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Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins. Now, Welcome to the Bucks Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: You probably already guessed. I am not Buck Sexton. My
Speaker 1: name is Rahem Kasam. I am filling in for Buck today,
Speaker 1: broadcasting live out of the Freedom Hut here in Washington,
Speaker 1: d C. A slushy, slimy, gross and rainy Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: A very good evening or good afternoon to all of
Speaker 1: you out there. We have a very great show for
Speaker 1: you today. Breaches on the border just just a couple
Speaker 1: of days after CNN's Jim Acosta, remember was lecturing the
Speaker 1: President of the United States in a press conference, saying
Speaker 1: they're not jumping over the borders, they're thousands of miles away. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: border security has nabbed six hundred and fifty migrants just
Speaker 1: two hours outside. We've seen video of people jumping over
Speaker 1: fences and being apprehended by border security. We've got a
Speaker 1: lot of things to discuss today. It's been a busy
Speaker 1: day all around the world, and I'm glad to say
Speaker 1: we have some of the best experts from around the
Speaker 1: world to talk about the new the very busy news
Speaker 1: cycle of the day. One of the things that I've
Speaker 1: been focusing on has been Brexit. Of course, for those
Speaker 1: of you that don't know me, I was the former
Speaker 1: senior adviser to Mr Brexit himself, Nigel Farage. And because
Speaker 1: it's very late in the evening in in the United
Speaker 1: Kingdom and so much has been going on there, we're
Speaker 1: going to start the show on that. I know breaks.
Speaker 1: It means a lot to a lot of you guys
Speaker 1: out there here in the United States as well. I
Speaker 1: know you all know what happened on that June two
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, just a few months before you elected
Speaker 1: President Trump as the outsider candidate, we did something quite
Speaker 1: outlandish too, which was voting to leave. Seventeen and a
Speaker 1: half million people, the largest ever showing for one side
Speaker 1: in a national election, voted to leave the European Union.
Speaker 1: We said, we've had enough of the bureaucrats, of the commissioners,
Speaker 1: of the lack of democracy. We've had enough of paying
Speaker 1: billions upon billions of our finest English pounds into the
Speaker 1: coffers of an organization that wants its own military force.
Speaker 1: Now that tells us what of our primary legislation and
Speaker 1: our regulations look like. Does it sound familiar to you,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Does in it sound just like what
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was talking about a few years ago when
Speaker 1: she called the Trans Pacific Partnership Deal and the Transatlantic
Speaker 1: Trade and Investment Partnership Deal, replete with its commissioners and
Speaker 1: unaccountable civil servants. She called it the gold standard of
Speaker 1: trade deals. Well, i'll tell you what, Thank goodness, President
Speaker 1: Trump won, because you'd be entering your own sort of
Speaker 1: European Union style trade organization right now, just at the
Speaker 1: moment that we're trying to get out. But what happened
Speaker 1: in the UK today was quite extraordinary, one of the
Speaker 1: most critical things to happen since that June three vote.
Speaker 1: The Prime Minister a remainder somebody who wanted us to
Speaker 1: stay in the European Union. She announced the deal that
Speaker 1: she had done with the EU today and it is
Speaker 1: no such thing like leaving. Let me tell you, the
Speaker 1: United Kingdom would remain under the European Court of Justice.
Speaker 1: Per view, we'd end up paying forty billion pounds into
Speaker 1: their pot. Again, we'd have no control over our borders,
Speaker 1: we'd have no control over our trade deals. That that
Speaker 1: thing that President Trump said, Remember he said after Obama
Speaker 1: said Britain will go to the back of the queue
Speaker 1: for a trade deal, he said, no, Britain will go
Speaker 1: to the front of the queue for a trade deal.
Speaker 1: The front of the line for a trade deal. And
Speaker 1: that's off the table. Under this deal proposed by Theresa May,
Speaker 1: the Prime Minister, that would no longer happen because we'd
Speaker 1: still be within the confines of the euse laws of
Speaker 1: the e use trade agreements. And it's unacceptable. It's so
Speaker 1: unacceptable that today you had five cabinet ministers resigned in
Speaker 1: one day. Can you imagine if five cabinet ministers resigned
Speaker 1: from President Trump's cabinet in one day. I mean, jimber
Speaker 1: Costa would be running around White House, or rather outside
Speaker 1: the White House, running around like a headless chicken, saying
Speaker 1: this president must go, This president no longer has the
Speaker 1: confidence of his own government, his own administration. Well, in
Speaker 1: a sense that's true of Theresa May, but she indicated
Speaker 1: this afternoon that she has no intention to go. Instead,
Speaker 1: she intends to continue on with this horrific deal that
Speaker 1: she struck with the European Union. I want to check
Speaker 1: if we've got our first guest on the line. We're
Speaker 1: waiting for a good a good friend of mine. He's
Speaker 1: going to be joining us, hopefully in the next few minutes.
Speaker 1: His name is Ben Harris Quinney. He's the chairman of
Speaker 1: the oldest conservative think tank in the United Kingdom, and
Speaker 1: he's just finished speaking at Oxford University, where he had
Speaker 1: taken over a slot for Graham Brady. Now let me
Speaker 1: tell you about Graham Brady. And I understand this sounds
Speaker 1: like sort of insular foreign politics to you guys, but
Speaker 1: we share the same thing right now in our sort
Speaker 1: of rebellious ah takeovers of the establishment, the drainings of
Speaker 1: the swamps across the Atlantic. I'll tell you why this guy,
Speaker 1: Graham Brady is important. He's a member of Parliament. And
Speaker 1: if the Conservative Party, which is the party of government
Speaker 1: in the UK, if they want to lose Theresa May
Speaker 1: as Prime Minister, which I suggest they should, then Graham
Speaker 1: Brady is the one they have to write to. He's
Speaker 1: the head of the two Committee. And if he gets
Speaker 1: forty eight letters, let's say we want her gone from
Speaker 1: forty eight Conservative members of Parliament, then there has to
Speaker 1: be a vote of no confidence as the Prime Minister,
Speaker 1: and the rumor is that they're awfully close to getting there.
Speaker 1: So you know, the UK on tenter hooks at the moment,
Speaker 1: not really knowing where it's going. The markets obviously responding
Speaker 1: in kind, uh, the pound dropping, stocks dropping, and all
Speaker 1: because our rubbish, rubbish prime minister, who shouldn't have even
Speaker 1: been there in the first place, because Exit one and
Speaker 1: the Conservative Party put a remainder, a non lever into
Speaker 1: number ten Downing Street. This is all on her. So there,
Speaker 1: there we have it. We're waiting for our first guest,
Speaker 1: but in the meantime we'll also be will also be
Speaker 1: taking some of your calls over the course of this program. Um,
Speaker 1: I want to make sure that you guys are getting
Speaker 1: your views across on all sorts of things that we're
Speaker 1: going to be discussing. Today. We're going to be speaking
Speaker 1: with Eric Metaxes, the author of a brand new book,
Speaker 1: Donald Drains the Swamp. He'll be joining us a little
Speaker 1: bit later in this hour. Jessica Vaughan from the Center
Speaker 1: of Immigration Studies were joining us to talk about this
Speaker 1: migrant caravan that we were told it was not a thing,
Speaker 1: was not going to happen, that they that they were
Speaker 1: not in fact, in fact, why don't we can we
Speaker 1: can we play that clip of Jim Acosta from a
Speaker 1: couple of days ago, clip number three campaign had But
Speaker 1: your campaign had an ad showing migrants climbing over walls
Speaker 1: and so on. But they weren't actor not going to
Speaker 1: be doing they weren't actors. Well, no, it's true. Do
Speaker 1: you think they were actors. They weren't actives, They didn't
Speaker 1: come from Hollywood, but these were these were people. This
Speaker 1: was an actual you know, it happened a few days ago,
Speaker 1: and they're hundreds of miles away. Though they're hundreds and
Speaker 1: hundreds of miles not animation. Honestly, I think you should
Speaker 1: let me run the country. It's not gonna happen. They're
Speaker 1: not going to be doing that. The words of CNN
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta, who I suppose presumed he had some sort
Speaker 1: of premonition. Did it come to him in a dream,
Speaker 1: The migrants were not going to be climbing over the border.
Speaker 1: We've seen it going on. We saw the footage come
Speaker 1: out yesterday. Oh and don't think I don't think just
Speaker 1: because we're focused on the news cycle of the moment
Speaker 1: that we're going to forget about what came out last night, right,
Speaker 1: did you will pay attention? We all looking at your
Speaker 1: cellular devices when the breaking news came out that Michael Abanati,
Speaker 1: the creepy pawn lawyer, was arrested by the l a
Speaker 1: p D after the allegation that he had beat or
Speaker 1: punched his wife, Michael Abanati. And the reason I segue
Speaker 1: into Michael Abanati is because you have Jim Acosta of CNN,
Speaker 1: who's lecturing the President last week, putting his hands on
Speaker 1: a White House intern. Now you can argue one way
Speaker 1: or the other that you know he wasn't aggressive with it,
Speaker 1: or it wasn't affirm enough gesture for you, or whatever
Speaker 1: the excuses that they're coming up with, but he put
Speaker 1: his hand on a young female intern in the White House.
Speaker 1: And on the flip side, I mean, who's who's CNN's
Speaker 1: favorite get right now, Who's CNN been pumping up for
Speaker 1: the last few months every night every show. Michael L. Abanati,
Speaker 1: the expert in sexual harassment. He had claims about Brett Kavanagh,
Speaker 1: he had claims about Donald Trump. Meanwhile, Michael Abanati himself
Speaker 1: a man who just a few weeks ago took to
Speaker 1: Twitter to body shame of conservative female journalist Laura Looma,
Speaker 1: tweeting a picture of her that I guess he thought
Speaker 1: was less than flattering. This is the guy who CNN
Speaker 1: is held up and he was arrested last night, and
Speaker 1: we're going to find out he he maintains that he's innocent.
Speaker 1: There is a There is a hole to do about that,
Speaker 1: lots to think about there. It just strikes me that
Speaker 1: there is so much in the way of I guess
Speaker 1: what the psychoanalysts call projection from the left right every
Speaker 1: time they point the fingers about something. And I was
Speaker 1: watching CNN today and they were laughing. They were laughing
Speaker 1: because Matt gatesdown in Florida said that the voter fraud
Speaker 1: that he believes maybe taking place down there is a
Speaker 1: sort of dress rehearsal, a warm up act for the
Speaker 1: election cycle. And the CNN anchors and the guests slapping
Speaker 1: each other on the backs and laughing they a conspiracy theory.
Speaker 1: Remember that he's a The guys who for the last
Speaker 1: two years plus have been saying, yeah, these Russian like
Speaker 1: Facebook bots, they colluded with the Trump Tower folks, and
Speaker 1: they forced Americans to the ballot box with a I
Speaker 1: don't know collashnik after the head and forced them to
Speaker 1: vote for Donald Trump for president. About evidence, there's been
Speaker 1: no collusion evidence, there's been nothing. This investigation that's gone
Speaker 1: on for what two years and cost I don't know,
Speaker 1: forty million dollars. I think I saw the Mueller probe,
Speaker 1: which Trump took to Twitter again to lambast today. But
Speaker 1: these guys will laugh at Matt Gates for saying, hold
Speaker 1: on a second. How come Broward County and Palm Beach
Speaker 1: County take a week plus to count their votes? How
Speaker 1: come we're going to hand recounts? Now? This is the
Speaker 1: stuff that doesn't even happen in third world countries, in
Speaker 1: in in in places where you still dip your finger
Speaker 1: in ink to vote. There are places around the world
Speaker 1: that haven't had the democratic process for very long, and
Speaker 1: this stuff doesn't happen there. But it happens in democratic
Speaker 1: controlled districts. Really quite a lot, doesn't it. We're gonna
Speaker 1: be talking to Eric Eager's he's the author of a
Speaker 1: new book called Fraud. They'll be joining us a little
Speaker 1: bit later as well, I'm pleased to say that will
Speaker 1: also be joined by two of One American News, one
Speaker 1: of the better cable news channels out there, two of
Speaker 1: their folks. Later on in the show, Charles Herring is
Speaker 1: the president of the organization. We're gonna talk to him
Speaker 1: about how One America is the only news outlet at
Speaker 1: the moment that is in opposition to CNN in its
Speaker 1: case against the White House, the Jim Acosta is hard
Speaker 1: pass being revoked and Jim Acosta being banned. Even Fox News,
Speaker 1: which I like. I have friends who have Fox News
Speaker 1: hosts and anchors, lots of them in fact, but even
Speaker 1: Fox News I think, are taking Jim Acosta side and
Speaker 1: all of this. And we'll also talk to Gabrielle Ccilla.
Speaker 1: She's been down in Florida for O a n and
Speaker 1: she's going to tell us what what she's seen over
Speaker 1: the last couple of the last couple of well the
Speaker 1: last week there. In the meantime, this is Raheem Kassam
Speaker 1: on The Buck Sexton Show broadcasting Life from the Freedom Hut.
