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Speaker 1: And as Joe likes to say, we have another hard

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Speaker 1: Not really? No? No, Well, let's let's talk about today's Okay,

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Speaker 1: that was easy. Oh so we weren't really in Florida

425
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:08,719
Speaker 1: in the n We were, but while you two were

426
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 1: talking and you're eating your snacks, all right, we time

427
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:19,560
Speaker 1: machined there but transported back. Yeah, we're mixing, mixing, all right.

428
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 1: So I mean we talked about the fact that Ed

429
00:24:23,000 --> 00:24:27,680
Speaker 1: was a little guy. Yeah, and the stone that Coral

430
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: Castle is built out of. They say that it is

431
00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 1: eleven hundred tons of stone that he erected, that he carved. Well,

432
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: that's that's a lot of rock for one little guy.

433
00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: Some of it, they said, was corried like right out

434
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: the back of his property, right. I don't remember which

435
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:51,280
Speaker 1: property it was, it was the new second property. I

436
00:24:51,320 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: wonder if that's why that must have played a factor

437
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,880
Speaker 1: and his reasoning to buy the new place a place

438
00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:59,879
Speaker 1: where you Yeah, that must have been a big factor.

439
00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:01,760
Speaker 1: So I guess you know, that's a little bit of

440
00:25:01,840 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: a side note to add to the understanding of this

441
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:06,919
Speaker 1: whole thing. And I think we talked a little bit

442
00:25:06,960 --> 00:25:10,359
Speaker 1: about Ed was very secretive and he didn't tell people

443
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 1: how he had how he built all this stuff. People

444
00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,920
Speaker 1: don't always ask him. And this will this will go

445
00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 1: right into our first theory, which is that Ed discovered

446
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 1: the secret of the Egyptians, the ancient Egyptian spy. That's

447
00:25:25,000 --> 00:25:27,480
Speaker 1: what he said. Do you think maybe had a way

448
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 1: back machine too? Man? Did everybody have one of these?

449
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 1: Not everybody? I swear that the guy that I bought

450
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:37,000
Speaker 1: this from said it was one of a kind. I

451
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:43,440
Speaker 1: also played. Yeah, yeah, he was kind of weird guy.

452
00:25:44,200 --> 00:25:46,920
Speaker 1: Well Ed said that he had discovered the secrets of

453
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,200
Speaker 1: the Pyramids and that's all he would ever tell people

454
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:53,400
Speaker 1: when they would ask him how he was was doing

455
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:56,320
Speaker 1: it again, he wouldn't give out a lot of information.

456
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,560
Speaker 1: But the only thing he would say besides the secrets

457
00:25:59,600 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: of the pards was that he understood the laws of

458
00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: weight and leverage. Well, yeah, like write a pamphlet to

459
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,399
Speaker 1: that effect here, Yeah he did. But still didn't explain

460
00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: exactly how he used weight and leverage. Yeah, he kind

461
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 1: of he kind of kept it under his hat, right, Yeah,

462
00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,359
Speaker 1: because you know, if I discover a secret, I'm not

463
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,000
Speaker 1: going to tell anybody, but there's it for myself. But

464
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: there does happen to be a guy who's alive right

465
00:26:25,160 --> 00:26:27,520
Speaker 1: now today who has figured a bunch of this stuff out,

466
00:26:27,800 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: Mr Wally Wallington. Really Wallington duously lives in Michigan. Which

467
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,920
Speaker 1: it turns out that both Devan and I have relatives living. Yeah,

468
00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: and I guess did it weren't we earlier saying that

469
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:45,480
Speaker 1: we thought that this guy's family was maybe in Michigan. Yeah,

470
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 1: I believe it was Michigan. Was where the distant relative

471
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: who inherent property. Yeah, there's always there's always a Michigan connection. Yeah.

472
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,479
Speaker 1: But anyway, um, yeah, so Wally and and just if

473
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,200
Speaker 1: any of you want to do a quick google on

474
00:27:01,320 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 1: Wally Wallington YouTube and you can you can watch the

475
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:08,040
Speaker 1: videos of this guy moving around massive massive chunks of

476
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:12,800
Speaker 1: concrete ads stones. Really interesting. He moves a barn at

477
00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: one point, like an actual barn, huge little without without machinery.

478
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 1: Now he's using two by fours and counterweights and some

479
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: rocks and some literally little little, small little rocks and

480
00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: just leveraging things around, and it's it's amazing to watch. Yeah,

481
00:27:30,040 --> 00:27:32,960
Speaker 1: the guys, the guy's pretty ingenious. And you know, usually

482
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: we make fun of people like this, you know, it's

483
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek loving, we make fun of these people.

484
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: But this guy, we all kind of sat around watching

485
00:27:40,000 --> 00:27:41,919
Speaker 1: the video really ready, I think for all of us

486
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,639
Speaker 1: to be like, oh, this is dumb, and we like

487
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: got further into the video and we're like, wait, that

488
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:53,960
Speaker 1: totally makes sense. Thinks that he's handed out how the

489
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: ancient Brits managed to put up stonehead, which is and

490
00:27:57,840 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 1: he actually gives a visual demonstration of himself. He has

491
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 1: by himself putting pounds obelisk and standing it up into

492
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,040
Speaker 1: a hole in the ground. He was moving a several

493
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: ton block. He said he could move at three feet

494
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 1: in a day, at an hour. At in an hour,

495
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,640
Speaker 1: he says, it's a massive block, and he's using two

496
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: small round stones. He can basically screwch it back and

497
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,399
Speaker 1: forth over these stones and just pivoted on these on

498
00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: these two different stones. Now we should go ahead and

499
00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:32,720
Speaker 1: like make sure that everybody knows that, at least in

500
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,480
Speaker 1: these videos. Everything he showed when he was scooching these stones,

501
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 1: he was doing it on flat concrete. Told that it

502
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 1: would be way harder to do on like a gravel path,

503
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: grass or something. He has, but he has that other

504
00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:51,200
Speaker 1: ingenious method is at the beginning of the video, he

505
00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 1: built the thing out of wood. That is basically, so

506
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 1: if you like take and he had like this massive

507
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:59,880
Speaker 1: chunk of concrete that was like like like a wrecked

508
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:03,400
Speaker 1: angular concrete, but it was square if you look at

509
00:29:03,440 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: it on end, and so if you take uh, so

510
00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: let's let's say that that is so let's say three

511
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:13,920
Speaker 1: ft on one side. Then he basically built a structure

512
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,760
Speaker 1: and it's like got these semi circles, and the distance

513
00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:19,480
Speaker 1: around the radius of that thing for each one of

514
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,560
Speaker 1: these semicircles is also three ft same as the rock, right,

515
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,080
Speaker 1: a stone he's making. And then basically this thing is

516
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: a whole series of these semi circles pointing upwards. And

517
00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: he was just rolling that thing across that a massive,

518
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: massive chuckle, square concrete and he was just rolling it

519
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,720
Speaker 1: right across there well by hand. It was yeah, yeah,

520
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: that was amazing, And really it's disturbing, and I believe

521
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:46,120
Speaker 1: his he says. I believe he said at one point,

522
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to do this without any mechanical machinery used.

