WEBVTT - #102 - LaRussell 0:00:00.040 --> 0:00:03.720 Boulet Cap Podcast. Special guests in here my guy representing 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:09.240 North Valletjo, North Man, The Russell's here. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome man, 0:00:09.880 --> 0:00:11.360 hey man. So give me like a you know, for 0:00:11.400 --> 0:00:13.800 people who don't know man, kind of give everyone a 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:15.680 little kind of like run down on your background. How 0:00:15.680 --> 0:00:17.560 long you've been making music and you know just where 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:21.400 you're from, you know, man, I'm from North Falo, California. 0:00:22.000 --> 0:00:28.120 Uh shit. Background wise, I've probably been doing music since 0:00:28.160 --> 0:00:32.080 I was like, probably started rapping since I was like 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:35.199 seven or eight, just like rapping with my sister, you know, 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:37.960 we're like beasts and instrumentals and shit from Lime Wire 0:00:38.040 --> 0:00:41.120 or shit like that. Then I probably really started taking 0:00:41.120 --> 0:00:44.680 it serious in like twenty eighteen, dropped my first project 0:00:44.720 --> 0:00:46.760 called The Field Effect, and then from there we've just 0:00:46.800 --> 0:00:52.000 been kind of like rolling rolling. So Vallejo, you know, 0:00:52.479 --> 0:00:57.160 is a historical hip hop city. There's been some legends 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.920 out of vallet Ho. Su the Bay Area in general 0:01:01.080 --> 0:01:03.880 is such a like it always referred to the Bay 0:01:03.920 --> 0:01:06.520 as its like own thing. It's like it's like its 0:01:06.560 --> 0:01:10.280 own country within a country, especially within hip hop. Right, 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:12.840 Like there's so much base Like you go to the 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.280 Bay and you'll go to the club and like if 0:01:14.280 --> 0:01:16.640 you have like you're not like up up on what's hot, 0:01:17.800 --> 0:01:19.920 there'd be like songs that aren't even from the Bay 0:01:20.000 --> 0:01:22.200 that are like getting played out there that only worked there, 0:01:22.800 --> 0:01:24.640 you know what I'm saying. But like it's it's it's 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.240 his own world, man like. And you know, obviously the 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.640 bigger artists from the Bay that we know, e forty 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:37.000 mac dre uh you know hers fucking legend already. Yeah, 0:01:37.040 --> 0:01:40.760 shout out to Gez, shout out to Kaylani. Where like, 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:43.800 you know, there's the there's the other other side of 0:01:43.840 --> 0:01:46.480 the coin, which is like Hi Roll and and uh 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:49.440 Dell and all those guys who really had the nineties 0:01:49.480 --> 0:01:52.160 on smash. But like, did you pull from any of 0:01:52.200 --> 0:01:56.000 the more traditional Bay Area music, because I don't get 0:01:56.000 --> 0:01:57.720 that from from when I listen to your ship, I 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:00.200 don't really get a lot of a lot of the 0:02:00.800 --> 0:02:05.760 people would consider Bay Area vibes, right, I mean I 0:02:05.800 --> 0:02:07.880 give a little bit of both, but yeah, I get 0:02:07.880 --> 0:02:09.359 that a lot, Like I get a lot of love 0:02:09.400 --> 0:02:11.600 from the East Coast because you know, like they fuck 0:02:11.680 --> 0:02:15.400 with like rapping and bars. But definitely, I mean I 0:02:15.440 --> 0:02:18.440 came up on forty and dre and short, like my 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.519 mom's a huge too short family, two short set guys 0:02:21.520 --> 0:02:24.160 wrapping freaky tails when I was five. If you feel me, 0:02:24.280 --> 0:02:26.160 shot your mom for playing freaky tails around here with 0:02:26.240 --> 0:02:30.120 your phones man playing freaky tails and cocktails. Yeah you 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:32.040 feel me? But nah, I came up heavy on the 0:02:32.080 --> 0:02:34.560 bait on the base shit, but I also had like 0:02:34.760 --> 0:02:37.200 a mix of everything else, Like my pops played a 0:02:37.200 --> 0:02:40.680 little bit of everything, So I was hearing whole hearing 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.280 nas and pop. You feel me that the kind of 