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna take a quick break now and
Speaker 1: hopefully when we come back, we'll have Ben Harris Quinny
Speaker 1: who is uh the chairman of the Bow Group, the
Speaker 1: UK's oldest conservative thing tanket tell us a little bit
Speaker 1: more about what's going with that with that Breakxit vote,
Speaker 1: But stay tuned right here to the Buck Sexton Show.
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Speaker 1: a consistent basis. If it was up to me, which
Speaker 1: is not, I would indict the president. I'm gonna put
Speaker 1: Donald Trump on trial. I think the President will not
Speaker 1: serve out his term. Are you trying to win a
Speaker 1: case or takedown a president? This is a search for
Speaker 1: the truth. This president has had his eye off the
Speaker 1: ball now, basically from day one. I don't think the
Speaker 1: President wants to sit across the conference room table from
Speaker 1: me and answer questions under earth. But if he does,
Speaker 1: perhaps we can do it this afternoon. You are something
Speaker 1: of a folk hero. Now we wait until we actually
Speaker 1: accomplished something in the coming months. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Freedom Heart. This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm rahim
Speaker 1: because I'm fulling in for Buck Sexton. This cold, icy, slushy,
Speaker 1: snowy Thursday evening here in Washington, d C. That was
Speaker 1: I suppose the Michael Abanati super cut A folk hero,
Speaker 1: said Bill Maher. That was Bill Maher's voice. I think
Speaker 1: a folk hero. Michael Labanati, the attorney the porn star
Speaker 1: Stormy Daniels, and, as NBC News describes him, one of
Speaker 1: President Donald Trump's chief antagonists, arrested on suspicion of felony
Speaker 1: domestic abuse. The l A p D. I believe confirmed
Speaker 1: in a tweet yesterday evening. This is the person who's
Speaker 1: been held up for us, for to us for a
Speaker 1: very long time. Now, Remember Michael Labanati was beyond reproach.
Speaker 1: He said, which women we had to believe? So we
Speaker 1: had to believe those women. Well, you know what I think.
Speaker 1: I think that I am going to start believing all women.
Speaker 1: Now I'm going to start with Michael Abanati's wife. That's
Speaker 1: where we should start. Now, let's let's give him the
Speaker 1: benefit of that. Let's give his argument the benefit of
Speaker 1: the doubt. Right now, our side, my side, I'm a conservative.
Speaker 1: We believe in due process. Michael Lavanati doesn't believe in
Speaker 1: due process. He's made it very clear the Brett Havana
Speaker 1: shouldn't have been in the Supreme Court because they were
Speaker 1: unfounded accusations and allegations against him, no due process, very
Speaker 1: little evidence. I don't think there was even any evidence
Speaker 1: barring the cure curious testimony of a childlike professor. But
Speaker 1: now suddenly suddenly Avanatis saying no, no, no, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll wait for this process to you know, play out.
Speaker 1: I'll prove my innocence. No no, no, no no. You
Speaker 1: didn't want due process. You don't get due process. Remember,
Speaker 1: Michael Evnati is somebody who, for the last few weeks,
Speaker 1: maybe a little bit longer, has not just been flirting
Speaker 1: with running for president against Donald Trump in he's been
Speaker 1: outright making out with it and groping it on the
Speaker 1: dance floor. This is not a mild flirtation with his
Speaker 1: wish to be the president of the United States. He
Speaker 1: has gone full pelt, telling people on whether I think
Speaker 1: it was TMZ a politic on this big political conference
Speaker 1: out in California, telling them that that's what he wanted
Speaker 1: to do. And well, I have to say, to the
Speaker 1: credit of the Democrats, they haven't really um warm to
Speaker 1: him in that regard. Um A lot of people out
Speaker 1: there were saying, yeah, you know, have nat He's got
Speaker 1: a good chance of an as he can fundraise, have
Speaker 1: an artie can beat them in the forty six person
Speaker 1: primary that they're probably gonna have next year. Well, well,
Speaker 1: look what's happening now. Arrested Wednesday on suspicion of domestic violence.
Speaker 1: We will see how it plays out, lady and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: And we do believe in due process. But isn't it funny?
Speaker 1: The projection from the left continues. This is the buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back. Welcome
Speaker 1: back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheem Kassam
Speaker 1: filling in for Buck Sexton. Hearing a grotesque Washington, d C.
Speaker 1: And more more grotesque than usual, is what I mean?
Speaker 1: Heavy snow, say heavy, a lot of snow overnight. I'm upsetting.
Speaker 1: I'm English. I'm obsessed with the weather. You're gonna have
Speaker 1: to forgive me. I used to do this all the
Speaker 1: time when I hosted another another radio show. Just ended
Speaker 1: up talking about the weather for the first games. It's
Speaker 1: in our blood for some reason. When English but starts talking,
Speaker 1: it's one of the first things he does. It starts
Speaker 1: talking about the weather. The lines here are open, by
Speaker 1: the way, Ladies and gentlemen, it's eight four four nine
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Speaker 1: to five. I want to hear from as many of
Speaker 1: you out there as possible today, if you've got to
Speaker 1: take on the things we've already discussed in this hour.
Speaker 1: It's obviously Michael Labanati. We've touched on the migrant caravans
Speaker 1: and Jim Acosta. We've been talking a little bit about
Speaker 1: Brexit and what happened in the United Kingdom today, but
Speaker 1: there's massive resignations from Theresa May's cabinet right now. I
Speaker 1: want to welcome a special guest. Erica Taxes is New
Speaker 1: York Times best selling author radio host himself, in fact
Speaker 1: interviewed me on The Eric My Taxes Show last year,
Speaker 1: and now the show's on the other foot. Eric, Welcome
Speaker 1: to the show. Yes I did, and thank you for
Speaker 1: having me. I I'd like to talk about something very happy,
Speaker 1: because all those other things there's a fan an undercurrent
Speaker 1: of unpleasantness to some of the news, as you know.
Speaker 1: Uh and uh. The reason of course I'm on the
Speaker 1: program is to talk about my happy new children's book,
Speaker 1: Donald Drains the Swamp, Donald Drains the Swamp. May refer
Speaker 1: to a certain Donald, and the swamp certainly refers to
Speaker 1: the horrible DC swamp to which you were earlier referring.
Speaker 1: But it's a happy book because Donald in fact does
Speaker 1: train the swamp. And it's uh, it's mainly for kids,
Speaker 1: but actually I can't even say that mostly adults are
Speaker 1: buying it because there's a lot of adult humor in it.
Speaker 1: It's a children's book, but there's enough humor for adults
Speaker 1: that they're finding it worth getting. Yeah, you don't mean
Speaker 1: adult humor is in that it's not suitable for kids,
Speaker 1: but you mean that it's it's sort of like one
Speaker 1: of those animations right where where you know it's it's
Speaker 1: good for both audiences. I've got I've got my copy
Speaker 1: at home. When I when I say a humor, what
Speaker 1: I mean is that when you see the biggest swamp
Speaker 1: creature of all is a dinosaur called the george osauros.
Speaker 1: And that's not the kind of thing that little kids
Speaker 1: are gonna get. They're just gonna see a big, nasty
Speaker 1: swamp creature called the Georgia saurus. But of course we
Speaker 1: understand that it's a hungarian dinosaur has billions of dollars
Speaker 1: and worships the devil. Other than that, it's perfectly right
Speaker 1: for kids. No, but it's kind of a funny thing
Speaker 1: because there's a lot of that stuff the swamp creatures resemble.
Speaker 1: One of them has half classes and cries a lot.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a senator from New York type dinosaur. I
Speaker 1: don't know. Uh, there's all it's a bipartisan swamp raheem so. Uh.
Speaker 1: There's also a turtle, and as we know, just because
Speaker 1: of the unders of nature, most turtles, whether they need
Speaker 1: to or don't, end up looking somewhat like the Senate
Speaker 1: majority leaders. Things like that are in the book, but
Speaker 1: you just have to be an adult to appreciate them.
Speaker 1: But on a kid's level, kids love the book because
Speaker 1: it's a story about a caveman named Donald who drains
Speaker 1: the swamp and who restores freedom, or who rather, who
Speaker 1: brings freedom to these people who had been governed by
Speaker 1: a bloated bureaucracy and a king who's decidedly out of
Speaker 1: touch with things. Now it's it looks it seems perfectly
Speaker 1: time to me. Of course, a lot of these things
Speaker 1: are intentionally done so, but you know, Christmas is coming
Speaker 1: up and it's a you know, I would say one
Speaker 1: of those great one of those great stocking fellows. H.
Speaker 1: It's certainly certainly bring brought a smile to my face
Speaker 1: when I got my got my copy uh the other
Speaker 1: week from our kind colleagues at regularly Publishing. Um. But
Speaker 1: but let me ask you this. There are a lot
Speaker 1: of and and stocks to that, you know, right up
Speaker 1: to the gunnals um left wing children's books out there.
Speaker 1: You know that are that are placed in schools, in
Speaker 1: libraries that are designed to sort of indoctrinate or designed
Speaker 1: that This is a big thing for me. I've written
Speaker 1: thirty children's books. People don't know this. They think of
Speaker 1: me as a radio host or is the author of
Speaker 1: bon Hoffer or Luther or something books. I've written thirty
Speaker 1: kids books. I was a writer for Veggie Tales. I've
Speaker 1: written a ton of humor. I was the editor of
Speaker 1: the Yale Humor magazine back when I was in college.
Speaker 1: And so I think that our side, which is to say,
Speaker 1: the conservatives rarely create cultural objects. We talk a lot,
Speaker 1: specifically about politics or maybe theology, but to create cultural
Speaker 1: objects usually a left is what does that? And right
Speaker 1: now you have the spate of nasty left wing anti
Speaker 1: Trump books masquerading as children's books. They are. In fact,
Speaker 1: it's nasty. You wouldn't give them to a kid. This
Speaker 1: is a real book. It's obviously pro Trump, but it's innocent,
Speaker 1: it's not nasty. Uh. And so so it really is
Speaker 1: intended for for kids. And at the end of the story, uh,
Speaker 1: they learn about self government because they want to make
Speaker 1: Donald the king the new king after the king chases
Speaker 1: the money out of the swamp to the horizon once
Speaker 1: they've drained the swamp, and say, maybe you'd be our
Speaker 1: new king, And just like George Washington, he says, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: He says, you are a free people. Now, a king
Speaker 1: tells people what to do. But if free people tell
Speaker 1: us their leaders what to do, and the leaders must
Speaker 1: do it. And they say, oh, you mean like a
Speaker 1: president and he says yes. And if that's what you're
Speaker 1: looking for, I'm your caveman. So we've got these uh
Speaker 1: buttons printed up that say he's my caveman. It's sort
Speaker 1: of a fun way of owning the caveman quality of
Speaker 1: our commander in chief. He gets things done. He knows
Speaker 1: how to how to build a wall, he knows how
Speaker 1: to drain a swamp, dig a trench that's bigger and
Speaker 1: better than any trench ever been dug, and he really
Speaker 1: he us know how to get things done. And it's, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the antithesis of Obama, who seemed to dither
Speaker 1: and wring his hands in a Hamlet like fashion and
Speaker 1: really not confront evil or do anything that that needed
Speaker 1: doing and sort of said, we can we can talk
Speaker 1: about it forever. Well, thank the Lord, he didn't talk
Speaker 1: about it forever. He was voted out and we have
Speaker 1: a president he's actually taking some action. So this is
Speaker 1: a way of celebrating that. But I do think it's
Speaker 1: it's fun enough that you could even give it as
Speaker 1: a as a gag gift to somebody who doesn't like Trump,
Speaker 1: unless they're really really nasty. They will definitely laugh. I mean,
Speaker 1: everybody says that they're finding it funny. There's a lot
Speaker 1: of slight humor. There's there's a bird of blue bird
Speaker 1: that that flits in and out looks a little bit
Speaker 1: like a twitter bird. So there's a lot of subtle
Speaker 1: jokes for adults throughout. Yeah, no, I have I have
Speaker 1: my copy, and I thought it was, um, it was
Speaker 1: very humorous. I haven't. I haven't gone through all of
Speaker 1: it and studied it and studied the drawings, indeed, held
Speaker 1: to figure out who every single character is. That's the key.
Speaker 1: In fact, the the orange creature. Uh, there's an orange
Speaker 1: creature in there. And the illustrator told a friend of mine,
Speaker 1: didn't even tell me. This is my dear friend. The
Speaker 1: illustrator told another friend that the orange Triceratops is meant
Speaker 1: to be John Brennan. So what can I tell you?
Speaker 1: I don't know what if people will discover other things.