523
00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 1: And it is. It's two by fours and a couple

524
00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 1: of rocks fours and some and some concrete weights, just

525
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: using weights and stuff. And yeah, it's really cool. And

526
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,840
Speaker 1: if if Ed used that same technique, that would explain

527
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:08,240
Speaker 1: how he moved all these huge stones and how he

528
00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: levered him into place. Yea, if this is this, if

529
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: this technique is also what the ancient Egyptians used, which

530
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: currently modern science thinks that they just did it all

531
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: the hard way with you know, thousands of thousands of slaves,

532
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:28,400
Speaker 1: divers dragging these things along logs and logs and logs. Actually,

533
00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 1: although actually there's a there's a more recent theory that

534
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 1: they actually um poured the blocks of the pyramids in place.

535
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: Actually that instead of Corey and them and dragging them

536
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:44,280
Speaker 1: for a long distance, they actually poured him in place. Yeah,

537
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,040
Speaker 1: kind of crew concrete in place. That is one theory.

538
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,600
Speaker 1: And they made him on the spot so I didn't

539
00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,360
Speaker 1: have to drag him, so I still had to drag

540
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,760
Speaker 1: weapons into place. Well, but here's here's the crazy thing.

541
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:56,800
Speaker 1: The pyramids. They figure right now it took twenty years

542
00:30:56,880 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: to make each pyramid, and they say that it required

543
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: a labor force of one D two hundred thousand people.

544
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:10,120
Speaker 1: If they're using the same techniques that Wally Wallington and

545
00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: ed theoretically might have been using, it would have actually

546
00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: only taken about five thousand men, which is a huge

547
00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 1: reduction in labor force themselves. Says, you know, it's it's

548
00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: quite possible that the ancient Breads who put up Stonehenge,

549
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,479
Speaker 1: and it was actually it's quite possible, was a much

550
00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: much smaller crew than anybody up to now is ever believed.

551
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:33,880
Speaker 1: I believe we said when we were watching that video

552
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 1: that maybe it just was one weird Yeah, exactly, what

553
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: does Fred do it? He playing with rocks? So what

554
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,560
Speaker 1: are the theories do we have here? Well, we've got

555
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,960
Speaker 1: magnetic A lines. You all know what magnetic A lines are, right, yeah? Yeah, thertex. Yes,

556
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 1: they're the supposed magnetic lines that run through the earth

557
00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 1: and where they cross they have strange properties. Vortex exactly.

558
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:05,720
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep saying the Oregan vortex, right. Yes,

559
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: Actually I've heard about it, but I've never been should

560
00:32:09,160 --> 00:32:11,520
Speaker 1: I should go? It's not that far away. Not so.

561
00:32:12,120 --> 00:32:17,440
Speaker 1: According to Ed, he said that he could see the

562
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: magnetic properties of things because he understood the natural magnetism

563
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: of everything, and that he saw all these magnetic properties

564
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: as beads of light, so that he could actually visualize them,

565
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: and so he would see it and he would know

566
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: where the magnetic lines were to then use those. There's

567
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 1: there's talk that the reason that he moved Coral Castle

568
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:46,920
Speaker 1: wasn't because of a subdivision, but because he realized that

569
00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:49,960
Speaker 1: there was better lay lines somewhere else, which happened to

570
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: be his new property, and that's why he moved everything.

571
00:32:53,000 --> 00:33:00,200
Speaker 1: There is TV hallucinations. Yeah, and that that theory that

572
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: that Ed moved everything that's put out by an author

573
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 1: who's got the awesome name of Race Stoner. Yeah yeah,

574
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,640
Speaker 1: but yeah, according to Stoner, he says that that's why

575
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: it was. It was that. There's another author named B. J.

576
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: Cathy who is purported to be an authority on grid dynamics.

577
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 1: Well that's the I'm I'm an authority on hat wearing

578
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: property dynamics. You know how I am an authority on that?

579
00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:41,040
Speaker 1: I just made it up. Okay, Well, and I'm going

580
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:45,800
Speaker 1: to read directly from this just so I can explain

581
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:49,200
Speaker 1: this properly, at least say it properly. There exists in

582
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: all encompassy global grid with direct harmonic relationship to the

583
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 1: speed of light, gravity, magnetics, and earth mass. All major

584
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,240
Speaker 1: changes of the physical state are about my harmonic interactions

585
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: of these manifestations. The controlled manipulation of these forces would

586
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:10,520
Speaker 1: make it possible to instantaneously move mass from one point

587
00:34:10,600 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: to another in space time. The measurements from Coral Castle

588
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:21,320
Speaker 1: yield harmonics related to light and gravity. The distance between

589
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: Coral Castle and grid Pole A in the north to

590
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 1: spell any doubt that the site being an ideal position

591
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,800
Speaker 1: to allow ed leads Scalnan to erect the huge blocks

592
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: of Coral with relative ease. Measurements indicate the harmonics necessary

593
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: for the manipulation of anti gravity listeners, Can I hear

594
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:46,359
Speaker 1: real for you? With you? You can't get behind this one.

595
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:50,680
Speaker 1: Turn my hat backwards on, sitting my chair backwards. Okay,

596
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,319
Speaker 1: get it real with you? How to get a starburst

597
00:34:54,760 --> 00:34:57,040
Speaker 1: right now? While Steve was reading that to not burst

598
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 1: out into rain and by the way, this is not

599
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: product place are delicious? No, I had to put a

600
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: candy in my mouth, because I would not out burst

601
00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:13,520
Speaker 1: out into rage, just like what what what? It's just crap,

602
00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:16,840
Speaker 1: you know what, Like like just to take one one phrase,

603
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,560
Speaker 1: make it possible to instantaneously move mass from one point

604
00:35:19,600 --> 00:35:23,799
Speaker 1: to another spacetime. I just feel like you're talking about wormholes. Yeah, yeah,

605
00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: I mean instantaneously moving from one to another. Yeah, maybe wormholes.

606
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: I don't know what basically was using wormhole technology. The

607
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 1: call it wormhole technology, not magnetic ley lines. And that's

608
00:35:38,120 --> 00:35:42,760
Speaker 1: the shortest wormhole I've ever seen. Christ Also, the distance

609
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:46,239
Speaker 1: between Coral Castle and Gridpole a in the north you

610
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: mean between the north pole and that and where he

611
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: put his thing, Because if it's a distant thing, then

612
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 1: why aren't people all over the place? Sorry almost swore,

613
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,360
Speaker 1: why are people all over the place on that same

614
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:06,720
Speaker 1: line suddenly like moving their stuff like magic? Because really,

615
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,560
Speaker 1: what she's saying, right is that like, oh, it could

616
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 1: have magically happened, Like what did he just like think it?

617
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: So what happened? Did he have to use some technology

618
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:18,960
Speaker 1: to have it happy? Must have had some special talent,

619
00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,080
Speaker 1: because otherwise wouldn't anybody who pays the business to the

620
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 1: Coral Castle will be able to grab one of those

621
00:36:24,200 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: massive chunks of rock and just move around. And actually,

622
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,080
Speaker 1: let's be fair, I did read a description of Ed

623
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: that said that all all signs pointed to him being

624
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: a modern geomanswer. Yes, Okay, we're just gonna keep going

625
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: on that. There's other claims that the same people who

626
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:44,000
Speaker 1: talk about this global harmonics say that some people when

627
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: they walk through the gate of Coral Castle experience a

628
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: headache because they're just not used to being in that

629
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,520
Speaker 1: strong of a field. Okay, but that's the same thing.

