Speaker 1: Boulet Cap Podcast. Special guests in here my guy representing
Speaker 1: North Valletjo, North Man, The Russell's here. Welcome, Welcome, Welcome man,
Speaker 1: hey man. So give me like a you know, for
Speaker 1: people who don't know man, kind of give everyone a
Speaker 1: little kind of like run down on your background. How
Speaker 1: long you've been making music and you know just where
Speaker 1: you're from, you know, man, I'm from North Falo, California.
Speaker 1: Uh shit. Background wise, I've probably been doing music since
Speaker 1: I was like, probably started rapping since I was like
Speaker 1: seven or eight, just like rapping with my sister, you know,
Speaker 1: we're like beasts and instrumentals and shit from Lime Wire
Speaker 1: or shit like that. Then I probably really started taking
Speaker 1: it serious in like twenty eighteen, dropped my first project
Speaker 1: called The Field Effect, and then from there we've just
Speaker 1: been kind of like rolling rolling. So Vallejo, you know,
Speaker 1: is a historical hip hop city. There's been some legends
Speaker 1: out of vallet Ho. Su the Bay Area in general
Speaker 1: is such a like it always referred to the Bay
Speaker 1: as its like own thing. It's like it's like its
Speaker 1: own country within a country, especially within hip hop. Right,
Speaker 1: Like there's so much base Like you go to the
Speaker 1: Bay and you'll go to the club and like if
Speaker 1: you have like you're not like up up on what's hot,
Speaker 1: there'd be like songs that aren't even from the Bay
Speaker 1: that are like getting played out there that only worked there,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But like it's it's it's
Speaker 1: his own world, man like. And you know, obviously the
Speaker 1: bigger artists from the Bay that we know, e forty
Speaker 1: mac dre uh you know hers fucking legend already. Yeah,
Speaker 1: shout out to Gez, shout out to Kaylani. Where like,
Speaker 1: you know, there's the there's the other other side of
Speaker 1: the coin, which is like Hi Roll and and uh
Speaker 1: Dell and all those guys who really had the nineties
Speaker 1: on smash. But like, did you pull from any of
Speaker 1: the more traditional Bay Area music, because I don't get
Speaker 1: that from from when I listen to your ship, I
Speaker 1: don't really get a lot of a lot of the
Speaker 1: people would consider Bay Area vibes, right, I mean I
Speaker 1: give a little bit of both, but yeah, I get
Speaker 1: that a lot, Like I get a lot of love
Speaker 1: from the East Coast because you know, like they fuck
Speaker 1: with like rapping and bars. But definitely, I mean I
Speaker 1: came up on forty and dre and short, like my
Speaker 1: mom's a huge too short family, two short set guys
Speaker 1: wrapping freaky tails when I was five. If you feel me,
Speaker 1: shot your mom for playing freaky tails around here with
Speaker 1: your phones man playing freaky tails and cocktails. Yeah you
Speaker 1: feel me? But nah, I came up heavy on the
Speaker 1: bait on the base shit, but I also had like
Speaker 1: a mix of everything else, Like my pops played a
Speaker 1: little bit of everything, So I was hearing whole hearing
Speaker 1: nas and pop. You feel me that the kind of
Speaker 1: stuff that, like you gravitated towards more the lyrical shit,
Speaker 1: I think, uh yeah, just naturally, just because like that
Speaker 1: music just resonates a bit more at times, like you
Speaker 1: feel me as a kid when you hear Dear Mama
Speaker 1: and you hear only God can judge me? Like you,
Speaker 1: you don't know what's happening, but you know that something
Speaker 1: is different, you know, I mean, like the just the
Speaker 1: content matter is a bit different. So it definitely like
Speaker 1: it just hits home a little bit more. You're so
Speaker 1: talk about all your videos Good Company GC. Come give
Speaker 1: me give me an education on this on what GC is?
Speaker 1: What does it mean? So GC stands for a good Company,
Speaker 1: and basically I started this company probably in about twenty seventeen,
Speaker 1: twenty eighteen, and we're just like a basically like here
Speaker 1: to help artists. You feel me in a bay like
Speaker 1: I didn't really have any backing or support like outside
Speaker 1: when I was growing my shit. I couldn't get people
Speaker 1: to like help me and help me with play all
Speaker 1: this extra shit playlist and just none of that. So
Speaker 1: we start kind of figuring out the game and doing
Speaker 1: it ourselves. And I kind of got with my homies
Speaker 1: and we just started building a platform to where we're
Speaker 1: like if an artist does need help and we love
Speaker 1: what they're doing, we're able to syst and accommodate in
Speaker 1: certain areas, whether that be like marketing content as playlists
Speaker 1: and shit like that. And it's and it's a it's
Speaker 1: on platform, right, so like you go to the YouTube
Speaker 1: page and there's right. So we have a live performance
Speaker 1: session platform, but we also do just a bunch of
Speaker 1: other content and we kind of started we started a
Speaker 1: live performance platform last December, and it's kind of like
Speaker 1: you know, like Colors Genius, iMac shit like that, just
Speaker 1: our own in our home because like, man, we had
Speaker 1: to do we had to go everywhere to do everything.
