1 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 1: This is an eater podcast coming at you shirtless, severely, 2 00:00:13,440 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: bug bitten, and in my case, underwear listening. Don't make 3 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:25,200 Speaker 1: me eat the podcast. You can't predict anything. Oh listen, 4 00:00:30,080 --> 00:00:37,559 Speaker 1: there you go, boys, how y'all he's fired up to night. 5 00:00:37,600 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: I feel the energy sacramental. What's up, guys is? Uh? 6 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 1: I got a couple people I want to ask about. 7 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 1: Larry Costigo here, Yeah, what's your wife's name? We'll get 8 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: to that. Uh. Um and uh, Greg Fonts, you guys 9 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:23,600 Speaker 1: know you guys know the Free Dive Shop West Sacramento. Right, Okay, 10 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:25,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna do a bunch of things to night. We're 11 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:29,039 Speaker 1: gonna do our normal show. Um. Then we're gonna do 12 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:32,880 Speaker 1: a thing that we're doing at our live shows, which 13 00:01:32,920 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: is called two Lies in the Truth a k a. 14 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: Seeing through the bullshit, Seeing through the bullshit. And uh, 15 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: we already picked a seat number before any of you 16 00:01:47,520 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: have to trust us that we just randomly selected a 17 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: seat number. Do you remember what it is, Steve? Do 18 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,800 Speaker 1: you remember what it is? And that person will get 19 00:01:56,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: to play the game. Uh, so we're gonna do that. 20 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:06,520 Speaker 1: Get a lot of interesting emails from California all the time. 21 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: When I think about is It's like what wasn't I'm 22 00:02:13,560 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: not sure whether there was a laugh there. It's like, uh, 23 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 1: it's like a lovable kind of nuthouse around here. Uh. 24 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,240 Speaker 1: The uber driver. I was with the uber driver this 25 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: morning and he got kind of circumspect for a minute. 26 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:28,959 Speaker 1: I wrote it down what he said to me. He says, 27 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 1: you know, the problem with California's We've got too many 28 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: fucking crazy people. He were not long ago. We get 29 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: an email from a guy not long ago who was 30 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 1: complaining about they had to go get a mountain lion 31 00:02:43,160 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: depredation permit because the mountain lion is wiping out his ostriches, 32 00:02:52,000 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it's an our seat in the news too, 33 00:02:57,280 --> 00:02:59,640 Speaker 1: Like you guys just have your own special set of things. 34 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 1: There was I was reading an article do you guys 35 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: now have There's an article in National Geographic talking about 36 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:10,360 Speaker 1: how you guys now have like the world's only population 37 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: of blue eyed coyotes, which feels so intensely California, like 38 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,959 Speaker 1: there's no there's like no way that Nebraska right is 39 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: gonna have blue eyed and Chuck Taylors and and of 40 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:33,040 Speaker 1: course National Geographic manages to spin the fact that California 41 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 1: has blue eyed coyotes into an anti hunting article. It's 42 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 1: like if they did an article about my mom's cookies 43 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 1: and the end they'd be like, you know, people shouldn't 44 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:46,480 Speaker 1: really be able to hunt. I was reading not long 45 00:03:46,520 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: with a lot of people wrote in this guy, I 46 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:52,240 Speaker 1: want to get this place? Why Rio del Mar? Yeah, yeah, 47 00:03:52,320 --> 00:03:56,080 Speaker 1: what's the beach you're laughing about? New can Beach. That's 48 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: that's California. You're crazy, right, Therapy Can Beach, Beer Camp 49 00:03:59,240 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 1: Beach and a d dude recently shot. That's the time 50 00:04:03,440 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: I've ever heard of this. A man. Uh, he was 51 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: fined for this shot and killed a great white shark 52 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 1: with a twenty two rifle off Beer Camp Beach, over 53 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,720 Speaker 1: five hundred pounds, over nine ft tall, nine ft long. 54 00:04:17,640 --> 00:04:20,240 Speaker 1: The guy only get so this is the international like 55 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: it's international conservation status of the great whitest vulnerable. The 56 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:27,440 Speaker 1: guy gets only a five thousand dollar fine. Hold on, 57 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 1: are we playing that game right now? And it was 58 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 1: it washes up on the beach. People are like laying 59 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 1: down with it and taking pictures of it, and it 60 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: looks totally fine. But they did a knee cropsy on 61 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 1: it and had a and a guy that had had 62 00:04:41,120 --> 00:04:43,480 Speaker 1: shot at three times with a twenty two. He was fishing. 63 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:47,800 Speaker 1: He's a commercial fisherman. Disney doesn't even lose his license. Uh, 64 00:04:47,880 --> 00:04:49,600 Speaker 1: shoots it three times with twenty two. One of the 65 00:04:49,640 --> 00:04:53,760 Speaker 1: shots separates the backbone. Hit hit it through the spine, 66 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,760 Speaker 1: kills it. Washes up on a beach. They do knee 67 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:58,960 Speaker 1: crops and find three twenty two rounds in it. Someone's like, oh, yeah, 68 00:04:58,960 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: there was a guy or like some squad fishermen are out, 69 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: they go and find him. They find the exact rifle 70 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: behind his seat, destroy the rifle and only a five 71 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: thousand dollar fine, two years probation, two years of probation. 72 00:05:10,600 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 1: He did get probation, he did two years from fishing. 73 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh I didn't see that because we were being an 74 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: article recently in Ohio. They're they're they're harder in Ohio 75 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:24,480 Speaker 1: for catching yellow perch than they are here for great 76 00:05:24,480 --> 00:05:27,640 Speaker 1: white sharks. There's been no yellow perch movies I've ever seen. 77 00:05:28,080 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: It's great. Instead of jaws, it's called little lips. I 78 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: want to talk about this case from it, this Ohio case, 79 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: because it was it's like, uh, this big poaching case 80 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: that came out. It's called why is it called the 81 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: north Shore north coast, North Coast, but it's the south 82 00:05:51,080 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: coast of Lake Erie where this occurred. Cover. Yeah. And 83 00:05:55,960 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 1: it's like a case where poaching gets so bad that 84 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: they that it actually earns the term racketeering. The largest 85 00:06:04,120 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: poaching case ever for Ohio Department and Natural Resources. They 86 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,520 Speaker 1: wind up it's racketeering. So they wind up confiscating ninety 87 00:06:12,600 --> 00:06:16,360 Speaker 1: six deer in Turkey mounts, thirty five sets of antlers, 88 00:06:16,400 --> 00:06:19,919 Speaker 1: two dred pounds of flayed sport fish, four hundred pounds 89 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: of dbone venison, and process dear meat. And here's what 90 00:06:22,640 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: it gets interesting is that the racketeering ring is a 91 00:06:26,320 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 1: whole bunch. There's like forty some people involved in this. 92 00:06:29,960 --> 00:06:33,480 Speaker 1: They shoot hundreds of deer, bone the meat out and 93 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: take it to what's the guy smoking team and have 94 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: over the course of investigation, they take two thousand pounds 95 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: of deer meat down and turn it all into what 96 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:50,920 Speaker 1: they call smokey's, so like smoke sticks. The processor then 97 00:06:51,080 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: sells the smokey sticks and they use the money to 98 00:06:54,920 --> 00:07:01,160 Speaker 1: buy to get their own ship stuffed. Is like this ring, 99 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,160 Speaker 1: and so they're there, which earned them a money laundering 100 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 1: citation in there as well. Yeah, and communications fraud because 101 00:07:10,040 --> 00:07:12,400 Speaker 1: they would just shooting dear but then have like their 102 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: old lady called the deer in and act like she 103 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:19,520 Speaker 1: got it, which makes it communications fraud and racketeering money. Yeah. 104 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 1: The smoking tease, he gets it for money laundering because 105 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:27,000 Speaker 1: he's converting poached deer into smokey's, which I didn't even 106 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: know that term. They use smokey's in the article in 107 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:36,280 Speaker 1: quotes one of these guys, he gets, uh, twenty two 108 00:07:36,320 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: months in prison. He can't hunt, fish or trap until. 109 00:07:41,240 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 1: I can't even do that much math um. Another guy 110 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,200 Speaker 1: who in the same like racketeering ring, he goes out 111 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,920 Speaker 1: and catches a bunch of walleye in lake Erie, takes 112 00:07:53,960 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: him in alive well, enters a walleye fishing context on 113 00:07:57,120 --> 00:08:03,120 Speaker 1: the river when and then he gets fraud. He gets 114 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: fraud by their theft by deception and has to pay 115 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: the bait and tackle shot back their money. Another dude 116 00:08:10,320 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: get he sells to undercover agents a hundred pounds of 117 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:18,440 Speaker 1: perch and Wally and bass Filat's two investigators. In all, 118 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 1: it's forty six defendants charged with ninety one felonies seventy 119 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,960 Speaker 1: three misdemeanors, forty six individuals assessed to combine one hundred 120 00:08:27,960 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 1: and thirty one thousand, seven hundred sixty three and fines 121 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: and restitution eight point six years jail time, seventy nine 122 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: years of hunting revocation, and eighteen thousand in court costs. 123 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 1: These sounds like the dudes I grew up with, though, 124 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: but nothing ever having on It was like kind of 125 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 1: like the dudes my my dad fished with dudes that 126 00:08:52,800 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 1: would But John Garry I could say his names. He's dead. Uh. 127 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: One day he was like flame perch and he was 128 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,520 Speaker 1: telling me how he the U was telling me about 129 00:09:02,559 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 1: where he sells his perch flats, and he said he 130 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 1: was telling me that whenever you sell him flays, he's 131 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: always got his thumb on the scale, and he says 132 00:09:11,400 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: the when you're buying something from him, he's got this 133 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,040 Speaker 1: finger under the scale. But yeah, these guys like it's 134 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 1: like I remember this John Gary. He was right down. 135 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 1: He had a notepad and he'd write down every book 136 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: he read, and he'd write down what happened every day 137 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: he fished. And this guy would fit. Everyone likes to 138 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:29,959 Speaker 1: say they fished two hund days a year. But this 139 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,599 Speaker 1: guy would legitimately fish two hundred days a year, but 140 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: he lived by himself. There's no way to account for 141 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,360 Speaker 1: all the pan fish he caught. And he was just 142 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: like a UM racketeer. We had to look up what 143 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 1: racketeer meant. We want to make sure that that applied 144 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: in this case. Yeah, it's like, uh, basically an unlicensed 145 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: business with the intent too kind of deceived. I guess 146 00:09:58,559 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: like you have a of crime business. Seems like we 147 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: got it really figured out. We looked it up, and 148 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: then uh, it's still gonna be one of those words 149 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:14,440 Speaker 1: where you're like, yeah, racketeering. I don't I don't wanna, Yeah, 150 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:19,400 Speaker 1: I know, I just like I'm like, who man, that racketeering? Um? 151 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:22,360 Speaker 1: So we also got an email from a guy. It's 152 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 1: like like poaching takes different form and these guys are 153 00:10:24,320 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 1: obviously professional like a holes, right, But we got an 154 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,120 Speaker 1: email from a guy recently. The guy like he got 155 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 1: in trouble or he thought he was gonna be in trouble. 156 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:33,719 Speaker 1: So he's in an area we can only shoot a buck, 157 00:10:33,760 --> 00:10:37,560 Speaker 1: and he accidentally shoots an analyst. Deer self calls up 158 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 1: and self reports. So the game warrings like I'll come over. 159 00:10:41,320 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: So he's he thinks real fast and he's like, how 160 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,640 Speaker 1: can I make this look as good as possible? So 161 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: he said he like dresses the deer skins. It scrubs 162 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:52,079 Speaker 1: it down real good. So when the game warding walks 163 00:10:52,080 --> 00:10:55,160 Speaker 1: and it's like ready to present and the game warding 164 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:56,920 Speaker 1: comes in, he's so pleased with the thing. The guys 165 00:10:56,920 --> 00:11:00,720 Speaker 1: don't even get a fine nice Yeah, you like played 166 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 1: it right. Reporting. We're always they advocating on self reporting. 167 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,880 Speaker 1: We get cool stories about people that do self report. 