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Speaker 1: The John Nick and Kenny Florian Podcast. John Annick and

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Speaker 1: Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 2: I fucking love him. I can't get enough of him.

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Speaker 3: Let's hear that both next the job there Cook, Duffy

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Speaker 3: and Breakers.

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Speaker 4: I believe there are a couple of absolutely self involved

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Speaker 4: bullshit artists.

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Speaker 1: Here are your hosts, John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 5: Some weeks, when I hear that clip of us calling

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Speaker 5: fights together circa twenty fifteen, I get more emotional than others.

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Speaker 5: Some weeks, I'm so focused on Kabibe and the show

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Speaker 5: that I'm not even listening to the open. Today, though,

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Speaker 5: I'm getting a little bit emotional. Maybe it's just because

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Speaker 5: I'm forty two.

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Speaker 3: The good old days, remember that not that long Agos

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Speaker 3: fights man Well.

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Speaker 5: Today is Sunday, November one, twenty twenty. Quick turn for

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Speaker 5: episode two seventy four The Anak and Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 6: A lot to get to today.

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Speaker 5: We're certainly going to try not to short change Anderson

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Speaker 5: Silva and Bryce Mitchell and everything that happened over the

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Speaker 5: weekend at the ufc Apex, But a lot of the

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Speaker 5: headlines really center around what Dana White said after the fight,

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Speaker 5: So we'll get into some of that and time permitting.

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Speaker 5: Also Ken Flow's thoughts on Kamza Chimaya versus Leon Edwards.

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Speaker 5: What a main event that is December nineteenth and what

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Speaker 5: a way to close out the year. But we begin

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Speaker 5: headlines with one of the best to ever do at

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow. The former UFC Midaway Champion Anderson Silva does

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Speaker 5: not go out in style if.

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Speaker 6: This is his last UFC fight.

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Speaker 5: I thought there were moments of shine if you will

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Speaker 5: for him, but overall not the result he was looking for.

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Speaker 5: Dana White was regretful after the fact for even giving

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Speaker 5: him this opportunity.

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Speaker 6: Big win for.

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Speaker 5: Uriah Hall, but the story obviously is Silva, who seemingly

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Speaker 5: steps away after this final UFC started at forty five

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Speaker 3: You know, I have no idea why Dana is kind

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Speaker 3: of regretful of putting him in there. I think that

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Speaker 3: this was one of the best better performances from Anderson

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Speaker 3: Silvan a long time. In my opinion, I thought he

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Speaker 3: he was really trying to stay active. I thought where

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Speaker 3: it went wrong for him was when he started getting

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Speaker 3: off balance, and right around that same time, I think

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Speaker 3: we had a tuned in Uriah Hall, and once he

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Speaker 3: thought Uriah kind of shifted his confidence tremendously in the

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Speaker 3: to put him away. And you know, I think Anderson

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Speaker 3: that he does stay retired, you know, because I don't

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Speaker 3: want to see his legacy tarnished anymore.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: But I thought this was one of his better performances

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Speaker 3: than a long time John.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think there was a lot to extract from

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Speaker 5: by Uriah Hall. Dana just didn't seem in a particularly

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Speaker 5: great mood after the fact. He also said of Uriyah Hall,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure if he caught the SoundBite, but he

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Speaker 5: in the UFC. How would you assess the Uriyah Hall performance.

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Speaker 5: Certainly there was an uptick in the aggression and late

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Speaker 6: He found that that knockout stroke.

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Speaker 3: You know, I guess it's always easy to see, you know,

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Speaker 3: Uria Hall's fighting Anderson Silva. Okay, he's fighting Anderson Silva. Now,

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Speaker 3: when you fight a guy like Anderson Silva, you're fighting

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Speaker 3: the legend, you're fighting the myth, and you're also fighting

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Speaker 5: And ultimately, if you're your Ryah Hall, what you're looking

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Speaker 5: and you're looking for a finish and it's almost like.

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Speaker 6: You don't care how you get it.

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Speaker 5: Ideally you don't get it by him getting injured, but

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Speaker 5: your eye Hall went in there to finish the fight.

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Speaker 5: But as far as putting Anderson Silva's career into proper context,

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Speaker 5: because that seems less final maybe than it did a

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Speaker 5: the ledger goes from thirty three and four to thirty

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Speaker 5: four and eleven. And it's hard for me to not

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Speaker 5: think about the end of your career. And I know

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Speaker 5: it was a back injury that ultimately forced you to

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Speaker 5: and you just weren't gonna hang around and be looking

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Speaker 5: thirty three and four to thirty four and eleven. If

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Speaker 5: I'm inclusive in the Goat conversation, he is certainly in

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Speaker 5: my top five. I don't know how you talk about

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Speaker 5: UFC history without repeatedly getting back to the name Anderson Silva. Uh,

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Speaker 5: but public opinion seems very much split as far as

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Speaker 3: John, I appreciate you trying to inject me into the

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Speaker 3: goat conversation. You know, Hey, I'm just not going to

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Speaker 3: accept that though, John, You know, I refute knowledge. Just

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Speaker 3: of course I'm joking, you know, I think that, you know,

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Speaker 3: for Anderson, Yeah, it's tough man. You know again, I

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Speaker 3: think so so many fighters just kind of become institutionalized

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Speaker 3: I do think though, that when you look at Anderson Silva,

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Speaker 3: throughout his career, Ederson Silva was the man to.

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Speaker 6: Be able to interview him in that octagon in Brazil.

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Speaker 5: I believe after his loss to Jared Cannoneer is something

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Speaker 5: that I'll never forget he's the consummate gentleman, dear friend

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Speaker 5: of one of our longtime listeners, Heidi dean UFC staffer,

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Speaker 5: And I know this is an emotional morning in week

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Speaker 5: no overstating his legend for me. If you want to

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Speaker 5: But we congratulate Anderson Silva on obviously a historic career.

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Speaker 5: As far as Uriah Hall's concerned, you know, competitive top

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Speaker 5: looking the part of truly elite bona fide middleway contender

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Speaker 5: taking advantage of a main event spotlight, right, Like I'm

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Speaker 5: not putting in Israel out of Sonya on a Valentina

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Speaker 5: But you didn't watch Youryah Hall Saturday night can flow

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Speaker 5: and think that he's not you know, plus five plus

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Speaker 3: I mean, let's look at Israel's fight against Anderson Silva.

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Speaker 3: I mean, before the Anthony Buckley fight, before the Anthony

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Speaker 3: spinning back kick where he knocked out Geeguard Mussac. Does

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Speaker 3: very similar knockout. It didn't knock him out cold right

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Speaker 3: as a fighter. I don't think he's there yet as

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Speaker 5: Yeah, he'll need two more wins, and you'd like to

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Speaker 5: see him against the Darren Tills of the world right

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Speaker 5: now in current form, But most knockouts in UFC midweight

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Speaker 5: others tied with seven, and your Rya Hall is among them.

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Speaker 6: And you don't go to the general.

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Speaker 5: Safe saoud and sleep on an air mattress at four

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Speaker 5: toss MMA if you don't have the desire and the hunger,

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Speaker 5: and a lot of people believe that that is prerequisite

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Speaker 5: one to be at a UFC champion. So I'm not

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Speaker 5: trying to cut down your Rye Hall at all, you know,

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Speaker 5: I do believe that he needed a finish this weekend

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Speaker 5: in that minus two twenty five range. Those are fights

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Speaker 5: you're supposed to go out and finish, and he certainly

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Speaker 5: did that. So we'll see what they do with your

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Speaker 5: Rya Hall. As big a headline maker over the weekend

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Speaker 5: was thug nasty Bryce Mitchell, And sometimes I feel like

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Speaker 6: I need to get back on my martial arts quest Ken.

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Speaker 3: Flow, Yeah, why not?

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Speaker 5: on the line, Kenny. It seems like Dana and the

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Speaker 5: UFC brass would like to give Kabibe every opportunity to

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Speaker 5: be thoughtful about this decision before he ultimately vacates the

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Speaker 5: undisputed title. Was very quick to vacate, and they were

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Speaker 5: very quick to move forward with a title fight. But

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Speaker 5: it seems, at least right now, Kenny, that Dustin and

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Speaker 5: Connor would be a likely eliminator. It was already agreed

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Speaker 5: for for January twenty third, and the good news is

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Speaker 5: it'll be at lightweight, which just makes it super fucking relevant.

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Speaker 3: Oh man, I mean, that's the fight to make. We

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Speaker 3: were talking about it on the last show, and I

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Speaker 3: think that's absolutely the right decision. I'm really curious to

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Speaker 3: see how Dustin Poier has improved since then. Clearly he

448
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Speaker 3: has improved since their first fight, but how does he

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Speaker 3: deal with those skills against Connor McGregor. I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I still think it's a tough matchup for him, But

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Speaker 3: Dustin Pourier is a problem for anybody, and I think

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Speaker 3: he's fighting him at the right time right now, so

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Speaker 3: I think it's a huge fight. You know, in regards

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Speaker 3: to it not being for a title at this point,

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Speaker 3: I would say, let's wait and see. I think that

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Speaker 3: if Habib gets back to Dan and say hey, listen, man,

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Speaker 3: I'm done. This is it, then that's going to be belt.

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Speaker 3: There's no isand buz about it. I think part of

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Speaker 3: it is being respectful to Habib and allowing him that

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Speaker 3: space to come back if he wants to, because, let's

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Speaker 3: face it, there's no bigger fight in the UFC than Habib,

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Speaker 3: Remaga Medov and Connor McGregor for that one hundred and

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Speaker 3: fifty five pounds.

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Speaker 5: Strap No, you're right being respectful to Kabib and his

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Speaker 5: thirty million followers or so on Instagram. But it's interesting

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Speaker 5: because Kabib has only competed once a year for the

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Speaker 5: last couple and it's hard to believe he would compete

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Speaker 5: anytime before, like July of twenty twenty one, and again,

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Speaker 5: I'm not sure how many times he really wants to

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Speaker 5: cut down to one hundred and fifty five pounds in

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Speaker 5: the future. It was another not great cut, I think. So,

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Speaker 5: I don't know. I think there are a lot of

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Speaker 5: things in play now with the lightweight division now that

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Speaker 5: at least there's gonna be a little bit of a

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Speaker 5: holding pattern. I would also say, as we outline some

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Speaker 5: of those lightweight contenders on the show last week, Dustin

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Speaker 5: Pourier was the hardest guy to make a case against.

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Speaker 5: But a lot of these guys Kenny are coming off

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Speaker 5: a loss. So this actually benefit if it's a guy

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Speaker 5: like Tony Ferguson or a guy like Justin Gaetchee in

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Speaker 5: this conversation, because they can build up a lightweight winning streak,

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Speaker 5: even just getting a win singularly in a fight, and

483
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Speaker 5: all of a sudden put themselves back in the mix. So,

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Speaker 5: you know, without an obvious number one versus number two,

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Speaker 5: I'm okay if McGregor and Poorier doesn't have championship stakes,

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Speaker 5: but I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I think you have some champions who you can trot

489
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Speaker 5: out there three times a year. It could be it's

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Speaker 5: just not going to be that guy, despite the fact

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Speaker 5: that there are obviously a lineup of contenders waiting for

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Speaker 5: that shot at the greatest of all time in that division.

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Speaker 5: A couple other things before we close the book on

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Speaker 5: UFC fight Night Hall versus Silva. So the Greg Hardy

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Speaker 5: fight got me thinking ken Flow about the idling Francis

496
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Speaker 5: and Ghanu and just how good francis in Ghanu is,

497
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Speaker 5: how good he is now seemingly how good he must

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Speaker 5: be relative to that first meeting with Stepe.

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Speaker 6: But you know, the guy has.

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Speaker 5: Fought just a few seconds now in a couple of years,

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Speaker 5: despite dusting all these top guys, and it feels like

502
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Speaker 5: we have this ferocious Mike Tyson like heavyweight entering his

503
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Speaker 5: fighting prime, and it's gonna be hard to get him

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Speaker 5: a fight. It's gonna be steepe. I guess you're just

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Speaker 5: gonna tell me to be patient, right, just be patient?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess. So, you know, I'm sure the UFC

507
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Speaker 3: wants to see him fight really badly as well, but yeah,

508
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Speaker 3: he's in that kind of that zone where you know,

509
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Speaker 3: I don't think a whole lot of people want to

510
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Speaker 3: fight him, and maybe the people that do want to

511
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Speaker 3: fight him? Are maybe unranked where it doesn't benefit Frans

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Speaker 3: and Ghana at this point.

