WEBVTT - Raheem Kassam Invades 'The Freedom Hut'

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission mission

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<v Speaker 1>is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make

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<v Speaker 1>no mistake, American, You're a great American. Again the Buck

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton Show begins. Now, Welcome to the Bucks Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably already guessed. I am not Buck Sexton. My

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<v Speaker 1>name is Rahem Kasam. I am filling in for Buck today,

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<v Speaker 1>broadcasting live out of the Freedom Hut here in Washington,

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<v Speaker 1>d C. A slushy, slimy, gross and rainy Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>A very good evening or good afternoon to all of

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<v Speaker 1>you out there. We have a very great show for

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<v Speaker 1>you today. Breaches on the border just just a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of days after CNN's Jim Acosta, remember was lecturing the

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<v Speaker 1>President of the United States in a press conference, saying

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<v Speaker 1>they're not jumping over the borders, they're thousands of miles away. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>border security has nabbed six hundred and fifty migrants just

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<v Speaker 1>two hours outside. We've seen video of people jumping over

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<v Speaker 1>fences and being apprehended by border security. We've got a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of things to discuss today. It's been a busy

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<v Speaker 1>day all around the world, and I'm glad to say

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<v Speaker 1>we have some of the best experts from around the

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<v Speaker 1>world to talk about the new the very busy news

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<v Speaker 1>cycle of the day. One of the things that I've

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<v Speaker 1>been focusing on has been Brexit. Of course, for those

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<v Speaker 1>of you that don't know me, I was the former

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<v Speaker 1>senior adviser to Mr Brexit himself, Nigel Farage. And because

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<v Speaker 1>it's very late in the evening in in the United

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<v Speaker 1>Kingdom and so much has been going on there, we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to start the show on that. I know breaks.

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<v Speaker 1>It means a lot to a lot of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>out there here in the United States as well. I

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<v Speaker 1>know you all know what happened on that June two

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<v Speaker 1>thousand and sixteen, just a few months before you elected

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump as the outsider candidate, we did something quite

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<v Speaker 1>outlandish too, which was voting to leave. Seventeen and a

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<v Speaker 1>half million people, the largest ever showing for one side

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<v Speaker 1>in a national election, voted to leave the European Union.

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<v Speaker 1>We said, we've had enough of the bureaucrats, of the commissioners,

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<v Speaker 1>of the lack of democracy. We've had enough of paying

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<v Speaker 1>billions upon billions of our finest English pounds into the

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<v Speaker 1>coffers of an organization that wants its own military force.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that tells us what of our primary legislation and

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<v Speaker 1>our regulations look like. Does it sound familiar to you,

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, Does in it sound just like what

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<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton was talking about a few years ago when

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<v Speaker 1>she called the Trans Pacific Partnership Deal and the Transatlantic

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<v Speaker 1>Trade and Investment Partnership Deal, replete with its commissioners and

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<v Speaker 1>unaccountable civil servants. She called it the gold standard of

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<v Speaker 1>trade deals. Well, i'll tell you what, Thank goodness, President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump won, because you'd be entering your own sort of

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<v Speaker 1>European Union style trade organization right now, just at the

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<v Speaker 1>moment that we're trying to get out. But what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK today was quite extraordinary, one of the

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<v Speaker 1>most critical things to happen since that June three vote.

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<v Speaker 1>The Prime Minister a remainder somebody who wanted us to

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<v Speaker 1>stay in the European Union. She announced the deal that

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<v Speaker 1>she had done with the EU today and it is

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<v Speaker 1>no such thing like leaving. Let me tell you, the

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<v Speaker 1>United Kingdom would remain under the European Court of Justice.

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<v Speaker 1>Per view, we'd end up paying forty billion pounds into

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<v Speaker 1>their pot. Again, we'd have no control over our borders,

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<v Speaker 1>we'd have no control over our trade deals. That that

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<v Speaker 1>thing that President Trump said, Remember he said after Obama

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<v Speaker 1>said Britain will go to the back of the queue

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<v Speaker 1>for a trade deal, he said, no, Britain will go

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<v Speaker 1>to the front of the queue for a trade deal.

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<v Speaker 1>The front of the line for a trade deal. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's off the table. Under this deal proposed by Theresa May,

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<v Speaker 1>the Prime Minister, that would no longer happen because we'd

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<v Speaker 1>still be within the confines of the euse laws of

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<v Speaker 1>the e use trade agreements. And it's unacceptable. It's so

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<v Speaker 1>unacceptable that today you had five cabinet ministers resigned in

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<v Speaker 1>one day. Can you imagine if five cabinet ministers resigned

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<v Speaker 1>from President Trump's cabinet in one day. I mean, jimber

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<v Speaker 1>Costa would be running around White House, or rather outside

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<v Speaker 1>the White House, running around like a headless chicken, saying

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<v Speaker 1>this president must go, This president no longer has the

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<v Speaker 1>confidence of his own government, his own administration. Well, in

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<v Speaker 1>a sense that's true of Theresa May, but she indicated

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<v Speaker 1>this afternoon that she has no intention to go. Instead,

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<v Speaker 1>she intends to continue on with this horrific deal that

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<v Speaker 1>she struck with the European Union. I want to check

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<v Speaker 1>if we've got our first guest on the line. We're

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for a good a good friend of mine. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be joining us, hopefully in the next few minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>His name is Ben Harris Quinney. He's the chairman of

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<v Speaker 1>the oldest conservative think tank in the United Kingdom, and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just finished speaking at Oxford University, where he had

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<v Speaker 1>taken over a slot for Graham Brady. Now let me

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<v Speaker 1>tell you about Graham Brady. And I understand this sounds

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<v Speaker 1>like sort of insular foreign politics to you guys, but

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<v Speaker 1>we share the same thing right now in our sort

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<v Speaker 1>of rebellious ah takeovers of the establishment, the drainings of

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<v Speaker 1>the swamps across the Atlantic. I'll tell you why this guy,

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<v Speaker 1>Graham Brady is important. He's a member of Parliament. And

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<v Speaker 1>if the Conservative Party, which is the party of government

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<v Speaker 1>in the UK, if they want to lose Theresa May

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<v Speaker 1>as Prime Minister, which I suggest they should, then Graham

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<v Speaker 1>Brady is the one they have to write to. He's

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<v Speaker 1>the head of the two Committee. And if he gets

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight letters, let's say we want her gone from

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<v Speaker 1>forty eight Conservative members of Parliament, then there has to

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<v Speaker 1>be a vote of no confidence as the Prime Minister,

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<v Speaker 1>and the rumor is that they're awfully close to getting there.

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<v Speaker 1>So you know, the UK on tenter hooks at the moment,

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<v Speaker 1>not really knowing where it's going. The markets obviously responding

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<v Speaker 1>in kind, uh, the pound dropping, stocks dropping, and all

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<v Speaker 1>because our rubbish, rubbish prime minister, who shouldn't have even

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<v Speaker 1>been there in the first place, because Exit one and

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<v Speaker 1>the Conservative Party put a remainder, a non lever into

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<v Speaker 1>number ten Downing Street. This is all on her. So there,

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<v Speaker 1>there we have it. We're waiting for our first guest,

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<v Speaker 1>but in the meantime we'll also be will also be

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<v Speaker 1>taking some of your calls over the course of this program. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to make sure that you guys are getting

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<v Speaker 1>your views across on all sorts of things that we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to be discussing. Today. We're going to be speaking

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<v Speaker 1>with Eric Metaxes, the author of a brand new book,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Drains the Swamp. He'll be joining us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later in this hour. Jessica Vaughan from the Center

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<v Speaker 1>of Immigration Studies were joining us to talk about this

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<v Speaker 1>migrant caravan that we were told it was not a thing,

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<v Speaker 1>was not going to happen, that they that they were

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<v Speaker 1>not in fact, in fact, why don't we can we

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<v Speaker 1>can we play that clip of Jim Acosta from a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of days ago, clip number three campaign had But

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<v Speaker 1>your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls

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<v Speaker 1>and so on. But they weren't actor not going to

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<v Speaker 1>be doing they weren't actors. Well, no, it's true. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you think they were actors. They weren't actives, They didn't

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<v Speaker 1>come from Hollywood, but these were these were people. This

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<v Speaker 1>was an actual you know, it happened a few days ago,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're hundreds of miles away. Though they're hundreds and

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<v Speaker 1>hundreds of miles not animation. Honestly, I think you should

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<v Speaker 1>let me run the country. It's not gonna happen. They're

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<v Speaker 1>not going to be doing that. The words of CNN

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Acosta, who I suppose presumed he had some sort

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<v Speaker 1>of premonition. Did it come to him in a dream,

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<v Speaker 1>The migrants were not going to be climbing over the border.

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<v Speaker 1>We've seen it going on. We saw the footage come

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<v Speaker 1>out yesterday. Oh and don't think I don't think just

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<v Speaker 1>because we're focused on the news cycle of the moment

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<v Speaker 1>that we're going to forget about what came out last night, right,

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<v Speaker 1>did you will pay attention? We all looking at your

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<v Speaker 1>cellular devices when the breaking news came out that Michael Abanati,

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<v Speaker 1>the creepy pawn lawyer, was arrested by the l a

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<v Speaker 1>p D after the allegation that he had beat or

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<v Speaker 1>punched his wife, Michael Abanati. And the reason I segue

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<v Speaker 1>into Michael Abanati is because you have Jim Acosta of CNN,

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<v Speaker 1>who's lecturing the President last week, putting his hands on

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<v Speaker 1>a White House intern. Now you can argue one way

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<v Speaker 1>or the other that you know he wasn't aggressive with it,

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<v Speaker 1>or it wasn't affirm enough gesture for you, or whatever

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<v Speaker 1>the excuses that they're coming up with, but he put

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<v Speaker 1>his hand on a young female intern in the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>And on the flip side, I mean, who's who's CNN's

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<v Speaker 1>favorite get right now, Who's CNN been pumping up for

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<v Speaker 1>the last few months every night every show. Michael L. Abanati,

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<v Speaker 1>the expert in sexual harassment. He had claims about Brett Kavanagh,

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<v Speaker 1>he had claims about Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Michael Abanati himself

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<v Speaker 1>a man who just a few weeks ago took to

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<v Speaker 1>Twitter to body shame of conservative female journalist Laura Looma,

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<v Speaker 1>tweeting a picture of her that I guess he thought

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<v Speaker 1>was less than flattering. This is the guy who CNN

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<v Speaker 1>is held up and he was arrested last night, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to find out he he maintains that he's innocent.

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<v Speaker 1>There is a There is a hole to do about that,

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<v Speaker 1>lots to think about there. It just strikes me that

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<v Speaker 1>there is so much in the way of I guess

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<v Speaker 1>what the psychoanalysts call projection from the left right every

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<v Speaker 1>time they point the fingers about something. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>watching CNN today and they were laughing. They were laughing

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<v Speaker 1>because Matt gatesdown in Florida said that the voter fraud

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<v Speaker 1>that he believes maybe taking place down there is a

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<v Speaker 1>sort of dress rehearsal, a warm up act for the

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<v Speaker 1>election cycle. And the CNN anchors and the guests slapping

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<v Speaker 1>each other on the backs and laughing they a conspiracy theory.

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<v Speaker 1>Remember that he's a The guys who for the last

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<v Speaker 1>two years plus have been saying, yeah, these Russian like

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<v Speaker 1>Facebook bots, they colluded with the Trump Tower folks, and

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<v Speaker 1>they forced Americans to the ballot box with a I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know collashnik after the head and forced them to

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<v Speaker 1>vote for Donald Trump for president. About evidence, there's been

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<v Speaker 1>no collusion evidence, there's been nothing. This investigation that's gone

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<v Speaker 1>on for what two years and cost I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>forty million dollars. I think I saw the Mueller probe,

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<v Speaker 1>which Trump took to Twitter again to lambast today. But

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<v Speaker 1>these guys will laugh at Matt Gates for saying, hold

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<v Speaker 1>on a second. How come Broward County and Palm Beach

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<v Speaker 1>County take a week plus to count their votes? How

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<v Speaker 1>come we're going to hand recounts? Now? This is the

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that doesn't even happen in third world countries, in

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<v Speaker 1>in in in places where you still dip your finger

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<v Speaker 1>in ink to vote. There are places around the world

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<v Speaker 1>that haven't had the democratic process for very long, and

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff doesn't happen there. But it happens in democratic

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<v Speaker 1>controlled districts. Really quite a lot, doesn't it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be talking to Eric Eager's he's the author of a

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<v Speaker 1>new book called Fraud. They'll be joining us a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit later as well, I'm pleased to say that will

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<v Speaker 1>also be joined by two of One American News, one

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<v Speaker 1>of the better cable news channels out there, two of

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<v Speaker 1>their folks. Later on in the show, Charles Herring is

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<v Speaker 1>the president of the organization. We're gonna talk to him

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<v Speaker 1>about how One America is the only news outlet at

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<v Speaker 1>the moment that is in opposition to CNN in its

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<v Speaker 1>case against the White House, the Jim Acosta is hard

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<v Speaker 1>pass being revoked and Jim Acosta being banned. Even Fox News,

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<v Speaker 1>which I like. I have friends who have Fox News

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<v Speaker 1>hosts and anchors, lots of them in fact, but even

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<v Speaker 1>Fox News I think, are taking Jim Acosta side and

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<v Speaker 1>all of this. And we'll also talk to Gabrielle Ccilla.

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<v Speaker 1>She's been down in Florida for O a n and

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<v Speaker 1>she's going to tell us what what she's seen over

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<v Speaker 1>the last couple of the last couple of well the

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<v Speaker 1>last week there. In the meantime, this is Raheem Kassam

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<v Speaker 1>on The Buck Sexton Show broadcasting Life from the Freedom Hut.

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<v Speaker 1>I think we're gonna take a quick break now and

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully when we come back, we'll have Ben Harris Quinny

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<v Speaker 1>who is uh the chairman of the Bow Group, the

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<v Speaker 1>UK's oldest conservative thing tanket tell us a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>more about what's going with that with that Breakxit vote,

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<v Speaker 1>But stay tuned right here to the Buck Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 1>Will be right back in the midst of all the

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<v Speaker 1>whining coming from the left. I mean, it's just crazy

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<v Speaker 1>of maniacs. You have to wonder why in the world

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<v Speaker 1>com slash buck. This is an individual that lies on

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<v Speaker 1>a consistent basis. If it was up to me, which

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<v Speaker 1>is not, I would indict the president. I'm gonna put

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump on trial. I think the President will not

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<v Speaker 1>serve out his term. Are you trying to win a

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<v Speaker 1>case or takedown a president? This is a search for

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<v Speaker 1>the truth. This president has had his eye off the

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<v Speaker 1>ball now, basically from day one. I don't think the

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<v Speaker 1>President wants to sit across the conference room table from

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<v Speaker 1>me and answer questions under earth. But if he does,

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<v Speaker 1>perhaps we can do it this afternoon. You are something

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<v Speaker 1>of a folk hero. Now we wait until we actually

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<v Speaker 1>accomplished something in the coming months. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahim

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm fulling in for Buck Sexton. This cold, icy, slushy,

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<v Speaker 1>snowy Thursday evening here in Washington, d C. That was

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<v Speaker 1>I suppose the Michael Abanati super cut A folk hero,

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<v Speaker 1>said Bill Maher. That was Bill Maher's voice. I think

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<v Speaker 1>a folk hero. Michael Labanati, the attorney the porn star

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<v Speaker 1>Stormy Daniels, and, as NBC News describes him, one of

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<v Speaker 1>President Donald Trump's chief antagonists, arrested on suspicion of felony

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<v Speaker 1>domestic abuse. The l A p D. I believe confirmed

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<v Speaker 1>in a tweet yesterday evening. This is the person who's

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<v Speaker 1>been held up for us, for to us for a

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<v Speaker 1>very long time. Now, Remember Michael Labanati was beyond reproach.

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<v Speaker 1>He said, which women we had to believe? So we

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<v Speaker 1>had to believe those women. Well, you know what I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that I am going to start believing all women.