168 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 1: And when I'm not getting in any kind of trouble, 169 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,720 Speaker 1: Um cayl, can you break down? Can you talk about 170 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:17,959 Speaker 1: the Lazarus species that you just fished for? Yeah? Uh, 171 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,079 Speaker 1: hunting cutthroat trout around Pyramid Laic. Anybody ever been over 172 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 1: there earlier? Four four people brought this up to me earlier, 173 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: like asking if I knew about it. There's a couple 174 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 1: of dudes in this room and are doing way better 175 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 1: than then we were doing. How many people have fished this? 176 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: What's the lake? Pyramid? Pyramid? Like everybody everybody fish very 177 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 1: well known, but this, uh I did see like as 178 00:11:47,320 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: far as like the lazarous effects. So Lazarus rose from 179 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:55,800 Speaker 1: the dead. Jesus resurrected Lazarus after four dass. This is 180 00:11:55,800 --> 00:12:00,000 Speaker 1: in the good book, the Book of John. I believe um. 181 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: And and now it gets like lumped into the scientific term. 182 00:12:06,200 --> 00:12:12,199 Speaker 1: It's called um Lazarus tax on. When something disappears from 183 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 1: the archaeological record, no not archaeological, uh goes extinct? Do 184 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: you think it went extinct? But it wasn't. And then 185 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 1: all of a sudden it pops back back up, like 186 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: the seal camp right, like armored fish. Um. That one 187 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:28,679 Speaker 1: was rediscovered in the fish market in Africa, right, that's 188 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:33,240 Speaker 1: where everything gets rediscovered, like that fit. That's interesting fish 189 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 1: because what they realized they everyone thought it was extinct, 190 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,680 Speaker 1: or the scientific community thought that fish was extinct. How 191 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:41,959 Speaker 1: do you say it? And I know Cela Camp, Cela Camp, 192 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 1: and the winds up that it was that they a 193 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,559 Speaker 1: guy discovers it in the fish market and they were 194 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,800 Speaker 1: using the scales you don't need, like get those shitty 195 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: little tubes to patch tires and grocery stores. And it's 196 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:58,000 Speaker 1: got the tin that comes off, the lid that comes off, 197 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:02,080 Speaker 1: and it's got a scratchy on it your bike tube. 198 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: They would use that fish as scale at tire shops 199 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:13,480 Speaker 1: two rough up the rubber for patching, and so they're 200 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,559 Speaker 1: using it for that and the rest of the world 201 00:13:15,559 --> 00:13:21,599 Speaker 1: thinks that they don't exist anymore. Oh the tire fish. Yeah. 202 00:13:22,120 --> 00:13:27,479 Speaker 1: And then uh, the black footed ferret was a Lazarus species. Yeah. 203 00:13:27,640 --> 00:13:31,400 Speaker 1: Everybody thought they were extrapated from the landscape. And then 204 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, it's like, oh, yeah, look what 205 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: I ran over. So what happened in here mid lake? Okay, 206 00:13:37,000 --> 00:13:44,360 Speaker 1: So two strains of color um. One was kind of 207 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,880 Speaker 1: the river cutthroat. One was the lake cutthroat, very much 208 00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: paraphrasing here um. But there's this pilot point strain of cutthroat, 209 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: which is like the big big dogs pilot peak and 210 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: thank you. And that is so they found like bone 211 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: fragments where they estimated that these fish got up to 212 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,839 Speaker 1: like eighty pounds cutthroat. Um, Well, I just cut throat 213 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: in the world, and uh, they market fish those things, 214 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 1: ship them all over the country at one point, but 215 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: fed you know, the big California gold rush, uh, giant 216 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: cutthroat going from Pyramid Lake down to San Francisco, and 217 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: then in nine biologists is out on a ranch, so 218 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,080 Speaker 1: they wipe them out or presumably wipe them out, presumably 219 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:46,560 Speaker 1: wiped out biologists out on this uh private cattle ranch, 220 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: private ground. And um, it's like, boy, this fish looks odd. 221 00:14:51,840 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: This is a different looking cutthroat. Were you just doing 222 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: a little nod you're doing a little nod towards private 223 00:14:57,520 --> 00:15:09,600 Speaker 1: lands conservation? Yes, I caught that. Yeah, thank you, I thought. Yeah. Um, 224 00:15:09,640 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: and uh, it takes five of these fish, takes them 225 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: in the lab. Holy cow, this is our extinct cut 226 00:15:17,840 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 1: throat trout. Um. And they were able to resurrect raise 227 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: from the dead, this uh hunting cut throat trout. Now 228 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: they're there are today. Yeah, I caught one. How big? 229 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,600 Speaker 1: Like she'llmove your hands? How big? Uh? The one I 230 00:15:35,640 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: caught was probably about somewhere in here. Seriously. Yeah, but 231 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: you were with the dude that caught a toad. Oh yeah, 232 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:50,880 Speaker 1: and that thing was like hitting probably probably Yeah. When 233 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 1: we we did away, it was eighteen pounds and guys 234 00:15:55,680 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: fish them off step ladders. Yes, that just doesn't like 235 00:16:01,160 --> 00:16:04,640 Speaker 1: it is. I don't just like it. I don't dislike it. 236 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: I like it, but I just it's a hard dude. 237 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:09,440 Speaker 1: This is like a full Michigan thing. You would love 238 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,080 Speaker 1: it is. These are like the race cars, like the 239 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 1: souped up race cars of step ladders. Are dudes drinking beer? 240 00:16:16,120 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 1: Are dudes drinking beer caddies? There's neck caddies. There's bass 241 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,800 Speaker 1: seats on top of step ladders. So you go down 242 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: to the to the ramp, launch whatever, what have you? 243 00:16:29,840 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: The access point and dudes walking down the beach with 244 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: a ladder and a fish rode. Yea, did you do 245 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 1: this on a ladder? Yes? Did you wear a life vest? 246 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: I did not? I did get bucked off though, yeah? 247 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:47,400 Speaker 1: Doesname it for a little diving board on the end. 248 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:52,360 Speaker 1: There's a little wave action, a little floaty floaty arms. Yeah, bomit. 249 00:16:52,400 --> 00:16:56,560 Speaker 1: You're sinking the legs into the mud, yes, yea. And 250 00:16:57,480 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to get up fish? Are you just trying 251 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 1: to get up? Clear the water? Well a couple of 252 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: things like getting clear the water saves you from like 253 00:17:04,400 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 1: totally freezing your ass off and then um, yeah, you 254 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: know if the water clarities. I did see a couple 255 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: of fish like cruise and eat some midges off the surface, 256 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:18,919 Speaker 1: which was awesome. It's like a seven pound cutthroat eating 257 00:17:18,920 --> 00:17:21,399 Speaker 1: the dry fly off the surface was But you're just 258 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:25,240 Speaker 1: bobber fishing. Oh, full bobber fishing. Yeah, I couldn't be 259 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: called anything else. What do you mean a bober could 260 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:29,280 Speaker 1: we could be called a strike indicator. I've heard it 261 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,800 Speaker 1: call him. Well, it's only a strike indicator when there's 262 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: a strike Okay, the rest of the time, bob. Yeah, 263 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I always struggle with that because 264 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:42,639 Speaker 1: we used to fish them all the time, and we 265 00:17:42,720 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: call them like bobber felt reductive. Yeah, it does. Strike 266 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:51,480 Speaker 1: indicator felt pretentious, so we took to call them floats, 267 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 1: which felt like there's gonna be some combination like bob 268 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: indicator or something like that. Yeah, he's like, you're fishing 269 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: to float, you know. It's like you're not dressing it up. 270 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,040 Speaker 1: But they do not act. It's not like your kids 271 00:18:02,080 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: zep Co Rod. Yeah, not the dog on zep Co 272 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 1: gets people fishing. Uh. And then talk about the dude 273 00:18:11,320 --> 00:18:15,680 Speaker 1: you met. Oh yeah, man said my new best friend 274 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 1: wear this no no, uh, super cool old cager but 275 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 1: he kind of he's got one of he's souped up, 276 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, sports car type step ladders. It's got easy 277 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 1: even got wheels. Sorry, this is a six ft step ladder. 278 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,600 Speaker 1: What what are the wheels doing? Well, he's an older dude, 279 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: so the wheels make it easier for him to like 280 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:46,159 Speaker 1: drag his ladder down the beach. And I had I 281 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,160 Speaker 1: was freezing, so I had gone back to the beach 282 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: to do some some walking and uh and he kind 283 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: of parked his ladder, you know, twenty to the left 284 00:18:56,720 --> 00:19:00,639 Speaker 1: of my ladder. What's like when you put a ladder 285 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: up how much? How much? The way it was explaining 286 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,720 Speaker 1: me is like, you want, you know, thirty ft would 287 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,639 Speaker 1: be great, but a lot of guys just fish fish 288 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:14,879 Speaker 1: closer together for the bullshit and you know, sladder the 289 00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:19,439 Speaker 1: ladder conversation that's going up there. Yeah, And uh so 290 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: I went out there to grab my ladder and drag 291 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: it back in. And I was actually gonna go like 292 00:19:24,760 --> 00:19:28,800 Speaker 1: prospect some some new beach and Joe is like, what 293 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,880 Speaker 1: are you doing? He's like, am I too close to you? 294 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: You want me to move? He's like, no, I'm just 295 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:37,560 Speaker 1: gonna take He's like I'll move, Like, no, man, I'm 296 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:40,119 Speaker 1: gonna just drag I've been standing out here for like 297 00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 1: three hours. Well you should get back on there and 298 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: stand on there a little bit longer. He's like, and 299 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: I'll tell you another thing. I have no idea why 300 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,360 Speaker 1: those people are cast in as far as they are. 301 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: The fish aren't out that far. The fish are right here. 302 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,960 Speaker 1: He's like, I've already missed two in the time it 303 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: took you to walk out here. I'm like, I can't 304 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: argue with that. He's like, seriously, stand up there, just 305 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: wait it out a little bit. He's like, the big 306 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 1: ones are gonna start coming out. And about six minutes later, 307 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:17,199 Speaker 1: he's got an eighteen pound cutthroat. Yeah. And this guy was, 308 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,960 Speaker 1: I mean, it was just amazing, right, this is like 309 00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: his spot. I'm like, oh, you come out here often 310 00:20:22,280 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 1: every week day for twenty years. Oh huh, Like I'm 311 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 1: from Montana. Uh, I really dedicated myself to this for 312 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: six hours. Um, and uh yeah, I mean he was 313 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: just phenomenal. He's like, yeah, he's like, here's my flies. 314 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:48,440 Speaker 1: Check him out. He's like, guarantee it's the same fly 315 00:20:48,520 --> 00:20:51,600 Speaker 1: as you're using. And he just had like this, I'll 316 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 1: help you out as much as as I can, and 317 00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 1: there's still no way you're gonna be as good as 318 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:59,879 Speaker 1: I am at this. So it was just it was 319 00:21:00,040 --> 00:21:05,800 Speaker 1: awesome like this, it's phenomenal. Yeah. Yeah, that that go 320 00:21:05,960 --> 00:21:09,679 Speaker 1: against uh the John gear Rock maxim that I like 321 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 1: to quote is that when it comes to fishing, there's 322 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:16,000 Speaker 1: the people you're with and then the assholes. Oh now, 323 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,080 Speaker 1: and I'd be just layed at myself and everybody in 324 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:22,160 Speaker 1: this room if I wasn't like when I heard this 325 00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:27,119 Speaker 1: like step ladder with wheels on it coming down the 326 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:32,840 Speaker 1: Rocky Beach, I wasn't kind of like, is this jackass? Yeah? 327 00:21:33,080 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: But it turns out, Uh, super nice guy? Um did it? 328 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: I mean, explain everything? He's like, Nope, those bugs don't 329 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 1: exist here. Those bugs don't exist here. This is what 330 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: happens in this lake. This is how cold the water is. Um, 331 00:21:50,640 --> 00:21:53,479 Speaker 1: this is exactly why I wasn't standing down here freezing 332 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: my ass off all day and why I came down 333 00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:58,960 Speaker 1: right now and just like went through the whole thing. 334 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: Was like trailhead diplomacy is ladder diplomacy, step ladders, step ladlomacy. Yeah, 335 00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 1: be like Joe, good dude. Uh, what'd you guys take? 336 00:22:10,520 --> 00:22:12,600 Speaker 1: Someone wrote in about this, what's you guys take on 337 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:19,479 Speaker 1: the habit of the practice of naming your rifle? This 338 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:24,359 Speaker 1: guy is observing that he thinks it's extremely childish. Really, 339 00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:28,280 Speaker 1: I think Daniel Boon. I think Daniel Boone. I'm not 340 00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 1: mistaken his what's called tick liquor? Tick liquor. That's yeah, 341 00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 1: that's one letter away from offensive. Maybe it's just got 342 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: spelled wrong. Childish. Yeah, Since then, historians have been baffled 343 00:22:48,960 --> 00:23:01,040 Speaker 1: by what. You can't lick a tick too small? These 344 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: things get out of hand quick. Who do want someone 345 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: licking your tick? I've never named one, but you know what, 346 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: my my my halibate rod has a name, but it 347 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: came with the name. The guy that made my halibate 348 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: rod named it the Widowmaker, which is like weird because 349 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,119 Speaker 1: you don't think of like when you catch a halibit 350 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: that you've now like there's another one down there, like 351 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: all bumed that you caught that one. I was gonna 352 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:35,280 Speaker 1: go up, How do you ever talk to it? I 353 00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: feel like that's where it gets weird. You're like talking 354 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,280 Speaker 1: to it using its name. No, and I do it 355 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:41,320 Speaker 1: like kind of ironically when I say I'm gonna grab 356 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: the Widowmaker. Yeah, but I think if you start talking 357 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,199 Speaker 1: to it, that's where it gets kind of kind of 358 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:48,040 Speaker 1: caught bullshit on that because I've been fishing with you 359 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: and you're like, no, no, no, widowmaker's mind. They're they're 360 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:59,800 Speaker 1: widowmaker will get him. You fish confidently, and that is 361 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: the widowmaker. Uh you honest? You have named a rifall Yeah, several? Yeah, 362 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,240 Speaker 1: like what kind of like you know what call it is? 363 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:12,800 Speaker 1: What it is? I do that as well, like you know, 364 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:18,840 Speaker 1: like my one gun or whatever. The most recent one 365 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,239 Speaker 1: that had a name that sucked for a while, I 366 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:22,920 Speaker 1: sold it, but it was a three hundred short mag. 367 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:25,720 Speaker 1: The first one that I owned is soon after they 368 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 1: came out. I got caught up in the hype of 369 00:24:28,119 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 1: three D short mag, did I? Yeah, it's a great 370 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 1: round And it was all black synthetic gun and had 371 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:38,880 Speaker 1: the steel on it was black. Um, you're not gonna 372 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: say something real offensive, are you. But it was the 373 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 1: same time, come on, it was the same time that 374 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 1: killed Bill. Those movies were coming out, very good movies. 375 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: You remember the scene where I can't remember the name 376 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: the snake and handel hand on, Yeah and yes, and 377 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,679 Speaker 1: the actor that opens up the briefcase full of money 378 00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: is Michael something. Yeah, thank you Mattson And some cinophiles 379 00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: out there tonight. He gets bit right, and he gets 380 00:25:21,480 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 1: bit again. And and as he's getting bit and struggling 381 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,680 Speaker 1: on the floor, and as the Black mom is poison 382 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: is getting to him, they don't. They don't. Hannah proceeds 383 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,280 Speaker 1: to read like a little know that she has about 384 00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:37,480 Speaker 1: like how venomous the black Mama is and how a 385 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:42,320 Speaker 1: strike anywhere to the upper torso will cause imminent death. 