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Speaker 5: Right, thank god for Jarzenho rosenstrike fucking calling the guy out,

514
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Speaker 5: or yeah, really wouldn't have a lot of fights. I

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Speaker 5: mean flow like, I'm just looking this up on my

516
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Speaker 5: phone right now. So twenty seconds, seventy one seconds, twenty

517
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Speaker 5: six seconds, forty five seconds, right, and that takes you

518
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Speaker 5: all the way back to that that Derek Lewis outlier,

519
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Speaker 5: which was midway through twenty eighteen, So you know it's

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Speaker 5: just a few seconds, right.

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Speaker 6: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I just had Francis and got his name in the

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Speaker 5: rundown because as I'm watching Greg Hardy and getting excited

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Speaker 5: about him, I'm thinking, man, you know, like if anybody

525
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Speaker 5: deserves to wait until August, it's steep ay. But I

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Speaker 5: guess that's just has to be the fight, am I?

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Speaker 7: Right?

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Speaker 3: No, absolutely that that's a tremendous fight. I think that

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Speaker 3: you look at you know, you talk about those fights,

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Speaker 3: You're like, yeah, well Francis and Goan is more experienced now,

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Speaker 3: but yeah, that's tree he has more fights. But let's

532
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Speaker 3: talk about how many minutes he's actually spent in the

533
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Speaker 3: UFC Octagon, especially working on his grappling, not a whole lot.

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Speaker 3: He doesn't get there because he's so damn explosive and

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Speaker 3: he's so fast, he's so powerful. But I do think that,

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Speaker 3: you know, he's made some changes, and I think that

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Speaker 3: steep A rematch is going to be very interesting.

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Speaker 5: And I'm sure Eric Nixon and others would would speak

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Speaker 5: Francis and Gano. All right, Ray long going sixty seconds,

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Speaker 6: Let's get to Ray long.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 1: Time for the Ray Longo Minute.

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Speaker 3: So I'm gonna question a whole in this fucking shocks.

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Speaker 2: That's what I want.

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Speaker 1: The Ray Longo Minute story. Ray Longo the John Ennik

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Speaker 1: and Kenny Florian podcast.

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Speaker 6: Long go on that turn and burn.

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Speaker 5: After post fight obligations on extra rounds, he now joins

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Speaker 5: us for his weekly Ray long Minute. You were in

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Speaker 5: Philadelphia last night or was it a Friday night show?

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Speaker 7: It was? I was there Thursday and Friday.

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Speaker 3: Okay.

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Speaker 7: We had a lot going on, a lot, John.

586
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Speaker 6: And I know the team did pretty well.

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Speaker 5: But one guy that I want to spotlight here off

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Speaker 5: off the top of the segment for the star of

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Speaker 5: the show is Poomi Nakuda, twenty five years old.

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Speaker 6: Two and oh now is a pro a win at CFFC.

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Speaker 5: So you were in the bill, uh, and this is

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Speaker 5: a guy that I met, I believe in Vegas a

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Speaker 5: few weeks ago flyweight division.

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Speaker 6: Is that right?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, you're right. No, you're right. You did meet him,

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Speaker 7: I believe when we were outside, yeah, or I met

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Speaker 7: him before. No, I don't know if he was there

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Speaker 7: with me, but you did meet him though he was

599
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Speaker 7: out there with al Jo for a while.

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Speaker 5: So some good amateur experience obviously. Now two and oh

601
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Speaker 5: is a pro to me about about Pumi. Don't call

602
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Speaker 5: him fucking Fumi.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, what the heck is gonna have? How dare you

604
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Speaker 7: what I mean? Listen? Uh you know he I believe

605
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Speaker 7: he was five or six and oh as an amateur.

606
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Speaker 7: Now he's two and oh is a pro. I'm gonna

607
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Speaker 7: say all dominant wins just uh just a you know,

608
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Speaker 7: like the sky is the limit for this kid, you know,

609
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Speaker 7: and even uh, you know, I remember talking to al

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Speaker 7: Jo a while back. He goes, you know, if he

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Speaker 7: doesn't do anything, I'd be really disappointed, Like even if

612
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Speaker 7: he didn't follow it or complete what he started. But

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Speaker 7: he's probably one of the most talented kids in the gym.

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Speaker 7: And uh, you know, morale A use him as spar

615
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Speaker 7: upon it. The only guy that could match Morob with

616
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Speaker 7: his gas tank is this kid. So uh real, real, Kenny,

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Speaker 7: you'd love him and go, Look, he's, like I'm going

618
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Speaker 7: to say, like a Demetrius Johnson. He's going to be that.

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Speaker 7: That's how good he's going to be. Uh. And if

620
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Speaker 7: you look at him, you know, at an early stage.

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Speaker 7: I don't want to go too crazy because sometimes you

622
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Speaker 7: put the kiss of death on somebody. But he's a

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Speaker 7: super talented kid. He's he is going to do great

624
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Speaker 7: one way or the other. So beautiful personality, great, you know,

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Speaker 7: great energy in the gym, and man he performs. Man,

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Speaker 7: he's Uh, he's a he's a great kid with super talent. Man.

627
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Speaker 7: He put it all together the other night against a

628
00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:44,680
Speaker 7: tough kid. Uh and uh. I expect big things out

629
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Speaker 7: of him. I really do.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of big things, talk to me about Bryce Mitchell.

631
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Speaker 5: Some would call him thug, nasty out of the great

632
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Speaker 5: state of Arkansas, big Comaine event, win over Andre Peely.

633
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Speaker 5: Your thoughts on Bryce Mitchell Saturday night and ultimately big picture?

634
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Speaker 5: How high is is the ceiling?

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Speaker 7: Yeah? Let me just I just want to say one

636
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Speaker 7: more thing, John, because I gotta I gotta spread the

637
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Speaker 7: love out. Because we had three guys fighting. I had

638
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Speaker 7: Dylan Montello in Florida on a promotion. What a beautiful

639
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 7: walk away knockout. Two beautiful right hands in a row,

640
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Speaker 7: took the guy out in the second round. I mean,

641
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Speaker 7: picture perfect distance, timing, composure. It's a great fight to

642
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Speaker 7: look at because if what the jiu jitsu guy out

643
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Speaker 7: of Vegas. Man, I'm blanking on everybody's names, but uh,

644
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Speaker 7: the guy almost had him in the heel hook in

645
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Speaker 7: the first you know, first round, it's all he wanted

646
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Speaker 7: to do is get the takedown, but kind of gassed

647
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Speaker 7: himself out and then Dylan just finished it in a second.

648
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Speaker 7: And we also had James Gunzalez who had a tough

649
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Speaker 7: fight but lost. So you know, if I say, well,

650
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Speaker 7: I'm not gonna I can't do that to everybody.

651
00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 5: You're uh if your regional level fighters listening to the

652
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 5: Anak and Florian podcast, because we had got them all.

653
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,240
Speaker 7: Out, every every one of them.

654
00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,720
Speaker 6: All right, we're gonna make a point. I'm sorry to

655
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 6: short change that, but let's get.

656
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:58,120
Speaker 5: To to filthy and uh filthy though nasty.

657
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:02,400
Speaker 7: What a fight against a great you know, against a

658
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 7: really super talented A point I think it was. You know,

659
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,520
Speaker 7: he looks like he's stepping up in increments and you

660
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,719
Speaker 7: know he's very unassuming, but he looks like he's gaining confidence.

661
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 7: And that was a great fight for a variety of reasons, Kenny,

662
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 7: you know what I mean, Because I think it was

663
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,760
Speaker 7: a step up for him. I feel he's been around forever,

664
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 7: He's fought a lot of great guys. So super impressed

665
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 7: with his takedowns, his stand ups, getting better his mindset.

666
00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 7: He's definitely a tough kid. He's not going anywhere. He

667
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 7: was in the gym maybe a couple of years ago,

668
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 7: and again I could be off of my timeline, but

669
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 7: super nice guy and again unassuming. You look at him,

670
00:30:40,600 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 7: you don't really see anything. And then he gets in

671
00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 7: there and he's just not easy. You know, He's good,

672
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,680
Speaker 7: He's really really good. He impressed me three or four

673
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 7: years ago, and I'm even more impressed now. I thought

674
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:56,600
Speaker 7: that was a great win for him. And he's he's

675
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,280
Speaker 7: he's a problem. You know, if he keeps growing at

676
00:30:59,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 7: this rate, he's going to be a problem.

677
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 5: There's a filmmaker out there, and I am disappointed that

678
00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:08,600
Speaker 5: the name is escaping me, but there's a lot of

679
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,880
Speaker 5: Bryce Mitchell content out there, documentary style that really just

680
00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:15,920
Speaker 5: endeared him to the masses and people like me. I

681
00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,280
Speaker 5: can't get enough of the Bryce Mitchell content. You got

682
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 5: anything for us on Anderson Silva, I mean we kind

683
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 5: of exhausted it off the top. I mean, I think

684
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 5: people sometimes have a hard time putting his legacy into context.

685
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 5: And you know, when you go from thirty three and

686
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 5: four to thirty four and eleven, it doesn't necessarily help.

687
00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 5: But as ken Flow articulated off the top, this performance

688
00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 5: was not without merit.

689
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 6: What'd you think of the Spider and a loss to

690
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 6: your Rye Hall.

691
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,320
Speaker 7: Look, I'm just not a big fan of a forty

692
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 7: five year old guy going up against the young younger

693
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 7: experience fight. I'm just I don't see the pointed unless

694
00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 7: you know you need money or whatever it is not

695
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,800
Speaker 7: or even like that. But yeah, I want to remember

696
00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,520
Speaker 7: that guy for who he was. And that's why again,

697
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 7: like he even said it in the post fight interview,

698
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 7: it's like, you know, fighters, you know, it's hard to

699
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 7: walk away. You know it's hard to walk away. And

700
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:13,440
Speaker 7: that's why I really admire like the Kabebs and Sohudo

701
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 7: that can walk away at a time when they're at

702
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,960
Speaker 7: the top. So we're never gonna see those guys get

703
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,440
Speaker 7: this shit knocked out of them, you know, four or

704
00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 7: five times in a row. And I think that there's

705
00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 7: something to that. You know, I might be in the minority,

706
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,240
Speaker 7: but that's the way I feel. I want to remember

707
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 7: Anderson Silver for when he was Anderson Silver. I didn't

708
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 7: even want to see that fight last night. And my

709
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 7: concern is that you know that you're ayah hole. Such

710
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 7: a nice guy. He really is, and you could see

711
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 7: the emotion. I think that's real, man. That was that

712
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 7: was one of his idols that he had to beat

713
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 7: the crap batter, and I didn't even think. I thought,

714
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,720
Speaker 7: like the first two rounds, look, I thought Anderson looked

715
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,760
Speaker 7: great hitting the mitch before the fight. I thought his

716
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 7: movements still there. You could see for a forty five

717
00:32:55,720 --> 00:33:00,360
Speaker 7: year old, he's absolutely fantastic. There's no there's no doubt

718
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,479
Speaker 7: about it. He's still good. But to compete in this

719
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,840
Speaker 7: arena against younger guys, that's a different level. You know,

720
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:09,400
Speaker 7: he's going to be able to do what he did

721
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 7: last night forever. I think at this point he could

722
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:15,800
Speaker 7: go another I thought he showed, you know, and I

723
00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 7: don't know if that was Urryah whole respecting him too much.

724
00:33:18,840 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 7: That was my point. I thought Urya was such a

725
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 7: nice guy, he might even let him win, try to

726
00:33:24,520 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 7: make it look good and who knows, you know what

727
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 7: I mean.

728
00:33:26,920 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 5: I just I don't think Kenny and I agree with that,

729
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 5: because Anderson Silva will fuck you up if you're not careful,

730
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: and then you've lost to a forty five year old

731
00:33:35,320 --> 00:33:38,240
Speaker 5: Anderson silver right Ken flow like I I just think

732
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:42,000
Speaker 5: I think there's some truth in in the earlier part,

733
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,600
Speaker 5: but I don't think Ryah Hall was uh was not

734
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 5: pulling the trigger, all right, because I didn't.

735
00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 7: Want to fight an old man, you know, pulling the trigger.

736
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 7: I said, that was my concern that I think you're

737
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 7: right that guy that he could take a loss and

738
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 7: they wouldn't matter to him, because you know what I'm saying.

739
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 7: I think, again, this is craziness. But you know, I

740
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,560
Speaker 7: just think you're right as that guy. That's why he

741
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 7: was crying at the end, right, No, No, you're right.

742
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,799
Speaker 7: He had to hurt somebody. I believe, really he did

743
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,399
Speaker 7: idolize And that's a shitty feeling, John, It really, that's

744
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 7: a shitty feeling, you know. I mean, you know, it's

745
00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 7: almost like what your old man. You don't want to

746
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,000
Speaker 7: beat your father at anything, you know what I mean?

