1 00:00:04,720 --> 00:00:07,240 Speaker 1: Charge and beat the Steelers twenty five to ten. Keenan 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: Allen passes Antonio Gate for the most receptions in Chargers history. Gates, 3 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 1: friend of mine, Pro Football Hall of Famer, had nine 4 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:18,919 Speaker 1: to fifty five and now Keenan Allen has nine to 5 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: fifty six. But oh, you're watching this game last night, 6 00:00:23,960 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 1: last night, night one nighty. 7 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,520 Speaker 2: Pure dominance, pure dominance from the Chargers. The Steelers on good. 8 00:00:33,320 --> 00:00:37,080 Speaker 2: They're not good enough. Obviously offensively, you can't turn the 9 00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,239 Speaker 2: ball over. Look, it was a deep the first two quarters. 10 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:42,959 Speaker 2: I was like, okay, this is a good game. It's 11 00:00:43,000 --> 00:00:47,320 Speaker 2: it's three to two. You know, defense, both defense playing 12 00:00:47,360 --> 00:00:48,040 Speaker 2: extremely well. 13 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 3: Both offices really couldn't get nothing going. 14 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: But at some point the Chargers, you know how they are, 15 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 2: They're gonna keep chipping and chipping and chipping. At some 16 00:00:56,040 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 2: point that offense is gonna catch fire. They're gonna start 17 00:00:58,360 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: moving the ball. When they're getting the red zone, they 18 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 2: gonna score and put up some points. And the defense 19 00:01:03,360 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 2: played so well. They had Aaron Rodgers shook that had 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 2: him uncomfortable. He rushed and throws some very very bad habits, 21 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:12,399 Speaker 2: even though he is a very good throw at the ball. 22 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 2: Some very bad habits, causing balls to seal on him, 23 00:01:14,959 --> 00:01:18,600 Speaker 2: which were really easy, easy completions, drop passes that ended 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: up being interceptions. They really couldn't get anything going all 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 2: night long. On third down. They goddamn the damn Steelers was. 26 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: What hold on? 27 00:01:30,000 --> 00:01:31,640 Speaker 3: I just had it right in front. They were two 28 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 3: for eleven to e eleven. 29 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 4: But you ain't. 30 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 2: You ain't finna do nothing with that. You're not gonna 31 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 2: do nothing with that at all. So listen, the Chargers 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,120 Speaker 2: played really well. Even though they the Steelers lost the game. 33 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 2: They are still first in the division. 34 00:01:46,080 --> 00:01:48,360 Speaker 3: I think there was not for a much longer though. 35 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 3: The Bengals coming. I'm glad you know that. I'm glad 36 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,800 Speaker 3: See I'm glad you and you you know football. 37 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: That's one thing. That's one thing I can say about you. 38 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 2: I don't care what they say, but you know football. 39 00:01:57,920 --> 00:02:00,280 Speaker 2: You know the Bengals coming in to take that division over. 40 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 2: So but it listen, No, there's no chance of that. 41 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Ojo. You mentioned that they're not good defensively. If they 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: can't get to your quarterback, they're very average on the 43 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 1: back end. Let's call it what it is, Chad. I 44 00:02:13,880 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: know y'all like the Steelers, and A and and most 45 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: of the people my age, and a lot of they 46 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: have a lot of fans they travel with really well. 47 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 4: But the Steelers aren't good. 48 00:02:22,760 --> 00:02:25,160 Speaker 1: If they can't if those two guys outside can't get 49 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 1: to your quarterback, if they can't attack your quarterback, give it. 50 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: Give the quarterback any amount of time, They're either going 51 00:02:31,480 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 1: to be a completion or it's going to be holding. 52 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: That's what it is. 53 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:34,960 Speaker 4: Uh. 54 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 1: And their offensive line, the Steelers offensive line isn't good. 55 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is not as mobile as he once was, 56 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: so he can't keep continuously getting himself out of arm's way. 57 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: He had some bad throws. They sailed on him. He 58 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 1: had DK early in the game. Sell that one. The 59 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 1: other one he hit the guy right between the numbers. Yeah, 60 00:02:52,440 --> 00:02:54,920 Speaker 1: often had one slip through his hand to. 61 00:02:54,919 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 4: Get the pick. 62 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: I don't know why the punt return is trying to 63 00:02:57,880 --> 00:02:59,799 Speaker 1: you say and get away, and then you tried to 64 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: the ball. You never feel the wall below you waist 65 00:03:03,360 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: if you gotta go down here to catch it. I 66 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: tell you know, you don't feel no mo like that. 67 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: You've been fielding punts far too long to know. You 68 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 1: don't put you don't take a ball below you waist, 69 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,080 Speaker 1: and here you are trying to do something that your 70 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:16,600 Speaker 1: coach not to do, trying to be a hero, and 71 00:03:16,639 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 1: guess what, you give them another cheap, easy three points. 72 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: But the Steelers just watching the Steelers, and you watch, 73 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:25,040 Speaker 1: like I said, you watch them, and yet they're five 74 00:03:25,080 --> 00:03:27,399 Speaker 1: and four, their winning, but they're not good. They don't 75 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 1: have it. They don't have a team that can compete 76 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: port Championship. Now, Mike Thomas is gonna go into and 77 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 1: you know, to tell them and give all these great 78 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,040 Speaker 1: clubs and these great sound bites, but he know, deep 79 00:03:36,080 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: down they don't have a team that can compete for 80 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: a chance. 81 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:40,680 Speaker 3: The funny thing about it is they have the players 82 00:03:40,720 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: on paper. 83 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 2: When when when they got some of the off season 84 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 2: acquisitions that they did get, I was like, okay, the 85 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: still is gonna be nice. There still is gonna be 86 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: real nice. Obviously getting Jayalen Ramsey, you know, Darius Slay, 87 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,080 Speaker 2: big place Slayers there, TJ. 88 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:53,480 Speaker 4: Watt. 89 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:56,800 Speaker 2: TJ Watt signed, so they got cam Hey, We're done. 90 00:03:56,800 --> 00:03:59,640 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, you know what on all three levels 91 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: deep offensively, they gonna be all right. If there is 92 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 2: a weakness, is there is a weak link. It'd probably 93 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 2: be the second level, but they would make up for 94 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 2: that on the back end and up front. 95 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:15,040 Speaker 1: But listen, let's be real. Those are the names. Those 96 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: guys they played good in the Wild Oat Show. Let's 97 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:19,520 Speaker 1: be we're gonna keep it real tonight in night Camp. 98 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:22,640 Speaker 1: But their name still at good that with names. They 99 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: got big names. But those guys haven't played well in 100 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 1: a while. That's why they're on other teams. 101 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:35,279 Speaker 2: Man, that's that's that's difficult. I know, I know what 102 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 2: you mean. Ramsey wanted want it out in Miami. He 103 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 2: wanted out of Miami. I thought the Steelers would have 104 00:04:42,200 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 2: been a great situation for him. I think he's still 105 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,160 Speaker 2: wanted the better corners even though he's moved to safety. 106 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 2: You got the experience with Ramsey, then you have big 107 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 2: pay Slay. Yeah, listen, Slay looked good last year's when 108 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 2: we were in Philly. He played extremely well, played extremely 109 00:04:57,320 --> 00:04:59,400 Speaker 2: well in the playoffs as well. So I mean when 110 00:04:59,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: you when you say. 111 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, when you had that pass rush, but what happened 112 00:05:03,440 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: when them guys can't get home and you got a 113 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:09,360 Speaker 1: hold just a tad longer. Like I said, if you 114 00:05:09,400 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: look at the names, on paper the names you. Oh, 115 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:13,920 Speaker 1: he in pro Boh he went to the Pro Bowl. Oh, 116 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:15,720 Speaker 1: he went to the Pro Bowl. He's an All Pro. 117 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: He did this. 118 00:05:17,760 --> 00:05:21,159 Speaker 4: But all the guys, they haven't played well in a while. 119 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:22,560 Speaker 4: They haven't. 120 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 1: That's not to say they weren't good at a at 121 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 1: a particular time, because every guy that you mentioned was, 122 00:05:29,200 --> 00:05:33,279 Speaker 1: they were good. They're just not what they once were now. 123 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 1: And that's what the Steelers need. People are not It 124 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 1: used to be a time on Joe, people were in 125 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: all names. Now people will make it, will make an 126 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,279 Speaker 1: example out of you and usual catapult themselves because of 127 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:46,800 Speaker 1: your name. 128 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 4: And and people ain't looking well. No. 129 00:05:49,440 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 1: All I know is like Paul Pierce told me, he said, 130 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: look I beat stepping the three point competition. I say, man, 131 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: that man was this rookie year with he Steph Curry? 132 00:05:58,040 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: Is he the greatest shoot the ball tap? I don't 133 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: know how he was, Okay, Ain't nobody gonna care? Man, 134 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,159 Speaker 1: This guy was in his thirteenth year, this guy was 135 00:06:06,160 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: in his eleven year. All I know was that who 136 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: you said he was. They're not good, They're not. They're 137 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,000 Speaker 1: just not. And and and at some point in time, 138 00:06:16,040 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: we just got that. We gotta call it. We gotta 139 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:20,840 Speaker 1: call it like we see it. They got good, they 140 00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: got big names. But if what and hot Smith can't 141 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,920 Speaker 1: get home, if that front, if that front can't get 142 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:29,920 Speaker 1: home because they got heat bringing, they got a couple 143 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: of other guys. If those guys don't don't get home, 144 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 1: oh that ball getting completed on the back end. It's 145 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: really that simple. It's really that simple. But they're not close, Ocho, 146 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: They're not. They're not. I mean, look at this. They 147 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: had eleven first downs. There are two eleven On third down, 148 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: they had two hundred and twenty one yards of hold on. 149 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:50,720 Speaker 4: That's Aaron Rodgers at quarterback. 