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Speaker 1: Well, it looks like Boston has a two game lead

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Speaker 1: we're getting with one.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're getting Usually you get more wells. Well, guess what,

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Speaker 2: NBA fans, just one well, just a well, just efficient today.

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Speaker 1: But the action is heading back to Dallas for the

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Speaker 3: And we're not for people from Wiston, We're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not counting the MAVs out yet because the hopium

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Speaker 1: is still there and we love embracing it. And we'll

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Speaker 1: discuss the first couple of games, what we can expect

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Speaker 1: moving forward and more with journalists and NBA handlyst Sarah

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Speaker 1: Todd on today's episode.

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Speaker 2: Sarah Todd, I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien and

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Speaker 2: this is Miles and Jack dot three.

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Speaker 3: Got it look at the hitch ta Okay.

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Speaker 1: Indeed, driving Spinny le.

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Speaker 3: Bron's got it with five? Is gonna try another three? Mister,

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Speaker 3: Look Bron, James, be honest, you look at man the

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Speaker 3: whole episode. We're gonna do it in this in honor

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Speaker 3: of you.

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Speaker 2: Boston was so impressed by a super team.

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, get out, Get out, guys.

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Speaker 1: It's it's happened anyway, Sarah, welcome back to the show.

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Speaker 2: Probably didn't get the nuances of sorry, oh sarahta.

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Speaker 5: Look, thank you guys for having me so much, got

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Speaker 2: Once again, we needed to have one of our favorite

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Speaker 2: my NBA fandom. We just pure, pure transparency for the

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Speaker 2: sake of transparency. We were recording this on Tuesday afternoon.

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Speaker 2: The series is currently two.

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Speaker 3: Oh. By the time you hear this, it may, uh.

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Speaker 2: Why'd he be two to one or three to zero,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely absolutely.

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Speaker 1: I mean before we get into the first two games, Sarah,

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Speaker 1: what were you like expecting heading into the finals? So,

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Speaker 4: Or were you maybe?

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Speaker 5: I mean, I certainly wasn't expecting for Christaps to be

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Speaker 5: about stuff that I wasn't expecting. I have been on

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Speaker 4: Look at you.

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Speaker 5: Guys, and I have not believed in the Celtics all year.

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Speaker 5: I expect for them to choke at some point, and

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Speaker 2: If they're like magic, they're saying the same one that

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Speaker 2: They're like, this is actually the same injury, and in

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Speaker 2: I have been of the opinion that this UH season

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Speaker 1: But I mean it's a testament to you know, the Celtics.

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Speaker 1: It's like, oh, yeah, Tatum isn't shown up. Yeah, have

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Speaker 3: I mean, Jaylen Brown's been awesome.

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Speaker 5: It makes me think about Jason TAM's contract because I

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Speaker 5: do you want to pay him forty forty five million dollars?

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Speaker 4: Right? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I mean it seems like right now with the way

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Speaker 2: And we're back, And I'm just realizing that by the

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Speaker 5: I'm to go on another apology tour.

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Speaker 6: Ye.

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Speaker 2: At the same time, though, if this was like anybody

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's not Jason is the point.

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Speaker 1: It's not Jason Tatum for sure, but yeah, Prizingis. So

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Speaker 1: there's like, okay, what's going He came back from that injury,

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Speaker 1: He suffered a torn medial retinaculum allowing dislocation of the

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Speaker 2: Well, there's a tourm medial retinaculum allowing dislocation of the

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Speaker 4: it's everything.

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Speaker 3: No, you should be fine. Should be fine, I.

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Speaker 1: Mean because right now there's we saw like even before this,

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Speaker 4: I'll die out there, like try to win this championship.

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Speaker 4: For Missoula to say that it sounds.

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Speaker 1: it sounds like Christaps clearly has the will to play.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I'm not a kinesiology major or physiologist, so I'll just

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Speaker 3: What is theology?

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Speaker 5: Is that the study of the body's movement?