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<v Speaker 1>Now I'm going to start with Michael Abanati's wife. That's

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<v Speaker 1>where we should start. Now, let's let's give him the

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<v Speaker 1>benefit of that. Let's give his argument the benefit of

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<v Speaker 1>the doubt. Right now, our side, my side, I'm a conservative.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe in due process. Michael Lavanati doesn't believe in

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<v Speaker 1>due process. He's made it very clear the Brett Havana

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't have been in the Supreme Court because they were

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<v Speaker 1>unfounded accusations and allegations against him, no due process, very

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<v Speaker 1>little evidence. I don't think there was even any evidence

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<v Speaker 1>barring the cure curious testimony of a childlike professor. But

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<v Speaker 1>now suddenly suddenly Avanatis saying no, no, no, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll wait for this process to you know, play out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'll prove my innocence. No no, no, no no. You

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<v Speaker 1>didn't want due process. You don't get due process. Remember,

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<v Speaker 1>Michael Evnati is somebody who, for the last few weeks,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe a little bit longer, has not just been flirting

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<v Speaker 1>with running for president against Donald Trump in he's been

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<v Speaker 1>outright making out with it and groping it on the

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<v Speaker 1>dance floor. This is not a mild flirtation with his

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<v Speaker 1>wish to be the president of the United States. He

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<v Speaker 1>has gone full pelt, telling people on whether I think

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<v Speaker 1>it was TMZ a politic on this big political conference

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<v Speaker 1>out in California, telling them that that's what he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to do. And well, I have to say, to the

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<v Speaker 1>credit of the Democrats, they haven't really um warm to

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<v Speaker 1>him in that regard. Um A lot of people out

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<v Speaker 1>there were saying, yeah, you know, have nat He's got

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<v Speaker 1>a good chance of an as he can fundraise, have

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<v Speaker 1>an artie can beat them in the forty six person

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<v Speaker 1>primary that they're probably gonna have next year. Well, well,

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<v Speaker 1>look what's happening now. Arrested Wednesday on suspicion of domestic violence.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see how it plays out, lady and gentlemen,

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<v Speaker 1>And we do believe in due process. But isn't it funny?

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<v Speaker 1>The projection from the left continues. This is the buck

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheem Kassam

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<v Speaker 1>filling in for Buck Sexton. Hearing a grotesque Washington, d C.

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<v Speaker 1>And more more grotesque than usual, is what I mean?

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<v Speaker 1>Heavy snow, say heavy, a lot of snow overnight. I'm upsetting.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm English. I'm obsessed with the weather. You're gonna have

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<v Speaker 1>to forgive me. I used to do this all the

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<v Speaker 1>time when I hosted another another radio show. Just ended

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<v Speaker 1>up talking about the weather for the first games. It's

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<v Speaker 1>in our blood for some reason. When English but starts talking,

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<v Speaker 1>it's one of the first things he does. It starts

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the weather. The lines here are open, by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, Ladies and gentlemen, it's eight four four nine

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<v Speaker 1>hundred buck. That's eight four four, nine hundred to eight

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<v Speaker 1>to five. I want to hear from as many of

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<v Speaker 1>you out there as possible today, if you've got to

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<v Speaker 1>take on the things we've already discussed in this hour.

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<v Speaker 1>It's obviously Michael Labanati. We've touched on the migrant caravans

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim Acosta. We've been talking a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>Brexit and what happened in the United Kingdom today, but

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<v Speaker 1>there's massive resignations from Theresa May's cabinet right now. I

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<v Speaker 1>want to welcome a special guest. Erica Taxes is New

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<v Speaker 1>York Times best selling author radio host himself, in fact

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<v Speaker 1>interviewed me on The Eric My Taxes Show last year,

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<v Speaker 1>and now the show's on the other foot. Eric, Welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the show. Yes I did, and thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>having me. I I'd like to talk about something very happy,

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<v Speaker 1>because all those other things there's a fan an undercurrent

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<v Speaker 1>of unpleasantness to some of the news, as you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and uh. The reason of course I'm on the

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<v Speaker 1>program is to talk about my happy new children's book,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Drains the Swamp, Donald Drains the Swamp. May refer

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<v Speaker 1>to a certain Donald, and the swamp certainly refers to

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<v Speaker 1>the horrible DC swamp to which you were earlier referring.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's a happy book because Donald in fact does

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<v Speaker 1>train the swamp. And it's uh, it's mainly for kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but actually I can't even say that mostly adults are

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<v Speaker 1>buying it because there's a lot of adult humor in it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a children's book, but there's enough humor for adults

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<v Speaker 1>that they're finding it worth getting. Yeah, you don't mean

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<v Speaker 1>adult humor is in that it's not suitable for kids,

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<v Speaker 1>but you mean that it's it's sort of like one

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<v Speaker 1>of those animations right where where you know it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>good for both audiences. I've got I've got my copy

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<v Speaker 1>at home. When I when I say a humor, what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean is that when you see the biggest swamp

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<v Speaker 1>creature of all is a dinosaur called the george osauros.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's not the kind of thing that little kids

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna get. They're just gonna see a big, nasty

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<v Speaker 1>swamp creature called the Georgia saurus. But of course we

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<v Speaker 1>understand that it's a hungarian dinosaur has billions of dollars

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<v Speaker 1>and worships the devil. Other than that, it's perfectly right

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<v Speaker 1>for kids. No, but it's kind of a funny thing

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<v Speaker 1>because there's a lot of that stuff the swamp creatures resemble.

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<v Speaker 1>One of them has half classes and cries a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's a senator from New York type dinosaur. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know. Uh, there's all it's a bipartisan swamp raheem so. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a turtle, and as we know, just because

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<v Speaker 1>of the unders of nature, most turtles, whether they need

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<v Speaker 1>to or don't, end up looking somewhat like the Senate

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<v Speaker 1>majority leaders. Things like that are in the book, but

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<v Speaker 1>you just have to be an adult to appreciate them.

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<v Speaker 1>But on a kid's level, kids love the book because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a story about a caveman named Donald who drains

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<v Speaker 1>the swamp and who restores freedom, or who rather, who

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<v Speaker 1>brings freedom to these people who had been governed by

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<v Speaker 1>a bloated bureaucracy and a king who's decidedly out of

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<v Speaker 1>touch with things. Now it's it looks it seems perfectly

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<v Speaker 1>time to me. Of course, a lot of these things

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<v Speaker 1>are intentionally done so, but you know, Christmas is coming

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<v Speaker 1>up and it's a you know, I would say one

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<v Speaker 1>of those great one of those great stocking fellows. H.

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<v Speaker 1>It's certainly certainly bring brought a smile to my face

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<v Speaker 1>when I got my got my copy uh the other

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<v Speaker 1>week from our kind colleagues at regularly Publishing. Um. But

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<v Speaker 1>but let me ask you this. There are a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of and and stocks to that, you know, right up

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<v Speaker 1>to the gunnals um left wing children's books out there.

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<v Speaker 1>You know that are that are placed in schools, in

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<v Speaker 1>libraries that are designed to sort of indoctrinate or designed

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<v Speaker 1>that This is a big thing for me. I've written

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<v Speaker 1>thirty children's books. People don't know this. They think of

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<v Speaker 1>me as a radio host or is the author of

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<v Speaker 1>bon Hoffer or Luther or something books. I've written thirty

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<v Speaker 1>kids books. I was a writer for Veggie Tales. I've

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<v Speaker 1>written a ton of humor. I was the editor of

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<v Speaker 1>the Yale Humor magazine back when I was in college.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I think that our side, which is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>the conservatives rarely create cultural objects. We talk a lot,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically about politics or maybe theology, but to create cultural

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<v Speaker 1>objects usually a left is what does that? And right

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<v Speaker 1>now you have the spate of nasty left wing anti

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<v Speaker 1>Trump books masquerading as children's books. They are. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>it's nasty. You wouldn't give them to a kid. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a real book. It's obviously pro Trump, but it's innocent,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not nasty. Uh. And so so it really is

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<v Speaker 1>intended for for kids. And at the end of the story, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>they learn about self government because they want to make

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<v Speaker 1>Donald the king the new king after the king chases

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<v Speaker 1>the money out of the swamp to the horizon once

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<v Speaker 1>they've drained the swamp, and say, maybe you'd be our

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<v Speaker 1>new king, And just like George Washington, he says, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>He says, you are a free people. Now, a king

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<v Speaker 1>tells people what to do. But if free people tell

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<v Speaker 1>us their leaders what to do, and the leaders must

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<v Speaker 1>do it. And they say, oh, you mean like a

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<v Speaker 1>president and he says yes. And if that's what you're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for, I'm your caveman. So we've got these uh

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<v Speaker 1>buttons printed up that say he's my caveman. It's sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a fun way of owning the caveman quality of

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<v Speaker 1>our commander in chief. He gets things done. He knows

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<v Speaker 1>how to how to build a wall, he knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to drain a swamp, dig a trench that's bigger and

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<v Speaker 1>better than any trench ever been dug, and he really

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<v Speaker 1>he us know how to get things done. And it's, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the antithesis of Obama, who seemed to dither

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<v Speaker 1>and wring his hands in a Hamlet like fashion and

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<v Speaker 1>really not confront evil or do anything that that needed

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<v Speaker 1>doing and sort of said, we can we can talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it forever. Well, thank the Lord, he didn't talk

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<v Speaker 1>about it forever. He was voted out and we have

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<v Speaker 1>a president he's actually taking some action. So this is

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<v Speaker 1>a way of celebrating that. But I do think it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's fun enough that you could even give it as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a gag gift to somebody who doesn't like Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're really really nasty. They will definitely laugh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody says that they're finding it funny. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of slight humor. There's there's a bird of blue bird

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<v Speaker 1>that that flits in and out looks a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>like a twitter bird. So there's a lot of subtle

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<v Speaker 1>jokes for adults throughout. Yeah, no, I have I have

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<v Speaker 1>my copy, and I thought it was, um, it was

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<v Speaker 1>very humorous. I haven't. I haven't gone through all of

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<v Speaker 1>it and studied it and studied the drawings, indeed, held

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<v Speaker 1>to figure out who every single character is. That's the key.

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, the the orange creature. Uh, there's an orange

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<v Speaker 1>creature in there. And the illustrator told a friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even tell me. This is my dear friend. The

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<v Speaker 1>illustrator told another friend that the orange Triceratops is meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be John Brennan. So what can I tell you?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what if people will discover other things.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, there's all these nasty swamp creatures, and of

0:27:28.000 --> 0:27:30.159
<v Speaker 1>course they don't want to leave the swamp because the

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<v Speaker 1>swamp is made of money. Why would they leave? So

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<v Speaker 1>there's nothing to do except drain the swamp, and Donald

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<v Speaker 1>shows the kind of leadership to get it done. It's uh,

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<v Speaker 1>as I say, it's a it's a happy book. We're

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<v Speaker 1>actually building a Donald the Caveman plush so people can

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<v Speaker 1>get a plush dolluh. And also Mike Lindell of My

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<v Speaker 1>Pillow is creating a Donald the Caveman pillow. Donald drains

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<v Speaker 1>the swamp. So it's so this is not going away

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<v Speaker 1>anytime soon. Well, I gotta tell yeah, I did not

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<v Speaker 1>ever get a free my pillow, and I've never been

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<v Speaker 1>paid to advertise my pillows. But I gotta tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>Mike Lindell changed my life. F y, I I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know those things that those things are awesome. You're You're

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<v Speaker 1>James Mike Lindell personally. I You've got Tim Tim Raglan

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<v Speaker 1>as an illustrator on this book. Award winning illustrator has

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<v Speaker 1>done many He's brilliant. I mean, look, I knew he

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<v Speaker 1>had to do it. He and I've done many books together.

0:28:28.400 --> 0:28:30.879
<v Speaker 1>But he's the one that convinced me to take a

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<v Speaker 1>serious look at Trump back in the in the early primaries,

0:28:33.200 --> 0:28:35.320
<v Speaker 1>when I was not sold on Trump. He's the one

0:28:35.880 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 1>that insists. He says, this guy's a folk hero. You

0:28:38.760 --> 0:28:41.800
<v Speaker 1>need to to to watch him at these rallies, and

0:28:41.880 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 1>I finally understood. He's like a tall tale figure. He's

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<v Speaker 1>a folk hero. Donald Trump is a larger than life

0:28:49.280 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 1>folk hero for such a time as this in America,

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<v Speaker 1>and so this book is meant to celebrate that aspect

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<v Speaker 1>of him. That's why he's a caveman. Of course, everybody

0:28:56.760 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 1>in the book is either a caveman or a dinosaur.

0:28:59.400 --> 0:29:02.520
<v Speaker 1>But He really is kind of like a larger than life,

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<v Speaker 1>get it done folk hero, and I think that's why

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<v Speaker 1>he's so beloved and so hated on the other side. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>Eric Metaxas, the author of Donald Drain's The Swamp, I

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<v Speaker 1>am very I'm very pleased that this occurs, because, like

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<v Speaker 1>you said, you know, we can often on our side,

0:29:20.240 --> 0:29:22.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, just focus on the back, just focus on

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:27.880
<v Speaker 1>the negative, just focus on the politics. And actually culturally

0:29:28.160 --> 0:29:31.000
<v Speaker 1>we get beat around the head all over the shop,

0:29:31.320 --> 0:29:35.160
<v Speaker 1>whether it's in you know, Hollywood or in Manhattan. Bookstores

0:29:36.040 --> 0:29:38.480
<v Speaker 1>packed to the gunnals, full of full of left wing stuff.

0:29:38.480 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>So people go into a bookstore, good luck finding this book.

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 1>I hope you'll ask the manager do you have a copy?

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<v Speaker 1>And if not, why don't you? It's been in the

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<v Speaker 1>Amazon top one hundred. Uh, it continues to do well.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm gonna be doing TV. They don't have it.

0:29:55.200 --> 0:29:58.320
<v Speaker 1>It's an astounding thing, obviously because there's biased So I

0:29:58.360 --> 0:30:00.719
<v Speaker 1>think people need to say to bar the noble managers

0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:01.920
<v Speaker 1>and so on, but you need, you need to have

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<v Speaker 1>this in the store. I would have bought five copies,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, at at the price they're charging people

0:30:06.440 --> 0:30:08.720
<v Speaker 1>are buying five copies, you know, for Christmas or for

0:30:08.760 --> 0:30:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the grandkids whatever. And so it's scandalous to me that

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.840
<v Speaker 1>we live in a day and age when vast stores

0:30:13.880 --> 0:30:16.280
<v Speaker 1>like Barnes and Noble don't carry the book. I mean,

0:30:16.720 --> 0:30:19.920
<v Speaker 1>obviously half of the country loves this president and would

0:30:19.920 --> 0:30:22.560
<v Speaker 1>be interested in that. Yeah, it was, it was, Eric

0:30:22.680 --> 0:30:25.440
<v Speaker 1>was exactly the same thing when my book came out

0:30:25.440 --> 0:30:28.760
<v Speaker 1>in seventeen No go zones, um and and people were

0:30:28.760 --> 0:30:30.560
<v Speaker 1>asking me, you know, I've looked in my bookstore. I

0:30:30.600 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 1>can't get it. They said they can order it in

0:30:32.160 --> 0:30:34.160
<v Speaker 1>but that'll take two weeks. So a lot of people

0:30:34.240 --> 0:30:35.960
<v Speaker 1>ended up ordering it on Amazon, which, of course you

0:30:35.960 --> 0:30:38.320
<v Speaker 1>can get Donald Drains the Swamp on Amazon. But and then,

0:30:38.360 --> 0:30:39.840
<v Speaker 1>on the other hand, a lot of people don't want

0:30:39.840 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>to shop at Amazon for obvious reasons, right right, Well,

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.600
<v Speaker 1>better better to buy this at Amazon than to let

0:30:45.680 --> 0:30:49.160
<v Speaker 1>Stephen Colbert's book the number one forever. That's my theory.

0:30:49.680 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, Eric Metaxas, thanks for taking the

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<v Speaker 1>time out this evening to bring a little bit of

0:30:53.560 --> 0:30:55.800
<v Speaker 1>joy to us. As you say, it can get a

0:30:55.800 --> 0:30:58.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit draining and serious. So I'm really glad you've done,

0:30:58.280 --> 0:31:00.480
<v Speaker 1>Donald drains the swamp and that you can bring a

0:31:00.480 --> 0:31:02.200
<v Speaker 1>smile to our faces this evening. Thank you so much

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:04.200
<v Speaker 1>for rahem God bless you look forward to the next time.

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>Thank you. That is Eric Metaxas. Make sure you pick

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:08.680
<v Speaker 1>up a copy of Donald drames This Swamp is a

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:10.959
<v Speaker 1>great Christmas present. I will be buying it for several

0:31:11.080 --> 0:31:14.000
<v Speaker 1>people in my life, several who like President jop and

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 1>several who don't. I am rahemasm. This is the Buck

0:31:17.600 --> 0:31:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Sexton Show. On Thursday of November, the snow is hit

0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:26.440
<v Speaker 1>the East coast and caused all sorts of misery and problems.

0:31:26.520 --> 0:31:28.520
<v Speaker 1>But I hear the sun is coming back out tomorrow.