150 00:06:51,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he had he had. 151 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:55,120 Speaker 4: They had the ball, Ocho, they had the ball for 152 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 4: twenty He. 153 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 3: Had a bad day. 154 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 2: He had a bad dead office. He had a bad 155 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,000 Speaker 2: dead office. It happens, happened to It happens to the 156 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 2: best of us. It happened to some of the better teams, 157 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 2: as we'll talk about later on in the show, team 158 00:07:05,200 --> 00:07:07,359 Speaker 2: that we expect to play well. I expected this to 159 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:09,800 Speaker 2: be probably one of the better games today out of 160 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:13,960 Speaker 2: the I to one of the better games. It's just 161 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:16,560 Speaker 2: it's just the funny thing about the NFL. The funny 162 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,320 Speaker 2: thing about the NFL, it's just you get games like 163 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: this where you're expecting to be not not a blowout, 164 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,240 Speaker 2: but you expected it to be exciting. You expected to 165 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,720 Speaker 2: be yes, yes, you're going back and forth. 166 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 3: And it just wasn't that. It just didn't give that. 167 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: So it's it's weird. It's weird how it's really really. 168 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,120 Speaker 2: Weird how that works week the week where you can 169 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 2: never you can never really guarantee what's gonna happen. 170 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what the Steelers were thinking. I don't 171 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: know that they were supposed to being played for Waddle 172 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,040 Speaker 1: And there are a couple of other receivers they should 173 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: have been in play for. But they should have because 174 00:07:50,480 --> 00:07:53,240 Speaker 1: really they don't have but one guy and and and 175 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 1: and if he can't complete the ball to to d K, 176 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: it ain't getting completed the other the other the other 177 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: guys are just guys. There, they're guys. They're there, They're 178 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:04,920 Speaker 1: there three twos, lord twos, threes. 179 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: But sometimes you got to win with that, sometimes those twos. 180 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 4: And you ain't win no championship with that. 181 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 3: What you mean, they have to make plays, They got 182 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,760 Speaker 3: to catch the ball. This is the NFL. Every team 183 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 3: can't have can't have one on one twos. You just can't. 184 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 4: You have to do. 185 00:08:20,280 --> 00:08:21,640 Speaker 3: You have to make do with what you got. 186 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 2: So it's up to those players, the Calvin Austin's, you know, 187 00:08:24,760 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 2: anyone outside of DK, the tight ends they have, they 188 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 2: have to make those plays. 189 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,480 Speaker 1: Well, you need Steve Austin, the six million dollar man 190 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,280 Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, if you're gonna make some plays with what 191 00:08:35,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 1: they got. Because Aaron is not what he once was. 192 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:40,959 Speaker 1: He can't move around like he was the like he 193 00:08:41,080 --> 00:08:44,199 Speaker 1: once did. He's not as accurate as he once was 194 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,520 Speaker 1: because he's you're forcing him to move. I mean, Aaron 195 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:51,400 Speaker 1: Rodgers thrown interception. Man, there were there were times Aaron 196 00:08:51,480 --> 00:08:55,719 Speaker 1: Rodgers threw four interceptions in a season. He's got four 197 00:08:55,760 --> 00:09:00,520 Speaker 1: in the last two games. We never this ain't Aaron 198 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers that were used to seeing, Yeah, he could have. 199 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: The thing is Ojoe And I've said this having been 200 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 1: having a player that played really good when I was 201 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,839 Speaker 1: young and as I started to get older. The thing 202 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 1: that I tell people, you can have a big game, 203 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 1: you just can't have them with the regularity you did 204 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: when you were in your prime. And we've seen Aaron 205 00:09:18,040 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: Rodgers have games that remind you that is the old 206 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:25,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But they just don't come with the frequency 207 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:26,560 Speaker 1: like they once did. 208 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:29,480 Speaker 4: And that's what they need. They needed Aaron Rodgers. 209 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 1: They need MVP Aaron Rodgers that could carry an average 210 00:09:34,280 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: or mediocre defense. He can't do that now, as guys 211 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:39,480 Speaker 1: get no what do they need, O Joe? What did 212 00:09:39,520 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: Tom Brady need? Tom Brady the guys that could elevate 213 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:46,720 Speaker 1: him he needed. He needed a Godwin, He needed Mike Evans, 214 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,480 Speaker 1: he needed a Kdart and he needed Gronk to come back. 215 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: He needed and Antonio Brown, those guys that he once 216 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,440 Speaker 1: won win and New England had gotten old and they 217 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,280 Speaker 1: could no longer do. He could no longer elevate them. 218 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,439 Speaker 1: So now I need you to help pull me because 219 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: I can't pull you guys no more. I can't carry 220 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:08,960 Speaker 1: you no more. That's okay. But if the Steelers weren't 221 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,320 Speaker 1: but was gonna stand pad with what they had, There's 222 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: no way they thought that was good enough to win. 223 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:15,559 Speaker 1: No way, no way. 224 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 2: Listen, we we halfway we halfway through the season. They've 225 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 2: They've had they had some good games. They have some 226 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 2: games where they played well, then they have some some 227 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: some shitty games like to night. I mean, you're gonna 228 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:28,960 Speaker 2: have gay. You want to be as consistent as possible. 229 00:10:29,320 --> 00:10:32,000 Speaker 2: You want to be as consistent as possible, and being 230 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 2: hitting your stride. You want to hit the stride offensively 231 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 2: and defensely at the right time. You don't want to 232 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 2: peak too early, you want to peak too soon. You 233 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 2: want to hit it at the right time. I still 234 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: think they do have a chance. The fact that they 235 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:44,640 Speaker 2: are still first in the division. They they they got 236 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: to play better. They got to play better. 237 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:49,599 Speaker 3: We've seen we've seen teams have games like this and 238 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 3: then hit it right when it counts and when it 239 00:10:51,559 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 3: matters most. 240 00:10:54,200 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: But we've seen them skate by a couple of victories 241 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,719 Speaker 1: that they could have eaten. I mean, I don't think 242 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:03,880 Speaker 1: there were any games that they they they they lost 243 00:11:04,800 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: that they should have won. But we've seen some games 244 00:11:07,240 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: that they want They should have lost that jet game 245 00:11:11,240 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 1: if that guyumber that ball. 246 00:11:14,200 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 4: But it is what it is. 247 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: We'll see there are nine games. If they played nine games, 248 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: they're five and four, there's eight games left. I don't 249 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:25,079 Speaker 1: I don't believe they can hold the Ravens off with 250 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,080 Speaker 1: the raven with the way the Ravens are currently playing. 251 00:11:28,360 --> 00:11:30,559 Speaker 1: With Lamar playing at the level of which he's playing, 252 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:31,840 Speaker 1: I don't think they can hold him off. 253 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 3: For you, you know, i'mnna let you have that one. 254 00:11:34,040 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let you have that one because I was 255 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: gonna mention who they actually played and the team they 256 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:40,559 Speaker 2: actually played did a phenomenal job today and it's a 257 00:11:40,600 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: reason why they're probably gonna win the AFC East and 258 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:44,480 Speaker 2: rejuvenize their season. 259 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 3: If you can who you can hear. 260 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:55,439 Speaker 4: The afcast. That's New England's Division. That's New England. 261 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,720 Speaker 3: Division times eight games left. 262 00:12:01,679 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Oh Joe Eagles ten, Packers seven. A scoreless first half, 263 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 1: the first time in nearly two years that the NFL 264 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: has had a scoreless first half, but the Eagles make 265 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: enough plays. A big play over the top of thirty 266 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:17,720 Speaker 1: six yards Jayalen hurts to Devonte Smith, former teammates at 267 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,520 Speaker 1: the University of Alabama, and that was really the difference 268 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,040 Speaker 1: in the ball game as they win ten to seven. 269 00:12:25,720 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 4: Oh Joa, I'm gonna let you take it go ahead. 270 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 3: Unless you're a defensive guy. Unless you're a defensive guy, 271 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:34,320 Speaker 3: that's the only way. 272 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 4: Your microphone where you're not we could give muffled. 273 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:42,559 Speaker 3: Oh shoot, hey, I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad. 274 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: I'm glad. I'm glad. 275 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:43,920 Speaker 3: You said something. 