Speaker 1: Why your headphones can be hacked and how to fix that,
Speaker 1: how to claim your twenty dollars credit for the Verizon outage.
Speaker 1: An app called are You Dead is going viral plus
Speaker 1: your tech cut questions answered. What's going on. I'm Richdmiro
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Speaker 1: You know I'm human and I'm not AI because I
Speaker 1: already screwed up in the beginning of the show, so
Speaker 1: you know I'm here, I'm live, I'm with you. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get through this together. We've got great guests this week.
Speaker 1: I'm getting so many questions about this one, the California
Speaker 1: Elite Request and opt Out platform. I've got Tom Kemp
Speaker 1: from the California Privacy Protection Agency to talk all about
Speaker 1: that and even if you don't live in California, it's
Speaker 1: still really interesting what the state is doing to help
Speaker 1: residents protect their privacy. It's a pretty interesting platform. Then
Speaker 1: we've got YouTuber kit Boga to talk about modern scams.
Speaker 1: Really interesting takeaways there about what you can do to
Speaker 1: protect yourself from scammers. We all need that advice. And
Speaker 1: then later on we've got Professor Tim Spector, one of
Speaker 1: my new favorites, co founder of this app called Zoe Health.
Speaker 1: He's going to talk all about how they're using AI
Speaker 1: and science to score the foods that you eat from
Speaker 1: one to one hundred. Yeah, that's kind of eye opening
Speaker 1: that app. If you haven't downloaded it yet, it's called
Speaker 1: Zoe Health. Welcome to the show. Very exciting. This week
Speaker 1: was all about getting back into the swing of things.
Speaker 1: Last week I was live from Las Vegas for CS.
Speaker 1: It always takes me a long time to recover from
Speaker 1: that show, not physically, not you know, I didn't get
Speaker 1: sick like a lot of people. I watched all my
Speaker 1: tech friends post on Instagram how they were sick after
Speaker 1: CS and I don't know what I do but maybe
Speaker 1: because I'm such a germaphobe, but I kind of did
Speaker 1: not get sick, which is a great thing, but it
Speaker 1: still just takes a lot because it's so much all
Speaker 1: at once. Like I'm going through my videos, I'm still
Speaker 1: posting them to my Instagram at rich on Tech, I'm
Speaker 1: still showing them on TV. You get a lot of content.
Speaker 1: And I realize by the way that if you are
Speaker 1: an up and coming tech person, like you want to
Speaker 1: do something on social media or whatever, literally just go
Speaker 1: to there's a tech show every week somewhere, just go
Speaker 1: to them and create content. I could literally do that
Speaker 1: for the rest of my life. Probably. There's so much
Speaker 1: on display at these shows. It's really a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I'll be able to do that.
Speaker 1: I can't go to every show, but there are so many.
Speaker 1: If you want, like a new career, you just want
Speaker 1: to be on social media doing videos and stuff in
Speaker 1: the tech world, that is a you could easily do it.
Speaker 1: You just have to figure out how to monetize, but
Speaker 1: I'm sure you could. This week, I did something a
Speaker 1: little interesting. I took my SIM card out of my
Speaker 1: iPhone and I put it back into an Android phone,
Speaker 1: specifically the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Ultra. Why did
Speaker 1: I do this? I don't know. I just like to
Speaker 1: challenge myself, and this was a challenge because number One,
Speaker 1: as soon as I start texting people, they say, what's
Speaker 1: up with a green bubble? Rich? And I'm like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a tech person. You know, I try different things,
Speaker 1: you know, I try to be dynamic in my life.
Speaker 1: And I'll tell you what happened. I was in Vegas.
Speaker 1: I used the Samsung almost exclusively, and I was like,
Speaker 1: this is pretty good. Like I forgot how much I
Speaker 1: like the different things you could do on Android. I said,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'm just going to go ahead and
Speaker 1: put my SIM card in there.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: When I say that, it's a virtual thing. So I
Speaker 1: will tell you I've tried to do this a couple
Speaker 1: times where it actually just my sim, my electronic SIM
Speaker 1: leaves one phone and it goes into never never Land
Speaker 1: and it never arrives on my new phone. So I've
Speaker 1: had this happen several times where I'm just without a
Speaker 1: phone line for like three or four days until I
Speaker 1: can walk into the store and literally ask for help.
Speaker 1: And so I really don't do this very often because
Speaker 1: that happens so many times to me in the past that.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, okay, But long story short, I really
Speaker 1: like the way you can customize an Android phone. You
Speaker 1: can make it the work the way you want it to.
Speaker 1: And I think Apple is caught up in a lot
Speaker 1: of ways with that stuff. But there's still some things
Speaker 1: about Android that just work better. And for me, it's like,
Speaker 1: if you are sort of a phone nerd and you
Speaker 1: want to do things exactly the way you want to
Speaker 1: do it, you can do that on Android. To me,
Speaker 1: the biggest gap is still voice search. Number one. You
Speaker 1: can easily search voice on Androids so much faster than
Speaker 1: on the iPhone and AI. Obviously we're gonna talk a
Speaker 1: lot about AI, but the iPhone, you know, that's a
Speaker 1: laggard in that area anyway. So I'm still trying to
Speaker 1: figure out this whole situation because now I don't have
Speaker 1: like a way to charge everything all at once, my
Speaker 1: watch doesn't really sync with the phone. A lot of
Speaker 1: things I used to do that were easy, just take
Speaker 1: a little extra time. I'm in steps, especially by the way,
Speaker 1: I will tell you, I do think that social media
Speaker 1: content creation and video is still better on the iPhone,
Speaker 1: Like hands down, I think that the Samsung does a
Speaker 1: great job, but so many apps are optimized for the
Speaker 1: iPhone that you're like, oh, I could do this on
Speaker 1: the iPhone, I can't do that on Samsung. Why not?
Speaker 1: Why not? Now, I will say, and I've talked about
Speaker 1: this before. This is why I like kind of independent
Speaker 1: third party apps that optimize for everything. But there are
Speaker 1: still apps that I have on the iPhone that I
Speaker 1: love that will not come to Android for some reason,
Speaker 1: and it really annoys me. What else I will keep
Speaker 1: you posted on this. I don't know how long this
Speaker 1: setup is going to last. I'm also not the typical
Speaker 1: phone person, like I will still have my iPhone in
Speaker 1: my backpack because I need it, and I will still
Speaker 1: be using it. But it's one of these things where
Speaker 1: I like to see how these different platforms work so
Speaker 1: that I can talk about them more easily on a
Speaker 1: show like this. So when you call in with your issues,
Speaker 1: you know you're trying to decide whether you should switch.
Speaker 1: I can give you a great opinion on that. Now
Speaker 1: let's talk.
Speaker 2: AI.
Speaker 1: I know you're gonna just turn off the radio, don't
Speaker 1: do it. Just hear me out, because this really affects anyone.
Speaker 1: This affects anyone who's using an iPhone or Android. So
Speaker 1: Apple this week effectively admitted that it really can't make
Speaker 1: its own AI fast enough, so it is going to
Speaker 1: use get this, Google's Gemini to make Siri smarter. They
Speaker 1: came out with this joint announcement. So I thought was
Speaker 1: kind of funny because it's only posted on Google's website,
Speaker 1: like Apple didn't post it on theirs. What I think
Speaker 1: is kind of funny. But basically Apple and Google have
Speaker 1: entered into this multi year collaboration where they are gonna
Speaker 1: make Siri smarter using Gemini under the hood. What does
Speaker 1: that mean. It means that Apple is saying, we can't
Speaker 1: figure this out on our own. Google has clearly figured
Speaker 1: this out. We're going to use their technology. Doesn't mean
Speaker 1: when you call up Siri it's gonna be Gemini. It's
Speaker 1: still gonna be Siri, but it's gonna be underlying powered
Speaker 1: by Gemini. What does that mean? Well, we got to
Speaker 1: bring you back to twenty twenty four WWDC. Apple introduced
Speaker 1: this thing called Apple Intelligence and they promised, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Sirih's gonna get so smart. Sirih's gonna understand your emails,
Speaker 1: your photos, your texts, and your notes, all while protecting
Speaker 1: your privacy. All this information on your phone, Siri will
Speaker 1: understand it and pull from that when you ask it
Speaker 1: a question. Fast forward two years, none of that has happened. Siri,
Speaker 1: in fact has gotten a little bit better, but nothing
Speaker 1: like what we're seeing with chatch Ebt and Gemini. So
Speaker 1: clearly it has turned out to be much harder than
Speaker 1: Apple expected to do this. So now they're gonna use
Speaker 1: Gemini as the brain for Siri. So Gemini is gonna
Speaker 1: work behind the scenes. You're still gonna use Siri, and
Speaker 1: Apple says all of their privacy protections will be in place.
Speaker 1: But this is a very practical move because Apple needs
Speaker 1: something that works right now. And hopefully these improvements will
Speaker 1: be on iPhones by the end of the year. And
Speaker 1: I think if they do come to the iPhone, it's
Speaker 1: going to be a big win because so many people
Speaker 1: have so much information stored on their iPhone. They want
Speaker 1: to be able to tap into that with Siri. Hey,
Speaker 1: sirih where'd I go on vacation last year? You know,
Speaker 1: pull up that calendar event for next week, or give
Speaker 1: me a little a dossier on this person I'm meeting
Speaker 1: with at this meeting, like what do I know about
Speaker 1: them from my past emails? It can pull all that stuff,
Speaker 1: or hey, something as simple as when's my flight next week?
Speaker 1: I mean, those are easy things. So hopefully that should happen.
Speaker 1: And again, Apple has promised this all going to be private,
Speaker 1: so a lot of this computing is going to happen
Speaker 1: on the iPhone itself, and if it can't, they're going
Speaker 1: to use what's called Apple's Private compute servers and they're
Speaker 1: going to use the information, send it there, and then
Speaker 1: as soon as it's all processed by AI, Apple deletes
Speaker 1: it after it's sent to your phone. So everything's really
Speaker 1: done in a private way. And I do believe that
Speaker 1: because I sat through meetings with Apple where they explain
Speaker 1: how that stuff worked and they took a lot of
Speaker 1: engineers to figure that out. Now, Google, this week, not
Speaker 1: to be outdone, made their own announcement called personalized Intelligence
Speaker 1: for Gemini. This is basically the same thing, but if
Speaker 1: you're a Google user, it will now let AI tap
Speaker 1: into your Gmail, your Google photos, your YouTube, your search
Speaker 1: history and more. I got access to this this morning,
Speaker 1: and it is quite wild. I asked it to tell
Speaker 1: me all about myself it gives you, like these little
Speaker 1: suggested questions to ask, and it is just insane. Gemini
Speaker 1: knows all about you. It can tell you where you've
Speaker 1: been on vacation, the type of car you drive. It
Speaker 1: can infer things about your career. It said, hey, one
Speaker 1: of the questions it suggested, It said, hey, if I'm
Speaker 1: not a tech reporter, what else would I be really
Speaker 1: good at? And it looked at all my emails and
Speaker 1: all my documents and all my photos and said, here
Speaker 1: are things that you like, and here are things we
Speaker 1: think you'd be good at. That's wild. So it's just
Speaker 1: it's it's the next level of AI being personalized to us.
Speaker 1: Now doesn't get everything right. It said, we know you're
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, so you'd like this. I said, well,
Speaker 1: that's really my son, and it Google said this in
Speaker 1: their announcement. We're not going to get everything right. Some
Speaker 1: things we're gonna get wrong. We're going to have further
Speaker 1: wrong things. So if it's wrong, just tell us, tell
Speaker 1: Gemini that it's wrong, and it will fix it for
Speaker 1: the next time. But the bigger picture here is that
Speaker 1: I know AI can feel a little bit strange and unsettling,
Speaker 1: and like where is this all going? But I think
Speaker 1: that when we get access to faster, more relevant answers
Speaker 1: without digging through years of emails and photos, having our
Speaker 1: information clearly synthesized by AI and easily accessible is game
Speaker 1: changing for all of us. Whether you're on iPhone, Android, Google, Apple, Siri,
Speaker 1: Open AI, with Chat, ebt, it is all happening, and
Speaker 1: I think it's really really useful. So look for that.
Speaker 1: Look for that on your phone. You'll get a pop up.
Speaker 1: It is opt in on the Google Gemini stuff. So
Speaker 1: if you get a pop up, you want to opt in,
Speaker 1: you want to try it out, go ahead and do that.
Speaker 1: If you don't, just don't opt into it. But I'm
Speaker 1: excited for it. Eight eight eight rich one O one
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Speaker 1: Coming up? Why is everyone posting about twenty sixteen on
Speaker 1: social media? I'll explain that and much more right here
Speaker 1: on rich on Tech. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich Demiro here hanging out with you in twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: Oh just kidding, But why is everyone posting about twenty sixteen? Like,
Speaker 1: think about in your head? Can you remember one thing
Speaker 1: about twenty sixteen?
Speaker 3: No?
Speaker 1: So, but everyone is hopping on this bandwagon. It's like
Speaker 1: a viral trend on social media. I guess it's been
Speaker 1: ten years since twenty sixteen. But it's not like that
Speaker 1: was like a great year that everyone's like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: twenty sixteen was so amazing. No, it's like there's nothing
Speaker 1: notable about twenty sixteen except it was ten years ago
Speaker 1: and now people are posting about it, like I don't know,
Speaker 1: Like I look through my pictures, I'm like, there was
Speaker 1: nothing special about twenty sixteen in my photos. But anyway,
Speaker 1: if you noticed, if you're scrolling through social media, everyone
Speaker 1: is posting about it, throwing putting these throwback pictures. For
Speaker 1: some reason, in the dog gear snapchat filter was popular.