747
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,680
Speaker 7: And then you know the guy's getting older and you

748
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 7: beat him, and then you know, I kind of been

749
00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 7: through that. I felt like shit, you know what I mean.

750
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 7: So it's I know where you're right is coming from.

751
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 7: So I'm not saying he didn't. I said that was

752
00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,319
Speaker 7: a possibility. I just didn't see the purpose of that fight.

753
00:34:37,800 --> 00:34:40,319
Speaker 3: It's always been, you know, and it doesn't mean we

754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,440
Speaker 3: have to accept it and like it. But it's always

755
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 3: been the nature of combat sports in a lot of ways. Right,

756
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,120
Speaker 3: it's the it's the guy, he's this legend, and then

757
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,560
Speaker 3: all of a sudden, once he starts fading, feed him

758
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:52,880
Speaker 3: to the young lion, so we can create new legends.

759
00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:55,719
Speaker 3: And this game will chew you up and spit you

760
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 3: out and if you don't get out in time, and

761
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 3: that's kind of just a reality.

762
00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 7: And again he is Look, he's still good. He's still

763
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 7: gonna beat the crap out of a guy with no

764
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 7: experience or whatever. Maybe even guys with some experience. But

765
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 7: but what's the point, you know, he's not he's not

766
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 7: like he'd have to tell me exactly what his goal was,

767
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,120
Speaker 7: you know, if his goal was to make another two

768
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,760
Speaker 7: million for his family and he doesn't care what happens

769
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 7: to him. I'm for him, you know, but I don't

770
00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 7: know what he's thinking. And like, again, this is a

771
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 7: guy that was great, that provided so many headlines. And John,

772
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 7: my other thing was, this is a sport where the fans,

773
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 7: I believe, turn over every four or five years. So

774
00:35:37,040 --> 00:35:40,040
Speaker 7: there's people out there that never saw him fight before.

775
00:35:40,120 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 7: Trust me, I talked to a lot of young kids

776
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,400
Speaker 7: that are just tuning in. Now that's what they're gonna remember,

777
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,319
Speaker 7: and then their dad gotta go, you gotta go look

778
00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 7: at that guy when he was this, and yah, yeah dad, Sure, yeah,

779
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 7: I'm sure. But that's the problem I had. I just

780
00:35:53,080 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 7: think it's it's nice. I don't know. I always remember

781
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 7: my old man town. I don't even know if it's true,

782
00:35:57,800 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 7: but I think Joe to Maggio left. You know, while

783
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,160
Speaker 7: he was still great, you never saw him gripping, you

784
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 7: know what I mean, Like I mean you want to go,

785
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 7: you know, watch a great singer, you know, for the

786
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 7: last time, forgetting the words to songs and stuffing the

787
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 7: right I don't know, I mean that.

788
00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,480
Speaker 6: Makes sense, you know, That's.

789
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,160
Speaker 7: All I'm saying. Look, I love I love the guy.

790
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 7: You know, he he gave us so many things. Even

791
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,479
Speaker 7: when he beat Franklin and the clinch can he brought

792
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:25,319
Speaker 7: back you know, the plumb or the ty clinch and

793
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 7: everybody was doing it, and you know he had that

794
00:36:27,719 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 7: up elbow on Fricklin. He front kicked of super talented

795
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,919
Speaker 7: Belfort in the face. That's it. That's the memory I want.

796
00:36:35,360 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 7: I don't want this memory of Uriyah hole, you know,

797
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,680
Speaker 7: knocking him down with a with a check hook and

798
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 7: then beating the shit out of him on the floor.

799
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 7: I mean, it's shit.

800
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,439
Speaker 5: And I don't know in terms of what he has

801
00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,760
Speaker 5: to offer at forty five years old, maybe not maybe

802
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 5: not much against Jared Cannon here, but Connor McGregor said

803
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,600
Speaker 5: sort of the nature and I'm paraphrasing here, but the

804
00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:57,960
Speaker 5: nature of the competitor is such and a lot of

805
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 5: these guys that it's just about finding the right apart.

806
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 5: I mean, you mean to tell me there's not a

807
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,720
Speaker 5: fifty one year old kickboxer out there that Anderson Silva

808
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 5: could could knock out right now. You know, I'm not

809
00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 5: saying I want to see.

810
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:11,359
Speaker 7: It one hundred percent, but you said the key word,

811
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:12,280
Speaker 7: the right opponent.

812
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 6: Yes, he not the top ten, moving good, you could.

813
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:19,360
Speaker 7: Still hit the pads good. I mean, look, I think

814
00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 7: like what Tyson and Jones is doing unbelievable. They're two

815
00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 7: fifty year old guys. They're going to do an extra bit.

816
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 7: That's where he's heading, and he'll be great. Throw him

817
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,560
Speaker 7: in the mix. He's good for that, you know what

818
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,960
Speaker 7: I mean. But at this mma, man is tough to

819
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:37,520
Speaker 7: begin with. And you know, a guy like the guys

820
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 7: that really could last, the guys like Henderson that they

821
00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 7: did the same thing that how is the last thing

822
00:37:42,520 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 7: to go Henderson today, if he hits you with that

823
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:48,399
Speaker 7: right hand, I'm still sure he will knock you into

824
00:37:48,440 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 7: another time zone, you know what I mean. But with him,

825
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 7: it was either he was either gonna win a lose

826
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 7: by that right hand. That was it. He wasn't going

827
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 7: to beat any other way. And that's a little different.

828
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 7: This guy needs, you know, the tricks and the movement

829
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,919
Speaker 7: and that that shit goes the timing. You don't see

830
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,840
Speaker 7: the punches as good as you used to. That happens

831
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:08,600
Speaker 7: to fade a little quicker than your power. And he

832
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,880
Speaker 7: was more of a finesse player. He really wasn't a

833
00:38:10,880 --> 00:38:13,880
Speaker 7: power player. He walked into punches. You know, it was

834
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 7: the punch you didn't see what Anderson and that stuff

835
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 7: has a tendency to go. And look it happened to

836
00:38:19,160 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 7: Leonard Man. That guy was unbelievable. Sugar Ray was by

837
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 7: former the best boxer I ever saw. And you know,

838
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 7: at the end of his career. Man, it just doesn't

839
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 7: look the same. You know. That's why I love Hagler. Man,

840
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:34,320
Speaker 7: he had that fight with Leonard probably one loss whatever

841
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 7: close walked away. All we think of Hagler is Hagler, Herns, Hagler, Mugabi.

842
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:42,160
Speaker 7: All those great fights that Hagler had, we don't. We

843
00:38:42,239 --> 00:38:44,719
Speaker 7: never saw him. We never saw him on the downside.

844
00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 7: And I think there's something to that. Man, it's not easy.

845
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,640
Speaker 7: I think that's I'm just saying, I'm taking that side

846
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 7: of the conversation.

847
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, And I think there are athletes who accrew losses

848
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 5: late in their career that think about that on an

849
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 5: almost to day basis. Man, why didn't I just walk

850
00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:05,080
Speaker 5: away when I was twenty and three instead of being,

851
00:39:05,120 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 5: you know, twenty one and eleven. So I don't want

852
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 5: to steal the thunder of your segment, and there are

853
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 5: a few other UFC items that I want to get

854
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 5: to with you. But because you're the star of the show,

855
00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,560
Speaker 5: and because the MMA masses seem to think that I

856
00:39:16,600 --> 00:39:18,640
Speaker 5: owe them a shoey, We're going to get the shoey

857
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:20,279
Speaker 5: out of the way here during the Ray Longo minute.

858
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,239
Speaker 5: So essentially, if you don't know the story, and I'm

859
00:39:22,239 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 5: not trying to put the spotlight on me.

860
00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:25,160
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to honor my bets.

861
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 7: Oh John, because I'm the man, the spotlight is on you.

862
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 7: You're doing a shoey.

863
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:33,040
Speaker 5: Well, So, because there were no fans on Fight Island,

864
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,839
Speaker 5: fans suggested that if Tai Tuivasa won that I would

865
00:39:35,880 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 5: do a shoey, and so I tweeted that I was

866
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,839
Speaker 5: in to do the shoey. Now in that moment, of course,

867
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 5: I forgot that maybe somebody might be spitting it, spitting

868
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:45,840
Speaker 5: in it before I drank it. But thankfully I have

869
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,280
Speaker 5: found out that is not a prerequisite to doing a shoey.

870
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 5: But a lot of fans seem to think because Ty

871
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 5: won the fight, that I owe them a shoey. So

872
00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 5: Daniel Cormier brought it up on the air. He said,

873
00:39:56,440 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 5: he doesn't even want to spit in it, like, he

874
00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,920
Speaker 5: just wants me to do the shoey. And so, unless

875
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 5: you guys have anything that would further delay me, I

876
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:04,800
Speaker 5: just figured I would do the shoey for the Anakin

877
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 5: Florian podcast audience and uh, and then it would sort

878
00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 5: of live on in perpetuity. If anybody questioned whether or

879
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 5: not I made good on the bed.

880
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 3: Was Carmeo sweat? Was Carmier's sweaty foot in that shoe?

881
00:40:15,880 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 6: Or no, so my sweaty foot.

882
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,399
Speaker 5: I mean full disclosure, like I have run as many

883
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 5: as five miles in these They're rebox JJ Watt model,

884
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 5: I believe.

885
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:27,840
Speaker 7: Again, John, hold up the bottom? I think? Did you

886
00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:28,880
Speaker 7: the bottom?

887
00:40:29,480 --> 00:40:31,319
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, there's dirt in the bottom of the shoe.

888
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 7: Can you can holes in the bottom so to be

889
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,120
Speaker 7: it runs out? You're not really doing one of those.

890
00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 6: We'll see, We'll see. All right, I'm gonna get this

891
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,040
Speaker 6: shoe out of the way and then I'm gonna.

892
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,400
Speaker 5: Ask you in all my sobriety about a kamzat Chimaia

893
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 5: and Leon Edwards.

894
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 7: Okay, let's uh. I mean, do you want us to

895
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,879
Speaker 7: change shoe? Wi shoe wee?

896
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 5: No, Well, whatever you guys want to do, I'm doing

897
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 5: my mic up. You guys are gonna have to carry

898
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 5: the shop.

899
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 6: Last time, I think I chugged a beer.

900
00:41:00,440 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 5: Not all that long ago, and maybe I banged one

901
00:41:02,280 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 5: back on Fight Island, But I used to do this

902
00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 5: with regularity at Getty's for college back in the day,

903
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 5: not out of a shoe, but just banging natural lights.

904
00:41:09,000 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 5: I was the worst shotgunner in the world, not for

905
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:12,120
Speaker 5: lack of effort.

906
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:13,719
Speaker 6: All right, here we go, Ray, here we go.

907
00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 5: Thanks for being here for this, Ray, I know now

908
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 5: we expect it on a Sunday morning.

909
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,279
Speaker 7: No, this is huge, man.

910
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 3: This is John John getting ready to pour the beer.

911
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 3: And I spit you it might as well. I mean,

912
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 3: it's it's your own. It's funny you don't. It doesn't matter.

913
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:31,560
Speaker 3: There there he goes. He spit. He just spit in

914
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,800
Speaker 3: the shoe. Now he's pouring what is that a corona?

915
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:37,320
Speaker 3: I believe it's a corona. Uh, he's got the corona's

916
00:41:37,440 --> 00:41:43,120
Speaker 3: he's pouring it into his rebok shoe. And uh, he's

917
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 3: gonna do this. He's gonna do this right. Let's if

918
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: we can do it all one shot everywhere a.

919
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,520
Speaker 9: Choice.

920
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,759
Speaker 3: He's trying to catch the beer now on the hand. Yeah,

921
00:41:54,040 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 3: a pretty good job. Now that's much better. That is

922
00:41:56,040 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 3: dedication it man.

923
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:59,439
Speaker 7: He actually made a formal letter to pool.

924
00:42:02,040 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 3: Hey, they say, how you do anything is how you

925
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 3: do everything. Dank just killed it on that one.

926
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 7: So they say you read the roll in or roll out.

927
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 7: This man is all in Kenny.

928
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, kicking extra six.

929
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 6: We're gonna love it. Oh, We're gonna appropiate it.

930
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 5: Daddy'll be right downstairs, girl, Daddy even be right downstairs.

931
00:42:24,320 --> 00:42:26,319
Speaker 8: Imagine just.

932
00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:30,359
Speaker 7: Breakfast shoe.

933
00:42:32,080 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 3: Oh Mannick, you're the man.

934
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,720
Speaker 7: Dude, Wow, I like something.

