WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Coral Castle

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking sideways. I don't under stories of things we simply

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the answer too. Well, Hi there everybody, and

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for joining us. This is Thinking Sideways once again,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm Steve, as always, joined by Devin and Joe.

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<v Speaker 1>And as Joe likes to say, we have another hard

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<v Speaker 1>hitting Mysteries assault. Absolutely no, no, no, no, the mystery

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<v Speaker 1>isn't hard hitting. Our our attack on our episode is

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<v Speaker 1>hard hitting. Is well, I've never quite understood how you

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<v Speaker 1>went about that, the whole hard hitting thing. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just it's just a cliche. You don't really want to

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<v Speaker 1>like delve into the brain of Joe, do you know?

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<v Speaker 1>Not really? No? No, Well, let's let's talk about today's Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll take the hard hitting part off of there. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about a place called Coral Castle, which

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<v Speaker 1>some people may have heard of. It's an awesome alliteration.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that, the Coral Castle? The coral Castle, even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually made of limestone, no spoilers. Uh. Well, the

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<v Speaker 1>thing about Coral Castle is we know who made it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we know when it was made, but we don't

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<v Speaker 1>quite know how it was made, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 1>where all of the questions come from, But we should

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<v Speaker 1>probably start with who made it, because we do know

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<v Speaker 1>that with an unpronounceable name, I actually I can pronounce

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<v Speaker 1>it because the video on YouTube his name is Edward

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<v Speaker 1>leads Scalon, scaldon Ye Gallion. It sounds like a pirate

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<v Speaker 1>name kind of when you say it that way. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just gonna call him ed or Edward from now on

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<v Speaker 1>because it's much easier. Ed was born in years before me. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>in Latvia is not exactly, it's just one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltic states. It's it's so it's really close to the

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<v Speaker 1>Baltic anomaly. That's right. Oh No, Edward Edward left his

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<v Speaker 1>native country of Latvia. He had a pretty bad reason

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<v Speaker 1>for leaving. He was engaged, and he was engaged to

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<v Speaker 1>a girl who, according to legends, they always say her

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<v Speaker 1>name is Agnes Scoffs or Agnes vast Yeah, Scoffs is

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of contention around that, right, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>not even a Latvian It's not even a properly format

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<v Speaker 1>and Latvian word. It's phonetically written, is what I can

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<v Speaker 1>I gather from reading her actual name. That was my

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<v Speaker 1>take on it too, But you'll see that around the Internet,

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<v Speaker 1>people saying, no, it's not even legit. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>Scoffs is not. It was maybe better. But but here's

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<v Speaker 1>here's the even better part about her name is, according

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<v Speaker 1>to some of the research that I found, that's not

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<v Speaker 1>her name. Joe, you're gonna have to help me with

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<v Speaker 1>how to pronounce this. Is this her money, Louis, do

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<v Speaker 1>you know how to say that? With the no? I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what that little means in Latin. It's not

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<v Speaker 1>even it's a it's a double dot. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, but it's the thing is Agnes. He

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<v Speaker 1>was He was engaged to Agnes, regardless of how you

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<v Speaker 1>say your name, and he called her his sweet sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>because she was sixteen and he was ten years older

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<v Speaker 1>than her, because in that day and age, an older

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<v Speaker 1>man always married the younger girl. So he he was

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<v Speaker 1>six and he reportedly what had happened is the day

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<v Speaker 1>before their wedding she called it off. He was heartbroke,

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<v Speaker 1>and he left and he moved to the continental United States.

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<v Speaker 1>So he worked. I've seen record that he worked in

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<v Speaker 1>Canada and that he worked in Texas and a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of different places. Emmanual labor Yeah, he was. He was

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<v Speaker 1>actually a logger in Canada, which may explained how he

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<v Speaker 1>got some extratise in moving a heavy objects. Yeah, he was.

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<v Speaker 1>He was did a lot of stuff back in those days.

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<v Speaker 1>There was still a lot of old growth around, so

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<v Speaker 1>those trees were before out of it. Actually exactly when

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<v Speaker 1>we were logging it all out. Yeah, pretty much was.

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<v Speaker 1>She called the wedding off. It was, and he moved

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<v Speaker 1>to the US and was working for about six years

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<v Speaker 1>until nineteen nineteen when he got a little bit of tuberculosis,

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<v Speaker 1>just a small case, just a smidge of tuberculosis. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>even a smidge is not such a good thing. It's

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<v Speaker 1>grandfather got that they were actually going to um they

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<v Speaker 1>were going to quarantine him. They were gonna like lock

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<v Speaker 1>him up in a in a tuberculosis hospital. So he

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<v Speaker 1>lived in Los Angeles at the time, and my grandmother

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<v Speaker 1>did so basically, uh, they bought a small house out

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<v Speaker 1>east in the desert of Los Angeles and this little

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<v Speaker 1>town called Hesperia, and they and he had to promise

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<v Speaker 1>to just stay in the house and not go out.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember you talking about basically and her self house arrest.

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<v Speaker 1>But he figured it was better than being stuck in

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<v Speaker 1>an asylum. Yeah, that's true. It's still quarantine. Don't they

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<v Speaker 1>still quarantine people with Yeah, because it's very it's easy

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<v Speaker 1>to contract Ed moved to Florida because the doctors told

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<v Speaker 1>him that the weather there would be better for his condition.

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<v Speaker 1>So short of they didn't even threaten to quarantine, and

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<v Speaker 1>they were just like, hey, moved to this place. Yeah. Interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>you could go to somewhere where we're not don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>to anybody, and smoke a lot of cigarette. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that actually used to treat tuberculosis. What Yeah, Yeah, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what we've talked about. That one and the most the

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<v Speaker 1>most the most favored one was the cool refreshing taste

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<v Speaker 1>of Lucky strikes on filters y. Yeah. Well Ed says

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<v Speaker 1>that he cured his tuberculosis through the aid of magnets.

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<v Speaker 1>So he didn't evidently have that bat of a case

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<v Speaker 1>of tuberculosis, but he did have it. But we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to start hearing about magnets more and more as we

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him. But he said he cured himself using magnetism.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to say if he really did that and

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't share share that technique with the rest of

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<v Speaker 1>the world, and it's rather selfish of him, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like he tried to share it. As we

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<v Speaker 1>get further, we'll learn more about him. He tried to

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<v Speaker 1>share some of his information and people were like, wow,

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<v Speaker 1>you're crazy people. He did some pamphlets and he did well.

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<v Speaker 1>When when Edward got to Florida, he bought a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of property in Florida City, which is on a very

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<v Speaker 1>very southern tip of Florida. It's really far south. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like south of Miami, and Miami's pretty dang south is

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<v Speaker 1>to the south. I believe, if I remember right at

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<v Speaker 1>the time that he bought it, it was the southernmost

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<v Speaker 1>city in the continental US that he moved. It was

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<v Speaker 1>one of the last cities before you got to the Keys.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't know if that's still the case, but

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<v Speaker 1>that was the case at the time that I read. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but he he went down there, he

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<v Speaker 1>bought he bought a piece of ground, and then what

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<v Speaker 1>he started to do was he started to build a

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<v Speaker 1>monument to his ex fiance as a way to impress her.

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<v Speaker 1>According to what he said is that he loved her

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<v Speaker 1>still and that he was pining for her. Look at

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<v Speaker 1>all these things I've done for you. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 1>he was busy constructing a castle back in Latvia, and

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<v Speaker 1>she just sort of took a look at that and said,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what, I think I'm breaking off. Maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>was the reason it might be. But the thing is

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<v Speaker 1>she she never saw as we're as we're gonna talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>He worked on this for thirty years and she never

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<v Speaker 1>came and saw what he built in her honor. So

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<v Speaker 1>what what what ed did is he began to build

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<v Speaker 1>monolithic structures. He would carve out stones, these giant ton

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<v Speaker 1>or multiple ton weighed stones, and he would erect him

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<v Speaker 1>on his property. Well, at one point he decided that

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<v Speaker 1>he didn't like Florida City, and according to the legends,

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<v Speaker 1>it's because they were planning a subdivision near him and

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<v Speaker 1>he was weirded out by having other people near him.

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<v Speaker 1>So instead he decided he moved to Homestead, Florida, which

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<v Speaker 1>he's a very private and homesteads about ten miles away.

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<v Speaker 1>He bought a chunk of ground there and over the

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<v Speaker 1>course of three years, every huge piece of stone that

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<v Speaker 1>he'd put in place, he moved to this new location,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a lot of work. Like nobody, nobody saw

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<v Speaker 1>him working on his stuff. Nobody saw him loading the

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<v Speaker 1>trail either, because what he was doing was putting it

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<v Speaker 1>onto a trailer and then having a friend hauled by

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<v Speaker 1>tractor the ten miles down the road to his new place. Obviously,

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<v Speaker 1>moving all that stuff a lot of work. Did I

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<v Speaker 1>mention his bill little? No, I haven't. Ed was five

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<v Speaker 1>foot tall and wait about a hundred pounds. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>was smaller than I am. He was smaller than you are.

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<v Speaker 1>He was an itty bitty guy, and he was building

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<v Speaker 1>these giant stone structures. And then at one point he

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<v Speaker 1>moves him all to this new place, and very fortunately

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<v Speaker 1>for him, he didn't like lose control of any of

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<v Speaker 1>these monoliths and had them squash him. No, he never

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<v Speaker 1>did get squashed that we know of. That's not how

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<v Speaker 1>he died. Even No, it's not how he died. He

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<v Speaker 1>would have died if one of these things had fallen

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<v Speaker 1>on Yeah. Oh yeah. He love some big rocks, he

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<v Speaker 1>really did. And I think we we mentioned this just

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<v Speaker 1>just briefly, is that no one ever saw Edward working

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<v Speaker 1>on any of these monoliths. Okay, that's not legend. No

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<v Speaker 1>one saw him working on it. He was he would

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<v Speaker 1>work on things at night, and according to the legends,

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<v Speaker 1>if someone was watching him, even if he didn't see them,

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<v Speaker 1>he would just stop working until they left, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he would start working again, which is part of the

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<v Speaker 1>air of mystery about how how did he know well,

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<v Speaker 1>you know ed worked. He owned his property, and he

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<v Speaker 1>worked on it, and he worked on it until nine So,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, it's about thirty years he's been doing

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<v Speaker 1>all this work, and he's been erecting all of these

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<v Speaker 1>monoliths and doing all this carving, and by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>conducting guided tours of the place for anybody that wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to come by and ring the doorbell. That was pretty

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<v Speaker 1>And this guy would come down from his little towers

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<v Speaker 1>did ring the bell twice. Yeah, he had had a

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<v Speaker 1>residence in his castle tower. He built a castle tower

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<v Speaker 1>for himself. Pay him a dime and he'd come down

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<v Speaker 1>and give you a tour. And and he wrote he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't have a formal education, but he believed that he

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<v Speaker 1>had figured out a lot of science, and he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>believe that modern science was right about a lot of things,

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<v Speaker 1>including magnetism. He really was believed he'd figured out electricity

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<v Speaker 1>and magnetism. And he wrote all these pamphlets and handouts,

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<v Speaker 1>and so he was selling those two people who would

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<v Speaker 1>come and visit the site as well, Oh you want

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<v Speaker 1>to die, Hi, come on in, you want one of these.

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<v Speaker 1>It's I don't know, a penny or or whatever he

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<v Speaker 1>was charging for him. People would buy him. So he

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<v Speaker 1>was making a decent living on it. I would say

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<v Speaker 1>he was making more than a Yeah, he he obviously

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<v Speaker 1>didn't was not hurting for money. Good for him to.

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<v Speaker 1>Is there to be rewarded for all that hard labor. Indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>and he was a tough old bird. He was sixty

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<v Speaker 1>four when he died. Being a tough old guy. What

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<v Speaker 1>did he do? He didn't feel good. One day, he

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<v Speaker 1>got up, He put a sign on the door that

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<v Speaker 1>said going to hospital. He walked to the bustop, he

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<v Speaker 1>got on the bus, and he went to the doctor

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<v Speaker 1>in Miami. In Miami, which is which was like a

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<v Speaker 1>three two or three hour bus ride, several hours on

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<v Speaker 1>a bus. We don't know when, but at some point,

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<v Speaker 1>either before he left home, or while he was on

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<v Speaker 1>the bus, or while he was at the hospital, he

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<v Speaker 1>had a stroke. Yeah. I thought it was on the bus.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, and again, this is one of those things

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<v Speaker 1>you can't I keep seeing different places? And somehow during

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<v Speaker 1>all of this, when he was sick, he got a

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<v Speaker 1>kidney infection, and the kidney infection is what killed him.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to accounts, some say three days, some say

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<v Speaker 1>it took up to twenty eight days for him to die.

