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Speaker 2: Welcome into the weekend. I'm adam oslind k Fig is

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Speaker 2: out tonight. I think, who knows, maybe he'll make an appearance.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what happens. I got a good show for

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Speaker 2: you though. Coming up second hour, Kirk Morrison. I think

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Speaker 2: you know him from Fox Sports Radio. He was here

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Speaker 2: for some years, former Raider. Now he's hanging out with

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Speaker 2: them in Las Vegas. Kirk Morrison, a former linebacker, now

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Speaker 2: on the radio call as the color analyst. He'll talk

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Speaker 2: about what happened tonight. Max Crosby was traded to the Ravens.

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Speaker 2: But there's a lot more else to get to. In fact,

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Speaker 2: Vinnie Bonsignor's coming up in the very next segment from Vegas.

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Speaker 2: We will have him on to talk about the Raiders too.

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Speaker 2: I don't care that I have this SoundBite that I

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Speaker 2: play all the time about them. The Raiders suck, not tonight. Okay,

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Speaker 2: the Raiders are hot. They're so hot right now. The

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Speaker 2: Raiders of the story.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders suck, the coaches suck, the players suck.

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Speaker 2: Everybody in that build. They suck, and I'm pissed off. Yeah, Well,

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Speaker 2: we're still gonna talk about them and the Ravens. Don't worry.

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Speaker 2: NFL news will be had here, but you know with me, yeah,

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Speaker 2: yeah yeah, NFLF with me, with me, you're probably gonna

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Speaker 2: hear some movie news. I have to talk about one

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Speaker 2: of the craziest movie props that is being auctioned off.

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Speaker 2: That'll be later this hour. We'll talk about the Lakers

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Speaker 2: Lebron passing Kareem, most shots made, most shots made in

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Speaker 2: NBA history? Is that significant? Does it mean anything? Did

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Speaker 2: he have you know, far more time to do it?

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Speaker 2: How is he at forty one versus Kareem of Duel Jabbar.

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Speaker 2: We'll get to all of it, but I need to

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Speaker 2: talk about something that happened to me tonight because I'm

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Speaker 2: already upset. Let's go first off.

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Speaker 3: That's wrong.

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Speaker 2: You know sometimes in sports we put these parameters around teams.

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Speaker 2: We think it's gonna go by what we've seen before,

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Speaker 2: past experience, and we put limitters on them. We put

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Speaker 2: governors on teams. We say when it's going to be

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Speaker 2: their time, they're time to shine, their time to win

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Speaker 2: it all. We look at teams and their life cycle

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Speaker 2: of their franchise and how they drafted and when these

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Speaker 2: guys are going to be in their prime and whether

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Speaker 2: or not at that point they can win it all, well,

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Speaker 2: I think we may have all been a little bit

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Speaker 2: late when it comes to the San Antonio Spurs, and

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Speaker 2: I think I found out the hard way tonight. Yes,

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Speaker 2: I've understood how good they have been this season. I've

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Speaker 2: talked about San Antonio a ton I mentioned they beat

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Speaker 2: the OKC Thunder three times in twelve days and they

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Speaker 2: should have been on the map for you. Then, Well, tonight,

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Speaker 2: I think I just saw one of the worst losses

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Speaker 2: in NBA history, at least to my team. The San

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Speaker 2: Antonio Spurs just came back on the Clippers down twenty

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Speaker 2: five with nine minutes left in the third quarter. And

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Speaker 2: maybe that was them announcing to everyone yet we're not

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Speaker 2: waiting our turn. We can win the whole damn thing now.

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Speaker 2: Whether or not you like that don't matter. We're second

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Speaker 2: in the West and we just had one of the

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Speaker 2: most improbable wins of the season. And you want to

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Speaker 2: talk about never tell me the odds.

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Speaker 1: Never tell me the odds.

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Speaker 2: You may know I work on the Clippers radio side.

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Speaker 2: We were on the losing end of that one. It

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Speaker 2: went from maybe their best victory of the season if

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Speaker 2: they won in San Antonio, as they played their best

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Speaker 2: half of basketball. But there's two halves. There's twenty four

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Speaker 2: minutes in the second half, and after the Clippers were

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Speaker 2: up by twenty in the first half, there was this

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Speaker 2: stat going around where, let me see if I got

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Speaker 2: this right, they were one hundred and eight in zero

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Speaker 2: when leading by twenty at the half in their franchise's history.

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Speaker 2: Never tell me the odds, I think that's what Victor

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Speaker 2: Wmenyama said.

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Speaker 4: Never tell me the odds.

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Speaker 2: Because San Antonio rallied and they were on the second

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Speaker 2: night of a back to back. Now it doesn't mean

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Speaker 2: as much when you have a team with all the

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Speaker 2: youth and athleticism that they have and an alien. I

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Speaker 2: don't know, do aliens have problems with back to backs?

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Speaker 2: Because that's what Victor Womenyama is. And yes, the Clippers

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Speaker 2: watched the game at the end in embarrassing fashion with

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Speaker 2: an inbounds play where it was a give and go

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Speaker 2: or a little two man game between Nico Batoum and

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Speaker 2: Brook Lopez. Nico inbounds it to Brook, who plays hot

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Speaker 2: sixteen seconds left. My god, I'd never seen anything like

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Speaker 2: it before. Yes, the Clippers had to pretend that they

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Speaker 2: were allergic to the basketball later when they wouldn't rebound

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Speaker 2: misfree throws by the San Antonio Spurs. So the Spurs

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Speaker 2: had a lot going in their favor. They needed some help.

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Speaker 2: But you also make your own luck. And I don't

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Speaker 2: care how young they are at this point. They're here now.

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Speaker 2: The future is now. I don't know how long Victor

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Speaker 2: woman Yama can play at this level, given his size

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Speaker 2: and injury history. With big men and guys who you

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Speaker 2: know are seven to five or above, they have a

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Speaker 2: short shelf life in the league. They do, they don't

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Speaker 2: tend to stick around and stay healthy forever. Oh I

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Speaker 2: hope he does. It's unlikely, it's improbable. San Antonio might

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Speaker 2: as well go for it now. I'm not saying they

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Speaker 2: made a mistake not trading for Yannis at the trade deadline.

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Speaker 2: I think they may have perfected the two timelines theory

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Speaker 2: that the Golden State Warriors tried for years. We got

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Speaker 2: guys who are in their prime Dearren Fox in this case,

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Speaker 2: and then we got young guys who are still turning

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Speaker 2: a corner. They haven't reached their prime. But we can

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Speaker 2: meld it all together and we can have this long

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Speaker 2: run of sustained success and maybe a window of opportunity

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Speaker 2: within ten years to win multiple championships. You may have

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Speaker 2: heard of the Oklahoma City Thunder. They were last year's champions.

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Speaker 2: They're young, they're still great, and San Antonio beat them

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Speaker 2: three times in twelve days. San Antonio has won fourteen

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Speaker 2: of fifteen. They're the hottest team in the league right

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Speaker 2: now by far, and they just won a game down

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Speaker 2: twenty five with nine minutes left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 2: It's not easy. It's one of the biggest comebacks, certainly

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Speaker 2: on the second night of a back to back. And

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Speaker 2: I know they're young, but that was different. That was

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Speaker 2: them announcing they're here, they're ready. We can win now.

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Speaker 2: Don't put limits on us, don't tell us this isn't

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Speaker 2: going to be our year. We have to wait for

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Speaker 2: a little bit more seasoning. We've never seen this team

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs before they could collapse. Maybe maybe all

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Speaker 2: their young guys are playoff droppers. Instead of risers. Maybe

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Speaker 2: that's the case. I don't know. I tend to think

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Speaker 2: Victor Weman Yama is going to rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you've seen him in big moments

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Speaker 2: that wants to be the face of the league, the

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Speaker 2: non American player that can take over the mantle of

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Speaker 2: being the face of the league for years to come.

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Speaker 2: Seems to embrace it. He also embraces the villain role.

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Speaker 2: He's going after chet Holmgren, his comparison, his player comp

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Speaker 2: and he's basically saying, yeah, he's a he's the Beamer,

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Speaker 2: I'm the Bens. I think that was the line from

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Speaker 2: Shaq with Alonso Morning back in the day. If he

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Speaker 2: gets this much, I get this much on my contract.

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Speaker 1: Played that to me and his money.

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Speaker 2: Well, they don't have to pay Victor women Yama right now.

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Speaker 2: But there's a point here that there's levels to this.

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Speaker 2: Victor women Yama wants everybody to know that he's better

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Speaker 2: than the guy you've been comparing him to, and he

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Speaker 2: takes it personally like Michael Jordan. Whenever they play, he's

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Speaker 2: seen clapping when chet Holmgren's missing free throws. He's doing

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Speaker 2: psychouts out there. He wants to be the villain, and

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Speaker 2: it's not a bad position for him to be in

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Speaker 2: because we don't have a lot of great rivalries in

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Speaker 2: the NBA right now. You may be one of those

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Speaker 2: people that you know, you're wondering when there's going to

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Speaker 2: be some more nastiness and physicality out there. I think

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Speaker 2: we've had like five fights the last month, the last

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Speaker 2: two weeks. Maybe I don't know. Is Beef stew Isaiah

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Speaker 2: Stewart still suspended he would have he was going after.

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Speaker 2: Was it Miles Bridges with the Charlotte Hornets. We've had

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Speaker 2: some bruja haas. We've had some animosity, some good old

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Speaker 2: fashioned hate between teams, and I think OKAYC and San

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Speaker 2: Antonio they got some of that, and it's Victor woman

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Speaker 2: Yama doing it. It's all him. He wants to get

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Speaker 2: back to not play an aau ball where everybody likes

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Speaker 2: each other. That's the stigma, that's the narrative around the NBA,

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Speaker 2: true or not, ei they're all just buddy buddy their

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Speaker 2: friends out there. Not lately, Kuys have been getting after

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Speaker 2: each other, and I think it's a sign of it's

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Speaker 2: Victor women Yama's league. He's the top five player. Now

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Speaker 2: you can make the argument with how good he is defensively,

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Speaker 2: where he's like Ed Reid, he'd cover half the field.

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Speaker 2: Victor women Yama covers half the court. He's special, He's

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Speaker 2: a one of one. He's a unicorn. He's an alien.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anything like it. People want to compare

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Speaker 2: him to Ralph Samson. We've seen women Yama before, No,

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Speaker 2: you haven't. I know old heads out there will always

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Speaker 2: make that comparison. Ralph Sampson took like fifty threes in

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Speaker 2: his career. Well, it's not his fault. They weren't taking

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Speaker 2: threes back then, Okay, but can we say for sure

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Speaker 2: that he'd be able to make them? And you're hypothetical

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Speaker 2: know Wemby does I know? Wemby is taking fade away

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Speaker 2: at seven five. I don't know why he needs to

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Speaker 2: do that. Nobody can block it anyways, And he hit

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Speaker 2: a big one against the Clippers late in this ballgame. Too.

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Speaker 2: That wasn't just him. Initially everybody said, oh, you know what,

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Speaker 2: maybe they shouldn't have got dearon Fox because now they

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Speaker 2: can draft Dylan Harper and they have a glut of

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Speaker 2: guards and a surplus and too many and actually it's

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Speaker 2: a bad thing. No, we were wrong.

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Speaker 1: Am I wrong?

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 2: Happy twenty eighth anniversary to big Lebowski? Is that what

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Speaker 2: we're celebrating tonight? I think I heard that a little

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Speaker 2: bit earlier from Jason Smith. You have to use so

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Speaker 2: many cuss words. Nobody was swearing FCC regulations, My man.

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Speaker 2: It's not an issue having too many guards, especially against

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Speaker 2: OKC like we saw when they beat him three times

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Speaker 2: in twelve days. Yes, I'll keep referencing it. It was special.

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Speaker 2: It was supposed to put you on notice with san Antonio.

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Speaker 2: It was their coming out party. They beat him in

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Speaker 2: the nd season tournament. Oh you don't care about the

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Speaker 2: n season tournament? Okay, I don't either. But it was

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Speaker 2: a good game and the guys seemed to be playing

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Speaker 2: harder for it than san Antonio lost in New York

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Speaker 2: and people forgot again. Ah, they're not ready. Keep saying

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Speaker 2: they're not ready. Charles Barkley said it not this year. No,

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Speaker 2: it can't be this year. Why why not? Dylan Harper's

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Speaker 2: a rookie. I understand that Stefan Castle looks great in

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Speaker 2: the second season. No sophomore slump there. The Aaron Fox

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Speaker 2: has some seasoning. He's been in a playoff series before

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Speaker 2: for the Sacramento Kings when they lost in seven games

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Speaker 2: as Steph Curry dropped fifty on him. I think with

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Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors to get out of that first round,

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Speaker 2: I didn't say. They are flipping narratives. They are opening eyes.

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Speaker 2: maybe they like the bulletin board material, maybe it fuels

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Speaker 2: I saw tonight. That's championship level stuff. Young teams like

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Speaker 2: knows it's this glaring weakness and they'd never pick up

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Speaker 2: and their offense looks like nineteen nineties basketball. We don't

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Speaker 2: San Antonio, it's Okay see and then look, if Denver

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Speaker 2: enough time to build up continuity? Even if Aaron Gordon

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there's enough time. I'm not giving

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Speaker 2: top of the Western Conference, and San Antonio saying, well,

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Speaker 2: maybe young, maybe they're dumb enough to realize that there's

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Speaker 2: that irrational confidence. When I talk about being dumb out there,

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Speaker 2: if they're not even thinking about it like that? Sure inexperienced,

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Speaker 2: plenty of unknowns. Wemby. What if he starts settling too

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Speaker 2: Sports Alone on. Kirk Morrison, former linebacker with the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: The Raiders suck.

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Speaker 2: Hey not today, Okay, they're making moves necessary once in fact,

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Speaker 1: Fans drinking dude, Thank you, joby well.

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Speaker 2: I thought Vincent Valentine from Final Fantasy n was my

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Speaker 2: the California Post tonight senior NFL columnists, and of course

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Speaker 2: twenty am. And that's also the calls. Vinnie, thanks for

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Speaker 7: I appreciate it. I've been Vinnie Barbarino, Vinnie Terra Terranova,

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Speaker 2: Well, Vince Lombardi probably wouldn't want this guy to have

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Speaker 2: he ends up going to the Ravens. How did this

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Speaker 7: Well? I me know I today, right now, he's going

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Speaker 7: Tom Brady are to get this thing turned around, but

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Speaker 7: when they do, where am I going to be? How

429
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Speaker 7: old am I going to be? How many more great

430
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Speaker 7: years am I going to have left, so he was

431
00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,160
Speaker 7: understandable from his perspective. Does that rub some Raider fans

432
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Speaker 7: the wrong way? Probably, You know fans are going to

433
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Speaker 7: stand so I think reasonable fans can see it from

434
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Speaker 7: his perspective and from the Raiders perspective, you know, this

435
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 7: is a chance to kind of really clean slate, like

436
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 7: like they have. It's down to the bare bolts right

437
00:25:57,359 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 7: now outside of Ashton Gent and Brock Bauers and some

438
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,359
Speaker 7: good young players. But you know, this is a clean

439
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 7: slate for them to really start this rebuild. And they

440
00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,879
Speaker 7: have a whole bunch of money under the capitol, but

441
00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:11,159
Speaker 7: to catch to spend a lot of jobt capital, the

442
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,600
Speaker 7: most draft capital in the NFL to put towards this rebuild.

443
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 7: Now it's on them to start making some good decisions

444
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Speaker 7: to make it work.

445
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Speaker 2: How much was this compared to the Micah Parson's trade

446
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:24,600
Speaker 2: and just the value you got, Like is there a

447
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:28,119
Speaker 2: juxtaposition where people are looking side by side and seeing, Okay,

448
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Speaker 2: did we get enough based upon Michael Parsons.

449
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean it's not as much as Michael Parsons.

450
00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,400
Speaker 7: There was a player, Kenny Clark was involved in that trade,

451
00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:40,880
Speaker 7: but he's also four years younger, maybe maybe even more

452
00:26:41,560 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 7: younger than the Max Frosby. And you know Max is

453
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,680
Speaker 7: going to be twenty nine to start next season. He's

454
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Speaker 7: coming off a knee surgery. He's had multiple surgeries over

455
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Speaker 7: the years. So yeah, to factor that into it when

456
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Speaker 7: you're talking about, you know, what the what a reasonable

457
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Speaker 7: return would be. But I thought I think it was

458
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Speaker 7: Adams Chapter tweeted out a photo a list of all

459
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Speaker 7: the players who have gotten two first round picks in return,

460
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Speaker 7: you know, for being traded, and of the of the

461
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Speaker 7: non quarterback on that list, Max was definitely the oldest player,

462
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Speaker 7: you know, when you think of like Michael Parsons, what

463
00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,600
Speaker 7: is he twenty five? Twenty six years old? So and

464
00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 7: others were younger the position players. There's Matthew Stafford was

465
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Speaker 7: obviously older, but you know he's a quarterback, so there's

466
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Speaker 7: there's there's that. So when you think of it from

467
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 7: all those perspectives, for the Raiders to get two first

468
00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 7: round picks for a twenty nine year old defensive end,

469
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Speaker 7: that's pretty good work.

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Speaker 2: So this Raiders team, obviously they really don't have many

471
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Speaker 2: holes to fill here with this roster. Okay, they have

472
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Speaker 2: a lot, Vinnie, Where do they start, how do they

473
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Speaker 2: reallocate these assets they got for Max Crosby.

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Speaker 7: Well, number one, this is all about for Gando Mendoza

475
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Speaker 7: at this point. Yes, you have to build out your team,

476
00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 7: but you're building out a team team to support you know, this,

477
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:04,840
Speaker 7: this asset that you cannot screw up. You know that's

478
00:28:04,880 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 7: that's there is such a feeling inside their building of look,

479
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 7: you know, it's suck to lose all those games to

480
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 7: kind of get to the point that we're at right now.

481
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Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, it got them

482
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Speaker 7: the number one pick overall, and there it just so

483
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Speaker 7: happens to be a really good quarterback, maybe the only

484
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Speaker 7: really good quarterback in this draft there for them at

485
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Speaker 7: number one. They don't have to trade for that quarterback.

