1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Dirty birds. What's up? And welcome back to the Atlanta 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:05,440 Speaker 1: Falcons podcast Network. I'm your host, Will mcfad and I 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:08,760 Speaker 1: am joined today by Tory mclaney and summer is moving 4 00:00:09,080 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: right along. To Tory, I want to know what's your 5 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: favorite summer snack which been munching on. 6 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:15,640 Speaker 2: So I'm a big fan of an apple on the beach. 7 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:17,919 Speaker 1: Okay, like not just you don't get sand in the 8 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:21,119 Speaker 1: apple now because you hold it like sure, yeah, and 9 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:23,599 Speaker 1: then when you are done, you throw it out of seagull. 10 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 2: Don't hit the seagull. 11 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:27,680 Speaker 1: But like there's wind and like sand does get blown 12 00:00:27,720 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: around from time to time. 13 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I just I do love a specifically an 14 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:34,479 Speaker 2: apple on the beach. It just hits different. Big fan 15 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 2: of some stwabewies, love love strawberries, and then I recently 16 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,640 Speaker 2: have gotten into the like pretzels that are like the 17 00:00:43,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 2: honey mustard flavored pretzels slash the buffalo flavored pretzels. Big 18 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 2: fan of those. I don't know what they're called and 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:55,320 Speaker 2: it's escaping me, but I can chowd down on those. 20 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: No I know exactly what they do have. One of 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: them does have the mustardy flavor to it. I love those. 22 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm not a big pretzel guy in general, You're not, 23 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,479 Speaker 1: I think, I know, I don't know. They're just kind 24 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 1: of bland, like they don't really have a flavor to 25 00:01:07,480 --> 00:01:09,320 Speaker 1: How dare you if I'm getting my sodium ins take, 26 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:11,600 Speaker 1: I can just do like the flavor like chips like 27 00:01:11,600 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: a normal person. 28 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Sure, that's the flavor. 29 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:16,160 Speaker 1: I'm salty enough as it is. I don't think I 30 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:18,640 Speaker 1: need any more sodium. My sodium levels through the roof. 31 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:21,039 Speaker 1: I think I tend more towards like the watermelon, grape 32 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: kind of like those things. Yeah, we're healthy traditional. 33 00:01:23,800 --> 00:01:25,440 Speaker 2: This is a healthy podcast. 34 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 1: I need to hydrate too. In the summer, it's hot. 35 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:30,840 Speaker 1: It's hot down here in Georgia. So we're gonna be 36 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: talking today about, you know, kind of the hottest positions 37 00:01:34,920 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: in football in terms of attitude and demeanor and swag. 38 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: And that's what today is all about, Tori. We're talking about. 39 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 2: Swag, the summer of swag. 40 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: There we go. You want to explain how we kind 41 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: of landed on this idea. It even came. 42 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 2: About, Yes, it was actually from a podcast that we 43 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: did around Mini Camp where we just so happened to 44 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 2: be talking like Who's like, which position group do you 45 00:01:56,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: think is like the swaggiest position group? Because we were 46 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 2: talking about the CoNEXT of like nickel corner and how 47 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:05,720 Speaker 2: you have to have a certain type of demeanor when 48 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 2: you play certain positions and each position kind of has 49 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 2: a slightly different demeanor that you have to have, and 50 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 2: it at the time we were joking. He's like, Oh, 51 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 2: this could be a fun podcast segment could be so much. 52 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:20,240 Speaker 2: It could be cool, like we could argue, throw fists 53 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 2: like it would be fun. And then fast forward to 54 00:02:23,919 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: now us sitting here right now, we're doing it. We're 55 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 2: having this conversation and we are going to be ranking 56 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:33,640 Speaker 2: positions just general not saying that an offensive lineman can't 57 00:02:33,639 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: be swaggy. He surely can, but we're generalizing. 58 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:39,440 Speaker 1: The position of an offensive lineman. 59 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,960 Speaker 2: Do you think of swag Probably not. So we we're 60 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: going to get into this ranking. I'm so excited about it. 61 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 2: Do you want to tell them which what the tiers are, 62 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: because we're doing this in a tier type of listickle. 63 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, So our tiers for our vibe valuations are gods here, 64 00:02:56,880 --> 00:02:59,880 Speaker 1: that's number one. We got swag Master, it's number two, 65 00:03:00,400 --> 00:03:04,079 Speaker 1: low key swag number three, fourth and final Dad swag, 66 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:06,480 Speaker 1: which I lobbied against a little bit. I'd take you 67 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: just after Father's Day. You know, it's just you know, 68 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 1: a few weeks ago. 69 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 2: But it's thick type of swag, you know, like it's 70 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,000 Speaker 2: not a lack of swag. It's a different type of swag. 71 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: Trust me, I don't think anybody sees me and they're. 72 00:03:19,840 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: Like, swag, what what a swag. 73 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:24,360 Speaker 1: Guy that I know my place? I know my place. 74 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,280 Speaker 1: So what we're gonna do is we're gonna draw the 75 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: positions out of or from behind our helmet and that way, 76 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 1: it's all kind of random. We're just we don't know 77 00:03:33,120 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 1: what's coming. We don't know which one we're talking about next, 78 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: and we're just going to get into it and debate 79 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: some swag levels. So you want to do the honors, 80 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: and I. 81 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 2: Would love to. The first one is wide receiver. 