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Speaker 1: The following. Here's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys flowing out of

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Speaker 1: the backfield. They flowing down the sidelines. This is Hanging

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Speaker 1: with the Boys, presented by Windstuff where flavor gets its wings. Now,

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Speaker 1: your hosts, Jesse Holly, Kurt Daniels, and Nate Newton. What's

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Speaker 1: going on across the sea? He ain't not it, I

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Speaker 1: ain't fu Yeah, we don't have a live look at

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Speaker 1: the s WBC studio where your boys is in here

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Speaker 1: doing what we do today. Is high in Dallas, Texas

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Speaker 1: is a huge TIF eighty two degrees. It's beautiful outside, Fellas,

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Speaker 1: but we are here. That is the incomparable Kurt Daniel,

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Speaker 1: the three times Super Bowl champion, Nate Newton, the below

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Speaker 1: average Jesse Holly, Chris Beam is in the back holding

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Speaker 1: us down. I don't know where audio Jazz are bro

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Speaker 1: well that, but together we make Hanging with the Boys

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Speaker 1: the sports talk equivalent of Breill. People feel us when

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Speaker 1: we speak. The gang is back together again. Yes, after

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Speaker 1: being away for a while. Nate, you took a week off.

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Speaker 1: You were traveling. Kurt, you took a week off, you

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Speaker 1: were traveling. Kurt went to Lake Louisville. US that Lake

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Speaker 1: Louisville looked and was not ready to come back. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that Lake Louisville looked absolutely amazing. But we are all here.

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Speaker 1: You had a good I did. I had a decent week. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let's hurry up and get to that. Don't be trying

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Speaker 1: to go everywhere else. Man, Come on, Chris, get on

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Speaker 1: this dude. Man all right, I did I know, Chris,

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Speaker 1: because I was supposed to bring it with me. But

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Speaker 1: we finally kicked in the door. Shout out to my

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Speaker 1: Kingdom Collegiate Academy Cougars. We won the basketball one day

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Speaker 1: State championship last Thursday, UM defeating Coveted the Christian We

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Speaker 1: won in Waco. This is the first one four cases Jones,

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Speaker 1: he got you over and under who was gonna win

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Speaker 1: the championship? First got you got you got to know

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Speaker 1: we had been knocked at the door for a while.

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Speaker 1: Now we finally finally finally got through. So shout out

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Speaker 1: to coach Trey Givings, who is the head coach of

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Speaker 1: my team. Shout out to I gotta givens mine last

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Speaker 1: year is like I don't know what they're gonna do.

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Speaker 1: Nuts shout to my guy Todd Shelton. Because when I

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Speaker 1: some things and the coaches we're leaving and stuff like that,

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Speaker 1: I reached out to my guy Tosh Shelton and he said,

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Speaker 1: but I think this guy will be able to help

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Speaker 1: It's worked for us. And shot to my guy, uh,

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Speaker 1: Todd Shelton. I appreciate your brother for for the recommendation.

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Speaker 1: And it's always good to have good people that you

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Speaker 1: I can, you know, bring it to the to the table.

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Speaker 1: So why you ain't got a shirt on? You know?

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Speaker 1: Fellas like all other time I hear on this show, man,

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Speaker 1: I see you got a fatty, fatty risk. Yeah. See,

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Speaker 1: I wanted fataging thing. Everybody like, man, I bet you

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Speaker 1: took up the whole huddle I did, he said, the

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Speaker 1: I wondered as wide as everybody thought I was. You

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Speaker 1: don't go there with that. All right, let's get let's

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Speaker 1: get into this thing. Combine got the combine coming up? Well,

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Speaker 1: what's that? Faithful? You know, I know they have to

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Speaker 1: look at their position, Jesse and Kurt, but there's only

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Speaker 1: went through this, went to this last week. The combine

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Speaker 1: like a major event now for the NFL, and while

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Speaker 1: It's more about entertainment now for the TV and for

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Speaker 1: the sponsors and make sure they get out there. But

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Speaker 1: And so now this isn't a this isn't a place

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Speaker 1: around that. Yeah, and give him, give him, give him

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Speaker 1: nine million dollars maybe signing ponies. Yeah, let it ride.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just so you're saying, give him, well,

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Speaker 1: give him a relatively short term deal, yes, but don't

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Speaker 1: franchise him. Don't franchise him, do not do not do that,

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Speaker 1: Do not do that. Didn't his leg get broken too?