Speaker 1: There were viral challenges back then. Closer by the Chainsmokers,
Speaker 1: I guess was a popular song back then. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously these things all start on TikTok and
Speaker 1: then they just kind of they trickled down into social media.
Speaker 1: So I have not posted about that yet. It's just
Speaker 1: too much work. Like I didn't feel like looking through
Speaker 1: my pictures of twenty sixteen to find like ten good ones,
Speaker 1: but I know everyone else has done it, so Anyway,
Speaker 1: if you're wondering why everyone's posting about twenty sixteen, it's
Speaker 1: just fun. That's what they're doing it for. There's no
Speaker 1: specific reason except the fact that people are just being
Speaker 1: nostalgic for a random year that was ten years ago.
Speaker 1: Let's go to Susan in San Jose. Susan, you're on
Speaker 1: with Rich.
Speaker 4: Hey, I remember you from your first day. You your
Speaker 4: personality and information is just fantastic. Your mother must be
Speaker 4: very very proud of you.
Speaker 1: Oh thank you. I need to ask her one day. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: she'd never tell me. Not kidding. What's up?
Speaker 4: I have an eighty eight year old friend hates his iPhone,
Speaker 4: would really like to go back to like a flip
Speaker 4: He just wants phone and text any suggestions on.
Speaker 1: A flip Yes, there is, so he doesn't. He doesn't
Speaker 1: want a standard smartphone.
Speaker 4: He hates it. He has one, He has a great iPhone,
Speaker 4: hates it.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, he's gonna go from an iPhone to a
Speaker 1: flip phone. Okay, Well, I mean I think the standard
Speaker 1: issue here is the Nokia twenty seven to eighty, which
Speaker 1: is about ninety dollars. It is unlocked, which means it's
Speaker 1: gonna work with T Mobile. It's gonna work with AT
Speaker 1: and T, it's gonna work with Verizon, it's gonna work
Speaker 1: with all those like you know, smaller Envy and O's
Speaker 1: mobile virtual network operators like a US Mobile or a
Speaker 1: Visible something like that. But this is just your standard
Speaker 1: flip phone. I mean, it's not gonna be anything special.
Speaker 1: It's just gonna have, you know, some of the modern amenities,
Speaker 1: Like it does have a USB C charge report, it
Speaker 1: does have Google Maps for navigation. Let's see what else.
Speaker 1: It's got the flashlight, it's got a little camera, it's
Speaker 1: got a a headphone jack. But I don't think it's
Speaker 1: the standard size. But you know, it's one of those
Speaker 1: things where it's just gonna be a flip phone. And
Speaker 1: if you want a phone that you can close when
Speaker 1: you're done talking, this is gonna be the other brand
Speaker 1: that people really like for these pretty inexpensive phones. If
Speaker 1: you go on Amazon, there's a ton of them, but
Speaker 1: the TCL they make a bunch of them. They've got
Speaker 1: a Flip three that's just fifty three dollars. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's not a bad deal. But the Nokia twenty seven
Speaker 1: to eighty flip is really the one I think that
Speaker 1: most people are getting, but there's so many of them.
Speaker 1: There's a website called Dumb Wireless. Dumb Dumbwireless dot com
Speaker 1: met with these two young founders of this website. They said,
Speaker 1: you know, we're just trying to make people less dependent
Speaker 1: on their phones. You know, we're so sick of everyone
Speaker 1: being on their phone all the time. And so they
Speaker 1: put this, put this website together with all of the
Speaker 1: current I guess you call them like light phones, or
Speaker 1: they call them dumb phones. But they've got a whole
Speaker 1: bunch of one here. So maybe your friend and wants
Speaker 1: something that's a little different. They've got Let's see, what
Speaker 1: are the other brands here, the AGM M nine, the
Speaker 1: jelly Star, they've got the Sunbeam, the Nokia that I mentioned.
Speaker 1: The Barbie Phone is on there. If your friend wants
Speaker 1: a Barbie phone. They've got the Punked. I like that one.
Speaker 1: The Punked p U n K T looks really cool,
Speaker 1: but it's so expensive. It's like three hundred dollars. And
Speaker 1: then remember this phone that we're gonna I think we
Speaker 1: talked about it last week, the clicks Communicator. This is
Speaker 1: the phone that looks like a BlackBerry, but it's more
Speaker 1: kind of intended to be a secondary phone or for
Speaker 1: people that don't want to be scrolling all day. So
Speaker 1: that's another option right there. So you got a lot
Speaker 1: of options, Susan, I think one of those is going
Speaker 1: to work for you for sure. Eight eight eight rich
Speaker 1: one O one eight eight eight seven four to two
Speaker 1: four one zero one. Uh did you speaking of phones?
Speaker 1: Were you affected by this Verizon outage? I was not,
Speaker 1: but I got a bunch of people said they were
Speaker 1: a bunch of family members. Seemed like it was concentrated
Speaker 1: on the East host. Happened a couple days ago, early January.
Speaker 1: I think it was the fourteenth. It lasted about ten hours,
Speaker 1: was resolved by the end of the day. And you know,
Speaker 1: they haven't said, as far as I can tell, what
Speaker 1: caused it, but usually it's like a software update. It
Speaker 1: was not a cybersecurity incident, but a lot of people
Speaker 1: were left without their phones, of Verizon customers, and so
Speaker 1: Verizon said in a tweet, we did not meet the
Speaker 1: standard of excellence. It's pretty rare that they do this.
Speaker 1: But this happened last year too. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you remember that it was a longer outage, for sure,
Speaker 1: but they gave customers that were affected a twenty dollars credit,
Speaker 1: but they did something that was a little bit like,
Speaker 1: come on Verizon. They didn't make it automatic. So if
Speaker 1: you were affected by this outage, you should get a
Speaker 1: text message that will tell you to open the my
Speaker 1: Verizon app and claim this twenty dollars credit. And I
Speaker 1: think it's one credit per account, not per line. And
Speaker 1: if you're a business customer, obviously the stakes are higher.
Speaker 1: Verizon's going to be getting in touch with you in
Speaker 1: a different way. So this is more for the consumer
Speaker 1: side of things. But we don't like outages. We rely
Speaker 1: on our phone so much. And Verizon is pretty solid.
Speaker 1: I mean, all the carriers have been pretty solid. But
Speaker 1: when these things happen, they really affect a large swath
Speaker 1: of not only people, but things because so many devices
Speaker 1: and cars and smart gadgets are dependent on these networks.
Speaker 1: But if you want that twenty dollars credit, watch for
Speaker 1: the text, go to the mina Verizon app and you should.
Speaker 1: You should have a little banner that says redeem this
Speaker 1: twenty dollars. It would have been nice if it was automatic,
Speaker 1: but think about it saves Verizon a lot of money
Speaker 1: for people that don't don't submit for the credit there
Speaker 1: all right, coming up, we're gonna talk about California's new
Speaker 1: privacy website. I'll tell you how you can get in
Speaker 1: on that. Eighty to eight rich one oh one. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out
Speaker 1: with you, talking technology triple eight rich one O one
Speaker 1: eight eight eight seven four to two four one zero one.
Speaker 1: Back to the phone lines in just a moment. But
Speaker 1: if there is one thing that has been light up
Speaker 1: my inbox lately, it is this question, how do I
Speaker 1: get my personal information off the Internet and out of
Speaker 1: the hands of data brokers? And specifically, if you live
Speaker 1: in California, there's a brand new free tool that says
Speaker 1: it will do just that. It's called Drop, Delete, Request
Speaker 1: and Opt Out Platform. Now I went through the process
Speaker 1: myself this week. You have to verify your residency, fill
Speaker 1: out some personal information, name, data, birth phone number, and
Speaker 1: then they will do the rest. And even if you're
Speaker 1: not in California, you'll probably want to listen to this
Speaker 1: because this is probably going to be replicated by other
Speaker 1: states or even the federal government. So recently I spoke
Speaker 1: with the executive director of the California Privacy Protection Agency,
Speaker 1: Tom Kemp, to explain all. All right, so this is
Speaker 1: such a big topic in our world today, privacy in general.
Speaker 1: You guys just recently launched this new website called DROP.
Speaker 1: You can tell me what that stands for and what
Speaker 1: it does. But many people, I don't think I've ever
Speaker 1: gotten so many emails about a new website in a
Speaker 1: very long time like this one. So people are very
Speaker 1: curious about what it is and what it does. Give
Speaker 1: me the high level kind of answer there, Well, that's
Speaker 1: exciting to hear.
Speaker 5: Yes, DROP stands for the Delete Request and Opt Out Platform.
Speaker 5: It's a free tool available from Calprivacy and what it
Speaker 5: does it allows Californians to go to our website, verify
Speaker 5: their residency, and make a request to have hundreds of
Speaker 5: data brokers delete all their personal information. So it's pretty
Speaker 5: amazing that it's basically a one click on stop ability
Speaker 5: to have your data deleted from hundreds of entities that
Speaker 5: basically just collect and sell your information behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Yes, to talk about that a little bit. I mean,
Speaker 1: people are sort of aware of this, but we don't
Speaker 1: really know where our information is going. But you're saying
Speaker 1: this stuff is just kind of passed among brokers all day,
Speaker 1: every day and sold as well.
Speaker 5: Absolutely. I mean, look, we're in a digital economy. Data
Speaker 5: is the new oil, and there are hundreds of businesses
Speaker 5: whose sole business model is to collect our information, our
Speaker 5: personal information like our email address, our phone numbers, our
Speaker 5: mailing address, even personal very sensitive personal information such as
Speaker 5: health information, what diseases you may have, what are your
Speaker 5: political interest et cetera. And what they do is they
Speaker 5: collect it, and they create digital dossiers on each and
Speaker 5: every one of us, and they sell it to anyone
Speaker 5: and everyone with a credit card. But unfortunately, what we're
Speaker 5: seeing right now is that bad guys are actually accessing
Speaker 5: that information and sending us the spam text targeted phone calls.
Speaker 5: And so what we've seen is this data broken bridge
Speaker 5: industry has led to a lot of identity SAFT, a
Speaker 5: lot of identity fraud, UH and other weaponization of our
Speaker 5: personal information.
Speaker 1: I went through it this morning. I signed up. I
Speaker 1: was able to verify you based have to verify that
Speaker 1: you're you live in California and you've got you know,
Speaker 1: a phone number and an email address. That's how I
Speaker 1: did it. That, I mean, I think that's one of
Speaker 1: the ways of doing it. And then you just put
Speaker 1: in your information. Now the thing that's interesting and you
Speaker 1: can explain to me, I you know, it asked be yours.
Speaker 1: You know, pretty basic info like your name, your age, data, birth,
Speaker 1: where you live. But then it asks for these identifiers,
Speaker 1: you know, things that identify your phone, your TV, and
Speaker 1: your car like your VIN number. So that was surprising
Speaker 1: to me that this goes that deep where these agencies are.
Speaker 1: I guess these these data companies use that to track
Speaker 1: us absolutely.
Speaker 5: Look, I mean there's different categories of data brokers. Probably
Speaker 5: the ones that we're most familiar with are the people
Speaker 5: search sites. So if you google your name, your address,
Speaker 5: or your phone number, or your email address or even
Speaker 5: your mailing aggress, all of a sudden you see yourself
Speaker 5: pop up on hundreds of websites. If you want to
Speaker 5: get removed from those people search sites, that's why you
Speaker 5: need to put in your zip code, your email address,
Speaker 5: and phone number. Now, it turns out that there are
Speaker 5: hundreds of companies that simply track your geolocation and they
Speaker 5: sell it. And so there is a mobile advertising ID
Speaker 5: that you can also enter the system that can facilitate
Speaker 5: deletions from those type of data brokers. And then finally, yes,
Speaker 5: there are people that track your cars and your purchases
Speaker 5: of your automobiles, et cetera. And so we also offer
Speaker 5: the ability to add your vent. Now, these are all
Speaker 5: optional information. If you simply just want to not have
Speaker 5: your phone number be sold by anyone, just put your
Speaker 5: phone number in. But we ask for the minimal amount
Speaker 5: of information to enable mass deletion of your personal information.
Speaker 5: With these businesses is that you don't have a direct
Speaker 5: relationship with Their business model is to sell your data.
Speaker 1: They don't sell you anything.
Speaker 5: They sell your data to other entities.
Speaker 1: So I think at last count I saw as over
Speaker 1: one hundred and thirty of these data brokers that you're
Speaker 1: working with. There's an option to include more as they're
Speaker 1: added to the list. When will people start seeing the
Speaker 1: results of this?
Speaker 5: Right now? The data brokers have to register with the state.
Speaker 5: Last year, over five hundred and forty five data brokers registered.
Speaker 5: They have the month of January to register, so that
Speaker 5: one hundred and thirty five hundred and forty number is
Speaker 5: what's currently in the system right now, But we expect
Speaker 5: by early February they'll be well over five hundred data brokers,
Speaker 5: so the deletions don't start kicking in to August, and
Speaker 5: that makes sense. We want the data brokers to register,
Speaker 5: we want them to test out the deletion mechanism, et cetera.
Speaker 5: So you're not going to see the full impact of
Speaker 5: the deletions until early fall. But it's it's good to
Speaker 5: get it out of the way. And the nice thing
Speaker 5: is you can go back to the system. If you
Speaker 5: add a new email address, a new phone number, you
Speaker 5: remember an old ZIP code that you lived in, etc.
Speaker 5: You going to go back and add to the system.
Speaker 5: But come this fall, the data brokers will have to
Speaker 5: access the system and they'll have to match the records
Speaker 5: and do deletions every forty five days. And it's a
Speaker 5: permanent deletion, so you don't have to go back and
Speaker 5: make requests of these data brokers. It's one and done.
Speaker 5: And if you want to exclude specific data brokers, you
Speaker 5: can do that, or the default is select all and
Speaker 5: you don't even have to think about it.