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<v Speaker 1>But the guy, Yeah, but didn't they have antibiotics in

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<v Speaker 1>those days. I don't know if they didn't diagnose it

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<v Speaker 1>ride or what the deal was, but that's what killed him,

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<v Speaker 1>was the infection of the kidney. Maybe it did irreversible

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<v Speaker 1>damage before they caught it. And it's again one of

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<v Speaker 1>those things that records are not really easy to get to,

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<v Speaker 1>so I don't know exactly what it was. But we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about Yeah, yeah, so Ed died. We should probably

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<v Speaker 1>no talk about Coral Castle, the actual site. Yeah you

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<v Speaker 1>guys want to go there? Yeah? Okay, well why don't

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<v Speaker 1>we whyn't We have the time machine and we'll go

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<v Speaker 1>back to and check this place out, all right, the

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<v Speaker 1>way back machine. Okay, Actually, let's go back a little further.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's go back to like right when he started it.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't want to wait, you want to go back,

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<v Speaker 1>but I do want to. Can we stop for snacks. Uh, well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we can stop for snacks, but only if you promised

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<v Speaker 1>not to drop any food this time. Yeah. I found

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<v Speaker 1>a mommified French fry the other day that I know.

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<v Speaker 1>It was from our trip to ancient England. You remember

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<v Speaker 1>that the two princes in the tower. So you found

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<v Speaker 1>a chip? Hey, who got the cheese? Sorry? Why did

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<v Speaker 1>we not building windows? And this thing? I need to

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<v Speaker 1>crack one. Okay, here we are, we're at We're in

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<v Speaker 1>or yea castle in the forties. Yeah, okay, so first

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<v Speaker 1>black and white. The first thing to look around. I

0:14:09.840 --> 0:14:11.560
<v Speaker 1>mean you're gonna see this place is not that big.

0:14:12.120 --> 0:14:16.400
<v Speaker 1>It's about two hundred yards by two hundred yards, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not a big estate or a big chunk

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<v Speaker 1>of ground that we've that we're standing on two yards

0:14:21.600 --> 0:14:26.760
<v Speaker 1>compared to something yeahs is twice at length the football field.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that doesn't work for it, actually time does it? Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's not a big place, but you're canna see

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<v Speaker 1>there's there's all these giant stones that are erected. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we're seeing here that we've got. It's all limestone,

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<v Speaker 1>by the way, which is kind of crazy, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>made of the limestone. It's it's what they call light.

0:14:48.200 --> 0:14:50.680
<v Speaker 1>I believe it's how you pronounce it is like a

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<v Speaker 1>creamy buttery spread that you put on your rolls. No,

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<v Speaker 1>not this time, is that as I think it's it's two. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>so I'm gonna say, oh light, light is made out

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<v Speaker 1>of fossilized shell and coral, right right, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>that's why it's called coral. Right now, it's it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>like it's limestone that has some fossilized shells and corals mostly,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's mostly actually okay, so it's basically limestone. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for crushing my dreams. But no, I mean as

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<v Speaker 1>as we're looking around, like I said, these things are

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<v Speaker 1>really big, and you know, we're looking at these stones.

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<v Speaker 1>The walls, they're about three foot thick, they're eight foot

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<v Speaker 1>high and each sections about seven foot across. So these

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<v Speaker 1>are big slabs of stones. Ed was quarrying right here

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<v Speaker 1>on the site. And there's no seams. I mean, there's

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<v Speaker 1>you can't see the right seems. Yeah, everything bordering or

0:15:50.320 --> 0:15:54.000
<v Speaker 1>anything like that. It's it's very tight. We've got over here,

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<v Speaker 1>we've got some rocking chairs, giant stone rocking chairs, which

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<v Speaker 1>actually rock. I want to sit in one of those,

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<v Speaker 1>can't I let it? Awesome, don't break it. What's crazy

0:16:03.160 --> 0:16:06.640
<v Speaker 1>about these rocking chairs is they are so well done

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<v Speaker 1>that they actually rock, so their center of gravity works.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not like a big, heavy thing that just sits,

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<v Speaker 1>which is pretty amazing when you think one guy carved

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<v Speaker 1>this all by hand. It was actually it appears that

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<v Speaker 1>he was a pretty competent designer. He didn't I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the door or the door for example. We'll get to

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<v Speaker 1>that now. With the door, it was an amazing piece

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<v Speaker 1>of work. Well, let's talk about the door. The door

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<v Speaker 1>is about six and a half seven foot tall and

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<v Speaker 1>it's just a rotating door. It rotates on its center axis. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>the really interesting thing is that. Okay, so he had

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<v Speaker 1>to put this thing in place. The awesome thing is that,

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<v Speaker 1>according to the legends, it was so well balanced that

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<v Speaker 1>a child could open it with a push of a finger. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well it was really well balanced. But nobody knew how

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<v Speaker 1>he did it. It wasn't until about I think about

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<v Speaker 1>twenty years or so ago. It was the eight right,

0:17:00.680 --> 0:17:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the doors stopped working. Yeah, so they had to like

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<v Speaker 1>fix it. They had to fix that. When they figured

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<v Speaker 1>out how he did it. They had to bring in

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<v Speaker 1>a crane like several ton crane that you could pick

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<v Speaker 1>up several tons at a time. And what they figured

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<v Speaker 1>out is he had an axle with a giant truck

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<v Speaker 1>bearing in the center of it, and that's how the

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<v Speaker 1>whole thing rotated. Yeah, and then the bearing had rusted

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<v Speaker 1>out over the years. When they fixed it, it didn't

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<v Speaker 1>work as well. And then it broke again years later,

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<v Speaker 1>and they fixed it again and it works even worse. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it broke again not that long after. Considering that that

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<v Speaker 1>it lasted so long after he put it in place,

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<v Speaker 1>by the serious millions, Well it's you know, more proof

0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.159
<v Speaker 1>that they just don't make them like they used to

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<v Speaker 1>know they Yeah, so anyway, but yeah, and my hat's

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<v Speaker 1>off to the guy. Yeah, he was kind of whacko,

0:17:46.760 --> 0:17:48.879
<v Speaker 1>but well he did crazy things. I mean, he did

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<v Speaker 1>these these giants, stone circles and globes that are supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to be the planets. He's got phases of the moon

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<v Speaker 1>with a moon pool with a star coat carved in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle all of the pool. Uh, there's tables and

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<v Speaker 1>chairs that have shrubs growing in the middle of the table.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's all it's it's on a giant scale, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's a little weird. There's some pretty freaking cool you know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually aligned with the stars, right Abel, that's aligned

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<v Speaker 1>with the north star over there. Yeah, that one. And

0:18:22.520 --> 0:18:24.440
<v Speaker 1>you'll see there's a little wires going through the center.

0:18:24.520 --> 0:18:26.240
<v Speaker 1>There used to be wires going through the center of

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<v Speaker 1>the whole, and that's how you could well, there are

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<v Speaker 1>right now because we're in nineteen right, I forgot, Well,

0:18:32.480 --> 0:18:34.239
<v Speaker 1>there's wires in the middle of it, and that's how

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<v Speaker 1>you could tell you could catch the north Star to

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<v Speaker 1>know that you were aligned correctly. Just really really crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>because it is amazing. That's the door is still working.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go see if I can actually push it

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<v Speaker 1>up with one finger. It takes a little more than

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<v Speaker 1>one thing. There's a pretty heavy check rock. You're not

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<v Speaker 1>a child. Maybe a child could do it. Yeah. Center,

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<v Speaker 1>it's the center of gravity. You know, you're center at

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<v Speaker 1>he's too high. That's why all right, Well, now, the

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<v Speaker 1>great thing about the construction, by the way, I know

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't said it yet, or we alluded to it

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit, actually, is that Ed had built a tower,

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<v Speaker 1>a tower for himself. It's only two stories high. But

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<v Speaker 1>he built that on the property and he lived in

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<v Speaker 1>the second floor. Because we talked about ringing the bell

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<v Speaker 1>twice to get him to come down. That's where he lived.

0:19:21.760 --> 0:19:24.800
<v Speaker 1>And as Devon was saying earlier, everything is so well

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<v Speaker 1>made that the seams don't allow light through. So he

0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.680
<v Speaker 1>carved everything so smooth and aligned it so well that

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<v Speaker 1>you just you don't get a breeze through it. Basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I heard, by the way, a little digression here that

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<v Speaker 1>I heard that his family back in Latvia were actually stonemasons.

0:19:42.840 --> 0:19:45.280
<v Speaker 1>I did hear that he actually worked as a mason himself.

0:19:45.359 --> 0:19:47.480
<v Speaker 1>I I did see the accounting of that, so I

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<v Speaker 1>think that's probably where he learned the trade. But he

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<v Speaker 1>obviously he perfected it when he was in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like he's it was just a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>an obsessive, compulsive kind of guy. He might have been

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<v Speaker 1>actually building my own castle. I don't think I would

0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.600
<v Speaker 1>have to like you, I have every scene be perfect.

0:20:04.320 --> 0:20:08.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can't even build a snow castle and quit,

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<v Speaker 1>so I I you've got to be just really focused.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you're building a place that you're living,

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to be a little more. You know, I

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<v Speaker 1>think you if you're if you're building a place that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to live in, especially like in the winter,

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<v Speaker 1>even though it is Florida. I have been in Florida

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<v Speaker 1>in the winter. It's not cold like we would say cold,

0:20:29.119 --> 0:20:31.879
<v Speaker 1>but you don't want to be sleeping outside. Um, so

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<v Speaker 1>I think you would do all you could to try

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<v Speaker 1>and make the seals. But for it to for that

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<v Speaker 1>to continue out throughout the entire campus of the Coral

0:20:41.720 --> 0:20:43.879
<v Speaker 1>Castle is interesting to me. You know. It's one thing

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<v Speaker 1>to say his room was really well sealed. Well, of

0:20:46.280 --> 0:20:48.040
<v Speaker 1>course his room is really well sealed, because like, who

0:20:48.040 --> 0:20:53.000
<v Speaker 1>wants scorpions and cons that you didn't, you know, whatever,

0:20:53.359 --> 0:20:56.320
<v Speaker 1>But to say also the walls were perfectly sealed those

0:20:56.359 --> 0:20:58.120
<v Speaker 1>that was a big wall, you know, So I think

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<v Speaker 1>for me that's where that comes in A yeah, And

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<v Speaker 1>also should be should be noted that this the construction

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<v Speaker 1>is rock solid because even Hurricane Andrew, it was like

0:21:08.840 --> 0:21:11.760
<v Speaker 1>it was like an almost direct hit of the hurricane

0:21:11.800 --> 0:21:14.880
<v Speaker 1>and nothing moving. Nothing. And again these are several tons

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<v Speaker 1>of stones but obviously well laid, and he built it all.

0:21:19.160 --> 0:21:22.080
<v Speaker 1>It's a it's a style of masonry r stone masonry

0:21:22.119 --> 0:21:26.200
<v Speaker 1>it's called Cyclopean masonry, and that's where you don't actually

0:21:26.320 --> 0:21:28.600
<v Speaker 1>use any mortars. So most of us know, you know,

0:21:28.840 --> 0:21:30.960
<v Speaker 1>you have a brick house and it's got mortar between

0:21:31.000 --> 0:21:35.040
<v Speaker 1>all the stones. This has no mortar, there's no nothing.

0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.720
<v Speaker 1>It's literally just the weight of the stones so well

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.359
<v Speaker 1>fitted together that it holds it all together. This is

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<v Speaker 1>what some of the ancient walls that you see that

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<v Speaker 1>are historical, we're built using that style. Starting to get

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<v Speaker 1>into my ancient Aliens. And in Peru, the Incas had

0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that same sort of thing. You don't see any of

0:21:55.080 --> 0:21:58.920
<v Speaker 1>it and mortar at all, but they were perfectly square. Yep.

0:21:59.800 --> 0:22:02.719
<v Speaker 1>It's well, there were some that were that weren't exactly square,

0:22:02.760 --> 0:22:06.040
<v Speaker 1>but they still they fit together. So yeah. Well, here's

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<v Speaker 1>one other odd thing um that about it is ed

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<v Speaker 1>didn't actually call this place Coral Castle. He called it Blackgate.