82 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: That's a good one to start off with. 83 00:03:49,960 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 2: I feel like this one's one of the easiest ones 84 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 2: we could have started off with in the pool. God 85 00:03:54,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: tear Wide receivers have to have the most swag of positions. 86 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: I feel like on rosters because I disagree with you there, Okay, 87 00:04:04,720 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 2: here's my thing. Is I think they have to have 88 00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 2: the most swag because when you look at the role 89 00:04:10,800 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 2: that they have to play, some of the swaggiest and 90 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:18,040 Speaker 2: coolest people that you'll ever meet on a team are 91 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:21,839 Speaker 2: receivers because they have to carry themselves almost on an island. 92 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,400 Speaker 2: And I think the counter to that is, like cornerbacks 93 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 2: are in the same kind of position. You're going one 94 00:04:27,960 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 2: v one all the time, and in order to kind 95 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: of have the mindset of not being beat or being 96 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:35,919 Speaker 2: beat all the time, you have to have kind of 97 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,479 Speaker 2: this like short memory and mentality of like, oh I 98 00:04:39,480 --> 00:04:41,040 Speaker 2: got beat on this one, no one's gonna come at 99 00:04:41,080 --> 00:04:43,120 Speaker 2: me and beat me again type of thing. You have 100 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 2: to have that mindset as a receiver and as a 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 2: corner too, not to jump the gun. So I'm putting 102 00:04:49,600 --> 00:04:51,680 Speaker 2: receiver in god tear. 103 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,400 Speaker 1: Is there any amount of swag that a player can 104 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: have where they almost go overboard? And the reason I 105 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,000 Speaker 1: ask you this is because when I think about wide receiver, Yeah, 106 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: a lot of them have swag, but sometimes and I 107 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,520 Speaker 1: would argue with receiver more than maybe any other position, 108 00:05:05,080 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: you get like the swag that veers over into just 109 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:12,120 Speaker 1: like pure unbridled craziness, right, at times, right, like Antonio 110 00:05:12,160 --> 00:05:14,920 Speaker 1: Brown or you know any any of those just crazy antics, 111 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,120 Speaker 1: And like, where do you draw the line between that 112 00:05:17,240 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: swag and that's just kind of like crazy? Well, I 113 00:05:20,920 --> 00:05:23,240 Speaker 1: guess the article. Can you have swag without a little 114 00:05:23,240 --> 00:05:23,719 Speaker 1: bit of crazy? 115 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,279 Speaker 2: I think you have to have a little bit of crazy, 116 00:05:25,520 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 2: Like I think you have to in order to be 117 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 2: god tear level swag. You have to have this certain 118 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 2: point of like a point of no return almost, And 119 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: I feel like the people who I often feel like 120 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,360 Speaker 2: have that are these receivers. Like we'll just use Drake 121 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:42,800 Speaker 2: London as an example. Yeah, Drake Lennon very swaggy just 122 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 2: in general in his everyday life. He's a super chill guy, 123 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 2: like has this way about him. He's super cool to 124 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: be around. You get on the field and he's a. 125 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,960 Speaker 1: Maniac super sayan swag from Drake London on Sunday. 126 00:05:55,080 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: So so much of his mentality has to do with kind 127 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 2: of being the best of the best, And I think 128 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: more often than not, you have receivers who are incredibly 129 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 2: vocal about that as well in their abilities. Like you 130 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 2: think back to like Julio, or you look at like 131 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 2: Mike Evans right now and those guys. The way that 132 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 2: they play is these are the guys that are in 133 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 2: the spotlight. Yeah, all the time. Outside of quarterbacks, you're 134 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 2: talking about receivers. Probably right underneath the. 135 00:06:29,279 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: Ball gets thrown to you, all eyes in the building 136 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 1: are looking at you, and there's nobody but you and 137 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:35,400 Speaker 1: the guy that's trying to stop you from doing what 138 00:06:35,400 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 1: you're trying to do. 139 00:06:36,279 --> 00:06:41,039 Speaker 2: So you have to have a different level of mentality 140 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:45,040 Speaker 2: that includes being super cool. Also, let's be real, like 141 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: when we're looking at fitpicks on game days, quarterbacks, receivers, 142 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 2: best game deafens. 143 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,960 Speaker 1: Oh, for sure, in my humble opinion, had to do 144 00:06:54,960 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 1: you replay in my brain. Make sure you said fit 145 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:00,640 Speaker 1: picks and you know, not anything else that we're not. 146 00:07:01,080 --> 00:07:05,800 Speaker 1: We're speaking of some fans here, but not maybe the 147 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: So yeah, that's going to go into the the gods heer. 148 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 1: I totally agree. I think wide receiver belongs in godsier. 149 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 1: So let's go ahead and pull our next position group 150 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 1: and it is, Oh, this will be interesting, head coach, fascinating. 151 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Can how much swag do you want your your head 152 00:07:24,800 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: coach to have? 153 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 2: They have to have a little bit because you're yeah, 154 00:07:28,760 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 2: you're having to talk to players who have a lot 155 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 2: of bit of swag, so you're having to relate to 156 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 2: them on some level. 157 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 1: I think, is it important, though, for you to express 158 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: swag in your introductory press conference or can it be 159 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 1: entirely behind the scenes. 