386 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:45,720 Speaker 1: I believe it's how she says it. Well, man, that's 387 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:55,199 Speaker 1: kind of like my so. I called it the ye 388 00:25:56,280 --> 00:25:58,159 Speaker 1: you're gonna say. My guy's name is Darryll Hanny. You 389 00:25:58,160 --> 00:26:05,000 Speaker 1: ever take so I named it Daryl d h d 390 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: h Um. Yeah, So black Mama was a name, Yeah, 391 00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 1: black Mama. Yeah. He stacked him up. Man worked for 392 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,359 Speaker 1: this outfitter. Uh. And he had one named rifle. It 393 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:24,280 Speaker 1: was a three mag whin Chester mag the better of 394 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: the two if you're comparing him. Uh and uh. That 395 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:38,120 Speaker 1: rifle's name was Birdie, and it was its own entity. 396 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: And he'd always be like, yeah, old Birdie and I 397 00:26:40,720 --> 00:26:45,439 Speaker 1: were out, and it's like and I turned to Birdie. 398 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:51,440 Speaker 1: Was was Birdie? Was Bertie ever out? But he wasn't out? 399 00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: I was back home with Birdie. But I've never found 400 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: like an approach, you know, impressionable kid working for your 401 00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:06,639 Speaker 1: first outfitter. I was like, yeah, I'm gonna name Yeah, 402 00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,720 Speaker 1: I just can't. Never never clicked for me. I feel 403 00:27:09,720 --> 00:27:11,919 Speaker 1: like such a phony man. There's a lot of like 404 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: Dolores's and Louise. You hear that. There's like some common 405 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:20,920 Speaker 1: names for lady names for rifles. Yeah, like old Betsy. 406 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 1: That's a good one. But you've never named one. Never 407 00:27:23,119 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: named just since since you guys can't really add to 408 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: the conversation here, let me tell you about another. But 409 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: please too. But don't think that me not having named 410 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,560 Speaker 1: one means that I don't have the authority to speak 411 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:41,080 Speaker 1: about this. I'm thinking. I'm thinking just that. I'm thinking 412 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:45,400 Speaker 1: just that. Now, my good friend Scottie of Nebraska, he's 413 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,159 Speaker 1: not giving away this. It's a shotgun. It's not a rifle. 414 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640 Speaker 1: But he's not given away the shotgun because it got 415 00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: to be too much for him. Because he got blown 416 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: up in Afghanistan in the concussion that he received there. 417 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: He couldn't take shooting big Was he a contractor nefgamest? 418 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:06,119 Speaker 1: That's right, Yeah, drove big rigs and yeah, I got 419 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,119 Speaker 1: hit by I d but not as he wasn't a 420 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:13,639 Speaker 1: service member, right, No, Um, but he has. And now 421 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 1: another friend of mine has the shotgun and it's a 422 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:24,600 Speaker 1: single barrel ten y and um its name is thunder Breath. 423 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: But you don't tell the story without doing his voice. 424 00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: Saudi's from Maine. And uh, you guys have heard a 425 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 1: lot of pronunciations of Janus over the years. And Scotty says, 426 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: you want that took he was gonna get away. That's 427 00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 1: why I had to shoot him for you. This is 428 00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 1: how my very first ever turkey that I got went. 429 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:59,760 Speaker 1: Scotty was nice enough to have me out. Uh, And 430 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 1: I'd hunted for three or four days on my own 431 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: and uh, at that point I couldn't tell a hand, 432 00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:08,640 Speaker 1: you know, apart from a gobbler. And so the last 433 00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: one he takes me out and uh, we're doing a 434 00:29:11,320 --> 00:29:13,000 Speaker 1: little Uh. He took me to some ground that we 435 00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 1: hadn't haunted, some private ground friend of his. And when 436 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: we're cruising in his uh pickup truck, and we kind 437 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:21,480 Speaker 1: of come over this role and this is we're coming 438 00:29:21,520 --> 00:29:24,040 Speaker 1: over the role. Scotty's looking over the dash and just 439 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,360 Speaker 1: by the time I see him. He just he's a 440 00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 1: he's got a um sticksheft pickup truck and it goes 441 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: into neutral and that truck just just comes back down 442 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 1: over the role. I'm like, oh man, it must have 443 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 1: been something. I didn't even see the birds, you know. 444 00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: I'm like, all right, it's on now. So he's like, 445 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: come on, they didn't see us. So we hop back, Doc, 446 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 1: come on, you want to let's go, and we go 447 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: sneaking up this little ups this little knob and uh. 448 00:29:50,440 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: We get about ten feet from where you could actually 449 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: see over and he's like, stay down, they're gonna see you, 450 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,640 Speaker 1: and he goes on up there. Come on, man, I 451 00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:02,000 Speaker 1: feel I'm pretty slick in the woods, you know. And 452 00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,760 Speaker 1: he's just like, stay back, stay back. So anyway, we 453 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: peek over and he comes back and he's like, let's go, 454 00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: and we just do this like full on army commando, 455 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: run around basically just circumnavigate this I don't know terrain feature. 456 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,440 Speaker 1: And we're getting down into a cannone creek and circle 457 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: around and pop up near a windmill and we go 458 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: belly crawling next to the windmill to the water tank 459 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,640 Speaker 1: and they've gotten out to I don't know forty yards 460 00:30:25,720 --> 00:30:30,680 Speaker 1: or so, and he's like, I can't remember what he said, 461 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: you want to shoot that bird? So it's listen, man, 462 00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: you're the only dude worse that accents and neat that 463 00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:44,600 Speaker 1: doesn't sound like everything is like, that's like sound like 464 00:30:44,640 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: maybe like a pilgroom or something. I don't want to 465 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: you have a blunderbuss. Yeah, my mind is like Americans 466 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:57,239 Speaker 1: and everyone else speaks kind of like a Irish. You're Australians. Like, so, 467 00:30:57,440 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: I shoot the turkey and it's flopping over doing a 468 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: dead turkey should do. Instead, he just like puffs up 469 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: and all his feathers just fly everywhere. Obviously body shot him, 470 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: you know, And I'm still just like kind of calculating 471 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,240 Speaker 1: everything in my head, like what I should do next, 472 00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: and you know, putting the safety off on the shotgun, 473 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:17,400 Speaker 1: and the bird takes flight and he's now gone another 474 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: twenty or thirty yards and he's in the air and 475 00:31:19,960 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: Scottie and Thunderbreath just jump out in front of me 476 00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:25,600 Speaker 1: and pow And I've never seen a turkey do this 477 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: this day, but at like seventy yards, a turkey just 478 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,680 Speaker 1: did like a somersault through the air and then he said, 479 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: you want to go get your bood. So I walk 480 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 1: over there and the first still flapping and I'm walking 481 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:41,760 Speaker 1: back and it's, you know, sperming and beating me and 482 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,240 Speaker 1: I'm trying to stretch its neck and I'm getting beat 483 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,680 Speaker 1: up by the turkey. And you want to give me 484 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,280 Speaker 1: that bud? And he grabs it and goes and throws it, 485 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,160 Speaker 1: you know, and then it finally lays there Dennis can 486 00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 1: be and then again you want to get your bood. 487 00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: That's how I got my first turkey. Yeah, if you 488 00:32:04,200 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 1: bring it up, because the guy recently wrote in um, 489 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:10,760 Speaker 1: like you wing shot the turkey. But guys like why 490 00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: is it uh oh, like, why is it so bad 491 00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:18,080 Speaker 1: to shoot a duck on the water or a pheasant 492 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,080 Speaker 1: on the ground, but it's okay to shoot a turkey 493 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 1: on the ground and it's bad to shoot one flying? 494 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:33,480 Speaker 1: Like who came up with that good question? Steve? Well, 495 00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: the the flying turkey, I think you have a way 496 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 1: higher probability of a body shot. He's like the turkey 497 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:42,920 Speaker 1: on the ground, it's you know, he got a lot 498 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,719 Speaker 1: of necks there. Yeah, because this this guy's main he 499 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,920 Speaker 1: was mainly exploring, like the morality or the ethics of 500 00:32:49,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: you know, like shooting ducks on the water. Yeah, but 501 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: you're talking to a dude, shoot a duck on the water. 502 00:32:57,080 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't have a problem with it either. I've never 503 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,600 Speaker 1: had a problem with it. I mean, if you were 504 00:33:01,640 --> 00:33:06,440 Speaker 1: to ask the duck, right, yeah, I mean he's like, 505 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 1: I don't really want to be shot in the air either, 506 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,440 Speaker 1: to be honest with you, you know, I mean it's like, like, 507 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,880 Speaker 1: who are you? Who are you? Ducks can't talk? We 508 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 1: know that, don't don't. Some water fowlers say that because 509 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: when they're on the water and their wings are folding 510 00:33:21,800 --> 00:33:24,640 Speaker 1: and they sort of protects the water is protecting some 511 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: of their you know, brass, the wings are protecting some 512 00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: of their I'm a water fowler and I say that, 513 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know if that's widely accepted. But yeah, 514 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: I think that it's. Well, how many shells are Like 515 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 1: when you say the saying like, like shooting ducks on 516 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:39,840 Speaker 1: the water, you might say, like, you mean like they 517 00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:44,000 Speaker 1: get up and fly away? Because yeah, I think there's 518 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,520 Speaker 1: a I think there's a that's a part of it. 519 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: Have you ever trained your shotgun on turkey and the 520 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: roost and thought about it. Yeah, yeah, I have. We 521 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,680 Speaker 1: thought about it hard one time, and we got me 522 00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: and my brother in the dark, crawled in under a 523 00:33:57,160 --> 00:34:01,640 Speaker 1: roost treat one time, and we're looking up very struggling 524 00:34:01,640 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 1: with this very question, and you could seem goblin up there. 525 00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 1: I've had turkeys fly over my head at dusk, and 526 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 1: as as they're flying over, I'm thinking, I know where 527 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:14,040 Speaker 1: he's going. I can probably get him. But just never 528 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: do you Just I can't can't bring myself to shoot 529 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: a turkey on on the roost. We're just reading that 530 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 1: study the other day. Were they in Colorado speaking to 531 00:34:23,800 --> 00:34:29,359 Speaker 1: roosting in Colorado. They were doing this thing with Miriam's turkeys. Um, 532 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 1: what was the percentage of time that a gobbler will 533 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: roost in the same tree? Do you remember this? I 534 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 1: do remember it, but the number escapes me very low. 535 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 1: But the biggest thing is they tend to like you 536 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: think they oh, they're going that same tree every night. 537 00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:50,240 Speaker 1: It was less than twenty of the time a gobbler 538 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:52,520 Speaker 1: or roost in the same tree, and on average they 539 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,480 Speaker 1: roost one thousand yards away from where they roosted the knight. 540 00:34:56,239 --> 00:35:02,160 Speaker 1: And that number increases during turkey season. They're in Colorado 541 00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: in this study you know, in this study area on 542 00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:10,840 Speaker 1: Miriam's in Colorado. Um best post apocalyptic gun guy was 543 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:18,520 Speaker 1: saying that he the guy was saying that this guy 544 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 1: wrote in him and his buddy like have this argument 545 00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 1: the amount of energy to put people put into imagining, 546 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:32,880 Speaker 1: like lusting for a post apocalyptic world certain types certain 547 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:36,680 Speaker 1: types of people. Can we just say what we wouldn't use? Hell, 548 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:38,160 Speaker 1: let me give you the two He's kind of laying 549 00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,880 Speaker 1: it out, like the two things. There's this he his 550 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,680 Speaker 1: buddy has this idea that you'd want to be a 551 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,759 Speaker 1: twenty two, so you have all this ammunition because you're 552 00:35:46,800 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 1: gonna be dealing with all these dogs that are attacking 553 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:52,560 Speaker 1: you all the time. And the other guy feels like 554 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,360 Speaker 1: there's gonna be a lot more wolves. The other guys like, 555 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,759 Speaker 1: there's a lot more wolves and grizzlies. There'll be a 556 00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,759 Speaker 1: lot of wolves and grizzlies, and so you need a 557 00:36:01,880 --> 00:36:05,120 Speaker 1: high cat like a large rifle to deal with the 558 00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:09,799 Speaker 1: post apocalyptic world. Is there zombies? Let's just say no. 559 00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: Let's say no. Let's say no, I'm just anti crossbow. 560 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,920 Speaker 1: I'm the anti crossbow in the post apocalyptic the world. 561 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:18,399 Speaker 1: There's a certain show where there's a fellow drungey fellow 562 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: with a mullet runs around shooting things in the head 563 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:22,400 Speaker 1: with a crossbow, and like, come on, man, you're not 564 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:25,759 Speaker 1: gonna run. You're not running crossbow. You'll be eating alive 565 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: while you're trying to cock it to get the next one. 566 00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,160 Speaker 1: That's a fact. So mean in days are not in 567 00:36:30,200 --> 00:36:31,600 Speaker 1: a lot of days are not even legal, So you 568 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:33,080 Speaker 1: have to cope with that. You have to cope with that. 569 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: You'd be a poacher and and you'd be dead because 570 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,719 Speaker 1: you'll be cocking your crossbow. You're eating alive. I'm just 571 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,040 Speaker 1: gonna sit back, see what happens in California, and then 572 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:52,120 Speaker 1: I'll make my decision. Do you got any input? And 573 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,279 Speaker 1: you know, I like, why is it so hard to 574 00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:58,200 Speaker 1: entertain the idea for you? I mean, it just seems 575 00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: like so easy post apocalyptic world. Yet I am still alive. 