides we're on the

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<v Speaker 1>same record there. Um Okay, So you know, the reason

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<v Speaker 1>that you're here, or at least I'm putting you on podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>is because I'm interested in what you're into right now,

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<v Speaker 1>what you're kind of geeked out on that has nothing

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<v Speaker 1>to do with your job. The first thing comes from

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<v Speaker 1>my mind because I was just dealing with this yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm into bees. I'm a beekeeper. It feels awesome

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<v Speaker 1>to say that. By the way, I'm a I'm a beekeeping.

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<v Speaker 1>I am a new beekeeper. Your new beekeeper. Huh. Aren't

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<v Speaker 1>like people from Brooklyn that are like hipsters into beekeeping?

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<v Speaker 1>Probably so? Um, but so are farmer type guys too, right.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's because my bees are not garden bees. They

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<v Speaker 1>actually have you know, space country country are these are? These?

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<v Speaker 1>Are these free range bees? Free range country? Somebody asked

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<v Speaker 1>me one time when I first brought this up. They said, so,

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get into their area? And I said

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<v Speaker 1>what area? And they said, you know what the net

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<v Speaker 1>like the little house with the net. And I said, man,

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<v Speaker 1>they just go everywhere. How they know when to go back? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. That's its nature's mystery. They know how

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<v Speaker 1>to get back. They travel five miles every day. Bees

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<v Speaker 1>travel every day. They will go miles in their life,

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<v Speaker 1>and they only lived thirty five days. Let's facts keep coming. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>how did you get into Okay, I it's probably started

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<v Speaker 1>with me with fruit trees. I love trees. I love

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<v Speaker 1>planting trees, I love established trees, I love planting new trees.

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<v Speaker 1>I like planting seeds. I just for some reason, I

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<v Speaker 1>think my dad was into it. It's in my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>side of the family too. There's something about it. In

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<v Speaker 1>every house I've ever lived in, I've planted a tree

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<v Speaker 1>at some point in my life. I got into fruit

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<v Speaker 1>trees about four years ago. I got two peach trees,

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<v Speaker 1>two plum trees, um pomegranate. I have BlackBerry bushes and

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<v Speaker 1>a fig tree, all kind of this one little area.

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<v Speaker 1>And the number one way to really escalate the pollination

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<v Speaker 1>is beats. There's number one pollinator for any I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's butterflies, there's other things, but birds, But the

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<v Speaker 1>biggest pollinator of anything is bees. And so I thought, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>what do I have enough bees? I don't know. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. How does anyone know if they have enough

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<v Speaker 1>bees in their area? And I've seen bees, But but

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<v Speaker 1>then I started thinking, what if I brought in beat

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of people do that, I could bring in bees.

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<v Speaker 1>So I started researching, looking on the internet, typing in bees.

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<v Speaker 1>How long ago with this? This was about? This was

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<v Speaker 1>the right around two years ago. And the reason I

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<v Speaker 1>know that is because I went to a show. I

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<v Speaker 1>was a show and a friend of mine from high

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<v Speaker 1>school shows up and we were just talking and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>happen to mention I was interested in bees, and he

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<v Speaker 1>goes me too, I'm actually about to buy something from

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<v Speaker 1>my house And I said, wow, that's incredible. I said,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish I could do that, but I'm touring all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, so there's no way I could go buy bees,

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<v Speaker 1>build the hives and paint them and get them. I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to one day, ten years down the road,

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<v Speaker 1>and love to do that. And he goes, tell you, what,

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<v Speaker 1>whyn't you just give me your credit card number, will

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<v Speaker 1>buy a couple of hives for you, and then I'll

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<v Speaker 1>go buy a couple of homes from me. We'll deliver

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<v Speaker 1>them all to my house. I'll set it up for

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<v Speaker 1>you and I'll get the bees going at my house.

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<v Speaker 1>That way, I'll get the hard part, the really, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the extensive work that it takes, the early be years

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<v Speaker 1>or tough years. And I was like, that's awesome. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so he did it. This was so he got he

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<v Speaker 1>ordered him. He got him in about six months later.