160 00:07:44,680 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 3: No. 161 00:07:44,920 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 2: I think I think that there needs to be at 162 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: least one moment of swagginess, like one moment of just like, ah, 163 00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 2: we made the right. 164 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: Decision at the very least, not one moment where there 165 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,960 Speaker 1: is the opposite feeling where you're like, oh, no, that. 166 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,760 Speaker 2: Was not very swaggy, you don't want to do Yeah, 167 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: And so I think for me, I would put head 168 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:12,360 Speaker 2: coach at low key swag. I wouldn't necessarily put it 169 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 2: at dad swag because even though there are certain coaches 170 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 2: that I feel like have fantastic dad. 171 00:08:16,880 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 1: Swag, Andy Reid and Caliber Dawg. 172 00:08:21,000 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, dadswag, like I think, but I alway, yeah, a 173 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:27,920 Speaker 2: little bit. But then I think of some other guys 174 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:29,120 Speaker 2: like Mike Tomlin. 175 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:32,440 Speaker 1: Oh, he's he's like a swag master, big swag guy. 176 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 2: So I think low key swag is a nice in 177 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 2: the middle of Like, if we're taking the average head 178 00:08:39,559 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 2: football coach at the NFL level, you have some guys 179 00:08:42,200 --> 00:08:44,080 Speaker 2: who are Dad swaggy, you have some guys who are 180 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 2: pretty swag mastery. We'll go right right in the middle 181 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 2: with Loki swag ahead. Coach has to have low key swag. 182 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: This is like sentence score GAMMI over here, Okay. 183 00:08:55,200 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 2: Next one, yep, okay, inside linebacker, Let's go. 184 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 1: God, I'm so glad you're the one asking me this question, 185 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 1: because they are swag masters, if not God t here 186 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 1: I flirted really with God to her swag. Yeah, yeah, 187 00:09:12,440 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: because I think we are. We're not that far removed, 188 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 1: but we act like we are from the days of 189 00:09:19,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: Ray Lewis and Brian Urlacker, true and just all of 190 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:27,360 Speaker 1: these absolute monsters who used to roam the middle of 191 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:30,080 Speaker 1: the field. And I just think that we need to 192 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 1: respect that. For decades, if not centuries, this game was 193 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 1: played with the guy right there in the middle of 194 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 1: the defense being the baddest dude on the field, and 195 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: I think we just need to honor that legacy a 196 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,200 Speaker 1: little bit, and we don't need to dump these guys 197 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 1: down into low key your dad's swag territory. They are 198 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: swag masters, if not God to But here's the. 199 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:53,920 Speaker 2: Thing, is like, is that the game. Now, think about 200 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 2: the game right now and think about the pretty swaggy right, 201 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,560 Speaker 2: he is pretty swaggy, but like that's one guy, you know. 202 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: I feel like kayon Nellis is more like cool and 203 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,280 Speaker 1: laid back, and it's like, well, I also. 204 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: Think that, like you think about the position itself and 205 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 2: how analytically has to be how uh are. 206 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: You saying smart guys can't have swag? 207 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 2: No, I'm not saying smart guys can't have swag. It's 208 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 2: a different type of swag. I would argue it's low 209 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 2: key swag. Okay, So I I think that when you're 210 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 2: looking at the position now, the position has lended itself 211 00:10:27,400 --> 00:10:33,200 Speaker 2: to a different generation of player and archetype of player. 212 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: It's interesting, though, why do you think it is that 213 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,040 Speaker 1: the middle linebacker position kind of maybe did regress a 214 00:10:39,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: little bit in terms. 215 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,440 Speaker 2: Of I think it's because like you lost the shoulder pads, 216 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,440 Speaker 2: you lost you lost the neck, you lost the neck grace, 217 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 2: and there went the swaggeness and. 218 00:10:51,160 --> 00:10:54,160 Speaker 1: We need Brian Bosworth just neck rolls a yeah, like 219 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:56,320 Speaker 1: bring that back that you lost it. 220 00:10:56,360 --> 00:11:00,120 Speaker 2: And now it's more about kind of this swiftness of 221 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,440 Speaker 2: the position, and it's it's just a different type of 222 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:04,719 Speaker 2: a player, like. 223 00:11:04,679 --> 00:11:06,320 Speaker 1: A right. 224 00:11:07,760 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 2: Davis, the guys who are going who's stretching the field 225 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:14,960 Speaker 2: sideline side on Smith right, Like those guys are swaggy, yes, 226 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 2: but they're a bit more Again. 227 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,720 Speaker 1: You'd almost think they'd be more swaggy, though, you would think. 228 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:20,440 Speaker 2: That they would be. But I don't think they're presenting 229 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 2: themselves as like super vocal in the sense of like, oh, 230 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: I think they're a bit more like, oh, yeah, I'm 231 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: the for lack of a better word, you know, like 232 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,320 Speaker 2: I know I'm cool. I don't need to like go 233 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:34,640 Speaker 2: out and prove it to anybody. So it's a bit 234 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 2: more low key, is my thought process. 235 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: No, I I totally get that. That makes a lot 236 00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: of sense. And like Bobby Wagner right, just like could 237 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,680 Speaker 1: have dripped swag if you wanted to. He was he 238 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: was quiet, he was cerebral, and he was more the leader. 