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Speaker 1: Be around the NFL podcast. This whole arrangement is absurd.

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Speaker 1: From the Chris Wesley podcast studio, it's around the NFL.

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Speaker 1: I'm Dan Hansas. There are heroes in this room with me,

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Speaker 1: Greg roseal Mark Sessler. Now that I've set the table,

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Speaker 1: or so. Well, you know, it's like we settle into

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Speaker 1: got a message this morning from some Shadowy League figures

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Speaker 1: that like? The podcast? It's podcasts and we the Daily

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Speaker 1: I can't. So if you guys could just space time

428
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,080
Speaker 1: me and that'd be awesome, all right, we could bring

429
00:21:48,119 --> 00:21:51,600
Speaker 1: it in on that, we absolutely can. So, Jane, we're

430
00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:55,280
Speaker 1: trying to make sense of the Cowboys right now, and

431
00:21:55,640 --> 00:21:57,560
Speaker 1: I know they so they get the job done on

432
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Speaker 1: Thursday night in New Orleans, and that's a Aint team

433
00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:02,679
Speaker 1: that's got all sorts of problems. Their defense got it

434
00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:05,679
Speaker 1: done in the third fourth quarter there, so you snapped

435
00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,560
Speaker 1: the losing streak. But do you get the sense right

436
00:22:08,600 --> 00:22:11,560
Speaker 1: now that the Cowboys are on a good trajectory or

437
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: is this as still a searching team that's a little

438
00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:16,080
Speaker 1: bit of trouble as we hit the home stretch. You know,

439
00:22:16,119 --> 00:22:18,040
Speaker 1: I do a podcast with a bunch of the Beat

440
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 1: writers up at the Star once a week, and I

441
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:22,879
Speaker 1: found myself arguing with Steve Dennis, the moderator, because this

442
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 1: topic came up, and I was defending the Cowboys based

443
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,639
Speaker 1: on their body of work during that six and one stretch.

444
00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,000
Speaker 1: They beat the Chargers on the road. Of course, they

445
00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:34,720
Speaker 1: almost had to win against Tampa Bay and Tom Brady uh,

446
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,840
Speaker 1: and I thought that there was some convincing signs that

447
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,560
Speaker 1: this team was equipped for a postseason run. And then

448
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:44,359
Speaker 1: they sort of after Da got injured, and then they

449
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:47,320
Speaker 1: lost to Mary for two games, and then to see

450
00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 1: them play in that Saints game that you just referenced,

451
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 1: the Saints didn't have their two starting defense events they're

452
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: two starting tackles. They didn't have Alvin Kimbera, and they

453
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Speaker 1: had Taysom Hill, who's been dealing with planner fasciitis and

454
00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 1: how to play four quarters. Yea. And they kept the

455
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: door open for the Saints heading into the second half.

456
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,879
Speaker 1: Now they were able to get Tony Pollard going that

457
00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 1: fifty or touchdown, And of course there was that one

458
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:13,720
Speaker 1: ref call that the NFL admitted they sort of messed up.

459
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: And if you talk to the Saints, that took the

460
00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,160
Speaker 1: steam out of what they were doing. But I look

461
00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: at that Raiders overtime loss, the Broncos loss. They're a

462
00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,359
Speaker 1: confusing team. But I gotta tell you, guys, if you

463
00:23:27,359 --> 00:23:29,879
Speaker 1: look at the Rams and the way they've been playing,

464
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,880
Speaker 1: or you look at the Tampa Bay Bucks, I don't

465
00:23:31,920 --> 00:23:34,280
Speaker 1: know what to make of this team or the NFC

466
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: right now. So the Cowboys are getting a lot of

467
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: pieces back of the defensive side of the ball. And

468
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,960
Speaker 1: I really appreciated dan Quinn's answer saying that if you

469
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Speaker 1: had told me we'd be sitting here at eight and

470
00:23:44,400 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: four in December without DeMarcus Lawrence not having Randy Gregory

471
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: for a couple of games, um, he would have said,

472
00:23:53,359 --> 00:23:56,920
Speaker 1: oh wow. And essentially, now this is cool. These guys

473
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,720
Speaker 1: have been battle tested they're getting reinforcements back, and then

474
00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:04,159
Speaker 1: they're playing a really weak NFC East here three of

475
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:06,680
Speaker 1: their four games this month, so there's an opportunity there.

476
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: But I would also submit look at the way Washington

477
00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,560
Speaker 1: has been playing. They're only two games back. The defense

478
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:17,400
Speaker 1: be Tampa Bay Bucks two two hundred seventy three yards

479
00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 1: picked him off twice. Then you see what they did

480
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,360
Speaker 1: against the Raiders. She saw what they did against Seattle.