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.760 stuff that, like you gravitated towards more the lyrical shit, 0:02:48.080 --> 0:02:51.520 I think, uh yeah, just naturally, just because like that 0:02:51.720 --> 0:02:55.400 music just resonates a bit more at times, like you 0:02:55.400 --> 0:02:57.840 feel me as a kid when you hear Dear Mama 0:02:57.880 --> 0:03:00.440 and you hear only God can judge me? Like you, 0:03:00.440 --> 0:03:02.640 you don't know what's happening, but you know that something 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:04.960 is different, you know, I mean, like the just the 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:08.800 content matter is a bit different. So it definitely like 0:03:08.840 --> 0:03:13.160 it just hits home a little bit more. You're so 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:17.400 talk about all your videos Good Company GC. Come give 0:03:17.440 --> 0:03:22.080 me give me an education on this on what GC is? 0:03:22.120 --> 0:03:25.480 What does it mean? So GC stands for a good Company, 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:29.399 and basically I started this company probably in about twenty seventeen, 0:03:29.520 --> 0:03:33.880 twenty eighteen, and we're just like a basically like here 0:03:33.919 --> 0:03:36.080 to help artists. You feel me in a bay like 0:03:36.120 --> 0:03:40.720 I didn't really have any backing or support like outside 0:03:40.760 --> 0:03:43.160 when I was growing my shit. I couldn't get people 0:03:43.200 --> 0:03:45.640 to like help me and help me with play all 0:03:45.680 --> 0:03:48.560 this extra shit playlist and just none of that. So 0:03:48.600 --> 0:03:50.560 we start kind of figuring out the game and doing 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:52.800 it ourselves. And I kind of got with my homies 0:03:52.840 --> 0:03:55.520 and we just started building a platform to where we're 0:03:55.560 --> 0:03:58.400 like if an artist does need help and we love 0:03:58.440 --> 0:04:01.280 what they're doing, we're able to syst and accommodate in 0:04:01.360 --> 0:04:06.040 certain areas, whether that be like marketing content as playlists 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:08.560 and shit like that. And it's and it's a it's 0:04:08.560 --> 0:04:10.800 on platform, right, so like you go to the YouTube 0:04:10.840 --> 0:04:13.600 page and there's right. So we have a live performance 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.240 session platform, but we also do just a bunch of 0:04:16.520 --> 0:04:18.760 other content and we kind of started we started a 0:04:18.800 --> 0:04:22.440 live performance platform last December, and it's kind of like 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:25.279 you know, like Colors Genius, iMac shit like that, just 0:04:25.360 --> 0:04:28.040 our own in our home because like, man, we had 0:04:28.080 --> 0:04:30.200 to do we had to go everywhere to do everything. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:32.000 You feel me, it's like every time we had to 0:04:32.000 --> 0:04:35.039 shoot something, we had to go to in La New 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:38.239 York or Frisco. Yeah me, So I was like big 0:04:38.279 --> 0:04:40.840 on bringing at home and doing it. We actually went 0:04:40.880 --> 0:04:43.719 to a Vivo in twenty nineteen and shot some content 0:04:43.760 --> 0:04:46.120 with them, and I was telling my team, I'm like, bro, 0:04:46.240 --> 0:04:48.560 we gotta go home and do this ourselves. Like we 0:04:49.000 --> 0:04:51.080 it shouldn't be we shouldn't have to fly across the 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:53.800 country to do it. So like that was a plan 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:55.560 and we kind of really went home and just made 0:04:55.600 --> 0:04:59.000 that shit shape. Yeah, you were saying, like it's dope 0:04:59.000 --> 0:05:02.840 because obviously Vallejo's not a place that like people who 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:05.919 aren't from the Bay frequent, right, So you're bringing a 0:05:05.960 --> 0:05:09.000 lot of like attention and just trafficked like fro. We 0:05:09.040 --> 0:05:11.719 didn't have some of the biggest execs in the game 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:14.400 coming to Valao, which has never happened. You feel me 0:05:14.440 --> 0:05:17.040 pulling up to the crib, Like there was a point 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:19.840 where I stopped like taking meetings flying. I'm like, I'm 0:05:19.839 --> 0:05:21.360 not going to do no meetings. You got to come 0:05:21.360 --> 0:05:22.839 to the crib if you want to talk to me, 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:26.400 And like just that is so different because we've never 0:05:26.920 --> 0:05:29.360 bro if you're not going to Marine World, you ain't 0:05:29.360 --> 0:05:31.640 coming to Valao. You feel me. So now we have 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:35.120 artists who are like prominent and bubbling and established coming 0:05:35.160 --> 0:05:36.960 to the v to work with us. You feel me, 0:05:37.000 --> 0:05:40.000 and like that's a big stamp for Valao and the culture. 