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, look at that?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I wonder because I think that the Bill Walton

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Speaker 5: by like the resurgence and return of Kristaps and now

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Speaker 5: really think that it comes down to, like JT, you

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Speaker 2: Playing JT Brott step up. I do think that's I mean,

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Speaker 2: I guess he doesn't pay attention to that stuff, but

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Speaker 5: So you got to feel for him a little bit

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Speaker 5: and not for nothing to like at least Luca has

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Speaker 5: that's going to be a part of the narrative if

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Speaker 5: a travesty. Hear failure and be like, oh, that was

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Speaker 5: you've been here, you should know by now, right.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, They've built a super team around Tatum, so they

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Speaker 2: they really do need to win this one.

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Speaker 1: Like, it's okay if they don't, though it okay if

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Speaker 2: I don't think it is for their fans. I think

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Speaker 4: I'm thinking purely for me selfishly.

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Speaker 3: You're going to be a right, Okay, they don't, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: You don't need you don't need eighteen rings, man, you

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Speaker 4: So don't worry about it. Don't worry about it, huck.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, for me, I'm fine. If if the Celtics lose

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Speaker 4: But you think you think, like the if it if

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Speaker 5: Probably, Yeah, I mean there's I mean, there's been questions

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Speaker 5: It's just a lot going in for them where it's like,

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Speaker 2: It's it does feel like, all right, guys, well now

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Speaker 3: I don't know why.

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Speaker 2: We're like they're gonna be The chances are they're gonna

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, yeah by the time this conversation, because so much.

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Speaker 1: More has to Yeah, the MAVs have to do so

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Speaker 4: Mavericks to do what they need to do.

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Speaker 1: Kyrie has to come back and play like the person

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Speaker 1: look I got you in the second, but that just

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Speaker 4: So it's just real tough out here. It's real tough

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Speaker 2: I gotta say, it's like they've been stuck and second

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's uh, equal opportunity offenders. We should talk

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Speaker 2: about the Lakers coaching hunt.

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Speaker 4: Not going well.

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Speaker 5: Incredible news for yukon recruiting.

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Speaker 2: Yeah right, and was did he allow the courtship to

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Speaker 2: big mainstream news story. Then he was like, you know what,

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Speaker 2: I'm coming.

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Speaker 4: Back baby Huskies forever.

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Speaker 5: Can you imagine being like a five star high school

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Speaker 5: recruit and being like this guy just turned down seventy

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was incredible recruiting Connecticut, Yeah, yeah, great recruiting. Personally,

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Speaker 2: I think this was the best thing for both parties.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 2: We just haven't seen it work very often with college

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Speaker 2: coming up in my conversations about this, my extensive conversations

439
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Speaker 2: about this, I was advising both sides. Now, I just

440
00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:25,040
Speaker 2: you know, in talking to Miles and Jabari, like Stevens

441
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:29,400
Speaker 2: comes up. But I think when you're used to winning

442
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Speaker 2: ninety percent of your games and they're only being like

443
00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:37,119
Speaker 2: thirty something games, and then you go and you have

444
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Speaker 2: to deal with all the you know, it's just a

445
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:45,560
Speaker 2: different level of player, different level of personality that you're

446
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:50,679
Speaker 2: dealing with, and then you're also like having to lose

447
00:22:50,840 --> 00:22:55,320
Speaker 2: so much, and it's just like, I think college coaches

448
00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,639
Speaker 2: tend to be a little too tightly wound. And if

449
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:02,399
Speaker 2: they're not like built too tightly wound, they're probably like

450
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:07,200
Speaker 2: it's just like too a guitar tuned to a different frequency.

451
00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 2: That's that's correct music speak, right.

452
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Speaker 1: Yeah, let me tune my guitar to this scale frequency.

453
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Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, Like you have to be so tightly

454
00:23:18,520 --> 00:23:21,200
Speaker 2: wound that you can't let a single mistake go by,

455
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:26,160
Speaker 2: and then you go to the NBA and you're like, yeah,

456
00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 2: you just have to be good at dealing with losses

457
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Speaker 2: a lot of the way.

458
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Speaker 1: Yeah, with that Laker team, could you imagine the two

459
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Speaker 1: and eighteen start the inevitable timid eighteen right.

460
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Speaker 4: Right with them, and then he's like, what's going on

461
00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:38,159
Speaker 4: with these guys?

