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Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission mission

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Speaker 1: is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. Make

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show begins. Now, Welcome to the Bucks Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: You probably already guessed. I am not Buck Sexton. My

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Speaker 1: name is Rahem Kasam. I am filling in for Buck today,

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Speaker 1: broadcasting live out of the Freedom Hut here in Washington,

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Speaker 1: A very good evening or good afternoon to all of

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Speaker 1: you out there. We have a very great show for

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Speaker 1: you today. Breaches on the border just just a couple

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Speaker 1: of days after CNN's Jim Acosta, remember was lecturing the

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Speaker 1: President of the United States in a press conference, saying

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Speaker 1: they're not jumping over the borders, they're thousands of miles away. Meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: border security has nabbed six hundred and fifty migrants just

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Speaker 1: two hours outside. We've seen video of people jumping over

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Speaker 1: lot of things to discuss today. It's been a busy

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Speaker 1: world to talk about the new the very busy news

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Speaker 1: cycle of the day. One of the things that I've

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Speaker 1: been focusing on has been Brexit. Of course, for those

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Speaker 1: of you that don't know me, I was the former

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Speaker 1: senior adviser to Mr Brexit himself, Nigel Farage. And because

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Speaker 1: it's very late in the evening in in the United

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Speaker 1: It means a lot to a lot of you guys

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Speaker 1: out there here in the United States as well. I

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Speaker 1: know you all know what happened on that June two

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Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, just a few months before you elected

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Speaker 1: President Trump as the outsider candidate, we did something quite

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Speaker 1: outlandish too, which was voting to leave. Seventeen and a

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Speaker 1: half million people, the largest ever showing for one side

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Speaker 1: in a national election, voted to leave the European Union.

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Speaker 1: We said, we've had enough of the bureaucrats, of the commissioners,

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Speaker 1: of the lack of democracy. We've had enough of paying

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Speaker 1: billions upon billions of our finest English pounds into the

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Speaker 1: coffers of an organization that wants its own military force.

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Speaker 1: Now that tells us what of our primary legislation and

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Speaker 1: our regulations look like. Does it sound familiar to you,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, Does in it sound just like what

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton was talking about a few years ago when

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Speaker 1: she called the Trans Pacific Partnership Deal and the Transatlantic

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Speaker 1: Trade and Investment Partnership Deal, replete with its commissioners and

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Speaker 1: unaccountable civil servants. She called it the gold standard of

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Speaker 1: trade deals. Well, i'll tell you what, Thank goodness, President

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Speaker 1: Trump won, because you'd be entering your own sort of

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Speaker 1: European Union style trade organization right now, just at the

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Speaker 1: moment that we're trying to get out. But what happened

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Speaker 1: The Prime Minister a remainder somebody who wanted us to

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Speaker 1: no such thing like leaving. Let me tell you, the

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Speaker 1: Per view, we'd end up paying forty billion pounds into

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Speaker 1: their pot. Again, we'd have no control over our borders,

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Speaker 1: we'd have no control over our trade deals. That that

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Speaker 1: that's off the table. Under this deal proposed by Theresa May,

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Speaker 1: unacceptable that today you had five cabinet ministers resigned in

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Speaker 1: His name is Ben Harris Quinney. He's the chairman of

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Speaker 1: and the rumor is that they're awfully close to getting there.

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Speaker 1: So you know, the UK on tenter hooks at the moment,

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Speaker 1: but in the meantime we'll also be will also be

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Speaker 1: taking some of your calls over the course of this program. Um,

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Speaker 1: We've seen it going on. We saw the footage come

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Speaker 1: And on the flip side, I mean, who's who's CNN's

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Speaker 1: a president he's actually taking some action. So this is

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Speaker 1: a way of celebrating that. But I do think it's

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Speaker 1: it's fun enough that you could even give it as

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Speaker 1: a as a gag gift to somebody who doesn't like Trump,

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Speaker 1: unless they're really really nasty. They will definitely laugh. I mean,

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Speaker 1: everybody says that they're finding it funny. There's a lot

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Speaker 1: of slight humor. There's there's a bird of blue bird

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Speaker 1: that that flits in and out looks a little bit

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Speaker 1: like a twitter bird. So there's a lot of subtle

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Speaker 1: jokes for adults throughout. Yeah, no, I have I have

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Speaker 1: my copy, and I thought it was, um, it was

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Speaker 1: very humorous. I haven't. I haven't gone through all of

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Speaker 1: it and studied it and studied the drawings, indeed, held

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Speaker 1: to figure out who every single character is. That's the key.

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Speaker 1: In fact, the the orange creature. Uh, there's an orange

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Speaker 1: creature in there. And the illustrator told a friend of mine,

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Speaker 1: didn't even tell me. This is my dear friend. The

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Speaker 1: illustrator told another friend that the orange Triceratops is meant

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Speaker 1: to be John Brennan. So what can I tell you?

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Speaker 1: I don't know what if people will discover other things.

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00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, there's all these nasty swamp creatures, and of

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00:27:28,000 --> 00:27:30,159
Speaker 1: course they don't want to leave the swamp because the

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00:27:30,200 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: swamp is made of money. Why would they leave? So

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Speaker 1: there's nothing to do except drain the swamp, and Donald

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00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 1: shows the kind of leadership to get it done. It's uh,

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Speaker 1: as I say, it's a it's a happy book. We're

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Speaker 1: actually building a Donald the Caveman plush so people can

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Speaker 1: get a plush dolluh. And also Mike Lindell of My

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Speaker 1: Pillow is creating a Donald the Caveman pillow. Donald drains

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Speaker 1: the swamp. So it's so this is not going away

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Speaker 1: anytime soon. Well, I gotta tell yeah, I did not

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Speaker 1: ever get a free my pillow, and I've never been

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Speaker 1: paid to advertise my pillows. But I gotta tell you,

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Speaker 1: Mike Lindell changed my life. F y, I I don't

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Speaker 1: know those things that those things are awesome. You're You're

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Speaker 1: James Mike Lindell personally. I You've got Tim Tim Raglan

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Speaker 1: as an illustrator on this book. Award winning illustrator has

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Speaker 1: done many He's brilliant. I mean, look, I knew he

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Speaker 1: had to do it. He and I've done many books together.

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Speaker 1: But he's the one that convinced me to take a

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Speaker 1: serious look at Trump back in the in the early primaries,

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Speaker 1: when I was not sold on Trump. He's the one

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Speaker 1: that insists. He says, this guy's a folk hero. You

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Speaker 1: need to to to watch him at these rallies, and

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Speaker 1: I finally understood. He's like a tall tale figure. He's

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Speaker 1: a folk hero. Donald Trump is a larger than life

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Speaker 1: folk hero for such a time as this in America,

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Speaker 1: and so this book is meant to celebrate that aspect

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Speaker 1: of him. That's why he's a caveman. Of course, everybody

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Speaker 1: in the book is either a caveman or a dinosaur.

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Speaker 1: But He really is kind of like a larger than life,

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Speaker 1: get it done folk hero, and I think that's why

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Speaker 1: he's so beloved and so hated on the other side. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: Eric Metaxas, the author of Donald Drain's The Swamp, I

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Speaker 1: am very I'm very pleased that this occurs, because, like

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Speaker 1: you said, you know, we can often on our side,

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Speaker 1: you know, just focus on the back, just focus on

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Speaker 1: the negative, just focus on the politics. And actually culturally

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Speaker 1: we get beat around the head all over the shop,

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Speaker 1: whether it's in you know, Hollywood or in Manhattan. Bookstores

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Speaker 1: packed to the gunnals, full of full of left wing stuff.

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Speaker 1: So people go into a bookstore, good luck finding this book.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll ask the manager do you have a copy?

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Speaker 1: And if not, why don't you? It's been in the

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Speaker 1: Amazon top one hundred. Uh, it continues to do well.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm gonna be doing TV. They don't have it.

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Speaker 1: It's an astounding thing, obviously because there's biased So I

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Speaker 1: think people need to say to bar the noble managers

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Speaker 1: and so on, but you need, you need to have

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Speaker 1: this in the store. I would have bought five copies,

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Speaker 1: and you know, at at the price they're charging people

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Speaker 1: are buying five copies, you know, for Christmas or for

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Speaker 1: the grandkids whatever. And so it's scandalous to me that

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Speaker 1: we live in a day and age when vast stores

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Speaker 1: like Barnes and Noble don't carry the book. I mean,

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Speaker 1: obviously half of the country loves this president and would

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Speaker 1: be interested in that. Yeah, it was, it was, Eric

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Speaker 1: was exactly the same thing when my book came out

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Speaker 1: in seventeen No go zones, um and and people were

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Speaker 1: asking me, you know, I've looked in my bookstore. I

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Speaker 1: can't get it. They said they can order it in

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Speaker 1: but that'll take two weeks. So a lot of people

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Speaker 1: ended up ordering it on Amazon, which, of course you

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Speaker 1: can get Donald Drains the Swamp on Amazon. But and then,

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Speaker 1: on the other hand, a lot of people don't want

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Speaker 1: to shop at Amazon for obvious reasons, right right, Well,

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Speaker 1: better better to buy this at Amazon than to let

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Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert's book the number one forever. That's my theory.

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Speaker 1: I agree with that, Eric Metaxas, thanks for taking the

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Speaker 1: time out this evening to bring a little bit of

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Speaker 1: joy to us. As you say, it can get a

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Speaker 1: little bit draining and serious. So I'm really glad you've done,

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Speaker 1: Donald drains the swamp and that you can bring a

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Speaker 1: smile to our faces this evening. Thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for rahem God bless you look forward to the next time.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. That is Eric Metaxas. Make sure you pick

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Speaker 1: up a copy of Donald drames This Swamp is a

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Speaker 1: great Christmas present. I will be buying it for several

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Speaker 1: people in my life, several who like President jop and

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Speaker 1: several who don't. I am rahemasm. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. On Thursday of November, the snow is hit

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Speaker 1: the East coast and caused all sorts of misery and problems.

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Speaker 1: But I hear the sun is coming back out tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: The phone lines are open here for you guys. It's

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Speaker 1: eight four four d buck. That's eight four eight to five.

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Speaker 1: So why don't you give me a jingle here in

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Speaker 1: the Freedom Hut keep me company this evening. We can talk, obviously,

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00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,720
Speaker 1: talk about Michael Abernati, obviously talk about Jim Accosta and

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Speaker 1: his big claim that the migrants were not jumping the borders,

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Speaker 1: and they actually are. We've got video of it and

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00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: it's online right now. It's been shown on new sites,

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Speaker 1: It's been shown all over Twitter over the course of today.

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Speaker 1: And UM, I also want to talk to you a

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Speaker 1: little bit, and I'll introde this a little bit right

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Speaker 1: now and do a little bit more in the next

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Speaker 1: segment after the next break. But I had a an

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Speaker 1: article that I wrote in the Daily Caller yesterday. UM.

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Speaker 1: The headline of it was Trump understands the important difference

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Speaker 1: between nationalism and globalism and and it went pretty pretty

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Speaker 1: dawn viral over the course of the last twenty four hours.

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Speaker 1: And I think the reason it did there's not just

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Speaker 1: because President Emmanuel Macron of France chose a somber ceremony

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Speaker 1: of the Armistice commemorations to attack President Trump into attack nationalism,

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Speaker 1: but also because a lot of people don't quite understand

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Speaker 1: the concept, or they understand it at a farcical ethno

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Speaker 1: white nationalist, racist, xenophobe, homophoe, herb is lamophobe, I'm quite

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Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton now, UM, at that level, they don't actually

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Speaker 1: know the history or philosophy of nationalism, and they certainly

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00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:15,600
Speaker 1: don't know that it was actually globalism, or rather it's

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Speaker 1: root philosophy of imperialism that was really to blame for

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Speaker 1: the Great Wars of the twentie century. So yes, back

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Speaker 1: to serious topics. We'll do more of it after this break.

