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Speaker 3: Is this on? It's on? This is for Wimby.

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Speaker 4: I haven't made a song about Wimby because I dig Wimby, but.

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Speaker 3: I don't dig you right now.

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Speaker 4: Wimby, please please, I'm begging you. Do not get into

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Speaker 4: politicking for awards.

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Speaker 3: You're too good. You don't need to do that.

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Speaker 4: Let your ability in your play speak for itself. Don't

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Speaker 4: be Lebron James telling everybody that he's the greatest of

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Speaker 4: all time and he became the goat when this happened.

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Speaker 3: Don't beat Draymond Green going around.

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Speaker 4: Trying to tell everybody he should be the Defensive Player

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Speaker 4: of the Year and all that, and thank god the

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Speaker 4: writers didn't vote for Draymond Green. But Wimby, don't do this.

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Speaker 4: I don't care what question if they ask you, And

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Speaker 4: I'm talking about they the media ask you about do

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Speaker 4: you deserve to be the MVP.

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Speaker 3: That's not my job.

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Speaker 4: My job is to play basketball at a high level

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Speaker 4: and to win and to try to win my franchise

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Speaker 4: a championship. That's what sports writers do. They're the ones

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Speaker 4: who vote for that stuff. Don't get caught up and

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Speaker 4: telling people he had the audacity, the nerve, the goal

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Speaker 4: to say they almost swept it they did to use

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Speaker 4: that term what we almost swept the thunder? What case

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Speaker 4: are you making with the term almost? You're way ain't

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Speaker 4: too talented and too young? All the stuff will come

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Speaker 4: to you. Continue doing what you're doing, Stay healthy, blockshot,

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Speaker 4: score basket from all over the place on the court.

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Speaker 4: You're starr in the making. You have a chance to

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Speaker 4: be one of the greatest whoever laced them up. Don't

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Speaker 4: be a politicker. Don't be look at me, vote for

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Speaker 4: me guy. Don't be that guy. There's no need to

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Speaker 4: do it. I don't even care if they ask you

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Speaker 4: the question whenby go watch some Michael Jordan interviews, when

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Speaker 4: they ask him time and time again, are you the goat?

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Speaker 3: His answer is that's not for me to decide.

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Speaker 4: It's not and it's not for you to decide whether

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Speaker 4: or not you're the MVP.

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Speaker 3: Guess what, you don't have a vote. Players don't have

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Speaker 4: It's from the writers and the people who watch the

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Speaker 4: game and are far more objective. Do it winby That's

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Speaker 4: my message, your public service announcement from yours truly.

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Speaker 3: Rob Park of Fox Sports Radio, Boom, do it, do it.

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Speaker 1: It's like Jerry Springer, du it when VP wm VP.

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Speaker 3: Rob, I like this, I like this. You just mentioned it.

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Speaker 1: He's a young man sitting there, new to this as

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Speaker 1: far as America, and they're asking him a question.

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Speaker 3: He answered it. Hey, you want me to answer it.

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Speaker 1: You don't want the g Gotti Schucks, go Go Buck,

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Speaker 1: go Broncos. You know you don't want the cliche answers.

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Speaker 1: He's talking, he's answering questions. He's confident, and we love it.

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Speaker 1: I told you he's emotional. He cried the other night

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Speaker 3: He cried.

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Speaker 1: And they lost in the Olympics. He was ticked off

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Speaker 1: that they lost an All Star Game. He's passionate, he's

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Speaker 3: I agree. I think time will come.

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Speaker 3: But right now he's his raw, authentic self. It's like

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Speaker 1: He's taking shots at the Oklahoma City Thunder. There was

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Speaker 3: I like this young NBA right now. I've talked about

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Speaker 1: I can kind of get what you're saying, but to me,

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Speaker 3: That's more of a historical effect.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's if you're asking me a question

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Speaker 1: If you were Adam.

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Speaker 4: Silver, blowing your own horn has nothing to do with

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Speaker 4: not your job to make a case for you. Your

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Speaker 4: play is what determines it. You just said it. You

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Speaker 4: like it. Draymond going around trying to tell everybody he

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Speaker 4: was defensive Player of the Year last year. That's what

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Speaker 4: Draymond did. That stuff is awful. It's a bad look,

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Speaker 4: and that's not what you need to do. You don't

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Speaker 4: he's better than that. Let your play determine what people

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Speaker 4: just it has nothing to do. I just I don't

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Speaker 3: I can't under that. I can't imagine.

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Speaker 4: So Aaron Judge saying I should be the MVP, or

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Speaker 1: This is why if I'm a young person in sports,

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Speaker 1: I'm asking you, what do you want from me? One

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Speaker 4: You don't need to be vain. Nobody's asking for that.

