Speaker 1: Hey, hey, hey, we're back. We're black, We're Brown Ambition.
Speaker 1: Welcome black Man Drone. Hello.
Speaker 2: You know what I was just thinking about when you
Speaker 2: were singing us in is whatever happened to that old
Speaker 2: Brown Ambition intro from our original first ever Brown Ambition episode,
Speaker 2: which I actually I dove into the vault of BA episodes.
Speaker 2: It was kind of like finding an old yearbook photo
Speaker 2: or like awkward, just like reading your old your old
Speaker 2: diary from high school is kind of what it felt like.
Speaker 2: And on that first Brown Ambition episode, maybe I was
Speaker 2: just feeling nostalgic because we're coming up on our six
Speaker 2: year but we had the cutest little intro and I
Speaker 2: kind of want to bring it back.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I heard it and I was like,
Speaker 1: what was Mandy talking about?
Speaker 2: You mean the song we did like a I'm Tiffany,
Speaker 2: I'm Mandy and this is Brian Ambition. We were all
Speaker 2: in sync.
Speaker 1: We wrote a little script, Oh did we well? O?
Speaker 1: Way we could try it. We could let people. We
Speaker 1: can ask the people if they.
Speaker 2: Like it, we can ask anyway. It just brought me
Speaker 2: back where we were so young that I.
Speaker 1: Do remember, like I did listen because you told me
Speaker 1: to listen to it. So I listened. I was like,
Speaker 1: all we were all talking about I was I think
Speaker 1: I said like my boyfriend, which I was like, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: you said the same, and you were like, I'm not
Speaker 1: sure if I would have kids right now. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at baby Manager and Tiffany.
Speaker 2: Our first episode was called something about baby Limbo.
Speaker 1: We were both we were yeah so much. Remember. I
Speaker 1: was like, Mandy, where did you get good underwear from?
Speaker 1: I remember that Pannies. Yes, your panny confession. You're like, girl,
Speaker 1: you can go to Marshalls and get good under I
Speaker 1: was like, this is true.
Speaker 2: No, no, I don't actually recommend Marshals. No, no, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I don't like underwear that lots of peoples both yeah, no, no, no, Fanny,
Speaker 2: you know. Ah man, So what's I'm actually in Saint
Speaker 2: Louis right now. I survived a fifteen hour which Google
Speaker 2: Map said fifteen hour. But what I came to find
Speaker 2: out is that to get to travel that fifteen hour distance,
Speaker 2: it takes like twenty five hours in toddler when you
Speaker 2: have a toddler in the car. When you have a
Speaker 2: toddler in a tesla, the double teas Toddler in Tesla.
Speaker 2: Tesla means you have to stop to charge every two hours,
Speaker 2: and I'm not even gonna play. It's a little inconvenient.
Speaker 2: I feel like if we had a gas car, we
Speaker 2: wouldn't have had to stop every every two hours. But
Speaker 2: of course, like Husby has this fancy app that tells
Speaker 2: him exactly how much to charge. So it wasn't like
Speaker 2: we're gonna go fill up the tank at the Tesla charge.
Speaker 2: You need to like these charging stations along the way.
Speaker 2: You have to like plan your trip that way. But
Speaker 2: it was like he was very specific, as we're going
Speaker 2: to stop for fifteen minutes here to get a twenty
Speaker 2: percent you know boost, and then we're going to really
Speaker 2: fill up, you know, ninety minutes down the road. We're
Speaker 2: gonna stay here for twenty five minutes to get the
Speaker 2: full one hundred percent. And it was just so I swear,
Speaker 2: I mean, but look, we survived. He's like, we're here,
Speaker 2: marriage is intact, the baby's alive, Rio is alive. Have
Speaker 2: you ever done a road trip that long before?
Speaker 1: I had, well, not not fifteen hours, but me and
Speaker 1: my husband and Supergirl we drove to Roanoke, Virginia for
Speaker 1: his best friend's wedding. Let's just say we got there
Speaker 1: and I immediately almost got back in the Carter's robe
Speaker 1: home because the nerve he was working. Literally, I was like,
Speaker 1: he said something. I drove and he said something. I
Speaker 1: tell you, Mandy. If it had not been a nine
Speaker 1: hour drive, I was gonna get myself back in that car.
Speaker 1: But I was like, were you gonna call Tiffany? And
Speaker 1: I was like, because I said what, Okay, you know what?
Speaker 1: And I was really thinking about it. I was like,
Speaker 1: can I uber that far? Should I get on a plane?
Speaker 2: I was gonna do anything. I was so pissed, but
Speaker 2: I was so I had. I had such a hard
Speaker 2: time sleeping the night before our trip because I was like,
Speaker 2: I don't know if we're going to survive this road trip.
Speaker 2: And I don't know why I said yes to this,
Speaker 2: And I even post on ig asking people for their tips,
Speaker 2: and I got a lot of like, girl, you in trouble.
Speaker 2: I have this to don't.
Speaker 1: I would have to say, honestly, the actual driving was
Speaker 1: actually good. The problem was that I trusted him to
Speaker 1: book the hotel, which basically, I mean, it's not it's
Speaker 1: not a far reach to say this is the motel
Speaker 1: where the Ladies of the Night bring their gentlemen callers literally, Mandy,
Speaker 1: we drove up and there was someone crawling out of
Speaker 1: the window at the motel. I looked at him, like
Speaker 1: after nine hours of driving because he couldn't drive because
Speaker 1: just like you know, like Superman had like an anurism
Speaker 1: years ago and like, and so it affected his ability
Speaker 1: to drive a long distances. So I drove the whole time.
Speaker 1: So I pull up. We see someone crawling out of
Speaker 1: a window of this place that looks like death warmed over.
Speaker 2: Were they injured?
Speaker 1: No, it was clearly like, hey, I finished doing whatever
Speaker 1: I do here and I don't want to walk through
Speaker 1: the front. And so we got in. I come in
Speaker 1: and I'm like, wait a minute. The room. I didn't
Speaker 1: even take off my coat. The bed. I was like,
Speaker 1: so there's one bed. Meanwhile, Supergirl, even though at the
Speaker 1: time she was maybe like ten or eleven, you know,
Speaker 1: she's really tall. Because he's sick, sick, So it was
Speaker 1: like three adults in one bed. And I'm like, how
Speaker 1: is this. I don't know. When I tell you, Mandy,
Speaker 1: it was you like we were sleeping in the hallway,
Speaker 1: because you can you can hear someone coughing in the hallway.
Speaker 1: It was just I just remember thinking, like and I said,
Speaker 1: did you check the reviews?