Speaker 1: You feel me, it's like every time we had to
Speaker 1: shoot something, we had to go to in La New
Speaker 1: York or Frisco. Yeah me, So I was like big
Speaker 1: on bringing at home and doing it. We actually went
Speaker 1: to a Vivo in twenty nineteen and shot some content
Speaker 1: with them, and I was telling my team, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: we gotta go home and do this ourselves. Like we
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be we shouldn't have to fly across the
Speaker 1: country to do it. So like that was a plan
Speaker 1: and we kind of really went home and just made
Speaker 1: that shit shape. Yeah, you were saying, like it's dope
Speaker 1: because obviously Vallejo's not a place that like people who
Speaker 1: aren't from the Bay frequent, right, So you're bringing a
Speaker 1: lot of like attention and just trafficked like fro. We
Speaker 1: didn't have some of the biggest execs in the game
Speaker 1: coming to Valao, which has never happened. You feel me
Speaker 1: pulling up to the crib, Like there was a point
Speaker 1: where I stopped like taking meetings flying. I'm like, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to do no meetings. You got to come
Speaker 1: to the crib if you want to talk to me,
Speaker 1: And like just that is so different because we've never
Speaker 1: bro if you're not going to Marine World, you ain't
Speaker 1: coming to Valao. You feel me. So now we have
Speaker 1: artists who are like prominent and bubbling and established coming
Speaker 1: to the v to work with us. You feel me,
Speaker 1: and like that's a big stamp for Valao and the culture.
Speaker 1: Just something different that we've never had. Like we literally
Speaker 1: have to go everywhere for everything. If you just want
Speaker 1: to eat great food, you damn there, gotta go somewhere,
Speaker 1: you feel me. So it's like wait, wait, you're saying
Speaker 1: that the food in Laos not great. No, the food
Speaker 1: is smacking, but it's like the options are limited. Like, bro,
Speaker 1: we're a city with fucking four or five exits. You
Speaker 1: feel me. Like, if you want like all the eyes
Speaker 1: like you feel Frisco, you can find everything you want
Speaker 1: everything you feel me kind of yeah, give me that.
Speaker 1: Like you know, obviously, for people who don't know, the
Speaker 1: bear is broken up into a lot of different parts,
Speaker 1: right you know obviously there's Oakland, Uh, there's Risco, Frisco
Speaker 1: and yeah, so like what what do you think makes
Speaker 1: because Vallejo, like I said, you know, shout out to
Speaker 1: like Nepha Fario forty Valleo is a huge part as
Speaker 1: far as just the historical context of barrier hip hop music.
Speaker 1: But what what do you think makes Vallejo different than
Speaker 1: the rest of the Bay. I think it's because we're
Speaker 1: integrated but also separate, you know, like we're very like
Speaker 1: once you cross the bridge, everything is kind of together,
Speaker 1: like Emeryville, Oakland, h you got like, hey, we're all
Speaker 1: of that shit. It's like you feel me. It's like
Speaker 1: connected Berkeley, it's all like right there within each other.
Speaker 1: Valeo it's like just it's just us here. You feel me.
Speaker 1: There's no connection. And I think with that we've been
Speaker 1: able to develop everything uniquely because it's like we're not
Speaker 1: tied into nothing. So everything that comes out the v
Speaker 1: is fresh, like it's only here. You can only get
Speaker 1: this ship here, the sound and staun everything you feel me,
Speaker 1: the sauce like bro, it's just a different energy. You
Speaker 1: feel me. And people are really probably for about it
Speaker 1: as well, Like you don't meet too many people from Valleo.
Speaker 1: Who isn't like if you meet somebody from val they're
Speaker 1: gonna let you know they from right. No, that's for
Speaker 1: sure that that shit gonna come up period. Yeah. No,
Speaker 1: that's facts or they're like they're they're they're like shot
Speaker 1: of my guy Ken. His instagram is Vallejo Camp. Like, bro,
Speaker 1: he obviously his motherfuger in Atlanta and he's talking about Lee, right, Bro,
Speaker 1: you feel me because it's really it's it's the water.
Speaker 1: Like we're we're a standalone city. You feel me. Like,
Speaker 1: come from Frisco. You got to cross two bridges to
Speaker 1: get in Balayo. You feel me. And we're both in
Speaker 1: the Bay Area, but we're just like a standalone city.
Speaker 1: Has there been any like of the Bay Area ogs
Speaker 1: that have like tapped in with you yet? Yeah, for sure,
Speaker 1: Like Fody, uh, Mandy as cool as fun, he's the best.
Speaker 1: You know. Forty is like one of the few guys
Speaker 1: you'll meet him and you'll be like, this is exactly
Speaker 1: who I hope you would be, man, Bro exactly, Man,
Speaker 1: I have all be for you, Like he's exactly who
Speaker 1: you are, especially when he's off that wine or that tequila.
Speaker 1: Boy different nigga, man. But yeah, Fody tapped in and
Speaker 1: then uh he tapped in with me. It's been a
Speaker 1: ski Yeah, Yeah, it's been a few, Bro, it's been
Speaker 1: a few, but yeah, it's just been love. Like everybody
Speaker 1: is now starting to kind of show love and not
Speaker 1: even just like some of the younger ones pe tap scene, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a lot of love. Uh, did he forty trying to
Speaker 1: sign you? Ain't trying to sign you? But was also like, bro,
Speaker 1: I'm here whatever you're trying to do, whatever you need,
Speaker 1: But no, he didn't try to sign I always tell
Speaker 1: Forty like when his albums come out, like, Bro, who
Speaker 1: the fuck says no to you? Bro? Because this motherfucker
Speaker 1: will put a triple album out with everybody in the gate.
Speaker 1: I'm like, bro, who says no to E forty? This
Speaker 1: full cause they're gonna say yes, and like you'll see
Speaker 1: the trackers, they'll be like, yep, everyone say yes exactly exactly.
