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Speaker 4: We've got Heck Maharrison. We've got former Cowboys safety he
Speaker 4: is Bury Church, New he Scruggs. Okay, gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen,
Speaker 4: Let's start with.
Speaker 2: The quarterback, Dakota Rain.
Speaker 5: No is it Rain, dakotas Rain, Dakota go to ring
Speaker 5: my bad. Let me start that again, ring Dakota. Yes,
Speaker 5: It's got me a few times.
Speaker 2: I had to go through it.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 4: So when you were really good, and you don't you
Speaker 4: don't know, you don't know who he is very Church.
Speaker 2: But when you were a.
Speaker 4: Child, there was a great broadcaster named Howard Kosell. Heckman
Speaker 4: I remember because watched Monday.
Speaker 3: Night Football and when he when you were good, he
Speaker 3: called you by your full.
Speaker 2: Name, like you made it play like that's Church. He
Speaker 2: threw it in there like like you return to touchdown
Speaker 2: and Barry Michael Church. That's right.
Speaker 7: Reggie government, the whole, the whole government, you know, Reggie
Speaker 7: Jackson in his third home run, he just said, Reginald
Speaker 7: my team as Jackson.
Speaker 2: It was that kind of.
Speaker 4: We're gonna give you your You deserve full credit, the
Speaker 4: whole thing.
Speaker 2: That's how good you were. But let me ask you
Speaker 2: a question.
Speaker 5: Y'all have been in the game for a while, you know,
Speaker 5: want me to get too far off track, Who was
Speaker 5: the best what you call it play by play whatever?
Speaker 5: Like John Madden coach said, like who was that guy
Speaker 5: even to this day, who has been like the best, top, top,
Speaker 5: top notch.
Speaker 2: Who's the top guy in your opinion?
Speaker 6: I mean, Howard Cosell obviously set the stage for all
Speaker 6: of these guys because of the way that he called game.
Speaker 6: He was so descriptive when you sat down and watch,
Speaker 6: he has such a distinct voice, and I think that's
Speaker 6: the thing that for play by play guys. If if
Speaker 6: I don't see him, But I hear their voice. I
Speaker 6: know who that's That's Summer Off, that's you know that.
Speaker 6: Those are the guys that I think that resonate with me.
Speaker 5: Uh.
Speaker 6: The newer guys like the Bucks and all that that
Speaker 6: can have worked their way into being like your favorite
Speaker 6: like but no, Like when I'm watching a college game,
Speaker 6: I really want my guy. Uh, I can't even think
Speaker 6: of Guss. I'm talking about Gus brings the excitement. Gus
Speaker 6: is not one of those guys to me. And it's
Speaker 6: just my style. I don't like that all button up,
Speaker 6: you know, corporate style of announcing games. I like for
Speaker 6: you to oh your personality gives guys uh nicknames like Maserati,
Speaker 6: Marv and all that stuff. It makes the game so
Speaker 6: much more fun. But when it goes back to like
Speaker 6: those old school guys, nothing tops Howard Cosell to me,
Speaker 6: nothing at all.
Speaker 2: So Howard was an analyst.
Speaker 4: And when you talk about those play by play guys,
Speaker 4: when you talk football, you know, Pat Somemmerole comes to mind.
Speaker 4: Vince Scully did did football, Jack Buck did football?
Speaker 2: Played by play guys.
Speaker 4: Keith Jackson had did a little bit of it on
Speaker 4: Monday Night footbactually started there, then he moved over to
Speaker 4: college football. Frank Gifford came in there and did some
Speaker 4: of that. Gus Johnson today is what Heckwer talks about
Speaker 4: to me. He is the guy that brings it to you,
Speaker 4: but also brings that fan that's like, yeah, yeah, come on,
Speaker 4: come with me, Come with me. And I remember when C. D.
Speaker 4: Lamb quarter time said, Darius, you know, you know, you know,
Speaker 4: Gus will go you know, he'll take He'll take you there,
Speaker 4: He'll bring you there. But Pat summer All didn't do it,
Speaker 4: but Pat Somerraw would lead John Madden into do it.
Speaker 4: And so I think there's different types of play by
Speaker 4: plays and the way they do it Al Michaels is
Speaker 4: very good, and I think it's that great balance. So
Speaker 4: if I were a play by a play guy and
Speaker 4: I was doing it with heck Ma, I would lean
Speaker 4: back because I know where his enthusiasm is going to go.
Speaker 4: Take us over here. So what I don't want to
Speaker 4: do is have two dudes at a high pitch. I
Speaker 4: want to let him take me there, So I'm gonna
Speaker 4: lead him into that, and I think that becomes a
Speaker 4: part of his chemistry and what makes it good because
Speaker 4: you don't want two dudes right here, you want one
Speaker 4: guy to go there. So this is Emmitt Smith making
Speaker 4: a play and then John mad done. Patoo, look at
Speaker 4: him it right there. He hits him with the shoulder
Speaker 4: and he cuts something. So you let John get on
Speaker 4: a telestrader and do his thing. And Pat was so
Speaker 4: good at it that he just let and it was
Speaker 4: just watch. To me, it was like, well, I don't
Speaker 4: know about you.
Speaker 2: Heck. To me, it was like family.
Speaker 4: But the thing I loved about Pat somemraw because back
Speaker 4: in the day, man, my mom and dad would take
Speaker 4: us a church and we had the Late Black Church.
Speaker 3: That's the first quarter here from Irvy the Eagles ten
Speaker 3: and the Cowboys seven.
Speaker 2: It's the whole first joint, the whole first quarter. Bro
Speaker 2: rag Rag was always missing the first quarter.