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Speaker 1: Is the buck Sexton Show. Him will be right back.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the buck Sexton Show. This is Raheim

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Speaker 1: because I'm filling in for the great Bucks Sexton here

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Speaker 1: from the Freedom Heart and Washington, d C. Florida's Senate

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Speaker 1: Counts is heading to a hand recount. Gosh, what is

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Speaker 1: in the water down there in Broward County? Let me

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Speaker 1: ask you that I want to take some more calls,

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Speaker 1: so I get on the line eight four four to

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Speaker 1: five four Buck. I think we have Skippy and Boston

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Speaker 1: on the line. I want to bring Skippy in Boston

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Speaker 1: and if if we can connect there. Hey, Skibby, how

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Speaker 1: you doing? How are you reading? I hope you comment

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Speaker 1: about distrabanities statement after I don't know he was. It

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Speaker 1: was just out from being availed or what, and it

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Speaker 1: was amazing, went he satellites, I'm going to be brief,

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Speaker 1: and to Saint. When you were brief, you were already

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Speaker 1: be at the Saint for you repetitious. But but when

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Speaker 1: he said the statement, my my, you know, the alarm

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Speaker 1: clock went out of my head when I heard him

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Speaker 1: say I've never hit a woman. I will never hit

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Speaker 1: a woman. I just women. Twenty four hours ago, there

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Speaker 1: was multiple reports when he was being arrested. There was

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Speaker 1: reports of them shouting, but she hit me first. Therefore,

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Speaker 1: if she hit me first, that has to me he

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Speaker 1: had a second, which kills his statement of I have

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Speaker 1: never had a woman. Well, that's right, I mean the

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Speaker 1: and we have to obviously be fair and careful with this.

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Speaker 1: The allegations are still allegations, but the witness reports suggested

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Speaker 1: that at the time he had said something along the

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Speaker 1: lines of she hit me first, and then as you're

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Speaker 1: right to say, skippy. His his statement says, uh, I

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Speaker 1: have never struck a woman. I will never strike a woman.

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Speaker 1: I have been an advocate for women's rights my entire career,

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Speaker 1: and I'm going to continue to be an advocate. Now,

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Speaker 1: something apart from that, skibby, something strange strikes me about

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Speaker 1: that attitude. A couple of weeks ago, I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know this, conservative journalist Laura looma independent investigative journalist,

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Speaker 1: um he tweeted Michael Abernardi tweeted a very unflattering picture

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Speaker 1: of her, and the intent of that picture was obviously

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Speaker 1: to I suppose what the left would call body shame

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Speaker 1: her right, make make fun of her appearance. Um so, so, firstly,

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Speaker 1: that doesn't sound like particularly like being an advocate to me.

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Speaker 1: It also doesn't seem like you're much of an advocate

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Speaker 1: for women's rights. And you tell me if I'm wrong

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Speaker 1: or right on this, Skibby. If you're presenting people to

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Speaker 1: the public whose allegations are so false that they end

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Speaker 1: up disbelieving women in the long haul, what do you

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Speaker 1: think that's right to show he was He was just

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Speaker 1: moving in. He's trying to make a name from tot

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Speaker 1: trying to make mostly make some money. And can I

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Speaker 1: ask you something else? Who was the solid that was

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Speaker 1: up in Minnesota who just became that attorney general? He

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Speaker 1: was at his wife for girlfriends and I'm talking about

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Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of it going on out there, Skippy. Unfortunately,

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Speaker 1: we're up against the hard break. But I thank you

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Speaker 1: for your call. I will I will follow up on

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Speaker 1: your question momentarily in the meantime. This is the Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Kassam. We're going to be back

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Speaker 1: after this break. Dozens of people gathered on the South side.

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Speaker 1: Some climbed the barrier and sat on it, Others walked

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Speaker 1: the structure while Border patrol agent kept an eye on

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Speaker 1: the crowd. This man dressed in red and white jumping

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Speaker 1: onto US soil. That person and others who did come

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Speaker 1: across US ran back when border patrol agents approached. It's

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Speaker 1: not known for certain who these people are. The Border

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Speaker 1: Patrol said it believes some could be from that caravan

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Speaker 1: that has been making its way through Mexico from Honduras.

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Speaker 1: That's the latest situation at the border. I'm Rheim Kassam.

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Speaker 1: This is the buck Sexton Show'm going to be discussing

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Speaker 1: this issue now with another one of our fantastic guests

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Speaker 1: from the Center for Immigration Studies. We have their director

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Speaker 1: of Policy Studies, Jessica m vaughan, joining us on the line. Jessica,

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Speaker 1: thank you and welcome to the buck Sexton Show. Glad

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Speaker 1: to be with you. So um, I was of the belief, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: that that because I get all of my news from

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Speaker 1: Jim Acosta, and and I listened to his every word

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Speaker 1: and I hang on it, and everything he says is

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Speaker 1: obviously true. And when he got up last week in

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Speaker 1: the White House and said, these people are not at

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Speaker 1: the border. They're nowhere near the thousands of my is away.

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Speaker 1: And even when they are going to get to the border,

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Speaker 1: they're not going to try and climb over fences. What happened.

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Speaker 1: I can't believe that Jim Acosta was wrong. Well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he was like so many in the news media, reporting

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Speaker 1: without having actually seen what was going on and without

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Speaker 1: any kind of um experienced nuance or you know, talking

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Speaker 1: to real experts in the field. Um. Of course, the

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Speaker 1: caravan was going to get here quickly. They got rides.

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Speaker 1: In fact, I think some probably got here even earlier

647
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Speaker 1: than today, the ones who peeled off and went with smugglers.

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Speaker 1: And obviously they're not all peacefully seeking asylum as the

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Speaker 1: President suggested through the legal ports of entry. They're not

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Speaker 1: all starving mothers and children. Uh, they are here to

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Speaker 1: try to get into the United States, and the organizers

652
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Speaker 1: are trying to make a political point for open borders. Um.

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Speaker 1: I can't say the particularly brave either. Hearing about the

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Speaker 1: one who jumped down to the beach and then ran

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Speaker 1: away when he's all the border patrol, I'm surprised he

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Speaker 1: didn't try to claim asylum as the lawyers suggested they do,

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Speaker 1: although I guess he wouldn't be successful because he was

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Speaker 1: entering illegally. But it is pretty interesting. There are many

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Speaker 1: many young men, the classic kind of people who are

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Speaker 1: trying to enter illegally all these years, but who have

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Speaker 1: been um sharing the stage now with people coming with kids.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, this isn't an adventure and an opportunity

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Speaker 1: for a lot of these people. They're not fleeing persecution.

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Speaker 1: If they were, they would have looked for safe haven

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Speaker 1: in Mexico. They're they're here to try to get in

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Speaker 1: because they think they can get away with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I must say, um, the Center for Immigration Studies

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Speaker 1: on the website, you have a you have a migrant

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Speaker 1: caravan uh map describing the location. Uh. You know, because

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Speaker 1: you actually don't see this very much, very often on

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Speaker 1: the on the news media, especially not some certain channels. Um.

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Speaker 1: And it was it was clear to me a couple

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Speaker 1: of a couple of weeks ago when I started doing

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Speaker 1: my own research into this and finding out just how

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Speaker 1: far back this sort of trajectory and history of this

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Speaker 1: sort of long term undermining of US border sovereignty, how

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Speaker 1: far back it stretches, and how far back some of

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Speaker 1: these halfway houses go and who they're funded by historically,

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Speaker 1: it was obvious to me, and it sounds like it

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Speaker 1: was obvious to you that this was going to arrive

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Speaker 1: at least a couple of hundred several hundred, um if

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Speaker 1: not more, We're going to arrive very soon. It's why

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Speaker 1: I actually did scratch my head a little bit last week,

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Speaker 1: because Jim Acosta wasn't sort of saying this down the

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Speaker 1: pub with his mates where he wouldn't be able to

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Speaker 1: be held to account for making these counter factual statements.

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Speaker 1: He was saying on probably the most watched clip now

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Speaker 1: in the last three or four months. I mean that

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Speaker 1: that altercation in the White House is probably the number

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Speaker 1: one thing that's been watched anywhere in the world. And

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Speaker 1: he outright lied, And I suppose a lot of people

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Speaker 1: they want to know whether it was a knowing lie

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Speaker 1: or whether he's just ignorant on this. I mean, what

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Speaker 1: do you think? That is a very good question. I'm

695
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Speaker 1: not sure if he's just kidding himself or deliberately misleading

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Speaker 1: his audience for political reasons. It sure appears to me

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Speaker 1: that his desire to embarrass or discredit or undermine President

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Speaker 1: Trump seems to take priority or get the best of

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Speaker 1: any um journalistic impulses that he may have or at

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Speaker 1: least be trained in. I think that that you know

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Speaker 1: that that's what he's interested in doing, you know, regardless

702
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Speaker 1: of what the truth is, is that he's there to

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Speaker 1: grandstand and to make the president or try to make

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Speaker 1: the President look bad, rather than report the news or

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Speaker 1: ask a question. I wanna I wanna play for you here, Jessica,

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Speaker 1: the clip from President Trum what he said, and get

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Speaker 1: your reaction to that. Mr producer, Let's bay clips to

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Speaker 1: please the Democrats have launched an assault on the sovereignty

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Speaker 1: of our country, the security of our nation, and the

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Speaker 1: safety of every single American. The crisis on our border

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Speaker 1: right now as we speak is the sole result of

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Speaker 1: Democrat laws and activists Democrat judges that prevent us from

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Speaker 1: returning illegal aliens from Central America and all over the world.

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Speaker 1: It's called Catchen Release. Jessica Vaughan, director of Policy Studies

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Speaker 1: at the Center for Immigration Studies, Is he on the

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Speaker 1: money there? Yes, he is, actually um. The the biggest

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Speaker 1: problem is that there is a judge in California by

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Speaker 1: the name of Judge Dolly g who has greatly restricted

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Speaker 1: what the federal government can do in handling these cases

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Speaker 1: of parents and kids who cross illegally, basically saying that

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Speaker 1: that the that the government can never detain kids, or

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Speaker 1: at least not for longer than twenty days, even if

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Speaker 1: they arrive illegally with their parents. And even the Obama

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Speaker 1: administration fought this judge over this interpretation of a settlement

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Speaker 1: agreement that was reached years ago on how to treat

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Speaker 1: kids who arrived by themselves at the border and how

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Speaker 1: to UM look out for kids who may have been

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Speaker 1: trafficked into the United States. Uh. And she has basically

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Speaker 1: expanded this to cover anyone under the age of a

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Speaker 1: teen who arrives at the border are either with their

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Speaker 1: kids or with a smuggler, or excuse me, with their

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Speaker 1: parent or with a smuggler, and that is constraining the government. UM.

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Speaker 1: The original law that that UM set up the parameters

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Speaker 1: for dealing with a company Miners was written by Democrats. Now,

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Speaker 1: it was signed into law by President George Bush. But

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Speaker 1: it is fair to call it a democratic law because

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Speaker 1: they wrote it. UM. But you know, Republicans stupidly went

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Speaker 1: along with it. Never imagining that we would see this

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Speaker 1: flood of people arriving with their kids because traditionally people

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Speaker 1: have always come without their kids and left them behind. Well,

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Speaker 1: I will, I will, I will say this. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I don't think it's necessarily that those Republicans of

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Speaker 1: that time didn't foresee this. I think they didn't care.

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Speaker 1: They didn't quite understand, you know, that it was an

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Speaker 1: attack on on on national sovereignty and and and it

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Speaker 1: escaped them and escaped them because their priorities at the

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Speaker 1: time were not you know, the nation state and not

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Speaker 1: border security. And we hadn't started hearing of all the

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Speaker 1: horror stories yet of of of what illegal immigration was

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Speaker 1: doing uh to the United States. And I want to

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Speaker 1: ask you a couple of questions, um, because I know

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Speaker 1: we were limited on time here. I just wanted to

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Speaker 1: ask two questions to Jessica Vaughan. Number One, in your

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Speaker 1: estimation how many have started to arrive at that Tijuana border,

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Speaker 1: because you know, the Daily Mail says fifteen hundred UM,

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Speaker 1: NBC says four hundred, CNN saying negative three million, UM.