276 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 4: Can you give me now? 277 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I say, unless you're a defensive guy, that's 278 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 2: the only way you enjoyed this game. 279 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:52,600 Speaker 3: That's the only way you enjoyed this game. You expect 280 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:54,560 Speaker 3: you expect a lot of you expect a lot. 281 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: Of points, especially from the Green Bay Packers the way 282 00:12:57,000 --> 00:12:59,200 Speaker 2: we talked about them before the season started, with all 283 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 2: the weapons that they had have, Jordan Love actually continuing 284 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,719 Speaker 2: to get better, you know, uh, year to year, and 285 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: it was bad. 286 00:13:06,679 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 3: It was bad. Sat Quan almost got loose a little bit. 287 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 2: So I expected him to finally make make make his 288 00:13:12,440 --> 00:13:14,839 Speaker 2: uh his visit to the party and having a big 289 00:13:14,920 --> 00:13:16,439 Speaker 2: game and do some and yeah, and do some of 290 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 2: the things that Jonathan Taylor has been doing as of late. 291 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: But that didn't happen. It was a close game. It 292 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 2: was a game where the team with the fewest mistakes 293 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:27,400 Speaker 2: was going to win. The team with the fewest mistakes 294 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 2: were going to win, and in the end, there was 295 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:31,240 Speaker 2: an opportunity for Green Bay to be able to tie it, 296 00:13:31,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 2: and it just it just didn't happen they missed. I'm 297 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: not sure if you enjoyed this game. Maybe maybe you 298 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,640 Speaker 2: might have liked it, uh, based based. 299 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 4: On what you saw. 300 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 2: But I'm not gonna call it the snooze fest because 301 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,640 Speaker 2: I was hyped before the game started. Oh my goodness, 302 00:13:46,720 --> 00:13:49,559 Speaker 2: the Packers playing, Oh, the Eagles playing, it's gonna I 303 00:13:49,640 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 2: thought maybe it would have been a ball, it's gonna 304 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 2: be a barn burner. 305 00:13:52,640 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 4: But hey, it was. 306 00:13:53,960 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 3: It was upsetting. 307 00:13:55,480 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, it left a lot to be desire. I mean, 308 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:02,760 Speaker 1: we're thinking about two teams, two quarterbacks that's been to 309 00:14:02,800 --> 00:14:05,120 Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl. One quarterback that's one that's won a 310 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,120 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. He's been a Super Bowl MVP. I don't 311 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 1: think either quarterback played particularly well in this game. I 312 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,199 Speaker 1: thought Jalen Hursts made the throws that he needed to make, 313 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:15,439 Speaker 1: especially that big one to the Vonta Smith could have 314 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,760 Speaker 1: put a nice a ribbon on that a bowl, a 315 00:14:18,920 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 1: nice bowl on the box had he hit to drop 316 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 1: that one in the bucket to aj Aj, I don't 317 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: care what y'all say, Eagles fan, ain't no way aj 318 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:28,800 Speaker 1: coming back next year. But we'll talk about that a 319 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 1: little another day in time. 320 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 4: Oh. 321 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: I just I just don't get Jordan Love, the mistakes 322 00:14:33,720 --> 00:14:37,560 Speaker 1: that he makes. They got to throw him seven you run, 323 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,800 Speaker 1: you run the over concept. I'm gonna dangle this cheese 324 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:43,040 Speaker 1: out here in front of you hoping somebody go to 325 00:14:43,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 1: the short route. 326 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:48,080 Speaker 4: Boy, don't you throw it? They did. The Eagles play 327 00:14:48,160 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 4: it exactly how you draw it up. 328 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 1: They jumped, They dump musk Grave on the on the 329 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: short route, and you got the end cut coming in 330 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,200 Speaker 1: behind him for the first down, and he takes the 331 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: seven yards when you need nine. I'm confused, bro, And 332 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:06,400 Speaker 1: and I was like, damn, I wonder what Laflour is thinking. 333 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: And then he went and looked at it on the eyepad. 334 00:15:08,840 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 1: He said, you got to be eating me, you got 335 00:15:12,000 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: to be hitting me. And then he's getting I mean, 336 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,560 Speaker 1: he steps up in the pocket instead of all these 337 00:15:17,600 --> 00:15:19,960 Speaker 1: guys breaking free all I mean, he got the shot 338 00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:22,560 Speaker 1: across breaking free, he got the end cut breaking free, 339 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,840 Speaker 1: he got the over breaking free, and it takes off running. 340 00:15:25,600 --> 00:15:30,080 Speaker 4: Like he lamar Jackson, bro, throw the ball, oh Joe. 341 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, the contract that he got, he earned that. But 342 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: he's not meaning expectations of what they happened. And I 343 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: told you, I said, even with this Michael trade. Are 344 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,360 Speaker 1: we sure they're better than the Rams? 345 00:15:41,520 --> 00:15:44,880 Speaker 4: I'll ask you that. I said, oh yo, are we sure? Yeah? 346 00:15:46,440 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 3: And that was a hard one back then to answer 347 00:15:48,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 3: that question. Honestly it was. 348 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:52,360 Speaker 2: It was a hard one, especially, you know, with the 349 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 2: way the season started, the expectations that they did have, 350 00:15:55,320 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: and the expectations that we had watching Jordan Love and 351 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:01,680 Speaker 2: what he's been able to do as of late. 352 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 3: I mean you you would think, hell, they're gonna be 353 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:04,560 Speaker 3: right down and running. 354 00:16:06,440 --> 00:16:08,800 Speaker 1: George Love is just a little bit too inconsistent for 355 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: my fancy and the throws that he's missing. Ohoe, if 356 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:14,960 Speaker 1: that's a rookie quarterback or second year quarterback, I'll kind 357 00:16:14,960 --> 00:16:16,720 Speaker 1: of give him a little lead. Yeah, I kind of 358 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:18,800 Speaker 1: give him a little grace. But when you've a Pro 359 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Bowl quarterback, when you have the level expectations, when you've 360 00:16:22,120 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: earned the money that you're making, you can't make those mistakes. 361 00:16:25,560 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 4: Bro. 362 00:16:25,880 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: You get in facked and you're gonna do what you do. 363 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:32,320 Speaker 1: You try to pack the ball to Josh Jacob. Josh Jacob, Okay, 364 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,400 Speaker 1: they coming on the bliz. You hit the guy, leak out, 365 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: either breakout or break in. You can't keep straight up 366 00:16:38,680 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: the field. Bro, you gotta give him an anger to 367 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:48,200 Speaker 1: throw you the football. This is why I can't coach Ojo. 368 00:16:48,520 --> 00:16:51,760 Speaker 1: Some things they shouldn't have to tell you. You know, 369 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: damn well, Josh Jacobs, you're not gonna run no route. 370 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: If you sleeping out and you're gonna keep straight up 371 00:16:56,760 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 1: the field, you're gonna break out or you're gonna break 372 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: in because you gotta ge even I ain't gonna throw 373 00:17:00,800 --> 00:17:03,600 Speaker 1: you the football, so I don't. I don't blame Jordan 374 00:17:03,640 --> 00:17:05,639 Speaker 1: Love for that, for missing that throw, because they're like, bro, 375 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: if you break out, you give me. I mean, think 376 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: about it. You got bron on your hip, you catch this, 377 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: ain't no telling how far are you gonna go. The 378 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 1: Eagles the one thing they're gonna do, they're gonna make plays. 379 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: They're gonna find a way to get the ball. I 380 00:17:18,359 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: thought green May did a great job of Jalen Hurst. 381 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:23,320 Speaker 1: Get the ball, gets going, get picked up a big 382 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,320 Speaker 1: and the guy comes in punches it out. I was like, Okay, 383 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: Green Bay, you might be onto something, but you know 384 00:17:28,880 --> 00:17:30,920 Speaker 1: you've got to protect the ball for four quarters when 385 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: you play the Eagles, because they're very opportunistic. They'll find 386 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,440 Speaker 1: a way to get the ball out. Oh Joe, I 387 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:37,960 Speaker 1: just need you to help me with one thing, and 388 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,840 Speaker 1: then I'm gonna let you go take it. It's fourth 389 00:17:40,880 --> 00:17:43,000 Speaker 1: and one. Why are you trying to go in a 390 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,760 Speaker 1: hurry when you've already got first? Of all, they missed 391 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 1: your first the first ball start on the quarterbacks sneak 392 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,720 Speaker 1: in the first quarter. They missed that one. The damn 393 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 1: show missed the one of the twis push. I'm trying 394 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,320 Speaker 1: to figure out, how can I see things in real time? 395 00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:58,000 Speaker 1: The official that the damn game can't. We'll get to 396 00:17:58,040 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: that in a minute. 397 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:01,600 Speaker 3: And then that's a they're not supposed to call it. 398 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:03,040 Speaker 3: They're not. 399 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:06,920 Speaker 4: He got fourth and one. This is the money down. 400 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:09,160 Speaker 4: Take the time out. 401 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 1: Give me your best fourth and one, Give me your 402 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:14,159 Speaker 1: best fourth Okay, what do we like on fourth and one? 403 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:15,879 Speaker 4: What do you a, Jordan? What do you like on 404 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 4: fourth and one? We got three options right here? I 405 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:25,960 Speaker 4: like this. Which one do you like? Receiver? Hm? 406 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,560 Speaker 1: When they go when they go double tight, when they 407 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 1: go jumbo formation. They got four line, they got one 408 00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:38,879 Speaker 1: center guard, tackle, extra offensive lineman. That extra offensive lineman 409 00:18:39,000 --> 00:18:41,679 Speaker 1: is a tight end. You got to back your ass up. 410 00:18:41,800 --> 00:18:42,920 Speaker 1: You're the Z receiver. 411 00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 4: The guy to the open side. Now he's the ex receiver. 412 00:18:47,440 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 4: Mm hmm. 413 00:18:49,000 --> 00:18:52,160 Speaker 1: Boy, look here, Sometimes, oh Joe, what I get upset about? 414 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 1: Sometimes I'll be watching these guys play. If dynamite was brained, 415 00:18:55,760 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 1: they couldn't blow the nose. Looking here, This is why chat. 416 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,719 Speaker 1: I mean, it's common sense. Oh Joe, you've got an 417 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:06,560 Speaker 1: extra lineman. 