630
00:36:52,560 --> 00:36:54,840
Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about the Oregon wortex for a minute.

631
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:57,000
Speaker 1: I got a headache when I'm there too. You know why,

632
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,279
Speaker 1: because everything is built on a weird keel. Like there's

633
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: a thing that's built totally opposite. There's a cabin that's

634
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: built totally opposite the way that you would assume that

635
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:09,279
Speaker 1: things are. You walk into it and things roll up

636
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:12,319
Speaker 1: hill and like, of course your brain is gonna hurt.

637
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Like I was there once and a woman fainted and

638
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,480
Speaker 1: the woman was like, get her off the magnet line.

639
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: She's having a negative reaction to the magnet line. No,

640
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: she was pregnant and drunk and she yeah, it is

641
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 1: southern Oregon whatever. But I mean it was just kind

642
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: of one of those things where it's like I can

643
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:38,080
Speaker 1: get on board with so many theories, but this one.

644
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: That's why I put this quote in there, because if

645
00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:46,319
Speaker 1: you knew, because it's it does, it is a bit

646
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:48,719
Speaker 1: outland is and it's very hard to get behind, and

647
00:37:48,760 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 1: there are people who are staunch believers in it. I'm

648
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: not going to talk against him, but I don't buy it.

649
00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 1: It's it's a little bit of this gives me actually

650
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 1: hope for the future though, because I have been one

651
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,800
Speaker 1: lately about how to make more money, and you know,

652
00:38:04,080 --> 00:38:07,400
Speaker 1: there's a there really is a bottomless market for this

653
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: kind of crap. It really is, and so I'm thinking

654
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 1: it's time to start writing books about supernatural phenomenon. I mean,

655
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,239
Speaker 1: it's one thing. You know, one of the theories with

656
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: the with the Pyramids is this whole like ancient alien

657
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: technology of you know, they had to use this thing

658
00:38:23,040 --> 00:38:26,160
Speaker 1: and it was an anti gravity force or whatever. I

659
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: can I can get on board without way more than

660
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: this magnetic a line. Oh, in the way that it

661
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 1: was was in proximity to the you know, the North Pole,

662
00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 1: Like that's it's I think that this might be the

663
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,200
Speaker 1: angriest time we've ever managed to get you on this show.

664
00:38:45,480 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: You have to start fighting stories that involved magnetically. Apparently

665
00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: I got to write the Encyclopedia of Magnetically I didn't

666
00:38:57,719 --> 00:39:00,360
Speaker 1: get you. Actually, I really, I really want I'm going

667
00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:02,440
Speaker 1: to really work on this hard and try to come

668
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,439
Speaker 1: up with some incredible piece of just crap to arrive

669
00:39:06,480 --> 00:39:08,840
Speaker 1: on the Magnetic a Lines. Okay, I wanted my my

670
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: very own piece of bs out there, Cyclopedia of Magnetic

671
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:17,839
Speaker 1: air Lines, so that I can write a very honest introduction,

672
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 1: swear word laden introduction, and we'll just see where it goes.

673
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 1: Why don't we before somebody's head explodes, Why don't we

674
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,320
Speaker 1: move forward? Let's go to the next theory, which is

675
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 1: actually pretty simple one. It's basic walking tackle. You're like

676
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:40,440
Speaker 1: alternating yes, and there are there are, by the way,

677
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 1: there are photographs out there of this guy using a great,

678
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,800
Speaker 1: big huge tripod and block and tackle and everything to

679
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,560
Speaker 1: move rocks around. Yeah. Well, and and that's that's the

680
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,040
Speaker 1: thing is You're absolutely right, Joe, and I'll describe this

681
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,520
Speaker 1: for everybody. Is there's there's photos of Ed on the

682
00:39:56,560 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 1: property and he's got three telephone polls and there I

683
00:40:00,840 --> 00:40:02,560
Speaker 1: kind of tried to guess the scale, and I'm gonna

684
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,440
Speaker 1: say they'ret and he's got a cable and chain and

685
00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:11,880
Speaker 1: a lever and pulleys, and he's got a stone lifted up.

686
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:15,080
Speaker 1: So it seems like maybe he was using very basic

687
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,960
Speaker 1: technology to move them. But Steve, there's a black box

688
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: on the top of those polls. Just a second, just

689
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:26,520
Speaker 1: a second there, all right. So my thing is is that, yes,

690
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: this would allow him to raise them up. What I

691
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,040
Speaker 1: don't see is how that would allow him to move

692
00:40:35,160 --> 00:40:38,520
Speaker 1: them horizontally very easily. I'm not saying he didn't use

693
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 1: basic block and tackle, but that doesn't explain how he

694
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:44,480
Speaker 1: did everything, because you looked it up and down. But

695
00:40:44,520 --> 00:40:46,680
Speaker 1: then how do you move it left to right, especially

696
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 1: the ten miles right? Well, but the you know, but

697
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,360
Speaker 1: you can raise it up and then set it on

698
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 1: like like set it on a bunch of logs, like

699
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: the ancient Egyptians just rolled on logs, and you could

700
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: you could maybe the guy had a cart, you know,

701
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:04,320
Speaker 1: with big old wheels on it. You could set the

702
00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,120
Speaker 1: stuff on a cart and then just moved it to

703
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:07,840
Speaker 1: where he needed to. I gotta be honest with you,

704
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:10,960
Speaker 1: I am bigger than he is or was, and I

705
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:15,800
Speaker 1: could not push a stone on a car, even like

706
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:17,880
Speaker 1: a well, but you know the thing is, now that

707
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,719
Speaker 1: I think about it, he could have also. Okay, let's

708
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 1: let's let's run it this way. Let's say he's got

709
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,439
Speaker 1: more than one tripod set up, he's got a cart,

710
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:30,479
Speaker 1: and he sets the other tripod up and then using

711
00:41:30,520 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 1: a wench system and your cart that you came up

712
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,439
Speaker 1: with just pulls it on the cart with a wench

713
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,919
Speaker 1: system across the property. That make a lot of sense, Yeah, because, yeah,

714
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: pushing something that size would be part of the pushing

715
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:44,200
Speaker 1: your car. Yeah, you'd have to. You'd have to you'd

716
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:45,640
Speaker 1: have to tie a rope to it and have a

717
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,600
Speaker 1: winch and something like that. And it's entirely feasible. Yeah, no,

718
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: and it makes sense. And I was I was looking

719
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 1: at it because there's these couple of photos of him

720
00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 1: with this this block and tackle system. But there's not

721
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 1: a lot of reports of people who lived in the

722
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: area seeing this tripod set up all the time. The stories.