0:22:16.600 --> 0:22:21.440
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't until after he died the property sold. Somebody

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<v Speaker 1>in the family inherited it, and I think that I

0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:27.520
<v Speaker 1>lived in Michigan, and he didn't want it, and so

0:22:27.640 --> 0:22:29.840
<v Speaker 1>we sold it somebody else, who it sounds like, didn't

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<v Speaker 1>even realize that this stuff was on the property when

0:22:32.400 --> 0:22:35.159
<v Speaker 1>they bought it. And then they realized it could be

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<v Speaker 1>a tourist attraction, and then they changed the name to

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<v Speaker 1>Coral Castle. It's actually on the Registry of Historic Places,

0:22:41.640 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 1>but it's under the original name of Blackgate Park. I

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.679
<v Speaker 1>thought it was changed in two thousand eleven. The registry portion, uh,

0:22:49.080 --> 0:22:51.320
<v Speaker 1>you know, it might have been. I had a heart.

0:22:51.359 --> 0:22:54.040
<v Speaker 1>I was really trying to track where and why the

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<v Speaker 1>name got changed. And again it was like really dicey

0:22:57.680 --> 0:22:59.800
<v Speaker 1>to figure out why they did it and how they

0:22:59.840 --> 0:23:02.280
<v Speaker 1>did it. But I know on their on the official

0:23:02.359 --> 0:23:06.600
<v Speaker 1>website they say it's still listed as block now. They

0:23:06.720 --> 0:23:09.320
<v Speaker 1>might they might not have updated their stuff. They also

0:23:09.520 --> 0:23:15.840
<v Speaker 1>say that he was engaged to Agnes Scott's, so maybe

0:23:15.880 --> 0:23:18.760
<v Speaker 1>they're too worried about it. I haven't been is meticulous

0:23:18.800 --> 0:23:21.080
<v Speaker 1>about like finding out about the history of this place

0:23:21.080 --> 0:23:24.040
<v Speaker 1>as we've been. Yeah, exactly. I gotta say for somebody

0:23:24.119 --> 0:23:26.119
<v Speaker 1>that that that was a nice little windfall for somebody

0:23:26.119 --> 0:23:27.600
<v Speaker 1>to be able to like just sort of luck into

0:23:27.680 --> 0:23:29.440
<v Speaker 1>that place, because I imagine you can make some money

0:23:29.480 --> 0:23:34.200
<v Speaker 1>opportunity attractions like this. Absolutely absolutely well. I think that's

0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 1>enough about ed and it's probably enough to start off

0:23:38.200 --> 0:23:40.639
<v Speaker 1>with kind of getting an idea what Coral Castle looks like,

0:23:41.400 --> 0:23:44.639
<v Speaker 1>giants several tons stone. Of course, pictures on the website

0:23:44.920 --> 0:23:48.119
<v Speaker 1>we have at least and Google it. There's tons of

0:23:48.200 --> 0:23:50.440
<v Speaker 1>images on Google. But if we're going to talk about

0:23:50.480 --> 0:23:53.360
<v Speaker 1>there is, do we need to like squeeze back into

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<v Speaker 1>the way back machine and go back to two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and fourteen. Oh yeah, we're there. Okay, we're there. We're okay. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>that was easy. Oh so we weren't really in Florida

0:24:05.520 --> 0:24:08.719
<v Speaker 1>in the n We were, but while you two were

0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:14.080
<v Speaker 1>talking and you're eating your snacks, all right, we time

0:24:14.160 --> 0:24:19.560
<v Speaker 1>machined there but transported back. Yeah, we're mixing, mixing, all right.

0:24:20.400 --> 0:24:22.879
<v Speaker 1>So I mean we talked about the fact that Ed

0:24:23.000 --> 0:24:27.680
<v Speaker 1>was a little guy. Yeah, and the stone that Coral

0:24:27.760 --> 0:24:31.080
<v Speaker 1>Castle is built out of. They say that it is

0:24:31.800 --> 0:24:41.040
<v Speaker 1>eleven hundred tons of stone that he erected, that he carved. Well,

0:24:41.280 --> 0:24:43.080
<v Speaker 1>that's that's a lot of rock for one little guy.

0:24:43.320 --> 0:24:45.680
<v Speaker 1>Some of it, they said, was corried like right out

0:24:45.720 --> 0:24:48.360
<v Speaker 1>the back of his property, right. I don't remember which

0:24:48.400 --> 0:24:51.280
<v Speaker 1>property it was, it was the new second property. I

0:24:51.320 --> 0:24:54.040
<v Speaker 1>wonder if that's why that must have played a factor

0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:56.880
<v Speaker 1>and his reasoning to buy the new place a place

0:24:56.920 --> 0:24:59.879
<v Speaker 1>where you Yeah, that must have been a big factor.

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<v Speaker 1>So I guess you know, that's a little bit of

0:25:01.840 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 1>a side note to add to the understanding of this

0:25:05.119 --> 0:25:06.919
<v Speaker 1>whole thing. And I think we talked a little bit

0:25:06.960 --> 0:25:10.359
<v Speaker 1>about Ed was very secretive and he didn't tell people

0:25:10.480 --> 0:25:13.640
<v Speaker 1>how he had how he built all this stuff. People

0:25:13.840 --> 0:25:16.920
<v Speaker 1>don't always ask him. And this will this will go

0:25:17.160 --> 0:25:21.360
<v Speaker 1>right into our first theory, which is that Ed discovered

0:25:21.400 --> 0:25:24.960
<v Speaker 1>the secret of the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptian spy. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what he said. Do you think maybe had a way

0:25:27.520 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 1>back machine too? Man? Did everybody have one of these?

0:25:31.760 --> 0:25:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Not everybody? I swear that the guy that I bought

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:37.000
<v Speaker 1>this from said it was one of a kind. I

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<v Speaker 1>also played. Yeah, yeah, he was kind of weird guy.

0:25:44.200 --> 0:25:46.920
<v Speaker 1>Well Ed said that he had discovered the secrets of

0:25:47.000 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>the Pyramids and that's all he would ever tell people

0:25:50.240 --> 0:25:53.400
<v Speaker 1>when they would ask him how he was was doing

0:25:53.520 --> 0:25:56.320
<v Speaker 1>it again, he wouldn't give out a lot of information.

0:25:56.560 --> 0:25:59.560
<v Speaker 1>But the only thing he would say besides the secrets

0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:02.359
<v Speaker 1>of the pards was that he understood the laws of

0:26:02.520 --> 0:26:07.320
<v Speaker 1>weight and leverage. Well, yeah, like write a pamphlet to

0:26:07.400 --> 0:26:10.399
<v Speaker 1>that effect here, Yeah he did. But still didn't explain

0:26:10.520 --> 0:26:14.520
<v Speaker 1>exactly how he used weight and leverage. Yeah, he kind

0:26:14.560 --> 0:26:18.320
<v Speaker 1>of he kind of kept it under his hat, right, Yeah,

0:26:18.359 --> 0:26:20.359
<v Speaker 1>because you know, if I discover a secret, I'm not

0:26:20.400 --> 0:26:23.000
<v Speaker 1>going to tell anybody, but there's it for myself. But

0:26:23.200 --> 0:26:25.119
<v Speaker 1>there does happen to be a guy who's alive right

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<v Speaker 1>now today who has figured a bunch of this stuff out,

0:26:27.800 --> 0:26:35.600
<v Speaker 1>Mr Wally Wallington. Really Wallington duously lives in Michigan. Which

0:26:35.640 --> 0:26:38.920
<v Speaker 1>it turns out that both Devan and I have relatives living. Yeah,

0:26:39.000 --> 0:26:41.119
<v Speaker 1>and I guess did it weren't we earlier saying that

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:45.480
<v Speaker 1>we thought that this guy's family was maybe in Michigan. Yeah,

0:26:45.680 --> 0:26:49.040
<v Speaker 1>I believe it was Michigan. Was where the distant relative

0:26:49.080 --> 0:26:55.880
<v Speaker 1>who inherent property. Yeah, there's always there's always a Michigan connection. Yeah.

0:26:55.920 --> 0:26:59.479
<v Speaker 1>But anyway, um, yeah, so Wally and and just if

0:26:59.560 --> 0:27:01.200
<v Speaker 1>any of you want to do a quick google on

0:27:01.320 --> 0:27:04.480
<v Speaker 1>Wally Wallington YouTube and you can you can watch the

0:27:04.640 --> 0:27:08.040
<v Speaker 1>videos of this guy moving around massive massive chunks of

0:27:08.119 --> 0:27:12.800
<v Speaker 1>concrete ads stones. Really interesting. He moves a barn at

0:27:12.840 --> 0:27:18.320
<v Speaker 1>one point, like an actual barn, huge little without without machinery.

0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:21.800
<v Speaker 1>Now he's using two by fours and counterweights and some

0:27:22.000 --> 0:27:26.520
<v Speaker 1>rocks and some literally little little, small little rocks and

0:27:26.800 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>just leveraging things around, and it's it's amazing to watch. Yeah,

0:27:30.040 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 1>the guys, the guy's pretty ingenious. And you know, usually

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:36.199
<v Speaker 1>we make fun of people like this, you know, it's

0:27:36.280 --> 0:27:38.240
<v Speaker 1>tongue in cheek loving, we make fun of these people.

0:27:38.359 --> 0:27:40.000
<v Speaker 1>But this guy, we all kind of sat around watching

0:27:40.000 --> 0:27:41.919
<v Speaker 1>the video really ready, I think for all of us

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:44.639
<v Speaker 1>to be like, oh, this is dumb, and we like

0:27:45.000 --> 0:27:48.200
<v Speaker 1>got further into the video and we're like, wait, that

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:53.960
<v Speaker 1>totally makes sense. Thinks that he's handed out how the

0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:57.760
<v Speaker 1>ancient Brits managed to put up stonehead, which is and

0:27:57.840 --> 0:28:00.919
<v Speaker 1>he actually gives a visual demonstration of himself. He has

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<v Speaker 1>by himself putting pounds obelisk and standing it up into

0:28:07.400 --> 0:28:10.040
<v Speaker 1>a hole in the ground. He was moving a several

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.280
<v Speaker 1>ton block. He said he could move at three feet

0:28:13.320 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 1>in a day, at an hour. At in an hour,

0:28:19.000 --> 0:28:21.640
<v Speaker 1>he says, it's a massive block, and he's using two

0:28:21.720 --> 0:28:24.600
<v Speaker 1>small round stones. He can basically screwch it back and

0:28:24.680 --> 0:28:27.399
<v Speaker 1>forth over these stones and just pivoted on these on

0:28:27.480 --> 0:28:29.800
<v Speaker 1>these two different stones. Now we should go ahead and

0:28:30.000 --> 0:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>like make sure that everybody knows that, at least in

0:28:32.840 --> 0:28:36.480
<v Speaker 1>these videos. Everything he showed when he was scooching these stones,

0:28:36.600 --> 0:28:39.520
<v Speaker 1>he was doing it on flat concrete. Told that it

0:28:39.560 --> 0:28:42.400
<v Speaker 1>would be way harder to do on like a gravel path,

0:28:43.800 --> 0:28:46.680
<v Speaker 1>grass or something. He has, but he has that other

0:28:46.880 --> 0:28:51.200
<v Speaker 1>ingenious method is at the beginning of the video, he

0:28:51.360 --> 0:28:53.880
<v Speaker 1>built the thing out of wood. That is basically, so

0:28:54.000 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 1>if you like take and he had like this massive

0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 1>chunk of concrete that was like like like a wrecked

0:29:00.000 --> 0:29:03.400
<v Speaker 1>angular concrete, but it was square if you look at

0:29:03.440 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 1>it on end, and so if you take uh, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's say that that is so let's say three

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<v Speaker 1>ft on one side. Then he basically built a structure

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.760
<v Speaker 1>and it's like got these semi circles, and the distance

0:29:17.200 --> 0:29:19.480
<v Speaker 1>around the radius of that thing for each one of

0:29:19.480 --> 0:29:22.560
<v Speaker 1>these semicircles is also three ft same as the rock, right,

0:29:23.040 --> 0:29:26.080
<v Speaker 1>a stone he's making. And then basically this thing is

0:29:26.120 --> 0:29:29.040
<v Speaker 1>a whole series of these semi circles pointing upwards. And

0:29:29.120 --> 0:29:31.880
<v Speaker 1>he was just rolling that thing across that a massive,

0:29:32.040 --> 0:29:35.200
<v Speaker 1>massive chuckle, square concrete and he was just rolling it

0:29:35.320 --> 0:29:39.720
<v Speaker 1>right across there well by hand. It was yeah, yeah,

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:43.240
<v Speaker 1>that was amazing, And really it's disturbing, and I believe

0:29:43.360 --> 0:29:46.120
<v Speaker 1>his he says. I believe he said at one point,

0:29:46.280 --> 0:29:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to do this without any mechanical machinery used.