462
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Speaker 5: The Lakers need the other example, the Lakers need one

463
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Speaker 5: of two guys, right, Like, the Lakers need either a

464
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Speaker 5: guy who's gonna come in and be like the pat

465
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Speaker 5: Riley Eric Spolster tandem where it's like, this is my team, Lebron,

466
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Speaker 5: and you play the basketball the way that we say

467
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,480
Speaker 5: it's play the basketball. So you either need that guy

468
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Speaker 5: with that amount of authority ps. Dan Hurley does not

469
00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:05,480
Speaker 5: have that authority over Lebron, right, or you need yeah exactly,

470
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,119
Speaker 5: or you need the guy that's going to come in

471
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Speaker 5: and be like, oh, I'm gonna let Lebron coach the

472
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Speaker 5: team for most of the time.

473
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, like I actually agree with a lot

474
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Speaker 4: of stuff he says.

475
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Speaker 6: JJ Redick, JJ Reddick, because like the second that podcast start,

476
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of Lakers is like He's He's

477
00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 6: like soft launching his head coaching job right now, right

478
00:24:25,160 --> 00:24:28,560
Speaker 6: because he's like, Wow, they agree on everything and it

479
00:24:28,720 --> 00:24:30,280
Speaker 6: sounds like this could be great.

480
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Speaker 3: But I think Sam Cassel would be a good pick.

481
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Speaker 2: I think JJ would be a better pick than Dan

482
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Speaker 2: Hurley personally, that's my instinct.

483
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Speaker 1: I think it just yeah, I don't know if I

484
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Speaker 1: can handle the memes that again, that would happen to

485
00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 1: a rocky start with JJ Reddick being the head coach,

486
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Speaker 1: But again that's just emotions, not necessarily what the results

487
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Speaker 1: could be. I think I like the way he looks

488
00:24:50,920 --> 00:24:53,320
Speaker 1: at the game, like sure, but it's just like that

489
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Speaker 1: lack of pedigree in terms of getting players to buy

490
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Speaker 1: into what you need to do at least to be

491
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Speaker 1: like a somewhat effective head coach.

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Speaker 4: That's rom a little bit like I don't know where

493
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Speaker 4: you're where you're.

494
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Speaker 2: Part of my hesitation with JJ Reddick as an NBA

495
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:09,240
Speaker 2: coach is just that he there's never been an NBA

496
00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:13,520
Speaker 2: coach that looked like that, Like they're usually like I

497
00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: don't know, they're all like pop or they look like dorks,

498
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 2: like you know, like they just looks kind of they

499
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Speaker 2: don't they.

500
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Speaker 3: Don't look like they're in a boy band.

501
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Speaker 2: It was just something about him looking like he's like

502
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:30,400
Speaker 2: in a boy band that messes with my head where

503
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Speaker 2: I'm like, nah, I can't be him.

504
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:34,400
Speaker 3: Right, So I don't know.

505
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Speaker 1: Who's got the full arm sleeve on that bench. I

506
00:25:36,680 --> 00:25:38,720
Speaker 1: don't know, except for I.

507
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Speaker 5: Don't want to. I don't want to feel bad for

508
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:44,639
Speaker 5: like James Brago, right, Like I don't want James Brago

509
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 5: to get it and then him be fired in two

510
00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 5: years and you'd be like, oh, well, we didn't really

511
00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,560
Speaker 5: even see James Brigo coach. That's not fair, because that's

512
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:52,639
Speaker 5: that's how I feeled a lot of the times with

513
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Speaker 5: lebron coaches that I just feel bad for them at

514
00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 5: the end of their tenure. Yeah, and so I don't

515
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Speaker 5: think I would feel bad for JJ Reddick.

516
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,719
Speaker 2: So so you're just like rooting for whoever.

517
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't mind seeing Phil? Yeah?

518
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:10,320
Speaker 1: Well yeah, this follows the time honor tradition of following

519
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: up a great Laker coach with a potential college coach,

520
00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 1: because yes, I am comparing Darvin Ham to Phil Jackson

521
00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:20,920
Speaker 1: because after Phil left when after coach K and he wasn't.

522
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Speaker 4: Into it either, So I get it.

523
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Speaker 1: It's it's just a it feels like a it's a

524
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Speaker 1: tough it's a tough one. The expectations are so high

525
00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:32,000
Speaker 1: and you have like there's so much reactionary stuff happening around.