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's all these nasty swamp creatures, and of
Speaker 1: course they don't want to leave the swamp because the
Speaker 1: swamp is made of money. Why would they leave? So
Speaker 1: there's nothing to do except drain the swamp, and Donald
Speaker 1: shows the kind of leadership to get it done. It's uh,
Speaker 1: as I say, it's a it's a happy book. We're
Speaker 1: actually building a Donald the Caveman plush so people can
Speaker 1: get a plush dolluh. And also Mike Lindell of My
Speaker 1: Pillow is creating a Donald the Caveman pillow. Donald drains
Speaker 1: the swamp. So it's so this is not going away
Speaker 1: anytime soon. Well, I gotta tell yeah, I did not
Speaker 1: ever get a free my pillow, and I've never been
Speaker 1: paid to advertise my pillows. But I gotta tell you,
Speaker 1: Mike Lindell changed my life. F y, I I don't
Speaker 1: know those things that those things are awesome. You're You're
Speaker 1: James Mike Lindell personally. I You've got Tim Tim Raglan
Speaker 1: as an illustrator on this book. Award winning illustrator has
Speaker 1: done many He's brilliant. I mean, look, I knew he
Speaker 1: had to do it. He and I've done many books together.
Speaker 1: But he's the one that convinced me to take a
Speaker 1: serious look at Trump back in the in the early primaries,
Speaker 1: when I was not sold on Trump. He's the one
Speaker 1: that insists. He says, this guy's a folk hero. You
Speaker 1: need to to to watch him at these rallies, and
Speaker 1: I finally understood. He's like a tall tale figure. He's
Speaker 1: a folk hero. Donald Trump is a larger than life
Speaker 1: folk hero for such a time as this in America,
Speaker 1: and so this book is meant to celebrate that aspect
Speaker 1: of him. That's why he's a caveman. Of course, everybody
Speaker 1: in the book is either a caveman or a dinosaur.
Speaker 1: But He really is kind of like a larger than life,
Speaker 1: get it done folk hero, and I think that's why
Speaker 1: he's so beloved and so hated on the other side. Absolutely,
Speaker 1: Eric Metaxas, the author of Donald Drain's The Swamp, I
Speaker 1: am very I'm very pleased that this occurs, because, like
Speaker 1: you said, you know, we can often on our side,
Speaker 1: you know, just focus on the back, just focus on
Speaker 1: the negative, just focus on the politics. And actually culturally
Speaker 1: we get beat around the head all over the shop,
Speaker 1: whether it's in you know, Hollywood or in Manhattan. Bookstores
Speaker 1: packed to the gunnals, full of full of left wing stuff.
Speaker 1: So people go into a bookstore, good luck finding this book.
Speaker 1: I hope you'll ask the manager do you have a copy?
Speaker 1: And if not, why don't you? It's been in the
Speaker 1: Amazon top one hundred. Uh, it continues to do well.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be doing TV. They don't have it.
Speaker 1: It's an astounding thing, obviously because there's biased So I
Speaker 1: think people need to say to bar the noble managers
Speaker 1: and so on, but you need, you need to have
Speaker 1: this in the store. I would have bought five copies,
Speaker 1: and you know, at at the price they're charging people
Speaker 1: are buying five copies, you know, for Christmas or for
Speaker 1: the grandkids whatever. And so it's scandalous to me that
Speaker 1: we live in a day and age when vast stores
Speaker 1: like Barnes and Noble don't carry the book. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously half of the country loves this president and would
Speaker 1: be interested in that. Yeah, it was, it was, Eric
Speaker 1: was exactly the same thing when my book came out
Speaker 1: in seventeen No go zones, um and and people were
Speaker 1: asking me, you know, I've looked in my bookstore. I
Speaker 1: can't get it. They said they can order it in
Speaker 1: but that'll take two weeks. So a lot of people
Speaker 1: ended up ordering it on Amazon, which, of course you
Speaker 1: can get Donald Drains the Swamp on Amazon. But and then,
Speaker 1: on the other hand, a lot of people don't want
Speaker 1: to shop at Amazon for obvious reasons, right right, Well,
Speaker 1: better better to buy this at Amazon than to let
Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert's book the number one forever. That's my theory.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, Eric Metaxas, thanks for taking the
Speaker 1: time out this evening to bring a little bit of
Speaker 1: joy to us. As you say, it can get a
Speaker 1: little bit draining and serious. So I'm really glad you've done,
Speaker 1: Donald drains the swamp and that you can bring a
Speaker 1: smile to our faces this evening. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: for rahem God bless you look forward to the next time.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That is Eric Metaxas. Make sure you pick
Speaker 1: up a copy of Donald drames This Swamp is a
Speaker 1: great Christmas present. I will be buying it for several
Speaker 1: people in my life, several who like President jop and
Speaker 1: several who don't. I am rahemasm. This is the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. On Thursday of November, the snow is hit
Speaker 1: the East coast and caused all sorts of misery and problems.
Speaker 1: But I hear the sun is coming back out tomorrow.
Speaker 1: The phone lines are open here for you guys. It's
Speaker 1: eight four four d buck. That's eight four eight to five.
Speaker 1: So why don't you give me a jingle here in
Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut keep me company this evening. We can talk, obviously,
Speaker 1: talk about Michael Abernati, obviously talk about Jim Accosta and
Speaker 1: his big claim that the migrants were not jumping the borders,
Speaker 1: and they actually are. We've got video of it and
Speaker 1: it's online right now. It's been shown on new sites,
Speaker 1: It's been shown all over Twitter over the course of today.
Speaker 1: And UM, I also want to talk to you a
Speaker 1: little bit, and I'll introde this a little bit right
Speaker 1: now and do a little bit more in the next
Speaker 1: segment after the next break. But I had a an
Speaker 1: article that I wrote in the Daily Caller yesterday. UM.
Speaker 1: The headline of it was Trump understands the important difference
Speaker 1: between nationalism and globalism and and it went pretty pretty
Speaker 1: dawn viral over the course of the last twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: And I think the reason it did there's not just
Speaker 1: because President Emmanuel Macron of France chose a somber ceremony
Speaker 1: of the Armistice commemorations to attack President Trump into attack nationalism,
Speaker 1: but also because a lot of people don't quite understand
Speaker 1: the concept, or they understand it at a farcical ethno
Speaker 1: white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, homophoe, herb is lamophobe, I'm quite
Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton now, UM, at that level, they don't actually
Speaker 1: know the history or philosophy of nationalism, and they certainly
Speaker 1: don't know that it was actually globalism, or rather it's
Speaker 1: root philosophy of imperialism that was really to blame for
Speaker 1: the Great Wars of the twentie century. So yes, back
Speaker 1: to serious topics. We'll do more of it after this break.
Speaker 1: Is the buck Sexton Show. Him will be right back.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheim
Speaker 1: because I'm filling in for the great Bucks Sexton here
Speaker 1: from the Freedom Heart and Washington, d C. Florida's Senate
Speaker 1: Counts is heading to a hand recount. Gosh, what is
Speaker 1: in the water down there in Broward County? Let me
Speaker 1: ask you that I want to take some more calls,
Speaker 1: so I get on the line eight four four to
Speaker 1: five four Buck. I think we have Skippy and Boston
Speaker 1: on the line. I want to bring Skippy in Boston
Speaker 1: and if if we can connect there. Hey, Skibby, how
Speaker 1: you doing? How are you reading? I hope you comment
Speaker 1: about distrabanities statement after I don't know he was. It
Speaker 1: was just out from being availed or what, and it
Speaker 1: was amazing, went he satellites, I'm going to be brief,
Speaker 1: and to Saint. When you were brief, you were already
Speaker 1: be at the Saint for you repetitious. But but when
Speaker 1: he said the statement, my my, you know, the alarm
Speaker 1: clock went out of my head when I heard him
Speaker 1: say I've never hit a woman. I will never hit
Speaker 1: a woman. I just women. Twenty four hours ago, there
Speaker 1: was multiple reports when he was being arrested. There was
Speaker 1: reports of them shouting, but she hit me first. Therefore,
Speaker 1: if she hit me first, that has to me he
Speaker 1: had a second, which kills his statement of I have
Speaker 1: never had a woman. Well, that's right, I mean the
Speaker 1: and we have to obviously be fair and careful with this.
Speaker 1: The allegations are still allegations, but the witness reports suggested
Speaker 1: that at the time he had said something along the
Speaker 1: lines of she hit me first, and then as you're
Speaker 1: right to say, skippy. His his statement says, uh, I
Speaker 1: have never struck a woman. I will never strike a woman.
Speaker 1: I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career,
Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. Now,
Speaker 1: something apart from that, skibby, something strange strikes me about
Speaker 1: that attitude. A couple of weeks ago, I don't know
Speaker 1: if you know this, conservative journalist Laura looma independent investigative journalist,
Speaker 1: um he tweeted Michael Abernardi tweeted a very unflattering picture
Speaker 1: of her, and the intent of that picture was obviously
Speaker 1: to I suppose what the left would call body shame
Speaker 1: her right, make make fun of her appearance. Um so, so, firstly,
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like particularly like being an advocate to me.
Speaker 1: It also doesn't seem like you're much of an advocate
Speaker 1: for women's rights. And you tell me if I'm wrong
Speaker 1: or right on this, Skibby. If you're presenting people to
Speaker 1: the public whose allegations are so false that they end
Speaker 1: up disbelieving women in the long haul, what do you
Speaker 1: think that's right to show he was He was just
Speaker 1: moving in. He's trying to make a name from tot
Speaker 1: trying to make mostly make some money. And can I
Speaker 1: ask you something else? Who was the solid that was
Speaker 1: up in Minnesota who just became that attorney general? He
Speaker 1: was at his wife for girlfriends and I'm talking about
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of it going on out there, Skippy. Unfortunately,
Speaker 1: we're up against the hard break. But I thank you
Speaker 1: for your call. I will I will follow up on
Speaker 1: your question momentarily in the meantime. This is the Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We're going to be back
Speaker 1: after this break. Dozens of people gathered on the South side.
Speaker 1: Some climbed the barrier and sat on it, Others walked
Speaker 1: the structure while Border patrol agent kept an eye on
Speaker 1: the crowd. This man dressed in red and white jumping
Speaker 1: onto US soil. That person and others who did come
Speaker 1: across US ran back when border patrol agents approached. It's
Speaker 1: not known for certain who these people are. The Border
Speaker 1: Patrol said it believes some could be from that caravan
Speaker 1: that has been making its way through Mexico from Honduras.
Speaker 1: That's the latest situation at the border. I'm Rheim Kassam.
Speaker 1: This is the buck Sexton Show'm going to be discussing
Speaker 1: this issue now with another one of our fantastic guests
Speaker 1: from the Center for Immigration Studies. We have their director
Speaker 1: of Policy Studies, Jessica m vaughan, joining us on the line. Jessica,
Speaker 1: thank you and welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Glad
Speaker 1: to be with you. So um, I was of the belief, Jessica,
Speaker 1: that that because I get all of my news from
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta, and and I listened to his every word
Speaker 1: and I hang on it, and everything he says is
Speaker 1: obviously true. And when he got up last week in
Speaker 1: the White House and said, these people are not at
Speaker 1: the border. They're nowhere near the thousands of my is away.
Speaker 1: And even when they are going to get to the border,
Speaker 1: they're not going to try and climb over fences. What happened.
Speaker 1: I can't believe that Jim Acosta was wrong. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: he was like so many in the news media, reporting
Speaker 1: without having actually seen what was going on and without
Speaker 1: any kind of um experienced nuance or you know, talking
Speaker 1: to real experts in the field. Um. Of course, the
Speaker 1: caravan was going to get here quickly. They got rides.
Speaker 1: In fact, I think some probably got here even earlier
Speaker 1: than today, the ones who peeled off and went with smugglers.
Speaker 1: And obviously they're not all peacefully seeking asylum as the
Speaker 1: President suggested through the legal ports of entry. They're not
Speaker 1: all starving mothers and children. Uh, they are here to
Speaker 1: try to get into the United States, and the organizers
Speaker 1: are trying to make a political point for open borders. Um.
Speaker 1: I can't say the particularly brave either. Hearing about the
Speaker 1: one who jumped down to the beach and then ran
Speaker 1: away when he's all the border patrol, I'm surprised he
Speaker 1: didn't try to claim asylum as the lawyers suggested they do,
Speaker 1: although I guess he wouldn't be successful because he was
Speaker 1: entering illegally. But it is pretty interesting. There are many
Speaker 1: many young men, the classic kind of people who are
Speaker 1: trying to enter illegally all these years, but who have
Speaker 1: been um sharing the stage now with people coming with kids.
Speaker 1: So I mean, this isn't an adventure and an opportunity
Speaker 1: for a lot of these people. They're not fleeing persecution.
Speaker 1: If they were, they would have looked for safe haven
Speaker 1: in Mexico. They're they're here to try to get in
Speaker 1: because they think they can get away with it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I must say, um, the Center for Immigration Studies
Speaker 1: on the website, you have a you have a migrant
Speaker 1: caravan uh map describing the location. Uh. You know, because
Speaker 1: you actually don't see this very much, very often on
Speaker 1: the on the news media, especially not some certain channels. Um.