239 00:11:47,200 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 1: So yes, it's like the examples, the Luke Keekley's, the 240 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: Bobby Wagner's, those guys kind of are a little bit 241 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:55,319 Speaker 1: of a far cry from those dudes right in the middle. 242 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: But again, you know, I kind of feel so if 243 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:00,120 Speaker 1: if we're gonna let's maybe go to our pretty you 244 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: s for Jared here, yeahs a tiebreaker. I kind of 245 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: see writing in the document there. If you want to 246 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 1: declare our tiebreaker swag master, lowag inside linebackers. What you got, Jared? 247 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,520 Speaker 2: What are you putting at Jared? I'm really curious to 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:19,439 Speaker 2: see what what producer Jared decides. I think he's thinking. 249 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:24,079 Speaker 1: Low key swag. Ye ready, because he's a b y 250 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: you guy. 251 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jared, Jared's a b YU guy. 252 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:29,839 Speaker 1: Okay, we go with low key swag and I'm remembering that. 253 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: Jared remembering that? 254 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:36,439 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, So we got head coach and inside 255 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: linebacker at low key swag. We have wide receivers, God tear. 256 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 2: Is it your turn? Of your turn? 257 00:12:42,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: Pulling? Pulling? Pulling? All right? We have cornerback God freaking 258 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:54,559 Speaker 1: pretty easy. We can tear. Probably move on quickly from 259 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: that one. 260 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,720 Speaker 2: I have literally never met a cornerback that has a 261 00:12:58,040 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 2: like normal brain. I feel like you cannot if you 262 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:03,440 Speaker 2: play that position because, to the same point of what 263 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 2: I was saying about receiver, you are on such an island, 264 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,400 Speaker 2: and every mistake you make or every good thing you do, 265 00:13:10,559 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 2: is highlighted tenfold because you could make one mistake in 266 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 2: a game and people are like, Oh, he had a 267 00:13:14,960 --> 00:13:18,280 Speaker 2: bad game because he messed up on this route concept 268 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:20,600 Speaker 2: or whatever and decided to do something that he wasn't 269 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 2: supposed to do, when you could also have three PBUs 270 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:25,439 Speaker 2: in a game and no one's really talking about They're 271 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:26,959 Speaker 2: just talking about that one mistake because you gave it 272 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 2: a touchdown. So I think the level of mess up, 273 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:35,000 Speaker 2: like the ceiling of messing up, is a lot higher 274 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 2: because so many people see you mess up. And I 275 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,440 Speaker 2: think in order to have the bounce back mentality, you 276 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:43,679 Speaker 2: have to be a little bit unhinged. 277 00:13:44,200 --> 00:13:47,080 Speaker 1: Tori. If you show me a cornerback with an ounce 278 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:49,280 Speaker 1: of empathy, I will show you a cornerback that I 279 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: don't want my team, No, get him out of here. 280 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:55,839 Speaker 1: I want egomaniacs. I want self centered cornerbacks. We're out 281 00:13:55,840 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: there on islands, dukn it out against those crazy divas 282 00:13:58,360 --> 00:14:00,920 Speaker 1: on the offensive side. We're going joker again, joker m hmm. 283 00:14:01,160 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 2: You have to do that. You have to crazy versus crazy. 284 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Crazy likes crazy. 285 00:14:04,559 --> 00:14:06,839 Speaker 2: All right, let's go. Let's go again, because that one 286 00:14:06,920 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: was a very easy one. I think we both that 287 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,880 Speaker 2: was number one. All right, running back this one's very 288 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: interesting because again I actually would say this mimics to 289 00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:22,560 Speaker 2: me inside linebackers. 290 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 1: I see this one more so. I think we're both 291 00:14:26,120 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: on low key swags. 292 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,520 Speaker 2: Low key swag for running backs because I do think, like. 293 00:14:31,160 --> 00:14:34,080 Speaker 1: Sake, you want some workhorse to your your running backs, Yeah. 294 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 2: And you want him to have that quiet confidence about him, 295 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 2: like the guy that's just gonna carry the team on 296 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 2: his back yep, and do it in a way that 297 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:41,480 Speaker 2: you're just like. 298 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: Go give me Frank Gore, Go give me somebody who's 299 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:48,000 Speaker 1: just gonna work tirelessly for like a decade and a 300 00:14:48,040 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: half and just produce. 301 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, think about the three here's the thing. Think about 302 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:53,400 Speaker 2: the three best running backs in the game right now. 303 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 2: Saquon Barkley, Jamier Gibbs and Jean Rojinhson. Those guys have 304 00:14:58,360 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 2: a lot of swag, don't get me wrong, but they 305 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: also carry themselves in a way that's like they're approachable. 306 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, you know they literally low key swag is the 307 00:15:07,320 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: best descriptor maybe for the running back position of like 308 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: any of the discriptions we have. Yeah, great, are there 309 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:14,480 Speaker 1: not in your face about it? Exactly? 310 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 2: They're still swaggy. 311 00:15:16,640 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 1: So now we have onto our next one long snapper whoo, 312 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: which I might know Jared is actually two words. 