Speaker 2: So he was like, I.
Speaker 1: Guess he was embarrassed, so he got mad. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I know you. I know you're not mad at me
Speaker 1: because you got us in the Roach motel. So I
Speaker 1: was so pissed because one out of draw nine hours
Speaker 1: two you got into the Roach motel. Thankfully, his best
Speaker 1: friend on Walie, his wife, like she was super like,
Speaker 1: you know, smart, and she came was like what the hell,
Speaker 1: I said, girl, I don't even She was like, you
Speaker 1: know what, let me let me make a phone call.
Speaker 1: Within two minutes she had us in a really nice hotel,
Speaker 1: like two beds and like yeah. So it was just
Speaker 1: but when I tell you, I was this close to
Speaker 1: like being like you know what, I'm driving back, but
Speaker 1: how I don't have nine more hours in me? But yeah,
Speaker 1: So later he apologized, was like I was embarrassed. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2: I'm all first sorting things priced lowest to highest, but
Speaker 2: when it comes to hotels, it's gotta be sort by reviews.
Speaker 2: You can't.
Speaker 1: We Lowes Howard Johnson, Sir, we could do it, Howard Johnson.
Speaker 1: I mean, it doesn't have to be fancy, but red
Speaker 1: ru Literally the ladies at the night were looking at
Speaker 1: us like a family.
Speaker 2: But they're looking at Supergirl like. I mean, I was like, wait,
Speaker 2: what's going on here? But oh my god, steps work
Speaker 2: is work wherever you want, you know.
Speaker 1: You see what we did for only fans obviously.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, they clearly listened to Brown ambition and they
Speaker 2: want to be feeling our outrage. They were like, we
Speaker 2: don't want to be Popeyes without the business, you see,
Speaker 2: without the chickens.
Speaker 1: No, totally, yeah, I mean that is I mean, I
Speaker 1: guess they're going to figure that out letting, you know,
Speaker 1: allowing for that to continue. And here's the thing. Everyone's
Speaker 1: allowed to set a boundary. If you said on this platform,
Speaker 1: I don't want certain types of you know, like only
Speaker 1: fans accounts. That's great, but it just feels very predatory
Speaker 1: to like build your business off the back of a
Speaker 1: specific type of account and then once you've grown your
Speaker 1: name to kick them off, you know, for whatever reason
Speaker 1: that they are claiming.
Speaker 2: It's just like banning black choreographers.
Speaker 1: Yes, so it's just.
Speaker 2: Like hmm, yes, and he's going to create the vice content.
Speaker 1: Exactly who were you steal from?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: Wait did I say that so randomly? So this weekend?
Speaker 1: Have you heard of invest Fest?
Speaker 2: I have because I follow the those those gentlemen of
Speaker 2: Earn Your Leisure.
Speaker 1: Leisure No so had invited me, but you know, like
Speaker 1: a true man, he gave me like two days notice.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, okay, no, I cannot. I cannot
Speaker 1: abandon my family in such a short time. But no,
Speaker 1: it looks so invests Best. If you guys are not
Speaker 1: familiar it is. It was a I want to say,
Speaker 1: three day weekend conference that was launched their very first
Speaker 1: one by Earning Your Leisure. We've had them on the show.
Speaker 1: We've been on their show, and Earn Your Leisure is
Speaker 1: Rashad and Troy and they have a series of podcasts,
Speaker 1: but their main podcast is like Earn Your Leisure. And
Speaker 1: so they had like basically their first conference, which I
Speaker 1: because you already know we have the conference that we
Speaker 1: no longer talk about. Yes, I was giddy because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, now you're fake diversity ploy conference. We
Speaker 1: don't talk about what you're gonna do because they were
Speaker 1: actually brown and black people here like at invest Best
Speaker 1: that you did not try to plant to make it
Speaker 1: look like, hey, look we've got some browns in the mix.
Speaker 1: But it looked honestly amazing. One of my mentees went, so,
Speaker 1: she I haven't spoken to her yet, but it looked
Speaker 1: like day one they had like a lot of like
Speaker 1: Day one looked like they had a like musical performances, right,
Speaker 1: so I think like Neo performed fabulous, I think performed,
Speaker 1: and a bunch of other like musical performances they won,
Speaker 1: I know. And then the other two days were like,
Speaker 1: you know, workshops. I don't know if it was workshops,
Speaker 1: but I saw definitely like like Ryan Leslie spoke on
Speaker 1: stage and all these amazing like speakers that they had.
Speaker 1: So I don't know if they had workshops, but it's
Speaker 1: everything sold out. The vendor space sold down, the spaces
Speaker 1: like you know, like in person spaces sold that. It
Speaker 1: looked amazing. What really impressed me about INVESTMST one It
Speaker 1: didn't look like nob the first time out. You know
Speaker 1: how when you first do a conference, you know it's
Speaker 1: a little yanky yanky because you know you're still learning. No,
Speaker 1: it looked like year ten I had like a judging by,
Speaker 1: like the pictures and the video and things like that.
Speaker 1: It looked amay zing and from what I understand, actually,
Speaker 1: I was going to reach out to Ian, who's like
Speaker 1: one of their like, you know, he's on one of
Speaker 1: their podcasts they they do together called market Mondays. I
Speaker 1: saw people saying, I can't believe you guys planned this
Speaker 1: in two months, and I wanted to hit him and
Speaker 1: be like, y'all didn't play this in two months, did you?
Speaker 1: Because it looked so tight, professional like, even like the
Speaker 1: tags that people had, like their your VIP tax, everything
Speaker 1: was branded beautifully, and I'm like, I know, y'all didn't
Speaker 1: do this in two months. It looked amazing, And I
Speaker 1: just want to give, you know, kudos to the guys
Speaker 1: for creating a very inclusive financial I don't even know
Speaker 1: if you can call financial. It just it looks like
Speaker 1: nothing I had ever seen, you know, like conference that
Speaker 1: really I think it's just super smart. Remember that time
Speaker 1: you came to the very very first Literature Academy after
Speaker 1: party and we did the wobble and you were like,
Speaker 1: I've never thought I could do the wobble at like
Speaker 1: a financial part. Now, obviously it's not the same as
Speaker 1: what they're doing. But it's just as like, I just
Speaker 1: love the fact that financial education is being opened up
Speaker 1: to and accessible to those who have been left out
Speaker 1: through benign neglect or on purpose. And so just koodle.