Speaker 1: Is there a penalty if you know, I put my
Speaker 1: information in there and I still get a call or
Speaker 1: the data broker doesn't take my information down.
Speaker 5: The fines that these entities could have would be two
Speaker 5: hundred dollars per record per day. So if you discover
Speaker 5: that you go to a people search site and your
Speaker 5: information is still there, but they reported back into the
Speaker 5: DROP system that the deleted it, but you've found it,
Speaker 5: or you report a complain to us, or we discovered
Speaker 5: this is not happening, it's two hundred dollars per day
Speaker 5: for your record. We're a dedicated independent agency and we're
Speaker 5: highly focused on ensuring that you and your fellow Californians
Speaker 5: are able to take control of your personal information and
Speaker 5: say no to the sale of your and my data
Speaker 5: without our input, and that's what we're trying to enable
Speaker 5: here with the DROP system. Do you suspect that other
Speaker 5: states will do this or the federal government will do this?
Speaker 5: And what's your advice for people that are listening that
Speaker 5: are in other states?
Speaker 1: What can they do?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 5: They can always move to California, that's one thing, and
Speaker 5: become a resident, but no, Look, it's funny that if
Speaker 5: you look at some of the social media message boards,
Speaker 5: they're lighting up and people are an other states really
Speaker 5: want this. This kind of shows the overall pain point
Speaker 5: that consumers are experiencing. So next Thanksgiving, when your out
Speaker 5: of town relatives come in and they start dissing California,
Speaker 5: just show them the DROP system and say we've got that.
Speaker 5: They don't so, and we're more unhappy to engage with
Speaker 5: legislators and other people in other states and tell them
Speaker 5: what we're doing right here. But yes, there's definitely California
Speaker 5: envy happening with the DROP system as we speak.
Speaker 1: I like that dig He's like, you know, people want
Speaker 1: California stuff. That was Tom Kemp from the California Privacy
Speaker 1: Protection Agency once again. The website. If you live in
Speaker 1: California want your information deleted from these data brokers, you
Speaker 1: can sign up now. It's Privacy dot Ca dot gov
Speaker 1: slash drop. So the website is the drop website delete.
Speaker 1: Let's see what is it called again? So why can't
Speaker 1: I remember this one? Drop? Drop? It is the delete
Speaker 1: request and opt out platform DROP. I'll put a link
Speaker 1: to that on my website. Rich on tech dot tv.
Speaker 1: Keep in mind you sign up now that actual cleanup
Speaker 1: doesn't start until later in the summer, And if you
Speaker 1: don't live in California, there are plenty of paid services
Speaker 1: that will do something similar. On the website rich on
Speaker 1: Tech dot TV. All right, let's get back to the
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Speaker 1: your calls right after this. Welcome back to rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology triple
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Speaker 1: on tech dot TV. You hear something, you need some
Speaker 1: more information, just go there. It's right at the top
Speaker 1: of the page. Actually it's not. It says radio show
Speaker 1: and it's episode one fifty seven. So you'll find links
Speaker 1: to everything I talk about right there. So, whether it
Speaker 1: is the flip phone I mentioned, the Verizon outage, that
Speaker 1: new California privacy website, it's all linked up right there.
Speaker 1: Let's go to let's go to Sylvia, line three in
Speaker 1: Marino Valley, California, Sylvia. You're on with rich Yeah.
Speaker 6: Hi, Rich, Hey, thank you for taking my call and
Speaker 6: appreciate you teaching my old brain all kinds of new stuff.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm happy to do that. What can I help
Speaker 1: you with?
Speaker 6: Yeah, So my question is I'm an Apple Watch versus
Speaker 6: a garment or a Galaxy I've been thinking about getting
Speaker 6: Apple Watch for emergency services, all detection, call detect, health info,
Speaker 6: you know, the large screen bright for the size of
Speaker 6: the watch. But I was leaning to Apple and then
Speaker 6: and a friend of mine said, no, you need to
Speaker 6: check out Garment. My niece has a Galaxy them she
Speaker 6: really loves, So can you help me out on that place?
Speaker 1: Sure, what kind of phone do you have?
Speaker 6: Apple?
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, then the Galaxy's out of the running here
Speaker 1: because Galaxy only works with Samsung, so that one's out
Speaker 1: of the window. So I would say, I mean, just
Speaker 1: right off the top of my head, unless you are
Speaker 1: an avid hiker or biker or outdoor enthusiasts, the garment
Speaker 1: is really more for those use cases. It's fantastic. People
Speaker 1: love them. I've not personally used one, but I know
Speaker 1: people that have them and they absolutely love them. But
Speaker 1: it is mostly the hikers, the bikers, you know, the
Speaker 1: just kicking always out. Yes, okay, now that's not saying
Speaker 1: the Apple Watch won't do that. The Apple Watch does
Speaker 1: all that stuff, and it does it very well. And
Speaker 1: I love the Apple Watch, even though I'm not wearing
Speaker 1: it right now, because if you heard me earlier, I've
Speaker 1: switched to Android right now, so we're in a pixel watch.
Speaker 1: But the Apple Watch is fantas And here's the deal.
Speaker 1: If you are looking for anything medical or fall related,
Speaker 1: this is the watch that you want. It's got great
Speaker 1: fall detection. It was the first to have it. It's
Speaker 1: got car crash detection on it. Although I will say
Speaker 1: when I had my car accident and I was hit hard,
Speaker 1: my Apple Watch did not call for help. It didn't
Speaker 1: even say anything, which I could not believe. Neither did
Speaker 1: my iPhone, which I also can't believe. But I've been
Speaker 1: playing football with my kid in the street and I'll,
Speaker 1: you know, catch a big throw and it will say, hey,
Speaker 1: just fall. It felt like you got hurt, and it's like, no,
Speaker 1: I'm okay. So I would say that's what you want.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: When it comes to which Apple Watch model to get
Speaker 1: if you want the most robust health tracking features, I
Speaker 1: think for you it comes down to two models, the
Speaker 1: Series eleven, which is the newest, and then the se three,
Speaker 1: which is kind of their budget but it's also new.
Speaker 1: These devices pretty much have a lot of the same things.
Speaker 1: The higher end one, which is the eleven, is going
Speaker 1: to give you hypertension notifications. It's going to give you
Speaker 1: the electro cardiographs if you need that, you can you
Speaker 1: can take like a heart reading. Let's see they do
Speaker 1: all the vitals the same. All the emergency stuff is
Speaker 1: the same. Let's see what else do you get. I'm
Speaker 1: trying to see things screen? Right, Yeah, you can get
Speaker 1: a large screen. There's there's different sizes and so they've
Speaker 1: got like, I think forty four millimeter. Let's see, there's
Speaker 1: like I think the largest size. Let's see what the
Speaker 1: size is here. Uh, there's a forty two and a
Speaker 1: forty six millimeter. So I would go with the forty
Speaker 1: six if you want like the largest screen possible. And
Speaker 1: then the other decision you have to make is do
Speaker 1: you want cellular so your phone your watch will work
Speaker 1: no matter what. The only difference is if you want cellular,
Speaker 1: it's going to cost you about one hundred dollars more,
Speaker 1: plus you have to pay monthly. The difference is if
Speaker 1: you walked out of the house without your phone. So
Speaker 1: let's say you went for a walk around your block
Speaker 1: or a walk in your neighborhood and you fell down
Speaker 1: and you couldn't get up right. Your Apple Watch would
Speaker 1: use cellular to call for help, or you could call
Speaker 1: for help if you didn't have cellular, your watch would
Speaker 1: not be able to do that because it needs the
Speaker 1: iPhone as the conduit to go through to make that call.
Speaker 1: Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: It does? It does.
Speaker 6: And I don't know what the radius would be if
Speaker 6: I'm out and about somewhere or home, and let's say
Speaker 6: I'm out in the backyard and I fall. These are
Speaker 6: the stories that I have heard from friends, you know,
Speaker 6: And I don't know how far of a distance it
Speaker 6: could pick up my cell phone service. So I definitely
Speaker 6: want a separate line. I would be willing to pay
Speaker 6: for that.
Speaker 1: And I think, yeah, I think that's a great decision.
Speaker 1: I would tell you in my experience around the house,
Speaker 1: the Apple Watch is really bad about connecting to the
Speaker 1: phone when it's not when it's even a little bit
Speaker 1: further away. So we're talking according to the you know
Speaker 1: the numbers, it's a it's just a couple dozen feet
Speaker 1: because it's bluetooth, right, So it's just the range of Bluetooth.
Speaker 1: Like if you ever had headphones you walk around, you know,
Speaker 1: sometimes they work depending on you know, what the interference
Speaker 1: is nearby, but you can't trust that and so for
Speaker 1: me personally, like I run a lot, I've always had
Speaker 1: a cellular connection on my watch because I love the
Speaker 1: idea that I can just go out and not have
Speaker 1: my phone on me and my watch will still protect
Speaker 1: me or help me if I need it. You know,
Speaker 1: I can still make a phone call. So that's what
Speaker 1: I would do. I think the decision's pretty easy when
Speaker 1: it comes to the SE which is the basic I
Speaker 1: would just look online on the Apple website. They've got
Speaker 1: kind of comparison tool which you can compare the series
Speaker 1: eleven to the SC three. The SE three has gotten
Speaker 1: a lot better. It does a lot. The Series eleven
Speaker 1: comes in a larger screen at this point, and it's
Speaker 1: easier to see from a variety of angles. It's also brighter.
Speaker 1: But you know, parents love the SE three for kids.
Speaker 1: Seniors also love the SC three because it's a little
Speaker 1: bit cheaper, it's a little bit easier.
Speaker 6: So but the eleven is I do know they have
Speaker 6: what an ultra or something? Is that what this is?
Speaker 6: The series eleven is that the top top end of
Speaker 6: the well.
Speaker 1: The ultra is a whole nother one, and I don't
Speaker 1: think you need it. I think that's more for someone
Speaker 1: who is out and about hiking and all that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. That's more. That's that's more their answer to
Speaker 1: the garment. I don't think you need that. It's got
Speaker 1: a longer battery life, but I think that I think
Speaker 1: for the series for you, I think the series eleven
Speaker 1: would probably be the sweet spot for for all the
Speaker 1: features you want.
Speaker 2: Eleven.
Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, that's that rich. Thank you so much. And
Speaker 6: I was literally on my phone, uh, comparing right as
Speaker 6: your show came on. So perfect timing. And I'm sure
Speaker 6: there's a lot of seniors listening to this and and
Speaker 6: very grateful, grateful for your knowledge. Much appreciated.
Speaker 1: Thank you, Sylvia, appreciate it, and good luck with the watch.
Speaker 1: I think you'll really enjoy it. I will tell you
Speaker 1: I am missing mine. I really am. I will say
Speaker 1: I've said this before on this show. I actually like
Speaker 1: at this point the Apple Watch more than the iPhone
Speaker 1: because the Apple Watch does everything that I want. I've
Speaker 1: got great apps on there. It does my hike tracking,
Speaker 1: it does my running tracking, I can listen to music
Speaker 1: without my phone. I mean, it just does so many
Speaker 1: things really well. And I think that and I have
Speaker 1: the Ultra and I think it just works really well,
Speaker 1: the software, everything, the hardware. H Okay, I'm switching back
Speaker 1: right now in the commercial break. No, I'm just kidding,
Speaker 1: but I'm wearing the pixel Watch, and I will tell
Speaker 1: you the one thing I love about the pixel Watch
Speaker 1: is the voice to text is unbelievable. Like I'm talking,
Speaker 1: it does not get things wrong. Ever. It also has
Speaker 1: Gemini on it, so you can ask questions on this
Speaker 1: watch that you'd never be able to ask Siri because
Speaker 1: she wouldn't understand them in a million years, and you
Speaker 1: can get an answer. Now are those two things worth
Speaker 1: you know? Switching? I don't know, but I do, I
Speaker 1: you know, And this is why I try different things,
Speaker 1: so that I can compare them and contrast them and
Speaker 1: tell you what the best option, what the high points are,
Speaker 1: the low points, the pros, the cons, all that good stuff.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm missing certain features for sure, but I'm
Speaker 1: loving others. Eighty eight rich one O one eight eight
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Speaker 1: selling your driver location data for a couple of years.
Speaker 1: That's right here. When rich On Tech returns, welcome back,
Speaker 1: to Rich on tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with
Speaker 1: you talking technology at Triple eight Rich one on one.
Speaker 1: That's eight eight eight seven four to two four one
Speaker 1: zero one. I've been saying those numbers for four years now. Yes,
Speaker 1: this is year number four of this show, if you
Speaker 1: can believe it. I love that. During Okay, last segment,
Speaker 1: I talked about how twenty sixteen, all these people are
Speaker 1: posting bobo. I guess I guess that was the first
Speaker 1: time you heard of it. He just went through his
Speaker 1: camera roll and posted like one hundred pictures from twenty sixteen.
Speaker 1: I'm going through his social media. I am laughing so hard.
Speaker 1: He's like, I'm saying, how like silly that is, And
Speaker 1: he's like, no, it's actually really fun. And so he
Speaker 1: had a lot of things happening in that year. Oh,
Speaker 1: it's way more. I just didn't post everything that.
Speaker 7: But you just did that. Yeah, just said you talked
Speaker 7: about it. Yeah I didn't. I noticed it, but I didn't.
Speaker 7: I didn't know it was a trendy thing to do. Okay,
Speaker 7: And I was like, oh, well, now let's you know, yeah,
Speaker 7: just talk about it. We had some great pictures that
Speaker 7: you posted. This new Google Gemini Personalized Intelligence, personal Intelligence.
