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Speaker 1: up here in about twenty minutes from now. Charles Barkley

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Speaker 1: was hoping to not join us today. He said, if

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Speaker 1: the Miami Heat win, bro I'm on vacation. Well, the

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Speaker 1: Celtics won last night, so Charles said, I'll join you.

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Speaker 1: If the Celtics win, He'll join us. A little over

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Speaker 1: an hour from now, no NBA, no NHL tonight. But

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Speaker 1: if you want to get a head start to Game

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Speaker 1: six in Miami, the Celtics, according to DraftKings three point

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Speaker 1: favorites as they try to bring the series back to Boston.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Marv, what's the over under for Hall of Famer

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Speaker 3: Al Horford?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: I don't know that yet.

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Speaker 3: Five and a half.

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Speaker 1: That's a game time decision. And I think you better

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Speaker 1: watch your mouth if you're talking about Al Horford. Go care, Okay,

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Speaker 1: Al Horford, future Hall of Famer, Al Whore, He's here,

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Speaker 1: Al Whore. I would say the over under is going

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Speaker 1: to be seven for Al Horford. He was under last night.

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Speaker 1: He had just six, but he contributed in a lot

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Speaker 1: of different ways. I think he had double digit rebounds

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Speaker 5: Guess, Paul, if you don't have a dog in the fight,

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Speaker 5: should you root for the team that has a better

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Speaker 5: chance to make the NBA Finals?

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Speaker 6: A good NBA Finals?

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Speaker 1: Sure, who's that Boston. Boston's a better team. Miami might

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Speaker 1: be a better story, But according to Tim Legler, doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter who faces Denver. Denver's winning.

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Speaker 6: The Tyler Herro factor is not enough.

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Speaker 1: Well, if you're coming back from a broken thumb on

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Speaker 1: your shooting hand, and you're going to come back to

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Speaker 1: play in the finals. I don't know how much I

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Speaker 1: would count on that, but you know, you've lost some

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Speaker 1: players here due to injuries. You know, three of your

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Speaker 1: top nine players that have been injured, and last night

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Speaker 1: they got blown out playing simple. Boston played like Boston

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Speaker 1: should play. Miami didn't play like Miami should play. But

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Speaker 1: Miami did play that way during the regular season. But

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Speaker 1: Miami's still up three to two in the series. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's go around the room. Who agrees with me we're

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Speaker 1: going to a seventh game in this series? Todd yes, okay,

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Speaker 1: Seaton no, Marv yes, Paulie yes, yeah. I just it

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Speaker 1: just feels that way, and maybe ESPN is going to

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Speaker 1: be right when they said Miami had a three percent

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Speaker 1: chance to go to the NBA Finals if Boston happens

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Speaker 1: to come back and win this. You do sometimes have

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Speaker 1: these random calls. I just feel like we're going to seven,

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Speaker 1: I know what, I know. I had a few of those. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: And I don't know why, but then I thought Portland

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Speaker 1: was going to win the lottery and get Victor Wan Bayana. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I had a dream but then he also dreamed that

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Speaker 1: I was the quarterback of the Steelers. I got hurt

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Speaker 1: and I didn't know the plays.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that goes back to the old grade school

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Speaker 5: dreams where you don't have the test, you're late for

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Speaker 1: You know what. I never I don't have any of

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Speaker 1: those callback dreams because I was never prepared for the

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Speaker 1: test anyway when we knew there was going to be

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Speaker 1: a test. But I always think that I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be late for Sports Center, that i won't get to

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Speaker 1: the Sports Center desk. That will wake me up at night,

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Speaker 1: for the highlights, and then you hear the music. But

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Speaker 1: for some reason, I get lost on campus at the

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Speaker 1: University of Dayton and I can't find the classroom. Which

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Speaker 1: I didn't get lost on campus. I just didn't care

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Speaker 1: callback nightmares where I'm like, I'm not going to get

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Speaker 1: I don't know what that says. I don't know what

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Speaker 6: Fear of not being prepared.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I've had a few dreams, randomly, maybe two or three,

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Speaker 5: where we're doing a remote for the show and there's

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Speaker 5: no microphones. We get to the table and get to

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Speaker 5: the set and there's no microphone, which is the one

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Speaker 5: thing you need. Everything else can go away. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 5: I've had a few of those.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I've definitely had a million Dead Air dreams where

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Speaker 7: we're off the air and I can't figure out how

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Speaker 7: to get us back on the air. But I'll be

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Speaker 7: like in my aunt's kitchen looking at the toaster, and

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Speaker 7: I'm like, why can't we We're not We're off the air,

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Speaker 7: and I'm trying to figure out why we can't get

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Speaker 7: back on the air. But I'm in a place that

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Speaker 7: has nothing to do with radio or getting us back

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Speaker 7: on here.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, very strange. What about you?