Speaker 1: And it was it was clear to me a couple
Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks ago when I started doing
Speaker 1: my own research into this and finding out just how
Speaker 1: far back this sort of trajectory and history of this
Speaker 1: sort of long term undermining of US border sovereignty, how
Speaker 1: far back it stretches, and how far back some of
Speaker 1: these halfway houses go and who they're funded by historically,
Speaker 1: it was obvious to me, and it sounds like it
Speaker 1: was obvious to you that this was going to arrive
Speaker 1: at least a couple of hundred several hundred, um if
Speaker 1: not more, We're going to arrive very soon. It's why
Speaker 1: I actually did scratch my head a little bit last week,
Speaker 1: because Jim Acosta wasn't sort of saying this down the
Speaker 1: pub with his mates where he wouldn't be able to
Speaker 1: be held to account for making these counter factual statements.
Speaker 1: He was saying on probably the most watched clip now
Speaker 1: in the last three or four months. I mean that
Speaker 1: that altercation in the White House is probably the number
Speaker 1: one thing that's been watched anywhere in the world. And
Speaker 1: he outright lied, And I suppose a lot of people
Speaker 1: they want to know whether it was a knowing lie
Speaker 1: or whether he's just ignorant on this. I mean, what
Speaker 1: do you think? That is a very good question. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure if he's just kidding himself or deliberately misleading
Speaker 1: his audience for political reasons. It sure appears to me
Speaker 1: that his desire to embarrass or discredit or undermine President
Speaker 1: Trump seems to take priority or get the best of
Speaker 1: any um journalistic impulses that he may have or at
Speaker 1: least be trained in. I think that that you know
Speaker 1: that that's what he's interested in doing, you know, regardless
Speaker 1: of what the truth is, is that he's there to
Speaker 1: grandstand and to make the president or try to make
Speaker 1: the President look bad, rather than report the news or
Speaker 1: ask a question. I wanna I wanna play for you here, Jessica,
Speaker 1: the clip from President Trum what he said, and get
Speaker 1: your reaction to that. Mr producer, Let's bay clips to
Speaker 1: please the Democrats have launched an assault on the sovereignty
Speaker 1: of our country, the security of our nation, and the
Speaker 1: safety of every single American. The crisis on our border
Speaker 1: right now as we speak is the sole result of
Speaker 1: Democrat laws and activists Democrat judges that prevent us from
Speaker 1: returning illegal aliens from Central America and all over the world.
Speaker 1: It's called Catchen Release. Jessica Vaughan, director of Policy Studies
Speaker 1: at the Center for Immigration Studies, Is he on the
Speaker 1: money there? Yes, he is, actually um. The the biggest
Speaker 1: problem is that there is a judge in California by
Speaker 1: the name of Judge Dolly g who has greatly restricted
Speaker 1: what the federal government can do in handling these cases
Speaker 1: of parents and kids who cross illegally, basically saying that
Speaker 1: that the that the government can never detain kids, or
Speaker 1: at least not for longer than twenty days, even if
Speaker 1: they arrive illegally with their parents. And even the Obama
Speaker 1: administration fought this judge over this interpretation of a settlement
Speaker 1: agreement that was reached years ago on how to treat
Speaker 1: kids who arrived by themselves at the border and how
Speaker 1: to UM look out for kids who may have been
Speaker 1: trafficked into the United States. Uh. And she has basically
Speaker 1: expanded this to cover anyone under the age of a
Speaker 1: teen who arrives at the border are either with their
Speaker 1: kids or with a smuggler, or excuse me, with their
Speaker 1: parent or with a smuggler, and that is constraining the government. UM.
Speaker 1: The original law that that UM set up the parameters
Speaker 1: for dealing with a company Miners was written by Democrats. Now,
Speaker 1: it was signed into law by President George Bush. But
Speaker 1: it is fair to call it a democratic law because
Speaker 1: they wrote it. UM. But you know, Republicans stupidly went
Speaker 1: along with it. Never imagining that we would see this
Speaker 1: flood of people arriving with their kids because traditionally people
Speaker 1: have always come without their kids and left them behind. Well,
Speaker 1: I will, I will, I will say this. I mean,
Speaker 1: I I don't think it's necessarily that those Republicans of
Speaker 1: that time didn't foresee this. I think they didn't care.
Speaker 1: They didn't quite understand, you know, that it was an
Speaker 1: attack on on on national sovereignty and and and it
Speaker 1: escaped them and escaped them because their priorities at the
Speaker 1: time were not you know, the nation state and not
Speaker 1: border security. And we hadn't started hearing of all the
Speaker 1: horror stories yet of of of what illegal immigration was
Speaker 1: doing uh to the United States. And I want to
Speaker 1: ask you a couple of questions, um, because I know
Speaker 1: we were limited on time here. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: ask two questions to Jessica Vaughan. Number One, in your
Speaker 1: estimation how many have started to arrive at that Tijuana border,
Speaker 1: because you know, the Daily Mail says fifteen hundred UM,
Speaker 1: NBC says four hundred, CNN saying negative three million, UM.
Speaker 1: How what at this point? What is the what is
Speaker 1: the estimate of what's going on down there? Because because
Speaker 1: the the info seems a little bit a little bit
Speaker 1: confused at the moment. One of my colleagues is reporting
Speaker 1: from Texas and interviewing his contacts UM in the US
Speaker 1: military and Texas law enforcement agencies, and he says, there
Speaker 1: are one thousand, seven hundred and fifty who have arrived
Speaker 1: in Tijuan uh, which is about three times the capacity
Speaker 1: of the existing migrant shelters in Tijuana. Wow. And and
Speaker 1: as a as a sort of an asside to that,
Speaker 1: what what do you foresee now happening? How do these
Speaker 1: people get uh dealt with processed? UM and and other estimates.
Speaker 1: So there is the historical averages of how many get
Speaker 1: less in Well, the caravan in the spring, pretty much
Speaker 1: everyone who applied for asylum was allowed into the United
Speaker 1: States to present that claim and immigration court UM. A
Speaker 1: few of them were denied because of previous deportations or
Speaker 1: criminal history, but almost all of them were let in UM.
Speaker 1: And what's going to happen here is that they're going
Speaker 1: to be told to sort of take a number that
Speaker 1: they can't be allowed in to ask for asylum until
Speaker 1: we have the capacity to process them. And that could
Speaker 1: take a very very long time because are already lots
Speaker 1: of people waiting. I mean this, this kind of slow
Speaker 1: motion caravan of asylum seekers has been going on for
Speaker 1: at least a year with hundreds of people arriving at
Speaker 1: these ports of entry. So they're gonna be um process
Speaker 1: very slowly. There I suspect that um fewer of them
Speaker 1: will be let in than in the spring, because what
Speaker 1: we know is that only half the people who let
Speaker 1: in asking for asylum will actually fill out the asylum
Speaker 1: application form once we let them in, and half of
Speaker 1: them will not show up for their court hearings, and
Speaker 1: only ten or so will ever be found qualified for asylum.
Speaker 1: What they don't want asylum, they want to get into
Speaker 1: the United States. And unless the Trump administration has come
Speaker 1: up with some with better ways to apply the law
Speaker 1: for asylum seekers, than most of them are going to
Speaker 1: get in, but just at a slow pace. But but
Speaker 1: that's no comfort to the communities around the country that
Speaker 1: that are going to have to absorb these people who
Speaker 1: will basically join the illegal population. It's and speaking of which,
Speaker 1: let's just clarify something quickly, because you know, you still
Speaker 1: see a lot of people using that eleven million figure.
Speaker 1: There are eleven million illegals in the United States. Some go, okay, yeah, fine,
Speaker 1: that was a couple of years ago. Maybe there are
Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen now. But actually somebody said to me
Speaker 1: UM a few days ago, maybe even last night, that
Speaker 1: they were of the belief that it's more like twenty
Speaker 1: to thirty million. Where does the Center for Immigration Studies
Speaker 1: fall on this? What are your estimates? We estimate that
Speaker 1: there are about twelve million people here. UM. We used
Speaker 1: to Census Bureau data to try to ascertain that and
Speaker 1: and adjust for an under account that we know happens.
Speaker 1: We haven't been able to corroborate that the higher figures
Speaker 1: through any any other methods like UM, schools, hospitals, law enforcement,
Speaker 1: or any other way. It's impossible to really have an
Speaker 1: accurate count because you know, it's just not gonna not
Speaker 1: not possible. But Census Bureau is pretty good at it
Speaker 1: because they send all sorts of UM staff out to
Speaker 1: encourage people to fill out the forms. Because local governments
Speaker 1: depend on accurate numbers to get certain kinds of funding
Speaker 1: from the from the federal government, so we think it's
Speaker 1: close to accurate. Twelve million is what we say. Jessica Vaughn,
Speaker 1: the Center for Immigration Studies, Director of Policy Studies. Thank
Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here this evening on
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for having me. They're good
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. What do you think the phone lines
Speaker 1: are open? Eight four four n eight to five. I
Speaker 1: am of the belief that the number is higher, but
Speaker 1: Jessica is also a very very competent and well known
Speaker 1: and well respected expert. There was a Yale Insights study
Speaker 1: recently that put the number between I think eighteen and
Speaker 1: twenty two million UM. But as Jessica says, there's there's
Speaker 1: census day to and there's hospital data, and there's school data.
Speaker 1: I have something to say about it. One is bad
Speaker 1: enough to maintain border security. The nation should not tolerate
Speaker 1: one illegal immigrant. My country has the same problem. The
Speaker 1: United Kingdom has the same problem we have. We seem
Speaker 1: to have this buffer, we seem to have this general
Speaker 1: acceptance that, yeah, there's going to be a certain number
Speaker 1: of people who have broken the law, and that's fine.
Speaker 1: I suppose this is this is the mentality that our
Speaker 1: governments operate, that there is not a right and wrong,
Speaker 1: but there is not illegal or illegal, but there is
Speaker 1: some sort of acceptable gray area. I think to yourself,
Speaker 1: why why would we accept a gray area like that.
Speaker 1: We don't accept gray areas in murder cases, or in
Speaker 1: rape cases, or in theft cases, burglaries. Yeah, that guy
Speaker 1: kind of burgled your house, but did really burgle you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he took the TV, he left the DVD player, he
Speaker 1: left the stereos, And don't worry about it. It's a
Speaker 1: gray area. This is the Buck Sexton Show and Rhea,
Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a quick break back, hopefully more
Speaker 1: of your calls and much more eight four four to
Speaker 1: five A four four nine D Buck, We'll be right back.
Speaker 1: Radical Democrats want to turn back the clock forward the
Speaker 1: rule of corrupt, power hungry, global less. You know what,
Speaker 1: the globuless is, right, you know what that loveless is
Speaker 1: a globulens. There's a person that wants the blog to
Speaker 1: do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much.
Speaker 1: And you know what, we can't have that. You know,
Speaker 1: they have a word. It sort of became old fashioned.
Speaker 1: It's called a nationalist. And I say, really, we're not
Speaker 1: supposed to use that word. You know what I am.
Speaker 1: I'm a nationalist, Okay, I'm a nast us President Trump.
Speaker 1: They're speaking a couple of weeks ago now about his nationalism,
Speaker 1: a word that sent the talking heads on your televisions
Speaker 1: into a big old frenzy. I wrote a piece for
Speaker 1: The Daily Caller this week yesterday in fact, about nationalism,
Speaker 1: and about specifically why President Emmanuel Macron was mistaken in
Speaker 1: trying to use that Armistice one year anniversary commemoration to
Speaker 1: attack President Trump. In the article, which I've just tweeted,
Speaker 1: by the way, if you want to follow me on Twitter,
Speaker 1: it's at Raheem Kasam, that's k A. S. S A M.
Speaker 1: I wrote about the resistance leader from the Second World War,
Speaker 1: General Charles de gaul, who went on to be President
Speaker 1: of France himself. He said in and I think this
Speaker 1: is a good phrase to deploy if ever you get
Speaker 1: accosted by globalists. He said, he who does not love
Speaker 1: his mother more than his more than other mothers, and
Speaker 1: his fatherland more than other fatherlands, loves neither his mother
Speaker 1: nor his fatherland. I want to get a response to
Speaker 1: that um, and of course, the wider debate surrounding border
Speaker 1: security and sovereignty from another one of the great callers
Speaker 1: on the line, Rich is in West by God, Virginia, Richard,
Speaker 1: are you there West Virginia? Trade absolutely, Richard, take it away.
Speaker 1: As far as I really love a President Trump, A
Speaker 1: lot of the stuff he says about the immigrants, when
Speaker 1: he's saying innocent people, there's a lot of them did
Speaker 1: generates are just were criminals, and he just believes you
Speaker 1: are to stand them back. And these country, these smaller
Speaker 1: countries are the samer and moment. They need to do something,
Speaker 1: change the way the country is being run so they
Speaker 1: can can come merge. Heaven to send them over here.