Speaker 7: I asked it about my notable highlights in twenty sixteen,
Speaker 7: not very notable. I had a family Halloween. Told me
Speaker 7: my one kid was dressed as a skeleton, my other
Speaker 7: was Mickey Mouse. I went to a wedding in October,
Speaker 7: my cousin celebrated my birthday, wrapped up with the New
Speaker 7: Year's celebration in San Diego, went back to the East
Speaker 7: Coast to spend time with my siblings. Me and my
Speaker 7: wife went to a con sure at the Crypto dot
Speaker 7: Com Arena, which was Staple Center back then.
Speaker 1: You can't say that anymore. What good. It's still with
Speaker 1: the Crypto. The other place doesn't exist. They get so
Speaker 1: mad when you bring it up, do they really? I
Speaker 1: just thought it was wild that Staples, like the plasure
Speaker 1: you literally buy like Staples and paper clips, has enough
Speaker 1: money to buy you know, I had the name arena. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was that was big. I mean I
Speaker 1: was here when they built that. That's aging me a
Speaker 1: little bit, dating me. All right, let's go to be
Speaker 1: here a long time. Forty two years. I've probably been
Speaker 1: in La for I got to add it up probably
Speaker 1: twenty five years. Wow. Yeah, it's been a while. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's been a while. Yeah, but I off and on
Speaker 1: because I left, you know, so I got to add
Speaker 1: it up. But I left. Every time I left for
Speaker 1: like something, I would come back in between. I don't
Speaker 1: know why.
Speaker 7: You know, it popped up in my feet the other
Speaker 7: like literally a day or two ago.
Speaker 1: The picture you on Price is right? Oh, when you
Speaker 1: had the loan Surfer hit. That was a long time
Speaker 1: ago that I will tell you. Being on Price is right.
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously that was really fun back in the day.
Speaker 1: It's funny. My kid loves to watch it. But your
Speaker 1: brain goes to mush. My brain was jello. When Bob Barker,
Speaker 1: that's seat dating myself again. When Bob Barker, when I
Speaker 1: mean he didn't call me down Rod Roddy did. But
Speaker 1: when Bob Barker, you know, said okay, next time I'm
Speaker 1: up for bid, and he said, what's your bid, mister
Speaker 1: DeMuro whatever he said, and I'm not kidding, I could
Speaker 1: not think. There was no brain activity in my head
Speaker 1: at all. I was just like, what is happening right now?
Speaker 1: And I screamed out. The first thing I heard from
Speaker 1: the audience, which was seven hundred dollars for a sewing machine.
Speaker 1: I had no idea how much a sewing machine was.
Speaker 1: Definitely wasn't seven hundred. All right, let's go to h
Speaker 1: Let's go to Walter. Line three. You're on in a
Speaker 1: Temecula Walter. You're on with Rich? Hey, Rich?
Speaker 2: How you doing?
Speaker 8: I'm doing shows content always love it good.
Speaker 1: I'm glad. I'm glad. All my hard work is paying off.
Speaker 1: Thank you?
Speaker 8: Oh man, it is. So here's my question. I currently
Speaker 8: have an HP printer, but I feel that I keep
Speaker 8: buying cartridges all the time, and man, I'm not printing
Speaker 8: that much stuff. And this is just for home use,
Speaker 8: not every day printing. So do you have do you
Speaker 8: recommend any certain printer there'll be more pocket friendly on
Speaker 8: the cartridge side. That'll have to be changing these cartridges
Speaker 8: all the time because then they could get pretty pricey.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And it feels like there's a leak sometimes.
Speaker 1: Like I remember when I was using cartridges, I'm like, wait,
Speaker 1: I just replaced this, what is happening? And then it
Speaker 1: would just it just felt like I was spending so
Speaker 1: much on these cartridges, and I you know, I didn't
Speaker 1: really print a lot either. I mean the kids will
Speaker 1: print like color stuff all the time, but like for me,
Speaker 1: I'm mostly printing stuff for this show. I will tell
Speaker 1: you the two printers that I've been testing lately that
Speaker 1: I will tell you I like them both. They're the
Speaker 1: ink tank printers, so you've actually filled them up with
Speaker 1: the liquid ink, which I know sounds messy, but it's
Speaker 1: actually quite an easy process. And I have been using
Speaker 1: both of these probably for the better part of months now,
Speaker 1: and the ink lasts a really long time. It seems
Speaker 1: to be cheaper, and it just seems to be like
Speaker 1: you're more in control with this liquid ink than you
Speaker 1: are with these cartridges that are like I don't know
Speaker 1: if they're printing them or making them out of gold,
Speaker 1: but why are printer ink cartridges so expensive? And then
Speaker 1: if you try to use one that's not the brand,
Speaker 1: your machine is gonna yell at you. It's gonna say, oh, oh, oh,
Speaker 1: you want to put that in here? Oh, just hope
Speaker 1: you don't like warranties. It's like, okay, okay, it's like,
Speaker 1: calm down, little machine. So I will tell you the
Speaker 1: two that I've been testing. Number one is called the
Speaker 1: HP Smart Tank fifty one hundred and I didn't think
Speaker 1: I was gonna like this one. I don't even want
Speaker 1: to be like hateful towards HP, but I was kind
Speaker 1: of like, ah, it's HP. I just switched from their
Speaker 1: printer with all their you know, the cartridges that were
Speaker 1: so expensive, and I was on the subscription program and
Speaker 1: I won't even tell you what I did there that
Speaker 1: was really dumb. But if you need some cartridges for
Speaker 1: this machine, I might have them at home. Anyway. This
Speaker 1: ink tank, the fifty one hundred, has been great. I
Speaker 1: love the way it prints. I will say. The only
Speaker 1: thing I don't like about it is the fact that
Speaker 1: the paper is kind of on top. It's like a
Speaker 1: top feeder, which I don't like. I wish it was
Speaker 1: like the on the bottom. And then the other thing
Speaker 1: I don't like is it takes a little bit to
Speaker 1: start up, like just when you first print for the day.
Speaker 1: It takes a little bit to go through some sort
Speaker 1: of routine to print. So that's it. But otherwise I
Speaker 1: really like that and the ink glass fair. The other
Speaker 1: one I like is the Epsen. I know you've heard
Speaker 1: these advertised the Eco tank. The one that I'm testing
Speaker 1: specifically is the ET twenty nine eighty and I think
Speaker 1: that that one's good. It's an all in one. You
Speaker 1: may not need all of that stuff, but this one
Speaker 1: prints really fast. I've had zero problems with it. I
Speaker 1: will say the quality of the print that comes out
Speaker 1: is slightly better on the HP for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: But I will tell you I like both of these equally.
Speaker 1: I like the software a lot on the epsin the screen,
Speaker 1: the little like screen that's on it is tough to see,
Speaker 1: but it's not a deal breaker. But I like the
Speaker 1: software that comes with it, like the app and that stuff.
Speaker 1: But those are two solid choices. Go with the ink tank,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that these are just easier to
Speaker 1: use instead of the cartridges. The cartridges are just it's
Speaker 1: the razor principle.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: You go to Best Buy. You see the stacked up
Speaker 1: to the ceiling on thousands of these printers are fifty dollars.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh cool, I need a new printer. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not thinking about how much the cartridges cost when
Speaker 1: you have to replace them. And so my rule of
Speaker 1: thumb is, if you're buying a printer, take the extra
Speaker 1: ten seconds to figure out how much these cartridges are
Speaker 1: going to cost you after you buy that printer, because
Speaker 1: there are so many of them out there. And again
Speaker 1: it's the razor you're buying. The blades, they're not they're
Speaker 1: not making money on the handle. They're not making money
Speaker 1: on the printer itself. Somehow they're making money on the
Speaker 1: blades and the blades are those cartridges? Great question, Walter
Speaker 1: in Temecula, Thanks for the call today. Let's see here,
Speaker 1: let's go to Let's see Thurman has been waiting patiently
Speaker 1: in Massachusetts. Thurman, you're on with Rich yes An the
Speaker 1: you know what, people listen at all different times, So
Speaker 1: unless you're live, who who, it doesn't even matter. I'm
Speaker 1: live you are, but you know someone may be listening tomorrow,
Speaker 1: so who knows.
Speaker 3: Well. You mentioned a while back the Google Photos magic eraser,
Speaker 3: and I that was great, except that a lot of
Speaker 3: time I've moved a lot of pictures over to my PC,
Speaker 3: uh and they're no longer on the iPhone. So I
Speaker 3: was looking for a photo editor that would work on
Speaker 3: under a Windows PC and I just couldn't find one.
Speaker 3: You can do manual erasing, but that magic eraser, where
Speaker 3: that's you know, outlines of a person that you want
Speaker 3: to get rid of I can't find an app that
Speaker 3: does that on a PC.
Speaker 1: You don't need an app, you just need Gemini. It's
Speaker 1: built in, so you can. You can go to Gemini
Speaker 1: dot Google dot com and or you know, I mean,
Speaker 1: does Google Photos not have it built in on the website.
Speaker 3: No, it doesn't. It doesn't doesn't. It doesn't work on
Speaker 3: a PC.
Speaker 1: Just interesting, Yeah, I guess it doesn't. I'm looking here.
Speaker 1: It doesn't have it there. I think the easiest thing
Speaker 1: to do is go to Gemini dot Google dot com
Speaker 1: and you can try this. Just just take a picture
Speaker 1: and drag it in there and just say remove whatever
Speaker 1: you want, the person, the object, whatever you need changed.
Speaker 1: It will change it and it will keep it the
Speaker 1: rest of the picture intact. And so it's it's really good.
Speaker 1: It's basically using the same exact technology. I actually think
Speaker 1: in some ways this is better. But that's an easy
Speaker 1: way to do it. There's some other there's some other
Speaker 1: like Canva can do this, like Canva can can take
Speaker 1: things out. I'm not sure, lough. I have a paid
Speaker 1: Canva account, so I'm not sure how much they give
Speaker 1: you for free on that. But you can go into
Speaker 1: Canva and they have some good editing tools. Let's see.
Speaker 1: I also have hang on, I've got I'm looking through
Speaker 1: my I'm looking through my bookmarks. Here, I've got a
Speaker 1: whole bunch of bookmarks for photography. Let's see, like web
Speaker 1: based photo editor. The problem is I went through and okay,
Speaker 1: here's one. There's one called okay this, try this one
Speaker 1: clean up dot pictures. So clean up dot pictures. That's
Speaker 1: a website. You can drag a photo in there and
Speaker 1: it will remove things. It's got like a little eraser
Speaker 1: that you can move remove things from there. But I
Speaker 1: think the best is really Gemini. It's so good, it's
Speaker 1: so fast, and I just stopped using anything else because
Speaker 1: it's just so good. But that's an easy one to do,
Speaker 1: and I think they give view at least a free level.
Speaker 1: I think you could do like ten edits for free
Speaker 1: or something like that. It just sort of depends. But
Speaker 1: are you just removing a lot of people from your
Speaker 1: pictures or what?
Speaker 3: Well, you know, average say somebody's they're about usually five
Speaker 3: people standing in front of the room on cathedral. I
Speaker 3: just don't need.
Speaker 1: Okay, so you're getting like other people? Oh it can
Speaker 1: it can easily do that too. Yeah. The other one,
Speaker 1: the other one that people don't really talk about is
Speaker 1: let's see what the website is for this, But it's
Speaker 1: Adobe Express and they've got Adobe Express. You know, a
Speaker 1: Canva has really taken over the world with all these
Speaker 1: editing programs and things. But like Adobe has a free
Speaker 1: level of what's called Adobe Express and they let you
Speaker 1: do a lot of stuff in there too. And Adobe
Speaker 1: obviously is a very smart company when it comes to
Speaker 1: all this stuff, like they've been doing photo editing forever,
Speaker 1: so they have some really good tools there. So I'll
Speaker 1: link that up on the website as well. That's Adobe
Speaker 1: dot com slash Express. But really I think the easiest
Speaker 1: way to remove someone or an object or anything or
Speaker 1: modify picture at this point is Gemini dot Google dot com.
Speaker 1: But Thurman, I will link up all those resources that
Speaker 1: I just mentioned. All right, coming up, I will tell
Speaker 1: you why the FTC is banning GM from selling your
Speaker 1: driver data plus more of your calls at eighty eight
Speaker 1: rich one oh one. This is rich On Tech. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to rich On Tech. Eighty eight rich one oh
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight seven four to two four one
Speaker 1: zero one. So the FTC is banning General motors from
Speaker 1: selling drivers location and behavior data for five years. This
Speaker 1: is because apparently they're subsidiary on Star, which you know,
Speaker 1: is built into a lot of GM cars, collected precise
Speaker 1: location data every few seconds without clear customer consent. The
Speaker 1: data was sold to third parties, including consumer reporting agencies.
Speaker 1: That means insurance companies got a hold of it, and
Speaker 1: for some people it allegedly led to higher insurance rates
Speaker 1: or even denied coverage. Can you imagine that happening. You're like,
Speaker 1: what's going on my insurance? Why does it keep going up? Oh?
Speaker 1: I'm a horrible driver. So now GM must get permission
Speaker 1: before collecting or sharing driver data, and drivers have to
Speaker 1: be able to see, delete, and opt out of that collection.
Speaker 1: They'll also have the ability to turn off precise location tracking.
Speaker 1: This is one of those things that you kind of
Speaker 1: know your car's doing spying on you, but you didn't
Speaker 1: really know until you see a lawsuit like this or whatever.
Speaker 1: This is a settlement come out. But anyway, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: wonder why they love building on Star into so many cars,
Speaker 1: probably making them a lot of money on the back end.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Cheryl in Calabasas. Cheryl hold
Speaker 1: on before we go to Cheryl, hang on, how do
Speaker 1: I put Cheryl back on hold? I got one quick
Speaker 1: comment here from Alex. I just want to bring them on.