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:43.520 Just something different that we've never had. Like we literally 0:05:43.600 --> 0:05:46.240 have to go everywhere for everything. If you just want 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.080 to eat great food, you damn there, gotta go somewhere, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.640 you feel me. So it's like wait, wait, you're saying 0:05:51.680 --> 0:05:54.160 that the food in Laos not great. No, the food 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:57.760 is smacking, but it's like the options are limited. Like, bro, 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:02.039 we're a city with fucking four or five exits. You 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:05.240 feel me. Like, if you want like all the eyes 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:08.280 like you feel Frisco, you can find everything you want 0:06:08.440 --> 0:06:10.400 everything you feel me kind of yeah, give me that. 0:06:10.560 --> 0:06:12.359 Like you know, obviously, for people who don't know, the 0:06:12.400 --> 0:06:14.520 bear is broken up into a lot of different parts, 0:06:14.600 --> 0:06:18.960 right you know obviously there's Oakland, Uh, there's Risco, Frisco 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.920 and yeah, so like what what do you think makes 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:25.279 because Vallejo, like I said, you know, shout out to 0:06:25.320 --> 0:06:29.120 like Nepha Fario forty Valleo is a huge part as 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:32.840 far as just the historical context of barrier hip hop music. 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:34.720 But what what do you think makes Vallejo different than 0:06:34.720 --> 0:06:37.160 the rest of the Bay. I think it's because we're 0:06:37.200 --> 0:06:41.320 integrated but also separate, you know, like we're very like 0:06:41.440 --> 0:06:44.360 once you cross the bridge, everything is kind of together, 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:49.320 like Emeryville, Oakland, h you got like, hey, we're all 0:06:49.320 --> 0:06:51.320 of that shit. It's like you feel me. It's like 0:06:51.520 --> 0:06:54.360 connected Berkeley, it's all like right there within each other. 0:06:54.440 --> 0:06:58.919 Valeo it's like just it's just us here. You feel me. 0:06:59.240 --> 0:07:01.920 There's no connection. And I think with that we've been 0:07:01.960 --> 0:07:05.839 able to develop everything uniquely because it's like we're not 0:07:05.960 --> 0:07:08.279 tied into nothing. So everything that comes out the v 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:11.480 is fresh, like it's only here. You can only get 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.840 this ship here, the sound and staun everything you feel me, 0:07:14.920 --> 0:07:18.240 the sauce like bro, it's just a different energy. You 0:07:18.240 --> 0:07:20.200 feel me. And people are really probably for about it 0:07:20.240 --> 0:07:23.200 as well, Like you don't meet too many people from Valleo. 0:07:23.320 --> 0:07:25.800 Who isn't like if you meet somebody from val they're 0:07:25.800 --> 0:07:28.240 gonna let you know they from right. No, that's for 0:07:28.280 --> 0:07:31.600 sure that that shit gonna come up period. Yeah. No, 0:07:31.720 --> 0:07:34.480 that's facts or they're like they're they're they're like shot 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:39.280 of my guy Ken. His instagram is Vallejo Camp. Like, bro, 0:07:39.840 --> 0:07:43.880 he obviously his motherfuger in Atlanta and he's talking about Lee, right, Bro, 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:46.679 you feel me because it's really it's it's the water. 