Speaker 4: But that's how I look at the play by play
Speaker 4: guys today and just where I can't do it. I
Speaker 4: can't do any of it. I've tried it. I'm not
Speaker 4: good at it. I don't know how you're gonna be
Speaker 4: ready today. Hack me to go through play a suppos.
Speaker 4: You you know, when you're doing those high school games, man,
Speaker 4: you're depending on other people. I mean, it's it's it's
Speaker 4: a skill and a talent. I just don't have to.
Speaker 4: I don't know how you do it.
Speaker 6: Look took, one of the best up and coming play
Speaker 6: by play guys is in this buildings.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody better? Man? When he filled in for a Brads,
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, ain't nobody, Ain't nobody better?
Speaker 4: There's a skill and just North Texas, the University of
Speaker 4: North Texas produces some outstanding people. Mark Follower, great Mark Follow,
Speaker 4: who's play by play for The Mavericks on TV and
Speaker 4: one multiple Emmy Awards, and Kyle now is multiple award
Speaker 4: win So it's a great play. He went over there
Speaker 4: North Texta. I mean, this is what they do. It's
Speaker 4: one of the cradles right now. If you are thinking
Speaker 4: about going in the broadcast industry here, you can go
Speaker 4: there and go there at a good price.
Speaker 2: That's part of it.
Speaker 6: Let me tell you something, Hey, when you're paying twoitiones,
Speaker 6: you know what every college costs, right, That's what.
Speaker 2: He said so quick after the on that way mean.
Speaker 3: Boy, yes, yes, but I have people.
Speaker 4: I had to call me yesterday. I have people all
Speaker 4: the time and will ask me. You know, where should
Speaker 4: I go? And they think about Syracuse. You know, through
Speaker 4: the year, Syracuse is producing Marv Albert by cost, It's
Speaker 4: Mike Cherico. Been a lot of great broadcasters that come
Speaker 4: out of Syracuse.
Speaker 2: But have you seen the price? That's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: And so man, when I got to school, my first job,
Speaker 4: I mean three hundred dollars a week, man, that was it, Dude,
Speaker 4: I learned how to live on eighty dollars cash. I
Speaker 4: used to go beat the weekend anchor to the TV
Speaker 4: station so I could steal the coupons, so I could
Speaker 4: click them coupons because I knew Thursday was was triple
Speaker 4: coupon day.
Speaker 2: So I had my stuff ready to go. Man, had
Speaker 2: it lined up on them. Brother. I showed up for
Speaker 2: press conferences to eat UNCHI let me get some of
Speaker 2: that brood.
Speaker 4: If it was a NASCAR event, I was there because
Speaker 4: NASCAR fed you, and they fed you good.
Speaker 2: But I learned a lot of NASCAR because I wanted
Speaker 2: to eat the leftover. I love it.
Speaker 4: When my man Derreck Cope signed that sign that contract
Speaker 4: with Boat Jangles, Oh we knew both.
Speaker 2: Jags getting served by I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: Bro I stayed till the end because I was shouldn't
Speaker 4: have taken something home with me and some of that.
Speaker 5: I believe it was something. I believe it was something
Speaker 5: for Dad. I love it, man, I love it.
Speaker 4: So these jobs and tell people when you want to
Speaker 4: go to school, you want to get in this business.
Speaker 3: These jobs don't pay a lot of money. They don't
Speaker 3: pay It is a lot of grit and grind. Man,
Speaker 3: it is a lot of grit and grind. So I
Speaker 3: respect for the people to do it.
Speaker 4: But yeah, man, you go to place at North Texas
Speaker 4: and it's it's an in state tuition and you can
Speaker 4: and you got proof of people who are successful. Man,
Speaker 4: I'd say, man, go look over there. I know we
Speaker 4: wiped the look at the bright lights and where the
Speaker 4: people at. Man, But at the end of the day,
Speaker 4: you start looking and Syracuse is really good. But you
Speaker 4: look it's a private school. You look at the amount
Speaker 4: of money you're gonna spend and where you're gonna start earning.
Speaker 2: True, ROI is it there?
Speaker 8: Yea?
Speaker 3: Is it there? So yeah, man, you gotta think about it.
Speaker 3: So it's something, it's something to get into, something to
Speaker 3: get into.
Speaker 4: But Dak Prescott, Mike McCarthy spoke today. He's still seeking
Speaker 4: more opinions, still trying to have an understanding what's going on. Look,
Speaker 4: the hamstring injury, he ripped from the bone. What we
Speaker 4: saw with our guy Tyron Smith exactly. That was what
Speaker 4: training camp a couple of years ago, this two three
Speaker 4: years ago, at what that event where they brought out
Speaker 4: the fans, the fan jam thing, you know on a
Speaker 4: regular play.
Speaker 2: You didn't really understand just happened. Just kind of like that.
Speaker 4: You're like, hey, looks like a regular play, but bam,
Speaker 4: all right, hamstring off the bone And it took him
Speaker 4: basically three quarters of a year to come down.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh yeah, I don't be a laugh. I just
Speaker 5: I just think of Daddy but Gray every time. Oh man.
Speaker 5: But yeah, anyway, yeah, now it took.
Speaker 2: Him a minute.
Speaker 5: It took him a minute to get back out there
Speaker 5: and perform at the way he is. So do you
Speaker 5: see Prescott returning at any point?
Speaker 2: And is it just and ye, is it just? It's
Speaker 2: a done dollar least?