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Speaker 1: Plate a total leg him? Yes? Wow? Wow? Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: kind of weren't wonder about that too. I mean that

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Speaker 1: spot track who kind of tracks he's yeah, tracks and everything.

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Speaker 1: They're they're projecting his market values around nine million per yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: nine million per the franchise tag is I think just

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Speaker 1: over ten yeah, and you know, you look, it seemed

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Speaker 1: like his last few games really after Steel went out,

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Speaker 1: his production dropped a little, not not a lot, but

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Speaker 1: he didn't have any other I think he had one

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Speaker 1: ninety yard game number one hundred the last half of

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Speaker 1: the season, and that injury would really better be real

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Speaker 1: certain and he's ready to go, I think because some

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Speaker 1: will say when you look at, you know, other teams,

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Speaker 1: like like the Chiefs for example, and how they handled

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Speaker 1: their running back position, where just like, hey, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: get a bunch of guys that like collectively it was

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Speaker 1: one and a half two million dollars collectively of all

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Speaker 1: that they had on their football team. And you know,

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Speaker 1: some might say this has kind of been the Achilles

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Speaker 1: Heel for the Cowboys on paint, like the Cowboys have

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Speaker 1: kind of been historically. They've gambled and lost the gambling

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Speaker 1: when it comes to players, projection and contracts. It's like, hey,

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Speaker 1: you could have paid Tony Pollard two years ago and

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Speaker 1: got them for three years ten million dollars, but you

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Speaker 1: waited and you gambled, and then you go oh now

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Speaker 1: he has a thousand yards season. Yeah, now like yesterday's

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Speaker 1: price is not today's price anymore. Yeah it is. You

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Speaker 1: just gotta do it. Hold the line, yeah, fellas, I mean,

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Speaker 1: come on now, yeah, come on, I mean, you know,

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Speaker 1: if turning to Paula walking him right now, probably nobody

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Speaker 1: beat him giving him a big hug and telling them

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Speaker 1: thank you. Didn't me. But but if you can't separate

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Speaker 1: the business, you know, that's why a lot of dudes

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Speaker 1: walk around him. Broke. But I loved her, but she

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Speaker 1: wasn't no good Okay, So that walk three thousand? Yeah, man, Kurt,

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Speaker 1: let me tell you that. Yeah, that three thousand and

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Speaker 1: have you reconsented? You know? That thing was? How you?

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Speaker 1: How you thinking you would love? Number fourteen for the

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia Eagles was the man? Sanders was the man all

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Speaker 1: year long. Boston was to come out off the bench.

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Speaker 1: But who turned it out? Number fourteen? And the other

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Speaker 1: guy for Kansas City. I didn't know his name before.

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Speaker 1: I kind of don't know it now. But how did

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Speaker 1: he show up? And I'm not saying that Tony Pollard

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Speaker 1: is not explosive. I'm not saying that he did not

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Speaker 1: do a hell of a job. I am saying, he

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Speaker 1: got injured. He got and it is more serious than

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Speaker 1: everybody want to believe. And then I don't want to

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Speaker 1: be sitting here, you know, hey man, uh wow, we

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Speaker 1: tagged him it well yeah, yeah, come on, man, don't

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Speaker 1: do that. Does he still have the explosive this which

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Speaker 1: we just went through this with Gallup. Yeah, yeah, but

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Speaker 1: it's it's yea but yeah, but I get the ligaments, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but I get it. But we're talking about a broken bone.