Speaker 1: I Mean he's a cultural for sure and one of
Speaker 1: the most underrated mcs ever. Facts Facts hippopot shout out
Speaker 1: to forty man. So with what you're doing, it's like
Speaker 1: very very Uh, it's unconventional as far as like I
Speaker 1: love your approach with like the music or the freestyles
Speaker 1: you drop, they could be found on Spotify, they can
Speaker 1: be found everywhere. You do your freestyles over original music.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just it. I feel like you're you're, you're,
Speaker 1: you're kind of approaching the rap shit. You know, everyone
Speaker 1: always talks about content first, content first, content first, but
Speaker 1: yet when they drop content, they don't really all truly
Speaker 1: monetize it the way they should be, right, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like everybody can do a freestyle over
Speaker 1: who shot you by biggie, but you can't get paid
Speaker 1: off it, you know what I'm saying, If they you
Speaker 1: don't own it. What was your motivation to kind of
Speaker 1: approaching some of the content you do in that way
Speaker 1: where you can really just kind of if you have
Speaker 1: a moment where Charlemagne posts your freestyle, people can go
Speaker 1: listen to it on Spotify, let it on YouTube. I mean,
Speaker 1: that was my thing, and really it was like a
Speaker 1: way for me to be able to like pay all
Speaker 1: my niggas and like just everybody who helps me and contributes,
Speaker 1: you feel me, Like everything we work on I'm just like, bro,
Speaker 1: we need it accessible everywhere, so it's like wherever that
Speaker 1: revenue comes from, we could be able to split it
Speaker 1: and break it down, you feel me. And that was
Speaker 1: like a big thing to me, Like I had a
Speaker 1: crazy moment when I've just been figuring out the game
Speaker 1: the past two years, and when I was looking and
Speaker 1: I'm like, damn, bro, people are working on music videos.
Speaker 1: People are shooting this kind of people are doing this
Speaker 1: and it's going viral and they don't own it, and
Speaker 1: they're not getting paid and the people who worked on
Speaker 1: it aren't getting paid and the only person who's getting
Speaker 1: paid is whoever monetized it on YouTube, you know, Like,
Speaker 1: and that shit was just nuts to me. And I
Speaker 1: had a big moment, like I had to go redo
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, like just making sure everybody is
Speaker 1: good and straight. You feel me? So when you say
Speaker 1: taking care of every so like do you give your
Speaker 1: cameraman a split on the drun? I give everybody. If
Speaker 1: you hold a fucking light in my video, you're going
Speaker 1: to get a percentage if you anything, you feel me, Like,
Speaker 1: if you contributed to something we've created or done, you're
Speaker 1: gonna get all the live sessions were doing good company.
Speaker 1: We break down all that bread. If you engineer record,
Speaker 1: you edit the artist, the producer, like if you find
Speaker 1: the projection that we use, if you send me an artist,
Speaker 1: like I had a lot of homies who sent me
Speaker 1: artists like like, hey, this is dope. If we end
Speaker 1: up bringing them on, I'm giving you a percentage. You
Speaker 1: feel me it wouldn't have happened without you. And it's
Speaker 1: like this game, for some reason doesn't work like that.
Speaker 1: I got a boy who works on a lot of
Speaker 1: big music videos. We were talking and I'm like, hey,
Speaker 1: how much? What do you own any of that? And
Speaker 1: he's like nah, And I'm like, Bro, you've done a
Speaker 1: hundred of them. What do you mean? Like some of
Speaker 1: these have millions of views and the artists blew up
Speaker 1: off the video. Why don't you own any of it?
Speaker 1: That shit don't make no sense even like engineers, and
Speaker 1: like people who like Bro, they I think engineer is
Speaker 1: probably the most underappreciated person in the musical process. Bro yes,
Speaker 1: because and it's it sucks because his game has been
Speaker 1: built around like a Paola system or just a I
Speaker 1: Gotta Eat system. That it is like niggas don't want
Speaker 1: to percent it say rather you just pay them. But
Speaker 1: it's like I don't like I don't charge for anything
Speaker 1: I do, like any thing. You see what I do
Speaker 1: with artists. If I help write put out a record, market,
Speaker 1: any I put my bread up behind artists, I don't
Speaker 1: charge for nothing. I just want a percent for what
Speaker 1: I work for. I feel like there's no price worth
Speaker 1: what I'm doing a feature. You hit me for a feature,
Speaker 1: like everyone's how much you trying for a feature? It's
Speaker 1: like I don't If I don't love it, I'm just
Speaker 1: not gonna do it. Yeah, you feel me. And this
Speaker 1: game has been twisted like nobody's operating off that everybody
Speaker 1: want their bread and it's like that shit cool, But
Speaker 1: like I'm really trying to like build something long term,
Speaker 1: Like I'd be damned if something make ten million dollars
Speaker 1: and I helped create it and you ain't getting nothing. Yeah, nothing,
Speaker 1: not even five versus you know, you're right, especially with
Speaker 1: like these young directors, right, they'll shoot a video just
Speaker 1: for free most of the time, and it goes like
Speaker 1: the artist blows up and the only nigga who ain't
Speaker 1: got paid is the person who made it. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: need a nap. That's a refreshing approach to the game. Man.
Speaker 1: So right now, obviously you're you know, you've had a
Speaker 1: lot of dope moments over the last few months. I
Speaker 1: know Charlomagne is a big fan of yours, and he
Speaker 1: and co signed a lot of new artists. Man shout
Speaker 1: out Charlottemagne. Man, Charlemagne shows crazy love like organic natural facts.
Speaker 1: He's one of the most organic naturally just amazing dudes.