526
00:26:32,040 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, I don't know if you'll ever get

527
00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:35,600
Speaker 1: the fair shot to be like I just just you

528
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:38,480
Speaker 1: need time a little bit to get this thing to happen.

529
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Speaker 1: But we're sort of in the era of like we

530
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:43,600
Speaker 1: need we need instant satisfaction and gratifications.

531
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Speaker 4: It's it's a non starter.

532
00:26:46,040 --> 00:26:49,320
Speaker 2: Well we got a little pickup basketball news and then

533
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:54,520
Speaker 2: well we'll take a break. Two pickup basketball stories. One

534
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:59,400
Speaker 2: Steph Curry just out here justtroying full.

535
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 5: Lifetime.

536
00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:07,199
Speaker 3: Yeah, like you know, playing at half speed. I don't know.

537
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:11,280
Speaker 2: I do wonder like is that beneficial in any way

538
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 2: to his skills other than like just going through the

539
00:27:16,119 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 2: motions at Like it reminds me of when in the

540
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:24,240
Speaker 2: off season, you know, when the Sixers still had Ben

541
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 2: Simmons and we would see like these like half court

542
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 2: workouts where he's like hooping in like three on three

543
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 2: and like making shots, and people are like, Simmons been

544
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: in the lab. And then it's like yeah, but different,

545
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 2: not that like Steph needs any rehab or anything like that.

546
00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:47,040
Speaker 2: But it does just like how I feel like that

547
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: would mess you up, right, like playing with people who stink, Well.

548
00:27:52,440 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 4: I think you're just such a hooper too.

549
00:27:54,600 --> 00:27:57,480
Speaker 1: You're like, because apparently he was in the area for

550
00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 1: his daughter's volleyball tournament, Yeah, so that feels to me

551
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,840
Speaker 1: he's like, you know what, I got my tights, I

552
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:06,240
Speaker 1: got my shoes. You know, let me just let me

553
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,240
Speaker 1: see if there's some action over here really quick. Because

554
00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: he even hit one of these rec Center players with

555
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 1: the night night.

556
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 4: It was like, Steph, come on, man, they just leave

557
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 4: them alone.

558
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,680
Speaker 1: That's where I'm like, you know what, maybe he really

559
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,520
Speaker 1: is just like just competitive animal like that. He's like, no, man,

560
00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:26,240
Speaker 1: I hear a ball hitting park, Like my antenna goes

561
00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: up and I must be there, and you know what,

562
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: anybody could get it equal.

563
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 5: Some of those videos of like the people that were

564
00:28:32,920 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 5: guarding Steph at Lifetime, it's like they were like getting

565
00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:38,080
Speaker 5: down in the low stands. They were ready to go.

566
00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:41,040
Speaker 5: They were like, this is my moment. And I really

567
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 5: respect that because if that had been me on the

568
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 5: other side and like Steph came in, I'd be like, well,

569
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 5: I'm just not going to do anything. I'm not even

570
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 5: gonna pretend like I'm guarding this. It's not real.

571
00:28:50,160 --> 00:28:52,400
Speaker 1: Or you do it for like the thing the thrill,

572
00:28:52,560 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 1: because you always when you watch these athletes, you're like, man, honestly,

573
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Speaker 1: I would wonder what it would be like for me

574
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Speaker 1: to try and guard Steph Curry, just so I know

575
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:05,160
Speaker 1: like how ill equipped my body is for that kind

576
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: of task and just be like let me just see, like,

577
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he was right by me. Okay, all right,

578
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 1: that's what I thought.

579
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Speaker 3: I think I called the story before.

580
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 2: When I was in high school, probably at the height

581
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 2: of or near the height of like my basketball abilities.

582
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,720
Speaker 2: I was at the University of Kentucky basketball camp and

583
00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 2: Tony Delk eventually NBA fifty point scorer scored fifteen again,

584
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,719
Speaker 2: and is usually the example people point to is like

585
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 2: do you believe that guy scored fifteen?

586
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 4: Anyone can do it?

587
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 2: But he was there, and you know, he was dribbling,

588
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: and you know, just I was like messing around, and

589
00:29:43,520 --> 00:29:44,160
Speaker 2: then I was like, all.