723
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Nobody says, oh yeah, we always saw that, you know,

724
00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:12,399
Speaker 1: ed with this silly tripod of of wood erected. Well,

725
00:42:12,520 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 1: I I looked into the census, I was like, well,

726
00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: there's got to be a bunch of people around. It

727
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: was pretty empty area back. It was because when he

728
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:25,480
Speaker 1: moved there, let's see, in the nineteen twenty census in

729
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 1: that city there were hundred people, and by the time

730
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:34,359
Speaker 1: he died around nineteen fifty, there was forty five hundred people.

731
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: And he was and he wasn't He wasn't on the

732
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: main draft and he was out I don't know if

733
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,360
Speaker 1: you want to call it the suburbs. He was. He

734
00:42:42,440 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: was out. And the area that he lived in this

735
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:50,319
Speaker 1: town was fifteen miles across, so it wasn't a big town.

736
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: So we're talking at its peak in nineteen fifty, that's

737
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,080
Speaker 1: four hundred people per square mile, and you know they're

738
00:42:57,080 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: going to be concentrated in mostly one area he owned.

739
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:03,520
Speaker 1: How much of that land did he own? It was

740
00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: a good chunk, wasn't it. You know? That was one

741
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: of the hard parts is that it never says how

742
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:11,400
Speaker 1: much area he actually owned. I couldn't get a handle

743
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,880
Speaker 1: on that. Nobody ever says ed bought X number of

744
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 1: acres or something, right. I guess my understanding is like

745
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: he owned the part that the Coral Castle proper is on, right,

746
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: but he also owned a part where he was coreing

747
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:29,520
Speaker 1: rock behind it and some property property large enough that

748
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: somebody could say like, oh, I didn't even know that

749
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: there was a thing on there. I mean, obviously not huge,

750
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,680
Speaker 1: but I think the sense that I got was that

751
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,680
Speaker 1: it was, you know, it's got to be bigger than

752
00:43:39,719 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: the castle property. Yeah. Absolutely. And we'll step back now

753
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:48,359
Speaker 1: to what you brought up, which is the black box. Yeah,

754
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,880
Speaker 1: in the photo where and that you see of ed

755
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 1: with this stone literally just a little bit off the ground,

756
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 1: there's this funny square, black looking box at the top

757
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 1: of his tripod, balanced on the top. It looks kind

758
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:05,360
Speaker 1: of balanced, and there's he's nailed two buys or some

759
00:44:05,480 --> 00:44:07,800
Speaker 1: kind of sporards on it to make a ladder to

760
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,000
Speaker 1: go up to the top. And some of our more

761
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 1: far flung friends have said that he had some kind

762
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: of device in there that he was to so that

763
00:44:21,239 --> 00:44:23,879
Speaker 1: that and that allowed him to easily lift and move

764
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,800
Speaker 1: the block. So he was keeping that hidden from people.

765
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:30,319
Speaker 1: For a guy you so private, I don't understand when

766
00:44:30,320 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: he let somebody on the property to take a picture

767
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: of him while he was working. Yeah, that's a big

768
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 1: question to me, right, that he seems to have been

769
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: so private he would like stop working. If him they

770
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: wouldn't tell him, or he wouldn't tell them how he

771
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: was doing things. But there's these pictures of him actively

772
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: working on a tripod. There's only two or three. Yeah,

773
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:53,120
Speaker 1: but I have heard stories too that, you know, it

774
00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 1: might be that this whole idea that he was super

775
00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:57,520
Speaker 1: secretive and everything was just a little bit part of

776
00:44:57,560 --> 00:44:59,920
Speaker 1: the mythology of the whole thing, and that he actually,

777
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:02,919
Speaker 1: you know, didn't actually wasn't that upset as people wanted

778
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:04,840
Speaker 1: to show up and hang out and watch him do

779
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: a thing. Yeah, and and and that that could very

780
00:45:08,040 --> 00:45:10,480
Speaker 1: well be. I mean, it's it's hard to say. I

781
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,919
Speaker 1: don't know for sure. So that's block and tackle. Yeah,

782
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 1: let's let's let's go into where next one. Our next

783
00:45:18,840 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 1: one is, well, Devin, are you gonna be okay with this?

784
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:30,680
Speaker 1: It's anti gravity? Are you anti gravity? Praty realized. I mean,

785
00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 1: if we didn't have gravity, we'd be like in space

786
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:38,040
Speaker 1: right now, we'd be like floating around now. No, Yeah,

787
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,080
Speaker 1: I think I mean, just explain it a little more.

788
00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,360
Speaker 1: But I think I'm gonna be less angry about this

789
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,600
Speaker 1: the other So when we talked about ed wrote pamphlets

790
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: and he believed he had a better understanding of science

791
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,120
Speaker 1: than modern science did, and he he was really into

792
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:56,440
Speaker 1: how electricity and electro magnetism worked. That was kind of

793
00:45:56,600 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: his thing. When was Tesla around, Tesla was like, let's

794
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:04,240
Speaker 1: the late nineteenth century, Yeah, the same time as Edison

795
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,400
Speaker 1: he could have been reading about. Yeah, I feel like

796
00:46:07,440 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 1: there was a period of time where people were really

797
00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 1: into this stuff. And that's to correlate a little bit

798
00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 1: with that, and I think ed might have been on

799
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: the tail into that and he really latched onto it.

800
00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:20,279
Speaker 1: And one of the things that was interesting about that

801
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: period too is that actually a lot of the advances

802
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,719
Speaker 1: and discoveries were just by tinkerers and people like that

803
00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 1: and just loan event was it wasn't this thing where

804
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:31,839
Speaker 1: we had this massive general electrics and laboratories coming up

805
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:33,680
Speaker 1: with stuff. It's just guys working in their in their

806
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:39,360
Speaker 1: barns with amazing stuff. Yeah. Yeah, and this is this

807
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,279
Speaker 1: is this is gonna be a little bit hard to

808
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:44,360
Speaker 1: explain something. Going to try and break this into just

809
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:50,160
Speaker 1: real simple basics for how this anti gravity magnetism stuff

810
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:52,400
Speaker 1: that people think ED had figured out on how to

811
00:46:52,480 --> 00:46:54,800
Speaker 1: move things, because I think I read was this in

812
00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:57,000
Speaker 1: one of the links. This is Yeah, this is I

813
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:59,800
Speaker 1: tried to read. It's very hard and just couldn't the

814
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,520
Speaker 1: one with all of the videos. It's very hard to

815
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,279
Speaker 1: understand nothing. Yeah, no, it's it's really difficult. So this

816
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 1: is this is the easy way to think about it.

817
00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,200
Speaker 1: You can change. According to ED, you could change the

818
00:47:13,600 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: internal magnetism of an object. We're gonna we're gonna step back.