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Speaker 1: How what at this point? What is the what is

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Speaker 1: the estimate of what's going on down there? Because because

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Speaker 1: the the info seems a little bit a little bit

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Speaker 1: confused at the moment. One of my colleagues is reporting

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Speaker 1: from Texas and interviewing his contacts UM in the US

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Speaker 1: military and Texas law enforcement agencies, and he says, there

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Speaker 1: are one thousand, seven hundred and fifty who have arrived

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Speaker 1: in Tijuan uh, which is about three times the capacity

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Speaker 1: of the existing migrant shelters in Tijuana. Wow. And and

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Speaker 1: as a as a sort of an asside to that,

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Speaker 1: what what do you foresee now happening? How do these

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Speaker 1: people get uh dealt with processed? UM and and other estimates.

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Speaker 1: So there is the historical averages of how many get

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Speaker 1: less in Well, the caravan in the spring, pretty much

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Speaker 1: everyone who applied for asylum was allowed into the United

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Speaker 1: States to present that claim and immigration court UM. A

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Speaker 1: few of them were denied because of previous deportations or

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Speaker 1: criminal history, but almost all of them were let in UM.

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Speaker 1: And what's going to happen here is that they're going

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Speaker 1: to be told to sort of take a number that

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Speaker 1: they can't be allowed in to ask for asylum until

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Speaker 1: we have the capacity to process them. And that could

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Speaker 1: take a very very long time because are already lots

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Speaker 1: of people waiting. I mean this, this kind of slow

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Speaker 1: motion caravan of asylum seekers has been going on for

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Speaker 1: at least a year with hundreds of people arriving at

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Speaker 1: these ports of entry. So they're gonna be um process

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Speaker 1: very slowly. There I suspect that um fewer of them

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Speaker 1: will be let in than in the spring, because what

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Speaker 1: we know is that only half the people who let

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Speaker 1: in asking for asylum will actually fill out the asylum

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Speaker 1: application form once we let them in, and half of

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Speaker 1: them will not show up for their court hearings, and

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Speaker 1: only ten or so will ever be found qualified for asylum.

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Speaker 1: What they don't want asylum, they want to get into

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Speaker 1: the United States. And unless the Trump administration has come

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Speaker 1: up with some with better ways to apply the law

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Speaker 1: for asylum seekers, than most of them are going to

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Speaker 1: get in, but just at a slow pace. But but

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Speaker 1: that's no comfort to the communities around the country that

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Speaker 1: that are going to have to absorb these people who

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Speaker 1: will basically join the illegal population. It's and speaking of which,

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Speaker 1: let's just clarify something quickly, because you know, you still

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Speaker 1: see a lot of people using that eleven million figure.

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Speaker 1: There are eleven million illegals in the United States. Some go, okay, yeah, fine,

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Speaker 1: that was a couple of years ago. Maybe there are

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Speaker 1: thirteen or fourteen now. But actually somebody said to me

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Speaker 1: UM a few days ago, maybe even last night, that

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Speaker 1: they were of the belief that it's more like twenty

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Speaker 1: to thirty million. Where does the Center for Immigration Studies

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Speaker 1: fall on this? What are your estimates? We estimate that

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Speaker 1: there are about twelve million people here. UM. We used

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Speaker 1: to Census Bureau data to try to ascertain that and

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Speaker 1: and adjust for an under account that we know happens.

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Speaker 1: We haven't been able to corroborate that the higher figures

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Speaker 1: through any any other methods like UM, schools, hospitals, law enforcement,

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Speaker 1: or any other way. It's impossible to really have an

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Speaker 1: accurate count because you know, it's just not gonna not

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Speaker 1: not possible. But Census Bureau is pretty good at it

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Speaker 1: because they send all sorts of UM staff out to

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Speaker 1: encourage people to fill out the forms. Because local governments

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Speaker 1: depend on accurate numbers to get certain kinds of funding

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Speaker 1: from the from the federal government, so we think it's

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Speaker 1: close to accurate. Twelve million is what we say. Jessica Vaughn,

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Speaker 1: the Center for Immigration Studies, Director of Policy Studies. Thank

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Speaker 1: you so much for joining us here this evening on

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. Thanks for having me. They're good

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen. What do you think the phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open? Eight four four n eight to five. I

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Speaker 1: am of the belief that the number is higher, but

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Speaker 1: Jessica is also a very very competent and well known

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Speaker 1: and well respected expert. There was a Yale Insights study

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Speaker 1: recently that put the number between I think eighteen and

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Speaker 1: twenty two million UM. But as Jessica says, there's there's

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Speaker 1: census day to and there's hospital data, and there's school data.

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Speaker 1: I have something to say about it. One is bad

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Speaker 1: enough to maintain border security. The nation should not tolerate

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Speaker 1: one illegal immigrant. My country has the same problem. The

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Speaker 1: United Kingdom has the same problem we have. We seem

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Speaker 1: to have this buffer, we seem to have this general

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Speaker 1: acceptance that, yeah, there's going to be a certain number

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Speaker 1: of people who have broken the law, and that's fine.

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Speaker 1: I suppose this is this is the mentality that our

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Speaker 1: governments operate, that there is not a right and wrong,

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Speaker 1: but there is not illegal or illegal, but there is

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Speaker 1: some sort of acceptable gray area. I think to yourself,

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Speaker 1: why why would we accept a gray area like that.

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Speaker 1: We don't accept gray areas in murder cases, or in

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Speaker 1: rape cases, or in theft cases, burglaries. Yeah, that guy

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Speaker 1: kind of burgled your house, but did really burgle you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he took the TV, he left the DVD player, he

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Speaker 1: left the stereos, And don't worry about it. It's a

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Speaker 1: gray area. This is the Buck Sexton Show and Rhea,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna go to a quick break back, hopefully more

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Speaker 1: of your calls and much more eight four four to

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Speaker 1: five A four four nine D Buck, We'll be right back.

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Speaker 1: Radical Democrats want to turn back the clock forward the

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Speaker 1: rule of corrupt, power hungry, global less. You know what,

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Speaker 1: the globuless is, right, you know what that loveless is

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Speaker 1: a globulens. There's a person that wants the blog to

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Speaker 1: do well, frankly, not caring about our country so much.

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Speaker 1: And you know what, we can't have that. You know,

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Speaker 1: they have a word. It sort of became old fashioned.

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Speaker 1: It's called a nationalist. And I say, really, we're not

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Speaker 1: supposed to use that word. You know what I am.

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Speaker 1: I'm a nationalist, Okay, I'm a nast us President Trump.

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Speaker 1: They're speaking a couple of weeks ago now about his nationalism,

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Speaker 1: a word that sent the talking heads on your televisions

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Speaker 1: into a big old frenzy. I wrote a piece for

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Speaker 1: The Daily Caller this week yesterday in fact, about nationalism,

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Speaker 1: and about specifically why President Emmanuel Macron was mistaken in

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Speaker 1: trying to use that Armistice one year anniversary commemoration to

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Speaker 1: attack President Trump. In the article, which I've just tweeted,

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Speaker 1: by the way, if you want to follow me on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: it's at Raheem Kasam, that's k A. S. S A M.

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Speaker 1: I wrote about the resistance leader from the Second World War,

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Speaker 1: General Charles de gaul, who went on to be President

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Speaker 1: of France himself. He said in and I think this

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Speaker 1: is a good phrase to deploy if ever you get

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Speaker 1: accosted by globalists. He said, he who does not love

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Speaker 1: his mother more than his more than other mothers, and

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Speaker 1: his fatherland more than other fatherlands, loves neither his mother

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Speaker 1: nor his fatherland. I want to get a response to

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Speaker 1: that um, and of course, the wider debate surrounding border

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Speaker 1: security and sovereignty from another one of the great callers

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Speaker 1: on the line, Rich is in West by God, Virginia, Richard,

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Speaker 1: are you there West Virginia? Trade absolutely, Richard, take it away.

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Speaker 1: As far as I really love a President Trump, A

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Speaker 1: lot of the stuff he says about the immigrants, when

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Speaker 1: he's saying innocent people, there's a lot of them did

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Speaker 1: generates are just were criminals, and he just believes you

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Speaker 1: are to stand them back. And these country, these smaller

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Speaker 1: countries are the samer and moment. They need to do something,

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Speaker 1: change the way the country is being run so they

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Speaker 1: can can come merge. Heaven to send them over here.

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Speaker 1: It's just I just say he's attitude when it comes

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Speaker 1: to that, all kind of different things. I don't think

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Speaker 1: he's doing a great too. I haven't think he's probably

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Speaker 1: the best person that we ever heard. Well, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it brilliant? Actually, Richard to say to those people, hey, look,

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Speaker 1: if you want that country to get better, probably the

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Speaker 1: best thing is not to leave that country. How can

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Speaker 1: how can these nations? How can these nations improve? How

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00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:38,880
Speaker 1: can things get better? How can economies improve? How can

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00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,960
Speaker 1: innovations happen? If you don't have the manpower, the people

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Speaker 1: capital to do it. If you're best and brightest are

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Speaker 1: being encouraged to move to other countries. Well, what happens.

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Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you Richard for

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Speaker 1: the call. We'll be right back after another break. Welcome back.

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Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahm because I'm

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Speaker 1: filling in for Buck Sexton today, live from the Freedom

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Speaker 1: Hut in a snowy and slushy Washington, d C. The

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Speaker 1: lines are open. Here the phone number for you all

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Speaker 1: out there. You want to get something off your chest,

911
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Speaker 1: Do you have a question, do you have a comment?

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Speaker 1: Keep it clean? Eight four four nine hundred to eight

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Speaker 1: to five. That's eight four four nine hundred Buck. We've

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Speaker 1: heard from a couple of callers already across the show.

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Speaker 1: I love the callers. The callers, for me are the

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Speaker 1: best part of the show. No offense to the guests

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Speaker 1: and myself. UM, but I'm more interested in what you

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Speaker 1: have to say than what I have to say. UM.

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Speaker 1: And and you know that's that's I think the most

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Speaker 1: important part of this this presidency as well here in

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Speaker 1: the United States. I think the president does what he

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Speaker 1: does because he's interested in in how people, ordinary hard

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Speaker 1: working people who do the things that you guys do

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Speaker 1: out there every day, how they want the country. I've

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Speaker 1: got a great guest lined up for you for this

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Speaker 1: segment as well, Eric Eggers. He is a he's a

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Speaker 1: researcher and author from the Government Accountability Institute. He's the

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Speaker 1: author of a new book called Fraud. And you might

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Speaker 1: know the Government Accountability instu g I and and Eric

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Speaker 1: because of the Clinton Cash book, an investigation from just

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Speaker 1: before the election. So I really wanted to have Eric

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Speaker 1: on this evening. I'm glad he could join us um

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Speaker 1: to discuss this new book, the subtitle of which is

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Speaker 1: How the Left Plans to steal the next election. And

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Speaker 1: we've touched so far in the first hour or so

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Speaker 1: on voter fraud, on what's going on in Florida, and

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Speaker 1: President Trump channeling the views of ordinary people and saying, well,

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Speaker 1: hold on a second, how does it take a week

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Speaker 1: class to count these ballots? Where are these ballot boxes disappearing?