0:31:28.560 --> 0:31:31.520
<v Speaker 1>The phone lines are open here for you guys. It's

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<v Speaker 1>eight four four d buck. That's eight four eight to five.

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<v Speaker 1>So why don't you give me a jingle here in

0:31:39.480 --> 0:31:44.000
<v Speaker 1>the Freedom Hut keep me company this evening. We can talk, obviously,

0:31:44.120 --> 0:31:47.720
<v Speaker 1>talk about Michael Abernati, obviously talk about Jim Accosta and

0:31:47.760 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>his big claim that the migrants were not jumping the borders,

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:54.400
<v Speaker 1>and they actually are. We've got video of it and

0:31:54.440 --> 0:31:57.360
<v Speaker 1>it's online right now. It's been shown on new sites,

0:31:57.440 --> 0:32:01.920
<v Speaker 1>It's been shown all over Twitter over the course of today.

0:32:02.240 --> 0:32:04.440
<v Speaker 1>And UM, I also want to talk to you a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit, and I'll introde this a little bit right

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<v Speaker 1>now and do a little bit more in the next

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:14.320
<v Speaker 1>segment after the next break. But I had a an

0:32:14.400 --> 0:32:19.080
<v Speaker 1>article that I wrote in the Daily Caller yesterday. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>The headline of it was Trump understands the important difference

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<v Speaker 1>between nationalism and globalism and and it went pretty pretty

0:32:27.200 --> 0:32:29.959
<v Speaker 1>dawn viral over the course of the last twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think the reason it did there's not just

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<v Speaker 1>because President Emmanuel Macron of France chose a somber ceremony

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<v Speaker 1>of the Armistice commemorations to attack President Trump into attack nationalism,

0:32:46.640 --> 0:32:49.440
<v Speaker 1>but also because a lot of people don't quite understand

0:32:50.000 --> 0:32:55.560
<v Speaker 1>the concept, or they understand it at a farcical ethno

0:32:55.920 --> 0:33:01.520
<v Speaker 1>white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, homophoe, herb is lamophobe, I'm quite

0:33:01.640 --> 0:33:04.760
<v Speaker 1>Hillary Clinton now, UM, at that level, they don't actually

0:33:04.800 --> 0:33:09.640
<v Speaker 1>know the history or philosophy of nationalism, and they certainly

0:33:09.680 --> 0:33:15.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know that it was actually globalism, or rather it's

0:33:15.680 --> 0:33:20.080
<v Speaker 1>root philosophy of imperialism that was really to blame for

0:33:20.160 --> 0:33:23.480
<v Speaker 1>the Great Wars of the twentie century. So yes, back

0:33:23.520 --> 0:33:26.440
<v Speaker 1>to serious topics. We'll do more of it after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the buck Sexton Show. Him will be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheim

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<v Speaker 1>because I'm filling in for the great Bucks Sexton here

0:33:35.000 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>from the Freedom Heart and Washington, d C. Florida's Senate

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>Counts is heading to a hand recount. Gosh, what is

0:33:44.000 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>in the water down there in Broward County? Let me

0:33:46.680 --> 0:33:48.880
<v Speaker 1>ask you that I want to take some more calls,

0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:51.520
<v Speaker 1>so I get on the line eight four four to

0:33:51.640 --> 0:33:57.640
<v Speaker 1>five four Buck. I think we have Skippy and Boston

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<v Speaker 1>on the line. I want to bring Skippy in Boston

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<v Speaker 1>and if if we can connect there. Hey, Skibby, how

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<v Speaker 1>you doing? How are you reading? I hope you comment

0:34:08.920 --> 0:34:13.120
<v Speaker 1>about distrabanities statement after I don't know he was. It

0:34:13.200 --> 0:34:16.160
<v Speaker 1>was just out from being availed or what, and it

0:34:16.280 --> 0:34:18.640
<v Speaker 1>was amazing, went he satellites, I'm going to be brief,

0:34:18.680 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 1>and to Saint. When you were brief, you were already

0:34:21.360 --> 0:34:26.200
<v Speaker 1>be at the Saint for you repetitious. But but when

0:34:26.200 --> 0:34:30.760
<v Speaker 1>he said the statement, my my, you know, the alarm

0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:32.239
<v Speaker 1>clock went out of my head when I heard him

0:34:32.280 --> 0:34:35.359
<v Speaker 1>say I've never hit a woman. I will never hit

0:34:35.360 --> 0:34:38.839
<v Speaker 1>a woman. I just women. Twenty four hours ago, there

0:34:38.920 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 1>was multiple reports when he was being arrested. There was

0:34:42.640 --> 0:34:48.080
<v Speaker 1>reports of them shouting, but she hit me first. Therefore,

0:34:48.280 --> 0:34:50.440
<v Speaker 1>if she hit me first, that has to me he

0:34:50.560 --> 0:34:53.200
<v Speaker 1>had a second, which kills his statement of I have

0:34:53.360 --> 0:34:56.320
<v Speaker 1>never had a woman. Well, that's right, I mean the

0:34:56.480 --> 0:34:59.480
<v Speaker 1>and we have to obviously be fair and careful with this.

0:34:59.640 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>The allegations are still allegations, but the witness reports suggested

0:35:03.840 --> 0:35:07.160
<v Speaker 1>that at the time he had said something along the

0:35:07.160 --> 0:35:10.359
<v Speaker 1>lines of she hit me first, and then as you're

0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:14.640
<v Speaker 1>right to say, skippy. His his statement says, uh, I

0:35:14.680 --> 0:35:17.760
<v Speaker 1>have never struck a woman. I will never strike a woman.

0:35:18.040 --> 0:35:20.680
<v Speaker 1>I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>something apart from that, skibby, something strange strikes me about

0:35:29.000 --> 0:35:31.880
<v Speaker 1>that attitude. A couple of weeks ago, I don't know

0:35:31.920 --> 0:35:36.400
<v Speaker 1>if you know this, conservative journalist Laura looma independent investigative journalist,

0:35:36.840 --> 0:35:40.720
<v Speaker 1>um he tweeted Michael Abernardi tweeted a very unflattering picture

0:35:40.760 --> 0:35:42.840
<v Speaker 1>of her, and the intent of that picture was obviously

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:45.320
<v Speaker 1>to I suppose what the left would call body shame

0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:49.240
<v Speaker 1>her right, make make fun of her appearance. Um so, so, firstly,

0:35:49.520 --> 0:35:52.440
<v Speaker 1>that doesn't sound like particularly like being an advocate to me.

0:35:52.760 --> 0:35:55.040
<v Speaker 1>It also doesn't seem like you're much of an advocate

0:35:55.080 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 1>for women's rights. And you tell me if I'm wrong

0:35:56.880 --> 0:36:00.080
<v Speaker 1>or right on this, Skibby. If you're presenting people to

0:36:00.120 --> 0:36:03.400
<v Speaker 1>the public whose allegations are so false that they end

0:36:03.480 --> 0:36:06.239
<v Speaker 1>up disbelieving women in the long haul, what do you

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:10.640
<v Speaker 1>think that's right to show he was He was just

0:36:10.760 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>moving in. He's trying to make a name from tot

0:36:12.719 --> 0:36:15.920
<v Speaker 1>trying to make mostly make some money. And can I

0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 1>ask you something else? Who was the solid that was

0:36:18.080 --> 0:36:21.640
<v Speaker 1>up in Minnesota who just became that attorney general? He

0:36:22.080 --> 0:36:25.720
<v Speaker 1>was at his wife for girlfriends and I'm talking about

0:36:26.160 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 1>There's there's a lot of it going on out there, Skippy. Unfortunately,

0:36:29.840 --> 0:36:31.480
<v Speaker 1>we're up against the hard break. But I thank you

0:36:31.520 --> 0:36:33.600
<v Speaker 1>for your call. I will I will follow up on

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<v Speaker 1>your question momentarily in the meantime. This is the Buck

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.520
<v Speaker 1>Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We're going to be back

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<v Speaker 1>after this break. Dozens of people gathered on the South side.

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<v Speaker 1>Some climbed the barrier and sat on it, Others walked

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<v Speaker 1>the structure while Border patrol agent kept an eye on

0:36:52.640 --> 0:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>the crowd. This man dressed in red and white jumping

0:36:55.920 --> 0:36:59.680
<v Speaker 1>onto US soil. That person and others who did come

0:36:59.719 --> 0:37:04.080
<v Speaker 1>across US ran back when border patrol agents approached. It's

0:37:04.120 --> 0:37:07.440
<v Speaker 1>not known for certain who these people are. The Border

0:37:07.480 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 1>Patrol said it believes some could be from that caravan

0:37:11.600 --> 0:37:14.759
<v Speaker 1>that has been making its way through Mexico from Honduras.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the latest situation at the border. I'm Rheim Kassam.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the buck Sexton Show'm going to be discussing

0:37:23.719 --> 0:37:26.800
<v Speaker 1>this issue now with another one of our fantastic guests

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<v Speaker 1>from the Center for Immigration Studies. We have their director

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<v Speaker 1>of Policy Studies, Jessica m vaughan, joining us on the line. Jessica,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you and welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Glad

0:37:37.239 --> 0:37:41.080
<v Speaker 1>to be with you. So um, I was of the belief, Jessica,

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:44.160
<v Speaker 1>that that because I get all of my news from

0:37:44.239 --> 0:37:48.800
<v Speaker 1>Jim Acosta, and and I listened to his every word

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:52.319
<v Speaker 1>and I hang on it, and everything he says is

0:37:52.400 --> 0:37:55.000
<v Speaker 1>obviously true. And when he got up last week in

0:37:55.040 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 1>the White House and said, these people are not at

0:37:57.640 --> 0:38:00.440
<v Speaker 1>the border. They're nowhere near the thousands of my is away.

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<v Speaker 1>And even when they are going to get to the border,

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.200
<v Speaker 1>they're not going to try and climb over fences. What happened.

0:38:06.239 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe that Jim Acosta was wrong. Well, yeah,

0:38:12.600 --> 0:38:15.759
<v Speaker 1>he was like so many in the news media, reporting

0:38:15.800 --> 0:38:20.560
<v Speaker 1>without having actually seen what was going on and without

0:38:20.600 --> 0:38:26.440
<v Speaker 1>any kind of um experienced nuance or you know, talking

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to real experts in the field. Um. Of course, the

0:38:32.320 --> 0:38:35.480
<v Speaker 1>caravan was going to get here quickly. They got rides.

0:38:35.520 --> 0:38:38.440
<v Speaker 1>In fact, I think some probably got here even earlier

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<v Speaker 1>than today, the ones who peeled off and went with smugglers.

0:38:42.000 --> 0:38:46.719
<v Speaker 1>And obviously they're not all peacefully seeking asylum as the

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.040
<v Speaker 1>President suggested through the legal ports of entry. They're not

0:38:50.160 --> 0:38:56.400
<v Speaker 1>all starving mothers and children. Uh, they are here to

0:38:56.680 --> 0:38:59.120
<v Speaker 1>try to get into the United States, and the organizers

0:38:59.120 --> 0:39:03.359
<v Speaker 1>are trying to make a political point for open borders. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't say the particularly brave either. Hearing about the

0:39:06.480 --> 0:39:10.600
<v Speaker 1>one who jumped down to the beach and then ran

0:39:10.640 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 1>away when he's all the border patrol, I'm surprised he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't try to claim asylum as the lawyers suggested they do,

0:39:17.600 --> 0:39:20.960
<v Speaker 1>although I guess he wouldn't be successful because he was

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 1>entering illegally. But it is pretty interesting. There are many

0:39:24.920 --> 0:39:29.080
<v Speaker 1>many young men, the classic kind of people who are

0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:32.279
<v Speaker 1>trying to enter illegally all these years, but who have

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:37.280
<v Speaker 1>been um sharing the stage now with people coming with kids.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, this isn't an adventure and an opportunity

0:39:40.920 --> 0:39:43.319
<v Speaker 1>for a lot of these people. They're not fleeing persecution.

0:39:43.360 --> 0:39:46.200
<v Speaker 1>If they were, they would have looked for safe haven

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<v Speaker 1>in Mexico. They're they're here to try to get in

0:39:49.920 --> 0:39:52.560
<v Speaker 1>because they think they can get away with it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I must say, um, the Center for Immigration Studies

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<v Speaker 1>on the website, you have a you have a migrant

0:39:58.600 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 1>caravan uh map describing the location. Uh. You know, because

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<v Speaker 1>you actually don't see this very much, very often on

0:40:08.400 --> 0:40:13.919
<v Speaker 1>the on the news media, especially not some certain channels. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was it was clear to me a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of a couple of weeks ago when I started doing

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<v Speaker 1>my own research into this and finding out just how

0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:26.200
<v Speaker 1>far back this sort of trajectory and history of this

0:40:26.280 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>sort of long term undermining of US border sovereignty, how

0:40:30.600 --> 0:40:33.160
<v Speaker 1>far back it stretches, and how far back some of

0:40:33.200 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>these halfway houses go and who they're funded by historically,

0:40:36.160 --> 0:40:38.440
<v Speaker 1>it was obvious to me, and it sounds like it

0:40:38.440 --> 0:40:41.240
<v Speaker 1>was obvious to you that this was going to arrive

0:40:41.280 --> 0:40:45.080
<v Speaker 1>at least a couple of hundred several hundred, um if

0:40:45.120 --> 0:40:47.640
<v Speaker 1>not more, We're going to arrive very soon. It's why

0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.960
<v Speaker 1>I actually did scratch my head a little bit last week,

0:40:50.000 --> 0:40:52.719
<v Speaker 1>because Jim Acosta wasn't sort of saying this down the

0:40:52.760 --> 0:40:54.520
<v Speaker 1>pub with his mates where he wouldn't be able to

0:40:54.680 --> 0:40:58.320
<v Speaker 1>be held to account for making these counter factual statements.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:01.399
<v Speaker 1>He was saying on probably the most watched clip now

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:05.280
<v Speaker 1>in the last three or four months. I mean that

0:41:05.280 --> 0:41:08.320
<v Speaker 1>that altercation in the White House is probably the number

0:41:08.360 --> 0:41:11.279
<v Speaker 1>one thing that's been watched anywhere in the world. And

0:41:11.360 --> 0:41:14.240
<v Speaker 1>he outright lied, And I suppose a lot of people

0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:17.479
<v Speaker 1>they want to know whether it was a knowing lie

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:19.880
<v Speaker 1>or whether he's just ignorant on this. I mean, what

0:41:20.120 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 1>do you think? That is a very good question. I'm

0:41:25.400 --> 0:41:29.200
<v Speaker 1>not sure if he's just kidding himself or deliberately misleading

0:41:29.320 --> 0:41:33.640
<v Speaker 1>his audience for political reasons. It sure appears to me

0:41:33.800 --> 0:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>that his desire to embarrass or discredit or undermine President

0:41:42.080 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Trump seems to take priority or get the best of

0:41:46.880 --> 0:41:51.279
<v Speaker 1>any um journalistic impulses that he may have or at

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:55.600
<v Speaker 1>least be trained in. I think that that you know

0:41:55.680 --> 0:41:59.120
<v Speaker 1>that that's what he's interested in doing, you know, regardless

0:41:59.160 --> 0:42:01.160
<v Speaker 1>of what the truth is, is that he's there to

0:42:01.200 --> 0:42:04.560
<v Speaker 1>grandstand and to make the president or try to make

0:42:04.560 --> 0:42:08.080
<v Speaker 1>the President look bad, rather than report the news or

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:12.080
<v Speaker 1>ask a question. I wanna I wanna play for you here, Jessica,

0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:15.480
<v Speaker 1>the clip from President Trum what he said, and get

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<v Speaker 1>your reaction to that. Mr producer, Let's bay clips to

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<v Speaker 1>please the Democrats have launched an assault on the sovereignty

0:42:23.480 --> 0:42:27.120
<v Speaker 1>of our country, the security of our nation, and the

0:42:27.239 --> 0:42:32.000
<v Speaker 1>safety of every single American. The crisis on our border

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.480
<v Speaker 1>right now as we speak is the sole result of

0:42:36.600 --> 0:42:42.839
<v Speaker 1>Democrat laws and activists Democrat judges that prevent us from

0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 1>returning illegal aliens from Central America and all over the world.