481
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: You saw what they get against the Panthers. This is

482
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:25,520
Speaker 1: gonna be an interesting month for the NFC East. And

483
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 1: I gotta tell you, I don't know what to make

484
00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 1: it as Cowboys team right now. They've got the talent,

485
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:34,399
Speaker 1: they've got the pieces, but for whatever reason, just the

486
00:24:34,480 --> 00:24:36,920
Speaker 1: rhythm has been off. And if you got you, guys,

487
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,480
Speaker 1: I'd be curious your thoughts, because you're not as myopic

488
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,040
Speaker 1: as I am. What did you think of this offense

489
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:45,520
Speaker 1: and the way it played against the Saints? Well, I

490
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 1: think you know you're pointing out and everyone following the

491
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:51,480
Speaker 1: Cowboys is sort of wondering what's happened to them since

492
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 1: Dad came back. But there's reasons for it. And now

493
00:24:54,119 --> 00:24:56,680
Speaker 1: all these offenses around the league are going through ebb

494
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,960
Speaker 1: and flow and some slumps. I mean, the defense, if anything,

495
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: has been a huge bright point coming off of last year,

496
00:25:02,240 --> 00:25:04,440
Speaker 1: and Dan Quinn has made that a reliable part of

497
00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:06,600
Speaker 1: the team. I would ask it this way, like Kellen

498
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,320
Speaker 1: Moore's offense in general, and you can throw out last

499
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 1: year if you want um. But they get three years

500
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,440
Speaker 1: in a row off to very hot starts, and three

501
00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: years in a row they said they tend to kind

502
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 1: of I wouldn't say flat line, but they lose some

503
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,800
Speaker 1: of their star power that makes you think they're that explosive.

504
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: Is it a Kelly? Is there anything about the Kellen

505
00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 1: Moore offense it has is contributing to what we're seeing.

506
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Speaker 1: I'd love to have our research department look into this

507
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 1: and I and I might because it might be hard

508
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,960
Speaker 1: to quantify and qualify. But I think about the offenses

509
00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: and how hot they were, but when they started to

510
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,159
Speaker 1: lose steam was when we started having problems with the

511
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 1: offensive line. Think about Travis Frederick, we had Yon Barrey syndrome. Uh.

512
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Speaker 1: When I think about Zack Martin when he wasn't there

513
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 1: with COVID, When I think about LEL Collins who had

514
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 1: the suspension when I think about Tyren Smith, who has

515
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: had injuries pop up. Everyone wants to point to that

516
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: offense that was predicated around the run. Well, it was

517
00:26:00,240 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: easy to run the ball when you had the Great

518
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: Wall of Dallas. They haven't really had that. And they've

519
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,440
Speaker 1: also been playing with that offensive line a lot, which

520
00:26:07,800 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: we joke about around here because when we brought up

521
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 1: the notion was it last year and this year? I

522
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: can't remember. It's all blending together, Uh, the notion of

523
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,840
Speaker 1: the best starting five, and it was Mike McCarthy said,

524
00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:22,280
Speaker 1: we can't play fantasy football. Consistency is key. They haven't

525
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: had a lot of consistency on that offensive line to share,

526
00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 1: and in fact, they've been tinkering with things not only

527
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: during series or in game, but throughout the year, and

528
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:32,679
Speaker 1: so I think they're trying to figure out what to

529
00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: do with that left side and Connor Williams, I'm just

530
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,159
Speaker 1: not so sure that some of these games are the

531
00:26:38,160 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: place to do it. It's like I always have a

532
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: theory with the Cowboys that they stink in the years

533
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,760
Speaker 1: that they're coming off good years because it's like they're

534
00:26:47,800 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 1: just such first of all, their ownership like tells them

535
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,640
Speaker 1: how great they are all off season. They're like their celebrities.

536
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:56,919
Speaker 1: I think in a way in Dallas that almost no

537
00:26:57,080 --> 00:27:01,040
Speaker 1: NFL team um is in their hometown down and they

538
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,480
Speaker 1: just come out the next year and they're like always disappointed.

539
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 1: I almost wonder if that happened halfway through this season,

540
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:09,480
Speaker 1: because Jerry Jones started talking about like like there, this

541
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,440
Speaker 1: is the greatest team ever. And I have this vision

542
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,480
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys, who to me, on paper are actually

543
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:17,919
Speaker 1: the best team in the NFC. And I still and

544
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: they're actually healthier now than almost any of the other

545
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 1: NFC teams, and they're they're gonna have everything in place

546
00:27:24,040 --> 00:27:25,960
Speaker 1: for the next five games. It's in front of them.