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Speaker 1: Why he had damaged ligaments in there too? Okay, all right, okay, okay,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. All right, just it's better man, you

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Speaker 1: better make sure he can because it's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: Then we and then we get and then we and

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Speaker 1: then we get eight games to the season and nine

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Speaker 1: games to the season, and and we're saying, wow, I

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Speaker 1: just remember the last your Dalton and he was not injured.

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Speaker 1: And I'm like, fellas, this is gonna do that. But da,

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Speaker 1: we've got to look out for Dak and gotta be

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Speaker 1: Dack friendly. Yeah, and then when yeah, okay, offers has

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Speaker 1: to be Dack friendly. Yeah. Gotta keep continuity, you gotta

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Speaker 1: keep weapons around. It didn't show up. It didn't show

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Speaker 1: up all right, So I'm gonna I'm gonna drag this

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Speaker 1: over to the last segment of the show because I

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Speaker 1: want to get into this. The Cowboys make some major

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Speaker 1: shifts and changes across the coaching landscape. I want to

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Speaker 1: answer a question that Troy Aikman was asked about is

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Speaker 1: it harder to find an offensive coordinator than it is

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Speaker 1: a head coach? So I'm gonna talk about the coaching

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Speaker 1: changes for the Cowboys. I want I want to I

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Speaker 1: want to ask the question. I want to answer the

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Speaker 1: question that was asked to Troy Aikman, your boy, is

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Speaker 1: it harder to find an offensive coordinator or a head coach?

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Speaker 1: Here at the SWBC studio at the Star, the Joneses,

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Speaker 1: Jerry and Stephen are out at the combine. I think, well,

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Speaker 1: Steven's there. I haven't seen you or heard from Jerry yet,

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Speaker 1: but Stevens for sure. I'm sure Jerry will be there.

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Speaker 1: If he's not there already, the bus is already there,

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Speaker 1: so he's somewhere around there. Where did they go? Saint Elmo's?

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Speaker 1: Is it Saint Almos? Chris? The restaurant in Indianapolis? Yeah? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: what the what the what was that? The horse riders

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Speaker 1: that they like in the in the the compensive bottles

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Speaker 1: of wine. I guess never been spend some of that money.

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Speaker 1: I've never been spend some of that money, Chris. Spend

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Speaker 1: some of that money, baby, making it, making a priority.

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Speaker 1: Get out there, get to Saint Alimos, Chris. I know

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Speaker 1: you got all that money tucked away back there. Can't

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Speaker 1: take it with you, Chris, you know that right Well.

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Speaker 1: There is a quote from h Dallas Morning news beat

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Speaker 1: writer Calvin Hill. He spoke with vice president Stephen Jones.

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Speaker 1: Subscribe to the philosophy of running backs not being worth

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Speaker 1: the value at the top half of the draft, and

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Speaker 1: Stephen just said that they're not ten year players, but

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Speaker 1: has no problem taking one at twenty six at the

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Speaker 1: right guys there and you have a need, so he said,

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Speaker 1: your running backs no longer alike Immitt Smith, where you

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Speaker 1: do there? They're plugging play for ten straight years there's

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Speaker 1: more of a three or four year and hence where

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Speaker 1: we come to the point of a guy like Tony Pollard,

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Speaker 1: whom Yeah, here's a note that g or Man g

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Speaker 1: from Jersey centis and I'll have to trust his research.

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Speaker 1: I haven't done it, but he says that McCarthy and

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Speaker 1: Green Bay never had a running back past his rookie deal.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if that would change the philosophy around here.