819
00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: We're going to say that the planet, the core of

820
00:47:22,719 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 1: our planet has a positive charge and everything on the

821
00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: outside of the planet has a negative charge. So with magnets,

822
00:47:31,120 --> 00:47:35,440
Speaker 1: positive and negative opts to tract, so they pull together

823
00:47:35,560 --> 00:47:40,000
Speaker 1: and that's what creates our gravity, very simplified. So then

824
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 1: according to this theory, what you could do is if

825
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 1: you could flip the magnetic polarity of an object from

826
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:55,200
Speaker 1: negative to positive, it would repel from the center of

827
00:47:55,280 --> 00:47:58,279
Speaker 1: the Earth and it would lift. And the more that

828
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:01,000
Speaker 1: you were that you flip, so it gets more and

829
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 1: more on the positive, the higher and higher it would float,

830
00:48:04,120 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 1: and it would flip around. There's there's a bit of

831
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,680
Speaker 1: a problem with that theory though, um, and that is

832
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 1: that magnetism and gravity are entirely separate forces. Okay, but

833
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,440
Speaker 1: this this is end, this is this is en. I

834
00:48:16,560 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: understand the magnetism gravity or two different things. But I'm

835
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:22,799
Speaker 1: making this very simple just to try and explain how

836
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: his magnetism theory work. But that's the basics of it.

837
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:28,879
Speaker 1: Is everything has a polarity, and if you can flip

838
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,239
Speaker 1: its polarity, it's going to start repelling against everything, and

839
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:35,879
Speaker 1: that would allow it to essentially float and you could

840
00:48:35,960 --> 00:48:39,000
Speaker 1: push it around like a hover path. There's two problems

841
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: with that theory. And number one is that is that

842
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:45,759
Speaker 1: magnetism effects ferrest minerals not and and limestone is non

843
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:49,239
Speaker 1: ferrest number one. Number two you know, yeah, we all

844
00:48:49,320 --> 00:48:51,440
Speaker 1: have have played around with magnet you know, and so

845
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,759
Speaker 1: you know what happens, Like, say, if you've got a

846
00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:55,719
Speaker 1: magnet and you put the two north ends of the

847
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,960
Speaker 1: magnets together, they tend to repel each other, right, and

848
00:48:58,040 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: then they'll flip on you. Well because actually, yeah, yeah,

849
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 1: you let one of them go and it just snaps

850
00:49:02,520 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: around and then smacks into the other magnet real hard, right,

851
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,879
Speaker 1: So I think that's what would have happened to good old,

852
00:49:09,120 --> 00:49:18,359
Speaker 1: good old edge like that, I guess I can kind

853
00:49:18,400 --> 00:49:22,239
Speaker 1: of see the whole magnetism thing if we're thinking of magnetism,

854
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 1: like what holds atoms together? Almost magnetism is well, but

855
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 1: if that's not the correct term for it, right, But

856
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,399
Speaker 1: that there's there's a force and if you and it's

857
00:49:31,400 --> 00:49:36,399
Speaker 1: a got a opposite polar force, right, may maybe I'm

858
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,160
Speaker 1: making that up, but that if you were going to

859
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:43,359
Speaker 1: reverse the like integral polar of a thing, I think

860
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:45,840
Speaker 1: that not only would it not levitate. And this is

861
00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:49,279
Speaker 1: my total basic understanding of standing, but like if you

862
00:49:49,600 --> 00:49:51,480
Speaker 1: if you're going to reverse the polarity of that thing,

863
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,120
Speaker 1: isn't that thing going to cease to exist? Like you're

864
00:49:55,120 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 1: reversing the polarity of all of the atoms that are

865
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: that thing? So what's holding it together? And there's nothing

866
00:49:59,840 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: really holding it together anymore? Is that a thing? Am

867
00:50:02,719 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 1: I making that up? I would? I wouldn't stress about

868
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:06,400
Speaker 1: that because there's no way you can do that. But

869
00:50:07,160 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 1: but but but like like particle, right, that's exactly it? Right?

870
00:50:13,520 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 1: Is that like you get the gun, the anti hero

871
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: in all of the like comics gets the gun. It's

872
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,160
Speaker 1: like the anti gravity gun, and he can't use it

873
00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,560
Speaker 1: because really what it is is it disintegrates the person

874
00:50:24,600 --> 00:50:29,320
Speaker 1: because it reverses the polarity of every atom. And I

875
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: would really like to have one of those two but

876
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: in traffic a yeah, but but yeah, magnetic polarity. I mean,

877
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, in atoms, there's particles that have

878
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,640
Speaker 1: positive and negative and neutral charges, but that has that's

879
00:50:41,719 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: nothing to do with magnetic polarity, all right, And this

880
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:48,359
Speaker 1: is this is all based on his writings and I guess, well,

881
00:50:48,520 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 1: but I a little bit want to think about it

882
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,040
Speaker 1: in terms of like the nineteen thirties and forties right

883
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:58,360
Speaker 1: when he was writing it, because we've made some pretty

884
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:03,040
Speaker 1: significant advances in our understanding of things like that. Yeah,

885
00:51:03,719 --> 00:51:07,120
Speaker 1: but well, let's let's let's get off of the the

886
00:51:07,440 --> 00:51:11,960
Speaker 1: let's let's back to debate the theories of magnets. I

887
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,279
Speaker 1: do not want to get into any more of that.

888
00:51:14,360 --> 00:51:16,000
Speaker 1: But what I do want to point out this is

889
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:19,600
Speaker 1: this is something that people who believe that he was

890
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:23,680
Speaker 1: making this anti gravity beam is they say that Ed

891
00:51:23,960 --> 00:51:29,279
Speaker 1: was using a perpetual motion device and that's how he

892
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 1: was able to to change the polarity of things. And

893
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:35,320
Speaker 1: make them float. And they also said that he had

894
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: a machine that would run a charge into the property

895
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 1: to help him do this. And he does have a

896
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,680
Speaker 1: very crude electro magnetic crank in in the building of

897
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: the castle that he built. It could generate electricity. It

898
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,120
Speaker 1: had a copper coil, and all that which is the

899
00:51:56,239 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 1: coil is gone, all the all the guts that are

900
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:01,879
Speaker 1: basically gone anymore. But they there was evidently two lights

901
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:03,920
Speaker 1: on the property, and people say, well, if he was

902
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:06,440
Speaker 1: using that, it would only work as long as ed

903
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: was there to turn the crank, which defeats the purpose

904
00:52:09,560 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 1: of having lights. So maybe he had some way to

905
00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:16,240
Speaker 1: keep it going, which would maybe be his perpetual motion device,

906
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,360
Speaker 1: or maybe he he was in capturing the energy. I mean,

907
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of it there. He could have actually

908
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,400
Speaker 1: just kidnapped people and held them prisoner and made them

909
00:52:24,440 --> 00:52:26,839
Speaker 1: turn the crank. It wasn't there isn't there a way

910
00:52:26,880 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 1: to store that perpetual motion a battery kind of yeah,

911
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:32,440
Speaker 1: I mean he would build u an electrical charging like

912
00:52:32,560 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 1: a like a hand crank radio, you know how they

913
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,759
Speaker 1: used to do it. You wouldn't have to have like

914
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,160
Speaker 1: content they have Usually the devices like that have a

915
00:52:39,239 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: capacity which is kind of like a battery if you

916
00:52:41,480 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: hold to charge, you know, and it can discharge the

917
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,759
Speaker 1: charge much faster than a battery. So he would have

918
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 1: maybe had something. He probably had a capacitor or maybe

919
00:52:50,080 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 1: battery or something, and so maybe he was cranking it up,

920
00:52:52,920 --> 00:52:55,959
Speaker 1: charging up this device and then going using it. Yeah,

921
00:52:57,280 --> 00:52:59,160
Speaker 1: we don't know exactly what the thing did, because, like

922
00:52:59,239 --> 00:53:03,040
Speaker 1: I said, the you're gone, Yeah they were gone. But yeah, yeah,

923
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:05,160
Speaker 1: so but anyway, I moved them before I went to

924
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: the hospital. But yeah, anyway, I mean and apparently somebody,

925
00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,279
Speaker 1: somebody nipped in there and stole a perpetual emotion machine too. Yeah,

926
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: nobody's ever seen I you know, I think that somebody's

927
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,680
Speaker 1: having a little fun with us at this point. They're larning.