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Speaker 3: Same as seating Dead Air? I had one maybe two

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Speaker 3: weeks ago. I was late and it was Dead Air

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Speaker 3: and I hear you in my where the bleep is? Marvin? Marvin? Marvin,

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Speaker 3: I give you this opportunity and it got real serious,

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Speaker 3: and my wife's like, Marvin, what happened to you?

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Speaker 2: Are right?

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Speaker 3: I was like no, I just had I was like

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Speaker 3: it was literally like a sireh relief, like huh, all right,

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Speaker 3: I can go back to sleep now. But she was like, Marvin,

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Speaker 3: I was just so worried.

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Speaker 1: You were just I still love that. That's that is

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Speaker 1: your wife's voice. At least that's what you want us

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Speaker 1: to believe. Your wife doesn't sound like that.

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Speaker 3: Not even close.

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Speaker 2: But it's better.

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Speaker 3: Marvin can't even believe you just.

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Speaker 2: So worked up.

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Speaker 1: It's Marvin's playlist today. You've been, you know, on the

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Speaker 1: cookout because we have a cookout all the time here

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Speaker 1: on the show. And we got yeah, we got a

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Speaker 1: playlist here and you voted for the seventies at dan

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Speaker 1: Patrick dot com. So thank you courtesy of my plan

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Speaker 1: from Verizon. Yes, tod we had a Peter Frampton comes Alive?

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Speaker 3: Was that around the seventies?

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Speaker 6: Did you get that?

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Speaker 1: Didn't you have a nightmare?

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Speaker 8: I did have a night okay, I wanted to shore,

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Speaker 8: but getting getting to work on time, Like the movie

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Speaker 8: Polter Guys, where she's running to try to save her kids.

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Speaker 3: In the hallway keeps getting longer and longer.

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Speaker 8: No matter where I go, no matter what road I take,

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Speaker 8: I'm getting further and further away from the studio, and

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Speaker 8: I just can't get to work on time.

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Speaker 3: That was my frightening thing.

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Speaker 1: Well, that would be our dream if you.

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Speaker 6: Wow, it's like the third shot at just over an hour.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know teacher's pest. I know you are

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Speaker 1: Marvin is teacher's pet, your teacher's past.

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Speaker 2: All right, I'll wear that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Uh, our two pole questions see.

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Speaker 7: Our two pole question today. We actually this is going

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Speaker 7: to be fun for you. We have Todd submitted a

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Speaker 7: bunch of options. Okay, all right, yeah, poll quit their

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Speaker 7: statements crafted as pole questions.

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Speaker 1: Now, Fritzie has had about an hour and a half

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Speaker 1: of sleep.

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Speaker 8: Except from two twenty to about three forty.

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Speaker 1: Okay, you are fired up, you are full of steroids.

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Speaker 1: Let's go, all right, what do you have ton.

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Speaker 6: After last night's Game five results?

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Speaker 8: I think the Heat winning six, the Heat win in seven,

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Speaker 8: the Celtics winning seven. Hey, you guys should mention the

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Speaker 8: Stars avoiding getting swept by the Golden Knights.

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Speaker 6: Talk some darn hockey.

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Speaker 8: That's the fourth choice. If my local team was in

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Speaker 8: the process of moving allah of the A's to Vegas,

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Speaker 8: I'd still support them until their last game, never attend

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Speaker 8: or tune into another one.

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Speaker 6: Okay, pop, yeah, if I like this one.

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Speaker 5: If I were an A's fan, the few the proud

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Speaker 5: that are still going to games, I as soon as

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Speaker 5: they announced that they're officially got the thing. I think

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Speaker 5: I would start some type of I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's a protest, because you're spitting the wind at this point,

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Speaker 5: but a complete no show with the stadiums empty for

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Speaker 5: the rest of the season empty.

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Speaker 1: And I think they've already had that protest.

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Speaker 6: They're halfway there. They not even said that.

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Speaker 1: They've been doing that for a few years, I think,

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Speaker 1: But what you just didn't know it was a protest.

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Speaker 6: It'd be great to get a night where they're on TV.