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Speaker 1: We shall see. But one thing that did change around

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Speaker 1: here and may also change the philosophy. Yeah, how things

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Speaker 1: are going offensively is that Mike McCarthy and the Dallas

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Speaker 1: Cowboys made some significant changes on the offense of end,

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Speaker 1: mainly noted being the change of the offensive coordinator. Kellen

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Speaker 1: Moore is gone. He is in LA right now with

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Speaker 1: the Chargers just off the top of my head full

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Speaker 1: of running back coach Skip Pete is no longer here,

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Speaker 1: and it's best some significant changes. Kurt, you have the

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Speaker 1: list up, give me give me the new list. We

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Speaker 1: won't go through all defense, but give me the new

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Speaker 1: list of offensive guys that McCarthy has brought in to

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Speaker 1: help usher in this twenty twenty three offense for the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, The other big changes were Mike solaris

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Speaker 1: now your offensive line coach. Yeah, Scott Tolzine is a

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Speaker 1: new quarterbacks guy. He was on staff last Year's an assistant.

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Speaker 1: And I think nest Meyer followed Kellen Moore out there.

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Speaker 1: He's a new quarterbacks coach. A lot of the other

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Speaker 1: got Jeff Blasco is the new running backs coach. He

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Speaker 1: was like assistant tight ends coach or something last year.

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Speaker 1: Who else kind of stands up Chase has Let the

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Speaker 1: assistant tight ends now he was on the staff and

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Speaker 1: as an assistant. Um. By the way, Blasco was assistant

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Speaker 1: offensive line coach. Most offensive line okay, I could remember

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Speaker 1: for sure. Um, there's some. Most of the other guy,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fetter, I think his new Raymond Young, I haven't,

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Speaker 1: he's new. They're they're just kind of you know, quality

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Speaker 1: control types. The only guy to count his line off

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Speaker 1: of him. He is just ga among the big ones.

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Speaker 1: It's you know, Schottenheimer's new Solari the offensive line told

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Speaker 1: me the quarterbacks, those are the three that I think

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Speaker 1: really need. Okay, and we'll start there because that's a conversation.

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Speaker 1: Offensive line, offensive coordinator, and quarterbacks quarterbacks? Yeah, will you

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Speaker 1: say it's something about Troy and he a statement running

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Speaker 1: backs coach, that's a huge one, and running back coach.

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Speaker 1: If we'll have running backs here next, we don't know,

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Speaker 1: Zeke will be here, Tony Pollo, we we don't even

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Speaker 1: know have here. No, And we're gonna get to that.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna we're gonna get to Troy's question and Troy's

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Speaker 1: question For those who didn't hear me in the second segment,

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Speaker 1: Troy's question was is it harder to find a The

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Speaker 1: question was asked to Troy what is harder to find

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Speaker 1: and Troy said, it is harder to find an offensive

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Speaker 1: coordinator than it is a head coach in this league.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's an interesting take because twofold right, right,

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Speaker 1: You either have an offensive minded head coach or defensive

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Speaker 1: hire Joe Udge, who was a special team. You know

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Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You can just have one of those

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Speaker 1: type of deals and that see how that works out

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Speaker 1: for you. But you're either offensive minded or defensive minded,

636
00:36:45,239 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 1: and if you're defensive minded, then I think it behooves

637
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: you to kind of have an offensive guy in there

638
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,840
Speaker 1: as your offensive coordinator because it helps out on planning

639
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 1: and scheming and calling the players on game day. But

640
00:36:56,680 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: if you're an offensive guy, that's when it comes into

641
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,520
Speaker 1: the mix because more of these offensive guys are taking

642
00:37:04,600 --> 00:37:08,480
Speaker 1: on that role of pseudo play caller as well. But

643
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: what do you think, Nate, you you had an opportunity

644
00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: to play for the great North Turner. I think I

645
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 1: think this, I know this, I honor this with everything

646
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:23,360
Speaker 1: I got. If you got an offensive coordinator slash quarterback coach,

647
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 1: it no matter who the head coach is, as long

648
00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: as he let you do your job, because you're you're

649
00:37:28,880 --> 00:37:31,239
Speaker 1: you're gonna always look at the game from a hole

650
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:36,279
Speaker 1: and how it helps the offense the defense in all situations.