590
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Speaker 3: Right, man, I'm going to try and like take the

591
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,080
Speaker 3: ball from him.

592
00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:49,960
Speaker 2: And it was like watching a close up magic act,

593
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 2: like it was he just what he was doing with

594
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:56,880
Speaker 2: the ball, just like putting it behind my ear, taking

595
00:29:56,920 --> 00:29:59,440
Speaker 2: it like behind my back, like putting it behind his back,

596
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:00,600
Speaker 2: behind my back.

597
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,720
Speaker 4: A bouquet of flowers.

598
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 2: He was like, all right, your turn, and I would

599
00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 2: dribble and he would take it away from me so easily,

600
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: just literally.

601
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

602
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,240
Speaker 4: Give me that, Like I think you should exactly give

603
00:30:17,280 --> 00:30:17,640
Speaker 4: me that.

604
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: So I can't Yeah, I can't imagine, because you there

605
00:30:21,560 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: is also the genre of video where it's like, you know,

606
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Speaker 2: I think one happened this summer with your boy from

607
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:35,640
Speaker 2: the Heat, Tyler Herro. His name should be Kyle, your

608
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:41,959
Speaker 2: boy from the Heat, your friend, your favorite player getting

609
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 2: cooked at a basketball camp. And I'm sure like every

610
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,880
Speaker 2: one of those players on that court with him, I

611
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 2: had seen that video and is probably extra annoying. So

612
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:55,640
Speaker 2: that's probably a piece of context that we're lacking, is

613
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 2: like what There's definitely at least one player on the

614
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 2: other team who was talking cash garbage to him, you know,

615
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: the whole game, so you know, him doing a nice

616
00:31:06,120 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 2: little betty by time is probably warranted.

617
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,160
Speaker 5: Can you imagine if Steph pulled up to your like

618
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,959
Speaker 5: local pickup game and then he got like he's on

619
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,920
Speaker 5: the other team.

620
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you're like, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, Like

621
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: it's skins Verse shirts.

622
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,200
Speaker 4: I'll just tear my shirt off. I'm like, man, I

623
00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 4: don't know what you talk about.

624
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:29,560
Speaker 3: My shirt just broke on his team a.

625
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 4: Pikachu chest tattoo.

626
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:34,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I don't worry about it, man, Just don't

627
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:35,200
Speaker 1: let me get active in here.

628
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 2: And then there was also just a great clip of

629
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 2: uh coach Popovich cooking people out in La Fitness. Now

630
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 2: some say it wasn't coach Popovich, but uh yeah it wasn't.

631
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,920
Speaker 2: But he looked a lot like him and just had

632
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: the finest old man go yeah, uh fine bouquet on

633
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,880
Speaker 2: the on this uh finally aged wine of a game.

634
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 5: I fully believe that kind of stuff happened. Like I

635
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 5: think it was maybe like twenty thirteen, twenty four, twenty fourteen, fifteen,

636
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,920
Speaker 5: something like that. I watched Jerry West, who even at

637
00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:19,280
Speaker 5: that point was old and he was there was like

638
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 5: I think Steph Curry was having a camp. He was

639
00:32:21,320 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 5: in Golden State. There's a bunch of kids around, and

640
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 5: as he's talking and explaining how to shoot the perfect

641
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:30,160
Speaker 5: free throw, he's just standing at the free throw line

642
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:32,880
Speaker 5: and one handing free throws in just over and over again,

643
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:34,480
Speaker 5: like as he's explaining.

644
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 3: It, not even looking at the rim.

645
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, not even looking making making twenty in a row,

646
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 5: just looking at the kids, like this is how you

647
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 5: do it? And I was watching it. I was like,

648
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 5: these seven year olds do not understand the beauty.

649
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,040
Speaker 3: Of what is that you have magic powers?

650
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:51,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, They're like, how is camp?

651
00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: You're like this old guy kept shooting free throws and

652
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,320
Speaker 1: talking to us and it was it was boring.

653
00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,000
Speaker 4: You're like, dude knows Jerry are right. Sure.