0:29:52.000 --> 0:29:54.360
<v Speaker 1>And it is. It's two by fours and a couple

0:29:54.400 --> 0:29:58.160
<v Speaker 1>of rocks fours and some and some concrete weights, just

0:29:58.400 --> 0:30:01.400
<v Speaker 1>using weights and stuff. And yeah, it's really cool. And

0:30:01.480 --> 0:30:04.840
<v Speaker 1>if if Ed used that same technique, that would explain

0:30:05.160 --> 0:30:08.240
<v Speaker 1>how he moved all these huge stones and how he

0:30:08.840 --> 0:30:12.320
<v Speaker 1>levered him into place. Yea, if this is this, if

0:30:12.400 --> 0:30:15.920
<v Speaker 1>this technique is also what the ancient Egyptians used, which

0:30:16.120 --> 0:30:19.760
<v Speaker 1>currently modern science thinks that they just did it all

0:30:19.800 --> 0:30:22.880
<v Speaker 1>the hard way with you know, thousands of thousands of slaves,

0:30:23.080 --> 0:30:28.400
<v Speaker 1>divers dragging these things along logs and logs and logs. Actually,

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.640
<v Speaker 1>although actually there's a there's a more recent theory that

0:30:30.760 --> 0:30:34.360
<v Speaker 1>they actually um poured the blocks of the pyramids in place.

0:30:35.320 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Actually that instead of Corey and them and dragging them

0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:44.280
<v Speaker 1>for a long distance, they actually poured him in place. Yeah,

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:48.040
<v Speaker 1>kind of crew concrete in place. That is one theory.

0:30:48.080 --> 0:30:49.600
<v Speaker 1>And they made him on the spot so I didn't

0:30:49.600 --> 0:30:51.360
<v Speaker 1>have to drag him, so I still had to drag

0:30:51.480 --> 0:30:53.760
<v Speaker 1>weapons into place. Well, but here's here's the crazy thing.

0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>The pyramids. They figure right now it took twenty years

0:30:56.880 --> 0:31:00.520
<v Speaker 1>to make each pyramid, and they say that it required

0:31:00.600 --> 0:31:04.880
<v Speaker 1>a labor force of one D two hundred thousand people.

0:31:06.120 --> 0:31:10.120
<v Speaker 1>If they're using the same techniques that Wally Wallington and

0:31:10.880 --> 0:31:14.680
<v Speaker 1>ed theoretically might have been using, it would have actually

0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.680
<v Speaker 1>only taken about five thousand men, which is a huge

0:31:19.080 --> 0:31:23.320
<v Speaker 1>reduction in labor force themselves. Says, you know, it's it's

0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.600
<v Speaker 1>quite possible that the ancient Breads who put up Stonehenge,

0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:28.479
<v Speaker 1>and it was actually it's quite possible, was a much

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.120
<v Speaker 1>much smaller crew than anybody up to now is ever believed.

0:31:31.360 --> 0:31:33.880
<v Speaker 1>I believe we said when we were watching that video

0:31:34.080 --> 0:31:38.960
<v Speaker 1>that maybe it just was one weird Yeah, exactly, what

0:31:39.040 --> 0:31:43.840
<v Speaker 1>does Fred do it? He playing with rocks? So what

0:31:43.920 --> 0:31:46.560
<v Speaker 1>are the theories do we have here? Well, we've got

0:31:46.880 --> 0:31:51.960
<v Speaker 1>magnetic A lines. You all know what magnetic A lines are, right, yeah? Yeah, thertex. Yes,

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>they're the supposed magnetic lines that run through the earth

0:31:56.200 --> 0:32:01.360
<v Speaker 1>and where they cross they have strange properties. Vortex exactly.

0:32:01.480 --> 0:32:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna keep saying the Oregan vortex, right. Yes,

0:32:06.600 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 1>Actually I've heard about it, but I've never been should

0:32:09.160 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I should go? It's not that far away. Not so.

0:32:12.120 --> 0:32:17.440
<v Speaker 1>According to Ed, he said that he could see the

0:32:17.600 --> 0:32:23.000
<v Speaker 1>magnetic properties of things because he understood the natural magnetism

0:32:23.120 --> 0:32:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of everything, and that he saw all these magnetic properties

0:32:27.280 --> 0:32:31.320
<v Speaker 1>as beads of light, so that he could actually visualize them,

0:32:32.320 --> 0:32:34.120
<v Speaker 1>and so he would see it and he would know

0:32:34.240 --> 0:32:38.000
<v Speaker 1>where the magnetic lines were to then use those. There's

0:32:38.160 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 1>there's talk that the reason that he moved Coral Castle

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:46.920
<v Speaker 1>wasn't because of a subdivision, but because he realized that

0:32:47.000 --> 0:32:49.960
<v Speaker 1>there was better lay lines somewhere else, which happened to

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>be his new property, and that's why he moved everything.

0:32:53.000 --> 0:33:00.200
<v Speaker 1>There is TV hallucinations. Yeah, and that that theory that

0:33:00.400 --> 0:33:03.920
<v Speaker 1>that Ed moved everything that's put out by an author

0:33:04.000 --> 0:33:11.120
<v Speaker 1>who's got the awesome name of Race Stoner. Yeah yeah,

0:33:11.760 --> 0:33:14.640
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, according to Stoner, he says that that's why

0:33:14.920 --> 0:33:17.760
<v Speaker 1>it was. It was that. There's another author named B. J.

0:33:18.400 --> 0:33:25.200
<v Speaker 1>Cathy who is purported to be an authority on grid dynamics.

0:33:27.720 --> 0:33:32.640
<v Speaker 1>Well that's the I'm I'm an authority on hat wearing

0:33:33.480 --> 0:33:37.280
<v Speaker 1>property dynamics. You know how I am an authority on that?

0:33:37.920 --> 0:33:41.040
<v Speaker 1>I just made it up. Okay, Well, and I'm going

0:33:41.080 --> 0:33:45.800
<v Speaker 1>to read directly from this just so I can explain

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:49.200
<v Speaker 1>this properly, at least say it properly. There exists in

0:33:49.320 --> 0:33:53.240
<v Speaker 1>all encompassy global grid with direct harmonic relationship to the

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:58.040
<v Speaker 1>speed of light, gravity, magnetics, and earth mass. All major

0:33:58.200 --> 0:34:02.240
<v Speaker 1>changes of the physical state are about my harmonic interactions

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:06.840
<v Speaker 1>of these manifestations. The controlled manipulation of these forces would

0:34:06.880 --> 0:34:10.520
<v Speaker 1>make it possible to instantaneously move mass from one point

0:34:10.600 --> 0:34:16.360
<v Speaker 1>to another in space time. The measurements from Coral Castle

0:34:16.880 --> 0:34:21.320
<v Speaker 1>yield harmonics related to light and gravity. The distance between

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>Coral Castle and grid Pole A in the north to

0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 1>spell any doubt that the site being an ideal position

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:32.800
<v Speaker 1>to allow ed leads Scalnan to erect the huge blocks

0:34:32.840 --> 0:34:37.480
<v Speaker 1>of Coral with relative ease. Measurements indicate the harmonics necessary

0:34:37.640 --> 0:34:43.680
<v Speaker 1>for the manipulation of anti gravity listeners, Can I hear

0:34:43.760 --> 0:34:46.359
<v Speaker 1>real for you? With you? You can't get behind this one.

0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:50.680
<v Speaker 1>Turn my hat backwards on, sitting my chair backwards. Okay,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:54.319
<v Speaker 1>get it real with you? How to get a starburst

0:34:54.760 --> 0:34:57.040
<v Speaker 1>right now? While Steve was reading that to not burst

0:34:57.120 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>out into rain and by the way, this is not

0:34:59.280 --> 0:35:04.759
<v Speaker 1>product place are delicious? No, I had to put a

0:35:04.880 --> 0:35:07.560
<v Speaker 1>candy in my mouth, because I would not out burst

0:35:07.920 --> 0:35:13.520
<v Speaker 1>out into rage, just like what what what? It's just crap,

0:35:13.680 --> 0:35:16.840
<v Speaker 1>you know what, Like like just to take one one phrase,

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.560
<v Speaker 1>make it possible to instantaneously move mass from one point

0:35:19.600 --> 0:35:23.799
<v Speaker 1>to another spacetime. I just feel like you're talking about wormholes. Yeah, yeah,

0:35:23.800 --> 0:35:27.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean instantaneously moving from one to another. Yeah, maybe wormholes.

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:32.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what basically was using wormhole technology. The

0:35:32.480 --> 0:35:38.120
<v Speaker 1>call it wormhole technology, not magnetic ley lines. And that's

0:35:38.120 --> 0:35:42.760
<v Speaker 1>the shortest wormhole I've ever seen. Christ Also, the distance

0:35:42.840 --> 0:35:46.239
<v Speaker 1>between Coral Castle and Gridpole a in the north you

0:35:46.280 --> 0:35:48.960
<v Speaker 1>mean between the north pole and that and where he

0:35:49.160 --> 0:35:51.960
<v Speaker 1>put his thing, Because if it's a distant thing, then

0:35:52.040 --> 0:35:57.200
<v Speaker 1>why aren't people all over the place? Sorry almost swore,

0:35:57.880 --> 0:36:00.360
<v Speaker 1>why are people all over the place on that same

0:36:00.480 --> 0:36:06.720
<v Speaker 1>line suddenly like moving their stuff like magic? Because really,

0:36:07.440 --> 0:36:09.560
<v Speaker 1>what she's saying, right is that like, oh, it could

0:36:09.600 --> 0:36:12.640
<v Speaker 1>have magically happened, Like what did he just like think it?

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:16.160
<v Speaker 1>So what happened? Did he have to use some technology

0:36:16.280 --> 0:36:18.960
<v Speaker 1>to have it happy? Must have had some special talent,

0:36:19.040 --> 0:36:22.080
<v Speaker 1>because otherwise wouldn't anybody who pays the business to the

0:36:22.120 --> 0:36:24.080
<v Speaker 1>Coral Castle will be able to grab one of those

0:36:24.200 --> 0:36:26.360
<v Speaker 1>massive chunks of rock and just move around. And actually,

0:36:26.440 --> 0:36:29.080
<v Speaker 1>let's be fair, I did read a description of Ed

0:36:29.280 --> 0:36:32.160
<v Speaker 1>that said that all all signs pointed to him being

0:36:32.239 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>a modern geomanswer. Yes, Okay, we're just gonna keep going

0:36:37.719 --> 0:36:39.920
<v Speaker 1>on that. There's other claims that the same people who

0:36:39.960 --> 0:36:44.000
<v Speaker 1>talk about this global harmonics say that some people when

0:36:44.080 --> 0:36:47.279
<v Speaker 1>they walk through the gate of Coral Castle experience a

0:36:47.360 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>headache because they're just not used to being in that

0:36:49.800 --> 0:36:52.520
<v Speaker 1>strong of a field. Okay, but that's the same thing.

0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to talk about the Oregon wortex for a minute.

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I got a headache when I'm there too. You know why,

0:36:57.040 --> 0:37:00.279
<v Speaker 1>because everything is built on a weird keel. Like there's

0:37:00.320 --> 0:37:03.680
<v Speaker 1>a thing that's built totally opposite. There's a cabin that's

0:37:03.719 --> 0:37:06.840
<v Speaker 1>built totally opposite the way that you would assume that

0:37:06.920 --> 0:37:09.279
<v Speaker 1>things are. You walk into it and things roll up

0:37:09.360 --> 0:37:12.319
<v Speaker 1>hill and like, of course your brain is gonna hurt.

0:37:12.800 --> 0:37:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Like I was there once and a woman fainted and

0:37:15.239 --> 0:37:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the woman was like, get her off the magnet line.

0:37:17.560 --> 0:37:20.640
<v Speaker 1>She's having a negative reaction to the magnet line. No,

0:37:20.840 --> 0:37:27.560
<v Speaker 1>she was pregnant and drunk and she yeah, it is

0:37:27.680 --> 0:37:32.759
<v Speaker 1>southern Oregon whatever. But I mean it was just kind

0:37:32.760 --> 0:37:34.680
<v Speaker 1>of one of those things where it's like I can

0:37:34.760 --> 0:37:38.080
<v Speaker 1>get on board with so many theories, but this one.