928
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: They're larning on the hoaxes one on the other so

929
00:53:23,000 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 1: so thickly that you know, they're obviously just they're pulling

930
00:53:26,200 --> 00:53:29,960
Speaker 1: a insulting our intelligence here. Perpetual emotional machine. Come on, dudes, Yeah,

931
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:35,600
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there actually no, I actually think there

932
00:53:35,680 --> 00:53:38,000
Speaker 1: was a stronger there's stronger evidence for the existence of

933
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:49,160
Speaker 1: than there is perpetual perpetual motion machines. Okay, let's let's

934
00:53:49,239 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: keep going, let's move ahead. Yeah, okay, Remember I said

935
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:55,720
Speaker 1: that Ed worked at night, Yeah, because that way nobody

936
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,800
Speaker 1: could see him. There's a story out there from a

937
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:03,319
Speaker 1: group of high school students at the time, and they

938
00:54:04,040 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: they said that one time they went out there and

939
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: they saw Ed singing to the stones and he was

940
00:54:10,080 --> 00:54:12,319
Speaker 1: pushing them around and they were floating like they were

941
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,160
Speaker 1: hydrogen filled balloons. Sorry, yeah, I'm sorry. You know, the

942
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: first half of that was really the part they got

943
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: me singing to the stones. Yeah, yeah, evidently had a

944
00:54:22,400 --> 00:54:25,320
Speaker 1: great singing voice. I don't know ro so he was

945
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 1: he was charming the stones. Yeah. Well, people have pointed out,

946
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: you know, it was probably a couple of kids who

947
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: got busted for being out after curfew and made up

948
00:54:34,520 --> 00:54:37,520
Speaker 1: this crazy story so the cops wouldn't get after him

949
00:54:37,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 1: for that. Maybe go look, try to divert attention from themselves.

950
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,360
Speaker 1: But then I also heard a really good idea of

951
00:54:44,560 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 1: why Ed worked at night because it's hot, because he

952
00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:50,960
Speaker 1: lived in southern Florida and it's super hot in the day.

953
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: And remember back back in those days, they didn't have

954
00:54:53,600 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 1: that magical stuff called sunscreen or air conditioning. Yeah, so yeah,

955
00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:00,799
Speaker 1: he lived in a stone house. He didn't have air

956
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: conditioning either way. But uh yeah, having lived in here

957
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:10,680
Speaker 1: in Florida in part of the summer hot, it's hot

958
00:55:10,800 --> 00:55:14,759
Speaker 1: as hell. And it's not only hot, it's muggy. I mean,

959
00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,640
Speaker 1: you know a lot of places you you can kind

960
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:20,600
Speaker 1: of understand what hot, but until it's you know, just

961
00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: sopping wet air. It should rain but it can't, and

962
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:28,800
Speaker 1: all of that water is to you don't really know

963
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:31,359
Speaker 1: what heat is. Yeah, I know, I've been. I've been,

964
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:33,759
Speaker 1: like I was in Kansas City in July one time,

965
00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,800
Speaker 1: kind of like that. Yeah, it was super muggy and

966
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,680
Speaker 1: just hotter degrees out and you felt like you're gonna

967
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,560
Speaker 1: melt the salk. You kind of wanted to. It was,

968
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,160
Speaker 1: and every every place that I see cold air conditioning.

969
00:55:46,200 --> 00:55:49,439
Speaker 1: So I would walk into a shop whatever, it's like, yeah,

970
00:55:49,480 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: it's so great. But then you walk back out and

971
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:53,040
Speaker 1: it's like he's slapped in the face with a wet,

972
00:55:53,120 --> 00:55:59,000
Speaker 1: hot tower. It's it's like a real life sauna. Yeah,

973
00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:03,799
Speaker 1: it's it's not pleasant, not pleasant at all. The last

974
00:56:03,800 --> 00:56:06,719
Speaker 1: thing that I've got here for is is what I

975
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:12,440
Speaker 1: refer to as the number set. Okay, when you look

976
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:16,839
Speaker 1: at the photos of the property, there's pictures of Ed's

977
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: standing next to uh an area where he has engraved

978
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: in the rocks, when he was born, when he moved

979
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,360
Speaker 1: the property, all this, you know, kind of biographical stuff.

980
00:56:27,719 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 1: But when you go into the second floor of the

981
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: castle to part where he lived in on the side

982
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:35,320
Speaker 1: of one of the stones, there is a set of

983
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,280
Speaker 1: numbers etched in and they are seven, one, two nine.

984
00:56:38,840 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: There's a line break six zero five one phone number.

985
00:56:45,400 --> 00:56:48,640
Speaker 1: It's not a phone number. People say that, oh, well

986
00:56:48,920 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: Ed must have figured out something. And this is if

987
00:56:51,239 --> 00:56:53,360
Speaker 1: we can just understand that this this is totally a

988
00:56:53,480 --> 00:56:57,360
Speaker 1: reference to the prime ridiant number. Once we get it,

989
00:56:57,440 --> 00:57:01,400
Speaker 1: we'll totally get it. Well, Dan, isn't it just the

990
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:07,000
Speaker 1: meridian line the longitude? Yeah, it's it's latitude and longitude essentially.

991
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,120
Speaker 1: So that would be wrong. Yeah, that's not It doesn't

992
00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:13,080
Speaker 1: even make that's nonsensical because it would have to be

993
00:57:13,239 --> 00:57:16,240
Speaker 1: between one and three d and sixty degrees. That would

994
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:18,120
Speaker 1: make it. Well, I mean it could be degrees. Man,

995
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 1: it's the second So yeah, I guess it could, you know,

996
00:57:21,120 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: But I think there's a simpler answer for what these are. Yeah, well,

997
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,800
Speaker 1: that's that's actually, you know, I mean I think that

998
00:57:27,880 --> 00:57:30,760
Speaker 1: he probably put serial numbers on all of this blocks

999
00:57:30,760 --> 00:57:37,320
Speaker 1: of stone, had a barcode, you could just can it. No, Actually,

1000
00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:40,680
Speaker 1: the stuff that I've come across does have the simpler answer,

1001
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:46,040
Speaker 1: which is that is his immigrant I D number immigrant

1002
00:57:46,080 --> 00:57:49,160
Speaker 1: and alien ID number. Yes, And I actually I did

1003
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,440
Speaker 1: dig around for a while trying to find out you

1004
00:57:52,480 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: can find out it's a I think it's an eight

1005
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: digit number. Now, is what I D numbers are for

1006
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: the the immigrant alien I D number. And we used

1007
00:58:02,080 --> 00:58:04,680
Speaker 1: to well, actually we did. You know, the thing is