Speaker 1: I know. Man, Charlamagne shows so much love that niggas
Speaker 1: think that I'm paying him the post now. They think
Speaker 1: he's doing promo label. So that's so crazy, that's just insane,
Speaker 1: you know. But he's like he's someone who like really
Speaker 1: supports it, gets behind it, like where did where do
Speaker 1: you where did he uh, like what do you know
Speaker 1: kind of the origin of like how he discovered your ship?
Speaker 1: O Vain so shout out to Hovain. Hobin is a
Speaker 1: great guy. Man. Hoven is the guy. Man. Yeah, that's
Speaker 1: he's making some questionable fashion decisions sometimes, but well you know, listen,
Speaker 1: Hoven's a bigger guy, so he you know, there's certain
Speaker 1: shit that probably ain't made in his size. East Coach niggas, Man,
Speaker 1: it's just different out there. Man shout out trigg One.
Speaker 1: Nigga had on ugs with the knitted top. Wait Coven
Speaker 1: had it ugs on Wait wait wait, wait, no no no,
Speaker 1: I will roast that now. But you feel me like
Speaker 1: doing don't let me find out Hovein got huggs, bro,
Speaker 1: because I will never let that probably got bro, I
Speaker 1: never let that ship ever, ever ever. Charlemagne and Charlamagne
Speaker 1: fucked with it heavy, like Havein has been a big
Speaker 1: part in just like a lot of what's been happening.
Speaker 1: Haven's great man. Are you working with Hovain? Yeah, Covain's
Speaker 1: the best. I've been knowing Hovein since uh early Troy
Speaker 1: Ave days early or I was one of the bigger
Speaker 1: uh so I was probably the biggest supporter of triave
Speaker 1: low key early on man and love. Yeah, and then
Speaker 1: things got weird, and I really, you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: really agree with the way I know Hoveain, and I
Speaker 1: know he's a great guy, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So when all that shit kind of transpired, I'm like, Bro,
Speaker 1: like I've seen this guy hold you down. Bro, Havein's
Speaker 1: good people though. That's dope, man, Yeah, I mean you
Speaker 1: got a great guy behind you then, yeah, this great
Speaker 1: guy And then also kind of like he's in New
Speaker 1: York and you're in the Bays, Cannibal, both sides of
Speaker 1: the country online right were touching both hands. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing, like I feel like as a Bay Area artists,
Speaker 1: like we don't often get that East Coast support and
Speaker 1: a lot of my a lot of people who championed me,
Speaker 1: like Early Wallow, Russ Meek Meal, all of them. You
Speaker 1: feel me. They're on the East Coast, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So it's like dope to have both sides kind of
Speaker 1: supporting and getting behind them. Wallow so far man I
Speaker 1: Love is my favorite podcast Wallowed someone Wallow supported like
Speaker 1: very early and like pushing the line. And I end
Speaker 1: up giving him a percent of some ship because it
Speaker 1: really changed my life. You feel me and helped me,
Speaker 1: and it's like things like that, but you give okay, okay,
Speaker 1: so give me. So you gave Wallow percentage of what
Speaker 1: a record? Yeah, a record exactly. I gave him a
Speaker 1: percentage of a record because he like, really Wallow is
Speaker 1: one of the reasons, like some shit really blew, like
Speaker 1: everything changed. I was getting a call from every fucking
Speaker 1: label in the world that morning, and I was like, bro, like,
Speaker 1: you deserve a percent of you feel me. If I
Speaker 1: was with a label, they would be taking hella, so
Speaker 1: you feel me like I had to. It was an
Speaker 1: easy call for me being able to break down a
Speaker 1: part induce splitz. It's like it allows me to do
Speaker 1: shit like that when niggas really come in and help
Speaker 1: me to just bro You feel me like that's something
Speaker 1: long term. In fucking ten years, I feel like I'll
Speaker 1: be one of the biggest artists in the world. That
Speaker 1: percent is gonna be a real stock. Do you feel me? Right? Hey?
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Speaker 1: What is a moment that you've had over the last
Speaker 1: like five or six months where you kind of opened
Speaker 1: your phone and saw and were like, oh what, this
Speaker 1: is crazy, man, Like this person reposted my shit or
Speaker 1: this person like my shit or this is crazy. Like
Speaker 1: you know, I think we all kind of get that then,
Speaker 1: know if I can say it. Yeah, but I've had
Speaker 1: some big another big one that was like dope to me.
Speaker 1: Mark Pitts had reached out. Mark Pitts is legend, legend,
Speaker 1: biggie of course bro. So that was that was the
Speaker 1: one that was like, damn, bro, this is insane. It's
Speaker 1: really reaching you feel me, Like when you say the
Speaker 1: other one you couldn't you can't talk about yet. Is
Speaker 1: it because there's a collab coming or it's some it's
Speaker 1: some crazy shitting the works? How crazy as crazy as like,
Speaker 1: give me, give me an idea. Man, I'm gonna just
Speaker 1: see if I can guess. Even if you guess, you
Speaker 1: won't know. You feel me just crazy. So you and
Speaker 1: Kendrick working together there it is Kendrick Lamar. Right, you
Speaker 1: guys got a record on the l A Russell and
Speaker 1: Kendrick Lamore all the way, all the way. You heard
Speaker 1: it here you heard that's it's funny too because I
Speaker 1: saw you he posted Joe button thing and I thought
Speaker 1: that was so funny. Right, it was like obviously he
Speaker 1: was talking about you. Right, Did you have any did
Speaker 1: Joe Budden reach out to you at all? No, he didn't,
Speaker 1: He didn't reach out. I actually have a fan of
Speaker 1: mine hit me and was like, bro, I think he's
Speaker 1: talking about He's got to be talking about, which is dope,
Speaker 1: Like you feel me Like a lot of moments I
Speaker 1: miss because I don't really be watching like pop, bro,
Speaker 1: I'll be like working, like putting it together. You'd be busy, yeah,
Speaker 1: like they sent me and was like he's definitely talking
Speaker 1: about you, so I've seen it. I'm like, man, that's dope.