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<v Speaker 1>So he had him at his house about a year

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. And then this was the year when

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<v Speaker 1>they're established strong, ready to go. And he called me.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, your bees are ready. So I got

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<v Speaker 1>them in March this year. Um so so now it's June.

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<v Speaker 1>So I went down and to San Antonio. I'm in Austin.

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<v Speaker 1>He was in San Antonio, drove down and uh, he

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<v Speaker 1>put them. We put them. We took them out of

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<v Speaker 1>their hives and put them in nukes, which was really funny. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>so we take the frames of their brood box. This

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<v Speaker 1>is getting crazy. But the brood boxes where the bees.

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<v Speaker 1>As you could tell, I'm am obsessed with this, But

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<v Speaker 1>the brood box is where um that's where they live.

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<v Speaker 1>That's where the queen lives. That's where she makes all

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<v Speaker 1>her larva. That's where they make all their their food.

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<v Speaker 1>That's going to supply him for the winner. At my house,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a brood box bread box. My favorite new

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<v Speaker 1>indie band yes, bread box is amazing. So what you

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<v Speaker 1>take the brood box and then you put a queen

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<v Speaker 1>excluder on top, which is a screen that allows all

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of the bees to go through it. But

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<v Speaker 1>she can't because she's too big, so it traps her

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<v Speaker 1>in the brood box, which is fine. She needs to

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<v Speaker 1>be busy making her eggs, layer eggs. And then you

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<v Speaker 1>you put these supers on top. A super is essentially

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<v Speaker 1>the same thing as a brood box. It's got tin

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<v Speaker 1>frames in it with a little little uh manmade honeycomb

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<v Speaker 1>replica that they go. They are attracted to and they

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<v Speaker 1>build out their comb. So when you put a super

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<v Speaker 1>on top of a broodbox, you never touched the brood box.

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<v Speaker 1>That's their food, that's their supply, that's how they live.

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<v Speaker 1>But the super on top of that is what you

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<v Speaker 1>can harvest for your own honey. You can pull that out, Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't need that. You can make two supers on

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<v Speaker 1>top of that per hive. So we take the brood

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<v Speaker 1>box frames out. You've seen the frames on everyone's seen

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<v Speaker 1>the frames. You take the frames out and we put

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<v Speaker 1>them in this little, this little nuke, which is basically

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<v Speaker 1>a cardboard box that you put the frames in and

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<v Speaker 1>then close it seal it. So I take those so

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<v Speaker 1>I put all the bees in there. It's crazy, seal

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Put them in the back of my truck.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it like a kid? Like a kid's on board.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna dry fifteen thousand bees in each hive, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had two hives. I had thirty thousand bees in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of my truck. I had to pull over

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<v Speaker 1>and get gas on the way there, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my gosh, you know, because because not all of

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<v Speaker 1>them made it into the into the sealed box. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them are just kind of around and there.

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<v Speaker 1>But they're just gonna keep up. So I get to

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<v Speaker 1>my house and I put on the suit and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>following the exact instructions that he gave me. I build

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<v Speaker 1>the hive just like it was at his house. And

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<v Speaker 1>then my wife and I, luckily I had her with me.

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<v Speaker 1>We're smoking him too. You smoke him with a little

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<v Speaker 1>little smoker because it chills him out. It disorians. This

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<v Speaker 1>is not like a Washington State. It's a little bit different.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a different kind of smoking, but essentially the same

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<v Speaker 1>the same effect. It chills him out. M out distorians,

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<v Speaker 1>Can we stop? Are you actually stoning the bees? You're

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<v Speaker 1>stoning the bees totally? I love it. Yeah, cedar chips,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what we want to call it. Yeah, yeah, So

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<v Speaker 1>my wife and there we are. We're, you know, smoking

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<v Speaker 1>them like crazy. We open up the site of opening

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<v Speaker 1>up that that nuke for the first time and seeing

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<v Speaker 1>them in there, fifteen thousand bees and you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>reach in there with your hand, gloved hands. You've got

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<v Speaker 1>to pull out a frame and they're just coded on

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<v Speaker 1>each side of the frame, and then walk it over

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<v Speaker 1>and put it into their new box, like here's your home.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the biggest rush I've had. I was. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>my heart's pounding. I'm holding YouTube. Yes. So then you

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<v Speaker 1>have super is built on top of right exactly. So

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<v Speaker 1>what happened is the queen. Everyone's attracted to the queen.

