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We're 48 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:07,120 Speaker 1: gonna get started with k d as I have been 49 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: talking about a lot since the end of the season. 50 00:03:09,680 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: The playoffs are all revealing. There is no hiding from 51 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: that stage. Whatever there is to learn about your basketball team, 52 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna learn on that stage. And the Nets were 53 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:26,520 Speaker 1: was clearly different on that stage than any of the 54 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: other teams that performed. Everybody else managed to win at 55 00:03:29,680 --> 00:03:31,640 Speaker 1: least one basketball game. Now, don't get me wrong, they 56 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: caught a bad draw. But when you've got Kevin Durant 57 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: Kyrie Irving on your team, you expect to be able 58 00:03:37,480 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: to get a win, especially with as flawed as that 59 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:44,920 Speaker 1: Boston team was, and then Damn Near losing to Milwaukee, 60 00:03:45,120 --> 00:03:48,920 Speaker 1: and then dan Near losing to Miami, and then blowing 61 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 1: three games in a row the way they did against 62 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,360 Speaker 1: the Warriors. That was a series where the Nets should 63 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,040 Speaker 1: have been able to be more competitive. Did you guys 64 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: feel like the Nets were one Ben Simmons away from 65 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,200 Speaker 1: getting the job done? Didn't think that was the case. 66 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:04,200 Speaker 1: And I think that's a big part of why the 67 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 1: Nets played hard ball with Kyrie, because you put up 68 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: with the drama if there's a trophy at the end 69 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 1: of it. Just ask every team that's dealt with with 70 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:20,360 Speaker 1: Lebron James over the years. But two years ago, Kyrie 71 00:04:20,400 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: Irving took two separate personal leaves of absence for no 72 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: particular reason, and one time was even caught partying with 73 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 1: his family during that stretch. And you know, if things 74 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 1: go well, you looked at something like that over but 75 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 1: they didn't this past year. The Lakers. Excuse me, the 76 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: Nets had no business playing the Celtics in the first 77 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,560 Speaker 1: round of the playoffs. With as talented as that team was. 78 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,440 Speaker 1: They should have had a higher seed. They should have 79 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:49,080 Speaker 1: been able to play a team like Chicago or you know, uh, 80 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:51,640 Speaker 1: any of those lower seeds in the Eastern Conference to 81 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: get more time for the team to get healthy and 82 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: ready as they made a deeper playoff run. But that's 83 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 1: not what happened. They had to play the Celtics in 84 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 1: the first round. Why because Kyrie Irving refused to get 85 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 1: the vaccine, made a big spectacle out of it, missed 86 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 1: a huge chunk of the season, and the Nets ended 87 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: up being the seven seed. And so when they lost 88 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,240 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Joe Sigh and Shawn Marks and 89 00:05:13,240 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: these guys in the Brooklyn Nets front office, they're sick 90 00:05:16,600 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 1: of it because the drama was no longer worth it. 91 00:05:19,279 --> 00:05:21,320 Speaker 1: So they played hard ball with Kyrie Irving. And when 92 00:05:21,320 --> 00:05:24,040 Speaker 1: they played hardball with Kyrie Irving, Kyrie Irving tried to 93 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: leverage the Lakers against them with that alleged six million 94 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: dollar taxpayer mid level exception that he was going to take. 95 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:33,640 Speaker 1: The Nets were like, cool, go ahead, take it. He 96 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: didn't take it. He opted in, and once again the 97 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:39,599 Speaker 1: Nets were poised to go at it again this season. 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:42,119 Speaker 1: And it was only a matter of time before someone 99 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: like k D, who cares about the basketball more than 100 00:05:45,360 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: anything else, would look at this situation and read the 101 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,080 Speaker 1: writing on the wall, which is that the Nets were 102 00:05:50,080 --> 00:05:52,840 Speaker 1: not good enough. Boston is going to be better next year. 103 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: Tatum and Brown will be one year better. They've learned 104 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:57,559 Speaker 1: a lot from this playoff run. You know they're gonna 105 00:05:57,560 --> 00:06:00,720 Speaker 1: be addressing their ball handling concerns that were problematic as 106 00:06:00,760 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: they made there towards the end of their playoff run. 107 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: They're gonna be better. Milwaukee with Chris Middleton's gonna be 108 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: significantly better. I loved the Joe Joe Ingles picked there 109 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: or moved there. We're gonna get into them a little 110 00:06:10,760 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: bit deeper later on in the show. Miami is poised 111 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: to uh potentially make some moves this offseason. The East 112 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,159 Speaker 1: is gonna be better. Brooklyn is not good enough. And 113 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant read the writing on the wall. He accepted reality, 114 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 1: and he demanded a trade. And I'm happy for him 115 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 1: in the sense that he seems to finally be getting 116 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: his priorities right because he went to Golden State, because 117 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: he prioritized the basketball. He cared more about what his 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 1: role on that team would be, the ease and the 119 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: free flowing nature with which he would be able to 120 00:06:45,040 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: play the game of basketball. He cared about that, so 121 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 1: much more than anything else. And unfortunately, because things went 122 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the way they did while he was there, he started 123 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: to start caring about other stuff, like the narrative and 124 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: what all of you think about what he did while 125 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,920 Speaker 1: he was there, and it allowed him to lose sight 126 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:07,560 Speaker 1: of that priority, and he chased a situation based on 127 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:10,280 Speaker 1: the narrative instead of based on the basketball. So he 128 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 1: partnered with his friend Kyrie Irvin, who obviously was proven 129 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,440 Speaker 1: to be an unreliable teammate, just like he was in Cleveland, 130 00:07:18,760 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: just like he was in Boston. And as a result 131 00:07:21,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: of that, because he did not prioritize the basketball, he 132 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 1: found himself in a situation where he was at a 133 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 1: disadvantage on the basketball court where he had to play, 134 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 1: you know, two years ago, the best basketball he's ever 135 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,880 Speaker 1: played in his life, just to lose to Milwaukee and 136 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 1: seven or this year to run into a situation against 137 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 1: Boston where doesn't seem like they have enough horses. And 138 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: so it's good to see that he accepted that reality. Now, 139 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: the question that I have is I wonder where the 140 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:52,040 Speaker 1: relationship with Kyrie is at. I believe that him and 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:55,080 Speaker 1: Kyrie are still close, but I think Kira, I think 142 00:07:55,160 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: Kevin has at least come to terms with the fact 143 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 1: that maybe that partnership is an't the same. You could 144 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: be friends with somebody but not be good business partners 145 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: and I believe he's come to terms with that. So 146 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 1: the question is where's Katie going to end up now? 147 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 1: He put as his prior prioritized destinations, his favorite destinations, 148 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:19,240 Speaker 1: Miami and Phoenix. I don't necessarily understand the draw for 149 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: Brooklyn there because if I'm Brooklyn and I'm getting back 150 00:08:24,240 --> 00:08:28,560 Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow and salary filler and a bunch of picks, 151 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: Tyler Harrow is not moving the needle for me. If 152 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: I'm going to Phoenix and I'm getting DeAndre Ayton on 153 00:08:35,880 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 1: a sign in trade Max and I'm getting Mikal Bridges, 154 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:43,640 Speaker 1: who's very good, but he's not a star and he 155 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: makes twenty million a year, that's not moving the needle 156 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,880 Speaker 1: for me. And again with DeAndre Ayton, and I really 157 00:08:49,920 --> 00:08:53,240 Speaker 1: like DeAndre and he plays the most replaceable position in 158 00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:56,920 Speaker 1: the NBA. If you're not Nickel Yokit or Joel Embiid, 159 00:08:56,960 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: I can probably get seventy of your production for a 160 00:09:00,160 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 1: tiny fraction of the salary. And so the question is 161 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 1: if you think DeAndre Ayton can be Joel and beater, 162 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: Nicola Yokich thinks, great, the sons are your partner, go 163 00:09:09,040 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: after DeAndre Ayton. But I would imagine that Sean Marks 164 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 1: does not think that DeAndre Ayton is Nicola Yoki or 165 00:09:15,679 --> 00:09:18,320 Speaker 1: that DeAndre Aton is Joel Embiid. So as much as 166 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:21,280 Speaker 1: Katie wants to go to those destinations, I don't necessarily 167 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 1: see the assets there as being worthwhile for Brooklyn. So 168 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: how much cache does KD have has Kadi? Is the 169 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:34,119 Speaker 1: relationship broken between Kyrie and Sean Marks and Joe Si 170 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,560 Speaker 1: but solid and healthy between k D and those guys, 171 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 1: I don't know. Because if that bridge is burned or 172 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: if that bridge is not in great shape, then if 173 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: I'm Brooklyn, I'm looking at those situations that I'm going 174 00:09:46,400 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: that's great, k D, but I'm going to where the 175 00:09:48,160 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: better assets are. You know, We're gonna find out a 176 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:54,200 Speaker 1: lot about Katie's casche with the Brooklyn front office in 177 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: this next couple of weeks, depending on where he gets traded, 178 00:09:57,480 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: Because the way I would look at it, Katie should 179 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 1: theoretically fetch the largest trade package in the history of basketball. 180 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 1: This is not James Harden coming from the Rockets. This 181 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:12,240 Speaker 1: is not Paul George. This is not Kawhi Leonard after 182 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:14,920 Speaker 1: he had any tendant apathy. This is not any of 183 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: those situations. This is Kevin Freakin Durant at the peak 184 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: of his powers, under contract for four more years, and 185 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: even if you believe he's aging, at least two or 186 00:10:24,840 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 1: three of those years, he's gonna be a top five player. 187 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: So in theory, he should bring back a ridiculous package. 