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Speaker 5: Somehow they're on TV and a place is empty, empty,

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Speaker 1: Around even more empty than it's more empty, or yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: It'd be hard to go there and support them. But

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Speaker 1: then part of the reason why they're leaving is they

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Speaker 6: First, I think that's beyeah.

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Speaker 5: I think they wanted to move and the ownership said,

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Speaker 6: It's the major League. It's movie major League.

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Speaker 1: They need to have a new stadium. That's what they wanted.

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Speaker 1: They wanted a new stadium. They didn't get it. Now

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Speaker 1: the Raiders are out of there. You got the Golden

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Speaker 1: State Warriors that are out of there. They're now in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco. The Raiders moved to Vegas. Now the A's

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Speaker 1: they've been in the playoffs, right, But you know when

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Speaker 1: and I'm sure it didn't get any better. There's just

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Speaker 1: nothing special when you see all these new stadiums and

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Speaker 1: or you know everything. Oakland Coliseum has been outdated for

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Speaker 5: There's nothing cool about sitting there in the ballpark in

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Speaker 1: Can if you drink enough, and then you're like, I

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Speaker 1: don't care where I am.

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Speaker 6: But if you're winning, do you need amenities?

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Speaker 1: Well, I think it's keeping up with the times. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's all. But you want to be proud of your

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Speaker 1: ballpark when you go to it. It's like, man, you

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Speaker 1: go to Pittsburgh the Pirates, that's a great ballpark. You know,

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Speaker 1: they might not be a good team consistently, but you

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Speaker 1: do have a beautiful venue to go see your team.

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Speaker 7: That's a city that knows how to do venues actual

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Speaker 7: because the ballpark there is awesome. They have a soccer

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, thank you, Todd, Yeah, Paul.

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Speaker 5: The Tennessee Titans name is to reflect the heroic and

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Speaker 6: Yes, the Titanic people of Nashville.

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Speaker 2: battles and Dion was going to win his, and that

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Speaker 2: ALTI is the way it happened. But I've said it

440
00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:06,120
Speaker 2: many times and others have as well. Dion, without question

441
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: is the best defensive back that I ever played against.

442
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Speaker 1: Michael had twelve catches in that game, almost two hundred yards. Yeah,

443
00:21:14,160 --> 00:21:16,800
Speaker 1: but you does. Sometimes he gets into a one on

444
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Speaker 1: one battle, so Mike wants to win his battle. Obviously

445
00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: wants to win the game. But sometimes it becomes too

446
00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:25,119
Speaker 1: personal and then you have to be you know, judge

447
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,680
Speaker 1: and jury and say, Mike, we have to win a football.

448
00:21:28,760 --> 00:21:31,880
Speaker 1: I mean, did that happen with Michael with that big personality?

449
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:35,400
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he uh, you know, there would there would

450
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 2: be you know, him draw coverage, of course, and he

451
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,040
Speaker 2: would get two. Sometimes heck, there'd be three guys on

452
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Speaker 2: him and we'd come over the sidelines and and you know,

453
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,760
Speaker 2: the guys called me Roy and he'd say, Roy, you

454
00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,600
Speaker 2: know you got to just just throw it up there.

455
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Speaker 2: You got to give me a chance. And I said, Michael,

456
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Speaker 2: I'm not throwing it into triple coverage. It's not going

457
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Speaker 2: to happen. And you know, but you know him, like

458
00:21:57,800 --> 00:22:00,399
Speaker 2: all of them, it's no different today. The great ones,

459
00:22:00,800 --> 00:22:02,520
Speaker 2: you know, they always feel like they have a chance,

460
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:04,040
Speaker 2: and that's what that's what makes them great.

461
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Speaker 1: How would you describe Jerry Rice to somebody who never

462
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Speaker 1: saw him?

463
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Speaker 2: Oh? Man, he was like, you know, I equated a

464
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:16,120
Speaker 2: little bit to like Joe Montana and Dan Marino. You know,

465
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Speaker 2: I always thought, until Brady went on to do what

466
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Speaker 2: he's done, I always thought Joe Montana was the greatest

467
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Speaker 2: quarterback of all time. And but Dan Marino was the

468
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Speaker 2: guy who I enjoyed watching play the most. And and

469
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Speaker 2: Joe kind of he just had this fluid ease of

470
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Speaker 2: everything just seemed easy for him, you know, his drop back,

471
00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 2: the way he threw the ball, whereas Dan everything looked

472
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 2: like a struggle, you know, the drop back to throw.