547
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,640
Speaker 1: But the Cowboys team that's in my mind is the

548
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: one that destroyed the Eagles and the Panthers, and that

549
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,199
Speaker 1: was like two months ago. Now, like they gotta start

550
00:27:34,560 --> 00:27:36,959
Speaker 1: showing up. Do you think they almost started buying their

551
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:42,680
Speaker 1: own Jerry Jones? What's the analogy and dating that every

552
00:27:42,680 --> 00:27:46,280
Speaker 1: time man says he's starry, you start to love him less.

553
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: I feel like that's the Cowboys like fan base. It's

554
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: like every year like we're gonna come back next year,

555
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,439
Speaker 1: and it's like I've noticed I mean, my father is

556
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: literally he carries the flag for this. He's the type

557
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: of guy that literally starts the first quarter with the

558
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 1: cowboy flag flag play, you know, flying in the front yard,

559
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: and then he takes it down. Not dissimilar to what

560
00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: happens with the Texas Longhorns. But I think the reason

561
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: why people were so um high on the Hog this

562
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,720
Speaker 1: year was because of how bad this team was last year.

563
00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 1: I kept saying, if they got the middle of the

564
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: pack defense, this team could be special. Given what they

565
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 1: had on offense, I mean, they have an embarrassment of

566
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: riches when you look at their three wide receivers. Not

567
00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:29,040
Speaker 1: to mention, you've had guys like Centric Wilson, Maurice Kennedy

568
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:31,680
Speaker 1: who have sort of come out of nowhere that are

569
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,920
Speaker 1: receiving threats. You've got Tony Pollard that can give you

570
00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:36,400
Speaker 1: the burse for fifty yard touchdown. You haven't got much

571
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 1: play out of your tight ends. That's fair, um, But

572
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:41,600
Speaker 1: when you look around the league, what other teams have

573
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:45,200
Speaker 1: that many weapons in the NFC, and there's in they're

574
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,160
Speaker 1: all back, the old lines back. It's healthy. Like the

575
00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: weapons are back, they're healthy, and now the defense is

576
00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: back it's healthy, So show it to me. It's Washington twice,

577
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,040
Speaker 1: it's the Giants, it's the Cardinals, it's at Philadelphia. It's

578
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,360
Speaker 1: a very interesting, you know, division heavy sched you'll here,

579
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: But to me, it's still all in front of them

580
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,880
Speaker 1: to go get that two or three seed. And I

581
00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,080
Speaker 1: do believe that team kind of turn two or three.

582
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,280
Speaker 1: I just I keep thinking, if they had ten other

583
00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:12,480
Speaker 1: deat Prescott's on that offensive side the ball, this team

584
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: could really be special. And I'm not taking away anything

585
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: from like the Zack Martin's of the world, or um,

586
00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 1: you know, the Tyrant Smiths or even Ezekiel And who's

587
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: been battling through the right knew, which you could argue,

588
00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:26,600
Speaker 1: is that the best thing that they should be doing

589
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:29,160
Speaker 1: right now is keeping I would have sat Zeke against

590
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,840
Speaker 1: the Saints personally kept in fresh for some of these

591
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,960
Speaker 1: divisial games, but that's above my pay grade. I'm just

592
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 1: here to report. Um, it's just they just, for whatever reason,

593
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:43,920
Speaker 1: can't seem to put it all together. Although I would

594
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 1: submit I don't think any of us expected them to

595
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: be what the four seed right now and the NFC

596
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,240
Speaker 1: given what we saw last year, so I don't know,

597
00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 1: it's keep the expectations low and you'll be pleasantly surprised. Yeah.

598
00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 1: I think you look at the schedule here, Jane, and

599
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 1: it does look at I think because of the slump

600
00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 1: here and because of Green Bay, Arizona and Tampa to

601
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 1: me being the clear class of the NFL, not just

602
00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 1: the NFC. Um. I think right now, it's like, all right,

603
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,160
Speaker 1: let's go tenant seven, let's win our division, let's get

604
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 1: a home game in the playoffs, and hopefully things start

605
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 1: clicking again. Um. Do you think And I know you

606
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: said like eleven dacks in their set, so you don't

607
00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 1: put anything in like the splits of the calf injury.

608
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:28,120
Speaker 1: He comes back and and I know he made some

609
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,760
Speaker 1: real money throws, some brilliant throws against the Saints as well,

610
00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 1: but statistically and when you look at the offense as

611
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,600
Speaker 1: a whole, they haven't been the same since his return.