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<v Speaker 1>It's called Catchen Release. Jessica Vaughan, director of Policy Studies

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<v Speaker 1>at the Center for Immigration Studies, Is he on the

0:43:00.400 --> 0:43:07.160
<v Speaker 1>money there? Yes, he is, actually um. The the biggest

0:43:07.200 --> 0:43:10.960
<v Speaker 1>problem is that there is a judge in California by

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<v Speaker 1>the name of Judge Dolly g who has greatly restricted

0:43:15.880 --> 0:43:19.520
<v Speaker 1>what the federal government can do in handling these cases

0:43:19.520 --> 0:43:22.920
<v Speaker 1>of parents and kids who cross illegally, basically saying that

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<v Speaker 1>that the that the government can never detain kids, or

0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:29.799
<v Speaker 1>at least not for longer than twenty days, even if

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:33.040
<v Speaker 1>they arrive illegally with their parents. And even the Obama

0:43:33.080 --> 0:43:39.320
<v Speaker 1>administration fought this judge over this interpretation of a settlement

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.800
<v Speaker 1>agreement that was reached years ago on how to treat

0:43:43.080 --> 0:43:47.000
<v Speaker 1>kids who arrived by themselves at the border and how

0:43:47.040 --> 0:43:49.919
<v Speaker 1>to UM look out for kids who may have been

0:43:50.000 --> 0:43:54.680
<v Speaker 1>trafficked into the United States. Uh. And she has basically

0:43:54.680 --> 0:43:58.319
<v Speaker 1>expanded this to cover anyone under the age of a

0:43:58.440 --> 0:44:00.960
<v Speaker 1>teen who arrives at the border are either with their

0:44:01.040 --> 0:44:03.799
<v Speaker 1>kids or with a smuggler, or excuse me, with their

0:44:03.840 --> 0:44:08.400
<v Speaker 1>parent or with a smuggler, and that is constraining the government. UM.

0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:13.000
<v Speaker 1>The original law that that UM set up the parameters

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:17.040
<v Speaker 1>for dealing with a company Miners was written by Democrats. Now,

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it was signed into law by President George Bush. But

0:44:22.400 --> 0:44:25.000
<v Speaker 1>it is fair to call it a democratic law because

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:28.600
<v Speaker 1>they wrote it. UM. But you know, Republicans stupidly went

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:31.279
<v Speaker 1>along with it. Never imagining that we would see this

0:44:31.320 --> 0:44:34.279
<v Speaker 1>flood of people arriving with their kids because traditionally people

0:44:34.320 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>have always come without their kids and left them behind. Well,

0:44:37.360 --> 0:44:39.399
<v Speaker 1>I will, I will, I will say this. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>I I don't think it's necessarily that those Republicans of

0:44:44.000 --> 0:44:47.600
<v Speaker 1>that time didn't foresee this. I think they didn't care.

0:44:48.000 --> 0:44:50.799
<v Speaker 1>They didn't quite understand, you know, that it was an

0:44:50.840 --> 0:44:54.680
<v Speaker 1>attack on on on national sovereignty and and and it

0:44:54.920 --> 0:44:58.040
<v Speaker 1>escaped them and escaped them because their priorities at the

0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.560
<v Speaker 1>time were not you know, the nation state and not

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:04.720
<v Speaker 1>border security. And we hadn't started hearing of all the

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.200
<v Speaker 1>horror stories yet of of of what illegal immigration was

0:45:08.239 --> 0:45:10.920
<v Speaker 1>doing uh to the United States. And I want to

0:45:10.960 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 1>ask you a couple of questions, um, because I know

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.279
<v Speaker 1>we were limited on time here. I just wanted to

0:45:16.320 --> 0:45:21.000
<v Speaker 1>ask two questions to Jessica Vaughan. Number One, in your

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<v Speaker 1>estimation how many have started to arrive at that Tijuana border,

0:45:24.800 --> 0:45:28.040
<v Speaker 1>because you know, the Daily Mail says fifteen hundred UM,

0:45:28.560 --> 0:45:33.640
<v Speaker 1>NBC says four hundred, CNN saying negative three million, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>How what at this point? What is the what is

0:45:36.960 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 1>the estimate of what's going on down there? Because because

0:45:39.520 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 1>the the info seems a little bit a little bit

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:46.080
<v Speaker 1>confused at the moment. One of my colleagues is reporting

0:45:46.120 --> 0:45:51.439
<v Speaker 1>from Texas and interviewing his contacts UM in the US

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:55.399
<v Speaker 1>military and Texas law enforcement agencies, and he says, there

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:59.240
<v Speaker 1>are one thousand, seven hundred and fifty who have arrived

0:45:59.320 --> 0:46:03.279
<v Speaker 1>in Tijuan uh, which is about three times the capacity

0:46:03.320 --> 0:46:08.399
<v Speaker 1>of the existing migrant shelters in Tijuana. Wow. And and

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<v Speaker 1>as a as a sort of an asside to that,

0:46:11.239 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>what what do you foresee now happening? How do these

0:46:14.120 --> 0:46:19.800
<v Speaker 1>people get uh dealt with processed? UM and and other estimates.

0:46:19.840 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 1>So there is the historical averages of how many get

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<v Speaker 1>less in Well, the caravan in the spring, pretty much

0:46:29.239 --> 0:46:34.120
<v Speaker 1>everyone who applied for asylum was allowed into the United

0:46:34.160 --> 0:46:37.600
<v Speaker 1>States to present that claim and immigration court UM. A

0:46:37.600 --> 0:46:42.600
<v Speaker 1>few of them were denied because of previous deportations or

0:46:42.680 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 1>criminal history, but almost all of them were let in UM.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And what's going to happen here is that they're going

0:46:49.280 --> 0:46:51.440
<v Speaker 1>to be told to sort of take a number that

0:46:51.520 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 1>they can't be allowed in to ask for asylum until

0:46:55.320 --> 0:46:58.000
<v Speaker 1>we have the capacity to process them. And that could

0:46:58.000 --> 0:47:01.520
<v Speaker 1>take a very very long time because are already lots

0:47:01.520 --> 0:47:04.440
<v Speaker 1>of people waiting. I mean this, this kind of slow

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:08.280
<v Speaker 1>motion caravan of asylum seekers has been going on for

0:47:08.360 --> 0:47:11.600
<v Speaker 1>at least a year with hundreds of people arriving at

0:47:11.640 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 1>these ports of entry. So they're gonna be um process

0:47:15.400 --> 0:47:19.719
<v Speaker 1>very slowly. There I suspect that um fewer of them

0:47:19.800 --> 0:47:21.880
<v Speaker 1>will be let in than in the spring, because what

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.560
<v Speaker 1>we know is that only half the people who let

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<v Speaker 1>in asking for asylum will actually fill out the asylum

0:47:28.280 --> 0:47:31.000
<v Speaker 1>application form once we let them in, and half of

0:47:31.040 --> 0:47:33.279
<v Speaker 1>them will not show up for their court hearings, and

0:47:33.320 --> 0:47:37.360
<v Speaker 1>only ten or so will ever be found qualified for asylum.

0:47:37.480 --> 0:47:39.480
<v Speaker 1>What they don't want asylum, they want to get into

0:47:39.480 --> 0:47:44.879
<v Speaker 1>the United States. And unless the Trump administration has come

0:47:45.000 --> 0:47:49.040
<v Speaker 1>up with some with better ways to apply the law

0:47:49.920 --> 0:47:52.719
<v Speaker 1>for asylum seekers, than most of them are going to

0:47:52.719 --> 0:47:55.680
<v Speaker 1>get in, but just at a slow pace. But but

0:47:55.760 --> 0:47:59.200
<v Speaker 1>that's no comfort to the communities around the country that

0:47:59.200 --> 0:48:00.960
<v Speaker 1>that are going to have to absorb these people who

0:48:00.960 --> 0:48:05.239
<v Speaker 1>will basically join the illegal population. It's and speaking of which,

0:48:05.600 --> 0:48:08.680
<v Speaker 1>let's just clarify something quickly, because you know, you still

0:48:08.719 --> 0:48:12.200
<v Speaker 1>see a lot of people using that eleven million figure.

0:48:12.200 --> 0:48:16.799
<v Speaker 1>There are eleven million illegals in the United States. Some go, okay, yeah, fine,

0:48:16.840 --> 0:48:18.520
<v Speaker 1>that was a couple of years ago. Maybe there are

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>thirteen or fourteen now. But actually somebody said to me

0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:25.920
<v Speaker 1>UM a few days ago, maybe even last night, that

0:48:26.000 --> 0:48:27.960
<v Speaker 1>they were of the belief that it's more like twenty

0:48:28.239 --> 0:48:31.880
<v Speaker 1>to thirty million. Where does the Center for Immigration Studies

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<v Speaker 1>fall on this? What are your estimates? We estimate that

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<v Speaker 1>there are about twelve million people here. UM. We used

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<v Speaker 1>to Census Bureau data to try to ascertain that and

0:48:43.320 --> 0:48:45.960
<v Speaker 1>and adjust for an under account that we know happens.

0:48:46.840 --> 0:48:50.360
<v Speaker 1>We haven't been able to corroborate that the higher figures

0:48:50.920 --> 0:48:56.680
<v Speaker 1>through any any other methods like UM, schools, hospitals, law enforcement,

0:48:56.760 --> 0:49:00.440
<v Speaker 1>or any other way. It's impossible to really have an

0:49:00.480 --> 0:49:04.400
<v Speaker 1>accurate count because you know, it's just not gonna not

0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:07.640
<v Speaker 1>not possible. But Census Bureau is pretty good at it

0:49:08.000 --> 0:49:11.279
<v Speaker 1>because they send all sorts of UM staff out to

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.800
<v Speaker 1>encourage people to fill out the forms. Because local governments

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:18.560
<v Speaker 1>depend on accurate numbers to get certain kinds of funding

0:49:18.600 --> 0:49:20.759
<v Speaker 1>from the from the federal government, so we think it's

0:49:20.840 --> 0:49:24.759
<v Speaker 1>close to accurate. Twelve million is what we say. Jessica Vaughn,

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<v Speaker 1>the Center for Immigration Studies, Director of Policy Studies. Thank

0:49:28.480 --> 0:49:29.960
<v Speaker 1>you so much for joining us here this evening on

0:49:29.960 --> 0:49:33.640
<v Speaker 1>the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for having me. They're good

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<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen. What do you think the phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>are open? Eight four four n eight to five. I

0:49:40.680 --> 0:49:43.440
<v Speaker 1>am of the belief that the number is higher, but

0:49:43.520 --> 0:49:47.160
<v Speaker 1>Jessica is also a very very competent and well known

0:49:47.160 --> 0:49:50.560
<v Speaker 1>and well respected expert. There was a Yale Insights study

0:49:51.000 --> 0:49:55.080
<v Speaker 1>recently that put the number between I think eighteen and

0:49:55.360 --> 0:49:59.239
<v Speaker 1>twenty two million UM. But as Jessica says, there's there's

0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:04.719
<v Speaker 1>census day to and there's hospital data, and there's school data.

0:50:05.080 --> 0:50:09.879
<v Speaker 1>I have something to say about it. One is bad

0:50:10.000 --> 0:50:14.759
<v Speaker 1>enough to maintain border security. The nation should not tolerate

0:50:15.080 --> 0:50:18.600
<v Speaker 1>one illegal immigrant. My country has the same problem. The

0:50:18.680 --> 0:50:21.120
<v Speaker 1>United Kingdom has the same problem we have. We seem

0:50:21.200 --> 0:50:23.800
<v Speaker 1>to have this buffer, we seem to have this general

0:50:23.840 --> 0:50:27.320
<v Speaker 1>acceptance that, yeah, there's going to be a certain number

0:50:27.360 --> 0:50:31.600
<v Speaker 1>of people who have broken the law, and that's fine.

0:50:32.040 --> 0:50:35.759
<v Speaker 1>I suppose this is this is the mentality that our

0:50:35.760 --> 0:50:38.600
<v Speaker 1>governments operate, that there is not a right and wrong,

0:50:38.719 --> 0:50:41.200
<v Speaker 1>but there is not illegal or illegal, but there is

0:50:41.239 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>some sort of acceptable gray area. I think to yourself,

0:50:44.719 --> 0:50:48.520
<v Speaker 1>why why would we accept a gray area like that.

0:50:48.760 --> 0:50:52.400
<v Speaker 1>We don't accept gray areas in murder cases, or in

0:50:52.560 --> 0:50:57.600
<v Speaker 1>rape cases, or in theft cases, burglaries. Yeah, that guy

0:50:57.719 --> 0:51:01.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of burgled your house, but did really burgle you. Yeah,

0:51:01.680 --> 0:51:06.160
<v Speaker 1>he took the TV, he left the DVD player, he

0:51:06.239 --> 0:51:08.360
<v Speaker 1>left the stereos, And don't worry about it. It's a

0:51:08.400 --> 0:51:11.600
<v Speaker 1>gray area. This is the Buck Sexton Show and Rhea,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna go to a quick break back, hopefully more

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<v Speaker 1>of your calls and much more eight four four to

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<v Speaker 1>five A four four nine D Buck, We'll be right back.

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<v Speaker 1>Radical Democrats want to turn back the clock forward the

0:51:28.520 --> 0:51:32.520
<v Speaker 1>rule of corrupt, power hungry, global less. You know what,

0:51:32.520 --> 0:51:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the globuless is, right, you know what that loveless is

0:51:36.200 --> 0:51:40.560
<v Speaker 1>a globulens. There's a person that wants the blog to

0:51:40.640 --> 0:51:45.160
<v Speaker 1>do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much.

0:51:45.920 --> 0:51:48.160
<v Speaker 1>And you know what, we can't have that. You know,

0:51:48.200 --> 0:51:51.279
<v Speaker 1>they have a word. It sort of became old fashioned.

0:51:51.520 --> 0:51:55.160
<v Speaker 1>It's called a nationalist. And I say, really, we're not

0:51:55.239 --> 0:51:57.200
<v Speaker 1>supposed to use that word. You know what I am.

0:51:57.280 --> 0:52:05.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm a nationalist, Okay, I'm a nast us President Trump.

0:52:05.840 --> 0:52:10.919
<v Speaker 1>They're speaking a couple of weeks ago now about his nationalism,

0:52:10.920 --> 0:52:15.880
<v Speaker 1>a word that sent the talking heads on your televisions

0:52:15.880 --> 0:52:19.600
<v Speaker 1>into a big old frenzy. I wrote a piece for

0:52:19.640 --> 0:52:24.200
<v Speaker 1>The Daily Caller this week yesterday in fact, about nationalism,

0:52:24.200 --> 0:52:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and about specifically why President Emmanuel Macron was mistaken in

0:52:29.880 --> 0:52:36.239
<v Speaker 1>trying to use that Armistice one year anniversary commemoration to

0:52:36.400 --> 0:52:40.360
<v Speaker 1>attack President Trump. In the article, which I've just tweeted,

0:52:40.360 --> 0:52:41.840
<v Speaker 1>by the way, if you want to follow me on Twitter,

0:52:41.840 --> 0:52:48.360
<v Speaker 1>it's at Raheem Kasam, that's k A. S. S A M.

0:52:48.400 --> 0:52:52.319
<v Speaker 1>I wrote about the resistance leader from the Second World War,

0:52:52.360 --> 0:52:55.120
<v Speaker 1>General Charles de gaul, who went on to be President

0:52:55.120 --> 0:52:58.640
<v Speaker 1>of France himself. He said in and I think this

0:52:58.719 --> 0:53:00.719
<v Speaker 1>is a good phrase to deploy if ever you get

0:53:00.719 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 1>accosted by globalists. He said, he who does not love

0:53:05.800 --> 0:53:09.239
<v Speaker 1>his mother more than his more than other mothers, and

0:53:09.320 --> 0:53:14.279
<v Speaker 1>his fatherland more than other fatherlands, loves neither his mother

0:53:15.040 --> 0:53:17.279
<v Speaker 1>nor his fatherland. I want to get a response to

0:53:17.400 --> 0:53:21.760
<v Speaker 1>that um, and of course, the wider debate surrounding border

0:53:21.840 --> 0:53:24.439
<v Speaker 1>security and sovereignty from another one of the great callers

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, Rich is in West by God, Virginia, Richard,

0:53:28.920 --> 0:53:35.160
<v Speaker 1>are you there West Virginia? Trade absolutely, Richard, take it away.