Speaker 1: It's just I just say he's attitude when it comes
Speaker 1: to that, all kind of different things. I don't think
Speaker 1: he's doing a great too. I haven't think he's probably
Speaker 1: the best person that we ever heard. Well, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it brilliant? Actually, Richard to say to those people, hey, look,
Speaker 1: if you want that country to get better, probably the
Speaker 1: best thing is not to leave that country. How can
Speaker 1: how can these nations? How can these nations improve? How
Speaker 1: can things get better? How can economies improve? How can
Speaker 1: innovations happen? If you don't have the manpower, the people
Speaker 1: capital to do it. If you're best and brightest are
Speaker 1: being encouraged to move to other countries. Well, what happens.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you Richard for
Speaker 1: the call. We'll be right back after another break. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahm because I'm
Speaker 1: filling in for Buck Sexton today, live from the Freedom
Speaker 1: Hut in a snowy and slushy Washington, d C. The
Speaker 1: lines are open. Here the phone number for you all
Speaker 1: out there. You want to get something off your chest,
Speaker 1: Do you have a question, do you have a comment?
Speaker 1: Keep it clean? Eight four four nine hundred to eight
Speaker 1: to five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. We've
Speaker 1: heard from a couple of callers already across the show.
Speaker 1: I love the callers. The callers, for me are the
Speaker 1: best part of the show. No offense to the guests
Speaker 1: and myself. UM, but I'm more interested in what you
Speaker 1: have to say than what I have to say. UM.
Speaker 1: And and you know that's that's I think the most
Speaker 1: important part of this this presidency as well here in
Speaker 1: the United States. I think the president does what he
Speaker 1: does because he's interested in in how people, ordinary hard
Speaker 1: working people who do the things that you guys do
Speaker 1: out there every day, how they want the country. I've
Speaker 1: got a great guest lined up for you for this
Speaker 1: segment as well, Eric Eggers. He is a he's a
Speaker 1: researcher and author from the Government Accountability Institute. He's the
Speaker 1: author of a new book called Fraud. And you might
Speaker 1: know the Government Accountability instu g I and and Eric
Speaker 1: because of the Clinton Cash book, an investigation from just
Speaker 1: before the election. So I really wanted to have Eric
Speaker 1: on this evening. I'm glad he could join us um
Speaker 1: to discuss this new book, the subtitle of which is
Speaker 1: How the Left Plans to steal the next election. And
Speaker 1: we've touched so far in the first hour or so
Speaker 1: on voter fraud, on what's going on in Florida, and
Speaker 1: President Trump channeling the views of ordinary people and saying, well,
Speaker 1: hold on a second, how does it take a week
Speaker 1: class to count these ballots? Where are these ballot boxes disappearing?
Speaker 1: To again, in any other part of life, if this
Speaker 1: were to happen, we wouldn't tolerate it, and we certainly
Speaker 1: I don't think should be tolerating it when it comes
Speaker 1: to something as sacrosanct as people's votes, as how you
Speaker 1: decide who governs a nation, who governs a state, even
Speaker 1: if it were the election of a dog catcher, we
Speaker 1: shouldn't tolerate something like this. And Matt Gates came out
Speaker 1: today and said, well, actually this is a warm up
Speaker 1: act for the Democrat Party of America who planned to
Speaker 1: steal the election by doing things like they're doing in
Speaker 1: Broward County. I want to bring on Eric AGA's now
Speaker 1: to talk about this. Eric. Good, good evening to you. Hey,
Speaker 1: thanks for him. It's great to be here. But if
Speaker 1: if it'd be more interesting to you, I could just
Speaker 1: see Eric from Tawahassee that has an opinion about voter
Speaker 1: part that would be more interesting to me. Eric. Um.
Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking, I mean, I'm obsessed with weather. It's
Speaker 1: just it's in my blood. Um. I bet it's not
Speaker 1: snowing and slushy down in Tallahassee. It's not, man, but
Speaker 1: it's cold. It's incommonly cold here in North Florida. So um,
Speaker 1: it's we literally just turned the heat on today for
Speaker 1: the first time. Get you get cold when it hit
Speaker 1: seventy Listen, listen. I will not stand for that, especially
Speaker 1: you know from somebody up in d C. Listen in
Speaker 1: North Florida, we have a hearty stock and uh it's
Speaker 1: at least in the forties now it's cold. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: it's said, but but things are heating up as it
Speaker 1: relates to uh, you know that the things that are
Speaker 1: happening from an election standpoint, obviously, Florida's bien. Hey, yeah,
Speaker 1: I worked in radio for a little bit, so it's
Speaker 1: been it's been obviously a very contentious time. But um,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we've just completed the machine recounts
Speaker 1: here and so actually just and you may have covered
Speaker 1: this already, but Ron the Antist has declared victory again
Speaker 1: and sort of they been declared the winner maintained in
Speaker 1: a thirty three thousand vote margin. Rick Scott and Bill
Speaker 1: Nelson will head into a manual recount because they're still
Speaker 1: separated by the left and the point to five percent
Speaker 1: threshold which triggers the manual recounts under Florida law. But
Speaker 1: it's it's a great point you make, Raheem about the
Speaker 1: things that Donald Trump has said. You know, he was
Speaker 1: criticized because of his tweet about people or or I
Speaker 1: guess somebody quoted him saying that people go and vote
Speaker 1: and then and then they change clothes and then to
Speaker 1: come back and vote again. And I don't have any
Speaker 1: evidence of that atarily don't have any stories like that
Speaker 1: in my book. But but what I do think is true.
Speaker 1: And I heard this great analysis about Donald Trump and
Speaker 1: they said, look, people on the left take him literally
Speaker 1: but not seriously, and people on the right take him
Speaker 1: seriously but not literally. And so yeah, while he literally
Speaker 1: may not be correct, uh, he could not be more
Speaker 1: serious in terms of the issue he raises. I mean,
Speaker 1: the reality is, and this is one of the things
Speaker 1: I talked about in the book, is that American elections,
Speaker 1: and especially Florida's elections are about as prone to be
Speaker 1: able to ward off attack as the US men's national
Speaker 1: soccer team was today. Right, So that is to say,
Speaker 1: not Ferry, remind me of what happened in the soccer today, Eric,
Speaker 1: i'd I'd rather not talk about a raheem three three
Speaker 1: nothing to England, I believe. So, so we know, I mean,
Speaker 1: we know as poor US as your borders. We we
Speaker 1: know in that illegal ballots were part of the Florida
Speaker 1: vote house because Brenda Snipes the Broward County Supervisor elections
Speaker 1: couldn't keep the illegal ballots separate from the legal ballot,
Speaker 1: they got blended together, and then rather than exclude all
Speaker 1: of them, which wouldn't been a disinfranched mind of a
Speaker 1: large number of legal votes, they just decided to include
Speaker 1: some illegal votes as well. But to Donald Trump's point,
Speaker 1: there were a hundred and eight ballots in Miami Dade
Speaker 1: County that were rejected because they were double vote. That
Speaker 1: is to say, they were they were ballots the second
Speaker 1: ballot cast by someone in that election cycle. Whether that
Speaker 1: means they cast in aptinute ballot and then try to
Speaker 1: show up and vote in person, or they voted in
Speaker 1: one precinct and try to go up and show and
Speaker 1: voted a different precinct, or whatever it was. You know,
Speaker 1: we don't have evidence of the wardrobe change, but we
Speaker 1: do know that double voting attempts happened in my inmitate
Speaker 1: this cycle. In my book, I talked about the fact
Speaker 1: that they were overs of double votes in the state
Speaker 1: of Florida alone in sixteen, which is more than four
Speaker 1: times the margin of victory of a presidential election this century. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I think that there's no doubt that illegal
Speaker 1: voting does occur, and we've seen it firsthand, and so
Speaker 1: you know, I think if people people always often ask me, well,
Speaker 1: what does it what does it mean? What's the solution
Speaker 1: moving forward? I think the good news is that we
Speaker 1: have a president that actually will speak about it and
Speaker 1: will raise the issue, because I think one one takeaway
Speaker 1: from me from this entire process is when you've got
Speaker 1: lawyers involved, and you've got eyes on the ballot and
Speaker 1: eyes on the ground, you see how many different instances
Speaker 1: of shenanigans are are happening. I mean, lawyers for Bill
Speaker 1: Nelson and Andrew Gillham were on the record objecting to
Speaker 1: the exclusion or removal of non citizen votes, which are illegal.
Speaker 1: But yet here are the Democrats say no, those should count.
Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it's good that we see
Speaker 1: the reality of what happens in elections laid bare for
Speaker 1: all to see through this process. Whisping with Eric Eggers
Speaker 1: from the Government Accountability Institute. He's gotten book that came
Speaker 1: out this summer. It's called Fraud, How the Left plans
Speaker 1: to steal the next election. I commended to you all, um, Eric,
Speaker 1: in terms of what what Matt Gates said today about
Speaker 1: about this being sort of a warm up Act for
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. And I was watching CNN earlier today
Speaker 1: because I kind of hate myself, so I like to
Speaker 1: I like the self flagellation and torture of having watching
Speaker 1: the soccer match. Well there you go. Um No, I couldn't.
Speaker 1: I couldn't revel in the victor in English victory today
Speaker 1: I was. I was had my eyes fixated on that
Speaker 1: and and and the Brexit stuff happening in the UK
Speaker 1: as well. Um. But they were laughing at Matt Gates
Speaker 1: on CNN. They were saying, you know, conspiracy theory, this
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. There's no problem certainly poo pooing the idea
Speaker 1: that any form of lawsuit against you know, from one
Speaker 1: side or the other weren't sort of opportunistic and taking
Speaker 1: their chances and influencing the the end result. But let's
Speaker 1: face it, that is where we are now. So so so,
Speaker 1: how much do you think that Matt Gates was right
Speaker 1: the Democrats are seeing what they can get away with
Speaker 1: or if they always just been this way? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't know that this is unique. Maybe there If there's
Speaker 1: anything that's unique here, it's the motivation level and this
Speaker 1: belief in the self righteous belief by people on the
Speaker 1: left of the moral authority by which they're operating. I mean,
Speaker 1: heading into this election season, you know, nothing less than
Speaker 1: the impeachment of the president and the for the Kavanaugh
Speaker 1: hearings were concluded this idea that hey, we're gonna block
Speaker 1: this Supreme Court justice from being confirmed. Uh, you know,
Speaker 1: We're gonna expand healthcare for all, We're gonna abolish ice,
Speaker 1: we're gonna abolish enforcement of immigration laws. So these are
Speaker 1: all things that are that are not just political positions
Speaker 1: but moral impediment. Uh. You know, So I think, you know,
Speaker 1: I think it's important to think through the motivation level.
Speaker 1: So if the people believe this strongly and what they're
Speaker 1: trying to make happen, then I think exploiting the very
Speaker 1: real vulnerabilities in American election systems doesn't seem like a stretch.
Speaker 1: You know. The larger point I try to make about
Speaker 1: the incompetence that we've seen in Barrower County, in Palmish Counting,
Speaker 1: and that's the word I use. You know, Representative Gates
Speaker 1: I think has speculated as to the legitimacy of the
Speaker 1: eight three thousand ballants and Barrower County that have materialized.
Speaker 1: I've spoken to election experts to say and listen, that's
Speaker 1: just how they're doing it. It's not fraud, it's just incompetence.
Speaker 1: But to me that the point is this, if they're
Speaker 1: this bad at keeping track of and holding and then
Speaker 1: performing a sophisticated mathematical technique known as counting, how bad
Speaker 1: do you think they are at preventing the illegal votes
Speaker 1: from being cast? Especially when you consider Brenda Snipe's track
Speaker 1: record of admitting that she's allowed illegal immigrants and felons
Speaker 1: to vote. And by the way, this is the key
Speaker 1: point where team that she's admitted in previous court cases
Speaker 1: that it's it. It's almost impossible to prevent because these
Speaker 1: voter registration drives, especially ahead of these big elections, You've
Speaker 1: got so many people being registered to vote, and the
Speaker 1: systems just aren't in place to prevent or to to
Speaker 1: perform the level of accuracy and verification to make sure
Speaker 1: that people that are registering to vote are the people
Speaker 1: that are actually voting. So the sneering dismissiveness by the
Speaker 1: elite media of people like Matt Gates, I think it's
Speaker 1: important to know this. They think they're right because they've
Speaker 1: been told by groups like the Brennan Center and these
Speaker 1: paid and bought for legal entities the affiliated with George Soros,
Speaker 1: who define voter fraud in the narrowest possible terms. They
Speaker 1: define it only in the underinclusive way of an active
Speaker 1: impersonation by an illegal voter on behalf of a legal voter.
Speaker 1: When I think the reality is that most people wuld
Speaker 1: say anything that devalues the true way to an honest vote.
Speaker 1: That's voter fraud. And a lot of stuff like that happens,
Speaker 1: and the worst part of it is is legal. So
Speaker 1: so I do think that the representive gates is correct
Speaker 1: to foreshadow what's happening. And that's one of the reasons
Speaker 1: why I wrote the book, and I think, unfortunately it's
Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the books doing as well.
Speaker 1: It is because what happened the last week and a half,
Speaker 1: I said, oh, this is actually a real thing and
Speaker 1: this can happen. Um. Eric Igor is the author of Fraud.