486
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Speaker 7: They don't have to, you know, spend a lot of

487
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 7: money for him in free agency. All they're going to

488
00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:32,240
Speaker 7: do is hands of the paper to the commissioner and

489
00:28:32,280 --> 00:28:34,639
Speaker 7: they have them. And now they have them also for

490
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Speaker 7: the next four years on a really really good, reasonable

491
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Speaker 7: contract looking contract. So their whole objective right now is

492
00:28:42,400 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 7: to maximize for Ana Mendoza, make sure they don't screw

493
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Speaker 7: that up and how do you do that. You build

494
00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,200
Speaker 7: a really good team around them. So all those appts

495
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 7: that are going to go to the offensive line, you know,

496
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 7: they need another wide receiver. I could see Makayle Lemon

497
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 7: being that that fourteenth pick overall. You know from the UFC,

498
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Speaker 7: they've got an entire linebacker group, you know, to replace

499
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 7: all their starter depending free agency, I would be shocked

500
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 7: if any of them are back. They may need a

501
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 7: new cart. There's a lot of work to be done.

502
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 7: But I think for the first time, at least since

503
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 7: I've been covering the team, there is a real acknowledgement,

504
00:29:16,840 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 7: an honest acknowledgement from the powers that be, of where

505
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:23,640
Speaker 7: the Raiders are. And I think that that acknowledgement was

506
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 7: what kind of drove the whole thing. From Max's perspective,

507
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 7: everyone started last year with high hopes that Pete Carroll

508
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 7: and Gino Smith we're going to raise the floor. Well,

509
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 7: the floor fell on top of them, and I think

510
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 7: Max said, men, if that one didn't work, when you know,

511
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:41,800
Speaker 7: how long is it going to take? Whatever this iteration

512
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,360
Speaker 7: of it is going to work, And so they he

513
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 7: came to that realization and wanted out. As a result,

514
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 7: Tom Brady and John Spytech, who are running the ship,

515
00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 7: saw up close and personal how long it's going to

516
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:54,800
Speaker 7: take and the work that it's going to take to

517
00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 7: rebuild this and so that there's no more false hopes

518
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:01,479
Speaker 7: of thinking they're a one player away, one big signing away,

519
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 7: or one good coach with some slogans away. There's an

520
00:30:04,800 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 7: acknowledgement that this is going to take sometimes, so between

521
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 7: this year and next year, they've got to do a

522
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 7: lot of heavy lifting. They've got to do make a

523
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Speaker 7: lot of really good decisions. And if they do, and

524
00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,479
Speaker 7: it's it's all out there for them. There's a lot

525
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Speaker 7: of smart people that are in that organization.

526
00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 8: Now.

527
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Speaker 7: If they can make some good decisions and spend their

528
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Speaker 7: money wisely, then there's an Infernano Mendoza hit, which they

529
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 7: obviously hope happens. Then they can be a team that

530
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 7: when you go into twenty twenty seven, you know, might

531
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 7: be ready to make a move, and then beyond that,

532
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 7: you know who you know everything else is on the table.

533
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 7: But it's going to take a while, and I don't

534
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 7: think anybody in the building expects them to make a

535
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Speaker 7: massive turnaround this year. The key is, as you said,

536
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Speaker 7: spending all that money and utilizing all those drapticks in

537
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 7: a correct way and filling all the holes that are

538
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 7: on this football team.

539
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Speaker 2: So outside of calling Logan Paul bitch the other day, like,

540
00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: how do people view you Tom Brady in this organization?

541
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Speaker 2: How much influence he has, what his philosophies are, What

542
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Speaker 2: level of faith does Raider Nation already have in Tom Brady?

543
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,479
Speaker 2: What have we seen so far that should give us

544
00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: a little bit of a glimpse into how they want

545
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Speaker 2: to build this team.

546
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Speaker 7: Well, it's two different that's kind of two different questions

547
00:31:18,600 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 7: the fan base. But you know, I'm sure they're they're like, Okay,

548
00:31:21,600 --> 00:31:23,960
Speaker 7: what is it all about? How does this whole work?

549
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,400
Speaker 7: You know? And uh and they want to see, you know,

550
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 7: some some results. Obviously from inside the building, there's no

551
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 7: question he's in charge, and it's Tom Brady and John

552
00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 7: spy Tech is is basically his handsick general manager. They

553
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 7: were teammates together at the University of Michigan. John spy

554
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 7: Tech was in the Canna Bay building when when Tom

555
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 7: you know, went to Camba Bay and they want to

556
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 7: Super Bowl together. So they're in lockstep, and you know,

557
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 7: they they they understand what the what the power structure is.

558
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 7: John runs it on a day to day basis, uh,

559
00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 7: and Tom kind of oversees everything. He's basically the president

560
00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,520
Speaker 7: of Football Upper albeit from a little bit of a distance,

561
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 7: but yeah, there's no question that he's in charge of

562
00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 7: the football decisions. Mark Davis brought him into the into

563
00:32:08,640 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 7: the fold, you know, as a as an owner specifically

564
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 7: for that for that reason, he wants Tom Brady to

565
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 7: you know, uh work his magic with the football side

566
00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 7: of things. So that's that's that's how it is. And uh,

567
00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 7: you know, from from everybody's perspective, and you know, including

568
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:30,640
Speaker 7: including Mark Davis, he can't fire an owner. So Tom's

569
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 7: here for the long haul. And I'll say this too,

570
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,960
Speaker 7: you know, talking to people in and around him. Last

571
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:39,680
Speaker 7: year was an embarrassment and a and a harsh learning

572
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 7: lesson for him, And there were two instances where he

573
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:43,960
Speaker 7: saw it up close and personal. It was the two

574
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 7: Money Night games that he was able to attend because

575
00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,920
Speaker 7: normally on Sundays obviously he was working with the Fox

576
00:32:49,640 --> 00:32:52,280
Speaker 7: on their on their telecasts, but the day that he

577
00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,560
Speaker 7: was actually in the building one in particular, where they

578
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,040
Speaker 7: just got you know, the boat raced I think it

579
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:00,440
Speaker 7: was the Dallas Cowboys, the Dallas Callwage Money Night game.

580
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,760
Speaker 7: I remember talking to some people in the organization who

581
00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 7: were saying, you know, Tom's going to see this up

582
00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 7: post and personally, he's not going to be happy. And

583
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 7: you know, Tom Brady, now that his name, image, and

584
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,440
Speaker 7: likeness is all over this, and not that his legacy

585
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,440
Speaker 7: is tied up into it, but his reputation, a little

586
00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 7: bit of his reputation is tied into this, you kind

587
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 7: of bet on the fact that he's not going to

588
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 7: let that happen. He's going to learn whatever lessons he

589
00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 7: needed to learn last year and make sure that stuff

590
00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 7: doesn't happen again. That was what ultimately led to firing

591
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:35,000
Speaker 7: Pete Carroll, bringing in Clint Kuviac, getting rid of Gino Smith,

592
00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 7: some of the decisions that they're that they're making. So

593
00:33:37,880 --> 00:33:39,960
Speaker 7: I think it's going to be a differently run team

594
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 7: from this point forward, based on the harsh lessons that

595
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 7: something like a Tom Brady learned and is determined not

596
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:47,680
Speaker 7: to let happen again.

597
00:33:48,120 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe I got three favorite vincents. We got Vincent

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Speaker 2: Vega and pulp fiction. We got Vincent Valentine. As I

599
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Speaker 2: mentioned from Final Fantasy seven and Vincent Monsignor Vinnie B.

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Speaker 2: From the California Post. Vinnie, I really appreciate you doing this,

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Speaker 2: and I know it's been a whirlwind for you going

602
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Speaker 2: on all types of shows reporting on this, but it's

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Speaker 2: a big day for a Raider nation. I wanted to

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Speaker 2: make sure we covered it well enough, and that means

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Speaker 2: we have to have you on.

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Speaker 7: So thanks for doing this anytime, my friend, you know that.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next here on FSR, I'm Adam Moslin kfigures out.

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Speaker 2: to Vinnie bon Signor for joining us and breaking down

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Speaker 2: Max Crosby going to the Baltimore Ravens. More on that

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Speaker 2: coming up a little bit later in the show. Also,

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Speaker 2: Next Hour got to talk about I mean, we have

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Speaker 2: to Ron. I'm sorry, he's very divisive and polarizing, but

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Speaker 2: so you may remember this sequel A Spent two when

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Speaker 2: try to escape out of the buttocks of the rhino

643
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Speaker 2: while a group of tourists were watching this. Here's how

644
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: the cliffs sounded. I think we got it a Spina two.

645
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,839
Speaker 2: We don't have a spin Tura two on standby at

646
00:36:53,880 --> 00:37:00,080
Speaker 2: all times. We gotta have this clip here. It's the rhino.

647
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 7: Us fair.

648
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:11,399
Speaker 3: Girl.

649
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:52,080
Speaker 8: The mother rhino is giving first.

650
00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 2: As well, all right, peak Jim Carrey. So that rhino

651
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 2: is going up for auction, and it's at propstore auction

652
00:37:54,960 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 2: dot Com. And the estimate is somewhere between four thousand

653
00:38:01,840 --> 00:38:05,720
Speaker 2: and eight thousand dollars I guess based upon other rhino

654
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:10,200
Speaker 2: asses that have gone up for auction. Don't cheap, but

655
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 2: it looks like there's already like fifteen thousand dollars allocated

656
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:18,240
Speaker 2: to this. People are gonna buy this. It's a hot seller.

657
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have thought, but yeah, it was kind of

658
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 2: an iconic movie scene that everybody remembers. So I'm trying

659
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 2: to think what would I want to pay for out

660
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,600
Speaker 2: of a movie or TV show, And one of the

661
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: first things I thought of was the BB gun prop

662
00:38:38,080 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: from Home Alone, Like I wanted that thing bad because

663
00:38:41,800 --> 00:38:45,800
Speaker 2: it had like shotgun action to it, and I guess

664
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: it didn't really because it was a prop. They could

665
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:51,040
Speaker 2: make it look like that through the magic of film

666
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 2: and cinema, but you know, most BB guns you had

667
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,880
Speaker 2: to pump up, so to speak, like that's how it works.

668
00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,480
Speaker 2: That's one. I'll take the blue dagger sting from Lord

669
00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 2: of the Rings, my brecious. I don't think it's actually

670
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:10,160
Speaker 2: gonna be able to do that blue effect that Peter

671
00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:15,480
Speaker 2: Jackson did for it. I will definitely take Paul Walker's

672
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,520
Speaker 2: orange Toyota Supra from the original Fast and Furious movie

673
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:24,319
Speaker 2: The Car right the car, and I'll be hitting the

674
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 2: nos with that thing. I don't know if I'm allowed

675
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:34,120
Speaker 2: to do this because I'm white. Mark, maybe you could

676
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 2: weigh in. I really want the black panther suit. I

677
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,800
Speaker 2: really really want the black panther suit is so awesome.

678
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 2: I don't even need to wear it, Okay, I just

679
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 2: wanted on display. It's so cool. How about Bruce from Jaws.

680
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 2: That was the name of the animatronic shark named after

681
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:56,160
Speaker 2: Steven Spielberg's lawyer. It was real pain in the ass

682
00:39:56,239 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 2: to use and get to work for them on the movie.

683
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:04,600
Speaker 2: How about the House from Swiss Family Robinson, like the

684
00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:09,360
Speaker 2: Ultimate tree House and damn them at Disneyland for changing

685
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:12,840
Speaker 2: it to what Tarzan they took out the Swiss Family

686
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 2: Robinson House that was so cool, of course, Like this

687
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:21,319
Speaker 2: is an easy one. Give me give me a lightsaber.

688
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 2: I'll take Darth Vader's the red one. That's probably the

689
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:30,280
Speaker 2: coolest one. Indiana Jones, give me that whip. I need

690
00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,800
Speaker 2: that whip.

691
00:40:31,000 --> 00:40:33,880
Speaker 8: Snakes why did it have to be snakes.

692
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,480
Speaker 2: That would go for a pretty penny? I'm pretty sure.

693
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:39,680
Speaker 2: And then also one of my favorite movies of all

694
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:43,200
Speaker 2: time that holds up very well. In fact, I say

695
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,640
Speaker 2: it's still the best comic book movie to this day.

696
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 2: I want Rafael Sie Damn. I need Raphael side that

697
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,880
Speaker 2: he lost and then started swearing about dam And maybe

698
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 2: lastly the Doom two arcade machine from Gross point blank. Okay,

699
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,839
Speaker 2: that's kind of a deep cut. I'm trying to look

700
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 2: too cool here, but if you want to get to me,

701
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,799
Speaker 2: I'd follow Adam a more effda on FSR. Coming up next,

702
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 2: Kirk Morris, Welcome back in. I'm Oudam Moslin's Adams. Sometimes

703
00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 2: that Adam Ashlin, sometimes that Adam Ashmuss. Yeah at too

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00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:21,040
Speaker 2: at follow outam ay is where you can find me.

705
00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 2: K Fig is out tonight, Kevin up a little bit later,

706
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 2: Lebron James passes Kareem in another historical stat Does it matter?

707
00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I know the Lakers one tonight still wasn't

708
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,319
Speaker 2: that impressive of a victory. And be honest with you,

709
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,520
Speaker 2: we'll get into it. Lakers fans are starting to hate

710
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 2: on Luka doncic. I know Producer Brandon's talking about that.

711
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 2: We'll discuss they're turning on their own already. But first, Oh,

712
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,640
Speaker 2: he's calling in now and Kevin's back. Let's go.

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00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,040
Speaker 1: I was drinking, dude.

714
00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: Well, there's only one captain we salute, and it ain't

715
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 2: Captain Morgan anymore since I stopped drinking. It's Captain Kirk,

716
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 2: not of the USS Enterprise, but of the LVR Enterprise,

717
00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 2: the Las Vegas Raiders, where he's the color analyst on

718
00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 2: the radio broadcast. It's Captain Kirk Morrison, who's still the

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Speaker 2: king of Oaktown and is expanding his territory to the

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Speaker 2: digital world with Bob Robin Little Sis. He's expanding that

721
00:42:25,120 --> 00:42:29,800
Speaker 2: digital world of his to the tackle for Lost TV plus.

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00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 2: You of course know him as a lum here at

723
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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio and his broadcast work on ESPN and

724
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 2: Serious XM for the NFL as well. Plus he is

725
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 2: a proud San Diego State as tech like Kawhi Leonard,

726
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 2: it's Kirk Morrison back on Fox Sports Radio here on

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Speaker 2: FNA on FSR. Kirk, how are you?

728
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 4: I'm doing great? How would do a fellas?

729
00:42:50,280 --> 00:42:52,239
Speaker 2: We're good. It's good to have you on. You know,

730
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:54,400
Speaker 2: last week we were talking about the NFL Combine a

731
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,360
Speaker 2: little bit before we get into the Raiders and NFL

732
00:42:57,400 --> 00:43:00,000
Speaker 2: free agency coming up. I want to go back because,

733
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:01,840
Speaker 2: as I pulled some of your numbers, you ran a

734
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Speaker 2: four six nine forty yard dash while being two forty

735
00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:08,800
Speaker 2: out there, Kirk, not too bad. What was the whole process,

736
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Speaker 2: like NFL Combine going through there? What are your memories

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Speaker 2: of it?

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Speaker 4: Man, it's some long months of training, right, you only

739
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 4: get a little bit of time. But I was finished

740
00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:27,320
Speaker 4: right around Thanksgiving weekend and I immediately went into training

741
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Speaker 4: for the forty yard dash, which dying at may people

742
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,120
Speaker 4: think that that's that's slow. I thought I was doing

743
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 4: okay back then for linebackers, and again now these guys

744
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:40,640
Speaker 4: are running in four fours and you know, four threes

745
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,239
Speaker 4: when it comes to forty yard dash times. But what

746
00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 4: I remember most was just every day grinding, getting ready

747
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:52,840
Speaker 4: to try to run my fastest time. And the funny

748
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 4: part was that at the combine when I went, it

749
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Speaker 4: was at the old RCA do like the RCA eight

750
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 4: to was one like the first dome that felt like

751
00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 4: ever built because that thing, the weather outside was the

752
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:08,239
Speaker 4: same weather inside. They ain't have no heat for nothing. Man,

753
00:44:08,280 --> 00:44:11,839
Speaker 4: you felt like he was running outdoors. But yeah, yeah,

754
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 4: the good old RCA dome. So I have a lot

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00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 4: of good memories just about the overall workout of the combine,

756
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,800
Speaker 4: how fun it was. But to go out and compete

757
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Speaker 4: with guys next to me, like you know DeMarcus Ware

758
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 4: and you know Sean Merriman. Man, I was with the

759
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: line back and cruise, so we had some studs that

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00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,280
Speaker 4: came out and had a pretty good class.

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Speaker 2: You also put up twenty five reps on two twenty five,

762
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,080
Speaker 2: so not too shapam impressive. Impressive, I'll take that.

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Speaker 6: Because Adam brought up the combine before we move on,

764
00:44:38,560 --> 00:44:40,480
Speaker 6: just the interview process, and I know, I'm sure that

765
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 6: was probably long and exhausting. Did anybody ask you any

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00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:45,400
Speaker 6: crazy off the wall type of questions did you have?

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00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:47,719
Speaker 6: Do you have any stories of certain interviews that you

768
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:51,640
Speaker 6: did that stood out other than most Yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean a lot of times they just want to see

770
00:44:53,360 --> 00:44:55,920
Speaker 4: where your mindset is at. And so I went in knowing,

771
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Speaker 4: you know, kind of the questions that they were going

772
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 4: to ask, and it's really about to thought process. I

773
00:45:01,600 --> 00:45:02,880
Speaker 4: think one of the questions I think one of the

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00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:06,640
Speaker 4: coaches that asked me was that, you know, if you

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00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 4: saw your mom steal ten dollars, would you tell on her? Like,

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00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,120
Speaker 4: oh man, that's a different one, right, I think it honestly,

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00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 4: how would you answer that question?

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00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: You know?

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00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,400
Speaker 4: And so yeah, it's just the mindset, you know. And

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00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,360
Speaker 4: I think basically the consider that will be like, you

781
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 4: know what, I'll have a conversation with my mom and

782
00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 4: tell her, hey, look, that's not the standard that we

783
00:45:29,160 --> 00:45:31,360
Speaker 4: live to. If you need something, you ask from me

784
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:33,640
Speaker 4: or we can do it, but we don't take some others.