Speaker 6: I think one. You have to evaluate right away how
Speaker 6: Cooper Rush looks. And Cooper Rush has shown you that
Speaker 6: he can rattle off five six victories of five victories
Speaker 6: for sure in this in this offense, and obviously you
Speaker 6: wanted to conjure up that same magic against Philly and
Speaker 6: against these next five opponents. If he can do that,
Speaker 6: I think it gives you the confidence to say, Dak,
Speaker 6: you know, sit back. You can sit back and chill
Speaker 6: for a couple of weeks. Let's make sure. Let's make
Speaker 6: sure that that heals up. But that's only if if
Speaker 6: you're in playoff contention at all, If there's no doubt
Speaker 6: that you're not going to be there period, like you're
Speaker 6: elimined mathematically, it's not going to happen. It's not even
Speaker 6: worth talking about it because you don't want one. You
Speaker 6: don't want them to re injure it. If you've ever
Speaker 6: injured your hamstring, if you tweaked it, whatever it is,
Speaker 6: it's there. It's there, and it's always one of those
Speaker 6: things in the back of your mind that you are
Speaker 6: not going to take off and accelerate knowing that you're
Speaker 6: coming off of something like that, because now you could
Speaker 6: really you could tear it completely, you know. So Like
Speaker 6: for me, like I said, for I'm thinking about and
Speaker 6: I know the question was is that going to come back?
Speaker 6: I just think right now, for Mike McCarthy his whole
Speaker 6: playbook and everything has to be refined to be under
Speaker 6: Cooper Russia's strengths. You have to put a game plan
Speaker 6: together for him. And to me, that game plan is
Speaker 6: a quick game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you gaget it out of his hands.
Speaker 5: It's a quick game, especially with how this offensive line
Speaker 5: has looked the past couple of weeks. I mean, you
Speaker 5: got to get the ball out of Cooper Russi's hands quick.
Speaker 5: And that's what they were able to do when he
Speaker 5: took over for Dak Prescott and that stretch I believe
Speaker 5: it was two years ago when he injured him twenty
Speaker 5: two when he had was out for five games, and
Speaker 5: Cooper Rush went on that four and one streak and
Speaker 5: kept this team afloat. You know, while Dak Prescott was out,
Speaker 5: they were able to get the ball out of his
Speaker 5: hands fast. But the one thing that gives me pause,
Speaker 5: just a little bit of pause, is just you know,
Speaker 5: in that run that Cooper Rush had those you know
Speaker 5: two years ago, man, the defense.
Speaker 2: Was playing outstanding.
Speaker 5: I mean they were one of the top teams and
Speaker 5: getting after the quarterback. I mean it was just you know,
Speaker 5: sacks on top of sacks Parsons, Lawrence. Those guys were
Speaker 5: getting after the quarterback and oh, by that way, they
Speaker 5: had some type of run game. I believe that's when
Speaker 5: it was. Zeke and Pollard were both in the backfield,
Speaker 5: I believe. So at that time you had a good balance.
Speaker 5: You had Pollard being that explosive guy. You had Zeke
Speaker 5: still being able to, you know, get you three yards
Speaker 5: and a cloud of dust five yards here and there
Speaker 5: and wearing down the defense, and polar was taking off.
Speaker 5: We really start to see part of the merge in
Speaker 5: that season. So that's the only thing that gives me
Speaker 5: a little bit of pauses. That team is not the
Speaker 5: same as this team right now. You know, they're struggling offensively,
Speaker 5: especially on the offensive line, ride receivers getting not getting separation,
Speaker 5: and then in the defense, it's just you know, they're
Speaker 5: one of the worst in the National Football League right
Speaker 5: now as far as points per game, So you won't
Speaker 5: be playing with that lead like you had before.
Speaker 2: But we all understand Cooper Rushie. He's a ultimate pro.
Speaker 2: He's an ultimate bro.
Speaker 5: When his name is called, he steps up to the
Speaker 5: plate and he gets the job done. You saw that
Speaker 5: in that Atlanta game. He was able to get them
Speaker 5: yards rolling and get them in the end zone at least,
Speaker 5: even though it was a little bit too late, he
Speaker 5: was able to get this team into the end zone.
Speaker 5: So to me, he has the respect of his teammates
Speaker 5: out there. They're gonna battle for him. It's not like
Speaker 5: they're just saying, let's give up on the tape, to
Speaker 5: give up on the season, it's over with, you know.
Speaker 5: They They got respect from my man, so they're gonna
Speaker 5: play hard for him. So we'll see what they got
Speaker 5: against the Eagles.
Speaker 3: It's always dangerous to go to social media, always dangerous.
Speaker 2: But I have looked at a.
Speaker 3: Few doctors they say they're doctors on social media.
Speaker 2: Saying just saying tough.
Speaker 3: But from what I have gathered, they're talking six week's
Speaker 3: if surgery and up to ten weeks without surgery in
Speaker 3: terms of recovery time.
Speaker 4: So you just start doing the math and looking at that.
Speaker 4: You're going to kind of go what you just said, Barry,
Speaker 4: If you're in playoff contention. If yes, and we've talked
Speaker 4: about many times here on the Players Lounge, there's coming
Speaker 4: back and then it's coming back and being able to
Speaker 4: be effective. That's the challenge for Dak Prescott and depending
Speaker 4: on where they're at the season, becomes the old Ricky.
Speaker 2: Waters line for who for what? Yeah? Absolutely, so I.
Speaker 4: Think you've got to be smart what you're going to
Speaker 4: start to get into a point in time where you've
Speaker 4: got to start looking at twenty twenty five. Oh yeah,
Speaker 4: and if you're if you're out of this thing, there's
Speaker 4: no sense of bringing back your quarterback that you've invested
Speaker 4: a lot of money for. You need him ready to
Speaker 4: go for off season workouts, especially if Jerry decides he
Speaker 4: wants to have a different coaching staff these It's it's
Speaker 4: a it's a lot of context into this thing. Man,
Speaker 4: It's a lot of stuff that guy has to go
Speaker 4: into it. And we'll see, we'll see where the Cowboys
Speaker 4: are right now. I think that Dak is doing what
Speaker 4: any player should do. Go go get all the opinions
Speaker 4: you can. I mean is that when you've had injury
Speaker 4: before and they talk about second opinion, what goes into that, Well,
Speaker 4: you got to make sure you.