935
00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 3: I'm a whip. I wouldn't have done it.

936
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:39,240
Speaker 5: I had to pull it together, had to pull together

937
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,319
Speaker 5: because I was losing the beer all over the house.

938
00:42:42,360 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 2: Here.

939
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 6: My script for the main event challenge is ruined. But

940
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 6: uh got a nice.

941
00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 5: Little buzz now, Raymond not an empty stomach, a little

942
00:42:49,560 --> 00:42:51,000
Speaker 5: faceted cardio before the show.

943
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 7: We're okay, get those dobs in there, all right, so

944
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,360
Speaker 7: he is. I'm impressed. I don't even know if I

945
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 7: can go on. I might be U Shelsehock.

946
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 5: Well, let me ask you this because Chris Widman did

947
00:43:04,360 --> 00:43:06,959
Speaker 5: factor prominently in this conversation, at least for a little

948
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:10,160
Speaker 5: bit there. Neil Magne does not get the Kamzat Chimayav fight.

949
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:14,760
Speaker 5: It goes to Leon Edwards. Right, excuse me, bona fide

950
00:43:14,840 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 5: top three welterweight in the world. I am so excited

951
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 5: to be a fan. December nineteenth, the week after the

952
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 5: pay per view and watch this main event. Like, I

953
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 5: think this is a hugely compelling main event, and ken

954
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:27,840
Speaker 5: Fall and I were going to talk about it. What

955
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: do you think about Chimayav and Leon Edwards coming up

956
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 5: here in about seven weeks?

957
00:43:32,880 --> 00:43:35,359
Speaker 7: Oh, man, I'm with you on that. I think it's

958
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 7: going to be a great fight. I mean, when was

959
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,880
Speaker 7: the last time Edward's four He's got to have.

960
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 6: A long time ago.

961
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:46,080
Speaker 7: He seems like he just has been totally out of

962
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,040
Speaker 7: the picture, and this kid's been active. I think that's

963
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 7: going to play into it a lot, and uh big

964
00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 7: test for Chamaiyav. I mean, Edwards just squared away. I

965
00:43:56,840 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 7: don't know, like what he's been doing in the off time.

966
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 7: I hope he's been. I mean, obviously he's been training him,

967
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:07,120
Speaker 7: but it seems like it's been a year since we

968
00:44:07,160 --> 00:44:09,280
Speaker 7: saw him at least. I don't know, Kenny.

969
00:44:09,320 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 5: I feel like this is a really difficult matchup, as

970
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 5: hard a match up as Leon Edwards could have accepted,

971
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:17,680
Speaker 5: but certainly that comes with a lot of upside.

972
00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 6: I think he's title shot worthy right now.

973
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,440
Speaker 5: Of course he has the history with the champion Kamara Usman,

974
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 5: but I'm just pulling up the Ledger on the twenty

975
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 5: nine year old that Leon Rocky Edwards. So the last fight, Yeah,

976
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:33,239
Speaker 5: it was Hafel Dosanjo's main event July of twenty nineteen.

977
00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:37,440
Speaker 5: So yeah, he was ten and three after the Usman

978
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,240
Speaker 5: loss and now he's eighteen and three, eight consecutive wins

979
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 5: ken Flow. I just feel like, you know, not that

980
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,640
Speaker 5: he can't win it, not that he won't be favored,

981
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 5: but there were certainly easier matchups out there for Leon

982
00:44:46,920 --> 00:44:49,680
Speaker 5: Edwards than or So it would appear that kam ZACHIMAIV.

983
00:44:49,960 --> 00:44:52,400
Speaker 3: There's no doubt about that. And again I think Kamara

984
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 3: Uzman showed that it's possible to go in there and

985
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 3: grind him against the fence and take him down repeatedly.

986
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:04,560
Speaker 3: Chimayav can certainly do that. But you know what chimaya

987
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:07,799
Speaker 3: have has that Uzman doesn't really is what seems like

988
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 3: a pretty good long round, long range game with some

989
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,600
Speaker 3: serious knockout power. So, uh, here's a guy who's gonna

990
00:45:14,719 --> 00:45:17,200
Speaker 3: come down from one hundred and eighty five pounds. He's tall,

991
00:45:17,239 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: he's lanky, he's strong. I think that for Edwards, hopefully

992
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,279
Speaker 3: we see him, I guess get through some more of

993
00:45:26,320 --> 00:45:28,720
Speaker 3: the layers of chimayav and we get to see, okay,

994
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:32,120
Speaker 3: exactly what this guy hash because we haven't seen a

995
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 3: whole lot. We've seen him either take you down, beat

996
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 3: the hell out of you, and take you out, or

997
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 3: he knocks you out in about a minute. So I'm

998
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,400
Speaker 3: really curious to see how Edwards approaches this fight. I

999
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,279
Speaker 3: think he's much better positioned than he was back when

1000
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:49,440
Speaker 3: he fought Uzman. He's a much better fighter. And if

1001
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 3: Chimaya is able to beat someone like Edwards at this

1002
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:54,879
Speaker 3: point in his career and only what his fourth this

1003
00:45:54,920 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 3: is his fourth UFC fight.

1004
00:45:57,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 6: For third yeah, yeah, I think crazy, Yeah, yeah.

1005
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 3: That would be amazing. If he's able to get a

1006
00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:04,120
Speaker 3: win against Edwards, that means that we have, you know,

1007
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 3: really a legitimate star. And I'm at Jamiah.

1008
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,720
Speaker 7: Yeah, and that's the and that's the that's the question.

1009
00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 7: And let me just say one thing with Wideman. It

1010
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 7: was Chamaiah that called out Wideman. Wideman didn't call out

1011
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,040
Speaker 7: CHAMAI if he's just not he's not going to back

1012
00:46:18,080 --> 00:46:20,640
Speaker 7: down from a fight, of course, and my sentiments way,

1013
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:22,480
Speaker 7: if you're going to get him, get him now, I mean,

1014
00:46:22,520 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 7: if that's what he wants you. We don't know what

1015
00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 7: we don't like. Kenny says, there's not a lot on him.

1016
00:46:27,640 --> 00:46:29,279
Speaker 7: Let's find out, you know what I mean. And I

1017
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,319
Speaker 7: think the Edwards fight is going to prove that. Also,

1018
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,840
Speaker 7: we're gonna know if he's the real deal or not.

1019
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 7: We're going to see if he's got holes in his

1020
00:46:35,600 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 7: games that can be exploited in the future. And uh,

1021
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:40,680
Speaker 7: this is a big test.

1022
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:41,040
Speaker 1: Uh.

1023
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 7: He seems like a young kid who's who's very, very brash,

1024
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 7: who we're gonna find out man, because no doubt I

1025
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 7: think you know, he's he's definitely talking a huge game,

1026
00:46:53,840 --> 00:46:55,759
Speaker 7: and he has smashed some guys. But now he's going

1027
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 7: to get a guy that you know, has been around

1028
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 7: for a while, that's fought some really good guys, and

1029
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:03,640
Speaker 7: we will get a good gauge on what's what this

1030
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 7: ceiling is for this kid after this fight.

1031
00:47:05,560 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 3: But Edwards's a slick man, you know.

1032
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 7: It's almost like what Kevin Holland said, give me a

1033
00:47:09,760 --> 00:47:11,479
Speaker 7: name guy, you know what I mean, instead of guys

1034
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,640
Speaker 7: that are coming in for the first time, we want

1035
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 7: to you know, I think he's right with that. Let's

1036
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 7: see what he's got. Put him in there. With guys

1037
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,719
Speaker 7: that have some name value. And you know, he looks

1038
00:47:20,719 --> 00:47:23,680
Speaker 7: like a scrappy kid Holland, and I'd like to see

1039
00:47:23,560 --> 00:47:26,000
Speaker 7: where we go where how he fares against you know,

1040
00:47:26,080 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 7: some of the guys that have been around for a while.

1041
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 7: Same thing for Tamaiah. There's a huge test, there's a

1042
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,840
Speaker 7: big jump.

1043
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1044
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:35,160
Speaker 5: Well and the jump though that I think is enticing

1045
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 5: for fight fans. I was so excited when I saw

1046
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 5: that this fight was announced and that I would just

1047
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 5: be home six days before Christmas and able to watch

1048
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,960
Speaker 5: this fight. Because for those who criticize the Gerald Mersharp booking,

1049
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,799
Speaker 5: this is the exact opposite of that. They're giving him

1050
00:47:48,120 --> 00:47:50,680
Speaker 5: the number one contender in the Bolt division, you know

1051
00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:53,080
Speaker 5: what I mean. So you beat Leon Edwards and all

1052
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,279
Speaker 5: of a sudden, you know Gilbert Burns is going to

1053
00:47:55,320 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: be next, but short list at one hundred and seventy pounds.

1054
00:47:58,560 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 6: Now that my office.

1055
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 5: By the way, I like Beta Kai fraternity house at

1056
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 5: Gettysburg College. It makes me want to go downstairs and

1057
00:48:04,200 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 5: get another beer. I mean, what are we trying to

1058
00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,600
Speaker 5: do here on an NFL Sunday? Just have a beer

1059
00:48:07,640 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 5: and like take a nap or try to get a buzz,

1060
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 5: So I'm going to get a beer while Cody gets.

1061
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 6: Ian Parker on the line Ray before we let you go.

1062
00:48:16,520 --> 00:48:16,800
Speaker 7: Yeah.

1063
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:20,120
Speaker 5: Seventy eight percent of our listeners who woke up early

1064
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:22,680
Speaker 5: and voted in our poll believe that Thiago Santos is

1065
00:48:22,719 --> 00:48:24,360
Speaker 5: going to be a forty one year old Glover to

1066
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,320
Speaker 5: Share this weekend.

1067
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,040
Speaker 6: I think the fight is improperly priced.

1068
00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:30,839
Speaker 5: I think Clover to Shara isn't getting enough respect from

1069
00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 5: the odds makers given Thiago Santos's layoff.

1070
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,120
Speaker 6: Due to what was a very significant knee injury.

1071
00:48:38,719 --> 00:48:41,600
Speaker 5: And Santos is thirty six right, age is just a number.

1072
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 5: We need a main event pick from you, and then

1073
00:48:43,800 --> 00:48:45,400
Speaker 5: we'll let you get back to your Sunday and your

1074
00:48:45,520 --> 00:48:47,520
Speaker 5: NFL boycott and anything else you got going on.

1075
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:51,279
Speaker 7: Uh wow, that's a tough one, man, and I love

1076
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:55,680
Speaker 7: love it tech s Ara to tech Share. So excuse

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00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 7: me in.

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00:48:56,680 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 6: Parker butchering not just the first name, but the last

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00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 6: name too, Lo.

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00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:05,400
Speaker 7: I butchered it that. That's just that's my accent.

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00:49:05,480 --> 00:49:07,720
Speaker 6: What is it glover like four leaf clover?

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00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 7: Oh go clover? Ha, Oh my god? Perpetua? What was it? Perpetuity?

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00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:17,439
Speaker 6: You'll get you is that a clover in your hair?

1084
00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:20,240
Speaker 6: What is that? Oh no, that's just uh, that's just dust.

1085
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:22,240
Speaker 7: Now, that's just the leaf.

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00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 5: So Santos about minus two twenty five to share in

1087
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,759
Speaker 5: some spots as high as plus one ninety five. Who

1088
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,880
Speaker 5: wins the main event this Saturday night? And then of

1089
00:49:30,920 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 5: course if you want a recap ray longo on extra

1090
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 5: rounds after the fact.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to go. I don't want to, but

1092
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 7: I'm gonna go with Santos, okay, And I really don't

1093
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,920
Speaker 7: want it because I love the other guy, but uh,

1094
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:47,680
Speaker 7: I think, uh man, I'll be I'll be pulling for Glover,

1095
00:49:48,239 --> 00:49:50,719
Speaker 7: but I will love but I but I'm going to

1096
00:49:50,760 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 7: pick Santos if I had to make if a guy

1097
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,680
Speaker 7: had a gun to my head, like you would say, Joe.

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00:49:54,520 --> 00:49:56,520
Speaker 6: That's right, right, all right?

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Speaker 5: Well, uh, you're you're gracious with your time as always.

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00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 5: It's great to say to you, and uh we'll catch

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00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 5: up on the other side and it's back to Monday.

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Speaker 5: I think next week we look forward to uh to

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Speaker 5: speaking with you.

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Speaker 7: Then, sir awesome, what was what was the reason for this?

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00:50:09,200 --> 00:50:14,920
Speaker 5: Uh this in period reasons, but Flow had some television

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Speaker 5: obligations and we had some availability.

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00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:23,359
Speaker 7: Requesting a Jit to his next battle Jack.