Speaker 1: You feel me. I love Joe Budden, but just showing
Speaker 1: the love that he did show in a very Joe
Speaker 1: Button way. You feel me in a very Joe butddon way.
Speaker 1: That a very Joe Button way you feel me. But
Speaker 1: I know for him that that took a lot. You
Speaker 1: feel me, So it's like that shit cool. And he's
Speaker 1: not giving that coach sign to a lot of people,
Speaker 1: you feel me? Who has been the I'm assuming what
Speaker 1: we were talking off the camera. You've had a lot
Speaker 1: of people trying to sign you obviously, right has been
Speaker 1: like an artist that's tried to sign you yet Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: we actually got got like a situation now from an
Speaker 1: artist that's like really great, you feel something, you're considering
Speaker 1: something I'm actually considering. Like he gave me a really
Speaker 1: great offer to just like to stay independent and to
Speaker 1: just be a part of something big, which is like
Speaker 1: dope to me because he's someone who came in early
Speaker 1: and was like, bro, I really want to help and
Speaker 1: assist and we've been just trying to talk about ways
Speaker 1: to do that, and like, bro, he really structured He
Speaker 1: really gave me an opportunity to say, all right, what
Speaker 1: do you want? You feel me? And I'm like, man,
Speaker 1: this is what would helped me. And he's like, bro,
Speaker 1: let's do it. You feel me is don't have to
Speaker 1: don't have all the fucking major label bullshit that you
Speaker 1: gotta deal with, Like it's an incredible deal, like bro,
Speaker 1: And it came from an artist, which to me was
Speaker 1: just like Bro, that is this an artist that has
Speaker 1: a track record of you have any successful label? No, no,
Speaker 1: he doesn't even have a label. This is an artist
Speaker 1: who just has a track record of being successfully independent
Speaker 1: and doing this ship and right now he's developing a label.
Speaker 1: But it's not even about the label. It's just about, like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I need to help damn. So what's it like working
Speaker 1: with Russ? That's hilarious. It's gotta be Russ. It is
Speaker 1: shout out, shout out Russ. So yeah, we got we
Speaker 1: got some ship that we're considering. And just looking at him, man, Russ.
Speaker 1: I always champion Russ and trying to give him his
Speaker 1: flowers because like he literally is giving everyone, Like you know,
Speaker 1: we were just talking about Wallow, but he's giving people
Speaker 1: millions of dollars worth of game like Russ if it's
Speaker 1: crazy because Russ is like like showing everyone the way, Bro,
Speaker 1: and people are fucking weirdoer their haters or they you know,
Speaker 1: they don't like the messenger of us. Russ is a
Speaker 1: real nigga, Like I'm just gonna say it, Like Bro,
Speaker 1: he's reported early and he told me early on like brou,
Speaker 1: i'm'a i'm'a figure out a way how I can get
Speaker 1: in an assistant. He really like held his in like
Speaker 1: even with the offer, like Bro, a lot of offers
Speaker 1: I got from labels, the first offers, like, Bro, are
Speaker 1: you fucking kidding me? Like Brus stopped talking to me,
Speaker 1: you feel me? Russ really came correct from the get go,
Speaker 1: and he was like, look at it. Whatever you think
Speaker 1: should be changed, let me know, Like I sent this
Speaker 1: nigga long ass message of like I I don't really
Speaker 1: feel He was like, all right, let's switch it all
Speaker 1: you feel me? Like there was nothing that he wasn't
Speaker 1: willing to do cause he's really like Bro, he gave
Speaker 1: me a deal that is like very artist favorable as
Speaker 1: he would like yo, like he does. He's gotta he's
Speaker 1: gotta practice what he preaches, right man, Bro, And it's
Speaker 1: incredible to see like an artist do it because I've
Speaker 1: gotten offers from majors and it's like, Bro, are y'all
Speaker 1: are y'all nuts? You feel me? So it's like, uh,
Speaker 1: he's definitely just showed a lot of real love and
Speaker 1: support and you could tell that he really fucks with
Speaker 1: and it has passion because the offer reflects that. It's
Speaker 1: easy for people to come in and say, oh, we
Speaker 1: love what you're doing, we want to help him. This
Speaker 1: is but you get an offer and it's like this
Speaker 1: don't look like what y'all to me, Like this shit
Speaker 1: really looked like what he told me. And it's funny.
Speaker 1: On the phone I told him, I said, Bro, everything
Speaker 1: sounds amazing on this phone. I don't want to get
Speaker 1: a contract, and now I don't understand what we're talking about.
Speaker 1: You feel me so like I'm somebody I don't believe
Speaker 1: all that music industry shit. Ha fifty pays contracts, Like, Bro,
Speaker 1: that shit is dead. If I'm talking to you right
Speaker 1: now and I understand everything, then I get a contract
Speaker 1: and now I'm confused, something wrong. I don't even want
Speaker 1: to look at it, bro, Like well, The thing with
Speaker 1: Russ is like he always preaches that right, like you
Speaker 1: shouldn't you know. I feel like he's just giving everyone
Speaker 1: the way. It's like, Yo, you should never pay a
Speaker 1: lawyer ten percent, like you should never give it, like
Speaker 1: you should never give up this much just for people
Speaker 1: to hit uplook, Like all these things are like man, bro, Bro,
Speaker 1: what's crazy is I'm waiting for Drake to listen to
Speaker 1: Russ and just go independent and break the whole fucking industry. Bro.