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Speaker 4: You didn't have an answer, and you know what his

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Speaker 3: I just gave it to you.

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Speaker 4: If you asked me that question, go ahead and ask

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Speaker 4: me what makes you the MVP.

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Speaker 3: That's not for me to determine.

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Speaker 4: I'm going to go out there and play as hard

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Speaker 4: I'll be voted MVP or Defensive Player of the Year.

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Speaker 3: And guess that's not for me to decide. And guess what,

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Speaker 3: and guess what.

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Speaker 1: You can have that guy and give me an Ann Edwards,

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Speaker 1: give me a winby because I have a mixture. I

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Speaker 1: Ain't a monolith. Every NBA player don't have to sound

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Speaker 3: You got a guy. You don't need to be vain.

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Speaker 1: I don't care most you talk to, most trash and

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Speaker 1: a greater part of a decade, Larry Bird talk smack

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Speaker 4: He said he was the MVP of the league. I

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Speaker 4: don't know Larry any video YouTube.

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Speaker 3: Do your thing? Who is a soccer today? Do your thing?

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Speaker 1: Larry Bird would always talk Smack, always tell the media

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding me?

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Speaker 1: You and covering league for forty years, you should know

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Speaker 1: that I've been coming guys like Shack telling you how

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Speaker 1: Domina is giving himself a nickname every other week. We

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Speaker 1: need that. Everybody is so you need? Does that mean

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Speaker 1: because I just answered it, Well, everybody's not supposed.

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Speaker 3: To be just so ghucks. Nobody said that.

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Speaker 4: Nobody say give me back, talk about my numbers are

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Speaker 4: already there. I don't need to just like, just like

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Speaker 4: Lebron when he's like, oh, this is when I became

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Speaker 4: the goat. Ain't nobody buying to that? It sounded awful

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Speaker 4: that he determined that he was the goat. Ain't nobody

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Speaker 5: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well, you know what I began to go when we

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's when I began really Oh, that's when you

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Speaker 4: nobody buys into that. You don't need to say that

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Speaker 4: about Charles Barkley talks. Mac told the media who he was.

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Speaker 3: Dude. We have a multitude of personalities. That's what makes

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Speaker 1: That's why we also watch sports. It ain't just what

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Speaker 1: We love the show. It's called entertainment. Dag it, Wimby,

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Speaker 1: do your thing, wim VP, I like it.

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Speaker 5: Hi, this is Jay. I'm the producer of the Paula

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Speaker 5: and Tony Fusco Show. Usually in these promos they asked

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Speaker 5: you to listen to the show. I'm here to ask

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Speaker 5: you please don't listen to the show. The hosts are

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Speaker 5: two absolute morons who have the dumbest takes on sports imaginable.

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Speaker 5: Don't listen to the show so it can get camps.

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Speaker 3: What the hell studio get him? Ignore that fool.

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Speaker 6: Listen to the Tony Fosco Show on the iHeartRadio app

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Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcast.

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Speaker 3: He's still moving. Let's get into this. We had to gain.

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Speaker 1: We keep talking about the game yesterday one of the matchup, folks,

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Speaker 1: we're looking for to Lakers went to Detroit.

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Speaker 3: They ended up losing.

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Speaker 1: But the bigger conversation, Rob G and Rob and I

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Speaker 1: you know the rules to win an award sixty five

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Speaker 1: game threshold. And Kay Cunningham has kind of popped this

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Speaker 1: conversation back up with his collapse lung.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's kind of a weird phrasing of

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Speaker 6: words he used there, pop this conversation with the collapse line.

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Speaker 3: But that's okay. Let me watch poetically Roger so Kate

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Speaker 3: cunning Am.

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Speaker 6: Before the injury, not only was he a dark Corse

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Speaker 6: team All NBA Pistons, the feel good story of the

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Speaker 3: Don't play anymore. They should get the MVP. No, they

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Speaker 3: It's real simple.

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Speaker 4: Three point one played appearances per team game schedule. One

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Speaker 4: Know what they for when it comes to the Erora title,

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Speaker 3: One hundred and sixty two games mean you have to pitch.

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Speaker 4: At least one hundred and sixty two innings, not one forty,

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Speaker 4: you collectively. If you're hurt, we understand a scheduled day off,

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Speaker 4: You can't play, and now you want us to dumb

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Speaker 4: This is against the idea that they would send this

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Speaker 1: You didn't come saying, hey, look, we had most of

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Speaker 1: That's when you would make sense. You'd say, all right,

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Speaker 2: to listen live.