0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:43.279
<v Speaker 1>That's why I put this quote in there, because if

0:37:43.320 --> 0:37:46.319
<v Speaker 1>you knew, because it's it does, it is a bit

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:48.719
<v Speaker 1>outland is and it's very hard to get behind, and

0:37:48.760 --> 0:37:51.359
<v Speaker 1>there are people who are staunch believers in it. I'm

0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:53.759
<v Speaker 1>not going to talk against him, but I don't buy it.

0:37:54.239 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>It's it's a little bit of this gives me actually

0:37:58.160 --> 0:37:59.839
<v Speaker 1>hope for the future though, because I have been one

0:38:00.200 --> 0:38:03.800
<v Speaker 1>lately about how to make more money, and you know,

0:38:04.080 --> 0:38:07.400
<v Speaker 1>there's a there really is a bottomless market for this

0:38:07.520 --> 0:38:10.959
<v Speaker 1>kind of crap. It really is, and so I'm thinking

0:38:11.000 --> 0:38:14.200
<v Speaker 1>it's time to start writing books about supernatural phenomenon. I mean,

0:38:14.239 --> 0:38:16.239
<v Speaker 1>it's one thing. You know, one of the theories with

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.640
<v Speaker 1>the with the Pyramids is this whole like ancient alien

0:38:19.760 --> 0:38:22.839
<v Speaker 1>technology of you know, they had to use this thing

0:38:23.040 --> 0:38:26.160
<v Speaker 1>and it was an anti gravity force or whatever. I

0:38:26.320 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>can I can get on board without way more than

0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>this magnetic a line. Oh, in the way that it

0:38:32.840 --> 0:38:37.200
<v Speaker 1>was was in proximity to the you know, the North Pole,

0:38:37.320 --> 0:38:42.360
<v Speaker 1>Like that's it's I think that this might be the

0:38:42.480 --> 0:38:45.200
<v Speaker 1>angriest time we've ever managed to get you on this show.

0:38:45.480 --> 0:38:53.200
<v Speaker 1>You have to start fighting stories that involved magnetically. Apparently

0:38:53.920 --> 0:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>I got to write the Encyclopedia of Magnetically I didn't

0:38:57.719 --> 0:39:00.360
<v Speaker 1>get you. Actually, I really, I really want I'm going

0:39:00.440 --> 0:39:02.440
<v Speaker 1>to really work on this hard and try to come

0:39:02.520 --> 0:39:06.439
<v Speaker 1>up with some incredible piece of just crap to arrive

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:08.840
<v Speaker 1>on the Magnetic a Lines. Okay, I wanted my my

0:39:09.040 --> 0:39:14.120
<v Speaker 1>very own piece of bs out there, Cyclopedia of Magnetic

0:39:14.239 --> 0:39:17.839
<v Speaker 1>air Lines, so that I can write a very honest introduction,

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:22.719
<v Speaker 1>swear word laden introduction, and we'll just see where it goes.

0:39:24.640 --> 0:39:28.040
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we before somebody's head explodes, Why don't we

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:31.320
<v Speaker 1>move forward? Let's go to the next theory, which is

0:39:31.880 --> 0:39:35.960
<v Speaker 1>actually pretty simple one. It's basic walking tackle. You're like

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:40.440
<v Speaker 1>alternating yes, and there are there are, by the way,

0:39:40.480 --> 0:39:44.319
<v Speaker 1>there are photographs out there of this guy using a great,

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.800
<v Speaker 1>big huge tripod and block and tackle and everything to

0:39:46.840 --> 0:39:49.560
<v Speaker 1>move rocks around. Yeah. Well, and and that's that's the

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:53.040
<v Speaker 1>thing is You're absolutely right, Joe, and I'll describe this

0:39:53.160 --> 0:39:56.520
<v Speaker 1>for everybody. Is there's there's photos of Ed on the

0:39:56.560 --> 0:40:00.320
<v Speaker 1>property and he's got three telephone polls and there I

0:40:00.840 --> 0:40:02.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of tried to guess the scale, and I'm gonna

0:40:02.560 --> 0:40:08.440
<v Speaker 1>say they'ret and he's got a cable and chain and

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>a lever and pulleys, and he's got a stone lifted up.

0:40:12.440 --> 0:40:15.080
<v Speaker 1>So it seems like maybe he was using very basic

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.960
<v Speaker 1>technology to move them. But Steve, there's a black box

0:40:19.040 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>on the top of those polls. Just a second, just

0:40:22.760 --> 0:40:26.520
<v Speaker 1>a second there, all right. So my thing is is that, yes,

0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:31.520
<v Speaker 1>this would allow him to raise them up. What I

0:40:31.760 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 1>don't see is how that would allow him to move

0:40:35.160 --> 0:40:38.520
<v Speaker 1>them horizontally very easily. I'm not saying he didn't use

0:40:38.600 --> 0:40:41.600
<v Speaker 1>basic block and tackle, but that doesn't explain how he

0:40:41.719 --> 0:40:44.480
<v Speaker 1>did everything, because you looked it up and down. But

0:40:44.520 --> 0:40:46.680
<v Speaker 1>then how do you move it left to right, especially

0:40:46.760 --> 0:40:53.719
<v Speaker 1>the ten miles right? Well, but the you know, but

0:40:53.800 --> 0:40:55.360
<v Speaker 1>you can raise it up and then set it on

0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:57.840
<v Speaker 1>like like set it on a bunch of logs, like

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>the ancient Egyptians just rolled on logs, and you could

0:41:00.680 --> 0:41:02.440
<v Speaker 1>you could maybe the guy had a cart, you know,

0:41:02.520 --> 0:41:04.320
<v Speaker 1>with big old wheels on it. You could set the

0:41:04.360 --> 0:41:06.120
<v Speaker 1>stuff on a cart and then just moved it to

0:41:06.200 --> 0:41:07.840
<v Speaker 1>where he needed to. I gotta be honest with you,

0:41:08.120 --> 0:41:10.960
<v Speaker 1>I am bigger than he is or was, and I

0:41:11.120 --> 0:41:15.800
<v Speaker 1>could not push a stone on a car, even like

0:41:15.880 --> 0:41:17.880
<v Speaker 1>a well, but you know the thing is, now that

0:41:18.000 --> 0:41:20.719
<v Speaker 1>I think about it, he could have also. Okay, let's

0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:23.560
<v Speaker 1>let's let's run it this way. Let's say he's got

0:41:23.680 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 1>more than one tripod set up, he's got a cart,

0:41:27.640 --> 0:41:30.479
<v Speaker 1>and he sets the other tripod up and then using

0:41:30.520 --> 0:41:32.880
<v Speaker 1>a wench system and your cart that you came up

0:41:32.920 --> 0:41:35.439
<v Speaker 1>with just pulls it on the cart with a wench

0:41:35.480 --> 0:41:38.919
<v Speaker 1>system across the property. That make a lot of sense, Yeah, because, yeah,

0:41:38.960 --> 0:41:42.160
<v Speaker 1>pushing something that size would be part of the pushing

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>your car. Yeah, you'd have to. You'd have to you'd

0:41:44.239 --> 0:41:45.640
<v Speaker 1>have to tie a rope to it and have a

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:50.600
<v Speaker 1>winch and something like that. And it's entirely feasible. Yeah, no,

0:41:50.800 --> 0:41:53.319
<v Speaker 1>and it makes sense. And I was I was looking

0:41:53.360 --> 0:41:55.399
<v Speaker 1>at it because there's these couple of photos of him

0:41:55.480 --> 0:41:59.640
<v Speaker 1>with this this block and tackle system. But there's not

0:41:59.760 --> 0:42:01.800
<v Speaker 1>a lot of reports of people who lived in the

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:05.840
<v Speaker 1>area seeing this tripod set up all the time. The stories.

0:42:05.920 --> 0:42:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Nobody says, oh yeah, we always saw that, you know,

0:42:08.160 --> 0:42:12.399
<v Speaker 1>ed with this silly tripod of of wood erected. Well,

0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:15.520
<v Speaker 1>I I looked into the census, I was like, well,

0:42:15.600 --> 0:42:17.200
<v Speaker 1>there's got to be a bunch of people around. It

0:42:17.320 --> 0:42:21.000
<v Speaker 1>was pretty empty area back. It was because when he

0:42:21.200 --> 0:42:25.480
<v Speaker 1>moved there, let's see, in the nineteen twenty census in

0:42:25.800 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>that city there were hundred people, and by the time

0:42:30.320 --> 0:42:34.359
<v Speaker 1>he died around nineteen fifty, there was forty five hundred people.

0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.640
<v Speaker 1>And he was and he wasn't He wasn't on the

0:42:37.680 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>main draft and he was out I don't know if

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>you want to call it the suburbs. He was. He

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:46.960
<v Speaker 1>was out. And the area that he lived in this

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 1>town was fifteen miles across, so it wasn't a big town.

0:42:50.440 --> 0:42:54.440
<v Speaker 1>So we're talking at its peak in nineteen fifty, that's

0:42:54.560 --> 0:42:57.080
<v Speaker 1>four hundred people per square mile, and you know they're

0:42:57.080 --> 0:43:00.600
<v Speaker 1>going to be concentrated in mostly one area he owned.

0:43:00.960 --> 0:43:03.520
<v Speaker 1>How much of that land did he own? It was

0:43:03.560 --> 0:43:06.200
<v Speaker 1>a good chunk, wasn't it. You know? That was one

0:43:06.239 --> 0:43:08.239
<v Speaker 1>of the hard parts is that it never says how

0:43:08.360 --> 0:43:11.400
<v Speaker 1>much area he actually owned. I couldn't get a handle

0:43:11.480 --> 0:43:14.880
<v Speaker 1>on that. Nobody ever says ed bought X number of

0:43:14.920 --> 0:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>acres or something, right. I guess my understanding is like

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:22.200
<v Speaker 1>he owned the part that the Coral Castle proper is on, right,

0:43:22.560 --> 0:43:25.080
<v Speaker 1>but he also owned a part where he was coreing

0:43:25.280 --> 0:43:29.520
<v Speaker 1>rock behind it and some property property large enough that

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:31.680
<v Speaker 1>somebody could say like, oh, I didn't even know that

0:43:31.760 --> 0:43:34.600
<v Speaker 1>there was a thing on there. I mean, obviously not huge,

0:43:35.360 --> 0:43:37.680
<v Speaker 1>but I think the sense that I got was that

0:43:37.800 --> 0:43:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it was, you know, it's got to be bigger than

0:43:39.719 --> 0:43:44.600
<v Speaker 1>the castle property. Yeah. Absolutely. And we'll step back now

0:43:44.719 --> 0:43:48.359
<v Speaker 1>to what you brought up, which is the black box. Yeah,

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:51.880
<v Speaker 1>in the photo where and that you see of ed

0:43:52.000 --> 0:43:54.279
<v Speaker 1>with this stone literally just a little bit off the ground,

0:43:54.719 --> 0:43:58.200
<v Speaker 1>there's this funny square, black looking box at the top

0:43:58.280 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>of his tripod, balanced on the top. It looks kind

0:44:00.960 --> 0:44:05.360
<v Speaker 1>of balanced, and there's he's nailed two buys or some

0:44:05.480 --> 0:44:07.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of sporards on it to make a ladder to

0:44:07.880 --> 0:44:12.000
<v Speaker 1>go up to the top. And some of our more

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:15.080
<v Speaker 1>far flung friends have said that he had some kind

0:44:15.160 --> 0:44:20.960
<v Speaker 1>of device in there that he was to so that

0:44:21.239 --> 0:44:23.879
<v Speaker 1>that and that allowed him to easily lift and move

0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.800
<v Speaker 1>the block. So he was keeping that hidden from people.

0:44:28.560 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 1>For a guy you so private, I don't understand when

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>he let somebody on the property to take a picture

0:44:32.239 --> 0:44:34.160
<v Speaker 1>of him while he was working. Yeah, that's a big

0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:36.520
<v Speaker 1>question to me, right, that he seems to have been

0:44:36.560 --> 0:44:39.960
<v Speaker 1>so private he would like stop working. If him they

0:44:39.960 --> 0:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't tell him, or he wouldn't tell them how he

0:44:43.320 --> 0:44:46.440
<v Speaker 1>was doing things. But there's these pictures of him actively

0:44:46.520 --> 0:44:49.560
<v Speaker 1>working on a tripod. There's only two or three. Yeah,

0:44:49.760 --> 0:44:53.120
<v Speaker 1>but I have heard stories too that, you know, it

0:44:53.320 --> 0:44:55.520
<v Speaker 1>might be that this whole idea that he was super

0:44:55.600 --> 0:44:57.520
<v Speaker 1>secretive and everything was just a little bit part of

0:44:57.560 --> 0:44:59.920
<v Speaker 1>the mythology of the whole thing, and that he actually,

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:02.919
<v Speaker 1>you know, didn't actually wasn't that upset as people wanted

0:45:02.920 --> 0:45:04.840
<v Speaker 1>to show up and hang out and watch him do

0:45:04.960 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>a thing. Yeah, and and and that that could very

0:45:08.040 --> 0:45:10.480
<v Speaker 1>well be. I mean, it's it's hard to say. I

0:45:11.040 --> 0:45:14.919
<v Speaker 1>don't know for sure. So that's block and tackle. Yeah,

0:45:15.160 --> 0:45:18.759
<v Speaker 1>let's let's let's go into where next one. Our next

0:45:18.840 --> 0:45:21.640
<v Speaker 1>one is, well, Devin, are you gonna be okay with this?