188 00:10:32,240 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: If I am Brooklyn, I want draft picks. I want 189 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: absolute slam dunk, home run guaranteed great young players to 190 00:10:42,280 --> 00:10:46,720 Speaker 1: go with it. And I'm not getting that from Miami 191 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: or from Phoenix. If I'm Brooklyn, I'm calling Toronto and 192 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 1: i want Scotty Barnes. I'm calling New Orleans and i 193 00:10:55,960 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 1: want Zion Williamson and all the picks, because then at 194 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 1: the very least, I can come back to this situation 195 00:11:03,480 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 1: with a bona fide young superstar prospect, a sure thing, 196 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:13,200 Speaker 1: and the hope of what those draft picks might be. 197 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,920 Speaker 1: I get it. I get on Laker fans about this 198 00:11:15,960 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: all the time because they want to be protective of 199 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 1: their assets, and they go, oh, well, that's the future 200 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 1: of the franchise. What are the real statistical chances that 201 00:11:28,080 --> 00:11:31,200 Speaker 1: first is going to be a top five player in 202 00:11:31,200 --> 00:11:36,199 Speaker 1: the NBA, even if it's a lottery pick, it's extremely unlikely. 203 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: Zion Williamson and Scottie Barnes both project to be guys 204 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 1: who are probably on the low end for at least 205 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: a few years in the top ten. That's the type 206 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,840 Speaker 1: of prospect they are. So if you're a Toronto fan, 207 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: why would you want to give up Scotty Barnes for 208 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:57,080 Speaker 1: that exact same reason. If you're a New Orleans fan, 209 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 1: why would you want to give up Zion for that 210 00:11:58,679 --> 00:12:03,480 Speaker 1: exact same reason. It's not guaranteed that they will develop 211 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 1: into that level of prospect, but right now you're a 212 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,320 Speaker 1: playoff team without that guy. Zion Williamson was out and 213 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:14,959 Speaker 1: the Pelicans pushed the Suns to six games and looked 214 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:18,040 Speaker 1: really good. Herb Jones and Trey Murphy looked like awesome 215 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: three and D wings for them. Brandon Ingram looks like 216 00:12:20,559 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: a star in the making. C J. McCollum would be 217 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,040 Speaker 1: as good of a second or third option as you'll 218 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:30,760 Speaker 1: find in the league. Toronto with Pascal Siyakum, you know 219 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:34,680 Speaker 1: o g Na, nob Ken Birch, Chris Boucher, They've got 220 00:12:34,720 --> 00:12:38,920 Speaker 1: all of this talent there. If you can convert Zion 221 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: or Scottie Barnes into Kevin freaking Durant, you become a 222 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: top tier contender. And for both of those teams, it 223 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:50,079 Speaker 1: was the alpha dog talent that was lacking for them 224 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: in this playoff run. So I get it the excitement 225 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: behind players like that would cause you to have some 226 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: hesitation there. But if I'm Brooklyn, that to me is 227 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:01,719 Speaker 1: the starting point of where I'm looking. And if I'm 228 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:05,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans, especially New Orleans because his Zion's health issues 229 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:08,400 Speaker 1: and his weight issues, I would be willing to flip 230 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:10,719 Speaker 1: those guys for Katie in a heartbeat. Now, what you 231 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:12,719 Speaker 1: guys might think is why in the world with Kevin 232 00:13:12,800 --> 00:13:15,000 Speaker 1: Durant want to go to Toronto? Why in the world 233 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: with Kevin Durant want to be buried down in New Orleans. 234 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:21,040 Speaker 1: He's the only guy that I feel like would want that. 235 00:13:21,160 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: You know why, because Kevin Durant cares and only cares 236 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: about the basketball. If you if I could, and you know, 237 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: Brandon Ingram, for instance, is very much a hoop head, 238 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: is very much wired, just like k D wasn't into 239 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:38,679 Speaker 1: the drama in l A, just wanted to focus on 240 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: the hoops. That might be the perfect situation for him. 241 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: Katie is kind of uniquely mentally equipped to go to 242 00:13:46,040 --> 00:13:49,240 Speaker 1: a smaller town relative to the rest of the NBA 243 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: and play with a guy like Brandon Ingram and play 244 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:54,679 Speaker 1: with a guy like c. J. McCollum and be happy. 245 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:58,160 Speaker 1: But most importantly for both Toronto and for both New Orleans, 246 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: they provide k D with a solid basketball situation where 247 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: he could focus on what he's great at. When he 248 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 1: was in Oklahoma City and when he went to Brooklyn, 249 00:14:08,679 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: he had to do everything because in Oklahoma City they 250 00:14:12,240 --> 00:14:15,760 Speaker 1: didn't have enough talent, and in Brooklyn they prioritize the 251 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 1: wrong kinds of talent. They focused on offensive skill instead 252 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: of on size and athleticism, and then they ended up 253 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: getting physically dominated by the Boston Celtics. If he goes 254 00:14:26,560 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 1: down to two New Orleans or goes up to Toronto, 255 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: he can fit into a team that will do the 256 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 1: dirty work for him, play for great coaches, and be 257 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: able to just fall into a role and be great 258 00:14:38,600 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: at what he's great at, which is exactly what he 259 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: did when he was in Golden State. So yes, I 260 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: understand why he wants to go to Miamire Phoenix, but 261 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,920 Speaker 1: I don't think they're realistic destinations. And the two that 262 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 1: I would keep my eye on is Toronto and New Orleans. 263 00:14:51,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: Who the hell knows what's gonna happen, though, intel is 264 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 1: that every single team is calling the nets. Intel is 265 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 1: that their prioritizing assets as they would. This whole experiment 266 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: with Katie and Kyrie has been a disaster. Why would 267 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:07,480 Speaker 1: they do them any favors. Let's move on to Kyrie. 268 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: I don't have any intel on this other than the 269 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: stuff you've heard on from your regular important reporters, but 270 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 1: it's starting to feel like almost like an eighty percent 271 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 1: chance that Kyrie is going to be a Laker. The 272 00:15:21,280 --> 00:15:23,400 Speaker 1: only other team that it really makes any sense for 273 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: is Dallas having lost Jalen Brunson. But the intel there 274 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 1: is that they're more interested in building wing depth and 275 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,760 Speaker 1: that they like the idea of maybe having Gore on 276 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 1: dragets side fall into that third role in upgrading Spencer 277 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:41,120 Speaker 1: Dinwiddie into the Jalen Brunson role. Not a lot of 278 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: teams are willing to put up with the Kyrie circus. 279 00:15:45,360 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 1: The Lakers don't have the luxury of turning away talent 280 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: because they are at a talent deficiency. So it makes 281 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: sense the reports you're hearing from Brian wyn Horrison, from 282 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:57,760 Speaker 1: Stephen A. Smith that Kyrie wants to be a Laker, 283 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,920 Speaker 1: they actually makes sense and it's and as far as 284 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,800 Speaker 1: the basketball fit, we already know how the Lebron Kyrie 285 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: thing works. And most importantly, just to get into a 286 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:10,720 Speaker 1: little bit of an xs and ose a fit there. 287 00:16:11,960 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: One of the things that causes problems for the Lakers 288 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: over the last couple of years with their high pick 289 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 1: and roll with Anthony Davis is they haven't been able 290 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: to run it. Why because when they run it with Lebron, 291 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: they just switch because it's two forwards, And when they 292 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 1: ran it with Russ, or when they ran it with 293 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,040 Speaker 1: Dennis Shooter, or when they ran it with Ray Jean Rondo, 294 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: the three of those guys can't shoot. So you can 295 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:36,840 Speaker 1: run dramatic drop coverage against it, and you can have 296 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: the guards go underneath the screen. Kyrie Irving is a 297 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: ball handler that can run pick and roll with Anthony 298 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: Davis and one not allow you to switch because they're 299 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: two completely different defensive assignments, and to force you to 300 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,320 Speaker 1: chase over the top of the screen and bring your 301 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 1: big up because Kyrie will pull every single time coming 302 00:16:59,080 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: off of that screen. It completely flips the dynamic of 303 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: the way you can guard Anthony Davis as a screener 304 00:17:05,320 --> 00:17:08,280 Speaker 1: and will open up so many more things for Anthony 305 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:11,159 Speaker 1: Davis as a rollman or for Kyrie Irving coming off 306 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,360 Speaker 1: of those screens. To me, it's a home run basketball fit. 307 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:18,200 Speaker 1: We're gonna get a little bit more into the other 308 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: moves the Lakers made later, But again, as is always 309 00:17:21,800 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: the case with Kyrie, the idea of him is better 310 00:17:23,960 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: than the reality of him. The problem is is that 311 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: when he's on the floor, it looks great, but he's 312 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:32,080 Speaker 1: not always on the floor. The problem is that even 313 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:37,360 Speaker 1: when things are going well, his brain can be elsewhere. Famously, 314 00:17:37,400 --> 00:17:39,600 Speaker 1: in the two thousand seventeen playoff run, when the Calves 315 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: were clicking and beating the ship out of everybody, Kyrie 316 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: Irving was emotionally pulling away from the team. That's the risk. 317 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: The problem is that the Lakers don't have the flexibility 318 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: to say no to him because of their lack of 319 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: talent as far as the machinations of the trade. That 320 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:59,000 Speaker 1: the problem is is you can't just trade Russ for him, 321 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: because Russ makes a eleven million more dollars and is 322 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 1: a significantly worst basketball player. But a first round pick 323 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,920 Speaker 1: feels like too much for Kyrie right when no one 324 00:18:09,960 --> 00:18:13,000 Speaker 1: else is bidding on it, So you got to find 325 00:18:13,000 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: a delicate balance there. The way I see it, there 326 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: are two options. You can either ask for Seth Curry 327 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: in the deal and include the first round pick, or 328 00:18:25,640 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: you can remove the first round pick entirely and offer 329 00:18:28,000 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: to take the Joe Harris contracts Now, Joe Harris was 330 00:18:31,800 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: an excellent three and D player two years ago, and 331 00:18:36,520 --> 00:18:38,720 Speaker 1: the nineteen to twenty million I think he makes some 332 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 1: of the next two seasons doesn't seem like that big 333 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 1: of a deal for an excellent three D player. But 334 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:46,480 Speaker 1: I have heard from people that would know that his 335 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 1: ankle is still nowhere near ready to go, and he 336 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: may not be ready to play until about halfway through 337 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 1: this next season, so he's actually become a bad contract. 