Speaker 5: Get you you do your due diligence and make sure
Speaker 5: you go out there and seek a second opinion because
Speaker 5: it might be different from what the you know, trading
Speaker 5: staff here I remember when I hurt my shoulder, well,
Speaker 5: you know, I did my achilles. There was no second,
Speaker 5: it was what it was. But when I hurt my
Speaker 5: shoulder and had to get my laboring surgery, you know,
Speaker 5: I postponed it a little bit. I wore the brace
Speaker 5: and I just went out there and tried to muster
Speaker 5: through it because I was in a different situation, undrafted guy,
Speaker 5: still trying to prove myself on the team. So I
Speaker 5: tried to muster through it, and I tried to go
Speaker 5: out there and get it my all. But you play
Speaker 5: with a torn laborler, Yeah, it was.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 5: It was all jack pop out of the socket each
Speaker 5: and every time I hit somebody.
Speaker 2: But I kept trying to muster.
Speaker 5: Through it because I was like, man, who knows if
Speaker 5: I'm even gonna be here next year, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying. So I'm on special teams and it it
Speaker 5: took me finally that last it was one of the
Speaker 5: last games of the season, going against the Giants. I'm
Speaker 5: in personal protection, you know, for a punt team. I'm
Speaker 5: dropping back getting my block in. As soon as I
Speaker 5: put my arm up, dude just hit my man. The
Speaker 5: whole shoulder just popped out, and it was just at
Speaker 5: that time the training stat just looked and was like that,
Speaker 5: I mean, we know you you fighting, you know you
Speaker 5: one of the dolls are trying to get trying to
Speaker 5: get fed, Bud. I mean, you get you gotta you
Speaker 5: gotta chill on this one. You gotta go ahead and
Speaker 5: get the surgery and call it a rap and that.
Speaker 2: And that's tough. Man.
Speaker 5: That was a much different situation than what that is
Speaker 5: in right now, because I was still like, man, if
Speaker 5: I go.
Speaker 2: Be here, you know what. Mentally, Yeah, it was tough.
Speaker 2: It was tough.
Speaker 5: But yeah, get as many opinions as you can, you know,
Speaker 5: because it may different and you might help you to
Speaker 5: your advantage.
Speaker 6: If I tear my lave room in twenty twenty floor,
Speaker 6: I am on the floor crying, calling nine one one
Speaker 6: with Siri. Y you know, I might be laying my shorts,
Speaker 6: might be wet. Okay, it seems like that. And I think,
Speaker 6: you know, just for all this talk about the game
Speaker 6: of football that people, you know, quit all this anyway,
Speaker 6: I'm just tripping that you would play with the Toren labram.
Speaker 6: And that's the kind of pain threshold that a lot
Speaker 6: of these guys play with You were talking about something
Speaker 6: a minute ago, man, and I was just thinking, boy,
Speaker 6: that's a lot of huge butt maybes and ifs with
Speaker 6: the defense and what they had and what they did.
Speaker 6: And that's why I think with Cooper Rush, he comes
Speaker 6: into a situation with a completely dysfunctional offense and defense
Speaker 6: and what I'm saying in the sense of being able
Speaker 6: to get stops, being able to get runs. The last
Speaker 6: time that we played Philadelphia, Ezekiel Elliott ran for eighty
Speaker 6: one yards. Tony Potter ran for forty four. So you
Speaker 6: did have that semblance of a running game to support you,
Speaker 6: and it made it where you know, play action was
Speaker 6: also accounted for. Vic Vangio is not gonna respect none
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Speaker 4: We were gonna talk about big Fangio blue threadsive coordinator,
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Speaker 3: Saying this Kelling Moore stuff.
Speaker 2: I tried to What did I tell y'all before the season.
Speaker 5: I tried to tell y'all before the season what was
Speaker 5: getting ready to happen. He struggled out in La I
Speaker 5: get y'all that he struggled out there, got bad head,
Speaker 5: coach fired and had a bad head. Coach didn't know
Speaker 5: what he was doing out there, didn't help him out.
Speaker 5: Came to Philadelphia. I said, what was gonna happen. I
Speaker 5: told you he got the weapons, he's gonna understand how
Speaker 5: to untap that potential that hurts and this offense has
Speaker 5: and he's come to the realization that, you know what,
Speaker 5: we gotta we gotta run this thing through Saquon. You know,
Speaker 5: it takes a lot for a past happy offensive coordinator
Speaker 5: to say, you know what, let me get out the way,
Speaker 5: let me just hand that thing off the Saquon Berkley
Speaker 5: and he's doing his thing. We've seen what happened with
Speaker 5: this Philadelphia Eagles the past six weeks, early on that struggle,
Speaker 5: but that was just and the you know, the Functionuey
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Speaker 2: Know, all that thing wrote. Look what's going on? Now?
Speaker 2: Just just look what's going What did you just use?
Speaker 2: The swaying right now? It's swaying right now, y'all see
Speaker 2: what he's doing doing what I did? I called us?
Speaker 2: Or what did I call it? Or what?
Speaker 8: Man?
Speaker 6: Look, I want to say this because I think you
Speaker 6: have been the one individual on this Sway show to
Speaker 6: call out Kellen, to say the Keller's office that you've
Speaker 6: been a fan of Kellen's office from the beginning the
Speaker 6: beginning from the beginning, Kellen stepped onto a sinking boat.