0:53:37.120 --> 0:53:41.279
<v Speaker 1>As far as I really love a President Trump, A

0:53:41.360 --> 0:53:44.279
<v Speaker 1>lot of the stuff he says about the immigrants, when

0:53:44.320 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 1>he's saying innocent people, there's a lot of them did

0:53:52.000 --> 0:53:57.080
<v Speaker 1>generates are just were criminals, and he just believes you

0:53:57.120 --> 0:54:01.240
<v Speaker 1>are to stand them back. And these country, these smaller

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:04.800
<v Speaker 1>countries are the samer and moment. They need to do something,

0:54:05.440 --> 0:54:08.560
<v Speaker 1>change the way the country is being run so they

0:54:08.560 --> 0:54:11.239
<v Speaker 1>can can come merge. Heaven to send them over here.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just I just say he's attitude when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to that, all kind of different things. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>he's doing a great too. I haven't think he's probably

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<v Speaker 1>the best person that we ever heard. Well, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Isn't it brilliant? Actually, Richard to say to those people, hey, look,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want that country to get better, probably the

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<v Speaker 1>best thing is not to leave that country. How can

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<v Speaker 1>how can these nations? How can these nations improve? How

0:54:36.640 --> 0:54:38.880
<v Speaker 1>can things get better? How can economies improve? How can

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<v Speaker 1>innovations happen? If you don't have the manpower, the people

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<v Speaker 1>capital to do it. If you're best and brightest are

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<v Speaker 1>being encouraged to move to other countries. Well, what happens.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you Richard for

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<v Speaker 1>the call. We'll be right back after another break. Welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahm because I'm

0:55:00.200 --> 0:55:03.720
<v Speaker 1>filling in for Buck Sexton today, live from the Freedom

0:55:03.840 --> 0:55:09.360
<v Speaker 1>Hut in a snowy and slushy Washington, d C. The

0:55:09.440 --> 0:55:11.879
<v Speaker 1>lines are open. Here the phone number for you all

0:55:12.080 --> 0:55:14.439
<v Speaker 1>out there. You want to get something off your chest,

0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.160
<v Speaker 1>Do you have a question, do you have a comment?

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<v Speaker 1>Keep it clean? Eight four four nine hundred to eight

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<v Speaker 1>to five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. We've

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<v Speaker 1>heard from a couple of callers already across the show.

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<v Speaker 1>I love the callers. The callers, for me are the

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<v Speaker 1>best part of the show. No offense to the guests

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<v Speaker 1>and myself. UM, but I'm more interested in what you

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<v Speaker 1>have to say than what I have to say. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And and you know that's that's I think the most

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<v Speaker 1>important part of this this presidency as well here in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. I think the president does what he

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<v Speaker 1>does because he's interested in in how people, ordinary hard

0:55:50.800 --> 0:55:55.080
<v Speaker 1>working people who do the things that you guys do

0:55:55.520 --> 0:56:01.960
<v Speaker 1>out there every day, how they want the country. I've

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<v Speaker 1>got a great guest lined up for you for this

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<v Speaker 1>segment as well, Eric Eggers. He is a he's a

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<v Speaker 1>researcher and author from the Government Accountability Institute. He's the

0:56:14.239 --> 0:56:18.000
<v Speaker 1>author of a new book called Fraud. And you might

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<v Speaker 1>know the Government Accountability instu g I and and Eric

0:56:23.000 --> 0:56:27.800
<v Speaker 1>because of the Clinton Cash book, an investigation from just

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<v Speaker 1>before the election. So I really wanted to have Eric

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<v Speaker 1>on this evening. I'm glad he could join us um

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<v Speaker 1>to discuss this new book, the subtitle of which is

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<v Speaker 1>How the Left Plans to steal the next election. And

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<v Speaker 1>we've touched so far in the first hour or so

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<v Speaker 1>on voter fraud, on what's going on in Florida, and

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump channeling the views of ordinary people and saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>hold on a second, how does it take a week

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<v Speaker 1>class to count these ballots? Where are these ballot boxes disappearing?

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<v Speaker 1>To again, in any other part of life, if this

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<v Speaker 1>were to happen, we wouldn't tolerate it, and we certainly

0:57:11.800 --> 0:57:13.839
<v Speaker 1>I don't think should be tolerating it when it comes

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<v Speaker 1>to something as sacrosanct as people's votes, as how you

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<v Speaker 1>decide who governs a nation, who governs a state, even

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<v Speaker 1>if it were the election of a dog catcher, we

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't tolerate something like this. And Matt Gates came out

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<v Speaker 1>today and said, well, actually this is a warm up

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<v Speaker 1>act for the Democrat Party of America who planned to

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<v Speaker 1>steal the election by doing things like they're doing in

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<v Speaker 1>Broward County. I want to bring on Eric AGA's now

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about this. Eric. Good, good evening to you. Hey,

0:57:51.480 --> 0:57:53.440
<v Speaker 1>thanks for him. It's great to be here. But if

0:57:53.520 --> 0:57:54.960
<v Speaker 1>if it'd be more interesting to you, I could just

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<v Speaker 1>see Eric from Tawahassee that has an opinion about voter

0:57:57.480 --> 0:58:01.200
<v Speaker 1>part that would be more interesting to me. Eric. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>Speaking of speaking, I mean, I'm obsessed with weather. It's

0:58:04.240 --> 0:58:06.800
<v Speaker 1>just it's in my blood. Um. I bet it's not

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<v Speaker 1>snowing and slushy down in Tallahassee. It's not, man, but

0:58:10.600 --> 0:58:14.520
<v Speaker 1>it's cold. It's incommonly cold here in North Florida. So um,

0:58:14.800 --> 0:58:16.760
<v Speaker 1>it's we literally just turned the heat on today for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time. Get you get cold when it hit

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<v Speaker 1>seventy Listen, listen. I will not stand for that, especially

0:58:24.360 --> 0:58:26.400
<v Speaker 1>you know from somebody up in d C. Listen in

0:58:26.480 --> 0:58:29.640
<v Speaker 1>North Florida, we have a hearty stock and uh it's

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<v Speaker 1>at least in the forties now it's cold. So but yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's said, but but things are heating up as it

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<v Speaker 1>relates to uh, you know that the things that are

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<v Speaker 1>happening from an election standpoint, obviously, Florida's bien. Hey, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I worked in radio for a little bit, so it's

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<v Speaker 1>been it's been obviously a very contentious time. But um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think we've just completed the machine recounts

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<v Speaker 1>here and so actually just and you may have covered

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<v Speaker 1>this already, but Ron the Antist has declared victory again

0:59:02.800 --> 0:59:06.640
<v Speaker 1>and sort of they been declared the winner maintained in

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty three thousand vote margin. Rick Scott and Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson will head into a manual recount because they're still

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<v Speaker 1>separated by the left and the point to five percent

0:59:16.960 --> 0:59:20.240
<v Speaker 1>threshold which triggers the manual recounts under Florida law. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's a great point you make, Raheem about the

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<v Speaker 1>things that Donald Trump has said. You know, he was

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<v Speaker 1>criticized because of his tweet about people or or I

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<v Speaker 1>guess somebody quoted him saying that people go and vote

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<v Speaker 1>and then and then they change clothes and then to

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<v Speaker 1>come back and vote again. And I don't have any

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<v Speaker 1>evidence of that atarily don't have any stories like that

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<v Speaker 1>in my book. But but what I do think is true.

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<v Speaker 1>And I heard this great analysis about Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>they said, look, people on the left take him literally

0:59:46.920 --> 0:59:49.920
<v Speaker 1>but not seriously, and people on the right take him

0:59:50.000 --> 0:59:52.960
<v Speaker 1>seriously but not literally. And so yeah, while he literally

0:59:53.080 --> 0:59:56.040
<v Speaker 1>may not be correct, uh, he could not be more

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<v Speaker 1>serious in terms of the issue he raises. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the reality is, and this is one of the things

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<v Speaker 1>I talked about in the book, is that American elections,

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<v Speaker 1>and especially Florida's elections are about as prone to be

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<v Speaker 1>able to ward off attack as the US men's national

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<v Speaker 1>soccer team was today. Right, So that is to say,

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<v Speaker 1>not Ferry, remind me of what happened in the soccer today, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>i'd I'd rather not talk about a raheem three three

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<v Speaker 1>nothing to England, I believe. So, so we know, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we know as poor US as your borders. We we

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<v Speaker 1>know in that illegal ballots were part of the Florida

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<v Speaker 1>vote house because Brenda Snipes the Broward County Supervisor elections

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't keep the illegal ballots separate from the legal ballot,

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<v Speaker 1>they got blended together, and then rather than exclude all

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<v Speaker 1>of them, which wouldn't been a disinfranched mind of a

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<v Speaker 1>large number of legal votes, they just decided to include

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<v Speaker 1>some illegal votes as well. But to Donald Trump's point,

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<v Speaker 1>there were a hundred and eight ballots in Miami Dade

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<v Speaker 1>County that were rejected because they were double vote. That

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<v Speaker 1>is to say, they were they were ballots the second

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<v Speaker 1>ballot cast by someone in that election cycle. Whether that

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<v Speaker 1>means they cast in aptinute ballot and then try to

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<v Speaker 1>show up and vote in person, or they voted in

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<v Speaker 1>one precinct and try to go up and show and

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<v Speaker 1>voted a different precinct, or whatever it was. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have evidence of the wardrobe change, but we

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<v Speaker 1>do know that double voting attempts happened in my inmitate

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<v Speaker 1>this cycle. In my book, I talked about the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that they were overs of double votes in the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Florida alone in sixteen, which is more than four

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<v Speaker 1>times the margin of victory of a presidential election this century. So,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think that there's no doubt that illegal

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<v Speaker 1>voting does occur, and we've seen it firsthand, and so

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I think if people people always often ask me, well,

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<v Speaker 1>what does it what does it mean? What's the solution

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<v Speaker 1>moving forward? I think the good news is that we

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<v Speaker 1>have a president that actually will speak about it and

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<v Speaker 1>will raise the issue, because I think one one takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>from me from this entire process is when you've got

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<v Speaker 1>lawyers involved, and you've got eyes on the ballot and

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<v Speaker 1>eyes on the ground, you see how many different instances

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<v Speaker 1>of shenanigans are are happening. I mean, lawyers for Bill

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<v Speaker 1>Nelson and Andrew Gillham were on the record objecting to

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<v Speaker 1>the exclusion or removal of non citizen votes, which are illegal.

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<v Speaker 1>But yet here are the Democrats say no, those should count.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean, I think it's good that we see

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<v Speaker 1>the reality of what happens in elections laid bare for

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<v Speaker 1>all to see through this process. Whisping with Eric Eggers

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<v Speaker 1>from the Government Accountability Institute. He's gotten book that came

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<v Speaker 1>out this summer. It's called Fraud, How the Left plans

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<v Speaker 1>to steal the next election. I commended to you all, um, Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>in terms of what what Matt Gates said today about

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<v Speaker 1>about this being sort of a warm up Act for

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<v Speaker 1>the Democratic Party. And I was watching CNN earlier today

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<v Speaker 1>because I kind of hate myself, so I like to

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<v Speaker 1>I like the self flagellation and torture of having watching

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<v Speaker 1>the soccer match. Well there you go. Um No, I couldn't.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't revel in the victor in English victory today

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<v Speaker 1>I was. I was had my eyes fixated on that

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<v Speaker 1>and and and the Brexit stuff happening in the UK

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Um. But they were laughing at Matt Gates

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<v Speaker 1>on CNN. They were saying, you know, conspiracy theory, this

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't happen. There's no problem certainly poo pooing the idea

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<v Speaker 1>that any form of lawsuit against you know, from one

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<v Speaker 1>side or the other weren't sort of opportunistic and taking

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<v Speaker 1>their chances and influencing the the end result. But let's

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<v Speaker 1>face it, that is where we are now. So so so,

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<v Speaker 1>how much do you think that Matt Gates was right

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<v Speaker 1>the Democrats are seeing what they can get away with

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<v Speaker 1>or if they always just been this way? Yeah, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know that this is unique. Maybe there If there's

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<v Speaker 1>anything that's unique here, it's the motivation level and this

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<v Speaker 1>belief in the self righteous belief by people on the

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<v Speaker 1>left of the moral authority by which they're operating. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>heading into this election season, you know, nothing less than

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<v Speaker 1>the impeachment of the president and the for the Kavanaugh

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<v Speaker 1>hearings were concluded this idea that hey, we're gonna block

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<v Speaker 1>this Supreme Court justice from being confirmed. Uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna expand healthcare for all, We're gonna abolish ice,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna abolish enforcement of immigration laws. So these are

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<v Speaker 1>all things that are that are not just political positions

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<v Speaker 1>but moral impediment. Uh. You know, So I think, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important to think through the motivation level.

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<v Speaker 1>So if the people believe this strongly and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>trying to make happen, then I think exploiting the very

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<v Speaker 1>real vulnerabilities in American election systems doesn't seem like a stretch.

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<v Speaker 1>You know. The larger point I try to make about

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<v Speaker 1>the incompetence that we've seen in Barrower County, in Palmish Counting,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the word I use. You know, Representative Gates

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<v Speaker 1>I think has speculated as to the legitimacy of the

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<v Speaker 1>eight three thousand ballants and Barrower County that have materialized.

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<v Speaker 1>I've spoken to election experts to say and listen, that's

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<v Speaker 1>just how they're doing it. It's not fraud, it's just incompetence.

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<v Speaker 1>But to me that the point is this, if they're

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<v Speaker 1>this bad at keeping track of and holding and then

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<v Speaker 1>performing a sophisticated mathematical technique known as counting, how bad

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<v Speaker 1>do you think they are at preventing the illegal votes

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<v Speaker 1>from being cast? Especially when you consider Brenda Snipe's track

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<v Speaker 1>record of admitting that she's allowed illegal immigrants and felons

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<v Speaker 1>to vote. And by the way, this is the key

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<v Speaker 1>point where team that she's admitted in previous court cases

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<v Speaker 1>that it's it. It's almost impossible to prevent because these

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<v Speaker 1>voter registration drives, especially ahead of these big elections, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got so many people being registered to vote, and the

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<v Speaker 1>systems just aren't in place to prevent or to to

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<v Speaker 1>perform the level of accuracy and verification to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that people that are registering to vote are the people

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<v Speaker 1>that are actually voting. So the sneering dismissiveness by the

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<v Speaker 1>elite media of people like Matt Gates, I think it's

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<v Speaker 1>important to know this. They think they're right because they've

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<v Speaker 1>been told by groups like the Brennan Center and these

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<v Speaker 1>paid and bought for legal entities the affiliated with George Soros,

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<v Speaker 1>who define voter fraud in the narrowest possible terms. They

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<v Speaker 1>define it only in the underinclusive way of an active

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<v Speaker 1>impersonation by an illegal voter on behalf of a legal voter.

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<v Speaker 1>When I think the reality is that most people wuld

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<v Speaker 1>say anything that devalues the true way to an honest vote.

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<v Speaker 1>That's voter fraud. And a lot of stuff like that happens,

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<v Speaker 1>and the worst part of it is is legal. So

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<v Speaker 1>so I do think that the representive gates is correct

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<v Speaker 1>to foreshadow what's happening. And that's one of the reasons

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<v Speaker 1>why I wrote the book, and I think, unfortunately it's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the reasons why the books doing as well.

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<v Speaker 1>It is because what happened the last week and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, oh, this is actually a real thing and

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<v Speaker 1>this can happen. Um. Eric Igor is the author of Fraud.

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<v Speaker 1>How the left plans till the next lection? Just final

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<v Speaker 1>question for you before we let you go. How how

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<v Speaker 1>come the Voter Fraud Commission, I mean, just what happened

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<v Speaker 1>to that that seemed like such a good idea and

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<v Speaker 1>it just lost its legs. And I know Chris Kobat

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<v Speaker 1>was running for for you know, his own seats. But

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<v Speaker 1>but it seems like the administration got bullied out of

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<v Speaker 1>of of doing that. But that's a that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>word to use, bullied, because they absolutely did. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>there are several issues, one of which was the laws

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<v Speaker 1>that they're written, I think prevented true that it prevented

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<v Speaker 1>the commission from doing the job set up the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you look no further than the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Kobak, the Secretary of State of Kansas, was legally

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<v Speaker 1>prohibited from providing Chris Kobak, the vice chair on the

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<v Speaker 1>Presidential Commission on Election and Ministry Election Integrity, from the

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<v Speaker 1>data that they were requesting. And so when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Kolback decided, well, maybe I'll give myself this data.

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<v Speaker 1>They were sued nineteen times by groups fassilitated with George Soros, Right,

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<v Speaker 1>so they were said they were bullied by lawsuit out

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<v Speaker 1>of existence. But the good news is is that I

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<v Speaker 1>think the motivation to expose and inspect this issue is

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<v Speaker 1>still there. It's just gone to an administrative level, right,

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<v Speaker 1>rather than maybe ministerial if if that's those terms are correct,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what you've got now, Department Home in Security. They're

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<v Speaker 1>taking it seriously. So you've seen people charged in North Carolina.