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00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:26,160
Speaker 6: But Kenny is also on the East Coast.

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00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:27,680
Speaker 5: We're not going to tell you what state he's in,

1110
00:50:27,760 --> 00:50:31,120
Speaker 5: but because he's on the East Coast, we have more flexibility.

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Speaker 6: When it comes to our time slot.

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00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,320
Speaker 7: So I forgot about that. Yeah, Kenny, it's really happy

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00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 7: to have you back on the East Coast.

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00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:40,920
Speaker 5: But that's right, that's right, all right, Ray, get the

1115
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:42,919
Speaker 5: funk out of here. We love you on the show.

1116
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:43,880
Speaker 5: We'll talk to you next Monday.

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Speaker 7: Yes, all right, guys, have a great rest of the year. Sunday,

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Night Santos versus to Shia, Saturday Night Main

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Speaker 6: Let's get to the picks.

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Speaker 9: It's the Main Event Challenge and every time is most definite.

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Speaker 3: How do you everything.

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Speaker 1: Possible to win the Main Event Challenge with John Hennick

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Speaker 5: And it is great to see my man Ian Parker

1148
00:52:12,840 --> 00:52:15,799
Speaker 5: the Duck on social media at Ian Parker Mma. But

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Speaker 5: the handle likely to change to eventually include the Ducks somehow,

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Speaker 5: some way, and Ian has reason to smile.

1151
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Speaker 6: His first best bet came in.

1152
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Speaker 5: But I want to read you guys at text I

1153
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:29,439
Speaker 5: got from Pohoopa, Marco Stamata, American Top Team MUJ two coach,

1154
00:52:29,960 --> 00:52:31,919
Speaker 5: tell Kenny and that other dude that picked Bobby Green

1155
00:52:31,960 --> 00:52:34,560
Speaker 5: to win that this win for Thiago Moyses was for them.

1156
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,040
Speaker 5: I'm mad that Thiago didn't finish, though, I love you

1157
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:41,359
Speaker 5: and Pahoopa is one of our longtime listeners, and that's okay, right.

1158
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 6: We all sort of articulated.

1159
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,160
Speaker 5: That we thought Bobby Green maybe was improperly priced in

1160
00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 5: that minus two seventy range, but just figured ken flow

1161
00:52:49,120 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 5: that I would share the text from Pahoopa and you

1162
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:55,200
Speaker 5: certainly thought that Thiago Moyses was not getting the respect

1163
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 5: maybe from Vegas that he deserved.

1164
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:59,280
Speaker 6: But big win for Moyses, nonetheless.

1165
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,480
Speaker 3: Absolutely and excellent win. I think, you know, Bobby Green

1166
00:53:03,400 --> 00:53:05,799
Speaker 3: is always going to be a tough out. But to me,

1167
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 3: while he you know, he gains more experience skill wise,

1168
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 3: I haven't seen that improvement that I would like to see. Meanwhile,

1169
00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 3: moys says is a guy that has been improving. You

1170
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,600
Speaker 3: you know, this time around, we saw his wrestling get better.

1171
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 3: You know, he's getting way more comfortable on the feet.

1172
00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:24,160
Speaker 3: When we saw him start out in the UFC, he

1173
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,320
Speaker 3: was very hesitant on the feet. In my opinion is

1174
00:53:26,440 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: wrestling really wasn't there. He's making the right improvements and

1175
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:31,640
Speaker 3: got a got a nice win over a very tough

1176
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:32,200
Speaker 3: Bobby Green.

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00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,640
Speaker 5: He and I want to get your thoughts on Bryce

1178
00:53:36,680 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 5: Mitchell before we update the stanzings and move forward, and

1179
00:53:39,000 --> 00:53:40,880
Speaker 5: maybe some thoughts on Greg Hardy as well, because I

1180
00:53:40,920 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 5: know you're firmly on the on the Hardy train. But

1181
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,560
Speaker 5: what do you think about Bryce Mitchell in terms of

1182
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:50,319
Speaker 5: elite status and how far he can actually take this thing?

1183
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 5: I feel like we've kind of exhausted the win on

1184
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 5: the show, but I mean, do you see him as

1185
00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 5: part of that featherweight to lead or not yet?

1186
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 4: What I saw last night and Kenny and I were

1187
00:54:00,760 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 4: going back and forth during.

1188
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 6: Doing kemp Flow. Texted back and forth, huh.

1189
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 8: Kenny, nice Kenny.

1190
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,800
Speaker 4: Kenny only texts me when he's really mad about someone's

1191
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:13,719
Speaker 4: performance and how what he does what he does on

1192
00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:15,920
Speaker 4: Twitter if he doesn't want to put it there, he

1193
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:19,520
Speaker 4: texts me because he knows I'm listening and I'll respond.

1194
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,320
Speaker 4: But it's funny though, it's like we share that wavelength

1195
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 4: and sometimes when he texts me, I'm like, why does

1196
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 4: he always anger text me? But it's not at me,

1197
00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:30,359
Speaker 4: So it's like he likes to vent me. He's frustrated,

1198
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:32,279
Speaker 4: but he doesn't like me, but he kind of likes me.

1199
00:54:32,360 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 8: So we got like this good.

1200
00:54:33,920 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 4: Relationship and he admitted to the Twitter world that he

1201
00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:39,880
Speaker 4: does like me a little bit. So you know, we're slowly,

1202
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:43,399
Speaker 4: we're slowly building up this. Broman says, Uh, listen, I'm

1203
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 4: trying real hard with Kenny. You know, I'm giving him

1204
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 4: his space. I'm letting him text me what he wants.

1205
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:49,080
Speaker 8: You know, We're in a good place right now.

1206
00:54:49,120 --> 00:54:52,520
Speaker 5: But seriously, on Mitchell right like, because you guys were

1207
00:54:52,560 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 5: both on Andre Feely and I told you privately my

1208
00:54:55,600 --> 00:54:57,560
Speaker 5: best bet at the weekend was Bryce Mitchell and that's

1209
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 5: neither here nor there. But that's just because i'd been

1210
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:02,640
Speaker 5: blown away by him recently in person. So talk to me.

1211
00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm you guys watched this with a more

1212
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:06,680
Speaker 5: sophisticated eye than I do, obviously, so talk to me

1213
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:07,799
Speaker 5: about Bryce Mitchell.

1214
00:55:07,880 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 4: I think Kenny or I would have taken whoever was

1215
00:55:09,800 --> 00:55:11,560
Speaker 4: the underdog in this fight based on the way the

1216
00:55:11,560 --> 00:55:14,040
Speaker 4: show operates to be fair. I think what we were

1217
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:17,239
Speaker 4: kind of looking at was that Bryce hasn't fought the

1218
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,440
Speaker 4: level of competition as Andre Peeley has, or a fighter

1219
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:22,720
Speaker 4: like Phelly, And as you saw with Phelly on the ground.

1220
00:55:22,800 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: The one thing that I was really impressed with him

1221
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,280
Speaker 4: was his defense on the ground.

1222
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,840
Speaker 8: Right he kept trying to get up. He was exploding.

1223
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:31,120
Speaker 8: He was not really put even when he got mounted

1224
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 8: for a second, he got back to guard. He was

1225
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 8: doing everything correct. The problem was he was so exhausted

1226
00:55:36,000 --> 00:55:38,040
Speaker 8: fighting that off that in that third round.

1227
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 4: Where I believe it was tied one one going in,

1228
00:55:40,480 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 4: Bryce was smart, didn't want to get hit with something else,

1229
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:45,080
Speaker 4: took the fight to the ground. I was so impressed

1230
00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,080
Speaker 4: with how quickly he got the fight to the ground

1231
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:50,200
Speaker 4: and how he wasn't even trying to bang with Pheely.

1232
00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 4: Peely was the obvious better striker throughout the fight, but

1233
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,400
Speaker 4: even when Bryce Mitcher got put on his back, he reversed.

1234
00:55:56,400 --> 00:55:57,920
Speaker 4: And you know, I just think the fight I Q

1235
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 4: that people aren't expecting because the way he speaks sometimes

1236
00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:02,920
Speaker 4: in the way he always talks about the Camo shorts

1237
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:04,880
Speaker 4: and his car commercial.

1238
00:56:05,160 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 8: Sometimes people take that for great and think.

1239
00:56:07,239 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 4: Oh you know, he's this Southern boy that just wants

1240
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:11,680
Speaker 4: to eat squirrel and got his nuts chopped off whatever

1241
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,960
Speaker 4: it was. But he's a really smart fighter and he

1242
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:16,239
Speaker 4: played into his strengths and he didn't fuck around and

1243
00:56:16,280 --> 00:56:17,480
Speaker 4: that was super impressive.

1244
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,040
Speaker 8: And yeah, you called it. You definitely said that was

1245
00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:22,800
Speaker 8: your best pick of the week. I'm pissed at myself

1246
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 8: because what was the other bet I gave you? But

1247
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 8: I was too much of a pussy to put Jason on.

1248
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,360
Speaker 4: Now, if you saw the blooper Real and Keeddy, I

1249
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:32,959
Speaker 4: didn't send you this. I literally said, my best bet

1250
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960
Speaker 4: of the week is Jason Whip because last time he

1251
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:37,560
Speaker 4: showed potential. No we fucking did it. He got crushed.

1252
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 4: Why am I saying this on camera? And I had

1253
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:41,320
Speaker 4: Cody edit that to just the parlay.

1254
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 3: But Jason went.

1255
00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:43,839
Speaker 4: I was really impressed with what he did as well.

1256
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,279
Speaker 4: But Bryce Mitchell's got a nice future. I'd like to

1257
00:56:46,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 4: really see the next level of competition. And uh, Andre

1258
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:50,959
Speaker 4: Fieley is still young. He'll bounce back as well.

1259
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:54,080
Speaker 5: And give me thirty seconds on Greg Hardy if you would.

1260
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 4: Oh man, this dude possessed that type of power at

1261
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,360
Speaker 4: any point I thought he exerted a lot of energy

1262
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,240
Speaker 4: in that first round.

1263
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,759
Speaker 8: I do think that this was the right fight for him.

1264
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 4: I don't see him being a top five heavyweight though,

1265
00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,919
Speaker 4: really for another year. I think he needs another couple

1266
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:11,040
Speaker 4: of fights for the top five. I saw a lot

1267
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 4: of spots where if he doesn't get that knockdown, a

1268
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,799
Speaker 4: lot of other fighters, if they do, if they're a

1269
00:57:15,920 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 4: volume striker, can outpoint him. You know, if they go

1270
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 4: out of his ankles. He doesn't threaten the takedowns. You know,

1271
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:25,560
Speaker 4: he's really just a power puncher. And I think he's

1272
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 4: gotten betterol his improvement. His improvement is still there, but

1273
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 4: you know, it's funny we see it against a guy

1274
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 4: like Mo Green, but then you know, against the higher

1275
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,520
Speaker 4: level we don't see that as much. So he's gonna

1276
00:57:38,560 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 4: have to get tested again really soon. But I think

1277
00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,800
Speaker 4: he's gonna have to really pace himself in that first round,

1278
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 4: not get over the excited when he drops the guy,

1279
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,720
Speaker 4: and when he's on top, he doesn't have to throw

1280
00:57:47,920 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 4: the hardest punches he could do the volume. He can

1281
00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 4: take his time, save his energy and maybe also work

1282
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 4: on some top submissions like an arm triangle from the

1283
00:57:55,320 --> 00:57:56,440
Speaker 4: top an advanced position.

1284
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 8: That's my opinion on Hardy.

1285
00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 5: All right, let's spin it forward, guys, Team Attic now

1286
00:58:00,840 --> 00:58:03,200
Speaker 5: leads at one thirty six to one thirty three, so

1287
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 5: it was a three zierl week.

1288
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Speaker 6: Parker goes two and two.

1289
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 5: Can flow almost all underdog selections by the way Ken flow.

1290
00:58:10,240 --> 00:58:12,640
Speaker 5: If it's any consolation, you had three underdogs, but uh,

1291
00:58:12,840 --> 00:58:15,440
Speaker 5: it's one thirty six one thirty three and at UFC

1292
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,360
Speaker 5: Fight Night, Santos versus to Shera.

1293
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 6: Don't forget.

1294
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,360
Speaker 5: We will have a best bet from the duck coming

1295
00:58:21,440 --> 00:58:25,080
Speaker 5: up this Friday on our anti Florian pod media channels.

1296
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 5: But first fight for us today, first fight on the

1297
00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:29,320
Speaker 5: main card this weekend, can be seen on both ESPN

1298
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 5: two and ESPN Plus. In the Strawawat Division, Yon Chaounon

1299
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,960
Speaker 5: minus one thirty five Cloudshag Gadelia plus one fifteen, so

1300
00:58:36,040 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 5: two straight windsy and for Cloud ga Gadelia, she'll try

1301
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:39,840
Speaker 5: to inch closer to a second title shot.