576 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,920 Speaker 1: He game whatever this is coming from the guy red 577 00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: Ryder bb gun, I know I have a ton of 578 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,359 Speaker 1: I have a ton of thoughts about this, and it's 579 00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:18,160 Speaker 1: not about slash a lot of funds, but I'd like 580 00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: to do it like the full boat. I just want 581 00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,719 Speaker 1: to suck my gun. I like my vehicle. I'm get 582 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,520 Speaker 1: a van for sure, Like I'm gonna put like a 583 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,200 Speaker 1: you know, snowplow on the front. I got a lot 584 00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:28,839 Speaker 1: of things I think about, but just not the gun. 585 00:37:28,960 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: So I'd like to paint the entire picture if we could. 586 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: You know, what are you doing? Honest, you're sitting back 587 00:37:34,239 --> 00:37:36,480 Speaker 1: and doing what Just wait and see what happens here. 588 00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: First I figured this is gonna be ground zero where Yeah, 589 00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: and we'll probably still be covering out on the news 590 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,719 Speaker 1: in Montana. I'll be like, oh, that didn't work. That 591 00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: did you can? You can email over and ask what's 592 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:51,239 Speaker 1: been working out for everything? My thing about it and 593 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 1: we get like this question a lot, not a lot. 594 00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,239 Speaker 1: Somebody I'll be blogging right, somebody in California will be 595 00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,880 Speaker 1: belonging about like I figured, I knew it. I told 596 00:37:58,920 --> 00:38:01,360 Speaker 1: you so it was. It's crazy you still have the 597 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:05,399 Speaker 1: internet in the post apocalyptic world. Yeah. Still, that's where 598 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,440 Speaker 1: I wind up having problems with the thing because it 599 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 1: is this. It's so I think we're coming out of 600 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:12,000 Speaker 1: it now. But it was really like cool for a 601 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 1: while to like be ready for the apocalypse, But then 602 00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: you're banking on you're like spending. There's people that spend 603 00:38:18,680 --> 00:38:23,200 Speaker 1: sort of their entire lives getting ready for something that 604 00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: by definition means most people are gone. And there's this 605 00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,719 Speaker 1: assumption that you're not. But the other thing is that 606 00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,880 Speaker 1: you can find examples all around the world have collapsed societies. 607 00:38:34,280 --> 00:38:37,239 Speaker 1: And the first thing that goes into collapse society is wildlife. 608 00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: Right like you go to the Democratic Republic Congo, or 609 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,360 Speaker 1: go to Syria, I mean, wildlife vanishes. So we have 610 00:38:44,440 --> 00:38:50,000 Speaker 1: this like fictitious idea that that society will collapse, You'll 611 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,359 Speaker 1: be alive, everyone will be dead, and we'll have wildlife, 612 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,680 Speaker 1: when in fact, a stateless society almost like it's almost 613 00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: like by definition, stateless societies lose their animals, like the animal, 614 00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:03,000 Speaker 1: the wildlife we have we only have because we decided 615 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,759 Speaker 1: to have it. It's not here accidentally. And with the 616 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 1: with the with all the regulatory structure and anything of 617 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:16,919 Speaker 1: that that, like the imposes restraint removed, that's gone too. 618 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:22,120 Speaker 1: So the best you really just buzz killed the apocalypse. 619 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:27,680 Speaker 1: It was way cool to that to that monologue. Yeah, 620 00:39:28,520 --> 00:39:32,680 Speaker 1: it's big fun gonna be there. Oh yeah, speaking of 621 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,840 Speaker 1: we're not supposed to talk about that speaking of what 622 00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:41,000 Speaker 1: like a big weird state. You guys living um has 623 00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: anybody here seem a big Foot? I'm not gonna I'm 624 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,880 Speaker 1: not gonna say a word. Yeah, yeah, I don't. I 625 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:52,880 Speaker 1: won't talk about it. I'm it's curious anyone seem because 626 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,840 Speaker 1: this is like, this is a lot of bigfoot country 627 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 1: north of here. I think you have said ye like 628 00:39:58,120 --> 00:40:02,040 Speaker 1: they yeah, sure there is. Yeah, you look on an 629 00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:04,560 Speaker 1: onyx match, you can see that one area that's where 630 00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: they are. I want I want to grab a subject 631 00:40:06,680 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: that comes all the way from Norway. The guy from 632 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 1: Norway wrote in him and his wife were out hunting 633 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 1: black grouse, which we had to look up to verify 634 00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:16,360 Speaker 1: was a bird. It's a bird, black grouse. It looks 635 00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:19,840 Speaker 1: it's got the red eye comb. What's that whiskey or 636 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: scotch with the red grouse on it? Which is a 637 00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: ptarm again basically famous grouse, famous grouse. It's got a 638 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: red eye comb like that grouse. But it's a black grouse. 639 00:40:30,400 --> 00:40:33,440 Speaker 1: That's not that capper Kyle Kelly, which is the thing 640 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: I most want to hunt. Yeah, yeah, someday in my 641 00:40:36,719 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: life I'd like to do that. I should contact this 642 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 1: Norway fella. So he's out with his wife and they 643 00:40:42,920 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: jump a black grouse and it heads off. He's all 644 00:40:48,920 --> 00:40:51,359 Speaker 1: whacked out. He says he went a hundred meters by wish, 645 00:40:51,400 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: he means a hundred yards roughly. He goes. So he 646 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,960 Speaker 1: strikes off and him and his wife march in the 647 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,239 Speaker 1: direction it went to go catch it, and it's wherever 648 00:41:05,320 --> 00:41:08,359 Speaker 1: it landed. And they get there and before he can 649 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:13,239 Speaker 1: get there, a goss hawk kills the grouse. It's just 650 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,479 Speaker 1: laying their warm dad bird takes off and he pulled. 651 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,600 Speaker 1: He even said that this he presented the email. The 652 00:41:18,600 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 1: subject line is a moral question from Norway. Oh and 653 00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: you point out that I want to tell you this, 654 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: your honest blouch where he's from, is paying So you 655 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,400 Speaker 1: in a hunting story in Norway. Apparently you're like, and 656 00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:39,960 Speaker 1: I raised my rifle and paying pa like it doesn't 657 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:45,160 Speaker 1: that's very a feat. Yeah, uh so, so he never 658 00:41:45,239 --> 00:41:53,720 Speaker 1: gets to paying paying. Is it immoral to take to steal? 659 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: To steal the bird from the bird. His wife stole 660 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:03,359 Speaker 1: the black growls from the gosshawk because she felt, well, 661 00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:08,719 Speaker 1: I kicked it up. She has an assist at the 662 00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:15,880 Speaker 1: very least she should. She should have just taken one lobe. 663 00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:22,680 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, a wing, No take it. You have 664 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,560 Speaker 1: hands and feet the bird it doesn't have those taken 665 00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,680 Speaker 1: any It's just it's that you think you just like 666 00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,479 Speaker 1: exploit the bird. Yeah, I'm exploiting the bird. I would 667 00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:31,960 Speaker 1: not have touched There's no way I would have touched that. 668 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:35,719 Speaker 1: You have some like big bird respect, Like I just 669 00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,800 Speaker 1: feel like it's like, yeah, kind of, I feel like 670 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:41,200 Speaker 1: you've lost fair and square. Man. Put it this way. 671 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:44,120 Speaker 1: You kick up a bird and then it flies and 672 00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 1: often dis iss year paying like, yeah, what are you 673 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:50,839 Speaker 1: gonna go make the case? Are you gonna go make 674 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,759 Speaker 1: the case to that guy? Yeah? But I can talk 675 00:42:52,840 --> 00:42:56,360 Speaker 1: to that guy, like, listen, guy, you good. Good for you. 676 00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,880 Speaker 1: If you were a bird, i'd take it. You're a 677 00:43:01,000 --> 00:43:06,000 Speaker 1: small little you're a small little bird or smaller. Yeah, 678 00:43:08,680 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: similar story. No, I don't know this is similar. I 679 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,960 Speaker 1: can make this similar. We just got in the just 680 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 1: of the last un So the two thousand eight hunting season, 681 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: the guy who wrote us a letter drew a Utah 682 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 1: Henry Mountain. So there's a there's a buffalo herd in 683 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,000 Speaker 1: the Henry Mountains in Utah. So he draws a cow bison, 684 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,839 Speaker 1: Henry Mountains tag. They hunt their asses off and can't 685 00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,560 Speaker 1: find one. Oh, we met some people last night. They 686 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:40,120 Speaker 1: got too. No, but they hunted ten days before they 687 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,120 Speaker 1: found one. Yeah, there in this mountain range where they 688 00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,440 Speaker 1: give these tags out. I've applied for these tags in 689 00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:49,160 Speaker 1: the past. He was saying that the density, it's such 690 00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: a low density. It's one per four square miles. So 691 00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: they put in ten days and then he found they 692 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:00,840 Speaker 1: put in ten days before they found him, and it 693 00:44:00,920 --> 00:44:02,839 Speaker 1: was a woman. She had a tag and she got one. 694 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 1: But his other mud rights in that they're hunting and 695 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: they're not finding anything, but an all of a sudden, 696 00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:10,480 Speaker 1: his buddy is like, get over here, get over here, 697 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:13,920 Speaker 1: get over here. And he comes over and peers off 698 00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,800 Speaker 1: this rock ledge and there is so he has a 699 00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,480 Speaker 1: cow tag, a female tag, and there is what they 700 00:44:20,280 --> 00:44:26,640 Speaker 1: suspect to be a bull. Bet it down and they 701 00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:28,799 Speaker 1: observe it for a long time, and they're going by 702 00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,719 Speaker 1: the curvature of the horns and they're thinking it's a 703 00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,560 Speaker 1: it's a bull. So he can he can't get it, 704 00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:34,880 Speaker 1: and you watch it and watch it, watch it, and 705 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:37,439 Speaker 1: eventually they get to want and to make a cell 706 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:40,359 Speaker 1: phone video of it walking away. I don't Lord knows why. 707 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:41,839 Speaker 1: He doesn't explain why, but they want a cell phone 708 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 1: be able walking away, so they decided to try to 709 00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: spook it up, and they can't get it to spook 710 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:50,239 Speaker 1: and even throws a rock down there, and it won't 711 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:53,120 Speaker 1: get up. And they picked their way down there and 712 00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:58,359 Speaker 1: realize that it is stuck in a crack in the rocks. 713 00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,160 Speaker 1: It's like got his leg wedge and the rocks and 714 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: is laying there unable to move. They can stand up 715 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,520 Speaker 1: and struggle, but it's stuck. So they still think it's 716 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 1: a bowl. And they try prying and poking and digging 717 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,960 Speaker 1: and wrestling the thing out of there, but they don't 718 00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: want to get hurt by it, and they exhaust all 719 00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: the possibilities of trying to free this thing, and they're 720 00:45:21,239 --> 00:45:24,000 Speaker 1: getting ready to walk away when one of them finally 721 00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:25,520 Speaker 1: has a good I need to lift the tail up 722 00:45:28,080 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: and it's a cow, so paying and field tag. So 723 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: if you extend the goss hawk logic to an inanimate 724 00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:49,440 Speaker 1: object such as a rock, he took that rocks catch. 725 00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 1: But I would have done nothing different, Like I would 726 00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:59,400 Speaker 1: have absolutely done what he done. Yeah, I don't like it. 727 00:46:00,280 --> 00:46:03,279 Speaker 1: You don't like, but you kind of have to. What 728 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:07,840 Speaker 1: do you like about it? I just don't. It's not ideal. No, 729 00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:15,440 Speaker 1: it's not ideal. Yeah, I mean that's not what. Yeah, 730 00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:18,040 Speaker 1: you know. I I am very particular on my hunting 731 00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:20,000 Speaker 1: and I have like this idea of how a hunt 732 00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 1: should go and if it doesn't, like go out kind 733 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: of follow through on my big ideas. A lot of 734 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:29,920 Speaker 1: times I just don't pull the trigger. But that'd be 735 00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,400 Speaker 1: a hard one to if you were hungry, would be ideal? 736 00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that'd be queen mother. I don't think it 737 00:46:35,239 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 1: would be ideal. It'd be like it be on it. 738 00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:43,680 Speaker 1: You couldn't anticipate it. No, you can't anticipate it. And 739 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:46,200 Speaker 1: if you leave, you know what's going to perish? And 740 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:47,520 Speaker 1: you didn't, I mean not that you know. I believe 741 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,720 Speaker 1: when you treat recycling and all that, like nothing actually 742 00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,400 Speaker 1: goes to waste, right like out in that environment, it's 743 00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:55,120 Speaker 1: not it's not it will be consumed and write a 744 00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,439 Speaker 1: circle of life all that kind of stuff. But yeah, 745 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:02,000 Speaker 1: I would have absolutely, but it still was the first day. 746 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:06,040 Speaker 1: But also like were you like, man, I wonder like 747 00:47:06,120 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: how much struggling has this thing done, and has there's 748 00:47:09,080 --> 00:47:12,120 Speaker 1: been like is the meat going to be affected? Which 749 00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:14,399 Speaker 1: kind of is kind of like prick thinking at that point, 750 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:18,680 Speaker 1: it's like it's all about me. How's it selfish? Yeah? 751 00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960 Speaker 1: What would you done? Ni? Yeah? I was gonna say 752 00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000 Speaker 1: in both those instances that it would depend on how 753 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,319 Speaker 1: hungry you are, right, because if you're really hungry, sure 754 00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:28,480 Speaker 1: you're just gonna take the bird from the goss hock 755 00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,800 Speaker 1: and you're gonna kill the buffalo with its legs stuck. 756 00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:34,520 Speaker 1: But we don't ever have to face that question. But 757 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:37,399 Speaker 1: what would you have done? Just knowing what I told 758 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 1: you with the buffalo? No, and it was a weekend 759 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,960 Speaker 1: of the hunt and been tough hunt, probably would have 760 00:47:44,160 --> 00:47:48,439 Speaker 1: killed it for sure. Yeah, And then you know, people 761 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,040 Speaker 1: come more. You got like the skull on the shelf, 762 00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,120 Speaker 1: You're like, you see that and you tell them what happened? 763 00:47:53,360 --> 00:47:56,920 Speaker 1: That's right, You're like, I before I killed this bison, 764 00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:02,440 Speaker 1: I lifted its tail up. I was just thinking the 765 00:48:02,520 --> 00:48:04,560 Speaker 1: same thing, like you've kind even know what I was 766 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: looking for? Put your head up a bison's ass. Yeah, Yeah, 767 00:48:09,440 --> 00:48:14,400 Speaker 1: there's no going back after that. What you're taking that 768 00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 1: bison home? What was what was Larry's wife's name Emily. Emily. 