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Speaker 1: To again, in any other part of life, if this

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Speaker 1: were to happen, we wouldn't tolerate it, and we certainly

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Speaker 1: I don't think should be tolerating it when it comes

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Speaker 1: to something as sacrosanct as people's votes, as how you

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Speaker 1: decide who governs a nation, who governs a state, even

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Speaker 1: if it were the election of a dog catcher, we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't tolerate something like this. And Matt Gates came out

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Speaker 1: today and said, well, actually this is a warm up

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Speaker 1: act for the Democrat Party of America who planned to

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Speaker 1: steal the election by doing things like they're doing in

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Speaker 1: Broward County. I want to bring on Eric AGA's now

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Speaker 1: to talk about this. Eric. Good, good evening to you. Hey,

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Speaker 1: thanks for him. It's great to be here. But if

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Speaker 1: if it'd be more interesting to you, I could just

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Speaker 1: see Eric from Tawahassee that has an opinion about voter

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Speaker 1: part that would be more interesting to me. Eric. Um.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking, I mean, I'm obsessed with weather. It's

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Speaker 1: just it's in my blood. Um. I bet it's not

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Speaker 1: snowing and slushy down in Tallahassee. It's not, man, but

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Speaker 1: it's cold. It's incommonly cold here in North Florida. So um,

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Speaker 1: it's we literally just turned the heat on today for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Get you get cold when it hit

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Speaker 1: seventy Listen, listen. I will not stand for that, especially

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Speaker 1: you know from somebody up in d C. Listen in

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Speaker 1: North Florida, we have a hearty stock and uh it's

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Speaker 1: at least in the forties now it's cold. So but yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's said, but but things are heating up as it

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Speaker 1: relates to uh, you know that the things that are

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Speaker 1: happening from an election standpoint, obviously, Florida's bien. Hey, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I worked in radio for a little bit, so it's

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Speaker 1: been it's been obviously a very contentious time. But um,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think we've just completed the machine recounts

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Speaker 1: here and so actually just and you may have covered

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Speaker 1: this already, but Ron the Antist has declared victory again

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Speaker 1: and sort of they been declared the winner maintained in

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Speaker 1: a thirty three thousand vote margin. Rick Scott and Bill

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Speaker 1: Nelson will head into a manual recount because they're still

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Speaker 1: separated by the left and the point to five percent

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Speaker 1: threshold which triggers the manual recounts under Florida law. But

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Speaker 1: it's it's a great point you make, Raheem about the

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Speaker 1: things that Donald Trump has said. You know, he was

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Speaker 1: criticized because of his tweet about people or or I

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Speaker 1: guess somebody quoted him saying that people go and vote

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Speaker 1: and then and then they change clothes and then to

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Speaker 1: come back and vote again. And I don't have any

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Speaker 1: evidence of that atarily don't have any stories like that

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Speaker 1: in my book. But but what I do think is true.

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Speaker 1: And I heard this great analysis about Donald Trump and

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Speaker 1: they said, look, people on the left take him literally

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Speaker 1: but not seriously, and people on the right take him

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Speaker 1: seriously but not literally. And so yeah, while he literally

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Speaker 1: may not be correct, uh, he could not be more

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Speaker 1: serious in terms of the issue he raises. I mean,

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Speaker 1: the reality is, and this is one of the things

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Speaker 1: I talked about in the book, is that American elections,

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Speaker 1: and especially Florida's elections are about as prone to be

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Speaker 1: able to ward off attack as the US men's national

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Speaker 1: soccer team was today. Right, So that is to say,

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Speaker 1: not Ferry, remind me of what happened in the soccer today, Eric,

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Speaker 1: i'd I'd rather not talk about a raheem three three

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Speaker 1: nothing to England, I believe. So, so we know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: we know as poor US as your borders. We we

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Speaker 1: know in that illegal ballots were part of the Florida

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Speaker 1: vote house because Brenda Snipes the Broward County Supervisor elections

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Speaker 1: couldn't keep the illegal ballots separate from the legal ballot,

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Speaker 1: they got blended together, and then rather than exclude all

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Speaker 1: of them, which wouldn't been a disinfranched mind of a

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Speaker 1: large number of legal votes, they just decided to include

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Speaker 1: some illegal votes as well. But to Donald Trump's point,

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Speaker 1: there were a hundred and eight ballots in Miami Dade

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Speaker 1: County that were rejected because they were double vote. That

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Speaker 1: is to say, they were they were ballots the second

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Speaker 1: ballot cast by someone in that election cycle. Whether that

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Speaker 1: means they cast in aptinute ballot and then try to

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Speaker 1: show up and vote in person, or they voted in

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Speaker 1: one precinct and try to go up and show and

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Speaker 1: voted a different precinct, or whatever it was. You know,

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Speaker 1: we don't have evidence of the wardrobe change, but we

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Speaker 1: do know that double voting attempts happened in my inmitate

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Speaker 1: this cycle. In my book, I talked about the fact

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Speaker 1: that they were overs of double votes in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida alone in sixteen, which is more than four

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Speaker 1: times the margin of victory of a presidential election this century. So,

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Speaker 1: you know, I think that there's no doubt that illegal

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Speaker 1: voting does occur, and we've seen it firsthand, and so

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Speaker 1: you know, I think if people people always often ask me, well,

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Speaker 1: what does it what does it mean? What's the solution

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Speaker 1: moving forward? I think the good news is that we

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Speaker 1: have a president that actually will speak about it and

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Speaker 1: will raise the issue, because I think one one takeaway

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Speaker 1: from me from this entire process is when you've got

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Speaker 1: lawyers involved, and you've got eyes on the ballot and

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Speaker 1: eyes on the ground, you see how many different instances

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Speaker 1: of shenanigans are are happening. I mean, lawyers for Bill

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Speaker 1: Nelson and Andrew Gillham were on the record objecting to

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Speaker 1: the exclusion or removal of non citizen votes, which are illegal.

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Speaker 1: But yet here are the Democrats say no, those should count.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I think it's good that we see

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Speaker 1: the reality of what happens in elections laid bare for

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Speaker 1: all to see through this process. Whisping with Eric Eggers

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Speaker 1: from the Government Accountability Institute. He's gotten book that came

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Speaker 1: out this summer. It's called Fraud, How the Left plans

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Speaker 1: to steal the next election. I commended to you all, um, Eric,

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Speaker 1: in terms of what what Matt Gates said today about

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Speaker 1: about this being sort of a warm up Act for

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Speaker 1: the Democratic Party. And I was watching CNN earlier today

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Speaker 1: because I kind of hate myself, so I like to

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Speaker 1: I like the self flagellation and torture of having watching

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Speaker 1: the soccer match. Well there you go. Um No, I couldn't.

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Speaker 1: I couldn't revel in the victor in English victory today

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Speaker 1: I was. I was had my eyes fixated on that

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Speaker 1: and and and the Brexit stuff happening in the UK

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Speaker 1: as well. Um. But they were laughing at Matt Gates

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Speaker 1: on CNN. They were saying, you know, conspiracy theory, this

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Speaker 1: doesn't happen. There's no problem certainly poo pooing the idea

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Speaker 1: that any form of lawsuit against you know, from one

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Speaker 1: side or the other weren't sort of opportunistic and taking

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Speaker 1: their chances and influencing the the end result. But let's

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Speaker 1: face it, that is where we are now. So so so,

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Speaker 1: how much do you think that Matt Gates was right

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Speaker 1: the Democrats are seeing what they can get away with

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Speaker 1: or if they always just been this way? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: don't know that this is unique. Maybe there If there's

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Speaker 1: anything that's unique here, it's the motivation level and this

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Speaker 1: belief in the self righteous belief by people on the

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Speaker 1: left of the moral authority by which they're operating. I mean,

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Speaker 1: heading into this election season, you know, nothing less than

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Speaker 1: the impeachment of the president and the for the Kavanaugh

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Speaker 1: hearings were concluded this idea that hey, we're gonna block

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Speaker 1: this Supreme Court justice from being confirmed. Uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: We're gonna expand healthcare for all, We're gonna abolish ice,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna abolish enforcement of immigration laws. So these are

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Speaker 1: all things that are that are not just political positions

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Speaker 1: but moral impediment. Uh. You know, So I think, you know,

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Speaker 1: I think it's important to think through the motivation level.

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Speaker 1: So if the people believe this strongly and what they're

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Speaker 1: trying to make happen, then I think exploiting the very

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Speaker 1: real vulnerabilities in American election systems doesn't seem like a stretch.

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Speaker 1: You know. The larger point I try to make about

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Speaker 1: the incompetence that we've seen in Barrower County, in Palmish Counting,

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Speaker 1: and that's the word I use. You know, Representative Gates

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Speaker 1: I think has speculated as to the legitimacy of the

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Speaker 1: eight three thousand ballants and Barrower County that have materialized.

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Speaker 1: I've spoken to election experts to say and listen, that's

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Speaker 1: just how they're doing it. It's not fraud, it's just incompetence.

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Speaker 1: But to me that the point is this, if they're

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Speaker 1: this bad at keeping track of and holding and then

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Speaker 1: performing a sophisticated mathematical technique known as counting, how bad

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Speaker 1: do you think they are at preventing the illegal votes

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Speaker 1: from being cast? Especially when you consider Brenda Snipe's track

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Speaker 1: record of admitting that she's allowed illegal immigrants and felons

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Speaker 1: to vote. And by the way, this is the key

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Speaker 1: point where team that she's admitted in previous court cases

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Speaker 1: that it's it. It's almost impossible to prevent because these

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Speaker 1: voter registration drives, especially ahead of these big elections, You've

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Speaker 1: got so many people being registered to vote, and the

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Speaker 1: systems just aren't in place to prevent or to to

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Speaker 1: perform the level of accuracy and verification to make sure

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Speaker 1: that people that are registering to vote are the people

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Speaker 1: that are actually voting. So the sneering dismissiveness by the

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Speaker 1: elite media of people like Matt Gates, I think it's

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Speaker 1: important to know this. They think they're right because they've

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Speaker 1: been told by groups like the Brennan Center and these

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Speaker 1: paid and bought for legal entities the affiliated with George Soros,

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Speaker 1: who define voter fraud in the narrowest possible terms. They

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Speaker 1: define it only in the underinclusive way of an active

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Speaker 1: impersonation by an illegal voter on behalf of a legal voter.

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Speaker 1: When I think the reality is that most people wuld

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Speaker 1: say anything that devalues the true way to an honest vote.

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Speaker 1: That's voter fraud. And a lot of stuff like that happens,

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Speaker 1: and the worst part of it is is legal. So

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Speaker 1: so I do think that the representive gates is correct

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Speaker 1: to foreshadow what's happening. And that's one of the reasons

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Speaker 1: why I wrote the book, and I think, unfortunately it's

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Speaker 1: one of the reasons why the books doing as well.

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Speaker 1: It is because what happened the last week and a half,

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Speaker 1: I said, oh, this is actually a real thing and

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Speaker 1: this can happen. Um. Eric Igor is the author of Fraud.

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Speaker 1: How the left plans till the next lection? Just final

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Speaker 1: question for you before we let you go. How how

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Speaker 1: come the Voter Fraud Commission, I mean, just what happened

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Speaker 1: to that that seemed like such a good idea and

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Speaker 1: it just lost its legs. And I know Chris Kobat

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Speaker 1: was running for for you know, his own seats. But

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Speaker 1: but it seems like the administration got bullied out of

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Speaker 1: of of doing that. But that's a that's a great

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Speaker 1: word to use, bullied, because they absolutely did. I mean,

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Speaker 1: there are several issues, one of which was the laws

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Speaker 1: that they're written, I think prevented true that it prevented

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Speaker 1: the commission from doing the job set up the deal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you look no further than the fact that

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Speaker 1: Chris Kobak, the Secretary of State of Kansas, was legally

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Speaker 1: prohibited from providing Chris Kobak, the vice chair on the

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Speaker 1: Presidential Commission on Election and Ministry Election Integrity, from the

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Speaker 1: data that they were requesting. And so when you know,

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Speaker 1: Chris Kolback decided, well, maybe I'll give myself this data.

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Speaker 1: They were sued nineteen times by groups fassilitated with George Soros, Right,

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Speaker 1: so they were said they were bullied by lawsuit out

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Speaker 1: of existence. But the good news is is that I

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Speaker 1: think the motivation to expose and inspect this issue is

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Speaker 1: still there. It's just gone to an administrative level, right,

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Speaker 1: rather than maybe ministerial if if that's those terms are correct,

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Speaker 1: that's what you've got now, Department Home in Security. They're

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Speaker 1: taking it seriously. So you've seen people charged in North Carolina.