785
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 4: And so that's kind of like the mindset answer you

786
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: have to have because depending on how you answer it,

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00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 4: it gives the mindset of what the team is like

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00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 4: or what the coaches can they believe in you or

789
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:48,000
Speaker 4: will you allow others to slack or to give less effort.

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00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 4: So kind of a crazy situation, a crazy question to ask,

791
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 4: but all ask purpose. So hopefully that was a good

792
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 4: one that you guys can kind of ponder along.

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Speaker 2: Bit I like that. I'm telling Dad, I guess I

794
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 2: don't know, right, right, Kirka, the Bills made a trade

795
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 2: for DJ Moore? Is this a receiver that's going to

796
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:10,279
Speaker 2: help them get over the top, that's going to give

797
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 2: Josh Allen the confidence and not have to try to

798
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:14,520
Speaker 2: do everything out there, which was kind of his undoing

799
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:15,760
Speaker 2: against le broncos.

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Speaker 4: It gives another weapon, right, I mean, they've got some

801
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:22,360
Speaker 4: other guys on offense that can help out secure. You

802
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 4: also got the running back James Cook with a couple

803
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: of tight ends as well offensive line. It just whenever

804
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 4: you can get your quarterback and MVP candidate every single year,

805
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:35,160
Speaker 4: when you can get him more weapons. And this is

806
00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 4: somebody who's very explosive and DJ Moore so honestly to

807
00:46:39,520 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 4: be explosive in the Chicago offense. But they've got so

808
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 4: many other guys, and when you have that kind of

809
00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,360
Speaker 4: money that you're making, you know, you become expendable. But

810
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,240
Speaker 4: it may work out for the Buffalo Bills. And also

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00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:54,120
Speaker 4: with Joe Brady and DJ Moore have that relationship that

812
00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 4: they had in Carolina when DJ was out there balling

813
00:46:57,719 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 4: and became a part of the deal. They got right

814
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 4: show too obviously to care a lot of Panthers, So

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Speaker 4: I think that the familiarity in the offense, how explosive

816
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:10,839
Speaker 4: he can be, I think it'd be exciting. I don't

817
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:13,359
Speaker 4: put them at Super Bowl favorites or anything like that.

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00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,840
Speaker 4: I just know that this is a piece that definitely

819
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 4: can help the Buffalo Bill's out, giving them an experience

820
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:22,319
Speaker 4: wide receiver that they just really have not had that

821
00:47:22,440 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 4: type of production maybe since Stefan Diggs left for free agency.

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Speaker 6: A team that you're very familiar with is the Los

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Speaker 6: Angeles Rams. You worked on their radio broadcast for a

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00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 6: number of years, and they swung a big move earlier

825
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,400
Speaker 6: this week when they traded four draft picks for Trent McDuffie,

826
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Speaker 6: someone you've seen a lot as well playing for the

827
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Speaker 6: Kansas City Chiefs, And of course you're the radio analysts

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Speaker 6: for the Raiders. Like Adam mentioned, what kind of player

829
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Speaker 6: are the Rams getting in mcduffy, and do you think

830
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 6: he makes a significant dent, significant impact in shoring up

831
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Speaker 6: what was their biggest weakness last year, at least defensively.

832
00:47:50,760 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 4: Well, I think he's only one player. I mean, you know,

833
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:55,880
Speaker 4: is he going to have the impact that I thought

834
00:47:56,320 --> 00:47:59,400
Speaker 4: Jalen Ramsey had for the Rams when they traded for

835
00:47:59,480 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 4: him from Miami Dolphins back in the tar from Jacksonville

836
00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 4: back in the day. I thought that that was a

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00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,279
Speaker 4: guy who came right in and immediately he changed that

838
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:12,520
Speaker 4: secondary around for the Rams. Can Trent McDuffie have that

839
00:48:12,760 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 4: same type of impact that Jalen Ramsey have. I don't know,

840
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:20,640
Speaker 4: I really don't. I believe that now the expectation is

841
00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 4: there and for the Kansas City Chiefs not to owning

842
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 4: up the money to get him the type of construct

843
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 4: that he's deserved, a type of player, And so to me,

844
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,560
Speaker 4: I do have a little pushback on it. They gave

845
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,680
Speaker 4: up a lot for a guy who they truly believe in.

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00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 4: I think the Rams were just tired of going through

847
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 4: this cycle of getting one year cornerbacks and every single

848
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,920
Speaker 4: year trying to hopefully mesh well with the guys in

849
00:48:45,960 --> 00:48:48,520
Speaker 4: the back end. This is going to be kind of

850
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 4: a wait and see approach. I want to see how

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00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: this works. Now he does fall into on the defense

852
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: where Jimmy Lake, the former head coach at Washington, coached

853
00:48:59,360 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 4: a guy like Trip McDuffie at Washington, so they have

854
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 4: that relationship there. Hopefully that brings out the best football

855
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: in him. But I think the Rams still need more

856
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:11,880
Speaker 4: help in that secondary. It's not just gonna be a

857
00:49:11,920 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 4: one guy. I don't see him as any racer on

858
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,279
Speaker 4: one side of the field, like a Darrell Reavers or

859
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 4: a Jenson Ramsey was so would love to see how

860
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,440
Speaker 4: they utilize him. But a lot of pressure on a

861
00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:24,399
Speaker 4: guy that they also have to reward with a big

862
00:49:24,440 --> 00:49:25,920
Speaker 4: contract after the trade.

863
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 6: Kirk Morrison joining us here on f and A on FSR.

864
00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 6: Let's talk about the chief's aspect of the trade. So,

865
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,640
Speaker 6: as I mentioned, they get four picks out of it.

866
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 6: People are trying to compare it to the Tyreek Hill

867
00:49:35,120 --> 00:49:37,239
Speaker 6: trade with the Miami Dolphins, a guy that they were

868
00:49:37,239 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 6: not willing to give a long term extension to and

869
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,200
Speaker 6: instead got a bunch of draft picks to see if

870
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,799
Speaker 6: they can try to rebuild that thing. Your aspect from

871
00:49:43,800 --> 00:49:46,360
Speaker 6: the chief standpoint, knowing that they weren't going to pay McDuffie,

872
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 6: they get more assets they're able to reload, or at

873
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:51,279
Speaker 6: least a temptree load. Now after missing the postseason for

874
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:53,680
Speaker 6: the first time in a decade, how do you feel

875
00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:55,160
Speaker 6: from their aspect when it comes to this.

876
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 4: Trade, Well, they got pished, man. That's something that you

877
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 4: hope that this coaching staff and Patrick Mahomes can have

878
00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 4: guys develop into players that are going to be around

879
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:10,399
Speaker 4: there for a long long time now. They haven't had

880
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 4: the production that I would have wanted from guys like

881
00:50:13,360 --> 00:50:16,080
Speaker 4: Xavier Worthy who they had in the first round, or

882
00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:18,520
Speaker 4: thinking about Isaiah Pacheco, who's going to be a free

883
00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 4: agent coming up. The wide receiver position for the Chiefs

884
00:50:22,560 --> 00:50:25,400
Speaker 4: is kind of the question, Martin, because you know Rasie

885
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,080
Speaker 4: Rice and I don't want to get into his off

886
00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:30,200
Speaker 4: the field problems that he's had so far. So you're

887
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:33,719
Speaker 4: probably going to utilize these picks on guys who are

888
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 4: going to be immediate impact players. That's why you train

889
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 4: the way treat mcdufy because you need the draft capital

890
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 4: for guys who are going to come in and play

891
00:50:43,040 --> 00:50:45,680
Speaker 4: right away, that guys who can wait and develop. They

892
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:48,080
Speaker 4: need guys who can play right away. Especially at wide

893
00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 4: receiver and now secondary without Triton mcguffie, Jennell Watson goes

894
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 4: into free agency as well. This is going to be

895
00:50:55,239 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 4: a new football team. But they also had Read as

896
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 4: well at safety and he's no hanger there. So you've

897
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:05,880
Speaker 4: got a whole new secondary from the Chiefs and a

898
00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:09,240
Speaker 4: lot of it is really based on that they haven't

899
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,240
Speaker 4: been able to resign the guys or what I said,

900
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:16,440
Speaker 4: it's a long thought guys who have they drafted well,

901
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:19,799
Speaker 4: but have priced themselves out of what the Chiefs can

902
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,840
Speaker 4: afford because of what they have to pay the quarterback.

903
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,239
Speaker 2: Kirk Morrison, our guests here on FNA on FSR. So, Kirk,

904
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:29,239
Speaker 2: let's get to your team and the Raiders. You know

905
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 2: they're going through this rebuild. It looks like Gino Smith's

906
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: being released. They're likely going to draft Fernando Mendoza. Why

907
00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,120
Speaker 2: is Clint Kubiak the right guy for this rebuild going

908
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 2: on with this organization?

909
00:51:41,160 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 4: The first year head coach who has kind of been

910
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 4: around the block a little bit, but he's when I

911
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 4: say been around the block man, he's been in the

912
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,520
Speaker 4: NFL for a long time. You can highlight his dad,

913
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:55,440
Speaker 4: Gary Kobiak a Super Bowl winning head coach, the backup

914
00:51:55,480 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 4: to John l Way we know and back of the day,

915
00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,799
Speaker 4: but he's also a coordinator who's on a Super Bowl

916
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 4: as well with the Denver Broncos. He's seen a lot

917
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:07,440
Speaker 4: of football clinton hash and been around the game, and

918
00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:10,359
Speaker 4: we've seen him put on a master class about how

919
00:52:10,440 --> 00:52:14,160
Speaker 4: an offense is supposed to work. Especially this year with Seattle.

920
00:52:14,719 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 4: I think he's going to work because you got a

921
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:19,279
Speaker 4: young guy who's all about getting this offense together. I

922
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 4: think the defense for the Raiders will be a work

923
00:52:21,840 --> 00:52:24,640
Speaker 4: in progress, but it's about scoring points, it's about getting

924
00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 4: the right quarterback. It's about setting the foundation, which I

925
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:31,359
Speaker 4: think Clint Kulbiec comes in and realizes that and I

926
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:33,960
Speaker 4: think he's all about building from the ground up. And

927
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:36,800
Speaker 4: that's kind of where the Raiders are. You win four games,

928
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 4: you're at the bottom of the league. You're picking number

929
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,120
Speaker 4: one overall, you're at the bottom of the league. So

930
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,440
Speaker 4: the only thing that I think for the Raiders, they

931
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,440
Speaker 4: can't go any further down. The arrow has to be

932
00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 4: plunting up. And I think that's why Clint Kubiak took

933
00:52:49,160 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 4: the job, and I think he brings a lot with

934
00:52:51,800 --> 00:52:54,240
Speaker 4: him and to get the Raiders going in the right direction.

935
00:52:54,640 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 6: So in talking about this rebuild for the Raiders, the

936
00:52:57,120 --> 00:52:59,640
Speaker 6: elephant in the room, of course, is the Max Crosby situation.

937
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 6: In his late twenties. Obviously wants to win, has not

938
00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 6: been part of a winning dynamic there in Las Vegas

939
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 6: for a number of years. Hasn't formally requested to trade,

940
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 6: but certainly hasn't explicitly said that he doesn't want to

941
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 6: be traded either. Rumors about Ales Guerrero's influence with Tom

942
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,719
Speaker 6: Brady on the organization and whether or not that's a

943
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 6: factor as to whether or not he wants to be there.

944
00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 6: You can speak on that aspect of it or not.

945
00:53:19,600 --> 00:53:22,080
Speaker 6: But just in your opinion, do you think it's best

946
00:53:22,080 --> 00:53:23,839
Speaker 6: for Max Crosby to try to stick it out as

947
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,680
Speaker 6: a veteran presence as part of that rebuild or do

948
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,799
Speaker 6: you think it's best for the Raiders and or Max

949
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:28,720
Speaker 6: for them to part ways.

950
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:33,279
Speaker 4: You know, we can always say rebuild or retool or

951
00:53:33,320 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 4: read whatever, but you know, in this league things can

952
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 4: change pretty quickly. Carolina won a division last year. Year

953
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:42,920
Speaker 4: before that, you know, the Washington Commanders went to the

954
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:47,080
Speaker 4: NFC Championship game, and this league is crazy and things

955
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 4: can change pretty quickly. But when it comes to Max Crosby,

956
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:54,720
Speaker 4: it's really honestly to me, I think that he stays.

957
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,720
Speaker 4: A lot of people are talking about that. He hasn't

958
00:53:56,719 --> 00:53:59,040
Speaker 4: come out and said it, well, spucking the Max plenty

959
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:01,160
Speaker 4: of times, and he's like, but all I can do

960
00:54:01,239 --> 00:54:02,799
Speaker 4: is hand on me. I got to go work out

961
00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:05,720
Speaker 4: and be ready to go. I don't want to be traded,

962
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:09,279
Speaker 4: but yet obviously people are going to call, people are

963
00:54:09,320 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 4: going to want to acquire a guy like Max Crosby.

964
00:54:12,840 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 4: I just don't know giving up a first round picks

965
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,160
Speaker 4: or a team wants to give up first round picks

966
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,680
Speaker 4: and the Raiders get them to go draft too. You know,

967
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:23,920
Speaker 4: I've seen this before. I'm still you think about the

968
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,720
Speaker 4: Khalil Mack trade when he got like three first round picks,

969
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 4: you know what I mean, And yet none of them

970
00:54:28,440 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 4: are still on the football team anymore. None of them

971
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 4: really became real big time football players. So it's a

972
00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 4: risk reward. If I'm starting my head coaching career and

973
00:54:39,040 --> 00:54:42,319
Speaker 4: I've got a premier player like Max Crosby, you know what,

974
00:54:42,640 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 4: I kind of want him around I think this is

975
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:48,080
Speaker 4: a year process, not even a year process. I'm want

976
00:54:48,080 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 4: to give it into October. The Raiders have enough time

977
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,240
Speaker 4: to have a enough momentum. Let's get through free agency,

978
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:57,839
Speaker 4: Let's get to the draft, Let's get through OTAs, let's

979
00:54:57,880 --> 00:55:00,360
Speaker 4: get through training camp, and let's get through the first

980
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:02,680
Speaker 4: part of the season. If it's not going in the

981
00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,400
Speaker 4: right direction, I think you make a trade to trade

982
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:08,560
Speaker 4: deadline and you look to get those picks for next year.

983
00:55:09,040 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 4: I don't see anybody getting the picks right now, giving

984
00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,960
Speaker 4: up the picks right now in this draft. I just

985
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,960
Speaker 4: don't see it. And I hear it all over here.

986
00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:19,480
Speaker 4: These are all reports, and that's why I think nothing's

987
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:22,320
Speaker 4: happened right now so far with Max, because he doesn't

988
00:55:22,320 --> 00:55:23,120
Speaker 4: want to go anywhere.

989
00:55:23,800 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 2: Speaking of reports, here, Kirk reportedly the Raiders are going

990
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:29,920
Speaker 2: to take Fernando Medelza with the number one pick. What

991
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,240
Speaker 2: can you just say about his ability and what skills

992
00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:34,080
Speaker 2: you think will translate to the next level?

993
00:55:35,800 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 4: Man, Fernando is a bawlers man. I love Fernando for

994
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 4: a long time, and even when he was at the

995
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,800
Speaker 4: University of California, Berkeley. I think we all got a

996
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 4: chance to see him at Indiana all the biggest stage,

997
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,520
Speaker 4: but Kyl Berkeley have had a chance to see him

998
00:55:49,239 --> 00:55:51,880
Speaker 4: out of sort of a lesser stage or the previous

999
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:56,560
Speaker 4: two seasons before this one, and he to me just

1000
00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,239
Speaker 4: lit it up. And I always said, man, if he

1001
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 4: got on that Dick level, if he got on the

1002
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,160
Speaker 4: high stage of vig time college football, people will see

1003
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:07,600
Speaker 4: the kind of player that he is, the more importantly,

1004
00:56:07,800 --> 00:56:10,319
Speaker 4: the kind of person that he is. I've never heard

1005
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,319
Speaker 4: anybody who say anything bad about Fernando Mendoza. Have You know,

1006
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 4: it's a pretty easy decision. I think you drafting a

1007
00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,560
Speaker 4: guy like Mendoza. I think that his skill set is

1008
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,800
Speaker 4: one that is perfect for the NFL's type of schemes,

1009
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 4: a quick release, it's accuracy, he's got leadership. I think, honestly,

1010
00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:34,919
Speaker 4: this is probably one of those situations where it's kind

1011
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:37,720
Speaker 4: of boring at the top of the draft because us

1012
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:40,680
Speaker 4: I feel like you have a pick that fits all

1013
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,560
Speaker 4: the needs of the team that's picking number one overall.

1014
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,840
Speaker 4: So we'll see what happens. But I don't foresee the

1015
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,799
Speaker 4: Raiders trading away their first round pick, I mean the

1016
00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:53,640
Speaker 4: first overall pick. I think it looks like they're going

1017
00:56:53,680 --> 00:56:56,160
Speaker 4: to be going in the way of a Fernando Mendoza,

1018
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 4: especially with the news of them releasing Geno Smith. You

1019
00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:02,239
Speaker 4: only got it, ain't no timeeling your roster. We'll see

1020
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,239
Speaker 4: what they do in a free agency, but man it all,

1021
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,520
Speaker 4: it looks like every leads to drafting Fernando Mendoza come April.

1022
00:57:10,719 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 2: One year.

1023
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 6: On college football, because you cover that as well, just

1024
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 6: your thoughts on the overall state of the game. They're

1025
00:57:16,760 --> 00:57:19,880
Speaker 6: having summits in Washington talking about NIL deals and the like,

1026
00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:21,960
Speaker 6: as far as the product on the field, the state

1027
00:57:22,000 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 6: of competition, the state of NIL just all of it.

1028
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:26,960
Speaker 6: What is your thought about the overall help of college

1029
00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:27,640
Speaker 6: football at the.