473
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Speaker 2: And I would and I would probably say the same

474
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Speaker 2: thing with Jerry. Uh, it just was so fluid, so easy,

475
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Speaker 2: at least the way he made it look. It was

476
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Speaker 2: poetry watching him run routes and had a chance to

477
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Speaker 2: watch him up close, of course when we played against him,

478
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Speaker 2: and then it's some Pro Bowls, but yeah, great, obviously.

479
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Speaker 1: Can you can you know if you look at the

480
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Speaker 1: generations and the way it was officiated, the number of

481
00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 1: times you pass, you know it's changed now. Can you

482
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Speaker 1: truly make a comparison that, you know, Tom Brady and

483
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Speaker 1: Joe Montana or Dan Marino or John Elway, Like, can

484
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Speaker 1: you put them all in the hopper and say, yeah,

485
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Speaker 1: you know, we can, or do you have to do

486
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Speaker 1: it generally, you know, in a generation by generation?

487
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it becomes hard. You know. It's the

488
00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 2: great thing about sports is those debates and being able

489
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Speaker 2: to have those conversations. I just think that if if

490
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Speaker 2: your argument is based on numbers, then then it's unfair

491
00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,159
Speaker 2: because the numbers obviously are dramatically different now because of

492
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Speaker 2: the way that the game is played. But with that said,

493
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Speaker 2: I don't think the numbers that we're seeing from today's

494
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,760
Speaker 2: quarterbacks should take away from anything that the quarterbacks are doing,

495
00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,520
Speaker 2: because we've got some amazing players right now. So yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: I think in the context of how you're evaluating these guys,

497
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,359
Speaker 2: it's hard to go outside of each generation, but yet

498
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:10,480
Speaker 2: we all do it. I just think when you start

499
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Speaker 2: making the list of the top quarterbacks of all times,

500
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Speaker 2: it seems like we forget guys who played a really

501
00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:18,080
Speaker 2: long time ago. I always say, Auto Graham should probably

502
00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 2: be on that list, you know, somewhere, And yet those

503
00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,280
Speaker 2: type quarterbacks tend to get forgotten.

504
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Speaker 1: He's Troy Aikman Holmes Famer and he's joined us a

505
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Speaker 1: few times to talk about his beer, eight and first

506
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Speaker 1: class product. No hidden agendas there, Big beer weekend. I'm

507
00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: assuming if you go to a barbecue, you're bringing the beer.

508
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:45,280
Speaker 2: Yes, And I hope that for all those people in

509
00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: Texas because that's where we are. Eight Beer, as you know,

510
00:24:49,240 --> 00:24:51,520
Speaker 2: is only in Texas. I'm hoping that everyone is having

511
00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:55,240
Speaker 2: a barbecue this weekend will indulge a little bit with

512
00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: some eight beer. But yeah, actually, I've got the Patriot

513
00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,800
Speaker 2: hat on to We've got a Patriot package for eight

514
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 2: over the next month goes towards the Military Warrior Support

515
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:11,760
Speaker 2: Foundation to honor those people who have served. So it's

516
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:15,000
Speaker 2: a good weekend for family and friends to all get together,

517
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 2: but it's also a great weekend to honor those who

518
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 2: paid the ultimate sacrifice.

519
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Speaker 1: How much did you celebrate when you were with the Killboys?

520
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,480
Speaker 2: How much did I celebrate?

521
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:25,720
Speaker 4: Yeah?

522
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Speaker 1: I would say party, but then given some of your teammates,

523
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: that might take on a different connotation. So did you

524
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,080
Speaker 1: enjoy being the Cowboys quarterback?

525
00:25:38,560 --> 00:25:38,919
Speaker 2: Yeah?

526
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Speaker 1: How did you enjoy being the Cowboys? Quarterback.

527
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Speaker 2: Oh, well, you know, Memorial weekend, since we're since it's

528
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:50,120
Speaker 2: upon us, I used to throw a you know, you'd say,

529
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:55,919
Speaker 2: a backyard barbecue picnic. It started as that, then it

530
00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 2: turned into where I was renting out Bill Bates's ranch

531
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,040
Speaker 2: and it was an all day affair. So uh I

532
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 2: I probably enjoyed it a little too much from time

533
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:06,440
Speaker 2: to time.

534
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: And no cell phones back then, thank god. Yeah, help

535
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:15,000
Speaker 1: me understand the kickoff. Where we're going with this? As

536
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,040
Speaker 1: an analyst, what do you want to realize a former player? Like,

537
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: what what should we still have with the kickoff?