654
00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: There's a scene in Blue Chips where Bob Coozy and

655
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:05,959
Speaker 2: I think Nulty are having a conversation. I think Kozy

656
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 2: plays the athletic director, and he's just banging free throw

657
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Speaker 2: after free throw like as they're having the conversation, like

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Speaker 2: casually and like barely moving, like it doesn't even look

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Speaker 2: like he's trying or like moving his body. And Nalty's like,

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Speaker 2: you ever gonna miss You're ever gonna miss one of these.

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Speaker 3: Bob, And that was like real like he was during

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Speaker 3: the course.

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Speaker 1: It was like yeah, you know, because that wasn't They're

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Speaker 1: like he just literally wouldn't miss.

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Speaker 2: During Yeah, he was shot like he couldn't. We asked

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Speaker 2: him to try to miss and he was like, I

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you mean. Yeah, sorry, I know

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Speaker 2: I missed one like back in the fifties once, but this,

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Speaker 2: yeah I can't, I can't.

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Speaker 3: Did you ever do you know?

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Speaker 1: Do you do you remember they made like Skybox made

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Speaker 1: blue Chips trading cards when the movie came out.

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Speaker 4: Did you ever have a pack of those?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: His just called vic Roker because I remember having that

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Speaker 4: and being like.

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Speaker 1: What I got this like old dude with Yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: I want I want Boudreau, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: But no, yeah, yeah, they had like a whole thing,

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Speaker 1: like there were all these cards.

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Speaker 4: I don't think they're worth much anymore.

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Speaker 5: Of the podcast is only for the olds.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, Skybox trading cards. You remember Beckett Magazine.

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Speaker 3: The blue Chip, like the blue Light special.

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Speaker 1: It's only for the old blue plate, blue.

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Speaker 3: Plate, blue light, blue hair. You know. It works for us.

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Speaker 3: No March, no March. Should we take a quick break

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Speaker 3: and come back and do the rapid fire round?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, we'll be right back and we're back

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Speaker 2: stepped in at this time all my Todd, Yeah, bro.

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Speaker 4: There we go. T you have you have wandered into the.

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Speaker 1: Rapid fire round of questions the hast the question answered

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Speaker 1: segment of all the sportsbackcasting history, Jack or I will

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Speaker 1: ask you a question you will not think.

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Speaker 4: You will just react.

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Speaker 1: To give us your quickest, most concise answer, and if

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Speaker 1: you slow the pace down of this segment, we will

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Speaker 1: be rude.

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Speaker 3: I usual even exactly, Yeah, the.

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Speaker 5: Iron I'm so scared. I know that you can can't

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Speaker 5: tell from a smile, but I'm really.

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Speaker 4: I was just joking though. We won't be rude. Are

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Speaker 4: you going to be scared?

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Speaker 3: Are you mad at me? Do you think I'm going

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Speaker 3: to be rude?

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Speaker 4: Oh?

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Speaker 1: My god, she hates us, Jack, she hates us, hates us.

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Speaker 3: I knew we shouldn't have gone that hard mile.

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Speaker 4: Yep, nope, you're right. Okay are you ready?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 4: Okay, good sir, Brian star Clock. This is gonna be

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Speaker 4: really fast. Okay, so check do you want to go?

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Speaker 3: Should I go first? Why don't you go first?

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Speaker 2: You?

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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, that's cool.

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Speaker 5: Because I.

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Speaker 4: Guess I go first.

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Speaker 5: Okay, is this the fast part?

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 5: It is.

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Speaker 4: Okay. You can't be rude to us now. I can't

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Speaker 4: handle that. I cannot hand I condition it out, but

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Speaker 4: I cannot take it. I'm a classic school yard bully.

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Speaker 1: Look Sarah Cott, you can go back in time to

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Speaker 1: personally win any NBA Finals matchup from history. However many

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Speaker 1: games the series went, you got court side tickets.

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Speaker 4: To every single one of them. Which NBA Finals matchup?

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Speaker 1: Are you choosing and hopping in your doloreon to go

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Speaker 1: see with your court side seats?

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Speaker 5: I'm going to Larry Bird's first championship. That's crazy because

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Speaker 5: I started this thing out being like, yeah, Boston doesn't

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Speaker 5: need any more titles. I don't care if they lose.

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Speaker 5: I love Larry Bird. I would love to watch him win,

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Speaker 5: and uh, the idea of how much it pissed off

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Speaker 5: the Lakers, I would love.