418 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:10,440 Speaker 4: He's on the ball. He's not a tight end. You 419 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:15,399 Speaker 4: got the back off. Yeah, the open side is not 420 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 4: the ex receiver. M hm. 421 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:22,600 Speaker 1: It's just it's just common it's just so. It it 422 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: may maybe maybe it's me because some things you just like, 423 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, it's just calmon knowledge. I could just like 424 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 1: really think on the fly and just like, Okay, I'm 425 00:19:33,359 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 1: supposed to be. 426 00:19:33,920 --> 00:19:34,360 Speaker 4: On the ball. 427 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:37,239 Speaker 1: I made the mistake one time and it cost us 428 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: a big play, and I promise I'd never be in 429 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: that situation again. I know who's supposed to be on 430 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,920 Speaker 1: the ball, But if he lines up on the ball, 431 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: oh Joe, ain't no harm, no power. I'll back up 432 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:49,479 Speaker 1: off the ball. Instead of having a play where now 433 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: all of a sudden we have an illegal formation because 434 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,000 Speaker 1: me I'm supposed to be on the ball, you're supposed 435 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: to be on the nah nah na na, you get 436 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: on the ball, I'll get off a lot of times. Yeah, 437 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,360 Speaker 1: I like to be on the ball. A lot of times. 438 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: Guys don't like to be on the ball because you're 439 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: closer to the defender. I like building the ball because 440 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,359 Speaker 1: it's gonna give me an opportunity to get my hands 441 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: on you, because I'm gonna throw you ass. 442 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:15,480 Speaker 3: You know you know what that tells me too, unk. 443 00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 2: After after one, two, three, three, four, four days to prepare, 444 00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,840 Speaker 2: after three days of two days of real of real 445 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,040 Speaker 2: practice fridays of fast Friday, I mean one day of 446 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 2: fast Friday. 447 00:20:25,040 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: That that actual play that they did call. 448 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: On that fourth and one is one that they didn't 449 00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,719 Speaker 2: go over many times, one that they didn't rehearse very 450 00:20:32,760 --> 00:20:34,800 Speaker 2: many times. One that they didn't go through and walk 451 00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,080 Speaker 2: through on Saturday on Saturday mornings. You know when we 452 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 2: talk about situational football in cases comes up on four down, 453 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 2: and these are the players we choose from. 454 00:20:44,000 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: This is the alignment that we need. 455 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,399 Speaker 4: That's that's why that why are you, oh Joe, this 456 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,000 Speaker 4: is the most important. This is this is for the game. 457 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, why would you watch it? 458 00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 1: Would I would rather take a time out because the 459 00:20:57,640 --> 00:21:01,359 Speaker 1: likelihood of you getting the ball back if and if 460 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:02,800 Speaker 1: you do get the ball back, oh your you're not 461 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 1: gonna get it back with a whole bunch of time. 462 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 4: So now, and you look at the position that you're in, 463 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 4: Look where you are, bro, I'm like, you got to 464 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 4: be kidding me. You rush that on fourth and one Normally, 465 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:17,240 Speaker 4: O Joe. 466 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: If I'm gonna invest something, and this is my last, 467 00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 1: I ain't your fit, put it round right there, Ojo. 468 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna think about this. Okay, let me think about this. Okay, 469 00:21:25,359 --> 00:21:26,680 Speaker 1: this is my absolute last. 470 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 3: Here you got and it got to be, got to be, 471 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:29,879 Speaker 3: got to. 472 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: Be the best option. I mean, the Eagles the one 473 00:21:35,920 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: thing they don't they don't they're not gonna do. And 474 00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:41,200 Speaker 1: you can think about, Sirianni whatever you want. They're not 475 00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:45,800 Speaker 1: gonna beat themselves. They're not gonna beat themselves. They're gonna 476 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: line up properly. Then line is gonna be where they're 477 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: supposed to be. If a guy's on the ball, he's 478 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: gonna be on the ball. If the guy's off the ball, 479 00:21:51,600 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: he's gonna be off the ball. Defensively, they're gonna be 480 00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:54,800 Speaker 1: where they're supposed to be. 481 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:55,320 Speaker 4: Man. 482 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:57,520 Speaker 1: I watched the situation where they had they ran twenty 483 00:21:57,560 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: two many, they ran what we call cover five. 484 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: Ojoe went to too man. Man I watched my Mitchell 485 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 4: m man. I thought it was a Congo movie. Roo 486 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 4: dns ain't movee ha ha ha ha ha ha ain't 487 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:16,880 Speaker 4: moved nowhere. Oh damn sir, oh j don't laugh back 488 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 4: man oh Joe ha ha ha. And he ain't moved quick. 489 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:32,800 Speaker 4: Mitchell stabbed it with one and he just standing up roll. 490 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: You got to be all that dancing is fine if 491 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 1: you're at the disco, but when you're on the football field, 492 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,560 Speaker 1: you got to be moving forward because the quarterback is 493 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: come as he's going back and you're still at the 494 00:22:44,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. And remember we had the conversation Josh 495 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,080 Speaker 1: Jacobs said, we need a dog. We got some good 496 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 1: reading it and and all the receivers got mad and 497 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 1: they need a dog go to they need to go. 498 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,479 Speaker 1: They got they got this, they got good, they got 499 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: quality receivers. I think Watson is the best, but he 500 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 1: can't stay healthy. He got so much speed, he got hamstring, 501 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: he had his knee. He can't stay healthy. 502 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 2: Well, listen, listen what we're looking for when we talk 503 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 2: about a dog. They have such good quality wide receivers 504 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 2: that are really good at doing different things. All this, 505 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: all these little fine tuning up. It ain't nothing but 506 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:26,320 Speaker 2: a little fine. 507 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 4: But they need to come see you so they can 508 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 4: get they can find tune it. 509 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:31,880 Speaker 3: Hey, and let me tell you something. 510 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:35,600 Speaker 2: Everybody, every if you think about it, everybody came to 511 00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,160 Speaker 2: that wide receiver workshop and July. You see what they're 512 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: doing this year, right, hey, j JSN. JSN had my 513 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 2: eyes wide open being able to see him in person there. 514 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,840 Speaker 3: I saw him at Ohio State. I seen him at 515 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 3: the Rose Bowl. 516 00:23:47,960 --> 00:23:49,000 Speaker 4: You know, I saw him. 517 00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,200 Speaker 3: I saw him saw him. 518 00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,680 Speaker 2: A little a little bit last year. But I was 519 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: not expecting this. I didn't expect what I'm seeing now, 520 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 2: you know. And just listen, Dobbs Wicks, Jayden Reed, come 521 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: on back down here, man, bringing boys with you. Man, 522 00:24:05,400 --> 00:24:08,399 Speaker 2: let's politic together. Continue to work on our craft, continue 523 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 2: to work on our game and get better for situations 524 00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:13,080 Speaker 2: like today, For Knights. 525 00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 3: Like today, we're plays where plays. 526 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,359 Speaker 2: Don't come often, and the ones that you do make 527 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,119 Speaker 2: you got to make a difference. These are the reasons 528 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 2: why you get paid the million. These type of games 529 00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 2: are the reasons why you get paid the big bucks. 530 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:31,280 Speaker 1: Look for me, I think the way the Eagles are 531 00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: gonna have to win, They're gonna have to win the 532 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: game more on Jalen Hurt's arms than say one legs 533 00:24:36,480 --> 00:24:37,199 Speaker 1: as opposed to. 534 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,159 Speaker 4: Where it was last year. Teams are not gonna let 535 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:40,880 Speaker 4: him run wild. 536 00:24:42,280 --> 00:24:44,360 Speaker 1: Last year, it seemed like every game we've coming out 537 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: here and we're like, man, how y'all keep letting this 538 00:24:46,160 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 1: man hit his head on the goal post from sixty ye, 539 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: how y'all let him hit his goal ahead on the 540 00:24:50,200 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: goal post twice from fifty plus. 541 00:24:52,359 --> 00:24:54,400 Speaker 4: Now there's like, we're gonna shut this water off. 542 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:58,399 Speaker 1: You're gonna have to get water elsewhere, and elsewhere is 543 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:00,879 Speaker 1: gonna be in the form of Jalen Hurts, his legs 544 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,960 Speaker 1: and his arms. But they do a great job. Jalen 545 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: is rare that Hurts turns the ball over. They got 546 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 1: it out the night. You know, they got him going 547 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 1: down and then boom, dude get it with the peanut punch. 548 00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:14,840 Speaker 1: Did a great job of getting it out. But if 549 00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,800 Speaker 1: I'm the Packers, the pack it's a team game. But 550 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: you know, the frustration is starting to get built, O 551 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 1: Joe bro We held that team to ten points. We 552 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:28,320 Speaker 1: held that team to ten points. We held Sa Kwan 553 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,600 Speaker 1: Barkley to sixty yards. We held the quarterback to under 554 00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: two hundred yards passing. That's gotta be enough. Well it 555 00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: wasn't enough. So you're gonna have to find ways that Like, 556 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: you're gonna have to create more turnovers. You're gonna have 557 00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:44,920 Speaker 1: to put him. You're gonna have to put the opposing 558 00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:48,320 Speaker 1: quarterback under the rest. Now, great, that's a good offensive line. 559 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 1: The big right tackle he got nicked, came out. But 560 00:25:53,560 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 1: you see when the rubber needed to meet the roll 561 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: on that fourth down, he brought his ass back in 562 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 1: the game because Lane Johnson, because that's how much it 563 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,719 Speaker 1: means to it. But this this Green this Green Bay 564 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: Packers team. Man, they got to do some soul searching 565 00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:09,359 Speaker 1: because the Lions, Hey, hold on, they got they played 566 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,760 Speaker 1: the Lions on Thanksgiving, don't they. I think that's the 567 00:26:11,840 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Day game? 568 00:26:13,119 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 3: I believe. So, yes, three games that the. 569 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:19,880 Speaker 1: Packers, Packers, they got at Giants, they got at the Vikings, 570 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,119 Speaker 1: at home at Lions on Thanksgiving. 