0:07:46.840 --> 0:07:50.160 Like we're we're a standalone city. You feel me. Like, 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.960 come from Frisco. You got to cross two bridges to 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:55.000 get in Balayo. You feel me. And we're both in 0:07:55.000 --> 0:07:57.480 the Bay Area, but we're just like a standalone city. 0:07:57.600 --> 0:08:00.680 Has there been any like of the Bay Area ogs 0:08:00.720 --> 0:08:03.800 that have like tapped in with you yet? Yeah, for sure, 0:08:03.960 --> 0:08:08.000 Like Fody, uh, Mandy as cool as fun, he's the best. 0:08:08.240 --> 0:08:10.160 You know. Forty is like one of the few guys 0:08:10.200 --> 0:08:12.000 you'll meet him and you'll be like, this is exactly 0:08:12.040 --> 0:08:15.440 who I hope you would be, man, Bro exactly, Man, 0:08:15.480 --> 0:08:18.440 I have all be for you, Like he's exactly who 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:20.760 you are, especially when he's off that wine or that tequila. 0:08:20.880 --> 0:08:25.520 Boy different nigga, man. But yeah, Fody tapped in and 0:08:25.560 --> 0:08:32.400 then uh he tapped in with me. It's been a 0:08:32.559 --> 0:08:39.240 ski Yeah, Yeah, it's been a few, Bro, it's been 0:08:39.280 --> 0:08:42.040 a few, but yeah, it's just been love. Like everybody 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:44.160 is now starting to kind of show love and not 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:47.400 even just like some of the younger ones pe tap scene, Yeah, 0:08:48.120 --> 0:08:51.199 a lot of love. Uh, did he forty trying to 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:55.800 sign you? Ain't trying to sign you? But was also like, bro, 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:58.360 I'm here whatever you're trying to do, whatever you need, 0:08:58.760 --> 0:09:00.480 But no, he didn't try to sign I always tell 0:09:00.520 --> 0:09:02.360 Forty like when his albums come out, like, Bro, who 0:09:02.360 --> 0:09:04.360 the fuck says no to you? Bro? Because this motherfucker 0:09:04.400 --> 0:09:06.480 will put a triple album out with everybody in the gate. 0:09:07.960 --> 0:09:10.320 I'm like, bro, who says no to E forty? This 0:09:10.400 --> 0:09:14.160 full cause they're gonna say yes, and like you'll see 0:09:14.200 --> 0:09:18.559 the trackers, they'll be like, yep, everyone say yes exactly exactly. 0:09:18.640 --> 0:09:21.800 I Mean he's a cultural for sure and one of 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:29.800 the most underrated mcs ever. Facts Facts hippopot shout out 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:33.400 to forty man. So with what you're doing, it's like 0:09:33.600 --> 0:09:37.880 very very Uh, it's unconventional as far as like I 0:09:37.920 --> 0:09:40.840 love your approach with like the music or the freestyles 0:09:40.840 --> 0:09:43.960 you drop, they could be found on Spotify, they can 0:09:44.000 --> 0:09:46.840 be found everywhere. You do your freestyles over original music. 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.000 It's just it's just it. I feel like you're you're, you're, 0:09:50.040 --> 0:09:54.760 you're kind of approaching the rap shit. You know, everyone 0:09:54.800 --> 0:09:57.480 always talks about content first, content first, content first, but 0:09:57.559 --> 0:10:00.319 yet when they drop content, they don't really all truly 0:10:00.440 --> 0:10:03.040 monetize it the way they should be, right, you know 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:06.560 what I mean? Like everybody can do a freestyle over 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:09.120 who shot you by biggie, but you can't get paid 0:10:09.160 --> 0:10:10.600 off it, you know what I'm saying, If they you 0:10:10.640 --> 0:10:14.760 don't own it. What was your motivation to kind of 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.760 approaching some of the content you do in that way 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:20.800 where you can really just kind of if you have 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.880 a moment where Charlemagne posts your freestyle, people can go 0:10:23.960 --> 0:10:26.520 listen to it on Spotify, let it on YouTube. I mean, 0:10:26.600 --> 0:10:28.960 that was my thing, and really it was like a 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:30.960 way for me to be able to like pay all 0:10:30.960 --> 0:10:34.079 my niggas and like just everybody who helps me and contributes, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:37.920 you feel me, Like everything we work on I'm just like, bro, 0:10:38.040 --> 0:10:41.679 we need it accessible everywhere, so it's like wherever that 0:10:41.760 --> 0:10:43.880 revenue comes from, we could be able to split it 0:10:43.960 --> 0:10:45.760 and break it down, you feel me. And that was 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.840 like a big thing to me, Like I had a 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:51.480 crazy moment when I've just been figuring out the game 0:10:51.559 --> 0:10:53.839 the past two years, and when I was looking and 0:10:53.880 --> 0:10:56.760 I'm like, damn, bro, people are working on music videos. 