538
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 2: Yeah? You know, Dan, I look at it from from

539
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,280
Speaker 2: both perspectives because I understand I've seen where some players

540
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 2: and coaches aren't happy with the change and the kickoff rule.

541
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Speaker 2: Uh And if you're a special teams player, that's that's

542
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,080
Speaker 2: how you make your living, and that's how you make

543
00:26:40,119 --> 00:26:43,639
Speaker 2: your uh your that's how you earn your opportunity to

544
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 2: be on a team. Uh So when some of those

545
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 2: types of rules are put into effect, it affects, you know,

546
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: your livelihood. But you know, I I will say I

547
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 2: also see it from someone now who's been removed from

548
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 2: the game for close to twenty five years that safety

549
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,200
Speaker 2: is the top priority and for obvious reasons, and the kickoff.

550
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,680
Speaker 2: I'm not in those meetings, but it seems like each

551
00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,359
Speaker 2: year I'm hearing that the kickoff is when most of

552
00:27:10,400 --> 00:27:14,240
Speaker 2: the injuries are taking place. So I applaud the league

553
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: and the owners and everyone who's involved in trying to

554
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,920
Speaker 2: make the game safer. But yet I understand why there's

555
00:27:18,920 --> 00:27:22,120
Speaker 2: some frustration from the coaches and the players that are

556
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: involved with it.

557
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 1: How would you take the response Mike McCarthy had that

558
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:28,399
Speaker 1: we need to run the ball more. If you were

559
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 1: still the quarterback of the Cowboys or you're Dak Prescott

560
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: and you hear your head coach saying we need to

561
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Speaker 1: run the ball more.

562
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Speaker 2: Well, I can't imagine that that would have ever been

563
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:44,640
Speaker 2: said while I was playing, because we ran it more.

564
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 2: You know, we were already there with Emmitt Smith. But

565
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Speaker 2: I don't know. I look at the teams around the

566
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 2: league and there's not a lot of them. But the

567
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:57,080
Speaker 2: team that comes to mind, of course, is San Francisco.

568
00:27:57,160 --> 00:28:00,640
Speaker 2: We see it with Tennessee, but they haven't enjoyed quite

569
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 2: the same level of success that we've seen from San Francisco.

570
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,679
Speaker 2: But I love that offense that Kyle Shanahan is running,

571
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 2: and it reminds me a lot of the Cowboys teams

572
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 2: that I was a part of, as far as the

573
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: commitment to running the ball and then the play action

574
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:19,399
Speaker 2: passing off of that, and we did skew heavily towards

575
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Speaker 2: the passing game. And when you have quarterbacks like Aaron

576
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 2: Rodgers or Patrick Mahomes and you know, Josh Allen and

577
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: those type talented guys, I get it. And then along

578
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 2: with the rules, but I do believe that we're starting

579
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,399
Speaker 2: to kind of bring the pendulum back towards the middle,

580
00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 2: and those teams that are running the ball are having

581
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:42,280
Speaker 2: a lot of success. So in Dallas there there has

582
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,280
Speaker 2: been They have thrown the ball a lot. Kellen Moore,

583
00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:47,840
Speaker 2: who's now with the Chargers, he I think did a

584
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 2: really great job. But I think it was a little

585
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 2: bit outside the box of where McCarthy wanted to be.

586
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: So I'm I'm not surprised by it. I don't think

587
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: it's a bad thing. But with all that said to me,

588
00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,400
Speaker 2: if you had to choose between one or the other

589
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,240
Speaker 2: that you're gonna be good at, you better be good

590
00:29:03,280 --> 00:29:06,320
Speaker 2: throwing the football. If you're gonna win in today's league.

591
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: How safe is EMMITTT Smith's all time rushing rock.

592
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's pretty safe. I can't imagine. I

593
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,560
Speaker 2: can't imagine in my lifetime that I'll that I'll see

594
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 2: anyone really threaten that record the game. The game's gonna

595
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 2: have to change dramatically. But you know, now with with

596
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:30,440
Speaker 2: seventeen games, if you're able to stay healthy, you know,

597
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 2: who knows if there becomes more of an emphasis on

598
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,880
Speaker 2: throwing the ball. But that's the thing that that I

599
00:29:35,920 --> 00:29:38,800
Speaker 2: always admired about Emmett. When you start talking about numbers,

600
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 2: the yards obviously are impressive. But what's most impressive to me,

601
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Speaker 2: and what has always been most impressive to me, is

602
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,520
Speaker 2: a guy who had a front row seat. Is in