769 00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:34,960 Speaker 1: That's right, Emily. She was wondering about this. What's that? Okay? 770 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:40,080 Speaker 1: Can I talk about it? Your question? Yeah, I'm just joking. 771 00:48:40,080 --> 00:48:43,680 Speaker 1: It wasn't Emily wonderness. Okay, there's a fella. Let's just say, 772 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:49,359 Speaker 1: let's just say there's a guy. He's a section. There's 773 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,320 Speaker 1: a guy that was wondering and this is this is like, 774 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,120 Speaker 1: this is a difficult thing to address. It's hard to 775 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:59,360 Speaker 1: bring up. Uh, you process an animal, okay, and you 776 00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,320 Speaker 1: got an animal, and there's a there's a smell to it, 777 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: and we're all familiar with um. Has one ever noticed 778 00:49:06,560 --> 00:49:13,200 Speaker 1: that after that, one might uh, one might pick sent 779 00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:16,920 Speaker 1: some of those same orders around their own flagelence or 780 00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: bobble movements. And he's proposed this. This individual has proposes 781 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: to family members. And some people think it's that sensation 782 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,479 Speaker 1: of when you put garlic between your toes and feel 783 00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:32,920 Speaker 1: like you can later taste it. Or is it just 784 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,359 Speaker 1: that it's a familiar smell and you tend to then 785 00:49:36,520 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 1: find that smell, you know, you recognize it in other areas. 786 00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,960 Speaker 1: I have no idea. This isn't something I've experienced, but 787 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: I do like to take all like I like to 788 00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:49,440 Speaker 1: take all things that get and and lay them out 789 00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: to be helpful to people. I'm genuinely confused. Ye. Can 790 00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:05,160 Speaker 1: we go back to the garlic and toes? Okay? If 791 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: you have you've never done this? What? No? What was garlic? Yeah? 792 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 1: You take peel and crush a peel and crush clover 793 00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:21,680 Speaker 1: garlic and then jam it between your toes and wait 794 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:29,720 Speaker 1: a while. I've had some boring nights. Wait a while, 795 00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:35,360 Speaker 1: and you will get to where you can taste the garlic, 796 00:50:37,640 --> 00:50:42,560 Speaker 1: or you can't but you think you can, and you've 797 00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 1: been smoking what It works so well that the trick 798 00:50:46,719 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 1: is this? You need you tell someone We've done this 799 00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,359 Speaker 1: at my house. You tell someone, Um, I'm gonna put 800 00:50:54,400 --> 00:51:00,120 Speaker 1: something between your toes, but don't look, and then after Wow, 801 00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: they'll be able to tell what it is. Dude, I 802 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:14,000 Speaker 1: wish you had some in your toes right now? Got 803 00:51:14,040 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 1: there in the crowd. We can not back to the Okay, 804 00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,120 Speaker 1: the guy you any you got any to add there? 805 00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,160 Speaker 1: Should we hit the actual question? Yeah? I mean if 806 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:28,320 Speaker 1: it's okay, Clara or whatever. Brad, you're not going on 807 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:32,239 Speaker 1: the question. I'm not clear. I'm not clearer person. A 808 00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: person observed he observed this phenomenon that that he experiences 809 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:42,000 Speaker 1: where if when he you know, I'm just gonna move on. 810 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: This is a psychosomatic we really get into. So a 811 00:51:48,600 --> 00:51:51,360 Speaker 1: twenty year old person wrote in, and he's dating and 812 00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:54,799 Speaker 1: using dating apps. There's nothing to do with the there's 813 00:51:54,840 --> 00:51:57,200 Speaker 1: nothing to do with the the different person's nothing to 814 00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,359 Speaker 1: do with this has nothing to do with gutting an 815 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:03,800 Speaker 1: animal and then feeling that it has affected the odor 816 00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,000 Speaker 1: of one's own flatulence. This is completely set off. The 817 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:11,040 Speaker 1: subject where a guy saying he's digging through the rubble 818 00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,080 Speaker 1: of the modern dating world on dating apps, and this 819 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: guy is one of those closeted hunter types and he 820 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 1: won't tell he won't tell women that he meets that 821 00:52:24,239 --> 00:52:30,960 Speaker 1: he hunts. Yeah, I don't even have the luxury. Well, 822 00:52:30,960 --> 00:52:32,719 Speaker 1: I don't have luxury. Got married. If I wasn't married, 823 00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:36,080 Speaker 1: I wouldn't have the luxury anyways. But like that's some bullshit, man, 824 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: get it together, man, closet, get it together of virtue? 825 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: Ye put it out there. Yeah, i'd say, not only 826 00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: do I haunt by a shoot ducks on the water. 827 00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:54,799 Speaker 1: Let me tell you a story about this goss hawk 828 00:52:54,920 --> 00:53:02,279 Speaker 1: that I know. I steal food from birds. I put 829 00:53:02,400 --> 00:53:12,879 Speaker 1: garlic between my toes, a fish off the ladder. Oh, 830 00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,240 Speaker 1: this is not a control. We're gonna have to adjust 831 00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: your tender profile tonight. We got what have you been? 832 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:22,920 Speaker 1: Have you been out there lately? No? I like how 833 00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:25,520 Speaker 1: you put it out. I think it's appropriate, Like I'm 834 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,719 Speaker 1: you're sifting through the rubble of how did you put it? 835 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:31,520 Speaker 1: That's what he how he put it. I'm a mid 836 00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:36,040 Speaker 1: late he doesn't know how damn old he is. He's 837 00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,200 Speaker 1: no wonder. He's like, this guy is like suffering from 838 00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:42,000 Speaker 1: some personal problems. I'm a mid to late year old 839 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: male sifting through the rubble that is the dating world. 840 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:49,320 Speaker 1: Well done. You know what if you were, if you 841 00:53:49,400 --> 00:53:52,040 Speaker 1: would come out and just be upfront about what kind 842 00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,960 Speaker 1: of feller you were, you might not be sifting through rubble. 843 00:53:55,000 --> 00:53:57,600 Speaker 1: You might be like climbing the tower. We talked about 844 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,399 Speaker 1: this in the office, about hunters only dot com where 845 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,120 Speaker 1: it would be like a dating site where it's hunters only. Yeah, 846 00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,320 Speaker 1: because they got Christians only, they got all kinds of 847 00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,520 Speaker 1: farmers only. Doctor, why not hunters only dot com? You 848 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: have your ripping grin, right, on there. It would be 849 00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:13,920 Speaker 1: a good website because farmers only, I gather I think 850 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of non farmers, Cal being one of them. 851 00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:22,840 Speaker 1: He's probably never Cal. Have you ever dated on the 852 00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:24,880 Speaker 1: on the internet there? Because I I we all. I 853 00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: think we all probably got married before it was prevalent. 854 00:54:27,480 --> 00:54:29,360 Speaker 1: I missed it. I missed. It's like I missed a 855 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,879 Speaker 1: good old day, you know, like the good old days 856 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,759 Speaker 1: of dating, I like totally missed. Back then, you had 857 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,320 Speaker 1: to like get ship faced if you wanted to go 858 00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: on a date, because you yeah to go down and 859 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,759 Speaker 1: put in the time. Man, I've never swiped a lady 860 00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:45,719 Speaker 1: any really any direction, but never swiped anybody. Right. You had, like, 861 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,200 Speaker 1: you know, drink a bottle of Boons in the shower, 862 00:54:48,360 --> 00:54:49,960 Speaker 1: go down and have a long Island ice tea and 863 00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,960 Speaker 1: then start talking and then once you got to the 864 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,160 Speaker 1: garlic in your toes, the day was over. My buddy 865 00:54:58,239 --> 00:54:59,719 Speaker 1: Ronnie was just telling me about a guy that he 866 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,040 Speaker 1: who's in the dating game and he still does the 867 00:55:02,080 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: old passioned way in bars, but he uh carries a 868 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,280 Speaker 1: thing of tic TACs in his pocket and he reaches 869 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,319 Speaker 1: in his pocket and rattles are like a rattlesnake and says, 870 00:55:11,360 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: there's a snake in my pants, and he says it's this, 871 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:18,480 Speaker 1: he says, he says that it works. I started, I 872 00:55:18,560 --> 00:55:20,640 Speaker 1: started doing to my wife and I haven't gotten anywhere 873 00:55:20,680 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: with her. That's a good ad for tick tacks. But 874 00:55:28,080 --> 00:55:30,520 Speaker 1: I was using those orange tic TACs and my kid's hand. 875 00:55:30,560 --> 00:55:32,200 Speaker 1: Now I was rattling to my wife and she's just 876 00:55:32,320 --> 00:55:37,640 Speaker 1: like having none of it. Another question, it's kind of 877 00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:40,800 Speaker 1: like same vein is post apocalyptic? Guns? Is is U 878 00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: when it comes to backpack and you like spoons or forks? No, 879 00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:50,800 Speaker 1: that's like that's like the middle of the road centrist 880 00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:55,640 Speaker 1: bullshit right there. That's like fence sitters. Those guys are 881 00:55:55,680 --> 00:55:58,080 Speaker 1: the fence sitters. You know. Well, I'm pro nuanced. I 882 00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,640 Speaker 1: feel like that's the prone nuance, very nuance. It's got 883 00:56:01,719 --> 00:56:03,640 Speaker 1: some curvature and some spiking things at the end. It's 884 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:08,480 Speaker 1: very nuanced. Yeah, I'm a long uh fork. I feel 885 00:56:08,480 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: like the natural world is nothing but like fork things, 886 00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,840 Speaker 1: pokey sticks, knife tips. Like I'm never out in the 887 00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:22,960 Speaker 1: woods and be like, man if I only had a fork. Yeah, 888 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:24,960 Speaker 1: I feel like the meals that we eat out there 889 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:29,880 Speaker 1: aren't sophisticated enough for a fork, right, And it's like, 890 00:56:30,440 --> 00:56:33,040 Speaker 1: if there's some time when you need a fork, your 891 00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: knife will do the trick. Yeah, like you don't like 892 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:41,879 Speaker 1: tuck in your napkin and ship like you And yeah, 893 00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:44,759 Speaker 1: it's a blunt object. I guess just that one hunt 894 00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:47,960 Speaker 1: where where the helicopter took us in and then with 895 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 1: the Hollywood people. Yeah, we had to use the small 896 00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:55,720 Speaker 1: fork from first one from the Johnny that's you salad 897 00:56:55,760 --> 00:57:03,920 Speaker 1: for big Like I, we've taken to run and almost 898 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,320 Speaker 1: exclusively like big long handled spoons, which are meant for 899 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:13,040 Speaker 1: digging into, so you don't you don't soil your knuckles 900 00:57:14,920 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 1: eating freeze dry. In a moment of weakness around Christmas time, 901 00:57:18,640 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: I bought myself a titanium spoon. That's what I have, 902 00:57:21,560 --> 00:57:24,640 Speaker 1: like the long one. Uh. And I got suckered in 903 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: because it also had like a table of measurement on 904 00:57:29,560 --> 00:57:32,120 Speaker 1: there as well, and I like everything to have more 905 00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: than one job. And I was like, wow, that's kind 906 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:36,480 Speaker 1: of sweet. So now you did, you're able to ditch 907 00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:40,240 Speaker 1: the measuring cup and just run the spoon. It's got 908 00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,680 Speaker 1: a toothbrush. On the other hand, it's but like the dirt, 909 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:48,760 Speaker 1: cheap long plastic g s I spoons I think are 910 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:55,360 Speaker 1: better talk about. It's kind of off white. Yeah, it 911 00:57:55,480 --> 00:57:58,920 Speaker 1: flexes too much. You can't get into the corners and 912 00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:03,240 Speaker 1: you don't get a good stair. It's it's actually actually 913 00:58:03,320 --> 00:58:08,240 Speaker 1: weighs less than than the titanium spoon. What I find 914 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:13,320 Speaker 1: the titanium gets wicked, hock. What I find because everyone 915 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:15,480 Speaker 1: now has the same Like most people I know have 916 00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: the same spoon. What is that spoon? Speaking of name 917 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:27,080 Speaker 1: and ship, what's your spoon's name? Dope V notch? That's childish. 918 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: Well no, because here's the thing, people will everyone owns. 919 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,600 Speaker 1: Everyone that I know owns the same spoon. I don't 920 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,000 Speaker 1: know what it is. It's a titanium spoon. It's like 921 00:58:36,840 --> 00:58:40,120 Speaker 1: we usually just wipe out a size trout. Is that long? 922 00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:45,200 Speaker 1: See the summit titanium spoon and something like the camera 923 00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:48,240 Speaker 1: guys are wrap gaffe tape of various colors around their spoon. 924 00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:52,800 Speaker 1: But then that gets soiled. So I take my the 925 00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: file and my multi tool and I all my stuff. 926 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:00,120 Speaker 1: I caught two V notches and all my ship, all 927 00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,960 Speaker 1: my stuff. So I cut two V notches in my spoon. 928 00:59:04,080 --> 00:59:07,240 Speaker 1: I called the double V notch why too? Why not one? 929 00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:09,320 Speaker 1: It seems like a extra work. I saw someone else 930 00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:11,160 Speaker 1: baby do that. I just wanted to have to in air, 931 00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,040 Speaker 1: and I like cutting the thing, and it's like a 932 00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,440 Speaker 1: thing I like enjoy doing. I do that with my 933 00:59:17,720 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 1: I do my sleeping pad too. I kind of it keeps, 934 00:59:21,080 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: it keeps popping. I don't know what that's. Yeah, that's 935 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:27,240 Speaker 1: sleeping pad with the two holes. Um, and I did that. 936 00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:30,160 Speaker 1: I did it to my my steep country knife. I 937 00:59:30,280 --> 00:59:33,680 Speaker 1: cut two things in there. And then someone was like, oh, 938 00:59:33,760 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: does that mean you've made two kills since you've got that? 939 00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh no, You're like, well this 940 00:59:37,800 --> 00:59:42,240 Speaker 1: is but yeah, the double V notche. But no spoons 941 00:59:42,280 --> 00:59:45,680 Speaker 1: all the way, man spoons all the way. Everybody out 942 00:59:45,720 --> 00:59:50,680 Speaker 1: there is into the sport. Sports. Dude, there are sticks. 943 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:57,040 Speaker 1: You have a knife fingers. Yeah, I'm not saying I. 944 00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: I did a lot of early season, no dove. I 945 01:00:00,840 --> 01:00:07,440 Speaker 1: was packing the salmon packets and uh, there's a shop 946 01:00:07,600 --> 01:00:11,040 Speaker 1: and catch him there that if you went in for lunch, 947 01:00:11,120 --> 01:00:15,040 Speaker 1: they had like a Mondo bucket of the wooden chopsticks. 948 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:19,160 Speaker 1: Sorry for whatever they were serving for lunch. I wasn't 949 01:00:19,160 --> 01:00:21,480 Speaker 1: buying it, but I was grabbing a handful of the chopsticks. 950 01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: Um and smash up that salmon and rock the chopsticks. 