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:58.560 People are shooting this kind of people are doing this 0:10:58.640 --> 0:11:02.240 and it's going viral and they don't own it, and 0:11:02.320 --> 0:11:04.360 they're not getting paid and the people who worked on 0:11:04.400 --> 0:11:06.559 it aren't getting paid and the only person who's getting 0:11:06.600 --> 0:11:09.720 paid is whoever monetized it on YouTube, you know, Like, 0:11:10.080 --> 0:11:12.080 and that shit was just nuts to me. And I 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:14.280 had a big moment, like I had to go redo 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.880 a lot of stuff, like just making sure everybody is 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:20.720 good and straight. You feel me? So when you say 0:11:21.080 --> 0:11:23.280 taking care of every so like do you give your 0:11:23.360 --> 0:11:27.240 cameraman a split on the drun? I give everybody. If 0:11:27.280 --> 0:11:30.160 you hold a fucking light in my video, you're going 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:34.400 to get a percentage if you anything, you feel me, Like, 0:11:34.480 --> 0:11:37.920 if you contributed to something we've created or done, you're 0:11:37.960 --> 0:11:40.680 gonna get all the live sessions were doing good company. 0:11:40.720 --> 0:11:43.520 We break down all that bread. If you engineer record, 0:11:43.600 --> 0:11:46.920 you edit the artist, the producer, like if you find 0:11:46.920 --> 0:11:49.600 the projection that we use, if you send me an artist, 0:11:49.679 --> 0:11:51.600 like I had a lot of homies who sent me 0:11:51.800 --> 0:11:54.200 artists like like, hey, this is dope. If we end 0:11:54.280 --> 0:11:56.480 up bringing them on, I'm giving you a percentage. You 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.880 feel me it wouldn't have happened without you. And it's 0:11:58.960 --> 0:12:02.200 like this game, for some reason doesn't work like that. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:03.960 I got a boy who works on a lot of 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:06.640 big music videos. We were talking and I'm like, hey, 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.000 how much? What do you own any of that? And 0:12:09.000 --> 0:12:10.880 he's like nah, And I'm like, Bro, you've done a 0:12:10.960 --> 0:12:13.880 hundred of them. What do you mean? Like some of 0:12:14.000 --> 0:12:17.400 these have millions of views and the artists blew up 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:20.280 off the video. Why don't you own any of it? 0:12:20.760 --> 0:12:23.240 That shit don't make no sense even like engineers, and 0:12:23.280 --> 0:12:25.920 like people who like Bro, they I think engineer is 0:12:25.920 --> 0:12:30.200 probably the most underappreciated person in the musical process. Bro yes, 0:12:30.400 --> 0:12:33.720 because and it's it sucks because his game has been 0:12:33.760 --> 0:12:37.520 built around like a Paola system or just a I 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:41.400 Gotta Eat system. That it is like niggas don't want 0:12:41.400 --> 0:12:43.640 to percent it say rather you just pay them. But 0:12:43.679 --> 0:12:45.959 it's like I don't like I don't charge for anything 0:12:46.000 --> 0:12:48.640 I do, like any thing. You see what I do 0:12:48.720 --> 0:12:51.640 with artists. If I help write put out a record, market, 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:53.920 any I put my bread up behind artists, I don't 0:12:54.000 --> 0:12:56.040 charge for nothing. I just want a percent for what 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.880 I work for. I feel like there's no price worth 0:12:58.960 --> 0:13:02.320 what I'm doing a feature. You hit me for a feature, 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:04.320 like everyone's how much you trying for a feature? It's 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:05.880 like I don't If I don't love it, I'm just 0:13:05.920 --> 0:13:08.520 not gonna do it. Yeah, you feel me. And this 0:13:08.600 --> 0:13:11.520 game has been twisted like nobody's operating off that everybody 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:13.720 want their bread and it's like that shit cool, But 0:13:14.200 --> 0:13:17.080 like I'm really trying to like build something long term, 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.840 Like I'd be damned if something