313 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, a long snapper. We may have our 314 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:28,920 Speaker 2: first Dad swag. 315 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 1: No, God's here for shit. 316 00:15:32,480 --> 00:15:35,280 Speaker 2: I think long snapper and I feel like Liam Culla 317 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,320 Speaker 2: friend of the pod, would soon to be dead, so 318 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 2: soon to be Dad, Yes, actual Dad, who he already 319 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 2: I think has a lot of Dad swag. I don't 320 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:48,720 Speaker 2: know a single long snapper who does not exhibit Dad swag. 321 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: I actually think it's caused for concern if your long 322 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,600 Speaker 1: snapper has anything other than Dad's swag. 323 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:53,880 Speaker 2: One. 324 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't mean a long snapper who's out here trying 325 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 1: to draw attention to himself. 326 00:15:57,280 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: If you had a long snapper who was god teer 327 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:04,720 Speaker 2: life level swag, the amount of out. 328 00:16:04,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: There leading the after the game, I. 329 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:12,680 Speaker 2: Truly think that the world would implode. It's like unnatural. 330 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 2: You know. If it's a long snapper with god tear 331 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 2: level swag, would be the. 332 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: Kids would have a name for him. It would be 333 00:16:21,240 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 1: it would be like snap Daddy or whatever we have. Yeah, 334 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:26,800 Speaker 1: it's just the coolest nickname in the world. So good. 335 00:16:26,880 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 2: Okay, let's do this again. Defensive tackle. This one's interesting. 336 00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is a good one too, because saying all of. 337 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,680 Speaker 2: Them, I know, defensive tackle is the one. I will 338 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 2: be honest with you. As I was thinking about all 339 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 2: the positions, defensive tackle was actually the one that I 340 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 2: had the most issues putting into a category. 341 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:52,120 Speaker 1: It was the one I think I could debate the 342 00:16:52,160 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: most ways. 343 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I could. 344 00:16:53,920 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: You could tell make an argument for any single one, 345 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,160 Speaker 1: maybe outside of God's here, but yeah, but yeah I could. 346 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 3: I lean a little bit towards Dad swag. Wow, I 347 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 3: lean a little bit towards Dad swag because I kind 348 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,120 Speaker 3: of think Aaron Donald alone, true. 349 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,960 Speaker 1: That man did I won't, I won't recall the whole thing, 350 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:18,880 Speaker 1: but that man did something inside of Mercedes Benz Stadium 351 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: at a game against a former Falcon Den alone takes 352 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 1: me out of that. 353 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: Also, now that I say that aloud, and now that 354 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 2: you've put me in my place where I needed to 355 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:31,080 Speaker 2: be put, I think Grady Jarrett would actually rip me 356 00:17:31,119 --> 00:17:34,160 Speaker 2: a new one if he said if I said that 357 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:36,920 Speaker 2: he had Dad swag or even played in a position 358 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: that had Dad swag. 359 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's tough. I think low key swag is the 360 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,040 Speaker 1: lowest it could be. Yeah, and that is where Ultimately, 361 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: I think I landed with it. 362 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. 363 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think it's Swagmaster, a low key swag 364 00:17:50,000 --> 00:17:51,160 Speaker 1: and I kind of think. 365 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:54,320 Speaker 2: That here's the thing. If I'm if I'm putting inside 366 00:17:54,400 --> 00:17:56,960 Speaker 2: linebacker at low key swag, I have to put defensive 367 00:17:56,960 --> 00:17:57,720 Speaker 2: tackle at low key. 368 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 1: I think so too. Yeah, yeah, man, we don't really 369 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: have any swag swag Masters. It's kind of all or 370 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:03,600 Speaker 1: nothing or it's just the luck of the draw so. 371 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: Far, that's true. We have we have a little bit 372 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: left to do, so all right, safety Yeah, okay, So 373 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:17,400 Speaker 2: my thing with safety is and this was a conversation 374 00:18:17,440 --> 00:18:19,320 Speaker 2: that we actually had before we were even doing this 375 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,040 Speaker 2: is because we were going back and forth between the 376 00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 2: difference between aura and swag and I said, there are 377 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,840 Speaker 2: certain position groups that I think have an aura about them. 378 00:18:29,000 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 2: It's not necessarily swagginess. It's it's more of just like 379 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 2: a state of being, and that honestly has kind of 380 00:18:39,560 --> 00:18:43,240 Speaker 2: shifted as we're ranking. That shift to me has gone 381 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,840 Speaker 2: along with like swag Master. And so I would put 382 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 2: safety in swag Master because they have the upside of 383 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:56,359 Speaker 2: being super like swaggy out on an island type of 384 00:18:56,440 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 2: guy who just gets stuff done. But then they also 385 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 2: have this like low key thing where they're like, you know, 386 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 2: sometimes like things are happening in front of them and 387 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,199 Speaker 2: they're just like, yeah, you'll handle it. 388 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 1: The safety position me maybe more than any other position, 389 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:13,160 Speaker 1: is like the Jedi. It's like you've got the sith 390 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:15,400 Speaker 1: or you've got like the actual Jedi, and you either 391 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,240 Speaker 1: have like a Tyron Matthew just kind of like crazy, 392 00:19:18,359 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: I'm running all around the field, or like I'm a 393 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:23,120 Speaker 1: cam Chancellor trying to take your head off every single time. 394 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 1: They're on the dark side, they're just out for evil. 395 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:29,000 Speaker 1: Then you've got the cool, calm collected like yes you 396 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: will let us in like they're doing mind tricks on 397 00:19:31,400 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: like the quarterback position, right, and that's your Jesse Bates, 398 00:19:34,160 --> 00:19:37,399 Speaker 1: that's you know, Earl Thomas, like those types of players. 