Speaker 1: And he needs to. But Drake is also someone who
Speaker 1: like doesn't need to be independent because like Republic run
Speaker 1: him that stupid running that bag, Like why wouldn't you
Speaker 1: he could? He would break the record industry if he
Speaker 1: went independent, I think, because I don't think and no
Speaker 1: one's ever really like at that level said I'm going independent.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's the biggest artist in the world. Like, well,
Speaker 1: I wonder what Kendrick's about to do, like with it
Speaker 1: being that this is the last album, Like I'm sure
Speaker 1: he'll go indie after Like it just wouldn't make any sense. Well,
Speaker 1: I know that Baby Kim is on him and Dave
Speaker 1: Free's label and they're coming through Colombia Sony. So I'd
Speaker 1: only assume if Kendrick is going to I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm just assuming at this point though, right
Speaker 1: because Drake not unders over at Warner, right, but Drake's Republic.
Speaker 1: But yeah, but Kendrick's labels over I think at Columbia
Speaker 1: or at least Baby kim Is. So I don't know.
Speaker 1: If Kendrick goes independent, it'd be fucking insane, insane. Don't
Speaker 1: any of them if any of them do it, you
Speaker 1: feel me, it'd be like that'd be like one of
Speaker 1: those three guys, you know, like Kendrick Cole or Drake,
Speaker 1: one of the three. Yeah, one of those three goes
Speaker 1: to India. So it's it's it's like gonna just expose
Speaker 1: what I mean, what Russ has been saying this whole time.
Speaker 1: Brou And Russ's genius, bro, like he knows for sure.
Speaker 1: I wish you do a podcast or something, man, like
Speaker 1: once a month, did you hit him? He'll do it.
Speaker 1: I just think he did a podcast, even it was
Speaker 1: once a month because his interviews. Man, you can watch
Speaker 1: a Russ interview and come away like, damn, I'm inspired.
Speaker 1: I got some game ownership just the way man, it's like, Bro,
Speaker 1: that's dope though, So you're so are you going to
Speaker 1: be like working with him releasing music together? Man? We
Speaker 1: have we got some ship in the works. And then
Speaker 1: you're just like, man, he's just been like a good
Speaker 1: just help figure whatever. Like if I reach out, like
Speaker 1: I could literally call him whenever, and if he brings
Speaker 1: you on tour, that'd be confusing. Flyer, Man, that'd be
Speaker 1: a crazy flyer. We look like hiding playing Russell Hell
Speaker 1: Russell right now, that'd be fire though. I mean you guys,
Speaker 1: assuming you guys got you guys got some unreleased music together. Man,
Speaker 1: we got we Man, you got a project with him?
Speaker 1: Who knows ep? Who knows? Man? That choump ep was crazy? Man? Right, Man,
Speaker 1: hopefully he puts me on Chomp too. Russell. You see this,
Speaker 1: hey man, you fit the bill right. I want him
Speaker 1: to do like because I know he like self produces everything.
Speaker 1: I would love for us to just go like tapping
Speaker 1: with the Alchemists for like that ten records, just do
Speaker 1: like a whole like if he does Chomp, just do
Speaker 1: with one producer and it be like a legendary like
Speaker 1: late like Alchemists or even like Harry fraud or some
Speaker 1: shit like that. This ship would be crazy. So talk
Speaker 1: about your relationship Marlon seven and your relationship with Tope.
Speaker 1: Who's here come man? Shout out Top Man Portland in
Speaker 1: a building? Man Portland in a building? How did you
Speaker 1: do heroin in Portland? And they they ain't tripping Portland
Speaker 1: in a building? Smoke crack on the corner, go ahead.
Speaker 1: That was just I just met Top this year, like
Speaker 1: in fucking February or something like pretty recently. I had Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had did a live session for an artist named
Speaker 1: Lucky and Toad produced to beat, so I had to
Speaker 1: send him a split and I'm like, hey, bros, some
Speaker 1: bread coming here? This is that right? And he ended
Speaker 1: up hitting me on Twitter and was like, bro, I'm
Speaker 1: really trying to work with the Russell this. I just
Speaker 1: d M him. I'm like, let's get it because I
Speaker 1: had I told myself last year at the end of
Speaker 1: last year, I'm like, I'm gonna try to collaborate more
Speaker 1: because I didn't work with people for like the first
Speaker 1: two three years, right, I just stuck within my team,
Speaker 1: So I'm like, let me try to collaborate more. So
Speaker 1: he pulled up. We did like three or four that
Speaker 1: first day in like two and a half three hours,
Speaker 1: right just knocked him out and I told him, I'm like, bro,
Speaker 1: I want to make a soundtrack for my bike rides.
Speaker 1: I had started biking last year a lot, just like
Speaker 1: going everywhere. I'm like, I need a soundtrack. A lot
Speaker 1: of people did during the pandemic. Pandemic. Man, it was
Speaker 1: out man, Me and the homies all got bikes and
Speaker 1: we was really just mobbing. So I was like, I
Speaker 1: want a soundtrack for my bike rides because like that's
Speaker 1: why I really listened to my ship. And man, he
Speaker 1: just came with the wops and it's like he's from Portland,
Speaker 1: but he's got the Bay sound like it just felt
Speaker 1: and it's not even just I feel like like right, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: you feel me so, but it was it was fresh.