603
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: order to put up those kinds of numbers, two things

604
00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,719
Speaker 2: have to happen. You have to you have to have

605
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: great years. You have to play and have great years,

606
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 2: but you have to but you have to play. You

607
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: have to be on the field. So to me, it's

608
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 2: greatness besides that he played well, was that he didn't

609
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 2: miss games. I mean, he was on the field. I

610
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 2: bet I can count on one hand the number of

611
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:10,720
Speaker 2: time number of games that Emmitt Smith missed in his

612
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:13,440
Speaker 2: career while he was with the Cowboys. And you know,

613
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,280
Speaker 2: to me that in a lot of ways, when you

614
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: start looking at big numbers that guys have put up

615
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 2: over their career, that's usually what stands out the most

616
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 2: is they just simply didn't miss much time.

617
00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 1: I got Emmett missing five games in thirteen years.

618
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,960
Speaker 2: Yeah there, yeah, there you go. And you know, and

619
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: it's a different league then too. Running backs don't get

620
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: hit now, but that's a lot of punishment, uh, and

621
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Speaker 2: for him to be able to in fact, a lot

622
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Speaker 2: of times, Dan, we didn't even have a backup running

623
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:43,200
Speaker 2: back to speak of. And in addition to that, Emmitt

624
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:45,480
Speaker 2: was a three down back, you know, so he played

625
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,480
Speaker 2: on third down as well as well. And people don't

626
00:30:48,520 --> 00:30:51,880
Speaker 2: realize just how good of a blocker he was. So

627
00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 2: just a great, great player and a great teammate in

628
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 2: every way.

629
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Speaker 1: You know, when you go to a game now and

630
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: you hear a game, do you hear it differently than

631
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: you heard when you were playing the game when you're

632
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: actually getting hit or you're really close by these hits

633
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: now you're watching people be hit. I tell people all

634
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:14,480
Speaker 1: the time, if you get a chance to watch a

635
00:31:14,520 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: game from the sidelines, you'd never play football.

636
00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, you wouldn't. You wouldn't. I remember my first NFL

637
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 2: game when I was standing on the sidelines.

638
00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,720
Speaker 1: Don't put me in people go to.

639
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 2: Jail for this stuff. But yeah, I was watching an

640
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,640
Speaker 2: NFL network just the other day and they were showing

641
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: some games from back in the early two thousands or

642
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 2: whatever it was, and it was you got I mean,

643
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: I know it was different because my body tells me

644
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: the game was played differently, but yet until you go

645
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 2: back and really watch some of these games, pretty amazing

646
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 2: what was allowed at one time.

647
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Speaker 1: Give me one tip for a rookie quarterback. These rookie quarterbacks, Well, I.

648
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 2: Was given some advice when I was coming into the league,

649
00:32:05,400 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 2: and I was told, hey, you know, it's a long

650
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 2: year and the leagues and the game's gotten longer each

651
00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 2: you know, with seventeen games. But things, you know, don't

652
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: get too high when things are going well, and don't

653
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 2: get too low when things are going poorly because it

654
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 2: is such a long it's a roller coaster. And in college,

655
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Speaker 2: when you're on a good team, as I was, you know,

656
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 2: everything's a good Every week's a good week and you

657
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Speaker 2: have very few losses when you come from some of

658
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Speaker 2: these great programs and you're going to go through a

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Speaker 2: lot of ebbs and flows of a season. And I

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Speaker 2: thought that was I thought that was really good advice.

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Speaker 2: And I think the coaches that are able to navigate

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Speaker 2: that and maintain some consistency, I think they give their

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Speaker 2: teams the best chance to.

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Speaker 1: And I whenever you talk to younger players, I always say,

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Speaker 1: you know what, they're on the other side, and their

666
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Speaker 1: job is to hurt you. Their their job is to

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Speaker 1: take you out. You don't have to be a macho

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Speaker 1: man like taking on contact. There's nothing wrong. Maybe it

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Speaker 1: used to be, I don't know back in your day

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Speaker 1: if you had to be a tough guy. But Lamar

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Speaker 1: Jackson and some of these other players, it's okay to

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Speaker 1: get out of bounds. Did you feel like you had

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Speaker 1: to be a tough guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, I did, But I think that I think that

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Speaker 2: that came from being raised by my father, who, pound

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Speaker 2: for pound, was the toughest guy I knew so long

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Speaker 2: before I ever got to the NFL. I felt that

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Speaker 2: I had to be a tough guy. But then for

679
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Speaker 2: a quarterback, that's really how you earn the respect I

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Speaker 2: think of your teammates is playing through pain. And not

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Speaker 2: to suggest that what you said, because coaches more then

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Speaker 2: than now, quite honestly, is they would tell you to

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Speaker 2: get to the ground and you would not take unnecessary hits.