1302
00:58:39,880 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 6: Here Yan chounon how about five and oh?

1303
00:58:41,600 --> 00:58:44,480
Speaker 5: In the UFC ten and oh with a no contest

1304
00:58:44,520 --> 00:58:46,520
Speaker 5: spanning her last eleven Ian Parker, what do you think

1305
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:48,760
Speaker 5: the favorite Shounon or the underdog at Gadelia.

1306
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,680
Speaker 4: I am going with Chauannan here. I just like what

1307
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:54,960
Speaker 4: I've seen out of her, that aggression.

1308
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 8: That poise, well rounded.

1309
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,800
Speaker 4: I think for Claudia her last couple of fights, I

1310
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:03,240
Speaker 4: think where that hesitancy with the output.

1311
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 8: And trying to get this fight to the ground.

1312
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:07,880
Speaker 4: She's becoming too comfortable to that striking against this opponent.

1313
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:10,320
Speaker 4: That is not a good idea. So I'm going to

1314
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,680
Speaker 4: go with the with the favor here absolutely.

1315
00:59:12,480 --> 00:59:15,479
Speaker 5: Ken Fill the first strawweight fight in UFC history July

1316
00:59:15,600 --> 00:59:18,840
Speaker 5: of twenty fourteen in Atlantic City. It was Cloudgy Gadelia

1317
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:21,840
Speaker 5: versus Tina Lahatamaki. I was there remember being impressed with

1318
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:24,640
Speaker 5: both athletes. But it's been up and down for Gadelia

1319
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 5: since right twelfth UFC appearance. Here trying to do something

1320
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 5: she's never done before, which is win three consecutive fights.

1321
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:32,640
Speaker 5: Slight dog here against jan Shall noann How do you

1322
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:33,560
Speaker 5: handicap the matchup?

1323
00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:36,880
Speaker 3: You know, I could see actually Gadelia, who really gets

1324
00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:39,440
Speaker 3: off to a great start for most of her fights,

1325
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,439
Speaker 3: winning this by submission. I think if she takes her down,

1326
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:45,880
Speaker 3: gets the right position, she could finish this fight early. However,

1327
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 3: you know, you look at Yan and her propensity for

1328
00:59:49,000 --> 00:59:53,400
Speaker 3: going the distance and you know, winning these decisions. I

1329
00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:56,320
Speaker 3: could see her out pointing her as well, that's the

1330
00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:59,000
Speaker 3: way I'm going to go. I think jan is going

1331
00:59:59,000 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 3: to be able to keep her on the outside eventually tired,

1332
01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 3: Goodelia out and win by decision.

1333
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,800
Speaker 5: And by the way, we have an intern starting next

1334
01:00:06,840 --> 01:00:08,960
Speaker 5: week who's going to keep track of all these numbers.

1335
01:00:09,000 --> 01:00:11,560
Speaker 5: Maybe a new scoring system for twenty twenty one. And

1336
01:00:11,640 --> 01:00:14,080
Speaker 5: don't you worry, the Duck is sticking around in some capacity.

1337
01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,320
Speaker 5: I know it's been a little swell for the Duck

1338
01:00:16,360 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 5: fan base over the weekend, so we're paying attention. What

1339
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 5: are you doing? I'm giving you some fucking shine. What's

1340
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:25,920
Speaker 5: the problem putting your hands in the air like that emoji?

1341
01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:30,880
Speaker 4: Like no, no, we didn't even get to the second fight.

1342
01:00:30,920 --> 01:00:32,240
Speaker 4: We're already talking about my future.

1343
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 8: I love it. It's okay. Now we're good. We're good.

1344
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:36,200
Speaker 6: Your future is fairly secured.

1345
01:00:36,640 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: I appreciate that. Back against the Wall, Duck flies high.

1346
01:00:39,320 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 3: List fairly in caps.

1347
01:00:40,840 --> 01:00:43,240
Speaker 5: All right, big fight at Middleway ken Flow, We'll have

1348
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:45,080
Speaker 5: you lead here. This one's got some heat on it,

1349
01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 5: folks Ian Heidi is the guy with the number next

1350
01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 5: to his name, it's a fifteen, but it is Brendan

1351
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:52,120
Speaker 5: Allen who is the minus one thirty five favorite. Heiness

1352
01:00:52,160 --> 01:00:55,360
Speaker 5: comes back plus one fifteen. So Brendan Allen Kenny pretty

1353
01:00:55,400 --> 01:00:57,960
Speaker 5: impressive young kid three and zero in the UFC Ton

1354
01:00:58,000 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 5: of Experience despite being like twenty five or so. And

1355
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 5: now he's left Milwaukee for South Florida RUFUS Sport out Sandford,

1356
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:06,840
Speaker 5: m m A. In what do you think about Alan

1357
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:09,040
Speaker 5: here against Ian Hynisch in a fight by the way

1358
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 5: that initially was slated for June twenty seventh and shall

1359
01:01:11,640 --> 01:01:12,400
Speaker 5: be down this weekend.

1360
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 3: I'll say this, I think Heynis is one of those

1361
01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 3: guys who, even if you beat him, he can make

1362
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 3: you look bad. He's awkward, he's tough, he doesn't go

1363
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 3: away easily. You know. He's a solid wrestler, can get

1364
01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200
Speaker 3: you on the ground, can beat you up. You know,

1365
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 3: definitely we'll swing for your face and try to knock

1366
01:01:29,600 --> 01:01:33,000
Speaker 3: your head off. But I do think that Brendon Allen

1367
01:01:33,680 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 3: is very skillful. I think he brings a lot of

1368
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:39,600
Speaker 3: skill here to the table that I don't think Ianis

1369
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 3: has really had to deal with before. I think Alan

1370
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,800
Speaker 3: is a guy to watch for sure, a guy who

1371
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,480
Speaker 3: I think will fight for the belt one day. Has

1372
01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:51,480
Speaker 3: you know, the youth, as you said, but has a

1373
01:01:51,480 --> 01:01:55,720
Speaker 3: lot of experience and it's really good everywhere in my opinion,

1374
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,760
Speaker 3: so I think he's got the right mindset as well.

1375
01:01:58,840 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 3: So yeah, I'm going to go with Allen here.

1376
01:02:01,240 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 5: Ken Fluoll likes BA Brendan all and Allen. On the

1377
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,200
Speaker 5: other side, Ian Hainish crazy story, you should look it up.

1378
01:02:08,200 --> 01:02:10,960
Speaker 5: But he's certainly been through some things in his personal life. Professionally,

1379
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,360
Speaker 5: he's coming off a win over Allen's teammate and friend,

1380
01:02:13,920 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 5: Gerald Mershart. That was UFC two fifty in June, and

1381
01:02:16,320 --> 01:02:18,160
Speaker 5: you may recall he was supposed to fight Alani in

1382
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 5: a few weeks later, but shortly thereafter, when the fight

1383
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 5: was sort of announced, I and Heinisch pulled out. So

1384
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,680
Speaker 5: then Brendan Allen fought a very game Kyle Daccas and

1385
01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,040
Speaker 5: was extended by him. But I think you're going to

1386
01:02:28,080 --> 01:02:29,640
Speaker 5: get a big effort out of both of these guys.

1387
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:31,760
Speaker 5: What do you think about the middleweight's coming up Saturday Night?

1388
01:02:33,360 --> 01:02:36,960
Speaker 4: I think Kenny wrote it down pretty much perfectly. This

1389
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,120
Speaker 4: is Brendan Allen's fight, I think stylistically one hundred percent.

1390
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 4: The only concern I have is if Ian Heine shoots

1391
01:02:42,600 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 4: in for a takedown. It looks like Brendan Allen's a

1392
01:02:44,680 --> 01:02:48,040
Speaker 4: little too comfortable jumping on guillotines at any point in

1393
01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:50,480
Speaker 4: the fight, and I think what we've seen is that

1394
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:53,440
Speaker 4: past the first round, it's just not a good idea.

1395
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:54,960
Speaker 8: And sometimes when guys are.

1396
01:02:54,880 --> 01:02:57,480
Speaker 4: Too confident in their jiu jitsu against a guy like heis,

1397
01:02:57,520 --> 01:02:59,440
Speaker 4: Heinisch will be happy to sit in your guard and

1398
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,200
Speaker 4: grind out around and land those shots and Alan can

1399
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 4: pull up the submissions. But I don't see Heinish as

1400
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,200
Speaker 4: a guy that gets submitted from the top like that.

1401
01:03:06,400 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: You know, I think Alan to have to use his

1402
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,120
Speaker 4: jiu jitsu if he gets taken down to get back

1403
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 4: up where I think he's the more technical striker compared

1404
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,880
Speaker 4: to Heinish being wild. However, that being said, I think

1405
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:18,520
Speaker 4: Alan has way more tools to win, and if I

1406
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,480
Speaker 4: don't pick him, Balah Muhammad will unfriend me. So I

1407
01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:24,520
Speaker 4: do like Brandon Allen, uh I'm curious to where his

1408
01:03:24,560 --> 01:03:26,080
Speaker 4: journey goes. I do see a lot of potential in

1409
01:03:26,080 --> 01:03:27,440
Speaker 4: that Kid's ceiling is really high.

1410
01:03:27,480 --> 01:03:28,040
Speaker 8: Absolutely.

1411
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:31,400
Speaker 6: Ballot doesn't seem like the unfriending type.

1412
01:03:32,920 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 4: No, but I didn't let him borrow my computer for

1413
01:03:34,760 --> 01:03:36,160
Speaker 4: his show this weekend, so he was upset.

1414
01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:37,920
Speaker 8: I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. He was here, he

1415
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,120
Speaker 8: was dude, he was like fifteen minutes.

1416
01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, he was in South Florida.

1417
01:03:40,680 --> 01:03:43,600
Speaker 4: He rarely hits me up. He's like, yo, show starts

1418
01:03:43,600 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 4: an hour. Can I borrow your computer? I'm like, you know,

1419
01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 4: you could do your show on the phone.

1420
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:48,920
Speaker 8: He's like I can. I was like, yeah, you're good.

1421
01:03:48,920 --> 01:03:49,120
Speaker 7: Bro.

1422
01:03:49,800 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 4: Imagine this guy shows up my house, borrows my computer

1423
01:03:52,320 --> 01:03:52,919
Speaker 4: and then like.

1424
01:03:53,120 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 8: Drops it off. I don't see him again for a year.

1425
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:55,920
Speaker 8: That would have been a good story.

1426
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:58,439
Speaker 5: It was a big seventh episode for remember the show

1427
01:03:58,480 --> 01:04:01,000
Speaker 5: by the way on this very channel with Dustin Corier

1428
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:03,440
Speaker 5: and Paul Thunder. But I gotta say, man, right, I

1429
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 5: wish he had your computer, But I wish he just

1430
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 5: had a fucking door or a quiet room. Did you

1431
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,840
Speaker 5: see Jared Gordon like banging fucking pots and pans in

1432
01:04:10,920 --> 01:04:13,920
Speaker 5: the background of Blall's show. I mean, I love me

1433
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,400
Speaker 5: some remember the name, but like, I'm an audio guy.

1434
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,920
Speaker 5: So I listened to that show. I wasn't necessarily watching it,

1435
01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 5: and I hear all the pots and pans. I had

1436
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:24,360
Speaker 5: to had to text my executive producer, Cody.

1437
01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 6: Merrow, Uh you gotta get them. As I said, Ballall

1438
01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 6: about the fucking pots and pans.

1439
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:30,880
Speaker 4: At what point did anyone think it was a good

1440
01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:32,920
Speaker 4: idea for Ballall to shoot the show with Jared within

1441
01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:34,960
Speaker 4: a five foot ten foot distance from him, which you

1442
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:37,280
Speaker 4: think that was going to go off smoothly? I'm surprised

1443
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 4: he wasn't behind him hitting everything that whole time. Come on,

1444
01:04:40,080 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 4: but uh, great episode for them as well.

1445
01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:44,560
Speaker 5: All right, co main event at heavyweight Tanner the Bulldozer,

1446
01:04:44,600 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 5: Boser minus two sixty Andandre Rolovsky is plus two twenty.

1447
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,320
Speaker 5: We'll need the round of the method of victory. We

1448
01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,480
Speaker 5: will have Ian Parker lead here. So here's my thesis

1449
01:04:52,480 --> 01:04:54,480
Speaker 5: statement on the fight. I am calling it, but Boser

1450
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:56,880
Speaker 5: is a top twelve heavyweight in the world right now.