Speaker 1: Let's see, can I just do that? Alex? You there?
Speaker 1: Oh no, now I dropped Eryl. Whoops. Okay, and I
Speaker 1: don't hear Alex at all. Alex A you there? No, yes,
Speaker 1: there you are pay well. You have a quick comment
Speaker 1: about the printer situation.
Speaker 9: Yeah, this is something I suggest to a lot of
Speaker 9: at least my friends. If you guys are if somebody's
Speaker 9: at home just printing black and white, you know, text documents,
Speaker 9: paperwork like that. I think laser jet printers are super awesome.
Speaker 9: We have a brother printer. I just use generic laser
Speaker 9: jet cartridges just for printing black and white fixtures. If
Speaker 9: you're printing color, whole another story. What you suggest is
Speaker 9: probably the best way. But for just black and white,
Speaker 9: laser jet I think is the way to go.
Speaker 1: You raise a great point, Alex. This is what I had.
Speaker 1: I had the Brother, the cheap o brother one. It
Speaker 1: was like, I mean, I can give you the number
Speaker 1: I'm seeing on Amazon, but I had one for like
Speaker 1: ten years. It's the Brother hl L two four zero
Speaker 1: five W and it's just a simple compact black and
Speaker 1: white printer. This thing was a workhorse in my house
Speaker 1: for like ten years. I loved it. The cartridges were
Speaker 1: not even that expensive. I think I bought Imitator ones
Speaker 1: and my kids bugged me. They said, why don't we
Speaker 1: have a color printer? I said, because have you seen
Speaker 1: the ink prices? Do you want to go to college?
Speaker 1: I'm not, you know? And so it is. This is
Speaker 1: great and I agree. Thank you for reminding I didn't.
Speaker 1: I didn't know with the with the caller like what
Speaker 1: they wanted, but since they were talking about cartridges, I
Speaker 1: assume they wanted color. But I will remember for next
Speaker 1: time to always recommend this, because yes, you're right. If
Speaker 1: you don't need the color, just go out the black
Speaker 1: and white printer from brother.
Speaker 6: Awesome.
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, Alex, thanks for chiming in with that. Well,
Speaker 1: we lost our other caller, so Kenneth, you missed that.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go to Let's go to Dale in Ontario. Dale.
Speaker 1: You're on with Rich?
Speaker 10: Hey, Rich, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what's up?
Speaker 10: I am? This is a location sharing question. I have
Speaker 10: Android at Galaxy S twenty four Ultra, which I love,
Speaker 10: and I'm using find hub to share my location with
Speaker 10: my brother. Okay my brother. My brother has an Apple
Speaker 10: has an iPhone.
Speaker 1: Well, you can't expect those to work nicely, come on,
Speaker 1: I know, I know.
Speaker 10: That's my question is is that is there an app
Speaker 10: or I mean it's something that we we only do it,
Speaker 10: we only use it every now and then. But is
Speaker 10: there like an app that's free that interer platform?
Speaker 1: Yes, there is, so if you're on the iPhone. Obviously
Speaker 1: everyone's using find my on the iPhone. I didn't know,
Speaker 1: so I know I know about the find what's it?
Speaker 1: What's it called the find app? Right on?
Speaker 10: Ah, well, it's it's fine Hub. It came installed on
Speaker 10: the phone.
Speaker 1: Okay, so that's a Samsung specific app, right.
Speaker 10: I suppose I have no idea.
Speaker 1: This is oh interesting. This is Google Okay, So this
Speaker 1: is Google's app. Okay, So here's what i'd recommend. You know,
Speaker 1: there's so many platforms for sharing location. I think that
Speaker 1: Life three sixty is actually the best when it comes
Speaker 1: to sharing location cross platform Life three sixty, I think
Speaker 1: you know their whole thing, and it's the basis free.
Speaker 1: You don't get you know, if you're just not doing
Speaker 1: a membership plan. They give you basically what you need
Speaker 1: just to see where your other friend is, your family member,
Speaker 1: And I think that's probably the best way to do it.
Speaker 1: Are you using the phone for the location or a
Speaker 1: device the phone? Okay, so that's probably the I think
Speaker 1: that's the easiest way. Is just you could both download
Speaker 1: Life three sixty, sign up for a sign up for that,
Speaker 1: and you can you know, again, it works on iPhone,
Speaker 1: works on Android. That's probably going to be your easiest
Speaker 1: There might be some other ways to do it out there,
Speaker 1: but I just like that because it's clean and that
Speaker 1: is the purpose of that app, and you have clear
Speaker 1: kind of understanding of when it's sharing when it's not
Speaker 1: sharing what you're doing. That's probably the easiest way to
Speaker 1: do it.
Speaker 10: Dale sounds good. Is it free?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 1: It is free at the basis free. Like you can
Speaker 1: you can easily see where people are on the map
Speaker 1: for free. There are obviously paid accounts that do more
Speaker 1: like location history alerts when someone arrives or leaves the location.
Speaker 1: But if you just want to see where that other
Speaker 1: person is on a map and you want to share
Speaker 1: that information, Life three sixty is a great way to
Speaker 1: do that cross platform.
Speaker 10: So you are a lifesaver. Thank you so much for
Speaker 10: your help.
Speaker 1: All right, let me know how it works out a
Speaker 1: Dale and ocean side. I think I said Ontario for
Speaker 1: some reason. Alex was in Ontario. Dale is an ocean side. Uh,
Speaker 1: and now we know and we hung up on Cheryl,
Speaker 1: you did, don't say we I did? Sorry, Cheryl, four
Speaker 1: years in, still learning this system.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 1: Coming up, we're gonna talk scams with the YouTuber Kip Boga.
Speaker 1: Scams coming up next. Welcome back to Rich on tech
Speaker 1: Rich DeMuro here hanging out with you, talking technology at
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Speaker 1: Give me a call, all right. My next guest is
Speaker 1: kit Boga. He is very famous for his YouTube videos
Speaker 1: baically wasting time of scammers. You know, there's so many
Speaker 1: scams out there, and there's a there's this kind of
Speaker 1: almost a cottage industry of people who fight back by
Speaker 1: just wasting the time of these scammers. And then turning
Speaker 1: it into like entertaining videos. Uh kiit poga. Thanks so
Speaker 1: much for joining me.
Speaker 11: Yeah, I'm glad to be here.
Speaker 1: So how did you guts start it in this?
Speaker 5: What?
Speaker 1: What was kind of the why did you start doing this?
Speaker 2: Yeah?
Speaker 11: Well, I'm a software engineer, and eight years ago I
Speaker 11: heard about the tech support scam, the guys who pretend
Speaker 11: to be Microsoft and say that there's hackers onder your computer.
Speaker 11: Are you familiar with that?
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, and it's still going on.
Speaker 11: Yes, yes, So I heard about that, and I figured
Speaker 11: if I have never heard of this scam, I'm a
Speaker 11: millennial on the internet all day long, then surely my
Speaker 11: grandparents hadn't heard of it. My mom wouldn't know about it.
Speaker 11: And it kind of hit me in that moment that
Speaker 11: if my grandma or grandpa, who had dementia and Alzheimer's,
Speaker 11: would get a call from someone saying that there were
Speaker 11: hackers on their computer, that they would fall for it.
Speaker 11: And I got this sort of spark of an idea,
Speaker 11: which was if I could spend twenty three minutes on
Speaker 11: the phone with the scammer, that was twenty minutes that
Speaker 11: they weren't talking to someone's grandma and it all blew
Speaker 11: up from there.
Speaker 1: That's wild. I was talking to a colleague the other
Speaker 1: day and he said he almost got scammed with this,
Speaker 1: Like they texted him a code to his Google account
Speaker 1: and then they called him and they said, hey, we
Speaker 1: need you to give me the code, and he kind
Speaker 1: of figured it out a little bit into it, but
Speaker 1: you know, obviously didn't want to lose his account, so
Speaker 1: we At first he didn't know, but when he realized
Speaker 1: he was onto the scam, he said, my goal was
Speaker 1: just to waste their time, and so he took like
Speaker 1: thirty to forty five seconds between each answer when they
Speaker 1: would ask him a question, and the person got so
Speaker 1: frustrated by the end they yelled some swear words at
Speaker 1: him and hung up. Yeah, anyway, so this kind of
Speaker 1: stuff happens. What do you feel like is the current
Speaker 1: state of scams today? People do fall for this stuff.
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, at an alarming rate, and I think
Speaker 11: it's getting even worse than when I started. And part
Speaker 11: of it is because there you have crime syndicates, organized crime.
Speaker 11: You have it's not just a couple guys in a
Speaker 11: call center or a couple of guys in their house anymore.
Speaker 11: Going after a five hundred dollars gift card I have.
Speaker 11: There there are scammers going after people's four one K.
Speaker 11: There are scammers going after not five hundred dollars, but
Speaker 11: five hundred thousand dollars. I have a lot of friends
Speaker 11: in law enforcement who say that there are like Artels,
Speaker 11: people who used to run drugs, saying, actually, we should
Speaker 11: get in the scam business. It's it's a lot easier
Speaker 11: and we make a lot more money that way. So
Speaker 11: I think I think that's a huge part of the problem.
Speaker 1: And do you think people are ever recovering this money?
Speaker 1: Like once it's gone, If you send money to someone
Speaker 1: that says, hey, send us one hundred thousand dollars, we're
Speaker 1: gonna We're going to refund you the fifty thousand, but
Speaker 1: there's some issues with our accounts and I can't do
Speaker 1: that right now, and I have to wait. Will people
Speaker 1: ever see their money?
Speaker 11: No, it's no. I think it's best to say no.
Speaker 11: There's I think you're describing what I refer to the
Speaker 11: recovery scam, which is maybe really important to talk about.
Speaker 11: But after someone has been scammed, they're often targeted again
Speaker 11: by either the same group of scammers or another group
Speaker 11: that are going to say I'm here with the government
Speaker 11: or I'm an expert cyber criminal or cyber infrasecurity person
Speaker 11: who will get all your money back.
Speaker 1: And it was just not the case. So there's one
Speaker 1: two punch. Yes, it's so sad. So tell me some
Speaker 1: of these scams I mentioned one. You called it the
Speaker 1: recovery scam. Explain that briefly, like, what are you seeing
Speaker 1: out there so people understand.
Speaker 11: Yeah, the recovery is pretty big. The general concept is
Speaker 11: if you post online, in particular saying that you got scammed,
Speaker 11: maybe on Facebook, somewhere on social media, there will be
Speaker 11: scammers who immediately start messaging you or calling you saying
Speaker 11: that they can get your money back. They'll say that
Speaker 11: they're with the government, police, or maybe that there's some
Speaker 11: kind of hacker that can hack the criminals. But it
Speaker 11: is a lie, and it's it's almost all automated. The
Speaker 11: second they see you post on your social media account
Speaker 11: that you got scammed, they're going to immediately send you
Speaker 11: messages saying that they can help you, but they it's
Speaker 11: just scammers. They cannot help you. Another big one I
Speaker 11: see would be investment scams, you know, and it's not
Speaker 11: just like the Ponzi schemes and things of the past,
Speaker 11: but some of these are really elaborate sounding AI technology.
Speaker 11: We can if you put in ten thousand dollars, you're
Speaker 11: going to be able to guarantee a thirty percent return
Speaker 11: year over year and things like that. But it's it
Speaker 11: just immediately gets sucked away by criminal organizations and you
Speaker 11: will never get it back. I would say the third
Speaker 11: big one is tech support related scams. There are still,
Speaker 11: like you said, there's still people every single day, calling, texting,
Speaker 11: emailing that say there's hackers on your computer or that
Speaker 11: there was a charge placed on your bank by by
Speaker 11: someone who's stole on your identity, and they will want
Speaker 11: to try to connect to your computer or your device
Speaker 11: to steal all of your money and to steal your
Speaker 11: whole life. It's it's devastating.
Speaker 1: Now you went so far as to start a software company,
Speaker 1: Sarafsecure dot com, which basically helps people protect themselves, because
Speaker 1: you said, like, and this happens all the time. It's
Speaker 1: remote access to your computer. People email me all the
Speaker 1: time and say, yeah, they made me download this program
Speaker 1: so they can look at something on my computer. So
Speaker 1: you created a software program that actually at its base
Speaker 1: will deny those remote connections. And then it also goes
Speaker 1: further explain what sarah secure is all about.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so that was the number one email that I
Speaker 11: got as well, Fuck, someone has connected to my computer
Speaker 11: or my my family's computer. I don't know what to do.
Speaker 11: And when the scammer connects, even if you hang up
Speaker 11: the phone on them, even like even if you didn't
Speaker 11: give them money and you realized it was a scam,
Speaker 11: they have full access to your computer. They can see
Speaker 11: your webcam, your files, your emails. If you've logged into
Speaker 11: your bank now they can control your bank, they can
Speaker 11: see your passwords. Right, our whole lives are on our computer.
Speaker 11: So scammers aggressively try to gain access to your computer.
Speaker 11: What sarah secure does is it's a free tool to
Speaker 11: remove all of those connections from someone's computer and block them.
Speaker 11: It just was such a devastating problem. Again, I have
Speaker 11: millions of people on YouTube that are commenting, and that
Speaker 11: was the biggest thing we saw, and so we said, well,
Speaker 11: let's solve it. Let's make it harder for stammers to
Speaker 11: be able to attack people this way.
Speaker 1: Can a kid install it on their parents' computer? And
Speaker 1: lock it down so they can't change it. I mean,
Speaker 1: I hate it sounds sad to have to do that,
Speaker 1: but it's like people need to know that.
Speaker 11: Yeah, so we do have a like a family plan
Speaker 11: that's sort of like that the way, so we built
Speaker 11: it with my parents in mind or my grandparents in mind.