Speaker 1: How the left plans till the next lection? Just final
Speaker 1: question for you before we let you go. How how
Speaker 1: come the Voter Fraud Commission, I mean, just what happened
Speaker 1: to that that seemed like such a good idea and
Speaker 1: it just lost its legs. And I know Chris Kobat
Speaker 1: was running for for you know, his own seats. But
Speaker 1: but it seems like the administration got bullied out of
Speaker 1: of of doing that. But that's a that's a great
Speaker 1: word to use, bullied, because they absolutely did. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are several issues, one of which was the laws
Speaker 1: that they're written, I think prevented true that it prevented
Speaker 1: the commission from doing the job set up the deal.
Speaker 1: I mean, you look no further than the fact that
Speaker 1: Chris Kobak, the Secretary of State of Kansas, was legally
Speaker 1: prohibited from providing Chris Kobak, the vice chair on the
Speaker 1: Presidential Commission on Election and Ministry Election Integrity, from the
Speaker 1: data that they were requesting. And so when you know,
Speaker 1: Chris Kolback decided, well, maybe I'll give myself this data.
Speaker 1: They were sued nineteen times by groups fassilitated with George Soros, Right,
Speaker 1: so they were said they were bullied by lawsuit out
Speaker 1: of existence. But the good news is is that I
Speaker 1: think the motivation to expose and inspect this issue is
Speaker 1: still there. It's just gone to an administrative level, right,
Speaker 1: rather than maybe ministerial if if that's those terms are correct,
Speaker 1: that's what you've got now, Department Home in Security. They're
Speaker 1: taking it seriously. So you've seen people charged in North Carolina.
Speaker 1: You've seen people charged in Texas. So I think I
Speaker 1: think states that decide, listen, we're going to be serious
Speaker 1: about the accuracy and integrity of our elections. They're finding
Speaker 1: people to prosecute, and people are being prosecuted and people
Speaker 1: are going to jail. So we have to leave it there. Eric,
Speaker 1: I'm afraid we're up against the break here. We have
Speaker 1: to leave it there. But I'm so glad you could
Speaker 1: join us today. We've got a lot of people being
Speaker 1: very complimentary about the guests on this show today, and
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're one of them because it's a
Speaker 1: lot of fantastic information. You can find out more in
Speaker 1: Fraud how the Left plan is still the next election. Eric,
Speaker 1: thank you again. Than This is the Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back after this break.
Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemam filling
Speaker 1: in for Mr Sexton. We are in the Freedom Part
Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Coming back to you guys on
Speaker 1: the phone lines now eight four four n eight to
Speaker 1: five eight four D. Buck got Jean in Wisconsin on
Speaker 1: the line. Gene, good evening, Hi, raheem, thanks for taking
Speaker 1: my car. Hey can you hear me? Okay? Absolutely, go
Speaker 1: right ahead. Okay. So here's the thing. I'm nobody, but
Speaker 1: even I can see that this is a swamp issue
Speaker 1: and we have to control the swamp. And so this
Speaker 1: should have been added into the children's book that that
Speaker 1: fellow was talking about earlier. But why why are we
Speaker 1: paying this Brenda Snipes hundred over a hundred hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty hundred seventy five thousand a year to to be
Speaker 1: a mess up? I don't know why we're paying her that.
Speaker 1: Why don't we hire an independent uh in, a bonded
Speaker 1: accounting firm, since that's what they do is count and
Speaker 1: have them administer the the the the voting. I mean,
Speaker 1: why do we keep paying the swamp to swamp us?
Speaker 1: You can do me a favor, would you please mention
Speaker 1: this to Buck and and really talk about it, because
Speaker 1: you guys are you know, at a at a higher level,
Speaker 1: and it's it's a very good it's a very good question,
Speaker 1: and it is. It is a very good question I have.
Speaker 1: I have a somewhat of an opinion on this and
Speaker 1: somewhat of an answer on it. There are there are
Speaker 1: a lot of now verification processes um you know, UH scanners,
Speaker 1: lots of things that are being deployed and that you know,
Speaker 1: some of them be trialed and some work and some don't. UM.
Speaker 1: Some of them are using external firms to make sure
Speaker 1: this happens. Some again, as you say, are doing it
Speaker 1: with these swamp like creatures in charge of the final audits.
Speaker 1: But I would say this as well, be be very
Speaker 1: careful about what you wish for in this scenario, because
Speaker 1: do remember that a lot of these same sort of
Speaker 1: financial firms and auditing firms and and and those types
Speaker 1: were the same type of people who were responsible for
Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight financial crisis. You know, the
Speaker 1: the the sort of swamp of the finance world is
Speaker 1: very very similar to the swamp of the political world.
Speaker 1: The KPMG recently firing people over ethics breaches. PwC now
Speaker 1: investigating UH ethics breaches and and allegations of fraud under
Speaker 1: its purview. So you know, be be very careful what
Speaker 1: you wish for in that regard, because at least with
Speaker 1: the people like Brenda Snipes, she's known, we can hold
Speaker 1: her two accounts somewhat. We can at least make her
Speaker 1: very very famous for these sorts of failings. But when
Speaker 1: you put the put the elections in the hands of
Speaker 1: sort of you know, faceless auditors behind you know whether
Speaker 1: they're independent or whether their government mandated firms in this regard,
Speaker 1: be very very careful about that, Gene. But I do
Speaker 1: appreciate the call, and I will mention, as you say
Speaker 1: to Buck, that this needs this needs much more in
Speaker 1: terms of in terms of scrutiny. This is Raheem Kasan
Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show, and of the second hour.
Speaker 1: Where does the time go? The phone number eight four
Speaker 1: four eight two five eight four four nine hundred. Buck
Speaker 1: will be right back after this break. Welcome back to
Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casan covering for Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton today. Lots of lots of topics to hit. We've
Speaker 1: hit so many already. At the time always goes very
Speaker 1: very quickly. You think about it all day. You think
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting in there for three hours. It's
Speaker 1: going to go really slowly and have loads of time,
Speaker 1: and then before you know it, you're getting unceremoniously turfed
Speaker 1: out of the building and your time's up. You've had
Speaker 1: your shot, and there's just you know, the news cycle,
Speaker 1: especially when when you sort of take an into national
Speaker 1: view of it, is just completely and totally all engulfing.
Speaker 1: Right now, in the last couple of hours, John Kasik
Speaker 1: in New Hampshire saying all options are on the table
Speaker 1: when it comes to challenging President Donald J. Trump for
Speaker 1: the White House. Yes, it made me laugh also, but
Speaker 1: it does make you realize that no matter what this
Speaker 1: president does, no matter how good the economy is, where
Speaker 1: he when he's being by partisan doing criminal justice reform,
Speaker 1: when he's sending troops down to the border to defend
Speaker 1: the Nation States sovereignty, when he's giving these tax cuts
Speaker 1: that are very, very popular with the gops donor class.
Speaker 1: You know, nothing is enough for the r n c's establishment.
Speaker 1: Here you have a bought and paid for member of it.
Speaker 1: John Ksik saying that he doesn't know what he's going
Speaker 1: to do yet in twenty he may well run against
Speaker 1: President Trump. In basilic I say, now, in the first
Speaker 1: hour of the show, we did a little bit of
Speaker 1: chat about the Brexit maschinnations that are taking place in
Speaker 1: the United Kingdom at the moment, I promised you a
Speaker 1: guest from the UK, the chairman of the oldest conservative
Speaker 1: think tank in the country, got tied up a little
Speaker 1: bit during a speech at Oxford University. But I'm delighted
Speaker 1: to say is joining us now. Ben Harris Quinney joins
Speaker 1: on the line to dissect what exactly took place in
Speaker 1: Britain today. Seems like there was a spate of cabinet
Speaker 1: resignations um and uh and and really leaving the Prime
Speaker 1: Minister a bit high and drying. And and it matters.
Speaker 1: And we get that it matters to you guys over
Speaker 1: here because it matters as to whether or not we
Speaker 1: do a free trade deal with the United States. I mean, remember,
Speaker 1: we may be a small land mass, but we are
Speaker 1: not a small economy. Um. You know, a three trillion
Speaker 1: GDP economy, massive, massive importer from the United States already
Speaker 1: and indeed a massive exporter to the United States, already,
Speaker 1: A G seven country, one of the biggest, and and
Speaker 1: one of the ones that is growing rather than shrinking
Speaker 1: like the Eurozone. Nations are Ben Harris Queeneen, welcome to
Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. Thank you very much for me.
Speaker 1: So Ben walk us through a little bit of what
Speaker 1: happened today. Was this was this out of the blue?
Speaker 1: Did people see this coming? What are the implications for
Speaker 1: Brexit as a process of the Prime Minister in and
Speaker 1: of herself, um, and indeed for the the fact that
Speaker 1: we were supposed to be Britain was supposed to be
Speaker 1: at the front of the queue according to President Trump,
Speaker 1: for one of these trade deals that he is also
Speaker 1: so keen to close. Well, it's it's the Guardian k
Speaker 1: not for Britain leaving the European Union. It's intensely complex.
Speaker 1: But the best way I could describe it to an
Speaker 1: American audience is the situation in the UK is as
Speaker 1: if John Kasik was president, surrounded by Trump supporters. We
Speaker 1: have this bizarre situation with Theresa remained supporter and by
Speaker 1: hook or by crook, ended up as Prime Minister without
Speaker 1: a vote taking place, and she's been essentially delivering a
Speaker 1: version of practice that would keep us in the European Union,
Speaker 1: and the game is finally up. We called for her
Speaker 1: to resign yesterday after canvassing many members of Parliament on
Speaker 1: the issue. And finally British people, as you your listeners
Speaker 1: will have learned with me being in our late or
Speaker 1: always slow to act, but they have finally acted. Um,
Speaker 1: and the true believing Conservatives of the Braxfit support of
Speaker 1: the people in the Conservative Party that would be likely
Speaker 1: to support Donald Trump and a trade deal with the
Speaker 1: United States, have finally taken action, and they've submitted the
Speaker 1: letters of no confidence in Theresa May, and she will
Speaker 1: now face a leadership election which will be something equivalent
Speaker 1: to what Americans would would experience with the primary election,
Speaker 1: except not necessarily before a general election. And all that
Speaker 1: has got to take place before March twenty nine, where
Speaker 1: we are scheduled to leave the European Union, and in
Speaker 1: theory we need all our bucks in a row by then.
Speaker 1: So unfortunately, from Donald Trump's point of view, he's willing
Speaker 1: to put us at the front of the queue, but
Speaker 1: we haven't even arrived at the queue yet. Well, it
Speaker 1: sounds like a bit of a mess. Um. The Conservative
Speaker 1: Party is the party of government in the United Kingdom.
Speaker 1: People should know that it is very very scarcely ever
Speaker 1: conservative in its in its policies, or or in its positions.
Speaker 1: What does it bode for for them? And does this
Speaker 1: mean that you might have a hardline socialist the equivalent
Speaker 1: of you know, the love child of Bernie Sanders and
Speaker 1: Alexander Arcassio Cortez um chap called Jeremy Corbyn who leads
Speaker 1: to the Labor Party. Does it give him an inn
Speaker 1: to the keys to Downing Street? It potentially does. Um.
Speaker 1: There is certainly scenario where by this all leads to
Speaker 1: a general election and if we're putting up candidates of
Speaker 1: the Cannaba Theresa May, then she could certainly lose two
Speaker 1: a figure on love Corbin. Um, it's it's a big
Speaker 1: risk and we didn't call for her resignation likely although
Speaker 1: as you say, we are a conservative organization and the
Speaker 1: Conservative Party really being conservative since stature, so we will
Speaker 1: never have the biggest supporter, but we do we do
Speaker 1: realize that there is a great risk inherent in this.
Speaker 1: But because of how bad her dealer was, and particularly
Speaker 1: because and this will seem very bizarre to Americans, it
Speaker 1: locked us into a deal that, according to the wording
Speaker 1: of it, would not allow Britain to ever ever change
Speaker 1: that deal or pull out of it without the consent
Speaker 1: of the European Union, so we would we would be
Speaker 1: locked to that deal. And I think because of that
Speaker 1: it has been worth taking the risk to force a
Speaker 1: leadership election and get someone in that will give us
Speaker 1: the Brexit deal that the British public voted for. Now,
Speaker 1: let's let's just finally relate this for Americans, because of course,
Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in this country in
Speaker 1: the United States where I am right now, who who
Speaker 1: understand and who take the view that the Brexit was
Speaker 1: actually part and parcel of President trump selection, that that
Speaker 1: without the June the twenty three vote in two thousand
Speaker 1: and sixteen in the United Kingdom, that a lot of
Speaker 1: Americans saw and and celebrated that they may have not
Speaker 1: had the gumption to get to that ballot box and
Speaker 1: and do what they did that without sort of people
Speaker 1: like Nigel Farage going down to Jackson, Mississippi, to Canvas
Speaker 1: on behalf of President Trump and doing a lot of
Speaker 1: the television interviews on the run up to that election
Speaker 1: and communicating with the ordinary Americans as to why they
Speaker 1: were draining the swamp in the UK as well. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, twenty sixteen may have gone very very differently.