0:45:21.760 --> 0:45:30.680
<v Speaker 1>It's anti gravity? Are you anti gravity? Praty realized. I mean,

0:45:31.040 --> 0:45:33.120
<v Speaker 1>if we didn't have gravity, we'd be like in space

0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:38.040
<v Speaker 1>right now, we'd be like floating around now. No, Yeah,

0:45:38.080 --> 0:45:40.080
<v Speaker 1>I think I mean, just explain it a little more.

0:45:40.480 --> 0:45:42.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think I'm gonna be less angry about this

0:45:43.360 --> 0:45:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the other So when we talked about ed wrote pamphlets

0:45:46.640 --> 0:45:49.000
<v Speaker 1>and he believed he had a better understanding of science

0:45:49.040 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>than modern science did, and he he was really into

0:45:52.320 --> 0:45:56.440
<v Speaker 1>how electricity and electro magnetism worked. That was kind of

0:45:56.600 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>his thing. When was Tesla around, Tesla was like, let's

0:46:00.239 --> 0:46:04.240
<v Speaker 1>the late nineteenth century, Yeah, the same time as Edison

0:46:04.520 --> 0:46:07.400
<v Speaker 1>he could have been reading about. Yeah, I feel like

0:46:07.440 --> 0:46:10.080
<v Speaker 1>there was a period of time where people were really

0:46:10.280 --> 0:46:14.040
<v Speaker 1>into this stuff. And that's to correlate a little bit

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:15.680
<v Speaker 1>with that, and I think ed might have been on

0:46:15.760 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 1>the tail into that and he really latched onto it.

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:20.279
<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that was interesting about that

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:23.040
<v Speaker 1>period too is that actually a lot of the advances

0:46:23.080 --> 0:46:25.719
<v Speaker 1>and discoveries were just by tinkerers and people like that

0:46:26.000 --> 0:46:28.560
<v Speaker 1>and just loan event was it wasn't this thing where

0:46:28.600 --> 0:46:31.839
<v Speaker 1>we had this massive general electrics and laboratories coming up

0:46:31.840 --> 0:46:33.680
<v Speaker 1>with stuff. It's just guys working in their in their

0:46:33.760 --> 0:46:39.360
<v Speaker 1>barns with amazing stuff. Yeah. Yeah, and this is this

0:46:39.560 --> 0:46:42.279
<v Speaker 1>is this is gonna be a little bit hard to

0:46:42.360 --> 0:46:44.360
<v Speaker 1>explain something. Going to try and break this into just

0:46:44.680 --> 0:46:50.160
<v Speaker 1>real simple basics for how this anti gravity magnetism stuff

0:46:50.320 --> 0:46:52.400
<v Speaker 1>that people think ED had figured out on how to

0:46:52.480 --> 0:46:54.800
<v Speaker 1>move things, because I think I read was this in

0:46:54.880 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 1>one of the links. This is Yeah, this is I

0:46:57.120 --> 0:46:59.800
<v Speaker 1>tried to read. It's very hard and just couldn't the

0:47:00.000 --> 0:47:02.520
<v Speaker 1>one with all of the videos. It's very hard to

0:47:02.640 --> 0:47:07.279
<v Speaker 1>understand nothing. Yeah, no, it's it's really difficult. So this

0:47:07.560 --> 0:47:09.239
<v Speaker 1>is this is the easy way to think about it.

0:47:09.960 --> 0:47:13.200
<v Speaker 1>You can change. According to ED, you could change the

0:47:13.600 --> 0:47:18.160
<v Speaker 1>internal magnetism of an object. We're gonna we're gonna step back.

0:47:18.840 --> 0:47:22.640
<v Speaker 1>We're going to say that the planet, the core of

0:47:22.719 --> 0:47:26.680
<v Speaker 1>our planet has a positive charge and everything on the

0:47:26.760 --> 0:47:31.040
<v Speaker 1>outside of the planet has a negative charge. So with magnets,

0:47:31.120 --> 0:47:35.440
<v Speaker 1>positive and negative opts to tract, so they pull together

0:47:35.560 --> 0:47:40.000
<v Speaker 1>and that's what creates our gravity, very simplified. So then

0:47:40.080 --> 0:47:44.000
<v Speaker 1>according to this theory, what you could do is if

0:47:44.120 --> 0:47:49.719
<v Speaker 1>you could flip the magnetic polarity of an object from

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:55.200
<v Speaker 1>negative to positive, it would repel from the center of

0:47:55.280 --> 0:47:58.279
<v Speaker 1>the Earth and it would lift. And the more that

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:01.000
<v Speaker 1>you were that you flip, so it gets more and

0:48:01.040 --> 0:48:04.000
<v Speaker 1>more on the positive, the higher and higher it would float,

0:48:04.120 --> 0:48:06.400
<v Speaker 1>and it would flip around. There's there's a bit of

0:48:06.440 --> 0:48:09.680
<v Speaker 1>a problem with that theory though, um, and that is

0:48:09.800 --> 0:48:14.239
<v Speaker 1>that magnetism and gravity are entirely separate forces. Okay, but

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.440
<v Speaker 1>this this is end, this is this is en. I

0:48:16.560 --> 0:48:19.359
<v Speaker 1>understand the magnetism gravity or two different things. But I'm

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:22.799
<v Speaker 1>making this very simple just to try and explain how

0:48:22.960 --> 0:48:25.520
<v Speaker 1>his magnetism theory work. But that's the basics of it.

0:48:25.640 --> 0:48:28.879
<v Speaker 1>Is everything has a polarity, and if you can flip

0:48:28.960 --> 0:48:32.239
<v Speaker 1>its polarity, it's going to start repelling against everything, and

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:35.879
<v Speaker 1>that would allow it to essentially float and you could

0:48:35.960 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>push it around like a hover path. There's two problems

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:41.239
<v Speaker 1>with that theory. And number one is that is that

0:48:41.440 --> 0:48:45.759
<v Speaker 1>magnetism effects ferrest minerals not and and limestone is non

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:49.239
<v Speaker 1>ferrest number one. Number two you know, yeah, we all

0:48:49.320 --> 0:48:51.440
<v Speaker 1>have have played around with magnet you know, and so

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:53.759
<v Speaker 1>you know what happens, Like, say, if you've got a

0:48:53.840 --> 0:48:55.719
<v Speaker 1>magnet and you put the two north ends of the

0:48:55.760 --> 0:48:57.960
<v Speaker 1>magnets together, they tend to repel each other, right, and

0:48:58.040 --> 0:49:00.799
<v Speaker 1>then they'll flip on you. Well because actually, yeah, yeah,

0:49:00.800 --> 0:49:02.480
<v Speaker 1>you let one of them go and it just snaps

0:49:02.520 --> 0:49:06.520
<v Speaker 1>around and then smacks into the other magnet real hard, right,

0:49:06.640 --> 0:49:08.879
<v Speaker 1>So I think that's what would have happened to good old,

0:49:09.120 --> 0:49:18.359
<v Speaker 1>good old edge like that, I guess I can kind

0:49:18.400 --> 0:49:22.239
<v Speaker 1>of see the whole magnetism thing if we're thinking of magnetism,

0:49:22.360 --> 0:49:26.360
<v Speaker 1>like what holds atoms together? Almost magnetism is well, but

0:49:26.440 --> 0:49:28.480
<v Speaker 1>if that's not the correct term for it, right, But

0:49:28.640 --> 0:49:31.399
<v Speaker 1>that there's there's a force and if you and it's

0:49:31.400 --> 0:49:36.399
<v Speaker 1>a got a opposite polar force, right, may maybe I'm

0:49:36.400 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>making that up, but that if you were going to

0:49:38.400 --> 0:49:43.359
<v Speaker 1>reverse the like integral polar of a thing, I think

0:49:43.400 --> 0:49:45.840
<v Speaker 1>that not only would it not levitate. And this is

0:49:46.120 --> 0:49:49.279
<v Speaker 1>my total basic understanding of standing, but like if you

0:49:49.600 --> 0:49:51.480
<v Speaker 1>if you're going to reverse the polarity of that thing,

0:49:51.960 --> 0:49:55.120
<v Speaker 1>isn't that thing going to cease to exist? Like you're

0:49:55.120 --> 0:49:57.239
<v Speaker 1>reversing the polarity of all of the atoms that are

0:49:57.360 --> 0:49:59.759
<v Speaker 1>that thing? So what's holding it together? And there's nothing

0:49:59.840 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>really holding it together anymore? Is that a thing? Am

0:50:02.719 --> 0:50:04.600
<v Speaker 1>I making that up? I would? I wouldn't stress about

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:06.400
<v Speaker 1>that because there's no way you can do that. But

0:50:07.160 --> 0:50:13.440
<v Speaker 1>but but but like like particle, right, that's exactly it? Right?

0:50:13.520 --> 0:50:17.040
<v Speaker 1>Is that like you get the gun, the anti hero

0:50:17.600 --> 0:50:19.640
<v Speaker 1>in all of the like comics gets the gun. It's

0:50:19.800 --> 0:50:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like the anti gravity gun, and he can't use it

0:50:22.239 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because really what it is is it disintegrates the person

0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:29.320
<v Speaker 1>because it reverses the polarity of every atom. And I

0:50:29.400 --> 0:50:31.279
<v Speaker 1>would really like to have one of those two but

0:50:32.520 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>in traffic a yeah, but but yeah, magnetic polarity. I mean,

0:50:36.120 --> 0:50:39.080
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, in atoms, there's particles that have

0:50:39.200 --> 0:50:41.640
<v Speaker 1>positive and negative and neutral charges, but that has that's

0:50:41.719 --> 0:50:44.360
<v Speaker 1>nothing to do with magnetic polarity, all right, And this

0:50:44.480 --> 0:50:48.359
<v Speaker 1>is this is all based on his writings and I guess, well,

0:50:48.520 --> 0:50:51.160
<v Speaker 1>but I a little bit want to think about it

0:50:51.440 --> 0:50:56.040
<v Speaker 1>in terms of like the nineteen thirties and forties right

0:50:56.200 --> 0:50:58.360
<v Speaker 1>when he was writing it, because we've made some pretty

0:50:58.400 --> 0:51:03.040
<v Speaker 1>significant advances in our understanding of things like that. Yeah,

0:51:03.719 --> 0:51:07.120
<v Speaker 1>but well, let's let's let's get off of the the

0:51:07.440 --> 0:51:11.960
<v Speaker 1>let's let's back to debate the theories of magnets. I

0:51:12.040 --> 0:51:14.279
<v Speaker 1>do not want to get into any more of that.