Speaker 6: When he went to the chargers, thank you, the boats
Speaker 6: already said sinking.
Speaker 2: All right. He stepped on that thing. Man.
Speaker 6: They might have shown him to repair, but it was already,
Speaker 6: it was already on his way down. Spec failed. He
Speaker 6: didn't know the inspection was a fail, so he didn't know.
Speaker 6: He know, how did his working not into the appraisal.
Speaker 6: They come through the home inspections. He didn't see the cracks.
Speaker 6: He did see the foundation diligence. It was I'm not
Speaker 6: it's not.
Speaker 2: Cut the bullets. Yuy okay, guys cut the bulls. Guy.
Speaker 4: Kellen Moore went out to the chargers and they were
Speaker 4: about to fire the coach, but they're like, no, no,
Speaker 4: you come save us. This dude told us that Justin
Speaker 4: Herbert was gonna be top five in m VP voting.
Speaker 4: It didn't happen. He ended up not having a season.
Speaker 4: Boy got hurt. Coach was fired and they didn't even
Speaker 4: think enough of him to make an interim coach. The
Speaker 4: ship was sunk. So this whole thing by his saving
Speaker 4: the ship, he didn't say the ship. So what do
Speaker 4: they do with Philly hey man? Coach on the hot seat.
Speaker 4: Hey man, we need you to come here and try
Speaker 4: and save us. But guess what, you know what happened?
Speaker 4: You know how they got saved? Tell you how they
Speaker 4: guys say, it's amazing what happens when you get a
Speaker 4: real player who can run the football, catch a little bit?
Speaker 2: Players help?
Speaker 4: Right, Okay, okay, some players help. What's happened to giants?
Speaker 4: They con and left town? Boy, look at that thing you.
Speaker 2: Should have hired Kelling.
Speaker 3: I will tell you Kellen Moore was fired from here
Speaker 3: and they were correct. Mike took off of what it
Speaker 3: might do.
Speaker 2: Last year. He had an amazing season last year here.
Speaker 4: What was Dak Prescott leading the league in picks? Kellen's
Speaker 4: first year away from here happened? Let the league touchdown?
Speaker 4: And then he was out there with your boy Justin Herbert.
Speaker 4: Now now look at Justin Herbert. Now look at your boy.
Speaker 4: What's Herbert doing?
Speaker 6: Now?
Speaker 2: What's he doing?
Speaker 6: Now? This year they got a defense and the head
Speaker 6: coach defense and the head defense head coach, and he
Speaker 6: running the ball.
Speaker 2: They run the ball. That crazy he took grow. They
Speaker 2: got a better offensive.
Speaker 6: Cording to hell and time the grug that's all that
Speaker 6: in that situation and for the charge of Barry. Look,
Speaker 6: Barry will do that. Barry will jump out the case.
Speaker 6: He believes in Herbert, he believes in Kellen Moore, and
Speaker 6: he don't mind voicing his opinions.
Speaker 2: But his thing he bought high and he had to
Speaker 2: sail low. It's the opposite.
Speaker 4: They're a second place team right now, and you sitting
Speaker 4: here jumping on board. You got you waving a flag
Speaker 4: on a second place team. What did we see Philadelphia last.
Speaker 2: Year ten and one? Right?
Speaker 6: And what they do like the they bottomed down with
Speaker 6: the Cowboys, they bottomed out, they bottom don.
Speaker 4: Playoff, Grand Opening, Grand clothing, So two major auditions in Philadelphia.
Speaker 4: You know how they're going to measure this thing.
Speaker 6: You gotta give but you gotta give ownership some credit
Speaker 6: to because what they did was they took Sirianni's hands
Speaker 6: off of that offense. They got rid of the oc
Speaker 6: that they had. They didn't stay the course with the
Speaker 6: guy that they had. And oh, I agree with you.
Speaker 6: What a difference to Saquon Barkley makes. I mean, it's
Speaker 6: not a premonition, it's not a light lightning bult moment.
Speaker 6: It is Saquon Barkley when you gotta run it back
Speaker 6: to jumping over people backwards, he is nine hundred and
Speaker 6: twenty five yards.
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, let me on what.
Speaker 6: We're doing right now.
Speaker 4: Education, take some notes at educating, because nobody wanted to
Speaker 4: running backs all of a sudden. I'm glad you said, couple, professor, Professor.
Speaker 4: I'm looking here at the top, right here, the top
Speaker 4: eleven running backs, the top five of them.
Speaker 2: All right, we're.
Speaker 4: Free agents in the off season, led by number one
Speaker 4: rushing the league right now, Dereck Henry, free agent number two,
Speaker 4: Say kwed Barkley, free agent number three, Josh Jacobs, free
Speaker 4: agent number ten, Tony Pollard number eleven.
Speaker 2: Just two yards behind him is JK. Dobbins.
Speaker 4: So what you saw where teams say we need some
Speaker 4: help at the running back position and it helped their team.
Speaker 2: There's one team who said, nah, we're good, we don't
Speaker 2: need it. We're going to ross and get our running back.
Speaker 2: Marshall stress for less and on Sundays you're running for less.
Speaker 2: So sounds like a team close to okay.
Speaker 4: So, so we can talk about Kellen Moore all day long.
Speaker 4: It's about players and running backs. Last year Philadelphia. They
Speaker 4: were not good and they also didn't help the quarterback.
Speaker 4: And now we're seeing it. I'm sorry you and I
Speaker 4: can call hey, go left, go right?
Speaker 2: The ball heard this is.
Speaker 5: This is wild man, because last year we talked about
Speaker 5: such a difference maker that Mike McCarthy was calling the
Speaker 5: players for this team right. Absolutely, so we ain't gonna
Speaker 5: get the same to Kellen being a difference maker.