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<v Speaker 1>She's the leader. And I didn't see her. I could have,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was preoccupied. But she was somewhere on one

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<v Speaker 1>of those frames, crawling around. You could see her because

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<v Speaker 1>she'd be bigger than all the REPSOD So I put him,

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<v Speaker 1>I put him into the food box and then I

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<v Speaker 1>cover it with the being the queen excluder, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I put the um. I I didn't put a super

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<v Speaker 1>on yet because they don't need it yet. They needed

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<v Speaker 1>to fill out the rest of their frames, right, But

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<v Speaker 1>I did put on a little a little feeding box

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<v Speaker 1>on top, so that feeding boxes half sugar half water mish. Yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>for the very first time, I went in there and

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<v Speaker 1>added a super because they had filled out their brood box.

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<v Speaker 1>So when I took off the feeding box, they had

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<v Speaker 1>been building comb all under the feeding box on top

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<v Speaker 1>of their brood box. So I just was like, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta I got a spoon and a tupperware and

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<v Speaker 1>I just pulled off all of this comb with a

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<v Speaker 1>big spoon and put it into the tupperware and got

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<v Speaker 1>back and I had a whole bowl full of honey. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So how often do you think about the bees now

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<v Speaker 1>that you're out on tour. I think about it all

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<v Speaker 1>the time. I'm texting my wife that you feed the bees?

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<v Speaker 1>You know, the strangest, the strangest text. And do you

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<v Speaker 1>have children? I do? We have three little ones. You

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<v Speaker 1>do you like worry more about the bees than the children.

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<v Speaker 1>Since I'm a man, probably not to be honest. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>be honest, probably not, but I do think about him

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<v Speaker 1>a lot and my kids. I would think that bugs

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<v Speaker 1>are kind of icky to some kids. But they want

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<v Speaker 1>to put on the suit and they want to go

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<v Speaker 1>right up to the box. And if you look right

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<v Speaker 1>at the entrance, they have a little entrance. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>an inch long entrance and they they go in there.

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<v Speaker 1>And these bees constantly going in, constantly going out all

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<v Speaker 1>day long. And the ones going in got the little

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<v Speaker 1>pollen sacks on their legs and they're going in. They

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<v Speaker 1>deposit the nextar and the nectar and pollen they head

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<v Speaker 1>to right back out. The funny thing is, if you

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<v Speaker 1>watch it close enough, there's these guards. There's bouncers, but

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<v Speaker 1>guard the outside seriously. They check i'd ease, and they'll

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<v Speaker 1>find a little robber by that tries to get in there.

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<v Speaker 1>He's either a local bee or he's one from next door,

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<v Speaker 1>and they will kick his ass. Kid, they will kick

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<v Speaker 1>the ship out of Have you slow mode your bees yet?

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<v Speaker 1>Have you gone to the SlowMo setting on your phone?

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<v Speaker 1>I phone? That's a great idea. I should do that. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I have not done it. That's a great idea. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>when when when when we do when we post this podcast,

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<v Speaker 1>we need to have at least a SloMo of your bees.

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<v Speaker 1>I will have that done for you. Okay. So, um,

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<v Speaker 1>now that we understand the full breadth of your obsession, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and why you're kind of geeking out on this, how

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<v Speaker 1>would you recommend someone else get into this? Like? What's

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<v Speaker 1>the gateway drug? Well? How do you start? Um? You know,

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<v Speaker 1>the internet is so full as of any other subject,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just full of It's a wealth of knowledge of

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<v Speaker 1>of ways to use. Yeah to to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>sit there and watch a YouTube video of a guy

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<v Speaker 1>actually setting up it's really easy. You can get everything online,

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<v Speaker 1>deliver it right to your house. And a musician like

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<v Speaker 1>me traveling all the time, it makes it tough. But

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<v Speaker 1>if you're nine to five or this is this is

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<v Speaker 1>easy you could You could literally do it in your garden.