612
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 1: Do you think he's been hindered at all physically since

613
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Speaker 1: his return or is that a thing in the past.

614
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, to your point, you could say that, but

615
00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: then you see some of the throws that he makes

616
00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: and some of the throws that he makes in the

617
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: fourth quarter, and you're like this is not a guy

618
00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: that's feeling limited. I think, if anything, not having Michael

619
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Speaker 1: Gallup for what was it five six weeks, not having

620
00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: a Marii Cooper for the two they've talked about this

621
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 1: even coming into the Season's how you know it takes

622
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 1: practice to get the timing right with some of your

623
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: wide receivers, and I think it could be a combination

624
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,760
Speaker 1: of that and then also a combination of whether he'll

625
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 1: admit it or not. You talk to any extreme athletes

626
00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,680
Speaker 1: who play in a in a fairly dangerous game. Once

627
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: fear enters your mind or there's that hesitation, you're not

628
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: playing as loose or as free as you used to,

629
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,680
Speaker 1: and when you're coming off to pretty significant injuries. And

630
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:31,400
Speaker 1: again I don't think he'll ever admit this, and maybe

631
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: it's not even conscious, but I just don't think that

632
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 1: you're playing as wild or loose out there as perhaps

633
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: we've seen him in years past. And that's smart, by

634
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:41,840
Speaker 1: the way, like that's what the franchise wants you to do.

635
00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: But I do think it's a combination of the O

636
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: line not having the wide receivers there this year, having

637
00:31:48,360 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Ezekiel Elliott who has been injured I think all of

638
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: those things. Everyone wants a clear cut answer, but I

639
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:56,840
Speaker 1: think it's it's a combination of a few of those things.

640
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Speaker 1: But I do think that this team, if they just

641
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 1: get in a rhythm here again, they they are, to

642
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,840
Speaker 1: your point, I think one of the most talented rosters

643
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,760
Speaker 1: in the NFL. Now, can they be coached as well

644
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: as some of these other teams, um and put it

645
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: all together in order to make a run. I have

646
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,200
Speaker 1: a very quick question for you. You're in Dallas. You're

647
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:20,120
Speaker 1: a Dallas site. Um if that's the term Dallas debut tant?

648
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: Last time, Um, you can give me a ballpark date

649
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,160
Speaker 1: on this last time you were at the Grassy Knoll?

650
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: Maybe for drinks a picnic on the Grassy Knoll. When's

651
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: the last time you were there? Okay? So this see,

652
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 1: this is why I love coming on this show, Mark,

653
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: because you speak to my soul and conspiracy theories and

654
00:32:35,320 --> 00:32:38,640
Speaker 1: all sorts of fun. Fact. I live a block and

655
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a half away from the Grassy Knoll, suspicious and exactly.

656
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 1: And my sister and I had just been to Chicago

657
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: to visit my brother, and she dropped me off from

658
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: the airport and she was like, where was Kennedy shot,

659
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you're kidding me, right, Like we've lived

660
00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,480
Speaker 1: in the city our whole life, and so I said, literally,

661
00:32:57,520 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 1: go a block and a half over and there's a

662
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: big X in the middle of street. When I worked

663
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: local news here, there was a big debate. They removed

664
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: the X the next The X is actually where Kennedy

665
00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,800
Speaker 1: was shot to signify where he actually was harmed. I

666
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: don't want to get too graphic, even though I know

667
00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 1: you're really into that stuff. Mark um where he was

668
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: shot before they went unto the bridge. But people stand

669
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of that street X marks the spot

670
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 1: for a photographics morbid. It's like when Darren Ravel sent

671
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 1: that video of his brains getting blown out and everyone

672
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:31,400
Speaker 1: was upset on Twitter that that that's how the import started.

673
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: But I gotta tell you, I was. I was. I

674
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 1: was disappointed that Q and On had this whole theory

675
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 1: that JFK Jr. Was making his triumphant return to help

676
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:44,480
Speaker 1: the Republican Party, which was fascinating to me since totally

677
00:33:44,520 --> 00:33:46,760
Speaker 1: legitimate to the to the three of us, to be honest,

678
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 1: but JFK Jr. Is one of the main reasons I

679
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:51,920
Speaker 1: went to journalism school. In fact, I have a bunch

680
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:56,040
Speaker 1: of rare George magazine in my living room. I love him,

681
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,080
Speaker 1: and I almost put on my Sunday best and went

682
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: down there just hoping that he'd come back for me.