338 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,800 Speaker 1: So that might be an interesting way to get a 339 00:19:00,880 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 1: player back that you won't be able to use for 340 00:19:03,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: a little while. But that might be available for your 341 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,479 Speaker 1: next playoff run and save that first round pick so 342 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: that you can use it for something else. But either way, 343 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 1: it just feels like all the momentum is heading towards 344 00:19:14,200 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: Kyrie going to the Lakers, and that to me feels 345 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 1: like a realistic option. And also, Kyrie is doing the 346 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 1: work behind the scenes through his agent and letting everybody 347 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: know that's where he wants to go, and more often 348 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: than not, that will scare away teams when it comes 349 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: to paying real assets when push comes to shove, I 350 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 1: think Rob would do it for a first round pick anyway. 351 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: But I do think Kyrie will end up with the 352 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 1: Lakers and that might be just the thing that can 353 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,399 Speaker 1: get them back into the mix of things with their talent. Okay, 354 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:43,080 Speaker 1: so before we bring Carson on, a couple of quick announcements, 355 00:19:43,119 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: you guys that are listening, If you guys could please 356 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: subscribe to the Volumes YouTube channel, I would sincerely appreciate that. 357 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:50,200 Speaker 1: Please like this video it really helps us a lot. 358 00:19:50,560 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 1: Follow me on Twitter at underscore Jason lt so you 359 00:19:53,520 --> 00:19:55,399 Speaker 1: guys don't miss any more of O show announcements and 360 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:57,639 Speaker 1: things along those lines. 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It is 371 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:25,399 Speaker 1: good to see you as well, and it is a 372 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 1: great time to be an NBA fan as always, because 373 00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 1: you never know what's gonna happen. It seems felt like 374 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:33,040 Speaker 1: this was gonna be kind of a boring offseason for 375 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: a couple of days, and then obviously we have the 376 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:38,080 Speaker 1: k DNS. So, like you said, we're gonna walk through 377 00:20:38,119 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: some of the most interesting moves of the day, and 378 00:20:40,280 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 1: we're gonna play a game called love it or hate it. 379 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: You are gonna tell me if you love or hate 380 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 1: the moves, and we will start with the slew of 381 00:20:47,320 --> 00:20:50,439 Speaker 1: signings that the Lakers made today. They brought in Damien 382 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:52,720 Speaker 1: Jones on a two year deal, and Lonnie Walker the 383 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:56,080 Speaker 1: fourth Wantascano Anderson and Troy Brown Jr. All On one 384 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,119 Speaker 1: year deals. So, Jason, do you love that or do 385 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: you hate that? For the Lakes, I'm I love the 386 00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:09,959 Speaker 1: Damien Jones signing and I hate the Lonnie Walker signing, 387 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: the Troy Brown Junior and Juant Toscano Anderson signings. These 388 00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,119 Speaker 1: are veteran minimum contracts. So when it comes to this 389 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: sort of thing, there's not an exact science there. Everything 390 00:21:20,119 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 1: is a complete gamble. It's it's either old guys that 391 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: a good percentage of them don't pan out, and then 392 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 1: a good percentage of them do. So it's like it's 393 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: a total coin flip. You know. It's like you get 394 00:21:30,280 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: a mellow who ends up fitting great for you as 395 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: a spot of three point shooter, but then you get 396 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: like a you know, you'll you'll end up getting a um, um, 397 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 1: some other old guy that won't paying out like a 398 00:21:41,960 --> 00:21:47,359 Speaker 1: like a a DeAndre Jordan for instance. Um. The young guys, 399 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: it's a completely different story. You're usually getting a great 400 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:53,080 Speaker 1: deal of athleticism and enthusiasm and guys who play hard 401 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: for you and stay bought in, but they're usually too 402 00:21:56,280 --> 00:21:59,679 Speaker 1: inexperienced and too inconsistent to be reliable for you in 403 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:01,760 Speaker 1: a road patian, especially when you get into the postseason. 404 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:04,160 Speaker 1: But it is what it is. The Lakers had, though, 405 00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:08,360 Speaker 1: this mid level exception that every team gets once a season, 406 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 1: and I had said many times throughout the end of 407 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,440 Speaker 1: the season that they had to spend it on a 408 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 1: wing that was at least six eight that could guard 409 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 1: multiple positions, and that could absolutely certainly be in your 410 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: late game rotation. You're late like postseason rotation and close 411 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: games for you, especially when you're strapped like this and 412 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: you don't have the ability to offer money to other players. 413 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,159 Speaker 1: And for them to use their mid level exception on 414 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: another undersized, very athletic tons of potential, but for them 415 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: to use that slot on a player like Lonnie Walker, 416 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: who I like, who's a fine young player, the upside 417 00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:52,960 Speaker 1: of the of them signing is great because he's a 418 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 1: great athlete, he has extended stretches where he shoots the 419 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,920 Speaker 1: ball well, and then overall he's pretty inconsistent. I think 420 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 1: he's a career thirty four percent shooter. Can get into it, 421 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: can get into the lane, can defend when he's really committed. 422 00:23:03,920 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: All that stuff is great. The problem is is, are 423 00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:10,280 Speaker 1: you certain, like beyond a shadow of a doubt, that 424 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: Lonnie Walker can close basketball games for you in the 425 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: second round of the playoffs. I don't know, and that 426 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,200 Speaker 1: to me makes it the wrong use of those resources. 427 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,600 Speaker 1: The one thing I will throw the bone to Rob Polinka. 428 00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,760 Speaker 1: How many times have I preached about old plotting centers 429 00:23:26,760 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: and how useless they are in this NBA, and how 430 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: I almost prefer a six ten guy to a seven 431 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 1: foot guy who can run and can cover ground. You 432 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,760 Speaker 1: need to be able to get up and down the 433 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,239 Speaker 1: floor and transition when teams play fast, and you need 434 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: to be able to cover ground in five out. Damian 435 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: Jones is that guy. I watched him play for the 436 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: Lakers two years ago before they dumped him for Andre Drummond. 437 00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,440 Speaker 1: He was a great fit while he was there. He 438 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,119 Speaker 1: was really good towards the end of the year in 439 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,600 Speaker 1: Sacramento last year. I will say that that was the 440 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: right direction for them to go at the center position, 441 00:23:57,960 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 1: But I just I just can't believe that they didn't 442 00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: use mid level exception slot on a on a on 443 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:06,800 Speaker 1: a more traditional wing. So you've obviously talked a lot 444 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: about the need not just for Lakers but across the 445 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 1: league of having those guys wings in the six six 446 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: to six nine range who can guard multiple positions. And 447 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:18,200 Speaker 1: obviously all three of these guys are on the low 448 00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,439 Speaker 1: end of that spectrum, if not below that spectrum. There 449 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 1: are really long like abnormally, so I think all three 450 00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,320 Speaker 1: of the Wings have six ten plus wingspans. You also 451 00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: talked about how part of what made the Warriors so 452 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: strong this year, for example, is just that they had 453 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: good basketball players, Guys who were smart, who make good decisions, 454 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,280 Speaker 1: who played hard. J. T A I think has those traits. 455 00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:41,960 Speaker 1: Troy Brown Jr. Is not a great basketball player, but 456 00:24:41,960 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: he has some of the playmaking, some of the two 457 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: way abilities. So do you have any positive thoughts in 458 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: terms of, you know, outside of Lonnie Walker, with those 459 00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: other two wings investing obviously very little resources and guys 460 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,280 Speaker 1: who at least are in kind of the right mold, 461 00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:59,159 Speaker 1: or how how comfortable would you say you are with 462 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,040 Speaker 1: those two signings specifically. Well, what's funny about it too, 463 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: is I swear Rob Polinka just like listens to all 464 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 1: the Twitter trolls and then does the exact opposite of 465 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:11,400 Speaker 1: whatever he did. The previous season, it's like it's like, oh, 466 00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:13,240 Speaker 1: we lost to the Suns and no one could shoot, 467 00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: no one could score. It's like, Okay, I'm getting all 468 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,640 Speaker 1: guards and wings that don't guard and only play offense, 469 00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, and then it's like, uh, the entire narrative 470 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: last year was they're too old, they're washed up, and 471 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: so now it's all young, freaky athletic guys that you know, 472 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: that have all this potential. And you know, as far 473 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,439 Speaker 1: as the uh, they're limited offensive skill goes, you know, 474 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:35,960 Speaker 1: this is the issue. When you've got Lebron James and 475 00:25:35,960 --> 00:25:38,479 Speaker 1: Anthony Davis on the roster. Let's forget about Kyrie Irving 476 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,879 Speaker 1: for a second, who I believe will be a Laker. 477 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 1: If you have Lebron James and Anthony Davis on your roster, 478 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,199 Speaker 1: you're going to pack the paint. That's just you. It's 479 00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,359 Speaker 1: the only thing you can do. You can't hope to 480 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,440 Speaker 1: contain them any other way. It's what every team did 481 00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: this last year. It's what every team did the year before, 482 00:25:53,480 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: It's what every team did the year before that. So 483 00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,159 Speaker 1: you constantly find your guys in close out situations, and 484 00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:02,199 Speaker 1: in close out situations you need to do one of 485 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:04,879 Speaker 1: two things, really well. You either need to be a 486 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:07,679 Speaker 1: dead eye three point shooter, which Troy Bound Jr. Is not. 487 00:26:08,040 --> 00:26:10,560 Speaker 1: J Wants Uskano Anderson is not and Lonnie Walker is not. 488 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: Or you need to be a very very smart, savvy 489 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: close out attacker. I want you guys to think about 490 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: like a andre Iguadala for something like that. You know, 491 00:26:21,040 --> 00:26:23,240 Speaker 1: think about an Auto Porter Jr. These are guys that 492 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 1: are not, you know, necessarily overly athletic at this phase 493 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: of their careers, but you can count on them to 494 00:26:28,280 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: rip through when the guy closes out on them, get 495 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: into the lane, collapse the defense, and make the next 496 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 1: read and that sort of that sort of close out 497 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: attacking that those making those reads requires a great deal 498 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,199 Speaker 1: of experience and savvy and basketball like you not to 499 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,679 Speaker 1: say that those guys won't be able to do that 500 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: one day, but it's really hard to do. There's a 501 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 1: reason why he Wants Uskano Anderson fell out of the 502 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,359 Speaker 1: rotation for the Warriors. It's because the Warriors typically are 503 00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:55,080 Speaker 1: running a ton of four on three as a result 504 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:57,720 Speaker 1: of Steph Curry traps and the overall chaos that is 505 00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 1: caused by the Splash Brothers and wants us annoy Anderson 506 00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,240 Speaker 1: was less reliable as an intelligent decision maker in those situations. 