Speaker 11: So one way that you could do it is set
Speaker 11: it up and install it on a family member's computer
Speaker 11: with their consent, and then get text alerts or email
Speaker 11: messages when when it looks like they're being scammed as well,
Speaker 11: which has been really powerful. We've had a lot of
Speaker 11: people that have been able to prevent their families from
Speaker 11: getting scammed through that.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that smart people fall for this stuff?
Speaker 1: Because people always think like, oh, it's they don't know
Speaker 1: what they're doing or they're silly, But it's like smart
Speaker 1: people that fall for this stuff. Why do you think
Speaker 1: that is?
Speaker 11: Oh yeah, yeah, Well, some of it's timing, like the
Speaker 11: right place, right time. I'll give you a quick example.
Speaker 11: My mother in law, who knows what I do and
Speaker 11: is well educated on this, she had purchased some some
Speaker 11: kind of workout equipment on Amazon a handful of months ago.
Speaker 11: She got an email a few days later that showed
Speaker 11: a treadmill purchase for you know, two thousand dollars and
Speaker 11: said to call this number if it was a fraudulent order.
Speaker 11: And she called it and they were giving her hard time,
Speaker 11: and she printed the email and brought it over to
Speaker 11: my house and said, I don't understand what's going on.
Speaker 11: I didn't order this treadmill because she had ordered some
Speaker 11: other like adjacent tech or like, yeah, it's similar to
Speaker 11: the fitness She she didn't even realize that it wasn't
Speaker 11: really Amazon and that it was a bunch of scammers. Thankfully,
Speaker 11: she brought it to my house right, but she did
Speaker 11: call them and it was it was just the right time,
Speaker 11: the right place. So I think that's part of it.
Speaker 11: The other, the other hand, is the scammers they like
Speaker 11: make thousands and thousands of phone calls, millions of calls
Speaker 11: every year, and they're perfecting their scripts and their strategies
Speaker 11: to manipulate humans. Basically, like they they know what makes
Speaker 11: us tick, what makes us scared, and what will make
Speaker 11: us fall for their for their scheme essentially.
Speaker 1: So what's the what's the key takeaway? Someone's listening, They're like, well,
Speaker 1: how do I protect myself. I can't you know, I
Speaker 1: can't keep up on every scam that's south because there's
Speaker 1: always new ones. But how what is the key takeaway?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I would say, apart from taking a look at
Speaker 11: serfsecure dot com, the other really big way that I'd
Speaker 11: always tell people is watch out for urgency. Almost every
Speaker 11: scam is going to have a sense of urgency. Whether
Speaker 11: you think that you won one hundred million dollars or
Speaker 11: that you owe a million dollars, they're going to tell
Speaker 11: you have to do it right now. And so you
Speaker 11: almost have to train yourself. Like, if there's a sense
Speaker 11: of panic and someone telling you don't hang up the phone,
Speaker 11: listen to me right now, the best thing to do
Speaker 11: in that case is to hang up the phone. The
Speaker 11: other tip I usually give out is like, it's okay
Speaker 11: to be skeptical. I don't know about you, Rich, but
Speaker 11: like I kind of was raised that being skeptical and
Speaker 11: questioning things almost came across as rude. But I think
Speaker 11: in today's age, especially with how easy it is for
Speaker 11: people to contact you on the Internet or your phone,
Speaker 11: you have to just be in that mindset of being
Speaker 11: a little skeptical when someone calls you to the blue
Speaker 11: and you don't recognize it. Maybe you shouldn't trust them,
Speaker 11: and maybe you shouldn't go along with things.
Speaker 1: You know what. There is one one other scam that
Speaker 1: I figured out because I get a lot of emails
Speaker 1: from people on a daily basis and they're a wide variety,
Speaker 1: and I got one from someone who wanted to give
Speaker 1: away a grand a baby grand piano, and I replied
Speaker 1: and said, you know, I thought they were just asking
Speaker 1: me for help. And I realized after like writing back,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh wait a second, this is a scam.
Speaker 1: So they can come in any way, any shape, any form,
Speaker 1: and you just have to be on guard at all
Speaker 1: times in this day and age. Because I ended up
Speaker 1: getting another email about a grand piano, I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go. This is another scam anyway, so now
Speaker 1: you can put that on your list. Thanks for joining
Speaker 1: me today, Kip Boga, really appreciate it. I'll put the
Speaker 1: links to the YouTube page. It's a channel is Kip
Speaker 1: Boga Show. And then you've got Seraphsecure dot com. I'll
Speaker 1: link those up on my website. Rich On tech dot tv,
Speaker 1: thanks for being here today. Yeah, absolutely, all right, coming
Speaker 1: up more of your calls eight eight eight rich one
Speaker 1: O one eight eight eight seven four two four one
Speaker 1: zero one. Plus prices are going up again for another
Speaker 1: streaming service. I'll tell you which one coming up next.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Kim was commenting call
Speaker 1: screen or Kim about the Apple Watch. She said, when
Speaker 1: she fell off her scooter, her watch went off and
Speaker 1: asked if it needed to call nine one one. So
Speaker 1: there you go. It does work. I mean it really,
Speaker 1: it saved a lot of lives. I mean also the
Speaker 1: high and low heart rate notifications are also really helpful
Speaker 1: for people. Interviewed a guy who literally had to go
Speaker 1: in for like what was it, like a bypass surgery,
Speaker 1: some sort of heart So, oh, you had a pacemaker
Speaker 1: installed because the Apple Watch told him something was wrong.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's really, it's it's changed a lot of
Speaker 1: people's lives. Spotify is increasing prices across all of their plans,
Speaker 1: so that's gonna happen next month, and people are already
Speaker 1: getting emails. Basically, if you're on the individual plan, that'll
Speaker 1: go up to twelve ninety nine, student plan to six
Speaker 1: ninety nine, duo to eighteen ninety nine, Family to twenty
Speaker 1: one ninety nine, So that's like a dollar or two
Speaker 1: per plan. First price hike in the US in about
Speaker 1: a year and a half. Spotify is not blaming inflation
Speaker 1: or rising costs. They say the higher prices reflect the
Speaker 1: value of what they're delivering. So just like this is
Speaker 1: the new law or the new rule, it's like death taxes,
Speaker 1: streaming service prices will go up. That's what we have
Speaker 1: now in this world. Let's go to Jimmy in Los Angeles. Jimmy,
Speaker 1: you're on with Rich. How can I help?
Speaker 2: Good afternoon, mister Rich.
Speaker 10: No, I have a Android cell phone and.
Speaker 2: I look at it sometimes.
Speaker 10: I look at a lot of animal programs or or
Speaker 10: stuff like that, you know, an hour like to know.
Speaker 12: Isn't it a way I can take this cell phone,
Speaker 12: uh and put it on a computer? The movies that
Speaker 12: I watch sometimes, can I put them on a computer
Speaker 12: or burn them into a computer?
Speaker 1: Well? What okay? I mean? Are these on like a
Speaker 1: YouTube type site?
Speaker 10: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Why can't you just watch YouTube on the computer.
Speaker 10: I'd like to have the tape myself so I can
Speaker 10: look at it one hundred times.
Speaker 1: Okay, So you want to, Okay, so you want to
Speaker 1: you want a like a recording of this basically, yes, exactly. Okay, well,
Speaker 1: if it's on YouTube, there's not there There are ways
Speaker 1: of downloading from YouTube, but a I can't truly recommend
Speaker 1: them because it's against their terms. But if it's your
Speaker 1: own if I was talking in terms of your own video,
Speaker 1: so if this was your own video that you were
Speaker 1: downloading from the website, there are some sites. There used
Speaker 1: to be one called Cobalt Tools that doesn't work anymore,
Speaker 1: so that would really that used to be a really
Speaker 1: easy way to download these videos. But the thing is,
Speaker 1: this gets kind of complicated. I mean, I think you
Speaker 1: just bookmark these videos on YouTube, create a playlist that
Speaker 1: you know, it could be private only you see, and
Speaker 1: then you just go to your desktop and see these
Speaker 1: as for like downloading the videos and transferring them to
Speaker 1: your computer, that's just like really complicated.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: Yes, there are ways of doing this, for sure, you know,
Speaker 1: but I don't think you're gonna find an app in
Speaker 1: the app store on the Android that will let you
Speaker 1: download from YouTube because Google does not allow that in
Speaker 1: they are terms of service. You're not really gonna find
Speaker 1: an app that does that. Now, you may find a
Speaker 1: web site that will let you do that, and you
Speaker 1: might be able to do that, but it's gonna take
Speaker 1: you so long to go through this process. It's you know,
Speaker 1: it's not really worth the time. You could do a
Speaker 1: screen recorder of your phone while you're watching the video
Speaker 1: that's not very clean, but you know, there, I'm really
Speaker 1: at a at a loss here because there are ways
Speaker 1: of doing this, but it's just none of it is clean,
Speaker 1: and you know it's all in the gray area too.
Speaker 1: So there are services. I'm a little bit hesitant to
Speaker 1: recommend them on a radio show like this because you know,
Speaker 1: I just it's just one of those things where you
Speaker 1: may just have to find this yourself. Now, with that said,
Speaker 1: there is there are some legitimate reasons why you might
Speaker 1: want to download your own YouTube videos, and there are
Speaker 1: many tools that will allow you to do that, but
Speaker 1: they are presented in that way, right like I have
Speaker 1: all these videos I uploaded and I want to download them,
Speaker 1: and so okay, these these services can maybe help you
Speaker 1: do that, but I can't really tell you like a simple,
Speaker 1: easy way to get this video from your phone to
Speaker 1: your computer without using a third party app that you
Speaker 1: know you may not even look on the app store,
Speaker 1: like the Google Player or the app store you may
Speaker 1: have to go to like installing a third party app,
Speaker 1: which I can't even you know, that's tricky, So I don't, Jimmy,
Speaker 1: I don't really have a good answer for you. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I would just make a playlist on YouTube of the
Speaker 1: stuff you want to watch over and over and just
Speaker 1: go to your desktop and do it that way. Let's
Speaker 1: go to Bob in Pennsylvania. Bob, you're on with Rich
Speaker 1: Iby Rich.
Speaker 2: Thank you very much. Yes, I was calling to see
Speaker 2: if you can answer a question I have about the
Speaker 2: Pruss to talk walkie talkies. One of the brands rapid
Speaker 2: radios is what I hear advertised, okay, and I was
Speaker 2: wondering can you get do you have communication with them
Speaker 2: whenever you're out of cell service or do they need
Speaker 2: cell service to operate? In other words, you're out the
Speaker 2: remote area of the woods. Yeah, no, self service will
Speaker 2: be substitutes.
Speaker 1: Not necessarily. So the way I'm looking at these, I've
Speaker 1: not tested these personally, but I actually I heard about
Speaker 1: these a long time ago because someone told me, like, hey,
Speaker 1: look into them, and it seems like, you know, it
Speaker 1: seems like all the marketing is like, hey, these things
Speaker 1: work anywhere, but it seems like at the end of
Speaker 1: the day it is going over an LTE connection. They
Speaker 1: make it very simil and push to talk, almost like
Speaker 1: Nextel back in the day. But it does say rapid
Speaker 1: Radios nationwide LTE, so that would lead me to believe
Speaker 1: that those are all through LTE. Now, they do have
Speaker 1: one called my Emergency Radio and that is VHF VHF UHF.
Speaker 1: That would would likely work without, you know, a cellular
Speaker 1: connection because it is a traditional walkie talkie. Now how
Speaker 1: far that works, I don't know. You'd have to you know,
Speaker 1: you have to look in their writing. But as far
Speaker 1: as something in the middle of the woods, Bob, do
Speaker 1: you have an iPhone?
Speaker 2: Well, no, it's an Android.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, you know, depending on the Android, the newer
Speaker 1: ones have satellite connectivity. And if you just want peace
Speaker 1: of mind, you can add starlink. Let's see starlink texting.
Speaker 1: You can add starlink texting nine one one to a
Speaker 1: lot of different smartphones for free from T Mobile. So
Speaker 1: if you just want that peace of mind to be
Speaker 1: able to text nine one one, I'll put a link
Speaker 1: on the website rich on tech dot TV. It's t
Speaker 1: mobile text to nine one one. Anyone can install this
Speaker 1: on their phone four three just for getting in touch
Speaker 1: with nine one one over satellite. It's a great service.
Speaker 1: Rich on Tech dot TV for the link. Welcome back
Speaker 1: to rich on Tech. Rich Tomuro here hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: talking technology at triple eight Rich one oh one eight
Speaker 1: eight A seven four to two four one zero one.
Speaker 1: We'll get to your calls in just a moment. But
Speaker 1: you got to know about this. They security researchers found
Speaker 1: some serious flaws in lots of earbuds and headphones. It's
Speaker 1: all related to this Google Fast Pair feature. So if
Speaker 1: you ever have an Android phone and you've got a
Speaker 1: pair of earbuds and you put them nearby, they sort
Speaker 1: of show up on the screen says, hey do you
Speaker 1: want to pair with these? And so hundreds of millions
Speaker 1: of headphones, earbuds, and speakers use this technology because it's
Speaker 1: really simple and it's really easy. Apple has similar technology
Speaker 1: on their phonees too, So this issue affects devices from
Speaker 1: brands like Sony, JBL, Jabra, Logitech Pixel Buds. People were
Speaker 1: able to connect these things from about fifty feet away.
Speaker 1: The attack is called whisper pair. It lets someone h
Speaker 1: silently hijack your audio device, mess with your sound, injected audio,
Speaker 1: even turn the microphone on and listen. They theoretically could
Speaker 1: track your location too, perhaps, but I would say that's
Speaker 1: probably not as common. But anyway, here's the deal. If
Speaker 1: you have a pair of headphones and you're on Android,
Speaker 1: you've got to update them so that they can't be
Speaker 1: vulnerable to this attack. So Google has issued patches, They're
Speaker 1: working with manufacturers. You can't turn this feature off easily
Speaker 1: at least. So the bottom line is, here's the fix.