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Speaker 2: Wow, Myles, that's your same answer too, I think right that.

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Speaker 1: Was yeah, Yeah, that's I would say that too if

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Speaker 1: I had If I if I had time travel capability,

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Speaker 1: I would definitely use it to do that.

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Speaker 4: That's what I would do with tears in my eyes

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Speaker 4: because I'm so happy about.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, Myles is stone faced, but they're just

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Speaker 2: tears pouring down his face.

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Speaker 4: Told this courage water.

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Speaker 1: This is courage water coming out my eyes because I

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Speaker 1: have so much courage my body doesn't know what to do.

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Speaker 2: Sarah, we all agree, we want the Celtics to lose.

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Speaker 2: We don't want, we don't want another Celtics Finals. We've

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Speaker 2: just given you the magical power to recast this finals

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Speaker 2: with a different Western Conference Finals team. Which team are

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Speaker 2: you picking to defeat the Boston Celtics.

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Speaker 5: I'm giving it to the Denver Nuggets.

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Speaker 3: Ye.

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Speaker 5: God, why didn't they win their Game seven? I know

756
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Speaker 5: either in today's age, I just love watching yoga to

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Speaker 5: play basketball. It is so much fun. And if for

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Speaker 5: no other reason than just to get his comments after

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Speaker 5: like winning the finals again and being like, well job done.

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Speaker 4: God, yeah, wait there's parade. Yeah that's my favorite.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, his face, the amount of disappointment when he

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Speaker 5: was like, whin's the parade and they're like it's Thursday

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Speaker 5: and he's like no, no, no, no, it can't be true.

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Speaker 3: Different.

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Speaker 2: Is there another Western Conference team that you feel like

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Speaker 2: would have actually given given the Celtics a better game

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Speaker 2: than Dallas?

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Speaker 3: Because I feel like I got another one.

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Speaker 5: I mean, what's yours? Go ahead?

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Speaker 3: Lakers?

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Speaker 4: No, No, I'm not even feeling that. Broka. I don't

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Speaker 4: think I could handle it.

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Speaker 3: The Los Angeles Lakers, all right.

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Speaker 5: I have a lot of fondness. I have a lot

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Speaker 5: of fondness for Mike Conley, and so I was really

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Speaker 5: hoping for good things for him because it's just not

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Speaker 5: a more deserving person in the NBA. But you could

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Speaker 5: put him on any team and I'd root for Mike Conley.

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Speaker 1: So, Sarah, what is one moment or game from NBA

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Speaker 1: history you wish Twitter had been around for.

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Speaker 2: All?

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Speaker 5: The Willis Reid moment would have been hilarious. Yeah, probably

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Speaker 5: a lot of really good memes for that one, right,

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00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 5: Jordan pushing off? Oh my god, Oh that would have

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Speaker 5: been yeah, Twitter nuts.

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Speaker 1: Oh the amount of like, yeah, I could already see

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Speaker 1: just the whatever movie scenes people are going to intercut

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Speaker 1: with that.

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Speaker 4: That that last shot, it was gonna reach a tragedy.

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Speaker 2: Now see, outside of Utah, that is known as the shot,

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Speaker 2: but inside of Utah that's known as the push off.

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Speaker 5: One of the things when I first moved to Utah

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Speaker 5: and started covering the Jazz, I had told people like,

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Speaker 5: I just don't think I can ever admit that Jordan

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Speaker 5: didn't push off. I think I just have to keep

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Speaker 5: that to my since then I've just become public and

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Speaker 5: I mean number one and admitted that Jordan didn't push off.

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Speaker 2: So it's fine now, But okay, Yeah, the Flu game

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Speaker 2: is known as the Blue game? What's that known as

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Speaker 2: in Utah? The perfectly fine Pepperoni Pizza game, The drama

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Speaker 2: Queen game.

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Speaker 5: That would have been so good on Twitter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see, like, yeah, just making fun of

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Speaker 1: Brian Wilson, like years later, he's getting that tatted on

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Speaker 1: his body like memento.

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Speaker 4: He's like, Michael Jordan pushed off of you that game.

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Speaker 2: Like exactly exactly Brian Wilson for the Beach Boys, I

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Speaker 2: mean Brian Russell like me too.