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Speaker 1: You've seen people charged in Texas. So I think I

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01:08:02,680 --> 01:08:05,320
Speaker 1: think states that decide, listen, we're going to be serious

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Speaker 1: about the accuracy and integrity of our elections. They're finding

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Speaker 1: people to prosecute, and people are being prosecuted and people

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Speaker 1: are going to jail. So we have to leave it there. Eric,

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Speaker 1: I'm afraid we're up against the break here. We have

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Speaker 1: to leave it there. But I'm so glad you could

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Speaker 1: join us today. We've got a lot of people being

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Speaker 1: very complimentary about the guests on this show today, and

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01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:27,040
Speaker 1: I'm so glad you're one of them because it's a

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Speaker 1: lot of fantastic information. You can find out more in

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Speaker 1: Fraud how the Left plan is still the next election. Eric,

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Speaker 1: thank you again. Than This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Kassam. We'll be right back after this break.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheemam filling

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Speaker 1: in for Mr Sexton. We are in the Freedom Part

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Speaker 1: in Washington, d C. Coming back to you guys on

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Speaker 1: the phone lines now eight four four n eight to

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Speaker 1: five eight four D. Buck got Jean in Wisconsin on

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Speaker 1: the line. Gene, good evening, Hi, raheem, thanks for taking

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Speaker 1: my car. Hey can you hear me? Okay? Absolutely, go

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Speaker 1: right ahead. Okay. So here's the thing. I'm nobody, but

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Speaker 1: even I can see that this is a swamp issue

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Speaker 1: and we have to control the swamp. And so this

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Speaker 1: should have been added into the children's book that that

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Speaker 1: fellow was talking about earlier. But why why are we

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Speaker 1: paying this Brenda Snipes hundred over a hundred hundred and

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Speaker 1: fifty hundred seventy five thousand a year to to be

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Speaker 1: a mess up? I don't know why we're paying her that.

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Speaker 1: Why don't we hire an independent uh in, a bonded

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Speaker 1: accounting firm, since that's what they do is count and

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Speaker 1: have them administer the the the the voting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: why do we keep paying the swamp to swamp us?

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Speaker 1: You can do me a favor, would you please mention

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Speaker 1: this to Buck and and really talk about it, because

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Speaker 1: you guys are you know, at a at a higher level,

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Speaker 1: and it's it's a very good it's a very good question,

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Speaker 1: and it is. It is a very good question I have.

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Speaker 1: I have a somewhat of an opinion on this and

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Speaker 1: somewhat of an answer on it. There are there are

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Speaker 1: a lot of now verification processes um you know, UH scanners,

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Speaker 1: lots of things that are being deployed and that you know,

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Speaker 1: some of them be trialed and some work and some don't. UM.

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Speaker 1: Some of them are using external firms to make sure

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Speaker 1: this happens. Some again, as you say, are doing it

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Speaker 1: with these swamp like creatures in charge of the final audits.

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Speaker 1: But I would say this as well, be be very

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Speaker 1: careful about what you wish for in this scenario, because

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Speaker 1: do remember that a lot of these same sort of

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Speaker 1: financial firms and auditing firms and and and those types

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Speaker 1: were the same type of people who were responsible for

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Speaker 1: the two thousand and eight financial crisis. You know, the

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Speaker 1: the the sort of swamp of the finance world is

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Speaker 1: very very similar to the swamp of the political world.

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Speaker 1: The KPMG recently firing people over ethics breaches. PwC now

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Speaker 1: investigating UH ethics breaches and and allegations of fraud under

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Speaker 1: its purview. So you know, be be very careful what

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Speaker 1: you wish for in that regard, because at least with

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Speaker 1: the people like Brenda Snipes, she's known, we can hold

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Speaker 1: her two accounts somewhat. We can at least make her

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Speaker 1: very very famous for these sorts of failings. But when

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Speaker 1: you put the put the elections in the hands of

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Speaker 1: sort of you know, faceless auditors behind you know whether

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Speaker 1: they're independent or whether their government mandated firms in this regard,

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Speaker 1: be very very careful about that, Gene. But I do

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Speaker 1: appreciate the call, and I will mention, as you say

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Speaker 1: to Buck, that this needs this needs much more in

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Speaker 1: terms of in terms of scrutiny. This is Raheem Kasan

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Speaker 1: on the Buck Sexton Show, and of the second hour.

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Speaker 1: Where does the time go? The phone number eight four

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Speaker 1: four eight two five eight four four nine hundred. Buck

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Speaker 1: will be right back after this break. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casan covering for Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton today. Lots of lots of topics to hit. We've

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Speaker 1: hit so many already. At the time always goes very

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Speaker 1: very quickly. You think about it all day. You think

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna be sitting in there for three hours. It's

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Speaker 1: going to go really slowly and have loads of time,

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Speaker 1: and then before you know it, you're getting unceremoniously turfed

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Speaker 1: out of the building and your time's up. You've had

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Speaker 1: your shot, and there's just you know, the news cycle,

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Speaker 1: especially when when you sort of take an into national

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Speaker 1: view of it, is just completely and totally all engulfing.

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Speaker 1: Right now, in the last couple of hours, John Kasik

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Speaker 1: in New Hampshire saying all options are on the table

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Speaker 1: when it comes to challenging President Donald J. Trump for

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Speaker 1: the White House. Yes, it made me laugh also, but

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Speaker 1: it does make you realize that no matter what this

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Speaker 1: president does, no matter how good the economy is, where

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Speaker 1: he when he's being by partisan doing criminal justice reform,

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Speaker 1: when he's sending troops down to the border to defend

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Speaker 1: the Nation States sovereignty, when he's giving these tax cuts

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Speaker 1: that are very, very popular with the gops donor class.

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Speaker 1: You know, nothing is enough for the r n c's establishment.

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Speaker 1: Here you have a bought and paid for member of it.

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Speaker 1: John Ksik saying that he doesn't know what he's going

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Speaker 1: to do yet in twenty he may well run against

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Speaker 1: President Trump. In basilic I say, now, in the first

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Speaker 1: hour of the show, we did a little bit of

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Speaker 1: chat about the Brexit maschinnations that are taking place in

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Speaker 1: the United Kingdom at the moment, I promised you a

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Speaker 1: guest from the UK, the chairman of the oldest conservative

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Speaker 1: think tank in the country, got tied up a little

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Speaker 1: bit during a speech at Oxford University. But I'm delighted

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Speaker 1: to say is joining us now. Ben Harris Quinney joins

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Speaker 1: on the line to dissect what exactly took place in

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Speaker 1: Britain today. Seems like there was a spate of cabinet

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Speaker 1: resignations um and uh and and really leaving the Prime

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Speaker 1: Minister a bit high and drying. And and it matters.

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Speaker 1: And we get that it matters to you guys over

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Speaker 1: here because it matters as to whether or not we

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Speaker 1: do a free trade deal with the United States. I mean, remember,

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Speaker 1: we may be a small land mass, but we are

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Speaker 1: not a small economy. Um. You know, a three trillion

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Speaker 1: GDP economy, massive, massive importer from the United States already

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Speaker 1: and indeed a massive exporter to the United States, already,

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Speaker 1: A G seven country, one of the biggest, and and

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Speaker 1: one of the ones that is growing rather than shrinking

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Speaker 1: like the Eurozone. Nations are Ben Harris Queeneen, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the buck Sexton Show. Thank you very much for me.

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Speaker 1: So Ben walk us through a little bit of what

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Speaker 1: happened today. Was this was this out of the blue?

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Speaker 1: Did people see this coming? What are the implications for

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Speaker 1: Brexit as a process of the Prime Minister in and

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Speaker 1: of herself, um, and indeed for the the fact that

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Speaker 1: we were supposed to be Britain was supposed to be

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Speaker 1: at the front of the queue according to President Trump,

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Speaker 1: for one of these trade deals that he is also

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Speaker 1: so keen to close. Well, it's it's the Guardian k

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Speaker 1: not for Britain leaving the European Union. It's intensely complex.

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Speaker 1: But the best way I could describe it to an

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Speaker 1: American audience is the situation in the UK is as

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Speaker 1: if John Kasik was president, surrounded by Trump supporters. We

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Speaker 1: have this bizarre situation with Theresa remained supporter and by

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Speaker 1: hook or by crook, ended up as Prime Minister without

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Speaker 1: a vote taking place, and she's been essentially delivering a

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Speaker 1: version of practice that would keep us in the European Union,

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Speaker 1: and the game is finally up. We called for her

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Speaker 1: to resign yesterday after canvassing many members of Parliament on

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Speaker 1: the issue. And finally British people, as you your listeners

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Speaker 1: will have learned with me being in our late or

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Speaker 1: always slow to act, but they have finally acted. Um,

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Speaker 1: and the true believing Conservatives of the Braxfit support of

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Speaker 1: the people in the Conservative Party that would be likely

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Speaker 1: to support Donald Trump and a trade deal with the

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Speaker 1: United States, have finally taken action, and they've submitted the

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Speaker 1: letters of no confidence in Theresa May, and she will

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Speaker 1: now face a leadership election which will be something equivalent

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Speaker 1: to what Americans would would experience with the primary election,

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Speaker 1: except not necessarily before a general election. And all that

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Speaker 1: has got to take place before March twenty nine, where

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Speaker 1: we are scheduled to leave the European Union, and in

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Speaker 1: theory we need all our bucks in a row by then.

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Speaker 1: So unfortunately, from Donald Trump's point of view, he's willing

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Speaker 1: to put us at the front of the queue, but

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Speaker 1: we haven't even arrived at the queue yet. Well, it

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Speaker 1: sounds like a bit of a mess. Um. The Conservative

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Speaker 1: Party is the party of government in the United Kingdom.

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Speaker 1: People should know that it is very very scarcely ever

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Speaker 1: conservative in its in its policies, or or in its positions.

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Speaker 1: What does it bode for for them? And does this

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Speaker 1: mean that you might have a hardline socialist the equivalent

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Speaker 1: of you know, the love child of Bernie Sanders and

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Speaker 1: Alexander Arcassio Cortez um chap called Jeremy Corbyn who leads

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Speaker 1: to the Labor Party. Does it give him an inn

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Speaker 1: to the keys to Downing Street? It potentially does. Um.

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Speaker 1: There is certainly scenario where by this all leads to

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Speaker 1: a general election and if we're putting up candidates of

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Speaker 1: the Cannaba Theresa May, then she could certainly lose two

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Speaker 1: a figure on love Corbin. Um, it's it's a big

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Speaker 1: risk and we didn't call for her resignation likely although

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Speaker 1: as you say, we are a conservative organization and the

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Speaker 1: Conservative Party really being conservative since stature, so we will

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Speaker 1: never have the biggest supporter, but we do we do

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Speaker 1: realize that there is a great risk inherent in this.

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Speaker 1: But because of how bad her dealer was, and particularly

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Speaker 1: because and this will seem very bizarre to Americans, it

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Speaker 1: locked us into a deal that, according to the wording

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Speaker 1: of it, would not allow Britain to ever ever change

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Speaker 1: that deal or pull out of it without the consent

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Speaker 1: of the European Union, so we would we would be

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Speaker 1: locked to that deal. And I think because of that

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Speaker 1: it has been worth taking the risk to force a

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Speaker 1: leadership election and get someone in that will give us

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Speaker 1: the Brexit deal that the British public voted for. Now,

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Speaker 1: let's let's just finally relate this for Americans, because of course,

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Speaker 1: there are a lot of people in this country in

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Speaker 1: the United States where I am right now, who who

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Speaker 1: understand and who take the view that the Brexit was

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Speaker 1: actually part and parcel of President trump selection, that that

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Speaker 1: without the June the twenty three vote in two thousand

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Speaker 1: and sixteen in the United Kingdom, that a lot of

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Speaker 1: Americans saw and and celebrated that they may have not

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Speaker 1: had the gumption to get to that ballot box and

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Speaker 1: and do what they did that without sort of people

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Speaker 1: like Nigel Farage going down to Jackson, Mississippi, to Canvas

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Speaker 1: on behalf of President Trump and doing a lot of

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Speaker 1: the television interviews on the run up to that election

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Speaker 1: and communicating with the ordinary Americans as to why they

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Speaker 1: were draining the swamp in the UK as well. Um,

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty sixteen may have gone very very differently.