951 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:33,040 Speaker 1: It was great and then just go like stove with 952 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:37,000 Speaker 1: cold foot. Yeah you took sticks in the woods, Yeah, 953 01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:42,360 Speaker 1: yes I do. Did you bring it? Did you bring 954 01:00:42,360 --> 01:00:46,040 Speaker 1: your hands? I brought some grass to make a fire 955 01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:55,720 Speaker 1: and a little back. We talked about that. They were 956 01:00:55,800 --> 01:00:57,760 Speaker 1: clean sticks. Do you know him? Do you know what 957 01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,760 Speaker 1: Kurt Roscoe? Yeah? Yeah, your to hear what he does 958 01:01:01,560 --> 01:01:04,120 Speaker 1: freeze dry food because he doesn't like to carry a 959 01:01:04,520 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: stove around. He around noon puts the water in the 960 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:15,120 Speaker 1: freeze dry pack called cold because by dinner, Wow, it'll 961 01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,920 Speaker 1: be edible and just eats room like cold ass freeze 962 01:01:20,000 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: dry and that has never like exploded all over his 963 01:01:25,080 --> 01:01:26,440 Speaker 1: You know, I didn't ask him about that, but it's 964 01:01:26,440 --> 01:01:30,200 Speaker 1: a great question packing that around. Yeah, you know someone 965 01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:38,840 Speaker 1: wrote in that he's harder and woodpecker lips. We've talked 966 01:01:38,840 --> 01:01:42,360 Speaker 1: to multiple people that have tried the Kurt Roscoe method 967 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:46,400 Speaker 1: of or the cur Roscoe back country menu and camp 968 01:01:46,520 --> 01:01:50,600 Speaker 1: come back and said, I was miserable. It can wreak 969 01:01:50,680 --> 01:01:56,240 Speaker 1: havoc on your gut eating like impron like read like 970 01:01:56,680 --> 01:02:00,240 Speaker 1: beans that aren't totally made back normal again, you want 971 01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:04,840 Speaker 1: to talk about a gut pile? Uh? Guy wrote in 972 01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:10,080 Speaker 1: about um, it's like the weird little deer hunting things. 973 01:02:10,800 --> 01:02:14,080 Speaker 1: Guy wrote in that He's like, do you think it's 974 01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,280 Speaker 1: a good idea if I put a mannequin in my 975 01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,920 Speaker 1: hunting blind all year so the deer get used to 976 01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:24,520 Speaker 1: being someone in the area. Yeah, that's the best question. 977 01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,680 Speaker 1: That's great. You should dress it like you put your 978 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:32,200 Speaker 1: clothes on it. Well. In the same week, a guy wrote, 979 01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,480 Speaker 1: and he's saying, like, why if, why don't I just 980 01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,880 Speaker 1: keep like I'll wear clothes and I'll put my clothes 981 01:02:38,360 --> 01:02:41,320 Speaker 1: in a pile on my tree stand so that the 982 01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:45,040 Speaker 1: deer in the area become accustomed to my smell. But 983 01:02:45,320 --> 01:02:48,080 Speaker 1: and I like, you're kind of like sure, but I 984 01:02:48,200 --> 01:02:49,880 Speaker 1: just don't. I don't know. I feel like you're tipping 985 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:53,360 Speaker 1: in some weird direction. Oh for sure. But I think 986 01:02:53,400 --> 01:02:58,480 Speaker 1: it's kind of beautiful too, because I that's what so 987 01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:04,640 Speaker 1: much like, go away from tradition, Like you got this 988 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:08,040 Speaker 1: whole wild world out there to mess with. Yah, I 989 01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:11,800 Speaker 1: like it invites experimentation. Yeah, exactly. Rebel little old spice 990 01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,080 Speaker 1: on there. And but there's moment you gotta just realize 991 01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,080 Speaker 1: when you're carrying a mannequin out through the field and 992 01:03:17,200 --> 01:03:19,200 Speaker 1: it's like, what the funk am I doing here? Like? 993 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:23,240 Speaker 1: Am I really? Like? Really? Guy walks about a step 994 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:27,920 Speaker 1: ladder and a mannequin? Am I really that into this? Like? 995 01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:32,040 Speaker 1: Is that really where up going? Um? Yeah, I don't know. 996 01:03:32,120 --> 01:03:33,600 Speaker 1: I can't. Like, I just feel like I don't know 997 01:03:33,640 --> 01:03:36,640 Speaker 1: why I feel that it's bad to do that. I say, 998 01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:42,000 Speaker 1: get weird, dude, I can't. You can maybe even make 999 01:03:42,120 --> 01:03:43,800 Speaker 1: like a little scene because you could just bring out 1000 01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: your dope and buck decoys at the same time, bring 1001 01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:49,840 Speaker 1: a couple of mannequins and then so when the buck 1002 01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:51,600 Speaker 1: comes out on the field, he just looks down. He's like, Oh, 1003 01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:55,439 Speaker 1: everybody's just hanging out together. You know, have a little 1004 01:03:55,480 --> 01:03:58,120 Speaker 1: card They got a little card table set up a 1005 01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,760 Speaker 1: little outstretched. I feel like that's a slippery slope. Then 1006 01:04:00,800 --> 01:04:02,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna be starting to put mannequins in different places 1007 01:04:02,920 --> 01:04:08,680 Speaker 1: they shouldn't be. If that works, okay, Uh. Another guy 1008 01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,000 Speaker 1: wants to know this, Um, if you how does he 1009 01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:14,760 Speaker 1: want to put it? He includes this, It has me 1010 01:04:14,840 --> 01:04:17,720 Speaker 1: that if you it's about if you're gonna die in 1011 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:23,840 Speaker 1: a in an outdoor wilderness disaster accident, but he but 1012 01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,600 Speaker 1: he prefaces it by saying if you knew you were 1013 01:04:27,600 --> 01:04:32,680 Speaker 1: gonna die anyway, which I feel like has implications, but 1014 01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:35,840 Speaker 1: I don't know what they are. So it's like, I 1015 01:04:35,880 --> 01:04:38,760 Speaker 1: guess it just makes it easier, Like God comes down 1016 01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:43,080 Speaker 1: and says you you now have to die, um, and 1017 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:45,000 Speaker 1: you can pick how you would like it to happen, 1018 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:54,880 Speaker 1: any wilderness accident or whatever. Predator avalanche, Okay, what do 1019 01:04:54,960 --> 01:05:01,600 Speaker 1: you like? What do you get into? Yeah? I thought 1020 01:05:01,640 --> 01:05:02,960 Speaker 1: the question is gonna be like, how are you gonna 1021 01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,240 Speaker 1: prepare for this? But no, no, he's got a prepper. 1022 01:05:07,720 --> 01:05:20,040 Speaker 1: This dude's a fatalist. Oh man. Yeah, it's just like 1023 01:05:20,160 --> 01:05:23,080 Speaker 1: in the outdoors. Yeah, probably on a surfboard, drinking a 1024 01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: beer with some fireworks and twenty two great white shark 1025 01:05:30,320 --> 01:05:34,440 Speaker 1: keeps men something cool like that. Though you're in a 1026 01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:39,760 Speaker 1: jet ski your kids on the beach be like, yeah, dah, yeah, 1027 01:05:39,800 --> 01:05:46,040 Speaker 1: I'm on a jet ski. Probably it's on fire, but 1028 01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:50,680 Speaker 1: it's a great white the probably, so it's all that. 1029 01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:53,120 Speaker 1: But it's like leading up to a shark. Yeah, I 1030 01:05:53,240 --> 01:05:55,000 Speaker 1: want people to think, Oh, that's how he's gonna get it, 1031 01:05:55,160 --> 01:06:02,200 Speaker 1: But no, no, he survived. He's in the water, great white. Yeah, 1032 01:06:02,200 --> 01:06:07,200 Speaker 1: I like I I fall two different directions on them, right, 1033 01:06:07,280 --> 01:06:12,200 Speaker 1: which is one that would be a grizzly because man, 1034 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:15,960 Speaker 1: you know the experience of that. But then I also 1035 01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:19,800 Speaker 1: think that way back up, what do you want? Well, yeah, 1036 01:06:19,800 --> 01:06:22,760 Speaker 1: but afterwards you're not gonna get to hang out and 1037 01:06:22,960 --> 01:06:29,240 Speaker 1: enjoy like your past experience anymore. Now you're like laying out. 1038 01:06:29,840 --> 01:06:34,160 Speaker 1: Now you're like laying out. Um, You're you're laying out 1039 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:42,200 Speaker 1: a rather grim afterlife scenario. Yes so, but okay, okay, 1040 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:48,919 Speaker 1: ivascilate between the two extremes. One would be freezing to death. 1041 01:06:49,960 --> 01:06:51,880 Speaker 1: Would you lose your sense like if anyman has ever 1042 01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:55,400 Speaker 1: been hypothermic, You lose your you lose like your wherewithal 1043 01:06:57,280 --> 01:07:02,360 Speaker 1: and then you have that phenomenon called paradoxical dressing. Or 1044 01:07:02,520 --> 01:07:06,680 Speaker 1: it'd be like the struggle with a wild beast, not 1045 01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:14,880 Speaker 1: some middle ground ship like a tree falling on you. No, take, ma'am. 1046 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:20,720 Speaker 1: You ever see a Royal tennan bombs right? A couple 1047 01:07:20,760 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 1: of times? Phenomenal movie, But you know at the end 1048 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,800 Speaker 1: he's got this tombstone, and it's like his dying request 1049 01:07:27,000 --> 01:07:32,000 Speaker 1: is and the tombstone reads like died saving his family 1050 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: from a destroyed sinking battleship. Right, it was total bullship 1051 01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:43,360 Speaker 1: Gene Hackman, right, Yes, uh little Bill from the Unforgiven, 1052 01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:49,000 Speaker 1: So like apply that to uh Jeremiah Johnson. Right. And 1053 01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: he comes across the old trapper in the woods, you 1054 01:07:55,480 --> 01:07:58,760 Speaker 1: know that where he gets uh, the dude buried up 1055 01:07:58,760 --> 01:08:03,960 Speaker 1: to his neck in the sand, know, hatch Jack's hatch Jack. 1056 01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:06,920 Speaker 1: And he gets he like leaves this little like, hey, 1057 01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:09,840 Speaker 1: you get the rifle that killed the bear that killed 1058 01:08:09,920 --> 01:08:13,040 Speaker 1: me type of deal. So I'd kind of like combine 1059 01:08:13,120 --> 01:08:17,680 Speaker 1: the two where I would get myself into a situation 1060 01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:20,920 Speaker 1: where somebody would inevitably find me, but maybe I would 1061 01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:23,560 Speaker 1: like give my rifle barrel just like an ever so 1062 01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:27,280 Speaker 1: slight little tweak to where they're not gonna be able 1063 01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:33,120 Speaker 1: to hit ship with it, but lay out this amazing story. 1064 01:08:33,479 --> 01:08:36,720 Speaker 1: That's a great point. Hatchet Jack did the two I 1065 01:08:36,760 --> 01:08:39,040 Speaker 1: don't even think about that. The greatest movies ever made. 1066 01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:42,680 Speaker 1: Hatchet Jack did the two things. He did both my extremes. 1067 01:08:43,680 --> 01:08:46,880 Speaker 1: He got mauled and then frols of death that's what 1068 01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:54,960 Speaker 1: I want that. Um, that's tough one though, Yeah, what 1069 01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:57,120 Speaker 1: about last words? He like, I'd want to have some 1070 01:08:57,240 --> 01:09:01,240 Speaker 1: kind of last words that were impactful sons. I think 1071 01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,920 Speaker 1: he could die happy though, with like a well played 1072 01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:10,200 Speaker 1: joke where you're like, eventually somebody's gonna find me read 1073 01:09:10,280 --> 01:09:13,600 Speaker 1: this note. It's gonna be great. Yeah, might be like 1074 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:18,720 Speaker 1: damn jet Ski. We with a guy rolled into us 1075 01:09:18,840 --> 01:09:20,240 Speaker 1: once and we're talking about what we wanted to have 1076 01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 1: into our bodies actually died, and a guy wrote in 1077 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,200 Speaker 1: that he wanted to have his kind of dried out 1078 01:09:25,479 --> 01:09:27,840 Speaker 1: out in the woods. So he's kind of pointing, but 1079 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:30,519 Speaker 1: have it be this point that I just absolutely nothing, 1080 01:09:31,720 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: just a mess with everyone that found him, and they'd 1081 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:38,200 Speaker 1: go over just dying to know what it was over there. 1082 01:09:38,360 --> 01:09:43,920 Speaker 1: But he's was like, it's just bad because what else 1083 01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:46,920 Speaker 1: do you do with your dead people? Just burn them 1084 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 1: up nowadays doesn't do anybody any good. Um. In the 1085 01:09:52,320 --> 01:09:57,880 Speaker 1: same vein what's the best they like, the best scar 1086 01:09:59,439 --> 01:10:02,320 Speaker 1: that you had have from some kind of outdoor venture. 1087 01:10:05,000 --> 01:10:14,120 Speaker 1: I got a good scar, but it's not from and 1088 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,680 Speaker 1: like it's very weird life I have led. Let me 1089 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:23,679 Speaker 1: tell you, Um, I've never been like thrown in jail 1090 01:10:23,880 --> 01:10:29,400 Speaker 1: despite my best efforts. I've never you know, I've been 1091 01:10:29,439 --> 01:10:33,280 Speaker 1: in some situations in the woods where I'm like, well 1092 01:10:34,320 --> 01:10:39,320 Speaker 1: that's it, and uh here I am. But I have 1093 01:10:39,479 --> 01:10:45,320 Speaker 1: this scar on my shoulder from leaning back at my 1094 01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: desk with a cup of coffee. And I have no 1095 01:10:52,360 --> 01:10:56,400 Speaker 1: clue to this day what happened, but I ended up 1096 01:10:56,520 --> 01:10:58,519 Speaker 1: flat on my back with that cup of coffee on 1097 01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:02,679 Speaker 1: my shoulder and I this wicked scarf from the scalding 1098 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,680 Speaker 1: cup of coffee. And it's just like a great reminder 1099 01:11:06,840 --> 01:11:10,639 Speaker 1: of like the humor in life. Right, that's my scar. 1100 01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,160 Speaker 1: You know, Well you want to think you got some 1101 01:11:14,320 --> 01:11:17,200 Speaker 1: cool thing we just got from like being a don't 1102 01:11:17,240 --> 01:11:21,080 Speaker 1: mass at your desk some day, Like see that, kids, 1103 01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: that's hot coffee. I'm a riddles decaff you anything. He's 1104 01:11:29,479 --> 01:11:34,439 Speaker 1: gotta have something. I've got a few scars, um, but 1105 01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:39,280 Speaker 1: the one that happened kind of outdoors, the hunting related scars. 1106 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 1: Don't talk about what I think you're in top about. 1107 01:11:41,280 --> 01:11:43,600 Speaker 1: It's not right here, is it? And That's not what 1108 01:11:43,640 --> 01:11:47,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk about. Um. But I had let a 1109 01:11:47,680 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: buddy of mine who was coming up to hunt with 1110 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:54,519 Speaker 1: me at in Colorado after we've been done guiding, who's 1111 01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:55,800 Speaker 1: gonna come up and hunt? I think, I don't know. 1112 01:11:56,280 --> 01:11:59,720 Speaker 1: And the third season, maybe fourth season, we're gonna hunt Elk. 1113 01:11:59,760 --> 01:12:02,519 Speaker 1: And he didn't have a rifle, and um, I was 1114 01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,920 Speaker 1: gonna borrow a rifle and let him borrow mine so 1115 01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,360 Speaker 1: that I didn't have to let him be borrowing my 1116 01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:10,040 Speaker 1: buddies rifle. Right, So I was the one responsible for 1117 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:16,120 Speaker 1: my buddys. I let Chris borrow the black Mamba, and 1118 01:12:17,280 --> 01:12:19,960 Speaker 1: I took a three d weather be Did you say 1119 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:28,439 Speaker 1: something like careful bite? No? So, but I took a 1120 01:12:28,479 --> 01:12:31,360 Speaker 1: three hundred weather be that I can't remember that if 1121 01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:37,120 Speaker 1: she had a name. They're always females, aren't they. Why 1122 01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:41,559 Speaker 1: is that? Well? Yeah, but that's like that ship sailed now, man, 1123 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:47,280 Speaker 1: they started naming storms after dudes, now really, yeah, you 1124 01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:50,880 Speaker 1: know that. I didn't know that all these storms women's names, 1125 01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:54,160 Speaker 1: and the storm come and kill everybody and women got pissed. 1126 01:12:55,240 --> 01:13:01,080 Speaker 1: Now they alternate. Now there's like storms like Bob came ye, Like, 1127 01:13:01,200 --> 01:13:04,479 Speaker 1: oh man, Bob used to go by Robert. But yeah, 1128 01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:10,760 Speaker 1: when when Bob blew through here? You know, so the 1129 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:16,519 Speaker 1: three weather be which black Mamba No One Nameless UM. 1130 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:20,719 Speaker 1: It was rigged out very ultra light weight, super lightweight 1131 01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,880 Speaker 1: stock and as you know that going has a lot 1132 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,920 Speaker 1: of kick um. The three weather be likes to balance. Well. 1133 01:13:27,600 --> 01:13:29,519 Speaker 1: The first elk that week, This is back in the 1134 01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:31,640 Speaker 1: day in Colorado were like every year you could have 1135 01:13:31,760 --> 01:13:34,920 Speaker 1: to count tags. So I was doubled up that week. 1136 01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 1: And the first elk that I get into um for 1137 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,840 Speaker 1: some whatever, for whatever reason, but I'm not hanging onto 1138 01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:43,680 Speaker 1: the rifle and I touched off and that thing come 1139 01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,240 Speaker 1: comes back, and uh, I just got blood, you know, 1140 01:13:47,360 --> 01:13:49,760 Speaker 1: in my eyes. So I've got this nice cut right here. 1141 01:13:50,080 --> 01:13:51,720 Speaker 1: But I get back to camp and I kind of 1142 01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,320 Speaker 1: cleaned it up and look at him like it's not 1143 01:13:53,439 --> 01:13:56,519 Speaker 1: too bad, you know, it's it's just slight. You know, 1144 01:13:56,840 --> 01:13:59,519 Speaker 1: it's not gonna scar. A few days go by, kind 1145 01:13:59,560 --> 01:14:01,479 Speaker 1: of starts, you know, closing up, and there's really not 1146 01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:04,760 Speaker 1: like a big, great, big um scab or nothing for him. 1147 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: And I was sweet, but I'm still hung with the rifle. 1148 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:11,200 Speaker 1: And the last evening of the hunt, I get another 1149 01:14:11,280 --> 01:14:14,320 Speaker 1: shot at a cow and somehow forget that this gun's 1150 01:14:14,320 --> 01:14:16,280 Speaker 1: got a ton of recoil and the same thing I 1151 01:14:16,320 --> 01:14:18,679 Speaker 1: get into some awkward position and I'm not really hanging 1152 01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:21,880 Speaker 1: onto it, and I touched off and wam so twice 1153 01:14:21,920 --> 01:14:23,840 Speaker 1: in one week. And so now that's why I have 1154 01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:29,800 Speaker 1: that nice scope scar between my eyes. I know a 1155 01:14:29,880 --> 01:14:33,599 Speaker 1: lot of people to have those. Remember something, My brother 1156 01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: one time, he was real sick. He had like the flute. 