Speaker 1: So if you're not familiar with invest Fest, I believe
Speaker 1: invest Fest has the social media like page, but then
Speaker 1: you can also go to investfest dot com just to
Speaker 1: see what we're talking about. I don't know if you
Speaker 1: can still buy like virtual tickets, but they had like
Speaker 1: virtual tickets for like ninety nine bucks if you want
Speaker 1: to watch any of the.
Speaker 2: Maybe it was in two months because like I didn't
Speaker 2: know about it until me either, so I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: that looked fun. Yeah, wow, that's really impressive, though, shout
Speaker 2: out to them. I feel like we should repost that episode.
Speaker 2: It was like a couple months ago we had we
Speaker 2: had Roy Sean just beaves them a celebrity couple or Tricia.
Speaker 1: And and Ian was a.
Speaker 2: Surprise guest on us on that episode. Well, shout out
Speaker 2: to them. And it also feels good because I feel
Speaker 2: like there was a certain class of groundbreakers in black
Speaker 2: and brown financial influencer space who who kind of had
Speaker 2: to first break the door open for us to be
Speaker 2: accepted into very white, you know, traditional spaces, and now
Speaker 2: like it feels as if, well, if that we're going
Speaker 2: to create our own space, you know, and then there
Speaker 2: is no breaking down. It's just I feel like there's
Speaker 2: like there often there's a point when it's sort of
Speaker 2: it almost seems scary to to try to enter into
Speaker 2: or necessary rather not scary, but necessary to try to
Speaker 2: enter into a white space first and to be accepted,
Speaker 2: like we first in order to even have in order
Speaker 2: for us to even have our influence or to have authority,
Speaker 2: to to lend authority to our name and like, you know, credibility,
Speaker 2: you have to be accepted and show that you've been
Speaker 2: accepted into these white spaces. And that does not seem
Speaker 2: to be the case anymore. It's almost as if now
Speaker 2: it's becoming more acceptable for us to just be ourselves
Speaker 2: and to show that our audiences accept us and their
Speaker 2: tastes and their opinions are like, there is credence to
Speaker 2: that there, you know, it does give us credibility. And
Speaker 2: I just think that that's that's really what the e
Speaker 2: Weil e wil e y l ey.
Speaker 1: Sharing are doing that. But you know, but to your point,
Speaker 1: like that couldn't happen without the linettes. You no, the
Speaker 1: you know, because the truth of the matter is, oh,
Speaker 1: thank you, but no, honestly, the truth of the matter
Speaker 1: is is that without that, sometimes even your own people
Speaker 1: don't find like you, like, you know, because unless you
Speaker 1: were on the Today showgum more in America these other things,
Speaker 1: sometimes even black and brown people were like, I don't
Speaker 1: know because literally someone people would write in my comments
Speaker 1: just saw you on the real now I know you're real,
Speaker 1: you know, or just saw you on whatever. And so that,
Speaker 1: you know, breaking open. And I love the fact that
Speaker 1: we no longer have to go that route anymore. But
Speaker 1: certainly in the beginning, it wasn't just like looking to
Speaker 1: be accepted by white audiences. So white audience could accept
Speaker 1: white audiences could accept us. It was so even black
Speaker 1: and brown audiences could accept and trust us. And so
Speaker 1: it just feels really good to see this wide range
Speaker 1: that people are represented that were it wasn't so before.
Speaker 1: And so I'm just like, go ahead, y'all, like I
Speaker 1: can't imagine, I am out of work that it's taken,
Speaker 1: and it just what it's going to do now is
Speaker 1: that they've opened the door for the next the next
Speaker 1: crop of creators to show up exactly as they are,
Speaker 1: exactly how they are, and knowing that there's going to
Speaker 1: be an audience that's going to embrace them. So like,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that we're groundbreakers. Come on, brown ambition.
Speaker 1: There was no black brown financial pocket. We've been in
Speaker 1: the game six years. I know.
Speaker 2: We are just like the pod fairy god grandmother.
Speaker 3: Oh gs, yes, ogs, oh man, I was using libs
Speaker 3: day it was garage banned twelve point oh.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, oh yeah, so, oh my gosh.
Speaker 2: So so there are some shirtless construction men across the way.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that they actually did that outside of
Speaker 2: like Sex and the City and calendars. But they really
Speaker 2: are building a whole house with barely any clothes on it,
Speaker 2: just from my mom's house.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, okay, okay, this is a random twist.
Speaker 1: So Superman called me today because Supergirl, Supergirl, Supergirl, So
Speaker 1: y'all know, like I am helping to raise a teen
Speaker 1: and remember that time she acted up and we had
Speaker 1: to take the door off her office.
Speaker 2: My favorite Supergirl and birds. So what did the note say?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, it said, so those of you who
Speaker 1: don't know a little backstory. Yeah, Supergirls my stepdaughter, and
Speaker 1: you know, just like most kids, she's actually a really
Speaker 1: good kid, but sometimes, you know, she's a little beside herself,
Speaker 1: and so I when she's with us half the time,
Speaker 1: literally we get her for like two or three weeks,
Speaker 1: then she's with her mother for two or three weeks,
Speaker 1: but we see her in between because she and her
Speaker 1: mother we live all in the same town, so we're
Speaker 1: everyone super close. So I used to when she would
Speaker 1: be away for two or three weeks, I would go
Speaker 1: in her room to air it out, open windows, you know,
Speaker 1: and I guess she felt like dunk on my room
Speaker 1: because I'm a teenager and so girl. So I went
Speaker 1: to go. Tracy, my sister, who was staying with me
Speaker 1: at the time, came to me was like, did you
Speaker 1: go buy Supergirl's room?
Speaker 3: I was like no.
Speaker 1: She said, did you read the note on the door.
Speaker 1: I'm like no, I go to the door. There's a
Speaker 1: note please do not enter my room if you need
Speaker 1: and she's like the windows are already opened, Like because
Speaker 1: obviously she's talking to me. If you need anything, yes,
Speaker 1: if you need anything, please call my mother at this number.
Speaker 1: So I'm needing to call.
Speaker 2: Her mother to enter and she don't have her number already.
Speaker 1: Girl, Oh, but to enter and me like to enter
Speaker 1: into a room that is at my house that I
Speaker 1: paid for with my husband. So when I tell you
Speaker 1: I snatched that note, Somar, I took a picture and
Speaker 1: said to her father. He was so mad. And I'm
Speaker 1: ashamed to say, because I was feeling so mad, so
Speaker 1: I called her. I said, hey, yeah, I saw your note. No,
Speaker 1: I'm in your room right now. She was steps, that's
Speaker 1: my feet and you were And I'm ashamed to say
Speaker 1: I did that, but I was so mad, and I
Speaker 1: was like, you don't get to tell any adult in
Speaker 1: this house where they can't go. No one is like,
Speaker 1: you know, we weren't invading her privacy, like you can't
Speaker 1: be gone for two weeks and then because one you're
Speaker 1: the you know, kids are kids, so there might be
Speaker 1: laundry that's thinking up the joint or maybe no one
Speaker 1: because honestly, she's a good kid. She's not like out
Speaker 1: here dropping it like it's hot, but like you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes opening just opening the window so there's some light
Speaker 1: that comes in. Even I don't care what it is.