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<v Speaker 1>You've seen people charged in Texas. So I think I

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<v Speaker 1>think states that decide, listen, we're going to be serious

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<v Speaker 1>about the accuracy and integrity of our elections. They're finding

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<v Speaker 1>people to prosecute, and people are being prosecuted and people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to jail. So we have to leave it there. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm afraid we're up against the break here. We have

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<v Speaker 1>to leave it there. But I'm so glad you could

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<v Speaker 1>join us today. We've got a lot of people being

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<v Speaker 1>very complimentary about the guests on this show today, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so glad you're one of them because it's a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of fantastic information. You can find out more in

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<v Speaker 1>Fraud how the Left plan is still the next election. Eric,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you again. Than This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back after this break.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemam filling

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<v Speaker 1>in for Mr Sexton. We are in the Freedom Part

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<v Speaker 1>in Washington, d C. Coming back to you guys on

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<v Speaker 1>the phone lines now eight four four n eight to

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<v Speaker 1>five eight four D. Buck got Jean in Wisconsin on

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<v Speaker 1>the line. Gene, good evening, Hi, raheem, thanks for taking

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<v Speaker 1>my car. Hey can you hear me? Okay? Absolutely, go

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<v Speaker 1>right ahead. Okay. So here's the thing. I'm nobody, but

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<v Speaker 1>even I can see that this is a swamp issue

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<v Speaker 1>and we have to control the swamp. And so this

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<v Speaker 1>should have been added into the children's book that that

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<v Speaker 1>fellow was talking about earlier. But why why are we

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<v Speaker 1>paying this Brenda Snipes hundred over a hundred hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>fifty hundred seventy five thousand a year to to be

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<v Speaker 1>a mess up? I don't know why we're paying her that.

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<v Speaker 1>Why don't we hire an independent uh in, a bonded

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<v Speaker 1>accounting firm, since that's what they do is count and

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<v Speaker 1>have them administer the the the the voting. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>why do we keep paying the swamp to swamp us?

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<v Speaker 1>You can do me a favor, would you please mention

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<v Speaker 1>this to Buck and and really talk about it, because

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<v Speaker 1>you guys are you know, at a at a higher level,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's it's a very good it's a very good question,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is. It is a very good question I have.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a somewhat of an opinion on this and

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<v Speaker 1>somewhat of an answer on it. There are there are

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of now verification processes um you know, UH scanners,

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<v Speaker 1>lots of things that are being deployed and that you know,

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<v Speaker 1>some of them be trialed and some work and some don't. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them are using external firms to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>this happens. Some again, as you say, are doing it

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<v Speaker 1>with these swamp like creatures in charge of the final audits.

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<v Speaker 1>But I would say this as well, be be very

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<v Speaker 1>careful about what you wish for in this scenario, because

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<v Speaker 1>do remember that a lot of these same sort of

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<v Speaker 1>financial firms and auditing firms and and and those types

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<v Speaker 1>were the same type of people who were responsible for

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<v Speaker 1>the two thousand and eight financial crisis. You know, the

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<v Speaker 1>the the sort of swamp of the finance world is

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<v Speaker 1>very very similar to the swamp of the political world.

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<v Speaker 1>The KPMG recently firing people over ethics breaches. PwC now

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<v Speaker 1>investigating UH ethics breaches and and allegations of fraud under

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<v Speaker 1>its purview. So you know, be be very careful what

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<v Speaker 1>you wish for in that regard, because at least with

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<v Speaker 1>the people like Brenda Snipes, she's known, we can hold

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<v Speaker 1>her two accounts somewhat. We can at least make her

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<v Speaker 1>very very famous for these sorts of failings. But when

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<v Speaker 1>you put the put the elections in the hands of

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<v Speaker 1>sort of you know, faceless auditors behind you know whether

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<v Speaker 1>they're independent or whether their government mandated firms in this regard,

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<v Speaker 1>be very very careful about that, Gene. But I do

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<v Speaker 1>appreciate the call, and I will mention, as you say

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<v Speaker 1>to Buck, that this needs this needs much more in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of in terms of scrutiny. This is Raheem Kasan

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<v Speaker 1>on the Buck Sexton Show, and of the second hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Where does the time go? The phone number eight four

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<v Speaker 1>four eight two five eight four four nine hundred. Buck

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<v Speaker 1>will be right back after this break. Welcome back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casan covering for Buck

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton today. Lots of lots of topics to hit. We've

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<v Speaker 1>hit so many already. At the time always goes very

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<v Speaker 1>very quickly. You think about it all day. You think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be sitting in there for three hours. It's

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<v Speaker 1>going to go really slowly and have loads of time,

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<v Speaker 1>and then before you know it, you're getting unceremoniously turfed

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<v Speaker 1>out of the building and your time's up. You've had

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<v Speaker 1>your shot, and there's just you know, the news cycle,

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<v Speaker 1>especially when when you sort of take an into national

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<v Speaker 1>view of it, is just completely and totally all engulfing.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now, in the last couple of hours, John Kasik

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<v Speaker 1>in New Hampshire saying all options are on the table

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to challenging President Donald J. Trump for

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<v Speaker 1>the White House. Yes, it made me laugh also, but

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<v Speaker 1>it does make you realize that no matter what this

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<v Speaker 1>president does, no matter how good the economy is, where

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<v Speaker 1>he when he's being by partisan doing criminal justice reform,

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<v Speaker 1>when he's sending troops down to the border to defend

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<v Speaker 1>the Nation States sovereignty, when he's giving these tax cuts

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<v Speaker 1>that are very, very popular with the gops donor class.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, nothing is enough for the r n c's establishment.

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<v Speaker 1>Here you have a bought and paid for member of it.

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<v Speaker 1>John Ksik saying that he doesn't know what he's going

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<v Speaker 1>to do yet in twenty he may well run against

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<v Speaker 1>President Trump. In basilic I say, now, in the first

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<v Speaker 1>hour of the show, we did a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>chat about the Brexit maschinnations that are taking place in

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<v Speaker 1>the United Kingdom at the moment, I promised you a

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<v Speaker 1>guest from the UK, the chairman of the oldest conservative

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<v Speaker 1>think tank in the country, got tied up a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit during a speech at Oxford University. But I'm delighted

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<v Speaker 1>to say is joining us now. Ben Harris Quinney joins

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<v Speaker 1>on the line to dissect what exactly took place in

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<v Speaker 1>Britain today. Seems like there was a spate of cabinet

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<v Speaker 1>resignations um and uh and and really leaving the Prime

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<v Speaker 1>Minister a bit high and drying. And and it matters.

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<v Speaker 1>And we get that it matters to you guys over

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<v Speaker 1>here because it matters as to whether or not we

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<v Speaker 1>do a free trade deal with the United States. I mean, remember,

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<v Speaker 1>we may be a small land mass, but we are

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<v Speaker 1>not a small economy. Um. You know, a three trillion

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<v Speaker 1>GDP economy, massive, massive importer from the United States already

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<v Speaker 1>and indeed a massive exporter to the United States, already,

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<v Speaker 1>A G seven country, one of the biggest, and and

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<v Speaker 1>one of the ones that is growing rather than shrinking

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<v Speaker 1>like the Eurozone. Nations are Ben Harris Queeneen, welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the buck Sexton Show. Thank you very much for me.

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<v Speaker 1>So Ben walk us through a little bit of what

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<v Speaker 1>happened today. Was this was this out of the blue?

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<v Speaker 1>Did people see this coming? What are the implications for

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<v Speaker 1>Brexit as a process of the Prime Minister in and

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<v Speaker 1>of herself, um, and indeed for the the fact that

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<v Speaker 1>we were supposed to be Britain was supposed to be

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<v Speaker 1>at the front of the queue according to President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>for one of these trade deals that he is also

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<v Speaker 1>so keen to close. Well, it's it's the Guardian k

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<v Speaker 1>not for Britain leaving the European Union. It's intensely complex.

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<v Speaker 1>But the best way I could describe it to an

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<v Speaker 1>American audience is the situation in the UK is as

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<v Speaker 1>if John Kasik was president, surrounded by Trump supporters. We

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<v Speaker 1>have this bizarre situation with Theresa remained supporter and by

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<v Speaker 1>hook or by crook, ended up as Prime Minister without

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<v Speaker 1>a vote taking place, and she's been essentially delivering a

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<v Speaker 1>version of practice that would keep us in the European Union,

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<v Speaker 1>and the game is finally up. We called for her

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<v Speaker 1>to resign yesterday after canvassing many members of Parliament on

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<v Speaker 1>the issue. And finally British people, as you your listeners

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<v Speaker 1>will have learned with me being in our late or

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<v Speaker 1>always slow to act, but they have finally acted. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>and the true believing Conservatives of the Braxfit support of

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<v Speaker 1>the people in the Conservative Party that would be likely

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<v Speaker 1>to support Donald Trump and a trade deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>United States, have finally taken action, and they've submitted the

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<v Speaker 1>letters of no confidence in Theresa May, and she will

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<v Speaker 1>now face a leadership election which will be something equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>to what Americans would would experience with the primary election,

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<v Speaker 1>except not necessarily before a general election. And all that

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<v Speaker 1>has got to take place before March twenty nine, where

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<v Speaker 1>we are scheduled to leave the European Union, and in

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<v Speaker 1>theory we need all our bucks in a row by then.

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<v Speaker 1>So unfortunately, from Donald Trump's point of view, he's willing

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<v Speaker 1>to put us at the front of the queue, but

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<v Speaker 1>we haven't even arrived at the queue yet. Well, it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds like a bit of a mess. Um. The Conservative

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<v Speaker 1>Party is the party of government in the United Kingdom.

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<v Speaker 1>People should know that it is very very scarcely ever

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<v Speaker 1>conservative in its in its policies, or or in its positions.

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<v Speaker 1>What does it bode for for them? And does this

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<v Speaker 1>mean that you might have a hardline socialist the equivalent

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<v Speaker 1>of you know, the love child of Bernie Sanders and

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<v Speaker 1>Alexander Arcassio Cortez um chap called Jeremy Corbyn who leads

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<v Speaker 1>to the Labor Party. Does it give him an inn

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<v Speaker 1>to the keys to Downing Street? It potentially does. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>There is certainly scenario where by this all leads to

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<v Speaker 1>a general election and if we're putting up candidates of

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<v Speaker 1>the Cannaba Theresa May, then she could certainly lose two

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<v Speaker 1>a figure on love Corbin. Um, it's it's a big

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<v Speaker 1>risk and we didn't call for her resignation likely although

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, we are a conservative organization and the

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<v Speaker 1>Conservative Party really being conservative since stature, so we will

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<v Speaker 1>never have the biggest supporter, but we do we do

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<v Speaker 1>realize that there is a great risk inherent in this.

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<v Speaker 1>But because of how bad her dealer was, and particularly

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<v Speaker 1>because and this will seem very bizarre to Americans, it

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<v Speaker 1>locked us into a deal that, according to the wording

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<v Speaker 1>of it, would not allow Britain to ever ever change

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<v Speaker 1>that deal or pull out of it without the consent

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<v Speaker 1>of the European Union, so we would we would be

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<v Speaker 1>locked to that deal. And I think because of that

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<v Speaker 1>it has been worth taking the risk to force a

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<v Speaker 1>leadership election and get someone in that will give us

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<v Speaker 1>the Brexit deal that the British public voted for. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>let's let's just finally relate this for Americans, because of course,

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of people in this country in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States where I am right now, who who

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<v Speaker 1>understand and who take the view that the Brexit was

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<v Speaker 1>actually part and parcel of President trump selection, that that

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<v Speaker 1>without the June the twenty three vote in two thousand

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<v Speaker 1>and sixteen in the United Kingdom, that a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans saw and and celebrated that they may have not

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<v Speaker 1>had the gumption to get to that ballot box and

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<v Speaker 1>and do what they did that without sort of people

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<v Speaker 1>like Nigel Farage going down to Jackson, Mississippi, to Canvas

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<v Speaker 1>on behalf of President Trump and doing a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the television interviews on the run up to that election

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<v Speaker 1>and communicating with the ordinary Americans as to why they

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<v Speaker 1>were draining the swamp in the UK as well. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, twenty sixteen may have gone very very differently.

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<v Speaker 1>And while Donald is draining the swamp in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>and perhaps not as quickly as a lot of people

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<v Speaker 1>would like, and perhaps that wall isn't being built as

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<v Speaker 1>quickly as a lot of people would like. But while

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<v Speaker 1>at least the victory meant executive authority in the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>it did know such thing in Britain, right, But that's

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely right. I mean both both movements were the movements

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<v Speaker 1>of the people against the establishment, that this throwing off

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<v Speaker 1>of centrist politics and liberalism that has been in spite

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<v Speaker 1>of the people of both America and the United Kingdom

1:20:22.880 --> 1:20:26.760
<v Speaker 1>and against their views and values for so long. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're similar in that sense. But as you say, and

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<v Speaker 1>as Nigel Ferage says upon Donald Trump's selection, the difference

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<v Speaker 1>is that an American revolution can be completed in one

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<v Speaker 1>electoral cycle. In Britain it's next twenty or thirty years,

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<v Speaker 1>and they still don't get it, even after everything that's happened,

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<v Speaker 1>even after the clear message that the British people have

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<v Speaker 1>said that they don't want business as usual, they want

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<v Speaker 1>to get rid of this old, tired and decrepid class

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<v Speaker 1>of politicians. Theresa May is still banging that old drum

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<v Speaker 1>against you know, all of the advice of now the

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<v Speaker 1>entirety of Parliament, including opposition parties. So unfortunately our political

1:21:08.240 --> 1:21:10.680
<v Speaker 1>system is is scrossing. And I'm a great believer in

1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:14.439
<v Speaker 1>the American political system for its faults, because it puts

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<v Speaker 1>the American people in charge. What we're now trying to

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<v Speaker 1>run is a reguard action despite the fact we've already won.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're trying to via other means than direct democracy

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<v Speaker 1>and put pressure to see the decision of the British

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<v Speaker 1>people implemented. And that's been a very hard road over

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<v Speaker 1>the last two years, and I know things like Nigel

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<v Speaker 1>Farage are absolutely beside themselves in the efforts that they've

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<v Speaker 1>existed for for for their entire careers to get to

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<v Speaker 1>this point, only to have defeat potentially um snatched from

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<v Speaker 1>the from the doors of victory, because we want the

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<v Speaker 1>argue that all the people are still in power. Ben

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<v Speaker 1>Harris Queeney, the chairman of the Bow Group, thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for joining us here. I know it's late

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<v Speaker 1>there and you have an early morning flight. UM so

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<v Speaker 1>really grateful. You can find out more about the Bow

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<v Speaker 1>Group at bow Group dot org. I believe is that right?

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<v Speaker 1>That is right? Absolutely so Bow Group dot Org. Ladies

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<v Speaker 1>and gentlemen, thank you again to Ben. The phone lines

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<v Speaker 1>are open eight four four to eight to five, eight

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<v Speaker 1>four four, nine hundred buck. I want to hear from

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<v Speaker 1>many of you in this hour as possible, so get

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<v Speaker 1>on those lines. We're obviously talking about nationalism, national sovereignty.

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<v Speaker 1>The difference between globalism and nationalism, I think escapes a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people. I have been touting my my Daily

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<v Speaker 1>Caller article from yesterday, UM, over and over again across

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<v Speaker 1>this across this three hours show. UM. I you can

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<v Speaker 1>find out my Twitter feed. UM that that what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on in the United Kingdom. What you just heard is

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we tried to obviously to relate it to

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<v Speaker 1>an American audience. I'm not here to try and bore

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<v Speaker 1>you with the politics of foreign countries. But the two movements,

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<v Speaker 1>the Trump movement of the Brexit movement was so inextricably

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<v Speaker 1>linked and and and we share the same values, and

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<v Speaker 1>we share the same wishes for our own nations. UM

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<v Speaker 1>that I think it's it bears repeating, and it bears consideration,

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<v Speaker 1>especially given what happened in the midterm elections. Our movement

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<v Speaker 1>got transfigured from a rebellion from taking back control. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you had make America great again, and we had we

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<v Speaker 1>want our country back. He know, there's there's a sort

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<v Speaker 1>of nationalistic, sovereignistic nostalgia that both of these things we're

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<v Speaker 1>based off and ours got hijacked by the political establishment

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<v Speaker 1>and turned into the precise thing that it was the

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<v Speaker 1>antithesis of. It got turned into a bureaucratic process. It

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<v Speaker 1>got turned into the administrative states plaything. And I fear

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<v Speaker 1>that right now, especially after these mid terms, especially with

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<v Speaker 1>Nancy Pelosi potentially as the House majority leader, that this

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<v Speaker 1>administration's aims and goals are themselves going to be turned

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<v Speaker 1>into a nightmarish, bureaucratic, administrative state like process. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>the thing to consider when comparing and contrasting these two things.