Speaker 1: And Marlin seven is the name of the bike I bought.
Speaker 1: I had ended up like going through a couple of
Speaker 1: bikes and I ended up getting one which is Marlin seven,
Speaker 1: which I love. The track wants to sponsor me and
Speaker 1: send me one right man for certain, like I've really
Speaker 1: given the game. But yeah, we end up doing Marlin seven.
Speaker 1: And I was getting like hella, like just a couple
Speaker 1: of months ago, like we've been holding it for a
Speaker 1: few months. It's been done, and I'm like, man, it's
Speaker 1: just I got away for the right time, and I
Speaker 1: got like really colluded with everything because I start kind
Speaker 1: of blowing up. Just one day, I was like, fuck
Speaker 1: this shit, we need to just drop it, Like, let's
Speaker 1: just drop this shit. And we dropped it and it
Speaker 1: did his thing. Like, Bro, it's already over two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand streams only been out a couple of weeks. Like
Speaker 1: it did his thing. Yeah, I think like too. People
Speaker 1: don't do that shit no more, bro, And that's why
Speaker 1: I think it's been hard about like someone like Freddy
Speaker 1: Gibbs doing like doing shit with Mad Live. I mean
Speaker 1: he did that in twenty fourteen for the first time,
Speaker 1: like Alfredo last year, like just full collaborations when it
Speaker 1: comes to production and the artists like it always to me,
Speaker 1: breeds the best projects, the best bodies of work, because
Speaker 1: it's all it's like a cohesive thing, you know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like that's just missing everybody. So and I
Speaker 1: get the single game, but like everything everybody so like
Speaker 1: they feel like they put an album out, they gotta
Speaker 1: have I gotta have a song for the girls. I
Speaker 1: gotta have club record, I gotta have a radio record.
Speaker 1: I gotta do you know what I mean that it's like, bro,
Speaker 1: just put out something that you can press play on. Oh,
Speaker 1: we just make dope shit and it's like, bro, we
Speaker 1: run it. And that's how I'm doing. Like all of
Speaker 1: my projects, like all of my next projects are like
Speaker 1: with a specific producer and we kind of just did
Speaker 1: it topped the bottom because I like the cohesion as well.
Speaker 1: Looked at you, I mean, what who would you say
Speaker 1: is your biggest influence as at MC, Like if you
Speaker 1: had a pinpoint one person where you're like, yo, man,
Speaker 1: I probably can contribute the most of my style. What
Speaker 1: kind of what inspired me to this one person? Early
Speaker 1: on Kanye and probably later down the line, early on
Speaker 1: Kanye mid Ja, Hole and Kendrick and later like Drake
Speaker 1: you feel Me and then like now Hole, like every
Speaker 1: time Hove does something, I'm like very inspired and like, man,
Speaker 1: when I got older, I finally like listened to Whole
Speaker 1: like as a kid, like to the actual was and
Speaker 1: I'm just like what the fuck, Like it's just different,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean them, Like for sure, Kanye is
Speaker 1: the reason. Like I started making beats. I had seen
Speaker 1: a video on YouTube and like fucking around on the
Speaker 1: NPC when I was a kid, and I just started.
Speaker 1: I'm like, man, I want to make beats. They're making
Speaker 1: beats rapping. That's why a lot of my songs like
Speaker 1: I'm Always You hear like little comedic you know type,
Speaker 1: because like Kanye's influence on me, it was heavy and
Speaker 1: Kanye's I was just telling the HOMEO. I was like,
Speaker 1: Kanye's probably my favorite artist ever. Bro. I was not
Speaker 1: a I was not a fan of jesus Is King,
Speaker 1: but I love Donda. I think Ya's got the type points. Man.
Speaker 1: I had ghost Rooms and listen to Ya and ghosts.
Speaker 1: Ghost Town is one of my favorite songs ever. I
Speaker 1: think it might be the best Kanye song. It's like
Speaker 1: top five, top ten Kanye song ever. Man. It was
Speaker 1: on a come down from a stream trip and I
Speaker 1: played ghost Town and I was driving and it was like, Bro,
Speaker 1: I just felt like Evan. I was like, Bro, how
Speaker 1: the fuck do you make some shit? Like? You know?
Speaker 1: It's crazy? Too? Was like the disrespect that Kitsy ghost
Speaker 1: kits when people talk about like I think Kitsy Ghosts
Speaker 1: is like I got it in my probably my top
Speaker 1: five or six Kanye projects. Like that Ship. I feel
Speaker 1: like people were just kind of off Yea at the time,
Speaker 1: so they don't really like give yet they don't give
Speaker 1: that album Yay enough love and and the kitsy Ghosts,
Speaker 1: bro Born, Reborn or what? Yeah? Man, what's your favorite
Speaker 1: Kanye album? Uh? Probably College Dropout fair enough? Yeah, And
Speaker 1: I mean because I graduated beautiful late Register. I mean
Speaker 1: my favorite late Registration. But I think the best might
Speaker 1: be drop Out because like All Falls Down is like
Speaker 1: the greatest song in the world to me. Like that
Speaker 1: ship really changed. Like I just remember being a kid
Speaker 1: rapping in front to back in the in the back
Speaker 1: seat like you know, word for word. Yeah, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that ship really skits every like that's what. Oh, the
Speaker 1: skits were amazing. The skits were amazing. Kanye brought skits
Speaker 1: Like that's the thing is like I wish you would
Speaker 1: like get like we ain't gotten great Kanye skits for
Speaker 1: how long? For a minute? Bro, He's not the same
Speaker 1: Kanye mane, what do you think of Donda different? You
Speaker 1: know what's funny? So like as as like the more
Speaker 1: I grow, it's like Kanye's like just repport like slowly
Speaker 1: comes down to me. I did. Donda was the first
Speaker 1: project of his. I didn't rush too, didn't rush to it,
Speaker 1: you feel me. And I started listening and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not loving it, so I gotta really sit down again,
Speaker 1: and yeah, there's some dope shit on there. I think
Speaker 1: that I felt started to feel the same way about
Speaker 1: Ya though. Yeah it hurt me. Yeah, It's almost like
Speaker 1: I used to be like so excited for Kanye to drop,
Speaker 1: and now I'm like, I mean, hopefully this shit don't suck. Bro.