1157 01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,760 Speaker 1: And now I'm watching him and I can't figure out 1158 01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 1: what's going on with him. Like we were on either 1159 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,000 Speaker 1: side of this valley and I hear him and I 1160 01:14:45,320 --> 01:14:48,800 Speaker 1: hear him shooting. I look over and I'm looking at 1161 01:14:49,640 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: is trying to figure out what's in the grass. He 1162 01:14:51,240 --> 01:14:57,160 Speaker 1: shot something and he's vomiting. But also his face is 1163 01:14:57,240 --> 01:15:00,559 Speaker 1: covered in blood and so he already had the flu. 1164 01:15:00,840 --> 01:15:02,760 Speaker 1: And then he like cut his face open, and it 1165 01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:07,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a miserable sight. I dragging dragging his 1166 01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:13,360 Speaker 1: deer back like that. You know you got nothing? I got, man, 1167 01:15:13,400 --> 01:15:16,120 Speaker 1: I got nothing. I feel I feel sad about this. 1168 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go out and cut something up. So I 1169 01:15:18,120 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: got a story. These like date like this, beautiful hands 1170 01:15:22,160 --> 01:15:25,720 Speaker 1: that are soft, soft hands. It's a it could be 1171 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:30,360 Speaker 1: a testament to how skilled you are. No, it's not. No, 1172 01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,680 Speaker 1: it's definitely not that, Uh, the only one, like my 1173 01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:37,240 Speaker 1: kind of main outdoor one. This is this would drive 1174 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,400 Speaker 1: Mark Canyon crazy because you know, like all this like 1175 01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:42,639 Speaker 1: Super Joe Ninja white Tail stuff, you know. But we're 1176 01:15:42,680 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: out like in Michigan Open Day deer seasons November. So 1177 01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:52,040 Speaker 1: at a round eleven PM on November fourteen, roughut in 1178 01:15:52,040 --> 01:15:55,720 Speaker 1: the woods building ground blinds in the dark. Uh, and 1179 01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:00,840 Speaker 1: I waylaid my leg with a machete and that was it. 1180 01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:01,960 Speaker 1: And I don't even know I did. I thought I 1181 01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,479 Speaker 1: hit with the back in a while later my brother 1182 01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:07,240 Speaker 1: wondered why my car hard overalls were all read that 1183 01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,760 Speaker 1: was the only one. Yeah, lifetime of safe practices. Yeah, 1184 01:16:12,000 --> 01:16:15,439 Speaker 1: these are terrible scar stories. No, I don't. I want 1185 01:16:15,479 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: to be like, well then I got that. Yeah, gressly 1186 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:26,960 Speaker 1: be just in my real foot. Okay, one last one 1187 01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:29,920 Speaker 1: before we getting to see him through the bullshit is uh, 1188 01:16:31,080 --> 01:16:35,559 Speaker 1: what did you learn? I mean, it's an infinite number. 1189 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:38,160 Speaker 1: There's an infinite number of answers, all the prefaces where 1190 01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,200 Speaker 1: I even say it, but pick one. What did you 1191 01:16:41,439 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: learn from your dad? You look at me? Anyone everyone 1192 01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,439 Speaker 1: hunting outdoor. Later we're just guess that's kind of like 1193 01:16:51,479 --> 01:16:55,120 Speaker 1: the I don't think he's talking about He's like you like, 1194 01:16:55,200 --> 01:17:00,240 Speaker 1: you know, when your balance and your check buk. You know, Yeah, 1195 01:17:00,280 --> 01:17:02,280 Speaker 1: I would say I think that that's probably what he's getting. 1196 01:17:02,320 --> 01:17:08,800 Speaker 1: It's that's probably what he's driving at angling camping that 1197 01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:15,680 Speaker 1: rassling animals, you know, m hm hm. Yannie sounds the 1198 01:17:15,720 --> 01:17:18,519 Speaker 1: most inquisitive. I'll let him go. Well you met Yanni's dad. 1199 01:17:18,800 --> 01:17:23,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, well I guess I can. I can 1200 01:17:24,040 --> 01:17:28,040 Speaker 1: tee off. It's uh, it's probably is to stay positive 1201 01:17:28,080 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 1: out there in the woods. Always be thinking, like you're 1202 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:34,679 Speaker 1: just about to come up on something. He's gotta hashtag, 1203 01:17:34,720 --> 01:17:37,679 Speaker 1: he's gonna start using. What is it? Keep smiling? Keep smiling? 1204 01:17:38,000 --> 01:17:42,080 Speaker 1: Smiling that's your hashtag, not stay positive. There's no hammering, 1205 01:17:42,120 --> 01:17:46,120 Speaker 1: but only smiling, just smiling. Um. But yeah, I mean, 1206 01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:48,360 Speaker 1: and I don't think he actually like went out to 1207 01:17:48,479 --> 01:17:52,759 Speaker 1: teach me that, like for you know, to be successful hunting. 1208 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:54,439 Speaker 1: It was more of a I think a life lass. 1209 01:17:54,479 --> 01:17:56,679 Speaker 1: And my dad was definitely always pushing to be looking 1210 01:17:56,720 --> 01:17:59,280 Speaker 1: on the brighter side of things and too always know 1211 01:17:59,439 --> 01:18:02,240 Speaker 1: that we had a choice how we really reacted to. 1212 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,200 Speaker 1: You know, most of time, if it's something good, you 1213 01:18:05,320 --> 01:18:07,559 Speaker 1: react good. But even if it's something bad that happens 1214 01:18:07,560 --> 01:18:08,880 Speaker 1: to you. He taught us that we had a choice 1215 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,120 Speaker 1: how we wanted to react to it. Right, you can 1216 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: react positively or negatively make the best out of a situation. 1217 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 1: But you know, just that constant positive good attitude, you know. 1218 01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:21,680 Speaker 1: And that's something we talked about this last night. It's 1219 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:25,439 Speaker 1: like an argument we have me and your honest which 1220 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:30,439 Speaker 1: is I feel that, uh, because I'm not I'm not 1221 01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,920 Speaker 1: into I'm not into metaphysics too much. So I feel 1222 01:18:33,960 --> 01:18:41,839 Speaker 1: that the what's in your brain ends at your skull. Okay, 1223 01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:45,400 Speaker 1: so that you could have all you could have a 1224 01:18:45,520 --> 01:18:50,320 Speaker 1: negative mind frame, but if you're sharp enough to have 1225 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:56,559 Speaker 1: it be that your physical execution doesn't betray your mind frame, 1226 01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:01,280 Speaker 1: you will have the same out home then if you 1227 01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:05,160 Speaker 1: had a positive thought in your head. But Yanni believes 1228 01:19:05,960 --> 01:19:09,519 Speaker 1: that you push out a sort of energy wall of 1229 01:19:09,680 --> 01:19:17,439 Speaker 1: positivity or negativity which impacts animate objects kind of kind 1230 01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:21,560 Speaker 1: of I think. So I believe that, at least for 1231 01:19:21,680 --> 01:19:25,560 Speaker 1: me personally, I might not be how did you put it, 1232 01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:30,000 Speaker 1: um sharp enough to separate the two? That was poor. 1233 01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: It was poor word choice. I didn't mean sharp enough. 1234 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,280 Speaker 1: But you know what, but no, it's it's fine, But yeah, 1235 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: I might not have the ability to separate those two. 1236 01:19:38,240 --> 01:19:40,599 Speaker 1: So that don't made me live with the word choice. 1237 01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 1: I don't care, um, but yeah, I can't separate the two. 1238 01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 1: And so I know if I'm like having a bad attitude, 1239 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:54,679 Speaker 1: negative attitude and being pessimistic and thinking, man, we're probably 1240 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,880 Speaker 1: not gonna kill something, that I just feel like, yes, 1241 01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,200 Speaker 1: that's gonna affect what I'm doing and turn it into 1242 01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:06,720 Speaker 1: probably not killing something. But how are you able to control, 1243 01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:11,240 Speaker 1: like people say, stay positive, think positive, how are you 1244 01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:15,840 Speaker 1: able to control what part of your brain controls the 1245 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:19,120 Speaker 1: other part of your brain? You only have one mind, 1246 01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:22,040 Speaker 1: So if that mind is feeling a certain way, what 1247 01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:25,840 Speaker 1: part of it is able to manipulate that part. It's 1248 01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:28,960 Speaker 1: not like there's two brains and one's telling one how 1249 01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:32,360 Speaker 1: to be Like, if your brain feels negative, what in 1250 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 1: it is telling it convincing it to not feel that way? 1251 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,040 Speaker 1: You don't ever want to have a two way conversation 1252 01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,000 Speaker 1: with yourself ever, No, I can't say I can't be 1253 01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:45,120 Speaker 1: like if I did, I just tell myself to be 1254 01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:50,320 Speaker 1: super happy all the time. You know what my dad 1255 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:58,840 Speaker 1: taught me, He said, if a conversation goes on too long, 1256 01:20:58,920 --> 01:21:07,080 Speaker 1: always step in. Uh now I, oh yeah, old man, 1257 01:21:07,200 --> 01:21:09,960 Speaker 1: what's your old man telling? Oh man, Yanni's dad taught 1258 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:13,880 Speaker 1: him to be positive, Be positive, man. I I feel 1259 01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:17,960 Speaker 1: like my dad's teachings were just, uh, we're so consistent 1260 01:21:18,040 --> 01:21:19,720 Speaker 1: that I couldn't just say, like he taught me this 1261 01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,000 Speaker 1: one thing, be positi or whatever. But it was be present, 1262 01:21:24,439 --> 01:21:28,600 Speaker 1: like enjoy what you're doing and be with people you 1263 01:21:28,640 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: love what you're doing it. When I was coming up 1264 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:34,040 Speaker 1: hunting with my dad, it was less about the deer, 1265 01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:36,960 Speaker 1: less about the act of hunting, but it was more 1266 01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:40,600 Speaker 1: just about being together, you know, being together with For me, 1267 01:21:40,680 --> 01:21:42,599 Speaker 1: it was just following this large and a life figure 1268 01:21:42,640 --> 01:21:45,040 Speaker 1: around in the woods. And so he didn't really say it, 1269 01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,000 Speaker 1: never really said that to me. He followed me, son, 1270 01:21:47,120 --> 01:21:50,240 Speaker 1: but he he walked and I followed. So I learned 1271 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,960 Speaker 1: that just being there with him and him appreciating that 1272 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,960 Speaker 1: I'm there and me you know, giving that back to 1273 01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 1: him was enough to to propel me to you know, 1274 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:00,200 Speaker 1: hunt the rest of my life. So it wasn't one 1275 01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,519 Speaker 1: thing he said to me, was just his presence there 1276 01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,640 Speaker 1: and his willingness to take me wherever I wanted to go. 1277 01:22:05,479 --> 01:22:14,720 Speaker 1: Know that was pretty metaphysical. Cal oh the old man. 1278 01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:24,160 Speaker 1: Um so yeah, not the sharpest woodsman out there. Uh. 1279 01:22:24,920 --> 01:22:29,600 Speaker 1: And he would tell anybody that himself. But what he 1280 01:22:29,680 --> 01:22:33,120 Speaker 1: did do was spend the time, uh, because I was 1281 01:22:33,200 --> 01:22:40,519 Speaker 1: infatuated with being outside. Um and as much as he 1282 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:44,760 Speaker 1: really wanted me to be like into you know, a 1283 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:49,680 Speaker 1: fun sunday watching ESPN and college sports and things like that, Oh, 1284 01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:55,439 Speaker 1: he tried to be a bad influence on you. It 1285 01:22:55,600 --> 01:23:00,760 Speaker 1: was very very palpable, Like I knew this is what 1286 01:23:00,960 --> 01:23:06,840 Speaker 1: he wanted to do, but he was willing to, you know, 1287 01:23:07,920 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: take me on the woods again, not his comfort zone, 1288 01:23:13,120 --> 01:23:16,400 Speaker 1: but spent the time. And I never really knew this. 1289 01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So I mean that's that's a great lesson 1290 01:23:21,800 --> 01:23:27,160 Speaker 1: and something that I certainly keep in mind all the time. 1291 01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,439 Speaker 1: It's like, so he bent in your direction, yep, because 1292 01:23:30,479 --> 01:23:33,200 Speaker 1: he just knew. He was like, yeah, this is what 1293 01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:38,719 Speaker 1: this kid fell off with, apple rolled far from the tree. 1294 01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:43,559 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna do what I can to help him along, 1295 01:23:43,720 --> 01:23:47,040 Speaker 1: help him along. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a word I 1296 01:23:47,080 --> 01:23:53,800 Speaker 1: say very often. Um. Yeah, yeah, So I mean that 1297 01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:55,960 Speaker 1: that was a good lesson for me. You know, it's 1298 01:23:56,040 --> 01:23:58,320 Speaker 1: like and then a lot of what I've done in life, 1299 01:23:59,160 --> 01:24:05,000 Speaker 1: UM is helping folks in situations where you know, sometimes 1300 01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,559 Speaker 1: I don't really want to be there at that time 1301 01:24:07,680 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 1: doing that thing, but I know it's for a good, 1302 01:24:11,800 --> 01:24:15,360 Speaker 1: good purpose. In the amber, the thing I didn't even like. 1303 01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:17,840 Speaker 1: My old man was a real advice giver UM and 1304 01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:22,080 Speaker 1: had like a lot of life philosophies and whatnot. The lesson, 1305 01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:25,800 Speaker 1: the latest lesson that I've learned from him, I'm only 1306 01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:29,680 Speaker 1: now being depreciate is having he had. You know, I 1307 01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,479 Speaker 1: well he had multiple kids because he had been you know, 1308 01:24:32,640 --> 01:24:34,320 Speaker 1: I had like half siblings, right, but I was raised 1309 01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,120 Speaker 1: with two brothers um from day one. And now that 1310 01:24:38,200 --> 01:24:42,200 Speaker 1: I have three kids, Uh, just how difficult it is 1311 01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:49,000 Speaker 1: to take kids, like take kids in the outdoors. It's 1312 01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:53,160 Speaker 1: a struggle, especially with that many of them. It's like hard, 1313 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:55,320 Speaker 1: and I see a lot of there's a lot of 1314 01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,040 Speaker 1: people that I know that just kind of get, like 1315 01:24:58,160 --> 01:25:00,400 Speaker 1: a man, this is too hard, and they kind of 1316 01:25:00,439 --> 01:25:04,679 Speaker 1: ditch them. But the fact that he, I mean, since 1317 01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:09,840 Speaker 1: we were little little with take us all out and 1318 01:25:09,920 --> 01:25:12,200 Speaker 1: the pain in the ass that was. But also to 1319 01:25:12,280 --> 01:25:14,720 Speaker 1: make it feel that you were very welcome and he'd 1320 01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,960 Speaker 1: freak out like over anything, but um and wish I 1321 01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:22,240 Speaker 1: get now, wish I get now? But like you bet 1322 01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:23,760 Speaker 1: you like you live a bunch of life. You kind 1323 01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:25,360 Speaker 1: of like free wheeling and do what you want and 1324 01:25:25,439 --> 01:25:27,120 Speaker 1: you stay out and it gets cold and you still 1325 01:25:27,160 --> 01:25:28,760 Speaker 1: stay out and then all of a sudden, have it 1326 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:31,880 Speaker 1: be that? Uh also have a bet you're at the 1327 01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:38,080 Speaker 1: whim of all these little freaks, you know, and that 1328 01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:41,560 Speaker 1: he did it for that long and it kind of 1329 01:25:41,640 --> 01:25:43,120 Speaker 1: leaves you like, man, I'm gonna have to do it too. 1330 01:25:43,200 --> 01:25:46,760 Speaker 1: But man, it's hard. Oh dude, running my five year 1331 01:25:46,760 --> 01:25:48,040 Speaker 1: old al hard. It was the other day and it 1332 01:25:48,120 --> 01:25:53,760 Speaker 1: hurt her feelings. This is hard. And let's how you 1333 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:58,160 Speaker 1: use something. Um Oh it's hard. It's hard even finding 1334 01:25:58,200 --> 01:26:01,839 Speaker 1: all the mittens. There is no silence. There's no silence 1335 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:06,800 Speaker 1: like running out with you and the kids and like no, 1336 01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:12,559 Speaker 1: even when things are going perfect, it's like, hey, well 1337 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,800 Speaker 1: what about this? Can't I do that? What about that? Well? 1338 01:26:14,880 --> 01:26:17,559 Speaker 1: If I can't do that, can I have a snack? There? 1339 01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:23,800 Speaker 1: Like it's they wanted their own little face masks, So 1340 01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 1: I gave I had to like net gators, the Marino netgators. 