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<v Speaker 1>Our fates are so intrinsically linked that one cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>viewed without the other. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 1>My name is Raheim Kasam. I'm covering for Buck today

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<v Speaker 1>here in Washington, d C. And we're going to be

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<v Speaker 1>right back after this short break. Welcome back to the

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casam fitting in for Buck

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<v Speaker 1>Sexton today. The phone lines are open eight four four

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<v Speaker 1>n eight to five. That's eight four four nine hundred buck.

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<v Speaker 1>When I get some more callers, Steve is in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 1>on the line, now, Steve, good evening, Good evening, how

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<v Speaker 1>are you. Um. One of the weird things about illegal

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<v Speaker 1>immigration that's actually a symptom of a far greater problem.

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<v Speaker 1>What illegal immigration actually does. It's an anarchy way of

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<v Speaker 1>destroying the national sovereignty of nations and getting them to

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<v Speaker 1>into like this guilt trip because they can't think of

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<v Speaker 1>a largical argument against it. It's like guilt tripping people

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<v Speaker 1>into destroying letting their own national sovereignty being destroyed. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>In America there's a classic example of it, because you

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<v Speaker 1>have cities and towns fighting against counties, counties fighting against states,

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<v Speaker 1>states fighting the federal government. It's like anarchy, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>it creates a lot of conflict. But that's the real issue.

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<v Speaker 1>UM I I kind of get frustrated when people talk

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<v Speaker 1>about illegal immigration because that's kind of like a diversion.

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<v Speaker 1>The destruction of national sovereignty is really what worries me. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I completely agree with you, it is. It is just

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<v Speaker 1>a symptom. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of the

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<v Speaker 1>erosion of national sovereignty of borders of the nation state.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I wrote the article I did yesterday. Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>tell me, what is in your opinion the point why

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<v Speaker 1>would anybody want to attack the nation state like that? Well, basically,

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<v Speaker 1>I well it there there's a couple of philosophies. One

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<v Speaker 1>is called social libertarianism. In other words, you can travel

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<v Speaker 1>from city to city, state to state, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>expanded into country to country. It's like an anarchy form

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<v Speaker 1>of uh. Well, and it's also tightened with that open

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<v Speaker 1>border thing. And I think it also dovetails into like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the whole revolutionary aspect of destabilizing nation to

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<v Speaker 1>set it up for a socialist revolution. It's almost like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the indoctrination phase is completely so let's go

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<v Speaker 1>straight into destabilizing the nation and what is it? What

1:27:09.479 --> 1:27:13.360
<v Speaker 1>is the other part of it? Um? That's basically I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just curious. I'm you you sound pretty well read. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of a guy named Uri Besmanoff. He

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<v Speaker 1>was a KGB defector in the eighties, and he basically

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<v Speaker 1>explained to the Sophia strategy for destroying as a four

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<v Speaker 1>step process for destabilizing and destroying a nation start indoctrination.

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<v Speaker 1>I remember, I remember reading about that several years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the it's interesting with with the cultural Marxism,

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<v Speaker 1>with all of that that had happened, and and and frankly,

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<v Speaker 1>as much as we now know about what was going

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<v Speaker 1>on in both the United States and in Western Europe

1:27:48.720 --> 1:27:51.400
<v Speaker 1>in terms of the the the the you know, whether

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<v Speaker 1>it's the LGBT stuff or whether it was the illegal

1:27:53.840 --> 1:27:57.280
<v Speaker 1>immigration stuff, as much as we now know, we still

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<v Speaker 1>have a situation where the ordinary person out there is

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<v Speaker 1>so easily dragged along by the propaganda they get at school,

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<v Speaker 1>the propaganda you see at university, or the propaganda you

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<v Speaker 1>get in the news media. Steve, how do we fix that? Um?

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<v Speaker 1>A little, definitely with education. People have to get over

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<v Speaker 1>their guilt because what happens what the left does is

1:28:16.880 --> 1:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>they'll create an argument, a complex argument. And because a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times when if I don't have a rational

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<v Speaker 1>argument for against something, you know, the tendency is to

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<v Speaker 1>go along with it. But my solution from a United

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<v Speaker 1>States standpoint is to read upon the federalist papers, to

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<v Speaker 1>read upon national sovereignty, read upon the Constitution, and basically,

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<v Speaker 1>we as a nation, we need to refamiliarize ourselves why

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<v Speaker 1>we went from the Articles of Confederation to a strong

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<v Speaker 1>federal government. Absolutely, I completely agree with you. You know, Steve,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a I'm a fellow at a group called the

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<v Speaker 1>Claremont Institute, and the Claremont Institute put out I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>they do all the sorts of publications. They have a

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<v Speaker 1>journal every quarter. And I'll tell you for me, especially

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<v Speaker 1>as somebody from who wasn't born in the United States

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<v Speaker 1>and who didn't even get a cursory education, maybe that

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<v Speaker 1>helps nowadays. I don't know in in US history, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>the Claremont Review of Books is, isn't It's just the

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<v Speaker 1>best source you could possibly imagine for the for the

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<v Speaker 1>as you say, the arguments that came out of the

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<v Speaker 1>Federalist papers and so on and so forth. So I

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<v Speaker 1>commend that to you, and Steve, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 1>for the excellent call. Here this this evening on the

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<v Speaker 1>Buck Sexton Show, we came to work. I know I'm

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<v Speaker 1>not getting asylum because they don't give you asylum for hunger,

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<v Speaker 1>said Carlos Jose Romero, who's on the migrant caravan. That

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<v Speaker 1>is a quote from the Guardian that came out today,

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<v Speaker 1>admitting that This is economic migration, not asylum seekers. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Casa right back

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<v Speaker 1>after this break. Welcome back to the Bucks Sexton Show.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Raheem Casam here filling in for Buck Sexton in

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<v Speaker 1>aided the Freedom Hut this evening, and I intend to

1:30:04.080 --> 1:30:05.439
<v Speaker 1>burn it to the ground when I leave. Now. I

1:30:05.439 --> 1:30:07.680
<v Speaker 1>shouldn't say that. Somebody will take me seriously. Um, the

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<v Speaker 1>phone lines are open eight four four eight two five

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<v Speaker 1>eight four for nine hundred buck. I know we've jumped

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<v Speaker 1>around a bit this evening, but everything is so intertwined

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<v Speaker 1>at the moment, whether it's Jim Acosta on migrant caravans

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<v Speaker 1>or Jim Acosta and CNN suing the White House for

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<v Speaker 1>banning Jim Acosta. Basically, Jim Acosta is the news right now,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what Jim Acosta wanted. Jim Acosta. When Jim

1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Acosta stands up and talks about Jim Acosta, he wants

1:30:38.000 --> 1:30:40.080
<v Speaker 1>us to talk about Jim Acosta. So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 1>Jim Acosta. That's a lot of Jim Acosta. It's too

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<v Speaker 1>much any Jim Acosta Acosta. But there is an interesting

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<v Speaker 1>development in this case. Um, the CEO of the One

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<v Speaker 1>American News Network tweeted out earlier today that they were

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<v Speaker 1>going to file in the CNN versus the White House

1:31:00.920 --> 1:31:06.040
<v Speaker 1>court trial whatever. It is, an amicus brief that is

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<v Speaker 1>a stakeholder submission effectively in favor of the White House.

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<v Speaker 1>And the reason that's interesting is because everyone else, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>including Fox News, has filed an amicus brief in favor

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<v Speaker 1>of CNN. So we have the president of the One

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<v Speaker 1>American News Network joining us on the line now, Charles Herring,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you so much for your time this evening, sir,

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<v Speaker 1>my pleasure. Hey, Charles, tell us you stand out amongst

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<v Speaker 1>the crowd of those supporting CNN in their endeavor to

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<v Speaker 1>litigate one person's access to the White House, because, let's

1:31:46.960 --> 1:31:50.200
<v Speaker 1>face it, CNN has other people with access. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is just again about Jim Acosta himself. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>about the free press as far as I'm concerned. But

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<v Speaker 1>tell us One American News, which I think is fantastic,

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<v Speaker 1>and and I and I go on there with your

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<v Speaker 1>with your great hosts and interviews a lot um. How

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<v Speaker 1>did you come to this decision and what does it mean? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>we came to this decision a long time ago. I've

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<v Speaker 1>been in the briefing room a number of times in

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<v Speaker 1>the back of the briefing room with our reporters sitting

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<v Speaker 1>in the briefing room asking questions, and I've seen just

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<v Speaker 1>too many times where Mr Acosta uh once to grandstand,

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<v Speaker 1>interrupt and continue speaking when other reporters are called upon,

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<v Speaker 1>including our own, and he's hindering other reporters from being

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<v Speaker 1>able to ask meeting for questions. And one thing that

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<v Speaker 1>we all like about the briefing room and what we

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<v Speaker 1>like about a free press is there's diversity and questions

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<v Speaker 1>and that doesn't happen when Jim Acosta wants to grandstand.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I've had a problem with Jim Acosta, one

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<v Speaker 1>specific individual, not CNN, with Jim Acosta himself for his

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<v Speaker 1>lack of professionalism in the briefing room. You know. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>One that I find very interesting is if somebody would

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<v Speaker 1>have said to you or anyone uh, any individual of

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<v Speaker 1>your audience, somebody was in the briefing room interrupting, preventing

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<v Speaker 1>other reporters from asking questions, and you asked, who is

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<v Speaker 1>that person, just about everybody would say Jim Acosta. His

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<v Speaker 1>behavior has been going on for too long, and CNN

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<v Speaker 1>has done nothing about it, and obviously there's a reason

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<v Speaker 1>for that, and we can all speculate that they like

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<v Speaker 1>his behavior, and the White House Correspondence Association has done

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<v Speaker 1>nothing about it, and finally somebody has done something about

1:33:38.600 --> 1:33:42.200
<v Speaker 1>it administration, and it's a big controversy. Frankly, I don't

1:33:42.280 --> 1:33:44.680
<v Speaker 1>understand why it's a controversy. For me, it's a very

1:33:44.760 --> 1:33:49.840
<v Speaker 1>simple issue. He's disruptive, he's unprofessional, He's tying up the

1:33:50.360 --> 1:33:54.840
<v Speaker 1>precious time for other reporters to ask meaningful questions of

1:33:54.960 --> 1:33:57.560
<v Speaker 1>the President of the United States, and something needed to

1:33:57.600 --> 1:34:03.040
<v Speaker 1>be done. So we're supportive of the administration. The the

1:34:03.200 --> 1:34:08.360
<v Speaker 1>White House Correspondence Association that a lot of people don't

1:34:08.360 --> 1:34:13.320
<v Speaker 1>realize how that's constituted. Um It's it's got a board, uh,

1:34:13.520 --> 1:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>and it's people who are taken from across the media pool. Effectively,

1:34:19.640 --> 1:34:25.320
<v Speaker 1>you have Sirius XM's correspondent as the president, ABC's White

1:34:25.360 --> 1:34:30.200
<v Speaker 1>House correspondent as a vice president, NBC's uh senior White

1:34:30.240 --> 1:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>House producer as the secretary. It's the photographer of The

1:34:34.640 --> 1:34:37.160
<v Speaker 1>New York Times as one of the board members, etcetera, etcetera.

1:34:37.680 --> 1:34:41.120
<v Speaker 1>Um is is there real diversity in the White House

1:34:41.200 --> 1:34:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Correspondence Association or do they sort of fit in with

1:34:44.560 --> 1:34:47.599
<v Speaker 1>with the Jim Acosta style of doing things. That's why

1:34:47.680 --> 1:34:51.160
<v Speaker 1>they are broadly supportive of what CNN is doing here. Well,

1:34:51.200 --> 1:34:53.240
<v Speaker 1>a couple of things that I do know. I've been

1:34:53.280 --> 1:34:56.760
<v Speaker 1>speaking with other senior management of other media companies that

1:34:56.920 --> 1:35:00.960
<v Speaker 1>have representatives in the briefing room, and they have chairs

1:35:01.880 --> 1:35:03.960
<v Speaker 1>and I know where they stand, and many of them

1:35:04.160 --> 1:35:08.960
<v Speaker 1>are supportive of the administration's actions. They're disappointed with how

1:35:09.120 --> 1:35:13.920
<v Speaker 1>one reporter has been conducting himself during the briefings. And

1:35:14.000 --> 1:35:17.800
<v Speaker 1>so there is a silent group of individuals of of

1:35:18.040 --> 1:35:23.519
<v Speaker 1>media companies UH that are disappointed and Jim Acosta's behavior. UH.

1:35:23.880 --> 1:35:27.320
<v Speaker 1>Clearly there's an issue with the White House Correspondence Association,

1:35:27.400 --> 1:35:30.040
<v Speaker 1>and we saw that at the dinner this year. UM

1:35:30.920 --> 1:35:35.240
<v Speaker 1>a number of people walked out. Clearly, UH, the board

1:35:35.360 --> 1:35:37.880
<v Speaker 1>is not very diverse, and and look, we're trying to

1:35:37.960 --> 1:35:43.040
<v Speaker 1>work within that organization to increase UH the voices from

1:35:43.160 --> 1:35:46.200
<v Speaker 1>all sides. But occasionally you do need to stand up.

1:35:46.800 --> 1:35:49.200
<v Speaker 1>And I believe in self regulation, and I think it's

1:35:49.240 --> 1:35:53.880
<v Speaker 1>important for media UH senior officials to stand up and

1:35:54.400 --> 1:35:57.479
<v Speaker 1>call other people out when they think there's an issue

1:35:57.760 --> 1:36:00.439
<v Speaker 1>and try to do it in an appropriate manner. And

1:36:00.520 --> 1:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>that's what we're doing here. Look, we don't have any

1:36:03.240 --> 1:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>issue with CNN. We don't have any issue with the

1:36:06.120 --> 1:36:09.639
<v Speaker 1>questions of any reporter. We just want them to conduct

1:36:09.720 --> 1:36:14.759
<v Speaker 1>themselves in a professional manner and most importantly, don't hinder

1:36:14.920 --> 1:36:18.400
<v Speaker 1>other journalists in the room. Frankly, I think that Jim

1:36:18.520 --> 1:36:22.720
<v Speaker 1>thinks his opinion and his comments are more important than

1:36:22.760 --> 1:36:25.479
<v Speaker 1>the other people in the room, and that's problematic for

1:36:26.040 --> 1:36:29.320
<v Speaker 1>freedom of press and as and as we found out today,

1:36:29.760 --> 1:36:31.920
<v Speaker 1>we're speaking with Charles Hearing, the president of the One

1:36:31.960 --> 1:36:35.439
<v Speaker 1>American News Network. As we found out today, Charles often

1:36:35.720 --> 1:36:41.280
<v Speaker 1>very very misleading. Um CNN has broadcast this clip so

1:36:41.400 --> 1:36:45.400
<v Speaker 1>many times now, and it features Jim Acosta saying that

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<v Speaker 1>there are not migrants at the US border, that they're

1:36:48.720 --> 1:36:52.519
<v Speaker 1>not climbing walls at Tijuana, that there aren't thousands of them,

1:36:52.560 --> 1:36:54.840
<v Speaker 1>that there are only hundreds of them, and that they're

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<v Speaker 1>eligible for asylum, and that they're all mothers and children.

1:36:58.160 --> 1:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>And and we've we've a lot of us have known

1:37:01.080 --> 1:37:02.639
<v Speaker 1>this for a long time that that was not true.

1:37:02.920 --> 1:37:05.560
<v Speaker 1>But the video came out yesterday and it showed the

1:37:06.280 --> 1:37:11.400
<v Speaker 1>very significant number in excess of I'm told and now

1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:14.720
<v Speaker 1>at the US border and are climbing that border and

1:37:14.920 --> 1:37:18.000
<v Speaker 1>are breaching the rules and know that they're not eligible

1:37:18.360 --> 1:37:22.280
<v Speaker 1>for asylum and one to get in and disappear. And

1:37:22.439 --> 1:37:27.920
<v Speaker 1>so the whole banana apple uh standard the CNN set

1:37:27.960 --> 1:37:29.920
<v Speaker 1>up for themselves. And if you guys haven't seen it,

1:37:29.960 --> 1:37:31.360
<v Speaker 1>I think I think I'm right in saying that one

1:37:31.360 --> 1:37:33.320
<v Speaker 1>American News has a funny parody of that on on

1:37:33.439 --> 1:37:37.200
<v Speaker 1>your guys YouTube channel. Um, you know that that is

1:37:37.280 --> 1:37:40.280
<v Speaker 1>also of of grave concern because they're the ones, are

1:37:40.320 --> 1:37:42.559
<v Speaker 1>they not who are pointing the fingers at President Trump

1:37:42.600 --> 1:37:45.679
<v Speaker 1>every day and screaming liar, liar, pants on fire. Meanwhile,

1:37:45.800 --> 1:37:49.920
<v Speaker 1>the most famous clip probably over the last year, which

1:37:50.040 --> 1:37:52.280
<v Speaker 1>is that one of Jim Acosta trying to tell President

1:37:52.320 --> 1:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Trump off, turns out to be fake news. Well what's

1:37:56.040 --> 1:37:58.840
<v Speaker 1>clear is that viewers just look around and they do.