507 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,120 Speaker 1: Doesn't mean they won't have moments. Anytime you have young 508 00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:09,479 Speaker 1: athletic players like this, they will have moments. There will 509 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:11,280 Speaker 1: be a game where the Lakers beat the ship out 510 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: of a good team and Wantasconna Anderson has fifteen and 511 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: Lonnie Warker is eighteen and they're locking up and everything 512 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 1: looks great. But with young players, it's always about consistency. 513 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,679 Speaker 1: They struggle to identify the things that are working for 514 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: them so that they can replicate them, and they struggle 515 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,040 Speaker 1: to identify the things that are not working for them 516 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 1: so that they can get them out of, you know, 517 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: their list of habits. So it's just it's one of 518 00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: those things where I wish Rob Polinka would just kind 519 00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,160 Speaker 1: of learn all the lessons from all of the things 520 00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: that happened over the last couple of years and build 521 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:43,520 Speaker 1: a more well rounded roster. If that makes sense. Yeah. Absolutely. 522 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:48,239 Speaker 1: Let's move on to the traditional free agency signing of 523 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,960 Speaker 1: the day, if you will, and one that we've heard 524 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: a lot about because obviously the pure market wasn't overwhelmingly 525 00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:57,920 Speaker 1: intriguing for this year, but Jalen Bronson was the name 526 00:27:57,960 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: that kept coming up, and the Knicks were the team him. 527 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 1: They kept coming up being attached to him. It seems 528 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:06,840 Speaker 1: as if he has very least headed to the Knicks 529 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 1: on a four year, close to one hundred and ten 530 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:12,800 Speaker 1: million dollar deal. Jason, what are your thoughts on that? 531 00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:17,000 Speaker 1: Do you love it or hate it? Well? I hate it, 532 00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: but they this interesting. The situation is is super interesting 533 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:24,520 Speaker 1: because like, uh, we don't really know what's happening. It 534 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:27,200 Speaker 1: seems like everyone's reporting that he's going to the Knicks. 535 00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: But then we got that weird Agrian war Zanowski tweet 536 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,919 Speaker 1: that he's going to meet with the Knicks armed with 537 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,040 Speaker 1: a five year, one six million dollar deal from the Mavericks. 538 00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:37,399 Speaker 1: So here's the one thing we know for sure, Jalen 539 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:40,959 Speaker 1: Brunson is going to be very rich after after today 540 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: or whatever this all gets gets settled. As far as 541 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: the Knicks go, I just don't understand with a brand 542 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:53,360 Speaker 1: as big as the Knicks, with the theoretic capable theoretical capability, 543 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,600 Speaker 1: they have to be able to bring big name free 544 00:28:55,600 --> 00:29:01,160 Speaker 1: agents if they could just demonstrate consistent competence, and like 545 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: this is a six one guard who is not an 546 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,920 Speaker 1: All Star or close to an All Star. He was 547 00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:13,120 Speaker 1: a pretty good playoff player in specific matchups. He's very 548 00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 1: good against the Jazz, was good for stretches against Phoenix, 549 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: was good for stretches against Golden State. But he also 550 00:29:19,000 --> 00:29:22,720 Speaker 1: struggled for stretches in both of those series. Everybody struggles 551 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 1: to the in the playoffs to certain extents. You don't 552 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 1: want to overread into that. But he was also doing 553 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: it against bench lineups primarily, or against the secondary defender. 554 00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,480 Speaker 1: As Luca was gathering the best defender going against or 555 00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: going into New York, he will get the best perimeter 556 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:39,320 Speaker 1: defender every single night. He will be going against first 557 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: units primarily. He'll be in the Luca don Che's role. 558 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: And here's the thing. It's very likely that he puts 559 00:29:45,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 1: up decent numbers, but that this team has a clearly 560 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: defined ceiling, and that probably is first round exit in 561 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:55,760 Speaker 1: an Eastern Conference that has a team as good as Miami, 562 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: a team as good as Boston, a team as good 563 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 1: as Milwaukee, and his team as good as Feeling. So 564 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: the way the problem that I have with it, if 565 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: I'm the Knicks, like man, keep developing your young players. 566 00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: Do what the Lakers did. Keep developing your young players, 567 00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: have your brandon Ingram, your Kyle Kuzmo, your Josh Hart, 568 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:18,480 Speaker 1: you know, your your Lonzo Ball, have them already, and 569 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:23,000 Speaker 1: keep that cap space open something each passing summer so 570 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 1: that you have the ability to get a real big 571 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: name free agent and then flip the rest of your 572 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240 Speaker 1: young players for one of his buddies. It's a proven method. 573 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: We saw the Clippers do it, we saw the Lakers 574 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,920 Speaker 1: do it. It works. It is a proven method. And 575 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:42,360 Speaker 1: I just don't understand this, like it's like a race 576 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:46,840 Speaker 1: to mediocrity. It's like they're sprinting fast as they possibly 577 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 1: can to lose to to Boston in the first round 578 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,360 Speaker 1: next year. I just don't understand the idea. And I 579 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 1: like Jalen Brunson. It's just and I'm happy that he's 580 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: getting paid. It's just as we're looking from the perspective 581 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: of the Knicks, I just don't understand what their goal is. 582 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: I completely agree with you. I think Brumpson is very good. 583 00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: I think he's fundamentally a willing, winning player. He does 584 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:09,600 Speaker 1: a lot of things really well. But it's an overpay, 585 00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:13,280 Speaker 1: and it's especially an overpay given the direction of the franchise. 586 00:31:13,400 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: So if you were the Knicks, how would you have 587 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,280 Speaker 1: gone about this offseason? Like, what would be the direction 588 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,480 Speaker 1: to take from your perspective? So I mean, well, look 589 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,440 Speaker 1: at what the Lakers did over the last couple of years. 590 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: Essentially they only tie up their core players that they 591 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 1: know are part of their future, right, so they had 592 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,440 Speaker 1: Lebron tied up, Anthony Davis tied up. Outside of that, 593 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,160 Speaker 1: there was no big money any anywhere else on the 594 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 1: uh on the roster, and they consistently signed their supporting 595 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: pieces to one year deals, so you can essentially rotate 596 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:50,120 Speaker 1: them through each passing summer. It's okay to be towards 597 00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:54,040 Speaker 1: the bottom of the league as long as you're demonstrating competence, 598 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 1: if you have a good coach, if you guys play 599 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: hard every single night, if you're competitive, if you draft well, 600 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,560 Speaker 1: and if you show you demonstrate to the rest of 601 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: the league that you're building something. What happened with the 602 00:32:02,840 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: Lakers in two thousand nineteen, they demonstrated to Lebron over 603 00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: the previous years. Because here's the thing. The Lakers are 604 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:12,120 Speaker 1: an absolute ship show, as everybody knows, but they have 605 00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:14,520 Speaker 1: one department in their front office that's one of the 606 00:32:14,520 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: best in the league, and that's their college scouting department. 607 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:21,480 Speaker 1: They consistently year and in year out find high quality 608 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,200 Speaker 1: NBA players on the margins. This past year they did 609 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: it again with Austin Reeves. It makes you really wonder 610 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:29,160 Speaker 1: what this Max Christie kid can do, because it's like 611 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: his kid who didn't shoot well at Michigan State and 612 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: I think only average like nine points a game, and 613 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: you're like, you almost can just bet that he's gonna 614 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: be a rotation player for the Lakers next year because 615 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 1: that's just what they do. So that one piece of 616 00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: competence in the Lakers front office demonstrated over a half 617 00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: decade that they knew how to accumulate quality young players 618 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 1: that the rest of the league wanted. And then they 619 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:53,760 Speaker 1: kept their cap space open, and then when Lebron came, 620 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 1: they immediately flipped all of the assets for Anthony Davis. 