Speaker 1: I could just come in here because I want to
Speaker 1: put my pinky toe on the ground, but like to
Speaker 1: write that. And I said, for you, and just so
Speaker 1: we're clear, because I love her mom, I said, And
Speaker 1: I told her, you know, just so we're clear. Although
Speaker 1: I love your mom, she doesn't have any agency in
Speaker 1: this house. I don't have to ever call her to
Speaker 1: ask what I can do in my house, just like
Speaker 1: I would never expect that you have to get permission
Speaker 1: for me to figure out what to do at your
Speaker 1: mom's house because your mom is is an adult there,
Speaker 1: she's the boss there. So anyway, my husband was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, we're taking it back to old school.
Speaker 1: She came back to no door. She had no door
Speaker 1: on her room, she said, since she want to, since
Speaker 1: you want to keep doors closed her room for like
Speaker 1: for like two weeks, and so she learned her lesson
Speaker 1: really well. Definitely apologize, she said. No, it was just
Speaker 1: a general note for everyone everyone that knows. For me,
Speaker 1: he says, because why why would you need to give
Speaker 1: your father your mother's number. Of course he has it too,
Speaker 1: you know it's me that opens the windows. So anyway,
Speaker 1: she's back at it like she never left. So she's
Speaker 1: turning fifteen, oh so grown, and she promised her dad
Speaker 1: that she would do something. I forget whatever it was,
Speaker 1: and oh, they were supposed to watch a movie together.
Speaker 1: And then she she changed her mind, but in a
Speaker 1: way that was really rude. And you know, mine are
Speaker 1: so sensitive, so in her his feelings and he told her,
Speaker 1: you know, that her my feelings and she basically she
Speaker 1: was like, oh, well, oh well, ain't my problem. And
Speaker 1: he was like, okay, well, since we're being selfish. You
Speaker 1: know how you wanted me to pay for your birthday party.
Speaker 1: You want to have a big shin dig at the house,
Speaker 1: you can still have it, you know, because this house
Speaker 1: is yours. But I'm not participating. I'm not paying for anything.
Speaker 1: Because if you can make a promise that you can break,
Speaker 1: you know, when it comes to me, then I can
Speaker 1: make a promise that I can break to say, well,
Speaker 1: you know what, you know, you can have your party here.
Speaker 1: But the plates, the cups, the napkins, the ice, all
Speaker 1: these things that she just take for granted because the
Speaker 1: other day she told him because he told her that
Speaker 1: she should be doing chores, and she said, I feel
Speaker 1: like I shouldn't be doing chores in the summertime, that
Speaker 1: my job as a kid is to have fun and
Speaker 1: just to do my summer, and just to do my
Speaker 1: summer in America.
Speaker 2: Girl.
Speaker 1: And then she said this will have me rolling down
Speaker 1: the stair because you know, I was listening, like, oh God,
Speaker 1: not doing me. I'm just listening. And she's like, what
Speaker 1: about she said something like her upstairs? I said her, girl,
Speaker 1: the way I flewd down the stairs, I almost fell.
Speaker 1: I said, I think she said them right? Or I
Speaker 1: said who who her? Who's her? Basically saying like, why
Speaker 1: don't she do chores? I said, who who's? Who's her?
Speaker 1: She looked like, I guess she didn't think I heard.
Speaker 2: I was like, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: My husband looked at me, was like no, I said,
Speaker 1: oh no, no, no, no, who who was her upstairs?
Speaker 1: That you're comparing yourself to pictured her?
Speaker 2: Man with all the six arm just like just holding
Speaker 2: me back. No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: Explain her her that you think that you and not
Speaker 1: on the same level, that you can compare what your
Speaker 1: chores ought to be to what my chores ought to be.
Speaker 1: She said, no, but I feel like kids. I said, no,
Speaker 1: I'm let me tell you something. What kids do? I said,
Speaker 1: I told her. I was like, you know, we pay
Speaker 1: for food, We pay for them to make sure that
Speaker 1: you have a place to see. She said, yeah, that's
Speaker 1: what you're supposed to do, and I said, I agree,
Speaker 1: and you know what, you're supposed to do chores because
Speaker 1: she was fighting that she didn't think she ought to
Speaker 1: do chores because she only lives here part time, and
Speaker 1: I said, well, the part that you live here, you're
Speaker 1: doing chores, oh, child Like, so I don't even know. Sometimes,
Speaker 1: I mean, if those of y'all raising teenagers, the financial
Speaker 1: component sometimes it's so tricky because obviously Superman and I
Speaker 1: in a really good position to be able to provide
Speaker 1: for her, which we do, but it's always like how
Speaker 1: much provision do you provide? You know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Because I feel like there's a lack of gratefulness there,
Speaker 1: only because not because she's some nasty kid, but only
Speaker 1: because she doesn't know what it's like not to have,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So for her, she's like, well,
Speaker 1: of course I get these things, of course. So like
Speaker 1: that's really the struggle when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Like, I'm obsessed with that entire conversation. I'm obsessed with
Speaker 2: that problem for parents who had who were from the
Speaker 2: class of like for example. Well, first of all, I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think either of us, especially myself. I'll speak
Speaker 2: for myself. I did not grow up poor. We had
Speaker 2: times in our life when we had a lot less,
Speaker 2: especially post divorce and my mom getting back on her feet.
Speaker 2: But I but to that I had less than I
Speaker 2: have now, and I certainly grew up with a lot
Speaker 2: more financial insecurity than I hope Rio will have to endure.
Speaker 2: But I also credit a lot of my upbringing with
Speaker 2: my success. You know the fact that I knew no
Speaker 2: one was gonna support and like no one could financially
Speaker 2: rescue me when I lost my job, I had to
Speaker 2: just like cobble together an income and you know, get
Speaker 2: onto the next step. And I'm obsessed with children of
Speaker 2: first time financially stable parents. I haven't thought of like
Speaker 2: a buzzword for us yet. Yeah no, But how do
Speaker 2: you manufacture struggle for them in a way that doesn't
Speaker 2: it doesn't make you, like feel terrible. But she needs
Speaker 2: a struggle. I think it just has to be like
Speaker 2: an intentional manufacturing of struggle, and in a way that
Speaker 2: goes against everything that we want.