571 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:27,879 Speaker 4: Hey, and just so you know, they got the Bearers twice. 572 00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 4: The barriers ain't no easy winning. 573 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,920 Speaker 3: Oh no, no, no, no, no no. 574 00:26:34,000 --> 00:26:35,120 Speaker 4: And you go to Denver. 575 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:38,639 Speaker 3: Where they're gonna they gonna be, they gonna be. 576 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: You see that pass rush? Who you think got a 577 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,879 Speaker 1: better pass rush? U should eat us? Are the Eagles? 578 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:46,720 Speaker 4: I mean with you? 579 00:26:46,920 --> 00:26:50,639 Speaker 3: You know, you know the Broncos pass rushes exactly? 580 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 2: Hey about forget the pass rush, defense, defense as a 581 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,000 Speaker 2: whole and on all they got. 582 00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:01,000 Speaker 4: The rated the game and the Vikings aginion. 583 00:27:02,280 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: The Eagles remaining schedule Lions at home at Cowboys, Bears 584 00:27:06,840 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 1: at home at Chargers, Raiders at home at Commanders at Bills. 585 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,000 Speaker 1: Oh Joe, we talked about this last night. We didn't 586 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: see it coming so soon, but the Giants head coach 587 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: Brian Dayball has been relieved of his duties after blowing 588 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: another double digit lead Sunday in Chicago. Giants co owner 589 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:32,400 Speaker 1: John Mara and Steve Tisch said today, the past few 590 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: seasons have been nothing short of disappointing, and we have 591 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 1: not met our expectation for this franchise. We understand the 592 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:41,160 Speaker 1: frustration of our fans, and we will work to deliver 593 00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:46,040 Speaker 1: significant improved product. Assistant coach Offensive coordinator Mike Kafka will 594 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: serve as the Giants enem head coach. Day Ball twenty 595 00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:52,800 Speaker 1: forty and one. As Giants head coach, his three thirty 596 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:59,919 Speaker 1: six winning percentage puts him behind Ben Ben MCADOUDEO he had, 597 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: but you cheesecake factory, that big menu he had and 598 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: Ray Perkins Uh fired two of UH fired two of 599 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: the three head coach coordinators and flip flop play calling 600 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: with others replaced five or nine position coach started seven 601 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: different quarterbacks, had a renting record with none of them. 602 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: He's fired as the Giants because he didn't win. This 603 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: really is really that simple, No owners, John Marren, Steve 604 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:29,840 Speaker 1: Tish you fail. How's the general manager still there because 605 00:28:29,880 --> 00:28:34,119 Speaker 1: he hired him? How's he still there? Daniel Jones is gone? 606 00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: Say Kwan Barkley is gone. He drafted Evan Neil so yes, 607 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 1: So you think you're gonna get an improved product when 608 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: when the general manager, the guy that's making all the decisions, 609 00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: he's still there. I'm not saying Brian dave Balls should 610 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: or should not have been fired. That's we can we'll 611 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: discuss that a minute. But I'm trying to figure out 612 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 1: how saw shown has been able to keep his damn job. 613 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 2: Hey, And honestly, regards of what coach comes in there, 614 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,960 Speaker 2: they're probably gonna get fired. They've gone through multiple coaches. Yeah, 615 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:15,160 Speaker 2: they've gone through They've been going through multiple coaches, and 616 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 2: for for Brian da've All to get fired, it's kind 617 00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 2: of somewhat understandable. He's he's had leading games and multiple 618 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 2: games this season. He had leading games early in the 619 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:30,320 Speaker 2: game and they lost on the back. They lost on 620 00:29:30,360 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 2: the back game. It's about bad game that they should 621 00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 2: have continued to be able to have some type of 622 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: success after having the leads they've had, and they squand 623 00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 2: did every everyone. 624 00:29:40,440 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 3: You mean, you didn't win not one of those. 625 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 1: I think they had leads going into the fourth quarter, right, yes, 626 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,120 Speaker 1: I mean they had a twenty six eight, twenty six 627 00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:49,680 Speaker 1: nine lead over the Broncos. 628 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 4: They had a twenty ten lead over the Bears. 629 00:29:57,320 --> 00:29:59,440 Speaker 1: They had to lead with the Cowboys with like fourteen 630 00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: second The game comes on a big, big field goal 631 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:04,320 Speaker 1: and they end up winning in an overtime. 632 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, oh here it is. Week two. 633 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: They led thirteen three, lost forty to thirty seven. At 634 00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: the Saints, they led fourteen to three, lost twenty six 635 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,920 Speaker 1: fourteen the Broncos. They led twenty six to eight, lost 636 00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 1: thirty three thirty two with the Bears, and they led. 637 00:30:21,800 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 4: Twenty to ten, lost twenty four to twenty. 638 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:30,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, and one thing about it, we always say coaches coaches, coaches, coaches, 639 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 2: coaches coach. You could have one hundred coaches, one hundred 640 00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 2: different coaches coming there, and all one hundred are gonna 641 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:35,560 Speaker 2: get fired. 642 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, all one hundred are gonna get fired. 643 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: And listen, some accountability has to be put on put 644 00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,040 Speaker 2: on the players as well, you know, but obviously the 645 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 2: coaching staff too. 646 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 3: And the one person who is se overseas all that 647 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 3: is Brian. So at this point it was time. 648 00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,160 Speaker 1: No, Brian, don't coach the team. He ain't got no say. 649 00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: He probably didn't have any say over the final fifty three. 650 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,720 Speaker 1: He probably had no say in free agency, He probably 651 00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 1: had no say in the Dragon. He happy to have 652 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: a job. 653 00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 4: Hold on. 654 00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 3: So it sounds like somebody they running shover there like 655 00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 3: like like that, like that team they got. 656 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, that's why I laughed when Jerry told 657 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: about he thought about how and Sean Payton, Man, you 658 00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 1: actually think Sean Payton's gonna come in there and the 659 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: only thing he's gonna be a the coach. He ain't 660 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:22,160 Speaker 1: gonna have no sale on the final fifty three. He's 661 00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:23,920 Speaker 1: not gonna have any saye over the draft. He's not 662 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: gonna have any sale free agency. He's just gonna stand 663 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:29,320 Speaker 1: there coach, and then when things go wrong, they gonna 664 00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: blame him, just like all. 665 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:32,160 Speaker 4: The coaches he fired. 666 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,120 Speaker 1: How many coaches that he had since he fired Jimmy 667 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,240 Speaker 1: Uh who took up at the gym with it? 668 00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:39,120 Speaker 4: He had who's that? Dave Campo? 669 00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:43,160 Speaker 1: He had Dave Campo, He had a Chan Galen who 670 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: was my old position coach. He had Wade Filmer, Jason Garrett, uh, 671 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:55,600 Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy. Now he's probably had more than that right 672 00:31:57,600 --> 00:32:01,200 Speaker 1: until damn. You know, hey, John, May you know what 673 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: I mean? You know, when you have a lot to 674 00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760 Speaker 1: say about what the fans, what the fans was saying, 675 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: because you was reading all their mail when they was 676 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 1: calling in and talking about camp and all that. You 677 00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,440 Speaker 1: read the mail. Let's read some of the mail with 678 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: what they said about you. See if they're happy with 679 00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 1: you and what you've been able to do with this franchise. Yeah, 680 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,920 Speaker 1: because y'all, y'all look y'all they have been close since 681 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: y'all got rid of it, says Eli retired your your 682 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: bungle dad. Eli had all those consecutive starts. Then you 683 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: start Geno and then you start Eli gehning after you 684 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: to break the man streak. 685 00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 3: And they did that the you know, you know, you 686 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 3: know what they don't Bart Barry. 687 00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:42,760 Speaker 1: Swift Swisser came after Jimmy, So it's Baron Swifzer. Then 688 00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,360 Speaker 1: I think it was Parcels Campbell. Oh they had ten 689 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:51,560 Speaker 1: coach Okay, so Jimmy Johnson, Barry Swizzer, Chan Gaily, Dave Campbo, 690 00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:56,920 Speaker 1: Bill par Sells, Wade Phillips, Jason Garrett, Mike McCarthy, Brian shot. 691 00:32:58,680 --> 00:32:58,840 Speaker 4: Uh. 692 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,080 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson had a five fifty five fifty winning percentage, 693 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: Barrets Twists had sixty twenty five. Chan Gaily was eighteen 694 00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: and fourteen, Dave Campo was fifteen and thirty three fifteen 695 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,920 Speaker 1: to thirty three, Bill Parcells was thirty four and thirty. 696 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: Waye Fellis was thirty four and twenty two. Jason Garrett 697 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,480 Speaker 1: was eighty five and sixty seven, Mike McCarthy was forty 698 00:33:27,560 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 1: nine and thirty five, and Brian Schottenheimer right now is 699 00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: three five and one. 700 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 4: No, but no. 701 00:33:37,200 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 1: But what we're saying is is that ownership plays a 702 00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: large part in the success of a team. 703 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,080 Speaker 2: I'm glad you just said that. Look at all the 704 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,760 Speaker 2: teams that consistently win the Chiefs, Look at the chief 705 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 2: Look at the Ravens, Look at the Patriots. Yep, the Ravens. Well, 706 00:33:57,840 --> 00:33:59,720 Speaker 2: obviously I'm gonna throw the package in there, because they're 707 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 2: winning organization, not actually not actually no getting Lombardi trophies, 708 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 2: but always being, always being in contention. 