621 00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080 Speaker 1: You can absolutely do something like that. I'll give you 622 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:02,280 Speaker 1: an example. Let's say that you had all this cap 623 00:33:02,320 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 1: space open and you went after Bradley Beale and Bradley 624 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 1: Bill already signed with the Wizards. I just want to 625 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: give you guys an example of what I'm talking about 626 00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:12,000 Speaker 1: Bradley bal Is really good friends with a Jason Tatum. Right, 627 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,520 Speaker 1: Let's pretend you know the uh something things didn't go 628 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: as well with the Celtics last year. You sign a 629 00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: Bill and Bill goes Tatum's my best friend. Let's trade 630 00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:22,840 Speaker 1: for him. Again, that's not going to happen. But there 631 00:33:22,840 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: are little friendships like that all around the league. All 632 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: you have to do is catch the right free agent 633 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 1: in the right summer, and the right friend who's in 634 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:32,240 Speaker 1: a situation where he's not overly happy, and have the 635 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:35,040 Speaker 1: requisite assets to make the trade. If you can pull 636 00:33:35,080 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 1: off those three things just like that, you can have 637 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:40,719 Speaker 1: the star talent you need to compete. And again, this 638 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:43,680 Speaker 1: is not Milwaukee, this is not Oklahoma City. You don't 639 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: have to, you know, build on the margins and hope 640 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:48,760 Speaker 1: that things break your way. You are the New York 641 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: freaking Knicks. Okay, you absolutely if you can demonstrate competence, 642 00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,720 Speaker 1: you absolutely provide these players with a world stage, the 643 00:33:57,800 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: Mecca of basketball, the all all of the history that 644 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 1: comes along with it. You can absolutely pull these huge 645 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: personalities in the NBA. You just have to kind of have, uh, 646 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: you gotta have the opportunity ready each passing summer as 647 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: these guys come available. As we all know, it just 648 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,719 Speaker 1: depends on which which particular summer you catch, and you 649 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,120 Speaker 1: catch the right star who's ready to make that move. 650 00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 1: Al Right, Well, we do have word from Woes now 651 00:34:23,200 --> 00:34:26,399 Speaker 1: confirming Jason. It is a four year, one hundred four 652 00:34:26,440 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: million dollar deal for Bronson with the Knicks, with a 653 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,120 Speaker 1: player option on the final season. So there you go 654 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 1: the march. But I'm glad you got all that money. Man, 655 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna be rich. I'm happy for Jalen. This is 656 00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 1: not a Jalen take. This is a This is a 657 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,400 Speaker 1: New York Knicks take. Yeah, and I don't think anybody 658 00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 1: can really be opposed to a New York next take. So, 659 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 1: but you mentioned Bradley deal there in the example that 660 00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:54,840 Speaker 1: you gave with him and Tatum. He did, of course 661 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 1: signed the super Max to stay in Washington, or at 662 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,279 Speaker 1: least to be paid by Washington in five years two 663 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 1: hundred and fifty one million dollars. Jason, do you love 664 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: or do you hate that move? It makes sense for 665 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,480 Speaker 1: both sides. It's very similar to what happened with Janice, right, 666 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 1: Like Janice is a little bit unhappy with how things 667 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 1: are going. You know, Milwaukee can provide him the biggest, 668 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,440 Speaker 1: most financially lucrative contract, and so you basically just signed 669 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:26,719 Speaker 1: the guy and you tell Janice like, hey man, two 670 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: years go by and this isn't going well, we'll trade you. 671 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:31,560 Speaker 1: But then maybe things break well and you win a championship, 672 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,760 Speaker 1: and now he's gonna be there forever, right Like That's 673 00:35:33,800 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: that's kind of the way it can break the other way. 674 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: But like, if you're the Wizards, you never want to 675 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 1: lose the asset for nothing. You sign him. If things 676 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 1: aren't going well around the deadline and you're way below 677 00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:46,359 Speaker 1: five hundred or next year's deadline or whatever it is, 678 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,040 Speaker 1: you can at that point trade Bradley Beale and get 679 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: some sort of asset return for him. If you're Bradley, 680 00:35:52,600 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 1: this is just where all the money is. You take 681 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:56,440 Speaker 1: all the money and you have that flexibility. This is 682 00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,960 Speaker 1: where that cachet matters. And this is what I'm so 683 00:35:59,080 --> 00:36:01,120 Speaker 1: curious about what the glen nets as it pertains to 684 00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:07,040 Speaker 1: k D and Kyrie. You know, we have seen that franchises, 685 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: when they feel a sense of loyalty from a player 686 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:11,880 Speaker 1: that they're willing to work with them, but when you 687 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:15,359 Speaker 1: burn that bridge and the working relationship suffers, they're less 688 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: willing to do you favors. And Bradley Beale has built 689 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: up a great deal of cash a with the Wizards. 690 00:36:20,560 --> 00:36:23,080 Speaker 1: Obviously I don't have intel on this, but I would 691 00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: be willing to bet that the conversation was, Hey, dude, 692 00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:29,399 Speaker 1: signed with us, You've been so good to us. When 693 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:31,480 Speaker 1: you're ready to go, we'll ship you off and if 694 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: you give us a list of three or four teams 695 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: that you like, will get you to one of those 696 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:36,840 Speaker 1: three or four teams based on who gives up the 697 00:36:36,840 --> 00:36:39,000 Speaker 1: most assets. To me, that's kind of like the new 698 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:43,000 Speaker 1: modern day free agency, where you're basically just you're chasing 699 00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,640 Speaker 1: the money and getting that sort of uh, you know, 700 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 1: freedom of choice from the trade market. All right, well, Jason, 701 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: we've got a Lakers related move to get your thoughts 702 00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: on here. Malik Monk the King's for two years, nineteen 703 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:03,680 Speaker 1: million dollars. Do you love? Do you hate? That? So? 704 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: I would love it for the Lakers if they didn't 705 00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:11,040 Speaker 1: promptly go sign another small guard with the mid level exception. 706 00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:13,960 Speaker 1: My whole theory was this entire Laker off season was 707 00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,799 Speaker 1: you have to. Even though I love Malik Monk's game 708 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:22,000 Speaker 1: and he deserves every penny of that deal, with this 709 00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:25,919 Speaker 1: particular Lakers roster, he did not fit a specific need 710 00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: for them. His there was a there was a diminished 711 00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:33,760 Speaker 1: return on his specific skill set because of their perimeter 712 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: size weaknesses. So I wanted them to use the mid 713 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:39,520 Speaker 1: level exception on a bigger forward because that was their 714 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,920 Speaker 1: specific weakness. That's where I wanted them to allocate those resources. 715 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Same goes for the Kings. In this case, You've already 716 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: got a small guard and deer and fox That's already 717 00:37:52,040 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: an issue there, okay. And so from that standpoint, like 718 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,000 Speaker 1: I don't like the idea of partnering, and I get 719 00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: I get it the Kentucky connection and the guys are 720 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: good buddies and all that stuff. If you're the Kings, 721 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,280 Speaker 1: you just put a hard ceiling on your own individual 722 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,760 Speaker 1: or your own team success because in this league, perimeter 723 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,719 Speaker 1: size does matter. Your ability to contain ball handlers on 724 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: the perimeter matters, and night in and night out around 725 00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 1: the league. Just like Malik was attacked with the Lakers, 726 00:38:18,600 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: and just like Daron Foxes is still attacked to this day, 727 00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: they're gonna struggle to contain teams on the perimeter, especially 728 00:38:24,160 --> 00:38:26,680 Speaker 1: in the Western Conference, which is freaking loaded with guards. 729 00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,240 Speaker 1: What if Kyrie comes, Man, it's gonna be Jamal Murray 730 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:32,680 Speaker 1: one night, Kyrie Irving the next night, Steph Curry the 731 00:38:32,719 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 1: following night, Damian Lillard the next night. Like that. It's 732 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,200 Speaker 1: gonna be night after night of dominant guard and you 733 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,480 Speaker 1: don't have the perimeter defensive pieces to contain that. Okay, 734 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 1: so you're gonna, um, gosh, I'm blanking on his name. 735 00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: What's the little guard they signed last year? Uh? The 736 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,520 Speaker 1: kid out of Louisville. Do you remember, um, the little 737 00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 1: stocky defensive guard. Yeah, the King's uh it's uh oh 738 00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:02,080 Speaker 1: man Mitchell, Davean Mitchell. So like Davion Mitchell, great defensive player, right, 739 00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:03,960 Speaker 1: So he put him out there to help with dribble contain. 740 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,360 Speaker 1: And now you got a bench malik or you're playing 741 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 1: three tiny guards, you know, Like I just I don't, 742 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:12,120 Speaker 1: As is always the case for the Kings, I just 743 00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 1: don't understand what their plan is. And and like you 744 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: literally um u Ivy was there for the take in 745 00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:25,000 Speaker 1: taking at the draft, and then you took the plotting forward. 746 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,000 Speaker 1: Who would have made more sense with a team that's 747 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:29,120 Speaker 1: closer to the to the title, you know what I mean. 748 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: So I just the Kings are gonna Kings. That's what 749 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: we said after the draft. And and again I'm really 750 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,319 Speaker 1: happy from a leak that he got paid. I just 751 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: think he would have made more sense going to a 752 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,680 Speaker 1: team that already had a great deal of size on 753 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 1: the perimeter, so that you can compensate for his specific 754 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:48,320 Speaker 1: size weakness. Well, like you, I have quite an affinity 755 00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,880 Speaker 1: from Leak's game individually, but the King's not Unlike the Knicks. 756 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,279 Speaker 1: I agree, continue on the march to mediocrity, and this 757 00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:58,800 Speaker 1: deal is a continuation of that for a team that 758 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,720 Speaker 1: is actually in contin pending mode. You've got an interesting move. 759 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:06,280 Speaker 1: The Bucks bring in Joe Ingles with their midlevel exception, 760 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,560 Speaker 1: obviously coming off of his injury. Jason, do you love 761 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:13,480 Speaker 1: that or do you hate that? I love it again? 