Speaker 1: I also don't know and I say this like like
Speaker 1: I'm not like we're not the parents that gets like
Speaker 1: like the Jordans and this and that that's not what's happening. Obviously,
Speaker 1: she has her own room, you know her, and she's
Speaker 1: got the only cause of her. The bathroom is not
Speaker 1: huge in her in her in her room, but whoever
Speaker 1: lived there before created like this cute, small little en suite.
Speaker 1: And so this is the first time, like since we
Speaker 1: moved here because where we lived before she didn't have
Speaker 1: her own room. So she got her own room. Well,
Speaker 1: she had her own room, but not her own bathroom
Speaker 1: inside her own room. And I wouldn't say, like, you know,
Speaker 1: she doesn't. It's not that she's like you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: certainly she's got more than I'm gotten, but like I
Speaker 1: don't buy the Jordans and like the Puma or something.
Speaker 1: I mean, her parents sometimes do, but I don't even
Speaker 1: know if it's an excess. I just don't think that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just always knew as a kid we
Speaker 1: didn't have it, you know what I mean. Like I
Speaker 1: can't remember, honestly senior year wanting like a senior jacket.
Speaker 1: And I didn't even ask my mom because I knew
Speaker 1: we didn't have it. I remember having decided having did
Speaker 1: this because senior year in high school, you know, you
Speaker 1: have all these activities and they were like six of them,
Speaker 1: and I literally knowing that I could choose one, you know,
Speaker 1: and so thinking like, she doesn't have to think of
Speaker 1: those things, and so I don't. I honestly don't know
Speaker 1: how to like manufacture struggle honestly because obviously it's not working.
Speaker 2: But mean, I struggle every day. I struggle with her upstairs.
Speaker 1: But she I will say this that that day, which
Speaker 1: is very mature of her. This is without prodding from
Speaker 1: her father. She wrote me like a really beautiful letter apologizing.
Speaker 1: She like is like, I know, I can't imagine how
Speaker 1: hard it is to raise someone else's child. I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: look at her, you know. And she was like, you know,
Speaker 1: you didn't deserve that because you've always been kind, because
Speaker 1: I'm always like her advocate and you've always been kind. No,
Speaker 1: it's been and good thing is about our relationship, is
Speaker 1: she and like I spoke to her after that happened.
Speaker 1: I called her mother, and she and her mother we
Speaker 1: have always had a really great relationship. So she was like, oh,
Speaker 1: hello girl, She's like, I always tell her, that's not
Speaker 1: the one you want a problem with TIV. It's always
Speaker 1: in your corner.
Speaker 2: I am.
Speaker 1: I'm usually like no, so, man, I think you wrong
Speaker 1: on this one. And so she's like, so we had
Speaker 1: like so that was the good thing about it is that,
Speaker 1: like I wasn't worried about what is her mother gonna say,
Speaker 1: cause we had a really great talk and she gave
Speaker 1: me some great feedback of some things I can do,
Speaker 1: and like, you know, she's apologized right away. But that
Speaker 1: is the struggle. I'm not gonna lie because she doesn't struggle,
Speaker 1: and it's very difficult to manufacture that. I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't feel like we overindulge, but we don't underindulge in
Speaker 1: some places. And I'm like, we ought to. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: see if he's gonna stick to not paying for the
Speaker 1: I'm like, that's the thing too. You can't just say
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna pay for the party and then pay
Speaker 1: for the party. Yeah, you know, so if I would,
Speaker 1: this is what I would think. This is what I
Speaker 1: think is probably gonna be better, is that I will
Speaker 1: match what you put up because she works like she does,
Speaker 1: like side jobs and stuff, so that might be better.
Speaker 1: Like the other day she broke her she got a
Speaker 1: computer for her birthday because she needed quarantine. And she
Speaker 1: asked me, like a few days ago, she got a
Speaker 1: computer for her birthday, like two years ago. She asked me, like, Tiffany,
Speaker 1: do we still have insurance on the computer? I'm like, why,
Speaker 1: She said, well, according to Apple, it looks like there
Speaker 1: was some pressure put on it. I'm like, it looks like, oh,
Speaker 1: you sad on it. Like what are we saying here?
Speaker 1: She was like, so, I'm guessing we don't have insurance.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I was like, did you break your computer? Mean,
Speaker 1: it's either yes or no. Sis, you're the only one
Speaker 1: that uses your computer. So that's that cost a few
Speaker 1: hundred bucks to fix. And we told her, like, you
Speaker 1: have to pay for that, you know that, you know, certainly,
Speaker 1: like you know, at least half of it, because she
Speaker 1: has to learn. So you're raising kids, especially has it
Speaker 1: relates to money, especially if you're not struggling financially, certainly
Speaker 1: is like this thing because I don't want to, you know,
Speaker 1: there's a reason why, Like super and I are not, like,
Speaker 1: you know, we're not all wild with our money because
Speaker 1: we know like what it's like not to have, and
Speaker 1: so I just worry that she's going to live like
Speaker 1: foolishly because she doesn't know what it's not. She doesn't
Speaker 1: know what it's like not to have.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well I got no answers for you, but
Speaker 2: I don't. I'm upset. Well, you should have answers for me,
Speaker 2: because you're ahead of the game.
Speaker 1: And that's how tweet us. Tweet us at the BA
Speaker 1: podcast if you've got some suggestions, please, Lord, Like, we
Speaker 1: can't take the door again. He could almost put it
Speaker 1: back on again. He was like, I don't know how
Speaker 1: to put this back up.