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Speaker 2: We now see quarterbacks that are taking what would be

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Speaker 2: deemed unnecessary hits and offenses that are geared towards the

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Speaker 2: quarter back running. So that's I I didn't think I

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Speaker 2: would see that, especially now with the amount of money. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: thea's always been the highest paid guy. But Lamar Jackson,

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Speaker 2: you know, as much as he runs, I know that

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Speaker 2: they're maybe not going to run the ball as much

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Speaker 2: there this year with the new offensive coordinator. But uh yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's certainly important to keep these guys up right and

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00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 2: the league knows that they're the stars and they're they're

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Speaker 2: what sells the game.

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Speaker 1: Before I let you go, what's that feeling like when

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Speaker 1: you know you're gonna get hit right in the mouth

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Speaker 1: or in the sternam but you have to hang in

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Speaker 1: there to complete the pass.

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Speaker 2: H I never minded that. I never if we either

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Speaker 2: touchdown or or a completion, I've got a number. I

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Speaker 2: got a lot of scars on my chin here, Dan

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Speaker 2: from from taking a lot of helmets underneath the chin

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Speaker 2: strap when I was playing, uh, in order to try

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Speaker 2: to you know, that was my game. I wasn't the

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Speaker 2: most mobile guy, so you know, I think, you know,

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Speaker 2: guys like Tom Brady and Peyton Manning would say the

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Speaker 2: same thing. But that was that was the nature of

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Speaker 2: what you had to do, and if you were unwilling

709
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 2: to do it, you just were not going to be successful.

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Speaker 1: And you got stitched up during games.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, about seven or eight different times. I

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00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: almost got stitched up as many times as I had

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00:35:13,880 --> 00:35:17,200
Speaker 2: concussions back when I was when I was playing. So

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00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: it didn't take much either. I mean it got uh

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00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:23,120
Speaker 2: pretty cut up, pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you can't tell makeup. Makeup will cover that up

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00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,160
Speaker 1: on TV, that's right, you know that. Yeah, I got

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00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:33,080
Speaker 1: it on right without makeup. You should see this face,

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00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:39,600
Speaker 1: you know, unrecognizable. Yeah, yeah, I look like Terry Bradshaw. No,

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00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,399
Speaker 1: that's not true, that's me. Hey, good luck with the beer.

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Speaker 1: We always appreciate talking to you and thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Dan, that's uh.

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Speaker 1: T Roy Aikman eight committed to producing first class product

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Speaker 1: no hidden agendas, Authenticity Matters, Join team eight. All Right,

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Speaker 1: will take a break. Phone calls coming up. Charles Barkley

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Speaker 1: will join us in about it a half hour from now.

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Speaker 1: We're back after this on The Dan Patrick Show. Thanks

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Speaker 1: Marvin's Cookout Playlist, Who's this artist?

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Speaker 3: Listen?

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Speaker 1: Uh, here's Toto? Okay, so this would be played at

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Speaker 1: the cook.

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Speaker 3: Out, oh without questions?

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Speaker 1: And you weren't sure that this was Toto?

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Speaker 3: I had no idea. I was like the irony the

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Speaker 3: group that thinks.

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Speaker 1: Africa his name Toto, and.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I couldn't even believe it.

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Speaker 1: Surprise your tot.

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Speaker 3: Phenomenon.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's Georgie Porgy. It is, yes, that the same

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Speaker 1: band that gave us what is it hold the line

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Speaker 1: or hold on or what? Which hold the line? Is

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Speaker 1: that what Toto gave us? Also Africa? Yes, Todd, hold

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Speaker 1: the line was great. No no no no no no

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Speaker 1: no no no no no yes.

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Speaker 6: Well barbarique.

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Speaker 5: Imagine hearing the song and buying tickets back then to

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Speaker 5: the concert you showed to the contract.

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Speaker 6: Excuse me?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, what hold James in Virginia?

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Speaker 1: Whoa? There are a lot of white people here, oh Toto,

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Speaker 1: Oh look at that opening.

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Speaker 2: Dan, Right.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think it's the amount of white people

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Speaker 3: in the audience. It'd be the people on the stage. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because look, I've been to a fifty cent concert.