683
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:04,080
Speaker 1: Well maybe, you know, I know it hasn't happened yet,

684
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 1: but we don't have proof that it won't happen. Jane,

685
00:34:08,160 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: thank you for joining us and uh and and men

686
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:14,439
Speaker 1: out there, single men out there. He'd what Jane says,

687
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 1: never apologize for anything was because it actually makes you

688
00:34:18,360 --> 00:34:22,319
Speaker 1: more unattractive to the woman. That's like the only thing

689
00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I remember. I was just like burned into my head. Jane. Good, Um,

690
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:33,919
Speaker 1: all right there she goes Jane's later and by the way,

691
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:37,600
Speaker 1: blow blew his brains out. Do you need to be

692
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,359
Speaker 1: so great? Yeah? Great, that was an assassination. You took

693
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: it to a place that was unnecessary. Well, I was

694
00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: trying to just put people in the minds of what

695
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: that horrible morning on Twitter was like it was. It

696
00:34:49,920 --> 00:34:53,880
Speaker 1: was something. It was still around. I haven't seen it

697
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,640
Speaker 1: happened recently. People talked about the anniversary of him doing this,

698
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:01,240
Speaker 1: and I think it was because I was to um

699
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: impacted and saw this video that he put out there

700
00:35:03,800 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: which I had never seen before. Um, and it was

701
00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: a lot at seven film. Essentially, you had never witnessed that. Well,

702
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,360
Speaker 1: if you if you're if you're getting cold cold with

703
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,680
Speaker 1: that on Twitter? That I had seen the I had

704
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 1: seen the Natalie Portman movie, which does quite a graphic

705
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 1: recreation of it. Well, it was a terrifying moment the

706
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:23,960
Speaker 1: history of the country. Right, But it's it's kind of

707
00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: like these videos of horrible things happening on Twitter, like

708
00:35:27,600 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 1: you don't need to see him just you know, you

709
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:34,879
Speaker 1: don't need to watch it. Well, you know what happens, Dan,

710
00:35:34,960 --> 00:35:36,880
Speaker 1: get us out of that. I will say, if you

711
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:40,839
Speaker 1: are ever in Dallas, Uh, the book to the Book

712
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:45,520
Speaker 1: Depository where Lee Harvey Ozald acted alone. By the way mark,

713
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:50,400
Speaker 1: they have turned that upper level into a museum. It's incredible.

714
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: I went there with Gonzo. Actually, it's incredible. Yeah. And

715
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: and it's not it's not it's not a morbid thing.

716
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,080
Speaker 1: It's a piece of American history. And you know it's

717
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: it's worth check out, spending a couple of hours of

718
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,319
Speaker 1: your day. Um, all right, where are we exactly? All right,

719
00:36:07,360 --> 00:36:09,520
Speaker 1: let's move on, let's hit break and then there's a

720
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: night football. All right, thank you to Jane Slater. Let's

721
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: now turn our attention to week fourteen, and to do that,

722
00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 1: we bring in our girl, Mrs Jonas. Ah, there she is,

723
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: Priyanka Chopra Jonas. Get that hyphen in there. Yep. It

724
00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:40,840
Speaker 1: is a double double last name situation. Sitch in a

725
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: big spot, uh, and I hope that marriage stands the

726
00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 1: test of time. Now the Pittsburgh Steelers in Minnesota Vikings,

727
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:54,319
Speaker 1: WHOA it's kind of perfect, yeah, Mark, Mark thought this

728
00:36:54,360 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: game wasn't gonna mean anything for one of the teams,

729
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: and then the Steelers went and revitalized their season with

730
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:03,359
Speaker 1: a stunning come back against the Ravens. So they enter

731
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:06,640
Speaker 1: uh this game six five and one. They are in

732
00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 1: the thick of it in the a f C Wild

733
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 1: Card rays. And then you have the Vikings, the Vikings

734
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:18,240
Speaker 1: who three weeks ago beat the Packers and then lost

735
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:21,040
Speaker 1: back to back games at San Francisco and then it

736
00:37:21,120 --> 00:37:25,000
Speaker 1: almost impossibly possible at the same time if you knew

737
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:27,400
Speaker 1: this team to the Lions. So now they are in

738
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:32,920
Speaker 1: a essentially a must win situation for the Vikings. And

739
00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,399
Speaker 1: I would say, Mark that the Vikings in a must

740
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:39,960
Speaker 1: win situation giving given their talent and what they've shown

741
00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,560
Speaker 1: at times this season, makes me feel confident that they're

742
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:44,879
Speaker 1: gonna perform well on Thursday Night. But this is also

743
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: now a different Vikings team than the one. For instance,

744
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: that I looked at a couple of weeks ago and

745
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: saw a high ceiling. There's no Dalblin Cook. Uh there,

746
00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:55,360
Speaker 1: it's very it's very unlikely that you have Adam Feland

747
00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:57,439
Speaker 1: who suffered a high ankle sprain so on a short week.