Speaker 2: How do you manufacture struggle so that they cause the
Speaker 2: thing is you either. It kind of goes back to
Speaker 2: the whole idea of like we did not get spankings
Speaker 2: that often. I would say I didn't really get spanked
Speaker 2: after I was like five, but in Black Household it
Speaker 2: was very common to grow up that way, and you
Speaker 2: know a lot and especially like black boys. And I
Speaker 2: think I was reading in Tanahasse Coates's book Between the
Speaker 2: World and Me where he's talking about his dad explaining
Speaker 2: why he's doing it, and it's kind of like to
Speaker 2: prepare you either I beat you or the world will
Speaker 2: because it's really you know, it's very it can be
Speaker 2: really dangerous out there, and it's it's not that I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't believe in in like physical punishment. I think
Speaker 2: that there's plenty of studies at show that does not
Speaker 2: actually do what you think is doing. I agree, but
Speaker 2: it's almost like I do think that there is something
Speaker 2: to be said for if you do not prepare them
Speaker 2: financially to take to like no one will. We all
Speaker 2: know you're not going to get the education in school
Speaker 2: unless you live somewhere where the budget neeste laws and
Speaker 2: effect you, or you know they're not going to get
Speaker 2: it in college. And do you really want to wait
Speaker 2: for the next like economic downturn for them to fall
Speaker 2: on their butts? You know? I do think that there
Speaker 2: are things that we can do to to not to
Speaker 2: manufacture struggle in like a negative sense, but to give
Speaker 2: them opportunities to rise, like to give them opportunities to
Speaker 2: prove that you can trust them or that they can
Speaker 2: be trusted, and to win as much as they may
Speaker 2: struggle financially, Like I'll never forget buying my prom dress
Speaker 2: for senior year and just paying for that dress. It
Speaker 2: was like two hundred and something dollars. I think I
Speaker 2: got it out of a catalog. I felt so rewarding
Speaker 2: to me, and I think that it wasn't like my
Speaker 2: mom punished me but asked me to pay for it.
Speaker 2: But I don't know, giving them opportunities to like to
Speaker 2: rise to the occasion, Yeah, that can really and I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't want Rio to go out into the world
Speaker 2: and not know how to bounce back.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he gets that's his blood, you know. So
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, girl, we about to have a birthday
Speaker 1: party with no place, no neck is.
Speaker 2: No food, no maybe she'll have an amazing birthday. And
Speaker 2: she'd be like, you know what, I realized, you don't
Speaker 2: need very You don't.
Speaker 1: Need that much outside. That's all we provide is outside.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Thankfully she doesn't listen to the podcast.
Speaker 2: She'd be like, look how different the conversation is six
Speaker 2: years later. Look at with our real live humans, our
Speaker 2: guinea pigs.
Speaker 1: Well, do you want to boost? Do you want to break?
Speaker 1: Because now it's time to boost or break or boost
Speaker 1: or brown boost a brown breaking. You know what was
Speaker 1: so crazy in the beginning. I think we only used
Speaker 1: to do brown break. In the beginning, remember, yeah.
Speaker 2: We called it something different. It was like brown brilliance.
Speaker 2: Was it a positive one?
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, and then brown break.
Speaker 2: And then I think we just became we were like
Speaker 2: we never do brilliance. We just always want to break.
Speaker 1: I don't know because yes, no, because I remember, because
Speaker 1: we was that that that that, you know, the administration
Speaker 1: that shall not be named. I think we were having
Speaker 1: such a hard time we were like, we need some positivity.
Speaker 1: So we added like, let's we need to be boosting
Speaker 1: as well.
Speaker 2: So yeah, we went negative, then back to positive. But
Speaker 2: I think we all ended up where we need to.
Speaker 2: It was just very bizarre to read the old We
Speaker 2: were so organized in the beginning. Someone was just our
Speaker 2: producer Sarah was like, yeah, it'd be nice to know
Speaker 2: like show topics and advance.
Speaker 1: I was like, but we'll let you know what we know.
Speaker 2: Whatever whatever strikes us. But yeah, So I have actually
Speaker 2: a few options because I've been taking I've been like
Speaker 2: writing down things, trying to get back in the habit.
Speaker 2: I found my special Brown Ambition notebook.
Speaker 1: Nice it's got at that. Look at that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a little chocolate. I wish I could never please
Speaker 2: I'm a blonde roast. We all know that. Anyway, Tiffany's
Speaker 2: an espresso AnyWho. What was I saying? I have like
Speaker 2: crazy road trip brain, So a couple of things. I
Speaker 2: want to take a break. Here's what I'm gonna do.
Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna choose this one. I want to
Speaker 2: take a break from college degrees. We kind of towed
Speaker 2: around this a little bit when we had my financial
Speaker 2: planner Helen on the show a few months back. We
Speaker 2: were talking about the importance of saving for your children
Speaker 2: and one of the tried and ways of saving for
Speaker 2: your child is a five to nine college savings plan.
Speaker 2: And at the time Helen was helping me kind of
Speaker 2: see beyond, like you know, college is not the only
Speaker 2: measure of success. And I think the next generation, like
Speaker 2: Rio's generation, will grow up in a different world where
Speaker 2: you know, we don't equate college degrees and college education
Speaker 2: as a pathway to success as much as is a
Speaker 2: pathway to the depths of debt, because it can be
Speaker 2: I mean not always, but it can often lead to
Speaker 2: so much debt for nothing because you may realize you
Speaker 2: don't want to study what you studied. You may have
Speaker 2: gone into school too quickly, maybe you should have taken
Speaker 2: a gap year to like find yourself or whatnot. Anyway,
Speaker 2: so we brought that up then, and I think the
Speaker 2: pandemic has even further for me driven home the fact
Speaker 2: that the societal pressure on having a college degree is
Speaker 2: actually can sometimes hurt more than it helps. And the
Speaker 2: specific thing that I want to talk about for my
Speaker 2: break was how it hurts job applicants, because still to
Speaker 2: this day, most it feels like job applications they have
Speaker 2: like it's like there's you have dozens and dozens of
Speaker 2: hundreds of resumes coming in, and I've seen it because
Speaker 2: I've been on the hiring side, and you have this software.
Speaker 2: You have software that you can use or tools that
Speaker 2: you can use to weed out applicants based on keywords,
Speaker 2: and you may, for example, weed out anyone that doesn't
Speaker 2: include the word degree, or anyone that doesn't include bachelor
Speaker 2: or whatever in there, or doesn't check a box saying
Speaker 2: that they've completed higher education, college or higher And the
Speaker 2: problem is that so many jobs, like for example, my cousin,
Speaker 2: who I don't think would even be upset by me
Speaker 2: mentioning this, she has been living with me since February
Speaker 2: she's been my personal assistant slash nanny south slash O
Speaker 2: pair up until July and when Rio started daycare. And
Speaker 2: Anna is halfway through well she's like three quarters of
Speaker 2: her way through a healthcare administration degree. Okay, she is
Speaker 2: so freaking smart, can do anything. Is so like emotionally
Speaker 2: intelligent and mature for her age.
Speaker 1: And this woman has applied dozens of.
Speaker 2: Jobs and with all of my career advice and all
Speaker 2: of my resume, she hasn't gotten any jobs. And she's
Speaker 2: been looking for like administrative assistant positions. You know, she's
Speaker 2: studying healthcare administration. So we've been you know, I even
Speaker 2: like was like go to this this place where I
Speaker 2: get my group on laser laser hair removal and see
Speaker 2: if they want see if they need an admin.