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Speaker 1: And while Donald is draining the swamp in the United States,

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Speaker 1: and perhaps not as quickly as a lot of people

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Speaker 1: would like, and perhaps that wall isn't being built as

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Speaker 1: quickly as a lot of people would like. But while

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Speaker 1: at least the victory meant executive authority in the United States,

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Speaker 1: it did know such thing in Britain, right, But that's

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Speaker 1: absolutely right. I mean both both movements were the movements

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Speaker 1: of the people against the establishment, that this throwing off

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Speaker 1: of centrist politics and liberalism that has been in spite

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Speaker 1: of the people of both America and the United Kingdom

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Speaker 1: and against their views and values for so long. So

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Speaker 1: they're similar in that sense. But as you say, and

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Speaker 1: as Nigel Ferage says upon Donald Trump's selection, the difference

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Speaker 1: is that an American revolution can be completed in one

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Speaker 1: electoral cycle. In Britain it's next twenty or thirty years,

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Speaker 1: and they still don't get it, even after everything that's happened,

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Speaker 1: even after the clear message that the British people have

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Speaker 1: said that they don't want business as usual, they want

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Speaker 1: to get rid of this old, tired and decrepid class

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Speaker 1: of politicians. Theresa May is still banging that old drum

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Speaker 1: against you know, all of the advice of now the

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Speaker 1: entirety of Parliament, including opposition parties. So unfortunately our political

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Speaker 1: system is is scrossing. And I'm a great believer in

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Speaker 1: the American political system for its faults, because it puts

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Speaker 1: the American people in charge. What we're now trying to

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Speaker 1: run is a reguard action despite the fact we've already won.

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Speaker 1: So we're trying to via other means than direct democracy

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Speaker 1: and put pressure to see the decision of the British

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Speaker 1: people implemented. And that's been a very hard road over

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Speaker 1: the last two years, and I know things like Nigel

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Speaker 1: Farage are absolutely beside themselves in the efforts that they've

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Speaker 1: existed for for for their entire careers to get to

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Speaker 1: this point, only to have defeat potentially um snatched from

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Speaker 1: the from the doors of victory, because we want the

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Speaker 1: argue that all the people are still in power. Ben

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Speaker 1: Harris Queeney, the chairman of the Bow Group, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for joining us here. I know it's late

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Speaker 1: there and you have an early morning flight. UM so

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Speaker 1: really grateful. You can find out more about the Bow

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Speaker 1: Group at bow Group dot org. I believe is that right?

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Speaker 1: That is right? Absolutely so Bow Group dot Org. Ladies

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Speaker 1: and gentlemen, thank you again to Ben. The phone lines

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Speaker 1: are open eight four four to eight to five, eight

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Speaker 1: four four, nine hundred buck. I want to hear from

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Speaker 1: many of you in this hour as possible, so get

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Speaker 1: on those lines. We're obviously talking about nationalism, national sovereignty.

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Speaker 1: The difference between globalism and nationalism, I think escapes a

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Speaker 1: lot of people. I have been touting my my Daily

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Speaker 1: Caller article from yesterday, UM, over and over again across

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Speaker 1: this across this three hours show. UM. I you can

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Speaker 1: find out my Twitter feed. UM that that what's going

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Speaker 1: on in the United Kingdom. What you just heard is

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Speaker 1: I mean, we tried to obviously to relate it to

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Speaker 1: an American audience. I'm not here to try and bore

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Speaker 1: you with the politics of foreign countries. But the two movements,

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Speaker 1: the Trump movement of the Brexit movement was so inextricably

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Speaker 1: linked and and and we share the same values, and

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Speaker 1: we share the same wishes for our own nations. UM

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Speaker 1: that I think it's it bears repeating, and it bears consideration,

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Speaker 1: especially given what happened in the midterm elections. Our movement

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Speaker 1: got transfigured from a rebellion from taking back control. You know,

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Speaker 1: you had make America great again, and we had we

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Speaker 1: want our country back. He know, there's there's a sort

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Speaker 1: of nationalistic, sovereignistic nostalgia that both of these things we're

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Speaker 1: based off and ours got hijacked by the political establishment

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Speaker 1: and turned into the precise thing that it was the

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Speaker 1: antithesis of. It got turned into a bureaucratic process. It

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Speaker 1: got turned into the administrative states plaything. And I fear

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Speaker 1: that right now, especially after these mid terms, especially with

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Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi potentially as the House majority leader, that this

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Speaker 1: administration's aims and goals are themselves going to be turned

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Speaker 1: into a nightmarish, bureaucratic, administrative state like process. And that's

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Speaker 1: the thing to consider when comparing and contrasting these two things.

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Speaker 1: Our fates are so intrinsically linked that one cannot be

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Speaker 1: viewed without the other. This is the Buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 1: My name is Raheim Kasam. I'm covering for Buck today

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Speaker 1: here in Washington, d C. And we're going to be

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Speaker 1: right back after this short break. Welcome back to the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show. I'm Rahem Casam fitting in for Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton today. The phone lines are open eight four four

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Speaker 1: n eight to five. That's eight four four nine hundred buck.

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Speaker 1: When I get some more callers, Steve is in Massachusetts

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Speaker 1: on the line, now, Steve, good evening, Good evening, how

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Speaker 1: are you. Um. One of the weird things about illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration that's actually a symptom of a far greater problem.

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Speaker 1: What illegal immigration actually does. It's an anarchy way of

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Speaker 1: destroying the national sovereignty of nations and getting them to

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Speaker 1: into like this guilt trip because they can't think of

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Speaker 1: a largical argument against it. It's like guilt tripping people

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Speaker 1: into destroying letting their own national sovereignty being destroyed. Um.

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Speaker 1: In America there's a classic example of it, because you

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Speaker 1: have cities and towns fighting against counties, counties fighting against states,

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Speaker 1: states fighting the federal government. It's like anarchy, and uh,

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Speaker 1: it creates a lot of conflict. But that's the real issue.

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Speaker 1: UM I I kind of get frustrated when people talk

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Speaker 1: about illegal immigration because that's kind of like a diversion.

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Speaker 1: The destruction of national sovereignty is really what worries me. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I completely agree with you, it is. It is just

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Speaker 1: a symptom. Illegal immigration is just a symptom of the

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Speaker 1: erosion of national sovereignty of borders of the nation state.

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Speaker 1: That's why I wrote the article I did yesterday. Steve,

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Speaker 1: tell me, what is in your opinion the point why

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Speaker 1: would anybody want to attack the nation state like that? Well, basically,

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Speaker 1: I well it there there's a couple of philosophies. One

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Speaker 1: is called social libertarianism. In other words, you can travel

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Speaker 1: from city to city, state to state, and then they

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Speaker 1: expanded into country to country. It's like an anarchy form

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Speaker 1: of uh. Well, and it's also tightened with that open

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Speaker 1: border thing. And I think it also dovetails into like, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, the whole revolutionary aspect of destabilizing nation to

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Speaker 1: set it up for a socialist revolution. It's almost like,

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Speaker 1: you know, the indoctrination phase is completely so let's go

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Speaker 1: straight into destabilizing the nation and what is it? What

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Speaker 1: is the other part of it? Um? That's basically I'm

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Speaker 1: just curious. I'm you you sound pretty well read. Have

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Speaker 1: you ever heard of a guy named Uri Besmanoff. He

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Speaker 1: was a KGB defector in the eighties, and he basically

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Speaker 1: explained to the Sophia strategy for destroying as a four

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Speaker 1: step process for destabilizing and destroying a nation start indoctrination.

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Speaker 1: I remember, I remember reading about that several years ago,

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Speaker 1: you know, the it's interesting with with the cultural Marxism,

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Speaker 1: with all of that that had happened, and and and frankly,

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Speaker 1: as much as we now know about what was going

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Speaker 1: on in both the United States and in Western Europe

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Speaker 1: in terms of the the the the you know, whether

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Speaker 1: it's the LGBT stuff or whether it was the illegal

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Speaker 1: immigration stuff, as much as we now know, we still

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Speaker 1: have a situation where the ordinary person out there is

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Speaker 1: so easily dragged along by the propaganda they get at school,

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Speaker 1: the propaganda you see at university, or the propaganda you

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Speaker 1: get in the news media. Steve, how do we fix that? Um?

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Speaker 1: A little, definitely with education. People have to get over

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Speaker 1: their guilt because what happens what the left does is

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01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 1: they'll create an argument, a complex argument. And because a

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01:28:19,800 --> 01:28:21,719
Speaker 1: lot of times when if I don't have a rational

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01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:25,680
Speaker 1: argument for against something, you know, the tendency is to

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01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:29,000
Speaker 1: go along with it. But my solution from a United

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Speaker 1: States standpoint is to read upon the federalist papers, to

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01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,639
Speaker 1: read upon national sovereignty, read upon the Constitution, and basically,

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01:28:36,479 --> 01:28:40,680
Speaker 1: we as a nation, we need to refamiliarize ourselves why

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Speaker 1: we went from the Articles of Confederation to a strong

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Speaker 1: federal government. Absolutely, I completely agree with you. You know, Steve,

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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a fellow at a group called the

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Speaker 1: Claremont Institute, and the Claremont Institute put out I mean,

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Speaker 1: they do all the sorts of publications. They have a

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Speaker 1: journal every quarter. And I'll tell you for me, especially

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Speaker 1: as somebody from who wasn't born in the United States

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Speaker 1: and who didn't even get a cursory education, maybe that

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Speaker 1: helps nowadays. I don't know in in US history, Um,

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Speaker 1: the Claremont Review of Books is, isn't It's just the

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01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,280
Speaker 1: best source you could possibly imagine for the for the

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Speaker 1: as you say, the arguments that came out of the

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Speaker 1: Federalist papers and so on and so forth. So I

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Speaker 1: commend that to you, and Steve, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for the excellent call. Here this this evening on the

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Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show, we came to work. I know I'm

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01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:35,160
Speaker 1: not getting asylum because they don't give you asylum for hunger,

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01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:39,960
Speaker 1: said Carlos Jose Romero, who's on the migrant caravan. That

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01:29:40,120 --> 01:29:43,280
Speaker 1: is a quote from the Guardian that came out today,

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01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:48,680
Speaker 1: admitting that This is economic migration, not asylum seekers. This

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01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:51,639
Speaker 1: is the Buck Sexton Show. I'm Raheem Casa right back

1506
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,920
Speaker 1: after this break. Welcome back to the Bucks Sexton Show.

1507
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,720
Speaker 1: I'm Raheem Casam here filling in for Buck Sexton in

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01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: aided the Freedom Hut this evening, and I intend to

1509
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:05,439
Speaker 1: burn it to the ground when I leave. Now. I

1510
01:30:05,439 --> 01:30:07,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't say that. Somebody will take me seriously. Um, the

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01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:10,720
Speaker 1: phone lines are open eight four four eight two five

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Speaker 1: eight four for nine hundred buck. I know we've jumped

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01:30:15,160 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: around a bit this evening, but everything is so intertwined

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01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:23,360
Speaker 1: at the moment, whether it's Jim Acosta on migrant caravans

1515
01:30:24,280 --> 01:30:28,280
Speaker 1: or Jim Acosta and CNN suing the White House for

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01:30:28,400 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 1: banning Jim Acosta. Basically, Jim Acosta is the news right now,

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01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:34,960
Speaker 1: and that's what Jim Acosta wanted. Jim Acosta. When Jim

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01:30:35,000 --> 01:30:37,920
Speaker 1: Acosta stands up and talks about Jim Acosta, he wants

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01:30:38,000 --> 01:30:40,080
Speaker 1: us to talk about Jim Acosta. So we're talking about

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01:30:40,160 --> 01:30:44,240
Speaker 1: Jim Acosta. That's a lot of Jim Acosta. It's too

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01:30:44,320 --> 01:30:47,599
Speaker 1: much any Jim Acosta Acosta. But there is an interesting

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01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 1: development in this case. Um, the CEO of the One

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01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:56,320
Speaker 1: American News Network tweeted out earlier today that they were

1524
01:30:56,360 --> 01:30:59,160
Speaker 1: going to file in the CNN versus the White House

1525
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:06,040
Speaker 1: court trial whatever. It is, an amicus brief that is

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:09,880
Speaker 1: a stakeholder submission effectively in favor of the White House.