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<v Speaker 1>Is it in a morning? Ritual? Is an evening? Like? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I have learned that in the afternoon my bees are crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>In the afternoon, they're crazy, They're they're way more chill

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<v Speaker 1>in the morning. They're really calm at night, and when

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<v Speaker 1>it rains they all go home, they all go home. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so these bees live thirty five days. This is what's crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>So the queen is like any other normal bee. She

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<v Speaker 1>lives longer because she's been fed the royal jelly from

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<v Speaker 1>not making this up. The royal jelly. It's like straight

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<v Speaker 1>out of a Disney movie. Now, when she's at the end,

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<v Speaker 1>they will elect a new queen out of the worker bees.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how they elect one that, but they

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<v Speaker 1>all find one. She gets elected and they feed her

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<v Speaker 1>the royal jelly and she grows to the size of queen.

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<v Speaker 1>I think, I think I think they're doing that in

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<v Speaker 1>the UK right now, Chapter two. In every episode of

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<v Speaker 1>Geeking Out, I see if I can trade one thing

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<v Speaker 1>I've discovered recently with one thing that my guest has discovered,

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<v Speaker 1>like a friendly exchange. I call it trade you. So

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<v Speaker 1>this is called trade you. I'll trade you one thing

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<v Speaker 1>for one thing. Right, you turn me onto something, I'll

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<v Speaker 1>turn you onto something. So I'm obsessed currently a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit with cold brew coffee. Right, and so this is

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<v Speaker 1>coffee that is steeped for a whole day. It takes

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<v Speaker 1>a whole day to make a gallon usually if you

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<v Speaker 1>do it the right way, and there are there there

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<v Speaker 1>are a lot like Kraft beers. You know there are

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<v Speaker 1>people that are making this. And one of the cool

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<v Speaker 1>things that it does it takes the acid out of

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<v Speaker 1>the coffee, so that doesn't hurt your stomach. The awkward

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<v Speaker 1>thing that it does is it triples the caffeine. So

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<v Speaker 1>when you pour yourself a cup of coffee, if cold

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<v Speaker 1>brew that would be normally your regular cup of coffee,

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<v Speaker 1>it's now like you're on adderall right, you gotta be really,

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<v Speaker 1>really really careful not to overdo it. So the cold

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<v Speaker 1>brew coffee that I love is obviously from Atlanta, Georgia.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Banjo coffee. But when somebody turned me onto

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<v Speaker 1>not just the cold brew, but recently mixing it with lacroix. Lacroix,

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<v Speaker 1>you know this, uh, this soda that's not a cola, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's a coconut version. Everybody's got there on the

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<v Speaker 1>rider these days. Yeah, Well it's awesome because it keeps

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<v Speaker 1>you off drinking dice coke. Right. Um, But the lacroix,

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<v Speaker 1>or the lacroix that I love now current obsession is

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<v Speaker 1>a coconut which tastes like sunscreen. Um, if you could

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<v Speaker 1>drink sunscreen that's carbonated, or the cold brew coffee half

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<v Speaker 1>and half exactly into it with ice, a glass of ice,

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<v Speaker 1>cold brew coffee, and the coconut lacroix, lacroix, however you

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<v Speaker 1>want to pronounce it. It is the most refreshing summer

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<v Speaker 1>drink ever. It's like coffee plus it's like a Mound's bar,

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<v Speaker 1>but coffee but has zero calories. Okay, that's incredible. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have a name for yet, but that's that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you need to text me. That word for word, what

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<v Speaker 1>you said, I'm next to that plus that equals joy. Okay, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>now you turned me on to Okay, I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna turn you. I'm gonna turn you onto something because

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<v Speaker 1>of you said cold brew coffee. This guy's probably know

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm gonna say, cold water therapy. It's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>less enjoyable than cold brew coffee. You gonna put it

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<v Speaker 1>that way. But cold water therapy is something I got

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<v Speaker 1>into because, um in December, I broke a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>ribs and punctured alone, fell off the stage when I

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<v Speaker 1>when I got home, I wanted to be able to

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<v Speaker 1>recover as fast as possible. I just hate sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>a couch and recovering, and I didn't want anything to

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<v Speaker 1>slow that down. So I started researching how how would

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<v Speaker 1>Troy Aikman, you know, recover the fastest he could possibly recover,

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<v Speaker 1>or how would any you know, NFL quarterback figure this out?