Speaker 6: I'm saying right now that Kellen Moore saved Sirianni's jobs.
Speaker 2: He saved this. Okay about about to be leaving you,
Speaker 2: he should he should have handed it off of the
Speaker 2: year to court somewhere. That's a tough deal.
Speaker 6: But you got to give Kellen the credit for recognizing
Speaker 6: the error in his ways. He comes and he gets
Speaker 6: a running back and oh, by the way, he has
Speaker 6: iron head Hayward and quarterback.
Speaker 4: I mean still, how like a base He run that
Speaker 4: team like a baseball in line of car and man
Speaker 4: running man. I tell you the owners talking about they
Speaker 4: are collaborative up there. They collaborated, seeing the room by
Speaker 4: himself drawing up, nobody checking it.
Speaker 5: No, the first couple of weeks Kellen tried to, you know,
Speaker 5: put his print on it. We're gonna pass about jail.
Speaker 5: He wouldn't the lab. He wouldn't the lab, and say,
Speaker 5: you know what, how we're going this is how we're
Speaker 5: gonna go forward.
Speaker 2: Get about a SA one. You got it, man, you
Speaker 2: gotta get it man the lab. You know what they said,
Speaker 2: give it. Paul Brown was in the lab late at night.
Speaker 2: Give it to Jim Brown. You gotta give him what
Speaker 2: what what's the real gott of guy? Left and right?
Speaker 2: Got a guy? Do you give him the rock? And absolutely,
Speaker 2: absolutely absolutely he's giving the man the rock.
Speaker 6: Turns jump dumping off to you right there, and you
Speaker 6: see and you see how that version. And we've come
Speaker 6: to Philadelphia. The week that we played Philadelphia talked about
Speaker 6: the running game before. It's not like they haven't had it,
Speaker 6: but this is a different dynamic of a runner. Saquon
Speaker 6: looks reborn in this system. I mean every way that
Speaker 6: they use him, I'm like, damn, this can't be like
Speaker 6: from New York his state. I mean he is he
Speaker 6: is looking like, I mean, a whole nother guy in
Speaker 6: that system. Nine twenty eight right now now, not twenty five,
Speaker 6: after eight games, with the potential to be a thousand
Speaker 6: yard carrier after nine games.
Speaker 2: That's crazy.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 3: Heck, here's the other thing we got to talk about.
Speaker 3: The offensive lines between the Giants and the Eagles are
Speaker 3: drastically different.
Speaker 4: I mean, his dudes out here, you know, there was
Speaker 4: I can't remember the last Pro Bowl offensive lineman I
Speaker 4: saw with the Giants. Meanwhile, you go over here to Philadelphia, Man,
Speaker 4: you've got you've got a really good offensive line.
Speaker 2: So you've got that, You've got better receivers. I mean,
Speaker 2: so there's help out. You got to situation.
Speaker 4: So that's what Saquon is doing, is he's got in
Speaker 4: a better offense and he's got better play.
Speaker 2: It's a better organization.
Speaker 4: Okay, you were a better organization, so so that I mean,
Speaker 4: I don't think we should be surprised by that you
Speaker 4: stepped up. I mean it's like when these dudes transfer. Now, man,
Speaker 4: you could be this one little you know, you could
Speaker 4: be the mid major all of a sudden, you go
Speaker 4: do it. Go over here to Power five school, Things
Speaker 4: gonna get better for you. That's what Saqua basically did. Giants,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know, they might as well be out
Speaker 4: to youre operating Sunbelt the way they go. If you
Speaker 4: just Giants y'all, y'all watch that hard line when the
Speaker 4: owner said, I really want to y'all.
Speaker 2: Let that man get up out of it and go
Speaker 2: in the division.
Speaker 4: But that's that's like, that's why I tell you the
Speaker 4: organization's different.
Speaker 6: Man front, and they chose the wrong guy. And they
Speaker 6: I mean, hindsight, say, hindsight is twenty twenty. I'm sorry,
Speaker 6: I can't say they chose. They chose, they chose on
Speaker 6: the wrong guy. But I mean, look at the hop,
Speaker 6: the hop in Kansas City. I mean, after what just
Speaker 6: one game, It's like, damn, he can still catch. Like yeah,
Speaker 6: when you have a quarterback that can put it on
Speaker 6: you like that, you know that could you know? In
Speaker 6: between it don't matter. Man, He's he looks like a
Speaker 6: brand new version of himself. I'm just saying when I
Speaker 6: look at Saquon and this offensive line is isn't nearly
Speaker 6: as good as it used to be, you know, but
Speaker 6: still they got enough guys up there to get it done.
Speaker 6: You even go to Derrick Henry and Baltimore in the
Speaker 6: threat with Lamar Jackson, all of these things worked hand
Speaker 6: in glove together. I mean, it's ain't it really is
Speaker 6: just that you see the success of the running game
Speaker 6: in the NFL, and people may think that this is
Speaker 6: a brand new thing, but you see how teams like
Speaker 6: Green Bay, as you just mentioned Josh Jacob, the way
Speaker 6: that he's operating in Green Bay teams carry I mean,
Speaker 6: the carryover from that with play action. How it just
Speaker 6: really makes that joy. Come on, dog, just keep going
Speaker 6: down the line of all of these teams where the
Speaker 6: quarterback looks so much better with the running game, and
Speaker 6: then there's our quarterback that's I mean, that's our quarterback
Speaker 6: that hasn't been able to had a running game.
Speaker 2: So without that representation of a running game, I mean,
Speaker 2: come on, what Ken don't do that? What doing in Philadelphia?