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Speaker 1: And the reason that's interesting is because everyone else, I think,

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01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:19,400
Speaker 1: including Fox News, has filed an amicus brief in favor

1529
01:31:19,479 --> 01:31:24,920
Speaker 1: of CNN. So we have the president of the One

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Speaker 1: American News Network joining us on the line now, Charles Herring,

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01:31:28,600 --> 01:31:30,240
Speaker 1: thank you so much for your time this evening, sir,

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01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:37,040
Speaker 1: my pleasure. Hey, Charles, tell us you stand out amongst

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01:31:37,080 --> 01:31:42,160
Speaker 1: the crowd of those supporting CNN in their endeavor to

1534
01:31:42,640 --> 01:31:46,880
Speaker 1: litigate one person's access to the White House, because, let's

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01:31:46,960 --> 01:31:50,200
Speaker 1: face it, CNN has other people with access. So this

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01:31:50,400 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 1: is just again about Jim Acosta himself. This is not

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01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:56,040
Speaker 1: about the free press as far as I'm concerned. But

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01:31:56,200 --> 01:31:59,599
Speaker 1: tell us One American News, which I think is fantastic,

1539
01:31:59,800 --> 01:32:01,240
Speaker 1: and and I and I go on there with your

1540
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:04,800
Speaker 1: with your great hosts and interviews a lot um. How

1541
01:32:04,840 --> 01:32:08,240
Speaker 1: did you come to this decision and what does it mean? Well,

1542
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,080
Speaker 1: we came to this decision a long time ago. I've

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01:32:11,120 --> 01:32:13,320
Speaker 1: been in the briefing room a number of times in

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01:32:13,400 --> 01:32:17,639
Speaker 1: the back of the briefing room with our reporters sitting

1545
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,880
Speaker 1: in the briefing room asking questions, and I've seen just

1546
01:32:21,080 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: too many times where Mr Acosta uh once to grandstand,

1547
01:32:26,680 --> 01:32:30,519
Speaker 1: interrupt and continue speaking when other reporters are called upon,

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01:32:30,680 --> 01:32:35,200
Speaker 1: including our own, and he's hindering other reporters from being

1549
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,479
Speaker 1: able to ask meeting for questions. And one thing that

1550
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 1: we all like about the briefing room and what we

1551
01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,200
Speaker 1: like about a free press is there's diversity and questions

1552
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,960
Speaker 1: and that doesn't happen when Jim Acosta wants to grandstand.

1553
01:32:47,120 --> 01:32:49,920
Speaker 1: And so I've had a problem with Jim Acosta, one

1554
01:32:50,040 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 1: specific individual, not CNN, with Jim Acosta himself for his

1555
01:32:55,560 --> 01:32:59,280
Speaker 1: lack of professionalism in the briefing room. You know. UM.

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01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:03,559
Speaker 1: One that I find very interesting is if somebody would

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01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:07,120
Speaker 1: have said to you or anyone uh, any individual of

1558
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 1: your audience, somebody was in the briefing room interrupting, preventing

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01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:17,439
Speaker 1: other reporters from asking questions, and you asked, who is

1560
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:21,320
Speaker 1: that person, just about everybody would say Jim Acosta. His

1561
01:33:21,479 --> 01:33:24,559
Speaker 1: behavior has been going on for too long, and CNN

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01:33:24,800 --> 01:33:27,360
Speaker 1: has done nothing about it, and obviously there's a reason

1563
01:33:27,479 --> 01:33:29,840
Speaker 1: for that, and we can all speculate that they like

1564
01:33:30,280 --> 01:33:34,439
Speaker 1: his behavior, and the White House Correspondence Association has done

1565
01:33:34,720 --> 01:33:38,559
Speaker 1: nothing about it, and finally somebody has done something about

1566
01:33:38,600 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 1: it administration, and it's a big controversy. Frankly, I don't

1567
01:33:42,280 --> 01:33:44,680
Speaker 1: understand why it's a controversy. For me, it's a very

1568
01:33:44,760 --> 01:33:49,840
Speaker 1: simple issue. He's disruptive, he's unprofessional, He's tying up the

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01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:54,840
Speaker 1: precious time for other reporters to ask meaningful questions of

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01:33:54,960 --> 01:33:57,560
Speaker 1: the President of the United States, and something needed to

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01:33:57,600 --> 01:34:03,040
Speaker 1: be done. So we're supportive of the administration. The the

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01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:08,360
Speaker 1: White House Correspondence Association that a lot of people don't

1573
01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 1: realize how that's constituted. Um It's it's got a board, uh,

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01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:19,160
Speaker 1: and it's people who are taken from across the media pool. Effectively,

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01:34:19,640 --> 01:34:25,320
Speaker 1: you have Sirius XM's correspondent as the president, ABC's White

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01:34:25,360 --> 01:34:30,200
Speaker 1: House correspondent as a vice president, NBC's uh senior White

1577
01:34:30,240 --> 01:34:34,560
Speaker 1: House producer as the secretary. It's the photographer of The

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01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 1: New York Times as one of the board members, etcetera, etcetera.

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Speaker 1: Um is is there real diversity in the White House

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01:34:41,200 --> 01:34:44,080
Speaker 1: Correspondence Association or do they sort of fit in with

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01:34:44,560 --> 01:34:47,599
Speaker 1: with the Jim Acosta style of doing things. That's why

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01:34:47,680 --> 01:34:51,160
Speaker 1: they are broadly supportive of what CNN is doing here. Well,

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01:34:51,200 --> 01:34:53,240
Speaker 1: a couple of things that I do know. I've been

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01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,760
Speaker 1: speaking with other senior management of other media companies that

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01:34:56,920 --> 01:35:00,960
Speaker 1: have representatives in the briefing room, and they have chairs

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01:35:01,880 --> 01:35:03,960
Speaker 1: and I know where they stand, and many of them

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01:35:04,160 --> 01:35:08,960
Speaker 1: are supportive of the administration's actions. They're disappointed with how

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01:35:09,120 --> 01:35:13,920
Speaker 1: one reporter has been conducting himself during the briefings. And

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01:35:14,000 --> 01:35:17,800
Speaker 1: so there is a silent group of individuals of of

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01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:23,519
Speaker 1: media companies UH that are disappointed and Jim Acosta's behavior. UH.

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01:35:23,880 --> 01:35:27,320
Speaker 1: Clearly there's an issue with the White House Correspondence Association,

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01:35:27,400 --> 01:35:30,040
Speaker 1: and we saw that at the dinner this year. UM

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01:35:30,920 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: a number of people walked out. Clearly, UH, the board

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01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:37,880
Speaker 1: is not very diverse, and and look, we're trying to

1595
01:35:37,960 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: work within that organization to increase UH the voices from

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01:35:43,160 --> 01:35:46,200
Speaker 1: all sides. But occasionally you do need to stand up.

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01:35:46,800 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 1: And I believe in self regulation, and I think it's

1598
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,880
Speaker 1: important for media UH senior officials to stand up and

1599
01:35:54,400 --> 01:35:57,479
Speaker 1: call other people out when they think there's an issue

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01:35:57,760 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: and try to do it in an appropriate manner. And

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01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:03,160
Speaker 1: that's what we're doing here. Look, we don't have any

1602
01:36:03,240 --> 01:36:05,960
Speaker 1: issue with CNN. We don't have any issue with the

1603
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:09,639
Speaker 1: questions of any reporter. We just want them to conduct

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01:36:09,720 --> 01:36:14,759
Speaker 1: themselves in a professional manner and most importantly, don't hinder

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01:36:14,920 --> 01:36:18,400
Speaker 1: other journalists in the room. Frankly, I think that Jim

1606
01:36:18,520 --> 01:36:22,720
Speaker 1: thinks his opinion and his comments are more important than

1607
01:36:22,760 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: the other people in the room, and that's problematic for

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01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:29,320
Speaker 1: freedom of press and as and as we found out today,

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01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,920
Speaker 1: we're speaking with Charles Hearing, the president of the One

1610
01:36:31,960 --> 01:36:35,439
Speaker 1: American News Network. As we found out today, Charles often

1611
01:36:35,720 --> 01:36:41,280
Speaker 1: very very misleading. Um CNN has broadcast this clip so

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01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:45,400
Speaker 1: many times now, and it features Jim Acosta saying that

1613
01:36:45,520 --> 01:36:48,679
Speaker 1: there are not migrants at the US border, that they're

1614
01:36:48,720 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 1: not climbing walls at Tijuana, that there aren't thousands of them,

1615
01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:54,840
Speaker 1: that there are only hundreds of them, and that they're

1616
01:36:54,840 --> 01:36:57,679
Speaker 1: eligible for asylum, and that they're all mothers and children.

1617
01:36:58,160 --> 01:37:01,000
Speaker 1: And and we've we've a lot of us have known

1618
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,639
Speaker 1: this for a long time that that was not true.

1619
01:37:02,920 --> 01:37:05,560
Speaker 1: But the video came out yesterday and it showed the

1620
01:37:06,280 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: very significant number in excess of I'm told and now

1621
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,720
Speaker 1: at the US border and are climbing that border and

1622
01:37:14,920 --> 01:37:18,000
Speaker 1: are breaching the rules and know that they're not eligible

1623
01:37:18,360 --> 01:37:22,280
Speaker 1: for asylum and one to get in and disappear. And

1624
01:37:22,439 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: so the whole banana apple uh standard the CNN set

1625
01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:29,920
Speaker 1: up for themselves. And if you guys haven't seen it,

1626
01:37:29,960 --> 01:37:31,360
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm right in saying that one

1627
01:37:31,360 --> 01:37:33,320
Speaker 1: American News has a funny parody of that on on

1628
01:37:33,439 --> 01:37:37,200
Speaker 1: your guys YouTube channel. Um, you know that that is

1629
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,280
Speaker 1: also of of grave concern because they're the ones, are

1630
01:37:40,320 --> 01:37:42,559
Speaker 1: they not who are pointing the fingers at President Trump

1631
01:37:42,600 --> 01:37:45,679
Speaker 1: every day and screaming liar, liar, pants on fire. Meanwhile,

1632
01:37:45,800 --> 01:37:49,920
Speaker 1: the most famous clip probably over the last year, which

1633
01:37:50,040 --> 01:37:52,280
Speaker 1: is that one of Jim Acosta trying to tell President

1634
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: Trump off, turns out to be fake news. Well what's

1635
01:37:56,040 --> 01:37:58,840
Speaker 1: clear is that viewers just look around and they do.

1636
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,880
Speaker 1: They're very very smart, and they go to multiple sources

1637
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:05,200
Speaker 1: for their news, and they'll see the red pickup trucks

1638
01:38:06,200 --> 01:38:09,720
Speaker 1: and the young gentleman after young gentlemen getting in and

1639
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:12,880
Speaker 1: there are no families, it's all men. So we know

1640
01:38:14,040 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 1: why they're coming up. They've been interviewed by numerous people,

1641
01:38:17,560 --> 01:38:20,760
Speaker 1: including our own reporters, and we know that it's for

1642
01:38:20,880 --> 01:38:24,320
Speaker 1: economic reasons. A vast majority, and we know a vast

1643
01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:27,280
Speaker 1: majority are young men. Matter of fact, it's very difficult

1644
01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,400
Speaker 1: to find families. We know that other journalists know that,

1645
01:38:30,479 --> 01:38:33,559
Speaker 1: and it's been broadly reported. So if one media outlet

1646
01:38:33,640 --> 01:38:36,920
Speaker 1: wants to distort the facts, they can do that. That's

1647
01:38:37,000 --> 01:38:39,200
Speaker 1: that we don't have a problem with that. Viewers can

1648
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:42,080
Speaker 1: decide and they're smart enough to figure out that there's

1649
01:38:42,120 --> 01:38:46,120
Speaker 1: other sources for legitimate news. And I do believe and

1650
01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:48,680
Speaker 1: I do the same thing that viewers bounce around. They

1651
01:38:48,760 --> 01:38:51,839
Speaker 1: go from TV channel to channel, they go onto the internet,

1652
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,439
Speaker 1: they talk with friends, and they'll figure it out. We

1653
01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:58,639
Speaker 1: happen to have offices in San Diego, California, and today

1654
01:38:58,680 --> 01:39:00,920
Speaker 1: we had people down on the border, and I can

1655
01:39:01,000 --> 01:39:03,240
Speaker 1: tell you that there's a lot of people right up

1656
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:06,479
Speaker 1: against the fence, crawling up on the fence, and we

1657
01:39:06,520 --> 01:39:09,840
Speaker 1: have the United States military and we have border enforcement

1658
01:39:10,240 --> 01:39:12,960
Speaker 1: on the other side trying to figure out what they're doing,

1659
01:39:13,080 --> 01:39:16,000
Speaker 1: what their game plan is, and where they're going with this.