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<v Speaker 1>Because I fin I kind of put those guys as

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<v Speaker 1>the guys that would have the ultimate scientists a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of money, right, So everything came back to cold weather

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<v Speaker 1>therapy as that you know, you know, all professional athletes

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<v Speaker 1>take ice bass and there's a reason. So I really

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<v Speaker 1>got into this. And this was in December, so it

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<v Speaker 1>was perfect because I would I would go to my

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<v Speaker 1>pool and I would measure my pool at somewhere in

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<v Speaker 1>the mid fifties. This is in December, so so it's

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<v Speaker 1>that actually sounds to some people that sounds warm, but

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<v Speaker 1>that's freaking cold. It's freaking cold, especially when outside. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in the forties the temperature outside. So I would I

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<v Speaker 1>would go get in there, and I started in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>Then I worked up to ten minutes, but three minutes

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<v Speaker 1>is what I preferred. But what's crazy is you go

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<v Speaker 1>in there and with whatever your whatever your ailment, or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe you don't have an ailement, you just you just

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<v Speaker 1>want to be completely what happens is you get completely

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<v Speaker 1>recirculated with all your blood. Tell me how that works.

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<v Speaker 1>So you jump in and you have you have the

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<v Speaker 1>the Caveman brain effect of I'm gonna die. I'm gonna die.

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<v Speaker 1>You do you think I'm going to die, because that's

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<v Speaker 1>what it feels like. So every all the blood in

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<v Speaker 1>your body rushes to your court and it holds there

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<v Speaker 1>to protect your vital organs. That takes about thirty seconds.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I had a timer. Every day I would do

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<v Speaker 1>this and had a timer. It takes thirty seconds for

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<v Speaker 1>all the blood in your body to rush to your court.

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<v Speaker 1>When that happens, you hit a euphoria. Ah, this isn't

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<v Speaker 1>too bad. You're kind of just bobbing in the water

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<v Speaker 1>like hey, and everybody's like you Okay, It's like it's

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<v Speaker 1>not too bad. And at that point you're good. You

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<v Speaker 1>could wait for ten minutes if you want. Thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>This is perfect. Anything we need to get out, Thank you,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, Thank you for being here. Man. Now we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna eat our food. Yes, thanks Buddy Ranger Smith. Chapter

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<v Speaker 1>three me geeking out on music. Surprise surprise, right, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>This week I'm diving into a record that was a

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<v Speaker 1>really big deal for me, and later in life I

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<v Speaker 1>got to explore it in in in a brand new way.

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<v Speaker 1>But the artist name are the Police, and the album

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<v Speaker 1>in question here is Ghost in the Machine, and when

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<v Speaker 1>you look at it, it is a black album with

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<v Speaker 1>like a digital read out looks like a digital clock,

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<v Speaker 1>but each of their faces the way they did it

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<v Speaker 1>with the you know, sting of spiked hair and and

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<v Speaker 1>Andy Summers hair is going to the side and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like this, and it's it's a very enigmatic record for them.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's most interesting to me is the second single

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<v Speaker 1>off of this album was called every Little Thing She

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<v Speaker 1>Does Is Magic. And I was always obsessed with this

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<v Speaker 1>song for a very specific reason. I at the time

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<v Speaker 1>that this came out, or at least by the time

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<v Speaker 1>I heard it, I believe I was let's see what

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<v Speaker 1>year did it come out? In? Eight one? So by

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<v Speaker 1>the time I really dug into this record, I was

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<v Speaker 1>twelve or thirteen, and I was learning to write songs

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and um, you know, these Police songs

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<v Speaker 1>were complete thoughts and complete statements, and they they sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like nothing else on the radio. Is some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>strange British reggae rock and every little thing she does

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<v Speaker 1>is magic. Is exactly like you know, a squared off,

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<v Speaker 1>well written pop song, or even a country song to

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<v Speaker 1>that matter. And what was fun to me about the

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<v Speaker 1>recording is that there's just very little going on until,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, the drums sort of take over in the courses.