Speaker 4: Brian Schottenheimer could do the same thing in Philadelphia, Brian
Speaker 4: shot him do the same thing.
Speaker 3: We'll take one bar Brian shot was the same thing
Speaker 3: if he was in the coordinated Eagles. Okay, he could
Speaker 3: have done it. Okay, yes, that's right.
Speaker 4: Come on, five hundred, just to go in there and
Speaker 4: doing califoarn doing right now, five hundred, coach, don't want
Speaker 4: to get the mad.
Speaker 2: Left go right. I don't want to get the maddest
Speaker 2: credit man. That's wow.
Speaker 3: Last year, last year.
Speaker 4: We saw what your boy did. Now he's sitting up here.
Speaker 4: Hey man, you're riding a great player was riding. It's
Speaker 4: like Michael was the Doug Collins in Game five against Cleveland.
Speaker 2: What play was that, Doug? That's called get the ball
Speaker 2: to Michael. Everybody out of the way. Because Andy Reid
Speaker 2: ain't doing nothing either then, right, hey man, because he.
Speaker 4: Got great player, right yeah, y, And in Philadelphia, and
Speaker 4: Andy Reid was a coach who couldn't get it done
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. All of a sudden, my homes coming to
Speaker 4: Kansas City. Now he going to the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 2: That's what happened to me.
Speaker 4: I watched Bill Belichick get fired in Cleveland, go to
Speaker 4: New England. Get Tom Brady. Now you going to the
Speaker 4: Hall of Fame. Players make a big old difference on it.
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Speaker 2: No Disney Child one year? Right? Rapper? Okay? I think
Speaker 2: so We're gonna have some thug out here next week.
Speaker 6: Next time, if it's a rapper, it'll be let's post Malone.
Speaker 6: It'll be post Malone post like post Man, but Man
Speaker 6: postwisted up on us. He did the He did the
Speaker 6: White Iris in and with country like what.
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Speaker 4: When Joe Trey Hand was a PR guy with the
Speaker 4: with the Team, he would always send out the the
Speaker 4: notes about what concerts were coming here, acts or something
Speaker 4: like that.
Speaker 3: There was always be some country I said, like, you know,
Speaker 3: we bring to a C the a m C.
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Speaker 2: tell Jerry do that.
Speaker 3: God and so some wards and town and then we
Speaker 3: give a real crowd out in here.
Speaker 2: Things will never be the same. That would be not that,
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Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 2: I'm doing like they got the slogans and the end
Speaker 2: zone right, you know, all of the off one something
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Speaker 4: Child, break them sources, t you awards, you know, none
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Speaker 4: artists want to be an artist. I had an executive
Speaker 4: producer all on the record the video in the background.
Speaker 8: Bro.
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Speaker 4: had got Drake and Kendrick Lamar and all that boy
Speaker 4: fun show up. We have some fun, bring out their
Speaker 4: little food trucks out there in front Low Loos, chicken
Speaker 4: and waffle all that day.
Speaker 2: The foot up in here.
Speaker 4: I know there's not an official Dallas Cowboys chicken and
Speaker 4: waffle spots.
Speaker 2: I know there's not.
Speaker 15: We heard it by now, I'm not gonna even google
Speaker 15: if there's a low loas chicken and waffles.
Speaker 10: It is.
Speaker 2: It is, Okay, I thought it was what you just
Speaker 2: made up on the fly right down the street this week.
Speaker 4: Okay, loads right, Greater, make greater, Maga sish five man
Speaker 4: low loans.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, I'm just saying all right.
Speaker 4: So the blueprint was first laid out by Vic Fangio
Speaker 4: and he was coaching the Denver Broncos and Vic has
Speaker 4: since moved on to now coordinate the Philadelphia Eagles. And
Speaker 4: that was Vic Fangio saying, hey, man, you know what,
Speaker 4: run the ball, and these guys started to run, and
Speaker 4: you know you could beat these dudes, basically get physical
Speaker 4: with this football team.
Speaker 3: So Vic Fangil is now bringing his Eagles here and.
Speaker 4: Yeah, man, their physical bunch. The the blueprint is going
Speaker 4: to pretty much stay the same.
Speaker 6: So yeah, what do you think about Well, I think
Speaker 6: that Vic Vangil and Mike McCarthy literally have a history together.
Speaker 6: I think Vangil was the defensive coordinator for the Bears
Speaker 6: back in the day and been.
Speaker 2: Right, and Mike used to whoop him all the time.
Speaker 2: I mean seven in a row.
Speaker 6: I believe was his record versus Vicvangiel until Evangiel came
Speaker 6: in here with the Denver Broncos and beat him when
Speaker 6: he was six and oh and gave him that loss
Speaker 6: at home. And then last year against the Dolphins, he
Speaker 6: sacked Dack four times as well. So I mean he's
Speaker 6: figured something out about that scheme, but also he's figured
Speaker 6: out how to put pressure.
Speaker 8: Uh.
Speaker 6: But don't look any further than this. His front line,
Speaker 6: jay Leen Carter, a company those guys are going to.
Speaker 6: That's that's why I was talking about the running game,
Speaker 6: and that's what I'm saying, like, even if Dak had played,
Speaker 6: you would have to have a running game, an approach
Speaker 6: to a running game in this in this game because
Speaker 6: of the kind of pressure that they're gonna put on you,
Speaker 6: and he's gonna sit those two safeties over the top
Speaker 6: and take away so many of your other things. I
Speaker 6: want to give your Toledo brother, Kenyon Mitchell, Mitchell, give
Speaker 6: your boy Kenyon Mitchell some credit because has came into that.
Speaker 2: I think he has six pbu's or something for on
Speaker 2: the season.