762 00:40:13,840 --> 00:40:17,319 Speaker 1: The playoffs don't lie. They reveal everything, and you got 763 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,920 Speaker 1: to pay attention to what that you know, all revealing 764 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:24,520 Speaker 1: playoff run will show you what did we learn about 765 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 1: the Bucks this year? Obviously, Chris Middleton's injury was a 766 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:30,160 Speaker 1: big impact there, but there was where was the weak 767 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: spot in the rotation. Kind of felt like it was 768 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,319 Speaker 1: Grace and Allen right, kind of felt like a little 769 00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 1: bit of like Pat Conaton inconsistency. Right, what you need 770 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: is another guy who can guard on the perimeter. Now, 771 00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,800 Speaker 1: Joel Ingles is coming off an injury, so it remains 772 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: to be seen. But I mean, this is a player that, 773 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: before he got hurt, was as reliable of a three 774 00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:49,680 Speaker 1: D guy that you'll find in the league. This is 775 00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,560 Speaker 1: the guy that completely shut down Paul George when they 776 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,799 Speaker 1: upset the Oklahoma City Thunder a few years back. Like, 777 00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,360 Speaker 1: this guy is a very good perimeter defensive player with size. 778 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: It was a lights out three points. And most importantly, 779 00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: like we talked about earlier, Carson, when you have guys 780 00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:07,120 Speaker 1: that forced you to pack the paint and Janice might 781 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,759 Speaker 1: literally might literally be the quintessential player that fits this 782 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,799 Speaker 1: mold in the entire league. Boston was literally ignoring everybody 783 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: on Milwaukee to clog the paint on Janice and in 784 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,960 Speaker 1: Game seven, they just couldn't make a shot. Having a 785 00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 1: guy like Joe Angles who can knock down the shot 786 00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:25,759 Speaker 1: and is an intelligent closeout attacker, a guy that can 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: get into the lane and make smart reads to other 788 00:41:28,760 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: perimeter players on kickouts. I loved it. This to me 789 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 1: is an example of using your mid level exception on 790 00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,879 Speaker 1: a player that addresses a specific need and that you 791 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:41,319 Speaker 1: know can play in a playoff series. I know Joe 792 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,320 Speaker 1: Angles can be your fifth player in a closing lineup, 793 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: not sure that Lonnie Walker can be that. So just again, 794 00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:49,560 Speaker 1: this is a smart team behaving smarter than the other 795 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,439 Speaker 1: teams around the league. I loved Angles to the Bucks. Yeah, 796 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,040 Speaker 1: and he will be thirty five, and I did think 797 00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,759 Speaker 1: he regressed a bit even pre injury, but two years 798 00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: ago I thought he should have been six Man of 799 00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,279 Speaker 1: the Year. Genuinely. I mean he is a winning basketball 800 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: player to the extreme, and so to get that with 801 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,000 Speaker 1: the m l E is pretty good. All Right, last 802 00:42:09,080 --> 00:42:11,640 Speaker 1: specific couple of moves here that we're gonna get your 803 00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:14,279 Speaker 1: take on before we go to some questions. Jason, the 804 00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:18,000 Speaker 1: Philadelphia seventy six ers brought in p. J. Tucker for 805 00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:20,919 Speaker 1: three years thirty three million and Daniel House for two 806 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:23,360 Speaker 1: years eight and a half. Do you love that or 807 00:42:23,400 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: do you hate that? For Philly? I love it. But 808 00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,440 Speaker 1: first of all, guys, before we before I finished this 809 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,879 Speaker 1: particular take. Remember we are about to do a mail back, 810 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:35,240 Speaker 1: so if you guys have any questions about anything related 811 00:42:35,280 --> 00:42:37,640 Speaker 1: to free agency, please drop it into the chat and 812 00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 1: we will get to it here in just a minute. UM. 813 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,239 Speaker 1: The numbers seem big, right, particularly for Tucker three years 814 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:47,680 Speaker 1: thirty three million. It was the biennial exception on Daniel 815 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,520 Speaker 1: House that means it hardcaps the team. So I'll be 816 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,239 Speaker 1: curious to see if that restricts some of their flexibility 817 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,799 Speaker 1: as they get closer to the deadline. UM this year. 818 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, again, the playoffs 819 00:42:59,080 --> 00:43:01,320 Speaker 1: are all revealing. What did we learn about the seventy 820 00:43:01,320 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 1: six ers this year? I felt like they were soft. 821 00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:10,040 Speaker 1: I felt like they struggled against a very tough team 822 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:15,080 Speaker 1: in Miami to match their intensity, to match their competitiveness. 823 00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,920 Speaker 1: When you when the star of your team, is it 824 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:24,960 Speaker 1: Joe l Embiid who is a foul grifter, relatively inefficient 825 00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:26,760 Speaker 1: in terms of putting the ball in the basket compared 826 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,200 Speaker 1: to other bigs around the league, guy who relies on 827 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: jan Kie basketball and can be pouty and can be 828 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,520 Speaker 1: dramatic and can fall on the ground a lot. And 829 00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 1: then your other stars James Harden who arguably is the 830 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:43,000 Speaker 1: least you know, in terms of like the fight or 831 00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: flight response. He might be closer to flight than any 832 00:43:46,600 --> 00:43:50,600 Speaker 1: superstar star in this entire league. You need somebody to 833 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:55,560 Speaker 1: help bolster their own psychological weaknesses. And so I love 834 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:58,400 Speaker 1: the idea of bringing in p J. Tucker and Daniel 835 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: House to just tough s O B S dude, just 836 00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:05,800 Speaker 1: tough dudes that are just gonna come in there and compete. 837 00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: And when a team like Miami comes and punches him 838 00:44:08,680 --> 00:44:11,600 Speaker 1: in the mouth, even if James Harden enjoy the Beach 839 00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:15,439 Speaker 1: struggled to match that with their competitiveness, you know, damn well, 840 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: p J. Tucker and Daniel House are gonna be right 841 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:20,760 Speaker 1: in there, barking back, getting in their faces, being physical, 842 00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,439 Speaker 1: and doing the things necessary to try to rest that 843 00:44:24,480 --> 00:44:28,759 Speaker 1: battle back into their favor. You know, Draymond, that Draymond J. J. 844 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: Reddick pod was so interesting the other day, and and J. J. 845 00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,160 Speaker 1: Reddick was he was, I don't know if you heard 846 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,959 Speaker 1: this part card of a J. J. Reddick was giving 847 00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,960 Speaker 1: Draymond crap for his antics in the finals, and at 848 00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:40,439 Speaker 1: one point He's like, why are you such a dick? 849 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,200 Speaker 1: You know, Draymond's like defending himself. But you know what's 850 00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,319 Speaker 1: funny is what Draymond was saying was true because they 851 00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:48,080 Speaker 1: were showing some of the clips of him, like doing 852 00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,560 Speaker 1: ridiculous stuff in the finals, fallon the hell out of people. 853 00:44:51,360 --> 00:44:54,279 Speaker 1: There's some truth to what Draymond was saying. When there's 854 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:58,680 Speaker 1: someone on the court doing that stuff, it rattles people. 855 00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:02,200 Speaker 1: It don't like. I know Jalen Brown doesn't believe it, 856 00:45:02,200 --> 00:45:03,799 Speaker 1: and I know he pushed back on again again on 857 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,319 Speaker 1: it today. That kind of thing does rittle people. It 858 00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:10,840 Speaker 1: gets in your head. And the Sixers needed needed people 859 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:13,400 Speaker 1: like that in their locker room, people that are willing 860 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: to fight back in that department to help win that 861 00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,640 Speaker 1: mental battle because you're just not going to get that 862 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:25,560 Speaker 1: type of fight response from Embden. From Harden, I agree 863 00:45:25,560 --> 00:45:27,680 Speaker 1: with you completely there, and I think we've seen that 864 00:45:27,719 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: time and again. All Right, So let's get to the 865 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,680 Speaker 1: mail back here, because we've got some good k D stuff. 866 00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:36,120 Speaker 1: Some theoretical trades will start with this from from Taylor 867 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: O'Neill Jason. Should the Nets send Katie to the Rockets 868 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:46,640 Speaker 1: for their draft picks back plus some young projects. Oh man, 869 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:51,720 Speaker 1: that'd be so me into. Katie would us. Well again, 870 00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,240 Speaker 1: this is this is where we get into the cache stuff, 871 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,760 Speaker 1: because like, like if I was Brooklyn and I really 872 00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: want to disturb the pot, especially you know, we're also 873 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:05,200 Speaker 1: coming up on some CBA negotiations here relatively soon, and 874 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,360 Speaker 1: the word around the league is is that the owners 875 00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:10,200 Speaker 1: are gonna be trying to rest back some control. That 876 00:46:10,239 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: would be one hell of a power move from Brooklyn. 877 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: The ship Katie off to NBA Siberia and Houston. Here's 878 00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:20,839 Speaker 1: the thing, there's absolutely no reason for Houston to do 879 00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: it because they don't have enough talent to make a 880 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:28,879 Speaker 1: run with Katie, and I believe that Brooklyn can get 881 00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: better young players elsewhere around the league. So as I 882 00:46:32,080 --> 00:46:34,360 Speaker 1: get why as a Houston fan that might be interesting, 883 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:37,640 Speaker 1: it just is completely unrealistic and quite frankly, like I'm 884 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: sure Kg's at Katie's agent would throw an absolute fit. 885 00:46:42,640 --> 00:46:45,640 Speaker 1: All Right, how about this one? Jason, Katie to the 886 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,560 Speaker 1: Pacers for Malcolm Brogden, Miles Turner, t J. Warren, t 887 00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,919 Speaker 1: J McConnell in three first round picks. That's a lot 888 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:53,880 Speaker 1: of money. So you're gonna have to throw some stuff 889 00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:56,360 Speaker 1: in with Katie there. But what do you think of 890 00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,839 Speaker 1: that in theory, and then we're going We're going out 891 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:05,160 Speaker 1: with Katie and Tyrese Halliburton at that point just the same, 892 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:09,520 Speaker 1: the same same thing as the Rockets, Like it's it's 893 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:11,360 Speaker 1: one of those things where it burns the bridge with 894 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,600 Speaker 1: Katie because him and his agent are gonna be piss 895 00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:15,840 Speaker 1: you shipped him off somewhere where he can't win. The 896 00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:19,040 Speaker 1: Pacers are still not gonna win. And if I'm uh, 897 00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:21,640 Speaker 1: if I'm the Nets, I'm not getting enough back for 898 00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,439 Speaker 1: that to really move the needle. Like even all of that, 899 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,479 Speaker 1: I'd rather have Scotty Barnes, even all of that, I'd 900 00:47:27,560 --> 00:47:30,480 Speaker 1: rather have Zion Williamson. I'd rather have even some of 901 00:47:30,520 --> 00:47:34,200 Speaker 1: those theoretical packages from Phoenix involving Aton and Bridges, I'd 902 00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:39,000 Speaker 1: rather have those. Yeah. Well, like you said, all thirty 903 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:41,600 Speaker 1: teams are calling, and I'm sure all thirty fan bases 904 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:43,720 Speaker 1: want to try to find a way to get Katie 905 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:46,800 Speaker 1: in there. What do you think is the single least 906 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:50,560 Speaker 1: logical or perhaps cruelest location for Katie to go in 907 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: the league. Oh, I got one for you, Carson, Okay, 908 00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:05,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in exchange for Andrew Wiggins, Jonathan cominga and 909 00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:12,279 Speaker 1: Moses Moodie and we run it back. Yeah. Can you 910 00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,200 Speaker 1: imagine could someone photoshop a couple of those really quick 911 00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:17,319 Speaker 1: for us? No. I was thinking about that the other 912 00:48:17,400 --> 00:48:21,160 Speaker 1: day because, like I, I don't think the Nets would 913 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:23,640 Speaker 1: do it, because I mean, I know the Warriors fans 914 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,480 Speaker 1: love their young prospects, and Colin Coward in particular is 915 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,919 Speaker 1: very high and Jonathan Comedica and I like Jonathan Comigo two, 916 00:48:29,000 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: He's just not a home run. None of those guys, 917 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:33,759 Speaker 1: none of their young players are sure things. And I 918 00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: would imagine that Brooklyn will be able to fetch a 919 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:38,719 Speaker 1: sure thing. But that is an interesting idea in the 920 00:48:38,760 --> 00:48:41,399 Speaker 1: sense that, like, you know, the basketball fit is great, 921 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:44,960 Speaker 1: and I'm sure the Warriors would make that trade. It's 922 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:46,880 Speaker 1: just it's just one of those things where I just 923 00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,719 Speaker 1: think they'll end up getting something else elsewhere. Yeah, that 924 00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:53,200 Speaker 1: would be hilarious. Though. Oh wait, can I can I 925 00:48:53,239 --> 00:48:59,240 Speaker 1: throw out one? So I got roasted the other day 926 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:03,560 Speaker 1: for my proposed Lakers Nets trade, and I understand the 927 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,080 Speaker 1: skepticism because I and again, guys, this is fake trade season. 