748
00:37:57,520 --> 00:37:59,959
Speaker 1: I don't think he's coming back from that. So now

749
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: you have an offense that's been compromised and a team

750
00:38:02,600 --> 00:38:05,280
Speaker 1: in general that has to be a little traumatized after

751
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:08,320
Speaker 1: what's happened to them in recent weeks. Well they were

752
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:12,680
Speaker 1: they were, you know, toying with the darkest reality scenarios,

753
00:38:12,719 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: and the losing to the Lions, which we think our

754
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: show fairly called that is a realistic scenario, which just

755
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 1: with the way they've been, Um, it happened, it's now

756
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:22,839
Speaker 1: you've got to deal with it. I like that they

757
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: get Patrick Peterson back. Um, I think it's gonna be

758
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,600
Speaker 1: interesting to see what happens to Justin Jefferson in this

759
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,439
Speaker 1: game with dealing out I guess if you're Pittsburgh, you're thinking,

760
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: we we try to do our best to remove him.

761
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:37,240
Speaker 1: Good luck with that. He has nine more twenty yard

762
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: catches since than any other human being on the earth.

763
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 1: But if you're Pittsburgh, the one thing I kind of

764
00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:44,400
Speaker 1: want to see. I thought at the end of the

765
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 1: Ravens game, they kind of just said, this offense that

766
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: we've been, let's just kind of give it to Big Ben,

767
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: open it up a little bit, try to have him

768
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,800
Speaker 1: make some throws. And it just seemed you got the

769
00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: more comfortable version of Big Ben there, and he looked

770
00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 1: better than me than he had another game. Is there

771
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: any sustainability to that against this Vikings defense? Is there

772
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 1: any identity shift that they want to cling to down

773
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,480
Speaker 1: the stretch because their offense has been mostly unwatchable, But

774
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:12,320
Speaker 1: that became the opposite a little bit against the Ravens,

775
00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: who were really banged up in the second days. But

776
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 1: so are the that the Vikings are not. Rather, Patrick

777
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: Peterson is returning. That's been the strength of their team

778
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:25,120
Speaker 1: is past rush, past defense. Uh, it sounds like Anthony

779
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,080
Speaker 1: Barrowby back, Eric Kendricks might be back. Like those three

780
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:30,480
Speaker 1: guys being out for Minnesota was huge, and I think

781
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: the biggest injury for Minnesota and that Detroit game was

782
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,360
Speaker 1: they didn't have their left tackle, Christian Derrisaw, and so

783
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: they they did the thing where they shuffled three different

784
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160
Speaker 1: guys and it didn't seem like it worked. And now

785
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 1: you gotta go up against t J. Watt, who is

786
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:45,359
Speaker 1: coming off a three and a half sack game where

787
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 1: he was so disciplined with those rush lanes where he

788
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:51,600
Speaker 1: I think he put himself in front for Defensive Player

789
00:39:51,640 --> 00:39:53,800
Speaker 1: of the Year. I give him a little bit of

790
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:57,360
Speaker 1: an edge, uh for career achievement too, because the last

791
00:39:57,400 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: three years, to me, he's been the best edge rusher

792
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: in the NFL, and he the Steelers go as he goes.

793
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 1: I pointed out two weeks ago he was coming off

794
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,000
Speaker 1: an injury and he had his worst game of the

795
00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: season against the Chargers. He was backing in a big

796
00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,600
Speaker 1: way and he's gonna get after Kirk Cousins. I think

797
00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 1: there'll be plenty of points in this game, I think.

798
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:16,879
Speaker 1: And it's funny because I wrote about in the Power

799
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,320
Speaker 1: Rings yesterday and then Big Ben came out today and said,

800
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:22,719
Speaker 1: this guy needs t J. Watt to be an m

801
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:24,920
Speaker 1: v P candidate, But we need to start looking at

802
00:40:25,200 --> 00:40:28,000
Speaker 1: him in that way. And it actually not to give

803
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,839
Speaker 1: Ben too much credit, but it makes sense that this

804
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: would be a year where a defensive player could get

805
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,319
Speaker 1: in the mix. It hasn't happened in thirty five years

806
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 1: since LT and eighty six. But I think what especially

807
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: sixteen sacks he is Uh, he needs to get to

808
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,240
Speaker 1: twenty two and a half to break that Food Gazze

809
00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: Stray hand record. And when you fact, when you think

810
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 1: about the non quarterbacks in this sport, Uh, is there

811
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,319
Speaker 1: anyone that's important to their team who's as valuable to

812
00:40:55,360 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: their team as t J. Watt is to Pittsburgh? No,

813
00:40:59,080 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: because I would say that if you a couple of

814
00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: weeks ago, the sack leader was Myles Garrett and like

815
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:07,560
Speaker 1: Miles Gett is a star player. But t J. Watt

816
00:41:07,600 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: has talked about the way that you talked about J. J.