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Speaker 1: It's fitty that too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you might as well have gone to a John Mayor.

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Speaker 1: Oh really, okay, John Mayor candy shop.

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Speaker 3: Your body's a wonderland, same audience.

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Speaker 1: Okay, all right, all right? Uh John in Indiana? Hey John,

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Speaker 1: what's on your mind today.

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Speaker 10: First time, long time, six to one and a retired

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Speaker 10: to twenty. I just wanted to know, Dan, why you

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Speaker 10: pick on Central Michigan so much. We're act and I

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Speaker 10: want to know how many you dropped on on them? Yeah,

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Speaker 10: because I was in school at Central Michigan in the

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Speaker 10: late seventies. I saw Larry Bird drop forty five and seventeen.

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Speaker 10: But I can fell a life with me, cannot find

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Speaker 10: where Dan Dockys scored any points against Central Michigan.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, John. Yeah, I have nothing but great things

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Speaker 1: to say about Central Michigan, Eastern Michigan, Western Michigan, Northern Michigan,

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Speaker 1: Michigan in general, wonderful state, wonderful people.

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Speaker 6: We love directional schools.

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Speaker 1: But I did not face Central Michigan, just like I

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00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 1: didn't face Ball State. In fact, I didn't face anybody.

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Speaker 1: I'm sorry. Yeah, Doug in North Carolina, Hi, Doug, what's

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Speaker 1: on your mind today?

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Speaker 4: Well? Dan, let me preface this by saying I don't

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Speaker 4: know what I'm talking about. I haven't done an ounce

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Speaker 4: of research, but I will bet that my gut is

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Speaker 4: one hundred percent correct. I think I can interpret your

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Speaker 4: dream the Dan, and the dream is a Dan from

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Speaker 4: a distant past. It's a Dan from college, or it's

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Speaker 4: a Dan from Sports Center, And the other team is

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Speaker 4: you're running out of time. So there's some expectation or

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Speaker 4: some hope from your past that you feel you're running

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Speaker 4: out of time on I think it's your dream is

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Speaker 4: about Jenny Batchy.

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Speaker 1: Oh, I have other dreams about Jenny Batchy. It's nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with get the Sports Center on time. Poor

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Speaker 1: Jenny Batchie. She didn't ask for this. You know her

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Speaker 1: husband Tim, Tim. I'm sorry, man, it's sorry. It was

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Speaker 1: a joke that maybe we took a little too far.

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Speaker 1: Maybe do you have intel on this? No, but I

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Speaker 1: just I don't know her husband, but I know of

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Speaker 1: Tim and uh yeah that No, it's not that. No. No, no,

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Speaker 1: you guys called p a T. No. No I did not.

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Speaker 1: Oh sorry, no I did not.

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Speaker 6: Maybe Tim loves this, you know, it's emboldened.

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Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I don't know. How would you feel if

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Speaker 1: some you know, radio host, national radio host was talking

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Speaker 1: about your wife.

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Speaker 6: But I'm sitting with Jenny Batchie, I know.

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Speaker 1: But still talking about your wife.

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Speaker 7: See if I'm I look at those things a little differently,

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Speaker 7: I think because I'm into it I'm like, hell, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: I know you are.

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Speaker 7: I know I couldn't do it where Like, dude, if

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Speaker 7: somebody was like, wow, your wife is hot, Like some guys.

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Speaker 1: Would be like what what'd you say? I'd be like, yeah, no, yeah,

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Speaker 1: But I don't want to know who my wife dated.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't want to know. Like you're okay

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Speaker 1: with it mostly WHOA mostly okay?

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I occasionally bubbles up and I'm like, I'm not comfortable

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Speaker 1: with this.

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Speaker 4: I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't want to know. I don't want to know.

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Speaker 7: But you don't if you're Tim and you're sitting here

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Speaker 7: right now watching and you're like, dude, this dude just

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Speaker 7: still after all these years.

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Speaker 1: No, I'm I'm long over Jenny Batchie.

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Speaker 6: He's red Hourbach though. He's got this cigar he's sitting there.

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Speaker 1: No, no, I wish them nothing but love. Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: better not come into my dojo, Tim, No, No, how

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Speaker 1: many sports Emmys you got? Tim?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: You go scoreboards?

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Speaker 1: Well maybe nominations, we don't. Sorry, Yeah, that'll do it.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that'll ruin his day. Doesn't have a sports Emmy.

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Speaker 1: He's got Jenny though. Charles Barkley coming out final hour