Speaker 1: If you have a pair of earbuds and you're on Android,
Speaker 1: download the Companion app for those earbuds. You probably never
Speaker 1: did this before and look in the settings and see
Speaker 1: if there's a firmware update for your earbuds. So basically,
Speaker 1: you have to update the firmware on your earbuds, your speakers,
Speaker 1: and your headphones by downloading the Companion app. So, if
Speaker 1: you have a Sony speaker, Sony earbuds, find the Sony
Speaker 1: app that works with those earbuds in the play Store,
Speaker 1: download it and you know it'll show your earbuds in there,
Speaker 1: and then you would update the software or the firmware
Speaker 1: rather in the setting. Same thing, Jabra, Logitech, whatever you got.
Speaker 1: For instance, I've got a pair of Bows headphones, and
Speaker 1: if I go I've got the Bows app on my phone,
Speaker 1: I can look into the settings and it will say
Speaker 1: if there's a firmware update for these headphones. Similarly, I'm
Speaker 1: testing this little Marshal speaker, which sounds great by the way.
Speaker 1: You know that it goes Marshall amps that speaker. Same thing.
Speaker 1: It's got a companion app. Typically you wouldn't really install
Speaker 1: these companion apps because you're just like, well, my headphones work,
Speaker 1: why would I need that? Hey, let you dial in settings,
Speaker 1: change things good, stuff like that, So definitely do that.
Speaker 1: If you got Android, got an email from Gerald, I've
Speaker 1: got an S twenty five. I cannot separate notification sounds
Speaker 1: from my emails, text ring, or doorbell. I'd like to
Speaker 1: be able to make them sound different. Please help. Well
Speaker 1: this took me a minute to figure out. But if
Speaker 1: you go into your settings on Android on Samsung, rather
Speaker 1: settings Notifications, and then you go into Advanced Settings, you'll
Speaker 1: see manage notification categories for each app, and now you
Speaker 1: should be able to change those notification sounds for each app.
Speaker 1: Let me just confirm that that is the case. So
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go into one of these and let's see.
Speaker 1: Does it give me a hmmm? Still looking for the
Speaker 1: sound here? I don't really it used to be you
Speaker 1: would just go into the into the Okay, hold on,
Speaker 1: is this it notific categories? I got to look at
Speaker 1: this more because it seems like there's got to be
Speaker 1: a way to change the sound for each app. That
Speaker 1: would just makes sense. But I gotta I gotta find
Speaker 1: out how to do that. Let's go to Kathy in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. Kathy, you're on with RH Hi. Hi, what's up? Hi?
Speaker 10: Okay? Y?
Speaker 6: I did the I phone up?
Speaker 2: Hy?
Speaker 1: You said Hi again? Sorry you said I phone Hi.
Speaker 13: Anyway, I did it yesterday. I have had drop call
Speaker 13: like NonStop, and I'm kind of shocked that I'm still
Speaker 13: online with you.
Speaker 1: We lost you.
Speaker 6: Do you hear me? Hello?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Do you hear me?
Speaker 1: Yes?
Speaker 6: Okay? Anyway, drop calls after I did the software update?
Speaker 1: So you updated your phone to twenty six, the iOS
Speaker 1: twenty six, the newest one, and now you're dropping calls?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: And it's in places you didn't drop calls before.
Speaker 6: No, I'm sitting in sitting in my living room.
Speaker 1: Okay, what what service do you have?
Speaker 6: HT? Okay, and it's a five G I've phone fourteen Okay.
Speaker 1: I mean, look, there could be a connection between these
Speaker 1: two things. You know, when when software changes, there are
Speaker 1: things that change on the phone, so that that could
Speaker 1: definitely be a problem. It could be also coincidence. Has
Speaker 1: this been happening over and over or just a couple
Speaker 1: of times, or just you.
Speaker 6: Know, it happened all last night?
Speaker 1: Okay, So what I would say, there's a couple of
Speaker 1: things you could do. Number one, you can try restarting
Speaker 1: your phone. That's the simplest way.
Speaker 6: I did that.
Speaker 1: Okay, did that. There's also in the there is a
Speaker 1: way to kind of reset your cellular connection. But the
Speaker 1: problem is if you do that, you're going to be
Speaker 1: resetting all of your Bluetooth and your Wi Fi. So
Speaker 1: it's kind of annoying. But do you want to I'll
Speaker 1: tell you where that is just in case. So if
Speaker 1: you if you go into your settings and then you
Speaker 1: go under general and then scroll all the way down,
Speaker 1: it says transfer or reset phone. I know this is
Speaker 1: scary because we're getting into like erasing stuff, but be
Speaker 1: careful here, don't don't. Don't go through these menus fast.
Speaker 1: That's the last thing you want to do. And then
Speaker 1: there's a button at the bottom that says reset, And
Speaker 1: if you tap that, I know it sounds scary because
Speaker 1: it's saying reset, it doesn't do anything. Then you get
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of secondary options reset, reset all settings,
Speaker 1: reset network settings, delete all e sims, reset keyboard, reset handwriting,
Speaker 1: reset home screen, reset location cancel. So the one that
Speaker 1: I would recommend trying is reset network settings. And if
Speaker 1: you do that, it's basically going to wipe all of
Speaker 1: your network settings clean. That's your Bluetooth, that's your cellular,
Speaker 1: and that's your Wi Fi. And once it does that,
Speaker 1: it's going to handshake with the network again. And maybe
Speaker 1: it's just like whatever it needs to download to sound
Speaker 1: better or stay connected will work. But your phone, the
Speaker 1: hardware on your phone is not changed in any way,
Speaker 1: so you still have the same antenna, you still have
Speaker 1: the same signal that you're getting from the tower. So
Speaker 1: it shouldn't really affect this long term. But there could
Speaker 1: be an issue with this software that you know seemingly
Speaker 1: is effectiveness to me. Yeah, but again, you know, you
Speaker 1: can also give it a little bit of time. Sometimes
Speaker 1: after a software update, your phone also needs to download
Speaker 1: some additional software from the carrier so that you know,
Speaker 1: it does it in the background, So that could be happening.
Speaker 1: But in general, I would say, don't do anything right now,
Speaker 1: just kind of monitor this and if you're using your
Speaker 1: phone over the next week and this still keeps happening,
Speaker 1: then I might do the solution that I mentioned and
Speaker 1: see if that helps. But I wouldn't do anything like over,
Speaker 1: you know, just right away, because sometimes these things have
Speaker 1: a way of fixing themselves. It could have been a fluke.
Speaker 1: I mean, it could have been that you updated your
Speaker 1: software and AT and T was working on the pole
Speaker 1: outside your house. I mean, these things happen for sure,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 6: One last question. Sure you have a test lass three?
Speaker 1: Okay?
Speaker 6: And I want to get an external CD players to
Speaker 6: play my CDs. Now, do not make fun of me.
Speaker 6: My kids think I'm a dinosaur, but I would like
Speaker 6: to control it. Like any recommendations on what player to buy.
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you'd be able to connect
Speaker 1: a CD player to a Tesla. How would you connect it?
Speaker 1: I'm wondering, Well, I went online.
Speaker 6: It's like a USB.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I'm I mean, I mean I have a
Speaker 1: Tesla and I'm just trying to figure out if you
Speaker 1: could plug in a USB to the Tesla. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know you, I know that Tesla has USB ports, right,
Speaker 1: but will a CD? Let mean, this is the first
Speaker 1: time here.
Speaker 6: Maybe it's like you have to go into the control
Speaker 6: center and recognize new media.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, hmm, I mean what about okay, what
Speaker 1: about And I'm not even sure that this that you
Speaker 1: can do that? Okay. It says you could theoretically add
Speaker 1: a USB powered CD player through the cars USB port.
Speaker 1: I have not tried that, but if if it works,
Speaker 1: I mean, you could go on Amazon and buy one
Speaker 1: of these CD players and try it and plug it in.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't work, return it. But that is no right,
Speaker 1: that's the first I've heard of that. I mean, let
Speaker 1: me just see this. Okay. So here's a CD player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it's going to be expensive. I mean there's
Speaker 1: some I'm looking at the prices here. I'd have to
Speaker 1: find one that I know works. This is wild. It's
Speaker 1: kind of expensive. Some of them. It's like one hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and it might you know, don't forget with CDs.
Speaker 1: It might also if the CD player is not high quality,
Speaker 1: you might get jumps during your songs.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah.
Speaker 1: The other thing you could do is a obviously, you
Speaker 1: can play music through your phone through Bluetooth, which it
Speaker 1: sounds like you don't want to do, but that's an
Speaker 1: easy way to do it. You can also use a
Speaker 1: flash drive. You know in your glove compartment, you've got
Speaker 1: a little flash drive in there. You could plug that in.
Speaker 6: But that would mean I need to take my CDs
Speaker 6: and transfer it.
Speaker 1: To Yeah, but that's pretty easy. There's a there's a
Speaker 1: lot of software that will rip CDs, so I mean
Speaker 1: you could get yeah, oh yeah, that would be I
Speaker 1: think that would be your Here's what I'll tell you, Kathy,
Speaker 1: what I think you should do, which I think is
Speaker 1: the absolute simplest solution. Okay, you can take your you
Speaker 1: can take your CDs, you can rip them to the
Speaker 1: to the m P three's and then you go to
Speaker 1: YouTube music. So you go to YouTube dot music dot com.
Speaker 1: You literally drag those files onto that website and they
Speaker 1: will appear on your phone inside the YouTube Music app.
Speaker 1: And then you could just connect that to your car
Speaker 1: and listen on Bluetooth and that's doesn't you know it
Speaker 1: almost doesn't cost you anything to do that, and it's
Speaker 1: you know, you get I think you could store like
Speaker 1: fifty thousand songs and it's your music.
Speaker 6: It seems like time consuming.
Speaker 1: I I agree. But didn't you say you have kids?
Speaker 6: Yeah, they're forty and thirty eight, and they think I'm insane.
Speaker 1: So well, isn't isn't that the role of children? My
Speaker 1: kids are eleven and fourteen and they think I'm insane.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, your kids are young.
Speaker 1: Just wait, and I think my parents are insane.
Speaker 6: If they adore you.
Speaker 10: Just wait, why.
Speaker 1: Don't they throw out the stuff that's expired in their pantry?
Speaker 1: That's insane to me, But this is what parents do.
Speaker 1: But I think, I mean, yes, I would say, look,
Speaker 1: if you want the simple way, try the CD. If
Speaker 1: you just want to do that, I think it's you're
Speaker 1: It's funny. You're driving the most high tech car in
Speaker 1: America and you're going to put a CD player. I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 6: I'm going to be seventy two. I think I've earned
Speaker 6: the right to play my CDs. And I've got some
Speaker 6: really unusual CDs, unusual artists. Sure, which you know it's
Speaker 6: going to be really hard to find it.
Speaker 13: Okay, can burn it.
Speaker 1: I will. I will have to. I will have to
Speaker 1: find a recommendation for a seton player fail you Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: Hello at rich on tech dot TV. We'll keep this going. Uh,
Speaker 1: hello at rich on tech dot TV. That is I mean,
Speaker 1: now I want to try this in my car. It's
Speaker 1: been years since I thought about putting a CD player,
Speaker 1: but now I will try this for sure, and we'll
Speaker 1: have to report back on this. Thanks for the call,
Speaker 1: Kathy eighty eight rich one on one back after this,
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on tech. I'm still sitting here
Speaker 1: trying to figure out how to make the notifications different
Speaker 1: for apps individual apps on the Samsung. I think I
Speaker 1: figured it out. Let me see here, Okay, so if
Speaker 1: I go there and then eighty to eight rich one
Speaker 1: oh one eighty eight seven four to two four one
Speaker 1: zero one, okay, so I think I figured it out
Speaker 1: here it is Okay, this is a little weird, and
Speaker 1: maybe I'm going around in circles with this, but it
Speaker 1: seems like you have to do two things to enable
Speaker 1: if you want different apps on your androids, specifically Samsung,
Speaker 1: to make different sounds like maybe you want your you
Speaker 1: know Doorbell to make one sound a text message to
Speaker 1: make another. You can go in and it looks like
Speaker 1: you have to go into settings, Notifications, Advance Settings and
Speaker 1: then tap the option to toggle it on for manage
Speaker 1: notification categories for each app. Seems like that's number one.
Speaker 1: Then you go into apps and then you tap an
Speaker 1: app like I put Airbnb, and I go into notifications
Speaker 1: and now it says categories, it unlocks that, and now
Speaker 1: if I scroll to general, it gives me the option
Speaker 1: to choose a sound for that app, like a specific sound.
Speaker 1: Seems like that's the way to do it. Let me
Speaker 1: just go into sounds real quick, just to make sure
Speaker 1: if there's not like an easier way. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: that's really it interesting. That's that's a little bit. I
Speaker 1: guess you gotta know what you're doing to do that.
Speaker 1: But I'll put all those instructions on the website. Rich
Speaker 1: on tech dot TV, we got to comment from Stella
Speaker 1: and Redondo. Stella, what's up?
Speaker 2: Uh?
Speaker 1: Oh you there? Stella? Stella? Okay, well Stella, can't I
Speaker 1: guess you know, some people think they're gonna be waiting
Speaker 1: for a long time, and so they put their phone
Speaker 1: on speaker they go, they water the plants. Let's go
Speaker 1: to Joan in San Diego. Joan, you're on with Rich.
Speaker 2: Hi.
Speaker 1: Rich Hi.