651
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,120
Speaker 1: That is NORV Turner supreme. He not only thought about

652
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: what it was his quarterback, how the protections are gonna

653
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: be for the offensive line, because it all comes back

654
00:37:46,760 --> 00:37:49,959
Speaker 1: to the quarterback, you know, and protecting him and making

655
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:54,240
Speaker 1: sure he's right. The offensive coordinator is harder to get

656
00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: that because he has to marry up with your with

657
00:37:58,040 --> 00:38:01,120
Speaker 1: your quarterback. Because if those twos are two guys are grinded,

658
00:38:01,239 --> 00:38:04,000
Speaker 1: it ain't gonna never work. It ain't gonna never work.

659
00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:06,880
Speaker 1: So that I agree with that one hundred percent. I've

660
00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:10,840
Speaker 1: seen that, Kurt. My question to you in that parallel

661
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: of it's harder to find the offen qualities as the

662
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:20,600
Speaker 1: head coach, where do you stand on gray haired wisdom

663
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: type offensive coordinators or the new young bucks, the whiz kids,

664
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Speaker 1: the your your you know, your new innovative type coaches? Yeah?

665
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Speaker 1: Are you? Are you kind of on the fence on

666
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:34,360
Speaker 1: either one of those, do you proceed to say, you

667
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: know what, give me the give me the give me

668
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:37,960
Speaker 1: the gray wolfs, give me the guy who give the

669
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 1: grizzel vet who's been around the block for a while,

670
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,879
Speaker 1: or hey, give me the new guy, the analytical guy,

671
00:38:43,920 --> 00:38:45,759
Speaker 1: the guy who's gonna just say things, you know, do

672
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 1: things you know going forward on the fourth down because

673
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,320
Speaker 1: the numbers say so, going forward here, because the numbers

674
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: say so, and and and more of that type of

675
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,480
Speaker 1: coach than the old dog who's saying, hey, listen, I've

676
00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: been in the trenches. Let's go this way. Yeah, you know,

677
00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 1: I guess I would laying towards maybe the newer wave,

678
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: but you know, experience means a lot, and so it's

679
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 1: knowing what what happens in those trenches. And so so

680
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,440
Speaker 1: I guess I I guess I don't carry either way

681
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,640
Speaker 1: if it's young or old. It's just long long as

682
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: he can do the job, you know. Um. And I

683
00:39:17,320 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: think that's kind of what Nate's point, where, you know,

684
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,360
Speaker 1: calling the overall game. I think some of the criticism

685
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: that maybe Kellen got was he was a good play caller,

686
00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: but he wasn't necessarily a good game manager, like I

687
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 1: think Emmett had said that, you know, he did it.

688
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 1: He didn't like the way he set this play up,

689
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,080
Speaker 1: or didn't set this play up to set this up later,

690
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 1: you know, that kind of thing. He wasn't working a

691
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:43,440
Speaker 1: whole game. He had just at a point, I'll get

692
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: right back to you. So when you look at the Cowboys,

693
00:39:46,200 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: would you consider because Kellen was supposed to be that

694
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 1: that that the boy wonder? Yeah, right, And I think

695
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:57,040
Speaker 1: Jason had more of that old school type of mentality

696
00:39:57,080 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: towards him. And you know, they both had intermitted successes, right,

697
00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,200
Speaker 1: They'd have fourteen thirteen one season and they've had you know,

698
00:40:10,239 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: they'll have some good runs and project good numbers. And

699
00:40:13,120 --> 00:40:15,200
Speaker 1: but but none of them either either one of their

700
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: styles never really worked. And the postseason, Yeah, I didn't

701
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: get them, you know, so I don't know Nate what

702
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 1: you got. You have to have both. You can't. You

703
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: can't deal with one or not the other. I mean

704
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:32,439
Speaker 1: both young and old. You actually question you say which

705
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,440
Speaker 1: one the wizard, the wise, old guy the young You

706
00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:38,560
Speaker 1: gotta have both. You gotta be smart enough. As the

707
00:40:38,600 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 1: head coach, Andy Reid shows you that uh siriana about it.