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Speaker 5: I was like, why are the Beach Boys in this?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Oh you don't know you're also on Twitter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah yeah, those are called good vibrations, by the way, those.

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Speaker 3: Are yea, all good vibes.

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Speaker 2: We've seen teams like Memphis, ok SE and Orlando each

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Speaker 2: take that next step over the last few years. What

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Speaker 2: is a team or two you think you expect to

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Speaker 2: take a leap next season?

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Speaker 5: It's probably like a cop out. But the Spurs, like

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Speaker 5: just the Victor Wimben Yama ascendants into playoff basketball is

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Speaker 5: what I expect and then for the rest of the

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Speaker 5: West to absolutely lose their minds over that. Yeah, that

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Speaker 5: would be very fun. I would I mean, I'd like

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Speaker 5: to see Orlando take another leap right like, that's a

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Speaker 5: that's a really fun team. I worry because I've never

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Speaker 5: seen them do anything good since since white Heart and Reddick. Yeah,

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Speaker 5: like I've never I've never seen it, So I worry

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Speaker 5: that they just might not do it. But that would

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Speaker 5: be a very fun team to do it.

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Speaker 4: Well.

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Speaker 2: The Spurs in Orlando are the correct answers you have

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Speaker 2: once again one rapid the rapid fire question. The only

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Speaker 2: person that went returning champion. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 2: joining us. Where can we find you? Follow you all

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Speaker 2: that good stuff.

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Speaker 5: You can find me on all the socials at NBA Sarah.

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Speaker 5: You can read my stuff at Deseret dot com. That's

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Speaker 5: d E. S E R E T. Lots of Ease,

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Speaker 5: And you can listen to my pod Unsalvageable so Utah

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Speaker 5: Jazz Podcast, And we also take listener questions about advice,

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Speaker 5: life book wrecks. It's the off season, you guys.

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Speaker 4: So yeah, no, I get it.

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Speaker 1: No, we're about to enter that too, and we're here

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Speaker 1: you talking about our favorite shoelaces of all time?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Man, yeah, do you remember those? Remember eighty eight

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Speaker 4: or the Little Ladies First Game.

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Speaker 5: Recently we had a conversation about how the playoff commercials

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Speaker 5: timeout commercials are ruining our lives because now I am

848
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,359
Speaker 5: just like singing the Pepto Bismol theme song. Yeah, and

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00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:10,600
Speaker 5: I've got the old NBC theme basketball slash snl skit

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00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 5: stuck in my head because Kevin Hard is dancing to it,

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Speaker 5: so I just sang b B bu busball.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, got to man, give.

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Speaker 2: Me the ball because I'm gonna don't get Yeah, I

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Speaker 2: am amazing. Well, you can find me on Twitter at

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Speaker 2: Jack Underscore Obrian, how about you, Miles oh Me?

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00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 1: You can find me at Miles of Gray there on Twitter,

857
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 1: and you can also follow us at the hashtag mad

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Speaker 1: Boosty's BA sd I e s for show links and updates,

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00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: and you can also find out about how to join

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Speaker 1: the Discord, where you will occasionally pop in and say, hey,

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Speaker 1: we got a last minute, very special guests.

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Speaker 4: Any questions you think we should ask them?

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Speaker 1: Uh? And you will soon find out if you saw

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Speaker 1: the discord, we have a very special one coming up.

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Speaker 4: But yeah, we encourage you to check that out as always.

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Speaker 4: Thanks so much for listening. Uh And by the.

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Speaker 3: Next time we talked to you, there, yeah, might be

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Speaker 3: a new champ.

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Speaker 4: I think there might be a champ.

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Speaker 3: And we'll see, We'll think almost definitely there will be

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Speaker 3: a new I think.

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Speaker 4: So.

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Speaker 5: Can I say again you guys have gotten mad boosties.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, thank you so much.

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Speaker 2: And I have been just jumping like a pogo stick

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Speaker 2: this entire time, in no way of begging for that compliment,

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Speaker 2: but you've just.

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Speaker 4: Been spamming the chat windows like mad Lucy. Just copy

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Speaker 4: past over and over and over and over again. All right, y'all,

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Speaker 4: we'll see you next week.

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Speaker 1: Take care, Bye bye,