Speaker 1: And while Donald is draining the swamp in the United States,
Speaker 1: and perhaps not as quickly as a lot of people
Speaker 1: would like, and perhaps that wall isn't being built as
Speaker 1: quickly as a lot of people would like. But while
Speaker 1: at least the victory meant executive authority in the United States,
Speaker 1: it did know such thing in Britain, right, But that's
Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean both both movements were the movements
Speaker 1: of the people against the establishment, that this throwing off
Speaker 1: of centrist politics and liberalism that has been in spite
Speaker 1: of the people of both America and the United Kingdom
Speaker 1: and against their views and values for so long. So
Speaker 1: they're similar in that sense. But as you say, and
Speaker 1: as Nigel Ferage says upon Donald Trump's selection, the difference
Speaker 1: is that an American revolution can be completed in one
Speaker 1: electoral cycle. In Britain it's next twenty or thirty years,
Speaker 1: and they still don't get it, even after everything that's happened,
Speaker 1: even after the clear message that the British people have
Speaker 1: said that they don't want business as usual, they want
Speaker 1: to get rid of this old, tired and decrepid class
Speaker 1: of politicians. Theresa May is still banging that old drum
Speaker 1: against you know, all of the advice of now the
Speaker 1: entirety of Parliament, including opposition parties. So unfortunately our political
Speaker 1: system is is scrossing. And I'm a great believer in
Speaker 1: the American political system for its faults, because it puts
Speaker 1: the American people in charge. What we're now trying to
Speaker 1: run is a reguard action despite the fact we've already won.
Speaker 1: So we're trying to via other means than direct democracy
Speaker 1: and put pressure to see the decision of the British
Speaker 1: people implemented. And that's been a very hard road over
Speaker 1: the last two years, and I know things like Nigel
Speaker 1: Farage are absolutely beside themselves in the efforts that they've
Speaker 1: existed for for for their entire careers to get to
Speaker 1: this point, only to have defeat potentially um snatched from
Speaker 1: the from the doors of victory, because we want the
Speaker 1: argue that all the people are still in power. Ben
Speaker 1: Harris Queeney, the chairman of the Bow Group, thank you
Speaker 1: so much for joining us here. I know it's late
Speaker 1: there and you have an early morning flight. UM so
Speaker 1: really grateful. You can find out more about the Bow
Speaker 1: Group at bow Group dot org. I believe is that right?
Speaker 1: That is right? Absolutely so Bow Group dot Org. Ladies
Speaker 1: and gentlemen, thank you again to Ben. The phone lines
Speaker 1: are open eight four four to eight to five, eight
Speaker 1: four four, nine hundred buck. I want to hear from
Speaker 1: many of you in this hour as possible, so get
Speaker 1: on those lines. We're obviously talking about nationalism, national sovereignty.
Speaker 1: The difference between globalism and nationalism, I think escapes a
Speaker 1: lot of people. I have been touting my my Daily
Speaker 1: Caller article from yesterday, UM, over and over again across
Speaker 1: this across this three hours show. UM. I you can
Speaker 1: find out my Twitter feed. UM that that what's going
Speaker 1: on in the United Kingdom. What you just heard is
Speaker 1: I mean, we tried to obviously to relate it to
Speaker 1: an American audience. I'm not here to try and bore
Speaker 1: you with the politics of foreign countries. But the two movements,
Speaker 1: the Trump movement of the Brexit movement was so inextricably
Speaker 1: linked and and and we share the same values, and
Speaker 1: we share the same wishes for our own nations. UM
Speaker 1: that I think it's it bears repeating, and it bears consideration,
Speaker 1: especially given what happened in the midterm elections. Our movement
Speaker 1: got transfigured from a rebellion from taking back control. You know,
Speaker 1: you had make America great again, and we had we
Speaker 1: want our country back. He know, there's there's a sort
Speaker 1: of nationalistic, sovereignistic nostalgia that both of these things we're
Speaker 1: based off and ours got hijacked by the political establishment
Speaker 1: and turned into the precise thing that it was the
Speaker 1: antithesis of. It got turned into a bureaucratic process. It
Speaker 1: got turned into the administrative states plaything. And I fear
Speaker 1: that right now, especially after these mid terms, especially with
Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi potentially as the House majority leader, that this
Speaker 1: administration's aims and goals are themselves going to be turned
Speaker 1: into a nightmarish, bureaucratic, administrative state like process. And that's
Speaker 1: the thing to consider when comparing and contrasting these two things.
Speaker 1: Our fates are so intrinsically linked that one cannot be
Speaker 1: viewed without the other. This is the Buck Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: My name is Raheim Kasam. I'm covering for Buck today
Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. And we're going to be
Speaker 1: right back after this short break. Welcome back to the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casam fitting in for Buck
Speaker 1: Sexton today. The phone lines are open eight four four
Speaker 1: n eight to five. That's eight four four nine hundred buck.
Speaker 1: When I get some more callers, Steve is in Massachusetts
Speaker 1: on the line, now, Steve, good evening, Good evening, how
Speaker 1: are you. Um. One of the weird things about illegal
Speaker 1: immigration that's actually a symptom of a far greater problem.
Speaker 1: What illegal immigration actually does. It's an anarchy way of
Speaker 1: destroying the national sovereignty of nations and getting them to
Speaker 1: into like this guilt trip because they can't think of
Speaker 1: a largical argument against it. It's like guilt tripping people
Speaker 1: into destroying letting their own national sovereignty being destroyed. Um.
Speaker 1: In America there's a classic example of it, because you
Speaker 1: have cities and towns fighting against counties, counties fighting against states,
Speaker 1: states fighting the federal government. It's like anarchy, and uh,
Speaker 1: it creates a lot of conflict. But that's the real issue.
Speaker 1: UM I I kind of get frustrated when people talk
Speaker 1: about illegal immigration because that's kind of like a diversion.
Speaker 1: The destruction of national sovereignty is really what worries me. Oh,
Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, it is. It is just
Speaker 1: a symptom. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of the
Speaker 1: erosion of national sovereignty of borders of the nation state.
Speaker 1: That's why I wrote the article I did yesterday. Steve,
Speaker 1: tell me, what is in your opinion the point why
Speaker 1: would anybody want to attack the nation state like that? Well, basically,
Speaker 1: I well it there there's a couple of philosophies. One
Speaker 1: is called social libertarianism. In other words, you can travel
Speaker 1: from city to city, state to state, and then they
Speaker 1: expanded into country to country. It's like an anarchy form
Speaker 1: of uh. Well, and it's also tightened with that open
Speaker 1: border thing. And I think it also dovetails into like, um,
Speaker 1: you know, the whole revolutionary aspect of destabilizing nation to
Speaker 1: set it up for a socialist revolution. It's almost like,
Speaker 1: you know, the indoctrination phase is completely so let's go
Speaker 1: straight into destabilizing the nation and what is it? What
Speaker 1: is the other part of it? Um? That's basically I'm
Speaker 1: just curious. I'm you you sound pretty well read. Have
Speaker 1: you ever heard of a guy named Uri Besmanoff. He
Speaker 1: was a KGB defector in the eighties, and he basically
Speaker 1: explained to the Sophia strategy for destroying as a four
Speaker 1: step process for destabilizing and destroying a nation start indoctrination.
Speaker 1: I remember, I remember reading about that several years ago,
Speaker 1: you know, the it's interesting with with the cultural Marxism,
Speaker 1: with all of that that had happened, and and and frankly,
Speaker 1: as much as we now know about what was going
Speaker 1: on in both the United States and in Western Europe
Speaker 1: in terms of the the the the you know, whether
Speaker 1: it's the LGBT stuff or whether it was the illegal
Speaker 1: immigration stuff, as much as we now know, we still
Speaker 1: have a situation where the ordinary person out there is
Speaker 1: so easily dragged along by the propaganda they get at school,
Speaker 1: the propaganda you see at university, or the propaganda you
Speaker 1: get in the news media. Steve, how do we fix that? Um?
Speaker 1: A little, definitely with education. People have to get over
Speaker 1: their guilt because what happens what the left does is
Speaker 1: they'll create an argument, a complex argument. And because a
Speaker 1: lot of times when if I don't have a rational
Speaker 1: argument for against something, you know, the tendency is to
Speaker 1: go along with it. But my solution from a United
Speaker 1: States standpoint is to read upon the federalist papers, to
Speaker 1: read upon national sovereignty, read upon the Constitution, and basically,
Speaker 1: we as a nation, we need to refamiliarize ourselves why
Speaker 1: we went from the Articles of Confederation to a strong
Speaker 1: federal government. Absolutely, I completely agree with you. You know, Steve,
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fellow at a group called the
Speaker 1: Claremont Institute, and the Claremont Institute put out I mean,
Speaker 1: they do all the sorts of publications. They have a
Speaker 1: journal every quarter. And I'll tell you for me, especially
Speaker 1: as somebody from who wasn't born in the United States
Speaker 1: and who didn't even get a cursory education, maybe that
Speaker 1: helps nowadays. I don't know in in US history, Um,
Speaker 1: the Claremont Review of Books is, isn't It's just the
Speaker 1: best source you could possibly imagine for the for the
Speaker 1: as you say, the arguments that came out of the
Speaker 1: Federalist papers and so on and so forth. So I
Speaker 1: commend that to you, and Steve, thank you so much
Speaker 1: for the excellent call. Here this this evening on the
Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, we came to work. I know I'm
Speaker 1: not getting asylum because they don't give you asylum for hunger,
Speaker 1: said Carlos Jose Romero, who's on the migrant caravan. That
Speaker 1: is a quote from the Guardian that came out today,
Speaker 1: admitting that This is economic migration, not asylum seekers. This
Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Casa right back
Speaker 1: after this break. Welcome back to the Bucks Sexton Show.
Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Casam here filling in for Buck Sexton in
Speaker 1: aided the Freedom Hut this evening, and I intend to
Speaker 1: burn it to the ground when I leave. Now. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. Somebody will take me seriously. Um, the
Speaker 1: phone lines are open eight four four eight two five
Speaker 1: eight four for nine hundred buck. I know we've jumped
Speaker 1: around a bit this evening, but everything is so intertwined
Speaker 1: at the moment, whether it's Jim Acosta on migrant caravans
Speaker 1: or Jim Acosta and CNN suing the White House for
Speaker 1: banning Jim Acosta. Basically, Jim Acosta is the news right now,
Speaker 1: and that's what Jim Acosta wanted. Jim Acosta. When Jim
Speaker 1: Acosta stands up and talks about Jim Acosta, he wants
Speaker 1: us to talk about Jim Acosta. So we're talking about
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta. That's a lot of Jim Acosta. It's too
Speaker 1: much any Jim Acosta Acosta. But there is an interesting
Speaker 1: development in this case. Um, the CEO of the One
Speaker 1: American News Network tweeted out earlier today that they were
Speaker 1: going to file in the CNN versus the White House
Speaker 1: court trial whatever. It is, an amicus brief that is
Speaker 1: a stakeholder submission effectively in favor of the White House.
Speaker 1: And the reason that's interesting is because everyone else, I think,
Speaker 1: including Fox News, has filed an amicus brief in favor
Speaker 1: of CNN. So we have the president of the One
Speaker 1: American News Network joining us on the line now, Charles Herring,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this evening, sir,
Speaker 1: my pleasure. Hey, Charles, tell us you stand out amongst
Speaker 1: the crowd of those supporting CNN in their endeavor to
Speaker 1: litigate one person's access to the White House, because, let's
Speaker 1: face it, CNN has other people with access. So this
Speaker 1: is just again about Jim Acosta himself. This is not
Speaker 1: about the free press as far as I'm concerned. But
Speaker 1: tell us One American News, which I think is fantastic,
Speaker 1: and and I and I go on there with your
Speaker 1: with your great hosts and interviews a lot um. How
Speaker 1: did you come to this decision and what does it mean? Well,
Speaker 1: we came to this decision a long time ago. I've
Speaker 1: been in the briefing room a number of times in
Speaker 1: the back of the briefing room with our reporters sitting
Speaker 1: in the briefing room asking questions, and I've seen just
Speaker 1: too many times where Mr Acosta uh once to grandstand,
Speaker 1: interrupt and continue speaking when other reporters are called upon,
Speaker 1: including our own, and he's hindering other reporters from being
Speaker 1: able to ask meeting for questions. And one thing that
Speaker 1: we all like about the briefing room and what we
Speaker 1: like about a free press is there's diversity and questions
Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen when Jim Acosta wants to grandstand.
Speaker 1: And so I've had a problem with Jim Acosta, one
Speaker 1: specific individual, not CNN, with Jim Acosta himself for his
Speaker 1: lack of professionalism in the briefing room. You know. UM.