817
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: Watt and Lawrence Taylor back in the day. Because he's

818
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,080
Speaker 1: that focal central to the run to Greg, I'm with

819
00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,480
Speaker 1: you that where he goes, they go right and he

820
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 1: he makes such a difference in every play and that's

821
00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:27,040
Speaker 1: gonna be a big mismatch up front, and yet I

822
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 1: don't know about the whole like Ben throwing the ball

823
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,800
Speaker 1: deep down the field is the new idea there he

824
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: he did look better. I thought that was his best game.

825
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:35,839
Speaker 1: I agree with you, Mark, And it makes sense because

826
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 1: Deante Johnson Chase Claypool are the best two players on

827
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: their offense. So why not just keep throwing up to

828
00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:43,680
Speaker 1: him when it's when it's one on one. But Minnesota's

829
00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 1: had a way of doing pretty well against the past

830
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,439
Speaker 1: this year, and the way they've been kind of weak

831
00:41:48,560 --> 00:41:51,799
Speaker 1: is is against the run. I I want to see

832
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:54,359
Speaker 1: what Justin Jefferson does here in this big spot like game.

833
00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,360
Speaker 1: He is about to set the record for the most

834
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,799
Speaker 1: yards that any receivers had in NFL history through his

835
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,759
Speaker 1: first two years of the season. To me, he'd be

836
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: right there behind Cooper Cup right now as Offensive Player

837
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:08,359
Speaker 1: of the Year. I'd still have Cup there for sure.

838
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: Uh And Joe Hayden has been out for Pittsburgh And

839
00:42:11,600 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: to me, that was the most surprising part of that game,

840
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,240
Speaker 1: was like Lamar and the Ravens could not make that count.

841
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,879
Speaker 1: They're they're playing guys that like a killer Weatherspoon as

842
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: a starter and stuff that like the forty Niners cut

843
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 1: like a couple of weeks ago, and they're just putting

844
00:42:25,600 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: him picking the mop off the scrap heeople. Like you

845
00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 1: should be able to win some matchups on the outside

846
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: if you're Minnesota, if Kirk Cousins is really a top

847
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 1: ten quarterback, which I have him this year, like you

848
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 1: should be able to make some hay here. I think

849
00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: Jefferson is in that very um elite club with Davante Adams,

850
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: maybe Cooper Cup uh, where it really doesn't matter who's

851
00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,919
Speaker 1: across from them on the field. They're gonna get their

852
00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:50,720
Speaker 1: make impact plays at some point or if you're getting

853
00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:54,120
Speaker 1: doubled or whatever, it's like he'll get his UM. So

854
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,840
Speaker 1: I think it's all setting up with like, Okay, it

855
00:42:56,920 --> 00:43:01,439
Speaker 1: makes sense for this Pittsburgh team, uh you continue their rise.

856
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 1: But at the same time, this also makes sense in

857
00:43:04,040 --> 00:43:05,960
Speaker 1: a season that hasn't made sense for the Vikings for

858
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,840
Speaker 1: them to play really well here. Um, I would probably

859
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:12,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick the Vikings as because at five and

860
00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,279
Speaker 1: eight they're cooked and uh, I think they're gonna find

861
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 1: a way to win. It would make sense to me,

862
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: Like you, what was the game you looked at last week? Uh?

863
00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:22,480
Speaker 1: I think it was charges bangles, Like, oh, it makes

864
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: more sense if both these teams are seven and five.

865
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 1: It makes sense to me that after this Thursday, and

866
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: this is really analytical, but it checks out that the

867
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: Vikings are six and seven and the Steelers are six,

868
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,359
Speaker 1: six and one, that makes more sense to me. It's

869
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:36,560
Speaker 1: what I want. I think that's what we're gonna get.

870
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,040
Speaker 1: So what I want and so what I'm rooting for.

871
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 1: The Vikings are favored by three, and yet that the

872
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,479
Speaker 1: vibes and I know we're like leaning on last week

873
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: a little much, but the vibes in Minnesota like it

874
00:43:48,000 --> 00:43:50,920
Speaker 1: is on the it is on the precipice, the Vikings Twitter.