1660
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 1: And there's another print media that's making it clear that

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01:39:19,840 --> 01:39:23,759
Speaker 1: more buses are going to be unloaded with two thousand

1662
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:27,720
Speaker 1: people either tonight or in the morning. So they're amassing

1663
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,000
Speaker 1: on the border in Tijuana. And what their plans are

1664
01:39:32,240 --> 01:39:35,040
Speaker 1: we don't know, so we'll we'll figure it out and

1665
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:37,639
Speaker 1: your viewers will figure it out. Also, they're smart enough

1666
01:39:37,720 --> 01:39:39,880
Speaker 1: to to look around at the media sources and they

1667
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,519
Speaker 1: don't need to rely just on one media source such

1668
01:39:42,520 --> 01:39:45,600
Speaker 1: as CNN. Well, what I really like about what what

1669
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:49,240
Speaker 1: One America does is, uh, you know, it's dedicated to

1670
01:39:49,360 --> 01:39:53,960
Speaker 1: news actually news reports um rather than ours and upon

1671
01:39:54,040 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: hours of opinion based programming and this room for that.

1672
01:39:57,800 --> 01:39:59,920
Speaker 1: But but what I really like about about One of

1673
01:40:00,040 --> 01:40:03,040
Speaker 1: Erican News, Charles, is the is the commitment um to

1674
01:40:03,320 --> 01:40:06,519
Speaker 1: two real reports about what's really going on. And and

1675
01:40:06,640 --> 01:40:09,679
Speaker 1: as much as a lot of your colleagues and staff

1676
01:40:09,720 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: are I consider friends, they never give me an easy

1677
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:14,720
Speaker 1: ride when they're interviewing me. It's always it's always with

1678
01:40:14,760 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: a straight bat. So kudos to you guys in your

1679
01:40:17,080 --> 01:40:19,280
Speaker 1: organization for doing what you do. Charles Hearing, the president

1680
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 1: of the One American News Network, thank you for joining

1681
01:40:21,720 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 1: us here on the Buck Sexton Show. Thank you. Well,

1682
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: there you go, ladies and gentlemen, the the only news

1683
01:40:28,600 --> 01:40:31,880
Speaker 1: network right now standing up to Jim Acosta and standing

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Speaker 1: up to see an end's lawsuit against the White House. Um,

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Speaker 1: so you know, by all means, if you are in

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01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 1: preston in favor of that, go ahead and uh and

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01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:45,400
Speaker 1: and give them your support in the form of Twitter

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01:40:45,479 --> 01:40:48,080
Speaker 1: follows and and and network views and so on and

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01:40:48,160 --> 01:40:50,320
Speaker 1: so forth, because I can't. I can't commend them enough

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01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 1: for the brave decision that they've taken in standing up

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01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,640
Speaker 1: to that chap. And I I know the frustration of

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Speaker 1: not being called upon in a room full of journalists

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01:41:00,520 --> 01:41:05,680
Speaker 1: because there is some hoity toity bigger fish in the

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01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,960
Speaker 1: room who wants to flounce around like a diva for

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01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:12,200
Speaker 1: the cameras. I've seen it happen. I've been in my

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01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: fair share of press briefings all over the world, in fact,

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01:41:17,000 --> 01:41:19,040
Speaker 1: and and you know, those of us who have worked

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01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:23,840
Speaker 1: for smaller organizations or less well known organizations or alternative

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01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:29,519
Speaker 1: news networks have problems asking questions that I think actually

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01:41:29,560 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 1: more interesting. You know that I think aren't just oh,

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01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:36,240
Speaker 1: Mrs Clinton, how come you so beautiful today? You know,

1702
01:41:36,680 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 1: Mr Obama, what makes you so brilliant, Please share it

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01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,000
Speaker 1: with us. You know, some of us actually want to

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01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:46,920
Speaker 1: ask hard, interesting pressing questions about things, and the likes

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01:41:46,960 --> 01:41:51,880
Speaker 1: of Jim Acosta just just dominate, you know, the room,

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01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:55,280
Speaker 1: dominate the time. Um, and that is not I mean,

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01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:59,400
Speaker 1: he is impeding press freedom more so than President Trump

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01:41:59,600 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: or the illustration, as far as I'm concerned is. And

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01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:07,200
Speaker 1: that's why I wanted to to bring on Charles Herring

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01:42:07,240 --> 01:42:10,080
Speaker 1: from the One American News Network too to talk to

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01:42:10,200 --> 01:42:13,760
Speaker 1: us about what what O a N is doing. I

1712
01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:16,000
Speaker 1: know more and more people are watching O A N

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01:42:16,120 --> 01:42:19,560
Speaker 1: now as well. We had a film that I was

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01:42:20,320 --> 01:42:24,439
Speaker 1: a part of called Trump at War and O E N.

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Speaker 1: We're the first outlet to to run the whole film,

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01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,439
Speaker 1: uh there before the before the midterm elections, sort of

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01:42:30,680 --> 01:42:34,639
Speaker 1: setting out the stall of the midterm elections. Very interesting film. Indeed,

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01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: you can still catch it um online on YouTube. Yeah,

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01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,559
Speaker 1: and I think it was on Western journal and Western

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01:42:41,640 --> 01:42:45,360
Speaker 1: Journalism as well. UM. Alright, the phone line is still open, ladies, gentlemen,

1721
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Speaker 1: eight to five. We're gonna go to a quick break now.

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Speaker 1: When we come back, UM, hopefully more of your calls

1723
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,160
Speaker 1: and a couple of things to wrap up. But we're

1724
01:42:55,200 --> 01:42:56,760
Speaker 1: coming to the end of the show, which is the

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01:42:56,880 --> 01:42:59,519
Speaker 1: saddest time for me, mostly because I love the sound

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01:42:59,560 --> 01:43:03,200
Speaker 1: of my own voice, but also, I mean, really, there

1727
01:43:03,320 --> 01:43:05,160
Speaker 1: is so much news, and for a nerd like me,

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01:43:06,120 --> 01:43:08,840
Speaker 1: you know, more news the better. We'll be right back

1729
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Speaker 1: here on the Buck Sexton Show after this short break

1730
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Speaker 1: coments here this evening. Marahem Kasa been your fill in

1731
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,920
Speaker 1: host for today. I always like to get my thanks

1732
01:43:21,479 --> 01:43:24,879
Speaker 1: out of the way early in this last slot because otherwise,

1733
01:43:25,240 --> 01:43:27,800
Speaker 1: as the end draws closer and I try and fit

1734
01:43:27,880 --> 01:43:30,360
Speaker 1: in more and more, I tend to forget. So I

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01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,560
Speaker 1: want to just thank the the excellent producers of this

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01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:36,640
Speaker 1: show for all their help today. Also, I hope you

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01:43:36,680 --> 01:43:39,360
Speaker 1: agree with me, the excellent guests we've had on over

1738
01:43:39,439 --> 01:43:41,280
Speaker 1: the course of the show, and of course you guys,

1739
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:47,400
Speaker 1: the callers, the listeners most importantly, because what's the point.

1740
01:43:47,479 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 1: Otherwise I just be talking to myself. I could be

1741
01:43:50,040 --> 01:43:52,360
Speaker 1: staring in a mirror and talking to myself, which you

1742
01:43:52,439 --> 01:43:55,000
Speaker 1: know I am prone to do from time to time.

1743
01:43:55,640 --> 01:43:58,320
Speaker 1: But I'm glad tonight wasn't one of them. Just a

1744
01:43:58,400 --> 01:44:02,920
Speaker 1: couple of things too was on tonight, as We've covered

1745
01:44:02,920 --> 01:44:06,960
Speaker 1: a lot, covered a lot of the voting fraud, a

1746
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:09,960
Speaker 1: lot of the gym Acosta stuff, Brexit. Gosh, think about

1747
01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:14,000
Speaker 1: all the topics we've taken on today. Turns out Florida

1748
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Speaker 1: is now not going to use Browward County's recount tally

1749
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Speaker 1: after all of this, because it was uploaded two minutes

1750
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Speaker 1: past the three pm Thursday deadline. So, after all the

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Speaker 1: cost and the expense and the agony for the voters

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01:44:37,400 --> 01:44:40,960
Speaker 1: of Florida, I'm gonna end up using those uh, those

1753
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,799
Speaker 1: recount totals anyway, A testament so how brilliant Brenda Snipes

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Speaker 1: and the Democrats down there really are. And yet and yet,

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Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, there are states, there are areas, There

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01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:01,000
Speaker 1: are counties. There are regions that our turning purple, even

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Speaker 1: under this president, even under this economy, places turning purple.

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Speaker 1: Arizona springing to mind, what is going on? What is

1759
01:45:15,439 --> 01:45:21,519
Speaker 1: with people's lack of logic, lack of brain power? How

1760
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Speaker 1: are they still voting for the crooked Democrats of this

1761
01:45:24,320 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: But I don't know. I I gotta go down there,

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Speaker 1: I think and figure it out. You know, I'm a

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Speaker 1: big fan of Arizona. Prescott is a is a big

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Speaker 1: favorite of mine. Um, so maybe I'll take a trip

1765
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Speaker 1: down there and start to figure some of this stuff out,

1766
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:40,040
Speaker 1: because it really baffles me. I wanted to pick up

1767
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Speaker 1: on something that Eric Aga said earlier on as well

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Speaker 1: that we didn't get to get into, but I thought

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Speaker 1: was a particularly a stoop point, mostly because I've been

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01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:51,200
Speaker 1: making it for a while. Um, it's that the left

1771
01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:56,960
Speaker 1: take Trump literally but not seriously, and the right take

1772
01:45:57,040 --> 01:46:01,760
Speaker 1: Trump seriously but not literally. Think about that. There is

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Speaker 1: something in the right wing mind at the moment, the

1774
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Speaker 1: conservative mind at the moment, that tends towards irony. The

1775
01:46:10,360 --> 01:46:13,639
Speaker 1: left used to love irony, remember George Carlin, Bill Mars

1776
01:46:13,640 --> 01:46:16,200
Speaker 1: still has a sense of irony, but more or less

1777
01:46:16,240 --> 01:46:19,519
Speaker 1: the rest of them let it go. Their literalists. They

1778
01:46:19,600 --> 01:46:22,400
Speaker 1: believe everything literally, They take everything at face value. They

1779
01:46:22,439 --> 01:46:26,960
Speaker 1: don't question, they don't ask, they're not curious. That's a

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Speaker 1: great pity for them, but it's incumbent upon us. And

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Speaker 1: I'm glad that Eric Metaxas, who we had earlier on today,

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Speaker 1: does things like makes the books for the kids. The

1783
01:46:34,840 --> 01:46:39,240
Speaker 1: cultural war, the war for your heart as well as

1784
01:46:39,320 --> 01:46:43,439
Speaker 1: your mind, is raging right now, and Buck Sexton will

1785
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Speaker 1: be back to captain you again tomorrow. I've been Rehem Kassam,

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Speaker 1: you've been great. Have a great evening.