708
00:40:42,760 --> 00:40:45,680
Speaker 1: They showed you that you have this. This game is

709
00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,920
Speaker 1: speeded up, this game is more athletic, faster. You have

710
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: to have both. You have to be able to defend

711
00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,279
Speaker 1: the whole field. You have to be able to cover

712
00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 1: the old field. You have to be able to attack

713
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,200
Speaker 1: the whole field. You have to have both. They just

714
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 1: line it up in the eye. That don't work, just

715
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: spreading it off. People can lock on to you. You

716
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: have to have both. Yeah, but more importantly, you have

717
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,399
Speaker 1: to have a quarterback. And that's the bottom line. If

718
00:41:10,480 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: you got Andy Reid and say the guy that just

719
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 1: went to the commanders is Eric the enemy who just

720
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 1: threw in plays say, coach, check this out. I saw

721
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,520
Speaker 1: this right here. You don't know where that play came from.

722
00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,719
Speaker 1: But you got to have a coach that's willing to

723
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:29,200
Speaker 1: listen and say, you know what, if you can put

724
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:30,959
Speaker 1: it in there, and if we can get this offer,

725
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: this and this offer that the old veteran talking, we

726
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: can make this happen, or we can change the whole

727
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,200
Speaker 1: game plan. We won the same team in the first half,

728
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: but this is what you're gonna see in the second half.

729
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:44,680
Speaker 1: So you need both. Yeah, maybe maybe we'll have that

730
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:49,319
Speaker 1: with McCarthy because he talked about learning analytics that you're

731
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: he was off, Yeah, well, we don't believe that. We

732
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,480
Speaker 1: don't stop that. You do it like me that like

733
00:41:56,719 --> 00:41:59,480
Speaker 1: that I said, he watched all the games and come

734
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: from out of the game. But you cannot ride. You

735
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 1: cannot Today's NFL you and this is what we should

736
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:14,120
Speaker 1: this is what we should know watching the game, where

737
00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 1: you where your values at, what is happening have Do

738
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 1: you have the players that are smart enough to adjust

739
00:42:20,719 --> 00:42:24,560
Speaker 1: so we could you know, as I'm a coordinator, do

740
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 1: I have a player smart enough to make that you

741
00:42:26,719 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 1: saw it? My hats off to what you just said.

742
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 1: ANDREI just showed us. The coach for the Philadelphia Eagles

743
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,719
Speaker 1: showed us the whole year. You know, I can put

744
00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,480
Speaker 1: up game plans or I can change game plans due

745
00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 1: to the fact that I have the talent and the

746
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,040
Speaker 1: quarterbacks to do this. Okay, So you talk about having

747
00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback, Yeah, who is it more accumbant upon to

748
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,920
Speaker 1: squeeze the juice out of the talent of the quarterback? Right?

749
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:01,319
Speaker 1: Because again, let's take Patrick Mahomes. Let's put him over here. Yes,

750
00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 1: let's not. Let's not Cloud, mind not Cloud, take him

751
00:43:08,280 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: and put him on the shelf. Over him and the

752
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,920
Speaker 1: kid at Cincinnati, Right, let's put them over there. Right,

753
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,279
Speaker 1: But who was it who was more responsible of of

754
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:23,040
Speaker 1: of taking the quarterback and whatever that talent is. If

755
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 1: his talent is not Patrick Mahomes, that's different because that's

756
00:43:31,520 --> 00:43:34,279
Speaker 1: put him over there because people will think about it. Yeah,

757
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 1: you can't. Yes, who was the more responsible is it

758
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,840
Speaker 1: the head coach or the offensive coordinator of getting the

759
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,800
Speaker 1: most out of that player to successfully get the team

760
00:43:44,840 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 1: where it needs to be offensively? First of all, you

761
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:52,000
Speaker 1: would want your quarterback coach to be your offensive coordinator.