0:51:14.360 --> 0:51:16.000
<v Speaker 1>But what I do want to point out this is

0:51:16.200 --> 0:51:19.600
<v Speaker 1>this is something that people who believe that he was

0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 1>making this anti gravity beam is they say that Ed

0:51:23.960 --> 0:51:29.279
<v Speaker 1>was using a perpetual motion device and that's how he

0:51:29.520 --> 0:51:32.000
<v Speaker 1>was able to to change the polarity of things. And

0:51:32.080 --> 0:51:35.320
<v Speaker 1>make them float. And they also said that he had

0:51:35.680 --> 0:51:39.800
<v Speaker 1>a machine that would run a charge into the property

0:51:39.840 --> 0:51:42.200
<v Speaker 1>to help him do this. And he does have a

0:51:43.040 --> 0:51:47.680
<v Speaker 1>very crude electro magnetic crank in in the building of

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:53.880
<v Speaker 1>the castle that he built. It could generate electricity. It

0:51:54.000 --> 0:51:56.120
<v Speaker 1>had a copper coil, and all that which is the

0:51:56.239 --> 0:51:58.279
<v Speaker 1>coil is gone, all the all the guts that are

0:51:58.320 --> 0:52:01.879
<v Speaker 1>basically gone anymore. But they there was evidently two lights

0:52:01.960 --> 0:52:03.920
<v Speaker 1>on the property, and people say, well, if he was

0:52:04.080 --> 0:52:06.440
<v Speaker 1>using that, it would only work as long as ed

0:52:06.600 --> 0:52:09.480
<v Speaker 1>was there to turn the crank, which defeats the purpose

0:52:09.560 --> 0:52:12.600
<v Speaker 1>of having lights. So maybe he had some way to

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:16.240
<v Speaker 1>keep it going, which would maybe be his perpetual motion device,

0:52:16.480 --> 0:52:19.360
<v Speaker 1>or maybe he he was in capturing the energy. I mean,

0:52:19.400 --> 0:52:21.640
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of it there. He could have actually

0:52:21.760 --> 0:52:24.400
<v Speaker 1>just kidnapped people and held them prisoner and made them

0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.839
<v Speaker 1>turn the crank. It wasn't there isn't there a way

0:52:26.880 --> 0:52:30.440
<v Speaker 1>to store that perpetual motion a battery kind of yeah,

0:52:30.480 --> 0:52:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I mean he would build u an electrical charging like

0:52:32.560 --> 0:52:35.200
<v Speaker 1>a like a hand crank radio, you know how they

0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:36.759
<v Speaker 1>used to do it. You wouldn't have to have like

0:52:36.920 --> 0:52:39.160
<v Speaker 1>content they have Usually the devices like that have a

0:52:39.239 --> 0:52:41.279
<v Speaker 1>capacity which is kind of like a battery if you

0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>hold to charge, you know, and it can discharge the

0:52:44.360 --> 0:52:46.759
<v Speaker 1>charge much faster than a battery. So he would have

0:52:46.920 --> 0:52:50.000
<v Speaker 1>maybe had something. He probably had a capacitor or maybe

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.680
<v Speaker 1>battery or something, and so maybe he was cranking it up,

0:52:52.920 --> 0:52:55.959
<v Speaker 1>charging up this device and then going using it. Yeah,

0:52:57.280 --> 0:52:59.160
<v Speaker 1>we don't know exactly what the thing did, because, like

0:52:59.239 --> 0:53:03.040
<v Speaker 1>I said, the you're gone, Yeah they were gone. But yeah, yeah,

0:53:03.200 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>so but anyway, I moved them before I went to

0:53:05.239 --> 0:53:08.880
<v Speaker 1>the hospital. But yeah, anyway, I mean and apparently somebody,

0:53:09.000 --> 0:53:12.279
<v Speaker 1>somebody nipped in there and stole a perpetual emotion machine too. Yeah,

0:53:14.760 --> 0:53:17.840
<v Speaker 1>nobody's ever seen I you know, I think that somebody's

0:53:17.880 --> 0:53:20.680
<v Speaker 1>having a little fun with us at this point. They're larning.

0:53:20.800 --> 0:53:22.759
<v Speaker 1>They're larning on the hoaxes one on the other so

0:53:23.000 --> 0:53:26.160
<v Speaker 1>so thickly that you know, they're obviously just they're pulling

0:53:26.200 --> 0:53:29.960
<v Speaker 1>a insulting our intelligence here. Perpetual emotional machine. Come on, dudes, Yeah,

0:53:30.000 --> 0:53:35.600
<v Speaker 1>I mean, yeah, there actually no, I actually think there

0:53:35.680 --> 0:53:38.000
<v Speaker 1>was a stronger there's stronger evidence for the existence of

0:53:42.239 --> 0:53:49.160
<v Speaker 1>than there is perpetual perpetual motion machines. Okay, let's let's

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:52.320
<v Speaker 1>keep going, let's move ahead. Yeah, okay, Remember I said

0:53:52.400 --> 0:53:55.720
<v Speaker 1>that Ed worked at night, Yeah, because that way nobody

0:53:55.840 --> 0:53:59.800
<v Speaker 1>could see him. There's a story out there from a

0:54:00.280 --> 0:54:03.319
<v Speaker 1>group of high school students at the time, and they

0:54:04.040 --> 0:54:06.800
<v Speaker 1>they said that one time they went out there and

0:54:06.960 --> 0:54:10.000
<v Speaker 1>they saw Ed singing to the stones and he was

0:54:10.080 --> 0:54:12.319
<v Speaker 1>pushing them around and they were floating like they were

0:54:12.440 --> 0:54:17.160
<v Speaker 1>hydrogen filled balloons. Sorry, yeah, I'm sorry. You know, the

0:54:17.280 --> 0:54:19.200
<v Speaker 1>first half of that was really the part they got

0:54:19.239 --> 0:54:22.360
<v Speaker 1>me singing to the stones. Yeah, yeah, evidently had a

0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:25.320
<v Speaker 1>great singing voice. I don't know ro so he was

0:54:26.239 --> 0:54:30.239
<v Speaker 1>he was charming the stones. Yeah. Well, people have pointed out,

0:54:30.280 --> 0:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>you know, it was probably a couple of kids who

0:54:32.000 --> 0:54:34.440
<v Speaker 1>got busted for being out after curfew and made up

0:54:34.520 --> 0:54:37.520
<v Speaker 1>this crazy story so the cops wouldn't get after him

0:54:37.560 --> 0:54:40.680
<v Speaker 1>for that. Maybe go look, try to divert attention from themselves.

0:54:41.520 --> 0:54:44.360
<v Speaker 1>But then I also heard a really good idea of

0:54:44.560 --> 0:54:47.400
<v Speaker 1>why Ed worked at night because it's hot, because he

0:54:47.480 --> 0:54:50.960
<v Speaker 1>lived in southern Florida and it's super hot in the day.

0:54:51.120 --> 0:54:53.480
<v Speaker 1>And remember back back in those days, they didn't have

0:54:53.600 --> 0:54:58.480
<v Speaker 1>that magical stuff called sunscreen or air conditioning. Yeah, so yeah,

0:54:59.160 --> 0:55:00.799
<v Speaker 1>he lived in a stone house. He didn't have air

0:55:00.840 --> 0:55:05.960
<v Speaker 1>conditioning either way. But uh yeah, having lived in here

0:55:06.040 --> 0:55:10.680
<v Speaker 1>in Florida in part of the summer hot, it's hot

0:55:10.800 --> 0:55:14.759
<v Speaker 1>as hell. And it's not only hot, it's muggy. I mean,

0:55:14.880 --> 0:55:16.640
<v Speaker 1>you know a lot of places you you can kind

0:55:16.640 --> 0:55:20.600
<v Speaker 1>of understand what hot, but until it's you know, just

0:55:21.200 --> 0:55:24.320
<v Speaker 1>sopping wet air. It should rain but it can't, and

0:55:24.400 --> 0:55:28.800
<v Speaker 1>all of that water is to you don't really know

0:55:28.920 --> 0:55:31.359
<v Speaker 1>what heat is. Yeah, I know, I've been. I've been,

0:55:31.520 --> 0:55:33.759
<v Speaker 1>like I was in Kansas City in July one time,

0:55:33.880 --> 0:55:36.800
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that. Yeah, it was super muggy and

0:55:37.080 --> 0:55:39.680
<v Speaker 1>just hotter degrees out and you felt like you're gonna

0:55:39.760 --> 0:55:43.560
<v Speaker 1>melt the salk. You kind of wanted to. It was,

0:55:43.680 --> 0:55:46.160
<v Speaker 1>and every every place that I see cold air conditioning.

0:55:46.200 --> 0:55:49.439
<v Speaker 1>So I would walk into a shop whatever, it's like, yeah,

0:55:49.480 --> 0:55:51.120
<v Speaker 1>it's so great. But then you walk back out and

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it's like he's slapped in the face with a wet,

0:55:53.120 --> 0:55:59.000
<v Speaker 1>hot tower. It's it's like a real life sauna. Yeah,

0:56:00.120 --> 0:56:03.799
<v Speaker 1>it's it's not pleasant, not pleasant at all. The last

0:56:03.800 --> 0:56:06.719
<v Speaker 1>thing that I've got here for is is what I

0:56:06.880 --> 0:56:12.440
<v Speaker 1>refer to as the number set. Okay, when you look

0:56:12.480 --> 0:56:16.839
<v Speaker 1>at the photos of the property, there's pictures of Ed's

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:21.040
<v Speaker 1>standing next to uh an area where he has engraved

0:56:21.120 --> 0:56:24.359
<v Speaker 1>in the rocks, when he was born, when he moved

0:56:24.400 --> 0:56:27.360
<v Speaker 1>the property, all this, you know, kind of biographical stuff.

0:56:27.719 --> 0:56:29.600
<v Speaker 1>But when you go into the second floor of the

0:56:29.680 --> 0:56:33.160
<v Speaker 1>castle to part where he lived in on the side

0:56:33.200 --> 0:56:35.320
<v Speaker 1>of one of the stones, there is a set of

0:56:35.440 --> 0:56:38.280
<v Speaker 1>numbers etched in and they are seven, one, two nine.

0:56:38.840 --> 0:56:44.680
<v Speaker 1>There's a line break six zero five one phone number.

0:56:45.400 --> 0:56:48.640
<v Speaker 1>It's not a phone number. People say that, oh, well

0:56:48.920 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 1>Ed must have figured out something. And this is if

0:56:51.239 --> 0:56:53.360
<v Speaker 1>we can just understand that this this is totally a

0:56:53.480 --> 0:56:57.360
<v Speaker 1>reference to the prime ridiant number. Once we get it,

0:56:57.440 --> 0:57:01.400
<v Speaker 1>we'll totally get it. Well, Dan, isn't it just the

0:57:01.520 --> 0:57:07.000
<v Speaker 1>meridian line the longitude? Yeah, it's it's latitude and longitude essentially.

0:57:07.360 --> 0:57:10.120
<v Speaker 1>So that would be wrong. Yeah, that's not It doesn't

0:57:10.120 --> 0:57:13.080
<v Speaker 1>even make that's nonsensical because it would have to be

0:57:13.239 --> 0:57:16.240
<v Speaker 1>between one and three d and sixty degrees. That would

0:57:16.280 --> 0:57:18.120
<v Speaker 1>make it. Well, I mean it could be degrees. Man,

0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.040
<v Speaker 1>it's the second So yeah, I guess it could, you know,

0:57:21.120 --> 0:57:24.360
<v Speaker 1>But I think there's a simpler answer for what these are. Yeah, well,

0:57:24.480 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>that's that's actually, you know, I mean I think that

0:57:27.880 --> 0:57:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he probably put serial numbers on all of this blocks

0:57:30.760 --> 0:57:37.320
<v Speaker 1>of stone, had a barcode, you could just can it. No, Actually,

0:57:37.400 --> 0:57:40.680
<v Speaker 1>the stuff that I've come across does have the simpler answer,

0:57:40.880 --> 0:57:46.040
<v Speaker 1>which is that is his immigrant I D number immigrant

0:57:46.080 --> 0:57:49.160
<v Speaker 1>and alien ID number. Yes, And I actually I did

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:52.440
<v Speaker 1>dig around for a while trying to find out you

0:57:52.480 --> 0:57:55.320
<v Speaker 1>can find out it's a I think it's an eight

0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.280
<v Speaker 1>digit number. Now, is what I D numbers are for

0:57:58.360 --> 0:58:02.080
<v Speaker 1>the the immigrant alien I D number. And we used

0:58:02.080 --> 0:58:04.680
<v Speaker 1>to well, actually we did. You know, the thing is

0:58:04.720 --> 0:58:06.520
<v Speaker 1>back and that that was at the time when he

0:58:06.680 --> 0:58:09.200
<v Speaker 1>came to the States, which is around nineteen eighteen where

0:58:09.280 --> 0:58:12.600
<v Speaker 1>we were having the Great European influx, so there was

0:58:12.760 --> 0:58:16.520
<v Speaker 1>tons of people pouring through Ellis Island and I was

0:58:16.600 --> 0:58:19.080
<v Speaker 1>doing a bunch of looking trying to find out how

0:58:19.200 --> 0:58:23.240
<v Speaker 1>many digits were in those I D numbers, and I

0:58:23.800 --> 0:58:26.720
<v Speaker 1>couldn't find it. It's just it's one of those historical

0:58:26.840 --> 0:58:29.200
<v Speaker 1>things where I think it's probably in a picture, not

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:31.640
<v Speaker 1>in text form, and so I kept pouring through all

0:58:31.680 --> 0:58:34.480
<v Speaker 1>these tags and not finding it. But people say, you

0:58:34.560 --> 0:58:37.040
<v Speaker 1>know what, that's his immigrant I D number because it

0:58:37.160 --> 0:58:40.600
<v Speaker 1>was not an uncommon practice for people to say I'm

0:58:40.600 --> 0:58:43.560
<v Speaker 1>gonna etch this into my doorway, so people know that's

0:58:43.600 --> 0:58:46.680
<v Speaker 1>me and this is where I live, which really makes

0:58:46.680 --> 0:58:48.640
<v Speaker 1>a lot of sense. Yeah, the thing that I saw

0:58:48.840 --> 0:58:50.840
<v Speaker 1>was that it was the alien I D number and

0:58:50.920 --> 0:58:53.560
<v Speaker 1>the immigrant ID number. So the alien idea was the

0:58:53.640 --> 0:58:56.760
<v Speaker 1>first one. So it was his I D number that

0:58:56.840 --> 0:58:59.440
<v Speaker 1>he was given when he first like came before he

0:58:59.600 --> 0:59:03.520
<v Speaker 1>was in any kind of citizens and then his immigrant

0:59:03.640 --> 0:59:08.200
<v Speaker 1>status was the second, and that would make sense, that

0:59:08.520 --> 0:59:12.000
<v Speaker 1>would make seven digit. Yeah, okay, that makes a lot

0:59:12.000 --> 0:59:15.240
<v Speaker 1>of sense. And obviously I feel like I shouldn't have

0:59:15.320 --> 0:59:18.880
<v Speaker 1>to say this, but I'm gonna from another country, not

0:59:19.040 --> 0:59:21.640
<v Speaker 1>another world. You don't mean you know people who like

0:59:22.080 --> 0:59:24.840
<v Speaker 1>you know how I love my Martian theories. I know.