399 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: It's really you wrote about fire and Ice with Billy 400 00:19:39,640 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: Bowman and Xavir Watts. It is that more than maybe 401 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 1: any other position, the safety position. So I like swag master, 402 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 1: be a master of both. 403 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, either a Jedi master or Sith Lord. 404 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: One get one or the other. All right, Oh yes, you're. 405 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:02,439 Speaker 2: Also do you like my little like noises that maybe smelevator. Quarterback. 406 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: Ooh, okay, QB, this one. This is I'm interesting to 407 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: see where you go with this, So why don't you 408 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:08,840 Speaker 1: go first? 409 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 2: Okay? Quarterback. I also had in the same category as safety. 410 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:17,120 Speaker 1: Wow, okay, because I. 411 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:23,440 Speaker 2: Kind of thought that you you need to have all 412 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,199 Speaker 2: eyes are on you, so you need to have a 413 00:20:26,359 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: level of accountability with your own self and also ability 414 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 2: to lead. And I think a lot of like a 415 00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: lot of the best leaders have like the charisma of 416 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 2: being leaders. I think that's what makes them good leaders 417 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 2: is you have to have a little bit of charisma 418 00:20:42,520 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 2: and you have to be able to win people over. 419 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:46,159 Speaker 2: And I think some of the best quarterbacks kind of 420 00:20:46,280 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 2: have that nature about them, and that I do, in 421 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 2: this sense of football associate with swagginess. So like I 422 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 2: wouldn't put them at god teer because you don't always 423 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,040 Speaker 2: see them have this god till tier level of swag. 424 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:09,320 Speaker 2: But I would say eight times out of ten, regardless 425 00:21:09,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 2: of who the quarterback is, he has to have that 426 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 2: in order to be successful at the position. Sure, that's 427 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: my that's my point. 428 00:21:19,359 --> 00:21:23,040 Speaker 1: I just don't know if I feel comfortable putting a 429 00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:27,920 Speaker 1: position once manned by Chad Pennington and Peyton Manning, and. 430 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: That's not what the game is. All those Jake Daniels, 431 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts. 432 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: Daniel and Jones, Okay, the Derek Carr, Like what are 433 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:40,639 Speaker 1: we doing here? I don't know if they're swag masters. 434 00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:44,400 Speaker 1: If anything, I think no other position should encapsulate low 435 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:48,480 Speaker 1: key swag ideally than quarterback. All the Jalen Hurts low 436 00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: key swag, Josh Allen low key swag, Lamar Jackson low 437 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,760 Speaker 1: key they're not talked about in those ways. 438 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 2: But here's the thing is I see like that is 439 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,880 Speaker 2: like it's yeah, way they carry themselves, But you think 440 00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 2: about also the way other people look at them and 441 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 2: talk about them, like, oh, I'm following that guy to 442 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 2: the ends of the earth. 443 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 1: But I think that's low key swag. I think I 444 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: think if you're out here like talking all the time, 445 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 1: hyping yourself up, is like I need to have all 446 00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,280 Speaker 1: this swag and look at me like that actually comes 447 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: off as the wrong way for a quarterback. If you're 448 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 1: kind of talking about yourself too much, which I think 449 00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,240 Speaker 1: you have to to be a swag master. You gotta 450 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: want that spotlight and draw it on yourself and kind 451 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: of turn it to you a little bit. Yeah, for 452 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback, I think that right mixes low key swag. 453 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: It's like you got the confidence you step into the huddle, 454 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:35,359 Speaker 1: but everybody's looking at you because you have low key swag, 455 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,000 Speaker 1: not because you're like, look at me. I got feathers 456 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,119 Speaker 1: on my head and I'm just calling all attention to myself. 457 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,359 Speaker 2: Fair. Fair, we can put him, we can put I can. 458 00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,159 Speaker 1: You're trying to fill up swag Master. There's only you 459 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: know one, there's only one. 460 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 2: Really, am trying to fill a. 461 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,119 Speaker 1: Low key swag positions? I know, Yeah in football according 462 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:51,879 Speaker 1: to us, I don't know, JAREDA. You got you got 463 00:22:51,880 --> 00:22:53,200 Speaker 1: any take on that one way or the other. You 464 00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: feel strongly about quarterbacks? Oh love it? Oh yeah, low 465 00:22:57,880 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: key swag because swag Master is too much. Okay, well said, 466 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 1: well said, thank you for your insight. All right, So 467 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 1: you drew that one, right, I'm not jumping the gun. 468 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 1: Mm hm cool? 469 00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:15,640 Speaker 2: Holder? 470 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:20,199 Speaker 1: Why do I keep looking at that camera? Holder? Holder 471 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: is the position? 472 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:23,040 Speaker 2: Here's the thing. 473 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: Question is it's more of a role role. 474 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 2: It's a role it like and you oftentimes at the 475 00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:35,200 Speaker 2: college level you'll see quarterbacks the holder yeat the level 476 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 2: that we're in now, Bradley, Like your punter usually. 