Speaker 1: You've been looking for admin.
Speaker 2: So but listen, Okay, not the kind of admin where
Speaker 2: like she's schedules sing. She's not so good at that.
Speaker 2: But like, you know, FA, I believe me, I would
Speaker 2: have referred her to you.
Speaker 1: Tis that girl looking for admin. But I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: she would.
Speaker 2: Be my brown ambition admin. Okay, anyway, but she's got
Speaker 2: these qualifications. But we just know it's because she hasn't
Speaker 2: finished her degree. And literally in the job market today,
Speaker 2: where there's such a shortage of labor, you know, a
Speaker 2: shortage of labor and huge demand for at the same time,
Speaker 2: it just seems like antiquated that people are potentially passing
Speaker 2: up candidates based on something that is a little bit arbitrary. So, like,
Speaker 2: I see the importance of education obviously, you know, college degree,
Speaker 2: especially if it's in a field that's tied to the
Speaker 2: job that you're applying for, it can't indicate that you
Speaker 2: have some preparation for the role. But for jobs that
Speaker 2: you can really learn on the job, you know, assistant roles,
Speaker 2: like there are plenty of jobs where you don't really
Speaker 2: need someone who has job experience. You need someone who
Speaker 2: is who has all the qualities that Anna has that
Speaker 2: are not easily put on a resume, like knows how
Speaker 2: to handle conflict, knows how to juggle multiple tasks at once.
Speaker 2: You know, it is intuitive about people's needs without needing
Speaker 2: to be told, like these are things that you just
Speaker 2: can't teach, you know. And so I brought that up
Speaker 2: because I was listening to another podcast, Planet Money The Indicator,
Speaker 2: which is good, and they featured college degrees, and they
Speaker 2: actually interviewed someone who used to work for the Obama
Speaker 2: administration and he now works for this organization that I
Speaker 2: hadn't heard of called Opportunity Work, which is actually a
Speaker 2: nonprofit that helps people who don't have college degrees find better,
Speaker 2: more meaningful employment. Anyway, So that's that's my break, and
Speaker 2: it's very frustrating to me. And I would say, if
Speaker 2: you're in a position of hiring, you know, really look
Speaker 2: at your job. Even ask your HR reps when they're
Speaker 2: recruiting for roles, you know, what are your how are
Speaker 2: you filtering out candidates? What are you really looking for?
Speaker 2: And actually ask yourself if you need to put Bachelor
Speaker 2: of Arts required for certain roles, because you could be
Speaker 2: you could really be excluding a lot of people. You know,
Speaker 2: a lot of people. I think something like more than
Speaker 2: half the country doesn't even have a college degree. So
Speaker 2: it's not even a black, brown, white issue, it's just
Speaker 2: an everybody issue. But yeah, stay in school and all
Speaker 2: that college is great, but it can't be the only
Speaker 2: requirement for a job.
Speaker 1: I agree, so a few things. One but that's why
Speaker 1: I did. I don't have five twenty nine plans for
Speaker 1: the kids in my life. I have what does that
Speaker 1: thing called custodio plans, So it's just me. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm missing out, yes on the tax benefit, but it's
Speaker 1: basically I get to set aside money. I get to
Speaker 1: let the money grow, but at the end you get
Speaker 1: to decide how you want to use it. Because my
Speaker 1: nieces and my nephew most of them are under the
Speaker 1: age of six, well all of them are under the
Speaker 1: age of six, and although Supergirl is fourteen, still you
Speaker 1: just don't know, like where you know, life is going ahead.
Speaker 1: So that's one.
Speaker 2: Two.
Speaker 1: Shout out to John Lye. She listens to Brown ambitions.
Speaker 1: She's been on my team for the last like four years.
Speaker 1: She was like, I applied to be Mandy, to be
Speaker 1: coached by Mandy. She's even try to use your name
Speaker 1: to be like, you know, I work with the budget list.
Speaker 1: She said that I was just talking about John Elyse
Speaker 1: on like last Friday or whatever. She was like, she
Speaker 1: didn't choose, not done choosing. That's not true. I have
Speaker 1: my own system.
Speaker 2: I haven't weeded anyone out, but I sorted them in
Speaker 2: a certain way. The earlier you applied and the sooner
Speaker 2: you said you wanted to switch jobs. That is that's
Speaker 2: how I prioritize. I'm only.
Speaker 1: As you still got you love I finally all the
Speaker 1: things that Mandy's doing online. She was like, first of all,
Speaker 1: she has been listening to Brown Ambition from the very
Speaker 1: literally episode one, and so she is like a huge fan.
Speaker 1: She's like, oh my god, I love Mandy. I can't
Speaker 1: believe she finally left. I felt like she was like,
Speaker 1: it was so crazy the way she was starting about you, like,
Speaker 1: can you believe she finally left corporate? That is real
Speaker 1: crazy because I know.
Speaker 2: I'm like you are fans fourteen she said she wouldn't.
Speaker 1: And then third, a woman emailed me today. I was
Speaker 1: on this podcast with I forget Tory's last name, of
Speaker 1: her her first her first one hundred K. It's called
Speaker 1: Financial Faneminist, and we talked about like the wealth gap,
Speaker 1: and a woman emailed me after hearing me on that
Speaker 1: podcast and said, I am a white woman. I am
Speaker 1: in Portland, Maine, and I have a bakery and it's
Speaker 1: getting larger. And I heard what you said about people
Speaker 1: making an effort to really like be make their hiring
Speaker 1: practices more accessible to other people. And she was like,
Speaker 1: I want to do that. I don't know how, and
Speaker 1: so I gave her some suggestions, and one of them
Speaker 1: was that almost every profession has a black or brown
Speaker 1: association attached to it, Like there's the Black Association of Accountants,
Speaker 1: a Black Association of you know, I don't know, like
Speaker 1: you know Manicuria. Yes, And I told her you can
Speaker 1: find the Black Association of Bakers. I promise you that
Speaker 1: there is, and then you can reach out to them
Speaker 1: and say, hey, are you know I'm I'm interviewing and
Speaker 1: I would like to be inclusive in my interviewing and
Speaker 1: you know where could I find folks where I am?
Speaker 1: So I just thought that that was, like, you know,
Speaker 1: like that that is a way that you can be inclusive,
Speaker 1: because I think a lot of people think too when
Speaker 1: they're hiring black or brown, that you're doing somebody a favor. No, sis,
Speaker 1: you're not. You are you are doing yourself a favor
Speaker 1: because you're looking for qualified applicants in a wider pool.