1341 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:29,720 Speaker 1: I give one to each of them. Then they got 1342 01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:31,240 Speaker 1: to wear there. We're wearing them to school, and they 1343 01:26:31,280 --> 01:26:32,880 Speaker 1: now take them school because you'll lose No, we won't 1344 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,240 Speaker 1: lose them. Next day we're going out side, okay, get 1345 01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:41,160 Speaker 1: the things, neither of them. And one day they've both gone. Yeah, 1346 01:26:41,280 --> 01:26:43,280 Speaker 1: like you can't find the mittens, you can't find the hats, 1347 01:26:43,439 --> 01:26:47,040 Speaker 1: and you just got to like somehow just but you 1348 01:26:47,080 --> 01:26:50,720 Speaker 1: can't ditch them. It's too wrong to ditch them. Ditch 1349 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:55,760 Speaker 1: your kids. Yeah, you know, it's fun, it's fun, but 1350 01:26:55,880 --> 01:26:57,639 Speaker 1: hand it's hardened. And I think like in my dad, 1351 01:26:57,880 --> 01:27:00,040 Speaker 1: I'm like way more tolerant than my dad was the 1352 01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:02,200 Speaker 1: fact that he managed to hack it out is inspiring 1353 01:27:02,240 --> 01:27:04,040 Speaker 1: to me. Well, you said that your your dad was 1354 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,280 Speaker 1: that he was never like into being friends, you know, 1355 01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:09,439 Speaker 1: friends with No, he didn't even tell you though. He 1356 01:27:09,479 --> 01:27:11,479 Speaker 1: wouldn't like secretly not want to be your friend, to 1357 01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:16,519 Speaker 1: tell you he wasn't your friend. He was about it friend. 1358 01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:20,840 Speaker 1: You know, in that moment when you're struggling with the 1359 01:27:20,920 --> 01:27:25,080 Speaker 1: kid thing, that's when you're just telling yourself, man, these 1360 01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,519 Speaker 1: are the days. This is like awesome, this is great. Yeah, 1361 01:27:29,080 --> 01:27:32,240 Speaker 1: I do try to do that. And when they when 1362 01:27:32,320 --> 01:27:35,519 Speaker 1: they say, what's that you're saying? You didn't talk to 1363 01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:40,400 Speaker 1: yourself earlier? Try, I said, I do, try to remind myself. 1364 01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:45,320 Speaker 1: It's all coming back. I tried to remind myself and listen. 1365 01:27:45,520 --> 01:27:48,720 Speaker 1: My wife is very forceful about which side of your 1366 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,080 Speaker 1: brain is reminding which side of your brain. I'm trying 1367 01:27:52,120 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 1: to do it. There's a difference. There's a big difference 1368 01:27:56,120 --> 01:27:59,320 Speaker 1: because I do it, but it's not effective. But I tried, 1369 01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,760 Speaker 1: Like I try to remind myself. My wife makes it, 1370 01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:06,800 Speaker 1: makes a constant practice of verbally reminding me of how 1371 01:28:06,920 --> 01:28:10,840 Speaker 1: good like right, and you'll cherish these days and they 1372 01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,960 Speaker 1: grow up so fast and all that stuff you do 1373 01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,439 Speaker 1: not try hard. I really do try hard. I'm committed 1374 01:28:15,479 --> 01:28:17,439 Speaker 1: to trying to do I'm committed to like raising them up. 1375 01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:20,600 Speaker 1: And when they complain, um, they're like, why don't we 1376 01:28:20,640 --> 01:28:22,639 Speaker 1: have to do that? So cold or whatever? I tell him, 1377 01:28:22,720 --> 01:28:25,519 Speaker 1: Because you'll be able to hang out with cooler people 1378 01:28:26,280 --> 01:28:28,200 Speaker 1: if you learn how to hack away through this kind 1379 01:28:28,240 --> 01:28:31,640 Speaker 1: of stuff, which doesn't really sell them on it, but 1380 01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,960 Speaker 1: that's kind of what I'm pictured like, you like, you'll 1381 01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,160 Speaker 1: you wind up, you wind up with cooler friends. I 1382 01:28:38,240 --> 01:28:40,439 Speaker 1: found myself the other day trying to like define and 1383 01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:43,400 Speaker 1: explain grit and how that was gonna help my girls 1384 01:28:43,479 --> 01:28:46,000 Speaker 1: later in life. And yeah, they just is in one 1385 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,600 Speaker 1: year out, you're trying to tell me you need to 1386 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:58,000 Speaker 1: have grit. Yeah, ger Tony the Tiger, all right, seeing 1387 01:28:58,560 --> 01:29:03,000 Speaker 1: through the bullshit. The game we're gonna play with Vortex Optics, Yes, 1388 01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:05,080 Speaker 1: because they gave us we needed to have a prize. 1389 01:29:05,880 --> 01:29:08,080 Speaker 1: So the guys of Vortex gave us the new Uh, 1390 01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:11,240 Speaker 1: they got new three five thousand. I think one time 1391 01:29:11,240 --> 01:29:17,160 Speaker 1: I said six three five thousand range finding binals. That's right, 1392 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,679 Speaker 1: you can ditch your range finder and just carry binals. 1393 01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:24,920 Speaker 1: And we've been playing around with these, and yeah, they 1394 01:29:25,000 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: will pick up reflective objects out to about five thousand 1395 01:29:30,960 --> 01:29:35,760 Speaker 1: and deer type animals. Um Steve was paying Cou's deer, 1396 01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:40,240 Speaker 1: which is a real small critter out at a thousand 1397 01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:43,160 Speaker 1: or over a thousand yards. Yeah, so we had a 1398 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:47,080 Speaker 1: sweeten deal and get these. So you get this, and 1399 01:29:47,200 --> 01:29:53,720 Speaker 1: we randomly selected a seat number which I think the 1400 01:29:53,840 --> 01:29:57,640 Speaker 1: numbers are right here, right, and that person will come 1401 01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:02,320 Speaker 1: up and play and we select did my son's nicknames 1402 01:30:02,439 --> 01:30:06,880 Speaker 1: Jim Jams Jams and he's eight j J eight. So 1403 01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:09,559 Speaker 1: if you're in J J eight, shall we say come 1404 01:30:09,600 --> 01:30:13,080 Speaker 1: on down? Come on? Then how did they get up here? 1405 01:30:13,160 --> 01:30:18,640 Speaker 1: I don't know how they get up There is is 1406 01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:22,120 Speaker 1: somebody in that seat. Was it a full seat or empty? 1407 01:30:23,680 --> 01:30:29,760 Speaker 1: I hear somebody coming, make some noise. Okay, So now 1408 01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:37,040 Speaker 1: remember it's uh, what are you doing, Ben? I'm gonna 1409 01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:40,080 Speaker 1: let him sit down here, come on up. I'm gonna 1410 01:30:40,120 --> 01:30:41,240 Speaker 1: let him sit in my seat. That way he can 1411 01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:42,880 Speaker 1: look at you guys in the eye while you oh yeah, 1412 01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,000 Speaker 1: because he needs to look us in the eye. We're 1413 01:30:45,000 --> 01:30:49,240 Speaker 1: gonna tell you what's your name, John, and it's up, man, 1414 01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:55,080 Speaker 1: take a seat, John's hot seats. We're gonna tell pressure. No, 1415 01:30:55,160 --> 01:30:56,960 Speaker 1: I know, it's a lot of pressure you're gonna get. 1416 01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:58,800 Speaker 1: You have to pick out. You need to see through 1417 01:30:58,800 --> 01:31:01,680 Speaker 1: the bullshit to see the true, the one of these 1418 01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:07,439 Speaker 1: it's true. All right. We're each going to tell you 1419 01:31:07,520 --> 01:31:09,320 Speaker 1: a thing. You'll mean to go first. We're each going 1420 01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,799 Speaker 1: to tell you a fact. Remember to maintain eye contact, 1421 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,800 Speaker 1: especially with Yanni especially. I needed I need to check 1422 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,599 Speaker 1: my facts. And it is two lies and the truth. 1423 01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:26,960 Speaker 1: You gotta find the thing that's fine, the truth, Alright, binoculars. Currently, 1424 01:31:27,840 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: I do alright around. Let's make it sure. I worked 1425 01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,479 Speaker 1: real hard on this story, so I want to make 1426 01:31:35,520 --> 01:31:44,080 Speaker 1: sure I had nail it. Yeah, I'm selling it. I'm 1427 01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,640 Speaker 1: selling it. Yeah. See he's seeing through it. Um. Recently, 1428 01:31:48,120 --> 01:31:52,120 Speaker 1: the Florida Fish and Wildlife Commission finished a four year 1429 01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,840 Speaker 1: study on white tail deer in South Florida, where the 1430 01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:58,760 Speaker 1: largest deer research finds ever conducted in the state. Two 1431 01:31:59,200 --> 01:32:03,160 Speaker 1: x three year were fitted with GPS collars eighty camera 1432 01:32:03,240 --> 01:32:06,000 Speaker 1: traps fer set. The gold project was to gain a 1433 01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:09,479 Speaker 1: better understanding of deer ecology in the unique South Florida 1434 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:14,320 Speaker 1: environment where there's pythons and panthers and all sorts of 1435 01:32:14,320 --> 01:32:20,439 Speaker 1: stuff they can get deer ned next. Um. Okay, so 1436 01:32:20,640 --> 01:32:24,320 Speaker 1: they studied all different kind of stuff. Um, the habitat, predation, 1437 01:32:25,120 --> 01:32:28,439 Speaker 1: hunting impact. Um. What was interesting to me was the 1438 01:32:28,760 --> 01:32:33,599 Speaker 1: mortality results. A hundred and fifty four deer died within 1439 01:32:33,760 --> 01:32:37,840 Speaker 1: that four year time frame. A hundred and two were 1440 01:32:37,920 --> 01:32:47,840 Speaker 1: ruled as possible or probable by a panther hif four Wait, 1441 01:32:47,880 --> 01:32:53,479 Speaker 1: what did it start with panthers? Oh? Two sixty three 1442 01:32:53,880 --> 01:32:59,400 Speaker 1: two Yeah, so it says here. Hundred two were ruled 1443 01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:04,599 Speaker 1: as panther or probable panther. Bobcats killed three, bears killed two, 1444 01:33:04,960 --> 01:33:09,800 Speaker 1: alligators killed one, disease got four poaching and probable poaching two. 1445 01:33:10,520 --> 01:33:14,280 Speaker 1: And the lowly Florida hunter only killed one of those 1446 01:33:14,360 --> 01:33:24,080 Speaker 1: deer California. He's been listening shit all right. This is 1447 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:33,080 Speaker 1: the unlikely heritage true story of Jan Smith. Right mountain 1448 01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:37,840 Speaker 1: man Who Je Smith is? I know the name you 1449 01:33:38,400 --> 01:33:42,960 Speaker 1: by Grizzly. Were you gonna clue that? No? He was 1450 01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,600 Speaker 1: balled by Grizzly and his buddy sowed his head his 1451 01:33:45,720 --> 01:33:50,960 Speaker 1: skelp back on, and you always wore his hair long. Yeah. Uh, 1452 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,360 Speaker 1: the stitching wasn't very tight, so he had to part 1453 01:33:55,439 --> 01:34:02,080 Speaker 1: his hair just so. Uh so jets Man, famous mountain man, 1454 01:34:02,479 --> 01:34:06,439 Speaker 1: had an incredible life, but he ran into a bunch 1455 01:34:06,479 --> 01:34:09,840 Speaker 1: of trouble just about in this area. He actually ran 1456 01:34:09,920 --> 01:34:15,360 Speaker 1: into the Spanish military. Um, got detained for amount of time, 1457 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 1: ended up having a kind of a harrowing run through 1458 01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 1: a bunch of cactus, got all bloated up from his 1459 01:34:23,800 --> 01:34:29,599 Speaker 1: body reacting to a ton of cactus needles. Um. During 1460 01:34:29,680 --> 01:34:35,000 Speaker 1: that kind of healing process, he is tended to by 1461 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:39,600 Speaker 1: this very nice Spanish lady named rose Rita. Um they 1462 01:34:39,680 --> 01:34:49,840 Speaker 1: have twelve kids. Uh yes, um, that's where all the 1463 01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:55,760 Speaker 1: Smiths in the world come from. Now here's where things 1464 01:34:55,800 --> 01:35:00,920 Speaker 1: get pretty deep. So stay with me here. Uh. As 1465 01:35:01,000 --> 01:35:09,000 Speaker 1: this uh family grows, the Spanish heritage takes over and 1466 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:15,800 Speaker 1: they produce a line of high quality Mexican foods that 1467 01:35:15,880 --> 01:35:20,760 Speaker 1: you can find at your grocery store today. If you've 1468 01:35:20,800 --> 01:35:29,000 Speaker 1: ever eaten rosary to refried beans. That is the unlikely 1469 01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:34,680 Speaker 1: true heritage of Jedediah Smith. Jedediah Smith, and I just 1470 01:35:34,840 --> 01:35:46,680 Speaker 1: Jed Smith Jedediah Strong Smith. Okay, the Florida panther is 1471 01:35:46,760 --> 01:35:51,439 Speaker 1: reduced down to maybe fifty animals, and there's talk about 1472 01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:59,519 Speaker 1: supplementing the population with mountain lions from West Texas. The 1473 01:35:59,640 --> 01:36:03,439 Speaker 1: debate centers around what is the Florida panther? If we 1474 01:36:03,520 --> 01:36:05,680 Speaker 1: bring in a genetic line from another area, are we 1475 01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:11,920 Speaker 1: destroying this isolated habitat. They do a collering study on 1476 01:36:12,080 --> 01:36:14,880 Speaker 1: mountain lions to try to determine their range and distribution, 1477 01:36:15,840 --> 01:36:18,160 Speaker 1: and they have a collar on a mountain lion in 1478 01:36:18,240 --> 01:36:23,680 Speaker 1: the Everglades of Florida, And for some strange reason, one 1479 01:36:23,720 --> 01:36:29,799 Speaker 1: of these lions, whose name is G four five migrate 1480 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,360 Speaker 1: south and swims and starts going out into the Florida 1481 01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,920 Speaker 1: keys And there's that diminutive white tail sub species, the 1482 01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:41,280 Speaker 1: keys deer, which is an imperiled species. And this lion 1483 01:36:41,479 --> 01:36:45,560 Speaker 1: is praying very heavily on these very small populations of 1484 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:48,320 Speaker 1: keys deers, and a number of times the Florida Department 1485 01:36:48,360 --> 01:36:52,120 Speaker 1: of Fishing Game thinks they're gonna need to remove one 1486 01:36:52,160 --> 01:36:55,160 Speaker 1: of these lions. But eventually it is hit by a 1487 01:36:55,280 --> 01:37:01,760 Speaker 1: tour bus in Key West. A little too detailed in 1488 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:06,320 Speaker 1: little too Yeah, it's a little you to figure this out. 1489 01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,439 Speaker 1: You can't ask the audience if you'd like, I can 1490 01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,519 Speaker 1: go and hold my hand over each person. They can 1491 01:37:10,640 --> 01:37:12,439 Speaker 1: cheer for you can you can go to audio. You 1492 01:37:12,479 --> 01:37:14,560 Speaker 1: can go to audience support if you really if you 1493 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:17,120 Speaker 1: if you think you need I think I have an idea, 1494 01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,600 Speaker 1: but I'll go to the I mean, where where are 1495 01:37:19,640 --> 01:37:22,960 Speaker 1: we going? Alright? Alright, alright, cheer when I hold my 1496 01:37:23,080 --> 01:37:27,679 Speaker 1: hand and do this motion over the person. You're looking 1497 01:37:27,720 --> 01:37:31,000 Speaker 1: for the truth. If you think this was the truth, 1498 01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:40,000 Speaker 1: cheer for Yanni his story. Do you think cal was 1499 01:37:40,040 --> 01:37:47,200 Speaker 1: telling the truth about asked me something? Now? If you 1500 01:37:47,240 --> 01:37:49,599 Speaker 1: believe it's Steven Ronello is telling truth about that women 1501 01:37:49,640 --> 01:37:57,840 Speaker 1: to pay, he suppose, and you're gonna go with that. 1502 01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:01,280 Speaker 1: Mr Ronello over here, I think he's I think his story. 1503 01:38:02,120 --> 01:38:08,200 Speaker 1: It's true. He gets your story, that's true. They just 1504 01:38:08,760 --> 01:38:14,599 Speaker 1: they just put out the results. Man, Panthers killed over 1505 01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:18,960 Speaker 1: a hundred of the tuner sixty three that were collared. Yeah, 1506 01:38:19,160 --> 01:38:23,000 Speaker 1: and Florida Hunters only killed one. They were even told 1507 01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,360 Speaker 1: don't let the GPS collars and the ear tax bother you. 1508 01:38:26,560 --> 01:38:32,320 Speaker 1: Please kill those deer when you see them, right, believe 1509 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:40,719 Speaker 1: for playing you still anyway? Yeah, thank you for playing. 1510 01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:49,120 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, good, thank you, thanks man. Oh excellent, that's great. Alright, guys, 1511 01:38:49,160 --> 01:38:53,080 Speaker 1: don't go away because we're gonna Uh first off, thank 1512 01:38:53,120 --> 01:39:01,960 Speaker 1: you very much for coming out, but don't go away. X. 1513 01:39:02,040 --> 01:39:04,000 Speaker 1: We gotta do a we gotta do a birthday give away. 1514 01:39:04,720 --> 01:39:06,479 Speaker 1: But first if you go out, we have our merge 1515 01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,479 Speaker 1: table set up. We have signed books. We have new 1516 01:39:09,920 --> 01:39:12,720 Speaker 1: are signed cookbooks out there. We have our meat Eater 1517 01:39:12,840 --> 01:39:20,160 Speaker 1: mug mugs, uh squirrel meat hoodies. We have our ice 1518 01:39:20,240 --> 01:39:22,040 Speaker 1: age hunter doing a grip and grin with a saber 1519 01:39:22,080 --> 01:39:25,360 Speaker 1: tooth cat t shirts and then our only and then 1520 01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:27,720 Speaker 1: our shirts that we only sell at live events, which 1521 01:39:27,800 --> 01:39:31,720 Speaker 1: is our famous steam Breathing Turkey shirts, steam Breathe in 1522 01:39:31,760 --> 01:39:34,280 Speaker 1: Power gobbler and those. They're not available to anyone but 1523 01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:37,960 Speaker 1: you folks. Um so does that? Now we gotta do 1524 01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,760 Speaker 1: our birthday giveaway? Can we bring up the however you 1525 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:43,200 Speaker 1: call the yeah, the lights out there just a little bit. 1526 01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:48,679 Speaker 1: This will help us. Is anybody celebrating their birthday? Oh? Wow, 1527 01:39:49,040 --> 01:39:56,120 Speaker 1: alights a better idea? How we have stand up ship 1528 01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:01,880 Speaker 1: goes back and check your ideas? Are you really serious? 1529 01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:05,200 Speaker 1: We did this two nights ago and we had all right, everybody, 1530 01:40:05,280 --> 01:40:07,519 Speaker 1: everybody who has a birthday come down. So we're gonna 1531 01:40:07,560 --> 01:40:11,439 Speaker 1: look at you. Come on, if it's your birthday to day, No, 1532 01:40:11,560 --> 01:40:14,840 Speaker 1: it's gotta be a birthday to day right now. Come on. 1533 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,160 Speaker 1: But then if you're real young, don't bother because we're 1534 01:40:20,160 --> 01:40:22,280 Speaker 1: gonna go with older because you're closer to being dead 1535 01:40:22,439 --> 01:40:27,960 Speaker 1: and I want you to enjoy your time. We've got 1536 01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:33,200 Speaker 1: more people. Yeah, really, what was going on nine months ago? Tonight? 1537 01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:40,000 Speaker 1: It's Valentine's Day? Kids? Oh no, never mind makes no 1538 01:40:43,640 --> 01:40:49,760 Speaker 1: like a very like a negative concept of negative. So everybody, 1539 01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,720 Speaker 1: it is your birthday to day? Oh it's just four 1540 01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:55,880 Speaker 1: of you. Well, by golly, you guys. Are all these 1541 01:40:55,960 --> 01:41:05,040 Speaker 1: chairs t winners of a new chair? Stay around, you're 1542 01:41:05,200 --> 01:41:08,719 Speaker 1: right here. Chair it up. That's very heavy. Watch yourself. 1543 01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:13,800 Speaker 1: Thank you, great dude. Al Right, guys, we love you all.