1030
00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 4: Moment comes to college football right now, it's a little

1031
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 4: bit different. College football has been about the NILS, about

1032
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 4: the transfer portal, and to me, I love that we're

1033
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 4: getting to see all of these new matchups with the

1034
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 4: conference realignment. But I think, just to answer your question,

1035
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 4: college football has probably been at its best because when

1036
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:52,800
Speaker 4: and I go back to how we kind of started

1037
00:57:52,800 --> 00:57:56,400
Speaker 4: the conversation at the combine, you know very rare. Did

1038
00:57:56,440 --> 00:57:58,840
Speaker 4: I see a guy who spent four years and three

1039
00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,600
Speaker 4: years at one school? Because guys are constantly switching and

1040
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:05,920
Speaker 4: moving schools, And what I've learned is that it used

1041
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:07,920
Speaker 4: to be one school had all the talent and they

1042
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,720
Speaker 4: would graduate and in the next class or the next way.

1043
00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 4: Now I'm seeing the talent being spread out as guys

1044
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:17,560
Speaker 4: are moving around to different schools. I think the parody

1045
00:58:17,600 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 4: in college football has made what I think football is

1046
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:23,760
Speaker 4: so much better to watch on Saturdays now because every

1047
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: team has an opportunity, Every team has a chance. And man,

1048
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 4: if Indiana could win a national championship, man, can you

1049
00:58:30,120 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 4: tell me what's gool out?

1050
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:31,240
Speaker 9: There?

1051
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 4: Can't do it? Because that happened, and now I feel

1052
00:58:34,480 --> 00:58:36,760
Speaker 4: like every team feels like it could happen with the

1053
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:39,440
Speaker 4: way that you could pay players and with the transfer portal.

1054
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 2: Lastly, Kirk, you got your new channel, Tackle for Lost TV.

1055
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:45,640
Speaker 2: You put up a new video today about the four

1056
00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:49,200
Speaker 2: rs of NFL free agency. Just where can everybody find it?

1057
00:58:49,320 --> 00:58:51,160
Speaker 2: What can they look forward to with the new channel?

1058
00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 4: Man, it's actually I'm in the ground level of just

1059
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:00,600
Speaker 4: starting it. Tackle for Loss is the name of show

1060
00:59:01,560 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 4: and overall and you can find it at Tackle for

1061
00:59:04,520 --> 00:59:09,680
Speaker 4: LOFs TV, on Instagram, Twitter and also TikTok and I'm

1062
00:59:09,720 --> 00:59:12,360
Speaker 4: just throwing some things out there. Still build it from

1063
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,280
Speaker 4: the ground up. And you know, right now I'm actually

1064
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,920
Speaker 4: going to start something now Fridays Fernando Mendoza Fridays, so

1065
00:59:20,080 --> 00:59:24,160
Speaker 4: you go to see the hashtag Fernando Fridays and every

1066
00:59:24,200 --> 00:59:26,720
Speaker 4: Friday lead up into the NFL Draft, I'm gonna have

1067
00:59:26,760 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 4: a play from Fernando Mendoza that you see and hopefully

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Speaker 4: you like and enjoy it.

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Speaker 6: Definitely looking forward to that. All Rader Nations, you're looking

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Speaker 6: forward to that. At Kirk Morrison is where you can

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Speaker 6: find him on x eight year NFL veteran Fox Sports

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00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:42,000
Speaker 6: radio veteran of course play a part of the Playboy

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Speaker 6: play broadcast team on the radio side for the Raiders,

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Speaker 6: also does college football for TV. Serious Exit NFL.

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Speaker 2: He has like nineteen thousand jobs. He's domaking.

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Speaker 6: Here's our guy, Kirk Morrison. Kirk, thanks so much for

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Speaker 6: spending as much time as you do with us today. Brother.

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Speaker 6: We appreciate it.

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Speaker 4: Hey man, always a pleasure. Fellas like, great, we can

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Speaker 4: work this out.

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Speaker 2: There goes Kirk Morrison, and there goes Kevin. You're you're leaving.

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Speaker 2: What do you mean it's FNA not f and k

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Speaker 2: not figures and Kirk Morrison. Apparently I'm not enough to

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Speaker 2: keep Kevin around the rest of the night. But we'll

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01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,760
Speaker 2: keep going here on Fox Sports Radio. And remember with

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Speaker 2: at the top of your screen. Again, just search Fox

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Speaker 2: Sports Radio in the iHeart App. Well, I've teased it

1095
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:48,160
Speaker 2: for too long. Lebron is past Kareem again? What does

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01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:51,880
Speaker 2: it mean? Is this a valuable stat to care about?

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01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,440
Speaker 2: And what's wrong with the Lakers? And they're fans turning

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01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:57,360
Speaker 2: on Luka Doncic? I mean they got them for nothing?

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Speaker 2: How could you be upset with this guy? More fn

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Speaker 2: A on fs.

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Speaker 2: Alarmed he fn A Cotton Welcome back in. It's fn

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Speaker 2: A on FSR on that of Oslin. Kevin Figures is out.

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01:01:34,120 --> 01:01:40,680
Speaker 2: He left me he isn't feeling well. He came back

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01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,080
Speaker 2: for Kirk Morrison and then I was like, yeah, I'm good.

1109
01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 2: I got my fill of Adam Ouslin tonight, Adam Ashley

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Speaker 2: prayers upper kfig He'll be back next week. Coming up,

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01:01:53,840 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 2: we'll talk about Jason Tatum a little bit. Where that

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01:01:56,520 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 2: puts Boston in the contenders? Are they in the inner

1113
01:02:00,360 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 2: circle now? Are they really one of the top teams

1114
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 2: in the league. How good did he look coming off

1115
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 2: the achilles ten months later?

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01:02:07,400 --> 01:02:07,560
Speaker 8: Oh?

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01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:13,000
Speaker 2: Was an achilles called? He actually was very healthy until

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01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:17,200
Speaker 2: this injury. He was consistently one of the stars in

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01:02:17,240 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 2: this league that played each and every night. But we

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01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:22,760
Speaker 2: got to talk about a guy who plays a little

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01:02:22,760 --> 01:02:26,880
Speaker 2: bit less. That was a cheap shot. He's forty one.

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01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:29,440
Speaker 2: It's different. I don't know if you guys knew that,

1123
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 2: since they throw it in our face all the time.

1124
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:35,800
Speaker 2: And I'm not one of those people that hates Lebron James.

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01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 2: I don't don't give Maybe he is the greatest player

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01:02:39,240 --> 01:02:43,680
Speaker 2: of all time. It's hard to compare eras I really

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01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:46,480
Speaker 2: don't care to have that goat conversation. I really don't

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Speaker 2: want to do it ever. Again, eras are so different,

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01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:56,000
Speaker 2: the state of play in today's NBA very different. Lebron's

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01:02:56,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: basically played in three eras at this point and to

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01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 2: that point, with him passing Kareem Abdul Jabbar in most

1132
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,240
Speaker 2: makes field goal makes in NBA history. The other night

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01:03:10,080 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 2: with a fade away on the left base line in

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01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,439
Speaker 2: Denver in a game they would lose and get down

1135
01:03:15,480 --> 01:03:18,640
Speaker 2: by fifteen to two early on in that would put

1136
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:25,440
Speaker 2: him past Kareem for most made field goals in NBA history.

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:32,760
Speaker 2: Woo Now, I'm not gonna downplay it or poop poo it,

1138
01:03:33,560 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 2: as Rob Parker would say, Wait a second, did Mark

1139
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:39,560
Speaker 2: just put his vote in as Lebron being the goat?

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01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,320
Speaker 2: Is that why you just played that goat? Sounds? Is

1141
01:03:42,360 --> 01:03:44,720
Speaker 2: that your guy? I thought you were Chicago guy.

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01:03:45,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 7: Guy.

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01:03:45,360 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 2: Come on, it's gotta be MJ for you, all right,

1144
01:03:48,680 --> 01:03:52,959
Speaker 2: But they're close. It's different. The game has changed so much.

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01:03:53,480 --> 01:03:56,320
Speaker 2: I don't want to have that conversation. Kareem's also in

1146
01:03:56,360 --> 01:04:00,600
Speaker 2: the conversation. Just because Lebron passed him in most shots

1147
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 2: doesn't mean now he's necessarily better than Kareem was. But

1148
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:09,000
Speaker 2: I will say this, him doing it is impressive in

1149
01:04:09,160 --> 01:04:12,640
Speaker 2: this way. I don't know if you knew this, but uh,

1150
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:17,800
Speaker 2: pace of play wasn't always this fast in the NBA. Now,

1151
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,200
Speaker 2: there was a stretch of time where it was where

1152
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:23,440
Speaker 2: guys were running up and down the floor like Sonic

1153
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:31,400
Speaker 2: the Hedgehog the eighties Showtime Lakers, Kareem Abdul Jabbar played

1154
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:34,840
Speaker 2: then played next to Magic. I don't talk about being

1155
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:37,720
Speaker 2: born on third base. You get drafted by the Lakers

1156
01:04:37,720 --> 01:04:41,240
Speaker 2: and Kareem is your vet. Nobody wants to talk about that.

1157
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:44,120
Speaker 2: Everybody wants to Lebron look at these super teams like, well,

1158
01:04:44,800 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 2: some guys just ended up on super teams immediately, like

1159
01:04:49,000 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 2: Magic going to the Lakers where Kareem was already there.

1160
01:04:53,840 --> 01:04:58,080
Speaker 2: Like I don't know, Tim Duncan joining the San Antonio Spurs,

1161
01:04:58,080 --> 01:05:02,520
Speaker 2: who averaged fifty five wins per season under David Robinson.

1162
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:05,120
Speaker 2: He's out for a season with the back injury, and

1163
01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: that's how they end up getting Tim Duncan. Some guys

1164
01:05:08,320 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 2: got it better than others. Lebron, what was he supposed

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01:05:12,360 --> 01:05:16,040
Speaker 2: to do? Stay in Cleveland forever? With how mismanaged. They

1166
01:05:16,080 --> 01:05:19,720
Speaker 2: were His running mates were fat ass Shack and he

1167
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 2: was at that time Antoine Jamison. What were they gonna

1168
01:05:25,400 --> 01:05:29,400
Speaker 2: do there? They were completely mismanaged. So yeah, he helped

1169
01:05:29,400 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 2: form the Heatles with Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh and

1170
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,040
Speaker 2: you hate him for it, and you always have and

1171
01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,840
Speaker 2: you haven't let that go, even though you kept saying

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01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 2: over and over again, well he can't win here, He's

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01:05:41,840 --> 01:05:43,560
Speaker 2: not gonna be able to win with Cleveland. But then

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01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:45,800
Speaker 2: he leaves and you get mad at him for it, say,

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01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 2: which is it? He eventually came back to Cleveland and won,

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01:05:50,440 --> 01:05:57,520
Speaker 2: fulfilled his destiny, but he passes. Kareem Abdul Jabbar most

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01:05:57,560 --> 01:06:01,080
Speaker 2: makes an NBA history, and he does so at an

1178
01:06:01,160 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: average pace of ninety four possessions per game. That's what

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01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Lebron's been under. Kareem was getting a hundred and six

1180
01:06:10,040 --> 01:06:14,480
Speaker 2: possessions per game. Why because he played a lot in

1181
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:16,800
Speaker 2: the seventies and eighties and they were playing at a

1182
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:20,200
Speaker 2: much faster pace. The NBA's playing faster now, but throughout

1183
01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 2: a lot of Lebron's career, they were not, which means

1184
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 2: Kareem actually had like more possessions to total field goals,

1185
01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 2: and so Lebron doing this now and he's old and

1186
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:41,760
Speaker 2: Kareem retired at forty one to two. I don't want

1187
01:06:41,800 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 2: to say it's more impressive, but it's very impressive. You

1188
01:06:46,760 --> 01:06:50,760
Speaker 2: may hate Lebron. You may have Lebron derangement syndrome. That's

1189
01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:55,600
Speaker 2: typically I think that's in the disorder book. Like I

1190
01:06:55,760 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 2: don't give in to hate. Some of you have that LD. Yes,

1191
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:04,920
Speaker 2: it hits you hard. It doesn't matter what the accomplishment is,

1192
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:08,560
Speaker 2: the award, the achievement. You'll point to four and six

1193
01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:12,200
Speaker 2: in the NBA Finals as if like he was supposed

1194
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 2: to beat the Golden State Warriors with those Cleveland Cavaliers

1195
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,040
Speaker 2: teams or supposed to beat the San Antonio Spurs and

1196
01:07:19,320 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 2: seven with that Cavs team. Context matters to me, but

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01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:31,439
Speaker 2: I think it's damn impressive and I'm not gonna hate

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01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 2: on him passing Kareem. And even though he was asked

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01:07:33,800 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 2: about it postgame and didn't make that big of a

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01:07:35,640 --> 01:07:38,840
Speaker 2: deal about it, Lebron he was kind of like, whatever,

1201
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:41,320
Speaker 2: it's cool to be talked about with some of the greats.

1202
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,479
Speaker 2: It just means I'm old. Basically, that's usually the route

1203
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 2: he takes, but he's old and still pretty productive out there. Now.

1204
01:07:53,360 --> 01:07:55,040
Speaker 2: I know you could look at some of the advanced

1205
01:07:55,120 --> 01:07:58,320
Speaker 2: numbers and say the plus minus from last season and say, well,

1206
01:07:58,360 --> 01:08:00,880
Speaker 2: he was playing in some bad line ups and asked

1207
01:08:01,080 --> 01:08:04,920
Speaker 2: to anchor them, like he's still thirty one and not

1208
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 2: forty one or twenty one instead of forty one. So

1209
01:08:07,840 --> 01:08:10,960
Speaker 2: some of the plus minus numbers weren't great. He also

1210
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 2: finished sixth in MVP voting last season and was second

1211
01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:19,240
Speaker 2: in All NBA. If you're second in All NBA kind

1212
01:08:19,240 --> 01:08:21,200
Speaker 2: of means you're a top ten player in the league.

1213
01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:26,360
Speaker 2: And he still is productive at this age. Kareem was

1214
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:31,880
Speaker 2: averaging ten points five rebounds per game when he was

1215
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:36,400
Speaker 2: forty forty one. Now that's no slight as different as

1216
01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:40,400
Speaker 2: a big man. I still think it's impressive. Big men

1217
01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,880
Speaker 2: usually don't age that gracefully, they don't play that long.

1218
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 2: It's him and Robert Parrish. Robert Parrish played till he

1219
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:48,519
Speaker 2: was like, oh my god, I think forty four.

1220
01:08:48,520 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 3: Tink it easy.

1221
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:50,000
Speaker 1: Now I'm getting old.

1222
01:08:50,280 --> 01:08:53,599
Speaker 2: And he congratulated Lebron James on this achievement, Passing Kareem

1223
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:57,640
Speaker 2: in most makes in NBA history good enough for the

1224
01:08:57,720 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: Chief Robert Parrish. Well, Lebron's averaging twenty one points per game,

1225
01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: still shooting fifty one percent from the field. The three

1226
01:09:06,920 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 2: point shooting isn't there like it was last season. The

1227
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:11,439
Speaker 2: catch and shoot stuff that has hurt the Lakers to

1228
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:16,200
Speaker 2: a point, But really it's a poorly constructed team that

1229
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 2: has hurt them more than anything. And I don't know

1230
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,160
Speaker 2: if you saw that game against the Denver Nuggets that

1231
01:09:21,160 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 2: I alluded to earlier the other night. Yes, they bounced

1232
01:09:24,479 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: back the Lakers. They beat Indiana, a team that is

1233
01:09:29,160 --> 01:09:33,840
Speaker 2: trying to tank, clearly because their first round pick this

1234
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:37,120
Speaker 2: season top four protected. If it lands five through nine,

1235
01:09:37,160 --> 01:09:38,920
Speaker 2: it goes to the Clippers, so they need to be

1236
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:42,360
Speaker 2: bad to make sure it lands one through four. And

1237
01:09:42,439 --> 01:09:44,519
Speaker 2: the Lakers had like a ten point win over them,

1238
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:50,360
Speaker 2: where Luca dropped forty. But I don't blame Lebron for

1239
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,639
Speaker 2: the state of this team like many do. I actually

1240
01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:59,160
Speaker 2: would say, do you remember how they were before Lebron

1241
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 2: James got there? Do you remember that? Because they had

1242
01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:09,960
Speaker 2: five straight seasons where they averaged twenty five wins per year,

1243
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 2: A lot you lose a lot. They were averaging twenty

1244
01:10:16,439 --> 01:10:20,920
Speaker 2: five wins per year. Lebron came and ruined everything, ruin

1245
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:27,200
Speaker 2: what they were terrible. They gave Kobe that last contract.

1246
01:10:27,240 --> 01:10:30,280
Speaker 2: I get it. They want to do their stars the

1247
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,800
Speaker 2: right way because that will mean something down the road

1248
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:36,040
Speaker 2: with bringing in more superstars. You give them those contracts,

1249
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:37,680
Speaker 2: even on the back end of their career, and pay

1250
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 2: them all that money. He was coming off the Achilles injury,

1251
01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 2: and maybe that's part of the reason they got Lebron. Lakers.

1252
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 2: They attracted superstars. They're gonna treat them the right way.

1253
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 2: That's part of Lakers culture and brand. I'm just here

1254
01:10:54,840 --> 01:10:57,160
Speaker 2: to blow up some false narratives that they were in

1255
01:10:57,200 --> 01:10:59,720
Speaker 2: a good place before Lebron got there. For all the

1256
01:10:59,720 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 2: people that now hate on him and act like he

1257
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:08,639
Speaker 2: is the problem out there through you, Well, what's flowing

1258
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 2: the real problem probably that President of basketball Operations Rob Polenka.

1259
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:21,080
Speaker 2: Poor team construction, A guy who I don't know. I

1260
01:11:21,080 --> 01:11:23,760
Speaker 2: guess he just tripped into that championship they won in

1261
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 2: twenty twenty in the bubble, which I don't even really

1262
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 2: hate on. It's like they were the best. They had

1263
01:11:29,800 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 2: the best wrecord in the league before the hiatus. They

1264
01:11:32,200 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: had just beat Milwaukee beat the Clippers. They look pretty

1265
01:11:35,439 --> 01:11:40,080
Speaker 2: darn good before they went to Orlando, So I try

1266
01:11:40,120 --> 01:11:42,759
Speaker 2: not to hold that against him too much, even though

1267
01:11:42,960 --> 01:11:44,479
Speaker 2: you know, once in a while I take some dig

1268
01:11:44,479 --> 01:11:48,800
Speaker 2: at digs at Lakers fans. But Rob figured it out.