0:59:25.400 --> 0:59:32.200
<v Speaker 1>But this guy, he was little, maybe he was at

0:59:33.160 --> 0:59:35.400
<v Speaker 1>he was a little dude. It was a little dude

0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:39.520
<v Speaker 1>with a really big head. Now he looked pretty human

0:59:39.560 --> 0:59:42.959
<v Speaker 1>and all the pictures he just looks like a small human.

0:59:43.640 --> 0:59:46.600
<v Speaker 1>It looks Latvian, and they actually I had no idea

0:59:46.640 --> 0:59:50.440
<v Speaker 1>what Latvian. He looks like a normal being. And of

0:59:50.480 --> 0:59:52.240
<v Speaker 1>course people back in those days, you know, there's a

0:59:52.240 --> 0:59:54.680
<v Speaker 1>lot more abound nutrition floating around in those days, and

0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:58.439
<v Speaker 1>so tended to be a bit smaller. What the what's

0:59:58.440 --> 1:00:02.160
<v Speaker 1>her name Winchester, the woman who built the Winchester home

1:00:03.080 --> 1:00:07.520
<v Speaker 1>in California. Yeah, she was like four nine, if you go.

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:10.800
<v Speaker 1>I went to her house one time, and the Winchester house.

1:00:10.920 --> 1:00:13.120
<v Speaker 1>I did know. I was at their house. It's so

1:00:13.240 --> 1:00:16.440
<v Speaker 1>frustrated because I was actually that's like San Jose, right,

1:00:16.920 --> 1:00:19.480
<v Speaker 1>I was actually there one time. This was a while back,

1:00:19.640 --> 1:00:21.800
<v Speaker 1>and uh and I just didn't have time. I even

1:00:21.840 --> 1:00:25.000
<v Speaker 1>saw science saying Winchester house this way. You know, it's

1:00:25.040 --> 1:00:29.240
<v Speaker 1>really fun frustrated. She actually built staircases that really that

1:00:29.400 --> 1:00:33.640
<v Speaker 1>was well, no, she built staircases. They're like normal people staircases,

1:00:33.680 --> 1:00:36.840
<v Speaker 1>and then like her staircases because she was so little

1:00:37.360 --> 1:00:39.320
<v Speaker 1>that she just wanted to have her own little like

1:00:39.560 --> 1:00:42.160
<v Speaker 1>I went up one and I was like hunched over,

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:44.640
<v Speaker 1>like trying to go up these tiny little stairs because

1:00:44.680 --> 1:00:46.800
<v Speaker 1>she just, like I wanted all these little stairs. But

1:00:46.840 --> 1:00:48.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, she was kind of a contemporary

1:00:48.600 --> 1:00:51.800
<v Speaker 1>at that age. That's a that's a thing people were smaller.

1:00:52.800 --> 1:00:58.720
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's where you were going at expanded.

1:00:58.920 --> 1:01:01.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you noticed this like you know, and travels

1:01:01.120 --> 1:01:04.560
<v Speaker 1>to Europe. You know, I've seen very very old buildings

1:01:04.760 --> 1:01:08.960
<v Speaker 1>and the doorways and I am normal. Yeah, I say,

1:01:08.960 --> 1:01:11.320
<v Speaker 1>I've seen yeah, a lot of really ancient buildings where

1:01:11.360 --> 1:01:13.440
<v Speaker 1>the churches and stuff. Yeah, yeah, you got a duck.

1:01:13.800 --> 1:01:15.320
<v Speaker 1>It's like five and a half feet is how high

1:01:15.360 --> 1:01:19.200
<v Speaker 1>to the door is. Building codes were a little different

1:01:19.240 --> 1:01:21.240
<v Speaker 1>back in those days. They didn't have them. They didn't

1:01:21.280 --> 1:01:23.120
<v Speaker 1>have them. For number one, there were two people were

1:01:23.120 --> 1:01:26.680
<v Speaker 1>all five feet tall. This is very true. Well anyway, Yeah,

1:01:27.440 --> 1:01:29.520
<v Speaker 1>that's that's kind of the that's that's what we know

1:01:29.560 --> 1:01:32.480
<v Speaker 1>about Corral Castle, and those are the main the main

1:01:32.600 --> 1:01:36.880
<v Speaker 1>theories on how people think Ed made the place. Yeah,

1:01:37.080 --> 1:01:38.920
<v Speaker 1>I think, and I think it's fair to say. I

1:01:39.000 --> 1:01:41.560
<v Speaker 1>think for our listeners again, uh, do a do a

1:01:41.640 --> 1:01:44.640
<v Speaker 1>google on Wally Wallington, look at some of his techniques,

1:01:44.880 --> 1:01:49.360
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think that there's a very easy

1:01:49.800 --> 1:01:53.800
<v Speaker 1>explainable explanation for this. I don't think supernatural things, anti

1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:58.840
<v Speaker 1>gravity or magnetic whatever really accounts for any of this. Yeah,

1:01:59.240 --> 1:02:00.600
<v Speaker 1>that's what I think. What do you guys think? So

1:02:00.720 --> 1:02:02.520
<v Speaker 1>you don't even have to ask the question, because Joe's

1:02:02.560 --> 1:02:06.160
<v Speaker 1>just answering on already. Yeah, I think so. You think

1:02:06.160 --> 1:02:10.240
<v Speaker 1>the magnetic lay lines, right, Yeah, she likes those magnetic lines.

1:02:10.480 --> 1:02:13.960
<v Speaker 1>I think ancient alien technology should not be counted out. No,

1:02:14.400 --> 1:02:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I think I think that probably this whole This is

1:02:18.040 --> 1:02:20.919
<v Speaker 1>so frustrating to say, but I kind of agree with Joe.

1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:23.640
<v Speaker 1>You know, we all watched that video together and it

1:02:23.760 --> 1:02:28.440
<v Speaker 1>was just kind of like a crap, Like, Nan, you're

1:02:28.440 --> 1:02:32.840
<v Speaker 1>taking away all my fun theories with reason and actual science. No,

1:02:33.240 --> 1:02:35.840
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing? Actually, this just occurs to me.

1:02:35.840 --> 1:02:37.240
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if any of you guys have played

1:02:37.320 --> 1:02:41.640
<v Speaker 1>Half Life too. No, yeah, but Half Life Too. There's

1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:43.640
<v Speaker 1>just one special thing that you get, and it's not

1:02:43.760 --> 1:02:46.160
<v Speaker 1>exactly a weapon. I forget what they call it, but

1:02:46.240 --> 1:02:48.080
<v Speaker 1>you can use it to pick up just anything. You

1:02:48.120 --> 1:02:50.400
<v Speaker 1>can pick up a car with it. Maybe it's that

1:02:50.800 --> 1:02:54.240
<v Speaker 1>maybe this guy you know, actually like you know, got

1:02:54.360 --> 1:02:57.320
<v Speaker 1>this this special tool that we should in Half Life Too.

1:02:58.520 --> 1:03:00.040
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we just say that he was praying it

1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:10.160
<v Speaker 1>and was having crazy mom strength trying to protect his children. Okay,

1:03:10.160 --> 1:03:16.440
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go with that. I personally, I think that

1:03:16.600 --> 1:03:20.720
<v Speaker 1>it is probably a combination. I think that it is

1:03:20.800 --> 1:03:24.440
<v Speaker 1>a combination of the standard block and tackle and then

1:03:24.680 --> 1:03:33.720
<v Speaker 1>some very rudimentary version of the Primerradian. The stuff that

1:03:33.760 --> 1:03:37.280
<v Speaker 1>Wellington was doing, I don't know that he maybe took

1:03:37.320 --> 1:03:39.760
<v Speaker 1>it as far, but I think that he was doing

1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:43.160
<v Speaker 1>something basic. You got to remember, this is not a

1:03:43.320 --> 1:03:47.560
<v Speaker 1>huge place. I'm guessing that there. I mean, the walls

1:03:47.880 --> 1:03:50.120
<v Speaker 1>I know must have taken him a long time because

1:03:50.160 --> 1:03:53.600
<v Speaker 1>there's a lot of walls. But the things that he built,

1:03:53.920 --> 1:03:56.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, he worked on it for thirty

1:03:56.200 --> 1:04:00.880
<v Speaker 1>years and there's a couple dozen structures or objects that

1:04:01.000 --> 1:04:03.760
<v Speaker 1>he's arranged and put together aside from the walls. So

1:04:04.520 --> 1:04:07.160
<v Speaker 1>this this stuff that Wellington did, he could move it

1:04:07.160 --> 1:04:10.400
<v Speaker 1>around really fast, but I don't think that he necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>was moving in that fast. And I think that he's

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<v Speaker 1>probably working in bits and pieces that much larger than

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<v Speaker 1>he's a Yeah he is. He is a bigger guy

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<v Speaker 1>than Ed. Be honest, I would have taken me much

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<v Speaker 1>longer to do something like that. And that's why I

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<v Speaker 1>think that he's probably doing things in some combination using

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<v Speaker 1>leverage but then using a winch or something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I really that's that's the direction that I think that

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<v Speaker 1>he must have done. I don't think that he used

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<v Speaker 1>the magnetic a line. They don't have a good explanation

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<v Speaker 1>for that box on the top of that whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>tripod is. But you want to know what I think that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that he nailed the poles to the box

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what kept him from flying apart. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>t P and he just drops the box. Okay, he

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<v Speaker 1>three sticks and you lean them up against each other

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<v Speaker 1>and they make that kind of little inverted t P

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<v Speaker 1>at the top, and then you drop the box over him,

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<v Speaker 1>and the box keeps him from sheering sideways. Drop a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of nails, and then the things don't pull apart.

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<v Speaker 1>I think as simple as that, it could be as

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<v Speaker 1>simple as the box was like something that was manufactured

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<v Speaker 1>that actually held that held held the poles there. They

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<v Speaker 1>were actually essentially hinged all together. So imagine if if

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<v Speaker 1>he's got this thing and he wants to move it

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<v Speaker 1>over five ft right, so he could pick up one

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<v Speaker 1>of these things, move it over, and then pick up

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<v Speaker 1>the other ones and move them over, and you can

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<v Speaker 1>do it kind of like that, as long as he's

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<v Speaker 1>got this thing where they're all held together in hand

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<v Speaker 1>and so they have a certain bit of leverage, but

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<v Speaker 1>not too much. Yeah, yeah, so they can't go too

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<v Speaker 1>far one way or the other. But yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that might I think that they were just there to

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<v Speaker 1>hold the top together. Yeah, it could have been it too.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, I mean yeah, that makes sense. I mean yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just being contradictory at this point. Yeah, just because

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<v Speaker 1>do some anti gravity and we're gonna I'm gonna I'm

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<v Speaker 1>Jets car. Yeah, gasoline powered anti gravity car. Anyway, So long, folks,

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