762
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 1: You would want that. It don't always happen. You would

763
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:00,560
Speaker 1: want your offensive coordinator to be because I can all

764
00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 1: day long set up plays. But if you're the quarterback

765
00:44:04,320 --> 00:44:08,480
Speaker 1: coach talking to him that you don't have time for

766
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 1: that day, do we have too many damnos? Thank you, Jesse,

767
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,520
Speaker 1: thank you. There's another that's a question put that put

768
00:44:15,560 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 1: a pin in that that we need hand shot many

769
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 1: coaches on this footbank offensive coaches, and that's, you know,

770
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 1: put a pin in that. We're gonna put a pin

771
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: in that. We're gonna put a pin in that for

772
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 1: next time. But but again it's just yes, yes, and yes,

773
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,440
Speaker 1: so we have two minute. No, I'm talking about getting

774
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:39,360
Speaker 1: the most out of the quarterback. Who was more responsible

775
00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,440
Speaker 1: to get the most juice, Like we're looking at uh

776
00:44:43,520 --> 00:44:46,480
Speaker 1: Gino Smith. Geno Smith came into this league, became a

777
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,600
Speaker 1: journeyman and then got with Pete Carroll and like I

778
00:44:48,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: feel like Pete Carroll, Pete can talk, squeezed. He squeezed

779
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:56,719
Speaker 1: every bit of whatever Gino Smith had talent wise, He

780
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,239
Speaker 1: got every bit of that that Gino Smith juice out

781
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:05,399
Speaker 1: of him to to have some to best thirty touchdown

782
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 1: the best he's had. Yeah, and Norv Turner walked in

783
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: and told us. He say, Fellas, my job is to

784
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: find out the strength and weaknesses of his team, and

785
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 1: he mostly was talking to Troy and to get the

786
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:24,799
Speaker 1: best out of you. The quarterbacks coach too. I don't know, Yeah,

787
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:27,360
Speaker 1: I think he was. I think it was. I remember

788
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,319
Speaker 1: nobody else, because when Troy had a problem, it was

789
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 1: he went to North. So when when when you have

790
00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,919
Speaker 1: all of these coaches, uh, it don't work. But Norv

791
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,920
Speaker 1: told him, my job is to get the best out

792
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: of y'all, to see what y'all y'all strengths and your weaknesses,

793
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,400
Speaker 1: and play more to your strength even though you know

794
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,239
Speaker 1: you may be a nine route guy every night, I

795
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,759
Speaker 1: didn't actually to run a skinny post. And we ask

796
00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:54,440
Speaker 1: you to work on your weaknesses. But that and he

797
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:56,839
Speaker 1: looked at Troy. He was kind of looking at Troy

798
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 1: when he was saying this. And and if you are

799
00:46:00,360 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: not gearing that thing like that right there, and then

800
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 1: your quarterback has to be over receptive, especially when you're

801
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: coming out of the gate with a new guy, you

802
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,800
Speaker 1: have to be over receptive of trying to see and

803
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:17,600
Speaker 1: understand what he wants because his only job, his only lifeline,

804
00:46:17,719 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 1: is to make you better. And when you and y'all

805
00:46:22,080 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 1: hear me say this all the time. And maybe our

806
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:31,800
Speaker 1: quarterback ain't big on that, but every time a series

807
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: you see a quarterback walk to the sideline, all those

808
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,920
Speaker 1: guys that were put over here in this different category,

809
00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: when they walk to the sideline, nine time out of ten,

810
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: that offensive coordinator is walking over there with a pad saying, hey,

811
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,800
Speaker 1: what did you see? Why did this happened? Whether it

812
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:53,279
Speaker 1: was great success, no success there, that is what we

813
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 1: have to find for that. We have to find a

814
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,480
Speaker 1: guy that says no, no, no, because it ain't about

815
00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: a friendship. My job is make you great and to

816
00:47:01,480 --> 00:47:03,680
Speaker 1: help you be great. And if that is the case,

817
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:06,279
Speaker 1: you would build of friendship. Like I was saying. I

818
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 1: used my financial guy that I was talking to yesterday.