1:37:58.960 --> 1:38:01.880
<v Speaker 1>They're very very smart, and they go to multiple sources

1:38:02.000 --> 1:38:05.200
<v Speaker 1>for their news, and they'll see the red pickup trucks

1:38:06.200 --> 1:38:09.720
<v Speaker 1>and the young gentleman after young gentlemen getting in and

1:38:09.760 --> 1:38:12.880
<v Speaker 1>there are no families, it's all men. So we know

1:38:14.040 --> 1:38:17.479
<v Speaker 1>why they're coming up. They've been interviewed by numerous people,

1:38:17.560 --> 1:38:20.760
<v Speaker 1>including our own reporters, and we know that it's for

1:38:20.880 --> 1:38:24.320
<v Speaker 1>economic reasons. A vast majority, and we know a vast

1:38:24.479 --> 1:38:27.280
<v Speaker 1>majority are young men. Matter of fact, it's very difficult

1:38:27.320 --> 1:38:30.400
<v Speaker 1>to find families. We know that other journalists know that,

1:38:30.479 --> 1:38:33.559
<v Speaker 1>and it's been broadly reported. So if one media outlet

1:38:33.640 --> 1:38:36.920
<v Speaker 1>wants to distort the facts, they can do that. That's

1:38:37.000 --> 1:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>that we don't have a problem with that. Viewers can

1:38:39.280 --> 1:38:42.080
<v Speaker 1>decide and they're smart enough to figure out that there's

1:38:42.120 --> 1:38:46.120
<v Speaker 1>other sources for legitimate news. And I do believe and

1:38:46.160 --> 1:38:48.680
<v Speaker 1>I do the same thing that viewers bounce around. They

1:38:48.760 --> 1:38:51.839
<v Speaker 1>go from TV channel to channel, they go onto the internet,

1:38:51.960 --> 1:38:54.439
<v Speaker 1>they talk with friends, and they'll figure it out. We

1:38:54.600 --> 1:38:58.639
<v Speaker 1>happen to have offices in San Diego, California, and today

1:38:58.680 --> 1:39:00.920
<v Speaker 1>we had people down on the border, and I can

1:39:01.000 --> 1:39:03.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you that there's a lot of people right up

1:39:03.280 --> 1:39:06.479
<v Speaker 1>against the fence, crawling up on the fence, and we

1:39:06.520 --> 1:39:09.840
<v Speaker 1>have the United States military and we have border enforcement

1:39:10.240 --> 1:39:12.960
<v Speaker 1>on the other side trying to figure out what they're doing,

1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>what their game plan is, and where they're going with this.

1:39:16.160 --> 1:39:19.680
<v Speaker 1>And there's another print media that's making it clear that

1:39:19.840 --> 1:39:23.759
<v Speaker 1>more buses are going to be unloaded with two thousand

1:39:23.840 --> 1:39:27.720
<v Speaker 1>people either tonight or in the morning. So they're amassing

1:39:28.320 --> 1:39:32.000
<v Speaker 1>on the border in Tijuana. And what their plans are

1:39:32.240 --> 1:39:35.040
<v Speaker 1>we don't know, so we'll we'll figure it out and

1:39:35.280 --> 1:39:37.639
<v Speaker 1>your viewers will figure it out. Also, they're smart enough

1:39:37.720 --> 1:39:39.880
<v Speaker 1>to to look around at the media sources and they

1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:42.519
<v Speaker 1>don't need to rely just on one media source such

1:39:42.520 --> 1:39:45.600
<v Speaker 1>as CNN. Well, what I really like about what what

1:39:45.760 --> 1:39:49.240
<v Speaker 1>One America does is, uh, you know, it's dedicated to

1:39:49.360 --> 1:39:53.960
<v Speaker 1>news actually news reports um rather than ours and upon

1:39:54.040 --> 1:39:57.000
<v Speaker 1>hours of opinion based programming and this room for that.

1:39:57.800 --> 1:39:59.920
<v Speaker 1>But but what I really like about about One of

1:40:00.040 --> 1:40:03.040
<v Speaker 1>Erican News, Charles, is the is the commitment um to

1:40:03.320 --> 1:40:06.519
<v Speaker 1>two real reports about what's really going on. And and

1:40:06.640 --> 1:40:09.679
<v Speaker 1>as much as a lot of your colleagues and staff

1:40:09.720 --> 1:40:12.400
<v Speaker 1>are I consider friends, they never give me an easy

1:40:12.479 --> 1:40:14.720
<v Speaker 1>ride when they're interviewing me. It's always it's always with

1:40:14.760 --> 1:40:16.920
<v Speaker 1>a straight bat. So kudos to you guys in your

1:40:17.080 --> 1:40:19.280
<v Speaker 1>organization for doing what you do. Charles Hearing, the president

1:40:19.600 --> 1:40:21.639
<v Speaker 1>of the One American News Network, thank you for joining

1:40:21.720 --> 1:40:25.559
<v Speaker 1>us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you. Well,

1:40:25.600 --> 1:40:28.519
<v Speaker 1>there you go, ladies and gentlemen, the the only news

1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>network right now standing up to Jim Acosta and standing

1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:36.120
<v Speaker 1>up to see an end's lawsuit against the White House. Um,

1:40:36.360 --> 1:40:39.720
<v Speaker 1>so you know, by all means, if you are in

1:40:39.800 --> 1:40:42.160
<v Speaker 1>preston in favor of that, go ahead and uh and

1:40:42.320 --> 1:40:45.400
<v Speaker 1>and give them your support in the form of Twitter

1:40:45.479 --> 1:40:48.080
<v Speaker 1>follows and and and network views and so on and

1:40:48.160 --> 1:40:50.320
<v Speaker 1>so forth, because I can't. I can't commend them enough

1:40:50.960 --> 1:40:53.840
<v Speaker 1>for the brave decision that they've taken in standing up

1:40:53.880 --> 1:40:56.640
<v Speaker 1>to that chap. And I I know the frustration of

1:40:56.760 --> 1:40:59.760
<v Speaker 1>not being called upon in a room full of journalists

1:41:00.520 --> 1:41:05.680
<v Speaker 1>because there is some hoity toity bigger fish in the

1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:07.960
<v Speaker 1>room who wants to flounce around like a diva for

1:41:08.000 --> 1:41:12.200
<v Speaker 1>the cameras. I've seen it happen. I've been in my

1:41:12.400 --> 1:41:16.160
<v Speaker 1>fair share of press briefings all over the world, in fact,

1:41:17.000 --> 1:41:19.040
<v Speaker 1>and and you know, those of us who have worked

1:41:19.120 --> 1:41:23.840
<v Speaker 1>for smaller organizations or less well known organizations or alternative

1:41:23.880 --> 1:41:29.519
<v Speaker 1>news networks have problems asking questions that I think actually

1:41:29.560 --> 1:41:32.200
<v Speaker 1>more interesting. You know that I think aren't just oh,

1:41:32.439 --> 1:41:36.240
<v Speaker 1>Mrs Clinton, how come you so beautiful today? You know,

1:41:36.680 --> 1:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>Mr Obama, what makes you so brilliant, Please share it

1:41:40.200 --> 1:41:42.000
<v Speaker 1>with us. You know, some of us actually want to

1:41:42.080 --> 1:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>ask hard, interesting pressing questions about things, and the likes

1:41:46.960 --> 1:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>of Jim Acosta just just dominate, you know, the room,

1:41:51.960 --> 1:41:55.280
<v Speaker 1>dominate the time. Um, and that is not I mean,

1:41:55.360 --> 1:41:59.400
<v Speaker 1>he is impeding press freedom more so than President Trump

1:41:59.600 --> 1:42:04.479
<v Speaker 1>or the illustration, as far as I'm concerned is. And

1:42:04.600 --> 1:42:07.200
<v Speaker 1>that's why I wanted to to bring on Charles Herring

1:42:07.240 --> 1:42:10.080
<v Speaker 1>from the One American News Network too to talk to

1:42:10.200 --> 1:42:13.760
<v Speaker 1>us about what what O a N is doing. I

1:42:13.840 --> 1:42:16.000
<v Speaker 1>know more and more people are watching O A N

1:42:16.120 --> 1:42:19.560
<v Speaker 1>now as well. We had a film that I was

1:42:20.320 --> 1:42:24.439
<v Speaker 1>a part of called Trump at War and O E N.

1:42:24.479 --> 1:42:27.320
<v Speaker 1>We're the first outlet to to run the whole film,

1:42:28.040 --> 1:42:30.439
<v Speaker 1>uh there before the before the midterm elections, sort of

1:42:30.680 --> 1:42:34.639
<v Speaker 1>setting out the stall of the midterm elections. Very interesting film. Indeed,

1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:39.760
<v Speaker 1>you can still catch it um online on YouTube. Yeah,

1:42:39.800 --> 1:42:41.559
<v Speaker 1>and I think it was on Western journal and Western

1:42:41.640 --> 1:42:45.360
<v Speaker 1>Journalism as well. UM. Alright, the phone line is still open, ladies, gentlemen,

1:42:45.439 --> 1:42:48.720
<v Speaker 1>eight to five. We're gonna go to a quick break now.

1:42:48.800 --> 1:42:52.120
<v Speaker 1>When we come back, UM, hopefully more of your calls

1:42:52.960 --> 1:42:55.160
<v Speaker 1>and a couple of things to wrap up. But we're

1:42:55.200 --> 1:42:56.760
<v Speaker 1>coming to the end of the show, which is the

1:42:56.880 --> 1:42:59.519
<v Speaker 1>saddest time for me, mostly because I love the sound

1:42:59.560 --> 1:43:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of my own voice, but also, I mean, really, there

1:43:03.320 --> 1:43:05.160
<v Speaker 1>is so much news, and for a nerd like me,

1:43:06.120 --> 1:43:08.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, more news the better. We'll be right back

1:43:08.920 --> 1:43:11.599
<v Speaker 1>here on the Buck Sexton Show after this short break

1:43:12.479 --> 1:43:17.519
<v Speaker 1>coments here this evening. Marahem Kasa been your fill in

1:43:17.640 --> 1:43:20.920
<v Speaker 1>host for today. I always like to get my thanks

1:43:21.479 --> 1:43:24.879
<v Speaker 1>out of the way early in this last slot because otherwise,

1:43:25.240 --> 1:43:27.800
<v Speaker 1>as the end draws closer and I try and fit

1:43:27.880 --> 1:43:30.360
<v Speaker 1>in more and more, I tend to forget. So I

1:43:30.439 --> 1:43:32.560
<v Speaker 1>want to just thank the the excellent producers of this

1:43:32.640 --> 1:43:36.640
<v Speaker 1>show for all their help today. Also, I hope you

1:43:36.680 --> 1:43:39.360
<v Speaker 1>agree with me, the excellent guests we've had on over

1:43:39.439 --> 1:43:41.280
<v Speaker 1>the course of the show, and of course you guys,

1:43:41.360 --> 1:43:47.400
<v Speaker 1>the callers, the listeners most importantly, because what's the point.

1:43:47.479 --> 1:43:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Otherwise I just be talking to myself. I could be

1:43:50.040 --> 1:43:52.360
<v Speaker 1>staring in a mirror and talking to myself, which you

1:43:52.439 --> 1:43:55.000
<v Speaker 1>know I am prone to do from time to time.

1:43:55.640 --> 1:43:58.320
<v Speaker 1>But I'm glad tonight wasn't one of them. Just a

1:43:58.400 --> 1:44:02.920
<v Speaker 1>couple of things too was on tonight, as We've covered

1:44:02.920 --> 1:44:06.960
<v Speaker 1>a lot, covered a lot of the voting fraud, a

1:44:07.040 --> 1:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>lot of the gym Acosta stuff, Brexit. Gosh, think about

1:44:10.000 --> 1:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>all the topics we've taken on today. Turns out Florida

1:44:14.120 --> 1:44:19.000
<v Speaker 1>is now not going to use Browward County's recount tally

1:44:20.280 --> 1:44:25.120
<v Speaker 1>after all of this, because it was uploaded two minutes

1:44:25.840 --> 1:44:32.800
<v Speaker 1>past the three pm Thursday deadline. So, after all the

1:44:33.000 --> 1:44:37.360
<v Speaker 1>cost and the expense and the agony for the voters

1:44:37.400 --> 1:44:40.960
<v Speaker 1>of Florida, I'm gonna end up using those uh, those

1:44:41.040 --> 1:44:45.799
<v Speaker 1>recount totals anyway, A testament so how brilliant Brenda Snipes

1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and the Democrats down there really are. And yet and yet,

1:44:53.200 --> 1:44:56.519
<v Speaker 1>ladies and gentlemen, there are states, there are areas, There

1:44:56.560 --> 1:45:01.000
<v Speaker 1>are counties. There are regions that our turning purple, even

1:45:01.200 --> 1:45:07.200
<v Speaker 1>under this president, even under this economy, places turning purple.

1:45:08.560 --> 1:45:15.320
<v Speaker 1>Arizona springing to mind, what is going on? What is

1:45:15.439 --> 1:45:21.519
<v Speaker 1>with people's lack of logic, lack of brain power? How

1:45:21.600 --> 1:45:24.200
<v Speaker 1>are they still voting for the crooked Democrats of this

1:45:24.320 --> 1:45:27.559
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know. I I gotta go down there,

1:45:27.640 --> 1:45:29.240
<v Speaker 1>I think and figure it out. You know, I'm a

1:45:29.280 --> 1:45:31.559
<v Speaker 1>big fan of Arizona. Prescott is a is a big

1:45:31.640 --> 1:45:34.439
<v Speaker 1>favorite of mine. Um, so maybe I'll take a trip

1:45:34.520 --> 1:45:36.840
<v Speaker 1>down there and start to figure some of this stuff out,

1:45:36.880 --> 1:45:40.040
<v Speaker 1>because it really baffles me. I wanted to pick up

1:45:40.080 --> 1:45:42.320
<v Speaker 1>on something that Eric Aga said earlier on as well

1:45:42.439 --> 1:45:44.840
<v Speaker 1>that we didn't get to get into, but I thought

1:45:44.920 --> 1:45:47.920
<v Speaker 1>was a particularly a stoop point, mostly because I've been

1:45:47.960 --> 1:45:51.200
<v Speaker 1>making it for a while. Um, it's that the left

1:45:51.240 --> 1:45:56.960
<v Speaker 1>take Trump literally but not seriously, and the right take

1:45:57.040 --> 1:46:01.760
<v Speaker 1>Trump seriously but not literally. Think about that. There is

1:46:01.840 --> 1:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>something in the right wing mind at the moment, the

1:46:05.120 --> 1:46:10.240
<v Speaker 1>conservative mind at the moment, that tends towards irony. The

1:46:10.360 --> 1:46:13.639
<v Speaker 1>left used to love irony, remember George Carlin, Bill Mars

1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:16.200
<v Speaker 1>still has a sense of irony, but more or less

1:46:16.240 --> 1:46:19.519
<v Speaker 1>the rest of them let it go. Their literalists. They

1:46:19.600 --> 1:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>believe everything literally, They take everything at face value. They

1:46:22.439 --> 1:46:26.960
<v Speaker 1>don't question, they don't ask, they're not curious. That's a

1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:29.840
<v Speaker 1>great pity for them, but it's incumbent upon us. And

1:46:29.920 --> 1:46:32.240
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that Eric Metaxas, who we had earlier on today,

1:46:32.320 --> 1:46:34.720
<v Speaker 1>does things like makes the books for the kids. The

1:46:34.840 --> 1:46:39.240
<v Speaker 1>cultural war, the war for your heart as well as

1:46:39.320 --> 1:46:43.439
<v Speaker 1>your mind, is raging right now, and Buck Sexton will

1:46:43.439 --> 1:46:47.840
<v Speaker 1>be back to captain you again tomorrow. I've been Rehem Kassam,

1:46:47.880 --> 1:46:49.679
<v Speaker 1>you've been great. Have a great evening.