Speaker 1: That is funny, right, But that's how it feels now,
Speaker 1: which just like crazy, you know. I think that moment
Speaker 1: for me was the Scoop DIY Poop record. That's funny.
Speaker 1: I was like, ah nah, but Kanye is just that
Speaker 1: He's still that guide in me for sure, Like it's
Speaker 1: just he's that guy. But yeah, it's just like it's slowly,
Speaker 1: just slowly, like you know, as you grow you start
Speaker 1: to see people. There's some good ship on Donda though. Man,
Speaker 1: there's some good ship on Donda. I was not a
Speaker 1: fan of Jesus King in any capacity. There were some
Speaker 1: ill beats on their shot the bugs, but yeah, you're atheist.
Speaker 1: Yeah I am. I'm atheist, but I am atheist. That's
Speaker 1: also probably why I didn't because I felt like, I
Speaker 1: love Jesus, Jesus walks right, but I just feel like
Speaker 1: even Donna's there's a lot of God talk on there,
Speaker 1: but it isn't like it doesn't feel like force down
Speaker 1: your fucking throat the Jesus is King ship with all
Speaker 1: the like live choirs, Jesus as your Lord and save
Speaker 1: it right, Bro, this is a lot like this is
Speaker 1: a lot like from somebody who was like a diehard
Speaker 1: Kanye fan in the every fucking tour, I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: this is just this. This is the first time I've
Speaker 1: ever heard of Kanye album. I'm like, this ship literally
Speaker 1: isn't for me. Man Demons was getting into him. Boy Nah,
Speaker 1: I mean yeah I didn't. I didn't really with Jesus
Speaker 1: King either, Like I mean, I just I just feel
Speaker 1: like I don't wont to Grammy for Best Gospel Album.
Speaker 1: So there's that, you know. I mean it's Kanye. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they don't even know who else made a gospel album
Speaker 1: that year. Like that's why, Yeah, I love yay Man.
Speaker 1: I hope I hope. You know, I kind of like
Speaker 1: I always hear like that. You know, you'll hear like
Speaker 1: people talk about music he's working on and like even
Speaker 1: think about Donda, right, like how long this album was
Speaker 1: supposed to be a thing, Like there's I just feel like,
Speaker 1: depending on where he is at the time, I think
Speaker 1: this is why we probably got something way better than Donna,
Speaker 1: because he I feel like he kind of got a
Speaker 1: chip on the shoulder. He's single, he's working out, and
Speaker 1: ship lost weight as motherfuckers, Like you know, I fuck
Speaker 1: with Donda. It was definitely, Uh, it was refreshing for
Speaker 1: me to enjoy a Kanye album, to be honest, you
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. Yeah, you know Plussy fucked up
Speaker 1: that NAS album. You know the EPW about how you
Speaker 1: fucking fumbling nask Well, I heard the NAS Kanye shit.
Speaker 1: I'm like, this has got to be a classic. That
Speaker 1: ship was mid bro. But during that same run there
Speaker 1: was Daytona, which is one of my favorite albums ever.
Speaker 1: Shout out to push your t Yeah, so uh listen,
Speaker 1: go check you out online. For people who don't know,
Speaker 1: Good Company is the YouTube channel, right, that's your company.
Speaker 1: This is obviously a multifaceted platform. Right, So are you
Speaker 1: like sign an artist? Are you no? So we don't
Speaker 1: sign nobody, but we do everything that someone who would
Speaker 1: sign them do and we don't. We don't sign. We
Speaker 1: just like we just split it up. We divvy the pie.
Speaker 1: It's like, bro, we just want to what we work on.
Speaker 1: We invest in artists, we helped create content and use
Speaker 1: all of our people to help, and it's write songs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it sounds fair to me. Sign no one,
Speaker 1: Like I'm big on Like I don't want to own
Speaker 1: nobody's ship and I don't want to be responsible for
Speaker 1: nobody ship, and I don't like commitments, like if I'm
Speaker 1: not fucking with it, I want to just be able
Speaker 1: to wash your hands and walk away. We did our
Speaker 1: thing that was great and that's it, you feel me.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of how we built the company, just
Speaker 1: being like what an artist fucking needs? You feel me?
Speaker 1: Like an artist just needs help sometimes they don't need
Speaker 1: to be committed for four albums, need some assistance, you
Speaker 1: feel me? So there it is, man, we look go
Speaker 1: follow them online, Go get Marlin seven, go stream it up.
Speaker 1: We're about to do a freestyle, so that'll be another
Speaker 1: YouTube video. Go check that out and Man, appreciate you
Speaker 1: pulling up. Bro, appreciate you. Look forward to hearing this
Speaker 1: new music with Russ and the Kendrick Lamar feature Boom