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<v Speaker 1>And the obsession that I had was kind of these

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful melodies in the verses and here that's what they

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<v Speaker 1>sound like. Okay, So the way this kind of works

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<v Speaker 1>is I had suddenly been listening to Adam and the

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<v Speaker 1>Ants and a couple of things that probably a kid

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<v Speaker 1>from East Tennessee just had no business listening to. And

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<v Speaker 1>I realized that you could put things on top of

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<v Speaker 1>each other. And I was trained as a classical musician,

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<v Speaker 1>so it made sense to me. Counterpoint, Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>one one part of the score layered with another part

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<v Speaker 1>of the score later both that had appeared individually earlier.

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<v Speaker 1>And what happened so at the end of this song,

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<v Speaker 1>there's what's called a fade. And nowadays, you know, we

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of draw a fade on a computer, but

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<v Speaker 1>at the time you had to actually physically have your

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<v Speaker 1>hand on the fader, the master fader on your counsel

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<v Speaker 1>and then you would slowly fade it down right, and

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<v Speaker 1>depending on how much coffee your engineer had had that day,

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<v Speaker 1>your fades were quick or you know, depending on how

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<v Speaker 1>much of a I don't know, a stoner or something

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<v Speaker 1>that they were, that they would if they would fade

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<v Speaker 1>it slowly right, and it would be the perfect timing

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<v Speaker 1>on how to close the conversation of a song. So,

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<v Speaker 1>this particular song has a fade in it that um

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<v Speaker 1>has always always perplexed me. I was the kid who

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<v Speaker 1>as the song faded on the radio, I would turn

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<v Speaker 1>the radio up and up and up to try to

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<v Speaker 1>counter the engineer turning it down. I kept turning it

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<v Speaker 1>up and up and up because what Sting had done

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys and the police had put one part

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<v Speaker 1>of the song of the melody over a different part

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<v Speaker 1>of the music, and it only happens on the fade.

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<v Speaker 1>And I thought to myself, man, it is the coolest

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<v Speaker 1>thing I've ever heard. So here here's that part, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>So fast forward, let's see, almost eleven years or twelve years,

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<v Speaker 1>I end up as my job getting a record deal

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<v Speaker 1>with my my friend Andrew Hira and Billy Pilgrim and

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<v Speaker 1>now we are literally in London and we get to

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<v Speaker 1>work with Hugh Pagam, the man who produced a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of these police records, and I can't help but ask

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<v Speaker 1>him when I finally get the like one social time

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<v Speaker 1>moment to say, Hugh, please tell me what does it

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<v Speaker 1>What did it sound like for the rest of that song?

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<v Speaker 1>Because the ending of that song, and I know you

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<v Speaker 1>produced it, was one of my favorite things of all time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I always wondered what the tales out version of

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<v Speaker 1>that is, tails out being you know, we all recorded

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<v Speaker 1>on on actual tape and the tail of the tape

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<v Speaker 1>if if you hadn't have faded it down on the fader,

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<v Speaker 1>what how long did that song go? What could I

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<v Speaker 1>hear the rest of that song? And uh, he laughed

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<v Speaker 1>and he told me the story of it. He said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>that song was actually the demo that we had. The

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<v Speaker 1>drummer played to the demo that Staying had already made

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<v Speaker 1>and literally the end of the fade is where the

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<v Speaker 1>tape runs out on the machine. So um, at least

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<v Speaker 1>I know that, uh there there was nothing that happened

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<v Speaker 1>after that, so I don't have any fear of missing

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<v Speaker 1>out of what's there. But it is in its entirety

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<v Speaker 1>one of the more formative songs in my life that

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<v Speaker 1>taught me how to reimagine the music that you're making.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe all of it can squish on top of each

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<v Speaker 1>other and work out so here it is. Every little

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<v Speaker 1>thing she does is magic the Police. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the first episode of Geeking Out, and we are

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<v Speaker 1>already hard at work on the next one. Are you

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