1269
01:11:48,840 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: Then they were great defensively. They had all these big

1270
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:56,479
Speaker 2: men protecting the pain, Anthony Davis, JaVale McGee, Dwight Howard,

1271
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,599
Speaker 2: and then immediately after they won, they kind of started

1272
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:04,800
Speaker 2: to go away from it. Let's get Montrez Harrow, Old

1273
01:12:04,840 --> 01:12:09,200
Speaker 2: Marcasol then as Shrewder in there than the Westbrook trade

1274
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 2: the next season, and they never really recover from that.

1275
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:16,400
Speaker 2: They're still paying for the price for that. Is that

1276
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:21,320
Speaker 2: on Lebron? Is that lead? GM? Do you give Rob

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01:12:21,400 --> 01:12:24,760
Speaker 2: Polenka whenever a move turns up Roses and Lebron the

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01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: credit when it goes the other way? How do you

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01:12:28,960 --> 01:12:33,599
Speaker 2: divvy it up the blame. I'm coming after Rob at

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01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:37,760
Speaker 2: this point, I think I've seen enough. If I'm a

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01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:40,679
Speaker 2: Laker fan, and I said this earlier today on AM

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01:12:40,720 --> 01:12:44,719
Speaker 2: five to seventy, our local affiliate in Southern California, if

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01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:47,200
Speaker 2: they lose in five games in the first round again,

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01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,920
Speaker 2: and they don't have a playable center again after what

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01:12:52,080 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: happened against Minnesota last year in the first round, where

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01:12:55,200 --> 01:12:57,840
Speaker 2: JJ Rednick completely went away from Jackson Hayes who is

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01:12:57,880 --> 01:13:00,760
Speaker 2: currently out playing DeAndre Ayden, who was to help them.

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01:13:01,680 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 2: I don't know about Rob Polinka being long with the job,

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01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:07,640
Speaker 2: you're out. I'm not rooting for that to happen. I

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01:13:07,720 --> 01:13:12,600
Speaker 2: just don't know. With the infusion and integration of Dodgers'

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01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: front office men being there and them having Mark Walter

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01:13:18,439 --> 01:13:24,439
Speaker 2: controlling the franchise, if Rob Polenka maybe in a position

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01:13:24,479 --> 01:13:29,040
Speaker 2: where I don't know, it's a precarious one, tenuous one.

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01:13:29,120 --> 01:13:31,920
Speaker 2: They better not losing five to Minnesota again. That would

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01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,559
Speaker 2: be a pretty glaring issue. Oh wait a second. We

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01:13:35,560 --> 01:13:38,800
Speaker 2: were supposed to fix what happened last year. We brought

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01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,439
Speaker 2: in DeAndre eight and to help us against big, physical

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01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:45,000
Speaker 2: teams with athleticism, and if he's unplayable too, just like

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Speaker 2: Jackson Hayes. I'm not putting that on JJ Reddick. I'm

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01:13:48,640 --> 01:13:51,479
Speaker 2: not putting that on Lebron or Luca or Austin Reeves.

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01:13:52,520 --> 01:13:58,720
Speaker 2: I think I'm looking at Rob Polenka, so maybe contextualize

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01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:01,400
Speaker 2: things a little bit more of just saying it's Lebron's

1303
01:14:01,400 --> 01:14:08,280
Speaker 2: fault all the time for everything, even though yeah, he

1304
01:14:08,479 --> 01:14:11,560
Speaker 2: Rich Paul and Clutch Sports can be kind of annoying sometimes.

1305
01:14:12,360 --> 01:14:16,559
Speaker 2: And Rich Paul loves himself, his own podcast and his

1306
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: own media personality that he's developed. It's wild. I don't

1307
01:14:22,439 --> 01:14:27,479
Speaker 2: think he should probably be critiquing Austin Reeves. But Lebron

1308
01:14:27,560 --> 01:14:32,000
Speaker 2: on the court passing Kareem in this way, it's special.

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01:14:32,120 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 2: It's a milestone. It's not nothing. Coming up next, speaking

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01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:39,080
Speaker 2: of not nothing, I got rear ended in the weirdest

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01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 2: way the other day. That's not sexual. I gotta talk

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01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,639
Speaker 2: about it. I'm out of Mosland. This is FNA.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio. You know you look

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Speaker 1: familiar to F and A.

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Speaker 2: Cotton f and A on FSR. I'm Adam Monsland. Welcome back.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next hour. You know what. It works so well?

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01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:32,880
Speaker 2: Last week a color driven segment that we're gonna run

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01:15:32,880 --> 01:15:38,639
Speaker 2: it back. Let's let's play it two, Ernie Banks. I mean, yeah, well,

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01:15:38,680 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: we'll get your calls eight seven, seven ninety nine on

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01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:48,720
Speaker 2: Fox on what on Guys who Underachieve malcontents, Players with

1327
01:15:48,760 --> 01:15:51,160
Speaker 2: all the potential and all the talent in the world

1328
01:15:51,960 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 2: that just can never figure it out. I don't know,

1329
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,000
Speaker 2: Like DeAndre Ayton, I'm sorry. I don't mean to make

1330
01:15:59,000 --> 01:16:02,040
Speaker 2: this show so late Central tonight, but it's going to

1331
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:04,880
Speaker 2: have to be because we might talk about the backlash

1332
01:16:04,920 --> 01:16:08,759
Speaker 2: coming Luka Dontrich's way as well. I know producer Brandon

1333
01:16:08,800 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 2: has got some intel on that his antennas are up.

1334
01:16:11,880 --> 01:16:15,840
Speaker 2: Speaking of antenna's, okay, maybe we don't get antenna's on

1335
01:16:15,880 --> 01:16:21,880
Speaker 2: cars anymore. Maybe uh it's all digital. But I don't know.

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01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:24,559
Speaker 2: Maybe mine fell off the other day when I got

1337
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,360
Speaker 2: rear ended. I don't remember. Did I have an antenna?

1338
01:16:27,680 --> 01:16:32,360
Speaker 2: I got rear ended, not just like you know, at

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01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: a stoplight, pulling into the suicide lane or something like that.

1340
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:41,080
Speaker 2: I got rear ended and I'm still hot about it obviously. Yeah,

1341
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:44,719
Speaker 2: I'm in Rick James F your couch mode. Somebody said,

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01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:49,200
Speaker 2: F You're Kia. You're Kia K five in the drive

1343
01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:55,719
Speaker 2: through a basket, Robbins, that happened. I'm minding my own

1344
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 2: business in the drive through, checking out the thirty two flavors,

1345
01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 2: ready to make my selection, and all of a sudden,

1346
01:17:05,840 --> 01:17:12,040
Speaker 2: it feels like in earthquake. WHOA No, I wasn't celebrating it.

1347
01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:16,200
Speaker 2: I got rear ended by somebody else backing out of

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01:17:16,240 --> 01:17:22,400
Speaker 2: their parking spot. My car in pristine meant condition, a

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01:17:22,520 --> 01:17:27,519
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three Kiak five that I specially ordered. I

1350
01:17:27,560 --> 01:17:32,000
Speaker 2: thought about calling the cops. Believe me, I did. I

1351
01:17:32,160 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 2: was just look.

1352
01:17:34,520 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: Police coming straight from the underground.

1353
01:17:38,439 --> 01:17:41,960
Speaker 2: It was the old what's your insurance? What's your phone number?

1354
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,240
Speaker 2: Who's at fault here? Let me tell you who's in fault.

1355
01:17:46,520 --> 01:17:49,800
Speaker 2: The guy that backed into me, and not only did

1356
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,120
Speaker 2: he back into me from a parking spot to the

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01:17:52,200 --> 01:17:57,160
Speaker 2: left of the drive through line, he tried to say

1358
01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,400
Speaker 2: that I was backing out of the parking spot or

1359
01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:03,240
Speaker 2: the park the drive through, Like who's backing out of

1360
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,400
Speaker 2: a drive through? If you back out of a drive through,

1361
01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:07,160
Speaker 2: you're probably gonna hit the car behind you. Of course

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01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 2: I wasn't backing out of the drive through. He lied.

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01:18:09,520 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 1: I wish.

1364
01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,160
Speaker 2: Oh he lied straight through his teeth, and that's what's

1365
01:18:14,200 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 2: got me hot here. You guys been in one of

1366
01:18:17,200 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 2: these insurance battles before. I can't get Mercury insurance to

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01:18:21,160 --> 01:18:24,640
Speaker 2: pick up the damn phone. I can't get this. I

1368
01:18:24,720 --> 01:18:29,160
Speaker 2: went straight to the autobody repair store immediately after to

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01:18:29,160 --> 01:18:32,080
Speaker 2: get an estimate. Now, I still got my two scoops

1370
01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:34,360
Speaker 2: of chocolate peanut butter ice cream from Basket Robbins. Of

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01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:39,439
Speaker 2: course I was already there, but this guy lies and

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01:18:39,560 --> 01:18:42,479
Speaker 2: tries to act like I was backing out of the

1373
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 2: drive through, Like if there's a drive through, I'm definitely

1374
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 2: not backing out of it's basking Robbins.

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01:18:47,680 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 8: You lie.

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01:18:48,720 --> 01:18:51,600
Speaker 2: No one's backing out of that, and there shouldn't be

1377
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:54,559
Speaker 2: Basketing Robbins drive throughs to begin with, especially within like

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01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:58,439
Speaker 2: a thousand feet of my apartment. I didn't know they

1379
01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,920
Speaker 2: could do that. It's not McDonald's, it's not Burger King.

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01:19:02,240 --> 01:19:06,760
Speaker 2: It's a Baskin Robbins drive through. And I kind of

1381
01:19:06,840 --> 01:19:10,719
Speaker 2: a sweet tooth, and we need some law and order here, Okay,

1382
01:19:12,320 --> 01:19:14,880
Speaker 2: don't make it that accessible to get ice cream where

1383
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 2: I can just sit in my car and wait for it.

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01:19:18,040 --> 01:19:21,160
Speaker 2: That's too easy. That's some form of entrapment. I'm telling you.

1385
01:19:22,680 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 2: So the guy and I exchange phone numbers, I'm like,

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01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:30,960
Speaker 2: if you tell, if you tell your insurance company that

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01:19:32,200 --> 01:19:34,880
Speaker 2: I was backing up, and then I'm at fault here.

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01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:39,759
Speaker 2: You know what I'm gonna have to do. I'm gonna

1389
01:19:39,760 --> 01:19:42,559
Speaker 2: pull that security cam footage. I see that camera up

1390
01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:45,400
Speaker 2: in the corner and it's pointed right at the drive

1391
01:19:45,439 --> 01:19:49,439
Speaker 2: through for situations like this. And while that was an

1392
01:19:49,439 --> 01:19:51,880
Speaker 2: empty thread at the time, because I wasn't sure how

1393
01:19:51,960 --> 01:19:54,559
Speaker 2: quickly they erased it. And it took me about four

1394
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,720
Speaker 2: days to talk to the owner of Baskin Robbins. Guess what,

1395
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,200
Speaker 2: I got the security footage and I caught his ass

1396
01:20:03,240 --> 01:20:08,719
Speaker 2: in four K backing into my beautiful, once pristine Kia

1397
01:20:08,800 --> 01:20:13,960
Speaker 2: K five. That is my only win of this week.

1398
01:20:18,479 --> 01:20:22,479
Speaker 2: I will not be paying my deductible, not with the

1399
01:20:22,520 --> 01:20:28,040
Speaker 2: footage that I acquired. Okay, there's his story, there's my story,

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01:20:28,120 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 2: and then there's this security camera footage, and that is

1401
01:20:31,000 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 2: called the truth. That is what happened. And yeah, maybe

1402
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,920
Speaker 2: this is a personal issue, maybe you don't care, but

1403
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:43,320
Speaker 2: we've all been in these situations and now I'm like, man,

1404
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,320
Speaker 2: I wish I had my whole life on surveillance. I

1405
01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:47,640
Speaker 2: was right so many times and I couldn't prove it,

1406
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,160
Speaker 2: But this time I can. And so now I just

1407
01:20:51,200 --> 01:20:53,439
Speaker 2: need you know, his insurance company to actually pick up

1408
01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,760
Speaker 2: the phone so I can get the emails. I can

1409
01:20:55,800 --> 01:20:59,280
Speaker 2: send the footage and then I win. Right case closed.

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01:20:59,800 --> 01:21:03,680
Speaker 2: That's it. That's a slam dunk got him back it

1411
01:21:03,720 --> 01:21:06,320
Speaker 2: into me. I'm not moving, my tires aren't spinning. How

1412
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:09,440
Speaker 2: could I be going into reverse? Like you said, I'm stationary,

1413
01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:13,360
Speaker 2: I'm idol, I'm parked. Basically, I was looking at my

1414
01:21:13,479 --> 01:21:17,479
Speaker 2: chops waiting for the ice cream, and it did taste

1415
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,040
Speaker 2: pretty damn good after being rear ented. That was That

1416
01:21:21,160 --> 01:21:24,360
Speaker 2: was a special edition of chocolate peanut butter from Basket Robbins,

1417
01:21:24,400 --> 01:21:28,559
Speaker 2: my personal favorite. I'm out of Oslin. This is FNA

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01:21:28,680 --> 01:21:34,240
Speaker 2: on FSR. We're taking your phone calls on Malcontents and Sports. Next,

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01:21:34,680 --> 01:21:38,040
Speaker 2: it is FNA on FSR on Fox Sports Radio. Here.

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01:21:38,120 --> 01:21:41,880
Speaker 2: That's redundant. FSR stands for Fox Sports Radio. I'm out

1421
01:21:41,880 --> 01:21:49,760
Speaker 2: of Osland. The f of FNA is out tonight. Man's

1422
01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:52,680
Speaker 2: Matt money Smith's gonna call in and talk Chargers. Are

1423
01:21:52,680 --> 01:21:56,720
Speaker 2: they concerned about these Raiders moves the Chiefs? I don't

1424
01:21:56,720 --> 01:22:03,000
Speaker 2: think so. Coming up later, Luka Doncic, How do I

1425
01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,960
Speaker 2: know the Lakers are the most entitled franchise in the

1426
01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,640
Speaker 2: history of sports because they got Luka Doncis for just

1427
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:12,680
Speaker 2: about nothing, and now it's already what have you done

1428
01:22:12,680 --> 01:22:18,920
Speaker 2: for me? Lately? They're trying to blame him for their problems. Now,

1429
01:22:18,920 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: I know he dropped forty four to that against the Pacers,

1430
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:23,599
Speaker 2: but nobody cares. They need to prove they can actually

1431
01:22:23,640 --> 01:22:26,439
Speaker 2: beat good teams. They're four and twelve against teams with

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01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:30,400
Speaker 2: a winning percentage above six hundred that wins sixty percent

1433
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:34,960
Speaker 2: of their games. Kevin, though, had this brilliant idea, and

1434
01:22:35,000 --> 01:22:36,760
Speaker 2: I really wish he was here for it, But we'll

1435
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 2: be able to double up on it in a later

1436
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:41,400
Speaker 2: time because I need his input and I want input

1437
01:22:41,439 --> 01:22:44,800
Speaker 2: from you guys. We don't often take calls, but when

1438
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:46,960
Speaker 2: we do, they're good calls.

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01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:47,720
Speaker 4: Call.

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01:22:48,400 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 2: I know we'll get to them. Eight seven, seven ninety

1441
01:22:51,040 --> 01:22:57,160
Speaker 2: nine on Fox because this subject is also somehow Lakers related. Oh,

1442
01:22:57,200 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 2: it's all about the Lakers. Yeah, sometimes it is, unfortunately,

1443
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:04,160
Speaker 2: but in a negative way here. We're coming after the

1444
01:23:04,240 --> 01:23:09,479
Speaker 2: Lakers tonight. They're worldwide, they're one of the most popular

1445
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,880
Speaker 2: franchises in the history of the universe. They can take

1446
01:23:12,920 --> 01:23:17,800
Speaker 2: the pain and they're gonna take it because they have

1447
01:23:18,360 --> 01:23:22,400
Speaker 2: a guy on their team that is our jumping off point.

1448
01:23:22,600 --> 01:23:25,519
Speaker 2: Because he ain't jumping enough for those rebounds out there.

1449
01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,759
Speaker 2: DeAndre Ayden, it's time to get into some DeAndre Hayden.

1450
01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 2: Don't give in to hate now. I know it's very

1451
01:23:33,560 --> 01:23:37,880
Speaker 2: popular to do, and I actually was defending him in

1452
01:23:37,920 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: the pickup when it happened because it was only for

1453
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:42,040
Speaker 2: eight million dollars.

1454
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:43,880
Speaker 7: Played that to me and his money.

1455
01:23:44,520 --> 01:23:46,920
Speaker 2: Now it's a player option next season for eight million

1456
01:23:46,960 --> 01:23:51,439
Speaker 2: for aiden m. You wish that was a team option

1457
01:23:51,560 --> 01:23:55,240
Speaker 2: right now if you're a Laker fan. But how bad

1458
01:23:55,280 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 2: could he be? Just eight million part of the non

1459
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 2: taxpayer mid level exception or whatever they had to use,

1460
01:24:03,320 --> 01:24:06,120
Speaker 2: and they needed help in the front court. Jackson Hayes

1461
01:24:06,439 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 2: was not gonna be enough for them. Obviously wasn't against

1462
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:14,160
Speaker 2: Minnesota in the playoff series last year. But DeAndre Ayden

1463
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:18,400
Speaker 2: is a former number one draft pick out of Arizona

1464
01:24:19,200 --> 01:24:23,760
Speaker 2: and he went to Phoenix and to be Fair. His

1465
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:26,760
Speaker 2: first couple of years weren't horrible, and in fact, he

1466
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:29,880
Speaker 2: was a part a part of the reason they got

1467
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:33,040
Speaker 2: to the NBA Finals in twenty twenty one. They got

1468
01:24:33,120 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 2: up two zero and then it is shot blocked to

1469
01:24:35,920 --> 01:24:39,360
Speaker 2: hell by Giannis's and Acumpo and they lost four straight.