make ten million dollars 0:13:19.840 --> 0:13:23.520 and I helped create it and you ain't getting nothing. Yeah, nothing, 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:26.640 not even five versus you know, you're right, especially with 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.840 like these young directors, right, they'll shoot a video just 0:13:29.840 --> 0:13:32.640 for free most of the time, and it goes like 0:13:33.040 --> 0:13:36.440 the artist blows up and the only nigga who ain't 0:13:36.440 --> 0:13:42.560 got paid is the person who made it. Yeah, I 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:47.880 need a nap. That's a refreshing approach to the game. Man. 0:13:49.120 --> 0:13:52.880 So right now, obviously you're you know, you've had a 0:13:52.920 --> 0:13:56.360 lot of dope moments over the last few months. I 0:13:56.400 --> 0:13:59.800 know Charlomagne is a big fan of yours, and he 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.320 and co signed a lot of new artists. Man shout 0:14:02.320 --> 0:14:07.320 out Charlottemagne. Man, Charlemagne shows crazy love like organic natural facts. 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.400 He's one of the most organic naturally just amazing dudes. 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:14.000 I know. Man, Charlamagne shows so much love that niggas 0:14:14.000 --> 0:14:16.120 think that I'm paying him the post now. They think 0:14:16.120 --> 0:14:20.520 he's doing promo label. So that's so crazy, that's just insane, 0:14:20.720 --> 0:14:22.960 you know. But he's like he's someone who like really 0:14:23.000 --> 0:14:25.920 supports it, gets behind it, like where did where do 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.200 you where did he uh, like what do you know 0:14:28.280 --> 0:14:30.240 kind of the origin of like how he discovered your ship? 0:14:30.520 --> 0:14:33.280 O Vain so shout out to Hovain. Hobin is a 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.320 great guy. Man. Hoven is the guy. Man. Yeah, that's 0:14:37.080 --> 0:14:41.320 he's making some questionable fashion decisions sometimes, but well you know, listen, 0:14:41.360 --> 0:14:44.120 Hoven's a bigger guy, so he you know, there's certain 0:14:44.120 --> 0:14:47.600 shit that probably ain't made in his size. East Coach niggas, Man, 0:14:47.880 --> 0:14:50.480 it's just different out there. Man shout out trigg One. 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:53.920 Nigga had on ugs with the knitted top. Wait Coven 0:14:54.000 --> 0:14:58.120 had it ugs on Wait wait wait, wait, no no no, 0:14:58.880 --> 0:15:01.960 I will roast that now. But you feel me like 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:05.280 doing don't let me find out Hovein got huggs, bro, 0:15:05.360 --> 0:15:09.000 because I will never let that probably got bro, I 0:15:09.120 --> 0:15:16.200 never let that ship ever, ever ever. Charlemagne and Charlamagne 0:15:16.240 --> 0:15:18.280 fucked with it heavy, like Havein has been a big 0:15:18.320 --> 0:15:20.320 part in just like a lot of what's been happening. 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.240 Haven's great man. Are you working with Hovain? Yeah, Covain's 0:15:24.240 --> 0:15:27.480 the best. I've been knowing Hovein since uh early Troy 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.680 Ave days early or I was one of the bigger 0:15:31.880 --> 0:15:34.200 uh so I was probably the biggest supporter of triave 0:15:34.280 --> 0:15:38.640 low key early on man and love. Yeah, and then 0:15:38.720 --> 0:15:40.800 things got weird, and I really, you know, I didn't 0:15:40.800 --> 0:15:44.480 really agree with the way I know Hoveain, and I 0:15:44.520 --> 0:15:46.080 know he's a great guy, you know what I'm saying. 0:15:46.080 --> 0:15:49.200 So when all that shit kind of transpired, I'm like, Bro, 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:53.840 like I've seen this guy hold you down. Bro, Havein's 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:55.600 good people though. That's dope, man, Yeah, I mean you 0:15:55.680 --> 0:15:58.240 got a great guy behind you then, yeah, this great 0:15:58.280 --> 0:16:01.040 guy And then also kind of like he's in New 0:16:01.120 --> 0:16:04.840 York and you're in the Bays, Cannibal, both sides of 0:16:04.880 --> 0:16:07.640 the country online right were touching both hands. And that's 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.800 the thing, like I feel like as a Bay Area artists, 0:16:10.880 --> 0:16:13.840 like we don't often get that East Coast support and 0:16:13.920 --> 0:16:16.280 a lot of my a lot of people who championed me, 0:16:16.440 --> 0:16:19.520 like Early Wallow, Russ Meek Meal, all of them. You 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:21.600 feel me. They're on the East Coast, you feel me. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.520 So it's like dope to have both sides kind of 0:16:24.520 --> 0:16:27.400 supporting and getting behind them. Wallow so far man I 0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:33.360 Love is my favorite podcast Wallowed someone Wallow supported like 0:16:33.600 --> 0:16:36.080 very early and like pushing the line. And I end 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.200 up giving him a percent of some ship because it 0:16:38.280 --> 0:16:40.360 really changed my life. You feel me and helped me, 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.920 and it's like things like that, but you give okay, okay, 0:16:43.920 --> 0:16:46.720 so give me. So you gave Wallow percentage of what 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:51.680 a record? Yeah, a record exactly. I gave him a 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.640 percentage of a record because he like, really Wallow is 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:58.840 one of the reasons, like some shit really blew, like 0:16:58.920 --> 0:17:01.440 everything changed. I was getting a call from every fucking 0:17:01.520 --> 0:17:04.560 label in the world that morning, and I was like, bro, like, 0:17:04.640 --> 0:17:07.000 you deserve a percent of you feel me. If I 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:08.879 was with a label, they would be taking hella, so 0:17:09.000 --> 0:17:11.080 you feel me like I had to. It was an 0:17:11.560 --> 0:17:15.240 easy call for me being able to break down a 0:17:15.320 --> 0:17:17.679 part induce splitz. 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Yeah, but I've had 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:08.320 some big another big one that was like dope to me. 0:19:08.600 --> 0:19:12.240 Mark Pitts had reached out. Mark Pitts is legend, legend, 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:16.080 biggie of course bro. So that was that was the 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.640 one that was like, damn, bro, this is insane. It's 0:19:18.680 --> 0:19:21.199 really reaching you feel me, Like when you say the 0:19:21.200 --> 0:19:23.439 other one you couldn't you can't talk about yet. Is 0:19:23.440 --> 0:19:27.760 it because there's a collab coming or it's some it's 0:19:27.760 --> 0:19:32.320 some crazy shitting the works? How crazy as crazy as like, 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:34.920 give me, give me an idea. Man, I'm gonna just 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:38.879 see if I can guess. Even if you guess, you 0:19:38.920 --> 0:19:41.359 won't know. You feel me just crazy. So you and 0:19:41.440 --> 0:19:46.399 Kendrick working together there it is Kendrick Lamar. Right, you 0:19:46.440 --> 0:19:48.359 guys got a record on the l A Russell and 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:53.600 Kendrick Lamore all the way, all the way. You heard 0:19:53.640 --> 0:19:59.679 it here you heard that's it's funny too because I 0:19:59.680 --> 0:20:02.440 saw you he posted Joe button thing and I thought 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:06.199 that was so funny. Right, it was like obviously he 0:20:06.280 --> 0:20:09.000 was talking about you. Right, Did you have any did 0:20:09.080 --> 0:20:11.479 Joe Budden reach out to you at all? No, he didn't, 0:20:11.600 --> 0:20:14.280 He didn't reach out. I actually have a fan of 0:20:14.359 --> 0:20:16.720 mine hit me and was like, bro, I think he's 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:18.920 talking about He's got to be talking about, which is dope, 0:20:18.960 --> 0:20:21.280 Like you feel me Like a lot of moments I 0:20:21.320 --> 0:20:23.560 miss because I don't really be watching like pop, bro, 0:20:23.600 --> 0:20:27.000 I'll be like working, like putting it together. You'd be busy, yeah, 0:20:27.160 --> 0:20:29.880 like they sent me and was like he's definitely talking 0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:31.920 about you, so I've seen it. I'm like, man, that's dope. 0:20:31.920 --> 0:20:34.480 You feel me. I love Joe Budden, but just showing 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.320 the love that he did show in a very Joe 0:20:36.359 --> 0:20:38.760 Button way. You feel me in a very Joe butddon way. 0:20:38.880 --> 0:20:41.400 That a very Joe Button way you feel me. But 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:43.760 I know for him that that took a lot. You 0:20:43.800 --> 0:20:46.680