Speaker 1: You're not doing like I guess you can come on
Speaker 1: with your you know, non professional self now. And so
Speaker 1: like that was like, you know, that's something I wrote
Speaker 1: to her to make sure that she understands that you're
Speaker 1: bringing folks on because they are highly qualified. But the
Speaker 1: blessing is you get a wider pool of people that
Speaker 1: you get to lean into. So that's it. But and
Speaker 1: my boost is actually really fast. My boost is just
Speaker 1: like your girl's gonna be a Target.
Speaker 2: I was just in there and I was book the
Speaker 2: other day. I thought, you Target, this is amazing.
Speaker 1: So Target, if any, I mean, first of all, I
Speaker 1: love Target. I'm wearing like Target tights right now. I
Speaker 1: think the shortage from Target Target right, I love Target.
Speaker 1: You go in there and literally just smile. You're like,
Speaker 1: it's my happy place. And I wanted to be in
Speaker 1: Target from the very beginning with Gega with Money my
Speaker 1: my new New York Times bestseller. But the thing about
Speaker 1: Target is, you know, Target is not a bookstore. So
Speaker 1: if you ever go to the Target book section, I
Speaker 1: mean it's like two half shelves, you.
Speaker 2: Know, so there are only bestsellers basically, and some romance
Speaker 2: novels exactly.
Speaker 1: And then so what you'll see more heavily. Sometimes you'll
Speaker 1: see kids books there because it like it lends himself
Speaker 1: to that. But the truth is Target doesn't have a
Speaker 1: huge book section because it's not a bookstore. So it's
Speaker 1: not easy getting into Target, not by a long shot,
Speaker 1: even if you have a bestseller, cause they're like, sis,
Speaker 1: there are maybe there might be two hundred best sellers.
Speaker 1: We can't put two hundred books out here. But they
Speaker 1: reached out to my publisher was like, we're doing this
Speaker 1: like wellness like component for September and we want to
Speaker 1: showcase get it with money because we think it's part
Speaker 1: of like well I was like, not targ show. So
Speaker 1: if you want to see me acting a full I suggest.
Speaker 1: So my content team was like, Tiffany, we need you
Speaker 1: to go to Target and take some videos and pictures.
Speaker 1: And I'm like, it's not in there yet. They're like, yeah,
Speaker 1: we need ahead of time. So I packed five of
Speaker 1: my books into my bag. I dragged one of my besties,
Speaker 1: Cabral I said We're going to Target and act a fool.
Speaker 1: He's like what, I'm like, just come. So I put
Speaker 1: my books on the shelf and at first we were
Speaker 1: taking pictures, but that seems a little too boring. I
Speaker 1: was like, I feel like it's not reading Target. What
Speaker 1: is iconic Target the cart So at my big age,
Speaker 1: I climbed into the Yes, I climbed into the cart
Speaker 1: and I asked a poor stock boy who looked like,
Speaker 1: please don't get me fired. I was like, I'm going
Speaker 1: to need you to push me pack past this section
Speaker 1: of books while he takes a boomerang, and so he's like,
Speaker 1: as long as my manager doesn't see. So if you
Speaker 1: want to see my target shenanigans, go to my Instagram
Speaker 1: page to a budgetissa And you know I don't post
Speaker 1: a whole lot, so it should be within the first
Speaker 1: few posts that you can see me inside the target
Speaker 1: cart just acting crazy. And so by September, by the
Speaker 1: time this comes out on Wednesday, it should be in
Speaker 1: your Target stores. I'm going to go see obviously, and
Speaker 1: if it's in New Jersey, I'm going to go to
Speaker 1: a few of the Target stores do like mini meetups
Speaker 1: in the aisles. So I'll just let you guys know
Speaker 1: when the time cometh. So yeah, I'm just excited.
Speaker 2: So yeah, that is so freaking amazing.
Speaker 1: Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 2: It is the gift that keeps on giving. The long tail.
Speaker 2: It was not just like a one hit wonder. It
Speaker 2: feels like we're it got all the buzz and everyone
Speaker 2: got it because you're on GMA, but it clearly is
Speaker 2: still having an impact, which is just feel like, if
Speaker 2: you're only gonna do the one which you say, you know.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll see. But if I'm gonna do the one
Speaker 1: I wanted.
Speaker 2: To be after I pushed that baby out of mine
Speaker 2: own Vagina by two said that would be it. But
Speaker 2: just recently, just recently, I have been feeling pangs that
Speaker 2: I never thought my body would. I was like you
Speaker 2: and me, we agree never again. But I'm just saying,
Speaker 2: if it's anything like having a baby, you might you
Speaker 2: might be.
Speaker 1: Thinking I know it too.
Speaker 2: We'll see you, little Sole often. See what happened?
Speaker 1: All right, y'all? That is the shizzle. We hope that
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Speaker 1: is not just for you. Don't be selfish. You to
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Speaker 2: If it's anything less than five, you can just go
Speaker 2: to the fridge and grab a snack because maybe you
Speaker 2: just need to Maybe you just need a quick snack
Speaker 2: and a stretch, and then go leave me five start
Speaker 2: and don't forget. Friday is our b a QA.
Speaker 1: Yes, if you have a question taking your questions, Yes,
Speaker 1: you could d m us on Instagram. What is on
Speaker 1: Ambition podcast on? It's no brand and vision.
Speaker 2: You know, on the very first episode of the show,
Speaker 2: you couldn't name the email address and I had to
Speaker 2: fill it in and I was like, if there's one
Speaker 2: thing we're consistent, it is at brand Ambission podcast on IG.
Speaker 2: But earlier, do you just pull out our Twitter handle
Speaker 2: like for the first time, you know, we knew that
Speaker 2: little nugget was in there.
Speaker 1: Sometimes things just come up. I mean my brain, my
Speaker 1: brain will will tweet a little, just turn on and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, she's here.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So we'll see you guys Friday, and stay tuned
Speaker 2: to IG because we are going to be putting out
Speaker 2: a special invitation to some very lucky Brand Ambision listeners
Speaker 2: who may get to join us on an upcoming episode
Speaker 2: live in our virtual studio audience, So stay tuned if
Speaker 2: you want to enter. Maybe she'll Jotta Lee. Was that
Speaker 2: her name? Jott lese Jattalyse Data stutt Lest, Maybe she'll
Speaker 2: get into the she'll work that budget Easter name, and
Speaker 2: maybe producer Sarah will get her to the VIP access.
Speaker 1: All right, y'all, until next time. See you on Wednesday,
Speaker 1: but then also on Friday for b a q A
Speaker 1: see You