Speaker 14: I'm looking well lately with the gold price of gold
Speaker 14: and silver just skyrocketing. I've collected over the years, and
Speaker 14: I'm I'm kind of looking to maybe buy a digital
Speaker 14: met precious metal tech detector. I've tried all the chemical
Speaker 14: types kits and things, and they're just not very reliable.
Speaker 14: And I don't know if they showed any visit the
Speaker 14: tech show. I mean maybe they didn't need to. But
Speaker 14: I called the company in China to get a quote
Speaker 14: on one, and for their lower model, lower end model,
Speaker 14: it was fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 1: Oh my god. What what company was that?
Speaker 6: It was v Ran. It's called a vr H five.
Speaker 1: Okay, that sounds uh sounds like you're gonna like take
Speaker 1: over the world with that thing. Yeah, it sounds like
Speaker 1: a superhero movie.
Speaker 14: I've looked at him on Walmart and there you can
Speaker 14: buy something from you know, four hundred to forty three hundred,
Speaker 14: but not a single one has any reviews. Yeah, which
Speaker 14: is odd, and I just feel weird buying something like this,
Speaker 14: you know.
Speaker 6: I don't know.
Speaker 14: I went to the company because they wanted to buy
Speaker 14: directly from the company.
Speaker 1: How much do you want to spend.
Speaker 14: I'd like to spend a I'd like to be under
Speaker 14: a couple grand.
Speaker 1: What about going into a coin shop and asking them
Speaker 1: what they use, Well, that is a great idea.
Speaker 14: I know the two ones in town use chemical because
Speaker 14: I've been in there and watched.
Speaker 1: Them do it, right, But they'll know, they'll know the
Speaker 1: brands to look for, you know, for a consumer. I
Speaker 1: mean I'm just looking online right now, and yeah, you're right.
Speaker 1: I mean, the high end ones are super expensive, and
Speaker 1: of course then you have the ones that are like
Speaker 1: five six hundred dollars, but who knows if they work
Speaker 1: because it's not like Amazon is really selling a large
Speaker 1: number of these, you know what I mean. So it's
Speaker 1: tough to get like a take on. Let me just see,
Speaker 1: like five gold tester.
Speaker 14: It's like buying a metal detector. You know, you get
Speaker 14: a cheap one and you know what it's going to happen, right.
Speaker 1: You know, And even just searching like Amazon for these things,
Speaker 1: there's not really a simple I mean, here's here's one.
Speaker 1: This one's two hundred and fifteen dollars. It has a
Speaker 1: decent amount of reviews, but it's only got three point seven,
Speaker 1: which means probably not very good. But I would, I
Speaker 1: would lean upon one of these shops and just go
Speaker 1: in there and talk to them. It sounds like you
Speaker 1: already know you're familiar with some of them. I would,
Speaker 1: you know, go in and just ask them, say like, hey,
Speaker 1: I'm looking for some of that's under five hundred bucks,
Speaker 1: Like what do you recommend? What brand? Where should I
Speaker 1: be looking here? And they may say, oh, yeah, this
Speaker 1: is the one that all the you know, all the
Speaker 1: people use from Amazon. That's cheap, or they may say,
Speaker 1: oh you're you're it's not even worth buying this unless
Speaker 1: you're gonna spend fifteen thousand dollars, got it? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean?
Speaker 14: Good idea? Yeah, okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure you know I see on your notes
Speaker 1: here you said did you see him at CES? I
Speaker 1: did not. But you know what I'll do next year, Joan,
Speaker 1: I will be on the lookout for a gold Tester.
Speaker 1: But this one on Amazon, this misar m I z
Speaker 1: ar uh. You know, I don't know if you saw
Speaker 1: that one came across, but people seem to like it.
Speaker 1: The problem is let's see thirty day refund replacement. You
Speaker 1: might you know, you might be able to return it,
Speaker 1: but it looks like it's kind of a third party thing,
Speaker 1: so it may not be that easy, so I'd be
Speaker 1: very careful.
Speaker 10: There.
Speaker 1: Good question. Interesting for sure. I love the variations we
Speaker 1: get on this show, get a lot of varied things.
Speaker 1: Rich on tech dot tv is the website coming up. Oh,
Speaker 1: I got a great app. Look for it now on
Speaker 1: your phone. It's called Zoe Health. It's available for iPhone
Speaker 1: and Android. We're gonna talk to one of the co
Speaker 1: founders of that company. Coming up next. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: rich on Tech. Rich Demiro here hanging out with you,
Speaker 1: talking technology. The website rich on tech dot tv links
Speaker 1: to everything I talk about there. I was in Trader
Speaker 1: Joe's and I saw a woman scanning food items with
Speaker 1: her phone, and I said, what are you doing there?
Speaker 1: And she goes, Oh, I use this app to tell
Speaker 1: me if this is healthy or not. I said, oh,
Speaker 1: that's interesting, And so she was using the app called Yuka.
Speaker 1: And I did a little research and I found there's
Speaker 1: a whole bunch of these apps. Bobby approved Yuka. There's
Speaker 1: another one called Zoe which I ended up getting in
Speaker 1: touch with them and we talked about Zoe Health, and
Speaker 1: I've grown to really like this app. You basically use
Speaker 1: it to scan food and it gives it a score
Speaker 1: from one to one hundred based on all kinds of stuff.
Speaker 1: And so let's hear from Professor Tim Spector, co founder
Speaker 1: of Zoe, to explain what this is all about. So
Speaker 1: what is Zoe? How do you describe what it is?
Speaker 15: It's a nutrition science company that is really leading the
Speaker 15: revolution in gut health and trying to give people the
Speaker 15: best tools that we can give to improve their choice
Speaker 15: of foods.
Speaker 1: And there's so many apps out there that help with health.
Speaker 1: Do you think that this has been a good thing
Speaker 1: for people, the ability of them to scan things into
Speaker 1: research using their phone.
Speaker 15: I think apps are empowering people to take control against
Speaker 15: all the big food companies that are trying to steer
Speaker 15: them in the wrong direction. So it's really complex nutrition,
Speaker 15: and that's why we need AI and tech tools to
Speaker 15: help everybody make these choices. It's really not that easy.
Speaker 15: And so suddenly we're now in a position where we
Speaker 15: have these tools to help us every day because the
Speaker 15: food choices we make every day of our lives are
Speaker 15: the most important things we can do for our health.
Speaker 1: What are we up against when it comes to these choices.
Speaker 15: We're up against big food and false labeling, false health claims.
Speaker 15: Everybody bombarding people with extra vitamins, extra protein, or new
Speaker 15: added sweeteners, low calorie. All these messages are all false,
Speaker 15: disguising the fact that most of the foods they average
Speaker 15: American is eating are really bad for them, actually making
Speaker 15: them hungrier, making them sicker. So we definitely need tools
Speaker 15: to fight back against these giants and all their propaganda.
Speaker 1: And how do you think Zowe does that?
Speaker 15: Zoe does that by giving people tools based on science.
Speaker 15: We've been doing a hard science for over eight years now,
Speaker 15: looking at three hundred thousand people that have done these tests,
Speaker 15: so we know exactly how people respond to foods. We
Speaker 15: know what the food companies are trying to do, and
Speaker 15: our scientists have really given us the antidote to that
Speaker 15: the food industries scientists who are trying to tempt us
Speaker 15: down the wrong path.
Speaker 1: And what does the app do if I scan a food?
Speaker 1: Tell me what that does?
Speaker 15: The app is able to you to snap a picture
Speaker 15: of any food on your plate or in a store,
Speaker 15: and it will tell you exactly what's in it, the ingredients.
Speaker 1: It tells you.
Speaker 15: How much fiber, how much proteins are there, and it
Speaker 15: will also tell you it's processing risk, so how risky
Speaker 15: the actual chemicals and ingredients and mix are for your health.
Speaker 15: Up to now, we've had very broad descriptions of what
Speaker 15: is ultra processed food in court that's sixty percent of
Speaker 15: the American diet, seventy five percent of children's diets. But
Speaker 15: it's too broad. We can't cut out that much food.
Speaker 15: So we've focused on is to sorry and say, what's
Speaker 15: the twenty five percent that's really high risk? So it
Speaker 15: has additives that are bad few, it's hyper palatable, it
Speaker 15: makes you overeat them. They're really soft and easy to digest,
Speaker 15: so you get that burst of energy and carries without
Speaker 15: even thinking about it. And it's these these tricks the
Speaker 15: food companies are doing that we have now logged into
Speaker 15: our app so that when you go to the store
Speaker 15: you can make the smart choice and avoid the very
Speaker 15: worst offenders and sometimes have ultra processed foods that are
Speaker 15: actually reasonably good for you.
Speaker 1: And how does this compare to other apps? Or so
Speaker 1: there's a couple of apps that allow you to scan
Speaker 1: out there. How do you think you're taking an approach
Speaker 1: that might be different from them or is it all
Speaker 1: the same.
Speaker 15: Our approach is different. It's more holistic than the other apps.
Speaker 15: The ones that I know have say a list of
Speaker 15: all the additives in and merely listed them out, so
Speaker 15: you just rank them. If they have an additive, they're
Speaker 15: bad for you and therefore that's the end of it.
Speaker 15: Whereas we know that some of these additives in food
Speaker 15: might actually be good for you, so some of the
Speaker 15: absids might be vomit them in cea for example a
Speaker 15: score by g acid. And so what we've done is
Speaker 15: look to those additives only worried about the ones that
Speaker 15: are bad for health, that have been shown to be
Speaker 15: bad for health. And then we've got these other categories
Speaker 15: like make you overeat and the category density of the food,
Speaker 15: different constituents of the structure of the food. So it's
Speaker 15: much more holistic picture rather than just relying on addatives alone.
Speaker 1: How much of the app is helping you in informing
Speaker 1: you versus selling you? Are we trying? Is the app
Speaker 1: just meant to a vector to get people to buy
Speaker 1: the supplement or is it actually there to help folks.
Speaker 15: The reason it's free is to educate people and to
Speaker 15: help folks and to really move us away from the
Speaker 15: power of the food industry. And that's the predominant use
Speaker 15: of this app. We want to educate America about what
Speaker 15: good food is, how you can use technology to pick it,
Speaker 15: and how you can pick the right foods that help
Speaker 15: you and your gut health.
Speaker 1: How can people rest assured that the information they're seeing
Speaker 1: this app is not biased in any way.
Speaker 15: Zoe is a science led company that's published over seventy
Speaker 15: peer reviewed publications. We recently had our gut Health test
Speaker 15: published in the world's most prestigious journal, Nature, and so
Speaker 15: we have a whole team of scientists working on these projects.
Speaker 15: They come from universities and academia, highly distinguished people, and
Speaker 15: so we are reputation based on our unbiased approach to science.
Speaker 15: If the science tells us something, that's what we put
Speaker 15: in the app. So the cool thing about the app
Speaker 15: is not only does it get you to recognize highly
Speaker 15: risk processed foods, but it also allows you every day
Speaker 15: to take pictures of your meals and you get a
Speaker 15: snapshot of what that's scoring in terms of your general
Speaker 15: health and for your gut health, and you do that
Speaker 15: every day over weeks, you can start tracking things like
Speaker 15: your fiber remounts, your protein levels, and the diversity of
Speaker 15: different plants. Because what we want to do is to
Speaker 15: get Americans to really start thinking about food from point
Speaker 15: of view their gut microbes. That's why we've got to
Speaker 15: try rakka in there that says how many different plants
Speaker 15: you're having over a week, because we want people to
Speaker 15: get to thirty plants a week, and that's what our
Speaker 15: science is telling us is the optimum amount.
Speaker 1: For your gut health.
Speaker 15: We also want people to have more fermented foods, so
Speaker 15: you can track how many of those you're getting. We
Speaker 15: want you have colorful foods, We want people to reduce
Speaker 15: their snacking, all kinds of things.
Speaker 1: That are good for your gut health.
Speaker 15: So all no, it's a multi purpose toolkit really to
Speaker 15: improve your health and make the best food choices.
Speaker 1: And I guess the final question is what's the benefit
Speaker 1: of all this. What's the benefit of improving our health
Speaker 1: or improving the gut in the way we eat.
Speaker 15: We believe that about seventy to eighty percent of all
Speaker 15: the common diseases in America can be prevented if everyone
Speaker 15: was on an optimum diet as opposed to the standard
Speaker 15: American diet. So being able to shift that is really important.
Speaker 15: And in terms of individuals, what that means is if
Speaker 15: you switch to the healthiest diet you can, you will
Speaker 15: gain an extra ten years of healthy life, so that
Speaker 15: you're pushing away those diseases by ten years. So that
Speaker 15: has a huge impact on millions and millions of people.
Speaker 1: There you have it once again. That is Professor Tim Spector,
Speaker 1: co founder of Zoe. The app is called Zoe Health.
Speaker 1: I really enjoy this app. Look for it on iOS
Speaker 1: or Android. It is free to scan foods. I just
Speaker 1: scanned my It was a seaweed snack that got one hundred.
Speaker 1: I scanned Bobo's famous Amos chocolate chip cookies that gets
Speaker 1: a twenty. Enjoy Occasionally he just shrugs. I enjoyed. Right now.
Speaker 1: Feedback coming up next right here on rich on Tech.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to rich on Tech. Two items of note
Speaker 1: before we open up the feedbag man. This show Flew
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Speaker 1: Let's open up the feedback. Denise says, I had to
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Speaker 1: I started scanning items in my pantry. The results were
Speaker 1: eye opening. A mini non scored thirty. That one's out.
Speaker 1: Magic spoon protein granola scored a ninety. That's a keeper.
Speaker 1: I've checked several other items. I love how easy it
Speaker 1: is snap a picture. I'm heading to Sprouts now, can't
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Speaker 1: for kicking off my weight loss journey. Thanks so much.
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