1451
01:04:56,920 --> 01:05:00,520
Speaker 5: I found I think six heavyweights in the world in

1452
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 5: the top fifteen that I think he beats despite not

1453
01:05:03,360 --> 01:05:05,600
Speaker 5: being ranked. He's minus two to sixty here against the

1454
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,600
Speaker 5: ageles Andre Orlovski, who makes his thirty third UFC appearance Here.

1455
01:05:09,640 --> 01:05:12,040
Speaker 6: Ian Parker, Boser Orlovsky. Who do you like?

1456
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 4: I can't believe how many fights Andre Rolovsky has had

1457
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 4: in the octagon.

1458
01:05:17,400 --> 01:05:18,280
Speaker 8: It really is crazy.

1459
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:21,600
Speaker 4: I remember his fights dating back to Tim Silvia. I

1460
01:05:21,640 --> 01:05:24,320
Speaker 4: am such a Boser fan here me too, bro such

1461
01:05:24,320 --> 01:05:26,400
Speaker 4: a big fan personality for days.

1462
01:05:26,560 --> 01:05:27,920
Speaker 8: Oh man, this guy's marketable.

1463
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,480
Speaker 4: He is hilarious, he's humble, great Twitter situation going on

1464
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 4: with him, and I think he's getting better every fight.

1465
01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 4: I really, I really do. I don't think he's just

1466
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:37,440
Speaker 4: a brawler. I think his striking has gotten way more technical.

1467
01:05:37,480 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 4: The angles he's taking, you know, the way he's moving

1468
01:05:39,880 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 4: his feet. He's not just bull dozing in no pun

1469
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,320
Speaker 4: intending there. He really is just tightening up this game

1470
01:05:45,360 --> 01:05:46,640
Speaker 4: and the fight.

1471
01:05:46,680 --> 01:05:46,919
Speaker 8: IQ.

1472
01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:49,240
Speaker 4: I'm so impressed because when he first got into the UFC,

1473
01:05:49,600 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 4: you're thinking another brute brawler, a guy who's just gonna

1474
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:54,600
Speaker 4: know rock him soccerm robot. But he's really being super

1475
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,880
Speaker 4: efficient with these fights and he's finishing.

1476
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,440
Speaker 8: And I think a guy in Arlovsky who does not.

1477
01:05:59,520 --> 01:06:02,640
Speaker 4: Threaten the downs, who is very hittable, I mean, like

1478
01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,720
Speaker 4: the most hittable person ever potentially, and that's not a

1479
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 4: knock on him. It's just the way he fights as

1480
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:11,080
Speaker 4: well and his age. You know, nothing against Olasky, he'll

1481
01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 4: be an all time great. I just think this is

1482
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,280
Speaker 4: Tanner's fight to get a nice name on his resume,

1483
01:06:15,600 --> 01:06:17,840
Speaker 4: and I'm gonna go knockout round one for.

1484
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:23,760
Speaker 5: Tanner Tanner Boser, round one Tko or knockout Kenny. We've

1485
01:06:23,760 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 5: talked about somebody grabbing this Canadian market by the balls

1486
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 5: right and selling out the Bell Center or somewhere else

1487
01:06:30,440 --> 01:06:33,360
Speaker 5: Toronto or otherwise. We talked about Hakeem Dawado and others,

1488
01:06:33,360 --> 01:06:36,600
Speaker 5: and maybe Tanner Boser with the mullet and missing teeth.

1489
01:06:36,600 --> 01:06:38,439
Speaker 5: He won't even tell you why he's missing the tooth.

1490
01:06:38,480 --> 01:06:39,960
Speaker 5: Don't ask him. We tried in a fight or meet it.

1491
01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:42,520
Speaker 5: He don't want to go down that road. But karate guy,

1492
01:06:42,840 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 5: very thoughtful martial artists right who you know, fancied himself

1493
01:06:46,600 --> 01:06:49,160
Speaker 5: a modern day Lioto Machida at times has studied George

1494
01:06:49,200 --> 01:06:52,160
Speaker 5: Saint Pierre. On the other side, Andre Rolovski. The more

1495
01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,520
Speaker 5: known quantity forty one years old UFC debut was November seventeenth,

1496
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:01,080
Speaker 5: two thousand, UFC twenty eight high stake at the Trump

1497
01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:04,360
Speaker 5: toaz Maha in Atlantic City, New Jersey. And despite the fact,

1498
01:07:04,400 --> 01:07:06,560
Speaker 5: Kenny that he was outside the UFC competing for more

1499
01:07:06,600 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 5: than six years from two thousand and eight to twenty fourteen,

1500
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 5: he still could end up retiring with more UFC fights

1501
01:07:11,560 --> 01:07:14,240
Speaker 5: than anyone ever and he won his last one on

1502
01:07:14,280 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 5: May thirteenth against Felipe Linz. What do you think about

1503
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:18,320
Speaker 5: Arlovsky here trying to make it three wins in his

1504
01:07:18,440 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 5: last four as an underdog against Tanner Boser.

1505
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Speaker 3: You know, this is a tough fight for Arlovsky. You know,

1506
01:07:24,240 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 3: he's been given a lot of tough fights. I think

1507
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:30,440
Speaker 3: that he does have a whole lot of experience, and

1508
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,960
Speaker 3: we've we've seen much better footwork and defensive responsibility from Arlovsky,

1509
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: but we've still seen that inconsistency from him, and that's

1510
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:42,960
Speaker 3: what worries me the most. I've been a big fan

1511
01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 3: of Arlovsky. I love that he's continuing to compete and

1512
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:49,400
Speaker 3: challenge himself. I still think he's got some you know,

1513
01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,720
Speaker 3: fuel in the tank. But I don't like, I don't

1514
01:07:51,760 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 3: love this fight for him. I think Tanner Boser, you know,

1515
01:07:55,240 --> 01:07:57,560
Speaker 3: a lot like Ian. I'm really high on this guy.

1516
01:07:57,720 --> 01:07:59,640
Speaker 3: I think this is a guy who can go really far.

1517
01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:05,040
Speaker 3: I think he carries, you know, intelligence about him that

1518
01:08:05,120 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 3: I think will take him a long way. I could

1519
01:08:07,640 --> 01:08:11,160
Speaker 3: definitely see him fighting for the belt and possibly winning it.

1520
01:08:11,240 --> 01:08:13,720
Speaker 3: I think he also has the mindset where he's not

1521
01:08:13,800 --> 01:08:16,040
Speaker 3: going to be intimidated by a Francis and Ghano. He's

1522
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 3: not going to be wowed by a step A Miachichen

1523
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,760
Speaker 3: that kind of legend. He's out there to win. He

1524
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 3: stays focused and I think he's going to do that

1525
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 3: against Arlovsky viet knockout in round two.

1526
01:08:27,000 --> 01:08:29,479
Speaker 5: Look at ken Flow just fucking bringing it on Tanner,

1527
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 5: the bulldozer that's riding. I like sometimes when my opinion

1528
01:08:33,560 --> 01:08:35,680
Speaker 5: dovetails with Ken Flow, But I mean, you think his

1529
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:37,920
Speaker 5: ceiling might be even higher than mine. But I'm telling you,

1530
01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:40,800
Speaker 5: the best thing you probably said was that he is

1531
01:08:40,840 --> 01:08:43,759
Speaker 5: not a striker that will be intimidated in a striking

1532
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:44,960
Speaker 5: realm with Francis and Ghana.

1533
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:45,479
Speaker 6: He's just not.

1534
01:08:45,680 --> 01:08:47,559
Speaker 5: So maybe we found a guy who would fight in Ghana.

1535
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:49,680
Speaker 5: All right, main event can Flow trail and now, so

1536
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 5: he's going to lead off on the headliner here Thiago

1537
01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:54,559
Speaker 5: Santos minus two twenty five, Glover to share a plus

1538
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,479
Speaker 5: one eighty five. Poll results at Anna Florian Pod about

1539
01:08:57,520 --> 01:08:59,679
Speaker 5: seventy eight percent of you on Santos, the other twenty

1540
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 5: two percent on the underdog to Shaa. So that kind

1541
01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:05,640
Speaker 5: of flows with the betting line, and I sort of

1542
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,559
Speaker 5: feel like, for different reasons, I really want to see

1543
01:09:07,600 --> 01:09:09,519
Speaker 5: both of these guys win. I know now it looks

1544
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,360
Speaker 5: like Wohovich is going to fight out Asnia, but it

1545
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,120
Speaker 5: would be great to see Santo's come back from the

1546
01:09:13,160 --> 01:09:14,400
Speaker 5: debilitating injury and win.

1547
01:09:14,920 --> 01:09:15,360
Speaker 6: To share.

1548
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 5: I'm not sure he's ever been better than he is

1549
01:09:17,160 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 5: right now at forty one years old. Can flow, but

1550
01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 5: we need to know what you think of the betting

1551
01:09:21,320 --> 01:09:23,200
Speaker 5: number and ultimately which way you're going on the main

1552
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,800
Speaker 5: event coming up in six days.

1553
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 3: I'll say this, Listen, if we see the clover to

1554
01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:30,320
Speaker 3: Shira that we've seen as of late, I think to

1555
01:09:30,400 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 3: Shera could go out there and take down Santos. I

1556
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:36,040
Speaker 3: don't think Santos is a big threat on the ground.

1557
01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:38,719
Speaker 3: I think that's always been a big vulnerability for him,

1558
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:43,040
Speaker 3: you know, especially Toicerro with that background. I think could

1559
01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 3: take advantage of that and maybe you know, lock up

1560
01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 3: a rear naked choke. Do I see that happening? I don't.

1561
01:09:49,240 --> 01:09:51,160
Speaker 3: I think Thiago Santos is going to be able to

1562
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,559
Speaker 3: stop the takedown. So I think his speed and power

1563
01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,320
Speaker 3: is going to be the difference here against Glover. To

1564
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:59,120
Speaker 3: Shia Toshera has never been the fastest guy, but we

1565
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,120
Speaker 3: have seen him down a little bit more and sometimes

1566
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 3: I think that I don't know. I think with Glover,

1567
01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:09,639
Speaker 3: with his activity, I'm not sure yet if I can

1568
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,200
Speaker 3: make a determination as to whether it's a good thing

1569
01:10:12,320 --> 01:10:16,599
Speaker 3: or a bad thing, because sometimes we've seen Glover look

1570
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:19,559
Speaker 3: amazing and then other times he just seems like tired,

1571
01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,400
Speaker 3: like he's been through a brutal camp with injury. So

1572
01:10:22,479 --> 01:10:25,679
Speaker 3: that's a concern for me, you know, with him being

1573
01:10:25,880 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 3: forty one years old. So I'm gonna go with Santos here.

1574
01:10:30,439 --> 01:10:32,320
Speaker 3: You know, I think he wins, and I think he

1575
01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 3: wins early. I think that's his best shot against to

1576
01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:37,479
Speaker 3: Shera is to get a win by knockout in round one.

1577
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:40,679
Speaker 5: Round one TKO for Tiago Santos is the way Kempflow's

1578
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,920
Speaker 5: going on the main event. Broadcasters dream with that first

1579
01:10:43,000 --> 01:10:45,519
Speaker 5: round finish, hitting a red out of Miami right after

1580
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 5: the fight, so that wouldn't hurt so Glover to Shera

1581
01:10:48,400 --> 01:10:51,360
Speaker 5: has not lost since he turned forty. He's forty one

1582
01:10:51,479 --> 01:10:54,519
Speaker 5: four straight wins, all of them against good competition. On

1583
01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:58,000
Speaker 5: the other side, and Santos's last fight against John Jones,

1584
01:10:58,280 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 5: I thought he fought exceptionally well. I felt like he

1585
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 5: easily could have won that fight three too, but it

1586
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:06,280
Speaker 5: was July of twenty nineteen. During the fight, he injured

1587
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:08,640
Speaker 5: the shit out of Jones's legs, but he sustained a

1588
01:11:08,720 --> 01:11:13,799
Speaker 5: torn left LCLPCL, MCL, moniscus crack tibia, then a partially

1589
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,040
Speaker 5: torn right ACL as well.

1590
01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:17,360
Speaker 6: It's been a long time.

1591
01:11:18,080 --> 01:11:20,559
Speaker 5: I think he's engaged to Yana Kunitskay and now, if

1592
01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,320
Speaker 5: I'm not mistaken, but that is neither here nor there. Ian,

1593
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 5: do you see any value on Tashera And ultimately which

1594
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:27,120
Speaker 5: way you're going on the main event?

1595
01:11:28,760 --> 01:11:30,040
Speaker 8: I think he's actually married.