709 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 3: Always being in contenttion. 710 00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,279 Speaker 2: And another thing, if one thing that can overcome bad 711 00:34:13,320 --> 00:34:15,319 Speaker 2: ownership is a great quarterback. 712 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:16,680 Speaker 4: When you got to pick him, and sometimes they'll mess 713 00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 4: that up. 714 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:21,520 Speaker 2: Hey, yeah, that too, but having it, having a great 715 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: having an elite quarterback, and overcome some of the bad 716 00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,480 Speaker 2: decision making that happens all the way up. 717 00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,080 Speaker 1: I think the problem that coach dabar ran into Ojo 718 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: is that he realized early on the only guy that 719 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,120 Speaker 1: can save my job is the quarterback that we drift 720 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 1: h in the first round. But in the process of 721 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: doing that, he put him in harm's weight, because Ojo, 722 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,120 Speaker 1: if I'm drowning, I don't give a damn by driving 723 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: you to save myself, I'm I'm trying to keep my 724 00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,560 Speaker 1: head above water. So if that means you got to 725 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,359 Speaker 1: go down, I got to stand on your shoulders so big. 726 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 3: And that's what he did. 727 00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: He put this kid in harm's way because he's trying 728 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:00,759 Speaker 1: to save his job. At the end of the today, Yeah, 729 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: I drafted him. 730 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:04,680 Speaker 4: Hell I want to coach him mm hm. 731 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 1: And so in the process of putting him in the 732 00:35:07,560 --> 00:35:11,600 Speaker 1: arms way, he subjected him to some hips Jackson Dart 733 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:13,239 Speaker 1: and I said this, And now I was early on 734 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 1: man the chat. They always want to let somebody live. Now, 735 00:35:17,040 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: you got your guy in the blue tent damn near 736 00:35:19,120 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 1: every game because you. 737 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 4: Want to let him live. You like that fire. I 738 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,760 Speaker 4: want my quarterback to have the energy. 739 00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 1: Okay, now look at your quarterback, y'all still like that 740 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 1: Giants player, because you had a lot to say. 741 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 4: I said, you can't run like that. You can't. 742 00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,719 Speaker 1: You can't have your quarterback being susceptible to those kind 743 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,120 Speaker 1: of hits. 744 00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 4: That's why they're protecting his ass in the pocket. Once 745 00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:43,840 Speaker 4: he leave the pocket, t if on him. He's a 746 00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 4: running back. Now look at him. But y'all had a 747 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: lot to say if we ain't had that kind of 748 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,440 Speaker 4: energy in a long time, and you might not have 749 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:51,879 Speaker 4: it again. 750 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,759 Speaker 2: Hey listen honestly too. And as a as a fan 751 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,040 Speaker 2: of the game, well, watching Jackson Dart once he came 752 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: in that Yes, absolutely be smart you do now that comes, 753 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,080 Speaker 2: that comes on him and that gonna come. He's gonna 754 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 2: get that with experience and understanding. You got to pick 755 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 2: and choose your battles. And when you picks me better, 756 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: you got to pick them wide. 757 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,839 Speaker 1: Well. I hope they not conscend into it because big 758 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: damn is gonna knock tomorrows out of it. 759 00:36:17,520 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, you got you gotta make business decisions. 760 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 2: You got them make business decisions when you got that 761 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 2: ball in hands and you cross that threshold and you 762 00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:26,440 Speaker 2: become a runner. 763 00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,319 Speaker 3: Man, Aden, Boys is not playing with you out there. Man, 764 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,360 Speaker 3: this is not college. 765 00:36:30,800 --> 00:36:32,400 Speaker 4: The grown men. 766 00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:35,279 Speaker 1: They're trying to break you because that's the opportunity because 767 00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:36,960 Speaker 1: they can't hit your ass in the pocket like they 768 00:36:37,040 --> 00:36:39,319 Speaker 1: want to. But what they can do is t off 769 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:42,239 Speaker 1: on your ass when you're out of the pocket. But 770 00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,759 Speaker 1: they give you something called a protection where you can 771 00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,759 Speaker 1: slide and they can't touch it. Now you try to 772 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,920 Speaker 1: be a hero. And I get all that. You you 773 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,960 Speaker 1: get up and get the five, get the first down, 774 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 1: and you do all this and you get the crowd 775 00:36:55,040 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: and all that. Okay, Okay, billy bad ass, I've seen it. 776 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: I know what they're gonna do. Yeah, Quarterbacks are not 777 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,719 Speaker 1: used to taking hits like that. They're not built to 778 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,640 Speaker 1: take hits like that. So why would you subject yourself 779 00:37:14,920 --> 00:37:16,880 Speaker 1: to taking that kind of punishment? Oh, Joe, You're not 780 00:37:16,960 --> 00:37:18,200 Speaker 1: gonna take that kind of punishment. 781 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:19,000 Speaker 4: Hold on. 782 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:20,880 Speaker 2: And it's a funny thing about it. And some of 783 00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:24,120 Speaker 2: the play call it ain't helping. No, some of the 784 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:30,560 Speaker 2: play calling. I'm trying to save my damn self. So 785 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,760 Speaker 2: if you drive in the process, so big. 786 00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:33,120 Speaker 4: On, Joe. 787 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, as long as you save my ass. 788 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,480 Speaker 4: Why do you think he calling those flames? O Joe? 789 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 1: And and I get it, I get it, But Jackson 790 00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:45,920 Speaker 1: dark needs to be smarter and they need to put 791 00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:46,719 Speaker 1: an emphasis on it. 792 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,879 Speaker 4: Also, Hey Son, get down, you get the first down. 793 00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:53,600 Speaker 4: I get it. It's it's Kyle. Crowd gets energized with 794 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:57,399 Speaker 4: the crowd to get you fed up, get. 795 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,440 Speaker 3: You, They get you trying to do trying to do it, 796 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:00,879 Speaker 3: trying to do what they want. 797 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're you're exactly right. Let me ask you a question, 798 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: don't Joe, who you think will be a good fit? 799 00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: Who do you think will be a good fit for 800 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:09,000 Speaker 1: the Giants? 801 00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:12,279 Speaker 4: No? 802 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 1: M hm okay, I see how much money they take 803 00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: from your New York you're back? Oh one point five me? 804 00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 4: You bring home seven money forty seven thousand. 805 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, you're right. 806 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,920 Speaker 1: Let me can I can I coach from Vegas? I 807 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,560 Speaker 1: do have all about meeting from Zoom. 808 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 4: I'm trying. 809 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of a collegiate coach that would 810 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,880 Speaker 2: resonate very well with grown men that are in the 811 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 2: inner hell. 812 00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:44,200 Speaker 3: Uh brother, Lane Kiffin, Lane, you like John Gruden? 813 00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:44,440 Speaker 4: Yeah? 814 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:50,560 Speaker 2: Oh, Lane Kiffing and John Gruden. That's that's the only 815 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,439 Speaker 2: two I can think of off the top of my head. 816 00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,839 Speaker 4: Mike McCarthy, I heard Mike McCarthy ain't thrown around? What about? 817 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 4: What about? 818 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:57,560 Speaker 2: Uh? 819 00:38:59,480 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: Uh? 820 00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:00,399 Speaker 3: Hey? 821 00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:03,759 Speaker 2: For for that city though, that city, that city needed 822 00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 2: a coach like a Lane kiff and and John Crew. 823 00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:11,439 Speaker 2: And that's a little bit fiery, you know, a little 824 00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:13,400 Speaker 2: bit has has a little personality to him. 825 00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 4: For Washington. 826 00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:27,280 Speaker 1: He was the head coach in uh in Arizona, Cliff Kingsbury. 827 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,680 Speaker 1: What about Cliff Kingsbury. Now, he normally works really well 828 00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,279 Speaker 1: with mobile, athletic quarterbacks. We saw again with Kyle we 829 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,360 Speaker 1: saw what he did with what he's done for Jalen 830 00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:42,279 Speaker 1: Jane Daniels. But would he worked with the Jackson dark 831 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,719 Speaker 1: guy that's mobile, not quite as athletic as Daniels and 832 00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 1: and and Kyler. 833 00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 4: But that might that a. 834 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 1: Well, I mean, the thing is it might be a 835 00:39:58,239 --> 00:40:01,120 Speaker 1: part of I mean, u the question is his thing 836 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:04,840 Speaker 1: is they threw it out because you know, the commissioner 837 00:40:04,880 --> 00:40:06,640 Speaker 1: wanted to hear it like, no, you're not finna do that. 838 00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,719 Speaker 1: You're not finna be the arbitrate the man soon you 839 00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:11,759 Speaker 1: and you hear your own no hell now. So the 840 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: question is with the NFL, how's that gonna play out? 841 00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:18,600 Speaker 1: Because this thing is going to court. So do they 842 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,320 Speaker 1: get a settlement and a part of the settlement he 843 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: can come back and coach or is it a situation 844 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,359 Speaker 1: where you we're gonna give you money and you you done. 845 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,120 Speaker 1: You can cover the league, but you're not gonna coach 846 00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 1: in the league. 847 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:31,600 Speaker 4: I like it. 848 00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:34,600 Speaker 2: I like the I like the John Gruden rote John 849 00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 2: Gruden and obviously Lane Kevin who coaching in college? 850 00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,080 Speaker 1: I think, did you just not hear what I said? 851 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:43,080 Speaker 1: He has a pending lawsuit against the NFL. 852 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: Uh. Let me let me tell you. 853 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:49,759 Speaker 3: There's certain there's certain rules that have been regardless of 854 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:52,480 Speaker 3: stuff like that going on. They can make it happen. 