928 00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,439 Speaker 1: Almost everything we're saying is unlikely. So I'm not over 929 00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:14,640 Speaker 1: here trying to to be prescient or anything. But I 930 00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,680 Speaker 1: am genuinely curious to see when it's all said and 931 00:49:17,719 --> 00:49:22,880 Speaker 1: done and the moves are made, whether or not Brooklyn 932 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:30,279 Speaker 1: gets much more than Anthony Davis first, because you have 933 00:49:30,360 --> 00:49:32,440 Speaker 1: to think, even if you didn't think Anthony Davis was 934 00:49:32,440 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 1: in your timeline, Brooklyn could theoretically flip him for a 935 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,200 Speaker 1: huge package, right. And so it's one of those things 936 00:49:40,239 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: where like, again it's super unlikely, but that Russ and 937 00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:48,440 Speaker 1: a D and the two first for k D and 938 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: and Kyrie. I just it's not as insane as everyone 939 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: thought it was. That's all I'm gonna say. That's I 940 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: it's not likely. Not put my name on it, but 941 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: I'm just saying I I didn't think it was that 942 00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:03,440 Speaker 1: outland this all right, Well, let's take a quick break 943 00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,320 Speaker 1: from some Katie talk here to look at a team 944 00:50:06,360 --> 00:50:08,560 Speaker 1: that was on the biggest NBA stage this year and 945 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:10,560 Speaker 1: fell just a little bit short, and that of course 946 00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 1: is the Boston Celtics. So you got this question from 947 00:50:13,880 --> 00:50:17,719 Speaker 1: steel O Green Jason, who do you think the Celtics 948 00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 1: should look to bring in to help the core guys 949 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: on their roster? So the big one that stood out 950 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,160 Speaker 1: to me, and there's some intel in this department already. 951 00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,520 Speaker 1: The intel is that they're targeting t J. Warren and 952 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,960 Speaker 1: Daniella Gallinari. But I think both of those guys want 953 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:37,080 Speaker 1: the mid level exception um and they may end up 954 00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:38,960 Speaker 1: going somewhere where they can get a little bit more 955 00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 1: of a bigger role. Daniella Gallinari is a name that 956 00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,960 Speaker 1: I've thrown out that I'd love for the Warriors to 957 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: get um in terms of a great way for them 958 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:50,040 Speaker 1: to elevate their ceiling the late The Celtics need ball 959 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,680 Speaker 1: handling and they need someone who can can consistently get 960 00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 1: shots at the rim. So this year, I can't remember 961 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,360 Speaker 1: the numbers exactly off top my head, but Daniella Gallinari 962 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:04,680 Speaker 1: had about a hundred and forty something post ups hundred 963 00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: forty six post ups I think, and he was about 964 00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,359 Speaker 1: fifty six percent from the field in those situations, got 965 00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,600 Speaker 1: to the line thirty eight times, made thirty six of 966 00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,600 Speaker 1: them only at ten turnovers. He was one of the 967 00:51:13,640 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: more efficient post up players in the league this year 968 00:51:16,000 --> 00:51:18,120 Speaker 1: in a decent volume. He was doing over two post 969 00:51:18,160 --> 00:51:21,279 Speaker 1: ups per game. I liked him as an option that 970 00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 1: you know, theoretically, if you've got Marcus Smart on the floor, 971 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 1: Jason Tatum on the floor, Jalen Brown on the floor, 972 00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: and their ball pressuring the hell out of those guys. 973 00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:31,080 Speaker 1: Daniella Gallanari is probably gonna fetch a slower forward that's 974 00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: gonna struggle with ball pressure. So you could see him 975 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,879 Speaker 1: as a guy who they could use as a release 976 00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:36,799 Speaker 1: valve to bring the ball up the floor when they're 977 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:38,680 Speaker 1: struggling to get into the paint. Because guys are sitting 978 00:51:38,680 --> 00:51:40,200 Speaker 1: on the right hands, you could throw the ball into 979 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,360 Speaker 1: the post to Daniella Gallinari. And again, post ups that 980 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:46,279 Speaker 1: draw double teams are another great way to get into 981 00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: your driving kick game. And driving kick is where Boston's 982 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: at their best. So again they're they're all they're gonna 983 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:54,759 Speaker 1: have at their disposal is going to be you know, 984 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:58,080 Speaker 1: veteran minimum contracts and mid level exception type stuff. They're 985 00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:00,520 Speaker 1: all all of their players in their rotation in our 986 00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: under team control this year. Grant Williams has got a 987 00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,200 Speaker 1: team option, but it either already picked it up or 988 00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,839 Speaker 1: they're going to um. But that the guy that I'd 989 00:52:07,840 --> 00:52:09,600 Speaker 1: be looking at there is Denila Callinari on the mid 990 00:52:09,680 --> 00:52:13,439 Speaker 1: level exception. Okay, I said we were going to take 991 00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,400 Speaker 1: a break from Katie. I hope that was enough to recharge, 992 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,360 Speaker 1: because you've got another Katie questions one from Neo Verdon. 993 00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 1: Is it possible that Katie wants to join the Suns 994 00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:26,280 Speaker 1: besides the fact that they have Book and CP already, 995 00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,240 Speaker 1: because I have his new super team in the West 996 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,080 Speaker 1: and therefore get a chance to beat Lebron and Steph 997 00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:35,160 Speaker 1: in the same playoff run and win the championship in 998 00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,680 Speaker 1: that style. Do you think that's a factor, Jason, I don't, 999 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,680 Speaker 1: because I mean, for those of you guys who listen 1000 00:52:41,719 --> 00:52:44,840 Speaker 1: to the beginning, I think the valuable lesson that Katie 1001 00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 1: learned here is that he can't control the narrative. And 1002 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,560 Speaker 1: as much as he tried to in Brooklyn, as much 1003 00:52:52,840 --> 00:52:54,840 Speaker 1: as much as he put that at the top of 1004 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,200 Speaker 1: his list of priorities, it ended up being the wrong 1005 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: way for him to go about this. I think Kate 1006 00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:02,600 Speaker 1: he cares about one thing and one thing only moving forward, 1007 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: and that's basketball, and I think he would pick a 1008 00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:09,280 Speaker 1: destination based on the potential basketball fit. Phoenix in Miami, 1009 00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:12,640 Speaker 1: what were they compared to the rest of the league? Phoenix, 1010 00:53:12,680 --> 00:53:14,600 Speaker 1: we said most of the year was the most talented 1011 00:53:14,680 --> 00:53:17,399 Speaker 1: roster from top to bottom. Not counting their stars right 1012 00:53:18,120 --> 00:53:21,800 Speaker 1: in Miami is basically Golden State East without enough talent. 1013 00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:25,640 Speaker 1: K D in theory fixes those problems for both of 1014 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,480 Speaker 1: the teams. The problem is is, like we talked about earlier, 1015 00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:30,760 Speaker 1: I'm just not sure if I'm Brooklyn and I'm getting 1016 00:53:30,760 --> 00:53:33,160 Speaker 1: anything back there that moves the needle for me. So, 1017 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 1: as we learned, because of an obscure cb A rule 1018 00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:39,280 Speaker 1: having to do with the Designated Rookie extension, the Miami 1019 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,160 Speaker 1: Heat cannot send bam At a bio to the Brooklyn 1020 00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:45,040 Speaker 1: because they already have Ben Simmons on the roster. I mean, 1021 00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,560 Speaker 1: I mean, I suppose the in theory could send Ben 1022 00:53:48,120 --> 00:53:49,719 Speaker 1: as well in the trade, but it would get a 1023 00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,279 Speaker 1: lot more complicated. So it's like, is Tyler Harrow and 1024 00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: some draft picks from a team that's gonna perennially be good. 1025 00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,040 Speaker 1: Is that moving the needle of your Brooklyn? No? Probably not. 1026 00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:05,880 Speaker 1: And then DeAndre Ayton Phoenix doesn't want him, you know 1027 00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:07,799 Speaker 1: if you heard some noise from Detroit, but then they 1028 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:12,040 Speaker 1: didn't want him. Why because just like the NBA, just 1029 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:14,200 Speaker 1: like the NFL, figured out that running backs were kind 1030 00:54:14,200 --> 00:54:17,880 Speaker 1: of a market inefficiency that you could get of Ezekiel 1031 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: Elliott for of the salary. You can do the same 1032 00:54:21,160 --> 00:54:25,000 Speaker 1: thing with centers in the NBA. Damien Jones for the 1033 00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:30,000 Speaker 1: Lakers will be you know what, sixty sevent as good 1034 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:35,000 Speaker 1: as a Clint Capella for veteran minimum, Like that's that's 1035 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:37,760 Speaker 1: just what you're getting. When that role, when that position 1036 00:54:37,840 --> 00:54:42,759 Speaker 1: on the floor screens and dives to the rim and 1037 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,760 Speaker 1: sits in the dunker spot and guards and drop coverage 1038 00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:51,960 Speaker 1: and occasionally guards a guy on a switch and doesn't 1039 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 1: do anything else, then an A plus plus plus at 1040 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,200 Speaker 1: all those things is only a little bit better than 1041 00:54:58,239 --> 00:55:00,640 Speaker 1: a B minus at all of those things. And so 1042 00:55:00,680 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 1: I just don't if I'm Brooklyn, the idea of getting 1043 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:06,279 Speaker 1: back DeAndre Aton on a super max or max excuse me, 1044 00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:09,360 Speaker 1: it doesn't make much sense. And then you know, Michael Bridges, 1045 00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:12,440 Speaker 1: you and I talked all year Carson about what it 1046 00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: might look like if he had an opporunity, opportunity to 1047 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: do more offensively. He had that opportunity against Dallas, and 1048 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,800 Speaker 1: he couldn't really do it. And I really like Michael Bridges, 1049 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: and I do think he will get better, But to me, 1050 00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:28,960 Speaker 1: his peak will be kind of like what Andrea Iguadala 1051 00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:32,320 Speaker 1: was for the two thousand fifteen Warriors, a really really 1052 00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,759 Speaker 1: dumbinant perimeter defensive player that can have scoring punches and 1053 00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:40,560 