1470
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,720
Speaker 2: But he was pretty good. I remember the value intimately

1471
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 2: against the Clippers, not to the extent that Michael Wilbon

1472
01:24:48,439 --> 01:24:50,799
Speaker 2: and Steven A. Smith did when they had that reaction

1473
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:53,920
Speaker 2: there court side. I wasn't in the arena for it,

1474
01:24:54,040 --> 01:24:57,680
Speaker 2: but I still felt the pain from Afar. Believe me.

1475
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:00,840
Speaker 2: I thought the Clippers were at least win that game

1476
01:25:00,840 --> 01:25:03,200
Speaker 2: and not go down two in that series, and instead

1477
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: they threw it up the DeAndre Aydon skying in throw

1478
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:10,840
Speaker 2: down to win a game, and then it happened to

1479
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:13,920
Speaker 2: the Clippers again last season with Aaron Gordon in Game four.

1480
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:16,719
Speaker 2: I have some bad memories and I have some real

1481
01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:19,559
Speaker 2: issues tonight. The Clippers, like just had maybe their worst

1482
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:22,680
Speaker 2: loss ever of twenty five with nine minutes left in

1483
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,519
Speaker 2: the third quarter. But it's not about me, not at all.

1484
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,720
Speaker 2: It's about DeAndre Ayden and who we thought he was

1485
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:33,680
Speaker 2: going to be be based upon plays like that, we

1486
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:36,160
Speaker 2: thought he was going to live up to his expectations.

1487
01:25:36,720 --> 01:25:40,479
Speaker 2: He has a jumper. He's more skilled than you would

1488
01:25:40,520 --> 01:25:45,599
Speaker 2: think by the way he's been used as of late.

1489
01:25:47,439 --> 01:25:52,120
Speaker 2: He has a bag to some degree. The problem is

1490
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:57,720
Speaker 2: he's got no dog none. That rib cage just got

1491
01:25:57,760 --> 01:25:59,760
Speaker 2: the wrong type of dogs. It's the hot dogs in

1492
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:05,400
Speaker 2: there with him. Like he's got no will, no want to,

1493
01:26:06,600 --> 01:26:10,840
Speaker 2: no desire to be great, no passion out there. And

1494
01:26:10,840 --> 01:26:14,000
Speaker 2: that's why they let him go, and Phoenix sent him

1495
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:18,599
Speaker 2: to Portland, and then Portland said we'll buy him out

1496
01:26:18,680 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 2: of his contract. Think it was thirty five million, and

1497
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:28,519
Speaker 2: the Lakers said, well, for thirty five million, we wouldn't

1498
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:30,880
Speaker 2: want a guy like that. He ain't worth that money.

1499
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:35,479
Speaker 2: But for eight million, now it's a bargain. Now we're

1500
01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 2: in good shape. And after the first six weeks of

1501
01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:43,360
Speaker 2: the season, well they found out what everybody else found

1502
01:26:43,360 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 2: out with DeAndre aid he's kind of a mount content.

1503
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 2: He doesn't seem to care enough. He missed a game

1504
01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:56,519
Speaker 2: in Portland because of snow, like I can't go to

1505
01:26:56,560 --> 01:27:00,680
Speaker 2: school today. There's too much snow outside, mom. We can

1506
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:06,000
Speaker 2: use that excuse, right. Aiden did that as a professional athlete.

1507
01:27:06,280 --> 01:27:09,679
Speaker 2: He could own a snowmobile. I'm sure there are many

1508
01:27:09,680 --> 01:27:12,240
Speaker 2: ways to get there. His teammates got there, he couldn't

1509
01:27:12,280 --> 01:27:14,880
Speaker 2: get there. That tells you all you need to know.

1510
01:27:16,360 --> 01:27:19,719
Speaker 2: But so does this quote from him this week talking

1511
01:27:19,720 --> 01:27:26,559
Speaker 2: about how he's not Clint Cappella, as if we didn't

1512
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:31,640
Speaker 2: know that, as if he's framing it like I'm not

1513
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:34,840
Speaker 2: just some rim runner and rim defender out there. I

1514
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,120
Speaker 2: got to eat a little bit, you got to play

1515
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:40,200
Speaker 2: through me some. I got more to my game than

1516
01:27:40,240 --> 01:27:48,280
Speaker 2: Clint Capella. Do you sometimes less is more. I'd rather

1517
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:52,559
Speaker 2: have things simplified where it makes it easy out there

1518
01:27:53,720 --> 01:27:56,719
Speaker 2: for you to play your role. Because Clint Capella knew

1519
01:27:56,720 --> 01:28:00,960
Speaker 2: his role still does. But in his prime, click Upella

1520
01:28:01,120 --> 01:28:05,640
Speaker 2: was averaging like fifteen and fifteen in Houston. He was

1521
01:28:05,720 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: perfect for what they needed. He would be perfect for

1522
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:13,719
Speaker 2: the Lakers today. They'll do too much out there. It's fine.

1523
01:28:14,520 --> 01:28:18,720
Speaker 2: Just finish plays, protect the rim, and get rebounds. That's it.

1524
01:28:19,840 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 2: That's what they thought they could get out of DeAndre Aiden.

1525
01:28:23,479 --> 01:28:28,120
Speaker 2: But apparently he still feels like there's more to him.

1526
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:33,040
Speaker 2: Still at twenty seven, nobody's investing in him like they're

1527
01:28:33,040 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 2: going to try to build a championship team around him.

1528
01:28:35,200 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 2: I don't know how delusional he's or why he's being

1529
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,960
Speaker 2: so delusional about this, but I know Gilbert Arenas had

1530
01:28:41,960 --> 01:28:46,200
Speaker 2: some thoughts Gil's Arena, wherever he had this, He's always

1531
01:28:46,240 --> 01:28:49,240
Speaker 2: got thoughts. But for once, I guess he's not wrong.

1532
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:54,439
Speaker 5: Here'll just shut up and just get your buckets.

1533
01:28:54,439 --> 01:28:55,639
Speaker 7: That's basically what they're seeing.

1534
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:58,680
Speaker 3: But I mean for the fourth option, fourteen and.

1535
01:28:58,720 --> 01:29:02,360
Speaker 9: Ten shooting fifth, I mean you're talking about a guy,

1536
01:29:02,400 --> 01:29:05,519
Speaker 9: oh no, shooting sixty Yeah, shooting sixty six percent.

1537
01:29:05,720 --> 01:29:07,000
Speaker 3: Too used to shoot.

1538
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:10,120
Speaker 9: Eleven, almost twelve shots a game. He can complain a

1539
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:12,519
Speaker 9: little bit. Man, I'm not mad. I'm not mad at

1540
01:29:12,520 --> 01:29:14,599
Speaker 9: the complaint. I really, I'm not really not, especially when

1541
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,680
Speaker 9: you're talking about guys who can pass the ball but

1542
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:18,640
Speaker 9: they don't need you to create because they create that.

1543
01:29:18,680 --> 01:29:20,800
Speaker 9: It's just one of those it's just one of those

1544
01:29:21,880 --> 01:29:24,160
Speaker 9: if the situations, and he's going to lose that that

1545
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:27,400
Speaker 9: situation because obviously the media is going to kill him

1546
01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,599
Speaker 9: for it because they have lucal lebron ausin Reeves.

1547
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:32,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was wrong?

1548
01:29:32,680 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 4: Am I wrong?

1549
01:29:33,520 --> 01:29:38,519
Speaker 2: Gil was wrong? Like sometimes people want to zag or

1550
01:29:38,600 --> 01:29:40,639
Speaker 2: just be a contrarian for the sake of it, because

1551
01:29:40,680 --> 01:29:43,320
Speaker 2: everybody's going one way and they don't want to be

1552
01:29:43,360 --> 01:29:45,559
Speaker 2: a part of the herd mentality. This is one of

1553
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,919
Speaker 2: those times where it's okay, where it's plain and obvious

1554
01:29:49,720 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 2: that DeAndre Ayton complaining out there isn't the move. He's

1555
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,519
Speaker 2: not doing enough, He's not doing what they need him

1556
01:29:58,520 --> 01:30:02,240
Speaker 2: to do. He failed to me there. Sure, he's shooting

1557
01:30:03,000 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 2: sixty seven percent from the field, he's getting less than

1558
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:13,920
Speaker 2: ten boards per game. His defense is spotty at best.

1559
01:30:17,400 --> 01:30:20,519
Speaker 2: This is a Lakers team that needs defense, that needs

1560
01:30:20,600 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: heart and hustle, guys who want to do the little things.

1561
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:30,559
Speaker 2: Marcus smartest trying. Aiden doesn't seem to care about what

1562
01:30:30,680 --> 01:30:35,639
Speaker 2: actually impacts and wins games. He's probably trying to recoup

1563
01:30:35,640 --> 01:30:39,360
Speaker 2: his value, thinking, Huh, I'm gonna opt out of this

1564
01:30:39,479 --> 01:30:41,840
Speaker 2: eight million dollars for next season. I'm gonna get a

1565
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,920
Speaker 2: bigger deal from somebody else. The only way to do

1566
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,160
Speaker 2: that is to be featured more out there. Well, they're

1567
01:30:46,200 --> 01:30:52,839
Speaker 2: not gonna feature you, Yeah, your fifth option, sixth seventh.

1568
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm putting Ruie ahead of him. There

1569
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,599
Speaker 2: are other guys that I'd rather see progress that at

1570
01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: this point could have a higher upside than DeAndre Aiden,

1571
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:08,559
Speaker 2: And this is on him. He doesn't care enough. And

1572
01:31:08,600 --> 01:31:11,200
Speaker 2: he's not the only guy in this league that has

1573
01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 2: been like this. He's not the only player in sports

1574
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:17,360
Speaker 2: that has been like this that has never fulfilled his

1575
01:31:17,400 --> 01:31:22,160
Speaker 2: full potential because the talent is undeniable. He does have

1576
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 2: more to his game than Clint Capela. But Clint Capella

1577
01:31:25,080 --> 01:31:29,120
Speaker 2: refined a few things really well, and you're kind of

1578
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,920
Speaker 2: a jack of all trades, master or none. And even

1579
01:31:31,960 --> 01:31:36,080
Speaker 2: that's too high a praise for DeAndre Aiden, Sir? Who

1580
01:31:36,120 --> 01:31:41,120
Speaker 2: are some other guys like that in sports history? You know,

1581
01:31:41,160 --> 01:31:46,439
Speaker 2: I can automatically go to another Laker here played uh

1582
01:31:47,400 --> 01:31:50,400
Speaker 2: mid two thousands to late two thousands, then was traded

1583
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 2: to Philadelphia. Andrew Bynum. Andrew Bidhm had more to his game. Hell,

1584
01:31:58,560 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 2: maybe they beat the Celtics in two thousand and eight.

1585
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:05,679
Speaker 2: If he wasn't hurt, did he care about playing about

1586
01:32:05,720 --> 01:32:09,639
Speaker 2: playing hard all the time? Last time I remember him,

1587
01:32:10,160 --> 01:32:13,080
Speaker 2: he at least played hard when he hip chicked JJ

1588
01:32:13,200 --> 01:32:16,599
Speaker 2: Burrea on their way to being swept in the twenty

1589
01:32:16,720 --> 01:32:21,120
Speaker 2: eleven second round. I think Dallas Mavericks team that would

1590
01:32:21,160 --> 01:32:23,400
Speaker 2: go on to win the championship that year. That was

1591
01:32:23,439 --> 01:32:26,160
Speaker 2: the last I heard of Andrew Bidam And I know

1592
01:32:26,200 --> 01:32:28,640
Speaker 2: he had some injuries, and I know he had some

1593
01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:34,160
Speaker 2: gray hairs at a young age. But he was really talented,

1594
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:38,000
Speaker 2: really good. I don't know if he loved basketball. I

1595
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:41,240
Speaker 2: don't know if he loved playing. You to talk about

1596
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:45,760
Speaker 2: computers a lot, nothing wrong with that, I stop all

1597
01:32:45,800 --> 01:32:50,160
Speaker 2: the download him. But did he fulfill his potential?

1598
01:32:50,760 --> 01:32:50,960
Speaker 7: No?

1599
01:32:53,120 --> 01:32:59,080
Speaker 2: How about a guy like Yasio Puigue in baseball? Jason

1600
01:32:59,200 --> 01:33:03,800
Speaker 2: Smith was the first to get on the Yassio Puig

1601
01:33:03,960 --> 01:33:08,160
Speaker 2: is going to be done in a year bandwagon. And

1602
01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,519
Speaker 2: I thought it was a hot take at first, and Jason,

1603
01:33:11,240 --> 01:33:13,200
Speaker 2: you were right. I was wrong?

1604
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:13,920
Speaker 3: Am I wrong?

1605
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:21,280
Speaker 2: He would say Puigue is exhausting, He's mentally exhausting, and

1606
01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:24,720
Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened. And eventually he was out

1607
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:28,839
Speaker 2: of the league. With all that talent could throw baseball

1608
01:33:28,880 --> 01:33:35,360
Speaker 2: like Bo Jackson, insane athlete, was shot out of a

1609
01:33:35,439 --> 01:33:38,839
Speaker 2: cannon when he came on the scene with the Dodgers,

1610
01:33:39,600 --> 01:33:43,600
Speaker 2: and then a couple of years later he was gone.

1611
01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:46,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, he takes some bad advice. Did he

1612
01:33:46,760 --> 01:33:50,320
Speaker 2: not love the game enough? He didn't fulfill his potential.

1613
01:33:52,040 --> 01:33:56,519
Speaker 2: I think about somebody like Ryan Leif. Ryan Leif was talented.

1614
01:33:57,400 --> 01:33:59,559
Speaker 2: There are certain guys who are a bust because they're

1615
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:03,840
Speaker 2: talent doesn't translate to the next level. I don't think

1616
01:34:03,920 --> 01:34:07,719
Speaker 2: Ryan Leaf was that. I think it was he couldn't

1617
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:13,040
Speaker 2: handle criticism. He had that blow up in the locker

1618
01:34:13,120 --> 01:34:18,599
Speaker 2: room knock it Off. Was known for not doing much

1619
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:23,360
Speaker 2: film study, went and played golf a lot, didn't care,

1620
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:26,640
Speaker 2: didn't take it seriously, and then by the time he

1621
01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:29,800
Speaker 2: did well, he had a broken wrist. I think with

1622
01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:32,559
Speaker 2: the Tampa Bay Buccaneers he was starting to show signs

1623
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:35,680
Speaker 2: of life and then he got injured and broke down,

1624
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,400
Speaker 2: and then obviously all sorts of other issues with him.

1625
01:34:38,479 --> 01:34:43,640
Speaker 2: But a lot of these guys, yes, it's drugs, a

1626
01:34:43,640 --> 01:34:47,240
Speaker 2: lot of them, and it's that simple five o'clock, frequent

1627
01:34:47,320 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 2: giveaway and it takes him out. Josh Hamilton could have

1628
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:56,800
Speaker 2: been Mickey Mantle. He had an addiction he couldn't beat.

1629
01:34:56,840 --> 01:35:01,120
Speaker 2: It came to the Angels Fell part. I still remember

1630
01:35:01,120 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 2: the home Run derby he was in. I remember Back

1631
01:35:04,720 --> 01:35:06,680
Speaker 2: to Back World series he was in what twenty ten

1632
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:08,920
Speaker 2: and twenty eleven. He's one of the best players I've

1633
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 2: ever seen. It's it been an easy Hall of Famer

1634
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:22,400
Speaker 2: didn't fulfill his potential. Drugs distractions, sad case. I think

1635
01:35:22,439 --> 01:35:26,599
Speaker 2: of nobody's gonna remember this guy. Rashad Anderson corner from

1636
01:35:26,640 --> 01:35:29,320
Speaker 2: the Carolina Panthers drafted and I think the year two

1637
01:35:29,360 --> 01:35:32,200
Speaker 2: thousand or two thousand and one. I know Terrell Owens

1638
01:35:32,200 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 2: took him to school in a game against the forty

1639
01:35:33,920 --> 01:35:35,760
Speaker 2: nine ers. But that guy had a ton of potential

1640
01:35:36,520 --> 01:35:38,960
Speaker 2: and then he got suspended for weed.

1641
01:35:39,080 --> 01:35:39,920
Speaker 1: Do you want to get hurt?

1642
01:35:40,920 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 2: That happened back.

1643
01:35:41,720 --> 01:35:42,759
Speaker 1: Then, crack attic.

1644
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:46,960
Speaker 2: Now it wasn't he was smoking too much marijuana. There was.

1645
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:49,240
Speaker 8: Now.

1646
01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 2: I know it's stupid and we progressed and sports leagues

1647
01:35:54,960 --> 01:35:57,639
Speaker 2: wouldn't be doing that nowadays. But you knew the rules

1648
01:35:57,640 --> 01:36:01,679
Speaker 2: still and you got to know and have priorities out there.

1649
01:36:03,040 --> 01:36:08,000
Speaker 2: Some didn't have it. Rashid Wallace should have been a

1650
01:36:08,000 --> 01:36:13,719
Speaker 2: Hall of Famer, talented enough to be hard man didn't

1651
01:36:13,760 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 2: care enough. It came and went. Yes, two thousand and

1652
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:21,280
Speaker 2: four happened with the Pistons where he put it all together,

1653
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:27,160
Speaker 2: one of my favorite teams. But I don't think he

1654
01:36:27,240 --> 01:36:32,599
Speaker 2: ever averaged twenty per game. Would you believe that Rashid

1655
01:36:32,640 --> 01:36:37,800
Speaker 2: Wallace with the Portland Trailblazers and all the talent they had.

1656
01:36:37,880 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 2: Bonzi Wells one of those guys maybe you could say

1657
01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 2: didn't fulfill his potential. Very good player. Yeah, he never

1658
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,679
Speaker 2: hit twenty per game. Oh you know what, my bad.

1659
01:36:47,960 --> 01:36:53,320
Speaker 2: He did for the Atlanta Hawks, the one single game

1660
01:36:53,400 --> 01:36:56,240
Speaker 2: he played for them, you can say he averaged twenty

1661
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:01,960
Speaker 2: for them, right before he was redirected to the Detroit Pistons.