875
00:43:51,120 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean that losing to the Lions is just like

876
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 1: the worst thing that can happen to you, and it

877
00:43:57,120 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: is a home game. I don't know if that makes

878
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,920
Speaker 1: me feel better. Like if they're loose, seen by eight

879
00:44:00,960 --> 00:44:04,000
Speaker 1: points here in the third or fourth quarter, like Kirk

880
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:06,600
Speaker 1: Cousins getting a little tight and Mike Zimmer getting a

881
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,960
Speaker 1: little tight and the crowd being against them and like

882
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 1: and they're being like a firing after this game, like

883
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: feels like it's at least on the tape, Like if

884
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,799
Speaker 1: you could go, like, if you could give me ten

885
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:19,680
Speaker 1: to one odds of that, like I would take that. Also,

886
00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 1: like if they lose by like twenty points in this

887
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:24,040
Speaker 1: game and Zimmer's not the coach next, it would have

888
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:25,920
Speaker 1: been a very rough three weeks for Zimmer. I'm just

889
00:44:25,960 --> 00:44:30,600
Speaker 1: saying that this is these are nice Midwestern fans. They're

890
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 1: gonna cheer the hell out of this. I don't think

891
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 1: they're going to start hissing. And I think it's gonna

892
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 1: be a home field advantage. I think that play is

893
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna be rock and I think it's one of the

894
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 1: best home field advantages in the league. And I could

895
00:44:43,600 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: I could just see Ben really struggling on the road

896
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: in the spot. I I feel pretty good about it.

897
00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: I'll go Vikings, uh two Steelers nineteen and overtime. They're done.

898
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: And by the way, we are four games away from

899
00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:00,719
Speaker 1: and we thought this would be a mythical thing that

900
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,759
Speaker 1: would take years to happen, and maybe it will. But

901
00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: an eight eight and one team the Steelers are perfect

902
00:45:05,080 --> 00:45:08,880
Speaker 1: to become that I would enjoy to see that. Alright,

903
00:45:09,080 --> 00:45:13,239
Speaker 1: very good. That is Thursday night football, Mark and I

904
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:16,719
Speaker 1: will handle that recap together. Two hander as they called

905
00:45:16,880 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: industry talk. They're back together industry parlance. You know, you

906
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: know we had to you know, there were some things

907
00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 1: to negotiate, but we're good. Right. It's like Mike and

908
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: the Mad Dog when I got to the point where

909
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: matt Dog wasn't invited to for incesss wed and then

910
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:33,600
Speaker 1: the wives had to get involved and be like, no,

911
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:35,480
Speaker 1: is it you're saying it's it is at that point

912
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,560
Speaker 1: that's alarming to me to just that's how we were

913
00:45:37,560 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 1: able to get the get together for Thursday. The wives

914
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:43,839
Speaker 1: got involved. Well it's news to me. All right, there

915
00:45:43,880 --> 00:45:47,600
Speaker 1: you go. That is Thursday night football. Um, we'll be

916
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: back on Thursday. How about that? Um with a full

917
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:59,040
Speaker 1: preview of week fourteen, and then we will have the

918
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:02,680
Speaker 1: mini pod Thursday night. If Mark and I were able

919
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:05,640
Speaker 1: to kind of work through our issues and then uh,

920
00:46:05,680 --> 00:46:10,560
Speaker 1: I want everyone to want everyone today, everyone to have

921
00:46:10,600 --> 00:46:13,960
Speaker 1: a good time tonight at the holiday party is the

922
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 1: big I think Actually you're sensing that something will happen

923
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: at the holiday holiday party that puts us in this bedsit.

924
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:23,560
Speaker 1: You got it, Okay, you nailed it. There's room for

925
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:25,520
Speaker 1: adventure when you when you present it and wouldn't that

926
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:29,479
Speaker 1: be good because just to add something exciting to life. Yeah,

927
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 1: like some type of huge dust up tonight at the

928
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:35,239
Speaker 1: holiday party, but Greg's secretly dance somehow they hit the

929
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:38,040
Speaker 1: match on and then you know. Then it's the Around

930
00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:41,239
Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast with Greg Rosen though his lifelong goal.

931
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,319
Speaker 1: This is always your take here a lot, a lot

932
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:50,320
Speaker 1: about what in your head. Ricky, Um, let's keep this

933
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,239
Speaker 1: music playing. We'll playing out is the holiday season, after all,

934
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,400
Speaker 1: We'll be back until then. This is Dan hands As

935
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,040
Speaker 1: signed off for Quiet Storm, the Old Boss, Ricky Hollywood,

936
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: Jane Later, Oh Gay until Thursday Head the Call