1008
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: back and that that was at the time when he

1009
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: came to the States, which is around nineteen eighteen where

1010
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: we were having the Great European influx, so there was

1011
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:16,520
Speaker 1: tons of people pouring through Ellis Island and I was

1012
00:58:16,600 --> 00:58:19,080
Speaker 1: doing a bunch of looking trying to find out how

1013
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: many digits were in those I D numbers, and I

1014
00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,720
Speaker 1: couldn't find it. It's just it's one of those historical

1015
00:58:26,840 --> 00:58:29,200
Speaker 1: things where I think it's probably in a picture, not

1016
00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:31,640
Speaker 1: in text form, and so I kept pouring through all

1017
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:34,480
Speaker 1: these tags and not finding it. But people say, you

1018
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,040
Speaker 1: know what, that's his immigrant I D number because it

1019
00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:40,600
Speaker 1: was not an uncommon practice for people to say I'm

1020
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:43,560
Speaker 1: gonna etch this into my doorway, so people know that's

1021
00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 1: me and this is where I live, which really makes

1022
00:58:46,680 --> 00:58:48,640
Speaker 1: a lot of sense. Yeah, the thing that I saw

1023
00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:50,840
Speaker 1: was that it was the alien I D number and

1024
00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: the immigrant ID number. So the alien idea was the

1025
00:58:53,640 --> 00:58:56,760
Speaker 1: first one. So it was his I D number that

1026
00:58:56,840 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: he was given when he first like came before he

1027
00:58:59,600 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: was in any kind of citizens and then his immigrant

1028
00:59:03,640 --> 00:59:08,200
Speaker 1: status was the second, and that would make sense, that

1029
00:59:08,520 --> 00:59:12,000
Speaker 1: would make seven digit. Yeah, okay, that makes a lot

1030
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 1: of sense. And obviously I feel like I shouldn't have

1031
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: to say this, but I'm gonna from another country, not

1032
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,640
Speaker 1: another world. You don't mean you know people who like

1033
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:24,840
Speaker 1: you know how I love my Martian theories. I know.

1034
00:59:25,400 --> 00:59:32,200
Speaker 1: But this guy, he was little, maybe he was at

1035
00:59:33,160 --> 00:59:35,400
Speaker 1: he was a little dude. It was a little dude

1036
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,520
Speaker 1: with a really big head. Now he looked pretty human

1037
00:59:39,560 --> 00:59:42,959
Speaker 1: and all the pictures he just looks like a small human.

1038
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: It looks Latvian, and they actually I had no idea

1039
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,440
Speaker 1: what Latvian. He looks like a normal being. And of

1040
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,240
Speaker 1: course people back in those days, you know, there's a

1041
00:59:52,240 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: lot more abound nutrition floating around in those days, and

1042
00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:58,439
Speaker 1: so tended to be a bit smaller. What the what's

1043
00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 1: her name Winchester, the woman who built the Winchester home

1044
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:07,520
Speaker 1: in California. Yeah, she was like four nine, if you go.

1045
01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:10,800
Speaker 1: I went to her house one time, and the Winchester house.

1046
01:00:10,920 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: I did know. I was at their house. It's so

1047
01:00:13,240 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: frustrated because I was actually that's like San Jose, right,

1048
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 1: I was actually there one time. This was a while back,

1049
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 1: and uh and I just didn't have time. I even

1050
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:25,000
Speaker 1: saw science saying Winchester house this way. You know, it's

1051
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: really fun frustrated. She actually built staircases that really that

1052
01:00:29,400 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: was well, no, she built staircases. They're like normal people staircases,

1053
01:00:33,680 --> 01:00:36,840
Speaker 1: and then like her staircases because she was so little

1054
01:00:37,360 --> 01:00:39,320
Speaker 1: that she just wanted to have her own little like

1055
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,160
Speaker 1: I went up one and I was like hunched over,

1056
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: like trying to go up these tiny little stairs because

1057
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: she just, like I wanted all these little stairs. But

1058
01:00:46,840 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, she was kind of a contemporary

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Speaker 1: at that age. That's a that's a thing people were smaller.

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's where you were going at expanded.

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01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:01,040
Speaker 1: I'm sure you noticed this like you know, and travels

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Speaker 1: to Europe. You know, I've seen very very old buildings

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Speaker 1: and the doorways and I am normal. Yeah, I say,

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01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: I've seen yeah, a lot of really ancient buildings where

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Speaker 1: the churches and stuff. Yeah, yeah, you got a duck.

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Speaker 1: It's like five and a half feet is how high

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Speaker 1: to the door is. Building codes were a little different

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Speaker 1: back in those days. They didn't have them. They didn't

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Speaker 1: have them. For number one, there were two people were

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01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,680
Speaker 1: all five feet tall. This is very true. Well anyway, Yeah,

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01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 1: that's that's kind of the that's that's what we know

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01:01:29,560 --> 01:01:32,480
Speaker 1: about Corral Castle, and those are the main the main

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01:01:32,600 --> 01:01:36,880
Speaker 1: theories on how people think Ed made the place. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think, and I think it's fair to say. I

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01:01:39,000 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: think for our listeners again, uh, do a do a

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01:01:41,640 --> 01:01:44,640
Speaker 1: google on Wally Wallington, look at some of his techniques,

1077
01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:49,360
Speaker 1: and you know, I think that there's a very easy

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Speaker 1: explainable explanation for this. I don't think supernatural things, anti

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01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:58,840
Speaker 1: gravity or magnetic whatever really accounts for any of this. Yeah,

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01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:00,600
Speaker 1: that's what I think. What do you guys think? So

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01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 1: you don't even have to ask the question, because Joe's

1082
01:02:02,560 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: just answering on already. Yeah, I think so. You think

1083
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: the magnetic lay lines, right, Yeah, she likes those magnetic lines.

1084
01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:13,960
Speaker 1: I think ancient alien technology should not be counted out. No,

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01:02:14,400 --> 01:02:17,960
Speaker 1: I think I think that probably this whole This is

1086
01:02:18,040 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 1: so frustrating to say, but I kind of agree with Joe.

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01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,640
Speaker 1: You know, we all watched that video together and it

1088
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:28,440
Speaker 1: was just kind of like a crap, Like, Nan, you're

1089
01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:32,840
Speaker 1: taking away all my fun theories with reason and actual science. No,

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01:02:33,240 --> 01:02:35,840
Speaker 1: what are you doing? Actually, this just occurs to me.

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01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:37,240
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of you guys have played

1092
01:02:37,320 --> 01:02:41,640
Speaker 1: Half Life too. No, yeah, but Half Life Too. There's

1093
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: just one special thing that you get, and it's not

1094
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:46,160
Speaker 1: exactly a weapon. I forget what they call it, but

1095
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: you can use it to pick up just anything. You

1096
01:02:48,120 --> 01:02:50,400
Speaker 1: can pick up a car with it. Maybe it's that

1097
01:02:50,800 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: maybe this guy you know, actually like you know, got

1098
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: this this special tool that we should in Half Life Too.