1662
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:07,559
Speaker 2: Detroit Basketball. There's so many of these cases where you

1663
01:37:07,560 --> 01:37:10,240
Speaker 2: scratch your head and you're like, why do I want

1664
01:37:10,240 --> 01:37:17,000
Speaker 2: it more than them? Sometimes it's frustrating DeAndre Aiden. That's

1665
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:20,920
Speaker 2: what he's doing to Laker fans right now. But everybody

1666
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:25,200
Speaker 2: else had seen that story before. There was a wide

1667
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:31,840
Speaker 2: receiver back in the day named David Boston. He was

1668
01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:38,240
Speaker 2: a physical freak, an absolute stud and people suspected steroids

1669
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,200
Speaker 2: and I think he got hit at the airport for

1670
01:37:41,320 --> 01:37:47,160
Speaker 2: GHB testing positive or something. He also, yeah, was accused

1671
01:37:47,200 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 2: of punching a male airline ticket agent who wouldn't let

1672
01:37:51,240 --> 01:37:54,200
Speaker 2: him board a plane. That's not smart.

1673
01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:56,760
Speaker 7: You could learn a lot from a dummy, But.

1674
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:01,840
Speaker 2: My god, he was so talented. Ask Seawood. He took

1675
01:38:02,040 --> 01:38:07,600
Speaker 2: Prime Raiders Seawood to school for like one hundred and

1676
01:38:07,640 --> 01:38:09,960
Speaker 2: fifty yards When he was with the Arizona Cardinals. I

1677
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:13,920
Speaker 2: think Jake Plummer was throwing him the football. He could

1678
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:15,719
Speaker 2: have been a Hall of famer, hall of fame talent,

1679
01:38:16,400 --> 01:38:21,200
Speaker 2: could never put it all together. Darryl Strawberry is a

1680
01:38:21,200 --> 01:38:24,640
Speaker 2: good one. I mean as good as he was a

1681
01:38:24,720 --> 01:38:31,160
Speaker 2: straw dog. There was a lot more meat on that bone.

1682
01:38:31,800 --> 01:38:35,040
Speaker 2: I don't even know if I should say Lenn Bias

1683
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,240
Speaker 2: he could have been. I mean he was punkin Jordan

1684
01:38:40,439 --> 01:38:45,600
Speaker 2: at Maryland, and Jordan was at North Carolina drug Overdelse

1685
01:38:46,200 --> 01:38:52,799
Speaker 2: sad story. That's a separate category. But I'm talking about

1686
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,240
Speaker 2: guys who couldn't get out of their own way, like

1687
01:38:56,280 --> 01:39:00,240
Speaker 2: DeAndre Aiden, that could be doing more for their squad,

1688
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 2: that could be helping their team that never peaked like

1689
01:39:05,520 --> 01:39:10,960
Speaker 2: they should have. We're not asking him. I don't think

1690
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 2: Lakers are to play like a number one option. They

1691
01:39:16,280 --> 01:39:21,000
Speaker 2: are asking him to scale down his game and focus

1692
01:39:21,040 --> 01:39:24,280
Speaker 2: in on a few different things that could really impact winning.

1693
01:39:25,439 --> 01:39:29,800
Speaker 2: And apparently he thinks more of himself. He's not Clint

1694
01:39:29,840 --> 01:39:35,200
Speaker 2: Capella like being Clint Capella is some insult? Are you

1695
01:39:35,240 --> 01:39:41,440
Speaker 2: kidding me? Clint Capella was the real deal. That Rockets team.

1696
01:39:41,840 --> 01:39:44,200
Speaker 2: They could have won the championship. They're one of the

1697
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:46,479
Speaker 2: best teams ever. They happened to run into the best

1698
01:39:46,479 --> 01:39:48,679
Speaker 2: team ever in the Golden State Warriors with Kevin Durant.

1699
01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:55,599
Speaker 2: That was their only fault. Wrong Plays, Wrong Time eight

1700
01:39:55,680 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 2: seven seven ninety nine on Fox. If you know, some

1701
01:39:58,280 --> 01:40:02,920
Speaker 2: malcontents are guys who never fulfilled their potential, who just

1702
01:40:03,000 --> 01:40:07,400
Speaker 2: could never get it, could never figure it out, who

1703
01:40:07,400 --> 01:40:11,120
Speaker 2: may have some regrets later on because they let a

1704
01:40:11,200 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 2: promising bright career, you know that fork in the road

1705
01:40:15,360 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 2: they went down the wrong way. Hey look, DeAndre and

1706
01:40:19,479 --> 01:40:22,599
Speaker 2: millionaire making plenty of money. He has to decide about

1707
01:40:22,640 --> 01:40:25,040
Speaker 2: opting in on eight million dollars.

1708
01:40:25,520 --> 01:40:26,320
Speaker 4: And his money.

1709
01:40:26,400 --> 01:40:30,479
Speaker 2: It ain't the end of the world. It's just you

1710
01:40:30,560 --> 01:40:36,200
Speaker 2: always want to see these great athletes get to that

1711
01:40:36,320 --> 01:40:40,720
Speaker 2: point that you know was out there for him. It was,

1712
01:40:42,080 --> 01:40:44,120
Speaker 2: but for one reason or another, it didn't happen for

1713
01:40:44,160 --> 01:40:47,120
Speaker 2: some of these guys. And I'm talking about the guys

1714
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:51,280
Speaker 2: that had the self inflicted wounds. They were their own

1715
01:40:51,320 --> 01:40:54,160
Speaker 2: worst enemies in some ways, Maybe we can play lit

1716
01:40:54,240 --> 01:40:56,360
Speaker 2: my own worst enemy coming back on the other side.

1717
01:40:56,520 --> 01:40:59,639
Speaker 2: I'm out of Mosland. This is FNA on FSR.

1718
01:40:59,760 --> 01:41:04,040
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

1719
01:41:10,160 --> 01:41:11,719
Speaker 3: I'm an annoyance to my superior.

1720
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,759
Speaker 8: As a joke to my peers, they call me spooky

1721
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:15,000
Speaker 8: FNA Cotton.

1722
01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,080
Speaker 2: Welcome back in this f and A on FSR. I'm

1723
01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:22,679
Speaker 2: out a Mosland. Adam Ashton Kevin Figures is out tonight.

1724
01:41:22,800 --> 01:41:26,000
Speaker 2: He'll be back in next week eight seven, seven ninety

1725
01:41:26,120 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 2: nine on Fox. If you'd like to get on. Do

1726
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:31,160
Speaker 2: you have some DeAndre Aten's in your life? Players on

1727
01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:34,840
Speaker 2: your teams that just they don't reach their potential, They're

1728
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:37,519
Speaker 2: not self aware enough to realize what their role is.

1729
01:41:37,520 --> 01:41:40,800
Speaker 2: They don't stay in their lane, or they just make

1730
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:44,519
Speaker 2: some bad choices. It happens. It's happening right now with

1731
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 2: the Lakers. Do you want to remind you for the

1732
01:41:46,200 --> 01:41:49,120
Speaker 2: best pregame show every weekend, be sure to tune into

1733
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1734
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1735
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1736
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1737
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1738
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Speaker 2: right here on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app

1739
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:11,000
Speaker 2: eight seven seven ninety nine on Fox. So we talked

1740
01:42:11,000 --> 01:42:14,280
Speaker 2: a little bit earlier with Vinnie B. Vincent bon Signor

1741
01:42:15,200 --> 01:42:19,880
Speaker 2: of the California Post, and he was discussing Max Crosby,

1742
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:25,000
Speaker 2: now a member of the Baltimore Ravens. And really, this

1743
01:42:25,080 --> 01:42:29,080
Speaker 2: is what I was talking about last year with Micah Parsons.

1744
01:42:30,439 --> 01:42:35,240
Speaker 2: There's a reason I was against the Dallas Cowboys paying

1745
01:42:35,320 --> 01:42:41,080
Speaker 2: him that money. Well, they aren't close, they aren't there,

1746
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:45,000
Speaker 2: they aren't on the doorstep of being a super Bowl team.

1747
01:42:45,439 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 2: You guys can point the finger at him, I'm pointing

1748
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:52,160
Speaker 2: at all the Dallas Cowboys. So it made sense to

1749
01:42:52,200 --> 01:42:57,360
Speaker 2: me to move on from Micah Parsons. Yes, he was

1750
01:42:57,400 --> 01:43:00,120
Speaker 2: young enough where you can certainly make the argument you

1751
01:43:00,200 --> 01:43:02,360
Speaker 2: keep a guy like that, you try to build a

1752
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:06,040
Speaker 2: defense around him. But clearly they weren't very good defensively

1753
01:43:06,080 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 2: with him at times. Either team game. One guy can't

1754
01:43:10,479 --> 01:43:15,360
Speaker 2: do everything in the NFL. But but for teams that

1755
01:43:15,439 --> 01:43:19,599
Speaker 2: are close, for teams that are right there, oh, I

1756
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,400
Speaker 2: understand trading for that guy. I thought it made a

1757
01:43:22,479 --> 01:43:26,280
Speaker 2: lot of sense for the Green Bay Packers. He does

1758
01:43:26,320 --> 01:43:32,600
Speaker 2: his acl of course, they underachieved him many ways, but

1759
01:43:33,320 --> 01:43:36,920
Speaker 2: hopefully he comes back healthy and that will be the

1760
01:43:36,960 --> 01:43:40,080
Speaker 2: missing piece that gets them over the top. Can Max

1761
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:44,920
Speaker 2: Crosby be that for the Baltimore Ravens. A defense that

1762
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:47,360
Speaker 2: coming into last season we thought was gonna be pretty

1763
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:53,040
Speaker 2: good in the end leads to John Harbaugh leaving. They

1764
01:43:53,080 --> 01:43:55,880
Speaker 2: lose that play in game to get into the playoffs

1765
01:43:56,000 --> 01:44:01,040
Speaker 2: to win the AFC North against the Steelers. Think they

1766
01:44:01,080 --> 01:44:04,920
Speaker 2: had a miskick there. I think it was kind of

1767
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:11,160
Speaker 2: a Blair Waltz situation. We were feel glory, but they're

1768
01:44:11,200 --> 01:44:16,639
Speaker 2: still stacked. They're good enough. They got a new head coach,

1769
01:44:16,760 --> 01:44:21,080
Speaker 2: Jesse Minter, former defensive coordinator for the Chargers. They were

1770
01:44:21,400 --> 01:44:23,960
Speaker 2: maximizing their talent. I would say on that end, it

1771
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 2: was their offense that failed them in that wild card

1772
01:44:28,400 --> 01:44:31,240
Speaker 2: game against the Patriots, But jesse Mincher was sought after.

1773
01:44:32,000 --> 01:44:35,759
Speaker 2: I think it's a good hire. I'm guessing Lamar Jackson

1774
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:39,360
Speaker 2: had some thoughts about it. But you look at them

1775
01:44:39,400 --> 01:44:44,800
Speaker 2: offensively when healthy, they're fine on that end. Defensively, are

1776
01:44:44,840 --> 01:44:48,519
Speaker 2: they good enough? Are they gonna have some guys have

1777
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,680
Speaker 2: bounced back years next to now Max Crosby out there,

1778
01:44:51,720 --> 01:44:54,519
Speaker 2: who can make life easier for everybody else because when

1779
01:44:54,520 --> 01:44:58,439
Speaker 2: you're rushing the passer like that, well, guys on the

1780
01:44:58,479 --> 01:45:01,200
Speaker 2: back end don't have to be as good your corners

1781
01:45:01,280 --> 01:45:03,639
Speaker 2: or safeties, they don't have to hold up for as long.

1782
01:45:04,400 --> 01:45:06,160
Speaker 2: So you can make a huge difference for a team

1783
01:45:06,240 --> 01:45:09,439
Speaker 2: like that. To me, obviously, the Raiders are in a rebuild.

1784
01:45:09,960 --> 01:45:13,679
Speaker 2: They've been in a rebuild, perpetual rebuild. They were born

1785
01:45:13,720 --> 01:45:18,280
Speaker 2: into a rebuild. It's just it's the Raiders. He's not

1786
01:45:18,320 --> 01:45:19,160
Speaker 2: on their timeline.

1787
01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,160
Speaker 1: The Raiders suck.

1788
01:45:21,040 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 2: By the time Max Crosby is seeing some positives the

1789
01:45:27,479 --> 01:45:32,320
Speaker 2: Raiders turning a corner, it might be thirty five, it

1790
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:36,120
Speaker 2: could be six years from now. Hopefully not that long

1791
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:40,120
Speaker 2: for Raider Nation. But they're not on the same timeline.

1792
01:45:42,840 --> 01:45:47,559
Speaker 2: He's ready now, he's had knee surgery. He's twenty nine.

1793
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 2: He's still on the back end of his prime most likely,

1794
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:57,479
Speaker 2: but in his prime. So for the Raiders, yeah, you

1795
01:45:57,520 --> 01:46:00,519
Speaker 2: load up on picks. It makes all the sense the world.

1796
01:46:02,640 --> 01:46:05,080
Speaker 2: Did he make them an elite defense last year? How

1797
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,360
Speaker 2: many games did he help them win. Look, he can

1798
01:46:07,360 --> 01:46:10,080
Speaker 2: wreck shop, no doubt, And Kevin would speak to this

1799
01:46:10,160 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 2: better than I. But he has seen him take over

1800
01:46:13,120 --> 01:46:15,840
Speaker 2: ball games and he's a Raider favorite for that. You

1801
01:46:15,880 --> 01:46:18,280
Speaker 2: cannot begrudge a guy though that has been with the

1802
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,880
Speaker 2: losing franchise that made the playoffs one time for this

1803
01:46:21,080 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 2: long where you have been perpetual losers. Whoo and no

1804
01:46:25,920 --> 01:46:28,519
Speaker 2: light at the end of the tunnel right now, because well,

1805
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 2: they're gonna draft Fernanda Mendoza. Great, but it could take

1806
01:46:31,960 --> 01:46:34,880
Speaker 2: him a few years and they have holes all over

1807
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:39,599
Speaker 2: the roster. He should have to wait around. He did

1808
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:42,400
Speaker 2: his time. He gave you everything he had out there.

1809
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:45,120
Speaker 2: He was a stud. He was beloved for a reason.

1810
01:46:46,680 --> 01:46:49,160
Speaker 2: Don't hate him wanting to move on to greener pastures

1811
01:46:49,160 --> 01:46:52,679
Speaker 2: because you guys couldn't put a good enough team around him.

1812
01:46:52,800 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 2: I don't up your heart. Let that hate out. I

1813
01:46:55,520 --> 01:46:57,720
Speaker 2: wouldn't do that if I was a Raider fan. That

1814
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:02,160
Speaker 2: does make sense. Did he play hard in your uniform

1815
01:47:02,280 --> 01:47:04,360
Speaker 2: and give everything out there? That's what you should be

1816
01:47:04,360 --> 01:47:09,360
Speaker 2: concerned about. Oh he wants to leave, let the door

1817
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 2: hit you on the way out. Now. It shouldn't be

1818
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:16,360
Speaker 2: like that. Typically, And I said this with Christian McCaffrey

1819
01:47:16,360 --> 01:47:19,120
Speaker 2: when he left the Panthers, I was like, good, he

1820
01:47:19,240 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 2: deserves better, and he got better with the forty nine ers.

1821
01:47:26,040 --> 01:47:29,800
Speaker 2: We don't deserve this player. I want to see him

1822
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:33,080
Speaker 2: thrive and blossom and have a chance to actually win.

1823
01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:37,920
Speaker 2: Don't you want to see that for Max Crosby. Doesn't

1824
01:47:37,960 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 2: that make sense? Sure you're gonna have for playing he's

1825
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:45,800
Speaker 2: still in the AFC. He's gonna blow up for Nano Mendoza.

1826
01:47:46,840 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 2: But he was a badass for you, looking like out

1827
01:47:51,640 --> 01:47:56,639
Speaker 2: of Sons of Anarchy or something like. He did his part.

1828
01:47:58,479 --> 01:48:01,040
Speaker 2: You have to be a confident enough frankranchise to want

1829
01:48:01,080 --> 01:48:05,720
Speaker 2: guys like that to stay, and that means win consistently.

1830
01:48:07,640 --> 01:48:10,400
Speaker 2: Too many years losing like that, it's got to be

1831
01:48:10,479 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 2: hell on the Psyche. I know you're paying them handsomely.

1832
01:48:14,120 --> 01:48:18,439
Speaker 2: I get it, but I don't fault guys wanting out

1833
01:48:18,840 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 2: because they want to win and they are clearly in

1834
01:48:22,240 --> 01:48:26,719
Speaker 2: a situation where that's not going to happen. They've given

1835
01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,559
Speaker 2: you all the chances in the world to prove that

1836
01:48:28,640 --> 01:48:32,559
Speaker 2: you can build something there in Oakland and now Las Vegas.

1837
01:48:33,920 --> 01:48:38,639
Speaker 2: I'm sorry the Raiders had opportunities they blew it. It's

1838
01:48:38,680 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 2: time to move on. You get two first round picks.

1839
01:48:43,360 --> 01:48:46,559
Speaker 2: That's going to work out nicely for them because they

1840
01:48:46,600 --> 01:48:50,080
Speaker 2: got issues everywhere on that roster. Get young, get guys

1841
01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:54,160
Speaker 2: on cost control contracts, find the next Max Crosby somewhere

1842
01:48:55,960 --> 01:49:01,040
Speaker 2: and figure it out. Have some direction starts with the quarterback.

1843
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:03,800
Speaker 2: But we're talking about a team that just fired their

1844
01:49:03,840 --> 01:49:07,720
Speaker 2: head coach and is letting their quarterback go that they

1845
01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:12,000
Speaker 2: thought was gonna make them competitive. Raiders fans were thinking,

1846
01:49:12,120 --> 01:49:15,519
Speaker 2: maybe it's an eight win season something like that. Just

1847
01:49:15,560 --> 01:49:20,559
Speaker 2: have a direction, just build have a culture. Now Pete

1848
01:49:20,560 --> 01:49:24,960
Speaker 2: Carroll's gone, you're out. Who else is gone?

1849
01:49:24,960 --> 01:49:25,120
Speaker 7: Now?

1850
01:49:25,240 --> 01:49:34,400
Speaker 2: Oh? Gino Smith reportedly, I don't blame him either. Raiders

1851
01:49:34,479 --> 01:49:41,080
Speaker 2: fans treated him terribly. I know he was bad. What

1852
01:49:41,120 --> 01:49:45,439
Speaker 2: did you expect a quarterback like that? Without pass protection?