1596
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,840
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, it's a good update for me. Will I

1597
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,320
Speaker 5: gotta get that right on Saturday.

1598
01:11:35,360 --> 01:11:38,840
Speaker 8: So look at that. I gave you a fucking fact

1599
01:11:38,920 --> 01:11:41,960
Speaker 8: for something to talk to him about. That's amazing. I'm

1600
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:45,400
Speaker 8: not gonna try and even pronounce her last name. So Santos,

1601
01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:49,960
Speaker 8: there we go. So you know what, Here, here's the thing,

1602
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 8: ninety nine point nine percent of the time.

1603
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,760
Speaker 4: I was going to agree with Kenny with that pick,

1604
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:56,679
Speaker 4: but I don't know how I do that right now.

1605
01:11:56,680 --> 01:11:59,720
Speaker 4: With Glover on the up, and Santos hasn't fought in

1606
01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,839
Speaker 4: a lot long time, coming off of the double knee surgery,

1607
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:05,600
Speaker 4: pretty much having to recoat himself how to walk, you know,

1608
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:08,920
Speaker 4: I mean to me, I actually thought he was gonna

1609
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 4: get a lesser fight.

1610
01:12:11,680 --> 01:12:14,759
Speaker 8: Not saying that Glover is top two right now, but look.

1611
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,840
Speaker 4: He dominated Anthony Smith. He's fought really well lately, and

1612
01:12:17,880 --> 01:12:20,960
Speaker 4: I think, man to Kenny's point, I don't think this

1613
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:23,400
Speaker 4: goes to distance either which way. You know, you talk

1614
01:12:23,400 --> 01:12:24,960
Speaker 4: about a guy in Santos has been out of the

1615
01:12:25,000 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 4: page for a long time. Where is his cardio at?

1616
01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 8: With his knees?

1617
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:29,719
Speaker 4: How long has he been able to really go hard

1618
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:31,960
Speaker 4: with his knees? And how hard does he go because

1619
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:32,479
Speaker 4: of his knees?

1620
01:12:32,520 --> 01:12:32,680
Speaker 7: You know?

1621
01:12:32,720 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 4: And with Glover, he's old, he's been through it, He's

1622
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,360
Speaker 4: been through a lot of wars.

1623
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:39,320
Speaker 8: But this is the time to take a shot of.

1624
01:12:39,320 --> 01:12:42,720
Speaker 4: The underdog here. You know, I'm gonna ride the Glover momentum.

1625
01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 4: I like what Kenny said, Santos in his career has

1626
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,160
Speaker 4: always his biggest negative has been fighting off his back.

1627
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,799
Speaker 4: Not really a threat jiu jitsu wise. I think Glover

1628
01:12:51,920 --> 01:12:55,040
Speaker 4: does get this fight down. We do get this fight

1629
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,200
Speaker 4: to the ground, and I think Glover is gonna win

1630
01:12:57,240 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 4: by a rare naked choke. I'm gonna steal that from

1631
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:01,519
Speaker 4: Kenny right here. I'm going, like I said, if any

1632
01:13:01,640 --> 01:13:03,519
Speaker 4: time for Glover to do it, it's right now.

1633
01:13:03,920 --> 01:13:04,519
Speaker 6: What round?

1634
01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:06,679
Speaker 8: Oh, I'm sorry, give me round two?

1635
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,320
Speaker 7: All right?

1636
01:13:07,400 --> 01:13:09,320
Speaker 6: Round two by submission.

1637
01:13:10,000 --> 01:13:12,360
Speaker 5: And again, if the cardio is there and the hunger

1638
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,160
Speaker 5: that was there for the Anthony Smith fight is there

1639
01:13:14,160 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 5: for Glover to share, I fancy him alive underdog as well.

1640
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,479
Speaker 5: All right at Ian Parker MMA on social media, his

1641
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,879
Speaker 5: best bet coming your way after the way and on Friday.

1642
01:13:22,200 --> 01:13:23,760
Speaker 6: Want to know man, good start. We'll talk to you

1643
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:24,240
Speaker 6: next week.

1644
01:13:25,880 --> 01:13:27,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, thanks guys, and a real quick if we don't

1645
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:31,559
Speaker 4: see Anderson Silva in the ufckge ever again, I thought

1646
01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:34,000
Speaker 4: he was winning that fight until he wasn't. To be honest,

1647
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:35,400
Speaker 4: I thought he looked better than he did in a

1648
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,439
Speaker 4: really long time. I think for your Riyah Hall for

1649
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,120
Speaker 4: his next fight, he can't wait that long. He really

1650
01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,559
Speaker 4: can't because that type of style that he was fighting

1651
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:47,240
Speaker 4: doesn't win against top five competition in that division at all.

1652
01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,439
Speaker 4: Not to say that he doesn't have that potential. I'm

1653
01:13:49,479 --> 01:13:51,559
Speaker 4: not asking to change who he is marketing wise. You know,

1654
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,839
Speaker 4: he's really big on just showing the wins.

1655
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,519
Speaker 8: But Hitderson didn't.

1656
01:13:55,320 --> 01:13:56,920
Speaker 4: Really fight bad and Kenny, I saw what you were

1657
01:13:57,000 --> 01:13:59,400
Speaker 4: on Twitter. You were right until he got a little

1658
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:00,280
Speaker 4: impatient and.

1659
01:14:00,200 --> 01:14:03,559
Speaker 8: Got too close. He was winning two rounds to one.

1660
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,519
Speaker 4: So you know, if we do see him again, though,

1661
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 4: I hope it's against another legend that he could kind of,

1662
01:14:10,560 --> 01:14:12,919
Speaker 4: you know, ride off to the sunset with the w potentially.

1663
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,800
Speaker 5: So yeah, you got buddy, Best of luck on the

1664
01:14:15,800 --> 01:14:17,639
Speaker 5: board in the NFL. We'll talk to you next Monday. Yeah,

1665
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,840
Speaker 5: all right, Ian Parker with us for the main event challenge.

1666
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Speaker 5: Don't forget the second s. I'm competing against all these

1676
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Speaker 5: handicappers who do this for a living in the Capper Cup.

1677
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,800
Speaker 5: I'm holding my own, but I don't think I'm gonna

1678
01:14:52,800 --> 01:14:54,200
Speaker 5: win the thing. But I do have a chance to

1679
01:14:54,200 --> 01:14:57,000
Speaker 5: beat our producer Cody Merrow, who now joins us wearing

1680
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Speaker 5: his Tom Brady Buccaneers jersey team Merrow two four and

1681
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,280
Speaker 5: one to add a four and three. So we're taping

1682
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:06,280
Speaker 5: this episode right before the start of Week eight kickoff

1683
01:15:06,280 --> 01:15:07,320
Speaker 5: in thirty three minutes.

1684
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:09,120
Speaker 6: So we have each given you a play already.

1685
01:15:09,320 --> 01:15:12,920
Speaker 5: Cody is on the Chargers I believe minus three, yes sir,

1686
01:15:13,000 --> 01:15:15,439
Speaker 5: and I am on the Buffalo Bills as a three

1687
01:15:15,439 --> 01:15:18,040
Speaker 5: and a half point home favorite against your new England Patriots.

1688
01:15:18,040 --> 01:15:20,759
Speaker 5: So we need one more play for Week eight. Cody Merrow,

1689
01:15:21,120 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 5: who do you have for us?

1690
01:15:22,680 --> 01:15:22,920
Speaker 3: John?

1691
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:24,920
Speaker 9: I feel like we've really been short changing people with

1692
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:28,519
Speaker 9: my just amazing accuracy and picks, so I'm gonna give

1693
01:15:28,520 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 9: people a Monday night play. As you can see by

1694
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:33,200
Speaker 9: my jersey, the New York Giants. They don't rank better

1695
01:15:33,240 --> 01:15:36,120
Speaker 9: than twenty seventh than any offensive category. They face an

1696
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 9: aggressive Todd Bowles defense. They rank the best against the

1697
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,640
Speaker 9: rush and their fourth in the league in takeaways. I

1698
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,839
Speaker 9: like Brady coming in here with a locked and loaded,

1699
01:15:44,000 --> 01:15:46,640
Speaker 9: healthy offense. They rank third in points scored and they

1700
01:15:46,640 --> 01:15:49,599
Speaker 9: haven't even added Antonio Brown yet. Gonna be a ridiculous

1701
01:15:49,680 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 9: year for them. And plus John, we're all Patriots fans here.

1702
01:15:52,720 --> 01:15:55,040
Speaker 9: I fucking hate the New York Giants. Give me Tampa

1703
01:15:55,120 --> 01:15:56,200
Speaker 9: minus twelve and a half.

1704
01:15:57,160 --> 01:15:59,679
Speaker 5: Well laid out, my friend, and that's a pretty good number,

1705
01:15:59,680 --> 01:16:01,439
Speaker 5: twelve and a half. But yeah, I just don't see

1706
01:16:01,439 --> 01:16:04,040
Speaker 5: that in New York Giants offense keeping up. Might have

1707
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:05,760
Speaker 5: to tell you on Monday. But my other play on

1708
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:08,280
Speaker 5: a Sunday is going to be the Miami Dolphins catching

1709
01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:11,000
Speaker 5: three and a half at home against Jared Goff and

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Speaker 5: the La rams La has traveled a lot. They have

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Speaker 5: a lot of wins, but a lot of them are

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Speaker 5: not of a high quality. They've been beaten up on

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Speaker 5: the NFC East. I think Brian Flores is going to

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Speaker 5: have a game plan to keep his offense in it.

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Speaker 5: It's Tua tagov Looa's first NFL start today.

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Speaker 6: He's left handed.

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Speaker 5: I just think this is a good time to back

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Speaker 5: the Dolphins, and you're getting a key number three and

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Speaker 5: a half. So the Miami Dolphins plus three and a

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Speaker 5: half that pick to click for me in week eight.

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Speaker 6: All right, A couple programming reminders.

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Speaker 5: Remember the show will be live this Thursday night with

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Speaker 5: Blam Muhammad and my brother Jason Annik in the co

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Speaker 5: host chair Thursday, eight thirty pm Eastern Time. Guests to

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Speaker 5: be determined and those will come your way on social

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Speaker 5: media this week. Also your homework because Ray Longo said

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Speaker 5: this fan base turns over every four years, and because

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Speaker 5: we got such great response telling people to go watch

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Speaker 5: Kenny Floorian versus Clay Guida. I'm not throwing out the

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Speaker 5: Sean Shirk fight just yet, but just go watch Kenny

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Speaker 5: Florian Joe Lo's on from two thousand and eight main event, Broomfield, Colorado,

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Speaker 5: April second, two thousand and eight. I believe all the

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Speaker 5: stuff that I remember that I don't need to, but

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Speaker 5: UFC Fight Pass dot Com Florian Lowson main event and

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Speaker 5: then hit me up on social media and tell me

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Speaker 5: what you thought of that fight. And see how angry

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Speaker 5: Ken Flow was in a main event setting taking it

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Speaker 5: out on a fellow Bostonian.

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Speaker 6: Cody, do you remember that fight? You were like twelve,

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Speaker 6: probably yeah, yeah, of course, all right, good ground and pound, yeah,

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Speaker 6: of course yeah. I was born in nineteen ninety three,

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Speaker 6: of course I do.

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Speaker 5: But oh, just ground and pound trying to kill a

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Speaker 5: pan Ken Flow and it's prime unbelievable. But we got

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Speaker 5: to get on out of here. We're back with you

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Speaker 5: next Monday. Thanks to everybody who checked out the show,

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Speaker 5: maybe for the first time last week on the heels

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Speaker 5: of UFC two fifty four. Merchandise is available Anna florianpodcast

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Speaker 5: dot com. Thank you to our sponsors, our guest Ray

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Speaker 5: Longo and Ian Parker, and we will be back with

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Speaker 5: you on Monday, November ninth. We'll recap Glover to Share

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Speaker 5: and Thiago Santos. Until then for Cody, Marren, Kenny, Flora

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Speaker 5: and John and saying so long, Thank y'all.

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Speaker 6: Love y'all. Don't text and drive wear a mask unless

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Speaker 6: you're Bryce Mitchell. I respect your Take you.

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Speaker 2: Later, I'm Royal Oaks.

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Speaker 10: Next time, on Too Many Lawyers, we take on a

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Speaker 10: couple of villains to sort out whether bad stuff is

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Speaker 10: also illegal stuff. George Santos want a seat in Congress

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Speaker 10: by lying to voters, but is that a crime? And

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Speaker 10: Kanye West made it clear he hates Jews in England,

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Speaker 10: he go to jail for that. Here in America, did

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Speaker 10: he commit a hate crime? Listen to too many lawyers

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