855 00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:54,920 Speaker 1: If the NFL says we're gonna offer you a settlement, 856 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,880 Speaker 1: but you cannot coach in the NFL. 857 00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,320 Speaker 2: Oh okay, well hell you know who else had depending 858 00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 2: that hasn't had a lawsuit against the NFL and it's 859 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 2: still coaching. 860 00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:05,880 Speaker 4: Brian Florid. 861 00:41:06,040 --> 00:41:09,760 Speaker 3: Yeah over there, Yeah, yeah, he's coaching. 862 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:15,120 Speaker 4: Is he a head coach? Okay? 863 00:41:15,360 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 1: Now the question is he's had good defenses? You think 864 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,719 Speaker 1: he's gonna get a job with that lawsuit? Who's gonna hire? 865 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,880 Speaker 1: Because you do realize if he sue the league, who 866 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:25,560 Speaker 1: is he suing? 867 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:28,359 Speaker 4: Suing? What are those owners all? 868 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:29,080 Speaker 3: The one of the owners? 869 00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, so it's gonna be a very interesting situation to 870 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:37,440 Speaker 1: see how this plays out. It's kind of like, oh, Joe, 871 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,319 Speaker 1: I got a lawsuit to get you, but I want 872 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,479 Speaker 1: my job back. Nah, you go ahead and take this money, 873 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 1: go ahead on you ain't getting no job back. 874 00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:49,359 Speaker 2: Hey, But honestly knowing, knowing, knowing how the NFL works, 875 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 2: understanding the ecosystem that they do have, that that that 876 00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 2: brotherhood they have. 877 00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:55,400 Speaker 3: Amongst each other. 878 00:41:56,120 --> 00:41:59,799 Speaker 2: I could still see, you know, things working itself out 879 00:42:00,040 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: in ways we won't be able to explain. 880 00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:05,560 Speaker 1: Well, if the lawsuit goes away, it'll be explained. But 881 00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: it's just hard for me to see a scenario. Oh, 882 00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 1: tere this man dot he wants sixty He wont one 883 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: hundred million. They said, you ruined my reputation by leaking 884 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:17,680 Speaker 1: this stuff, right, and you cost me sixty million dollars. 885 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:20,320 Speaker 4: Sixty seventy million dollars that was left on my contract? 886 00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 3: Oh all that was aw that's off the tape. 887 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,359 Speaker 4: He signed a ten year, one hundred million dollar deal. 888 00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 3: A hundred million dollar deal. Yeah, I remember that, but 889 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:30,080 Speaker 3: I thought he was still getting paid. 890 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:35,440 Speaker 4: For You don't get it. They bought they bought anything. 891 00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:40,520 Speaker 1: Is Mark Davis didn't want to He said he didn't 892 00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: want to, said the NFL. 893 00:42:41,960 --> 00:42:44,160 Speaker 3: Forced him to force him to do it. 894 00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:49,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. Uh, who else? 895 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 1: I hear people talk about Clint Kubiak, the offensive the 896 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:58,800 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator could get Yeah, he was the offensive coordinator 897 00:42:59,280 --> 00:43:05,960 Speaker 1: and Minnesota last year with who was his quarterback in Minnesota? Sam, 898 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:09,440 Speaker 1: he's the offensive coordinating in Seattle. Who's his quarterback? 899 00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:13,440 Speaker 3: Oh, Sam Donald, It's funny. It's funny how that work too. 900 00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 4: Ain't going to get some strong consideration? 901 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:16,799 Speaker 3: Mm hmm. 902 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:20,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, coach, Hey, Clint, let me get let me let 903 00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 4: me get a job. 904 00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:24,839 Speaker 2: Do you really you have to understand also, Clint has 905 00:43:24,840 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 2: to look at the landscape of the New York Giants. 906 00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:28,759 Speaker 2: Understand what you're working with, Understand what you had. When 907 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 2: he was out there in Minnesota, it made things easy, 908 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 2: you know, understand and understand the weapons you have around you. 909 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 3: Now that you are over there and god Damnattle, Seattle. 910 00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:42,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, now do you do you want to come and 911 00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: and and start all over in New York? You do 912 00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 2: have Jackson Dart who was very exciting. Scatterbole would be 913 00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:51,800 Speaker 2: back next year. Malik neighbors but he she should be. 914 00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:53,439 Speaker 2: He should be fine by the start of the season. 915 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 4: On Malik, Yeah, he should be. He definitely should be. 916 00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 1: But here's the thing to yo, oh Joe, that's still 917 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:08,040 Speaker 1: a gold standard franchise. And my first head coaching job 918 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: is gonna be with the New York Giants. 919 00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:10,960 Speaker 3: Who turns that down. 920 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:13,640 Speaker 4: No, you just about it. 921 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: You just saw. What's the guy that was at Philly 922 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:25,960 Speaker 1: last year? Yeah, he was at He was at Dallas 923 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:31,040 Speaker 1: OC for a long time. Kellen Moore came, Oh Joe, 924 00:44:31,360 --> 00:44:32,520 Speaker 1: he took New Orleans. 925 00:44:33,800 --> 00:44:35,279 Speaker 4: He took the New Orleans job. 926 00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:38,279 Speaker 1: I give it a choice, take New Orleans or you're 927 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:46,239 Speaker 1: taking the Giants. The Lions meeting the Commanders forty four 928 00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: to twenty two. Dan Campbell resumed took over pay play 929 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:51,879 Speaker 1: calling duties from first year off has the coordinator John 930 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:55,160 Speaker 1: Morton this past week and it ignited it dominant when 931 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,480 Speaker 1: Campbell said he met with Morton for an honest conversation 932 00:44:58,840 --> 00:45:02,040 Speaker 1: to discuss some changes. Last Monday, a day after stunning 933 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: Home lost to the Minnesota Vikings, things looked a lot 934 00:45:04,719 --> 00:45:07,800 Speaker 1: different on the Fieldow Show. Detroit racked up a season 935 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,080 Speaker 1: high two hundred and twenty six yards, rushing five hundred 936 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:15,320 Speaker 1: and forty six yards total. Jamison Williams benefited from the change. 937 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:18,240 Speaker 1: He had six catches for a buck nineteen and a touchdown. 938 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: It's the second time that he's a clipped one hundred 939 00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: yards this year. The first time came in Week two 940 00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:25,800 Speaker 1: against the Barrigs, in which he had one hundred and 941 00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:32,839 Speaker 1: eight not so pretty in this ball game. Frustration set 942 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:37,520 Speaker 1: in on Derondame, who punched Arman Ross Saint Brown Pain 943 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 1: was ejected. I can see a potential one to two 944 00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 1: game suspension coming. 945 00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,760 Speaker 4: Yeah, easy, easy. 946 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,960 Speaker 1: This is not the first time because there was a 947 00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,920 Speaker 1: situation that he got into it with a teammate. Remember 948 00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,920 Speaker 1: he got into it with a pieced up on the 949 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:54,919 Speaker 1: side of the D tackle. 950 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 3: I remember that. I remember that. I remember that. 951 00:45:56,640 --> 00:46:00,319 Speaker 1: Yes, yes, but the NFL is not gonna take into 952 00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:05,239 Speaker 1: this I could. I'm saying one to two games, two games. 953 00:46:05,320 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: On the high end, he's getting a minimum of at 954 00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,279 Speaker 1: least one game. 955 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 3: I say, I say one game. I say one game. 956 00:46:10,800 --> 00:46:12,800 Speaker 2: If it is too it is because he's a repeat 957 00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 2: offender in general and just just having issues like this. 958 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:19,560 Speaker 2: You know on the field that they gonna be all right, obviously, 959 00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:22,120 Speaker 2: frustrate Frustration said, and I'm not sure what aman Ros 960 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 2: said to him, but it was enough to piss him off. 961 00:46:24,760 --> 00:46:26,360 Speaker 3: It was it was enough to piss off. 962 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:32,960 Speaker 1: Ken Loss said arm and Rob punched them first. What 963 00:46:33,200 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 1: receiver you know, O, Joe, go punch a D tackle me. 964 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:39,960 Speaker 4: Me. 965 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,680 Speaker 3: I' whoped, I don't whooped? On on a few people. 966 00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:44,640 Speaker 2: I had a fight with Sam Adams in the locker 967 00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:47,000 Speaker 2: room back in Cincinnati when he's with us. 968 00:46:49,160 --> 00:46:50,440 Speaker 3: Hey, hey, listen to me. 969 00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 4: How many Let me make you question. How many d 970 00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,960 Speaker 4: tackles on the football field did you put on the field. 971 00:46:55,800 --> 00:46:57,040 Speaker 3: Oh no, I ain't do it on the field. I 972 00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:58,520 Speaker 3: did all my fighting in the locker room. 973 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, so pay was rejected. 974 00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: Jared Goff twenty five three three, twenty three touchdowns, no intercession. 975 00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: Jamir Gills fifteen carries one forty two two tubs. Montgomery 976 00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,640 Speaker 1: fifteen fifteen carries seventy one yards, thirty three rush attempts 977 00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:20,280 Speaker 1: two twenty six thirty three pass attempts three to twenty. 978 00:47:21,120 --> 00:47:24,360 Speaker 1: Arm and Ross Saint Broad Nos j Mo six catches 979 00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,640 Speaker 1: a buck nineteen one touchdown. Arm and Ross Saint Bron 980 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:30,040 Speaker 1: had five for fifty eight have a touchdown. Sam la 981 00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 1: Porter had five for fifty three. Raymond had four for 982 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:36,120 Speaker 1: forty nine. Marioda was sixteen or twenty two to two 983 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:37,440 Speaker 1: thirteen two touchdowns. 984 00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:39,839 Speaker 4: Uh, they didn't run the ball particularly well at all 985 00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 4: that that. 986 00:47:43,080 --> 00:47:47,920 Speaker 3: Uh, listen in order for the command to even have 987 00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:48,279 Speaker 3: a chance. 988 00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120 Speaker 2: Honestly, I'm just gonna be honest with you, the person 989 00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,000 Speaker 2: that gives him their best chance to win. Mario is 990 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,920 Speaker 2: a good he's a good quarterback. He's a deasy quarterback. 