Speaker 1: One that I find very interesting is if somebody would
Speaker 1: have said to you or anyone uh, any individual of
Speaker 1: your audience, somebody was in the briefing room interrupting, preventing
Speaker 1: other reporters from asking questions, and you asked, who is
Speaker 1: that person, just about everybody would say Jim Acosta. His
Speaker 1: behavior has been going on for too long, and CNN
Speaker 1: has done nothing about it, and obviously there's a reason
Speaker 1: for that, and we can all speculate that they like
Speaker 1: his behavior, and the White House Correspondence Association has done
Speaker 1: nothing about it, and finally somebody has done something about
Speaker 1: it administration, and it's a big controversy. Frankly, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why it's a controversy. For me, it's a very
Speaker 1: simple issue. He's disruptive, he's unprofessional, He's tying up the
Speaker 1: precious time for other reporters to ask meaningful questions of
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, and something needed to
Speaker 1: be done. So we're supportive of the administration. The the
Speaker 1: White House Correspondence Association that a lot of people don't
Speaker 1: realize how that's constituted. Um It's it's got a board, uh,
Speaker 1: and it's people who are taken from across the media pool. Effectively,
Speaker 1: you have Sirius XM's correspondent as the president, ABC's White
Speaker 1: House correspondent as a vice president, NBC's uh senior White
Speaker 1: House producer as the secretary. It's the photographer of The
Speaker 1: New York Times as one of the board members, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Um is is there real diversity in the White House
Speaker 1: Correspondence Association or do they sort of fit in with
Speaker 1: with the Jim Acosta style of doing things. That's why
Speaker 1: they are broadly supportive of what CNN is doing here. Well,
Speaker 1: a couple of things that I do know. I've been
Speaker 1: speaking with other senior management of other media companies that
Speaker 1: have representatives in the briefing room, and they have chairs
Speaker 1: and I know where they stand, and many of them
Speaker 1: are supportive of the administration's actions. They're disappointed with how
Speaker 1: one reporter has been conducting himself during the briefings. And
Speaker 1: so there is a silent group of individuals of of
Speaker 1: media companies UH that are disappointed and Jim Acosta's behavior. UH.
Speaker 1: Clearly there's an issue with the White House Correspondence Association,
Speaker 1: and we saw that at the dinner this year. UM
Speaker 1: a number of people walked out. Clearly, UH, the board
Speaker 1: is not very diverse, and and look, we're trying to
Speaker 1: work within that organization to increase UH the voices from
Speaker 1: all sides. But occasionally you do need to stand up.
Speaker 1: And I believe in self regulation, and I think it's
Speaker 1: important for media UH senior officials to stand up and
Speaker 1: call other people out when they think there's an issue
Speaker 1: and try to do it in an appropriate manner. And
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing here. Look, we don't have any
Speaker 1: issue with CNN. We don't have any issue with the
Speaker 1: questions of any reporter. We just want them to conduct
Speaker 1: themselves in a professional manner and most importantly, don't hinder
Speaker 1: other journalists in the room. Frankly, I think that Jim
Speaker 1: thinks his opinion and his comments are more important than
Speaker 1: the other people in the room, and that's problematic for
Speaker 1: freedom of press and as and as we found out today,
Speaker 1: we're speaking with Charles Hearing, the president of the One
Speaker 1: American News Network. As we found out today, Charles often
Speaker 1: very very misleading. Um CNN has broadcast this clip so
Speaker 1: many times now, and it features Jim Acosta saying that
Speaker 1: there are not migrants at the US border, that they're
Speaker 1: not climbing walls at Tijuana, that there aren't thousands of them,
Speaker 1: that there are only hundreds of them, and that they're
Speaker 1: eligible for asylum, and that they're all mothers and children.
Speaker 1: And and we've we've a lot of us have known
Speaker 1: this for a long time that that was not true.
Speaker 1: But the video came out yesterday and it showed the
Speaker 1: very significant number in excess of I'm told and now
Speaker 1: at the US border and are climbing that border and
Speaker 1: are breaching the rules and know that they're not eligible
Speaker 1: for asylum and one to get in and disappear. And
Speaker 1: so the whole banana apple uh standard the CNN set
Speaker 1: up for themselves. And if you guys haven't seen it,
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm right in saying that one
Speaker 1: American News has a funny parody of that on on
Speaker 1: your guys YouTube channel. Um, you know that that is
Speaker 1: also of of grave concern because they're the ones, are
Speaker 1: they not who are pointing the fingers at President Trump
Speaker 1: every day and screaming liar, liar, pants on fire. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: the most famous clip probably over the last year, which
Speaker 1: is that one of Jim Acosta trying to tell President
Speaker 1: Trump off, turns out to be fake news. Well what's
Speaker 1: clear is that viewers just look around and they do.
Speaker 1: They're very very smart, and they go to multiple sources
Speaker 1: for their news, and they'll see the red pickup trucks
Speaker 1: and the young gentleman after young gentlemen getting in and
Speaker 1: there are no families, it's all men. So we know
Speaker 1: why they're coming up. They've been interviewed by numerous people,
Speaker 1: including our own reporters, and we know that it's for
Speaker 1: economic reasons. A vast majority, and we know a vast
Speaker 1: majority are young men. Matter of fact, it's very difficult
Speaker 1: to find families. We know that other journalists know that,
Speaker 1: and it's been broadly reported. So if one media outlet
Speaker 1: wants to distort the facts, they can do that. That's
Speaker 1: that we don't have a problem with that. Viewers can
Speaker 1: decide and they're smart enough to figure out that there's
Speaker 1: other sources for legitimate news. And I do believe and
Speaker 1: I do the same thing that viewers bounce around. They
Speaker 1: go from TV channel to channel, they go onto the internet,
Speaker 1: they talk with friends, and they'll figure it out. We
Speaker 1: happen to have offices in San Diego, California, and today
Speaker 1: we had people down on the border, and I can
Speaker 1: tell you that there's a lot of people right up
Speaker 1: against the fence, crawling up on the fence, and we
Speaker 1: have the United States military and we have border enforcement
Speaker 1: on the other side trying to figure out what they're doing,
Speaker 1: what their game plan is, and where they're going with this.
Speaker 1: And there's another print media that's making it clear that
Speaker 1: more buses are going to be unloaded with two thousand
Speaker 1: people either tonight or in the morning. So they're amassing
Speaker 1: on the border in Tijuana. And what their plans are
Speaker 1: we don't know, so we'll we'll figure it out and
Speaker 1: your viewers will figure it out. Also, they're smart enough
Speaker 1: to to look around at the media sources and they
Speaker 1: don't need to rely just on one media source such
Speaker 1: as CNN. Well, what I really like about what what
Speaker 1: One America does is, uh, you know, it's dedicated to
Speaker 1: news actually news reports um rather than ours and upon
Speaker 1: hours of opinion based programming and this room for that.
Speaker 1: But but what I really like about about One of
Speaker 1: Erican News, Charles, is the is the commitment um to
Speaker 1: two real reports about what's really going on. And and
Speaker 1: as much as a lot of your colleagues and staff
Speaker 1: are I consider friends, they never give me an easy
Speaker 1: ride when they're interviewing me. It's always it's always with
Speaker 1: a straight bat. So kudos to you guys in your
Speaker 1: organization for doing what you do. Charles Hearing, the president
Speaker 1: of the One American News Network, thank you for joining
Speaker 1: us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you. Well,
Speaker 1: there you go, ladies and gentlemen, the the only news
Speaker 1: network right now standing up to Jim Acosta and standing
Speaker 1: up to see an end's lawsuit against the White House. Um,
Speaker 1: so you know, by all means, if you are in
Speaker 1: preston in favor of that, go ahead and uh and
Speaker 1: and give them your support in the form of Twitter
Speaker 1: follows and and and network views and so on and
Speaker 1: so forth, because I can't. I can't commend them enough
Speaker 1: for the brave decision that they've taken in standing up
Speaker 1: to that chap. And I I know the frustration of
Speaker 1: not being called upon in a room full of journalists
Speaker 1: because there is some hoity toity bigger fish in the
Speaker 1: room who wants to flounce around like a diva for
Speaker 1: the cameras. I've seen it happen. I've been in my
Speaker 1: fair share of press briefings all over the world, in fact,
Speaker 1: and and you know, those of us who have worked
Speaker 1: for smaller organizations or less well known organizations or alternative
Speaker 1: news networks have problems asking questions that I think actually
Speaker 1: more interesting. You know that I think aren't just oh,
Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton, how come you so beautiful today? You know,
Speaker 1: Mr Obama, what makes you so brilliant, Please share it
Speaker 1: with us. You know, some of us actually want to
Speaker 1: ask hard, interesting pressing questions about things, and the likes
Speaker 1: of Jim Acosta just just dominate, you know, the room,
Speaker 1: dominate the time. Um, and that is not I mean,
Speaker 1: he is impeding press freedom more so than President Trump
Speaker 1: or the illustration, as far as I'm concerned is. And
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to to bring on Charles Herring
Speaker 1: from the One American News Network too to talk to
Speaker 1: us about what what O a N is doing. I
Speaker 1: know more and more people are watching O A N
Speaker 1: now as well. We had a film that I was
Speaker 1: a part of called Trump at War and O E N.
Speaker 1: We're the first outlet to to run the whole film,
Speaker 1: uh there before the before the midterm elections, sort of
Speaker 1: setting out the stall of the midterm elections. Very interesting film. Indeed,
Speaker 1: you can still catch it um online on YouTube. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I think it was on Western journal and Western
Speaker 1: Journalism as well. UM. Alright, the phone line is still open, ladies, gentlemen,
Speaker 1: eight to five. We're gonna go to a quick break now.
Speaker 1: When we come back, UM, hopefully more of your calls
Speaker 1: and a couple of things to wrap up. But we're
Speaker 1: coming to the end of the show, which is the
Speaker 1: saddest time for me, mostly because I love the sound
Speaker 1: of my own voice, but also, I mean, really, there
Speaker 1: is so much news, and for a nerd like me,
Speaker 1: you know, more news the better. We'll be right back
Speaker 1: here on the Buck Sexton Show after this short break
Speaker 1: coments here this evening. Marahem Kasa been your fill in
Speaker 1: host for today. I always like to get my thanks
Speaker 1: out of the way early in this last slot because otherwise,
Speaker 1: as the end draws closer and I try and fit
Speaker 1: in more and more, I tend to forget. So I
Speaker 1: want to just thank the the excellent producers of this
Speaker 1: show for all their help today. Also, I hope you
Speaker 1: agree with me, the excellent guests we've had on over
Speaker 1: the course of the show, and of course you guys,
Speaker 1: the callers, the listeners most importantly, because what's the point.
Speaker 1: Otherwise I just be talking to myself. I could be
Speaker 1: staring in a mirror and talking to myself, which you
Speaker 1: know I am prone to do from time to time.
Speaker 1: But I'm glad tonight wasn't one of them. Just a
Speaker 1: couple of things too was on tonight, as We've covered
Speaker 1: a lot, covered a lot of the voting fraud, a
Speaker 1: lot of the gym Acosta stuff, Brexit. Gosh, think about
Speaker 1: all the topics we've taken on today. Turns out Florida
Speaker 1: is now not going to use Browward County's recount tally
Speaker 1: after all of this, because it was uploaded two minutes
Speaker 1: past the three pm Thursday deadline. So, after all the
Speaker 1: cost and the expense and the agony for the voters
Speaker 1: of Florida, I'm gonna end up using those uh, those
Speaker 1: recount totals anyway, A testament so how brilliant Brenda Snipes
Speaker 1: and the Democrats down there really are. And yet and yet,
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, there are states, there are areas, There
Speaker 1: are counties. There are regions that our turning purple, even
Speaker 1: under this president, even under this economy, places turning purple.
Speaker 1: Arizona springing to mind, what is going on? What is
Speaker 1: with people's lack of logic, lack of brain power? How
Speaker 1: are they still voting for the crooked Democrats of this
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I I gotta go down there,
Speaker 1: I think and figure it out. You know, I'm a
Speaker 1: big fan of Arizona. Prescott is a is a big
Speaker 1: favorite of mine. Um, so maybe I'll take a trip
Speaker 1: down there and start to figure some of this stuff out,
Speaker 1: because it really baffles me. I wanted to pick up
Speaker 1: on something that Eric Aga said earlier on as well
Speaker 1: that we didn't get to get into, but I thought
Speaker 1: was a particularly a stoop point, mostly because I've been
Speaker 1: making it for a while. Um, it's that the left
Speaker 1: take Trump literally but not seriously, and the right take
Speaker 1: Trump seriously but not literally. Think about that. There is
Speaker 1: something in the right wing mind at the moment, the
Speaker 1: conservative mind at the moment, that tends towards irony. The
Speaker 1: left used to love irony, remember George Carlin, Bill Mars
Speaker 1: still has a sense of irony, but more or less
Speaker 1: the rest of them let it go. Their literalists. They
Speaker 1: believe everything literally, They take everything at face value. They
Speaker 1: don't question, they don't ask, they're not curious. That's a
Speaker 1: great pity for them, but it's incumbent upon us. And
Speaker 1: I'm glad that Eric Metaxas, who we had earlier on today,
Speaker 1: does things like makes the books for the kids. The
Speaker 1: cultural war, the war for your heart as well as
Speaker 1: your mind, is raging right now, and Buck Sexton will
Speaker 1: be back to captain you again tomorrow. I've been Rehem Kassam,
Speaker 1: you've been great. Have a great evening.