1099
01:02:58,520 --> 01:03:00,040
Speaker 1: Why don't we just say that he was praying it

1100
01:03:00,160 --> 01:03:10,160
Speaker 1: and was having crazy mom strength trying to protect his children. Okay,

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01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:16,440
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with that. I personally, I think that

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01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: it is probably a combination. I think that it is

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01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:24,440
Speaker 1: a combination of the standard block and tackle and then

1104
01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:33,720
Speaker 1: some very rudimentary version of the Primerradian. The stuff that

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01:03:33,760 --> 01:03:37,280
Speaker 1: Wellington was doing, I don't know that he maybe took

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01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:39,760
Speaker 1: it as far, but I think that he was doing

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01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:43,160
Speaker 1: something basic. You got to remember, this is not a

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01:03:43,320 --> 01:03:47,560
Speaker 1: huge place. I'm guessing that there. I mean, the walls

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01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: I know must have taken him a long time because

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,600
Speaker 1: there's a lot of walls. But the things that he built,

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01:03:53,920 --> 01:03:56,080
Speaker 1: I think, you know, he worked on it for thirty

1112
01:03:56,200 --> 01:04:00,880
Speaker 1: years and there's a couple dozen structures or objects that

1113
01:04:01,000 --> 01:04:03,760
Speaker 1: he's arranged and put together aside from the walls. So

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01:04:04,520 --> 01:04:07,160
Speaker 1: this this stuff that Wellington did, he could move it

1115
01:04:07,160 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: around really fast, but I don't think that he necessarily

1116
01:04:10,520 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: was moving in that fast. And I think that he's

1117
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:18,040
Speaker 1: probably working in bits and pieces that much larger than

1118
01:04:18,680 --> 01:04:21,800
Speaker 1: he's a Yeah he is. He is a bigger guy

1119
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 1: than Ed. Be honest, I would have taken me much

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01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:27,280
Speaker 1: longer to do something like that. And that's why I

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01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:30,920
Speaker 1: think that he's probably doing things in some combination using

1122
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:34,240
Speaker 1: leverage but then using a winch or something like that.

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01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,520
Speaker 1: I really that's that's the direction that I think that

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01:04:37,640 --> 01:04:39,600
Speaker 1: he must have done. I don't think that he used

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01:04:39,600 --> 01:04:42,440
Speaker 1: the magnetic a line. They don't have a good explanation

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01:04:42,560 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: for that box on the top of that whatever the

1127
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 1: tripod is. But you want to know what I think that.

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Speaker 1: I think that he nailed the poles to the box

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01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,800
Speaker 1: and that's what kept him from flying apart. It's a

1130
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:59,840
Speaker 1: t P and he just drops the box. Okay, he

1131
01:05:00,520 --> 01:05:02,840
Speaker 1: three sticks and you lean them up against each other

1132
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:04,920
Speaker 1: and they make that kind of little inverted t P

1133
01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:08,120
Speaker 1: at the top, and then you drop the box over him,

1134
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:12,320
Speaker 1: and the box keeps him from sheering sideways. Drop a

1135
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:14,680
Speaker 1: couple of nails, and then the things don't pull apart.

1136
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 1: I think as simple as that, it could be as

1137
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 1: simple as the box was like something that was manufactured

1138
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:24,840
Speaker 1: that actually held that held held the poles there. They

1139
01:05:24,840 --> 01:05:28,200
Speaker 1: were actually essentially hinged all together. So imagine if if

1140
01:05:28,240 --> 01:05:29,760
Speaker 1: he's got this thing and he wants to move it

1141
01:05:29,840 --> 01:05:32,360
Speaker 1: over five ft right, so he could pick up one

1142
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:35,200
Speaker 1: of these things, move it over, and then pick up

1143
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:36,640
Speaker 1: the other ones and move them over, and you can

1144
01:05:36,680 --> 01:05:38,240
Speaker 1: do it kind of like that, as long as he's

1145
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,320
Speaker 1: got this thing where they're all held together in hand

1146
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: and so they have a certain bit of leverage, but

1147
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,640
Speaker 1: not too much. Yeah, yeah, so they can't go too

1148
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:47,000
Speaker 1: far one way or the other. But yeah, I mean

1149
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:48,360
Speaker 1: that might I think that they were just there to

1150
01:05:48,440 --> 01:05:50,320
Speaker 1: hold the top together. Yeah, it could have been it too.

1151
01:05:50,920 --> 01:05:55,080
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I mean yeah, that makes sense. I mean yeah,

1152
01:05:55,240 --> 01:06:00,479
Speaker 1: I'm just being contradictory at this point. Yeah, just because

1153
01:06:00,520 --> 01:06:06,480
Speaker 1: we made you so mad because it's late line. No okay, Well,

1154
01:06:06,840 --> 01:06:13,240
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen like you threatening to tickle me? Remember that?

1155
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:19,400
Speaker 1: Remember the song on the Clapton song lay Do you

1156
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:23,200
Speaker 1: don't remember that song? No? Okay, No, I don't know

1157
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:29,919
Speaker 1: my guitar. No, alright, ladies and gentlemen, Well, obviously enough,

1158
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:31,960
Speaker 1: we're going to have the some of the links for

1159
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Speaker 1: today's story. We'll have those on the website, and you're can,

1160
01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 1: of course listen to this episode if you haven't already,

1161
01:06:38,000 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: you can be listening to it through the website, and

1162
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Speaker 1: the website is thinking Sideways podcast dot com. If you

1163
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Speaker 1: I know that came out, well yeah, you can of

1164
01:06:48,360 --> 01:06:51,360
Speaker 1: course go ahead and listen to the shows as always

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01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:54,480
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01:06:54,520 --> 01:06:56,320
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01:06:56,360 --> 01:07:00,600
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1170
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1174
01:07:18,760 --> 01:07:21,160
Speaker 1: we've got the group. We're always putting stuff out, so

1175
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:27,520
Speaker 1: that's always fun and intriguing. And of course, well if

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Speaker 1: you really want to get a hold of us us

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1178
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Speaker 1: if you understand a lines better than we do, send

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01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: us an email. That email address is thinking Sideways Podcast

1180
01:07:39,400 --> 01:07:44,520
Speaker 1: at gmail dot com. And with no one more way

1181
01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:46,400
Speaker 1: to get ahold of this is we actually have a

1182
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:52,600
Speaker 1: secret headquarters, uh secret headquarters in Congress. Just go to

1183
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:56,880
Speaker 1: the Senate Office building and uh and tie your note

1184
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:59,080
Speaker 1: to a brick and throw it through the window and

1185
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 1: we'll get to us. Don't do that, I really don't

1186
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:06,320
Speaker 1: do that. Do that. Do not do that? Okay kidding?

1187
01:08:06,680 --> 01:08:09,920
Speaker 1: All right, Well that's that's really all we've got on

1188
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:14,120
Speaker 1: on that one today. So I guess we'll we'll just

1189
01:08:14,200 --> 01:08:16,920
Speaker 1: do some anti gravity and we're gonna I'm gonna I'm

1190
01:08:16,920 --> 01:08:20,080
Speaker 1: gonna fire up my antigravity car and just like a

1191
01:08:20,200 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 1: Jets car. Yeah, gasoline powered anti gravity car. Anyway, So long, folks,

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01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: by I guess or whatever.