Speaker 1: will be a smart, you know, third fourth option. But 1054 00:55:40,640 --> 00:55:42,719 Speaker 1: I just don't ever see him being that guy. And 1055 00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,560 Speaker 1: so it's just as much as those destinations are k 1056 00:55:46,760 --> 00:55:50,919 Speaker 1: ds preferred destination, they'd have to give up too much 1057 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,319 Speaker 1: talent to get him, and then they'd be right back 1058 00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: in the same predicament. And then most importantly, if I'm Brooklyn, 1059 00:55:56,719 --> 00:56:01,480 Speaker 1: I can just get more elsewhere. So I think you 1060 00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:03,799 Speaker 1: make some really interesting points about eight and there and 1061 00:56:03,880 --> 00:56:06,440 Speaker 1: just how he sort of relates to the state of 1062 00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:08,319 Speaker 1: the NBA overall that we will get back to in 1063 00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:11,279 Speaker 1: one second. But before we do that, just looking at 1064 00:56:11,360 --> 00:56:15,920 Speaker 1: Katie's path, if he were to end up in Phoenix, 1065 00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:18,440 Speaker 1: specifically right where they literally had the best record in 1066 00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:20,400 Speaker 1: league this past year, or even Miami where it's a 1067 00:56:20,440 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 1: reigning one seed, do you think there's an argument that 1068 00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:27,680 Speaker 1: he closes his path to being a top ten player 1069 00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:31,279 Speaker 1: of all time if his championship resume is joined a 1070 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,120 Speaker 1: seventy three and nine most talented team ever won A 1071 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:37,040 Speaker 1: couple of Rings there, tried to build a super team, 1072 00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:41,800 Speaker 1: failed miserably, then goes joins the best record in the NBA, 1073 00:56:41,840 --> 00:56:44,000 Speaker 1: even if they give up some talent to get him, 1074 00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:47,640 Speaker 1: Like how much stock could you put into Rings that 1075 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 1: he continues to win in that fashion compared to if 1076 00:56:50,840 --> 00:56:52,879 Speaker 1: he had actually had to fight an uphill battle from 1077 00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:54,799 Speaker 1: this point forward in Brooklyn, or if he goes to 1078 00:56:55,480 --> 00:56:57,960 Speaker 1: a Pelicans or Raptors, where yes he's asking out, but 1079 00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,000 Speaker 1: he's not going to teams that were at the apps 1080 00:57:00,000 --> 00:57:05,680 Speaker 1: loute top of the league this past year. So the 1081 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,040 Speaker 1: problem is is I think the damage is already done. 1082 00:57:09,360 --> 00:57:13,880 Speaker 1: But to Katie's credit, I really think he's come to 1083 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:16,120 Speaker 1: terms with that. Like I think he's at peace with it. 1084 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:19,480 Speaker 1: I think he knows that he'll never get the amount 1085 00:57:19,480 --> 00:57:23,360 Speaker 1: of credit he deserved in Golden State. I think he knows, 1086 00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,040 Speaker 1: And we did a whole I did a whole thing 1087 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: on this the other day. But like the the the 1088 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:31,400 Speaker 1: revision is history with those Warriors teams to where it's 1089 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:35,560 Speaker 1: because they won in this two season, all of a sudden, 1090 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: k D is being erased from the two thousand seventeen 1091 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:42,240 Speaker 1: two thousand eighteen seasons. I agreed with Raymond, Like I 1092 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:45,360 Speaker 1: think the Warriors losing two thousand and seventeen, if if 1093 00:57:45,400 --> 00:57:48,240 Speaker 1: the uh, if the Calves run it back and the 1094 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,840 Speaker 1: Warriors don't get k D. It's really the simple. Hey, 1095 00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: Warriors fans, did you guys think you were way better 1096 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:54,840 Speaker 1: than the Celtics because you won three games in a 1097 00:57:54,920 --> 00:57:58,680 Speaker 1: row at the end, Yeah, you probably do well. The 1098 00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:00,960 Speaker 1: Calves beat you three times in a row in two 1099 00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen. They kind of figured you out and to 1100 00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,840 Speaker 1: Draymond's credit, and I thought I thought Draymond was wrong 1101 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:08,440 Speaker 1: when he said that that that staff couldn't create a 1102 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:10,919 Speaker 1: shot back then. But he is right about the fact 1103 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:13,000 Speaker 1: that Steff has gotten a lot better. Stuff is the 1104 00:58:13,080 --> 00:58:15,200 Speaker 1: stuff is doing two teams what he did in two 1105 00:58:15,240 --> 00:58:18,440 Speaker 1: thousand sixteen, even though they're much better at defending him. Now, 1106 00:58:18,600 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: that's the credit to Steph as defensive. As defenses have evolved, 1107 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: he's evolved with them. As far as k D goes, though, 1108 00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: it's like, dude, there is no version of this story 1109 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 1: that ends with you not having those fair or unfair, 1110 00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:36,160 Speaker 1: those marks on your resume. So like my thing is, like, Dude, 1111 00:58:37,080 --> 00:58:39,680 Speaker 1: if you can't win the court of public opinion, win 1112 00:58:39,720 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 1: the trophies, because the trophies last forever. You know that 1113 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:47,080 Speaker 1: that they can't ever take those away from you. So 1114 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:51,360 Speaker 1: I would continue to pursue the best available basketball situation 1115 00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:55,520 Speaker 1: and say, screw the narratives, screw all the talking heads 1116 00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,360 Speaker 1: that are that are beating you down. The Warriors fans, 1117 00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:00,840 Speaker 1: They're never gonna like you the same way they used 1118 00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,520 Speaker 1: to ever again anyway, So who cares? You know, like, 1119 00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,000 Speaker 1: at this point, dude, control what you can control, which 1120 00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:07,840 Speaker 1: is what happens on the basketball court. Go out there 1121 00:59:07,880 --> 00:59:12,400 Speaker 1: and win all the trophies. Alright, We've got one last 1122 00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,520 Speaker 1: hypothetical Katie scenario for you, This one courtesy of Mike 1123 00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: h who says Katie liked his tame time in the 1124 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:22,200 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest when he was in Seattle. What are the 1125 00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,880 Speaker 1: odds he gets traded to Portland? And how good could 1126 00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:31,400 Speaker 1: they be? So the fit I love him and Dame, 1127 00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:36,360 Speaker 1: you know, I I like the direction Portland has been going, 1128 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: targeting wings. That Jeremy Grant fit is awesome. The problem is, 1129 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:43,600 Speaker 1: once again Portland's just will not be able to hang 1130 00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: in the UH in the actual bidding war that's about 1131 00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,480 Speaker 1: to take place, Like they just don't have any realistic 1132 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:55,439 Speaker 1: prospects that are going to like Anthony Simon's played really 1133 00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,160 Speaker 1: well last year, really started to blossom, but he just 1134 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:01,320 Speaker 1: signed that big deal, which I don't think he's gonna 1135 01:00:01,320 --> 01:00:02,920 Speaker 1: be able to be I don't even think he's legally 1136 01:00:02,920 --> 01:00:08,120 Speaker 1: allowed to be traded until this year's deadline. And most importantly, 1137 01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: if i'm Brooklyn Is, Anthony Simon's moving the needle for 1138 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: me now. And in terms of draft picks, they don't 1139 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,120 Speaker 1: have the same amount of picks that they can offer 1140 01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:17,240 Speaker 1: compared to some of these other teams in the league. Actually, Carson, 1141 01:00:17,240 --> 01:00:21,040 Speaker 1: I got one for you. Yeah, what it? What if 1142 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: the Boston Celtics traded every single pick they had and 1143 01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:34,960 Speaker 1: Jalen Brown for Kevin Durant. Wow. I I think that 1144 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:39,160 Speaker 1: that would be a win win, genuinely, right. I mean, 1145 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: why is it that one getting talked about more? That's 1146 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,600 Speaker 1: a good question. I think that Jalen may not be like, 1147 01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,760 Speaker 1: you know, number one guy building block, but he's very 1148 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: good number two guy building block. He's all star caliber 1149 01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:55,120 Speaker 1: player already, and you get the future draft assets, although 1150 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:59,520 Speaker 1: obviously those picks probably won't be great. But I think 1151 01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,520 Speaker 1: for Boss and it's a no Brainer. I mean, you're 1152 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:05,280 Speaker 1: giving up a current, you know, all star levels scoring 1153 01:01:05,320 --> 01:01:10,800 Speaker 1: wing for an all time great scoring wing. So that's interesting, 1154 01:01:10,880 --> 01:01:13,760 Speaker 1: that's very interesting. But but let's let's just let's frame 1155 01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:18,520 Speaker 1: it like this, that's a that's a package that probably 1156 01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:21,800 Speaker 1: won't get the deal done. That is way better than 1157 01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:24,440 Speaker 1: anything Portland's can offer. That is way better than anything 1158 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,520 Speaker 1: you know, these other teams that we've thrown out can offer. 1159 01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,840 Speaker 1: Like even to me, that's a better package than what 1160 01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,120 Speaker 1: Miami or Phoenix can offer. Like, if you're a GM, 1161 01:01:32,120 --> 01:01:34,720 Speaker 1: would you rather have Jalen Brown under team control for 1162 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:37,120 Speaker 1: with the long contract that's a Max or DeAndre Aton? 1163 01:01:37,600 --> 01:01:40,560 Speaker 1: I want Jalen Brown. Yeah, do you want Tyler Harrow 1164 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:43,840 Speaker 1: or do you want Jalen Brown? I want Jalen Brown. So, 1165 01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:46,680 Speaker 1: like to me, like, that's that's an example of like 1166 01:01:46,960 --> 01:01:50,880 Speaker 1: the way this like this bidding war should result in 1167 01:01:50,920 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 1: the largest return in the history of NBA trades. And 1168 01:01:54,720 --> 01:01:56,160 Speaker 1: so that's where we need to frame this, Like we 1169 01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,440 Speaker 1: just presented a trade of Jalen Brown in a ton 1170 01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,640 Speaker 1: of first round picks and that probably really doesn't get 1171 01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,680 Speaker 1: it done. That's the way that we gotta look at this, 1172 01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:05,880 Speaker 1: Like it's just that's why, that's why my brain keeps 1173 01:02:05,920 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 1: going to Toronto into New Orleans. Like if I'm Brooklyn 1174 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:11,920 Speaker 1: and I can get Zion Williamson in a bunch of picks, 1175 01:02:12,520 --> 01:02:15,680 Speaker 1: or I can get you know, uh, Scottie Barnes in 1176 01:02:15,720 --> 01:02:18,000 Speaker 1: a bunch of picks, that to me is gonna beat 1177 01:02:18,000 --> 01:02:20,920 Speaker 1: anything else because I'm getting a bona fide superstar prospect 1178 01:02:21,520 --> 01:02:24,720 Speaker 1: and I'm sending Katie to a good basketball situation, and 1179 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, it's just and to me. To me, those 1180 01:02:27,400 --> 01:02:30,000 Speaker 1: are the directions that I'd look over the course the 1181 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,480 Speaker 1: next couple of days. Al Right, guys, that is all 1182 01:02:32,520 --> 01:02:35,600 Speaker 1: we have for tonight. I'm headed down to Mexico with 1183 01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:38,520 Speaker 1: my wife for the next four days. But I'm bringing 1184 01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: all my stuff with me, so yeah, might as if 1185 01:02:41,960 --> 01:02:44,880 Speaker 1: anything crazy happens, you guys will get some sort of reaction. 1186 01:02:45,640 --> 01:02:48,000 Speaker 1: Uh As, I'm gonna finally get a chance to relax. 1187 01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:51,400 Speaker 1: It's been a wild couple of months with a whole 1188 01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:54,080 Speaker 1: lot of basketball, and I'm actually excited to take a 1189 01:02:54,080 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 1: little bit of a break that's set. Any big signings, 1190 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,920 Speaker 1: any big trades, any anything. I promise I will get 1191 01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:03,880 Speaker 1: at least something up on YouTube for you guys, um 1192 01:03:03,960 --> 01:03:06,000 Speaker 1: as there has always been the case. From the bottom 1193 01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,200 Speaker 1: of my heart, I sincerely appreciate you guys supporting us 1194 01:03:08,200 --> 01:03:10,360 Speaker 1: and supporting the show, and I'll see you guys in 1195 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:21,920 Speaker 1: a couple of days. The volume