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Speaker 1: In honor of MLB, of course, opening day tomorrow, there

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Speaker 1: was an article kind of putting two guys saving baseball,

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Speaker 1: similar to the way the NBA was had with Magic

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Speaker 1: and Bird.

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Speaker 3: That's right.

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Speaker 6: Shout out to sports Listen at MLB writer Tom Reducci,

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Speaker 6: Good dude.

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Speaker 3: The covering baseball since Moby Dick was a guppy.

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Speaker 4: Rhoda used to be at Newsday when I was at

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Speaker 4: the Daily News many many forty years or Can Make.

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Speaker 6: Facts wrote a long form piece this week in the

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Speaker 6: magazine on Aaron Judges sho Aotani, the premise of the

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Speaker 6: article being that the pair are spearheaded the new golden

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Speaker 6: era of baseball, and in it if you look at

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Speaker 6: the article, you see the pictures online. It's the first

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Speaker 6: time that both of these guys were a part of

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Speaker 6: a singular photo shoot of any sort, not a commercial,

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Speaker 6: not a TV show, anything, just those two Otani and Judge.

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Speaker 6: And it was very similar to the Converse sneaker commercial

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Speaker 6: back in the day with Larry Birdie and Maggie Johnson.

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Speaker 6: And you recall it was these two rivals, the two

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Speaker 6: Titans at the time, and they came together for one photo,

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Speaker 6: one commercial, and of course not only help grow the game,

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Speaker 6: but it's set up the rivalry moving forward that these

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Speaker 6: are the two guys you gotta watch. So forty years later,

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Speaker 6: Sports Illustrated does something similar with this photo shoot with

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Speaker 6: Judge and Otani, and Verducci says this, like bird and

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Speaker 6: Magic one on the East coast, one on the West,

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Speaker 6: gobbling up MVPs playing as Sue Jeanree style. Thanks to

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Speaker 6: their size and strength, Judge and Otani are the standard bearers,

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Speaker 6: helping to carry their sports to heights not seen in

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Speaker 6: a generation. Judging Otani, Otani and Judge. Their greatness separates

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Speaker 6: them from all their contemporaries except from one another, like

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Speaker 6: a rare conjunction of celestial bodies deep in Alyss heavens.

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Speaker 3: The wordsmith.

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Speaker 6: Only seven players have posted back to back fifty homere seasons.

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Speaker 6: Judging O'tani are the first pair to do it together,

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Speaker 6: with at least a seven war in both years. It

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Speaker 6: is baseball kiss met that their peaks should aligned like

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Speaker 6: this and raise the game by the power of two.

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Speaker 3: I think he spot on. I'm really doing it and

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Speaker 3: a lot of.

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Speaker 4: The things that work, because I think if that lottery

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Speaker 4: would have changed right and the position and bird came

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Speaker 4: to La and magic went to Boston, like it was perfect,

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Speaker 4: A great white player in Boston, a showman of a

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Speaker 4: basketball player in Thats Angeles, Hollywood, it was perfect.

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Speaker 3: The NBA was in dire straits when those guys came.

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Speaker 4: They were really I can remember listening to the radio

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Speaker 4: and Howard Cosel used to have like a five minute,

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Speaker 4: little two minute sports thing every night on the radio,

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Speaker 4: and he said that there was talk that five of

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Speaker 4: the teams were going to break away from the NBA.

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Speaker 4: That's how bad it was, Like the nickt Celtics, like

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Speaker 4: the Blue Blogs, because it was really bad drugs, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. It was really going in a

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Speaker 4: bad spot. Those two guys came and helped save that league,

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Speaker 4: and then Michael of course took it over the top.

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Speaker 4: And in this case, we had a lull in baseball.

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Speaker 4: Not only did we not like the style of playing

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Speaker 4: baseball because of the home run and a strikeout, we

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Speaker 4: lost twenty five Hall of Famers. We talk about it

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Speaker 4: all the time, Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens.

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Speaker 3: Jeter, big poppy pool halls.

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Speaker 4: Like there's a big time stars and you don't lose

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Speaker 4: twenty five Hall of Famers and your league just kind

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Speaker 4: of plots along and everything's good. There was a down

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Speaker 4: period and now you look around there's nothing but great

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Speaker 4: young players everywhere.

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Speaker 3: And now you have two guys.

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Speaker 4: Both at the most storied franchises in the sport, the

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Speaker 4: Dodgers at home of Jackie Robinson and all that the

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Speaker 4: Yankees have won twenty seven World Series championships. Then you

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Speaker 4: have New York, Los Angeles, East Coast, West Coast.

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Speaker 3: What show hey being Asian? You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: Like what that brings to the game of baseball?