Speaker 6: But he looks like a really good system guy right now,
Speaker 6: you know, And I think that's all you need on
Speaker 6: the other side. Obviously you got Slaton and Big Slay, right,
Speaker 6: there are some weaknesses to be but there are some weaknesses.
Speaker 2: But that's the thing.
Speaker 6: Now, you ask yourself, can Rush find those weaknesses without
Speaker 6: a running game, without any threat of the play action?
Speaker 6: That really kind of changes things. And that's when defense
Speaker 6: is just pinning their ears back. And so I look
Speaker 6: at this game, and as much as people are talking
Speaker 6: about what you know, Cooper Rush and the success that
Speaker 6: he could potentially have, don't be surprised if you see
Speaker 6: Trey Lance. Don't don't be surprised if Trey Lance may
Speaker 6: make a showing just organically, because it may end up
Speaker 6: being that kind of game.
Speaker 4: All Right, We've got Thursday night football here, so I
Speaker 4: want to make sure we get this in. We missed
Speaker 4: Monday Night last week.
Speaker 2: Though y'all know who I would have picked already on Yeah,
Speaker 2: I told Chris.
Speaker 3: Christ mentioned that.
Speaker 2: He be saying, now Chris text nothing, We wrote it down. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: we'll see the integrity.
Speaker 4: So it's Cincinnati taking on Baltimore in Baltimore, Baltimore six
Speaker 4: and a half.
Speaker 3: Give me the Ravens twenty six to twenty one.
Speaker 8: In this.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with the Ravens. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 6: through Ravens. I'm gonna go I think Ravens. I'm going
Speaker 6: thirty one, thirty one twenty four. Oh man, Joe Joe Burrow, Yeah,
Speaker 6: Joe busy, No secondary kind of week over there in
Speaker 6: Baltimore one twenty four. You said thirty one twenty four
Speaker 6: this week, But give me Baltimore as well, talking about
Speaker 6: talking about it. I can't do that one, man, I can't,
Speaker 6: you know, Lamar Finn to go off, Dereck Henry Finn
Speaker 6: to go I'll give me twenty eight, twenty one, twenty
Speaker 6: eight twenty one, No, T Higgins, Yeah, yeah, just.
Speaker 2: I keep being been playing.
Speaker 3: It looks like this would be It looks like a
Speaker 3: job opening in Cincinnati.
Speaker 2: Zac Taylor gotta be better.
Speaker 3: But Candy, I you know your boy killing Moore may
Speaker 3: be the head coach.
Speaker 2: Hey, MVP Joe Burrow coming. Yeah, like that's the case.
Speaker 2: That's the case, man, If that's the case, get my
Speaker 2: man ready. You've been talking about loyal to the soil.
Speaker 2: This guy right here try to playing y'all before the season.
Speaker 2: Very will never leave your baby, I heard was he.
Speaker 3: Asked Daniel Jones that question about me, Sake, I made.
Speaker 2: I made that mistake. Yeah yeah, I did.
Speaker 3: Just her last year charged in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Last year didn't didn't happen.
Speaker 3: It didn't happen.
Speaker 2: They just needed a head coach.
Speaker 3: They got one now, Kellamore one.
Speaker 2: And done Llamore one and done.
Speaker 6: See what he's doing so far, man, y'all see masterful
Speaker 6: Josh Sample Sad just covered the running game.
Speaker 2: They're like, oh, you Saquon Barkle, this is this should
Speaker 2: run the ball. This is there, it's there, it's there
Speaker 2: that Sake can really run the ball. They could be
Speaker 2: doing the same thing in Indianapolis. They ain't doing it
Speaker 2: for Brian Daball did it his first year.
Speaker 3: So when Brian Dabo got to they were nine, the
Speaker 3: seventh they ran.
Speaker 4: They went to the playoffs like they was out hit
Speaker 4: destroy They went to thirteen and three Minnesota and want
Speaker 4: to play.
Speaker 2: They want to play all game. They was out there
Speaker 2: destroying team. Finished.
Speaker 4: They took they took a bad Giants team and Brian
Speaker 4: Dabo said, give it ball a Saquon bar They go
Speaker 4: out here and they gonna make the playoffs, win a
Speaker 4: playoff game on the broken see and Daniel Jones and
Speaker 4: food and anything, and he's a good quarterback.
Speaker 2: Got forty million here, that's.
Speaker 6: How that's the how.
Speaker 5: See if it was literally there was nothing else going on,
Speaker 5: but ya like A J. Brown ain't out there, Devontae
Speaker 5: Smith ain't. Now you hurt the bottle people about the
Speaker 5: likes a bit bot, but come on down like they
Speaker 5: doing that thing.
Speaker 2: Out here as well as far as like you.
Speaker 6: If you break this down into percentages, how much of
Speaker 6: the say the discovery of Saquon for Keller Moore play
Speaker 6: into that is that twenty fifty percent?
Speaker 2: Where are your on it?
Speaker 5: But we can also understand, like you just said, there's
Speaker 5: guys on the outside that make that box lighterwona bullet
Speaker 5: watching this is the top of A. J. Brown and
Speaker 5: Davanta Smith at the time, Barry, you can just saying, man,
Speaker 5: y'all you hate on.
Speaker 2: My guy, all y'all hating on your guys just after
Speaker 2: he's come in here and do what he's gonna do. Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't hear that. Okay, I don't
Speaker 2: want hear that. Young non stand that he's no coach soul,
Speaker 2: all right? He m Harrison very search of him to
Speaker 2: instruct Coach soul by the ways might be dangers, head
Speaker 2: coach of the Saved. You guys, he ain't doing nothing.
Speaker 4: Chris Bean Jazz and everybody else who has been hurd
Speaker 4: uh this players latter plays.
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