991 00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:58,360 Speaker 2: He's a tier He's a Tier two borderline, Tier three quarterback. 992 00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,319 Speaker 2: In order for the Commanders to have a chance playing 993 00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,520 Speaker 2: against a team like the Lions that can score well 994 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,840 Speaker 2: and put up crazy amount of points, you got to 995 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:06,920 Speaker 2: be able to match that in some way shape form 996 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:08,680 Speaker 2: of fast. You have to be able to match their 997 00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 2: output offensively. And if Jane Damis is not playing, it's 998 00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:15,080 Speaker 2: slimming and none unless your defense. Your defense got to 999 00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,040 Speaker 2: play all out world. They got to play out World. 1000 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: The goddamn Lions had five hundred and forty six goddamn 1001 00:48:19,640 --> 00:48:22,319 Speaker 2: yards of offense to day Man, five hundred and forty 1002 00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,240 Speaker 2: six yards of offense. These these are video game numbers 1003 00:48:25,320 --> 00:48:28,040 Speaker 2: in real life, and this is happening almost every week. 1004 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,320 Speaker 2: Even sometimes in their losses, they put up crazy numbers. 1005 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:33,359 Speaker 3: There was five. 1006 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,200 Speaker 1: Get them in troubles when they turn it over, I said, Joe, 1007 00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: turn it over. Remember that's how they lost the gift. 1008 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:43,440 Speaker 2: Washington right right right and zero zero turnovers day, zero 1009 00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,759 Speaker 2: turnovers ship third down. They were five or ten and 1010 00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:48,360 Speaker 2: on four down. Obviously I give I don't give a 1011 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:51,799 Speaker 2: god damn what analytics say. Forget what analytics say. Dan 1012 00:48:51,880 --> 00:48:53,759 Speaker 2: Kampbell is going foot on four down. They were three 1013 00:48:53,800 --> 00:48:56,799 Speaker 2: on four down to day Y's today. That's that's that's 1014 00:48:56,800 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 2: gonna break you back every time at the defense because 1015 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,040 Speaker 2: now you you think you're going into a game, you 1016 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:03,680 Speaker 2: want to play well, especially offense like that, you're stopping 1017 00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:06,239 Speaker 2: on three downs. Boom, You're somewhat happy because you're thinking 1018 00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,319 Speaker 2: of your mind. God damn, we can get off the field. 1019 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,640 Speaker 2: Now we got a punt. They got a punt, and 1020 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 2: here they go fourth and two, fourth and one, shoot 1021 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:14,759 Speaker 2: fourth and foe. 1022 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:16,359 Speaker 3: Sometimes they going forward. 1023 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, depending on where they are on there, definitely going 1024 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 4: for it. 1025 00:49:19,719 --> 00:49:23,960 Speaker 1: Down in distance a position on the field, it's more 1026 00:49:24,040 --> 00:49:26,359 Speaker 1: determining than down in distance. It used to be down 1027 00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 1: in distance. If it's fourth and short, oh Joe, we're 1028 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:29,160 Speaker 1: gonna go for it. 1029 00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 2: It could be fourth and four if they plus fifty fifty, 1030 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,920 Speaker 2: if plus fifty is good when I think they're a 1031 00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:38,520 Speaker 2: little bit more cautious fourth than anything further than that. 1032 00:49:38,800 --> 00:49:40,799 Speaker 2: But once they crossed that thirty yard, once they cast 1033 00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 2: that thirty yards, and yeah, Oh yeah, Hey, it's fo 1034 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:44,920 Speaker 2: down territory for them. 1035 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, anything past the thirty it's a rap. They're going forward. 1036 00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,040 Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, But they look good. I don't 1037 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 1: know how long. I don't know we've seen this before. 1038 00:49:55,520 --> 00:49:58,320 Speaker 1: He took over to play calling from an ex teammate 1039 00:49:58,360 --> 00:50:00,319 Speaker 1: of mind, Anthony Limb calling, but they were I. 1040 00:50:00,360 --> 00:50:02,759 Speaker 4: Think they had lost like all the they had lost 1041 00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:03,640 Speaker 4: a bunch of games that he. 1042 00:50:03,640 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: Took the play call it over. So I don't know 1043 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:07,920 Speaker 1: if he's going to continue to do that or at 1044 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:09,759 Speaker 1: some point in time turn it back over. But I 1045 00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 1: don't see him turning it back over when they had 1046 00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,960 Speaker 1: this kind of production and this in the rev rams 1047 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: and the Lions look like the Lions that we thought 1048 00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,200 Speaker 1: they were going to look like with this, with this 1049 00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:22,320 Speaker 1: arsen the running, the two headed master they got. Gibbs 1050 00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:26,000 Speaker 1: got speed to Burner absolutely, Montgomery run well between the tackle, 1051 00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,719 Speaker 1: he can catch the ball. They do a great healthy mix. 1052 00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,799 Speaker 1: Both guys got fifteen carriers. Nobody feels like they're being 1053 00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:32,279 Speaker 1: left out. 1054 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:32,600 Speaker 4: You know. 1055 00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:34,120 Speaker 3: You know what's funny about that when it comes to 1056 00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,280 Speaker 3: the play calling. Remember I told you when Ben Johnson, 1057 00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 3: When Ben Johnson left and we talked about what. 1058 00:50:39,120 --> 00:50:40,879 Speaker 2: The Lions still looked the same. I said, they still 1059 00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: have the same players. They still have the same players. 1060 00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,440 Speaker 2: And obviously the merry go round of who's going to 1061 00:50:45,480 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 2: call the players and who's not, I think that really 1062 00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,320 Speaker 2: doesn't matter, just about whoever's calling the players, finding a 1063 00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:52,960 Speaker 2: rhythm and putting those players in position to work. Now, 1064 00:50:53,000 --> 00:50:55,600 Speaker 2: you got to understand when the Lions do play the 1065 00:50:55,960 --> 00:50:58,920 Speaker 2: game they played where they didn't look the right, the right, 1066 00:50:59,000 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 2: the way they should all offensively or based on they 1067 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:03,799 Speaker 2: didn't look the way we're used to seeing them. Well, hell, 1068 00:51:03,880 --> 00:51:05,080 Speaker 2: the other team on the other side of the ball 1069 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,879 Speaker 2: get paid too. Uh, the team on the other side 1070 00:51:07,880 --> 00:51:08,839 Speaker 2: of the ball gets paid too. 1071 00:51:09,120 --> 00:51:11,000 Speaker 3: And you look at you look at games where the 1072 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:11,759 Speaker 3: Eagles have lost. 1073 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,440 Speaker 2: We're used to seeing them, seeing them play well, or 1074 00:51:14,520 --> 00:51:16,040 Speaker 2: say Quan hasn't been going off today. 1075 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,440 Speaker 3: Well, hell the goddamn the film is out there. Now 1076 00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,359 Speaker 3: we know what to do, we know how to stop them. 1077 00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,440 Speaker 2: So it's not like they planning against themselves. They're all 1078 00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,520 Speaker 2: playing against other people that get paid millions of dollars 1079 00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:28,640 Speaker 2: as well, that watch film, that study, that know their tendencies. 1080 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 2: So I think it's sometimes I mean, we get caught 1081 00:51:31,440 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: up in who's calling the plays where they look this 1082 00:51:33,640 --> 00:51:36,560 Speaker 2: way because Dan Campbell was called. I really don't think 1083 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:40,480 Speaker 2: it really matters much because the personnel they have offensively 1084 00:51:40,920 --> 00:51:42,560 Speaker 2: is so goddamn good. 1085 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,799 Speaker 3: It's so good they gonna just execute whatever you got 1086 00:51:45,880 --> 00:51:48,040 Speaker 3: damn call. But we used to see. 1087 00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:50,960 Speaker 1: But that's the thing though, I think putting putting that 1088 00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,880 Speaker 1: personnel in position, because that was the same personnel they 1089 00:51:54,960 --> 00:51:58,600 Speaker 1: had before they got what's the guy at New Orleans 1090 00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:03,719 Speaker 1: now calling the plays? The guy before Kellen Moore didn't 1091 00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:06,680 Speaker 1: do that with that off. Those the same players. They 1092 00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: didn't go to the Super Bowl. As a matter of fact, 1093 00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:12,759 Speaker 1: they fall to down the stretch when Shane Steichen had them. 1094 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 4: They with your super Bowl. 1095 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,880 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken has a competent quarterback. Now look at what 1096 00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:24,880 Speaker 1: they're doing. So yeah, obviously play call players matters. It's 1097 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,799 Speaker 1: still gyms and Joel's. But somebody got to put those 1098 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: gyms and Joel's because hey, everybody, everybody got the same 1099 00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,400 Speaker 1: chess piece on the board, but everybody don't know how to. 1100 00:52:34,440 --> 00:52:38,160 Speaker 3: Be And yeah, you're right by that. 1101 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,959 Speaker 2: And the funny thing this is the good thing about 1102 00:52:39,960 --> 00:52:41,600 Speaker 2: when you when it comes to your tier wind players 1103 00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:44,400 Speaker 2: at certain positions when you have those chess pieces, and 1104 00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:47,719 Speaker 2: some chess pieces are a little better than others where 1105 00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:49,520 Speaker 2: you lack when it comes to call and plays. 1106 00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:51,600 Speaker 3: The chess piece are so good they can overcome that 1107 00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:55,279 Speaker 3: that bad play calling. They can overcome that bad play calling. 1108 00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,800 Speaker 3: And depending on who the player is. 1109 00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,800 Speaker 2: Hell, it's a lot of receivers that can save a 1110 00:52:58,880 --> 00:53:02,839 Speaker 2: quarterback that throws bad balls. You know, Yeah, I mean Jack, 1111 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,400 Speaker 2: I'm trying to say it in that's in that sense. 1112 00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,359 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's still you're right, it's still it's still 1113 00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 1: the gyms and the joees. But it definitely helped when 1114 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: people can put people in position to do what they do. 1115 00:53:13,560 --> 00:53:15,840 Speaker 1: Because you look at Kellen Moore he in New Orleans, 1116 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,520 Speaker 1: how they working out for it. He ain't got he 1117 00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,000 Speaker 1: still he running the same offense that he ran in 1118 00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: New Orleans. He called it the same plays, but he 1119 00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 1: ain't got Jalen Hurts, and he don't got Sa Kwan, 1120 00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,279 Speaker 1: and he don't got Davante and he don't got a 1121 00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:33,040 Speaker 1: j So therefore it's not gonna look to say and 1122 00:53:33,120 --> 00:53:36,600 Speaker 1: that offensive line isn't the same. So with that being said, 1123 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,759 Speaker 1: you're not gonna get the same results. It's a combination, 1124 00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,759 Speaker 1: but at the end of the day, you the more 1125 00:53:41,800 --> 00:53:44,600 Speaker 1: good players you have, the better your chances are winning