819
00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 1: He dropped the ball and the first thing we got

820
00:47:11,840 --> 00:47:13,560
Speaker 1: through me and him, I said, Now we threw it

821
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,279
Speaker 1: all the pancakes and nice stuff and who can cook

822
00:47:16,320 --> 00:47:18,080
Speaker 1: and who can't cook? We threw it all of that

823
00:47:18,200 --> 00:47:20,400
Speaker 1: because next time I walk in there and this thing

824
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: ain't right, only said, hey, you know what, I need

825
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 1: another guy. That's how it works, bro, That's how how

826
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 1: you think Jesse went from a security guard at a

827
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 1: at a at an at and t to now millionaire.

828
00:47:32,840 --> 00:47:37,120
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Jesse ain't trying to play and that

829
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 1: is our show. Yeah, got something perspective real quick, and

830
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,800
Speaker 1: do anything about my money? If not, If so, and

831
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 1: I'm into this show, go ahead on You're more than

832
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,439
Speaker 1: welcome to so. So they brought up the ninety two

833
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 1: Cowboys coaching staff. There was eleven coaches on that staff. Yeah,

834
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:01,359
Speaker 1: it was eleven total. It was like, that's that's that's

835
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: all offense. Defense. There was one head yeah, there was

836
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,359
Speaker 1: There was one head chief and there was two sub

837
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:10,799
Speaker 1: chiefs and the rest of them was warriors. They said,

838
00:48:10,840 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: there's eleven coaches on the staff period, Like I could

839
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,040
Speaker 1: name all eleven real quick for you. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay,

840
00:48:18,160 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: Jimmy head coach North Turner, Joe Brosky, uh acts out

841
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,879
Speaker 1: yeah here at Alexander Robert Ford was the tightest coach

842
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 1: Tony Wise. Yes, that was all offense, right, okay, defense

843
00:48:32,640 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: was Wanstead, Butch Davis and Dave Campo, right, three coaches

844
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,000
Speaker 1: and they had eleven total when the Cowboys got eleven

845
00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:46,520
Speaker 1: offensive boy and then and then Steve Hoffman was the

846
00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:51,080
Speaker 1: coach that kicking extraordinary coach that was that. That's a

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Speaker 1: that's a great perspective back in. I don't know if

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Speaker 1: it's a great job, Chris. The official staff. Now I

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Speaker 1: looked at last year, Staf. We had twenty six on

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Speaker 1: the staff last year running around and with their own agendas, bros.

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Speaker 1: And that's not on the strength I took out strength

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Speaker 1: in this name. That's running around with their own agenda.

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Speaker 1: That's a great perspective, A lot, a lot. I just

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Speaker 1: want to say once again, congratulations man, Congratulations champions man.

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Speaker 1: Wow Wow, you're gonna get that ring. You beat mister

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Speaker 1: Jones to his man. You're gonna give him a game

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Speaker 1: plan on how to do it. I can yes, yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: Do we get rings? Little little platinum play play rings?

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Speaker 1: Can we get play plays? No, Jerry give out play

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Speaker 1: play rings. If you win in Super Bowl for a

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Speaker 1: long time now, you can give us a play play ring.

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Speaker 1: Giving you a play play ring, you hold three super

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Speaker 1: Bowl rings. I'm not giving you a pay not even

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Speaker 1: just gonna get a pendant, you know what I was

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Speaker 1: gonna get like a little necklace that would be sweet. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: like like like the ladies get like just another yeah

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Speaker 1: all right, Jerry gave out them too. We had to

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Speaker 1: pay for them, though. I got my mom and dad one.

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Speaker 1: All right, man, that that is our show. Can get

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Speaker 1: play man, all right, Kurt's good to see your brother.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back from boy. You look relieve, you look like

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Speaker 1: the journey to you. All right, that's Kurt, that's Snake

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