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Speaker 4: Judge, he's mixed, Black, people love him everybody, you know

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Speaker 4: what I mean, Like there's somebody you could look up

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Speaker 4: and go Aaron Judge. There's a lot of things to

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Speaker 4: like between these two guys, and it does.

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Speaker 3: I think Veducci nailed this one. I literally don't have

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Speaker 3: much to add.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what makes this things great is sometimes

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Speaker 1: you feel like the thing's just a line that God

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Speaker 1: made it. He was like, I'm gonna make a perfect

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Speaker 1: point guard at six foot nine and Magic you mentioned

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Speaker 1: to go play in LA And not only that, the

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Speaker 1: key component is too those guys won six MVPs and

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Speaker 1: only separated one was Jordan kind of interrupted that four

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Speaker 1: minute between Bird and Match. So it's not only just that,

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Speaker 1: oh well, they happened to land there. They also were

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Speaker 1: great and they actually met in the NBA Finals three times,

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Speaker 1: Magic getting the best of them. But they had to meet.

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Speaker 1: We got that. It wasn't just Dodgers Yankees. They play

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Speaker 1: every now, okay whatever. No, they got in the World

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Speaker 1: Series and they actually had a matchup in the thirteen

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Speaker 1: eighty one was the last one. So that makes it

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Speaker 1: great because they could just be rival players on opposing

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Speaker 1: leagues and that being fine and cute and dandy, but

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Speaker 1: they actually had a chance to compete. And I think

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Speaker 1: even small things like Otani's you know this, you've been

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Speaker 1: around him. He's towering, He's bigger than people think. He's

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Speaker 1: six four sixty five, big guy, and he's massive six'.

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Speaker 1: Seven you got these, big towering goliath dudes with these massive.

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Speaker 1: Franchises otani does an absolute best he can at trying

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Speaker 1: to be a star In, america In america as well

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Speaker 1: as obviously a global star specifically In japan as. Well

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Speaker 1: AND i just, think And Aaron judge is doing the,

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Speaker 1: commercials you got the new balances doing, this AND i

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Speaker 1: think it's been great and the timing of it is perfect.

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Speaker 3: Too.

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Speaker 1: Rob you know, this if this were twelve years ago

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Speaker 1: when guys were, LIKE i don't want to do, COMMERCIALS

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Speaker 1: i don't want to speak. Up you, know the baseball

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Speaker 1: players they have all the you've been in a good

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Speaker 1: open in a few you've been in a gazillion.

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Speaker 3: Clubhouse says the.

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Speaker 1: Loud ya say that's. Dada and then here comes the,

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Speaker 1: Question oh, yeah we just all we play on, them

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Speaker 1: and then they're. Done they're back, loud having a good.

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Speaker 1: Time these guys are the league is starting to be

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Speaker 1: more personality. Driven you're starting to have more, fun you're

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Speaker 1: starting to have. Showmanship and then you get these two.

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Speaker 1: Guys and the last Thing i'll add to it role

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Speaker 1: because you hit on pretty much everything is. Consistency magic

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Speaker 1: And bird were good the entire. Eighties, literally they think they.

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Speaker 1: Were one of them was in the FINALS i think

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Speaker 1: nine of the ten years or, something If i'm not mistaken.

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Speaker 3: Her it was just.

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Speaker 1: Insane so you got these guys who have been consistently.

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Speaker 1: Good you sit here and talk About Aaron judges not

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Speaker 1: hitting three go, one not hitting two, ninety but giving

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Speaker 1: you fifty Homer, okay that's, good dudes batting three twenty,

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Speaker 1: three thirty three forty forty fifty sixty home. Runs and

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Speaker 1: you Got otany doing great with The. Angels then he

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Speaker 1: comes into great with The. Dodgers so that's the last

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Speaker 1: key component kind of in this this, recipe if you.

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Speaker 1: Will his last ingredient is, consistency and they've been able

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Speaker 1: to have. That so that's what makes it, awesome and

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Speaker 1: that's what makes.

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Speaker 3: It great and perfect timing for the league where when

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Speaker 3: we do our picks, later it's not crazy to want

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Speaker 3: to pick these teams, no.

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Speaker 4: Or to think that they're going to win THE mvp.

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Speaker 4: YEAR i, mean going, in somebody else has to be

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Speaker 4: and we saw Cal raley And seattle had an unbelievable,

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Speaker 4: year sixty home runs for a, catchup and he still

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Speaker 4: couldn't break.

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Speaker 3: Through like that's how. Big normally you had sixty home,

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Speaker 3: runs you're winning AN. Mvp but it did not. Happen