1853
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 2: What's gonna happen. He's gonna get happy feed, he's gonna

1854
01:49:49,600 --> 01:49:52,000
Speaker 2: be seeing go so he's gonna throw picks out there.

1855
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 2: I understood what happened. I felt bad for him. That

1856
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:04,439
Speaker 2: offensive line was shredded. Nobody's winning behind that. I have

1857
01:50:04,560 --> 01:50:09,240
Speaker 2: seen Patrick Mahomes in all his glory in his prime

1858
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:11,920
Speaker 2: in a Super Bowl against the Tampa Bay Buccaneers with

1859
01:50:12,200 --> 01:50:15,040
Speaker 2: multiple offensive linemen out running for his life trying to

1860
01:50:15,040 --> 01:50:18,479
Speaker 2: make plays and you can't. It doesn't work like that.

1861
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,720
Speaker 2: It happened with him against the Eagles two years ago

1862
01:50:21,800 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 2: now or a year ago. If you don't get past

1863
01:50:26,080 --> 01:50:28,360
Speaker 2: protection in there, it doesn't matter who you have behind center.

1864
01:50:28,439 --> 01:50:31,599
Speaker 2: They can only do so much. Even an athletic quarterback

1865
01:50:31,680 --> 01:50:35,080
Speaker 2: like that that can scramble and improvise. I mean, that's

1866
01:50:35,160 --> 01:50:38,000
Speaker 2: best case scenario, and he still couldn't get the ball

1867
01:50:38,760 --> 01:50:44,400
Speaker 2: moving down the field. So look, the Raiders, it's best

1868
01:50:44,439 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 2: for both parties. That makes sense to me. Don't be

1869
01:50:48,680 --> 01:50:51,040
Speaker 2: mad that it's over. Be glad that it happened with

1870
01:50:51,200 --> 01:50:56,160
Speaker 2: Max Crosby. He did good things in that organization. And

1871
01:50:56,240 --> 01:50:59,000
Speaker 2: I'm interested to see how good the Baltimore Ravens are

1872
01:50:59,040 --> 01:51:03,559
Speaker 2: going to be with him, because this last season, you know,

1873
01:51:03,640 --> 01:51:05,240
Speaker 2: maybe it ended up being a gap year. We just

1874
01:51:05,240 --> 01:51:07,280
Speaker 2: didn't realize it with that defense because they came in

1875
01:51:07,320 --> 01:51:10,639
Speaker 2: with high hopes. They were looking kind of stacked on paper,

1876
01:51:12,600 --> 01:51:16,840
Speaker 2: not so much after what Game one against the Buffalo Bills.

1877
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:20,760
Speaker 2: I think it was where they blew that lead and

1878
01:51:21,320 --> 01:51:23,519
Speaker 2: that was the beginning of the end with John Harbaugh.

1879
01:51:23,600 --> 01:51:26,360
Speaker 2: But you could see right then obviously the defense wasn't

1880
01:51:26,360 --> 01:51:29,920
Speaker 2: that good. They gave up fifty I think close to

1881
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:34,880
Speaker 2: this year with Max Crosby.

1882
01:51:34,960 --> 01:51:35,479
Speaker 4: I don't know.

1883
01:51:35,840 --> 01:51:39,320
Speaker 2: Maybe this is the bounce back. Still a tough division,

1884
01:51:40,479 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 2: but you need all the help you can get defensively,

1885
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:46,559
Speaker 2: and he is a game wrecker, but you have to

1886
01:51:46,600 --> 01:51:49,879
Speaker 2: have a team in line. In my opinion, that is close.

1887
01:51:50,479 --> 01:51:53,960
Speaker 2: If you're going to pay somebody all this money, put

1888
01:51:54,000 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 2: so much into him, he's got to get you over

1889
01:51:56,280 --> 01:52:00,160
Speaker 2: the top. And I don't think they're that far away

1890
01:52:00,320 --> 01:52:06,280
Speaker 2: despite what happened last season. So congrats to Baltimore.

1891
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:06,519
Speaker 4: And the Ravens.

1892
01:52:07,120 --> 01:52:08,960
Speaker 2: Hey, it's a good trade to work for both. It's

1893
01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:12,640
Speaker 2: one of those types. I think we'll see. I'm at

1894
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:16,759
Speaker 2: a Maslin. This is FNA on FSR as I just watched.

1895
01:52:17,080 --> 01:52:20,640
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum doesn't drink spride, apparently because he missed a

1896
01:52:20,760 --> 01:52:24,320
Speaker 2: dunk early on the ballgame in his first game back

1897
01:52:24,439 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 2: ten months off the Achilles injury mister Badley at the

1898
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:31,280
Speaker 2: front of the rim. He eventually would get a putback

1899
01:52:31,320 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: done for his first points with the Boston Celtics this season.

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Speaker 2: What does that mean for the Eastern Conference, and how

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Speaker 2: far can they go with Jason Tatum who might only

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Speaker 2: be eighty percent of what he was. I'll tell you next. FNAM.

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Speaker 2: off the air. Here before that, tease something out a

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Speaker 2: little bit earlier. Producer Brandon. You know he's known to

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Speaker 2: swim in Lakers circles and pools. They pedn up. Well,

1920
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Speaker 2: let me tell you he has the pulse of Laker Nation. Brandon,

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Speaker 2: I gotta ask you this because I've seen it on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: but maybe I follow the wrong people. It sure seems

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Speaker 2: like I know it tonight, notwithstanding Luke ad forty four,

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Speaker 2: Lakers fans are actually turning on Luka Doncic and thinking

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Speaker 2: he's part of the problem and not the solution.

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Speaker 10: What say you, Yeah, I mean I'm in a group

1927
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Speaker 10: chat with a bunch of Laker fans that you know,

1928
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Speaker 10: originally it was Lebron, Lebron's a problem, Lebron's is, and

1929
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Speaker 10: now now it's Luca.

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Speaker 2: Luca is the big problem.

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Speaker 10: He's complaining to refs he's not playing defense when you

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Speaker 10: could argue like his defense is as good as it's

1933
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Speaker 10: ever been this year. I mean, he's never going to

1934
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Speaker 10: be a really good defender, but he is blocking a

1935
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Speaker 10: few shots, getting a few steals.

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Speaker 2: He defended his defense tonight. He defended his defense better

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Speaker 2: than he ever defended on the court. But I heard

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Speaker 2: him postgame about that.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, his efforts been actually in great one. I mean

1940
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Speaker 10: they should keep calling out his defense because then he

1941
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Speaker 10: actually plays hard defensively. He's got to be careful with

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Speaker 10: the referees because of the technical. If he gets another

1943
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Speaker 10: one will be suspended.

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Speaker 1: You're out.

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Speaker 10: But yeah, I mean it's it's weird because the Lakers

1946
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Speaker 10: have arguably.

1947
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Speaker 2: One of the worst rosters in the league.

1948
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Speaker 10: Right, Like we've talked about this, and without Luka Doncicch

1949
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Speaker 10: there what a five win team, ten win team.

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Speaker 2: Like, I don't know about that. It's not like Robert

1951
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Speaker 2: Sockre is out there again.

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Speaker 10: I mean it might as well Jake Laaravia and Robert

1953
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Speaker 10: soccer is not much different.

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Speaker 2: So Laravia has been taken incoming. I know that. I

1955
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:23,960
Speaker 2: did say before the season they need one of Jake

1956
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Speaker 2: Laabia Van Do and Marcus Smart, at least one of

1957
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Speaker 2: them to have a career year. I don't think that's

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Speaker 2: happened so far.

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Speaker 10: Marcus smarton play, well, we shouldn't taken those two clutch

1960
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Speaker 10: shots in Denver. But yeah, he's been okay, but he's

1961
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Speaker 10: not having a career year. I mean, this was a

1962
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Speaker 10: defensive player of the year.

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Speaker 2: Well, tell me about zero in on the complaining from Luca,

1964
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Speaker 2: because that's always been there. Maybe it's gotten a little

1965
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Speaker 2: bit worse or just stands out more when they're losing

1966
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Speaker 2: and he's complaining and not getting back on defense and

1967
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Speaker 2: his man's beating him down the floor. Is that a

1968
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Speaker 2: big part of why Lakers fans are turning on him.

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Speaker 10: I think it's it's more apparent and evident when they

1970
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Speaker 10: lose to good teams, right and he's complaining, like the

1971
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Speaker 10: Denver game, or I guess a better example is Boston

1972
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Speaker 10: last weekend and they got drilled by Boston Boston and

1973
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Speaker 10: evidly ended up losing by a lot against you know,

1974
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Speaker 10: a better team, but they've struggled against very good teams.

1975
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Speaker 10: I don't think that's entirely on Luca, like they just

1976
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Speaker 10: don't have a good roster, but it is more apparent

1977
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Speaker 10: and evident and spoken about in media when he does that,

1978
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Speaker 10: like in big games now, I mean, you'll see it.

1979
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Speaker 10: They play the Knicks on national television on Sunday, that's

1980
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Speaker 10: gonna be a game they probably lose. He probably complains

1981
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Speaker 10: of the refs, and you're gonna hear it Monday morning

1982
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Speaker 10: on First Take again.

1983
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Speaker 2: Well, and I thought it was interesting. It's not just fans.

1984
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Speaker 2: Media members have gone after Luka Doncic as if they

1985
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Speaker 2: point the finger at everybody else and he's the last

1986
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Speaker 2: guy standing and now he has to wear it if

1987
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Speaker 2: they're still losing at some point, Luca's gonna take some blame.

1988
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Speaker 2: But here's the thing. Draymond comes out and goes, you know,

1989
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Speaker 2: you guys are hypocrites for going after Luka Doncic like this,

1990
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Speaker 2: because you were the same ones that were killing Nico

1991
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Speaker 2: Harrison for some of the same criticism that now you

1992
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Speaker 2: have for Luca. But I would say that is poorly

1993
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Speaker 2: framed and intentionally framed that way from Draymond Green and

1994
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Speaker 2: lacks context, because the truth is, if you want to

1995
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Speaker 2: trade Luca, that's one thing. If you're going to trade him,

1996
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Speaker 2: you better make him available to everyone so you can

1997
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Speaker 2: drive up the price and get the biggest trade package

1998
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Speaker 2: in the history of sports, a godfather offer. When that's

1999
01:57:41,240 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 2: not what Nico did. He only worked with one team

2000
01:57:45,000 --> 01:57:47,520
Speaker 2: and he didn't get enough in return. If they had

2001
01:57:47,560 --> 01:57:51,000
Speaker 2: gotten the Moon and the Stars, that would be different.

2002
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Speaker 2: If they had gotten Austin Reeves out of the trade,

2003
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Speaker 2: that would be different. That's what we're criticizing more than anything,

2004
01:57:56,240 --> 01:57:59,920
Speaker 2: because I think some people do realize, you know, Luke

2005
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:03,440
Speaker 2: might have fatal flaws. I don't believe that personally, but

2006
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Speaker 2: I think there's an argument out there that he does

2007
01:58:06,440 --> 01:58:09,920
Speaker 2: have some real hang ups and drawbacks and that's fine

2008
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Speaker 2: to criticize that, but Nico gave him up and didn't

2009
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:16,080
Speaker 2: get enough for him. That's the real issue here. That

2010
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Speaker 2: is a fact.

2011
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Speaker 10: I mean Nico also built a top five defense around

2012
01:58:20,400 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 10: him when they went to the finals.

2013
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Speaker 2: He gave him credit.

2014
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Speaker 10: Bill, it's a great team. But yeah, he did. He

2015
01:58:24,600 --> 01:58:27,000
Speaker 10: should have gotten way more for Luka Doncic. I think

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Speaker 10: he was scared of the criticism, which he was inevitably

2017
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Speaker 10: going to get regardless, and that's why he secretly went

2018
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Speaker 10: with You know, he knew Rob Polinka from the Nike days,

2019
01:58:34,960 --> 01:58:38,920
Speaker 10: you know when Rob represented Kobe Bryant rip But like

2020
01:58:39,000 --> 01:58:42,680
Speaker 10: that's how that relationship started again. You're right, it would

2021
01:58:42,680 --> 01:58:45,000
Speaker 10: be different if they got Austin Reeves. But everyone acting

2022
01:58:45,160 --> 01:58:48,360
Speaker 10: like Lucas this player or you can't win. I mean,

2023
01:58:48,440 --> 01:58:50,760
Speaker 10: are we forgetting that they were in the finals just

2024
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Speaker 10: like a year and a half.

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Speaker 2: Ago, like I have not. And I'll say this, though

2026
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Speaker 2: sports are very circumstantial. You gotta have some luck along

2027
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Speaker 2: the way. If I didn't get injured in the first round,

2028
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Speaker 2: I think the Clippers are taking out Dallas before they

2029
01:59:05,080 --> 01:59:07,760
Speaker 2: have a chance to get to the finals. Now give

2030
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Speaker 2: them credit. They took out Okac. They beat Minnesota, they

2031
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:17,040
Speaker 2: lost to a great Boston Celtics team, but I don't

2032
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Speaker 2: know if they were as good maybe as we thought.

2033
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Speaker 2: But to your point, they put a team around him

2034
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Speaker 2: that was capable of getting there. They constructed it the

2035
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Speaker 2: right way. And you heard what I said earlier about

2036
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Speaker 2: Rob Polenka, and I think you co signed on some

2037
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Speaker 2: of it. They just cannot roster build there Rob. I

2038
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Speaker 2: would be shocked.

2039
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Speaker 10: I know Mark Medina disagrees with me on this. I'd

2040
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Speaker 10: be shocked if Rob Polinka is employed as the president

2041
01:59:40,080 --> 01:59:43,360
Speaker 10: of basketball operations, unless it's a phantom position. Well at

2042
01:59:43,360 --> 01:59:45,200
Speaker 10: this point next year, look, and.

2043
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Speaker 2: I appreciate the intel, and you know the Lakers well

2044
01:59:48,080 --> 01:59:52,240
Speaker 2: and what they're dealing with with Luka Doncic. I think

2045
01:59:52,240 --> 01:59:55,040
Speaker 2: if they lose in the first round in embarrassing fashion,

2046
01:59:55,080 --> 01:59:58,480
Speaker 2: this em like, I don't know, playing the entire starting

2047
01:59:58,520 --> 02:00:00,760
Speaker 2: lineup the second half of a game because you have

2048
02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:03,560
Speaker 2: no trust in anybody else out there. Who's that gonna

2049
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,880
Speaker 2: fall on the guy who constructed the team. If it

2050
02:00:05,920 --> 02:00:10,160
Speaker 2: happens again this season, I would not expect Rob Polinka back.

2051
02:00:10,200 --> 02:00:14,320
Speaker 2: He is Brandon our producer here, Breebrey, We love you.

2052
02:00:14,440 --> 02:00:16,800
Speaker 2: But we got Brandon now and he's breaking down the

2053
02:00:16,840 --> 02:00:19,000
Speaker 2: Lakers like that before we get out of here. Since

2054
02:00:19,000 --> 02:00:24,600
Speaker 2: Brandon brought up Boston, Jason Tatum was back, and you know,

2055
02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:27,320
Speaker 2: not back back. He was six of sixteen, but he

2056
02:00:27,360 --> 02:00:30,040
Speaker 2: did play twenty seven minutes. I would have thought first

2057
02:00:30,080 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 2: game ten months off the Achilles, he's playing less than

2058
02:00:33,520 --> 02:00:37,480
Speaker 2: twenty maybe around fifteen. He was a plus twenty out

2059
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,120
Speaker 2: there that tied for a team high. No Derek White,

2060
02:00:40,160 --> 02:00:43,040
Speaker 2: Haye plus twenty three. He struggled a lot in the

2061
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:45,480
Speaker 2: first half. He missed a dunk, as I mentioned before

2062
02:00:45,520 --> 02:00:49,800
Speaker 2: the commercial break, but he looked enough like Jason Tatum

2063
02:00:49,840 --> 02:00:53,280
Speaker 2: to me and is that type of superstar that can

2064
02:00:53,760 --> 02:00:57,480
Speaker 2: he can scale down his game and fit in because

2065
02:00:57,520 --> 02:01:00,360
Speaker 2: he's so complimentary in so many different ways in so

2066
02:01:00,360 --> 02:01:03,800
Speaker 2: many different roles. People forget in that series against the

2067
02:01:03,880 --> 02:01:06,960
Speaker 2: Dallas Mavericks in the NBA Finals, he wasn't the MVP.

2068
02:01:07,360 --> 02:01:11,000
Speaker 2: It was Jalen Brown. Jason Tatum is a team guy.

2069
02:01:11,640 --> 02:01:16,520
Speaker 2: He's honestly the perfect guy to come back, and just

2070
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:20,120
Speaker 2: as Lebron James once said, fit in, don't fit out,

2071
02:01:21,480 --> 02:01:23,960
Speaker 2: he can make this work with the Boston team that

2072
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:27,920
Speaker 2: has been rolling without him because he'll blend in and

2073
02:01:27,960 --> 02:01:30,240
Speaker 2: he's not going to have them just play through him

2074
02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,280
Speaker 2: to where there's this disruption on the offensive end all

2075
02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,840
Speaker 2: the time and they can't make it work with him

2076
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,440
Speaker 2: and Jalen Brown. I was encouraged by what I saw

2077
02:01:38,480 --> 02:01:41,120
Speaker 2: with Jason Tatum. First of all, one of my favorite players.

2078
02:01:41,880 --> 02:01:46,160
Speaker 2: The league is better with him, but I think Boston

2079
02:01:46,240 --> 02:01:48,720
Speaker 2: now has a real chance to be up there with

2080
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:52,360
Speaker 2: the Knicks and the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Eastern Conference,

2081
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,080
Speaker 2: and they have a chance to duke it out with them.

2082
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:57,560
Speaker 2: It's not a gap year, it's not a transitional year.

2083
02:01:57,960 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 2: Jason Tatum is back, and even eighty percent or wherever

2084
02:02:01,400 --> 02:02:03,840
Speaker 2: he's at, they have a chance to get out of

2085
02:02:03,880 --> 02:02:07,040
Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference. Now. That is real, that is happening.

2086
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Speaker 2: I'm out of Maslin. This has been f and A

2087
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Speaker 2: on FSR and IL