477 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:41,800 Speaker 1: Was the swag of the role dependent upon the position 478 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 1: occupying the role. Yes, okay. So so if if if 479 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:48,239 Speaker 1: Jesse Bates went out there and held for young Way 480 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:50,440 Speaker 1: Cup and it would be it would be a slag 481 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: master role. 482 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 2: Yes, okay, I think this. The older holder is a 483 00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:55,200 Speaker 2: revolving swag. 484 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: If Raheem Morris is out there holding it's low key swag. 485 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 2: Yeah, rotating swag dependent upon the position the holder. 486 00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:06,880 Speaker 1: The swag is in the eye of the holder. There 487 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,040 Speaker 1: you go. I was trying were like eight there. It 488 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: was close. 489 00:24:10,920 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'll give that one to you. 490 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Judges, judges, thank you. 491 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 2: Let's pull the crowd edge rusher. 492 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Yes, let's go edge rush this. This is a swag master. 493 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:28,639 Speaker 2: Swag master for sure. I don't have anything more to 494 00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 2: say other than they have their own celebrations. Yes, you know, 495 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 2: like every you know you always see like, oh the corners, 496 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,640 Speaker 2: like the lockdown thing or the like I see. 497 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:42,160 Speaker 1: Your I do. I'm a big fan of the same. 498 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: That's how you know corners are God's here because buckling 499 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 1: your seatbelt has never looked as cool as when they 500 00:24:48,840 --> 00:24:50,680 Speaker 1: do it. Safety has never looked as cool. 501 00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:55,080 Speaker 2: Safety within the safeties in the corners. So with ed rusher, 502 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 2: the fact that like guys have their own sticks, like 503 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: Kalaias Campbell with the a S fall swing, Matthew Judan 504 00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:05,919 Speaker 2: with the like wiping Grady jar with Honestly he. 505 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Didn't really do it was more like scream. 506 00:25:10,920 --> 00:25:13,879 Speaker 2: But it was always Dave Archers like you shall not pass. 507 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:17,440 Speaker 2: Like there are just marquee things that I think each 508 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:21,080 Speaker 2: edge rusher, especially the ones that are like really producing 509 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:22,679 Speaker 2: at a high level when you're talking about like Pro 510 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 2: Bowl caliber guys, those are the ones that they all 511 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 2: have a thing. They all have a thing, which I 512 00:25:28,160 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 2: guess Grady jar that he's not an edge rusher that 513 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,600 Speaker 2: was stupid at comparison, but like you know, but they 514 00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 2: have their thing, right, and I think because of that 515 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:38,880 Speaker 2: they're swag masters. 516 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,920 Speaker 1: Do you think that kind of those celebration dances are 517 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,000 Speaker 1: the NFL's equivalent for an edge rusher to like getting 518 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: an NBA shoe line. Do you think you have to 519 00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:50,800 Speaker 1: have one of those that is almost like identifiable to 520 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: be like, oh and now you're you're in that separate 521 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:54,200 Speaker 1: tier as an edge rusher. 522 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe I also think that have you ever seen 523 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 2: like the tiktoks of the guys who would do like 524 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 2: the batting stances of certain players in Major League Baseball? 525 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 2: I think like and yeah, yeah, I think it's more 526 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:13,200 Speaker 2: of like a calling card, like a very specific calling 527 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:14,800 Speaker 2: card than maybe like, oh. 528 00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: Because it's signature. 529 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, Like I think that in each person, I 530 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 2: don't think it means that you've reached a level. 531 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,000 Speaker 1: Should they do glove lines for wide receivers? Sorry, I'm 532 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: all over the place. Well, I was just thinking about 533 00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 1: merchandise pin. 534 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,720 Speaker 2: In that conversation. But I do think it's like an 535 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 2: individual thing, and I don't think you have to reach 536 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,439 Speaker 2: a certain level of like a dresser in order to 537 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: have like your own thing. 538 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:40,960 Speaker 1: That's that's fair, all right. Next one is kick slash 539 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: punt returner. 540 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 2: I think you have to have. I think they're a 541 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:46,040 Speaker 2: bit uh swag mastery. 542 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,879 Speaker 1: They are swag mastery. Yeah, absolutely. 543 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 2: I think that they have to be able to carry themselves. 544 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,640 Speaker 1: I think just catching a ball, like we just being 545 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:01,600 Speaker 1: able to talk about being in the spotlight, the balls 546 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:03,199 Speaker 1: up in the air. You're the only it's like it's 547 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: coming to me. 548 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Literally, there are only right lights on you and you 549 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 2: have to handle that, and then you know that there 550 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:12,960 Speaker 2: are two hundred and fifty pounds men all out sprinting 551 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:13,240 Speaker 2: at you. 552 00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,919 Speaker 1: It's the definition of like you have one job on 553 00:27:16,000 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: the holder, Like you have one job. 554 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,679 Speaker 2: You have one job, and it's to like try and 555 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 2: get past these people. 556 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 1: I would argue, it's just a guesting ball in and 557 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:24,639 Speaker 1: of itself is hard gosh. 558 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:29,199 Speaker 2: Okay, So swag Master for kick punt returning, yeap, okay, 559 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,160 Speaker 2: tight end, tight end my old position. Okay. So this 560 00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,719 Speaker 2: is another one that I think is very reminiscent of 561 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:40,440 Speaker 2: inside linebackers where the position has changed. If you're talking 562 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,960 Speaker 2: about tight end of fifteen twenty years ago, I would 563 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 2: say Dad swag immediately. However, I don't know if you 564 00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:51,959 Speaker 2: can say that with George Kittle, Travis Kelce, like Kyle Pitts. 565 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: I think it's low key swash. 566 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 2: Low key swash. 567 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, because I and the only reason I think 568 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,040 Speaker 1: it is low key swag. I actually think you're right. 569 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,719 Speaker 1: It's trending towards like swag master, right, more than it 570 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: is Dad swag. But you do still have you know 571 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,080 Speaker 1: your Charlie warners, no, no shot to Charlie Warner, but 572 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,280 Speaker 1: it's like he's not a swag master. Yeah, right, so 573 00:28:09,560 --> 00:28:12,080 Speaker 1: you tight end the duality of that position still lends 574 00:28:12,119 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: itself to to that. 575 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, we have two left. I'm gonna do both 576 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 2: of these. 577 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: Punter punter. I think, you know what, I really really 578 00:28:21,240 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: personally want to put it in god t here because 579 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: I just think that's so funny. And Johnny Hecker is 580 00:28:25,080 --> 00:28:25,960 Speaker 1: my personal God. 581 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,760 Speaker 2: So no, put them in god t Heer punter has 582 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 2: to be in Dad swag. 583 00:28:30,920 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: It's it's obviously in Dad swags, but I just wanted 584 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 1: to give a shout. 585 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 2: Out, okay in this. Honestly, I think this is a 586 00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 2: good one to end on offensive line. 587 00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's uh contains multitudes. 588 00:28:44,520 --> 00:28:49,520 Speaker 2: But ultimately, ultimately, if you're thinking of an offensive lineman, 589 00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 2: this stereotypical offensive lineman Dad swag absolutely like and there's 590 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:57,040 Speaker 2: no there's no if ans or butts about it, Like 591 00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 2: this was the easiest one. 592 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, and if if there is a swag on an 593 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: offensive line, it's going to be country boy swag. 594 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:05,920 Speaker 2: Good point. So, like, I don't know Matthew Matthew bergeron 595 00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 2: for sure, he's. 596 00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 1: I think I'm me. I'm speaking purely in generalities across 597 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 1: the league generally, you're you're kind of getting that, so yeah, 598 00:29:13,400 --> 00:29:16,320 Speaker 1: that that falls into more the dad's wag vibe anyway, 599 00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:19,440 Speaker 1: So I think offensive line with you. 600 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 2: That was I think that was it. 601 00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: That was it. That was it. We emptied the Cup. 602 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:26,200 Speaker 1: We did a good job. So thank you guys so 603 00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: much for going on this journey with us. It was 604 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:32,000 Speaker 1: it was like a totally random thought exercise. How'd you 605 00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 1: think it went? 606 00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 2: I liked it. I had fun. I'm curious to see 607 00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 2: what the people think if they want us to do 608 00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 2: more rankings. I really liked the like blind rankings of 609 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,360 Speaker 2: it all. And I honestly think next time we do this, 610 00:29:42,400 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 2: if we ever do it, we should only you can 611 00:29:44,600 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 2: only have three spots in each something. 612 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, like we have to meet certain criteria or thresholds 613 00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:51,120 Speaker 1: or prose. 614 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:54,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be so next time if we bring 615 00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 2: this back in another way and we're ranking, I think 616 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:00,080 Speaker 2: blind rankings within the tier system. 617 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, if you guys have any suggestions for games or 618 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,800 Speaker 1: types of conversations or any any type of content you'd 619 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: like see on the show, let us know. I mean 620 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: that's kind of what this period has been it's summer, 621 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:11,360 Speaker 1: we can come up with some fun ideas and this 622 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: is one of them. So we hope to do a 623 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:14,920 Speaker 1: lot more stuff like that next year. But we've got 624 00:30:14,920 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 1: training camp just a couple of weeks away, so get excited. 625 00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:19,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be a lot of fun. We've got 626 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: an interview with Ben Solak coming next week to kind 627 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: of tide you over between now and then. But it's 628 00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: great deep dive. If you want to get smarter about 629 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: Falcons football, please go listen to that. But anything else 630 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: you want to mention before we get out of here. 631 00:30:31,120 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 2: Sorry, I think this conversation proved that Will and I 632 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,880 Speaker 2: are not swaggy. 633 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: Nope, Dad swag all the way. I low key swag. 634 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: You're higher than me. 635 00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,960 Speaker 2: Thank you. I'll take low key swag. I'll take it. 636 00:30:42,560 --> 00:30:44,320 Speaker 2: I don't know if I could go much higher than. 637 00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: That multiple time award winner. That's low key swag in 638 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 1: my book. Thank you all right, Thank you guys so 639 00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: much for listening. For Tory mclaney, I'm Will McFadden. We'll 640 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:52,760 Speaker 1: see you next time.